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0:09Speaker 0Welcome back to the pep time of the week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way like always,
0:26Speaker 0we my family met Will and his family and another buddy of ours and his family and just chilled. Will rented a, an RV by the right by the In the Newport Dunes. Newport Dunes. I did not know that it went off like that. It was a blast. It's all kids. My kids loved it. Was fun. That's a kid's paradise. I've been, I grew up going camping everywhere and I've never,
0:47Speaker 1I've never seen anything that's that close to as much fun for a kid. Because like Mason put his floaties on and like we were comfortable with him playing by himself because it's so shallow. Yeah. It was dope. It's shallow. It's so back in a bay. There's not a, not a hint of waves or anything. Right? Like, nothing crazy like that. There's no
1:09Speaker 1Oh, really? Until the yep. And then the lifeguard, like, all the kids were freaking out, and the lifeguard's like, they don't have these ones don't have tentacles. They cannot sting you. And then the kid's like, well, let's grab them and let's put them in a bucket.
1:23Speaker 1had the full water park right out in the middle of the bay, which you paddled out and I paddled out to several times to drop people off. Where with the, like, giant inflatable
1:32Speaker 0obstacle course Did you go on it? Loading. I didn't go on it. It was actually pretty difficult because it's so slippery. Oh, it looked We
1:38Speaker 0were trying to get Jax to go, and he didn't go. Yeah. Yeah. And then I went up on the top. Like, it would have been hard for him. I'm kind of glad he did it. It was hard for me to pull up because it's so slippery. Yeah. Yeah. But he's light. He might have been easier. I was looking at too. I watched Kate jump on there. Was like, oh damn, I was like, if you default, it's okay. She missed you later though. But,
2:01Speaker 1climb up the ladder on top of this thing and you can just whoop, slide down or just jump off the back. But
2:07Speaker 0it was a lot of fun. Chilled at the beach. We bought some steak food like that. We stopped by
2:14Speaker 0We love that place and it was amazing. Then they cooked some steaks. My kids were toast.
2:22Speaker 0fun. And now we are leaving tomorrow. The time has come like, holy moly, here we go. We've been planning this for a while and we leave tomorrow.
2:32Speaker 0it's going be a good trip by my bride stand. I'm a little kind of wishing she would just go in. She's my perfect travel partner, but
2:39Speaker 0be there by myself for a few days. It'll be cool. Never been in a different country by myself.
2:44Speaker 0It'll be different. I've never done it. I'm interested. I'm going to cruise around and just-
2:52Speaker 0become more a loader as I've gotten older. Like I picked up some of your, what you've kind of, I never thought of myself as like going somewhere. I could like do a backpack and
3:01Speaker 0just travel by myself. I never thought I'd ever be that type of person. I easily do that now. It's so fun. That's fun too. You got some experience. You, you, you're personal. You can meet friends along the way. I mean, that's,
3:20Speaker 0most of them speak multiple languages because there's so many close countries that they, know,
3:25Speaker 1So it's gonna be fun, man. I'm excited. Lot of fun. It'll be a lot of fun. We'll meet Genoshit. We'll meet Peter again. We'll say, well, I guess, say hello to Peter. Yeah. Troy Genoshit and maybe
3:38Speaker 1to do doing an episode basically like a deep dive on like a COA and the process behind COAs and like process behind testing
3:56Speaker 0wants to see ways as I should. And they, most of them don't realize that a lot of the ones that are up or old and like, so we're going to do deep dive wheels, great at it. So we're going to just present it. You all can make educated decisions on if you want to go cheap, if you want to like spend a couple extra bucks to go to the companies that actually do test every batch. And
4:14Speaker 0you do you. We don't care, but you do you. At least we will try to educate you as much as we can on
4:20Speaker 1knowing what are on those and then kind of deciphering if the ones are BS. You know what mean? And not just testing every batch, but testing every batch 3 times
4:48Speaker 0but yeah, we will go into it. It'll be really good. Well, it's been a blessing for us to be able to talk to some people that are, you know, in the know of that type of stuff and all roads from what they say are leading towards the company. They're to make it test.
5:01Speaker 0As you should, as they should, you know, like make sure that people are getting what they want. That's just obvious.
5:12Speaker 1industry, we either kind of band together the good players and not the shady characters and
5:37Speaker 0it and then it's no fun for anybody. Well, that's perfectly said. And the cool thing too is we were kind of briefly touching on it before we recorded in the world's office. Like, it's been such a blessing for us to talk, you know, be sit down with Josh, Holyfield, Trevor Cruder,
6:11Speaker 0safe and like what they're getting and like that's why they cost more because they're tested, you know? And like this, that's the way it is. You know what I mean? But at least everybody's cohesively
6:21Speaker 0almost on the same team where there's no competition. It's like, Hey, like how do we make this better? How do we, kind of streamline this process for the consumer? I love that. I love that we're a part of it. I just, how the hell did that happen? That's cool. Geez. I love it. Hard work and time and dedication to integrity
6:44Speaker 0Yeah. 2 weeks on a vacation, bro. 2 weeks on vacation. That's awesome, you deserve it. We were talking on Saturday. He's worked his tail off. He was here like late at night last night. So man, I'm excited for you to bounce and come back. Me too, almost hitched. Right, Almost hitched. Yes. All your old friends never thought they'd see the day. I know. And now it's- Now it's going.
7:05Speaker 1And like we were at the beach, like Alex's dad was there. Great guy. And a new girlfriend
7:12Speaker 1him. She was cool. Yeah. She was actually she was was cool, but- talked to him quite a bit. He's great guy. Yeah, he's a good guy. He's smart, and
7:20Speaker 1everybody's in support. I talked to River 1 last time before he left to go fishing with his his dad. He's going deep sea
7:35Speaker 1took some time like, alright. Hey. Come here. Listen to me. Pay attention for a sec because it's really hard with kids. And he did. I said, look. I am asking you your permission
7:52Speaker 1and you're her ultimate protector and will be for the rest of your life, right? But, so I'm asking you, hey, can I, is it okay with you?
8:00Speaker 1And he gave me like an overall yes. He's kid. Please do. Of course, yes. But like, he could be an asshole kid. Like, no. Right?
8:11Speaker 1And then I'd said, so what these implications mean, right, that I will, that this means I'm also going to be here for you to protect you and
8:24Speaker 1know, financially and advice and wisdom wise also. So like I'm making a commitment to you to be here for the rest of your life
8:51Speaker 1I didn't need in sales. But he's like, woah, wait, why don't you get, it'd be better if actually, he's right, but he doesn't understand
9:06Speaker 1You know what mean? They want the designer thing that doesn't really work good and why do I have it versus the thing that works really great but doesn't design it. You women are silly. Of course. I mean, yeah. I don't understand either, but I've learned. Silly women. So, yeah, man. That's it. I'm ready to go. And, I need the vacation, and I'm excited for it. Yeah, man. I'm excited for you too, bro. Well, good stuff. Well, we have an appointment right after this, so this is our last day before we're both splitting.
9:31Speaker 1Let's get us started. You wanna get the hormones off? Alright. Number 1. Hi. Huge fan. I'm 43 year old female on my road to optimizing my hormones. Yes. TRT.
9:40Speaker 1And cutting my peptide stack down to only what I need. Tend to add everything I hear about. Understand. Don't we all. Don't we all. Goals are lower body lower
9:56Speaker 1I train legs 3 times a week with progressive overload as a priority. I've listened to Q and A number 39 with Paul a few times. I thought he said it was okay to run HGH and cycles of IGF-one
10:09Speaker 1There's been some debate on school lately about this. If doing both is not safe, I'm leaning towards holding off on HGH and sticking to my IGF cycles,
10:21Speaker 1There I go adding stuff again. I also am very interested in starting the long play of HGH to reap those benefits.
10:34Speaker 0Great question though, dude. I like that question. That's great. I was reading it. That's great. I think it's a good question. The IGF-1and
10:39Speaker 1HGH question. Kind of curious to see what you're gonna say. Yeah, it's a debate. It's a legit debate and I'm glad that people are
10:46Speaker 1debating this. I'm sure talked about it, but don't remember if we We absolutely have. I think I do remember her.
11:00Speaker 12 different kinds of sections. We go, I'm trying to just remember these words, hypothalamus,
11:06Speaker 1your growth hormone then goes to So you introduce So that's the normal process, right? Is our brain, then our hypothalamus,
11:36Speaker 1the- Especially for a woman that's gonna work really well for her. Really well. And then the other,
11:52Speaker 1sees and hears about. Yep. So the only issue, it's like, will work better. If you take both of them, you are, it's not going to stop
12:01Speaker 1that IGF-one conversion. Right? Like a lot of, a lot of these things, if you take an IGF-one, it's not going to make, oh, now the exogenous HGH I'm taking is now not going to convert into IGF-one.
12:46Speaker 0Exactly. Gotta set all the time. It's because you're just amplifying the IGF-one portion of that.
13:09Speaker 1It's just, you're just hyper, you're just making the HGH muscle building portion a lot better. Yeah. And
13:24Speaker 1Like some people will get there's no, this is why it should be a debate, like everybody is different. I don't know what to tell you, but it may make some people
13:44Speaker 1I don't know. That's up to everybody, individual person. So I'm not telling anybody they should or shouldn't. And
13:58Speaker 0how long you do it matters. There's a lot of like things that are going to come into play. I've done it numerous times. I mean, I don't see you should or you shouldn't. Do it because I it's that's my goal at the time.
14:09Speaker 0I think it really depends on like ultimately what your goal is. You're 43, so most people over 40, in my opinion, probably need HGH. You know, you hear when I talk about it often, you know, and I'm just gonna speak for myself on this is I, that's just kind of the case. As we've said numerous times, it's a longer play. So the IGF-one,
14:28Speaker 0it's more of a, you're to run it for give or take like 2 months, if that it's a little bit for women's going to go a long way too, you know?
14:37Speaker 0So do you want to kind of gain muscle right now or do you want the benefits of what the HGH do? Because it's different. Know, you're going to, you got HGH, which is gonna do
14:48Speaker 0skin, it's gonna make your skin healthier, you're gonna sleep better. You know, collagen production
14:56Speaker 0I like all that. Right? When it comes to IGF-one, you're gonna, it's gonna help you build muscle. You know, like I do well with that already. So like, if that's your main focus, run it for 2 months and then start the HGH. I preferably would recommend you just jump to the HGH because it's a long play.
15:14Speaker 0I still think you could run a little bit IGF-one, but if you want to be really, really, really, really, really, really ultra safe,
15:20Speaker 0then don't do it. Just do the HGH. I think HGH is what I would recommend, but I hope that helped a little bit. I think it did. You seem like a smart gal questions. Very good question. There's the biggest point here. It's like, can debate that cold and say, Hey, here's the, ifs and whatnot ifs and
15:39Speaker 1I've done it and I will do it. I will not be, I'm not gonna be running like IGF-one constantly at a high dose,
16:20Speaker 1That's probably not smart. That's not good. But personally, I'm but I and I always tend to I think less is more on things, but I'm not scared to do
16:33Speaker 1And I have done it and I don't have any problems, but that does not go for everybody. Me too.
16:44Speaker 0Guarantee that. Well, HGH is going to take a while to work anyway. Absolutely. Yeah. It is. Might sleep better right away, but it's a longer play. So if you have runny yet, they, I just want you're chilling by the time, like you'll run it about what, 45 days to 2 months. And then it's done now.
16:58Speaker 0The HGH is kind of cruising, it's generally 4 to 6 months until you really notice it. Like Will said numerous times, you don't really notice it until you take it away. Why am I getting pudgy again? Well, you know, take a run-in HGH,
17:20Speaker 1Because, yeah, when we say it doesn't grow muscle as great, right? It's better for the
17:34Speaker 1I don't know, reshaping itself just because you're helped you can add more muscle. But, like, for a woman,
17:40Speaker 1adding muscle and keeping more muscle on you is going to really help your metabolism and burn fat faster. Plus it will work way better for building muscle than on a man. So I would choose just the HGH. There you go. All right. All right. Go ahead. So for my hubby, 69 year old male, 197 pounds, 30 years as an LEO,
18:07Speaker 0geez. And 1 bypass, 2 lower back surgeries looking at 0.333 coming up, man. Spinal canal is nearing and pushing on nerves,
18:39Speaker 0all mentioned above is job related. He started Retta a week ago to see if he would help with his type 2. How much Wolverine can he take with all these surgeries
18:49Speaker 0and where is the most effective injection to help all of them? God bless you. Love you too. That's awesome. Wow. That is your poor husband. He's been through this. He's only 30 years old as a law enforcement officer. That's
19:01Speaker 1No, he's 69 with 30 years in law. Oh, from a hub, he's 69. 30 years as a 30 years as He paid the price with that body. He's taken it. Hopefully he gets to retire soon. At 69, he should be able to. I believe he's retired. I think he's just going through it.
19:17Speaker 0Right. So he's going through it. And the question with all that being said was pretty simple. Like how much Wolverine can he take?
19:26Speaker 0Gosh, it sounds like he needs it. I always say when it comes to surgeries and Wolverine,
19:35Speaker 0tons if I ever have another surgery, hope I got it done. I will be taking probably even more than last time because it worked so well.
19:41Speaker 0So he can take a lot as we were recommending. Where would he do it? I had a microdiscectomy
19:48Speaker 0I didn't inject anywhere near my back. I did a sub Q and it worked amazingly. So I would just say,
19:55Speaker 0do high doses of Wolverine. What that means, it's kind of subjective. You could do a lot. You could do like a 10 mg bottle,
20:03Speaker 01 a day. I did a lot more than that, but that's quite a bit even in itself. You could do that. And in my opinion, be perfectly fine because it's just such a safe. Those 2 are so safe. And it will expedite his healing. It will. It will. So the more the merrier when it comes to that, I would imagine some people wouldn't agree with me, but I'm living proof I've done it.
20:24Speaker 1Yep. I would say it's just as dosing. Well, 1st of all, I don't want to touch anything else. Like he's got some other problems that we are not going to say, I'm not even going to touch. Right.
20:39Speaker 1Lowest effective dose is basically 0.5 of a milligram of each of those. I would absolutely do your best to inject as close to this, the actual injured spot. You know, with the back surgery, it's kind of hard to inject into your back. But if it's somewhere you can reach, I would absolutely get it close to the actual injury.
21:04Speaker 1jab it right in and go into the muscle. Or if you, let's say it's in your ankle, you can pinch it. You can pinch up some skin and then just go in sideways for it and get it into their sub q.
21:15Speaker 10.5 mgs of each is kind of the lowest possible effective dose. I wouldn't recommend doing that low.
21:26Speaker 1lot of milligrams. But I would say if I'm gonna be smart, I would go aim for, you know, thinking about budget for most people.
21:53Speaker 0yeah, there you go. Tell your husband, thank you for his service. We love police officers, firemen, veterans. We love them all. Hope he does well. Keep us posted.
22:03Speaker 1After finding your channel a year ago, I'm down from 2 55 to 1 70. Damn, that's a lot. That is tough. Thank you for all your help, but here's my question. My mother has diverticulosis
22:15Speaker 1with frequent flares since November. She's taking Levcin and Protonix once daily for stomach pain. She also has severe scoliosis and advanced age related degeneration
22:48Speaker 0That is a lot of weight. So good for you. Hope you keep going. Unless you're at your desired
23:08Speaker 0maybe start to work on her gut because I'm assuming she's taken a lot of medication and that stuff just jacks pharmaceuticals
23:42Speaker 0So we want to try to work on bringing her information down, at least keeping her as happy as possible
23:50Speaker 0it's unfortunate, man, she's going through that. Ain't going to fix that stuff. It's well above the pay grade of a peptide.
24:10Speaker 1is kind of, I read this up because obviously I didn't really know what that was, but it is almost like
24:21Speaker 1Where the lump. Yeah, a little lump that it like kind of pops up in its sack, I suppose.
24:27Speaker 1Oftentimes it says that, you know, most people get them as they age and most people don't even notice it
24:35Speaker 1Then there's the problem. That's the inflamed portion, which is what she says, if free has frequent flares, then, hey, it could be infected. It's swollen for sure. But like I would
24:51Speaker 0That would be my best suggestion. Also, we had discussed this last time and I don't know if everybody watches every podcast, you probably don't. So we talked on this and like oral
25:02Speaker 0peptides have a very bad rap. They do. And like, we get it. There's some that we've tried and they didn't work well, but like we, there are some that are great and
25:16Speaker 0they're objective. Those are for fixing your gut. And it doesn't mean don't do the injectable ones too, but I think everybody listening to this should be running those because the food we eat sucks, especially in America.
25:29Speaker 0If you're eating food in America, you're eating seed oils at almost every restaurant. Now there is a change out there that people are starting to cook with beef tallow.
25:42Speaker 0But do you agree? I think everybody listening to this should be running KPV and BBC corals because our guts are jacked and I know your
26:18Speaker 0Sometimes you got to take antibiotics. I don't think even like, you know, Doctor. Scott was on, he's telling me he's got something. I don't remember what he had, but he's like, I'm gonna actually have to take antibiotics,
26:27Speaker 0but he's gonna take some orals of both and, you know, TA-one and then, you know, some of the LL-thirty 7 and some of the things are gonna help with that stuff. So if you run
27:31Speaker 0pounds started microdosing Retta in April 24 and to date have lost 15 pounds. Feel good and getting confidence back. Awesome. I went from a yearly checkup and my LDL was high when I was 6 for the 1st time ever. Heard the recent podcast about LDLs being up well on Reta, but men were a reference, not women. Why is mine high and should I keep using or being alarmed? That was a great question. Yeah. That's awesome. I wouldn't be alarmed. I mean, I think that
28:07Speaker 1have you looked into T3 and T4 by the way? Hopefully, hopefully the doctor says like, those are, those are meds, but I take bodybuilders have been taking those things forever,
28:25Speaker 0lacking the explanation right now, but- It's basically when you lose weight, you know, and you're fasting, you lose too much, you're basically using that stored fat and that'll increase the LDL.
28:39Speaker 0you know, you're losing weight and sometimes you would lose weight too fast. You didn't gain it that fast. So like your body's got to kind of get through that part. It's not that big of a deal. I think you're going to be good. Losing weight is a good thing. You know? Now the 1 thing that jumped out at me was
28:53Speaker 0you're really focused on that scale and I'm not knocking you for it, but I would really stop looking at the scale as much as how do you feel? How do you use your bait? How does your waist, your buck, your belt buckle? Like I would stop trying to, I know we get so caught up, women
29:39Speaker 1Same answer goes for women. So yeah, keep doing what you're doing and I would agree. Don't worry about the scales too darn much.
29:46Speaker 1Take pictures of yourself, look in the mirror and then take another picture in the same spot, put tape on the ground,
29:51Speaker 1on the ground, speak your feet in the same spot, take pictures. That's really what you, that and how you feel. Absolutely.
29:57Speaker 0That's your best determinant. But when I was doing the training, I don't know if you did this because she was more like live for you.
30:03Speaker 0I would do 1 picture a week every Friday. Why? Because we don't want you to look at the scale every day. Like it's just a little bit of this, little of that's going to weigh it differently once a week. And then if you look at yourself a month later, you're like, wow, dude, I have, I look way different. You know, you see yourself every day. But if you look at yourself a month later from somebody else's viewpoint, damn, I've lost a lot of weight. So stop looking at the scale as much as you can. It'll work. Trust me.
30:35Speaker 1And is it a must? I'm a 44 year old woman and I've taken Sermorelin by itself and had great but then unheard 1 of your podcasts. It's best to take a GHR H and a GHRP paired for best results.
30:47Speaker 1Would you just not get your full benefits if taken alone? Thank you for clarifying. Love this podcast. Simply
31:02Speaker 1will enhance the benefit of the Sermorelin that you're taking right now. So Ipamorelin is basically
31:14Speaker 1It works through your ghrelin receptor. But it's not as strong as MK, so people don't really get the pronounced hunger
31:22Speaker 1it just so when your ghrelin receptor is going off, your body is it tells your body, hey, let's make some more natural HGH and we'll amplify the pulses.
31:42Speaker 1you know, at night, so night when you're sleeping, right as you wake up, and then I think 3 more throughout the day. The right as you wake up and at night, the at night 1 is the biggest pulse by far.
31:52Speaker 1That is why when we sleep, that's when we grow like most of our muscle back. Right? It's when we turn long term, short term memory into long term memory.
32:05Speaker 1is going to amp your body's your brain is already making the HGH because of the Sermorelin, and this is just gonna help amplify the pulse and push it out more.
32:16Speaker 1It work otherwise? Yes. It'll work otherwise still though. You can still just I mean, you've had great results with Sermorelin and awesome.
32:22Speaker 1Will work, but if you wanna add in the Ipamorelin, I bet you'll see a little bit better result on everything. Yeah. It depends on how long you've been using it. And again, there's quite a few secretagogues,
32:36Speaker 0Man, Tesamorelin, especially for the ladies is amazing. And I know we'll say Tesa Ipah,
32:40Speaker 0I think both, but like, yeah, like you're gonna increase the pulse. So you're gonna, it's gonna, you're gonna get more bang for your buck. So
32:48Speaker 1yeah, try another 1. And you don't always have to do, like, like you said, I would probably, I mean, I prefer Tesamorelin
32:54Speaker 1is superior. I don't even think I should I need to say I prefer. I think it just we could we could state for a fact that Tesamorelin is
33:09Speaker 1I see it laying a 10 mg Tessa plus a 3 mg Ipamorelin. Yeah. I have in the past recommended that that 1 for women just because they're sensitive to
33:35Speaker 1having a lower dose of Ipamorelin can cut down on the water retention if you happen to be prone to that. So play around with them. Play around with doses compared to each other. Right? You can buy Ipamorelin by itself or Tessa by itself or Sermorelin by itself.
34:43Speaker 0I've been listening to you guys about Kisspeptin and PT-one hundred 41. And I've been wondering if either of those would help with libido or if you would recommend something different.
34:54Speaker 0Curious about your guys' thoughts on this. Thanks for all you do. Good question, man. Yeah. Good question. Go ahead. So 100 Migs is great starting point. I mean, the doctors started you low and that's different from a lot of doctors that I know of. That's awesome. I think that might be too low.
35:10Speaker 0I mean, 600 total tests is good to know. What's your free test? Your free test is what's going tell you your libido. So without that,
35:19Speaker 0what is it? I hope to God he ran it. If he didn't, you need to get your free test because that's what's going to really show you. Now we talk about this all the time, but like there's other things that are going to play a role in somebody's libido.
35:43Speaker 0And like right now you said total test and there's all these other things that you didn't mention. I'm not knocking you. I'm just saying that
36:13Speaker 0again, I don't know if you are or not, but if you are, that could be a problem. And eliminating stress
36:20Speaker 0can help sleeping more. It help. I've talked about 1000000 times me getting back to normal sleep. Oh my gosh.
36:26Speaker 0Can't believe how like I was feeling for a while. I look at some other podcasts that I was doing and I knew that I wasn't sleeping.
36:36Speaker 0so man, that's radically going to help you. So you need to know the full picture right now. You gave us a piece of the picture and
36:54Speaker 0saying you should, you shouldn't, but he will run a deep, deep, deep panel and run a lot more to where we can kind of get to the bottom of it. To get to the Kisspeptin,
37:09Speaker 0I think that you, that's not the answer in my opinion. I think maybe just increasing the testosterone 100 mg is pretty darn low.
37:28Speaker 1better out the 180. Now my body's changing. Could tell, and I could tell that 180 market starting to need to be messed with. That's how you got to work it. That's how you got to work it. You got to kind of figure it out. I think the hundred's too low. Do you think? Yeah, I agree. I mean, everything you said is correct. Everything you said I agree with. If you have a doctor that's advising you of all of this and he has not ran your free testosterone, then you should find a new doc. They should know that. Hands down. That's where you use X-ray, man. Yeah. And like, yeah, we do need, I mean, your estradiol people. It's crazy how people will take an estrogen blocker, let for example, right, and take a little too much of it. Yeah. Stop. You need estrogen. Then be like, but but, hey, I'm taking all these tests, but I have 0 sex drive. What's It will kill it. Oh, yeah. It'll destroy
38:10Speaker 1Versus like high estrogen, you'll still have a sex drive, you just won't be able to perform. It'll like, stay up and then not really. Right?
38:21Speaker 0no sex drive. Don't care. Feel like shit. And you feel like shit and joints hurt. So, if you take too much tests too, like if you take too much tests, we've all done it. Absolutely.
38:30Speaker 0You're thinking you're going to like have a better sex drive because you're taking a lot more tests and it shoots up your estrogen.
38:40Speaker 0it takes a little bit of time now. Ideally, you have a doctor that knows hormones and they'll get to the bottom of it a hell of a lot quicker than a doctor that just throws out some blood work and like, Hey, what's your total test? I hope that dictates should you be on testosterone or an AI? I
39:07Speaker 0it's such a low dose. I don't think that you're going to need an AI at a TRT dose. Start going above 200 if you convert to estrogen like some guys do, some guys don't. You might. Like- Anything under that?
39:22Speaker 1But I would even if you're in a low dose, right, and you're having estrogen problems, like you 1st need to look at your diet.
39:33Speaker 1unhealthy. Like the simplest answer is I bet with, if starting to eat more meat and lifting weights,
39:45Speaker 1But that's not like, I'm not saying that on somebody who's actually taking a high dose and has estrogen. I'm talking about somebody who's a really low dose yet still has estrogen problems. It's like, yeah, there's something else going on there that can probably be fixed with food.
40:01Speaker 1And also, so it gets like, yeah, Kisspeptin, I don't know, man. Some people have said that, like, said that it will, it really helps their sex drive.
40:09Speaker 1I don't think it's that strong or worthwhile. And PT-one hundred 41, a 100%, dude. I don't think you do that. But that's not really what you're, like, it will mask the symptoms of no sex drive. Right? PT-one hundred 41 is good to to
40:22Speaker 1like, yeah, rev you up before sex. But like what you're looking for dude is to live. You're
40:33Speaker 0It, I don't remember who was on that said it, but I know that we both agree on it was,
40:38Speaker 0you know, you're 44 and like, we think, we start to think that we're just supposed to feel like shit and not have a sex drive and not have a libido
40:46Speaker 0because man, I just haven't had it forever. I guess when you get old, no, you are, we're supposed to definitely be horny. We're supposed to definitely have a clear head and we're supposed to feel great. That's just
40:56Speaker 0BS that we might've been sold. We are supposed to feel great, but it takes time to figure that stuff out. Like,
41:10Speaker 0You need to add in resistance training. Everybody needs to like you need to. And what's the 1 other thing, you know, I'm going ask how much protein are you eating? If you are not eating protein,
41:21Speaker 0that should be the base of your diet. I don't, I'm a carnivore for the most part. I'm not saying you need to do that, but I'm saying literally
41:41Speaker 0but eat a lot more protein. A lot of people don't, they eat a lot of carbs. And so a lot of those things come in play and they will actually
42:01Speaker 0That's different 1. Alright. But I hope that helps, man. I think you should at least increase the hundred mgs. I think that alone could fix it, but you need to do a deep panel. And if you don't know your free testosterone,
42:11Speaker 0that doctor didn't run it, find a different doctor. Find different doctor. That's like-
42:16Speaker 1Also, if you're on a massive calorie restriction, like let's say you're getting into Zepatide and you're just not eating and losing a whole bunch of weight, like just those nutrients that which which is exactly what we just talked about, but, like, those that absolutely contribute to you having a low sex drive. Absolutely. Alright.
42:33Speaker 1My turn or you? I think you're up. Alright. What's up, fellas? For some reason, I turned into the peptide guru at work. A question came up regarding peptides, MOTS-three in particular, and drug tests. My question is, do peptides come out in regular employment drug tests? If so, which peptides to look out for? If they don't, what could I tell them to ease them into feeling sure and confident that will not show up?
43:02Speaker 0Depends on what your job is, I guess, but- Sports, they contest for that and it costs a lot of money. So would your job do that? I highly doubt it. They wanna make sure you're not taking cocaine
43:17Speaker 1that's weird. Like, 1st of all, is taking MOTS-1s): against the rules of your work? Yeah.
43:35Speaker 1they've banned some peptides because they work and a lot of them, yeah, because maybe they enhance performance or
43:41Speaker 1they repair your body so damn well that you're going to be prepared for competition tomorrow. Like, dude, every job that you have, I can't imagine
43:49Speaker 1A) that you're not even allowed, I can't imagine you're not allowed to take those things. It's like, oh, you can't take a vitamin C. It's basically what the employer is saying. B) Absolutely
44:06Speaker 1Right? And think of the economics of that. Are they going to invest that much money into testing all of their employees
44:30Speaker 1they're going to have when somebody does test positive and they take some action against them because there's nothing wrong with these things. Can't imagine.
44:38Speaker 1Now dude, you're like a shit employee. Yeah, you're fine. They should be feeding you peptides in fact, actually to help your productivity. You've been everybody TA-one. Yeah.
45:06Speaker 0recently put down 7, put on 7 kg on Reta started with 1 mg weekly, then 1 big Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. So 3 mg in a week down 8 kg in 2 months
46:03Speaker 0long term by micro dosing Reta 0.5 and adding in both Tessa and Ipamorelin? I'm assuming muscle gains
46:17Speaker 0Kind of a vague question, but like, I would tell you, like the simplest thing here is like, when you go above the 1,200,
46:27Speaker 0why I want to figure out that you're 145 pounds in our weight and you should be eating more than that. You should be eating roughly about 145
46:40Speaker 1and you know, that's going to probably work out better for So yeah, quickly, quick, okay. Yes. The problem is the answer is absolutely yes. And
46:52Speaker 1right? I care more about the macro nutrients rather than calories because I can consume
47:08Speaker 1way different if I eat that much steak. Still talk like that though. Twinkies. Like, it's so
47:25Speaker 1At a 100 grams, you say a 100 grams of protein a day. Okay? That means you're getting 400 calories
47:43Speaker 1Where's the rest of it? No, incidentally, by the way, the conversion on fat is 9. So fats are really dense. So 1 g of fat contains 9 calories versus
48:04Speaker 1calories and you're only and you're eating 400, you're eating 0.333 of that is coming in protein. So do you do I would really look at your macros.
48:12Speaker 1Instead of calories? Instead of calories. I don't care about the calories. I would increase if you can set yourself a goal caloric weight, but I almost,
48:20Speaker 1I would challenge you that if you eat more than 1,300 calories, you gain weight. I think that that's a misconception.
48:26Speaker 0It's what you eat for sure. If you eat like more protein, you're not gaining that weight. And you're gaining weight, but let's say you might be gaining weight, but it's muscle and your body's going to look a whole lot different. Totally. Right? Completely different. Well, that's why I say, everybody like looks at the scale so much, like, well, how do you look? How do you feel? Like, even if you gain a little bit, but do you look more toned? Like it's not just the scale.
48:46Speaker 1just not. It's what's funny is I remember as being a trainer, you're not allowed to recommend anybody
49:08Speaker 1And I guess I may be wrong on this, but I think their lowest carb 1 was something like 60% carbs.
49:20Speaker 1your macronutrient prescription is always a guess and check 1st. Like, I don't know, let's guess, let's see how we do. Eat that for like 2, 3 weeks and let's see what your body does. Right? And then make some adjustments to it. But I would generally say something like, shoot, man, 40%
49:55Speaker 1prescription. But if you can do that and then you do that math for your 1,200 calories, it might be a good starting point.
50:02Speaker 1But yes, the problem is the BMR being at 1,200 calories. Okay? That's your basal metabolic rate. That's how many calories you burn in a 24 hour period and is heavily dependent
50:13Speaker 1adding in Tesa and Ampamorelin, you should keep muscle. In fact, you should hopefully be adding some muscle over time.
50:32Speaker 1And that is how you increase your metabolism. We don't want to really think of metabolisms
50:37Speaker 1as fast and slow. We want to kind of think of them as high and low. They are in number.
50:44Speaker 1so we need to increase caloric burn every way you can by frequent, small frequent meals and by adding muscle.
51:06Speaker 0No shocker. I'm trying to convince her to try it my way and use peptides. What would be the recommendation to start with?
51:13Speaker 02nd part, the doctor also has her on 4 megs a week of Wigovi and wants to bump her up to 9 megs a week. That sounds crazy to me. I convinced her to switch to Retta, but need to know how, how to safely transition it to her for her.
51:35Speaker 1All right. Try them oral. Like we talked about already. Why don't you maybe ask your, maybe you suggest how you transition from Tirzepatide
51:43Speaker 0to Retta? Yeah. I mean, I think at 4 megs, you're chilling. Like if she goes up to 9, I don't think that that's, that's a big freaking jump too. Like, woah, let's go to 9 to, let's go to 4 to 9. Yeah. That's a huge jump. Huge.
51:57Speaker 0And so no, I don't think that that's going to be the answer and think you know that. So I think you could just do a pound per pound, to speak, meaning just go right to 4 mgs of Retta. Is that perfect? Might not be. You
52:10Speaker 0could go slow and even start less. Now here's the thing. Your mom's been on to her appetite. She's going be used to her appetite. She's going to be used to not wanting to eat. That's not how we're supposed to be. We need food. We like food. We like hunger.
52:28Speaker 0So it might throw her off a little bit. So that's why I say go right into the 4 megs. Generally, I would say maybe start with a mega week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. But I think because she might be set on that feeling that Tirzepatide, just go 4 megs, make it easy. What are your thoughts? Do you think on that? I do think that something a little different? No.
52:48Speaker 1Make it easy, right? Yeah, I would make it easy. I would do the same thing what you just said. I have nothing unique to add there. Yeah.
52:56Speaker 1Right. Last question, rock and roll. I do want to read this 1. As always a huge, this last 1 is like super easy. As always, a huge shout out to you both for being such incredible men. I have a 5 year old Saint Bernard Rescue mix who has he was injured while in the care of a previous employer. She now needs surgery for severe
53:18Speaker 1Jeez, man. Dude. That's causing significant pain and will eventually lead to paralysis if left untreated. Jeez. Damn. I wanna give her the best chance at recovery and quality of life. I'm planning to use a Wolverine after surgery, but I'm sure unsure of the protocol. She weighs 125 pounds.
53:38Speaker 1Or would you recommend something different? I know she's only 5 years old, but as a giant breed, I also know our time together is never long enough. I wanna give her the very best chance at healing and the highest quality of life for the years she has left. For you. So good for you. Kind human. Which is very odd. Usually a spinal compression, right, that happens to 2 legged people, right, 2 legged animals because we walk,
54:04Speaker 1When you're on 4 legs, life's a lot easier. You have way less back problems. Yeah. Because all that weight is distributed within 4 things and our spines apparently just aren't really meant to do that. Yeah. To just push down. So
54:15Speaker 1that's I don't know what the hell these people did to this poor dog to cause that. I guess that's that's where I was Sounds like they needed that. Like, it sounds like they weren't very good. Not. Dude, for this big so there's there's there's a lot of kind of anecdotal studies out there. There's a lot of mice
54:49Speaker 11 Close. 1 Close to what I would basically what I would give myself. I gave him, I gave him 1 mg BPC and 1 mg TB-five hundred 3 days a week and it helped a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I can see it. It helps a lot. Have a friend who does the same thing.
55:09Speaker 1harmless. And they've done, they have done some tests and like realize plus dog's metabolism is a lot faster. So they'll push that stuff out of them. They do, they did a test on, on beagles with BPC and found like there's a 30 minute 0.5 life of the BPC is gone after that. And
55:25Speaker 1the absorption intramuscular is basically how you're going to go because you're to need to do it quick because 50%,
55:39Speaker 1But you can go higher. And the last 1 is surgery on my knee. I'm currently on Retatr BPC. How long do you recommend I'm off before the surgery or disclose or not disclose to anesthesiologist?
55:58Speaker 1He keeps you alive. He keeps you alive and you don't want to wake up on the table. You really don't want to wake up on the table. Yeah. Surgery.
56:04Speaker 1Seriously. Tell them the truth, dude. I mean, I don't know if you have to be off of them.
56:12Speaker 1I wouldn't be. I mean, BPC, I mean, geez. I mean, it's not, you're not pregnant, you know?
56:18Speaker 0Yep. What's up? Yeah. I mean, I don't think that you really need to, but just air on the safety. Just stop taking them until you just have it, and then you're done. Sure. It'll be you know, especially the red eye. I know they can slow the gastric emptying.
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57:10Speaker 0because I did it over years. I crunched it down where you're going to increase and you're going to increase and you do some 24
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