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0:54Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way like my good friend, Mr. William T. Haws.
1:03Speaker 4Happy Tuesday. Happy Tuesday and happy Monday, not
1:07Speaker 1Memorial Day. Keep thinking it was Monday. Driving in, I'm like, oh, shit, it's Tuesday. I know. I was thinking about our meeting that we usually have on Monday. I'm like, oh, it's Tuesday. So- So- No meeting, I guess. I guess we kind of had the meeting over the weekend. Yeah. We just got back from Vegas, which is great. We did a quick little turnaround trip. That was my 1st time on J-
1:24Speaker 1JSX.
1:25Speaker 1JSX?
1:26Speaker 1Yeah, Brad. It was Brad. Bloop. You should jump right on the plane, I will fly that any any chance I get. Yes. That was amazing, actually. I went through the So much. Patted down, taking your shoes off. And just dealing with the crowds and parking at the airport and then squeezing into the airplane, especially going to Vegas where it's a 40 minute flight. Like, right, you're spending 3 times that time
1:47Speaker 4getting ready in line.
1:49Speaker 4Yeah. Although when we did take off for the 1st time,
1:53Speaker 4it struck me that,
1:55Speaker 4dude, I'm in like a paper airplane. This is kind of sketchy. I'm really scared of heights. And like in a big airplane, I don't get that. There is no that I don't get the fear of heights because I feel like I'm just in an enclosed, like, building. Yeah. And it not not on my own out there looking over an edge. Right? But this 1,
2:13Speaker 1yes, I felt like I was I could see the ground going away. I'm going, oh, shit. I ain't looking at that. Just close the close the window, and we were bumpy the whole way.
2:22Speaker 1Did it was just like like
2:24Speaker 4Yeah. It was it was up and down, but that's it's nice. Little shaky. It's nice. Yeah. And I don't care. It's okay. You just gotta come to PE. You can either just be sit there and just miserable and stressed out or just come
2:35Speaker 4I just had to go, okay. I will die too. I will die today. Yeah. And if I die, I die. Like,
2:43Speaker 4there's nothing stopping it falling falling that much. No. No.
2:47Speaker 4I'm not gonna do it. Right? Just gotta embrace it and just go, oh, well, let's live the best I can in these next 30, 40 minutes. Yeah.
2:55Speaker 1We were up in Vegas, which was great. We, Will and I got some time to sit down with no distractions and
3:01Speaker 1kind of suit the objective of the trip, which is just plot some stuff and what we want in the future. And it was funny after the meeting we had, I already knew this, but it was very, very shown very
3:12Speaker 1vividly again that
3:14Speaker 1Will is great at what he does and he does not like what I do and I am great at what I do and I do not like what he does. And a lot of times we are both doing our separate things in the business and we don't even know what each other's doing and it just goes well. Yeah. Because we are so Yeah. That's very Of what we love. Because, like, what do you hate? He goes and tells me, I'm like, that's my favorite. Yeah. I swear. I'm like, this is perfect.
3:34Speaker 4Is perfect. I think that makes a good partnership. Right? You see, you hear, and see so many times, like, don't do, you know, friend because JD and I have been friends for a long time. Like, don't grow into business with your friends. Right.
3:47Speaker 4And, I don't know. I that has not
3:49Speaker 4even shown its face at all. As long as you have mutual respect, man. And it is all about mutual respect. And I think the 1 thing that absolutely helps is that, like, we know each other. Like, there will never be a situation where, like, why is JD in this? Why is he even what is what is the point? We can I can do this? I can just do that job. Right? There's never that. And I was like, either way. Right? Hands down. Because the league was so funny, but I was like,
4:13Speaker 1all the stuff you were saying that you love, and I was like, oh my God, I just, hate that. I hate that.
4:19Speaker 4Yep.
4:20Speaker 1It's perfect. So it's perfect. So we stayed at own lanes and they go well. Yeah. Yeah. But a big stuff, man. I mean, we are excited. We,
4:27Speaker 1tomorrow, which will be dropping on Monday, we're gonna have Peter
4:30Speaker 1Magic from Janoship
4:32Speaker 1coming on and, man, I'm excited about that. That's dope. Man,
4:36Speaker 1so, for anybody listening, it'll drop on Monday, but we get to talk about basically the guy that created the testing. They started with steroids. Yep. Yep. Stuff like that, but now they've obviously moved into peptides and,
4:48Speaker 1man, it'll be good to kinda just decipher what he's seen, what's changed, what he sees coming down the pike. Yeah. Yeah. Are a lot of the products that he tests, do they test out? I don't know if he'll answer that. Yeah. I don't know. But that's our too. But I have a bunch of questions that I'm gonna ask him pre,
5:02Speaker 4to see what his answers are, see if he will answer them. Yeah, there's
5:06Speaker 4a lot
5:09Speaker 4of things that people don't understand
5:11Speaker 4when looking, just looking at a test report.
5:14Speaker 4You know, I mean, like many things like just for example, like endotoxins.
5:18Speaker 4Okay? So you can't look at an end of, let's say for example, a MOTS-ten,
5:24Speaker 4right, and a MOTS-forty.
5:26Speaker 4Okay?
5:27Speaker 4The endotoxin report should be 4 times higher than the MOTS C 40, by the way. So you can't go, oh, it was MOTS C 40. Oh, the average where it should be between 1 and 2.
5:37Speaker 4This MOTS C 40, oh, it's a 10 or something. That's, oh, that's bad. Like, no,
5:43Speaker 4that's, it's 4 times as much. Therefore, it's going to have 4 times this.
5:48Speaker 4Also,
5:49Speaker 4like,
5:50Speaker 4HGH,
5:51Speaker 4basically, like, if you have and I'm gonna ask him about this, we'll confirm this, but you're not gonna see
5:56Speaker 4anything, like, really above, like, a 97,
5:59Speaker 498. There just is
6:01Speaker 4there is a threshold of purity that just has to that just it cannot be beat. Like, you're never gonna ever see, well, a 100% of HGH. Right? Like, 96
6:09Speaker 4high 96,
6:11Speaker 4you know, 8 is like about is almost perfect as good as you're ever gonna get. But the only difference of 96 or HGH. I mean, you
6:18Speaker 1I mean, what are like a lot what is the the threshold I think for, like, CBS stuff? Like, isn't it, like, 80%?
6:24Speaker 4Yeah. I think it's been while. I don't wanna brutal that because it's something lower than you It's something like 92%.
6:29Speaker 1Actually, we got those lower. And,
6:31Speaker 4right. But then everybody when talking about peptides is like, oh, I gotta have 99.9%.
6:36Speaker 4What is that? You realize, like, literally, not nothing that you take is really over 99.9%.
6:42Speaker 4So why why that threshold with peptides is because some asshole
6:47Speaker 4The talk. Just broke 99.9
6:49Speaker 1and said, yeah, that's what yours is lying. Yeah. They're from The USA. No. They're not. No. They're not. Alright. Just so you know. No. No. Yeah. Yes. It's fun though because,
6:58Speaker 1I mean, the cool thing is so many people are intrigued and they're into it and we love it. Unfortunately, like very few, if any, unless they do really deep research on reading those, those actual reports are gonna know what the hell they are, but they're just being told to ask for them. You know? Part of the game. It is what it is. And a lot of people, like I said, is they don't know that the stuff that comes from CVS comes from China.
7:21Speaker 1You don't know that, I'm bursting your bubble now that this stuff, I don't wanna take the China stuff. Then don't go to any pharmacy in America because
7:29Speaker 4most are coming from China. And especially like but, yeah, so peptides, like all the raws, raws are created in China. Like, America has EPA standards, and it is impossible
7:40Speaker 4for anybody in America to mass produce and create the raw chemical,
7:45Speaker 4actual
7:46Speaker 4powder of these peptides in any
7:49Speaker 4type of quantity, right, in any quantity that's to sell.
7:53Speaker 4Some dude, I guarantee can make his own lab and he can make this much. Yeah. Right, for like personal use, but he ain't distributing that. It's nothing. None of you people are gonna be using that stuff. So it all has to happen in these giant manufacturing countries that
8:08Speaker 4have very loose laws on their environment like China. Yep. So that's where the raws come from. Made in America means,
8:14Speaker 4and here's an here's here's 1 argument actually. So it means that they are compounded,
8:19Speaker 4but basically means
8:20Speaker 4raws come here.
8:22Speaker 4They put it, they measure, put bottle, put in bottle. They put a salt puck in there, and that's basically to help it's like a preservative, think about it. That's why you see something in your peptide vial. If that salt puck wasn't there, you'd go, what the hell? I got screwed. It would look like somebody poured powder in and then poured it out. Yeah. You'd see residue and go, wait a minute, nothing's in here. Right? That's the actual peptide. Sorry, folks. But what you see is this salt puck, it helps preserve it and keep it more stable.
8:48Speaker 4So they measure
8:50Speaker 4salt puck, freeze dry, crimp lid on, made in America. Yep. That's what made in America is. Pfizer does that. Yes. Like, they buy their raws from China.
9:00Speaker 1That's kind of a matter of an opinion on what what 1 would want to say. Do you believe that's from America? Sure, some do, some don't. I don't really care. I've known for a long time where most of the stuff comes from, so I don't really care. But,
9:13Speaker 1so now you know. If you didn't know that, if it says made in America, they are compounded here, the rawest shrimp from China. If they tell you otherwise, they either don't know, which is a problem and or they're lying. And, you know, there's there's there's exceptions to every rule. When we say China, that's true. Probably 9090%, like India, there's other outlying countries, so please don't Yeah. Say like, oh, 1 time ever in the history of thinking this little deviation
9:35Speaker 4occurred. Yep. We understand. But,
9:37Speaker 4that's
9:38Speaker 4that's the general rule. That's basically how things go. Here was my thought is so the salt puck, right, is for
9:48Speaker 4preservatives and to keep it more stable. Okay? Therefore,
9:52Speaker 4wouldn't a person wouldn't you rather
9:54Speaker 4have the manufacture a company that manufactures the raws right now? Okay? So when they're in that raw form, that's when they're they're most vulnerable.
10:01Speaker 4Okay? To light, heat, contaminants, etcetera.
10:04Speaker 4When you want somebody to manufacture raws and then immediately
10:09Speaker 4bottle them, compound them, seal them, good. Right? Instead of raws, now let's take a month sometimes
10:17Speaker 4ship them over, right? Like ship them over to this side of the country, right, at not probably not temperature controlled during shipping guaranteed.
10:25Speaker 4Like there's some and then over here, finally,
10:29Speaker 4now compound them, right? Yeah. Instead of leaving all of that time
10:33Speaker 4for
10:34Speaker 4degradation,
10:35Speaker 4etcetera.
10:36Speaker 1Right.
10:37Speaker 4Seems to me I'd rather just have them manufactured, modeled.
10:41Speaker 1Think the important stuff is even
10:44Speaker 1if you choose like a telehealth or 503B, whatever, and you're gonna go that right route, cool. Like, here's the bottom line. Like, they will be tested to the degree where, like, you know that it's gonna be the exact amount, but you're gonna pay for that. Mhmm. They will come from the same spot. So just letting you know, were gonna come from the same spots.
11:02Speaker 4You're just gonna pay a lot more. And there are basically some a couple like US,
11:07Speaker 4some a couple US FDA approved absolute,
11:12Speaker 4labs in China.
11:14Speaker 4Are you saying the name? No, they are. I won't say now. It's like 5 or something like that.
11:19Speaker 4And
11:20Speaker 4so, yeah, and that's as good as-
11:24Speaker 4But it's interesting to know that. A lot of people are newer to peptides and a lot of people probably know this. A lot of people don't, and now you know. So But he's but he is right. Like, the the important part, though, really the important part is that what are we worried about? What are people worried about getting from China? What they're worried about is,
11:40Speaker 4excess endotoxins.
11:42Speaker 4Endotoxins are toxins that have died, and it's the residual dried,
11:47Speaker 4like, shell of the bacteria, right, which still can be toxic.
11:51Speaker 4Heavy metals, right, China's they're known to have produced some products with some residual heavy metals. Residual solvents. K? Residual solvents means any cleaning agent that isn't adequately
12:04Speaker 4cleaned off. Yeah. Right?
12:06Speaker 4You spray Windex in the bottle,
12:08Speaker 4pour some water, dump it out, and then load the peptide in. Right? It's not you're still gonna be using Windex in there. Right. So endotoxins,
12:15Speaker 4heavy metals, residual solvents, that's about what
12:18Speaker 4that is the worry, anything from China. Okay?
12:22Speaker 4So any you should then, but we can test for this. This is general shake. We'll we'll talk about this. Good
12:28Speaker 4companies will kind of triple verify
12:32Speaker 4and test for all of those things, including
12:35Speaker 4quality purity amount.
12:38Speaker 4And therefore, once you have a test back on something that, well, that's verified 3 different times that says it is perfect in all those,
12:45Speaker 4I don't give a shit where it comes from. It comes from, I don't know, anywhere. Yeah. That means none of those bad things that we're worried about from where it came from Right. Are in place. Right.
12:54Speaker 4And, yeah, the only other argument would be economy and
12:57Speaker 4just, sorry, the raws are coming from China.
13:00Speaker 4There's no way. There's no way to move American jobs to make
13:04Speaker 4make the raws. That's not happening. So if you believed it. Because it's not American American,
13:08Speaker 4you doubt. Seriously. Okay, that's all I can say.
13:12Speaker 1Good stuff. So we're gonna dig into that tomorrow. I'm excited. Yeah,
13:16Speaker 1good stuff, man. So today's Q and A, we'll get after it. We had some good questions, different, some definitely some different questions. So, there's been some different spins on some different questions, not a lot of the same ones. So it's been great. Why don't you start us off, dude? Here
13:30Speaker 4we go.
13:31Speaker 4Bye. Hi. I'm a 33 year old female. I have 2 kids. I work full time, and I'm a fitness trainer on the side.
13:38Speaker 4Am I doing the right 1? Good work. Okay. Sorry.
13:41Speaker 4I strength train, take Pilates, or do yoga
13:44Speaker 45 to 6 days a week on top of teaching them. I eat very high protein meals, 140 plus grams a day, and love to move my body. My current stack is NAD,
13:54Speaker 45 units every other day, GLOW 1 unit every other day, Tirzepatide Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 0.5 units,
14:02Speaker 4and Tesamorelin to 2.5 units every other day. Okay. Every other day, period.
14:08Speaker 4I'm getting ready to phase out Tirzepatide and pull in Retta. My questions are, 1, how should I phase out Tirzepatide and switch to Retta? 2, should I add MOTS-3C into my stack? And 3, do you have any recommendations on my current stack? Any advice is appreciated. I love your podcast and recommend
14:25Speaker 4it to any of my fellow gym girls and guys that are interested in learning more about peptides. Thank you. Good stuff. Nice. Awesome.
14:33Speaker 1Okay. Let me go or you wanna go? I'll go.
14:36Speaker 4So
14:38Speaker 4my 1st question is that
14:41Speaker 4we're saying 5 units.
14:43Speaker 4I don't it strikes me
14:46Speaker 40.5 units.
14:48Speaker 40.5. Right? That's think that's not even measurable on the syringe. So when we hear here's a good thing to just tell everybody. When we're talking about units,
14:58Speaker 4units is not like an international measurement.
15:00Speaker 4Right? A unit has absolutely no it does means nothing
15:04Speaker 4unless it's in context, unless you are holding a specific syringe.
15:08Speaker 4And on that syringe, you're talking a unit. So mostly,
15:12Speaker 4we are everybody is talking about a 100 a u 100. So an insulin syringe that fits 1 mil total,
15:18Speaker 4right, and has a 100 check marks. Alright? Every single 1 check mark counts as 1 unit. Right? 1 through a 100. So you usually see check mark, check mark 10,
15:29Speaker 420. It'll actually say the words 10, 20, 30. So that 10 is 10 units, not 1 unit,
15:35Speaker 4and that 10 units is also 0.1 of a mil. My guess is that she's
15:40Speaker 450? Talking about 50. So the NAD, 50 units.
15:43Speaker 1Yeah. So that's what I think. It read the other way. So if you are taking 0.5, which is like nothing, you're taking way too little for it to do anything. Yeah.
15:52Speaker 4Right? Yes. If you're taking 50, that's great. If you're taking 50, so yeah. So here's the thing. How about this? We'll just clarify this. NAD, if you're taking 5 units, which would be 5 mg,
16:02Speaker 4that's very, very, very low. Think that's not really doing I don't think that's doing anything to you. I would here's my shot. NAD, honestly, I think a person should be between the regular dose between 25
16:14Speaker 4to 50
16:15Speaker 4mg
16:17Speaker 4per dose. Okay? 25 to 50 mg.
16:20Speaker 4The way that I have people reconstitute it, the way that I reconstitute it, 1 unit is equal to 1 mg. So 50 mg would be 50 units, would be 0.5 a syringe.
16:29Speaker 4But you need to work your way up to that. You cannot just start at 50 or like we're just talking to her friend, like, you'll get an overwhelming tingling sensation where you need to sit down and breathe through it and,
16:40Speaker 4not fall over. So
16:43Speaker 4if you're doing 50 units, kill it. Good. Go. But maybe if you're only doing 5, hey, let's work your way up. Okay?
16:49Speaker 4The Glow, so every other day,
16:52Speaker 4Glow,
16:53Speaker 41 unit. I mean, I guess, so again, I think you're doing 10 units, but it should the Glow, I think that you're right. I would be doing 10 units, which works out to be 0.5 of a milligram
17:05Speaker 4BPC, 0.5 a mill milligram TB, and 2.5
17:08Speaker 4mg of,
17:10Speaker 4GHKCu.
17:11Speaker 4Yeah. Now that's great. Would do that. I wouldn't do any more than that. I I would if if we're talking just TB BPC,
17:18Speaker 40.5 a milligram of each, that's about the lowest effective dose.
17:21Speaker 4Would At least a moment. You to go, you know, go a little bit more, but if it's from a maintenance, the problem is the GHKCU,
17:27Speaker 4you don't wanna go too high on that stuff. So 2.5 mg,
17:31Speaker 4I think, is about safely really all you wanna do in per dose.
17:35Speaker 4So nothing you could do with that, but that's a great maintenance dose and you'll notice it in your skin and and your body will feel better.
17:41Speaker 4Yep.
17:42Speaker 4Tesamorelin,
17:44Speaker 42.5 units. I don't know. My get I would do Tesamorelin for a woman,
17:48Speaker 4500 micrograms or 0.5 of a milligram.
17:52Speaker 4Maybe
17:52Speaker 4maybe even start at 2 50 micrograms. It's 0.25 of a milligram.
17:57Speaker 4Max out at 1000 micrograms, AKA 1 mg. I don't know if many you were worried about any some water retention that might be high for a woman. Yeah. But,
18:06Speaker 4keep it low and consistent is better than high and potentially getting water retention. If you do that, just lower it down. Now,
18:14Speaker 4so those are some suggestions.
18:17Speaker 4My guess, what does she say she's doing on the Tirzepatide?
18:21Speaker 1If she's doing that sounds about right.
18:23Speaker 1She's taking
18:25Speaker 40.5, I think, 3 times a week, I think, every other day. Yeah. So 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. That works. So it's like 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Here's how would you do it? How would we do the switching? Here's the thing. I would say
18:41Speaker 4you equally
18:42Speaker 4so if you're doing tirzepatide or doing 5 units 3 times a week,
18:47Speaker 4I would start the Reta and do start with
18:51Speaker 45 units maybe in like 2.5. Let's see if we had to split it by 3, I would just perfectly
18:56Speaker 4replace
18:57Speaker 4milligram for milligram
18:59Speaker 4until it's gone over a,
19:02Speaker 4I don't know, 3 week time period.
19:05Speaker 4I would just subtly
19:07Speaker 4enter, I don't know, introduce it. Maybe I need to think about that math and the math on it, but go ahead, JD. That's a low I mean, that's a really low dose of tirzepatide.
19:16Speaker 1I think,
19:17Speaker 1I was actually wondering how you're gonna answer that. I think because it's such a low dose, you could just switch them. I
19:22Speaker 1don't think that it's really going to be that big of a difference. Now, if you were taking like 6 mg,
19:27Speaker 1that's a very different situation. You're taking a milligram and 0.5,
19:31Speaker 1which is really low interest appetite. Mean, shoot, people are taking 15 mg of that stuff. So I think if you just switched it to to Reta at the same milligram,
19:39Speaker 1I think you'd do pretty good in just doing that. I would agree. That's that is my problem is there's not much room to It's just so low. There's not enough room to wiggle. I would probably just,
19:49Speaker 1yep,
19:50Speaker 1slump her out 1 day. And we'll nail it. I've heard so. Tesamorelin for women, I think, is amazing. Like he said, the only only thing is you can gain some water weight and are kind of, you know, get that. So that's easy to tell. Just go go low and slow.
20:04Speaker 1What I would do for the so so MOTS-3.
20:08Speaker 1Obviously, love MOTS-3.1.
20:11Speaker 1Yeah. The more we dug into that, we will probably both agree on that. Start with
20:16Speaker 1the SS-31because it's going to repair the mitochondria
20:19Speaker 11st and then go into the MOTS-C.
20:22Speaker 1So I would recommend starting with the SS-31then
20:24Speaker 1bring in the MOTS-C. Now, if you wanted to do because you're an an active gal and if you wanted to have stuff, especially for what type of workouts you're doing with like yoga and like Pilates and all that stuff, I've been doing this Yogalates thing with my bride like 3 times a week. Holy moly. Now it's a hot 1, but, dude, it's freaking that's those girls get after it. Yeah. They do. So I've I've liked Push your limits. Train with precision. See the results.
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21:00Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
21:07Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
21:15Speaker 2Yeah. It's chicken shawarma.
21:17Speaker 2Wanted that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo Mastercard is issued by the Bancorp, Bank NA. Yeah. I've enjoyed it. I I focus on my my stomach, so
21:48Speaker 4I like that idea also. Because SS-thirty 1, part of what it's doing is
21:53Speaker 4just is,
21:55Speaker 4like, making the outer mitochondrial
21:58Speaker 4shell really strong, so there is no leaks because MOTS-3C is now gonna push a whole bunch of energy in inside of this and that energy needs to be created and needs to be
22:08Speaker 4shuttled to you very efficiently. Yeah. And it can't be loud to leak out the sides. Yeah. So 1st, you wanna, you're basically like insulating the house. Right? Then we're turning the heat on so it can- Yeah. The heat. Because all these things that pop out, any leaks, that's like free radicals and inflammation, etcetera, and it's all bad. You take the MOTS-1.1 1st and your mitochondria is not doing well. We have found with some people that have had this issue where they just get
22:36Speaker 1because they're not really, it's not doing well. Like repair it 1st, then going for the MOTS-1C, then when you do the MOTS-1C, it will do well. Yeah. Alright. Let's see here.
22:46Speaker 1I'm 44 year old and currently taking
22:49Speaker 1Selank for anxiety disorder.
22:52Speaker 1Clo to maintain good skin. MOTS-three,
22:55Speaker 1SS-thirty
22:56Speaker 11, doctor says cellular nutrition could use work.
23:00Speaker 1TA-one, BPC-157
23:02Speaker 1mostly localized
23:03Speaker 1around the injury. DSIP,
23:05Speaker 1Retta,
23:07Speaker 1maintenance dose, whatever that is, and Kisspeptin.
23:11Speaker 1Next week, starting CJC, Ipa, Blend, and KPV.
23:14Speaker 1I'll be stopping Retta next week.
23:17Speaker 1Can I take Tesofensine
23:19Speaker 1while on these other things?
23:21Speaker 1Also, I was diagnosed with osteopenia
23:24Speaker 1and
23:26Speaker 1sarcopenia
23:27Speaker 1back in February.
23:29Speaker 1This is the, reason I'm on a few of the CJC,
23:32Speaker 1Ipah, and Kisspeptin also because I'm low a bit in estrogen and progesterone.
23:38Speaker 1Would there be a better stack?
23:41Speaker 4It's a good 1, man. Think that's really good. I think that it sounds like it's a doctor that has told you this to do this. I'm like, I wanna know who that doctor is because good job. Yeah. The doctor's using all of the resources that are available to him in medicine. So good for him. I don't see any problem with anything you're taking. I don't know other
23:59Speaker 4than what I just read, but everything looks good. To answer your question, says absolutely. Tesofensine like spot on. That's a great
24:08Speaker 4thing to use when replacing any of the GLP-1.5 folks, if y'all want to, if anybody wants to get off the GLPs, adding in like Tesla fencing would be my go to,
24:19Speaker 4to do the best you can to, you know, cause it helps lower
24:23Speaker 4your appetite. It gives you some, gives you extra energy starting in your brain and it's kind of the next best thing. Yeah.
24:31Speaker 4So yes, I think you're on the right track
24:35Speaker 4Without knowing more, I can't really Yeah. I can't,
24:38Speaker 1I don't know, say anything to the stack, but that looks awesome. You seem like you're doing the right things. Yeah, if you did some research, done some analysis doctor, then you've done great. You know, you wanna focus on sleep, diet, and obviously the
24:50Speaker 1sleep's going keep your cortisol
24:52Speaker 1down. You could,
24:55Speaker 1you're 44, you could replace the Tesamorelin,
24:59Speaker 1right?
25:12Speaker 4I've
25:13Speaker 1literally had it. My wife has had it, and I know multiple people. Now I'm not saying it's a bad compound.
25:18Speaker 1It just runs the higher risk, and I just think there's better secretagogues,
25:22Speaker 1personally. So I would say either run Tesamorelin.
25:25Speaker 1I think you'd do better with that than the CJC or
25:28Speaker 1HGH
25:29Speaker 1or a 4 year old gal. You know, HGH is amazing. Just 1 IU
25:34Speaker 1is all that you would need for that. Tesofensine
25:37Speaker 1is great. Well, I wolf agree now. I've obviously changed my mind on it, but I love it. The only thing I would just be a little careful is because you get energy,
25:48Speaker 1is your anxiety ridden, so just be prepared because it does give you energy. And some people that might rev up that anxiety a little bit, but, just go slow. Right? Mhmm. Think you'd be good. Yep. Test test 50 is great. Yes. Yeah. Alright.
26:01Speaker 4Next. Hey, guys. I'm really enjoying all the content you put out in the school community. Right on.
26:06Speaker 4There's so much information to learn and absorb. It's amazing. If someone is wanting to start down the mitochondrial journey, which peptide would you recommend 1st? Then which order should you run the other peptides?
26:18Speaker 4I've been reading a lot of the tiered system
26:22Speaker 4and how 1 peptide will be more efficient if ran before another peptide based on how it works in your body. Thanks again. Boom.
26:30Speaker 1Well, yeah,
26:31Speaker 4we did kind of answer that. Think, so 1st of all, mitochondrial
26:34Speaker 4journey,
26:37Speaker 4some things that will almost be more help to your mitochondria
26:40Speaker 4besides
26:41Speaker 4peptides and will do amazing things taken together, right, is like, 1st of all, let's get like our lifestyle factors
26:49Speaker 4dialed in. So if I don't so sleep consistency,
26:54Speaker 4hydration,
26:55Speaker 1sunlight,
26:56Speaker 4exercise,
26:57Speaker 4movement,
26:58Speaker 4protein intake, resistance training, and what's my last thing is, yes, so glucose control, like, just sweets cut out the sweets.
27:06Speaker 4All of those things are kind of the basic fundamentals
27:10Speaker 4fundamentals that
27:12Speaker 4will your body will respond to so fast. Right? Literally. And will do wonders for you. I know that's a tall order. Like, if it I mean, easier said than done, I suppose. But
27:22Speaker 4sleep
27:24Speaker 4sleep is huge. Start there. So then then I think we did answer that. If you were to ask me on this guy, I'd say you start with SS-thirty 1.
27:32Speaker 4K?
27:33Speaker 4There are a few different peptides. So SS-31s
27:36Speaker 4is gonna help
27:38Speaker 4help ensure the, like, the outer coating of your mitochondria. K?
27:42Speaker 4MOTS-c is gonna help give some energy to the mitochondria.
27:46Speaker 4FOX-four
27:48Speaker 4helps
27:49Speaker 4clear out dead cells, not necessarily mitochondria,
27:53Speaker 4but cells, which are cellular level. So then so then we have more newer cells can keep growing, replicating,
28:01Speaker 4and grow bigger because the there's not a whole bunch of trash in front of them. Mhmm.
28:05Speaker 4NAD
28:06Speaker 4will
28:07Speaker 4help
28:09Speaker 4newer, help cells replicate and rotate strong and big and healthy,
28:14Speaker 4and plus giving more energy to them. There's a whole long list of things that NAD will do.
28:19Speaker 4And,
28:20Speaker 4what are we missing? So I don't know. I would do SS-thirty 1 1st,
28:24Speaker 4and then I would do MOTS-1.0
28:26Speaker 4Next.
28:27Speaker 4I'm not I don't know. I told you what FOX-04does.
28:31Speaker 4I don't
28:32Speaker 4it's tough to quantify how much that actually works.
28:35Speaker 1I don't know. Yeah. I don't know how you're gonna- I don't know. But if it works out reads, I think I've taken it once. I don't know. I fast so much, so it kind of does what fasting does with the autophagy and stuff like that. But if it does do that, which I would imagine it does, because they've obviously been looking into it, it literally wipes out dirty cells. Yep. Brand new ones take their place. You look younger, you feel younger, it's amazing. So that's what Topaji does.
28:59Speaker 1It's funny because was, you were just going through your answer and mine's basically
29:03Speaker 1the same. I mean, I wrote down foundation, foundation, foundation, build your foundation
29:08Speaker 1and then build on top of it. This isn't, we don't know if you're a man or a woman. So hormones
29:13Speaker 1being optimized for a man or a woman
29:16Speaker 1are
29:17Speaker 1huge. It's part of that foundation. I think it's the literally like the bolts of everything. I think that's the most important than diet, exercise, resistance training,
29:26Speaker 1cutting out the sugars,
29:27Speaker 1you know, like sugar should be used as a treat,
29:31Speaker 1you know,
29:33Speaker 1and just be conscious of like seed oils best you can.
29:36Speaker 1People don't realize that if
29:38Speaker 1you just do that,
29:40Speaker 1gosh, man, you'd feel so much better. Just seed oils and sugars. If you just cut those suckers out for a month, you would feel amazing.
29:47Speaker 1And then you build a taunt on top of that, and then Will already nailed it. It's SS-31like
29:52Speaker 1you said. You could run NAD now.
29:54Speaker 1I would run the SS-31and
29:55Speaker 1the NAD and then add in the MOTS-3.
29:58Speaker 1Wow.
29:59Speaker 1So
30:00Speaker 4Cool.
30:02Speaker 4Alright.
30:03Speaker 1I think you're up. Alright. Hi, guys. I'm 61,
30:06Speaker 1man, year old man who has lifted his whole life. Hell yeah. Recently, the wife and I have gotten into peptides and are seeing great results.
30:14Speaker 1I'm taking AOD,
30:16Speaker 1Wolverine,
30:17Speaker 1DSIP, Somatropin,
30:19Speaker 1and MK-677
30:21Speaker 1right now. Great. Oh, I broke great. Recently,
30:24Speaker 1you had a legendary Jay Campbell on and it was our favorite episode. However, at the end of the podcast, Jay basically said HGH was worthless. I don't remember him saying that. What was it about? To older
30:36Speaker 1men such as us
30:38Speaker 1and you 2 didn't disagree with him, was this showing
30:41Speaker 1difference
30:42Speaker 1to him as every other podcast you 2 seem to say HGH is nothing but good. I have told
30:49Speaker 1many people to go to your podcast, keep it up, keep up spreading the pep tag gospel.
30:54Speaker 1Phil Smith, Eugene, Oregon. That was rad. I don't remember that, do you? I don't remember
30:59Speaker 4think that I would have been conscious.
31:01Speaker 1Maybe sometimes as we're doing podcasts, as everybody's know, we're
31:05Speaker 1you you're kind of thinking of the next questions, and sometimes you might have missed it. That probably is it because I I don't wanna answer for you. But HGH is like Yeah. You should be taking HGH.
31:14Speaker 1I don't remember Campbell saying that. I know Campbell, and I know that he takes HGH, so I can't imagine him saying that. Yeah. Why are you well, here's But I'm messing lying. I just don't remember. Right. Here's what I think I will say about HGH is everybody does think
31:26Speaker 4it's like this miracle drug. Right? Like, the when baseball players got in trouble for using steroids and PEDs and everybody's like, oh, they're all taking growth HGH. Right? Everybody thought that, man, it's such a performance enhancing drug. Like, it's just,
31:40Speaker 4I will it'll HGH is a long play and a very and it's very subtle. Yeah. So, like, somebody you introduce testosterone versus HGH. Testosterone is like,
31:51Speaker 4you know, hugely
31:52Speaker 4you're gonna see so much more results in such shorter time.
31:58Speaker 4So HGH is not this miracle drug. It is, it does take long. It's a long term thing. I honestly wouldn't expect results for 6 months, right? After doing it daily,
32:08Speaker 4you could do doing a low dose.
32:11Speaker 4And I do think it's absolutely better for the older you are, the more effective it's going to be because inherently you're gonna have lower
32:19Speaker 4HGH levels naturally, and we need those, we need high growth levels to repair. Okay?
32:26Speaker 4And so I don't think he said that, but I do think it's not worthless. I think that in a the question might be,
32:34Speaker 4in an older man,
32:36Speaker 4the secretagogues,
32:37Speaker 4k, you know what he did say was worthless? His nootropics.
32:41Speaker 4He said for him, he's like, I don't feel any nootropics.
32:44Speaker 4I kind of agree with that.
32:46Speaker 4Anyway, so your pituitary, the secretagogues
32:49Speaker 4that tell your brain pituitary, hey man, let's go fire and make some more,
32:54Speaker 4natural growth.
32:55Speaker 4If
32:56Speaker 4your pituitary function is not
33:00Speaker 4any good to start with,
33:02Speaker 4really-
33:03Speaker 4Too much. It can't be enhanced that much more. So that
33:07Speaker 4could be the problem. That could be a possible answer, but I definitely don't, I mean, especially- You remember the new tropics, so maybe you got it mixed up. I do remember that. Do not, but dude, you've re watched it. Like we're not, you totally could be right.
33:20Speaker 1We do some talking and talking, but-
33:24Speaker 1So if we agreed, we were probably not super coherent at that question, we might have been thinking of the next because we're both extremely huge fans of HGH and at your age, you should absolutely be taking it. I mean, dude, recovery,
33:36Speaker 1sleep, skin quality,
33:38Speaker 4bigger. I mean, I could go on and on for somebody your age. So definitely take 1 of these things that's funny. Growth is like, you take it and you go, okay. I don't know. Like, you know it's working because your knuckles start to, like, feel swollen. Right? Yeah. They're like, I is it really doing anything? How are you? So therefore it is subtle, but when you stop taking it a couple of weeks past, you go, oh, that's what it was like. Like,
34:00Speaker 4am I gaining fat? I haven't done anything more. Why are my muscles
34:04Speaker 4not just always
34:06Speaker 4full all the time? And why am I losing any muscle?
34:09Speaker 4Because that's what normally everybody happens
34:12Speaker 4when we're not in pants. But, so I would, I totally agree that it is kind of a subtle play, but
34:18Speaker 4it's not worthless. And if Jay is taking it, I don't think he would say it's worthless and take it.
34:23Speaker 1And on your stack, it's funny because before I got to the end of your question, I remember I was underlining and I said, great. You must be listening to the podcast because that is something that I would say to take. So,
34:34Speaker 1I don't see TRT on here. I'm almost certain at your age you take TRT, but hopefully you do. But other than that, that stack's awesome, man. I love that. And that NK-six 77 at your age will
34:43Speaker 1show you a little of bulk. Absolutely. Good stack. So, yeah, take HGH. If we said that, we, spoke out a term.
34:50Speaker 1Yeah. We agree with HGH.
34:52Speaker 4Yeah. Speaking of
34:54Speaker 439
34:55Speaker 4year old, 39 year old looking to start HGH. Currently taking Retta, NAD, and Wolverine for 7 weeks now. Which HGH
35:05Speaker 4do you find most effective?
35:07Speaker 4Also waiting to start Tessa or MOTS-3C.
35:10Speaker 4Thoughts on that as well. Wanting to really lean out. 58188.
35:15Speaker 4Thanks for the insight and inspiration. Number 1 Idaho potato farmer.
35:19Speaker 4Okay. So 1st answer, you said, hey. Which HGH do we find most effective? So I actually meant to bring, like, an example, but
35:28Speaker 4here are some clarifications.
35:29Speaker 4You will see
35:31Speaker 4Somatropin,
35:32Speaker 4you'll see Cerebrostem.
35:34Speaker 4Gyntropin. Gyntropin,
35:36Speaker 4they're all the same. Those are brand names and usually brand names devise,
35:41Speaker 4named after, like, the delivery system. Right? So, like,
35:45Speaker 4there's no difference. They're all recombinant,
35:48Speaker 4right? HGH,
35:50Speaker 4191
35:50Speaker 4amino acids. All right?
35:52Speaker 1There's no difference. Okay.
35:54Speaker 4Whether you have a pen injecting it, whether you do the own injection, it doesn't matter. IU for IU,
35:59Speaker 4same thing. Okay.
36:02Speaker 4Then the question might be, they've seen what's so what what should I do? 100 IU kit, a 150
36:08Speaker 4kit, 200 IU kit, or a or 240
36:11Speaker 4IU kit. Right? There's
36:13Speaker 4no difference also. Those are all the same.
36:17Speaker 4And
36:18Speaker 4all they are is like a 6 pack, 12 pack, 18 pack, a 30 pack. Right? To put it. All you're getting is just more
36:25Speaker 4more more substance.
36:27Speaker 4Last longer. And, you know, and you're getting the cost more, but a little bit better price
36:31Speaker 4because you're buying more in bulk. So that's the only difference.
36:37Speaker 4So there you go.
36:39Speaker 1And
36:40Speaker 1He might be talking about, like, when people say grow,
36:43Speaker 1HGH
36:44Speaker 1peptides, they're usually talking about secretagogues. So
36:48Speaker 1some people get confused by actual HGH, which is we like somatropin,
36:54Speaker 1which is actual HGH or injecting HGH compared towards the secretagogues
36:59Speaker 1in different ways with what they do, but like CJC, Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin,
37:03Speaker 1all those, they're going to help your body to make its own You're
37:06Speaker 1not injecting
37:08Speaker 1HGH,
37:09Speaker 1it's going to help your body to make more. So for older people,
37:13Speaker 1that's why we generally ask, well, how old is he? Oh, he's over 40. So we'll generally say someone drove an HGH. If it was like a 23 year old, I would say stay away from security. I wouldn't do anything. Anyway. You wouldn't do anything too stupid. Like, but, yeah. So, like, age plays a role in some of this. And just, you know, on a side note, and we appreciate every 1 of these questions. 1 thing that I would like, you know, for listeners if you're gonna write in, especially male, but even women, like, let us know, like, if you are hormonally optimized, if you are taking
37:45Speaker 1testosterone and just a little extra sometimes with those types of things can give us a little bit better of a answer because we know a little bit more about you. Yep. So the answer, let's say, which growth HGH
37:57Speaker 4secretagogue
37:58Speaker 4do you think is the best? I would go with the Tesamorelin slash Ipamorelin blend.
38:03Speaker 4K? The final answer. Tesamorelin
38:05Speaker 4is awesome. I just think that it is
38:07Speaker 4Yeah. It's gonna help burn fat. It's gonna help burn your belly fat. It's gonna help burn, visceral
38:12Speaker 4fat, which is the fat on your organs, and that's the bad stuff. Yeah. And
38:17Speaker 4will and be very effective. And then Ipamorelin
38:20Speaker 4is there to just kinda help out and push more growth for everyone. They synergistically
38:25Speaker 4work better. Right? Taking Tesla
38:27Speaker 4by itself is gonna be effective, but taking Tesla and Ipamorelin is has a synergistic effect.
38:33Speaker 4So that would be my choice. Also,
38:37Speaker 4if you do, but you're also saying, I also wanna start TESS. So if you take here's the thing, HGH,
38:42Speaker 4exogenous HGH, 191 amino acids, you're already taking that, and then you take a secretagogue also,
38:49Speaker 4your brain's pituitary is not gonna be open to making it more natural growth hormone because it goes, hey, how much do I have? A whole lot already.
38:59Speaker 4You give it a secretagogue, it's gonna go, sorry, dude. I already have a lot, and it's not the secretagogue
39:04Speaker 4adding Tesamorelin
39:05Speaker 4on top of actually exogenous HGH isn't going to do much. Although you will get the effects of the fat burning visceral fat of Tesamorelin.
39:14Speaker 4And
39:15Speaker 4then it's up to you to choose Tessa Ipamorelin, 5 mg,
39:21Speaker 410 mg,
39:22Speaker 43 mg. Which is a good 1. Which is a good 1. Like, a lot of people, the the IpA
39:28Speaker 4can make it too strong for some people. Like, if we take a equal Tessa and Ipamorelin,
39:33Speaker 1they
39:34Speaker 4worry about,
39:35Speaker 4that can make them retain water a lot And
39:39Speaker 4so having a little Ipam,
39:41Speaker 4but mostly Tessa,
39:43Speaker 1like that idea. Yeah. But it's up to you. Yeah, that's great. I had that the other day, somebody asked, why do I recommend women to just do the Tesa? That's why. He's a Tesa. So a little bit of Ipamore be great, but if it's like ten-ten or it's
39:55Speaker 1a little bit too much for women, don't need deal with it a bit. Great way to explain that though.
40:00Speaker 1All right. Firefighter from El Paso, Texas, 37 years old, been following you guys for about 2 months. You're literally my workout music. I love it. Got injured in a fire, had shoulder surgery and went from squatting 5.75s
40:15Speaker 1and benching 3 65
40:17Speaker 1to starting over. Gained a lot of weight in the process. January
40:21Speaker 12026,
40:23Speaker 1I got back at it. 6 days a week, protein and veggies only went from 2.43
40:28Speaker 1to 2.21. That's awesome. Then hit a plateau. Pretty standard. Got on Reta, 2 Migs Monday and Thursday.
40:35Speaker 1Moving to 3 Migs next week. 1st 2 weeks, I gained 2 pounds but lost 2 inches of my waist.
40:42Speaker 1At week 3, I dropped 3 pounds.
40:45Speaker 1Full body scan showed 4.93
40:47Speaker 1pounds of visceral fat.
40:49Speaker 1Why did I gain weight but lose inches on Lareda? Should I add Tesamorelin for the visceral fat? And if so, what's the dosing look like alongside Retta?
41:00Speaker 1Also as a firefighter,
41:02Speaker 1my sleep is trash.
41:04Speaker 1Does Tesamorelin
41:05Speaker 1help or is there something better?
41:07Speaker 1And what's the budget look like running both?
41:11Speaker 1Good question, man. I think that 37,
41:14Speaker 1so thank you. You know, like you guys, I love firemen because when everybody's running that way, you're running that way and a huge, huge, huge respect. Do you want me to run it? You want me go ahead. Go ahead. I'll answer. Yeah, so I
41:27Speaker 1dealt with this a lot when I was doing some training with guys.
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42:31Speaker 1man, we guess I think we're just so caught up in wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, where you'd lost inches, inches, inches. Do you look better? Do you feel better? It's working. Yeah. Right? So I
42:41Speaker 1would just stop
42:44Speaker 1looking at the scale
42:45Speaker 1for a while and just stay on course. I promise you, if you're doing things right, you are going to have success. It's a promise unless you deviate.
42:55Speaker 1Here's the thing that jumped out at me on you is your sleep is trash. And, your age, I don't think, I think that, Will and I both are gonna kind of sit on this more and more just because
43:05Speaker 1it is huge and we haven't talked about it enough. Sleep is the absolute
43:10Speaker 1it is literally the most important thing you heal,
43:13Speaker 1your body heals in that sleep.
43:16Speaker 1And if you sleep like shit, which, you know, I've told my story because I like to share what's going on with me. I've never battled cortisol.
43:22Speaker 1I've read about it for years. I just never had ever really
43:25Speaker 1met it met it eye to eye
43:28Speaker 1recently and it knocked me on my ass, dude. I could not lose
43:32Speaker 1this belly fat that I got almost overnight. It was weird. It drove me crazy.
43:36Speaker 1That is your body keeping that fat because it wants to live. And if your cortisol is high,
43:42Speaker 1you're not gonna lose it. You're not gonna lose it. You need to get your cortisol down.
43:46Speaker 1So little some tricks. I can go over some sleep stuff that has worked radically for me. I mean, I tried everything and magnesium
43:56Speaker 1glycinate,
43:56Speaker 1ashwagandha,
43:57Speaker 1like just stuff like that. Oh my God, it's
44:00Speaker 1slow releasing melatonin.
44:02Speaker 1My sleep has been so amazing. I haven't slept like this in years. So
44:07Speaker 1if you hear this, you shoot me a DM anywhere and I'll actually go through that. I actually posted something the other day about what is my actual stack and I went through like not just my supplements, but all supplements and I added it in there.
44:18Speaker 1I'd love to send it to you and try it. So get your sleep under wraps, brother.
44:23Speaker 1Now I'm gonna tell you, Tesamorelin is amazing. I loved it. It jacked up my sleep and Ret is known to do that. I'm not deterring you from them. I'm just saying that
44:33Speaker 1what I would recommend if you do them is I would do them in the morning and not do them at night because that's
44:39Speaker 1something that could help you with that a little bit. Because I think really, brother, your main thing is getting that sleep because
44:46Speaker 1that's bigger than even like testosterone. Even if you're on testosterone, you won't burn
44:50Speaker 1Cortisol takes the top seat even over testosterone. So
44:55Speaker 1you don't say if you're on TRT, I'm assuming you are, if you're not,
44:58Speaker 1Google's Bloomberg, let's see where you're at. Let's fix that.
45:03Speaker 1But yeah, that's what I'm going to say to you, brother, is you obviously can throw in some DSIP. And,
45:08Speaker 1know, we've said it numerous times where
45:10Speaker 1we like to talk about peptides,
45:12Speaker 1but
45:13Speaker 1getting like hormones
45:15Speaker 1in line, getting sleep in line, obviously getting your diet in line, they are, they far as are, they take the top seat before peptides because peptides are just going to work a little bit unless you get that stuff in line.
45:27Speaker 1Hope that helped, but, I've been there, man. So, I fixed it and it's been freaking amazing.
45:33Speaker 4Alright. Right on you. I 2nd, like, most of that. Yeah. I mean, yes, everything you said, I agree with. The sleep is huge, huge, huge. The the cortisol comes from, yes, us being stressed out, and our body perceives stress different ways. Right? You don't have sleep or an irregular sleep schedule. Your body thinks it's in this your body is in this fight or flight state, right, and is producing cortisol. So that sucks and there's not much you can do about it because that is your livelihood and you would help people, good for you.
46:01Speaker 4But
46:02Speaker 4you can't just try to keep yourself, your body like limit
46:06Speaker 4alcohol.
46:07Speaker 4Yeah.
46:08Speaker 4Maximize
46:09Speaker 4sunlight,
46:10Speaker 4maximize exercise,
46:11Speaker 4all of those things will at least-
46:14Speaker 1outside, get sun. Yep. Like old school stuff that like, I think we all like did so much more
46:20Speaker 1a long time ago that we've just changed. We're inside, our faces in a phone. You know what I mean? Like even me, I'm an active dude, but I've been working. I just, I was outside yesterday and with my kids and my wife outside and I was, God, I haven't been in the damn sun forever. Like it felt great. You know, like I'm talking to myself too, man. Like we get so caught up in this little ball. But man, if we get back to old school,
46:43Speaker 1walking on the grass- For sure. Sitting on a beach,
46:46Speaker 1like letting the waves
46:48Speaker 1I'll tell you a quick little story because it's such a rad story. When my mom passed when I was 20, I went to get my haircut by this little Asian gal. I was obviously distraught, know? Like I was shook up, you know? And she could see that I was distraught And she says, What's going on, sweetie? I'm getting my haircut to go basically bury my mom, right? And she says, Sweetie, you need to go down to the beach and you need to take off your shoes and you need to sit by the water and let the water just slowly come up and hit your feet. And she said, Your body is going to calm down and it's gonna settle and it's gonna calm me down because we're in the womb for 9 months
47:20Speaker 1and our body's gonna remember that feeling. I was like, kind of like,
47:24Speaker 1kind of woo woo, but I did it. Oh god, I just have done it ever since. It is such an amazing, like, and the point of that story is sometimes
47:32Speaker 1you just gotta get back to the basics of the stuff that like our ancestors, we don't, they didn't have peptides.
47:38Speaker 1They took walks on the without their shoes on.
47:41Speaker 4So hope that helps. They took showers in the freezing cold Yep.
47:46Speaker 4Right? That's your like ice bath and shocking your system. They also chased animals down and like killed them with their bare hands and ate lots of well, probably vegetables. Right? Because that's a they could eat some plants, but they ate lots of fat and protein. Yeah. We didn't get the buffalo tonight, honey. We're eating some weeds. We're eating weed. So
48:03Speaker 4all that stuff is good, and that's why we were healthier, robust, more robust people back then. Now we died easier from little diseases
48:10Speaker 4because we didn't have doctors, but, okay, back to this. Tesamorelin, a 100% visceral fat, get rid of that stuff, dude. I would attack that with Tesamorelin
48:18Speaker 4and Retta.
48:20Speaker 4Alright?
48:21Speaker 4You'd asked about dosages, mice. For a grown male,
48:24Speaker 4which you are, I would say an equal Tessa Ipi,
48:30Speaker 4choose the blend that where you get equal, okay? Like 5 mg, 5 mg.
48:34Speaker 4Would probably start at 0.5 of a milligram
48:37Speaker 4of each
48:39Speaker 4daily
48:40Speaker 4and see if you can progress to 1 mg
48:43Speaker 4each
48:44Speaker 4daily. Okay? Tessa Ipi.
48:46Speaker 4For Reta, I start with 1 mg 3 times a week.
48:50Speaker 4Usually, it's 10 units, okay, 3 times a week. See how you do it. You might go down from there. I would say just do that
48:58Speaker 4for 2 weeks.
48:59Speaker 4See how you feel, see how you look. If you feel like you need to go up, then you bump up by 0.5 a milligram each 1 of those injections.
49:06Speaker 4It might be too strong. You might be like, damn dude, I'm not even eating anything. That's too strong. Just lower it down to, to, 0.5 of a milligram 3 times a week.
49:16Speaker 4Okay?
49:17Speaker 4And yeah, you were a big strong dude, so I hope you get back there. That sucks having an injury and thank you. But mention 3 65 squatting 5 75, if they're real squats,
49:27Speaker 4that 5 75 squat is the more important, more impressive 1 by the way. Just because dudes always like that, lay down, push stuff. That's easy, but like squatting that much and actually putting on your back and not telling me you leg press 1000 pounds because no 1 cares,
49:43Speaker 4is more important.
49:44Speaker 4Okay.
49:45Speaker 4I think it's my turn. 2 parts. Paraminopausal
49:48Speaker 4women, what do you recommend if they're taking small amounts of hormones but need energy as well as healing body inflammation for chronic pain? Also, do you recommend anything for young growing athletes?
50:02Speaker 4My
50:03Speaker 4suggestion on this paramedopausal
50:06Speaker 4women, okay, we have had this question and similar questions a lot. I have no, you know, firsthand experience,
50:12Speaker 4but you're looking for to reduce inflammation and chronic pain. Like BPC
50:16Speaker 4TB blend, I don't care. The Wolverine blend is,
50:20Speaker 4like, so proven and used.
50:22Speaker 4Everybody's using it. That stuff just works, works, works, works. I would maintenance I would I guess I would start off like a loading phase of a milligram a day. Watch what happens. Like a milligram a day for 2 weeks.
50:35Speaker 4Then you can maybe back that down to a milligram of each, 3 days a week. Make that part of your regimen. Watch the inflammation and any, like, pain, stiffness go away.
50:44Speaker 4Sermorelin
50:45Speaker 4is also a good secretagogue for women,
50:49Speaker 4with perimenopause.
50:50Speaker 4So if you feel like that because that's gonna help us so many things. Right?
50:55Speaker 4I would recommend nothing for young growing athletes for peptides.
50:59Speaker 1No age, so I don't really know, but I figured we'd both answer that same way. I mean, it comes up quite a bit.
51:07Speaker 1I just will put you in issues how I'll answer it for my sons, which they will be 1 day in high school sports. And BPC TV, I will give to them for sure. They will have injuries. I wish I had it in high school, but other than that, nothing.
51:20Speaker 1Their bodies are young and they will heal. They will heal. They're supposed to have energy injuries,
51:24Speaker 1and that's part of the game when it comes to sports and whatnot.
51:27Speaker 1But the TB and the BPC are so freaking safe,
51:30Speaker 1so freaking safe. And, I would do that for my sons. Other than that, nothing. And then for you, I guess, NAD, like energy energy NAD is awesome.
51:40Speaker 1And just
51:42Speaker 1v v 12, some like v 12 injections.
51:46Speaker 1That is good, good energy. So that's all I got.
51:50Speaker 1I know. I would say, he
51:52Speaker 1said Wolverine. I would say the CLO because I wanna I wanna add in some KPV.
51:56Speaker 1And then the TA-one
51:58Speaker 1is great for bringing inflammation down and
52:02Speaker 1it's just great. It's an amazing peptide and it'll keep you from getting sick and it's just awesome.
52:09Speaker 1So I would run those.
52:11Speaker 1You can add a little extra Wolverine on top if you need to.
52:14Speaker 1You kind of go slow and just see, but I think the CLO would go well for you.
52:18Speaker 1And like Will said, NAD is great, which you can move into again, the SS-31and
52:23Speaker 1then the MOTS C. And then, you know, like this, the standard, let's just be redundant for a reason.
52:29Speaker 1Resistance training,
52:31Speaker 1protein,
52:32Speaker 1protein. I don't think women realize that they need as much protein as they should, but, I had, anybody, if anybody listens to the other podcasts I have with Eva,
52:41Speaker 1she's very seasoned for women.
52:44Speaker 1And, her answer to some stuff was eat protein right when you wake up for women. And I was like, I'd never heard any woman say that. So I thought it was awesome. So for you 2 ladies, eat some protein. Make sure you get your protein in. Women just don't. And let's say creatine, dude. Creatine does not get talked about. Creatine is freaking amazing, and literally everybody listening to this should be taking it. That's just
53:06Speaker 1universe Men and women. Doesn't matter. Creatine's
53:09Speaker 1amazing.
53:10Speaker 1So yeah, that should work right there, man. Yep.
53:14Speaker 4All right. You're up.
53:16Speaker 1All right. New to peptides here and I have not taken any. I'm currently breastfeeding,
53:22Speaker 1so after I wean my baby,
53:24Speaker 1I'm wanting to take something to help build muscle and lose fat. Looking for a low dose,
53:30Speaker 1I'm generally lean and muscular. What would you recommend?
53:34Speaker 1I am also curious about your dosing
53:37Speaker 1recommendations for semaglutide
53:39Speaker 1for longevity
53:40Speaker 1and inflammation. Love the podcast.
53:43Speaker 1I know what you're gonna say. Go for it. My recommendation is take 0 mg of semaglutide. Semaglutide sucks. Run.
53:50Speaker 1Aboard.
53:51Speaker 4It sucks. You know, yes.
53:54Speaker 4And I would take Retta instead.
53:56Speaker 4And just
53:58Speaker 4honestly, for like a super low dose help with lung inflammation,
54:01Speaker 4longevity,
54:02Speaker 4neuroprotection,
54:03Speaker 4right? The 0.5 of a milligram, 3 times a week with Retta.
54:08Speaker 4Now what do I take for muscle
54:11Speaker 4buildinglose
54:12Speaker 4fat? So those are gonna be definitely 2 different things.
54:17Speaker 4There is a lot I think Retta is the 1st depends on which
54:22Speaker 4you weigh. Yeah. And
54:25Speaker 4I don't know. I mean, I don't wanna say you have to do a bulk and a cut because you actually don't, but Reta for sure for burning fat. I would I would absolutely get on that and and low dose it. And muscle building for women
54:38Speaker 4and and fat burning, Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin blend. The secretagog HGH secretagogue for men is not gonna do much for truly building muscle. Yep. But for women, it actually
54:49Speaker 4it will. It'll damn sure make you not lose any muscle in this times that you normally would go catabolic. So,
54:55Speaker 4yeah, secrete, secrete,
54:57Speaker 4the gut blend
54:59Speaker 4and Retta.
55:01Speaker 1Nailed it. I would just say add in what we've been talking about, your style of life. Protein. For sure. Add in some resistance training and again, creatine.
55:09Speaker 4Ladies, that'll help you gain a little muscle.
55:12Speaker 4By the way, on our school community,
55:15Speaker 4there are lots of
55:18Speaker 4researched and even like doctors suggested and Paul suggested
55:22Speaker 4full like protocols for different conditions like perimenopause.
55:28Speaker 4Now, for the most part, give you There's a few samples. We have all the like, dosage protocols for single peptides
55:35Speaker 4free. We wanna give
55:37Speaker 4the people information, but,
55:40Speaker 4and there are some examples of the conditions protocols, but a lot of them are for the 1st tier membership,
55:46Speaker 1which is $25 a month. It's like nothing, and you get full access to full explanations,
55:52Speaker 1protocols, etcetera.
55:54Speaker 1It's been a lot of And there's more and more and more coming. Into this stuff. So hopefully, that's fine with you guys because it's like it's in a kind of a segue here or side note here is, you know, there's a guy that had written a comment the other day on school because 1 of our guys sent it to me just about, oh, is JD and Will ever on here? Like, you please understand this.
56:12Speaker 1Will and I are so freaking busy. Like, we've been working 7 days a week for like a year and 0.5. Like, yesterday was the 1st Monday off I've ever had in years and,
56:21Speaker 1we can't like, there's so many different outlets. Like, we get put out so much free content that, like, jeez, there's so you know, like, our social media channel school, there's so much free content on there. This podcast, there's so much free content on there, and it's like, if you don't get a response on the normal school, there's 9,000 people on there that are responding. You know, they're not us exactly, but that's why we have a VIP because,
56:44Speaker 4yeah, it's we are strapped. Like, we did, like, 1 the things that Will and I were this morning, like, oh shoot, we gotta knock that out because we missed the day. We gotta, like, we're behind. So please be understandable. I'm sure you do. Yeah. Cool. Thank you. Good stuff. Am I up? You no, I think I am. Alright. Maybe? I'll read. I just recently found your podcast, and I have gone back and listened to a lot of older ones while keeping up with your weekly drops and joined your school community. Mhmm. You 2 are awesome. Thank you.
57:13Speaker 4My question is I recently had a bone density test, 59 year old female, and I have osteopenia
57:18Speaker 4osteopenia.
57:20Speaker 4Is there a peptide that helps with bone rejuvenation?
57:23Speaker 4Must most I have found are FDA approved already and cost thousands. Doctor's advice is to up my calcium.
57:31Speaker 4I think an 8 year old could have told you that too. I have been on 30 units weekly of Retta,
57:38Speaker 475 units weekly of NAD plus, and finished my 1st round of Epitalon. Good for you. Thank you in advance for your type of God's work.
57:48Speaker 4That's awesome. So I think that as far as peptides go,
57:53Speaker 4a secretagogue.
57:53Speaker 4So if your
57:55Speaker 4HGH levels are elevated in a person,
57:59Speaker 4that will absolutely help increase your bone density. It will help- Yeah.
58:04Speaker 4Mean, your- That's better. Help everything, ever just think everything in your body is just gonna, you know, skin's gonna grow back better and firmer. Right? Your bone and do resistance training also. So secretagogues
58:15Speaker 4mix with resistance training. Think about it. You are when your body experiences
58:20Speaker 4resistance, right, and decently heavy, you're causing thousands of small little micro fractures in those bones. And just like your muscles,
58:27Speaker 4they're gonna grow back
58:29Speaker 4stronger, tighter, and denser than they were before. So 1 of the so secretagogue
58:34Speaker 4and
58:35Speaker 4lift weights.
58:36Speaker 4For women. Yes. For people aging, absolutely more
58:40Speaker 4important.
58:41Speaker 4Yeah. Eat enough food. Don't let Retta kill your appetite.
58:45Speaker 4You need some fuel. You need food. You need to recover.
58:49Speaker 1Yeah, I was gonna say optimize your hormones. I would imagine that if you haven't got your blood work done, which I would imagine with what you're going through, you did,
58:56Speaker 1but I would not listen to that doctor. I would go to a doctor that's more, seasoned in hormones because you're gonna get very different answer. And there's a lot of people coming out now that are starting to really do the deep research and really
59:09Speaker 1know how to read hormones and not, you know, some somebody's at a 300, you know, the typical song. So make sure you're hormonally optimized.
59:19Speaker 1Will said secreted Gargoyle, was surprised you didn't say HGH. I think the HGH her HGH, probably HGH would be your best bet. Just go right to the jugular and 1 IU will probably do you better. With your situation, you might even go to 2,
59:31Speaker 1And you can always throw in some BPC and some TB, that'll do you good as well. But that alone, like you said, eat, eat and do
59:39Speaker 1resistant training.
59:40Speaker 4Is a I
59:42Speaker 4know I read about it and I can't tell you the name right now, but it is literally just focused on
59:47Speaker 4specifically
59:48Speaker 4building bone.
59:50Speaker 4So
59:51Speaker 4if you
59:53Speaker 4Google that, I bet you'll find something. Now I believe that my research on it kind of was it
59:59Speaker 4it wasn't quite there. It wasn't really effective enough for me to
1:00:04Speaker 4want to try or to recommend,
1:00:06Speaker 4but new things come out every day. So
1:00:09Speaker 4maybe research
1:00:10Speaker 4that a little bit, and and we will too a little bit more. Do that. Alright, man. Am I taking this home? You take it home. I'm taking this home. Alright.
1:00:18Speaker 1I will try to keep this brief. My daughter is 30 and insulin resistant
1:00:23Speaker 1and has been microdosing
1:00:25Speaker 1tirzepatide
1:00:26Speaker 1with NAD and B12.
1:00:28Speaker 1It took a couple of months, but she started to lose weight, but most importantly, her body composition has changed a lot.
1:00:35Speaker 1Even though she's not losing more,
1:00:37Speaker 1her belly fat has gone down. We've been doing heavy weights and walking for a year and 0.5.
1:00:44Speaker 1Their tirzepatide is the only thing that got the scale and body to move. Here's my question.
1:00:50Speaker 1A couple months after the weight started to slowly come off and her body was changing, she had 3 episodes of feeling terrible.
1:00:58Speaker 1She tested her blood sugar and she was a 70 and 75.
1:01:03Speaker 1We know there that's not low,
1:01:06Speaker 1but to her, it felt horrible.
1:01:08Speaker 1Her dad is type 2. She is not yet. To me, she's been,
1:01:13Speaker 1running high enough that 70 and 75 felt low enough,
1:01:17Speaker 1though it wasn't.
1:01:19Speaker 1Would you agree that this means that her body is becoming more insulin sensitive?
1:01:24Speaker 1I think it's a good thing that she is freaking out. She thinks that the 1.25
1:01:29Speaker 1mg of GLP-one
1:01:31Speaker 1GIP
1:01:32Speaker 1could be making her hypoglycemic
1:01:35Speaker 1thoughts.
1:01:36Speaker 1Also, she's had NAD and B12 added to the tirzepatide.
1:01:41Speaker 1She also
1:01:42Speaker 1or she feels it has made her anxiety a lot worse. Thoughts?
1:01:46Speaker 1I think it's her glucose and insulin levels
1:01:49Speaker 1leveling out. Yep. And her body is freaking out, and it's actually a good thing. We can change the add ons
1:01:57Speaker 1to L carnitine.
1:01:59Speaker 1For your information, she has medical anxiety. Thank you. I appreciate it sincerely.
1:02:04Speaker 1Peptide 11 mom. That's a good 1. Good stuff. I liked it. That was great.
1:02:08Speaker 1Yeah. I think it could improve the improve the insulin sensitivity.
1:02:12Speaker 1When the glucose normalizes,
1:02:14Speaker 1it's
1:02:15Speaker 1going to feel uncomfortable.
1:02:16Speaker 1So I think that she's,
1:02:18Speaker 1this is where she's at.
1:02:20Speaker 1When the body changes,
1:02:21Speaker 1it's changing. You
1:02:23Speaker 1weren't feeling like you just were. So for a lot of people that's going to do. I think for your daughter, I think some protein, electrolytes,
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1:02:45Speaker 1How do you wanna split it? Actually,
1:02:47Speaker 2dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard. So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
1:03:01Speaker 2Yeah. It's chicken shawarma.
1:03:03Speaker 2Wanted that? I can't believe you, like, ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance. Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp, Bank NA. Quality is good. Make sure she's eating enough. If she stops eating because of the tirzepatide, it's going to counteract the tirzepatide
1:03:23Speaker 1because it has absolutely slowed down her metabolism
1:03:26Speaker 1and she stops, plateaus, might even go backwards. So make sure she eats
1:03:32Speaker 1enough. It's very, very important and high protein.
1:03:35Speaker 1Also because of her anxiety, I would imagine she says her age 30, she's good. So Selank,
1:03:42Speaker 1Semax,
1:03:43Speaker 1those should be a given. You could even maybe take out the tirzepatide for a little bit and try the Tesofensine.
1:03:50Speaker 1Might work might work might give anxiety, but it's not, but it doesn't doesn't that much. I think I think, I'm from the old school, if you haven't figured it out by now. I think for your daughter, what will do really well for her, I don't know if you're into church, I don't know if you, whatever your lifestyle is, but if she just starts like serving and going to feed some homeless people or just do some of the things that are really
1:04:13Speaker 1out of self and helping other people, she will stop thinking about how she feels and she will feel amazing,
1:04:20Speaker 1and it will light a fighter in her soul and some of her problems will
1:04:25Speaker 1slowly fall away because we are so in tune to ourselves if we're sitting there and just thinking about ourselves. I do it with a lot of my sponsees, like, dude, get out and help people. And you can think about you if you're thinking about somebody else,
1:04:36Speaker 1it works wonders. It really like lights
1:04:39Speaker 1people's soul on fire. I believe our purpose in life is to help other people try it, watch, see if I'm wrong. Let's try that. Yes.
1:04:51Speaker 4Mean, really, I really do agree. And Jay, when somebody comes, comes to you with their problems and you tell them you're being selfish and start
1:05:01Speaker 4being grateful. That's not at all the answer I needed, but it actually probably is the answer you needed. Anyway, your daughter, it seems so mom, I think you're spot on. I think you're absolutely right that,
1:05:11Speaker 4those changes,
1:05:14Speaker 4are making her feel
1:05:16Speaker 4like her blood sugar is crashing and not as comfortable because she's not loaded up on sugar
1:05:20Speaker 4and,
1:05:21Speaker 4just tell her keep toughing it out. I think you so I think, mom, you're on the right track. Right? I'll note. That is I think I think that that's what's going on.
1:05:32Speaker 4I would I would
1:05:34Speaker 4if it were me and my daughter, I guess, I'd move them to Retta instead of just Epitalon. Yeah. It's not gonna make her go hypoglycemic.
1:05:40Speaker 4What might make her go but not even really even okay, if she's not eating enough food, okay, that makes a blood person's blood sugar shit tank, right? That's where else you're gonna eat
1:05:52Speaker 4blood sugar. That's probably what's going on. So, yeah, I think that she needs to make sure that she's eating consistently,
1:05:58Speaker 4and that's yet another reason to switch that to Retta. K? Because you actually have an appetite. Food sounds good to you, just not a lot of it and not the bad food. It's like, what's better? Right? Forces you to, like, that perfect portion control
1:06:11Speaker 4and you get your nutrients so you don't, a, go into, you know, lower
1:06:16Speaker 4all your blood sugar and you don't lose a bunch of muscle,
1:06:19Speaker 4etcetera.
1:06:21Speaker 4The NAD potentially could be making the anxiety not good. You know, what makes anxiety not good? It's being really hungry too.
1:06:27Speaker 4You know? When we're low on food,
1:06:30Speaker 4that just boosts energy and anxiety. Shut up. Bad energy. Right? It's like yeah. So make sure that she's eating. The NAD is has some stimulant effects. It can
1:06:41Speaker 4make certain people feel, anxious,
1:06:44Speaker 4so be aware of that. But
1:06:47Speaker 4it's it just, it sounds like she's been battling this her whole life and it's genetic.
1:06:51Speaker 4Right? You said, Not yet. Her dad is type 2, she is not yet. Therefore, she is type 3.
1:06:57Speaker 4I read that as that's what has to be happening. Right? How else
1:07:02Speaker 4could she test her blood sugar very fast? Right? You guys So this seems like a plan this seems like a
1:07:10Speaker 4a problem that has been, you know Yeah. Gaining on her her whole life. So keep working at it. It's not gonna get solved immediately,
1:07:16Speaker 4but, there is gonna be some discomfort until her body normalizes,
1:07:20Speaker 4and gets back to it. But you are kicking ass, mom. Good for you. And do everything JD said, and good luck, and you just and she just keeps trying to keep going. Right? Consistency
1:07:30Speaker 4is the key. She didn't gain all the weight, right, in 6 weeks,
1:07:36Speaker 4even 6 months, right? She probably took her years to gain weight and to develop
1:07:40Speaker 4that used to being high insulin. So it's going to take some time to keep working.
1:07:46Speaker 40 Good stuff. Great questions. Very different from the ones that have come through some for a while they were kind of redundant, not knocking it because I know we got new viewers all the time. So it's great, but those are some good ones, man. So again, if a little bit more info info for some of you, help us answer them a little bit more in-depth.
1:08:02Speaker 1Join the school if you haven't. We have $25
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1:09:03Speaker 1than that, we're going to interview
1:09:07Speaker 1Peter tomorrow and it drops on Monday and
1:09:09Speaker 1you're gonna love that. That's gonna cool. If you wanna throw some questions,
1:09:13Speaker 1you know, we'll read through them. If you we you got about a day.
1:09:17Speaker 1If you have some questions,
1:09:19Speaker 1shoot them in any 1 of our DMs. They're all checked, and, we will Yep. See if we're good. We'll ask. The owner of Janoship,
1:09:25Speaker 4which is like a independent
1:09:27Speaker 4lab that started in The Czech Republic, and they test people have been sending different samples of everything, started with steroids years ago,
1:09:35Speaker 4and now it's in now still steroids and peptides, etcetera. So, yeah, please give questions. We'll we'll try to ask him there too. We'll ask 1 live on the thing and we'll say, is from I know not your name. We won't do that to you, but, we will say this is from the audience. Yeah. That'd be cool. The last thing I wanna say that I forgot this, the firefighter from El Paso, right, you've lost you haven't lost weight or you've in fact gained weight, but inches have come off of your waist. I mean, that's literally the goal. I mean, that's what the point, that is the best news possible, right? That is the goal. How do you feel? How do you look? Know, how do you feel and how you look? Muscle weighs way more than fat. And so you absolutely,
1:10:09Speaker 4that's what we call body recomposition,
1:10:12Speaker 4right? I don't care what the scale says, Right? Yeah. It's body weight stay the exact same, right, but a person's body can look fucking way different. Yeah. I have like before after pictures of of of a woman who is like 10
1:10:26Speaker 4and everybody would say, no way, she's 20 pounds lighter.
1:10:29Speaker 4Because she has turned Definitely. Got rid of all the fat, add a whole bunch of muscle, muscle goes into the right places, fat's always in the wrong places that makes you look bad.
1:10:38Speaker 4So, dude, yeah, that's the goal. Good job. We appreciate you guys. We love you,
1:10:44Speaker 1so we will see you next time. Yep. Good night. America.