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1:21Speaker 0Q and A day. It's a Tuesday is a Q and A day. Dude, I was thinking last night, it was crazy. I don't know what I was doing that made me trigger this, but it's like, holy shit, the summer is over.
1:37Speaker 2Well, the summer, I mean, luckily here in California, right? Our summer goes till November, but as far as weather goes,
1:46Speaker 2Is really hot. Yeah. If you've, if you live in Seattle where I'm from, summer starts, if you're lucky after July 4
1:57Speaker 2So that's a short summer. The only thing you have to look good to look forward to is football season starting.
2:03Speaker 2But yeah, these poor kids, I mean, like 2 weeks into the summer, I go into a store and there's like back to school sale.
2:11Speaker 2I hate those people, marketing people. I'm like, Dude, let these let everybody just enjoy summer, please.
2:17Speaker 2Is that bugging us? I mean, somebody was saying I went to school, there you know, pumpkins and
2:22Speaker 2Thanksgiving stuff out. Chill out on the selling us stuff right now. Oh, Christmas y. But yeah, summer's over, even though I set up a slip and slide in our backyard last night,
2:38Speaker 0So, and it was still warm outside. I know. I saw, I saw those pictures you sent. Like I was like, dude, I want a pool. I got stoked with a huge backyard, but no pool. I needed a pool.
2:48Speaker 0You do do. That's not a bitch. I'll be sitting in the Jacuzzi a lot. Yeah. I take a hot bath almost
3:04Speaker 0baking soda, which is supposed to draw out toxins. If I don't do a bath, I will do just my feet.
3:18Speaker 0camera. We were talking about how I was telling them that, I haven't feeling freaking amazing. Like I've been feeling amazing lately, just
3:30Speaker 0waking up just with vigor and just, wow. And it's, it's been the best I have felt in quite some time.
3:37Speaker 01, I've been sleeping better. That definitely probably plays a big role in it. You know, I've made some shifts and we'll probably talk about that in some of the questions.
3:44Speaker 0But I have been doing that. So that's another thing I didn't think of. I've been soaking my feet or soaking in a bath almost every night because I'm so OCD
4:02Speaker 0I used to wake up when I couldn't sleep at like 2 and take hot bath because I get tired.
4:06Speaker 0But yeah, I mean, that's what I'm gonna do with apple cider vinegar. My wife buys these big ass things with apple cider vinegar now. I didn't ask her. That's just why my wife rules. But
4:15Speaker 0you attribute most of this energy to your SS-thirty 1. Mean, so you know us and everything we do, we kind of think through like, why do I feel great? There's nothing that really has changed except for my protocol. I, we have greatly enhanced our SS 31, both of us. And I
4:32Speaker 0have no doubt in my mind that plays a big role in it. I can just kind of tell and they feel great.
4:41Speaker 0teetering back and forth on throwing MOTSY into it. I haven't ran MOTSY in quite some time. I
4:50Speaker 0I don't know if that was just my head. I definitely was taking too many compounds at the time, but you guys need to realize when, when I started our company, we are both in recovery. Like when we have access to things, we're like, yes. Yeah. We're like, woah. We can put in our bodies. We're studying and like reading about all this stuff and it's like, we wanna try it because like, that's just who we are. And then like, we were like, if I do 18 of these.
5:13Speaker 0Know what mean? More than better. Then all of sudden you get overwhelmed and like, feel weird.
5:19Speaker 0I've toned it down and now I just do few and it's been better. You know, it's working and stuff, but live and learn, man. That's what we talked about.
5:28Speaker 0know, like even like stuff back in our days when, you know, and we will and I have talked openly about this because why would we lie? We're grownups. We're allowed to do what we want. You know, we've ran numerous cycles of gear and that's how we learned it. Like,
5:42Speaker 0Everyone knows that by now, but where we really come together and we are the same is we study things that we're intrigued at. That's where the connection has been built of,
5:51Speaker 0you know, we don't just blindly take shit. Like study it. We want to know why, like, so that part is where I think the connection like stands
6:00Speaker 0holds strong, like we study stuff. Like, we've tried so many different compounds and it's crazy because
6:33Speaker 0And you never know unless you try. Right. Everybody's different, dude. It's crazy, because now we talk to so many people that try so many different compounds.
6:44Speaker 0And I've never heard of what they said, but like, everybody's different. My wife gets reactions to numerous peptides and she's my bride, you know? And like,
6:59Speaker 0It is what it is. But you can take a lot of other ones. The cool thing is there's like some there's a buckets
7:13Speaker 0there's a lot of others that do the same thing kind of. You know what I mean? Like what a cool thing.
7:27Speaker 0Just too much loud noises. I'm like rain man, dude. Like, v e r n. Like, you know, like, that's why when my kids screams, dude, like, I'm like, where do I run? Stop. You know? And, but dude, it was cool. Justin was out and, he brought his family. His kids had never been. Wow. So that I got to experience that with them.
7:47Speaker 2Did you get the wristbands and go to the front of the line? My wife does all that stuff. Yeah.
7:51Speaker 2There's no chance now I'm going to Disneyland to ride rides. Well, there's no chance now I'm gonna go to Disneyland without riding rides. Yeah. And there's no chance now I'm going without the wristband that gets me to the front of the line. I am not waiting 3 hours. My wife does that. And the 1 thing I love about my wife would like, so I'll give you a funny story about my bride. I know you're listening to this too, babe, and this is a funny story. So my son used to always love, Blippi,
8:14Speaker 0loved him. And 1, she wanted to get tickets. He was coming live, not the real Blippi, but they were doing some like dancing show and all this stuff. And Jax loved him. And my wife
8:24Speaker 0got some tickets and I wasn't gonna go because I was doing something, probably something for work. But then I caught myself and like, I'm like, why would I miss this with my son? Like, he loves it. So then I said, no, I'm going to go. And so of course my wife has to get another ticket. So we walk into this big ass stadium and I'm following my wife
8:45Speaker 0we're getting really close to the front. And I'm like, we are in the front freaking row, honey. Did you, how much did you spend on these tickets, babe? And she starts laughing. I'm like, you know, my wife, I'm like,
9:03Speaker 2well, I came home or here's a picture of my wife building this thing. It's like an outdoor movie theater. It's about the 45 foot screen. Yeah. It's part of her charm, bro. She will
9:14Speaker 0for my sons, man. 1 of the things I love is she's 1 the best moms I know, but man, she, she likes to spend. Yeah.
9:21Speaker 2Know what I mean? God bless her heart. Shout out to Huntington Beach. So we went to River's 1st football practice,
9:27Speaker 2flag football, and there was a lot of kids. We just moved him to Huntington here. Right? He's been in San Juan or Dan Point forever,
9:36Speaker 2has been playing at Friday night lights football and he's good at his flag football. He's 10. But
9:59Speaker 010 1 years old and wants to play flag football, we need players on the team. Sure. I would've never thought that would be hard to feel like my wife has signed up Jacks for soccer, AYSO,
10:10Speaker 0And, I called her for something and she answers it and she's like, you need to be a coach. I'm like, what? Like, what? I don't even know what she meant. Like, they need coaches. They can't find enough coaches. I need you to be coached. I'm like, babe, I would love to. I am so freaking busy. Like, what the hell am going to find out about? No way. 1 day. But like, yeah, but yeah. Well, okay. Yeah. But I was not 1 that they couldn't find coach. At some point in time. I know that's weird. My dad did that when I was young dude. So I'll definitely do it for Jack's.
10:36Speaker 0It's been a long time since I played soccer. What are the rules? I don't even remember. I don't know that age,
10:41Speaker 2are the rules. It doesn't really matter. If you kick in the other goal, like you scored.
10:49Speaker 0I mean, you've seen it over and over with like brothers and sisters. You got, they're so always just totally different. Like
11:01Speaker 0He's agile. He's flipping and jumping and spinning on things. Mason tries to copy him for sure. He'll roll and stuff. He's got his little belly. He's just such a little chunky baby. And he tries it. He's like, you can see athleticism and then like Mason, not as much. You know what I mean? And like, God, but I'll be all Mason. You want a bite of this? He goes, yeah.
11:30Speaker 2Now football season, the good thing. Yeah. So anyway, that'd be cool. We would like to, and then there's some young kids on the team, but
11:36Speaker 0river looked really good. Yeah. He's good. Was watching him when we went to the beach. You can see, well, just like Jack's, he has athleticism.
11:44Speaker 2You can tell balance. Yeah. Yes. Body type. He looks like a brother. He looks like a brother. Does. Yep. But the also the coach looks cool. The coach is this big muscle dude who, who, is a ex, I don't know, Marie. Don't want to just say Marine because, but maybe he's still in the military,
12:02Speaker 2but watching him run around and play with the kids, like he's athletic. Could tell. Was like, damn dude's got quick feet. He gets throw like, not like a girl and
12:11Speaker 2still with, with lots of muscles. So that's cool. I'm excited that the coach will be good. Hopefully we just have enough kids. Not worried about enough kids to fill the team. I'm worried about enough kids to be not be embarrassed.
12:24Speaker 2You gotta feel good too, bro. You gotta feel yeah. I think they'll probably make that. Mean, not at 4. He's 10. But there's some kids,
12:32Speaker 2he's going, he was held back. So he's going into 4th grade. He's pretty He just turned 10. Yeah. That's still pretty young. So,
12:40Speaker 0but anyway, 6 plus 6th grade gets a little bit more competitive. Yeah. 9th, obviously.
12:45Speaker 2And it's flagged, dude. And like kids are parents are putting their kids in tackle football now. And honestly from somebody who's played division 1 football,
12:58Speaker 2It's not like baseball. Baseball is like a basketball too. Like you better, well, you better be built for it in basketball, but you better practice your ass off. Right? Baseball is
13:14Speaker 2football's not. And I think that starting tackle, but all you're doing is just adding all these small little nagging injuries. I'm not worried about concussions for little kids because they just don't run fast enough to hurt each other. Right? But I do worry about, you know, it just sucks if, if you've played for 5 years and you've already ripped your fingernails off your hands and you know, broken fingers, it
13:35Speaker 0is, but why add an extra 5 years of it? Well, I didn't, I played soccer until 9th grade and I didn't play football, but you know, you're always playing football with your boys and stuff like before that. But like I jumped right into 9th grade and man just played,
13:48Speaker 0you know, yeah, you either got it or got it. So that's the athleticism that we talked about to where that's what Jack's does. He's just always flipping, doing something athletic. And I remember I would sit in front of my TV and throw the ball and then catch it. And like, you know, you throw it off and like, you
14:08Speaker 2It's the same with exercise. So folks, people ask people say, Hey, I want to get in shape. Right. And
14:17Speaker 2it's the thing about this. If I say you need to work out for an hour, 5 days a week, but then people go, okay, that's what I need to do to get in shape. But it's not about that. So that means out of a week, that's 24 hours times 7 days, you're working out for 5 hours. Right. That's not gonna cut it. What you need to do is your whole life needs to change. You need to enjoy
14:37Speaker 2going for hikes in the weekend. Right? You need to go jog at the park or go play play football with your friends. You need to go swimming on the weekends. This needs to be just, like, constant motion Yeah. Needs to be
15:01Speaker 0I think it's unique from the standpoint that not because it's our company, I think it's unique because it is unique. And what I mean by that is you have 4 coaches. You don't get a coach, you get 4 coaches, Will and myself, obviously.
15:13Speaker 0Dave Thomas, who we have hired, who is a freaking beast in the gym, and I love working out with him and he, he works out like a monster.
15:27Speaker 01 of the things that I've been thinking a lot about just off of my own experience of life, I'm 49 years old and man, I'm telling you, I've changed a lot in the last year,
15:36Speaker 0quite a bit from just things where I just, it's at 49, it's not about going in like lifting really heavy like I used to. I just can't,
15:45Speaker 0cause I want to continue. So it's lifting different. So you were going to be able to pass that knowledge on to men that are 50 and that are 40 because that's even different. That are 30, that's totally different.
16:15Speaker 0if you don't know that stuff, that's where a coach is going to really shine because we've done it our whole lives. And there's a lot of people that never even gone to a gym. You know what I mean? And
16:34Speaker 0A lot of time it's just to push people. But 1 of the, here's a couple of things that I like about our program.
16:50Speaker 0So that's not for everybody, but if for the right people, we will help you with that. Obviously detailed workout program.
16:57Speaker 0a lot of stuff's going to be in the gym because most people are going to lift weights. Now we are in the process as we speak of uploading about 35 of my hit training videos that are literally great. I'm not just saying that they are great. I started watching some of them again. I'm like, damn, I was kicking ass back then. They're about 0.5 old, but they are badass. So we'll have those for the people that like maybe do some weight training and hit training. If you do hit training, you burn fat for 48 hours. No joke. So that will be added into it. Obviously, 1 on 1 check ins,
17:42Speaker 0person that's in the program and we're going to look at what they're doing, how they're doing, and we're going to give 4 perspectives on how we get them to their goal. I don't know any other company or any other coaching program that does that. Our goal is to get you
18:00Speaker 0weekly zoom calls where we're going to talk about a lot about a lot, not just fitness diets,
18:08Speaker 0cultivation of mindset, the stuff I love. So I'm going be running those. And once a month, we're going to do a workout with the people that are either local or
18:25Speaker 0so excited about this program. Like if you see some of the stuff we post about warrior makers and just the crew, have
18:32Speaker 0trust me, you want to be involved with people that are what we do. They're just, we have the raddest people that work here. So pretty cool. I'm excited about it.
18:48Speaker 2we took this kind of from treat treatment. Right? You have all these people who are in treatment. They have different counselors that do different things. And then once a week, they all have a meeting about and go over every single client and
19:00Speaker 2say, how is he doing with this? How's he doing with that? What can we support him better at? And so we do the same thing with all of the clients that are in this program. Excited about that. Yeah. Think it's, yeah, absolutely. 0 So we got big things. And if you, if you are curious about the program
19:14Speaker 0and you're ready to get in shape again, it doesn't even need you might need to weight.
19:24Speaker 0help, we're obviously going to give you supplementation help because that's what we do.
19:33Speaker 0You do want to let us know, we do have a website. Can just call, you can just jump on there, warriormakerscoaching.com,
19:41Speaker 2You will get notified right away that you're in the program and where you go from there. And you get a full swag bag on the Centurion program. Get a t shirt on the
19:50Speaker 0legionary program, but go to that website. It's very simple and it outlines everything that we just talked about. Yeah. Let's like, we're looking for some cool people that are ready to, join the warrior maker team and let's do big shit together.
20:05Speaker 0Secondly, school, a lot of people are on school, but 1 of the things that we are dropping, if you have not been on school, get on school, we give so much free freaking content. I mean, protocols up the butt,
20:19Speaker 0just that alone is awesome. Like, you know, if you're looking on how to mix, what to do, blah, that's just the basics,
20:27Speaker 0man. Will has gone deep dives into a lot of rad content that you could be busy for days, just reading in. More than is posted that we are
20:50Speaker 0reading through the questions today and I noticed that most of them per ladies today. So we have a lot of ladies out there that
21:04Speaker 0stage back there, the producer. We're gonna do they're putting out some cool stuff. So that's gonna be dropping on school as well. Are we doing that on VIP or normal? Okay.
21:28Speaker 0we're always trying to upgrade and stuff and we have our hands in a lot of cookie jars, so sometimes just be patient, but we will improve everything.
21:38Speaker 0ironically leading into that, what do you want? We've talked about even elevating this podcast.
21:44Speaker 0And I don't stay stagnant. We are in constant growth in our lives and what we do. Hopefully you've seen that just from the progression of this podcast,
21:59Speaker 0I've had quite a bit of people at this point say, No, we love the Q and A and like, I like the Q and A too. So we can kind of leave that alone. We will bring Nora in sometimes and maybe some of the staff here because now they know peptides. They've been with us for a long time, most of them, and that's partly gay. You gotta learn, you gotta learn peptides.
22:32Speaker 0or do you like us to go back to talking about compounds? We're going to talk about 2 or 3 compounds like we used to do. We haven't done that a lot lately because we've had a lot of guests. The show's grown and, you know, we're able to get some good guests on.
22:45Speaker 0We're always going to balance it. But what do you guys I'm really curious about the answer. The answer can be, we want mix of both. Sure.
22:56Speaker 0very important to us. The feedback it really is. You will help us better the show. You are the listener and you listen for a reason. What do you want?
23:11Speaker 2Hey guys, love your podcasts. I've been on 4 mg weekly. Let's, we're going to start saying
23:23Speaker 2last thing is we are starting a website just called, it'll be called peptideoftheweek.com
23:29Speaker 2where we will air all these episodes because weird stuff is happening out there with social media and it can't be reliable. So we just want to create another space
23:39Speaker 0see 3 new videos. Sorry. Cause that made me think, okay. So a lot of you know, I posted something about the other day about,
23:51Speaker 0this industry is a very, small industry and everybody sticks together. We are really like, you know, Trevor, Jay, Josh, Holyfield. We were really close with these people. You know, it's been a blessing, but like on
24:05Speaker 0Like it doesn't matter if you have a problem with Doctor. Trevor, if you have a problem with Josh, if you have a problem with us, listen, that's rad. You don't, not everybody's going to like us, man. I've dealt with that my whole life, but
24:31Speaker 2that's just how we roll. So thank you for listening to that good stuff. Okay. What did your mother tell you growing up? If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all. Sometimes we agree, but sometimes we don't say it. All right. Hey guys, love the podcast.
25:02Speaker 2leaning out my midsection for a wedding in January. Previously tried Tessa Ipah for 8 weeks, but had significant water retention and pain.
25:27Speaker 2I'm a busy mom, a full time assistant principal, exercise daily, and play sports. I also struggle with low energy and poor sleep quality despite
25:34Speaker 2getting 6 to 7 hours. What would you be looking at researching before considering another stack,
25:54Speaker 0So I'm gonna go towards the sleeping thing because I have struggled with it, and I struggled with it. Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox, that's high performance loving.
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27:00Speaker 0For years and man, that really is going to affect your whole life. You don't say your age. I wish you did.
27:09Speaker 0you gotta get that under the control. Before I even get there, let's, let's just, the 1st thing that jumps out at me is hormones.
27:16Speaker 0I would imagine 1st off when's the 1st when's the last time you got your blood work done? I would love to know your age because that would definitely help answer some of that stuff, but it sounds to me like your hormones might be off and that happens to every 1 of us. It just is what it is. Could just be progesterone,
27:36Speaker 0working with the right person can get those in line. Just those are going to make you sing. And that'll probably fix your sleep just in itself.
27:44Speaker 0It could be low testosterone and that's not why that's why you're not sleeping. 1st off, get your blood work done, a dear,
28:00Speaker 0thinking when we don't feel well, we want to take something, but sometimes you got to know what you would, you would need to take and blood work's going to answer that because
28:09Speaker 0the hormones, you need that blood work. So get that done and you could even write back in and we can maybe help you with some of that stuff or get somebody that, you know, 1 of these gals, these doctors we've been working with might even help better than us.
28:29Speaker 0And again, shout out to the gentleman that, sent this to me. I think he's from Australia, I remember correctly.
28:47Speaker 0and that works well for me. And I have slept just so amazingly since I started that protocol.
28:59Speaker 0At the end of like, before I get ready for work, I go outside and I take my shoes off and I stare at the sun for literally about 3 minutes. And then I say another prayer and then I go jump my butt in a cold shower and it's
29:12Speaker 0worked well, but, there is something magical about your feet on the grass, your feet on the ground, the connection to
29:25Speaker 0energy. It is energy. So that's the woo side of me. I love it. I do that stuff and it works well for me,
29:34Speaker 0but I'm going to leave it there and see what will has to say, because I think you need to fix your hormones. I think your hormones are off. That's why you're probably really tired and that's an, that will probably fix your sleeping problem too. In the meantime, start taking this protocol. Promise you you'll sleep well. Yeah. I think the 1st thing that sticks out to me is like,
29:58Speaker 2okay, whenever you get some extra hunger. Right? So you're probably not eating enough food.
30:05Speaker 2You're not eating enough food, and that makes you a person tired and sluggish and not, you know, and fatigued, which are all the same things.
30:13Speaker 2So I would maybe abandon this. I mean, don't abandon completely, but like put the brakes on the losing the 5 kg and let's
30:28Speaker 2Believe it or not, and your metabolism is probably really slow because you've been, you know, restricting food,
30:38Speaker 2your body our metabolism will slow down, and I've said this almost every episode probably, metabolism will slow down to the amount of calories that we put in our bodies.
30:54Speaker 2maybe pull the Cagrilintide and try just so eat small frequent meals of protein. Make sure you're getting enough protein.
31:05Speaker 2benefit. It'll add more muscle. Therefore, metabolism goes up and you start losing weight better and you will get some you know, protein isn't our primary fuel source, but,
31:16Speaker 2are it's the easiest thing for our body to turn into to energy. K? But the problem is that when you eat a carbohydrate, if you don't burn that, if you don't use that carb for energy,
31:26Speaker 2it then goes great. Let's store and it stores on you, converts into fat and stores for energy later.
31:36Speaker 2timed carbs are fine. Right? Like eat some carbs before your workout. Great. You'll have a good workout. Right. Cause you'll use those, you'll use those
31:44Speaker 2during the workout. Eat carbs in the morning. You're going to be walking around and doing all your thing, you know, using your brain all day long. That burns calories, by the way. Yeah. Just stay away from the carbs at night, but try to get yourself on a on a on a small
32:04Speaker 2Other than that, the only other, I would try something like B12, like look at your vitamins. So again, the fuel source has gone. Therefore, you're probably not getting the right vitamins and nutrients,
32:16Speaker 2which is B12 with the methyl added. Doctor Scott talks about it all the time. That might might just give you a lot of energy, but as far as peptides go,
32:29Speaker 2SS-thirty 1 is going to bake make your is gonna harness all the energy in your mitochondria and basically that
32:35Speaker 2all converts into ATP, and that's our cellular energy. That's the stuff that makes us yeah. Our muscles really move and faster and stronger, and you have a bit more stamina throughout the day. So I would take a look at that, and I wouldn't do less than 5 Migs a day of SS-31NAD
32:55Speaker 2Just be careful of not stack just don't just like throw a whole bunch of stuff on your plate at
33:04Speaker 0talked about it, but like it's important to touch on this again because again, I was just in Disneyland and they do not have a lot of healthy food at Disneyland. And we sat and ate breakfast with our friends and it was an all you can eat place. And as you can imagine, most people are going gorge themselves at those places and it's not the best food. And I had a conversation with a good friend of mine, Justin, who's also a coach, you know, and he knows a lot about nutrition and we were talking through this.
33:33Speaker 0in a place like that, it's going to be a lot of shit food, And there's gonna be a lot of temptation. So your carbs
33:42Speaker 0Like, you know what I mean? Instead of like bad carbs, just you be smart. And when I say think through stuff,
33:50Speaker 0eat foods that are, you can eat a lot of that are going to be less calories because you probably want to eat more. So that's just using your brain And that's
34:00Speaker 0if you go somewhere, but you 2 here, again, you gotta be thinking through when to eat, when to eat certain
34:07Speaker 0foods. And for you ladies, I really think that you need to start your day with about 40 grams of protein. And I am trying to talk my bride into that
34:16Speaker 0because I really think that is important for you ladies, not as much men that can do more 2 fasting and
34:21Speaker 0affects women differently. Hope helps. Eat before you go to Disneyland. So you don't, you're not starving and then eat all of their bad food. 0 Seriously. Well, what we did was, you know, we were with all people that were fairly healthy. Right. And like, didn't want to eat that food. We
34:37Speaker 0waited and ate at a steak house and we all sat down at a nice dinner. Like it was about 05:00 and we all ate a good meal, you know? Mean,
34:50Speaker 0this other side. California Adventure has some nice restaurants. We could have ate when we were in Disneyland side, but we waited, right, thinking through it because they just had crap food there. Yep. And none of us were gonna eat that stuff. And I had a nice steak.
35:05Speaker 2damn eggs or avocado for me, which blew me away. So I just ate the steak. So, drink a lot of water too. The only thing I always noticed is is throughout the day, right, if I'm getting tired and I'm like, damn, let's I'm tired. I must need more coffee. Right? And I drink my 3rd cup of coffee and I go, wow, that did nothing to me. I will, if I go just chug a bunch of water,
35:26Speaker 2that will wake me up better than anything. Obviously, more coffee is dehydrating and it just kind of stops working. So like, keep yourself really hydrated. Those of you who've read those like Jack Reacher books, I always remember like they, oh, he always,
35:44Speaker 2say that Jack Reacher, like he's always drinking a whole bunch of water. He thinks that that's the lifeblood of his energy and, and, and everything. It's kind of an interesting saltwater thing.
35:52Speaker 0But, and JD likes saltwater and that's great too. That's even, that's a little bit better. It absorbs. Yeah. That's what, especially the water, if it's not like a Kagan or whatnot, which we have a gal coming in on Friday. I can't wait to ask her questions,
36:03Speaker 0but you're, you're peeing a lot. Your water's going through you. The salt's going to help you absorb it better. So, you know, all right. So see, Hey guys, love your podcast. I tell all my peptide curious homies to tune in 35
37:24Speaker 2tell me that they had these symptoms after doing NAD. And I'm not saying you didn't, you obviously did. So
37:32Speaker 2I think that you're experiencing some type of reaction, like an allergic reaction to this and specifically to NAD,
37:41Speaker 2what we talk about, like a histamine reaction where it's just a foreign substance and so your body creates histamines. Yes, this is also like a histam it is a histamine reaction, but I think you're actually, like, probably allergic to the NAD.
38:27Speaker 2so you might be allergic to something. It was in that. There could have been a contaminant, who knows, but it could you could just be allergic to the actual entity itself, and therefore, a new batch, a new lot will do nothing, and you'll experience the same reaction. The edema is which is like the swelling in your legs. It's that 3 pounds is obviously water.
38:49Speaker 2And nobody burns it that fast either when when they stop. So there was some reaction and you just may not be a good candidate for any.
38:59Speaker 2That's all, it's all there is, but it's up to you if you really, really, really want to try NAD again, I would do what I said previously.
39:35Speaker 0NAD is great. I love NAD. He just answered that. Try what he said. If you can try another batch or another
39:43Speaker 0or maybe whatever, if it's a good company, they'll replace it. And we'll ask questions.
40:00Speaker 0You're right in that range where you really need to start looking at your hormones. So we want to get the blood work done.
40:16Speaker 0would go with the doctor that knows what they're doing. And then the cool thing is there are a lot more coming out. There's a lot of doctors that are starting to see the light step away from the Western medicine and really starting to get back to, I think why they became a doctor, you know? And I love it. It's,
40:32Speaker 0you know, Doctor. K on here last week, she was rad. People have loved her. I think that's great. I've been talking to her through DM for quite some time and I knew that she was going to be great. So here you go. So yeah, I guess your blood work done. In regards to peptides,
41:17Speaker 2right. Number 3. Hey guys, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and creating the podcast. I listen while I'm driving almost daily. Okay. So I've heard you guys talk about pipette storage and remember a highlight was to avoid moisture,
41:29Speaker 2keep them in a cool, dark place, etcetera. I have mine stored in a hydro peak canister with silicone inserts, constituted
41:44Speaker 2Weird. Thinking if it's in the outside of the vial, it's probably on the inside too. Right? Should I be concerned, and is there a better container you recommend for storing?
41:59Speaker 2If it's on the outside of the vial, it does not absolutely no. It it's it does it it doesn't mean that it's on the inside. That would be weird. Because the
42:25Speaker 2The con well, there shouldn't we don't want condensation inside of the bottle. See that's That's
42:29Speaker 2a problem if you see that. But my guess is you don't have that. And just because you have a conversation on the outside,
42:37Speaker 2So do I. And all of mine, there's conversation on the outside, not on the inside. So you're good to go.
42:44Speaker 2Well, you should be good to go, just assuming. Dry it about, dry it off, and see if there's condensation on the inside.
43:21Speaker 2easy bacteria can affect that tiny little peptide chain very easily, but a human being, not that easy. So
43:28Speaker 2yeah, dude, you're the right, you're on the right track and man, there's your answer. Keep doing what you've been doing. 0 Yeah. I just wrote down fridge. That's
43:36Speaker 0where, I mean, so I have, we have kids, you know, in my house and like, we don't, you know, they're not old. No, they do actually go in the fridge. In my office at my house, I have a nice
43:45Speaker 0sized fridge and we keep all of our peptides there that are out of the kids able to get to it. That's what works for me. So if you have ability to do that, just keep them in that little fridge, man. That's perfect.
44:23Speaker 0Is there actually a benefit of stacking sequencing them in this way? MOTS-1C an important part of the process or can SS-31NAD
44:37Speaker 0these 3 and the reasoning behind it. Great question comes up all the time to us as well. Go ahead. Yeah. All right. So here's, I'll give you,
44:45Speaker 2well, I'll give you a lot of some points of views. So 1st of all, what do these things do? So SS-thirty
45:04Speaker 2Inside of there, that needs to be creating like, it's a power plant, right, and it needs to create the energy and then go only 1 direction. Go out 1 tube
45:24Speaker 2it starts leaking out and not all of it goes through that 1 tube that where you need it to go. Okay? SS-thirty
45:31Speaker 21 is basically plugging all of those holes. So it makes sure that your MIDI call that energy your MIDI crown deer is creating is harnessing that and it is all sending to the right place. Okay? So
45:45Speaker 2giving more energy to the mitochondria. Okay? It's not creating more mitochondria, it's just giving more,
46:26Speaker 2if you got holes all over the place? Right? And it's just gonna leak out anyway. So 1st things 1st is the is the SS-thirty
46:34Speaker 21. Right? And if you ask Jay Campbell, he thinks that SS-thirty 1 should be gone done a month
46:51Speaker 2most people of a certain young age, and she didn't give us an exact number, but, you know, probably like under 40,
46:59Speaker 2are their mitochondria is perfectly fine. Okay? Most people, your mitochondria is perfectly fine. It's only as you get older
47:06Speaker 2is it starts to decline its energy output. Therefore, anybody young doing MOTS-3s probably not gonna feel anything and notice anything because it's not gonna take you from extra,
47:15Speaker 2it may not take you an extra physiologic, super physiological levels. Right? And so there's no point in doing it if you're younger. The proof is in the pudding on the MOTS-3s, right? If you do it and you go, holy shit, like I feel I have way more energy. Like life's good. That means you probably had some damage to mitochondria and you're, you're, it wasn't creating all the energy that it should have been. We know some people like that. We know people, if I take MOTS-3A, I don't really notice a difference.
48:09Speaker 2that is like hands down the biggest detriment. And also still, I think I've like really just completely stopped all my testosterone,
48:40Speaker 2that's how those things work. To my suggestion, I don't have a problem. I think that MOTS-3s): Or I mean SS-thirty 1 for sure. Do that Okay. We got to solidify the container.
48:52Speaker 2and I would run that, I don't know, hell 2 weeks again, minimum 5 megs a day. I really don't think it's kind of even worthwhile to do any less JD and I are doing like 30 megs a day. Yep. And
49:04Speaker 2so I don't know, a couple of weeks and then, then I have no problem running MOTS-1s with
49:15Speaker 2also think that with SS-thirty 1, it is 1 of these things where it's gonna go fill that
49:20Speaker 2don't need to keep taking the SS-thirty 1. It's like, I would take it for 1 month and cool. If MOTS-1C overlaps that, that's fine. But maybe quarterly,
49:33Speaker 2So run it, solidify that. And then it's going stay solid until some, you know, more holes get poked in it and then do it again. Yeah.
49:41Speaker 2And NAD shoot, I think NAD can be ran- Anytime. Anytime, all the time, if you want. If you don't, if you're not allergic, like the last person,
49:59Speaker 0That is my best attempt to set the record straight. Although that's great. I can't even like add that much to it, except for the fact that we're blessed to be able to hang out with some people that are hell of a lot smarter than us and know a lot more than us. That part's been a blessing.
50:13Speaker 0You know, I have, I was sitting the other night with Jay Campbell, Trevor Cruder, and Trevor's partner, his name's Doug. And,
50:21Speaker 0you know, they talk deep, deep, deep peptide stuff. I felt definitely out my league, you know? And, I say that being honest and, but I am a sponge,
50:30Speaker 0I'm asking questions and just soaking this stuff up and I'm blessed to be able to be pretty good friends with these friends
50:41Speaker 0and Josh Holyfield and everybody that comes in and there's always a slightly different opinion.
50:49Speaker 0just nail that. I think that you're gonna, most people at this point are going to say start with SS-31.
51:07Speaker 0the amount that is suggested even 5 megs. And if you can afford more, I would suggest you go up. I really do feel like it's made a really big difference in how I feel.
51:18Speaker 0You don't have to do 30 megs like us. Obviously, we can kind of get it fairly easily, but just
51:25Speaker 0to you on the MOTS-1C. I have not decided if I'm going to add MOTS-1C back in. You know me, if I do, I'll tell you how I feel.
51:34Speaker 0That was perfect. So it, run run it, run it. I love it. That doesn't matter. That doesn't come into this equation in my opinion at all. You should run it. And they're not redundant. They're not all just doing the same thing. That was 1 of the main questions.
51:46Speaker 2Okay. Hey guys, I'm a 42 year old female from Australia. I've recently discovered the benefits of peptides
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53:09Speaker 2or remaining on a low dose before going up again. I would appreciate your thoughts. I'm happy with my level of leanness and have all the foundations in place. I strength train 4 times a week, and cardio the other 3 times a week. I've just started Tessa and after listening to you guys thought about adding AOD with this while on a break from Retta. For reference, I am 52 kg and
53:38Speaker 0the 1st thing that jumped out at me was, think you answered, am happy with my level of of leanness
53:48Speaker 0I'm just even curious why you even need Retta. You know, I think if you took out the Retta and replaced it with like a 5 -1MQ,
53:55Speaker 01 of the things that it really goes well with people coming off Reta or while you're on it,
54:00Speaker 0because it's going to take, it's going to chew your body's going to choose to burn fat rather than glucose.
54:06Speaker 0So it does help with the burning fat. Like it's basically like you're running on keto to a degree, you know, the easiest way to explain it. And,
54:13Speaker 0so, we've, I've just talked with a lot of people that do well with coming off Reta and running 5MA and 1MQ, and it's a freaking amazing compound. It just is.
54:35Speaker 0then you can kind of toy around with different things and stuff. Mean, again, if you need Retta,
54:41Speaker 0then add it back in. So my opinion would be, yeah, sure. Come off it. Then try some different compounds. You sound like a disciplined human.
55:46Speaker 2is doing much of a reset. I also don't think a form 4 week reset at 0 is doing much of a reset.
55:54Speaker 2I think it's negligible either way, but I'm also not mad at you for staying on a 1 mg maintenance dose. Like I know tons of people who do and honestly just for like the brain,
56:16Speaker 2Okay? I because I don't think the 2 2.5 Migs are just gonna work like so much better if you're off for 4 weeks versus being on 1 Mig 4 weeks. Yeah.
56:26Speaker 2But, yeah, it's like and JD, like, the goal is to take nothing. It sounds like you are, and the goal is to build you know, with with these stuff, with the GLP-1s, hopefully,
56:41Speaker 2and be on it long enough where you got those habits down and then very slowly pull it out and maintain your habits of discipline,
57:03Speaker 0what I liked about it, it's an amazing compound for me. It took me out of my discipline. Like I knew I could cheat a little bit. And then when I, you start cheating a little bit, you just start, here's
57:13Speaker 0my discipline. Like as well, like I was like, damn dude, like I'm just man, I'm super disciplined and it really started to affect me. I, I had to pull it because like, I was like, dude, listen, it's jacked up my discipline. And I'd like to be disciplined because it's just, that's where I like to sit. So maybe you're like that. You sound disciplined. Yep. So maybe,
57:46Speaker 2come off some peptides, right, and then replace with something else. Yeah. So AOD is a great 1. Like, Tesofensine's
58:07Speaker 2those could be potential replacements if you need them, but I guess but that's contrary to the argument that we were just talking about, about discipline and not taking something
58:17Speaker 2and needing it. Yeah. Up to you though. I'm not mad at you either way. Like I totally get it. Everybody's
58:23Speaker 2different. Everybody's different, different places in your life. It sounds like you're on your shit, so you're a good candidate to
58:28Speaker 0try it on your own. Right? Yeah. Yeah. That's a good question for you. I'm 33, Five'eleven100And75Pounds.
58:36Speaker 0Wow. That's a big difference. Engaged and getting married in November. Congratulations.
58:41Speaker 0My fiance and I are actively trying for our 1st child as well. Recent labs came back with a total T of 4 20, free T of 65,
59:00Speaker 0604 to my stack soon for, more fat burning. I already know TRT is the best way to go for prime optimization,
59:19Speaker 0100 micrograms and says she feels her ovaries moving. So I hope that's a good sign. Love the content. Keep up the good work. All
59:29Speaker 2last sentence, I have no idea what that means. And so I would talk to a doctor about her feeling her ovaries moving.
59:37Speaker 2I can't, I can't speak to that. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing or like what that feels like or
59:50Speaker 2the best scenario to make you as fertile as possible is to pull the tier, the test completely. I don't think it's, I don't think he's on test.
59:59Speaker 2Well, then don't pull it. Just don't do it. Because he did say TRT is the best way to go prime optimization.
1:00:04Speaker 2Yes. That is true. To feel the best, look the best, but definitely not to be the most fertile. So if you're on test, you know and I know, but again, we I have 10 friends. JD's a 2 time winner on this example of
1:00:19Speaker 2being on a low dose of TRT and still getting the your wife pregnant. So it's possible,
1:00:30Speaker 2be more fertile. Doctor. Kiss said 3 months. She said that once you pull the test, it's going going to take 3 months,
1:00:55Speaker 2IUs 3 times a week and she her her response to that was maybe you should do less only because
1:01:10Speaker 2I mean, I get estrogen symptoms. Cool. When I ask for them, like when I do like a lot of tests, hell yeah, like everybody else, but I don't get estrogen,
1:01:30Speaker 2Also told me to, I think it's like 12.5 mg of Enclomiphene. Usually they come in 12.5 mg tabs.
1:01:42Speaker 2so, cool. I'm gonna try 12.5 and the same thing, same reason and reasoning behind that.
1:02:12Speaker 2to any stimulus because it thinks it has enough tests. Right? But Kisspeptin is working way upstream on your brain 1st to tell your body, Hey, let's go make my
1:02:30Speaker 2Cool. If you're not taking tests, yeah, I'd run them all. The 1 thing about my research that on the Kisspeptin-ten is like they use Kisspeptin-ten
1:02:47Speaker 2So more is not better in this case. You actually want it to be somewhere around that hundred microgram 3 times a week. Okay? Yeah. So at low doses, cool, it's gonna help. At high doses, it's going to hinder you.
1:03:13Speaker 2If you're not getting any luck in like 6 months, then we can start adding an HMG at like 75
1:03:46Speaker 2The free test is high, so that's great. And that's what really matters. Yeah. You know,
1:04:19Speaker 0less cardio. 0 Yeah. Just get just, you know, like weight training is always a good thing for everybody, dude. That's what's going to keep you younger.
1:04:37Speaker 0Know, I like to keep mine around roughly 45 to 50 because that's where I feel the best. Doesn't mean that you're, you're me,
1:04:43Speaker 0but you're cruising man. You know, Enclomiphene's great because, you know, there are actual clinical trials that have shown that it's going to raise testosterone
1:05:01Speaker 0but I have no doubt in my mind, unless your bride might have some issues. You'll you'll get a pregnant man. If you go in school, I have like diagram details
1:05:10Speaker 2of how all of the fertility drugs work in a person's body. Like all of the pathways of just like, yeah, he goes from here to there, to there, to there
1:05:35Speaker 2show and I heard David Sinclair talk about how our can cause an eye stroke, which causes blindness in 1 eye.
1:05:48Speaker 2and I find that 1 in every 10000 people have this issue with GLP ones. Is there any data
1:05:54Speaker 2on what other factors might cause this issue? For example, I remember research on Cardrian said it would cause cancer in mice, but it was a huge dose compared to the typical human dose, right? It was, it was 80. They gave a poor mouse 80 times the human dose,
1:06:21Speaker 2which isn't great odds for something as serious and complete vision loss. Thank you for all your support and provided us. Okay, so I did some research also
1:06:52Speaker 2means may affect up to 1 in 10000. Right? This is like a general label that that researchers put on some things,
1:07:27Speaker 2So some other things to look for that you can basically, I mean, there's other things that are going on. So basically
1:07:40Speaker 2small crowded optic disc, which you can go to your eye doctor and see if you have that.
1:07:45Speaker 2That's 1 of the leading, like, characteristics of somebody who might be prone to this. So if you're worried, do that, and that will probably rule you out. Prior NAION
1:07:55Speaker 2on the other eye, diabetes, hyper oh, that was sorry. For the prior sentence, previous sentence. Diabetes,
1:08:08Speaker 2There you go. Which literally is like the beginning of like, those are risks, dude, like every condition that we ever talk about. Literally. Okay. So you
1:08:35Speaker 0we all read, we can like look at a picture and 1 person likes it. 1 person doesn't. 1 person likes tomatoes. 1 person hates it. That's so cool about life. When I read this, I wrote down Doritos. What I mean by that is like, I'd be more worried about Doritos, bro, than being worried about the R and what you're worried about. Because I'm like, my brain goes,
1:08:53Speaker 01 in 10,000? Yeah. Probably won't be me. Probably won't be me. So my brain goes, I wouldn't even be worried about that. But if you are worried about it because you're not me,
1:09:04Speaker 0You know what I mean? I mean, if you're somebody that's, you know, like your risk tolerance is a lot different than mine, I mean, used to do heroin, so, like, like, let's jump. Yeah. I think we'll make it. So
1:09:16Speaker 0But if you're not that, which just sounds like it, then don't do it, man. Like, if you're gonna trip on it while you're taking it and, like,
1:15:09Speaker 0We take steroids and we take antibiotics and we've all done it. Unfortunately they really just
1:15:16Speaker 0Jack our stomach up. You know, I think a lot of the problems as humans that we run into are because of those, you know, and that's what doctors know to prescribe and that is what it is,
1:15:28Speaker 0but there's a lot of chain reactions that come to that stuff. I mean, I'm going to answer a little bit differently because I think that you need to go right into the KPV and the oral BPC pills. I think that you should be starting to run those.
1:15:42Speaker 0because that's going to really help to abuse your immune system. Antibiotics are going to really just
1:16:01Speaker 0You know, again, I'll always just use my experience with life. I've had gut problems and I feel knock on wood and jinx myself that they're feeling a lot better than they were. Now I will tell you that I have been on a protocol from Doctor. Scott for a while, but I have been taking the KPV and the BPC
1:16:22Speaker 0I've had leaky gut forever. You know, I have yeast and like, what do have SIBO and all this crap? Whatever
1:16:35Speaker 2too. But what did, whatever the outbreak 3 was that it was in bad Yeah. What the hell it's going to bug you with a C Salmon. No, no, no. It starts with the C. It was like killing people.
1:16:49Speaker 0so do that, try that. And yeah, I don't think they're needing to wait necessarily. I think those,
1:17:08Speaker 2worried about, I guess I just, you worry about infection, right? Leaky guy, like that's toxic stuff making your septic and you need to know about that. So
1:17:20Speaker 2but I have no problem. I mean, I guess I have no problem. I would personally take the oral BPC and KPV immediately.
1:17:33Speaker 0It's definitely different for women, but like, let's throw some fasting in there. Fasting will reboot your gut. And when you get to about a 16 hour,
1:17:55Speaker 0you would reboot your gut so well, and that would start you off on a great Push your limits, train with precision,
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1:19:20Speaker 2Thoughts on adding IGF 1? I mean, plus how could you glow is 3 things? So how do you know? Anyway,
1:19:28Speaker 21? I prefer a lean small frame as I always have been running performance feels best at this size growing a stupid amount of humans
1:19:44Speaker 2but not excessive. 125 was my max prego weight. Damn. I believe slight muscle gain, not fat loss can increase the definition of fullness through my lower back, abdomen, and ass filling out that skin question mark. Anything I have considered GH peptides make me way too bloaty at invisible doses. Okay. So not worth it for me. Mahalo for all your knowledge. I learned so much from you. Yeah. We got a Hawaii gal.
1:20:34Speaker 0tiny for a woman, right? Yeah. So like, I wouldn't give my wife Retta at all. Like, I'm not, that's like Alyssa. It does like Alyssa. So
1:20:42Speaker 0like, I wouldn't even do that. Like you, what I you're a runner. So I would throw in SLU-3D-332
1:20:52Speaker 0you can, that you don't need the RET. I think that are that you're going to, I think you're going to get a lot from that. You said that you don't do well on growth hormones,
1:21:01Speaker 0peptides, but have you tried HGH or 45? Maybe 1 IU. I mean, you really need low dose for a gal. 1 Well, you, I mean, even every other day or 5 days on 2 days off. Yeah. It's gonna help you recover. You're going to sleep well. I mean, it takes a little while for it to hit you, but you will start sleeping well, think right away.
1:21:19Speaker 0And I would try that rather than the Tessa Ipah because if you feel like you're getting water away, you're really lean. So you notice when there's a little bit of water weight, right? So
1:21:33Speaker 0or go, which, which we prefer more here at over 40 for men and women is just small dose of HGH.
1:21:50Speaker 2I would agree in some of that, but, but yeah, so 12%. So men, they generally say like, here's the, you know, healthy, healthy men is like something like between 12 and 15, but the truth is really, somewhere between like 812%
1:22:14Speaker 2a normal average healthy woman is. And I could, you know, lower that a little bit, maybe like
1:22:22Speaker 2you know, you theoretically, you stop ovulating because God says you have, don't have enough fat to support another child. Now she might be saying, she might say bullshit. I had 6 of them when I was this lean, but like, cool. I'm just saying what the,
1:22:39Speaker 2Yeah. For sure. Okay. So I agree with the sleep. 1st thing that came to mind, sleep. You're but basically the bodyguard percent is you're right. You do not need to burn any more fat.
1:22:50Speaker 2Adding muscle will be everything that you want it to be. Like, that needs to be your primary goal, which is why you are asking about IGF-one.
1:23:02Speaker 2don't know. I guess I don't don't have the good feeling about the IGF-one for you right now. Think I totally agreed on the HGH.
1:23:12Speaker 2any bloating. I know you said you did the GH peptides at invisible doses and still got bloating, but
1:23:23Speaker 2which is 1 mg, or there's Mega SLU-3P with 100 mg. And we know plenty of women who take that.
1:23:30Speaker 2You might be a good candidate. The 1st thing that pokes out at me though is I would stop running.
1:23:35Speaker 2And I know that you're gonna be, well, like, I I get it. Like, that's what makes me happy, but you also lift, like, find something else that is lifting related
1:23:52Speaker 2Because you're running, you're never going to, as a woman and at 54 running that dang much, sorry, you're just never,
1:24:01Speaker 2you're never going to add much muscle. You're just burning it all off. It is what it is. So I don't even, do have 1 try not even strong enough.
1:24:09Speaker 2Like, you would need to do something like testosterone and shit testosterone might be the answer. I know. Low dose testosterone
1:24:15Speaker 2might be your best your best go to. Oh, I guess I thought you're yeah, you're 45. Okay. Had about 9 54. But
1:24:25Speaker 2I still don't change my answer based on that age. 60, 70 miles a week running, man. That's, there's no way you can drive that far. Like no fucking wonder. Right?
1:24:37Speaker 2So yeah, I would find something you could do, jump off cliffs or something, or like lift really heavy and,
1:24:43Speaker 2do HIIT training, but max 30 minutes, right? The thing about HIIT training is so you go and you stop at 30 minutes, so then your body doesn't start eating into your muscle and burning that off for fuel.
1:25:16Speaker 0I live regularly, get blood work every 6 months. And my total T has been around 4 20 to 4 65.
1:25:36Speaker 0got into peptides 5 or 6 months ago and quickly went from 1 goal to wanting to optimize body comp, energy, recovery, hormones, and longevity.
1:25:44Speaker 0We know how that works. I've heard Trevor Cruder and Jay Campbell on your show talk about planning their protocols
1:25:51Speaker 0for the entire year. How do you guys actually build a smart annual plan without making it a full time job? And how do you know what to truly belongs in the plans versus hearing about something new and thinking, well, I guess I need that too. That was a great question.
1:26:06Speaker 2That is a good question. My 1st question though, is this is the 3rd time that somebody said it, JD, what do you think when somebody says I'm doing CLO 5 mg
1:26:47Speaker 2with Migs. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking about the last girl. She said, well,
1:26:56Speaker 0of what? Is that glow? Well, she's saying Retatrut or Arbitso. Oh, well that's not it, but I'm talking about the blend. Yeah. No, I'm saying she did. That makes me think she did. Not units because she's got that. So
1:27:13Speaker 2how do you, okay. Do I plan my 3 stuff out for a year? The answer my answer is no. I do not. I
1:27:24Speaker 2I can tell you what I've done in the past. Right? And like, it just kind of works out like that. If we're talking about testosterone
1:27:30Speaker 2and I know that's not really what you're talking about, but, like, I generally in the past couple of years have done, like, cruising and blasting. And so cruising meaning
1:27:44Speaker 2do that. And this is not advice for you to do. I'm just telling you this is what I've done is
1:27:50Speaker 22 months off, then bump that up, add some like small cutting compound and run that for 4 months. Take
1:28:10Speaker 2not really struggling yet to have a child. I haven't been trying that much, but that's why there could be potential struggles.
1:29:00Speaker 2something that just maybe heard something about, I don't know, we probably would just like, let's try it. Yeah, yeah. But we do. Not a good advice. I'm just telling you what it is. Well, 2,
1:29:09Speaker 0there's a little side note. I mean, there's some compounds coming out that are gaining some notoriety. I won't talk about them yet because, but we
1:29:18Speaker 0do them 1st. I'm doing, well, like, well actually see the compounds that are fairly common out there that we are about to release ourselves. But the thing, the reason I'm bringing this up is we don't usually do this stuff until we try them because that's so that's just the way it is just because everybody's talking about it doesn't mean that it's correct. Especially on the internet world, Trevor and Jay are obviously men who are in the know
1:29:49Speaker 0especially in, you know, we are dump dumpster fires for We still have those, like, you know, we were come from a day. Were at- Those guys, Jay and him, like their lives planned out also. Yeah. Well, so like people that are like super healthy are going to tell you generally what they're going to eat. And that part is great. You know, for me,
1:30:11Speaker 0dialed in. However, I changed that up. This morning I got up and I knew I was going to lift heavy and my wife has made our grudge into a gym. Now I ate some carbs because I knew it was going to lift.
1:30:24Speaker 0and so I will switch it up and stuff like that. So I'm like a spur of the moment off the cuff type of a dude. I will never plan out my protocols a year in advance because I know I won't stick to it. I go off of, I am very like goal oriented. I think that's where will and I different for like, he doesn't have an objective. He likes to look how he looks and that works for him. I like to like sometimes look a lot buffer.
1:30:46Speaker 0Sometimes I want to look a lot leaner. I do that because I like the discipline of like changing things up and then trying different things on eating different ways, lifting different ways.
1:30:56Speaker 0And so that will change my protocol. But I will tell you live and learn when we, we know, when I 1st started our company and we had access to certain things,
1:31:09Speaker 0let's do all of that. And a lot of it. Like, that's definitely was not wise, but I learned and now I don't do that. And it works a lot better when you don't do that. Well, I said like 4 compounds that varies a little bit for me,
1:31:24Speaker 0but let's just stop for a 2nd to be logical. If you're taking 8 compounds, which I've done, not judging you, how do you know what's working? You don't because I'm telling you with experience.
1:31:35Speaker 0I know that it doesn't. If you take, especially your brand new to peptide or, you know, peptides,
1:31:41Speaker 0just do 2, start with our start with BPC. So those are the gateway drugs I call them because they work right away and then add in a couple at a time.
1:31:52Speaker 0So you know how they work. I didn't do it like that. So I'm giving you advice from me doing it wrong, you know? But now I do do that and I feel better. And like now when I run SS-31and
1:32:06Speaker 2I don't really have much more to add other than look, you're 43 and your testosterone test out at 04:20, 4 65. If it were me, I would hands down, I'd go on testosterone.
1:32:24Speaker 2And, you know, I do things that, hey. Look. If I injure myself, that's time to blast some BPC and TB. I don't like to plan stuff out in the year because, like, goals change in life and, like, things change.
1:32:41Speaker 2well, I'm not gonna plan it out knowing that I'm gonna change it, that the things were gonna happen. Right? And I don't wanna be bound and stuck to something
1:32:54Speaker 2yeah, yeah, Something might come up and be like, damn, I'm really feeling some brain fog. Like I just
1:32:59Speaker 2ran into a wall with my bike. I better take a bunch of new tropics to like rebuild my traumatic brain injury. Yep. Shit happens. And
1:33:17Speaker 0And so they're radically different personality. They're going after a different objective and that's going to change. But, good question guys.
1:33:25Speaker 0Listen, we, the, the coaching call is going to be Pacific standard time and we're going to be doing it on Thursday
1:33:33Speaker 0They will be recorded. I'm assuming we'll we'll put them on school, but like, if you wanna have some interaction,
1:33:40Speaker 0get on there because my goal with that is to motivate the shit out of you, man. I love talking about
1:33:47Speaker 0I love talking about discipline. I'm going to show you particularly how I went from sticking a needle in my arm to pretty successful guy who I think most would call successful and like that cultivated through discipline. Will will tell you there's times when I'm like a psycho about it because
1:34:03Speaker 0it's empowering dude when you like enforce discipline, man. And, we're going to talk a lot about the cultivation
1:34:08Speaker 0of how you do that, right? How do you build discipline? It's muscle like, right? Like you do hard shit, right? Like the red is great. Well, take the red out and don't eat when you're hungry. That's discipline.
1:34:20Speaker 0So yeah, we're going talk a lot about that and a heck of a lot more. We're going to start, we're also going to talk about business building.
1:34:25Speaker 0We're going to talk about cultivation of building a brand. It's not just a coaching program. We're going to get you in shape. Part's obvious. Want to get ripped, but like, let's build a bad ass life too.
1:34:45Speaker 0Listen, there's a lot of you Aussies that listen, I love it. There's a guy that's from Australia that we live with. He's great. You're probably listening to this man. Shout out to you. I saw him yesterday. Haven't seen him in a while and I had a son in there. It was awesome. Met a son.
1:35:07Speaker 0You want to get ripped. We'll help you get there. But we want to push you a little further. 4 Poor Rob had a yeah. Accidental
1:35:14Speaker 2block party on his hands at his house. When he came back for dinner the other day, they were gone for 4 weeks. They were traveling to
1:35:26Speaker 0And I was like, dude, you were living at a hotel for a month. Said, yeah. I said, that sounds like hell. I was there for a week. I'm like, yeah, well, so sick of this hotel.
1:35:41Speaker 0No, I forgot. That's how we do it, and that's how we do it. But, other than that, we will remember, do you like the guests? Do you like us to do a blend? Do you like the compounds talking about like that? We've been kind of straying away from that. Cause we've been busy with guests. We want feedback guys.
1:35:59Speaker 0Bad, ugly. We will read it into you won't offend us. Right? We got thick skin. And, other than that, we'll catch you in the next round later.