Peptide Q&A #51 – HGH vs IGF-1 LR3, Wolverine for Dogs, GHRH & GHRP Explained & Low Libido on TRT Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-51-hgh-vs-igf-1-lr3-wolverine-for-dogs-ghrh-ghrp-explained-low-libid/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:01 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 0:04 Speaker 0: The space to go further, to feel better, 0:07 Speaker 0: to do something you never thought possible. 0:09 Speaker 0: And this space starts with ultra fit. 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It fun. 1:22 Speaker 2: We met, my 1:24 Speaker 2: family met Will and his family and another buddy of ours and his family and just chilled. Will rented a an RV 1:31 Speaker 2: by the right by the In the Newport Dunes. Newport Dunes. I did not know that it went off like that. That was a blast. It's all kids. My kids loved it. Was Like that's a kid's paradise. Been I grew up going camping everywhere and I've never 1:44 Speaker 0: I've never seen anything that's that close to as much fun for a kid. Because like Mason put his floaties on and like we were comfortable with him playing by himself because it's so shallow. Yeah. It was dope. It's shallow. It's so back in the bay. There's not a, not a hint of waves or anything. Right? Like, nothing crazy like that. There's no 2:03 Speaker 0: well, I guess there is sea life. There were jellyfish. 2:06 Speaker 0: Oh, really? Until the yep. And then the lifeguard, like, all the kids were freaking out, and the lifeguard's like, they don't have these ones don't have tentacles. They cannot sting you. And then the kid's like, well, let's grab them and let's put them in a bucket. 2:18 Speaker 0: And then they had 2:20 Speaker 0: they had the full water park right out in the middle of the Bay, which you paddled out and I paddled out to several times to drop people off. Where with the, like, giant inflatable 2:29 Speaker 2: obstacle course Did you go on it? Floating. I didn't go on was actually pretty difficult. 2:33 Speaker 2: It's so slippery. Oh, it looked We 2:35 Speaker 2: were trying to get Jax to go and he didn't go. Yeah. Yeah. And then I went up on the top, like, would have been hard for him. I'm kind of glad he did it. Yeah. It was hard for me to pull up because it's so slippery. Yeah. Yeah. But he's light. He might have been easier. I was looking at too. I watched Kate jump on there. Was like, oh damn, you default. It's okay. She just, you made it though. But 2:55 Speaker 0: I mean, you know, there had 30 foot slides, just 2:58 Speaker 0: climb up the ladder on top of this thing and you can just whoop, slide down or just jump off the back. But 3:04 Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun. Chilled at the beach. We bought some steak food like that. We stopped by 3:10 Speaker 0: everything. 3:11 Speaker 2: Believe we love that place and it was amazing. Then they cooked some steaks. My kids were toast. 3:17 Speaker 2: So it was a good move to get them home, but super 3:19 Speaker 2: fun. And now we are leaving tomorrow. The time has come like, holy moly, here we go. We've been planning this for a while and we leave tomorrow. 3:28 Speaker 2: And so 3:29 Speaker 2: it's going to be a good trip by my bride, Stan, I'm a little kind of wishing she would just go in. She's my perfect travel partner, but be 3:37 Speaker 2: there by myself for a few days. It'd be cool. Never been in a different country by myself. 3:41 Speaker 2: It'll be different. I've never done it. I'm interested. I'm going to cruise around and 3:46 Speaker 0: bet you'll actually love it. Yeah. I've 3:49 Speaker 2: become a lot more of loner as I've gotten older. Like I've picked up some of your, what you've kind of, I never thought of myself as like going somewhere. I could like do a backpack and 3:58 Speaker 2: just travel by myself. I never thought I'd ever be that type of person. I could easily do that now. It's so fun. That's fun too. You got some experience. You, you, real personal, you can meet friends along the way. Mean, that's, 4:10 Speaker 0: if you, if you can smile at people. 4:14 Speaker 2: Other country people are super 4:16 Speaker 0: nice. They, 4:17 Speaker 2: most of them speak multiple languages because there's so many close countries that they, you know? So 4:23 Speaker 0: it's gonna be fun, man. I'm excited. It'll We'll be a lot of meet Genoshit. We'll meet Peter again. We'll say, well, I guess, say hello to Peter. Yeah. Troy Genoshit can maybe 4:33 Speaker 0: get some we are planning on giving to do doing an episode basically like a deep dive on like COA and the process behind COAs and like process behind testing 4:43 Speaker 2: for everybody. So that will be, I don't know, get some healthy, helpful input. Yeah. We were discussing that today and we were both, yes, let's do that because 4:52 Speaker 2: everybody 4:53 Speaker 2: wants to see ways as I should. And they, most of them don't realize that a lot of the ones that are up or old and like, so we're going to do a deep dive wheels great at it. So we're going to just present it. 5:02 Speaker 2: You all can make educated decisions on if you want to go cheap or if you want to like spend a couple extra bucks to go to the companies that actually do test every batch. And 5:11 Speaker 2: you do you. We don't care, but you do you. At least we will try to educate you as much as we can on 5:17 Speaker 0: knowing what are on those and then kind of deciphering if the ones are BS. You know what I mean? And not just testing every batch, but testing every batch 3 times 5:26 Speaker 0: is the way to go. Yeah. I mean, is 5:29 Speaker 0: is going to be the standard and should be the standard 5:34 Speaker 0: for research use only peptides. 5:37 Speaker 0: Now, we 5:38 Speaker 0: know some organizations that are working towards 5:41 Speaker 0: making that the actual standard. 5:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, we will go into it. It'll be really good. Well, it's been a blessing for us to be able to talk to some people that are, you know, in the know of that type of stuff and haul roads from what they say are leading towards the companies that are going to make it test 5:57 Speaker 2: well, 5:58 Speaker 2: as you should, as they should, you know, like make sure that people are getting what they want. That's just obvious. Yeah. Obvious. You know? So Yep. Yep. It's, 6:07 Speaker 0: right. I mean, it's like this 6:09 Speaker 0: industry, we we either kind of band together the good the good players and not the shady characters and and 6:16 Speaker 0: come up with a system to kind of self regulate, 6:19 Speaker 0: or 6:20 Speaker 0: we don't and let it continue devolve 6:24 Speaker 0: into chaos and then wait till Big Brother steps in and and actually 6:29 Speaker 0: has to and forces us, 6:31 Speaker 0: forces everybody to regulate 6:34 Speaker 2: it, then it's no fun for anybody. Well, that's perfectly said. And the cool thing too is we were kind of briefly touching on it before we recorded in the world's office. 6:44 Speaker 2: It's been such a blessing for us to talk, you know, be sit down with Josh, Holyfield, Trevor Cruder, 6:49 Speaker 2: Paul Bactiar, 6:50 Speaker 2: Jake Campbell. Gosh, I could probably keep going. And the coolest part of that is the 6:56 Speaker 2: heavy hitters, they all are basically want that. They don't heat as much as you would think that they would. They 7:02 Speaker 2: want 7:03 Speaker 2: to bring peptides to people. They just wanna make sure people are getting 7:08 Speaker 2: safe and like what they're getting and like that's why they cost more because they're tested. You know? And like this, that's way it is. You know what I mean? But at least everybody's cohesively almost 7:18 Speaker 2: on the same team where there's no competition. It's like, hey, like how do we make this better? How do we kind of streamline this process for the consumer? And I love that. I love that. We're a part of it. I just, how the hell did that happen? That's cool. Geez. I love it. Hard work and time and dedication to integrity 7:34 Speaker 0: and doing the right things. That 7:36 Speaker 2: is how. It's very true. 7:38 Speaker 0: Yep, that's great. And you got 2 weeks? 7:41 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2 weeks on a vacation, bro. 2 weeks on a vacation. And that's awesome, you deserve it. We were talking on Saturday. He's worked his 7:48 Speaker 2: tail off. He was here like late at night last night. So man, I'm excited for you to bounce and come back. Me too, almost hitched. Almost 7:56 Speaker 0: hitched. Yes. All your old friends never thought they'd see the day. I know. Now it's 8:01 Speaker 3: coming. 8:02 Speaker 0: And like we were at the beach, like Alex's dad was there. Great guy. And a new girlfriend. 8:08 Speaker 0: For 8:09 Speaker 0: him. She was cool. Yeah. She was actually she was cool. I talked to him quite a bit. He's a great guy. Yeah. He's a good guy. He's smart. And 8:17 Speaker 0: everybody's in support. I talked to River 1 last time before he left to go fishing with his his dad. He's going deep sea 8:25 Speaker 0: overnight fishing for tuna right now. It's pretty cool. 8:27 Speaker 0: Super cool. And, 8:30 Speaker 0: you know, kind of really laid down, 8:32 Speaker 0: took some time like, alright. Hey. Come here. Listen to me. Pay pay attention for a sec because it's really hard with kids. And he did. I said, look. I am asking you your permission 8:42 Speaker 0: to marry your mother. You've been with her longer than I have. She 8:45 Speaker 0: belongs to you more than she belongs to me. So, 8:50 Speaker 0: and you're her ultimate protector and will be for the rest of your life, right? But, so I'm asking you, hey, can I, is it okay with you? And he gave me like an overall yes. Yes, please do. Of course, yes. But like, he could be an asshole kid and be like, No. Right? 9:05 Speaker 0: Not that he's old enough to maybe do that, but yes. And then I said, so what these implications mean, right, 9:12 Speaker 0: that this means I'm also going to be here for you to protect you and 9:16 Speaker 0: guide you along your rest of your life, dude, for a long, long time, you know, financially and advice and wisdom wise also. So like I'm making a commitment to you to be here for the rest of your life 9:30 Speaker 0: and commit to you and through good or good times or bad times. 9:35 Speaker 0: You may not like it all the time, but I do this because I love you. 9:39 Speaker 0: Huge, huge commitment, man. He responded well and to then he told me the box that I have for the ring sucks and, 9:48 Speaker 0: And he didn't sales. But he's like, woah, wait, don't you get, It'd be better if and he's actually, he's right, but he doesn't understand 9:55 Speaker 0: designer 9:58 Speaker 0: women like designer things versus 10:01 Speaker 0: stuff that functions. You know what I mean? They want the designer thing that doesn't really work good and why do I have it versus the thing that works really great but doesn't design it. So You women are silly. Of course. I mean, yeah. I don't understand it either, but I've learned silly women. So, yeah, man. That's it. I'm ready to go. And, I need the vacation, and I'm excited for it. Alright, man. I'm excited for you too, bro. Well, good stuff. Well, we have an appointment right after this, so this is our last day before we're both splitting. 10:28 Speaker 0: Let's get us started. You wanna get the arm Alright. Number 1. Hi. Huge fan. I'm 43 year old female on my road to optimizing my hormones. Yes. TRT. 10:37 Speaker 0: And cutting my peptide stack down to only what I need. Tend to add everything I hear about. Understand. Don't we all. Don't we all. Goals are lower body lower 10:47 Speaker 0: goals are lower body gains as I age and as I continue to drop a few pounds with Reta. 10:53 Speaker 0: I train legs 3 times a week with progressive overload as a priority. I've listened to Q and A number 39 with Paul a few times. I thought he said it was okay to run HGH and cycles of IGF-one 11:06 Speaker 0: together. 11:07 Speaker 0: There's been some debate on school lately about this. If doing both is not safe, I'm leaning towards holding off on HGH and sticking to my IGF cycles, 11:16 Speaker 0: which I love, and adding PEG MGF. 11:18 Speaker 0: There I go, adding stuff again. I also am very interested in starting the long play of HGH to reap those benefits. 11:26 Speaker 0: I will totally nerd out if my question is picked. There you go, girl. 11:31 Speaker 2: Great question though, dude. I like that question. That's great. I was reading it. That's great. I think it's a good question. The IGF-1and 11:36 Speaker 0: HGH question. Kind of curious to see what you're going say. Yeah, it's a debate. It's a legit debate and I'm glad that people are 11:43 Speaker 2: debating this. I'm sure. Have. 11:46 Speaker 0: And 11:47 Speaker 0: I think I do remember her. 11:49 Speaker 0: So 11:51 Speaker 0: HGH 11:54 Speaker 0: gets broken 11:56 Speaker 0: down into 11:57 Speaker 0: 2 different kind of sections. So we go, I'm trying to just remember these words, hypothalamus pituitary, 12:03 Speaker 0: your growth hormone then goes to so you introduce so that's the normal process, right? Is our brain, then our hypothalamus, 12:10 Speaker 0: then pituitary 12:11 Speaker 0: tells our body to create natural HGH. Okay? So 12:15 Speaker 0: we skip that with regular HGH. Skip that brain portion and 12:19 Speaker 0: you get just the actual hormone. So 12:22 Speaker 0: 1 part of this goes into liver and is now creating IGF-one, 12:27 Speaker 0: right? IGF-one 12:29 Speaker 0: is there basically, that is what builds the muscle. That's the part of the 12:33 Speaker 0: Especially where it will work really well for her. Really well. And then also 12:39 Speaker 0: some of that stays as is, that's what helps kind of bones, 12:43 Speaker 2: skin, cartilage repair 12:45 Speaker 0: Yeah. All the antiaging 12:47 Speaker 0: benefits that everybody 12:49 Speaker 0: sees and hears about. Yep. So the only issue, it's like, 12:53 Speaker 0: will work better. If you take both of them, you are, it's not gonna stop 12:58 Speaker 0: that IGF-one conversion. Right? Like a lot of, a lot of these days, if you take an IGF-one, it's not gonna make, oh, now the exogenous HGH I'm taking is now not gonna convert into IGF-one. 13:09 Speaker 0: That ain't gonna happen. You're basically just going to 13:13 Speaker 0: double up on the IGF-one 13:15 Speaker 0: LR3. 13:16 Speaker 0: The 13:17 Speaker 0: so 13:18 Speaker 0: that's good. It will work extra good. You'll build muscle faster. 13:23 Speaker 0: The problem is the potential insulin. So, like, you can overdo it and have, like, hypo 13:29 Speaker 0: yeah, I have hypothyroidism 13:31 Speaker 0: in my 13:32 Speaker 0: brain now, but you can have 13:36 Speaker 0: decreased insulin sensitivity. 13:38 Speaker 0: Right? 13:39 Speaker 2: That's our biggest It's a lot of worry worry about HGH in general. 13:43 Speaker 0: Exactly. Gotta settle the time. It's so it's because you're just amplifying the IGF-one portion of that. 13:48 Speaker 0: You're amplifying 13:50 Speaker 0: and I guess, so it's 13:54 Speaker 0: that and then obviously 13:56 Speaker 0: things will grow faster. 13:57 Speaker 0: If you're a person who actually has cancer, 14:00 Speaker 0: adding IGF-one will make that grow faster. That's always a fear for everybody. 14:06 Speaker 0: It's just, you're just hyper, 14:08 Speaker 0: you're just making the HGH muscle building portion a lot better. 14:12 Speaker 0: And any negative, and so you're amplifying some of the negatives of HGH, 14:17 Speaker 0: but it's not a guaranteed bad thing. 14:21 Speaker 0: Like some people will get, there's no, this is why it should be a debate. Like everybody is different. Don't know what to tell you, but it may make some people 14:30 Speaker 0: go hypoglycemic 14:33 Speaker 0: and, 14:34 Speaker 0: I mean, not that easy, but prolonged high, high exposure, 14:38 Speaker 0: it will. 14:41 Speaker 0: I don't know. That's up to everybody, individual person. So I'm not telling anybody they should or shouldn't. And 14:47 Speaker 0: there's absolutely not a guarantee that bad things will happen if you take those. 14:53 Speaker 2: Of course, those messages matter 14:55 Speaker 2: how long you do it matters. There's a lot of like things that are gonna come into play. I've done it numerous times. I mean, I don't see you should or you shouldn't. Do it because I it's that's my goal at the time. 15:06 Speaker 2: I think it really depends on like ultimately what your goal is. You're 43. So most people over 40, in my opinion, probably need HGH. You know, you hear when I talk about it often, you know, and I'm just going to speak for myself on this is I, that's just kind of the case, As we've said numerous times, it's a longer play. So the IGF-one, 15:26 Speaker 2: it's more of a, you're to run it for give or take like 2 months, if that. 15:30 Speaker 2: It's a little bit for women's going to go a long way too, you know? 15:34 Speaker 2: So do you want to kind of gain muscle right now or do you want the benefits of what the HGH do? Because it's different. Know, you're going to, you got HGH, which is gonna do 15:45 Speaker 2: skin. It's gonna make your skin healthier. You're gonna sleep better. You know, collagen production 15:50 Speaker 2: recovery is gonna be better. That's HGH. 15:53 Speaker 2: I like all that, right? When it comes to IGF-one, you're gonna, it's gonna help you build muscle. You know, like I do well with that already. Like, if that's your main focus, run it for 2 months and then start the HGH. I preferably would recommend you just jump to the HGH because it's a long play. 16:11 Speaker 2: I still think you could run a little bit IGF-one, but if you want to be really, really, really, really, really, really ultra safe, 16:17 Speaker 2: then don't do it. Just do the HGH. I think HGH is what I would recommend, (1hexa): but I hope that helped a little bit. Think it did. You seem like a smart gal questions. Very good There's the biggest point here. It's like, people can debate that cold and say, Hey, here's the what ifs and whatnot ifs and 16:33 Speaker 2: if, what if, what if, if, what Personally, 16:36 Speaker 0: I've done it and I will do it. I will not be, I'm not gonna be running like IGF-one constantly at a high dose, 16:44 Speaker 0: you know, year round. I'm not gonna do, 16:47 Speaker 0: I'm not gonna do 5 cycles of IGF-one. 16:50 Speaker 0: I mean, I might do 3 cycles of IGF-1LR-three 16:53 Speaker 0: on top of consistent HGH use. Right? But I would limit it to, 16:59 Speaker 0: I mean, this is me. And again, I'm talking about myself. 17:02 Speaker 0: Right? 17:03 Speaker 0: I'd probably, the max I would do is maybe 3, 17:07 Speaker 0: probably 3 cycles of IGF-1a 17:09 Speaker 0: year, 3 to 5, but I won't run just IGF-one consistently 17:14 Speaker 0: with HGH behind it all year long. Right? That's probably not smart. That's not good. But personally, 17:20 Speaker 0: I'm but I, and I always tend to, I think less is more on things, but I'm not scared to do 17:27 Speaker 0: things multiple times and on top of each other. 17:30 Speaker 0: And I have done it and I don't have any problems, but that does not go for everybody. Me too. 17:37 Speaker 2: If work better, you'll get better results. You'll get, you'll gain more muscle, Guarantee that. Well, HGH is gonna take a while to work anyway. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, it You might sleep better right away, but it's a longer play. So if you haven't run it yet, they IGF-one, you're chilling by the time, like, you'll run it about what, 45 days to 2 months. And then it's done now. 17:55 Speaker 2: The HGH is kind of cruising and it's generally 4 to 6 months until you really notice it. Like Will said numerous times, you don't really notice it until you take it away. Why am I getting pudgy again? Well, she'd take a run-in HGH, 18:07 Speaker 2: so it works. Yeah, 18:09 Speaker 0: and if I was a woman and I had to choose between, 18:12 Speaker 0: if I were to literally choose, which 1 should I do? I would choose HGH just 18:17 Speaker 0: because, 18:18 Speaker 0: yeah, when we say it doesn't grow muscle as great, right, it's better for the 18:22 Speaker 0: like, anti aging effects and 18:25 Speaker 0: fat not really fat burning, but, like, enhanced 18:29 Speaker 0: metabolic in your body, 18:31 Speaker 0: I don't know, reshaping itself just because you're helped you can add more muscle. But, like, for a woman, 18:37 Speaker 0: you adding muscle and keeping more muscle on you is going to really help your metabolism and burn fat faster. Plus it will work way better for building muscle than on a man. So I would choose just the HGH. There you go. All right. All right. Go ahead. So for my hubby, 69 year old male, 197 18:54 Speaker 2: pounds, 30 years as an LEO, 18:57 Speaker 2: body is beat up from the feet up. 9. Yes, you read that right. 19:02 Speaker 2: Heart procedures, 8 stents, 19:04 Speaker 2: geez. And 1 bypass, 2 lower back surgeries, looking at 0.333 coming up, 19:09 Speaker 2: Spinal canal is nearing and pushing on nerves, 19:12 Speaker 2: torn bicep 19:14 Speaker 2: and ligaments 19:15 Speaker 2: in rotator cuff surgery 19:17 Speaker 2: is in September, 69. 19:19 Speaker 2: Well, 19:20 Speaker 2: and trigger finger surgery is pending broken ankle in March, moved his tibia 19:25 Speaker 2: up possible granting surgery for that as well on medications 19:30 Speaker 2: for heart, 19:31 Speaker 2: blood thinners, statin, etcetera, 19:33 Speaker 2: and meds for type 2 diabetes. Man, all mentioned above is job related. He started Retta a week ago to see if he would help with his type 2. 19:43 Speaker 2: How much Wolverine can he take with all these surgeries 19:46 Speaker 2: and where is the most effective injection to help all of them? God bless you. Love you too. That's awesome. Wow, that is your poor husband. He's been through since- Goodness. He's only 30 years old as a law enforcement officer. That's- No, he's 69, but 30 years in law. Oh, for my hubby, 69, 30 years. I was like, 30 out of snally. He paid the price for that body. He's taken it. He gets to retire soon at 69. He should be able to, I believe he's retired. I think he's just going through some shit. 20:14 Speaker 2: Right. He's going through it. And the question with all that being said was pretty simple. Like how much Wolverine can he take? Which my answer to that is a shit ton. 20:23 Speaker 2: Gosh, it sounds like he needs it. I always say when it comes to surgeries and Wolverine, 20:29 Speaker 2: how much can you afford? Like 20:31 Speaker 2: literally 20:32 Speaker 2: shit tons. If I ever have another surgery, hope I got it done. I will be taking probably even more than last time because it worked so well. 20:39 Speaker 2: So he can take a lot as we were recommending. Where would he do it? I had a microdiscectomy and 20:45 Speaker 2: I didn't inject anywhere near my back. I did a SubQ 20:49 Speaker 2: and it worked amazingly. So I would just say, 20:52 Speaker 2: do high doses of Wolverine. What that means, it's kind of subjective. You could do a lot. 20:58 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. The space to go further, to feel better, 21:04 Speaker 0: to do something you never thought possible. 21:06 Speaker 0: And this space starts with UltraFit. 21:09 Speaker 0: Unlike traditional running shoes, UltraFit gives toes more room to move naturally. So every step is strong, balanced, 21:16 Speaker 0: and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. Shop now at ultrarunning.com. 21:23 Speaker 0: That's altrarunning.com. 21:28 Speaker 1: The perfect lunch combo. 21:31 Speaker 1: That 1st bite of your favorite sub followed by ice cold Pepsi. Add a couple of friends, and now that's next level. Suddenly, the laughs get louder, the stories keep flowing, and the food tastes better because Pepsi brings out more flavor, more fun, and more of the moment. Food deserves Pepsi. Grab a Pepsi 0 Sugar today. 21:52 Speaker 2: You could do, like, a a 10 mg bottle, 21:55 Speaker 2: 1 a day. That's I did a lot more than that, but that's quite a bit even in itself. You could do that. 22:01 Speaker 2: And in my opinion, be perfectly fine because it's just such a safe. Those 2 are so safe. And it will expedite his healing. It will. It will. So the more the merrier when it comes to that, I would imagine some people wouldn't agree with me, but I'm living proof I've done it. Yeah. Yep. I would say it's just as dosing. Well, 1st of all, I don't want to touch anything else. Like he's got some other problems that we are not going to say, I'm not even going to touch. Right? 22:25 Speaker 0: But BPC, 22:26 Speaker 0: yeah, the Wolverine blend is 22:29 Speaker 0: harmless. 22:31 Speaker 0: Lowest effective dose is basically 0.5 of a milligram of each of those. I would absolutely do your best to inject as close to the actual injured spot. You know, with a back surgery, it's kind of hard to inject into your back, but if it's somewhere you can reach, I would absolutely get it close to the actual injury. 22:48 Speaker 0: If it's, let's say, an ankle where there's no you can put it intramuscular 22:52 Speaker 0: near the injury. Right? Let's say shoulder, you can just jab 22:56 Speaker 0: it right in, go into the muscle. Or if you let's say it's in your ankle, you can Pinch it. You can pinch up some skin and then go in sideways for and get it into their sub q. 23:05 Speaker 0: Both will work. 23:07 Speaker 0: 0.5 mgs of each is kind of the lowest possible effective dose. I wouldn't recommend doing that low. 23:14 Speaker 0: And again, like Jay said, up to 23:17 Speaker 0: a lot of milligrams. 23:19 Speaker 0: But I would say if I'm gonna be smart, go aim for, you know, thinking about budget for most people. 23:25 Speaker 0: I'd probably aim for about 2 mgs of each daily, 23:31 Speaker 0: you know, for at least 30 days post surgery. 23:34 Speaker 0: Then dude, you could do it day at night. Could do 3 days a week out as maintenance, 23:38 Speaker 0: to like feel, 23:39 Speaker 0: feel better, looser, less pain, less inflammation, etcetera. That's what I do. But 23:45 Speaker 2: yeah, there you go. Tell your husband, thank you for his service. We love police officers, firemen, veterans. We love them all. So hope he does well. Keep us posted. All right. After finding your channel a year ago, I'm down from 2 55 to 170. 23:59 Speaker 0: Damn, that's a lot. That is Thank you for all your help, but here's my question. My mother has diverticulosis 24:07 Speaker 0: with frequent flares since November. She's taking Levcin and Protonix once daily for stomach pain. She also has severe scoliosis and advanced age related degeneration 24:18 Speaker 0: of the lumbar spine, especially at the L-5S-one 24:23 Speaker 0: with arthritis of multiple facet joints and narrowing of the openings where spinal nerves exist. 24:29 Speaker 0: Are there any peptides you would recommend I start her on? 24:33 Speaker 2: Let me take it. Yeah, I mean, go ahead. Yes, please. So congratulations 24:37 Speaker 2: on you, girl. You're losing so much weight. That is awesome. 24:41 Speaker 2: That is a lot of weight. So good for you. Hope you keep going. Unless you're at your desired 24:46 Speaker 2: weight. 24:48 Speaker 2: Now for your mom, unfortunately, that's some heavy stuff, 24:51 Speaker 2: for her back peptides aren't going to do anything for that. I'm sure, you know, the best thing I would recommend is just to keep the inflammation down, 25:00 Speaker 2: maybe start to work on her gut because I'm 25:03 Speaker 2: assuming she's taken a lot of medication and not stuff just Jack's pharmaceuticals 25:07 Speaker 2: jack up our gut. So I'm going to say 25:10 Speaker 2: KPV and 25:12 Speaker 2: BPC orals for the gut. 25:15 Speaker 2: Now you, she can run a 25:18 Speaker 2: glow if 25:20 Speaker 2: she really wants to, or she can break it up and do the Wolverine, 25:24 Speaker 2: right? Like we had said on the last podcast, 25:27 Speaker 2: because you can do a lot of that. 25:29 Speaker 2: Then I'm going to add in the TA-one because that's really good for inflammation. 25:34 Speaker 2: So we want to try to work on bringing her information down, at least keeping her as happy as possible and work on her gut because the spinal stuff, 25:42 Speaker 2: it's unfortunate, man, she's going through that. I ain't going to fix that stuff. It's well above the pay grade of a peptide. 25:48 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So fix your gut, 25:51 Speaker 2: bring down inflammation. 25:52 Speaker 2: TA-one will be good for immunity as well. 25:55 Speaker 0: I think that will work. Yeah. Think that'd be about the extent as I would say also, 26:01 Speaker 0: diverticulosis 26:02 Speaker 0: is kind of, I read this up because obviously I didn't really know what that was, but it is almost like 26:09 Speaker 0: a hernia in your- Intestines. Intestines. 26:13 Speaker 0: Where the lump. Yeah, a little lump that it like kind of pops up in its sack, I suppose. 26:18 Speaker 0: Oftentimes it says that most people get them as they age most people don't even notice it 26:24 Speaker 0: until it becomes into diverticulitis. 26:27 Speaker 0: Then there's a problem. That's the inflamed portion, which is she says, if free has frequent flares, then, Hey, it could be infected. It's swollen for sure. But like I would 26:37 Speaker 0: do yes, fix your gut. I mean, I would just attack the gut. That's it. 26:41 Speaker 0: KPV BPC. 26:43 Speaker 2: That would be my best suggestion. Also, had discussed this last time and I don't know if everybody watches every podcast and probably don't. So we talked on this and like oral 26:54 Speaker 2: peptides have a very bad rap. They do. And like we get it. There's some that we've tried and they didn't work well, but like we, there are some that are great and 27:04 Speaker 2: oral KPV 27:06 Speaker 2: and oral BPC, 27:08 Speaker 2: they're objective. Those are for fixing your gut. It doesn't mean don't do the injection ones too, but I think everybody listening to this should be running those because the food we eat sucks, especially in America. 27:21 Speaker 2: If you're eating food in America, you're eating seed oils at almost every restaurant. Now there is a change out there that people are starting to cook with beef tallow 27:30 Speaker 2: and I ate those restaurants and I'd eat at those often. 27:34 Speaker 2: But do you agree? I think everybody listening to this should be running KPV and BBC corals because our guts are jacked. 27:42 Speaker 2: I know you're 27:43 Speaker 2: seeing what my bride does, I do. 27:46 Speaker 0: Brain access is just such a vital thing to be working correctly 27:51 Speaker 0: in everyone's lives. And yes, BPC and KPV are 2 of the orals that like 27:56 Speaker 0: that work that 27:58 Speaker 0: actually do their job and are probably, and are better for the gut if taken 30:54 Speaker 2: your buck, your belt buckle? Like I would stop trying to, I know we get so caught up, especially women 30:59 Speaker 2: on what you weigh, but how do you feel and really focusing on that? 31:05 Speaker 2: That's what I would say, but no, I think that you don't need to worry about that 31:09 Speaker 2: at all. TRT 31:11 Speaker 0: could shift your 31:12 Speaker 0: lipid panel as well. But 31:15 Speaker 0: plus that 106 31:17 Speaker 0: is 31:18 Speaker 0: not, I mean, is not that concerning. 31:21 Speaker 2: Yeah. 31:22 Speaker 0: From doctor's standpoint. There is no difference that like, 31:26 Speaker 0: there is no difference between the sexes on 31:29 Speaker 0: that affecting you. 31:31 Speaker 0: Same answer goes for women. So yeah, keep doing what you're doing and I would agree. Don't worry about the scales too darn much. 31:37 Speaker 0: Take pictures of yourself, look in the mirror and then take another picture in the same spot, put tape on the ground, 31:43 Speaker 0: tape on the ground, spank your feet in the same spot, 31:45 Speaker 0: take pictures. That's really what you, that and how you feel. Absolutely. 31:48 Speaker 2: That's your best determinant. When I was doing the training, I don't know if you did this because she was more like live for you, but like I would do 1 picture a week every Friday. Why? Because we don't want you to look at the scale every day. Like it's just a little bit of this, little of that's going to weigh it differently once a week. And then if you look at yourself a month later, you're like, wow, dude, I have, I look way different. You know, you see yourself every day. If you look at yourself a month later from somebody else's viewpoint, you're like, damn, I've lost a lot of weight. So stop looking at the scale as much as you can. It'll work. Trust me. 32:20 Speaker 0: Agree. All right, mom. Can you explain why you should take a GHRH 32:25 Speaker 0: and a GHRP together? 32:27 Speaker 0: And is it a must? I'm a 44 year old woman and I've taken Sermorelin by itself and had great results, but then unheard 1 of your podcasts. It's best to take a GHR H and a GHRP paired for best results. 32:40 Speaker 0: Would you just not get your full benefits if taken alone? Thank you for clarifying and love this podcast. Simply- 32:46 Speaker 2: Up at Will's alley right here. Yeah. 32:48 Speaker 0: I mean, I'll give you the 32:50 Speaker 0: simple answer is it 32:54 Speaker 0: will enhance the benefit of the Sermorelin that you're taking right now. So Ipamorelin is basically what you would, 33:00 Speaker 0: add to it. Right? Ipamorelin works the same way as MK-six 77 does. 33:06 Speaker 0: It works through your ghrelin receptor. So but it's not as strong as MK, so you don't people don't really get the pronounced hunger 33:12 Speaker 0: from that. But it just so when your ghrelin receptor is going off, your body is it tells your body, Hey, let's make some more natural HGH and we'll amplify the pulses. 33:25 Speaker 0: So our body 33:27 Speaker 0: produces HGH in 5 or 6 pulses throughout the day. Everybody's a little bit different, but generally, 33:33 Speaker 0: you know, at night, so night when you're sleeping, right as you wake up, and then I think 3 more throughout the day, the right as you wake up and at night, the at night 1 is the biggest pulse by far. 33:44 Speaker 0: That is why when we sleep, that's when we grow like most of our muscle back, right? It's when we turn long term, short term memory into long term memory. 33:54 Speaker 0: Will 33:55 Speaker 0: And adding the Ipamorelin 33:56 Speaker 0: is going to amp your body's your brain is already making the HGH because of the Sermorelin, and this is just gonna help amplify the pulse and push it out more. 34:06 Speaker 0: There you go. Will it work otherwise? Yes. It'll work otherwise still though. You can still just, I mean, you've had great results with Sermorelin and awesome. 34:14 Speaker 0: It will work, but if you wanna add in the Ipamorelin, I bet you'll see a little bit better result on everything. Yeah. It depends on how long you've using it. And again, there's quite a few secretagogues, 34:23 Speaker 2: so shit, switch it up. Like I wouldn't use Cimarron every time, 34:28 Speaker 2: man. Tesamorelin, especially with the ladies is amazing. And I know we'll say Tesa Ipah. I think both, but like, yeah, like you're going to increase the pulse. So you're gonna, it's gonna, you're gonna get more bang for your buck. 34:40 Speaker 0: Yeah, try another 1. And you don't always have to do, like, like you said, I would probably, I mean, I prefer Tesamorelin 34:45 Speaker 0: is superior. I don't even think I should I need to say I prefer. I think it just we we could state for a fact that Tesamorelin is 34:52 Speaker 0: superior. 34:54 Speaker 0: There's Tesamorelin 34:55 Speaker 0: mixed with Ipamorelin at equal doses. For example, like a 5 mg plus 5 mg. 35:00 Speaker 0: I see it laying a 10 mg Tessa plus a 3 mg Ipamorelin. Yeah. I have in the past recommended that that 1 for women just because they're sensitive to 35:10 Speaker 0: HGH 35:11 Speaker 0: and its effect on water retention. 35:14 Speaker 0: Okay? And the Ipamorelin 35:16 Speaker 0: you know, contributes to that. So having the full dose of Tesamorelin, which is great because you're getting all your belly fat burning and your 35:24 Speaker 0: organ fat burning, 35:26 Speaker 0: but 35:27 Speaker 0: having lower dose of Ipamorelin can cut down on the water retention if you happen to be prone to that. So play around with them. Play around with doses compared to each other. Right? You can buy Ipamorelin by itself or Tessa by itself or Sermorelin by itself. 35:40 Speaker 0: See what you like. 35:42 Speaker 0: Generally, the same dosing. I'd say, you know, Ipamorelin starts at, like, 0.0 35:47 Speaker 0: 0.25 35:47 Speaker 0: mil micro or 0.25 mg 35:51 Speaker 0: daily 35:52 Speaker 0: for a woman 35:53 Speaker 0: up to 35:54 Speaker 0: maybe a full milligram for 35:57 Speaker 0: a woman. 35:58 Speaker 2: Yeah. 35:59 Speaker 2: All 36:01 Speaker 2: right. I'm 36:03 Speaker 2: a 44 year old, 2 13 pounds, and I've always struggled with libido. 36:08 Speaker 2: I started TRT in February and 36:12 Speaker 2: I'm currently at what my doctor calls normal. 36:15 Speaker 2: Testosterone is 600. 36:17 Speaker 2: I'm taking 100 megs 1 time a week. I also on 2.5 36:22 Speaker 2: of tirzepatide 36:23 Speaker 2: for weight loss. My wife and I thought that fixing my low T would fix my libido 36:30 Speaker 2: as did my doctor, but I have noticed 0 difference in my libido. 36:35 Speaker 2: I've been listening to you guys about Kisspeptin and PT-one hundred 41. 36:40 Speaker 2: And I've been wondering if either of those would help with libido or if you would recommend something different. 36:46 Speaker 2: Curious about your guys' thoughts on this. Thanks for all you do. Good question, man. Yeah. Good question. Go ahead. So 100 Migs is great starting point. I mean, the doctors started you low and that's different from a lot of doctors that I know of. That's awesome. I think that might be too low. 37:02 Speaker 2: I mean, 600 total tests is good to know. What's your free test? Your free test is what's going to tell you your libido. So without that, 37:11 Speaker 2: what is it? I hope to God he ran it. If he didn't, you need to get your free test because that's what's going to really show you. Now we talk about this all the time, but like there's other things that are going to play a role in somebody's libido. 37:22 Speaker 2: It's a free testosterone, 37:24 Speaker 2: total testosterone, esta diol prolactin 37:26 Speaker 2: thyroid. 37:27 Speaker 2: If 37:28 Speaker 2: you're not sleeping, 37:30 Speaker 2: if you're stressed, 37:32 Speaker 2: we are this big science project. 37:34 Speaker 2: And like right now you said total test and there's all these other things that you didn't mention. I'm not knocking you. I'm just saying that 37:42 Speaker 2: this is what's going to help us see what your, why is your libido 37:46 Speaker 2: low? 37:48 Speaker 2: Stress 37:49 Speaker 2: is a mofo. No sleep is a mofo. 37:54 Speaker 2: Are even going to outrun 37:56 Speaker 2: your hormones, your testosterone if you're not sleeping enough. 38:00 Speaker 2: If you're stressed and people die from being too stressed, like it will, 38:05 Speaker 2: know, so again, I don't know if you are or not, but if you are, that could be a problem in eliminating stress 38:11 Speaker 2: can help sleeping more. It help. I've talked about 1000000 times, me getting back to normal sleep. Oh my gosh. 38:18 Speaker 2: Can't believe how like I was feeling for a while. I look at some other podcasts that I was doing and I knew that I wasn't sleeping. I look dead dog tired. And I remember being 38:28 Speaker 2: so man, that's radically going to help you. So you need to know the full picture right now. You gave us a piece of the picture and 38:36 Speaker 2: that, so if your doctor 38:39 Speaker 2: hasn't 38:40 Speaker 2: done the full panel, 38:41 Speaker 2: you need a full panel, you know, and you can call Doctor. Scott, not 38:45 Speaker 2: saying you should, you shouldn't, but he will run a deep, deep, deep panel and run a lot more to where we can kind of get to the bottom of it. To get to the Kisspeptin, 38:55 Speaker 2: I don't know. It works, It works upstream, so it's a little bit different. Think that you're probably, 39:01 Speaker 2: I think that you, that's not the answer in my opinion. I think maybe just increasing 39:06 Speaker 2: the testosterone. 39:07 Speaker 2: 100 mg is pretty darn low. 39:10 Speaker 2: Generally speaking, 150 is 39:14 Speaker 2: of low for some. Again, 39:16 Speaker 2: I've talked about my sweet spot forever, 180, I've run 150 and 200 and 39:20 Speaker 2: right around the 180. Now my body's changing. Could tell, and I could tell that 180 mark is starting to need to be messed with. That's how you got to work it. That's you how got to work it. You got to kind of figure it out. I think the hundred's too low. Do you think? Yeah, I agree. I mean, everything you said is correct. Everything you said, I agree with. If you have a doctor that's advising you of all of this and he has not ran your free testosterone, then you should find a new doc. They should know hands down. That's where you use X-ray, man. And, like, yeah, we do need I mean, your estradiol people, it's crazy how 39:47 Speaker 0: people will take an estrogen blocker, let's for example, right, and take a little too much of it. Yeah. Stop. You need a And then be like, but but, hey, I'm taking all these tests, but I have 0 sex drive. What's will kill it. Oh yeah, it'll destroy 40:00 Speaker 0: your sex drive immediately. 40:02 Speaker 0: Versus like high estrogen, you'll still have a sex drive. You just won't be able to perform. It'll like, stay up and then not really. Right? 40:11 Speaker 0: But no estrogen, 40:12 Speaker 2: no sex drive. Don't care. You feel like shit. Feel like shit, your joints hurt. So- And if you take too much tests too, like if you take too much tests, we've all done it. Absolutely. 40:22 Speaker 2: You're thinking you're going to like have a better sex drive because you're taking a lot more tests and it shoots up your estrogen. 40:28 Speaker 2: Like, it's a science project. These things are not an easy, 40:31 Speaker 2: it takes a little bit of time. Now, you have a doctor that knows hormones 40:36 Speaker 2: and they'll get to the bottom of it a hell of a lot quicker than a doctor that just throws out a blood, some blood work and like, Hey, what's your total test? I hope that dictates, 40:45 Speaker 2: should you be on testosterone or an AI? I 40:48 Speaker 2: don't think anybody under 200 mg needs an AI. 40:51 Speaker 2: And that's changed for me, 40:53 Speaker 2: in recent years, because we, I, you know, I just don't think you're going to really, you're just, it's such a low dose. I don't think that you're going to need an AI at a TRT dose. You start going above 200 if you convert to estrogen, 41:07 Speaker 2: like some guys do, some guys don't, you might, like, 41:11 Speaker 0: are extremely 41:12 Speaker 0: prone to estrogen. 41:14 Speaker 0: But what I would, even if you're in a low dose, right? And you're having estrogen problems, like you 1st need to look at your diet. 41:20 Speaker 0: Absolutely. 41:21 Speaker 0: That's going to be the 1st thing. Just like start, you're probably just unhealthy. 41:26 Speaker 0: Like the simplest answer is I bet with, if starting to eat more meat and lifting weights, 41:34 Speaker 0: that estrogen will go away. 41:37 Speaker 0: But that's like, I'm not saying that on somebody who's actually taking a high dose and has estrogen. I'm talking about somebody who's really low dose yet still has estrogen problems. It's like, yeah, there's something else going on there that can probably be fixed with food. 41:53 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 41:55 Speaker 0: The space to go further, 41:57 Speaker 0: to feel better, to do something you never thought possible, 42:01 Speaker 0: and this space starts with Ultra Fit. Unlike traditional running shoes, Ultra Fit gives toes more room to move naturally, so every step is strong, balanced, 42:11 Speaker 0: and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. 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You're 43:14 Speaker 0: looking for a real fix, you know, and you should be able to attain that fix. 43:20 Speaker 2: Was it, I don't remember who was on that said it, but I know that we both agree on it was, 43:25 Speaker 2: you're 44 and like, we think we start to think that we're just supposed to feel like shit and not have a sex drive and not have a libido 43:32 Speaker 2: because man, I just haven't had it forever. I guess when you get old, no, you are. We're supposed to definitely be horny. We're supposed to definitely have a clear head and we're supposed to feel great. That's just 43:43 Speaker 2: BS that we might've been sold. It, we are supposed to feel great, but it takes time to figure that stuff out. Like, 43:49 Speaker 2: that's a tiny piece of the picture. How are you eating? 43:52 Speaker 2: How much weight do you need to lose your ontorsepatide? 43:55 Speaker 2: Are you lifting weights? 43:56 Speaker 2: You need to add in resistance training. Everybody needs to like you need to. 44:02 Speaker 2: And what's the 1 other thing, you know, I'm going to ask how much protein are you eating? 44:06 Speaker 2: You are not eating protein, 44:08 Speaker 2: that should be the base of your diet. I don't, I'm a carnivore for the most part. I'm not saying you need do that, but I'm saying literally 44:15 Speaker 2: you need to strive for a pound, a gram 44:18 Speaker 2: per pound, 44:19 Speaker 2: at least we'll say 2. I mean, 44:22 Speaker 2: it's been. Like, it's definitely like, you will like kick ass if you are to, 44:27 Speaker 2: but eat a lot more protein. A lot of people don't, they eat a lot of carbs. And so a lot of those things come in play and they will actually 44:36 Speaker 2: affect your 1 hormones. 44:38 Speaker 2: So it's a big, 44:40 Speaker 0: There's couple of person that said his doctors all said, he's like 44:43 Speaker 2: telling to bump up to 9 megs of, No, there's just 0 that. That's a different 1. That's different 1. But, 44:49 Speaker 2: that hope that helps, man. I think you should at least increase the a 100 megs. I think that alone could fix it, but you need to do a deep panel. If you don't know your free testosterone, 44:58 Speaker 2: that doctor didn't run it, find a different doctor. Find different doctor. That's like- 45:03 Speaker 0: Also, if you're on a massive calorie restriction, like let's say you're getting into Zepatide and you're just not eating and losing a whole bunch of weight, like just those nutrients that which which is exactly what we just talked about. But, like, those that absolutely will contribute to you having a low sex drive. Absolutely. Alright. 45:18 Speaker 2: Okay. Good stuff. 45:19 Speaker 0: My turn or you? I think you're up. Alright. What's up, fellas? For some reason, I turned into the peptide guru at work. A question came up regarding peptides, MOTS c in particular, and drug tests. My question is, do peptides come out in regular employment drug tests? If so, which peptides to look out for? If they don't, what could I tell them to ease them into feeling sure and confident that will not show up? Thanks. 45:46 Speaker 0: Hope you 45:48 Speaker 2: Depends on what your job is, I guess, but- Sports, they contest for that and it costs a lot of money. So would your job do that? I highly doubt it. They wanna make sure you're not taking cocaine 45:58 Speaker 2: or something like that. I don't think they care about BPC-one hundred 57. If they do, 46:03 Speaker 0: that's weird. So like, 1st of all, taking MOTS-1si against the rules of your work? Yeah. 46:08 Speaker 0: Well, that'd be my question because it's not illegal. It's not against 46:13 Speaker 0: can't think of, 46:15 Speaker 0: I mean, you know, again, like you said, like WADA, which is the world anti 46:19 Speaker 0: doping agency or something like that. 46:22 Speaker 0: They've banned some peptides because they work and a lot of them, yeah, because maybe they enhance performance or they repair 46:29 Speaker 0: your body so damn well that you're going to be prepared for competition tomorrow. Like, dude, every job that you have, I can't imagine 46:36 Speaker 0: a, that you're not even, I can't imagine you're not allowed to take those things. Like, oh, you can't take a vitamin C. It's basically what the employer is saying. B, 46:44 Speaker 0: absolutely not. They're not tested. There's no way. It would take a very specialized 46:49 Speaker 0: drug test, 46:51 Speaker 0: very specialized 46:52 Speaker 0: and expensive, 46:53 Speaker 0: right? And think of the economics of that. Are they going to invest that much money 46:57 Speaker 0: into testing all of their employees 47:00 Speaker 0: for all of these, for 150 47:03 Speaker 0: different peptides. 47:04 Speaker 0: You live with it? You I'm saying? You 47:06 Speaker 0: tested for NAD. We're obsessed with NAD. 47:10 Speaker 0: The financial implications that that would cause them, 47:14 Speaker 0: not to mention the legal problems 47:17 Speaker 0: they're going to have when somebody does test positive and they take some action against them because there's nothing wrong with these things. Can't imagine. 47:25 Speaker 0: No, dude, you're Yeah, 47:27 Speaker 0: you're fine. They should be feeding you peptides in fact, actually to help your productivity. Mean everybody TA-1R1? Yeah. 47:33 Speaker 2: Alright. 47:34 Speaker 2: Ron's sick again. Everybody get on your TA-one. 47:38 Speaker 2: Right. 46 year old female hormones are good. 47:43 Speaker 2: All bloods, 47:44 Speaker 2: vitamins, or minerals are perfect. Gastric sleeve 3 years ago was 114 47:50 Speaker 2: kg, 47:50 Speaker 2: got to 67 47:52 Speaker 2: kg, 47:53 Speaker 2: recently put down 7, put on 7 kg on Reta started with 1 mg weekly, then 1 big Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. 3 mg a week down 8 kg in 2 months 48:06 Speaker 2: and back to 66 48:08 Speaker 2: kg. So I had to figure out the math on that because I don't work at kilograms. 48:12 Speaker 2: 145 pounds is where she's at on 66 kg. 48:16 Speaker 0: That works better for us. What is 6? So what's 16 kg, like 20 pounds. What is it? Like 2.5 just times 2.2. 48:23 Speaker 2: Okay. So you got, she's right now 145 48:26 Speaker 2: pounds. So I had to figure that out. Okay. So weight strength trained, 48:30 Speaker 2: training 5 times a week, starting Brazilian 48:33 Speaker 2: jiu jitsu. Nice training once a week. I am to eat 101 48:38 Speaker 2: hundred and 20 g of protein. 48:40 Speaker 2: My BMR is 1,200 calories. 48:42 Speaker 2: If I eat more than I'm 13 to 1500, 48:46 Speaker 2: I put on weight. 48:47 Speaker 2: Is it possible to increase my metabolism long term by micro dosing Reta 0.5 and adding in both Tessa and Ipamorelin? I'm assuming muscle gains 48:58 Speaker 2: will help. 49:01 Speaker 2: Increase. Yeah, I mean, sure. 49:03 Speaker 2: Kind of a vague question, but like, I would tell you like the simplest thing here is like, when you go above the 1200, 49:10 Speaker 2: you gain weight. Well, what are you eating? Because like you're, 49:14 Speaker 2: that's why I want to figure out that you're 145 pounds in 49:17 Speaker 2: our weight and you should be eating more than that. You should be eating roughly about 145 49:23 Speaker 2: grams of protein. So increase your protein, drop the carbs 49:27 Speaker 2: and 49:28 Speaker 2: you know, that's gonna probably work out better for So yeah, quickly, quickly. Yes. The problem is the answer is absolutely yes, dude. And 49:37 Speaker 0: I hate, I dislike calories, 49:39 Speaker 0: right? I care more about the macro nutrients rather than calories because I can consume 49:45 Speaker 0: the same amount of calories in Donut or burgers. Yeah. As I do in steak. 49:50 Speaker 0: Yeah. And I guarantee you You're cheating. The same I guarantee you I will look 49:55 Speaker 0: way different if I eat that much like that, though. Like it's so 50:00 Speaker 0: but also, think about this. So in protein 50:03 Speaker 0: and carbohydrates, 50:04 Speaker 0: so every gram 50:06 Speaker 0: of protein contains 4 calories. 50:09 Speaker 0: Same, and that's the same conversion for carbohydrates. 50:12 Speaker 0: So at a 100 grams, you say a 100 grams of protein a day. Okay? That means you're getting 400 calories 50:18 Speaker 0: from protein. Yep. Out of your total, 50:22 Speaker 0: let's say you want to stay below 1,200. 50:24 Speaker 0: Okay? 50:25 Speaker 0: 1,200. 50:26 Speaker 0: So 400 of that has come from protein. 50:29 Speaker 0: Where's the rest of it? Oh, incidentally, by the way, the conversion on fat is 9. So fats are really dense. So 1 g of fat contains 9 calories versus 50:40 Speaker 0: 1 g protein or carbs, it goes 4 calories each. 50:45 Speaker 2: Micro nutrient. Yeah. Those 50:47 Speaker 0: are your macros. 50:48 Speaker 2: Basically 50:49 Speaker 2: 1,200 50:50 Speaker 0: calories and you're only and you're eating 400, you're eating 0.333 of that is coming in protein. So do you do I would really look at your macros. 50:58 Speaker 0: So Instead of calories. I would instead of calories. I don't care about the calories. I would if you can set yourself a goal caloric weight, but I almost, 51:07 Speaker 0: I would challenge you that if you eat more than 1,300 calories, you gain weight. I think that that's a misconception. 51:13 Speaker 2: It's what you eat for sure. If you eat like more protein, you're not gaining that weight. And you're gaining weight, but let's say you might be gaining weight, but it's muscle and your body's going look a whole lot different. Right. Completely different. Well, that's why I say everybody like looks at the scale so much. Like, well, how do you look? How do you feel? Like, even if you gain a little bit, but do you look more toned? Like it's not just the scale. 51:32 Speaker 0: It's 51:33 Speaker 0: just not. It's what's funny is I remember as being a trainer, you're not allowed to recommend anybody 51:39 Speaker 0: any like macro 51:41 Speaker 0: nutrient prescriptions. 51:42 Speaker 0: You have to go with the designated, 51:45 Speaker 0: what the, I think it's the FDA 51:47 Speaker 2: what their, 51:48 Speaker 0: their macronutrient 51:50 Speaker 0: prescription is. And they're like, they're healthiest with lowest carb 1. 51:54 Speaker 0: And I guess I may be wrong on this, but I think their lowest carb 1 was something like 60% carbs. 52:01 Speaker 0: Wow. 52:02 Speaker 0: Which is nuts. And so I wouldn't if a person, if you're eating 1,200 calories, 52:07 Speaker 0: your macronutrient prescription is always a guess and check 1st. Like, yeah, I don't know. Let's guess, let's see how we do. Eat that for like 2, 3 weeks and let's see what your body does. Right? And then make some adjustments to it. But I would generally say something like, shoot, man, 52:21 Speaker 0: 40%, 52:23 Speaker 0: beef protein 52:25 Speaker 0: and then 52:27 Speaker 0: maybe more. Right? Like 52:30 Speaker 0: 60 I don't know, 50% protein and then, maybe 52:34 Speaker 0: 30% fat, 20% carbs. 52:39 Speaker 0: That is just a thrown out there macronutrient 52:41 Speaker 0: prescription. But if you can do that and then you do that math for your 1,200 calories, it might be a good starting point. 52:48 Speaker 0: But yes, the problem is the BMR being at 1,200 calories. Okay? That's your basal metabolic rate, That's how many calories you burn in a 24 hour period and is heavily dependent 52:57 Speaker 0: upon how much muscle you have. By 53:00 Speaker 0: adding in Tesa and Ampamorelin, you should keep muscle. In fact, you should hopefully be adding some muscle over time. 53:07 Speaker 0: Every, 53:08 Speaker 0: I think it's like every pound of body, any every pound of, muscle that you add will increase his BMR 53:14 Speaker 0: by 53:15 Speaker 0: 50 or 70 calories, if I remember right. 53:19 Speaker 0: And that is how you increase your metabolism. Right? We don't want to really think of metabolisms 53:24 Speaker 0: as fast and slow. We want to kind of think of them as high and low. They are in number. 53:29 Speaker 0: And 53:31 Speaker 0: so we need to increase caloric burn every way you can by frequent, small frequent meals and by adding muscle 53:38 Speaker 0: Do that. Can we have 3 questions? 5 minutes. 53:41 Speaker 0: Yeah. You want to bust some Let's of these do, yeah. 53:45 Speaker 2: My 7 year old mom, she has 53:48 Speaker 2: ulcerative 53:49 Speaker 2: colitis and her doctor appears to be against peptides. 53:52 Speaker 2: No shocker. I'm trying to convince her to try it my way and use peptides. What would be the recommendation to start with? 54:00 Speaker 2: 2nd part, the doctor also has her on 4 megs a week of Wiguvi and 54:05 Speaker 2: wants to bump her up to 9 megs a week. That sounds crazy to me. I convinced her to switch to Retta, but need to know how, how to safely transition 1 it to her for her. 54:15 Speaker 2: Thank 54:16 Speaker 2: That's easy. I think. 54:19 Speaker 0: What sort of colitis? I've been trying BPC and KPV. 54:21 Speaker 0: All right. Try them oral. Like we talked about already. Why don't you maybe ask her, maybe you suggest how you transition from Tirzepatide to Retta? Yeah. I mean, I think at 4 megs, you're chilling. Like if she goes up to 9, 54:35 Speaker 2: I don't think that that's, that's a big freaking jump too. Like, woah, let's go to 9 to 4 to 9. Yeah. That's a huge jump. Huge. 54:43 Speaker 2: And so no, I don't think that that's going to be the answer and think you know that. So I think you could just do a pound per pound, to speak, meaning just go right to 4 MIGs of Retta. Is that perfect? 54:54 Speaker 2: Might not be. You 54:56 Speaker 2: could go slow and even start less. Now here's the thing. Your mom's been on to appetite. She's gonna be used to her appetite. She's gonna be used to not wanting to eat. That's not how we're supposed to be. We need food. We like food. We like hunger. 55:09 Speaker 2: She's going to feel 55:11 Speaker 2: hungry again on Retatrutide because it's a different compound. 55:15 Speaker 2: So it might throw her off a little bit. So that's why I say go right into the 4 megs. Generally, I would say maybe start with a mega week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. But I think because she might be set on that feeling that Tirzepatide just go 4 megs, make it easy. What are your thoughts? Do you think on that? I do think that, something a little different? No. 55:35 Speaker 0: Make it easy, right? Yeah, I would make it easy. I would do the same thing what you just said. I have nothing unique to add there. Yeah. 55:42 Speaker 0: Alright. Last question. RockAndRoll. I do wanna read this 1. As always, huge this last 1 is like 55:48 Speaker 0: this is super easy. As always, a huge shout out to you both for being such incredible men. I have a 5 year old Saint Bernard rescue mix who has he was injured while in the care of a previous employer. She now needs surgery for severe 56:02 Speaker 0: nerve root and spinal nerve compression. 56:05 Speaker 0: Jeez, man. Dude. That's causing significant pain and will eventually lead to paralysis if left untreated. Jeez. Damn. 56:12 Speaker 0: I wanna give her the best chance at recovery and quality of life. I'm planning to use the Wolverine after surgery, but I'm sure unsure of the protocol. She weighs 125 pounds. 56:23 Speaker 0: Would a human sized dose be appropriate? 56:25 Speaker 0: Or would you recommend something different? I know she's only 5 years old, but as a giant breed, I also know our time together is never long enough. I wanna give her the very best chance at healing and the highest quality of life for the years she has left. For you. So good for you. Kind human. Which is very odd, usually a spinal compression, right, that happens to 2 legged people, right, 2 legged animals because we walk, 56:47 Speaker 0: which is not normal. 56:49 Speaker 0: Gravity is compressing our spine. 56:51 Speaker 0: When you're on 4 legs, life's a lot easier. You have way less back problems. Yeah. Because all that weight is distributed within 4 things and our spines apparently just aren't really meant to do that. Yeah. To just push down. So that's I don't know what the hell these people did to this poor dog to cause that. I guess that's that's where I was Sounds like they were Sounds like weren't very good. No. Dude, for this big so there's there's there's a lot of kind of anecdotal 57:13 Speaker 0: studies out there. There's a lot of mice 57:16 Speaker 0: studies. 57:17 Speaker 0: They they have done some studies on dogs, 57:20 Speaker 0: but nothing that is 57:22 Speaker 0: super conclusive and is full like clinical trials For 57:27 Speaker 0: the big dog, honestly, I would say, yeah, give him a human dose. 57:31 Speaker 0: I'm not even worried about it. I'm not I gave my dog, my big dog was a 100. 57:36 Speaker 0: Close. Close to what I would basically what I would give myself. 57:41 Speaker 0: I gave him, I gave him 1 mg of BPC and 1 mg TB-five hundred 3 days a week and it helped a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I can see it. It helps a lot. I have a friend who does the same thing. 57:52 Speaker 0: So that's a big dog 57:54 Speaker 0: and that stuff is like 57:56 Speaker 0: harmless. And they've done, they have done some tests and like realize plus dog's metabolism is a lot faster. So they'll push that stuff out of them. They do, they did a test on, on beagles with BPC and found like there's a 30 minute 0.5 life of the BPC is gone after that. 58:12 Speaker 0: The absorption intramuscular is basically how you're going go because you're going to need to do it quick because 50%, 58:17 Speaker 0: 45 to 51%. 58:19 Speaker 0: And they were dosing those dogs at 68 micrograms 58:22 Speaker 0: per pound 58:24 Speaker 0: of body weight. But 58:26 Speaker 0: you can go higher. And the last 1 is surgery on my knee. I'm currently on Retatr BPC. How long do you recommend I'm off before the surgery or disclose or not disclose to anesthesiologist? 58:37 Speaker 0: I would tell the anesthesiologist 58:39 Speaker 0: everything. 58:40 Speaker 0: 1st of all, do not keep a secret from that person. 58:43 Speaker 0: Especially an anesthesiologist. He keeps you alive. He keeps you alive and you don't want to wake up on the table. You really don't want wake up on the table. Yeah. Surgery. 58:50 Speaker 0: Seriously. Tell them the truth, dude. I mean, I don't know if you have to be off of them. 58:57 Speaker 0: Yeah. 58:58 Speaker 0: I wouldn't. I mean, BPC, I mean, geez. I mean, it's not, you're not pregnant, you know? 59:05 Speaker 2: Yep. Let's sit up. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that you really need to, but just air on the safety. Just stop taking them until you just have it and then you're done. It'll be done. You know, especially the red eye, then they can slow the gastric emptying. 59:17 Speaker 2: Yep. So 59:19 Speaker 2: just wait, be done. That's it. Alright. 59:22 Speaker 2: Join school. Sorry to kind of blow through this, but we have an appointment 59:27 Speaker 2: that we're late for. Join school. School is just, man, it's amazing how many people are going over there. You guys are getting a lot of it. We got some other stuff coming down. We're about to release. It'll be released when you hear this. So it's released onto the VIP, my fasting protocol. 59:40 Speaker 2: I had that out 59:42 Speaker 2: about a year ago before we were like kind of doing all the stuff we were doing. 59:46 Speaker 2: Was hit. Yeah. And a lot of people always ask me, how do you fast? Will you give me the protocol? Yes, I will. It's going to be on school. Yes, it's in the VIP. So just 1 of those things is an upgrade, but it's a 12 week course because I did it over years. I crunched it down where you're going to increase and you're going to increase and you do some 1:00:03 Speaker 2: 24 year, 24 day hour fasts. 1:00:06 Speaker 2: And it works really well, especially for men over 40, you'll burn out worse. And 1:00:11 Speaker 2: you get into autophagy where those dead cells fall off and you start looking little a bit younger and feeling a little bit younger. You know, I don't think that I look younger, but it does work. Autophagy is amazing. 1:00:23 Speaker 2: Fox 4. 1:00:25 Speaker 0: Fox 0 4 killing off dead cells, clean off the dead cells. 1:00:29 Speaker 0: It's basically autophagy. That's what it does. It's really the same thing. I also created on so on school, you will there will be by the time you watch this, everybody, there 1:00:39 Speaker 0: will be a kind of a deep dive on HGH versus IGF-1LR-three 1:00:44 Speaker 0: and the interactions 1:00:46 Speaker 0: like