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0:22Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me, actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
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0:54Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way like my good friend, Mr. William T. Haws.
1:07Speaker 1Memorial Day. Keep thinking it was Monday. Driving in, I'm like, oh, shit, it's Tuesday. I know. I was thinking about our meeting that we usually have on Monday. I'm like, oh, it's Tuesday. So- So- No meeting, I guess. I guess we kind of had the meeting over the weekend. Yeah. We just got back from Vegas, which is great. We did a quick little turnaround trip. That was my 1st time on J-
1:26Speaker 1Yeah, Brad. It was Brad. Bloop. You should jump right on the plane, I will fly that any any chance I get. Yes. That was amazing, actually. I went through the So much. Patted down, taking your shoes off. And just dealing with the crowds and parking at the airport and then squeezing into the airplane, especially going to Vegas where it's a 40 minute flight. Like, right, you're spending 3 times that time
1:55Speaker 4dude, I'm in like a paper airplane. This is kind of sketchy. I'm really scared of heights. And like in a big airplane, I don't get that. There is no that I don't get the fear of heights because I feel like I'm just in an enclosed, like, building. Yeah. And it not not on my own out there looking over an edge. Right? But this 1,
2:13Speaker 1yes, I felt like I was I could see the ground going away. I'm going, oh, shit. I ain't looking at that. Just close the close the window, and we were bumpy the whole way.
2:24Speaker 4Yeah. It was it was up and down, but that's it's nice. Little shaky. It's nice. Yeah. And I don't care. It's okay. You just gotta come to PE. You can either just be sit there and just miserable and stressed out or just come
2:35Speaker 4I just had to go, okay. I will die too. I will die today. Yeah. And if I die, I die. Like,
2:47Speaker 4I'm not gonna do it. Right? Just gotta embrace it and just go, oh, well, let's live the best I can in these next 30, 40 minutes. Yeah.
2:55Speaker 1We were up in Vegas, which was great. We, Will and I got some time to sit down with no distractions and
3:01Speaker 1kind of suit the objective of the trip, which is just plot some stuff and what we want in the future. And it was funny after the meeting we had, I already knew this, but it was very, very shown very
3:14Speaker 1Will is great at what he does and he does not like what I do and I am great at what I do and I do not like what he does. And a lot of times we are both doing our separate things in the business and we don't even know what each other's doing and it just goes well. Yeah. Because we are so Yeah. That's very Of what we love. Because, like, what do you hate? He goes and tells me, I'm like, that's my favorite. Yeah. I swear. I'm like, this is perfect.
3:34Speaker 4Is perfect. I think that makes a good partnership. Right? You see, you hear, and see so many times, like, don't do, you know, friend because JD and I have been friends for a long time. Like, don't grow into business with your friends. Right.
3:49Speaker 4even shown its face at all. As long as you have mutual respect, man. And it is all about mutual respect. And I think the 1 thing that absolutely helps is that, like, we know each other. Like, there will never be a situation where, like, why is JD in this? Why is he even what is what is the point? We can I can do this? I can just do that job. Right? There's never that. And I was like, either way. Right? Hands down. Because the league was so funny, but I was like,
4:13Speaker 1all the stuff you were saying that you love, and I was like, oh my God, I just, hate that. I hate that.
4:20Speaker 1It's perfect. So it's perfect. So we stayed at own lanes and they go well. Yeah. Yeah. But a big stuff, man. I mean, we are excited. We,
4:36Speaker 1so, for anybody listening, it'll drop on Monday, but we get to talk about basically the guy that created the testing. They started with steroids. Yep. Yep. Stuff like that, but now they've obviously moved into peptides and,
4:48Speaker 1man, it'll be good to kinda just decipher what he's seen, what's changed, what he sees coming down the pike. Yeah. Yeah. Are a lot of the products that he tests, do they test out? I don't know if he'll answer that. Yeah. I don't know. But that's our too. But I have a bunch of questions that I'm gonna ask him pre,
5:27Speaker 4The endotoxin report should be 4 times higher than the MOTS C 40, by the way. So you can't go, oh, it was MOTS C 40. Oh, the average where it should be between 1 and 2.
5:51Speaker 4basically, like, if you have and I'm gonna ask him about this, we'll confirm this, but you're not gonna see
6:01Speaker 4there is a threshold of purity that just has to that just it cannot be beat. Like, you're never gonna ever see, well, a 100% of HGH. Right? Like, 96
6:11Speaker 4you know, 8 is like about is almost perfect as good as you're ever gonna get. But the only difference of 96 or HGH. I mean, you
6:18Speaker 1I mean, what are like a lot what is the the threshold I think for, like, CBS stuff? Like, isn't it, like, 80%?
6:24Speaker 4Yeah. I think it's been while. I don't wanna brutal that because it's something lower than you It's something like 92%.
6:36Speaker 4What is that? You realize, like, literally, not nothing that you take is really over 99.9%.
6:49Speaker 1and said, yeah, that's what yours is lying. Yeah. They're from The USA. No. They're not. No. They're not. Alright. Just so you know. No. No. Yeah. Yes. It's fun though because,
6:58Speaker 1I mean, the cool thing is so many people are intrigued and they're into it and we love it. Unfortunately, like very few, if any, unless they do really deep research on reading those, those actual reports are gonna know what the hell they are, but they're just being told to ask for them. You know? Part of the game. It is what it is. And a lot of people, like I said, is they don't know that the stuff that comes from CVS comes from China.
7:21Speaker 1You don't know that, I'm bursting your bubble now that this stuff, I don't wanna take the China stuff. Then don't go to any pharmacy in America because
7:29Speaker 4most are coming from China. And especially like but, yeah, so peptides, like all the raws, raws are created in China. Like, America has EPA standards, and it is impossible
7:53Speaker 4Some dude, I guarantee can make his own lab and he can make this much. Yeah. Right, for like personal use, but he ain't distributing that. It's nothing. None of you people are gonna be using that stuff. So it all has to happen in these giant manufacturing countries that
8:08Speaker 4have very loose laws on their environment like China. Yep. So that's where the raws come from. Made in America means,
8:22Speaker 4They put it, they measure, put bottle, put in bottle. They put a salt puck in there, and that's basically to help it's like a preservative, think about it. That's why you see something in your peptide vial. If that salt puck wasn't there, you'd go, what the hell? I got screwed. It would look like somebody poured powder in and then poured it out. Yeah. You'd see residue and go, wait a minute, nothing's in here. Right? That's the actual peptide. Sorry, folks. But what you see is this salt puck, it helps preserve it and keep it more stable.
8:50Speaker 4salt puck, freeze dry, crimp lid on, made in America. Yep. That's what made in America is. Pfizer does that. Yes. Like, they buy their raws from China.
9:00Speaker 1That's kind of a matter of an opinion on what what 1 would want to say. Do you believe that's from America? Sure, some do, some don't. I don't really care. I've known for a long time where most of the stuff comes from, so I don't really care. But,
9:13Speaker 1so now you know. If you didn't know that, if it says made in America, they are compounded here, the rawest shrimp from China. If they tell you otherwise, they either don't know, which is a problem and or they're lying. And, you know, there's there's there's exceptions to every rule. When we say China, that's true. Probably 9090%, like India, there's other outlying countries, so please don't Yeah. Say like, oh, 1 time ever in the history of thinking this little deviation
9:38Speaker 4that's the general rule. That's basically how things go. Here was my thought is so the salt puck, right, is for
9:54Speaker 4have the manufacture a company that manufactures the raws right now? Okay? So when they're in that raw form, that's when they're they're most vulnerable.
10:09Speaker 4bottle them, compound them, seal them, good. Right? Instead of raws, now let's take a month sometimes
10:17Speaker 4ship them over, right? Like ship them over to this side of the country, right, at not probably not temperature controlled during shipping guaranteed.
10:44Speaker 1if you choose like a telehealth or 503B, whatever, and you're gonna go that right route, cool. Like, here's the bottom line. Like, they will be tested to the degree where, like, you know that it's gonna be the exact amount, but you're gonna pay for that. Mhmm. They will come from the same spot. So just letting you know, were gonna come from the same spots.
11:14Speaker 4Are you saying the name? No, they are. I won't say now. It's like 5 or something like that.
11:24Speaker 4But it's interesting to know that. A lot of people are newer to peptides and a lot of people probably know this. A lot of people don't, and now you know. So But he's but he is right. Like, the the important part, though, really the important part is that what are we worried about? What are people worried about getting from China? What they're worried about is,
11:51Speaker 4Heavy metals, right, China's they're known to have produced some products with some residual heavy metals. Residual solvents. K? Residual solvents means any cleaning agent that isn't adequately
12:08Speaker 4pour some water, dump it out, and then load the peptide in. Right? It's not you're still gonna be using Windex in there. Right. So endotoxins,
12:22Speaker 4So any you should then, but we can test for this. This is general shake. We'll we'll talk about this. Good
12:38Speaker 4And therefore, once you have a test back on something that, well, that's verified 3 different times that says it is perfect in all those,
12:45Speaker 4I don't give a shit where it comes from. It comes from, I don't know, anywhere. Yeah. That means none of those bad things that we're worried about from where it came from Right. Are in place. Right.
13:04Speaker 4make the raws. That's not happening. So if you believed it. Because it's not American American,
13:16Speaker 1good stuff, man. So today's Q and A, we'll get after it. We had some good questions, different, some definitely some different questions. So, there's been some different spins on some different questions, not a lot of the same ones. So it's been great. Why don't you start us off, dude? Here
13:31Speaker 4Bye. Hi. I'm a 33 year old female. I have 2 kids. I work full time, and I'm a fitness trainer on the side.
13:44Speaker 45 to 6 days a week on top of teaching them. I eat very high protein meals, 140 plus grams a day, and love to move my body. My current stack is NAD,
13:54Speaker 45 units every other day, GLOW 1 unit every other day, Tirzepatide Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 0.5 units,
14:08Speaker 4I'm getting ready to phase out Tirzepatide and pull in Retta. My questions are, 1, how should I phase out Tirzepatide and switch to Retta? 2, should I add MOTS-3C into my stack? And 3, do you have any recommendations on my current stack? Any advice is appreciated. I love your podcast and recommend
14:25Speaker 4it to any of my fellow gym girls and guys that are interested in learning more about peptides. Thank you. Good stuff. Nice. Awesome.
14:48Speaker 40.5. Right? That's think that's not even measurable on the syringe. So when we hear here's a good thing to just tell everybody. When we're talking about units,
15:12Speaker 4we are everybody is talking about a 100 a u 100. So an insulin syringe that fits 1 mil total,
15:18Speaker 4right, and has a 100 check marks. Alright? Every single 1 check mark counts as 1 unit. Right? 1 through a 100. So you usually see check mark, check mark 10,
15:43Speaker 1Yeah. So that's what I think. It read the other way. So if you are taking 0.5, which is like nothing, you're taking way too little for it to do anything. Yeah.
15:52Speaker 4Right? Yes. If you're taking 50, that's great. If you're taking 50, so yeah. So here's the thing. How about this? We'll just clarify this. NAD, if you're taking 5 units, which would be 5 mg,
16:02Speaker 4that's very, very, very low. Think that's not really doing I don't think that's doing anything to you. I would here's my shot. NAD, honestly, I think a person should be between the regular dose between 25
16:20Speaker 4The way that I have people reconstitute it, the way that I reconstitute it, 1 unit is equal to 1 mg. So 50 mg would be 50 units, would be 0.5 a syringe.
16:29Speaker 4But you need to work your way up to that. You cannot just start at 50 or like we're just talking to her friend, like, you'll get an overwhelming tingling sensation where you need to sit down and breathe through it and,
16:43Speaker 4if you're doing 50 units, kill it. Good. Go. But maybe if you're only doing 5, hey, let's work your way up. Okay?
16:53Speaker 41 unit. I mean, I guess, so again, I think you're doing 10 units, but it should the Glow, I think that you're right. I would be doing 10 units, which works out to be 0.5 of a milligram
17:11Speaker 4Yeah. Now that's great. Would do that. I wouldn't do any more than that. I I would if if we're talking just TB BPC,
17:21Speaker 4Would At least a moment. You to go, you know, go a little bit more, but if it's from a maintenance, the problem is the GHKCU,
17:35Speaker 4So nothing you could do with that, but that's a great maintenance dose and you'll notice it in your skin and and your body will feel better.
17:57Speaker 4Max out at 1000 micrograms, AKA 1 mg. I don't know if many you were worried about any some water retention that might be high for a woman. Yeah. But,
18:06Speaker 4keep it low and consistent is better than high and potentially getting water retention. If you do that, just lower it down. Now,
18:25Speaker 40.5, I think, 3 times a week, I think, every other day. Yeah. So 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. That works. So it's like 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Here's how would you do it? How would we do the switching? Here's the thing. I would say
18:51Speaker 45 units maybe in like 2.5. Let's see if we had to split it by 3, I would just perfectly
19:07Speaker 4enter, I don't know, introduce it. Maybe I need to think about that math and the math on it, but go ahead, JD. That's a low I mean, that's a really low dose of tirzepatide.
19:17Speaker 1I was actually wondering how you're gonna answer that. I think because it's such a low dose, you could just switch them. I
19:22Speaker 1don't think that it's really going to be that big of a difference. Now, if you were taking like 6 mg,
19:31Speaker 1which is really low interest appetite. Mean, shoot, people are taking 15 mg of that stuff. So I think if you just switched it to to Reta at the same milligram,
19:39Speaker 1I think you'd do pretty good in just doing that. I would agree. That's that is my problem is there's not much room to It's just so low. There's not enough room to wiggle. I would probably just,
19:50Speaker 1slump her out 1 day. And we'll nail it. I've heard so. Tesamorelin for women, I think, is amazing. Like he said, the only only thing is you can gain some water weight and are kind of, you know, get that. So that's easy to tell. Just go go low and slow.
20:24Speaker 1bring in the MOTS-C. Now, if you wanted to do because you're an an active gal and if you wanted to have stuff, especially for what type of workouts you're doing with like yoga and like Pilates and all that stuff, I've been doing this Yogalates thing with my bride like 3 times a week. Holy moly. Now it's a hot 1, but, dude, it's freaking that's those girls get after it. Yeah. They do. So I've I've liked Push your limits. Train with precision. See the results.
21:00Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
21:07Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
21:17Speaker 2Wanted that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo Mastercard is issued by the Bancorp, Bank NA. Yeah. I've enjoyed it. I I focus on my my stomach, so
21:58Speaker 4shell really strong, so there is no leaks because MOTS-3C is now gonna push a whole bunch of energy in inside of this and that energy needs to be created and needs to be
22:08Speaker 4shuttled to you very efficiently. Yeah. And it can't be loud to leak out the sides. Yeah. So 1st, you wanna, you're basically like insulating the house. Right? Then we're turning the heat on so it can- Yeah. The heat. Because all these things that pop out, any leaks, that's like free radicals and inflammation, etcetera, and it's all bad. You take the MOTS-1.1 1st and your mitochondria is not doing well. We have found with some people that have had this issue where they just get
22:36Speaker 1because they're not really, it's not doing well. Like repair it 1st, then going for the MOTS-1C, then when you do the MOTS-1C, it will do well. Yeah. Alright. Let's see here.
23:41Speaker 4It's a good 1, man. Think that's really good. I think that it sounds like it's a doctor that has told you this to do this. I'm like, I wanna know who that doctor is because good job. Yeah. The doctor's using all of the resources that are available to him in medicine. So good for him. I don't see any problem with anything you're taking. I don't know other
23:59Speaker 4than what I just read, but everything looks good. To answer your question, says absolutely. Tesofensine like spot on. That's a great
24:08Speaker 4thing to use when replacing any of the GLP-1.5 folks, if y'all want to, if anybody wants to get off the GLPs, adding in like Tesla fencing would be my go to,
24:23Speaker 4your appetite. It gives you some, gives you extra energy starting in your brain and it's kind of the next best thing. Yeah.
24:38Speaker 1I don't know, say anything to the stack, but that looks awesome. You seem like you're doing the right things. Yeah, if you did some research, done some analysis doctor, then you've done great. You know, you wanna focus on sleep, diet, and obviously the
25:13Speaker 1literally had it. My wife has had it, and I know multiple people. Now I'm not saying it's a bad compound.
25:37Speaker 1is great. Well, I wolf agree now. I've obviously changed my mind on it, but I love it. The only thing I would just be a little careful is because you get energy,
25:48Speaker 1is your anxiety ridden, so just be prepared because it does give you energy. And some people that might rev up that anxiety a little bit, but, just go slow. Right? Mhmm. Think you'd be good. Yep. Test test 50 is great. Yes. Yeah. Alright.
26:01Speaker 4Next. Hey, guys. I'm really enjoying all the content you put out in the school community. Right on.
26:06Speaker 4There's so much information to learn and absorb. It's amazing. If someone is wanting to start down the mitochondrial journey, which peptide would you recommend 1st? Then which order should you run the other peptides?
26:22Speaker 4and how 1 peptide will be more efficient if ran before another peptide based on how it works in your body. Thanks again. Boom.
26:41Speaker 4peptides and will do amazing things taken together, right, is like, 1st of all, let's get like our lifestyle factors
26:58Speaker 4protein intake, resistance training, and what's my last thing is, yes, so glucose control, like, just sweets cut out the sweets.
27:12Speaker 4will your body will respond to so fast. Right? Literally. And will do wonders for you. I know that's a tall order. Like, if it I mean, easier said than done, I suppose. But
27:24Speaker 4sleep is huge. Start there. So then then I think we did answer that. If you were to ask me on this guy, I'd say you start with SS-thirty 1.
27:53Speaker 4but cells, which are cellular level. So then so then we have more newer cells can keep growing, replicating,
28:01Speaker 4and grow bigger because the there's not a whole bunch of trash in front of them. Mhmm.
28:14Speaker 4and plus giving more energy to them. There's a whole long list of things that NAD will do.
28:35Speaker 1I don't know. Yeah. I don't know how you're gonna- I don't know. But if it works out reads, I think I've taken it once. I don't know. I fast so much, so it kind of does what fasting does with the autophagy and stuff like that. But if it does do that, which I would imagine it does, because they've obviously been looking into it, it literally wipes out dirty cells. Yep. Brand new ones take their place. You look younger, you feel younger, it's amazing. So that's what Topaji does.
29:03Speaker 1the same. I mean, I wrote down foundation, foundation, foundation, build your foundation
29:08Speaker 1and then build on top of it. This isn't, we don't know if you're a man or a woman. So hormones
29:17Speaker 1huge. It's part of that foundation. I think it's the literally like the bolts of everything. I think that's the most important than diet, exercise, resistance training,
29:40Speaker 1gosh, man, you'd feel so much better. Just seed oils and sugars. If you just cut those suckers out for a month, you would feel amazing.
29:47Speaker 1And then you build a taunt on top of that, and then Will already nailed it. It's SS-31like
30:06Speaker 1man, year old man who has lifted his whole life. Hell yeah. Recently, the wife and I have gotten into peptides and are seeing great results.
30:24Speaker 1you had a legendary Jay Campbell on and it was our favorite episode. However, at the end of the podcast, Jay basically said HGH was worthless. I don't remember him saying that. What was it about? To older
30:54Speaker 1Phil Smith, Eugene, Oregon. That was rad. I don't remember that, do you? I don't remember
31:05Speaker 1you you're kind of thinking of the next questions, and sometimes you might have missed it. That probably is it because I I don't wanna answer for you. But HGH is like Yeah. You should be taking HGH.
31:14Speaker 1I don't remember Campbell saying that. I know Campbell, and I know that he takes HGH, so I can't imagine him saying that. Yeah. Why are you well, here's But I'm messing lying. I just don't remember. Right. Here's what I think I will say about HGH is everybody does think
31:26Speaker 4it's like this miracle drug. Right? Like, the when baseball players got in trouble for using steroids and PEDs and everybody's like, oh, they're all taking growth HGH. Right? Everybody thought that, man, it's such a performance enhancing drug. Like, it's just,
31:40Speaker 4I will it'll HGH is a long play and a very and it's very subtle. Yeah. So, like, somebody you introduce testosterone versus HGH. Testosterone is like,
31:58Speaker 4So HGH is not this miracle drug. It is, it does take long. It's a long term thing. I honestly wouldn't expect results for 6 months, right? After doing it daily,
32:11Speaker 4And I do think it's absolutely better for the older you are, the more effective it's going to be because inherently you're gonna have lower
32:26Speaker 4And so I don't think he said that, but I do think it's not worthless. I think that in a the question might be,
33:07Speaker 4could be the problem. That could be a possible answer, but I definitely don't, I mean, especially- You remember the new tropics, so maybe you got it mixed up. I do remember that. Do not, but dude, you've re watched it. Like we're not, you totally could be right.
33:24Speaker 1So if we agreed, we were probably not super coherent at that question, we might have been thinking of the next because we're both extremely huge fans of HGH and at your age, you should absolutely be taking it. I mean, dude, recovery,
33:38Speaker 4bigger. I mean, I could go on and on for somebody your age. So definitely take 1 of these things that's funny. Growth is like, you take it and you go, okay. I don't know. Like, you know it's working because your knuckles start to, like, feel swollen. Right? Yeah. They're like, I is it really doing anything? How are you? So therefore it is subtle, but when you stop taking it a couple of weeks past, you go, oh, that's what it was like. Like,
34:12Speaker 4when we're not in pants. But, so I would, I totally agree that it is kind of a subtle play, but
34:18Speaker 4it's not worthless. And if Jay is taking it, I don't think he would say it's worthless and take it.
34:23Speaker 1And on your stack, it's funny because before I got to the end of your question, I remember I was underlining and I said, great. You must be listening to the podcast because that is something that I would say to take. So,
34:34Speaker 1I don't see TRT on here. I'm almost certain at your age you take TRT, but hopefully you do. But other than that, that stack's awesome, man. I love that. And that NK-six 77 at your age will
34:43Speaker 1show you a little of bulk. Absolutely. Good stack. So, yeah, take HGH. If we said that, we, spoke out a term.
34:55Speaker 4year old, 39 year old looking to start HGH. Currently taking Retta, NAD, and Wolverine for 7 weeks now. Which HGH
35:19Speaker 4Okay. So 1st answer, you said, hey. Which HGH do we find most effective? So I actually meant to bring, like, an example, but
35:54Speaker 4Whether you have a pen injecting it, whether you do the own injection, it doesn't matter. IU for IU,
36:02Speaker 4Then the question might be, they've seen what's so what what should I do? 100 IU kit, a 150
36:18Speaker 4all they are is like a 6 pack, 12 pack, 18 pack, a 30 pack. Right? To put it. All you're getting is just more
36:27Speaker 4Last longer. And, you know, and you're getting the cost more, but a little bit better price
37:13Speaker 1that's why we generally ask, well, how old is he? Oh, he's over 40. So we'll generally say someone drove an HGH. If it was like a 23 year old, I would say stay away from security. I wouldn't do anything. Anyway. You wouldn't do anything too stupid. Like, but, yeah. So, like, age plays a role in some of this. And just, you know, on a side note, and we appreciate every 1 of these questions. 1 thing that I would like, you know, for listeners if you're gonna write in, especially male, but even women, like, let us know, like, if you are hormonally optimized, if you are taking
37:45Speaker 1testosterone and just a little extra sometimes with those types of things can give us a little bit better of a answer because we know a little bit more about you. Yep. So the answer, let's say, which growth HGH
38:07Speaker 4Yeah. It's gonna help burn fat. It's gonna help burn your belly fat. It's gonna help burn, visceral
38:20Speaker 4is there to just kinda help out and push more growth for everyone. They synergistically
38:27Speaker 4by itself is gonna be effective, but taking Tesla and Ipamorelin is has a synergistic effect.
38:37Speaker 4if you do, but you're also saying, I also wanna start TESS. So if you take here's the thing, HGH,
38:42Speaker 4exogenous HGH, 191 amino acids, you're already taking that, and then you take a secretagogue also,
38:49Speaker 4your brain's pituitary is not gonna be open to making it more natural growth hormone because it goes, hey, how much do I have? A whole lot already.
38:59Speaker 4You give it a secretagogue, it's gonna go, sorry, dude. I already have a lot, and it's not the secretagogue
39:05Speaker 4on top of actually exogenous HGH isn't going to do much. Although you will get the effects of the fat burning visceral fat of Tesamorelin.
39:28Speaker 4can make it too strong for some people. Like, if we take a equal Tessa and Ipamorelin,
39:43Speaker 1like that idea. Yeah. But it's up to you. Yeah, that's great. I had that the other day, somebody asked, why do I recommend women to just do the Tesa? That's why. He's a Tesa. So a little bit of Ipamore be great, but if it's like ten-ten or it's
39:55Speaker 1a little bit too much for women, don't need deal with it a bit. Great way to explain that though.
40:00Speaker 1All right. Firefighter from El Paso, Texas, 37 years old, been following you guys for about 2 months. You're literally my workout music. I love it. Got injured in a fire, had shoulder surgery and went from squatting 5.75s
40:28Speaker 1to 2.21. That's awesome. Then hit a plateau. Pretty standard. Got on Reta, 2 Migs Monday and Thursday.
40:35Speaker 1Moving to 3 Migs next week. 1st 2 weeks, I gained 2 pounds but lost 2 inches of my waist.
40:49Speaker 1Why did I gain weight but lose inches on Lareda? Should I add Tesamorelin for the visceral fat? And if so, what's the dosing look like alongside Retta?
41:14Speaker 1so thank you. You know, like you guys, I love firemen because when everybody's running that way, you're running that way and a huge, huge, huge respect. Do you want me to run it? You want me go ahead. Go ahead. I'll answer. Yeah, so I
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42:00Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard. So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
42:18Speaker 2Want it that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp, Bank NA. We're,
42:31Speaker 1man, we guess I think we're just so caught up in wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, where you'd lost inches, inches, inches. Do you look better? Do you feel better? It's working. Yeah. Right? So I
42:45Speaker 1for a while and just stay on course. I promise you, if you're doing things right, you are going to have success. It's a promise unless you deviate.
42:55Speaker 1Here's the thing that jumped out at me on you is your sleep is trash. And, your age, I don't think, I think that, Will and I both are gonna kind of sit on this more and more just because
43:16Speaker 1And if you sleep like shit, which, you know, I've told my story because I like to share what's going on with me. I've never battled cortisol.
43:36Speaker 1That is your body keeping that fat because it wants to live. And if your cortisol is high,
43:42Speaker 1you're not gonna lose it. You're not gonna lose it. You need to get your cortisol down.
43:46Speaker 1So little some tricks. I can go over some sleep stuff that has worked radically for me. I mean, I tried everything and magnesium
44:07Speaker 1if you hear this, you shoot me a DM anywhere and I'll actually go through that. I actually posted something the other day about what is my actual stack and I went through like not just my supplements, but all supplements and I added it in there.
44:23Speaker 1Now I'm gonna tell you, Tesamorelin is amazing. I loved it. It jacked up my sleep and Ret is known to do that. I'm not deterring you from them. I'm just saying that
44:33Speaker 1what I would recommend if you do them is I would do them in the morning and not do them at night because that's
44:39Speaker 1something that could help you with that a little bit. Because I think really, brother, your main thing is getting that sleep because
44:46Speaker 1that's bigger than even like testosterone. Even if you're on testosterone, you won't burn
45:03Speaker 1But yeah, that's what I'm going to say to you, brother, is you obviously can throw in some DSIP. And,
45:15Speaker 1in line, getting sleep in line, obviously getting your diet in line, they are, they far as are, they take the top seat before peptides because peptides are just going to work a little bit unless you get that stuff in line.
45:27Speaker 1Hope that helped, but, I've been there, man. So, I fixed it and it's been freaking amazing.
45:33Speaker 4Alright. Right on you. I 2nd, like, most of that. Yeah. I mean, yes, everything you said, I agree with. The sleep is huge, huge, huge. The the cortisol comes from, yes, us being stressed out, and our body perceives stress different ways. Right? You don't have sleep or an irregular sleep schedule. Your body thinks it's in this your body is in this fight or flight state, right, and is producing cortisol. So that sucks and there's not much you can do about it because that is your livelihood and you would help people, good for you.
46:14Speaker 1outside, get sun. Yep. Like old school stuff that like, I think we all like did so much more
46:20Speaker 1a long time ago that we've just changed. We're inside, our faces in a phone. You know what I mean? Like even me, I'm an active dude, but I've been working. I just, I was outside yesterday and with my kids and my wife outside and I was, God, I haven't been in the damn sun forever. Like it felt great. You know, like I'm talking to myself too, man. Like we get so caught up in this little ball. But man, if we get back to old school,
46:48Speaker 1I'll tell you a quick little story because it's such a rad story. When my mom passed when I was 20, I went to get my haircut by this little Asian gal. I was obviously distraught, know? Like I was shook up, you know? And she could see that I was distraught And she says, What's going on, sweetie? I'm getting my haircut to go basically bury my mom, right? And she says, Sweetie, you need to go down to the beach and you need to take off your shoes and you need to sit by the water and let the water just slowly come up and hit your feet. And she said, Your body is going to calm down and it's gonna settle and it's gonna calm me down because we're in the womb for 9 months
47:24Speaker 1kind of woo woo, but I did it. Oh god, I just have done it ever since. It is such an amazing, like, and the point of that story is sometimes
47:32Speaker 1you just gotta get back to the basics of the stuff that like our ancestors, we don't, they didn't have peptides.
47:46Speaker 4Right? That's your like ice bath and shocking your system. They also chased animals down and like killed them with their bare hands and ate lots of well, probably vegetables. Right? Because that's a they could eat some plants, but they ate lots of fat and protein. Yeah. We didn't get the buffalo tonight, honey. We're eating some weeds. We're eating weed. So
48:03Speaker 4all that stuff is good, and that's why we were healthier, robust, more robust people back then. Now we died easier from little diseases
48:10Speaker 4because we didn't have doctors, but, okay, back to this. Tesamorelin, a 100% visceral fat, get rid of that stuff, dude. I would attack that with Tesamorelin
48:50Speaker 4Usually, it's 10 units, okay, 3 times a week. See how you do it. You might go down from there. I would say just do that
48:59Speaker 4See how you feel, see how you look. If you feel like you need to go up, then you bump up by 0.5 a milligram each 1 of those injections.
49:06Speaker 4It might be too strong. You might be like, damn dude, I'm not even eating anything. That's too strong. Just lower it down to, to, 0.5 of a milligram 3 times a week.
49:17Speaker 4And yeah, you were a big strong dude, so I hope you get back there. That sucks having an injury and thank you. But mention 3 65 squatting 5 75, if they're real squats,
49:27Speaker 4that 5 75 squat is the more important, more impressive 1 by the way. Just because dudes always like that, lay down, push stuff. That's easy, but like squatting that much and actually putting on your back and not telling me you leg press 1000 pounds because no 1 cares,
49:48Speaker 4women, what do you recommend if they're taking small amounts of hormones but need energy as well as healing body inflammation for chronic pain? Also, do you recommend anything for young growing athletes?
50:06Speaker 4women, okay, we have had this question and similar questions a lot. I have no, you know, firsthand experience,
50:22Speaker 4Everybody's using it. That stuff just works, works, works, works. I would maintenance I would I guess I would start off like a loading phase of a milligram a day. Watch what happens. Like a milligram a day for 2 weeks.
50:35Speaker 4Then you can maybe back that down to a milligram of each, 3 days a week. Make that part of your regimen. Watch the inflammation and any, like, pain, stiffness go away.
50:59Speaker 1No age, so I don't really know, but I figured we'd both answer that same way. I mean, it comes up quite a bit.
51:07Speaker 1I just will put you in issues how I'll answer it for my sons, which they will be 1 day in high school sports. And BPC TV, I will give to them for sure. They will have injuries. I wish I had it in high school, but other than that, nothing.
51:20Speaker 1Their bodies are young and they will heal. They will heal. They're supposed to have energy injuries,
51:30Speaker 1so freaking safe. And, I would do that for my sons. Other than that, nothing. And then for you, I guess, NAD, like energy energy NAD is awesome.
52:02Speaker 1it's just great. It's an amazing peptide and it'll keep you from getting sick and it's just awesome.
52:23Speaker 1then the MOTS C. And then, you know, like this, the standard, let's just be redundant for a reason.
52:32Speaker 1protein. I don't think women realize that they need as much protein as they should, but, I had, anybody, if anybody listens to the other podcasts I have with Eva,
52:44Speaker 1And, her answer to some stuff was eat protein right when you wake up for women. And I was like, I'd never heard any woman say that. So I thought it was awesome. So for you 2 ladies, eat some protein. Make sure you get your protein in. Women just don't. And let's say creatine, dude. Creatine does not get talked about. Creatine is freaking amazing, and literally everybody listening to this should be taking it. That's just
53:16Speaker 1All right. New to peptides here and I have not taken any. I'm currently breastfeeding,
53:24Speaker 1I'm wanting to take something to help build muscle and lose fat. Looking for a low dose,
53:43Speaker 1I know what you're gonna say. Go for it. My recommendation is take 0 mg of semaglutide. Semaglutide sucks. Run.
54:25Speaker 4I don't know. I mean, I don't wanna say you have to do a bulk and a cut because you actually don't, but Reta for sure for burning fat. I would I would absolutely get on that and and low dose it. And muscle building for women
54:38Speaker 4and and fat burning, Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin blend. The secretagog HGH secretagogue for men is not gonna do much for truly building muscle. Yep. But for women, it actually
54:49Speaker 4it will. It'll damn sure make you not lose any muscle in this times that you normally would go catabolic. So,
55:01Speaker 1Nailed it. I would just say add in what we've been talking about, your style of life. Protein. For sure. Add in some resistance training and again, creatine.
55:28Speaker 4Now, for the most part, give you There's a few samples. We have all the like, dosage protocols for single peptides
55:40Speaker 4and there are some examples of the conditions protocols, but a lot of them are for the 1st tier membership,
55:46Speaker 1which is $25 a month. It's like nothing, and you get full access to full explanations,
55:54Speaker 1It's been a lot of And there's more and more and more coming. Into this stuff. So hopefully, that's fine with you guys because it's like it's in a kind of a segue here or side note here is, you know, there's a guy that had written a comment the other day on school because 1 of our guys sent it to me just about, oh, is JD and Will ever on here? Like, you please understand this.
56:12Speaker 1Will and I are so freaking busy. Like, we've been working 7 days a week for like a year and 0.5. Like, yesterday was the 1st Monday off I've ever had in years and,
56:21Speaker 1we can't like, there's so many different outlets. Like, we get put out so much free content that, like, jeez, there's so you know, like, our social media channel school, there's so much free content on there. This podcast, there's so much free content on there, and it's like, if you don't get a response on the normal school, there's 9,000 people on there that are responding. You know, they're not us exactly, but that's why we have a VIP because,
56:44Speaker 4yeah, it's we are strapped. Like, we did, like, 1 the things that Will and I were this morning, like, oh shoot, we gotta knock that out because we missed the day. We gotta, like, we're behind. So please be understandable. I'm sure you do. Yeah. Cool. Thank you. Good stuff. Am I up? You no, I think I am. Alright. Maybe? I'll read. I just recently found your podcast, and I have gone back and listened to a lot of older ones while keeping up with your weekly drops and joined your school community. Mhmm. You 2 are awesome. Thank you.
57:13Speaker 4My question is I recently had a bone density test, 59 year old female, and I have osteopenia
57:23Speaker 4Must most I have found are FDA approved already and cost thousands. Doctor's advice is to up my calcium.
57:31Speaker 4I think an 8 year old could have told you that too. I have been on 30 units weekly of Retta,
57:38Speaker 475 units weekly of NAD plus, and finished my 1st round of Epitalon. Good for you. Thank you in advance for your type of God's work.
58:04Speaker 4Mean, your- That's better. Help everything, ever just think everything in your body is just gonna, you know, skin's gonna grow back better and firmer. Right? Your bone and do resistance training also. So secretagogues
58:20Speaker 4resistance, right, and decently heavy, you're causing thousands of small little micro fractures in those bones. And just like your muscles,
58:49Speaker 1Yeah, I was gonna say optimize your hormones. I would imagine that if you haven't got your blood work done, which I would imagine with what you're going through, you did,
58:56Speaker 1but I would not listen to that doctor. I would go to a doctor that's more, seasoned in hormones because you're gonna get very different answer. And there's a lot of people coming out now that are starting to really do the deep research and really
59:09Speaker 1know how to read hormones and not, you know, some somebody's at a 300, you know, the typical song. So make sure you're hormonally optimized.
59:19Speaker 1Will said secreted Gargoyle, was surprised you didn't say HGH. I think the HGH her HGH, probably HGH would be your best bet. Just go right to the jugular and 1 IU will probably do you better. With your situation, you might even go to 2,
59:31Speaker 1And you can always throw in some BPC and some TB, that'll do you good as well. But that alone, like you said, eat, eat and do
59:42Speaker 4know I read about it and I can't tell you the name right now, but it is literally just focused on
59:53Speaker 4Google that, I bet you'll find something. Now I believe that my research on it kind of was it
1:00:10Speaker 4that a little bit, and and we will too a little bit more. Do that. Alright, man. Am I taking this home? You take it home. I'm taking this home. Alright.
1:00:28Speaker 1It took a couple of months, but she started to lose weight, but most importantly, her body composition has changed a lot.
1:00:37Speaker 1her belly fat has gone down. We've been doing heavy weights and walking for a year and 0.5.
1:00:44Speaker 1Their tirzepatide is the only thing that got the scale and body to move. Here's my question.
1:00:50Speaker 1A couple months after the weight started to slowly come off and her body was changing, she had 3 episodes of feeling terrible.
1:01:49Speaker 1leveling out. Yep. And her body is freaking out, and it's actually a good thing. We can change the add ons
1:01:59Speaker 1For your information, she has medical anxiety. Thank you. I appreciate it sincerely.
1:02:23Speaker 1weren't feeling like you just were. So for a lot of people that's going to do. I think for your daughter, I think some protein, electrolytes,
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1:02:47Speaker 2dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard. So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
1:03:03Speaker 2Wanted that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp, Bank NA. Quality is good. Make sure she's eating enough. If she stops eating because of the tirzepatide, it's going to counteract the tirzepatide
1:03:35Speaker 1Also because of her anxiety, I would imagine she says her age 30, she's good. So Selank,
1:03:43Speaker 1those should be a given. You could even maybe take out the tirzepatide for a little bit and try the Tesofensine.
1:03:50Speaker 1Might work might work might give anxiety, but it's not, but it doesn't doesn't that much. I think I think, I'm from the old school, if you haven't figured it out by now. I think for your daughter, what will do really well for her, I don't know if you're into church, I don't know if you, whatever your lifestyle is, but if she just starts like serving and going to feed some homeless people or just do some of the things that are really
1:04:13Speaker 1out of self and helping other people, she will stop thinking about how she feels and she will feel amazing,
1:04:25Speaker 1slowly fall away because we are so in tune to ourselves if we're sitting there and just thinking about ourselves. I do it with a lot of my sponsees, like, dude, get out and help people. And you can think about you if you're thinking about somebody else,
1:04:39Speaker 1people's soul on fire. I believe our purpose in life is to help other people try it, watch, see if I'm wrong. Let's try that. Yes.
1:04:51Speaker 4Mean, really, I really do agree. And Jay, when somebody comes, comes to you with their problems and you tell them you're being selfish and start
1:05:01Speaker 4being grateful. That's not at all the answer I needed, but it actually probably is the answer you needed. Anyway, your daughter, it seems so mom, I think you're spot on. I think you're absolutely right that,
1:05:16Speaker 4like her blood sugar is crashing and not as comfortable because she's not loaded up on sugar
1:05:21Speaker 4just tell her keep toughing it out. I think you so I think, mom, you're on the right track. Right? I'll note. That is I think I think that that's what's going on.
1:05:34Speaker 4if it were me and my daughter, I guess, I'd move them to Retta instead of just Epitalon. Yeah. It's not gonna make her go hypoglycemic.
1:05:40Speaker 4What might make her go but not even really even okay, if she's not eating enough food, okay, that makes a blood person's blood sugar shit tank, right? That's where else you're gonna eat
1:05:52Speaker 4blood sugar. That's probably what's going on. So, yeah, I think that she needs to make sure that she's eating consistently,
1:05:58Speaker 4and that's yet another reason to switch that to Retta. K? Because you actually have an appetite. Food sounds good to you, just not a lot of it and not the bad food. It's like, what's better? Right? Forces you to, like, that perfect portion control
1:06:21Speaker 4The NAD potentially could be making the anxiety not good. You know, what makes anxiety not good? It's being really hungry too.
1:06:30Speaker 4that just boosts energy and anxiety. Shut up. Bad energy. Right? It's like yeah. So make sure that she's eating. The NAD is has some stimulant effects. It can
1:06:47Speaker 4it's it just, it sounds like she's been battling this her whole life and it's genetic.
1:06:51Speaker 4Right? You said, Not yet. Her dad is type 2, she is not yet. Therefore, she is type 3.
1:07:02Speaker 4could she test her blood sugar very fast? Right? You guys So this seems like a plan this seems like a
1:07:10Speaker 4a problem that has been, you know Yeah. Gaining on her her whole life. So keep working at it. It's not gonna get solved immediately,
1:07:20Speaker 4and gets back to it. But you are kicking ass, mom. Good for you. And do everything JD said, and good luck, and you just and she just keeps trying to keep going. Right? Consistency
1:07:46Speaker 40 Good stuff. Great questions. Very different from the ones that have come through some for a while they were kind of redundant, not knocking it because I know we got new viewers all the time. So it's great, but those are some good ones, man. So again, if a little bit more info info for some of you, help us answer them a little bit more in-depth.
1:08:06Speaker 1a month that has some extras where you can find some different protocols that, you know, and then the VIP, which is what, $60 a month. We got a lot coming down. I know for some of you haven't seen a lot of stuff, but you do get a big discount. You got all kinds of different protocols
1:08:22Speaker 1on there. So Was that those actually come with the with the 25, so that's 0 in luck. Then the and then we're gonna be dropping all kinds of, like, videos
1:08:30Speaker 1that are just we've already done some that we needed to film some more, but we did even
1:08:37Speaker 1because we can, and there's a lot of questions on it. So we did a bulking stack, a cutter stack, and that's not for you, cool. It's for a lot of people, they were interested, but there'll be a lot of that stuff. And just join the community because
1:08:52Speaker 1it's a rad community. There is so much camaraderie. There is so much just people lifting each other up and being positive. That was the reason why we did it. So we love seeing that stuff. So, other
1:09:19Speaker 1shoot them in any 1 of our DMs. They're all checked, and, we will Yep. See if we're good. We'll ask. The owner of Janoship,
1:09:27Speaker 4lab that started in The Czech Republic, and they test people have been sending different samples of everything, started with steroids years ago,
1:09:35Speaker 4and now it's in now still steroids and peptides, etcetera. So, yeah, please give questions. We'll we'll try to ask him there too. We'll ask 1 live on the thing and we'll say, is from I know not your name. We won't do that to you, but, we will say this is from the audience. Yeah. That'd be cool. The last thing I wanna say that I forgot this, the firefighter from El Paso, right, you've lost you haven't lost weight or you've in fact gained weight, but inches have come off of your waist. I mean, that's literally the goal. I mean, that's what the point, that is the best news possible, right? That is the goal. How do you feel? How do you look? Know, how do you feel and how you look? Muscle weighs way more than fat. And so you absolutely,
1:10:12Speaker 4right? I don't care what the scale says, Right? Yeah. It's body weight stay the exact same, right, but a person's body can look fucking way different. Yeah. I have like before after pictures of of of a woman who is like 10
1:10:29Speaker 4Because she has turned Definitely. Got rid of all the fat, add a whole bunch of muscle, muscle goes into the right places, fat's always in the wrong places that makes you look bad.