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0:19Speaker 1years, Nordstrom has been part of your story. The stylist who found the perfect outfit for your big interview, the 1st pair of walking shoes for your 1 year old, the tomato soup you shared with your sister at the cafe. These are the moments that make Nordstrom
0:38Speaker 1years with new moments still ahead. Discover it all in Nordstrom stores and at nordstrom.com.
1:10Speaker 2Dude, I was thinking last night. It was crazy. We I don't know what I was doing that made me trigger this, but it's like, holy shit, the summer is over almost.
1:22Speaker 3Well, the summer, I mean, luckily here in California, right? Our summer goes till November,
1:31Speaker 3Is really hot. Yeah. If you, if you live in Seattle where I'm from summer starts, if you're lucky after July 4
1:42Speaker 3So that's a short summer. The only thing you have to look good to look forward to is football season starting.
1:48Speaker 3yeah, these poor kids, I mean, like 2 weeks into the summer, I go into a store and there's like back to school sale.
1:56Speaker 3I hate those people, marketing people. I'm like, dude, let these let everybody just enjoy summer, please.
2:02Speaker 3Is that bugging us? I mean, somebody was saying I went to school, there was, you know, pumpkins and
2:23Speaker 2So, and it was still warm outside. I know. I saw, I saw those pictures you sent. Like I was like, dude, I want a pool. I got stoked with a huge backyard, but no pool. I needed a pool.
2:49Speaker 2baking soda, which is supposed to draw out toxins. If I don't do a bath, I will do just my feet.
3:15Speaker 2waking up just with vigor and just, and it's, it's been the best I have felt in quite some time.
3:22Speaker 21, I've been sleeping better, so that definitely probably plays a big role in it. You know, I've made some shifts and we'll probably talk about that in some of the questions,
3:29Speaker 2but I have been doing that. So that's another thing I didn't think of. I've been soaking my feet or soaking in a bath almost every night because I'm so OCD
3:44Speaker 2It, like, a hot bath makes you tired. I used to wake up when I couldn't sleep at, 2 and take hot bath because I get tired.
3:51Speaker 2But yeah, man, that's what I'm gonna do with apple cider vinegar. My wife buys these big ass things with apple cider vinegar now. I didn't ask her. That's just why my wife rules. But
4:00Speaker 2you attribute most of this energy to your SS-thirty 1. I mean, so you know us and everything we do, we kind of think through like, why do I feel great? There's nothing that really has changed except for my protocol. I, we have greatly enhanced our SS-thirty 1, both of us. And
4:17Speaker 2I have no doubt in my mind that plays a big role in it. I can just kind of tell and they feel great.
4:26Speaker 2teetering back and forth on throwing MOTS-1s): I haven't ran MOTS-1s): in quite some time.
4:36Speaker 2don't know if that was just my head. I definitely was taking too many compounds at the time. Well, you guys need to realize when, when I started our company, we are both in recovery. So like when we have access to things, we're like, yes. Yeah.
4:48Speaker 2Like, are you putting up bodies? We're studying and like reading about all this stuff and it's like, we want to try it because like, that's just who we are. And then like, we were like, if I do 18 of these-
4:58Speaker 2know what mean? More is better. Then all of sudden you get overwhelmed and like, feel weird.
5:04Speaker 2So I've toned it down and now I just do few and it's been better. You know, it's working and stuff, but live and learn, man. That's what we talked about. The
5:13Speaker 2You know, like even like stuff back in our days when, you know, and we, Will and I have talked openly about this because why would we lie? We're grownups. Allowed to do what we want. You know, we've ran numerous singles of gear and that's how we learned it. Like,
5:27Speaker 2Everybody knows that by now, but where we really come together and we are the same is we study things that we're intrigued at. That's where the connection has been built of,
5:36Speaker 2you know, we don't just blindly take shit. Like study it. We want to know why. Like, so that part is where I think the connection like stands
5:45Speaker 2holds strong, like we study stuff. Like, we've tried so many different compounds and it's crazy because
6:12Speaker 2I feel like this, I'm gonna go without feel. You know what mean? Yep. Because that's as priceless.
6:18Speaker 2And you never know unless you try. Right. Everybody's different, dude. It's crazy, because now we talk to so many people that try so many different compounds.
6:29Speaker 2And I've never heard of what they said, but like, everybody's different. My wife gets reactions to numerous peptides and she's my bride, you know? And like,
6:39Speaker 2It's your body. Yep. Blame God. Blame God. God does not want you to take that peptide. It is what it is. But you can take a lot of others. And the cool thing is there's like some, there's a buckets of different peptides that do virtually
6:57Speaker 2there's a lot of others that do the same thing, kind of. You know what I mean? Like, what a cool thing.
7:05Speaker 2went with my family to Disneyland, and I hate Disneyland. I'm not a big crowd type guy.
7:12Speaker 2Just too much loud noises. I'm like rain man, dude. Like, v e r n. Like, you know, like, that's why when my kids screams, dude, like, I'm like, where do I run? Stop. You know? And,
7:21Speaker 2but dude, it was cool. Justin was out and, he brought his family. His kids had never been. Wow. So that I got to experience that with them.
7:32Speaker 3uh- Did you get the wristbands and go to the front of the lines? My wife does all that stuff. Yeah.
7:36Speaker 3There's no chance in hell I'm going to Disneyland to ride rides. Well, there's no chance in hell I'm gonna go to Disneyland without riding rides. And
7:43Speaker 2there's no chance now I'm going without the wristband that gets me to the front of the line. I'm not waiting 3 hours. My wife does that. And the 1 thing I love about my wife would like, I'll give you a funny story about my bride. I know you're listening to this too, babe, and this is a funny story. So my son used to always love, Blippi,
8:01Speaker 2wanted to get tickets. He was coming live, not the real Blippi, but they were doing some like dancing show and all this stuff. And Jack's loved him. And my wife
8:09Speaker 2got some tickets and I wasn't gonna go because I was doing something, probably something for work. But then I caught myself and like, I'm like, why would I miss this with my son? Like, he loves it. So then I said, no, I'm going to go. And so of course my wife has to get another ticket. So we walk into this big ass stadium and I'm following my wife and
8:32Speaker 2I'm like, we are in the front freaking row, honey. Did you, how much did you spend on these tickets, babe? And she starts laughing. I'm like, you know, my wife, I'm like,
8:48Speaker 3came home or here's a picture of my wife building this thing. It's like an outdoor movie theater. It's about the 45 foot screen. Yeah. It's part of her charm, bro. She will
8:59Speaker 2for my sons, man. 1 of the things I love is she's 1 the best moms I know, but man, she likes to spend. Yeah.
9:07Speaker 3God bless her heart. Shout out to Huntington Beach. So we went to Rivers 1st football practice, flag football, and there was a lot of kids. We just moved him to Huntington here. He's been in San Juan or Dan Point forever,
9:21Speaker 3has been playing at Friday night lights football and he's good at his flag football. He's 10. But
9:28Speaker 3a Huntington Beach flag football team and they're good athletes, but that team was full.
9:34Speaker 3They had to like make a 2nd team. Right? And Rivers on the 2nd team and there was like 4 kids at practice yesterday.
9:44Speaker 210 1 years old and wants to play football, we need players on the Sure. Would've never thought that would be hard to feel like my wife has signed up jacks for soccer, AYSO, AYSO, and she was on a call
9:55Speaker 2And, I called her for something and she answers it and she's like, you need to be a coach. I'm like, what? Like, what? I don't even know what she meant. Like, need coaches. They can't find enough coaches. I need you to be coaching. I'm like, babe, I would love to. I am so freaking busy. Like, the hell am gonna find out No way. 1 day. But like Yeah. But, but yeah. Well, okay. Yeah. But I was not 1 that they could have been coach. Some point in time. I know. That's weird. My dad did that when I was young dude. So I'll definitely do it for Jacks.
10:21Speaker 2It's been a long time since I played soccer. What are the rules? I don't even remember that. I don't know. That age,
10:26Speaker 3are the rules. It doesn't really matter. And even if you kick in the other goal, like you scored.
10:34Speaker 2I mean, you've seen it over and over with like brothers and sisters. You got, they're so always just totally different. Like
10:46Speaker 2He's agile. He's flipping and jumping and spinning on things. Mason tries to copy him for sure. And he'll roll and stuff. He's got his little belly. He's just such a little chunky baby. And he tries it. He's like, you can see athleticism and then like Mason, not as much, you know what I mean? And like, God, but I'll be all Mason. You want a bite of this? He goes, yeah.
11:15Speaker 3Now football season, the good thing. Yeah. So anyway, that'd be cool. We would like to, and then there's some young kids on the team, but
11:21Speaker 2River looked really good. Yeah. He's good. I was watching him when we went to the beach. You can see well, just like Jack's, he he has athleticism.
11:29Speaker 2You can tell balance. Yeah. Yes. Body type. He looks like a fighter. He looks like a fighter. He does. Yep. But the also the coach looks cool. The coach is this big muscle dude who,
11:39Speaker 3who is a ex, I don't know, Marie. I don't want just say Marine because, but maybe he's still in the military,
11:46Speaker 3but watching him run around and play with the kids like he's athletic. You could tell. I was like, damn, dude's got a quick feet. He gets thrown, like, not like a girl.
11:57Speaker 3of muscles. So that's cool. I'm excited that the coach will be good. Hopefully, we just have enough kids. I'm not worried about enough kids to fill the team, worried about enough kids to be not be embarrassed.
12:09Speaker 3You gotta feel good too, bro. You gotta feel yeah. I think they'll probably make that. I mean, not at 4. He's 10.
12:30Speaker 3And it's flagged, dude. And like kids are parents are putting their kids in tackle football now. And honestly, from somebody who's played division 1 football,
12:44Speaker 3not like baseball. Baseball is like a basketball too. Like you better, well, you better be built for it in basketball, but you better practice your ass off. Right? Baseball is a
12:54Speaker 3Throwing the ball right. Throwing the ball right, hitting. You just gotta see so many pitches and
12:59Speaker 3football's not. And I think that starting tackle, all you're doing is just adding all these small little nagging injuries.
13:06Speaker 3I'm not worried about concussions for little kids because they just don't run fast enough to hurt each other. Right? But I do worry about, you know, it just sucks if, if you've played for 5 years and you've already ripped your fingernails off your hands and, you know, broken fingers. It
13:20Speaker 2is. But why add an extra 5 years of it? Well, I didn't, I played soccer until 9th grade and I didn't play football, but you know, you're always playing football with your boys and stuff like before that. But like I jumped right into 9th grade, man just played it. You know? Yeah. You either got it or you got it. So that's the athleticism that we talked about to where that's what Jack's does. He's just always flipping, doing something athletic. I remember I would sit in front of my TV and throw the ball and catch it. And like, you know, you throw it off and like, catch You learn how to catch That
13:53Speaker 3It's the same with exercise. So folks, people ask, people say, hey, I wanna get in shape. Right?
13:58Speaker 3And they go, okay, how many times a week do I need to work out? And like, it's think about this. If I say, you need to work out for an hour, 5 days a week, but then people go, okay, that's what I need to do to get in shape, but it's not about that. So that means out of a week that's 24 hours times 7 days, you're working out for 5 hours. Right. That's not going to cut it. What you need to do is your whole life needs to change. You need to enjoy
14:22Speaker 3going for hikes on the weekend. Right? You need to go jog at the park or go play, play football with your friends. You need to go swimming on the weekends. This needs to be just like constant motion. Yeah. Needs to be
14:49Speaker 2that not because it's our company. I think it's unique because it is unique. And what I mean by that is you have 4 You don't get a coach. You get 4 coaches, Will and myself, obviously.
14:58Speaker 2Dave Thomas, who we have hired, who is a freaking beast in the gym, and I love working out with him and he, he works out like a monster.
15:09Speaker 2and we all bring a different flare and we're all our different ages. 1 of the things that I've been thinking a lot about just off of my own experience of life, I'm 49 years old and man, I'm telling you, I've changed a lot in the last year, quite a bit from just things where I just, it's at 49, it's not about going in like lifting really heavy like I used to. I just can't,
15:30Speaker 2cause I want to continue. So it's lifting different. So you were going to be able to pass that knowledge on to men that are 50 and that are 40, because that's even different. And that are 30. That's totally different.
16:01Speaker 2if you don't know that stuff, that's where a coach is going to really shine because we've done it our whole lives. And there's a lot of people that have never even gone to a gym. You know what I mean? And
16:11Speaker 2we say it all the time. And I even coaches have coaches. That's right. Michael Jordan,
16:19Speaker 2And a lot of time it's just to push people. But 1 of the, here's a couple of things that I like about our program,
16:33Speaker 2we'll help you with that. I love carnivore. So that's not for everybody, but if for the right people, we will help you that. Obviously detailed workout program.
16:42Speaker 2a lot of stuff's going to be in the gym because most people are going to lift weights. Now we are in the process as we speak of uploading about 35 of my hit training videos that are literally great. I'm not just saying that they are great. I started watching some of them again. I'm like, damn, I was kicking ass back then. They're about 0.5 old, but they're badass. So we'll have those for the people that like maybe do some weight training and hit training. If you do hit training, you burn fat for 48 hours. No joke. So that will be added into it. Obviously 1 on 1 check ins,
17:27Speaker 2person that's in the program. And we're going to look at what they're doing, how they're doing. And we're going to give 4 perspectives on how we get them to their goal. I don't know any other company or any other coaching program that does that. Goal is to get you
17:42Speaker 2So yeah, so obviously month, weekly zoom calls where we're going to talk about a lot about a lot, not just
17:53Speaker 2cultivation of mindset, the stuff I love. So I'm going to be running those. And once a month, we're going to do a workout with the people that are either local
18:10Speaker 2so excited about this program. Like if you see some of the stuff we post about warrior makers and just the crew we have,
18:17Speaker 2trust me, you want to be involved with people that are what we do. There's we have the raddest people that work here.
18:24Speaker 3Pretty cool. I'm excited about it. Yep. And yes, he's right. We do it too. All, it's like a clinical team approach where
18:33Speaker 3we took this kind of from treat treatment. Right? You have all these people who are in treatment. They have different counselors that do different things. And then once a week, they all have a meeting about and go over every single client and
18:45Speaker 3say, how is he doing with this? How's he doing with that? What can we support him better at? And so we do the same thing with all of the clients that are in this program. Excited about that. Yeah. Think it's, yeah, absolutely. 0 So we got big things. And if you, if you are curious about the program
18:59Speaker 2and you're ready to get in shape again, it doesn't even need you might need to lose weight. You might just want to get ripped.
19:09Speaker 2help, we're obviously going to give you supplementation help because that's what we do. So
19:18Speaker 2You do want to let us know, we do have a website. You can just call, you can just jump on there, warriormakerscoaching.com,
19:26Speaker 2You will get notified right away that you're in the program and where you go from there. And you get a full swag bag on the Centurion program. Get a t shirt on the legionary program, but go to that website. It's very simple and it outlines everything that we just talked about. Yeah. Let's like, we're looking for some cool people that are ready to, join the warrior maker team and let's do big shit together.
19:50Speaker 2Secondly, school, a lot of people are on school, but 1 of the things that we are dropping, if you have not been on school, get on school, we give so much free freaking content. I mean, protocols up the butt, up the dinging. If they say, just
20:05Speaker 2that alone is awesome. Like, you know, if you're looking on how to mix, what to do, blah, blah, blah, that's just the basics.
20:11Speaker 2Man, Will has gone deep dives into a lot of rad content that you could be 1 busy for days just reading in-4s. More that isn't posted that we are
20:35Speaker 2reading through the questions today and I noticed that most of them per ladies today. So we have a lot of ladies out there that, listen to the show,
20:50Speaker 2back there, the producer we're going to do, they're putting out some cool stuff. So that's going to be dropping on school as well. Are we doing that on VIP or normal?
21:13Speaker 2we're always trying to upgrade and stuff and we have our hands in a lot of cookie jars, so sometimes just be patient, but we will improve everything.
21:29Speaker 2And I don't stay stagnant. We are in constant growth in our lives and what we do. Hopefully you've seen that just from the progression of this podcast,
21:44Speaker 2I've had quite a bit of people at this point say, we love the Q and A and like, I like the Q and A too. We can kind of leave that alone. We will bring Nora in sometimes and maybe some of the staff here because now they know peptides. They've been with us for a long time, most of them, and that's partly gay. You gotta learn, you gotta learn peptides. So we'll bring some of the staff on and yet we had a mic on last week.
22:17Speaker 2or do you like us to go back to, talking about compounds? We're gonna talk about 2 or 3 compounds like we used to do. We haven't done that a lot lately because we've had a lot of guests. The show's growing and, you know, we're able to get some good guests on. We're always going to balance it, but what do you guys want? I'm really curious of that answer. And the answer can be, we want mix of both.
22:41Speaker 2very important to us. The feedback it really is. You help us better the show. You are the listener and you listen for a reason. What do you want?
22:56Speaker 3Hey guys, love your podcasts. I've been on 4 mg weekly. Let's, we're going to start saying
23:08Speaker 3last thing is we are starting a website just called, it'll be called peptideoftheweek.com
23:14Speaker 3where we will air all these episodes because weird stuff is happening out there with social media and it can't be reliable. So we just want to create another space 3 where you can always
23:26Speaker 21 more thing. Because now that made me think, okay. So a lot of you know, I posted something about the other day about, Josh Holyfield.
23:32Speaker 2What you guys need to know, we all pretty much for the most part, this is a very, this industry is a very, small industry and everybody sticks together. We are really like, you know, Trevor, Jay, Josh, Holyfield. We were really close with these people. You know, it's been a blessing, but like on
23:50Speaker 2Like it doesn't matter if you have a problem with Doctor. Trevor, if you have a problem with Josh, if you have a problem with us, listen, that's rad. You don't, not everybody's gonna like us, man. I've dealt with that my whole life, but
24:17Speaker 3just how we roll. Thank you for listening to that good stuff. Okay. What did your mother tell you growing up? If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all. Sometimes we agree, but sometimes we don't say it.
24:47Speaker 3leaning out my midsection for a wedding in January. Previously tried Tesa Ipah for 8 weeks, but had significant water retention and pain.
25:04Speaker 3Tessa Ipah, 1 mg, 5 times a week in Kagrelin, inotide, 0.5 of a milligram weekly when hunger returned.
25:11Speaker 3I'm a busy mom, a full time assistant principal, exercise daily, and play sports. I also struggle with low energy and poor sleep quality despite getting 6 to 7 hours. What would you be looking at researching before 1 considering another stack, particularly for body composition and energy recovery
25:39Speaker 2So I'm gonna go towards the sleeping thing because I have struggled with it, and I struggled with it. Push your limits, train with precision, see the results.
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26:19Speaker 1years, Nordstrom has been part of your story. The stylist who found the perfect outfit for your big interview, the 1st pair of walking shoes for your 1 year old, the tomato soup you shared with your sister at the cafe. These are the moments that make Nordstrom,
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26:45Speaker 2For years and man, that really is going to affect your whole life. You don't say your age. I wish you did.
26:54Speaker 2gotta get that under control. But before I even get there, let's, let's just, the 1st thing that jumps out at me is hormones.
27:01Speaker 2I would imagine 1st off when's the 1st, when's the last time you got your blood work done? I would love to know your age because that would definitely help answer some of that stuff,
27:09Speaker 2but it sounds to me like your hormones might be off. And that happens to every 1 of us. It just is what it is. Could just be progesterone,
27:21Speaker 2working with the right person can get those in line. Just those are going to make you sing. And that'll probably fix your sleep just in itself.
27:29Speaker 2It could be low testosterone and that's not why that's why you're not sleeping. 1st off, get your blood work done, my dear,
27:36Speaker 2and start there. And that will answer, I think, lot of your problems. You know, again, we've said it before, but we're
27:48Speaker 2but sometimes you got to know what you would even need to take and blood work's going to answer that because the hormones, you need that blood work. So get that done and you could even write back in and we can maybe help you with some of that stuff or get somebody that, you know, 1 of these gals, these doctors we've been working with might even help better than us.
28:14Speaker 2And again, shout out to the gentleman that, sent this to me. I think he's from Australia, if I remember correctly.
28:32Speaker 2and that works well for me. And I have slept just so amazingly since I started that protocol.
28:44Speaker 2At the end of like, before I get ready for work, I go outside and I take my shoes off and I stare at the sun for literally about 3 minutes. And then I say another prayer
28:53Speaker 2and then I go jump my butt in a cold shower and it's worked well, but, there is something magical about your feet on the grass, your feet on the ground, the connection to
29:12Speaker 2So that's the woo side of me. And, I love it. I do that stuff and it works well for me,
29:19Speaker 2but, I'm going to leave it there and see what will has to say, because I think you need to fix your hormones. I think your hormones are off. That's why you're probably really tired and that's an that will probably fix your sleeping problem too. In the meantime, start taking this protocol. Promise you you'll sleep well. Yeah. I think the 1st thing that sticks out to me is like,
29:43Speaker 3okay, whenever you get some extra hunger. Right? So you're probably not eating enough food.
29:48Speaker 3That's what I mean by fuel. You're not eating enough food, and that makes you a person tired and sluggish and not, you know, and fatigued,
29:58Speaker 3So I would maybe abandon this. I mean, don't abandon completely, but like put the brakes on the losing the 5 kg and let's
30:23Speaker 3body our metabolism will slow down, and I've said this almost every episode probably. Metabolism will slow down to the amount of calories that we put in our bodies.
30:41Speaker 3try just so eat small frequent meals of protein. Make sure you're getting enough protein.
30:52Speaker 3Therefore, metabolism goes up and you start losing weight better and you will get some you know, protein isn't our primary fuel source, but
31:04Speaker 3Okay? But the problem is that when you eat a carbohydrate, if you don't burn that, if you don't use that carb for energy,
31:11Speaker 3it then goes great. Let's store and it stores on you, converts into fat and stores for energy later.
31:22Speaker 3are fine, right? Like eat some carbs before you workout. Great. You'll have a good workout because you'll use those, you'll use those during
31:29Speaker 3the workout. Eat carbs in the morning. You're gonna be walking around and doing all your thing, you know, using your brain all day long. That burns calories, by the way. Yeah. Just stay away from the carbs at night, but try to get yourself on a on a on a small and
31:49Speaker 3Other than that, the only other, would try something like B12, like look at your vitamins. So again, the fuel source has gone. Therefore, you're probably not getting the right vitamins and nutrients. Right? And it's like an injectable
32:04Speaker 3Doctor Scott talks about it all the time. That might just give you a lot of energy, but as far as peptides go,
32:14Speaker 3SS-thirty 1 is going to make make your is gonna harness all the energy in your mitochondria, and basically that all converts into ATP, and that's our cellular energy. That's the stuff that makes us yeah. Our muscles really move and faster and stronger, and you have a bit more stamina throughout the day. So I would take a look at that, and I wouldn't do less than 5 Migs a day of SS-thirty 1. NAD as well. NAD,
32:40Speaker 3Just be careful of not stack just don't just like throw a whole bunch of stuff on your plate at once. Right? You wanna know what makes the difference.
32:49Speaker 2talked about it, but like it's important to touch on this again because again, I was just Disneyland and they do not have a lot of healthy food at Disneyland. And we sat and ate breakfast with our friends and it was an all you can eat place. As you can imagine, most people are going to gorge themselves at those places and it's not the best food. And I had a conversation with a good friend of mine, Justin, who's also a coach, you know, and he knows a lot about nutrition and we were talking through this.
33:18Speaker 2in a place like that, it's going to be a lot of shit food, And there's gonna be a lot of temptation. So your carbs
33:27Speaker 2Like, you know what I mean? Instead of like bad carbs, just you be smart. And when I say think through stuff, that's thinking through stuff,
33:36Speaker 2eat foods that are, you can eat a lot of that are going to be less calories because you probably want to eat more. So that's just using your brain and
33:52Speaker 2And for you ladies, I really think that you need to start your day with about 40 grams of protein. And I am trying to talk my bride into that
34:01Speaker 2because I really think that is important for you ladies, not as much men that can do more 3 fasting and
34:06Speaker 2affects women differently. Hope that helps. Eat before you go to Disneyland. So you don't, you're not starving and then eat all of their bad food. Seriously.
34:15Speaker 2What we did was, you know, we were with all people that were fairly healthy, right? And like, we didn't want to eat that food.
34:21Speaker 2We waited and ate at a steak house and we all sat down at a nice dinner. Like it was about 05:00 and we all ate a good meal. Know what mean? Obviously,
34:35Speaker 2this other side. California adventure has some nice restaurants. So we could have ate when we were in Disneyland side, but we waited, right, thinking through it because they just had crap food there. And none of us were going to eat that stuff. And I had a nice steak
34:50Speaker 3damn eggs or avocado for me, which blew me away. So I just ate the steak. So, drink a lot of water too. The only thing I always noticed is is throughout the day, right, if I'm getting tired and I'm like, damn, let's I'm tired. I must need more coffee. Right? And I drink my 3rd cup of coffee and I go, wow, that did nothing to me. I will if I go just chug a bunch of water,
35:11Speaker 3that will wake me up better than anything. Obviously, more coffee is dehydrating and it just kind of stops working. Like, keep yourself really hydrated. Those of you who've read those like Jack Reacher books, I always remember like they, he always,
35:29Speaker 3say that Jack Reacher, like he's always drinking a whole bunch of water. He thinks that that's the lifeblood of his energy and everything.
35:37Speaker 2And JD likes saltwater and that's great too. That's even, that's a little bit better. It absorbs. That's what, especially the water, if it's not like a Kagan or whatnot, which we have a gal coming in on Friday. I can't wait to ask her questions,
35:48Speaker 2but you're, you're peeing a lot. Your water's going through you. The salt's going to help you absorb it better. So, you know, all right. So see, Hey guys, love your podcast. I tell all my peptide curious homies to tune in 35
36:23Speaker 2diet and check yada yada. I've been on Reddit for almost 3 months, worked up to 2 megs
36:54Speaker 2And that all went well away within 2 to 3 days. What the F ever heard of this reaction? Any insight would be great anecdotal or scientific. Thank you all.
37:09Speaker 3tell me that they had these symptoms after doing NAD. And I'm not saying you didn't, you obviously did. So I
37:18Speaker 3think that you're experiencing some type of reaction, like allergic reaction to this and specifically to NAD,
37:24Speaker 3Not like a what we talk about, like a histamine reaction where it's just a foreign substance and so your body creates histamines. Yes, this is also like a histamine it is a histamine reaction, but I think you're actually probably allergic to the NAD. I would not re try
38:12Speaker 3so you might be allergic to something. It was in that. There could have been a contaminant. Who knows? But it could you could just be allergic to the actual entity itself, and therefore, a new batch, a new lot will do nothing, and you'll experience the same reaction. The edema is which is like the swelling in your legs. It is. The 3 pounds is obviously water.
38:34Speaker 3and nobody burns it that fast either when they stop. So there was some reaction and you just may not be a good candidate for NAD.
38:44Speaker 3That's all dollar is, but it's up to you if you really, really, really want to try NAD again. I would do what I said previously.
38:53Speaker 2So what we talked about before, I think already is you can replace it with SS-thirty 1, which you did. I think now
39:00Speaker 2let's just be blunt. The amount of dose, the amount that you're going to run of SS-31is
39:19Speaker 2Think it does. NAD is great. I love NAD. He just answered that. Try what he said. If you can try another batch or another
39:27Speaker 2company or maybe whatever, if it's a good company, they'll replace it. And we'll ask questions.
39:45Speaker 2You're right in that range where you really need to start looking at your hormones. So we want to get the blood work done.
40:01Speaker 2would go with the doctor that knows what they're doing. Then the cool thing is there are a lot more coming out. There's a lot of doctors that are starting to see the light step away from the Western medicine and really starting to get back to, I think why they became a doctor, you know? And I love it. It's, you know, Doctor. K on here last week, she was rad. People have loved her. Think that's great. I've been talking to her through DM for quite some time and I knew she was going be great. So here you go. So yeah, I guess your blood work done. In regards to peptides,
40:47Speaker 2So I think that 5 amino just goes great with R. And my 2 favorites for any gal is going to be AOD and Tesa. So those 2 together seem to do really well. 3
41:01Speaker 3No. All right. Number 3. Hey guys, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and creating the podcast. I listen while I'm driving almost daily. Okay. So I've heard you guys talk about pipette storage, and remember a highlight was to avoid moisture.
41:27Speaker 3on the vials and inside the container. Weird. Thinking if it's in the outside of the vial, it's probably on the inside too. Right? Should I be concerned, and is there a better container you recommend for storing?
41:47Speaker 3it does it it doesn't mean that that it's on the inside. That would be weird. Because the
42:10Speaker 3The con well, there shouldn't we don't want condensation inside of the bottle. See that? That's a
42:15Speaker 3problem if you see that. But my guess is you don't have that. And just because you have a conversation on the outside,
42:22Speaker 3So do I, and all of mine, there's conversation on the outside, not on the inside. So you're good to go.
42:29Speaker 3Well, you should be good to go, just assuming. Dry it about, dry it off, and see if there's condensation on the inside.
43:06Speaker 3easy bacteria can affect that tiny little peptide chain very easily, but a human being, not that easy. So
43:13Speaker 3yeah, did you join the right, you're on the right track and man, there's your answer. Keep doing what you've been doing. 0 Yeah. I just wrote down fridge. That's
43:21Speaker 2where, I mean, so I have, we have kids, you know, in my house and like, we don't, you know,
43:26Speaker 2they're not old. No, they do actually go in the fridge. In my office at my house, I have a nice
43:30Speaker 2sized fridge and we keep all of our peptides there that are out of the kids able to get to it. So that's what works for me. So if you have ability to do that, just keep them in that little fridge, man. It's perfect.
44:08Speaker 2Is there actually a benefit of stacking sequencing them in this way? MOTS-1C an important part of the process or can SS-31NAD
44:18Speaker 2accomplish a similar goal? I'd love to hear you guys approach these 3 and the reasoning behind it. Great question comes up all the time to us as well. Go ahead. Yeah. All right. So here's, I'll give you a,
44:30Speaker 3I'll give you a lot of points of views. So 1st of all, what do these things do? So SS-thirty
44:49Speaker 3Inside of there, that needs to be creating like, it's a power plant, right, and it needs to create the energy and then go only 1 direction. Go out 1 tube
45:09Speaker 3it starts leaking out and not all of it goes through that 1 tube that where you need it to go. Okay? SS-thirty
45:16Speaker 31 is basically plugging all of those holes. So it makes sure that your mighty call, that energy your mighty crown deer is creating, it is harnessing that, and it is all sending to the right place. Okay? So
45:30Speaker 3giving more energy to the mitochondria. Okay? It's not creating more mitochondria, it's just giving more,
46:19Speaker 31. Right? And if you ask Jay Campbell, he thinks that SS-thirty 1 should be gone done a month
46:35Speaker 3most people of a certain young age, and she didn't give us an exact number, but, you know, probably like 40,
46:44Speaker 3their mitochondria is perfectly fine. Okay? Most people, your mitochondria is perfectly fine. It's only as you get older
46:51Speaker 3is it starts to decline its energy output. And therefore, anybody young doing MOTS-3s probably not gonna feel anything and notice anything because it's not gonna take you from extra,
47:00Speaker 3it may not take you an extra physiologic, super physiological levels. Right? And so there's no point in doing it if you're younger.
47:08Speaker 3The proof is in the pudding on the MOTS-3s, right? If you do it and you go, holy shit, like I feel I have way more energy. Like life's good. That means you probably had some damage to mitochondria and you're, you're, it wasn't creating all the energy that it should have been. We know some people like that. We know people, if I take MOTS-3A, I don't really notice a difference.
47:48Speaker 3right now? It's also because I'm not sleeping as many hours as a person should, and that's like the
47:54Speaker 3that is like hands down the biggest detriment. And also still, I think I've like really just completely stopped all my testosterone.
48:01Speaker 3Whereas I weaned it down right into a low point, and now I've literally pulled it off. Total? Mostly just complete for like a month. I
48:25Speaker 3that's how those things work. And so my suggestion, I don't have a problem. I think that MOTS-331
48:37Speaker 3and I would run that, I don't know, hell 2 weeks again, minimum 5 megs a day. I really don't think it's kind of even worthwhile to do any less JD and I are doing like 30 megs a day. Yep.
48:48Speaker 3And so I don't know, a couple of weeks. And then, then I have no problem running MOTS-1s with
49:18Speaker 3So run it, solidify that. Then it's going to stay solid until some, you know, more holes get poked in it and then do it again. Yeah.
49:26Speaker 3And NAD shoot, I think NAD can be ran- Anytime. Anytime, all the time, if you want. If you don't, if you're not allergic, like the last person,
49:49Speaker 2can't even like add that much to it, except for the fact that we're blessed to be able to hang out with some people that are a hell of a lot smarter than us and know a lot more than us. That part's been a blessing.
49:58Speaker 2You know, I have, I was sitting the other night with Jay Campbell, Trevor Cruder, and Trevor's partners, his name's Doug.
50:06Speaker 2You know, they, they talk deep, deep, deep peptide stuff. I felt definitely out of my league, you know? And I say that being honest and but I am a sponge. I'm asking questions and just soaking this stuff up, and I'm blessed to be able to be pretty good friends with these are blessed
50:26Speaker 2and Josh Holyfield and everybody that comes in and there's always a slightly different opinion.
50:31Speaker 2So I don't think anybody fully, fully, fully knows, but I think we'll just nail that. I think that you're gonna, most people at this point are gonna say start with SS-31.
50:52Speaker 2at the amount that is suggested even 5 Migs. And if you can afford more, I would suggest you go up. I really do feel like it's made a really big difference in how I feel.
51:03Speaker 2You don't have to do 30 Migs like us. Obviously, we can kind of get it fairly easily, but
51:08Speaker 2just start with the SS-thirty 1 up to you on the MOTS-1C. I have not decided if I'm going to add MOTS-1C back in. You
51:19Speaker 2Know, that was perfect. Any run, run it, run it, run it. I love it. That doesn't matter. That doesn't come into this equation in my opinion at all. You should run NAD. Yep. And they're not redundant. They're not all just doing the same thing. That was 1 the main questions.
51:30Speaker 3Okay. Hey guys, I'm a 42 year old female from Australia. I've recently discovered the benefits of peptides over the last few months.
51:38Speaker 3I have been on R for almost 12 weeks. I titrated up to 2.5 mg a week. Push your limits, train with precision, see the results.
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52:30Speaker 3At the most, and this was my sweet spot, and now I'm back down to 1 mg. I'm wondering if there's more benefit coming off completely
52:38Speaker 3for 4 weeks or remaining on a low dose before going up again. I would appreciate your thoughts. I'm happy with my level of leanness and have all the foundations in place. I strength train 4 times a week, a cardio the other 3 times a week. I've just started Tessa and after listening to you guys thought about adding AOD with this while on a break from Retta.
53:08Speaker 2the 1st thing that jumped out at me was, think you answered that I'm happy with my level of leanness and have all the foundations in place. I can tell, you know what you're doing.
53:17Speaker 2I'm just even curious why you even need Retta. You know, I think if you took out the Retta and replaced it with like a 5 m 1 MQ, 1 of the things that it really goes well with people coming off Retta or while you're on it, because it's going to take, going to chew your body's going to choose to burn fat rather than glucose.
53:35Speaker 2So it does help with the burning fat. Like it's basically like you're running on keto to a degree, you know, the easiest way to explain it. And
53:44Speaker 2I've just talked with a lot of people that do well with coming off Retta and running 5MA and 1MQ, and it's a freaking amazing compound. It just is.
54:05Speaker 2And then you can kind of toy around with different things and stuff. I mean, again, if you need Retta,
54:10Speaker 2then add it back in. My opinion would be, yeah, sure. Come off it. Then try some different compounds. You sound like a disciplined human.
54:21Speaker 2keeping your weight in check, I mean, that's diet anyway. I mean, if you're, you're disciplined,
54:26Speaker 2you're not gonna have a problem with that and try some, some other fat burner stuff like 5 Amino, SLU-1MQ,
54:44Speaker 3If you, I mean, the here's the goal is to take the least effective dose. And if the least effective dose is 0, then great.
55:02Speaker 3then yeah, you should stay at your 1 and the 1 mg maintenance dose makes all the difference in the world. Then I'd stay at the 1 mg maintenance dose.
55:16Speaker 3is doing much of a reset. I also don't think a form 4 week reset at 0 is doing much of a reset.
55:24Speaker 3I I think it's negligible either way, but I'm also not mad at you for staying on a 1 mg maintenance dose. Like, I know tons of people who do and honestly,
55:46Speaker 3K? And I because I don't think that 2 2.5 Migs are just gonna work, like, so much better if you're off for 4 weeks versus being on 1 Mig 4 weeks. Yeah. But,
55:56Speaker 3yeah, it's like and JD, like, the goal is to take nothing. It sounds like you are, and the goal is to build, you know, with with these stuff, with the GLP ones. Hopefully,
56:11Speaker 3and be on it long enough where you got those habits down and then very slowly pull it out and maintain your habits of discipline
56:30Speaker 2shared this before, but if you haven't heard this part, read a what I liked about it, it's an amazing compound for me. It took me out of my discipline. Like I knew I could cheat a little bit. And then when I, you start cheating a little bit, you just start, dude, dude, dude, dude, here's my discipline. Like, as well, like I was like, damn dude, like, I'm just man, I'm super disciplined and it really started to affect me. I, I had to pull it because like, I was like, dude, listen, it's jacked up my discipline. And I'd like to be disciplined because it's just, that's where I like to sit. So maybe you're like that. Sound disciplined. So maybe
57:34Speaker 3to help with food noise. So those could be potential replacements if you need them, but I guess but that's contrary to the argument that we were just talking about, about discipline and not taking something
57:49Speaker 3Up to you though. I'm not mad at you either way. Like I totally get it. Not everybody's different. Everybody's different, different places in your life. It sounds like you're on your shit, so you're a good candidate to
57:58Speaker 2to try it on your own. Right? Yeah. Yeah. That's a good question for you anyway. I'm 33, five'eleven, 175 pounds. Highest was 2 80.
58:27Speaker 25 Amino and adding AOD-nine 604 to my stack soon for more fat burning. I already know TRT is the best way to go for prime optimization,
58:48Speaker 2at 100 micrograms and says she feels her ovaries moving. So I hope that's a good sign. Love the content. Keep up the good work. All
58:58Speaker 3last sentence, I have no idea what that means. And so I would talk to a doctor about her feeling her ovaries moving.
59:07Speaker 3Yeah, I can't, I can't speak to that. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing or like what that feels like or whatever,
59:20Speaker 3best scenario to make you as fertile as possible is to pull the tier, the test completely. I don't think he's on test.
59:29Speaker 3Well, then don't pull it. Just don't do it. Because he did say TRT is the best way to go prime optimization.
59:34Speaker 3Yes. That is true. To feel the best, look the best, but definitely not to be the most fertile.
59:39Speaker 3So if you're on test, you know and I know, but again, we I have 10 friends. JD's a a 2 time winner on this example of
1:00:00Speaker 3be more fertile. Doctor. Kiss said 3 months. She said that once you pull the test, it's going going to take 3 months,
1:00:22Speaker 3I told her I was doing like a 1500 IUs 3 times a week. She, her, her, her response to that was maybe you should do less only because
1:00:42Speaker 3Cool. When I ask for them, like when I do it, like a lot of tests, hell yeah, like everybody else, but I don't get estrogen, you know,
1:01:00Speaker 3Also told me to, I think it said like 12.5 mg of Enclomiphene. Usually they come in 12.5 mg tabs.
1:01:12Speaker 3so, cool. I'm gonna try 12.5 and the same thing, same reason and reasoning behind that.
1:01:45Speaker 3But Kisspeptin's working way upstream on your brain 1st to tell your body, Hey, let's go make my
1:02:00Speaker 3Cool. If you're not taking tests, yeah, I'd run them all. The 1 thing about money research that on the Kisspeptin-ten is like they use Kisspeptin-ten
1:02:17Speaker 3So more is not better in this case. You actually want it to be somewhere around that hundred microgram 3 times a week. K? Yeah. So at low doses, cool, it's gonna help. At high doses, it's going to hinder you.
1:02:43Speaker 3If you're not getting any luck in like 6 months, then we can start adding an HMG at like 75
1:03:48Speaker 2Do less cardio. 0 Yeah. Just get just, you know, like weight training is always a good thing for everybody, dude. That's what's going to keep you younger.
1:04:07Speaker 2Know, I like to keep mine around roughly 45 to 50 because that's where I feel the best. Doesn't mean that you're, you're me,
1:04:13Speaker 2but you're cruising man. You know, Enclomiphene is great because, you know, there are actual clinical trials that have shown that it's going to raise testosterone
1:04:31Speaker 2but I have no doubt in my mind, unless your bride might have some issues. You'll you'll get a pregnant man. If you go in school, I have like diagrams
1:04:40Speaker 3of how all of the fertility drugs work person's body. Like all of the pathways of just like, yeah, he goes from here to there, to there, to there, and what they should do and dosage
1:05:05Speaker 3show and I heard David Sinclair talk about how our can cause an eye stroke, which causes blindness in 1 eye. So like any good researcher, I research myself.
1:05:24Speaker 3on what other factors might cause this issue? For example, I remember research on Cardrian said it would cause cancer in mice, but it was a huge dose compared to the typical human dose.
1:05:38Speaker 3which is crazy. Course. That's what people talked about forever too. Also, is there a place to find these studies?
1:05:51Speaker 3which isn't great odds for something as serious and complete vision loss. Thank you for all your support and provided us. Okay. So I did some research also
1:06:22Speaker 3mid to means may affect up to 1 in 10000. Right? This is like a general label that that researchers put on some things,
1:06:57Speaker 3So some other things to look for that you can basically, I mean, there's other things that are going on. So basically
1:07:10Speaker 3small crowded optic disc, which you can go to your eye doctor and see if you have that.
1:07:15Speaker 3That's 1 of the leading, like, characteristics of somebody who might be prone to this. So if you're worried, do that, and that will probably rule you out. Prior NAION
1:07:25Speaker 3on the other eye, diabetes, hyper oh, that was sorry. From the prior sentence, previous sentence. Diabetes,
1:07:38Speaker 3There you go. Which literally is like the beginning of like, those are risks and, dude, like every condition that we ever talk about. Literally. Okay. So
1:07:47Speaker 3go to your eye doctor and make sure you don't have this small or crowded optic disc,
1:08:05Speaker 2all read, we can like look at a picture and 1 person likes it, 1 person doesn't. 1 person likes tomatoes, 1 person hates it. That's so cool about life. When I read this, I wrote down Doritos. What I mean by that is like, I'd be more worried about Doritos, bro, than being worried about the r and what you're worried about because I'm like, my brain goes,
1:08:23Speaker 21 in 10,000? Yeah. Probably won't be me. Probably won't be me. So my brain goes, I wouldn't even be worried about that. But if you are worried about it because you're not me,
1:08:34Speaker 2You know what I mean? I mean, if you're somebody that's, you know, like your risk tolerance is a lot different than mine, I mean, I used to do heroin, so like, let's jump. Yeah. I think we'll make it. So
1:08:46Speaker 2But if you're not that, which just sounds like it, then don't do it, man. Like, if you're gonna trip on it while you're taking it and like, then you start tripping because you're looking
1:08:54Speaker 2weird, you know, like just don't even do it, dude. But we'll already answered it. The chances that 1, I don't think that's accurate. 2,
1:09:02Speaker 2like I said, I would prefer you not eat Doritos rather than take an R. Yeah. And frankly, yeah,
1:09:29Speaker 3Right. And you know, Hey, like, look dude, again, I'm not, I don't have all the answers. What I just said is what I got from my,
1:09:37Speaker 3you know, hour or so of research. I'm not saying that I've written a book on this and know everything.
1:09:49Speaker 3reliable research and then read through the lines. You know, don't read headlines for sure of research studies because
1:09:55Speaker 3there's all types of different parameters in every study that, you know, and who's it sponsored by that can just you can take the same exact data and spin it however way you want it, whatever interest your group wants to
1:10:16Speaker 2We've all heard it. I heard your hair falls out. I heard it like your teeth fall out and all that stuff. And it's like, listen,
1:10:30Speaker 2You know what I mean? Like, I've used this before, but like, have you ever seen a tweaker? Like they don't look right because they don't eat. You what know I mean? And they don't sleep.
1:10:40Speaker 2maybe we can blame the Semaglutide because they weren't eating because of it. So I guess you can kind of, but like, don't eat it then don't take it. If you're not eating, you need to eat. We're supposed to eat. So,
1:10:55Speaker 2Good day. Just want to say how much I love your podcast. Thank you. I'm 53 and recently post menopausal.
1:11:02Speaker 2I started Mounjaro in November 2005 and have lost 13 kilogram, which is about 29 pounds. Thank you for that. That was awesome. Joaquin ones led me into peptides as they do. And I've since used BPC-one hundred 57 GHK-3Mgs
1:11:40Speaker 2So I've paused all peptides while I recover. Once well, I'm considering starting Mounjaro and 2.5 mg and gradually returning to 5 mg followed by Epitalon,
1:12:05Speaker 2R-3x9 and the kangaroos. You've awesome. You guys love this podcast. I love it. I have to come out to the, we're gonna have to make 1 day a trip to Australia.
1:12:58Speaker 3If it's not sealing and the doctor can't help you, that's when we start adding in, like, oral KPV and oral BPC.
1:13:06Speaker 3Or you can try that on your beforehand, but you already went to the doctor, and it seems like this doctor might have been help helpful. But, that's what oral KPV and oral BPC are for.
1:13:17Speaker 3The then there's no Mounjaro. Right? There's no really there's no evidence at all that says it will worsen
1:13:33Speaker 3and not enough nutrients that can be caused by that can be an effect of that, but not
1:13:46Speaker 3I don't know. I think that, I don't know. What was the exact question here? Oh, you have 1 thing I wanted to point out. Like, good, great. I would say once you are cleared of infection and this is done, then great. Get started. Everything you just said, not worried about
1:14:31Speaker 2because like the hundred. I thought that was smart. Yeah. Absolutely. Think it sounds great.
1:14:37Speaker 2I mean, here's the thing. We take steroids and we take antibiotics and we've all done it. Unfortunately they really just
1:14:46Speaker 2Jack our stomach up. You know, I think a lot of the problems as humans that we run into are because of those, you know, and that's what doctors know to prescribe and that is what it is.
1:14:58Speaker 2But there's a lot of chain reactions that come to that stuff. So, I mean, I'm going to answer a little bit differently because I think that you need to go right into the KPV and the oral BPC pills. I think that you should be starting to run those.
1:15:31Speaker 2You know, again, always just use my experience with life. I've had gut problems and I feel knock on wood and jinx myself that they're feeling a lot better than they were. Now I will tell you that I have been on a protocol from Doctor. Scott for a while, but I have been taking the KPV and the BPC
1:15:52Speaker 2I've had leaky gut forever. You know, I have yeast and like, what do I have SIBO and all those crap? Whatever
1:16:05Speaker 3that too, but what did, whatever the outbreak was that it was in bad meat. Yeah. What the hell it's going to bug you with a C Salmon. No, no, no. It starts with the C. It was like killing people. They found that in your gut. Yeah. So anyways, my goat was Jack's, but
1:16:19Speaker 2so do that, try that. And yeah, I don't think they need any new weight necessarily. I think those,
1:16:38Speaker 3worried about, I guess I just, worry about infection, right? Leaky guy, like that's toxic stuff making your septic and you need to know about that. So
1:16:50Speaker 3but I have no problem. I mean, I guess I have no problem. I would personally take the oral BPC and KPV immediately.
1:17:03Speaker 2It's definitely different for women, but like, let's throw some fasting in there. Fasting will reboot your gut. And when you get to about a 16 hour,
1:17:25Speaker 2you would reboot your gut so well, and that would start you off on a great Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox,
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1:19:13Speaker 31? I prefer a lean small frame as I always have been running performance feels best at this size growing a stupid amount of humans
1:19:31Speaker 3was my max prego weight. I believe slight muscle gain, not fat loss, can increase the definition and fullness through my lower back, abdomen, and ass filling out that skin question mark. Anything I have considered? GH peptides make me way too bloaty at invisible doses. Okay. So not worth it for me. Mahalo for all your knowledge. I learned so much from you. Yeah. We got a Hawaii gal. Love it. Wonder what island she lives on. I
1:20:11Speaker 2pretty tiny to me. Was kind of curious where I don't think you need Retta. 12% body fat. Tiny
1:20:19Speaker 2for a woman, right? Yeah. So like, I wouldn't give my wife Retta at all. Like, I'm not, that's like Alyssa. It does like Alyssa. That's what I was Maybe even leaner. So like, I wouldn't even do that. Like you, what I you're a runner. So I would throw in SLU-3.332
1:20:36Speaker 2you can, you don't need the red. I think that are that you're gonna, I think you're gonna get a lot from that. Now you said that you don't do well on growth hormones,
1:20:46Speaker 2peptides, but have you tried HGH or 45? Maybe 1 IU. I mean, you really need low dose for a gal. Well, I mean, every other day or 5 days on 2 days off. Yeah. It's gonna help you recover. You're going to sleep well. I mean, it takes a little while for it to hit you, but you will start sleeping well, I think right away. And I would try that rather than the Tessa Ipah because if you feel like you're getting waterway,
1:21:18Speaker 2or go, which, which we prefer more here at over 40 for men and women is just small dose of HGH.
1:21:35Speaker 3I would agree in some of that, but, but yeah, so at 12%, so men, they generally say like, here's the healthy,
1:21:58Speaker 3is what a normal average healthy woman is. And I could, you know, lower that a little bit, maybe like 17, but like under 15%,
1:22:07Speaker 3you know, you theoretically, you stop ovulating because God says you have, don't have enough fat to support another child. Now she might be saying, she might say
1:22:16Speaker 3bullshit. I had 6 of them when I was this lean, but like, cool. I'm just saying what the,
1:22:29Speaker 3You're a but basically, the body doctor said is you're right. You do not need to burn any more fat.
1:22:35Speaker 3Adding muscle will be everything that you want it to be. Like, that needs to be your primary goal, which is why you were asking about IGF-one.
1:22:44Speaker 3I don't I just don't know. I I I don't know. I guess I don't I don't have a good feeling about the IGF-one for you right now. Think I totally agreed on the HGH.
1:22:57Speaker 3any 5 bloating. I know you said you did the GH peptides at invisible doses and still got bloating, but
1:23:15Speaker 3You might be a good candidate. The 1st thing that pokes out at me though is I would stop running.
1:23:20Speaker 3And I know that you're gonna be, well, I I I get it. Like, that's what makes me happy, but you also lift, like, find something else that is lifting related
1:23:46Speaker 3you're never gonna add much muscle. You're just burning it all off. Yeah. It is what it is. So I don't even I do have 1 try not even strong enough. Like you would need to do something like testosterone and shit testosterone might be the answer. Is. Low goes testosterone might be your best,
1:24:10Speaker 3I still don't change my answer based on that age. 60, 70 miles a week running man. That's, there's no way you can drive that far. Like no fucking wonder. Right?
1:24:21Speaker 3So yeah, I would find something you could do, jump off cliffs or something, or like lift really heavy and,
1:24:28Speaker 3do HIIT training, but max 30 minutes, right? The thing about HIIT training is so you go and you stop at 30 minutes, so then your body doesn't start eating into your muscle and burning that off for fuel.
1:24:50Speaker 2protein, protein, protein. Yeah. That's all I got for you. Last question. All right. I'm 43, 6, 2 90 pounds down 2 15 since starting R.
1:25:01Speaker 2I lift regularly, get blood work every 6 months. And my total T has been around 4 20 to 4 65.
1:25:21Speaker 2got into peptides 5 or 6 months ago and quickly went from 1 goal to wanting to optimize body comp, energy, recovery, hormones, and longevity. We know how that works. I've heard Trevor Cruder and Jay Campbell on your show talk about planning their protocols
1:25:36Speaker 2for the entire year. How do you guys actually build a smart annual plan without making it a full time job? And how do you know what to truly belongs in the plans versus hearing about something new and thinking, well, I guess I need that too. That was a great question.
1:25:51Speaker 3That is a good question. My 1st question though, is this is the 3rd time that somebody said it, JD, what do you think when somebody says I'm doing CLO 5 mg or
1:26:32Speaker 3with Migs. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yes. That's what I was thinking. That's what was thinking about the last girl, which says 3 mgs.
1:26:45Speaker 2well that's not it, but I weren't talking about the blend. Yeah. No, I'm saying she did. That makes me think she's it's not units because she's got that. So
1:26:58Speaker 3how do you, okay. Do I plan my stuff out for a year? The answer, my answer is no. I do not.
1:27:09Speaker 3Can tell you what I've done in the past. Right? And, like, it just kinda works out like that. Now if we're talking about testosterone,
1:27:15Speaker 3and I know that's not really what you're talking about, but, like, I I generally, in the past couple years, have done, like, cruising and blasting. And so cruising,
1:27:29Speaker 3do that. And this is not advice for you to do. I'm just telling you this is what I've done is
1:27:35Speaker 32 months off, then bump that up, add some like small cutting compound and run that for 4 months. Take
1:27:55Speaker 3not really struggling yet to have a child. I haven't been trying that much, but that's why there could be potential struggles.
1:28:43Speaker 3proven peptides and, and, something that just maybe heard something about, I don't know, we probably would just like, let's try it. Yeah. Yeah. But we do. Not a good advice. I'm just telling you what it is. Well, 2,
1:28:54Speaker 2there's a little side note. I mean, there's some compounds coming out that are gaining some notoriety. I won't talk about them yet because, but we
1:29:05Speaker 2well, actually see the compounds that are fairly common out there that we are about to release ourselves. But the reason I'm bringing this up is we don't usually do this stuff until we try them because that's so that's just the way it is just because everybody's talking about it doesn't mean that it's correct. Especially on the internet world, Trevor and Jay are obviously men who are in the know
1:29:34Speaker 2especially in, you know, we are dump dumpster fires for, we still have those, like, you know, we were come from a day. Those guys, Jay and him, like had their lives planned out also. Yeah. Well, so like people that are like super healthy are going to tell you generally what they're going to eat. And that part is great. Know, for me,
1:29:56Speaker 2dialed in. However, I changed that up. This morning I got up and I knew I was going to lift heavy and my wife has made our grudge into a gym. Now I ate some carbs because I knew it was going to lift.
1:30:07Speaker 2And then I ate some carbs after. And so I will switch it up and stuff like that. So I'm like a spur of the moment off the cuff type of a dude. I will never plan out my protocols a year in advance because I know I won't stick to it. I go off of, I am very like goal oriented. I think that's where will and I different for like, he doesn't have an objective. He likes to look how he looks and that works for him. I like to like sometimes look a lot buffer.
1:30:31Speaker 2Sometimes I want to look a lot leaner. I do that because I like the discipline of like changing things up and then trying different things on eating different ways, lifting different ways.
1:30:42Speaker 2And so that will change my protocol. But I will tell you live and learn when we, we know when I 1st started our company and we had access to certain things,
1:30:51Speaker 2it was a problem for me because I was like, yeah, bro, let's do all of that. And a lot of it. Like, that's definitely was not wise, but I learned and now I don't do that. And it works a lot better when you don't do that. Well, I like 4 compounds that varies a little bit for me.
1:31:12Speaker 2If you're taking 8 compounds, which I've done, not judging you, how do you know what's working? You don't because I'm telling you with experience,
1:31:20Speaker 2I know that it doesn't. If you take, especially your brand new to peptide or, you know, peptides,
1:31:26Speaker 2just do 2. Start with our start with BPC. So those are the gateway drugs I call them because they work right away
1:31:37Speaker 2So you know how they work. I didn't do it like that. So I'm giving you advice from me doing it wrong, you know? But now I do do that and I feel better. And like now when I run SS-31and
1:31:51Speaker 3Yeah. Don't really have much more to add other than look, you're 43 and your testosterone test out at 04:24 65. If it were me, I would hands down, I'd go on testosterone.
1:32:09Speaker 3And, you know, I do things that, hey. Look. If I injure myself, that's time to blast some BPC and TB. I don't like to plan stuff out in the year because, like, goals change in life and, like, things change.
1:32:26Speaker 3well, I'm not gonna plan it out knowing that I'm gonna change it, that the things were gonna happen. Right? And I don't wanna be bound and stuck to something
1:32:39Speaker 3yeah, yeah, something might come up and be like, damn, I'm really feeling some brain fog. Like, I just
1:32:44Speaker 3ran into a wall with my bike. I better take a bunch of new tropics to like rebuild my traumatic brain injury. Shit
1:33:02Speaker 2And so they're radically different personality. They're going after a different objective and that's going to change. Good
1:33:09Speaker 2question, guys. Listen, we, the coaching call is going to be Pacific Standard Time, and we're going to be doing it on Thursday
1:33:18Speaker 2They will be recorded. I'm assuming we'll we'll put them on school, but like, if you wanna have some interaction,
1:33:25Speaker 2get on there. Because my goal with that is to motivate the shit out of you, man. I love talking about
1:33:32Speaker 2I love talking about discipline. I'm gonna show you particularly how I went from sticking a needle in my arm to
1:33:39Speaker 2pretty successful guy who I think most would call successful. And like that cultivated through discipline. Will will tell you there's times when I'm like a psycho about it because
1:33:47Speaker 2it's empowering dude when you like enforce discipline, man. And, we're going to talk a lot about the cultivation
1:33:53Speaker 2of how you do that, right? How do you build discipline? It's a muscle, right? Like you do hard shit, right? Like the red is great. Well, take the red out and don't eat when you're hungry. That's discipline.
1:34:05Speaker 2So yeah, we're going to talk a lot about that and a heck of a lot more. We're going to start, we're also going to talk about business building. We're going to talk about cultivation of building a brand.
1:34:14Speaker 2It's not just a coaching program. We're going get you in shape. That part's obvious. You want to get ripped, but like, let's build a bad ass life too. Right. And let's do it together. I'm excited. So Thursday,
1:34:30Speaker 2Listen, there's a lot of you Aussies that listen, I love it. There's a guy that's that's from Australia that we live with. He's great. You're probably listening to this man. Shout out to you. I saw him yesterday. Haven't seen him in a while. He had a son in there. It was awesome. Met his son. Yeah.
1:34:52Speaker 2If you want to get ripped, we'll help you get there. But, we want to push you a little further. Poor Rob had a yeah. Accidental
1:34:59Speaker 3block party on his hands at his house when he came back for dinner the other day. They were gone for 4 weeks. They were traveling to
1:35:11Speaker 2And I was like, dude, you were living at a hotel for a month. He said, yeah. I said, that sounds like hell.
1:35:26Speaker 2I forgot. That's how we do it. And that's how we do it. But other than that, we will remember,
1:35:32Speaker 2do you like the guests? Do you like us to do a blend? Do you like the compounds talking about like that? We've been kind of straying away from that because we've been busy with guests. We want feedback guys,
1:35:43Speaker 2good, bad, ugly. We will read it into you won't offend us. Right? We got thick skin. And other than that, we'll catch you in the next round later.