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0:54Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast.
0:57Speaker 2I'm your host JD Denham.
0:59Speaker 2Like always across the way, mister William T. Haws.
1:03Speaker 3What's up? Good to be here. Q and A. Q
1:06Speaker 2and A day. It's a Tuesday is a Q and A day.
1:10Speaker 2Dude, I was thinking last night. It was crazy. We I don't know what I was doing that made me trigger this, but it's like, holy shit, the summer is over almost.
1:18Speaker 2Yeah.
1:19Speaker 3You know,
1:20Speaker 2I'm right. I know that that happened.
1:22Speaker 3Well, the summer, I mean, luckily here in California, right? Our summer goes till November,
1:26Speaker 3but as far as weather goes,
1:29Speaker 3but you're right.
1:31Speaker 3Is really hot. Yeah. If you, if you live in Seattle where I'm from summer starts, if you're lucky after July 4
1:38Speaker 3and it ends abruptly like September 1.
1:42Speaker 3So that's a short summer. The only thing you have to look good to look forward to is football season starting.
1:47Speaker 2But
1:48Speaker 3yeah, these poor kids, I mean, like 2 weeks into the summer, I go into a store and there's like back to school sale.
1:56Speaker 3I hate those people, marketing people. I'm like, dude, let these let everybody just enjoy summer, please.
2:02Speaker 3Is that bugging us? I mean, somebody was saying I went to school, there was, you know, pumpkins and
2:07Speaker 3and Thanksgiving stuff out. Chill out on the selling of stuff right now. But
2:13Speaker 3yeah, summer's over, even though I set up a slip and slide in our backyard last night
2:18Speaker 3and
2:19Speaker 3I was also slip and sliding
2:21Speaker 3at like 09:30PM.
2:23Speaker 2So, and it was still warm outside. I know. I saw, I saw those pictures you sent. Like I was like, dude, I want a pool. I got stoked with a huge backyard, but no pool. I needed a pool.
2:33Speaker 2Do do. I'll
2:35Speaker 2be sitting in the Jacuzzi a lot. Yeah. I take a hot bath
2:38Speaker 2almost every night. I soak in, this is gonna, well,
2:42Speaker 2pump you milk. No, I soak in apple cider vinegar,
2:46Speaker 2Epsom salt and
2:49Speaker 2baking soda, which is supposed to draw out toxins. If I don't do a bath, I will do just my feet.
2:55Speaker 3I did that with my feet the other day. Feels good, right? Like scolding.
2:59Speaker 2You used do as hard as you can. And, you know, it's funny off
3:03Speaker 2camera. We were talking about how I was telling them that
3:06Speaker 2I haven't feeling freaking amazing. Like I've been feeling amazing
3:10Speaker 2lately, just
3:12Speaker 2constant energy,
3:14Speaker 2clarity of thought,
3:15Speaker 2waking up just with vigor and just, and it's, it's been the best I have felt in quite some time.
3:22Speaker 21, I've been sleeping better, so that definitely probably plays a big role in it. You know, I've made some shifts and we'll probably talk about that in some of the questions,
3:29Speaker 2but I have been doing that. So that's another thing I didn't think of. I've been soaking my feet or soaking in a bath almost every night because I'm so OCD
3:36Speaker 2that it makes me, like, get tired.
3:39Speaker 2And
3:40Speaker 2almost after my bath, I go right to bed. Absolutely.
3:44Speaker 2It, like, a hot bath makes you tired. I used to wake up when I couldn't sleep at, 2 and take hot bath because I get tired.
3:51Speaker 2But yeah, man, that's what I'm gonna do with apple cider vinegar. My wife buys these big ass things with apple cider vinegar now. I didn't ask her. That's just why my wife rules. But
4:00Speaker 2you attribute most of this energy to your SS-thirty 1. I mean, so you know us and everything we do, we kind of think through like, why do I feel great? There's nothing that really has changed except for my protocol. I, we have greatly enhanced our SS-thirty 1, both of us. And
4:17Speaker 2I have no doubt in my mind that plays a big role in it. I can just kind of tell and they feel great.
4:23Speaker 2Now I have been
4:26Speaker 2teetering back and forth on throwing MOTS-1s): I haven't ran MOTS-1s): in quite some time.
4:32Speaker 2I felt MOTS-1s): Tired me. I
4:36Speaker 2don't know if that was just my head. I definitely was taking too many compounds at the time. Well, you guys need to realize when, when I started our company, we are both in recovery. So like when we have access to things, we're like, yes. Yeah.
4:48Speaker 2Like, are you putting up bodies? We're studying and like reading about all this stuff and it's like, we want to try it because like, that's just who we are. And then like, we were like, if I do 18 of these-
4:58Speaker 2know what mean? More is better. Then all of sudden you get overwhelmed and like, feel weird.
5:04Speaker 2So I've toned it down and now I just do few and it's been better. You know, it's working and stuff, but live and learn, man. That's what we talked about. The
5:10Speaker 2research on ourselves. There's nothing like it, dude.
5:13Speaker 2You know, like even like stuff back in our days when, you know, and we, Will and I have talked openly about this because why would we lie? We're grownups. Allowed to do what we want. You know, we've ran numerous singles of gear and that's how we learned it. Like,
5:26Speaker 2and I are very different.
5:27Speaker 2Everybody knows that by now, but where we really come together and we are the same is we study things that we're intrigued at. That's where the connection has been built of,
5:36Speaker 2you know, we don't just blindly take shit. Like study it. We want to know why. Like, so that part is where I think the connection like stands
5:45Speaker 2holds strong, like we study stuff. Like, we've tried so many different compounds and it's crazy because
5:50Speaker 2again,
5:52Speaker 2reading about something's great,
5:55Speaker 2how you feel
5:56Speaker 2is totally different. Completely. You have to actually work to do.
6:00Speaker 2Like you feel like this,
6:02Speaker 2which 1 do you feel? I'm going to follow the way that I feel because I it's,
6:07Speaker 2I've, it's my, my life has proved that like it breeds like this, but
6:12Speaker 2I feel like this, I'm gonna go without feel. You know what mean? Yep. Because that's as priceless.
6:18Speaker 2And you never know unless you try. Right. Everybody's different, dude. It's crazy, because now we talk to so many people that try so many different compounds.
6:24Speaker 2There's also many here, the questions that talks about having a reaction to NAD.
6:29Speaker 2And I've never heard of what they said, but like, everybody's different. My wife gets reactions to numerous peptides and she's my bride, you know? And like,
6:38Speaker 2is what it is.
6:39Speaker 2It's your body. Yep. Blame God. Blame God. God does not want you to take that peptide. It is what it is. But you can take a lot of others. And the cool thing is there's like some, there's a buckets of different peptides that do virtually
6:52Speaker 2the same thing, sometimes different angles.
6:54Speaker 2You know what I mean? Like, if 1 doesn't work for you,
6:57Speaker 2there's a lot of others that do the same thing, kind of. You know what I mean? Like, what a cool thing.
7:02Speaker 2But yeah, so summer is over. I,
7:05Speaker 2went with my family to Disneyland, and I hate Disneyland. I'm not a big crowd type guy.
7:12Speaker 2Just too much loud noises. I'm like rain man, dude. Like, v e r n. Like, you know, like, that's why when my kids screams, dude, like, I'm like, where do I run? Stop. You know? And,
7:21Speaker 2but dude, it was cool. Justin was out and, he brought his family. His kids had never been. Wow. So that I got to experience that with them.
7:29Speaker 2And, we had a blast, dude. We, we,
7:32Speaker 3uh- Did you get the wristbands and go to the front of the lines? My wife does all that stuff. Yeah.
7:36Speaker 3There's no chance in hell I'm going to Disneyland to ride rides. Well, there's no chance in hell I'm gonna go to Disneyland without riding rides. And
7:43Speaker 2there's no chance now I'm going without the wristband that gets me to the front of the line. I'm not waiting 3 hours. My wife does that. And the 1 thing I love about my wife would like, I'll give you a funny story about my bride. I know you're listening to this too, babe, and this is a funny story. So my son used to always love, Blippi,
7:59Speaker 2loved him. And 1,
8:01Speaker 2wanted to get tickets. He was coming live, not the real Blippi, but they were doing some like dancing show and all this stuff. And Jack's loved him. And my wife
8:09Speaker 2got some tickets and I wasn't gonna go because I was doing something, probably something for work. But then I caught myself and like, I'm like, why would I miss this with my son? Like, he loves it. So then I said, no, I'm going to go. And so of course my wife has to get another ticket. So we walk into this big ass stadium and I'm following my wife and
8:26Speaker 2I'm like, wow, we're getting really close to the front.
8:28Speaker 2And I'm like,
8:30Speaker 2we're getting really close.
8:32Speaker 2I'm like, we are in the front freaking row, honey. Did you, how much did you spend on these tickets, babe? And she starts laughing. I'm like, you know, my wife, I'm like,
8:41Speaker 2God, I love her, dude.
8:43Speaker 2Doesn't
8:44Speaker 2always get
8:45Speaker 3well,
8:48Speaker 3came home or here's a picture of my wife building this thing. It's like an outdoor movie theater. It's about the 45 foot screen. Yeah. It's part of her charm, bro. She will
8:58Speaker 2do backflips
8:59Speaker 2for my sons, man. 1 of the things I love is she's 1 the best moms I know, but man, she likes to spend. Yeah.
9:06Speaker 2You know what I mean?
9:07Speaker 3God bless her heart. Shout out to Huntington Beach. So we went to Rivers 1st football practice, flag football, and there was a lot of kids. We just moved him to Huntington here. He's been in San Juan or Dan Point forever,
9:21Speaker 3has been playing at Friday night lights football and he's good at his flag football. He's 10. But
9:26Speaker 3all of his baseball friends are on
9:28Speaker 3a Huntington Beach flag football team and they're good athletes, but that team was full.
9:34Speaker 3They had to like make a 2nd team. Right? And Rivers on the 2nd team and there was like 4 kids at practice yesterday.
9:41Speaker 3Shout out to anybody Huntington Beach. If you have a kid that's
9:44Speaker 210 1 years old and wants to play football, we need players on the Sure. Would've never thought that would be hard to feel like my wife has signed up jacks for soccer, AYSO, AYSO, and she was on a call
9:55Speaker 2And, I called her for something and she answers it and she's like, you need to be a coach. I'm like, what? Like, what? I don't even know what she meant. Like, need coaches. They can't find enough coaches. I need you to be coaching. I'm like, babe, I would love to. I am so freaking busy. Like, the hell am gonna find out No way. 1 day. But like Yeah. But, but yeah. Well, okay. Yeah. But I was not 1 that they could have been coach. Some point in time. I know. That's weird. My dad did that when I was young dude. So I'll definitely do it for Jacks.
10:21Speaker 2It's been a long time since I played soccer. What are the rules? I don't even remember that. I don't know. That age,
10:26Speaker 3are the rules. It doesn't really matter. And even if you kick in the other goal, like you scored.
10:30Speaker 2Yeah.
10:31Speaker 2It's so funny, dude, has,
10:34Speaker 2I mean, you've seen it over and over with like brothers and sisters. You got, they're so always just totally different. Like
10:41Speaker 2Jax and Mason are so radically different.
10:44Speaker 2Jax is just athletic.
10:46Speaker 2He's agile. He's flipping and jumping and spinning on things. Mason tries to copy him for sure. And he'll roll and stuff. He's got his little belly. He's just such a little chunky baby. And he tries it. He's like, you can see athleticism and then like Mason, not as much, you know what I mean? And like, God, but I'll be all Mason. You want a bite of this? He goes, yeah.
11:07Speaker 3Jackson, you want a bite? No. Nope. And he stays lean and yeah.
11:11Speaker 3It's a little bit this. Good stuff, man. Yep.
11:15Speaker 3Now football season, the good thing. Yeah. So anyway, that'd be cool. We would like to, and then there's some young kids on the team, but
11:21Speaker 2River looked really good. Yeah. He's good. I was watching him when we went to the beach. You can see well, just like Jack's, he he has athleticism.
11:29Speaker 2You can tell balance. Yeah. Yes. Body type. He looks like a fighter. He looks like a fighter. He does. Yep. But the also the coach looks cool. The coach is this big muscle dude who,
11:39Speaker 3who is a ex, I don't know, Marie. I don't want just say Marine because, but maybe he's still in the military,
11:46Speaker 3but watching him run around and play with the kids like he's athletic. You could tell. I was like, damn, dude's got a quick feet. He gets thrown, like, not like a girl.
11:55Speaker 4And
11:56Speaker 3still with lots
11:57Speaker 3of muscles. So that's cool. I'm excited that the coach will be good. Hopefully, we just have enough kids. I'm not worried about enough kids to fill the team, worried about enough kids to be not be embarrassed.
12:09Speaker 3You gotta feel good too, bro. You gotta feel yeah. I think they'll probably make that. I mean, not at 4. He's 10.
12:15Speaker 2There's some kids
12:17Speaker 3he's going he was held back, so he's going into 4th grade.
12:20Speaker 2Just
12:22Speaker 2turned 10. Yeah. That's still pretty young. So,
12:25Speaker 2but anyway, 6 plus 6th grade gets a little bit more competitive. Yeah. 9th obviously.
12:30Speaker 3And it's flagged, dude. And like kids are parents are putting their kids in tackle football now. And honestly, from somebody who's played division 1 football,
12:39Speaker 3dude, football's a sport where it's like, either got it or you It's
12:44Speaker 3not like baseball. Baseball is like a basketball too. Like you better, well, you better be built for it in basketball, but you better practice your ass off. Right? Baseball is a
12:52Speaker 3basketball.
12:54Speaker 3Throwing the ball right. Throwing the ball right, hitting. You just gotta see so many pitches and
12:59Speaker 3football's not. And I think that starting tackle, all you're doing is just adding all these small little nagging injuries.
13:06Speaker 3I'm not worried about concussions for little kids because they just don't run fast enough to hurt each other. Right? But I do worry about, you know, it just sucks if, if you've played for 5 years and you've already ripped your fingernails off your hands and, you know, broken fingers. It
13:20Speaker 2is. But why add an extra 5 years of it? Well, I didn't, I played soccer until 9th grade and I didn't play football, but you know, you're always playing football with your boys and stuff like before that. But like I jumped right into 9th grade, man just played it. You know? Yeah. You either got it or you got it. So that's the athleticism that we talked about to where that's what Jack's does. He's just always flipping, doing something athletic. I remember I would sit in front of my TV and throw the ball and catch it. And like, you know, you throw it off and like, catch You learn how to catch That
13:51Speaker 2softened my hands for sure.
13:53Speaker 3It's the same with exercise. So folks, people ask, people say, hey, I wanna get in shape. Right?
13:58Speaker 3And they go, okay, how many times a week do I need to work out? And like, it's think about this. If I say, you need to work out for an hour, 5 days a week, but then people go, okay, that's what I need to do to get in shape, but it's not about that. So that means out of a week that's 24 hours times 7 days, you're working out for 5 hours. Right. That's not going to cut it. What you need to do is your whole life needs to change. You need to enjoy
14:22Speaker 3going for hikes on the weekend. Right? You need to go jog at the park or go play, play football with your friends. You need to go swimming on the weekends. This needs to be just like constant motion. Yeah. Needs to be
14:33Speaker 3the new game plan. Yeah. Especially not just blocks
14:37Speaker 3of like
14:38Speaker 3little, just blocks of, of weightlifting.
14:42Speaker 2I know that we're going to talk about our coaching, Warrior Makers coaching.
14:46Speaker 2I think it's unique from the standpoint
14:49Speaker 2that not because it's our company. I think it's unique because it is unique. And what I mean by that is you have 4 You don't get a coach. You get 4 coaches, Will and myself, obviously.
14:58Speaker 2Dave Thomas, who we have hired, who is a freaking beast in the gym, and I love working out with him and he, he works out like a monster.
15:06Speaker 2So we got him and then our obviously consultant Mike,
15:09Speaker 2and we all bring a different flare and we're all our different ages. 1 of the things that I've been thinking a lot about just off of my own experience of life, I'm 49 years old and man, I'm telling you, I've changed a lot in the last year, quite a bit from just things where I just, it's at 49, it's not about going in like lifting really heavy like I used to. I just can't,
15:30Speaker 2cause I want to continue. So it's lifting different. So you were going to be able to pass that knowledge on to men that are 50 and that are 40, because that's even different. And that are 30. That's totally different.
15:41Speaker 2That's huge.
15:43Speaker 2Secondly,
15:44Speaker 2when you eat certain foods is
15:48Speaker 2you getting in shape, right? I mean specifically
15:51Speaker 2carbs in this, if you want a bulk, if you want to cut
15:55Speaker 2carb control is really the key, you know, macros for sure. But like,
16:01Speaker 2if you don't know that stuff, that's where a coach is going to really shine because we've done it our whole lives. And there's a lot of people that have never even gone to a gym. You know what I mean? And
16:11Speaker 2we say it all the time. And I even coaches have coaches. That's right. Michael Jordan,
16:16Speaker 2not a coach,
16:17Speaker 2you know?
16:19Speaker 2And a lot of time it's just to push people. But 1 of the, here's a couple of things that I like about our program,
16:25Speaker 2obviously it's a detailed diet plan macros,
16:28Speaker 2mainly, or, or, or if you do want a,
16:32Speaker 2carnivore,
16:33Speaker 2we'll help you with that. I love carnivore. So that's not for everybody, but if for the right people, we will help you that. Obviously detailed workout program.
16:41Speaker 2Now,
16:42Speaker 2a lot of stuff's going to be in the gym because most people are going to lift weights. Now we are in the process as we speak of uploading about 35 of my hit training videos that are literally great. I'm not just saying that they are great. I started watching some of them again. I'm like, damn, I was kicking ass back then. They're about 0.5 old, but they're badass. So we'll have those for the people that like maybe do some weight training and hit training. If you do hit training, you burn fat for 48 hours. No joke. So that will be added into it. Obviously 1 on 1 check ins,
17:15Speaker 2that's huge for accountability.
17:17Speaker 2Again, you get 4 coaches. What we've decided we're going to do is on Fridays,
17:23Speaker 2us 4 as coaches are going to sit down and we are going to go through each
17:27Speaker 2person that's in the program. And we're going to look at what they're doing, how they're doing. And we're going to give 4 perspectives on how we get them to their goal. I don't know any other company or any other coaching program that does that. Goal is to get you
17:39Speaker 2whatever your objective is to get you there fast.
17:42Speaker 2So yeah, so obviously month, weekly zoom calls where we're going to talk about a lot about a lot, not just
17:50Speaker 2fitness diets,
17:52Speaker 2discipline,
17:53Speaker 2cultivation of mindset, the stuff I love. So I'm going to be running those. And once a month, we're going to do a workout with the people that are either local
18:02Speaker 2or the people that might be here or the people that just might want to come and like
18:07Speaker 2touch the group and get involved.
18:09Speaker 2I'm
18:10Speaker 2so excited about this program. Like if you see some of the stuff we post about warrior makers and just the crew we have,
18:17Speaker 2trust me, you want to be involved with people that are what we do. There's we have the raddest people that work here.
18:24Speaker 3Pretty cool. I'm excited about it. Yep. And yes, he's right. We do it too. All, it's like a clinical team approach where
18:33Speaker 3we took this kind of from treat treatment. Right? You have all these people who are in treatment. They have different counselors that do different things. And then once a week, they all have a meeting about and go over every single client and
18:45Speaker 3say, how is he doing with this? How's he doing with that? What can we support him better at? And so we do the same thing with all of the clients that are in this program. Excited about that. Yeah. Think it's, yeah, absolutely. 0 So we got big things. And if you, if you are curious about the program
18:59Speaker 2and you're ready to get in shape again, it doesn't even need you might need to lose weight. You might just want to get ripped.
19:05Speaker 2You might want to bulk.
19:07Speaker 2And when it comes to supplementation
19:09Speaker 2help, we're obviously going to give you supplementation help because that's what we do. So
19:14Speaker 2it's going to be bad ass, man. I'm excited. So that's the coaching thing.
19:18Speaker 2You do want to let us know, we do have a website. You can just call, you can just jump on there, warriormakerscoaching.com,
19:25Speaker 2and you can just sign up.
19:26Speaker 2You will get notified right away that you're in the program and where you go from there. And you get a full swag bag on the Centurion program. Get a t shirt on the legionary program, but go to that website. It's very simple and it outlines everything that we just talked about. Yeah. Let's like, we're looking for some cool people that are ready to, join the warrior maker team and let's do big shit together.
19:50Speaker 2Secondly, school, a lot of people are on school, but 1 of the things that we are dropping, if you have not been on school, get on school, we give so much free freaking content. I mean, protocols up the butt, up the dinging. If they say, just
20:05Speaker 2that alone is awesome. Like, you know, if you're looking on how to mix, what to do, blah, blah, blah, that's just the basics.
20:11Speaker 2Man, Will has gone deep dives into a lot of rad content that you could be 1 busy for days just reading in-4s. More that isn't posted that we are
20:21Speaker 3working on and are releasing.
20:23Speaker 2Yeah. We are releasing
20:25Speaker 2a woman's
20:27Speaker 2talk
20:28Speaker 2women's table
20:30Speaker 2talk with the gals from warrior makers. I was actually ironically
20:35Speaker 2reading through the questions today and I noticed that most of them per ladies today. So we have a lot of ladies out there that, listen to the show,
20:44Speaker 2and have a lot of questions and, you know, Nora, Sarah, and B behind
20:49Speaker 2stage
20:50Speaker 2back there, the producer we're going to do, they're putting out some cool stuff. So that's going to be dropping on school as well. Are we doing that on VIP or normal?
21:02Speaker 3Okay. For premium or VIP? Well,
21:08Speaker 3there's 2 different levels, so we will figure that out. Yeah.
21:12Speaker 2But
21:13Speaker 2we're always trying to upgrade and stuff and we have our hands in a lot of cookie jars, so sometimes just be patient, but we will improve everything.
21:22Speaker 2Lastly,
21:23Speaker 2ironically leading into that,
21:25Speaker 2what do you want? We've talked about even elevating this podcast.
21:29Speaker 2And I don't stay stagnant. We are in constant growth in our lives and what we do. Hopefully you've seen that just from the progression of this podcast,
21:38Speaker 2but we want to continue to better it. So he and I have talked about,
21:42Speaker 2do we change the Q and A?
21:44Speaker 2I've had quite a bit of people at this point say, we love the Q and A and like, I like the Q and A too. We can kind of leave that alone. We will bring Nora in sometimes and maybe some of the staff here because now they know peptides. They've been with us for a long time, most of them, and that's partly gay. You gotta learn, you gotta learn peptides. So we'll bring some of the staff on and yet we had a mic on last week.
22:06Speaker 2Also,
22:09Speaker 2you like,
22:10Speaker 2and we really want this feedback. This helps us. Do you like the
22:14Speaker 2guests
22:15Speaker 2more,
22:17Speaker 2or do you like us to go back to, talking about compounds? We're gonna talk about 2 or 3 compounds like we used to do. We haven't done that a lot lately because we've had a lot of guests. The show's growing and, you know, we're able to get some good guests on. We're always going to balance it, but what do you guys want? I'm really curious of that answer. And the answer can be, we want mix of both.
22:38Speaker 2Yeah. So that is
22:41Speaker 2very important to us. The feedback it really is. You help us better the show. You are the listener and you listen for a reason. What do you want?
22:49Speaker 2So good stuff, man. Ready to rock. I'm ready.
22:54Speaker 3All right. Number 1.
22:56Speaker 3Hey guys, love your podcasts. I've been on 4 mg weekly. Let's, we're going to start saying
23:01Speaker 3R only.
23:02Speaker 2Got to say R. We do not want to get this. Yeah. Don't want to get it shut down. We
23:07Speaker 3also,
23:08Speaker 3last thing is we are starting a website just called, it'll be called peptideoftheweek.com
23:14Speaker 3where we will air all these episodes because weird stuff is happening out there with social media and it can't be reliable. So we just want to create another space 3 where you can always
23:24Speaker 3see new
23:26Speaker 21 more thing. Because now that made me think, okay. So a lot of you know, I posted something about the other day about, Josh Holyfield.
23:32Speaker 2What you guys need to know, we all pretty much for the most part, this is a very, this industry is a very, small industry and everybody sticks together. We are really like, you know, Trevor, Jay, Josh, Holyfield. We were really close with these people. You know, it's been a blessing, but like on
23:48Speaker 2school, we're about positivity.
23:50Speaker 2Like it doesn't matter if you have a problem with Doctor. Trevor, if you have a problem with Josh, if you have a problem with us, listen, that's rad. You don't, not everybody's gonna like us, man. I've dealt with that my whole life, but
24:01Speaker 2on school, on our platform,
24:03Speaker 2it's a must that we stay positive. No, no talking crap on, you know, on anybody,
24:10Speaker 2anybody like, listen, keep that sir outside.
24:13Speaker 2Only positive stuff here. Most of you do that, but that's
24:17Speaker 3just how we roll. Thank you for listening to that good stuff. Okay. What did your mother tell you growing up? If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all. Sometimes we agree, but sometimes we don't say it.
24:27Speaker 3All right. Hey guys, love the podcast. I've
24:30Speaker 3been on our 4 mg
24:33Speaker 3weekly for 4 months. Before that I was on Tirz and lost 15 kilograms.
24:39Speaker 3I'm now 65 kg and would love to get closer to 60 kg.
24:43Speaker 3But my main goal is body composition and learning out,
24:47Speaker 3leaning out my midsection for a wedding in January. Previously tried Tesa Ipah for 8 weeks, but had significant water retention and pain.
24:55Speaker 3So I stopped.
24:57Speaker 3My last stack was R 4 mg weekly, Clo, 2 Migs, 5 times a week.
25:04Speaker 3Tessa Ipah, 1 mg, 5 times a week in Kagrelin, inotide, 0.5 of a milligram weekly when hunger returned.
25:11Speaker 3I'm a busy mom, a full time assistant principal, exercise daily, and play sports. I also struggle with low energy and poor sleep quality despite getting 6 to 7 hours. What would you be looking at researching before 1 considering another stack, particularly for body composition and energy recovery
25:29Speaker 3and sleep? I value your input.
25:31Speaker 2Awesome. Full time assistant principal. I've met a few of you in my day,
25:36Speaker 2But, great question. Awesome.
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26:45Speaker 2For years and man, that really is going to affect your whole life. You don't say your age. I wish you did.
26:52Speaker 2That would help quite a bit, but you
26:54Speaker 2gotta get that under control. But before I even get there, let's, let's just, the 1st thing that jumps out at me is hormones.
27:01Speaker 2I would imagine 1st off when's the 1st, when's the last time you got your blood work done? I would love to know your age because that would definitely help answer some of that stuff,
27:09Speaker 2but it sounds to me like your hormones might be off. And that happens to every 1 of us. It just is what it is. Could just be progesterone,
27:18Speaker 2estrogen, testosterone,
27:21Speaker 2working with the right person can get those in line. Just those are going to make you sing. And that'll probably fix your sleep just in itself.
27:29Speaker 2It could be low testosterone and that's not why that's why you're not sleeping. 1st off, get your blood work done, my dear,
27:36Speaker 2and start there. And that will answer, I think, lot of your problems. You know, again, we've said it before, but we're
27:43Speaker 2so prone to like
27:45Speaker 2thinking when we don't feel well, we want to take something,
27:48Speaker 2but sometimes you got to know what you would even need to take and blood work's going to answer that because the hormones, you need that blood work. So get that done and you could even write back in and we can maybe help you with some of that stuff or get somebody that, you know, 1 of these gals, these doctors we've been working with might even help better than us.
28:07Speaker 2Now to fix the problem right now,
28:10Speaker 2I'm going to give you my protocol that has done me wonders.
28:14Speaker 2And again, shout out to the gentleman that, sent this to me. I think he's from Australia, if I remember correctly.
28:20Speaker 2Magnesium, which we all should be taking anyway,
28:22Speaker 2glycine,
28:24Speaker 2ashwagandha,
28:25Speaker 2and,
28:27Speaker 2I do take a little bit of,
28:30Speaker 2slow releasing melatonin,
28:32Speaker 2and that works well for me. And I have slept just so amazingly since I started that protocol.
28:38Speaker 2I like also
28:41Speaker 2the woo woo stuff, which is grounding.
28:44Speaker 2At the end of like, before I get ready for work, I go outside and I take my shoes off and I stare at the sun for literally about 3 minutes. And then I say another prayer
28:53Speaker 2and then I go jump my butt in a cold shower and it's worked well, but, there is something magical about your feet on the grass, your feet on the ground, the connection to
29:04Speaker 2the universe, God, whatever you choose to look at. And then that sun is
29:10Speaker 2energy. It is energy.
29:12Speaker 2So that's the woo side of me. And, I love it. I do that stuff and it works well for me,
29:19Speaker 2but, I'm going to leave it there and see what will has to say, because I think you need to fix your hormones. I think your hormones are off. That's why you're probably really tired and that's an that will probably fix your sleeping problem too. In the meantime, start taking this protocol. Promise you you'll sleep well. Yeah. I think the 1st thing that sticks out to me is like,
29:37Speaker 3you don't have enough fuel.
29:39Speaker 3So you're taking R and kagrelinotide,
29:43Speaker 3okay, whenever you get some extra hunger. Right? So you're probably not eating enough food.
29:48Speaker 3That's what I mean by fuel. You're not eating enough food, and that makes you a person tired and sluggish and not, you know, and fatigued,
29:57Speaker 3which are all the same things.
29:58Speaker 3So I would maybe abandon this. I mean, don't abandon completely, but like put the brakes on the losing the 5 kg and let's
30:07Speaker 3refocus
30:08Speaker 3on, like, food intake and Yeah. I like it. Protein
30:12Speaker 3intake. K?
30:13Speaker 3Believe it or not, and your metabolism is probably really slow because you've been,
30:17Speaker 3know, restricting food
30:19Speaker 3because of the r and kagrelinitide.
30:22Speaker 3So so your
30:23Speaker 3body our metabolism will slow down, and I've said this almost every episode probably. Metabolism will slow down to the amount of calories that we put in our bodies.
30:33Speaker 2That
30:34Speaker 3will make that will that will plateau you. Right? So I would
30:39Speaker 3maybe pull the Cagrilintide and
30:41Speaker 3try just so eat small frequent meals of protein. Make sure you're getting enough protein.
30:46Speaker 3That will not add fat to you. Right? It'll just it'll probably
30:50Speaker 3benefit. It'll add more muscle.
30:52Speaker 3Therefore, metabolism goes up and you start losing weight better and you will get some you know, protein isn't our primary fuel source, but
31:00Speaker 3carbohydrates
31:01Speaker 3are, it's the easiest thing for our body to turn into energy.
31:04Speaker 3Okay? But the problem is that when you eat a carbohydrate, if you don't burn that, if you don't use that carb for energy,
31:11Speaker 3it then goes great. Let's store and it stores on you, converts into fat and stores for energy later.
31:19Speaker 3So
31:20Speaker 3smartly
31:21Speaker 3timed carbs
31:22Speaker 3are fine, right? Like eat some carbs before you workout. Great. You'll have a good workout because you'll use those, you'll use those during
31:29Speaker 3the workout. Eat carbs in the morning. You're gonna be walking around and doing all your thing, you know, using your brain all day long. That burns calories, by the way. Yeah. Just stay away from the carbs at night, but try to get yourself on a on a on a small and
31:43Speaker 3frequent
31:44Speaker 3meal schedule,
31:46Speaker 3which the R will like kind of enforce.
31:49Speaker 3Other than that, the only other, would try something like B12, like look at your vitamins. So again, the fuel source has gone. Therefore, you're probably not getting the right vitamins and nutrients. Right? And it's like an injectable
32:00Speaker 3methylcobalamin,
32:01Speaker 3which is B12 with the methyl added.
32:04Speaker 3Doctor Scott talks about it all the time. That might just give you a lot of energy, but as far as peptides go,
32:11Speaker 3I don't know, SS-thirty 1.
32:14Speaker 3SS-thirty 1 is going to make make your is gonna harness all the energy in your mitochondria, and basically that all converts into ATP, and that's our cellular energy. That's the stuff that makes us yeah. Our muscles really move and faster and stronger, and you have a bit more stamina throughout the day. So I would take a look at that, and I wouldn't do less than 5 Migs a day of SS-thirty 1. NAD as well. NAD,
32:37Speaker 3absolutely. There's some other things to try.
32:40Speaker 3Just be careful of not stack just don't just like throw a whole bunch of stuff on your plate at once. Right? You wanna know what makes the difference.
32:48Speaker 2Yeah. And we
32:49Speaker 2talked about it, but like it's important to touch on this again because again, I was just Disneyland and they do not have a lot of healthy food at Disneyland. And we sat and ate breakfast with our friends and it was an all you can eat place. As you can imagine, most people are going to gorge themselves at those places and it's not the best food. And I had a conversation with a good friend of mine, Justin, who's also a coach, you know, and he knows a lot about nutrition and we were talking through this.
33:13Speaker 2It is so important to use our damn brains when you are out of your element
33:18Speaker 2in a place like that, it's going to be a lot of shit food, And there's gonna be a lot of temptation. So your carbs
33:25Speaker 2eat carbs through like fruit.
33:27Speaker 2Like, you know what I mean? Instead of like bad carbs, just you be smart. And when I say think through stuff, that's thinking through stuff,
33:36Speaker 2eat foods that are, you can eat a lot of that are going to be less calories because you probably want to eat more. So that's just using your brain and
33:44Speaker 2that's if you go somewhere,
33:46Speaker 2but you 2 here again, you gotta be thinking through when to eat, when to eat certain
33:52Speaker 2foods.
33:52Speaker 2And for you ladies, I really think that you need to start your day with about 40 grams of protein. And I am trying to talk my bride into that
34:01Speaker 2because I really think that is important for you ladies, not as much men that can do more 3 fasting and
34:06Speaker 2affects women differently. Hope that helps. Eat before you go to Disneyland. So you don't, you're not starving and then eat all of their bad food. Seriously.
34:15Speaker 2What we did was, you know, we were with all people that were fairly healthy, right? And like, we didn't want to eat that food.
34:21Speaker 2We waited and ate at a steak house and we all sat down at a nice dinner. Like it was about 05:00 and we all ate a good meal. Know what mean? Obviously,
34:31Speaker 2money throws a role in some of that. We were still inside on
34:35Speaker 2this other side. California adventure has some nice restaurants. So we could have ate when we were in Disneyland side, but we waited, right, thinking through it because they just had crap food there. And none of us were going to eat that stuff. And I had a nice steak
34:47Speaker 2that didn't have any
34:50Speaker 3damn eggs or avocado for me, which blew me away. So I just ate the steak. So, drink a lot of water too. The only thing I always noticed is is throughout the day, right, if I'm getting tired and I'm like, damn, let's I'm tired. I must need more coffee. Right? And I drink my 3rd cup of coffee and I go, wow, that did nothing to me. I will if I go just chug a bunch of water,
35:11Speaker 3that will wake me up better than anything. Obviously, more coffee is dehydrating and it just kind of stops working. Like, keep yourself really hydrated. Those of you who've read those like Jack Reacher books, I always remember like they, he always,
35:24Speaker 3Lee Childhood is dead now, but,
35:27Speaker 3would always
35:29Speaker 3say that Jack Reacher, like he's always drinking a whole bunch of water. He thinks that that's the lifeblood of his energy and everything.
35:35Speaker 3It's kind of an interesting thing.
35:37Speaker 2And JD likes saltwater and that's great too. That's even, that's a little bit better. It absorbs. That's what, especially the water, if it's not like a Kagan or whatnot, which we have a gal coming in on Friday. I can't wait to ask her questions,
35:48Speaker 2but you're, you're peeing a lot. Your water's going through you. The salt's going to help you absorb it better. So, you know, all right. So see, Hey guys, love your podcast. I tell all my peptide curious homies to tune in 35
36:01Speaker 2female, formerly obese dropped
36:04Speaker 2125
36:05Speaker 2pounds by changing lifestyle.
36:08Speaker 2Pre pepatide girl.
36:10Speaker 2Seriously,
36:12Speaker 2that is not easy. So you are a badass. I love it.
36:16Speaker 2Live 5 days a week for the past 10 years, constant as fuck
36:21Speaker 2high protein,
36:23Speaker 2diet and check yada yada. I've been on Reddit for almost 3 months, worked up to 2 megs
36:29Speaker 2a week split in 2 doses.
36:31Speaker 2Did SS-thirty 1 for a bit, no side effects from either pep.
36:35Speaker 2Tried NAD,
36:37Speaker 2loved the energy. However, I was in an odd reaction. Thought I was getting arthritis.
36:42Speaker 21st knuckles started hurting my scale shot of 3.5
36:46Speaker 2pounds quickly, despite increasing RET dosage
36:50Speaker 2and had swelling in my legs, stopped NAD.
36:54Speaker 2And that all went well away within 2 to 3 days. What the F ever heard of this reaction? Any insight would be great anecdotal or scientific. Thank you all.
37:04Speaker 3All right. So here's the, I mean, the answer is no, I have never had anyone
37:09Speaker 3tell me that they had these symptoms after doing NAD. And I'm not saying you didn't, you obviously did. So I
37:18Speaker 3think that you're experiencing some type of reaction, like allergic reaction to this and specifically to NAD,
37:24Speaker 3Not like a what we talk about, like a histamine reaction where it's just a foreign substance and so your body creates histamines. Yes, this is also like a histamine it is a histamine reaction, but I think you're actually probably allergic to the NAD. I would not re try
37:41Speaker 3that same bottle of NAD. If you really, really want to try NAD, I would
37:46Speaker 3talk to whoever you got it from and see if maybe you can get a different batch,
37:52Speaker 3get a bottle from a different batch because
37:54Speaker 3this is what you experienced.
37:56Speaker 3And
37:58Speaker 3that's a good test to see if you bought it from a good company.
38:02Speaker 3This is why some companies charge more also
38:05Speaker 3because they're good to their customers.
38:07Speaker 3And,
38:08Speaker 3they should give you another bottle if you really wanna try it, but but
38:12Speaker 3so you might be allergic to something. It was in that. There could have been a contaminant. Who knows? But it could you could just be allergic to the actual entity itself, and therefore, a new batch, a new lot will do nothing, and you'll experience the same reaction. The edema is which is like the swelling in your legs. It is. The 3 pounds is obviously water.
38:29Speaker 3You know, nobody makes nobody adds a fat in
38:32Speaker 3nobody adds 3.5 pounds of fat in 3 days,
38:34Speaker 3and nobody burns it that fast either when they stop. So there was some reaction and you just may not be a good candidate for NAD.
38:44Speaker 3That's all dollar is, but it's up to you if you really, really, really want to try NAD again. I would do what I said previously.
38:51Speaker 2Yeah.
38:52Speaker 2Yeah.
38:53Speaker 2So what we talked about before, I think already is you can replace it with SS-thirty 1, which you did. I think now
39:00Speaker 2let's just be blunt. The amount of dose, the amount that you're going to run of SS-31is
39:05Speaker 2expensive that we think works well and I,
39:08Speaker 2so that depends on pocketbook,
39:11Speaker 2know, and not everybody can afford it. Let's just be honest, it's expensive.
39:14Speaker 2But if you can, you might try it. See if that does well for you.
39:19Speaker 2Think it does. NAD is great. I love NAD. He just answered that. Try what he said. If you can try another batch or another
39:27Speaker 2company or maybe whatever, if it's a good company, they'll replace it. And we'll ask questions.
39:33Speaker 2If it's a bad company, they won't change
39:35Speaker 2companies into them.
39:37Speaker 2In regards to same thing as a gal top,
39:40Speaker 2what's your hormones like you're 35, have you had blood work done?
39:45Speaker 2You're right in that range where you really need to start looking at your hormones. So we want to get the blood work done.
39:52Speaker 2Sometimes just some,
39:54Speaker 2progesterone or something like that can change everything, you know?
39:57Speaker 2And that requires
39:59Speaker 2blood work.
40:00Speaker 2I
40:01Speaker 2would go with the doctor that knows what they're doing. Then the cool thing is there are a lot more coming out. There's a lot of doctors that are starting to see the light step away from the Western medicine and really starting to get back to, I think why they became a doctor, you know? And I love it. It's, you know, Doctor. K on here last week, she was rad. People have loved her. Think that's great. I've been talking to her through DM for quite some time and I knew she was going be great. So here you go. So yeah, I guess your blood work done. In regards to peptides,
40:30Speaker 2here's
40:31Speaker 2a few that you can try. The 5 amino 1MQ goes great with,
40:35Speaker 2goes great with R. It just does. It's gonna really just take,
40:41Speaker 2it's going to choose
40:42Speaker 2your body's going to choose to burn fat
40:45Speaker 2over glucose.
40:47Speaker 2So I think that 5 amino just goes great with R. And my 2 favorites for any gal is going to be AOD and Tesa. So those 2 together seem to do really well. 3
40:58Speaker 2So try that. Hope that helps.
41:01Speaker 3No. All right. Number 3. Hey guys, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and creating the podcast. I listen while I'm driving almost daily. Okay. So I've heard you guys talk about pipette storage, and remember a highlight was to avoid moisture.
41:14Speaker 3Keep them in a cool, dark place, etcetera. I have mine stored in a HydraPeak
41:18Speaker 3canister with silicone inserts, constituted and unconstituted
41:22Speaker 3vials. That sucker is pretty cold, by the way, not freezing. I noticed condensation
41:27Speaker 3on the vials and inside the container. Weird. Thinking if it's in the outside of the vial, it's probably on the inside too. Right? Should I be concerned, and is there a better container you recommend for storing?
41:40Speaker 3That last sentence, no. No, I do not agree.
41:44Speaker 3If it's on the outside of the vial, it does not absolutely no. It's
41:47Speaker 3it does it it doesn't mean that that it's on the inside. That would be weird. Because the
41:53Speaker 3condensation
41:54Speaker 3is from moisture and like that's because that your canister isn't like really
41:59Speaker 3super medically sealed. Right? The bottle should be in a lab
42:05Speaker 3where no contaminants got into it when it was sealed. So you are right.
42:10Speaker 3The con well, there shouldn't we don't want condensation inside of the bottle. See that? That's a
42:15Speaker 3problem if you see that. But my guess is you don't have that. And just because you have a conversation on the outside,
42:21Speaker 3great.
42:22Speaker 3So do I, and all of mine, there's conversation on the outside, not on the inside. So you're good to go.
42:29Speaker 3Well, you should be good to go, just assuming. Dry it about, dry it off, and see if there's condensation on the inside.
42:35Speaker 3Even if there is, what we're worried about is, yes, contamination,
42:41Speaker 3but that contamination
42:43Speaker 3is mostly the biggest worry is that it will degrade your peptide.
42:47Speaker 3There's
42:49Speaker 3always a chance, but a very small chance that it like is
42:54Speaker 3that something actually harmful
42:57Speaker 3got in,
42:59Speaker 3to you, to a human being,
43:01Speaker 3that in enough
43:03Speaker 3volume that it's actually going to affect a human being. It's
43:06Speaker 3easy bacteria can affect that tiny little peptide chain very easily, but a human being, not that easy. So
43:13Speaker 3yeah, did you join the right, you're on the right track and man, there's your answer. Keep doing what you've been doing. 0 Yeah. I just wrote down fridge. That's
43:21Speaker 2where, I mean, so I have, we have kids, you know, in my house and like, we don't, you know,
43:26Speaker 2they're not old. No, they do actually go in the fridge. In my office at my house, I have a nice
43:30Speaker 2sized fridge and we keep all of our peptides there that are out of the kids able to get to it. So that's what works for me. So if you have ability to do that, just keep them in that little fridge, man. It's perfect.
43:41Speaker 2All right.
43:42Speaker 2Europe.
43:44Speaker 2Hey
43:45Speaker 2guys, I'd love some clarification
43:47Speaker 2on the mitochondria reboot approach. This is a good question.
43:51Speaker 2Approach with SS-31MOTS
43:53Speaker 2C and NAD.
43:54Speaker 2I've seen so much conflicting info, so we run
43:58Speaker 2all 3 separately,
43:59Speaker 2skip MOTS-1C altogether or start SS-31add
44:03Speaker 2MOTS-CN then introduce NAD why tapering off SS-31.
44:08Speaker 2Is there actually a benefit of stacking sequencing them in this way? MOTS-1C an important part of the process or can SS-31NAD
44:18Speaker 2accomplish a similar goal? I'd love to hear you guys approach these 3 and the reasoning behind it. Great question comes up all the time to us as well. Go ahead. Yeah. All right. So here's, I'll give you a,
44:30Speaker 3I'll give you a lot of points of views. So 1st of all, what do these things do? So SS-thirty
44:36Speaker 31, there is a around your mitochondria, just think of it like as a cell wall. Okay?
44:42Speaker 3Around that and then and your mitochondria is what is
44:46Speaker 3creating energy for your body. K?
44:49Speaker 3Inside of there, that needs to be creating like, it's a power plant, right, and it needs to create the energy and then go only 1 direction. Go out 1 tube
44:58Speaker 3that filters that energy to the right spot, right, which is our body.
45:02Speaker 3So if you have a big, like, container
45:05Speaker 3that's holding radioactive material
45:07Speaker 3and there's holes all over the place,
45:09Speaker 3it starts leaking out and not all of it goes through that 1 tube that where you need it to go. Okay? SS-thirty
45:16Speaker 31 is basically plugging all of those holes. So it makes sure that your mighty call, that energy your mighty crown deer is creating, it is harnessing that, and it is all sending to the right place. Okay? So
45:29Speaker 3MOTS-3C is basically
45:30Speaker 3giving more energy to the mitochondria. Okay? It's not creating more mitochondria, it's just giving more,
45:36Speaker 3it's revving
45:37Speaker 3that engine in there. Right? NAD
45:40Speaker 3simply NAD does a lot of things, but most let's just say, Hey, it
45:44Speaker 3can
45:45Speaker 3make your cells, not necessarily your mitochondria, right, cells,
45:49Speaker 3replicate
45:50Speaker 3better,
45:51Speaker 3stronger,
45:53Speaker 3make those cells that aren't as good and strong
45:57Speaker 3bit stronger and
45:58Speaker 3make more cells. Okay. So
46:01Speaker 3kind of different things, but
46:03Speaker 3so if that is the picture,
46:06Speaker 3I believe,
46:07Speaker 31st of all, like what's the point of adding a higher rev engine
46:11Speaker 3if you got holes all over the place, right? And it's just gonna leak out anyway. So
46:16Speaker 31st things 1st is the is the SS-thirty
46:19Speaker 31. Right? And if you ask Jay Campbell, he thinks that SS-thirty 1 should be gone done a month
46:26Speaker 3and not at the same time as MOTS-three. Right? SS 31, MOTS-three.
46:31Speaker 3If you ask Doctor. K, she basically says that, look, inherently,
46:35Speaker 3most people of a certain young age, and she didn't give us an exact number, but, you know, probably like 40,
46:44Speaker 3their mitochondria is perfectly fine. Okay? Most people, your mitochondria is perfectly fine. It's only as you get older
46:51Speaker 3is it starts to decline its energy output. And therefore, anybody young doing MOTS-3s probably not gonna feel anything and notice anything because it's not gonna take you from extra,
47:00Speaker 3it may not take you an extra physiologic, super physiological levels. Right? And so there's no point in doing it if you're younger.
47:08Speaker 3The proof is in the pudding on the MOTS-3s, right? If you do it and you go, holy shit, like I feel I have way more energy. Like life's good. That means you probably had some damage to mitochondria and you're, you're, it wasn't creating all the energy that it should have been. We know some people like that. We know people, if I take MOTS-3A, I don't really notice a difference.
47:26Speaker 3I definitely do notice a difference now taking the SS-thirty
47:30Speaker 31. SS-thirty 1,
47:33Speaker 3yeah, it's gonna I think it it also I'm not ready to explain,
47:37Speaker 3other things and how it how that
47:40Speaker 3can I noticed it in the gym,
47:43Speaker 3through just muscle stamina and strength,
47:46Speaker 3not necessarily
47:47Speaker 3all day energy
47:48Speaker 3right now? It's also because I'm not sleeping as many hours as a person should, and that's like the
47:54Speaker 3that is like hands down the biggest detriment. And also still, I think I've like really just completely stopped all my testosterone.
48:01Speaker 3Whereas I weaned it down right into a low point, and now I've literally pulled it off. Total? Mostly just complete for like a month. I
48:09Speaker 3know. Yeah.
48:10Speaker 3And I definitely notice,
48:12Speaker 3I think especially the last like week or so, 2 weeks,
48:16Speaker 2I've been lower energy. No, you've been crying a lot.
48:21Speaker 3He's joking. Okay. So
48:25Speaker 3that's how those things work. And so my suggestion, I don't have a problem. I think that MOTS-331
48:31Speaker 3for sure. Do that 1st. Okay. We gotta solidify the container.
48:36Speaker 3I,
48:37Speaker 3and I would run that, I don't know, hell 2 weeks again, minimum 5 megs a day. I really don't think it's kind of even worthwhile to do any less JD and I are doing like 30 megs a day. Yep.
48:48Speaker 3And so I don't know, a couple of weeks. And then, then I have no problem running MOTS-1s with
48:54Speaker 3it,
48:55Speaker 3just SS-31first.
48:57Speaker 3Okay. Then run your MOTS-1s. You make in, but also think that with SS-31it
49:02Speaker 3is 1 of these things where it's gonna go fill that.
49:05Speaker 3Don't need to keep taking the SS-31it's
49:07Speaker 3like, I would take it for 1 month and cool. If MOTS-1C overlaps that, that's fine.
49:12Speaker 3Maybe quarterly,
49:14Speaker 3quarterly
49:15Speaker 3run SS 31 for a month.
49:17Speaker 3Right?
49:18Speaker 3So run it, solidify that. Then it's going to stay solid until some, you know, more holes get poked in it and then do it again. Yeah.
49:26Speaker 3And NAD shoot, I think NAD can be ran- Anytime. Anytime, all the time, if you want. If you don't, if you're not allergic, like the last person,
49:34Speaker 3you
49:35Speaker 3know, I have no problem with that. NAD
49:38Speaker 3does some amazing things and some amazing reports.
49:43Speaker 3Yeah. That
49:45Speaker 3is my best attempt to set the record straight. I
49:49Speaker 2can't even like add that much to it, except for the fact that we're blessed to be able to hang out with some people that are a hell of a lot smarter than us and know a lot more than us. That part's been a blessing.
49:58Speaker 2You know, I have, I was sitting the other night with Jay Campbell, Trevor Cruder, and Trevor's partners, his name's Doug.
50:06Speaker 2You know, they, they talk deep, deep, deep peptide stuff. I felt definitely out of my league, you know? And I say that being honest and but I am a sponge. I'm asking questions and just soaking this stuff up, and I'm blessed to be able to be pretty good friends with these are blessed
50:21Speaker 2friends with these guys now. I'm like, I ask them all that question.
50:24Speaker 2Every 1 of them
50:26Speaker 2and Josh Holyfield and everybody that comes in and there's always a slightly different opinion.
50:31Speaker 2So I don't think anybody fully, fully, fully knows, but I think we'll just nail that. I think that you're gonna, most people at this point are gonna say start with SS-31.
50:39Speaker 2MOTS-331C side is where people differ a little bit.
50:43Speaker 2But I think he answered it perfectly.
50:46Speaker 2The only thing with SS-31As
50:48Speaker 2we've already mentioned, it's costly to run it
50:52Speaker 2at the amount that is suggested even 5 Migs. And if you can afford more, I would suggest you go up. I really do feel like it's made a really big difference in how I feel.
51:03Speaker 2You don't have to do 30 Migs like us. Obviously, we can kind of get it fairly easily, but
51:08Speaker 2just start with the SS-thirty 1 up to you on the MOTS-1C. I have not decided if I'm going to add MOTS-1C back in. You
51:14Speaker 2know me, if I do, I'll tell you how I feel.
51:19Speaker 2Know, that was perfect. Any run, run it, run it, run it. I love it. That doesn't matter. That doesn't come into this equation in my opinion at all. You should run NAD. Yep. And they're not redundant. They're not all just doing the same thing. That was 1 the main questions.
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52:30Speaker 3At the most, and this was my sweet spot, and now I'm back down to 1 mg. I'm wondering if there's more benefit coming off completely
52:38Speaker 3for 4 weeks or remaining on a low dose before going up again. I would appreciate your thoughts. I'm happy with my level of leanness and have all the foundations in place. I strength train 4 times a week, a cardio the other 3 times a week. I've just started Tessa and after listening to you guys thought about adding AOD with this while on a break from Retta.
52:59Speaker 3Reference, I am 52 kg
53:01Speaker 3and just like being lean all year round. Good for you. Don't we all? Yes.
53:07Speaker 31st off,
53:08Speaker 2the 1st thing that jumped out at me was, think you answered that I'm happy with my level of leanness and have all the foundations in place. I can tell, you know what you're doing.
53:17Speaker 2I'm just even curious why you even need Retta. You know, I think if you took out the Retta and replaced it with like a 5 m 1 MQ, 1 of the things that it really goes well with people coming off Retta or while you're on it, because it's going to take, going to chew your body's going to choose to burn fat rather than glucose.
53:35Speaker 2So it does help with the burning fat. Like it's basically like you're running on keto to a degree, you know, the easiest way to explain it. And
53:43Speaker 2so we've,
53:44Speaker 2I've just talked with a lot of people that do well with coming off Retta and running 5MA and 1MQ, and it's a freaking amazing compound. It just is.
53:52Speaker 2You don't sound like a gal that really needs Retta to me.
53:56Speaker 2Again,
53:58Speaker 2we don't want to run things in perpetuity
54:00Speaker 2again, except for HGH and TRT for the most part for men.
54:05Speaker 2And then you can kind of toy around with different things and stuff. I mean, again, if you need Retta,
54:10Speaker 2then add it back in. My opinion would be, yeah, sure. Come off it. Then try some different compounds. You sound like a disciplined human.
54:18Speaker 2If it's, you know, like
54:21Speaker 2keeping your weight in check, I mean, that's diet anyway. I mean, if you're, you're disciplined,
54:26Speaker 2you're not gonna have a problem with that and try some, some other fat burner stuff like 5 Amino, SLU-1MQ,
54:32Speaker 2you know, AOD. Those are dope. Those are awesome. I would, I would include those.
54:40Speaker 3Yeah.
54:41Speaker 3I think that's great. I just don't mean, I agree.
54:44Speaker 3If you, I mean, the here's the goal is to take the least effective dose. And if the least effective dose is 0, then great.
54:53Speaker 3You might,
54:54Speaker 3you know, but if, if,
54:56Speaker 3if you just can't not
54:59Speaker 3eat and gain weight at 0,
55:02Speaker 3then yeah, you should stay at your 1 and the 1 mg maintenance dose makes all the difference in the world. Then I'd stay at the 1 mg maintenance dose.
55:11Speaker 3I
55:12Speaker 3don't think that, like, a 4 week reset
55:15Speaker 3down to 1 mg
55:16Speaker 3is doing much of a reset. I also don't think a form 4 week reset at 0 is doing much of a reset.
55:24Speaker 3I I think it's negligible either way, but I'm also not mad at you for staying on a 1 mg maintenance dose. Like, I know tons of people who do and honestly,
55:32Speaker 3just for like the brain,
55:34Speaker 3like the neuro protection
55:35Speaker 3and your brain staying sharp
55:38Speaker 3throughout the day, right, because it's
55:40Speaker 3pushing energy to your brain. So
55:43Speaker 3I don't think that really makes a difference much.
55:46Speaker 3K? And I because I don't think that 2 2.5 Migs are just gonna work, like, so much better if you're off for 4 weeks versus being on 1 Mig 4 weeks. Yeah. But,
55:56Speaker 3yeah, it's like and JD, like, the goal is to take nothing. It sounds like you are, and the goal is to build, you know, with with these stuff, with the GLP ones. Hopefully,
56:04Speaker 3the goal is to kinda shrink a person's stomach,
56:07Speaker 3but also learn these good life and eating habits
56:11Speaker 3and be on it long enough where you got those habits down and then very slowly pull it out and maintain your habits of discipline
56:17Speaker 3and you might just find you don't
56:20Speaker 3need it at all.
56:22Speaker 3That would be the ultimate goal. Everybody has like a different experience
56:26Speaker 2with everything.
56:27Speaker 2What I mean by that is I've
56:30Speaker 2shared this before, but if you haven't heard this part, read a what I liked about it, it's an amazing compound for me. It took me out of my discipline. Like I knew I could cheat a little bit. And then when I, you start cheating a little bit, you just start, dude, dude, dude, dude, here's my discipline. Like, as well, like I was like, damn dude, like, I'm just man, I'm super disciplined and it really started to affect me. I, I had to pull it because like, I was like, dude, listen, it's jacked up my discipline. And I'd like to be disciplined because it's just, that's where I like to sit. So maybe you're like that. Sound disciplined. So maybe
57:04Speaker 2try that. And
57:06Speaker 3like the, Hey, the AOD are gonna be like, great. Yes. Yes. I would try AOD.
57:10Speaker 3If you're going to come off
57:12Speaker 3R then cool. I do. I totally believe in trend like
57:16Speaker 3come off some peptides, right, and then replace with something else. Yeah.
57:20Speaker 3So AOD is a great 1. Like, Tesofensine's
57:23Speaker 3maybe 1 you wanna think about. That helps with,
57:26Speaker 3with the food noise,
57:28Speaker 3and so does the,
57:29Speaker 3so does kegrelinatide
57:31Speaker 3that was mentioned before.
57:33Speaker 3Right? That is just
57:34Speaker 3to help with food noise. So those could be potential replacements if you need them, but I guess but that's contrary to the argument that we were just talking about, about discipline and not taking something
57:47Speaker 3and needing it.
57:49Speaker 3Up to you though. I'm not mad at you either way. Like I totally get it. Not everybody's different. Everybody's different, different places in your life. It sounds like you're on your shit, so you're a good candidate to
57:58Speaker 2to try it on your own. Right? Yeah. Yeah. That's a good question for you anyway. I'm 33, five'eleven, 175 pounds. Highest was 2 80.
58:06Speaker 2Wow. That's a big difference.
58:08Speaker 2Engaged and getting married in November. Congratulations.
58:11Speaker 2My fiance and I are actively trying for a 1st child as well. Recent
58:15Speaker 2labs came back with a total T of 4 20, free T of 65,
58:20Speaker 2which is not bad, and SHBG
58:23Speaker 2of 27, but of course I want more. Currently running
58:26Speaker 2R
58:27Speaker 25 Amino and adding AOD-nine 604 to my stack soon for more fat burning. I already know TRT is the best way to go for prime optimization,
58:38Speaker 2but while I'm actively trying for a child, be wiser to go with Enclomiphene,
58:42Speaker 2Kisspeptin-ten
58:43Speaker 2or HCG
58:45Speaker 2route. Beyonce also just started Kisspeptin-ten
58:48Speaker 2at 100 micrograms and says she feels her ovaries moving. So I hope that's a good sign. Love the content. Keep up the good work. All
58:57Speaker 3right. That
58:58Speaker 3last sentence, I have no idea what that means. And so I would talk to a doctor about her feeling her ovaries moving.
59:07Speaker 3Yeah, I can't, I can't speak to that. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing or like what that feels like or whatever,
59:14Speaker 3but you're, yeah, you're a 100% right. You should.
59:18Speaker 3So you should,
59:20Speaker 3best scenario to make you as fertile as possible is to pull the tier, the test completely. I don't think he's on test.
59:29Speaker 3Well, then don't pull it. Just don't do it. Because he did say TRT is the best way to go prime optimization.
59:34Speaker 3Yes. That is true. To feel the best, look the best, but definitely not to be the most fertile.
59:39Speaker 3So if you're on test, you know and I know, but again, we I have 10 friends. JD's a a 2 time winner on this example of
59:49Speaker 3being on a low dose of TRT and still getting
59:53Speaker 3the your wife pregnant. So it's possible, but it's a better chance
59:57Speaker 3to not be on test and
1:00:00Speaker 3be more fertile. Doctor. Kiss said 3 months. She said that once you pull the test, it's going going to take 3 months,
1:00:08Speaker 3for you your natural testes to kick on and start making good fertile sperm again.
1:00:14Speaker 3And even with the help of Enclomiphene
1:00:17Speaker 3and HCG. So absolutely do Enclomiphene,
1:00:21Speaker 3do HCG.
1:00:22Speaker 3I told her I was doing like a 1500 IUs 3 times a week. She, her, her, her response to that was maybe you should do less only because
1:00:32Speaker 3that might be too high of a dose and it might be kicking up your estrogen.
1:00:36Speaker 3But those people like me, I don't really have an estrogen.
1:00:40Speaker 3I mean, I get estrogen symptoms.
1:00:42Speaker 3Cool. When I ask for them, like when I do it, like a lot of tests, hell yeah, like everybody else, but I don't get estrogen, you know,
1:00:49Speaker 3abnormally bad. And so I haven't, I have had 0 estrogen symptoms at my 1,500.
1:00:55Speaker 3I use 3 times a week, but some people might. And so that's something to watch for.
1:01:00Speaker 3Also told me to, I think it said like 12.5 mg of Enclomiphene. Usually they come in 12.5 mg tabs.
1:01:07Speaker 3I was,
1:01:08Speaker 3yeah, I was doing 25 mg a day. And
1:01:12Speaker 3so, cool. I'm gonna try 12.5 and the same thing, same reason and reasoning behind that.
1:01:18Speaker 3Cause you can't have a high estrogen
1:01:20Speaker 3also and
1:01:22Speaker 3keep yourself prime fertile. Kisspeptin
1:01:24Speaker 310 is interesting. It's like
1:01:28Speaker 3worthless
1:01:28Speaker 3while you're on testosterone,
1:01:31Speaker 3okay, because it works way upstream in your pituitary.
1:01:34Speaker 3And if you're up on tests, theoretically, pituitary is just not listening.
1:01:39Speaker 3Okay? It will not turn on
1:01:42Speaker 3to any stimulus because it thinks it has enough tests.
1:01:45Speaker 3But Kisspeptin's working way upstream on your brain 1st to tell your body, Hey, let's go make my
1:01:51Speaker 3luteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone, which is
1:01:55Speaker 3testicles and AKA also your ovaries, same thing.
1:02:00Speaker 3Cool. If you're not taking tests, yeah, I'd run them all. The 1 thing about money research that on the Kisspeptin-ten is like they use Kisspeptin-ten
1:02:08Speaker 3for
1:02:09Speaker 3anti fertility treatments. So they give people high doses
1:02:13Speaker 3of Kisspeptin-ten
1:02:15Speaker 3to kill their fertility.
1:02:17Speaker 3So more is not better in this case. You actually want it to be somewhere around that hundred microgram 3 times a week. K? Yeah. So at low doses, cool, it's gonna help. At high doses, it's going to hinder you.
1:02:30Speaker 3So
1:02:31Speaker 3I would do all those. I've also taken HMG,
1:02:34Speaker 3which is like a, again, 1 of these, like, really expensive
1:02:38Speaker 3last chance. Usually doctors will say, Hey, try HCG and clomiphene 1st.
1:02:43Speaker 3If you're not getting any luck in like 6 months, then we can start adding an HMG at like 75
1:02:49Speaker 3IUs,
1:02:50Speaker 3which is 1 full bottle,
1:02:52Speaker 3like 3 times a week. So
1:02:55Speaker 3I just happen to know a guy. So I get it, get him and I can, I can do that?
1:03:02Speaker 3Last resorted,
1:03:03Speaker 3but do those 3.
1:03:05Speaker 3It's the best answer I got.
1:03:07Speaker 3You know, your test at 4 20 is not high. It's not
1:03:11Speaker 3mid.
1:03:12Speaker 3It's a little like low medium, I suppose.
1:03:16Speaker 3Free test is high. So that's great. And that's what really matters. Yeah. You know,
1:03:21Speaker 3if you're somehow converting your SHBG
1:03:23Speaker 3months, that 27, I don't know,
1:03:27Speaker 3but something's allowing that free test to go to work.
1:03:30Speaker 3He's 33.
1:03:31Speaker 2Yeah. Cool. So you're good age.
1:03:34Speaker 3Yeah. You're a good age. You should, you should,
1:03:37Speaker 3you should be able to get her pregnant soon.
1:03:40Speaker 2Yeah. Good luck. Standard
1:03:42Speaker 2lift weights,
1:03:43Speaker 3lift weights to rough sleep, lifting weights and lifting heavy weights.
1:03:48Speaker 2Do less cardio. 0 Yeah. Just get just, you know, like weight training is always a good thing for everybody, dude. That's what's going to keep you younger.
1:03:57Speaker 2But yeah, you didn't, I, you don't aren't taking TRT,
1:04:01Speaker 2which even at 33 man, that's pushing it. I mean, at 4 20,
1:04:05Speaker 2you're, you're, you're, you're free is good.
1:04:07Speaker 2Know, I like to keep mine around roughly 45 to 50 because that's where I feel the best. Doesn't mean that you're, you're me,
1:04:13Speaker 2but you're cruising man. You know, Enclomiphene is great because, you know, there are actual clinical trials that have shown that it's going to raise testosterone
1:04:21Speaker 2and, you know, keep, preserve your sperm count. So I think alone,
1:04:26Speaker 2that 1 should do it. I don't know how long you've been trying,
1:04:31Speaker 2but I have no doubt in my mind, unless your bride might have some issues. You'll you'll get a pregnant man. If you go in school, I have like diagrams
1:04:38Speaker 3and details
1:04:40Speaker 3of how all of the fertility drugs work person's body. Like all of the pathways of just like, yeah, he goes from here to there, to there, to there, and what they should do and dosage
1:04:50Speaker 3and dosages and sourcing. So if you want to go join the school and really
1:04:54Speaker 3get an in-depth knowledge,
1:04:56Speaker 3do that. Thank you. Yeah.
1:04:59Speaker 3Okay.
1:05:01Speaker 3I'm next, I guess. So question 7, I was listening to the JRE
1:05:05Speaker 3show and I heard David Sinclair talk about how our can cause an eye stroke, which causes blindness in 1 eye. So like any good researcher, I research myself.
1:05:17Speaker 3And I find that 1 in every 10000 people have this issue with GLP-1s.
1:05:22Speaker 3Is there any data
1:05:24Speaker 3on what other factors might cause this issue? For example, I remember research on Cardrian said it would cause cancer in mice, but it was a huge dose compared to the typical human dose.
1:05:33Speaker 3Right? It was, it was 80. They gave a poor mouse 80 times the human dose,
1:05:38Speaker 3which is crazy. Course. That's what people talked about forever too. Also, is there a place to find these studies?
1:05:46Speaker 3Honestly, that is scary. 1 in 10000,
1:05:51Speaker 3which isn't great odds for something as serious and complete vision loss. Thank you for all your support and provided us. Okay. So I did some research also
1:05:59Speaker 3in answering this and I might, I dislike it in podcasts when people just
1:06:04Speaker 3read the research,
1:06:05Speaker 3but some of this stuff I'm going to have to, I'm going to read a little bit.
1:06:09Speaker 3It's not long,
1:06:11Speaker 3but the 1 in 10000 is a
1:06:14Speaker 3vast overstatement and it is not a, not true.
1:06:18Speaker 3There's a EMA,
1:06:19Speaker 3like a so there's an acronym EMA,
1:06:22Speaker 3mid to means may affect up to 1 in 10000. Right? This is like a general label that that researchers put on some things,
1:06:29Speaker 3but
1:06:31Speaker 3it's not the conclusive data just definitely doesn't show 1 in 10000.
1:06:36Speaker 3And also the
1:06:38Speaker 3classified NAION,
1:06:40Speaker 3okay, is this actual condition. It's a very rare adverse effect of semaglutide
1:06:45Speaker 3specifically,
1:06:46Speaker 3not of R,
1:06:48Speaker 3and not of every GLP-one based drugs and
1:06:51Speaker 3not a proven exact frequency of 1 person in 1 in 10000.
1:06:57Speaker 3So some other things to look for that you can basically, I mean, there's other things that are going on. So basically
1:07:03Speaker 3it's not Not eating. Are. Right. There are some things that so known susceptibility
1:07:08Speaker 3factors include
1:07:10Speaker 3small crowded optic disc, which you can go to your eye doctor and see if you have that.
1:07:15Speaker 3That's 1 of the leading, like, characteristics of somebody who might be prone to this. So if you're worried, do that, and that will probably rule you out. Prior NAION
1:07:25Speaker 3on the other eye, diabetes, hyper oh, that was sorry. From the prior sentence, previous sentence. Diabetes,
1:07:31Speaker 3hypertension,
1:07:32Speaker 3high cholesterol,
1:07:33Speaker 3smoking,
1:07:34Speaker 3and sleep apnea.
1:07:38Speaker 3There you go. Which literally is like the beginning of like, those are risks and, dude, like every condition that we ever talk about. Literally. Okay. So
1:07:47Speaker 3you
1:07:47Speaker 3go to your eye doctor and make sure you don't have this small or crowded optic disc,
1:07:53Speaker 3and then you are healthy and don't have those other things.
1:07:58Speaker 3You're probably not going to end. You don't take Semaglutide,
1:08:00Speaker 3then you're guaranteed not to have it. So
1:08:03Speaker 2It's funny how we
1:08:05Speaker 2all read, we can like look at a picture and 1 person likes it, 1 person doesn't. 1 person likes tomatoes, 1 person hates it. That's so cool about life. When I read this, I wrote down Doritos. What I mean by that is like, I'd be more worried about Doritos, bro, than being worried about the r and what you're worried about because I'm like, my brain goes,
1:08:23Speaker 21 in 10,000? Yeah. Probably won't be me. Probably won't be me. So my brain goes, I wouldn't even be worried about that. But if you are worried about it because you're not me,
1:08:33Speaker 2then don't do it.
1:08:34Speaker 2You know what I mean? I mean, if you're somebody that's, you know, like your risk tolerance is a lot different than mine, I mean, I used to do heroin, so like, let's jump. Yeah. I think we'll make it. So
1:08:44Speaker 2my wrist tolerance is very different.
1:08:46Speaker 2But if you're not that, which just sounds like it, then don't do it, man. Like, if you're gonna trip on it while you're taking it and like, then you start tripping because you're looking
1:08:54Speaker 2weird, you know, like just don't even do it, dude. But we'll already answered it. The chances that 1, I don't think that's accurate. 2,
1:09:02Speaker 2like I said, I would prefer you not eat Doritos rather than take an R. Yeah. And frankly, yeah,
1:09:08Speaker 3Doritos is literally
1:09:11Speaker 3code word for hypertension,
1:09:13Speaker 3high cholesterol, smoking, and sleep apnea. Diabetes.
1:09:18Speaker 3The other question that you asked is where can you find actual research? So PubMed,
1:09:23Speaker 3go to PubMed. That is where
1:09:26Speaker 3real
1:09:27Speaker 3actual research is.
1:09:29Speaker 3Right. And you know, Hey, like, look dude, again, I'm not, I don't have all the answers. What I just said is what I got from my,
1:09:37Speaker 3you know, hour or so of research. I'm not saying that I've written a book on this and know everything.
1:09:43Speaker 3That's
1:09:45Speaker 3what I got, but did go to PubMed to find reliable,
1:09:49Speaker 3reliable research and then read through the lines. You know, don't read headlines for sure of research studies because
1:09:55Speaker 3there's all types of different parameters in every study that, you know, and who's it sponsored by that can just you can take the same exact data and spin it however way you want it, whatever interest your group wants to
1:10:08Speaker 3make it appeal to them or in their favor, that's easy.
1:10:12Speaker 3So yeah, we've been in the lines Came out.
1:10:16Speaker 2We've all heard it. I heard your hair falls out. I heard it like your teeth fall out and all that stuff. And it's like, listen,
1:10:22Speaker 2like if you don't eat, it's malnutrition.
1:10:26Speaker 2And if you don't eat, you don't get any nutrients. Yeah, your hair will fall out.
1:10:30Speaker 2You know what I mean? Like, I've used this before, but like, have you ever seen a tweaker? Like they don't look right because they don't eat. You what know I mean? And they don't sleep.
1:10:39Speaker 2Yeah,
1:10:40Speaker 2maybe we can blame the Semaglutide because they weren't eating because of it. So I guess you can kind of, but like, don't eat it then don't take it. If you're not eating, you need to eat. We're supposed to eat. So,
1:10:51Speaker 2You know what mean? For sure.
1:10:53Speaker 2Are up.
1:10:55Speaker 2Good day. Just want to say how much I love your podcast. Thank you. I'm 53 and recently post menopausal.
1:11:02Speaker 2I started Mounjaro in November 2005 and have lost 13 kilogram, which is about 29 pounds. Thank you for that. That was awesome. Joaquin ones led me into peptides as they do. And I've since used BPC-one hundred 57 GHK-3Mgs
1:11:18Speaker 2Monday, Wednesday, Friday for 11 weeks,
1:11:21Speaker 2NAD plus 25 Migs Monday, Wednesday, Friday for 6 weeks in Selank,
1:11:26Speaker 2500 micrograms daily for 3 weeks. I'm currently dealing with an ulcerative
1:11:30Speaker 2pro
1:11:32Speaker 2proctitis
1:11:35Speaker 2flare and have just finished an 8 day course of steroids and antibiotics.
1:11:40Speaker 2So I've paused all peptides while I recover. Once well, I'm considering starting Mounjaro and 2.5 mg and gradually returning to 5 mg followed by Epitalon,
1:11:52Speaker 210 days at 1 mg a day, and then 8 weeks protocol of SS-thirty 1
1:11:58Speaker 2to MOTS-1C and NAD.
1:12:00Speaker 2I love your thoughts from
1:12:02Speaker 2just say her name, from R-19.0
1:12:05Speaker 2R-3x9 and the kangaroos. You've awesome. You guys love this podcast. I love it. I have to come out to the, we're gonna have to make 1 day a trip to Australia.
1:12:13Speaker 2Do podcasts there. That'd be dope. So
1:12:16Speaker 3it like, I think pausing the other peptides is probably a good idea.
1:12:21Speaker 3Of.
1:12:23Speaker 3It at least isolates
1:12:24Speaker 3your recovery. Right?
1:12:26Speaker 3It sounds like you had,
1:12:29Speaker 3you had this diagnosed
1:12:31Speaker 3and for sure, because that happens, right? What, what this, this
1:12:35Speaker 3is a actual condition, right? This is like leaky gut and that happens.
1:12:41Speaker 3This, that is what it is. And so you had a doctor,
1:12:45Speaker 3yeah, look at it, diagnose it, and it is what it is. I
1:12:49Speaker 3would go back to that doctor and just make sure that there is no infection
1:12:54Speaker 3and that the leaky gut is actually sealed.
1:12:58Speaker 3If it's not sealing and the doctor can't help you, that's when we start adding in, like, oral KPV and oral BPC.
1:13:06Speaker 3Or you can try that on your beforehand, but you already went to the doctor, and it seems like this doctor might have been help helpful. But, that's what oral KPV and oral BPC are for.
1:13:17Speaker 3The then there's no Mounjaro. Right? There's no really there's no evidence at all that says it will worsen
1:13:24Speaker 3IBD or or leaky gut at all.
1:13:27Speaker 3It can cause you to eat less and there's
1:13:30Speaker 3dehydration
1:13:31Speaker 3and nausea
1:13:33Speaker 3and not enough nutrients that can be caused by that can be an effect of that, but not
1:13:40Speaker 3the actual, like leaky gut
1:13:43Speaker 3that you have.
1:13:46Speaker 3I don't know. I think that, I don't know. What was the exact question here? Oh, you have 1 thing I wanted to point out. Like, good, great. I would say once you are cleared of infection and this is done, then great. Get started. Everything you just said, not worried about
1:14:00Speaker 3causing that
1:14:01Speaker 3that gut issue.
1:14:03Speaker 3You did say Epitalon 1 mg
1:14:05Speaker 3daily for 10 days. Yes,
1:14:07Speaker 3you did. I would say 10 mg daily for 10 days.
1:14:12Speaker 3Okay.
1:14:13Speaker 3Well, maybe you got that lost in translation, but yeah.
1:14:18Speaker 3No, no. Everything- Oh
1:14:19Speaker 2Or
1:14:20Speaker 35 for 20. But basically the goal is like 100 mg
1:14:24Speaker 3twice a year. Yeah.
1:14:27Speaker 3Of Epitalon.
1:14:28Speaker 310 mg, I don't think it's gonna do much
1:14:31Speaker 2because like the hundred. I thought that was smart. Yeah. Absolutely. Think it sounds great.
1:14:36Speaker 2Yeah.
1:14:37Speaker 2I mean, here's the thing. We take steroids and we take antibiotics and we've all done it. Unfortunately they really just
1:14:46Speaker 2Jack our stomach up. You know, I think a lot of the problems as humans that we run into are because of those, you know, and that's what doctors know to prescribe and that is what it is.
1:14:58Speaker 2But there's a lot of chain reactions that come to that stuff. So, I mean, I'm going to answer a little bit differently because I think that you need to go right into the KPV and the oral BPC pills. I think that you should be starting to run those.
1:15:08Speaker 2I'd ran it. I'd throw in a TA-one Thymosin Alpha-one,
1:15:12Speaker 2because that's going to really help to abuse your immune system. Antibiotics
1:15:16Speaker 2are going to really just
1:15:18Speaker 2not do good for your immune system. So I think the TA-one
1:15:22Speaker 2with
1:15:23Speaker 2injection KPV,
1:15:26Speaker 2BPC, and then the orals too. Right? Let's blast this stuff.
1:15:31Speaker 2You know, again, always just use my experience with life. I've had gut problems and I feel knock on wood and jinx myself that they're feeling a lot better than they were. Now I will tell you that I have been on a protocol from Doctor. Scott for a while, but I have been taking the KPV and the BPC
1:15:47Speaker 2for a long time too. I have no doubt in my mind, those have been helping because
1:15:52Speaker 2I've had leaky gut forever. You know, I have yeast and like, what do I have SIBO and all those crap? Whatever
1:15:59Speaker 3you got from Jack in the Box.
1:16:02Speaker 3Not you, but like
1:16:05Speaker 3that too, but what did, whatever the outbreak was that it was in bad meat. Yeah. What the hell it's going to bug you with a C Salmon. No, no, no. It starts with the C. It was like killing people. They found that in your gut. Yeah. So anyways, my goat was Jack's, but
1:16:19Speaker 2so do that, try that. And yeah, I don't think they need any new weight necessarily. I think those,
1:16:24Speaker 2the orals will do you good because of the antibiotics,
1:16:27Speaker 2but run
1:16:29Speaker 2them. I hope you feel great. I love to have the talent. I thought that was smart.
1:16:33Speaker 3So good job gal. That was great. I guess, let me walk back. I'm
1:16:38Speaker 3worried about, I guess I just, worry about infection, right? Leaky guy, like that's toxic stuff making your septic and you need to know about that. So
1:16:46Speaker 3get tested for it. Don't just blast it with antibiotics,
1:16:50Speaker 3but I have no problem. I mean, I guess I have no problem. I would personally take the oral BPC and KPV immediately.
1:16:59Speaker 2And 2, but I know we keep going, but like, that's why we do this.
1:17:03Speaker 2It's definitely different for women, but like, let's throw some fasting in there. Fasting will reboot your gut. And when you get to about a 16 hour,
1:17:12Speaker 2you start the autophagy stage.
1:17:15Speaker 2It really starts to shine around 20 hours.
1:17:18Speaker 2But
1:17:20Speaker 2I
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1:18:30Speaker 2Point. So maybe try that.
1:18:32Speaker 3Alright. Question 9. 45 year old mom of 6. 0. Poor woman.
1:18:37Speaker 3Endurance runner, 60 to 70 miles a week with threshold.
1:18:41Speaker 3VO with threshold.
1:18:43Speaker 3VO 2 max and long run weekly.
1:18:46Speaker 3Lift 4 times a week, 5 foot 412
1:18:50Speaker 3to 114
1:18:51Speaker 3pounds and at 12% body fat.
1:18:54Speaker 3Week 6 of our 1 MIG a week and glow at 15
1:18:59Speaker 3MIGs
1:19:00Speaker 33 times a week. Let's check that Mig. It's probably not milligrams.
1:19:05Speaker 3Thoughts on adding IGF
1:19:07Speaker 31? I mean, plus how could you glow is 3 things? So how do you know? Anyway,
1:19:12Speaker 3thoughts on adding IGF
1:19:13Speaker 31? I prefer a lean small frame as I always have been running performance feels best at this size growing a stupid amount of humans
1:19:22Speaker 3left me with more loose skin. I prefer
1:19:26Speaker 3not excessive,
1:19:29Speaker 3but not excessive. 125
1:19:31Speaker 3was my max prego weight. I believe slight muscle gain, not fat loss, can increase the definition and fullness through my lower back, abdomen, and ass filling out that skin question mark. Anything I have considered? GH peptides make me way too bloaty at invisible doses. Okay. So not worth it for me. Mahalo for all your knowledge. I learned so much from you. Yeah. We got a Hawaii gal. Love it. Wonder what island she lives on. I
1:19:57Speaker 2was curious
1:20:00Speaker 2to,
1:20:01Speaker 2sound like you're tiny.
1:20:03Speaker 3125
1:20:04Speaker 2max pregnancy. Right. So like that's tiny. So 5, 4, 112, that seems
1:20:11Speaker 2pretty tiny to me. Was kind of curious where I don't think you need Retta. 12% body fat. Tiny
1:20:19Speaker 2for a woman, right? Yeah. So like, I wouldn't give my wife Retta at all. Like, I'm not, that's like Alyssa. It does like Alyssa. That's what I was Maybe even leaner. So like, I wouldn't even do that. Like you, what I you're a runner. So I would throw in SLU-3.332
1:20:34Speaker 2because it's going to be great for endurance. And
1:20:36Speaker 2you can, you don't need the red. I think that are that you're gonna, I think you're gonna get a lot from that. Now you said that you don't do well on growth hormones,
1:20:46Speaker 2peptides, but have you tried HGH or 45? Maybe 1 IU. I mean, you really need low dose for a gal. Well, I mean, every other day or 5 days on 2 days off. Yeah. It's gonna help you recover. You're going to sleep well. I mean, it takes a little while for it to hit you, but you will start sleeping well, I think right away. And I would try that rather than the Tessa Ipah because if you feel like you're getting waterway,
1:21:10Speaker 2you're really lean. So you notice when there's a little bit of waterway, right? So,
1:21:15Speaker 2either bring the Tessa Ipah down
1:21:18Speaker 2or go, which, which we prefer more here at over 40 for men and women is just small dose of HGH.
1:21:25Speaker 2I think you would rock on just the SLU-3s,
1:21:28Speaker 2the HGH and
1:21:30Speaker 2make sure you're eating a ton of protein because you're running. Yeah. Yeah. So
1:21:35Speaker 3I would agree in some of that, but, but yeah, so at 12%, so men, they generally say like, here's the healthy,
1:21:43Speaker 3healthy men is like something like between 12 and 15, but the truth is really
1:21:47Speaker 3somewhere between like 812%
1:21:52Speaker 3women.
1:21:54Speaker 3I believe that it's like 18 to 21%
1:21:58Speaker 3is what a normal average healthy woman is. And I could, you know, lower that a little bit, maybe like 17, but like under 15%,
1:22:07Speaker 3you know, you theoretically, you stop ovulating because God says you have, don't have enough fat to support another child. Now she might be saying, she might say
1:22:16Speaker 3bullshit. I had 6 of them when I was this lean, but like, cool. I'm just saying what the,
1:22:21Speaker 3what the generalized numbers are now.
1:22:24Speaker 3Yeah, for sure. Okay. So I agree with the sleep. 1st thing that came to mind,
1:22:29Speaker 3You're a but basically, the body doctor said is you're right. You do not need to burn any more fat.
1:22:35Speaker 3Adding muscle will be everything that you want it to be. Like, that needs to be your primary goal, which is why you were asking about IGF-one.
1:22:44Speaker 3I don't I just don't know. I I I don't know. I guess I don't I don't have a good feeling about the IGF-one for you right now. Think I totally agreed on the HGH.
1:22:55Speaker 3Go low dose so you don't get
1:22:57Speaker 3any 5 bloating. I know you said you did the GH peptides at invisible doses and still got bloating, but
1:23:05Speaker 3I would definitely try SLU-3two There's like 1000 micrograms,
1:23:08Speaker 3which is 1 mg or there's mega SLU-3two with 100 mg.
1:23:12Speaker 3And we know plenty of women who take that.
1:23:15Speaker 3You might be a good candidate. The 1st thing that pokes out at me though is I would stop running.
1:23:20Speaker 3And I know that you're gonna be, well, I I I get it. Like, that's what makes me happy, but you also lift, like, find something else that is lifting related
1:23:30Speaker 3that stimulates you like running does.
1:23:33Speaker 3Try like really heavy lifting. Yeah.
1:23:37Speaker 3Because you're running, you're never going to, as a woman and at 54
1:23:42Speaker 3running that dang much, sorry, you're just never,
1:23:46Speaker 3you're never gonna add much muscle. You're just burning it all off. Yeah. It is what it is. So I don't even I do have 1 try not even strong enough. Like you would need to do something like testosterone and shit testosterone might be the answer. Is. Low goes testosterone might be your best,
1:24:02Speaker 3your best go to your, oh, I guess I thought you're, yeah, you're 45. Okay. Had 54,
1:24:08Speaker 3but,
1:24:09Speaker 3but still,
1:24:10Speaker 3I still don't change my answer based on that age. 60, 70 miles a week running man. That's, there's no way you can drive that far. Like no fucking wonder. Right?
1:24:21Speaker 3So yeah, I would find something you could do, jump off cliffs or something, or like lift really heavy and,
1:24:28Speaker 3do HIIT training, but max 30 minutes, right? The thing about HIIT training is so you go and you stop at 30 minutes, so then your body doesn't start eating into your muscle and burning that off for fuel.
1:24:40Speaker 3And I know the goal isn't fat burning, but you could stand to
1:24:45Speaker 3not burn so many calories and eat, eat, eat, eat protein,
1:24:50Speaker 2protein, protein, protein. Yeah. That's all I got for you. Last question. All right. I'm 43, 6, 2 90 pounds down 2 15 since starting R.
1:25:01Speaker 2I lift regularly, get blood work every 6 months. And my total T has been around 4 20 to 4 65.
1:25:07Speaker 2So lower energy. I'm considering TRT
1:25:10Speaker 2right now on R 3 Migs a week,
1:25:14Speaker 2Kolo with a K-4Migs
1:25:17Speaker 2Monday through Friday, and Tessa, 1 Mig Monday through Friday,
1:25:21Speaker 2got into peptides 5 or 6 months ago and quickly went from 1 goal to wanting to optimize body comp, energy, recovery, hormones, and longevity. We know how that works. I've heard Trevor Cruder and Jay Campbell on your show talk about planning their protocols
1:25:36Speaker 2for the entire year. How do you guys actually build a smart annual plan without making it a full time job? And how do you know what to truly belongs in the plans versus hearing about something new and thinking, well, I guess I need that too. That was a great question.
1:25:51Speaker 3That is a good question. My 1st question though, is this is the 3rd time that somebody said it, JD, what do you think when somebody says I'm doing CLO 5 mg or
1:26:02Speaker 3glow 15 mg? What does that mean? Because
1:26:06Speaker 3CLO
1:26:07Speaker 3is,
1:26:08Speaker 3is
1:26:10Speaker 310 mg usually. So 10 mg of BPC,
1:26:14Speaker 310 megs of TB-five hundred, Thymosin beta 4 10 KPV
1:26:19Speaker 3and 70 megs of GHK. So
1:26:25Speaker 3is it 1, 2, 3
1:26:28Speaker 3years?
1:26:29Speaker 2And then 3 A lot people think units
1:26:32Speaker 3with Migs. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yes. That's what I was thinking. That's what was thinking about the last girl, which says 3 mgs.
1:26:39Speaker 2Well, 3 mgs of what is that glow? Well, she's saying, Oh,
1:26:45Speaker 2well that's not it, but I weren't talking about the blend. Yeah. No, I'm saying she did. That makes me think she's it's not units because she's got that. So
1:26:52Speaker 3anyway, dude, I'm sorry, whatever. That's
1:26:55Speaker 3for you to figure out, but
1:26:58Speaker 3how do you, okay. Do I plan my stuff out for a year? The answer, my answer is no. I do not.
1:27:06Speaker 3I have, I have planned out.
1:27:09Speaker 3Can tell you what I've done in the past. Right? And, like, it just kinda works out like that. Now if we're talking about testosterone,
1:27:15Speaker 3and I know that's not really what you're talking about, but, like, I I generally, in the past couple years, have done, like, cruising and blasting. And so cruising,
1:27:22Speaker 3meaning dose,
1:27:24Speaker 3like a TRT dose, right, something less than 200 mg of testosterone,
1:27:29Speaker 3do that. And this is not advice for you to do. I'm just telling you this is what I've done is
1:27:35Speaker 32 months off, then bump that up, add some like small cutting compound and run that for 4 months. Take
1:27:42Speaker 32 months off, do the same thing for 4 months, and that gives me 12 months.
1:27:49Speaker 3But that's not
1:27:51Speaker 3long enough break, I think, for people. This is why I'm
1:27:55Speaker 3not really struggling yet to have a child. I haven't been trying that much, but that's why there could be potential struggles.
1:28:01Speaker 3I don't plan it out in a year. I plan it out maybe,
1:28:04Speaker 3you know,
1:28:05Speaker 34 months at a time, but then again, I don't have any exact
1:28:08Speaker 3specific goals. Right? Like, I'm in, I like to stay
1:28:12Speaker 3where I'm at year round and I'm not trying to
1:28:16Speaker 3get all much leaner and I'm not trying to get any bigger. And so
1:28:21Speaker 3had I had some real specific goals,
1:28:24Speaker 3cool. I could, I would, I would do that more.
1:28:28Speaker 3I don't know, man. Also JD and I, I think are kind of
1:28:32Speaker 3like garbage cans where we will
1:28:35Speaker 3air the side of more
1:28:37Speaker 3historically.
1:28:38Speaker 3So like, how do I know, how do you know, you know, where's the line between
1:28:43Speaker 3proven peptides and, and, something that just maybe heard something about, I don't know, we probably would just like, let's try it. Yeah. Yeah. But we do. Not a good advice. I'm just telling you what it is. Well, 2,
1:28:54Speaker 2there's a little side note. I mean, there's some compounds coming out that are gaining some notoriety. I won't talk about them yet because, but we
1:29:03Speaker 2do them 1st. I'm doing,
1:29:05Speaker 2well, actually see the compounds that are fairly common out there that we are about to release ourselves. But the reason I'm bringing this up is we don't usually do this stuff until we try them because that's so that's just the way it is just because everybody's talking about it doesn't mean that it's correct. Especially on the internet world, Trevor and Jay are obviously men who are in the know
1:29:30Speaker 2and they plan it out a year. Cool. I'm definitely not to do that,
1:29:34Speaker 2especially in, you know, we are dump dumpster fires for, we still have those, like, you know, we were come from a day. Those guys, Jay and him, like had their lives planned out also. Yeah. Well, so like people that are like super healthy are going to tell you generally what they're going to eat. And that part is great. Know, for me,
1:29:53Speaker 2my fasting protocol is usually
1:29:56Speaker 2dialed in. However, I changed that up. This morning I got up and I knew I was going to lift heavy and my wife has made our grudge into a gym. Now I ate some carbs because I knew it was going to lift.
1:30:07Speaker 2And then I ate some carbs after. And so I will switch it up and stuff like that. So I'm like a spur of the moment off the cuff type of a dude. I will never plan out my protocols a year in advance because I know I won't stick to it. I go off of, I am very like goal oriented. I think that's where will and I different for like, he doesn't have an objective. He likes to look how he looks and that works for him. I like to like sometimes look a lot buffer.
1:30:31Speaker 2Sometimes I want to look a lot leaner. I do that because I like the discipline of like changing things up and then trying different things on eating different ways, lifting different ways.
1:30:42Speaker 2And so that will change my protocol. But I will tell you live and learn when we, we know when I 1st started our company and we had access to certain things,
1:30:51Speaker 2it was a problem for me because I was like, yeah, bro, let's do all of that. And a lot of it. Like, that's definitely was not wise, but I learned and now I don't do that. And it works a lot better when you don't do that. Well, I like 4 compounds that varies a little bit for me.
1:31:08Speaker 2But
1:31:09Speaker 2let's just stop for a 2nd and be logical.
1:31:12Speaker 2If you're taking 8 compounds, which I've done, not judging you, how do you know what's working? You don't because I'm telling you with experience,
1:31:20Speaker 2I know that it doesn't. If you take, especially your brand new to peptide or, you know, peptides,
1:31:26Speaker 2just do 2. Start with our start with BPC. So those are the gateway drugs I call them because they work right away
1:31:34Speaker 2and then add in a couple at a time.
1:31:37Speaker 2So you know how they work. I didn't do it like that. So I'm giving you advice from me doing it wrong, you know? But now I do do that and I feel better. And like now when I run SS-31and
1:31:47Speaker 2a higher dose, I know it's SS-31.
1:31:49Speaker 2I mean, so.
1:31:51Speaker 3Yeah. Don't really have much more to add other than look, you're 43 and your testosterone test out at 04:24 65. If it were me, I would hands down, I'd go on testosterone.
1:32:02Speaker 2100.
1:32:04Speaker 2Change your life, brother. Will change your damn life. Mhmm. My friend. Yep.
1:32:09Speaker 3And, you know, I do things that, hey. Look. If I injure myself, that's time to blast some BPC and TB. I don't like to plan stuff out in the year because, like, goals change in life and, like, things change.
1:32:20Speaker 3Do that. And I'm not that rigid. Not saying that those guys are rigid, but, like,
1:32:26Speaker 3well, I'm not gonna plan it out knowing that I'm gonna change it, that the things were gonna happen. Right? And I don't wanna be bound and stuck to something
1:32:34Speaker 3just because I, you know, when it doesn't make sense anymore. And
1:32:39Speaker 3yeah, yeah, something might come up and be like, damn, I'm really feeling some brain fog. Like, I just
1:32:44Speaker 3ran into a wall with my bike. I better take a bunch of new tropics to like rebuild my traumatic brain injury. Shit
1:32:51Speaker 2happens. 0 And
1:32:53Speaker 2if you talk about Trevor in particular,
1:32:56Speaker 2he loves the new tropics.
1:32:57Speaker 2I don't love them as much. I'm a cutter guy. I like to like look lean.
1:33:02Speaker 2And so they're radically different personality. They're going after a different objective and that's going to change. Good
1:33:09Speaker 2question, guys. Listen, we, the coaching call is going to be Pacific Standard Time, and we're going to be doing it on Thursday
1:33:17Speaker 2at 04:00.
1:33:18Speaker 2They will be recorded. I'm assuming we'll we'll put them on school, but like, if you wanna have some interaction,
1:33:25Speaker 2get on there. Because my goal with that is to motivate the shit out of you, man. I love talking about
1:33:31Speaker 2mindset.
1:33:32Speaker 2I love talking about discipline. I'm gonna show you particularly how I went from sticking a needle in my arm to
1:33:39Speaker 2pretty successful guy who I think most would call successful. And like that cultivated through discipline. Will will tell you there's times when I'm like a psycho about it because
1:33:47Speaker 2it's empowering dude when you like enforce discipline, man. And, we're going to talk a lot about the cultivation
1:33:53Speaker 2of how you do that, right? How do you build discipline? It's a muscle, right? Like you do hard shit, right? Like the red is great. Well, take the red out and don't eat when you're hungry. That's discipline.
1:34:05Speaker 2So yeah, we're going to talk a lot about that and a heck of a lot more. We're going to start, we're also going to talk about business building. We're going to talk about cultivation of building a brand.
1:34:14Speaker 2It's not just a coaching program. We're going get you in shape. That part's obvious. You want to get ripped, but like, let's build a bad ass life too. Right. And let's do it together. I'm excited. So Thursday,
1:34:25Speaker 204:00 Pacific standard, if you're an Aussie and I know that's a weird time.
1:34:30Speaker 2Listen, there's a lot of you Aussies that listen, I love it. There's a guy that's that's from Australia that we live with. He's great. You're probably listening to this man. Shout out to you. I saw him yesterday. Haven't seen him in a while. He had a son in there. It was awesome. Met his son. Yeah.
1:34:43Speaker 2And, but yeah, we, we'll, we'll accommodate you, man. Like we,
1:34:47Speaker 2our goal is to help people. 3 And our goal is to get you to your objective.
1:34:52Speaker 2If you want to get ripped, we'll help you get there. But, we want to push you a little further. Poor Rob had a yeah. Accidental
1:34:59Speaker 3block party on his hands at his house when he came back for dinner the other day. They were gone for 4 weeks. They were traveling to
1:35:07Speaker 2Europe.
1:35:08Speaker 2They're in Italy. They're in Croatia.
1:35:11Speaker 2And I was like, dude, you were living at a hotel for a month. He said, yeah. I said, that sounds like hell.
1:35:17Speaker 2I was there for a week. I'm like, yeah, well, I'm so sick in this hotel.
1:35:22Speaker 2Anyway.
1:35:23Speaker 3Yep. That
1:35:24Speaker 2is it. Anything else, bro? No,
1:35:26Speaker 2I forgot. That's how we do it. And that's how we do it. But other than that, we will remember,
1:35:32Speaker 2do you like the guests? Do you like us to do a blend? Do you like the compounds talking about like that? We've been kind of straying away from that because we've been busy with guests. We want feedback guys,
1:35:43Speaker 2good, bad, ugly. We will read it into you won't offend us. Right? We got thick skin. And other than that, we'll catch you in the next round later.