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1:06Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Dental across the way like always, my good friend, Mr. William T. Haws.
1:19Speaker 2Memorial Day. Kept thinking it was Monday. Driving in, I'm like, oh, shit, it's Tuesday. I know. I was thinking about our meeting that we used to have on Monday. I'm like, oh, man, it's Tuesday. So- So- No meeting, I guess. I guess we kind of had the meeting over the weekend. Yeah. We just got back from Vegas, which is great. We did a quick little turnaround trip. That was my 1st time on J-
1:38Speaker 2Yep, Brad. It was Brad. Bloop. You should jump right on the plane, and will fly that any any chance I get. Yes. That was amazing, actually. It went through the So much. Down, take your shoes off. And just dealing through the crowds and parking
1:51Speaker 0at the airport and then squeezing into the airplane, especially on a Vegas where it's a 40 minute flight. Like, right, you're spending 3 times that time
2:07Speaker 0dude, I'm in like a paper airplane. This is kind of sketchy. I'm really scared of heights. And like in a big airplane, I don't get that. There is no I don't get the fear of heights because I feel like I'm just in an enclosed, like, building. Yeah. And it not not on my own out there looking over an edge. Right? But this 1,
2:25Speaker 0yes, I felt like I was I could see the ground going away. I'm like, oh, shit. I ain't looking at that. Just close the close the window, and we were bumpy the whole way. Did it was just like, like,
2:36Speaker 0way back to It was it was up and down, but that's it's nice. Little shaky. It's yeah. And I don't care. It's okay. You just gotta come to PE. You can either just be sit there and just miserable and stressed out or just come
2:56Speaker 0it falling falling that much. No. No. I'm trying to do it. Right? Just gotta embrace it and just go, oh, well, let's live the best I can in these next 30, 40 minutes. Yeah.
3:07Speaker 2We were up at, Vegas, which was great. We, Will and I got some time to sit down with no distractions and
3:13Speaker 2kinda suit the objective of the trip, which is just plot some stuff and what we want in the future. And it was funny after the meeting we had, I already knew this, but it was very, very shown very
3:26Speaker 2Will is great at what he does and he does not like what I do and I am great at what I do and I do not like what he does. And a lot of times we are both doing our separate things in the business and we don't even know what each other's doing and it just goes well. Yep. Because we are so That's very true. What we love. Because, like, what do you hate? He goes, and tells me, I'm like, that's my favorite. Yeah. I swear. I'm like, this is perfect.
3:46Speaker 0Oh, it is perfect. I think that makes a good partnership. Right? You see, you hear, and see so many times, like, don't do, you know, friend because JD and I have been friends for a long time. Like, don't go into business with your friends. Right.
4:01Speaker 0even shown its face at all. As long as it's mutual respect, man. And it is all about mutual respect. And I think the 1 thing that absolutely helps is that, like, we know each other. Like, there will never be a situation where, like, why is JD in this? Why is he even what is what is the point? We can I can do this? I can just do that job. Right? There's never that. And I was like, either way. Right?
4:22Speaker 2Hands down. Because it was so funny, but obviously, I was like, all the stuff you were saying that you love, and I was like, oh my god. I just I hate that. I don't really hate that.
4:32Speaker 2It's perfect. So it's perfect. So we stayed in our own lanes and they go well. Yeah. Yeah. But a big stuff, man. I mean, are excited. We,
4:48Speaker 2so, for anybody listening, it'll drop on Monday, but we get to talk about basically the guy that created the testing. They started with steroids.
4:59Speaker 2man, it'll be good to kinda just decipher what he's seen, what's changed, what he sees coming down the pike. Yeah. Yeah. Are a lot of the products that he tests, do they test out? I don't know if he'll answer that. Yeah. I don't know. But that was her too. I have a bunch of questions that I'm gonna ask him pre,
5:14Speaker 0to see what his answers are, see if he will answer them. Like, pre because there's a lot of,
5:22Speaker 0understand when looking, just looking at a test report, you know? I mean, so many things like, just for example, like endotoxins.
5:39Speaker 0The endotoxin report should be 4 times higher than the MOTS-forty, by the way. So you can't go, oh, it's MOTS-forty. Oh, they average where it should be between 1 and 2.
6:03Speaker 0basically, like, if you have and I'm gonna ask him about this, we'll confirm this. But bay you're not gonna see
6:13Speaker 0there is a threshold of purity that just has to that just it cannot be beat. Like, you're never gonna ever see, well, a 100% of HGH. Right? Like, 96,
6:23Speaker 2you know, 8 is like about is almost perfect as good as you're ever gonna get. You're chilling shit. You're upset at 96 of HGH. I mean, you I mean, what are like a lot what is the threshold I think for, CBS stuff? Like, isn't it, like, 80%?
6:36Speaker 0Yeah, I think been a while. Don't wanna brutal that, but it's something lower than you think. It's something like 92%.
6:41Speaker 0Okay. That was lower. And, right. But then everybody when talking about peptides is like, oh, I gotta have 99.9%.
6:48Speaker 0Look at that. You realize, like, literally, not nothing that you take is really over 99.9 So
7:01Speaker 0and said, yeah, that's what or is lying. Yeah. No. Everybody's from USA. No. They're not. No. They're not. Alright. Just so you know. No. They're not. Yeah. Yes. It's fun though because,
7:10Speaker 2I mean, the cool thing is so many people are intrigued and they're into it and we love it. Unfortunately, like very few, if any, unless they do really do research on reading those actual
7:21Speaker 2reports are gonna know what the hell they are. Yeah. But they're just being told to ask for them. Mhmm. You know? Yep. Part of the game. It is what it is. And a lot of people, like I said, is they don't know that the stuff that comes from CBS comes from China. Yeah. So you don't know that? I'm bursting your bubble now that this stuff I don't wanna take the China stuff. Then don't go to any pharmacy in America because
7:41Speaker 0most of it comes from China. And especially like but, yes, peptides, like all the raws, raws are created in China. Like, America has EPA standards,
8:05Speaker 0dude, I guarantee he can make his own lab and he can make this much. Yeah. Right? For like personal use, but he ain't distributing that. None of you people are gonna be using that stuff. So it all has to happen in these giant
8:20Speaker 0have very loose laws on their environment like China. Yep. So that's where the raws come from. Made in America means,
8:34Speaker 0They put it, they measure, put bottle, put in bottle. They put a salt puck in there, and that's basically to help it's like a preservative. Think about it. That's why you see something in your peptide vial. If that salt puck wasn't there, you'd go, what the hell? I got you. It would look like somebody poured powder in and then poured it out. Yeah. You'd see residue and go, wait a minute. Nothing's in here. Right? That's the actual peptide. Sorry, folks. But what you see is the salt puck, it helps preserve it and keep it more stable.
9:02Speaker 2puck, freeze dry, crimp lid on, made in America. Yep. That's what made in America is. Pfizer does that. Yes. Like, they buy their raws from China. That's kind of a matter of an opinion on what 1 would want to say. Do you believe that's from America? Sure. If some do, some don't. I don't really care. I've known for a long time where most of the stuff comes from, so I don't really care. But,
9:25Speaker 2so now you know. If you didn't know that, if it says made in America, they are compounded here. The raws coming from China. If they tell you otherwise, they don't know, which is the problem and or they're lying. And, you know, there's there's there's exceptions to every rule. When we say China, that's true. Probably 9090%, like India, there's other outlying countries, so please don't Yeah. Say like, oh, 1 time ever in the history of things, this little deviation
10:06Speaker 0have the manufacture the company that manufactures the raws right now? Okay? So when they're in that raw form, that's when they're most vulnerable.
10:13Speaker 0Okay? The light, heat, contaminants, etcetera. When you want somebody to manufacture raws and then immediately
10:21Speaker 0bottle them, compound them, seal them, good. Right? Instead of raws, now let's take a month sometimes,
10:29Speaker 0ship them over, right? Like ship them over to this side of the country, right, at not probably not temperature controlled during shipping, guaranteed. Like there is some, and then over here finally
10:56Speaker 2if you choose like a telehealth or 503B, whatever, and you're going to go that route, cool. Like, here's
11:02Speaker 2the bottom line. Like, they will be tested to the degree where like, you know that it's gonna be the exact amount, but you're gonna pay for that. They
11:09Speaker 2will come from the same spot. So just letting you know they were gonna come from the same spots.
11:26Speaker 0You saying the name? No, they are. I won't say now. It's like 5 or something like that.
11:36Speaker 2But it's interesting to know that. A lot people are newer to peptides and a lot of people probably know this, a lot of people don't, and now you know. So- But he's, but he is right. Like the important part though,
11:45Speaker 0really the important part is that what are we worried about, what are people worried about getting from China? What they're worried about is,
12:03Speaker 0Heavy metals, right, China's they're known to have produced some products with some residual heavy metals. Residual solvents. K? Residual solvents means any cleaning agent that isn't adequately cleaned off. Yeah. Right?
12:18Speaker 0You spray Windex in the bottle and pour some water, dump it out, and then load the peptide in. Right? That's not you're still gonna use a Windex in there. Right. So endotoxins,
12:33Speaker 0So any you should then, but we can test for this. And this is general shake. We'll we'll talk about this. Good companies will kind of triple verify
12:50Speaker 0And therefore, once you have a test back on something that, well, that's verified 3 different times that says it is perfect in all those, I don't give a shit where it comes from. It comes from, I don't know, anywhere. Yeah. That means none of those bad things that we're worried about from where it came from Right. Are in place. Right.
13:08Speaker 0and just, sorry, the raws are coming from China. There's no way. There's no way to move American jobs to make to
13:16Speaker 0make the raws. That's not happening. So if you believe them- because it's not American, Americans cannot do that. Seriously. Okay, that's all I can say. Well, good stuff. So we're gonna dig into that tomorrow. I'm excited.
13:27Speaker 2Yeah. Good stuff, man. So today's Q and A, we'll get after it. We had some good questions, different, some definitely some different questions. So there's been some different spins on some different questions, not a lot of the same ones. So it's been great. Why don't you start us off, dude? Here
13:43Speaker 0Bye. Hi. I'm a 33 year old female. I have 2 kids. I work full time, and I'm a fitness trainer on the side.
13:56Speaker 05 to 6 days a week on top of teaching them. I eat very high protein meals, 140 plus grams a day, and love to move my body. My current stack is NAD,
14:20Speaker 0I'm getting ready to phase out tirzepatide and pull in Retta. My questions are, 1, how should I phase out tirzepatide and switch to Retta? 2, should I add MOTS-three into my stack? And 3, do you have any recommendations on my current stack? Any advice is appreciated. I love your podcast and recommend
14:36Speaker 0it to any of my fellow gym girls and guys that are interested in learning more about peptides. Thank you. Good stuff. Nice. Awesome.
15:00Speaker 00.5. Right? That's I think that's not even measurable on the syringe. So when we hear here's a good thing to just tell everybody. When we're talking about units,
15:16Speaker 0unless it's in context, unless you are holding a specific syringe. And on that syringe, you're talking about units. So mostly,
15:23Speaker 0we are everybody is talking about a 100 a U-one 100. So an insulin syringe that fits 1 mil total,
15:30Speaker 0right, and has a 100 check marks. Alright? Every single 1 check mark counts as 1 unit. Right? 1 through a 100. So you usually see check mark, check mark 10,
15:41Speaker 020. It'll actually say the words 10, 20, 30. So that 10 is 10 units, not 1 unit. And that 10 units is also 0.1 of a mil. My guess is that she's
15:51Speaker 050? Talking about 50. So the NAD, 50 units. Yeah. Or so that's what I think. It read the other way. So if you are taking 0.5,
16:04Speaker 0Right? Yes. If you're taking 50, that's great. If you're taking 50, so, yeah. So here's the thing. How about this? We'll just clarify this. NAD,
16:14Speaker 0that's very, very, very low. Think that's not really doing, I don't think that's doing anything to you. I would, here's my shot, NAD, honestly, I think a person should be between the regular dose between 25
16:32Speaker 0The way that I have people reconstitute it, the way that I reconstitute it, 1 unit is equal to 1 mg. So 50 mg would be 50 units, would be 0.5 a syringe.
16:41Speaker 0But you need to work your way up to that. You cannot just start at 50 or like we're just talking to her friend. Like, you'll get an overwhelming tingling sensation where you need to sit down and breathe through it and,
16:55Speaker 0if you're doing 50 units, kill it. Good. Go. But maybe if you're only doing 5, hey, let's work your way up. Okay?
17:04Speaker 01 unit. I mean, I guess, it's like, Dan, I think you're doing 10 units, but it should the Glow, I think that you're right. I would be doing 10 units, which works out to be 0.5 of a milligram
17:23Speaker 0Yeah. Now that's great. I would do that. I wouldn't do any more than that. I I would if if we're talking just TB BPC,
17:33Speaker 0I would At least a point. Want you to go, you know, go a little bit more, but if it's more maintenance, the problem is the GHKCU,
17:46Speaker 0So nothing you could do with that, but it's a great maintenance dose, and you'll notice it in your skin, and and your body will feel better.
18:11Speaker 0AKA 1 mg. I don't know if many you were worried about any some water retention that might be high for a woman. Yeah. But,
18:18Speaker 0keep it low and consistent is better than high and potentially getting water retention. If you do that, just lower it down. Now,
18:42Speaker 0Yeah. So 5 units. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. That works. So it's like 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Here's how would you do it? How would we do the switching? Here's the thing. I would say
18:54Speaker 0so if you're doing tirzepatide or doing 5 units 3 times a week, I would start the Reta and do start with
19:02Speaker 05 units maybe in, like, 2.5. Let's So see. If we had to split it by 3, I would just perfectly
19:19Speaker 0enter, I don't know, introduce it. Maybe I need to think about that math and the math on it, but go ahead, JD. That's a low I mean, that's a really low dose of tirzepatide.
19:27Speaker 2I think, I was actually wondering how you're gonna answer that. I think because it's such a low dose, you could just switch them.
19:34Speaker 2I don't think that it's really gonna be that big of a difference. Now, if you were taking like 6 Migs,
19:51Speaker 0I think you'd do pretty good in just doing that. I would agree. That's, that is my problem is there's not much room to- It's just so low. There's still not enough room to wiggle. I would probably just,
20:02Speaker 2swamp her out 1 day. And we'll nail it. I've heard Tesamorelin for women, I think, is amazing. Like he said, the only only thing is you can gain some water weight and are kind of, you know, get that. So that's easy to tell. Just go go low and slow.
20:23Speaker 2Yeah. The more we've dug into that, we will probably both agree on that. Start with the, the SS-31because
20:37Speaker 2Now, if you wanted to do because you are an active gal and if you wanted to have stuff, especially for what type of workouts you're doing with, like, yoga and, like, Pilates and all that stuff, I've been doing this Yogalates thing with my bride, like, 3 times a week. Holy moly. Now it's a high and a hot 1, but, dude, it's freaking that's those girls get after it. Yeah. They do. So I've I've liked
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21:51Speaker 2Yeah. I've enjoyed it. I I focus on my my stomach, so I love it. So, no. So I would say throw in some SLU-PP-three
21:58Speaker 232 for some stamina for you. I think that would do you wonders. I think that would be a perfect fit, actually. So, yeah, SS-thirty 1 1st, then bring in the SLU for Loretta to switch it. I think it's good to go.
22:20Speaker 0really strong. So there is no leaks because MOTS-3s now gonna push a whole bunch of energy in inside of this and that energy needs to be created and needs to be
22:30Speaker 0shuttled to you very efficiently. Yeah. And it can't be loud to leak out the sides. So 1st you want to, you're basically like insulating the house. Right. Then we're turning the heat on so it can- Can we put it? The heat. Because all these things that pop out, any leaks, that's like free radicals and inflammation,
22:47Speaker 2etcetera, and it's all bad. You take the MOTS-1.1 1st and your your mitochondria is not doing well. We have found with some people with that have had this issue where they just get
22:57Speaker 2Yeah. Because they're they're not really it's not doing well. Like, it 1st, then go in for the MOTS-3D, and then when you do the MOTS-3D, it will do well. Yeah. Alright. Let's see here.
23:50Speaker 2This is the, reason I'm on a few of these. CJC, Ipa, and Kisspeptin also because I'm low a bit in estrogen and progesterone.
24:02Speaker 0It's a good 1, man. Think that's really good. I think that it sounds like it's a doctor that has told you this to do this. I'm like, I wanna know who that doctor is because good job. Yeah.
24:12Speaker 0The doctor's using all of the resources that are available to him in medicine, right? So good for him. I don't see any problem with anything you're taking. I don't know you, you, you know, other than what you've just, what I've just read, but everything looks good to answer your question that says absolutely. Tesofensine like spot on, that's a great
24:29Speaker 0thing to use when replacing any of the GOPs. So folks, if y'all wanna, if anybody wants to get off the GLPs to adding in like Tesof
25:59Speaker 2is great. Well, I wolf agree now. I've obviously changed my mind on it, but, I love it. The only thing I would just be a little careful is because you get energy,
26:09Speaker 2is your anxiety ridden, so just be prepared because it does give you energy. And some people that might rev up that anxiety a little bit, but, just go slow. Right? Mhmm. Think you'd be good. Yep. Test test 50 is great. Yes. Yeah. Alright.
26:23Speaker 0Next. Hey, guys. I'm really enjoying all the content you put out in the school community.
26:28Speaker 0There's so much information to learn and absorb. It's amazing. If someone is wanting to start down the mitochondrial journey,
26:34Speaker 0which peptide would you recommend 1st? Then which order should you run the other peptides?
26:43Speaker 0and how 1 peptide will be more efficient if ran before another peptide based on how it works in your body. Thanks again.
27:03Speaker 0peptides and will do amazing things taken together, right, is like, 1st of all, let's get like our lifestyle factors
27:20Speaker 0protein intake, resistance training, and what's my last thing is, yes, so glucose control, like, just sweets, cut out the sweets.
27:33Speaker 0will your body will respond to so fast. Right? Literally. And will do wonders for you. I know that's a tall order, if it I mean, easier said than done, I suppose. But
27:45Speaker 0sleep is huge. Start there. So then then I think we did answer that. If you were to ask me and this guy, I'd say you start with SS-thirty 1.
28:17Speaker 0So then so then we have more newer cells can keep growing, replicating, and grow bigger because the there's not a whole bunch of trash in front of them. Mhmm.
28:35Speaker 0and plus giving more energy to them. There's a whole long list of things that NAD will do.
28:56Speaker 2I don't know. Yeah. I don't know how you're gonna I don't know. But if it works out, reads, think I've taken it once. I don't know. I fast so much, so it kind of does what fasting does with the autophagy and stuff like that. But if it does do that, which I would imagine it does because they've obviously been looking into it, it literally wipes out dirty cells. Yep. Brand new ones take their place. You look younger, you feel younger, it's amazing. So that's what Topaji does. It's
29:24Speaker 2the same. I mean, I wrote down foundation, foundation, foundation, build your foundation
29:29Speaker 2and then build on top of it. So this isn't, we don't know if you're a man or a woman. So hormones
29:38Speaker 2huge. It's part of that foundation. I think it's literally like the bolts of everything. I think that's the most important. Then diet, exercise, resistance training,
29:54Speaker 2and just be conscious of like seed oils best you can. People don't realize that if you just do that,
30:02Speaker 2gosh, man, you'd feel so much better. Just seed oils and sugars. If you just cut those suckers out for a month, you would feel amazing.
30:09Speaker 2And then you build a taunt on top of that, and then we'll already nailed it. It's SS-31like
30:27Speaker 2man, year old man who has lifted his whole life. Hell yeah. Recently, the wife and I have gotten into peptides and are seeing great results.
30:45Speaker 2Recently, you had a legendary Jay Campbell on and it was our favorite episode. However, at the end of the podcast, Jay basically said HGH was worthless. I don't remember him saying that. No. He's a To the to older men such as us,
31:05Speaker 2as every other podcast you 2 seem to say HGH is nothing but good. I have told many people to go to your podcast, keep it up, keep up spreading the pep tag gospel.
31:15Speaker 2Phil Smith, Eugene Oregon. That was rad. I don't remember that. Do you? I don't remember. I don't think that I would remember that if I would have been conscious. Maybe sometimes as we're doing podcasts, as everybody's know, we're
31:26Speaker 2you you're kind of thinking of the next questions, and sometimes you might have missed it. That probably is it because I I don't wanna answer for you. But HGH is like Yeah. You should be taking HGH.
31:35Speaker 2I don't remember Campbell saying that. I know Campbell, and I know that he takes HGH, so I can't imagine him saying that. Yeah. Why are you well, here's But I'm not lying. I just don't remember. Right. Here's what I think I will say about HGH is everybody
31:47Speaker 0it's like this miracle drug. Right? Like, the when baseball players got in trouble for using steroids and PEDs and everybody was like, oh, they're all taking growth HGH. Right? Everybody thought that, man, it's such a performance enhancing drug. Like, it's just,
32:01Speaker 0I will it'll HCG is a long play and a very and it's very subtle. Yeah. So, like, somebody you introduce testosterone
32:19Speaker 0So HGH is not this miracle drug. It is, it does take long. It's a long term thing. I honestly wouldn't expect results for 6 months, right? After doing it daily,
32:32Speaker 0And I do think it's absolutely better for the older you are, the more effective it's going to be because inherently you're gonna have lower,
32:48Speaker 0And so I don't think he said that, but I do think it's not worthless. I think that in a the question might be in an older man,
33:06Speaker 0And I kind of agree with that. But anyway, so your pituitary, the secretagogues that tell your brain pituitary, hey, man, let's go fire and make some more,
33:29Speaker 0could be the problem. That could be a possible answer, but I definitely don't, I mean, especially- remember the new tropics, so maybe you got it mixed up. I do remember that. Do not, but dude, you've re watched it. Like we're not, you totally could be right.
33:45Speaker 2So if we agreed, we were probably not super coherent at that question, we might have been thinking of the next because we're both extremely huge fans of HGH and at your age, you should absolutely be taking it. I mean, dude, recovery,
34:00Speaker 0bigger. I mean, I could go on and on for somebody your age. So Yeah. Definitely take it. Of these things that's funny. Growth is like, you you take it and you go, okay. I don't know. Like, you know it's working because your knuckles start to, like, feel swollen. Right? Yeah. They're like, I is it really doing anything? How are you? So therefore it is subtle, but when you stop taking it a couple of weeks past, you go, oh, that's what it was like. Like,
34:39Speaker 0it's not worthless. And if Jay's taking it, I don't think he would say it's worthless and take it.
34:45Speaker 2And on your stack, it's funny because before I got to the end of your question, I remember I was underlining and I said, great. You must be listening to the podcast because that is something that I would say to take. So,
34:55Speaker 2I don't see TRT on here. I'm almost certain at your age. Take TRT, but hopefully you do. But other than that, that stack's awesome, man. I love that. And that NK-six 77 at your age will give you a little of bulk. Absolutely. Good stack. So, yeah, take HGH. If we said that, we, spoke out a term.
35:17Speaker 0year old, 39 year old looking to start HGH currently taking Reddit, NAD, and Wolverine for 7 weeks now. Which HGH
35:41Speaker 0Okay. So 1st answer, you said, hey, which HGH do we find most effective? So I actually meant to bring, like, an example, but
35:58Speaker 0they're all the same. Those are brand names and usually brand names devise, named after, like, the delivery system. Right? So, like,
36:16Speaker 0you have a pen injecting it, whether you do the own injection, it doesn't matter. IU for IU,
36:23Speaker 0Then the question might be, they've seen what's so what what should I do? A 100 IU kit, a 150 IU kit, 200 IU kit, or a or 240
36:39Speaker 0all they are is like a 6 pack, 12 pack, 18 pack, and a 30 pack. Right? All you're getting is just more
36:48Speaker 0Last order. In, you know, and you're getting the cost more, but a little bit better price
37:10Speaker 2some people get confused by actual HGH, which is we like so somatropin. Yeah. Yeah. Which is actual HGH. You're injecting HGH compared towards the secretagogues.
37:35Speaker 2that's why we generally ask, well, how old is he? Oh, he's over 40. So we'll generally say someone drove an HGH. If it was like a 23 year old, I would say stay away from security. I wouldn't do anything. HGH anyway. Yeah. You won't do anything. Yeah. Stupid. Like but, yeah. So, like, age plays a role in some of this. And just, know, on a side note, and we appreciate every 1 of these questions. 1 thing that I would like, you know, for listeners if you're gonna write in, especially male, but even women, let us know if you are hormonally optimized, if you are taking
38:06Speaker 2testosterone and just a little extra sometimes with those types of things can give us a little bit better of a answer because we know a little bit more about you. Yep. So the answer, let's say,
38:29Speaker 0Yeah. It's gonna help burn fat. It's gonna help burn your belly fat. It's gonna help burn, visceral
38:41Speaker 0is there to just kinda help out and push more growth hormone. They synergistically work better. Right? Taking Tesla
38:49Speaker 0by itself is gonna be effective, but taking Tesla and Ipamorelin is has a synergistic effect.
38:58Speaker 0if you do, but you're also saying, I also wanna start TESS. So if you take here's the thing, HGH,
39:04Speaker 0exogenous HGH, 191 amino acids, you're already taking that, and then you take a secretagogue also,
39:10Speaker 0your brain's pituitary is not gonna be open to making it more natural growth hormone because it goes, Hey, how much do I have? A whole lot already.
39:20Speaker 0You give it a secretagogue, it's gonna go, Sorry, dude, I already have a lot. And it's not the secretagogue
39:25Speaker 0adding Tesamorelin on top of actually exogenous HGH isn't going do much. Although you will get the effects of the fat
39:49Speaker 0can make it too strong for some people. Like, if we take equal Tessa and equal Ipah, especially for women,
40:04Speaker 2like that idea. Yeah. But it's up to you. Yeah. That's great. I had that the other day, somebody asked why do I recommend women to just do the Tesa? That's why. He's answering it. So a little bit of info would be great, but if it's like ten-ten or Yeah. It's a little bit too much for women, need to deal it. There's bit. Great
40:21Speaker 2All right. Firefighter from El Paso, Texas, 37 years old, been following you guys for about 2 months. You're literally my workout music. I love it. Got injured in a fire, had shoulder surgery and went from squatting 5.75s
40:44Speaker 2I got back at it. 6 days a week, protein and veggies only went from 2 43 to 2 21. That's awesome. Then hit a plateau, pretty standard. Got on Reta 2 Migs Monday and Thursday.
40:57Speaker 2Moving to 3 Migs next week. 1st 2 weeks, I gained 2 pounds but lost 2 inches of my waist.
41:10Speaker 2Why did I gain weight but lose inches on Retta? Should I add Tesamorelin for the visceral fat? And if so, what's the dosing look like alongside Retta?
41:35Speaker 2so thank you. You know, like you guys, I love firemen because when everybody's running that way, you're running that way And a huge, huge, huge respect. Do you want me to run it? You want Go me ahead. Go ahead. I'll add. So, yeah. So I
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42:47Speaker 2man, we get I think we're just so caught up in wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, where you'd lost inches, inches, inches. Do you look better? Do you feel better? It's working. Yeah. Right? So I
43:01Speaker 2scale for a while and just stay on course. I promise you, if you're doing things right, you are going to have success. It's a promise unless you deviate.
43:11Speaker 2Here's the thing that jumped out at me on you is your sleep is trash. And, your age, I don't think, I think that, Will and I both are gonna kind of sit on this more and more just because
43:32Speaker 2And if you sleep like shit, which I've told my story because I like to share what's going on with me. I've never battled cortisol.
43:52Speaker 2That is your body keeping that fat because it wants to live. And if your cortisol is high,
43:58Speaker 2you're not going to lose it. You're not going to lose it. You need to get your cortisol down. So little some tricks. I can go over some sleep stuff that has worked radically for me. I mean, I tried everything.
44:23Speaker 2you hear this, you shoot me a DM anywhere and I'll actually go through that. I actually posted something the other day about what is my actual stack and I went through like not just my supplements, but all supplements and I added it in there. So, I'd love to send it to you and, try it. So get your sleep under wraps, brother. Now I'm gonna tell you, Tesamorelin
44:42Speaker 2is amazing. I loved it. It jacked up my sleep and Ret is known to do that. I'm not deterring you from them. I'm just saying that
44:49Speaker 2what I would recommend if you do them is I would do them in the morning and not do them at night because that's
44:55Speaker 2something that you could help you with that a little bit. Because I think really, brother, your main thing is getting that sleep because that's bigger than even like testosterone. Even if you're on testosterone, you won't burn it.
45:19Speaker 2But yeah, that's what I'm going to say to you, brother, is you obviously can throw in some DSIP.
45:29Speaker 2getting like hormones in line, getting sleep in line, obviously getting your diet in line, they
45:36Speaker 2take the top seat before peptides because peptides are just going to work a little bit
45:43Speaker 0hope that helped, but, I've been there, man. So, I fixed it and it's been freaking amazing. Yeah. Alright. Right on you. I 2nd, like, most of that. Yeah. I mean, yes, everything you said, I agree with.
45:55Speaker 0The sleep is huge, huge, huge. The the cortisol comes from, yes, us being stressed out, and our body perceives stress different ways. Right? You don't have sleep or an irregular sleep schedule.
46:05Speaker 0Your body thinks it's in this your body is in this fight or flight state, right, and is producing cortisol. So that sucks, and there's not much you can do about it because that is your livelihood and you would help people, good for you.
46:30Speaker 2Stay outside, get sun. Stay, yep. Like old school stuff that like, I think we all like did so much more
46:38Speaker 2we've just changed. We're inside. Our faces in a phone. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, even me, I'm an active dude, but, I've been working. I just I was outside yesterday and with my kids and my wife out outside and I was,
46:49Speaker 2God, I haven't been in the damn sun forever. Like it felt great. You know, like I'm talking to myself too, Like we get so caught up in this little ball, but man, if we get back to old school,
47:04Speaker 2waves, I'll tell you a quick little story because it's such a rad story. When my mom passed when I was 20,
47:08Speaker 2I went to get my haircut by this little Asian gal. I was obviously distraught, know, like I was shook up, you know, and she could see that I was distraught. And she says, What's going on, sweetie? I'm getting my haircut to go basically bury my mom, right? And she said, Sweetie, you need to go down to the beach and you need to take off your shoes and you need to sit by the water and let the water just slowly come up and hit your feet. And she said, Your body is going to calm down and it's gonna settle and it's gonna calm me down because we're in the womb for 9 months and our body's gonna remember that feeling. And I was like, kind of like kind of woo woo, but I did it. Oh God, I just have done it ever since. Like, it is such an amazing, like, and the point of that story is
47:48Speaker 2sometimes you just gotta get back to the basics of the stuff that like our ancestors, we don't, they didn't have peptides.
48:01Speaker 0Yep. Right? That's your like ice bath and shocking your system. They also chased animals down and like killed them with their bare hands and they ate lots of, well, probably vegetables, right? Because that's a they could eat some plants, they ate lots of fat and protein. Yeah. We didn't get the buffalo tonight, honey. We're eating some weeds. We're eating we're eating so
48:19Speaker 0all that stuff is good, and that's why we were healthier, robust, more robust people back then. Now we diet easier from little diseases
48:26Speaker 0because we didn't have doctors, but, okay. Back to this. Tesamorelin, a 100% visceral fat, get rid of that stuff, dude. I would attack that with Tesamorelin
49:06Speaker 0Usually, it's 10 units, okay, 3 times a week. See how you do it. You might go down from there. I would say just do that
49:15Speaker 0See how you feel, see how you look. If you feel like you need to go up, then you bump up by 0.5 a milligram
49:22Speaker 0It might be too strong. You might be like, damn, dude, I'm not even eating anything. That's too strong. Then then just lower it down to to, 0.5 of a milligram, 3 times a week. Okay?
49:33Speaker 0And yeah, you were a big, strong dude. So I hope you get back there. That sucks having an injury and thank you. But mention 3 65 squatting 5 75 if they're real squats. The 5 75 squat is the more important, more impressive
49:46Speaker 01 by the way. Just because dudes always like that, lay down, push stuff. That's easy. But like squatting that much and actually putting on your back and not telling me you leg press 1000 pounds because no 1 cares,
50:05Speaker 0what do you recommend if they're taking small amounts of hormones but need energy as well as healing body inflammation for chronic pain? Also, do you recommend anything for young, growing athletes?
50:22Speaker 0women, okay, we have had this question and similar questions a lot. I have you know, firsthand experience,
50:28Speaker 0but you're looking for to reduce inflammation and chronic pain. Like, BPC TB blend, I don't care. The Wolverine blend is,
50:38Speaker 0Everybody's using it. That stuff just works, works, works, works. Would maintenance don't I would, I guess I would start off like a loading phase of a milligram a day. Watch what happens, like a milligram a day for 2 weeks.
50:50Speaker 0Then you can maybe back that down to a milligram of each, 3 days a week. Make that part of your regimen. Watch the inflammation and any, like, pain, stiffness go away.
51:15Speaker 2No age, so I don't really know, but I figured we'd both answer that same way. I mean, it comes up quite a bit.
51:22Speaker 2I just will put you in issues how I'll answer it for my sons, which they will be 1 day in high school sports and BPC TV, I will give to them for sure. They will have injuries. I wish I had it in high school,
51:47Speaker 0so freaking safe. And, I would do that for my sons. Other than that, nothing. And then for you, I guess, NAD, like energy energy NAD is awesome.
52:34Speaker 2And like Will said, NAD is great, which you can move into again, the SS-thirty 1 and then the MOTS-3C. And then, you know, like this, the standard, let's just be redundant for a reason, sleep,
52:48Speaker 2protein. I don't think women realize that they need as much protein as they should, but I had anybody, if anybody listens to the other podcasts I have with Eva,
53:00Speaker 2and, her answer to some stuff was eat protein right when you wake up for women. And I was like, I never heard any woman say that. So I thought it was awesome.
53:08Speaker 2So for you 2 ladies, eat some protein. Make sure you get your protein in. Women just don't. And let's say creatine, dude. Creatine does not get talked about. Creatine is freaking amazing, and literally everybody listening to this should be taking it. That's just
53:32Speaker 2All right. New to peptides here and I have not taken any. I'm currently breastfeeding,
53:40Speaker 2I'm wanting to take something to help build muscle and lose fat. Looking for a low dose,
53:59Speaker 2I know what you're going say, go for it. My recommendation is take 0 mg of semaglutide. Semaglutide sucks. Run, abort.
54:41Speaker 0I don't know. I mean, I don't wanna say you have to do a bulk and a cut because you actually don't, but Reta for sure for burning fat. I would I would absolutely get on that and and low dose it. And muscle building for women
54:54Speaker 0and and fat burning, Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin blend. The secretagogue HGH secretagogue for men is not gonna do much for truly building muscle. No. But for women, it actually it will, and it'll damn sure make you not lose any muscle in this times that you normally would go catabolic. So,
55:17Speaker 2Nailed it. I would just say add in what we've been talking about, your style of life. Protein. For sure. Add in some resistance training and again, creatine.
55:44Speaker 0now for the most part, give you there's a few samples. We have all the dosage protocols for single peptides
55:56Speaker 0and there are some examples of the conditions protocols, but a lot of them are for the 1st tier membership. Yeah. Which is $25 a month. It's like nothing, and you get full access to full explanations,
56:10Speaker 2It's been a lot of And there's more and more and more coming. Into this stuff. So hopefully, that's fine with you guys because it's like, it's in a kind of a segue here or side note here is,
56:19Speaker 2you know, there's a guy that had written a comment the other day on school because 1 of our guys sent it to me just about, oh, is JD and Will ever on here? Like, you please understand this. Will and I are so freaking busy. Like, we've been working 7 days a week for, like, a year and 0.5. Like, yesterday was the 1st Monday off I've ever had in years, and,
56:37Speaker 2we can't like, there's so many different outlets. Like, we get put out so much free content that, like, geez, there's, you know, like our social media channel school, there's so much free content on there. This podcast, there's so much free content on there. And it's like, if you don't get a response on the normal school, there's 9,000 people on there that are responding. You know, they're not us exactly, but that's why we have a VIP because,
57:00Speaker 0yeah, it's we are strapped. Like, we did like 1 of the things that Will and I were this morning, oh shoot, we gotta knock that out because we missed the day. We gotta, like, we're behind. So please be understandable. I'm sure you do. Yeah. Cool. Thank you. Good stuff. Am I up? You, no, I think I am. Alright. Maybe? I'll read. I just recently found your podcast and I have gone back and listened to a lot of older ones while keeping up with your weekly drops and joined your school community.
57:29Speaker 0My question is I recently had a bone density test, 59 year old female, and I have osteopenia
57:39Speaker 0Must most I have found are FDA approved already and cost thousands. Doctor's advice is to up my calcium.
57:47Speaker 0I think an 8 year old could have told you that too. I have been on 30 units weekly of Retta,
57:54Speaker 075 units weekly of NAD plus, and finished my 1st round of Epitalon. Good for you. Thank you in advance for your type of God's work.
58:20Speaker 0Mean, your- That's better. Help everything, every just think everything in your body is just gonna, you know, skin's gonna grow back better and firmer. Right? Your bone and do resistance training also. So secretagogues
58:36Speaker 0resistance, right, and decently heavy, you're causing thousands small little micro fractures in those bones. And just like your muscles,
59:05Speaker 2Yeah, I was gonna say optimize your hormones. I would imagine that if you haven't got your blood work done, which I would imagine with what you're going through, you did,
59:12Speaker 2but I would not listen to that doctor. I would go to a doctor that's more, seasoned in hormones because you're gonna get a very different answer. And there's a lot of people coming out now that are starting to really do the deep research and really
59:26Speaker 2read hormones and not, you know, some somebody's out of 300, you know, the typical song. So make sure you're hormonally optimized.
59:35Speaker 2Will said secreted Gaga, I was surprised you didn't say HGH. I think the HGH her HGH, probably HGH would be your best bet. Just go right to the jugular and 1 IU will probably do you better. With your situation, you might even go to 2,
59:47Speaker 2you can always throw in some BPC and some TB. That'll do you good as well. But that alone, like you said, eat, eat and do
59:58Speaker 0a peptide. Know I read about it and I can't tell you the name right now, but it is literally just focused on
1:00:09Speaker 0that, I bet you'll find something. Now I believe that my research on it kind of was it wasn't it wasn't quite there. It wasn't really effective enough for me to
1:00:26Speaker 2that a little bit, and and we will too a little bit more. Do that. Alright, man. Am I taking this home? You take it home. I'm taking this home. Alright.
1:00:44Speaker 2It took a couple of months, but she started to lose weight, but most importantly, her body composition has changed a lot.
1:00:53Speaker 2her belly fat has gone down. We've been doing heavy weights and walking for a year and 0.5.
1:01:06Speaker 2A couple months after the weight started to slowly come off and her body was changing, she had 3 episodes of feeling terrible.
1:02:05Speaker 2leveling out. Yep. And her body is freaking out, and it's actually a good thing. We can change the add ons
1:02:15Speaker 2For your information, she has medical anxiety. Thank you. I appreciate it sincerely.
1:02:37Speaker 2it's changing. You weren't feeling like you just were. So for a lot of people that's going to do.
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1:03:41Speaker 2Quality is good. Make sure she's eating enough. If she stops eating because of the tirzepatide, it's going to counteract the tirzepatide
1:04:01Speaker 2Also because of her anxiety, I would imagine she says her age 30, she's good. So Selank,
1:04:09Speaker 2those should be a given. You could even maybe take out the tirzepatide for a little bit and try the Tesofensine.
1:04:19Speaker 2But it doesn't doesn't do that much. I think I think, I'm from the old school. If you haven't figured it out by now, I think for your daughter, what will do really well for her, I don't know if you're into church. I don't know if you whatever your lifestyle is, but if she just starts, like, serving, going to feed some homeless people or just do some of the things that are really
1:04:38Speaker 2out of self and helping other people, she will stop thinking about how she feels and she will feel amazing. And it will light a fighter in her soul and some of her problems will
1:04:50Speaker 2slowly fall away because we are so in tune to ourself if we're sitting there and just thinking about ourself. I do it with a lot of my sponsies. Like, dude, get out and help people. You ain't gonna think about you if you're thinking about somebody else.
1:05:05Speaker 2people's soul on fire. I believe our purpose in life is to help other people try it. Watch. See if I'm wrong. Let's try that. Right. Yes.
1:05:17Speaker 0really. I really do agree. And Jada, when somebody comes, comes to you with their problems and you tell them
1:05:26Speaker 0start being grateful. That's not at all the answer I needed, but it actually probably is the answer you needed. Anyway, your daughter, it seems, so mom, I think you're spot on. I think you're absolutely right that, those
1:05:42Speaker 0like her blood sugar is crashing and not as comfortable because she's not loaded up on sugar and,
1:05:47Speaker 0just tell her keep toughing it out. I think you so I think, mom, you're on the right track. Right? I'll note. That is I think that I think that that's what's going on.
1:05:59Speaker 0if it were me and my daughter, I guess, I'd move them to Retta instead of just Epatide. Yeah.
1:06:12Speaker 0okay, that makes a blood person's blood sugar. Hell yeah. Tank. Right? That's where else you can- That's what I'd say. That's
1:06:18Speaker 0probably what's going on. So, yeah, I think that she needs to make sure that she's eating consistently,
1:06:26Speaker 0switch that to Retta. Because you actually have an appetite. Food sounds good to you, just not a lot of it and not the bad food. It's like, what's better? Right? Forces you to, like, that perfect portion control
1:06:47Speaker 0potentially could be making the anxiety not good. You know what makes anxiety not good? It's being really hungry too. You know? When we're low on food,
1:06:56Speaker 0that just boosts energy and anxiety. Do that. Bad energy. Right? It's like, yeah. So make sure that she's eating. The NAD is has some stimulant effects. It can
1:07:12Speaker 0it's it just it sounds like she's been battling this her whole life and it's genetic. Right? You said, Not yet. She, her dad is type 2. She is not yet. Therefore, she is type 3.
1:07:28Speaker 0could she test her blood sugar very fast? Right? You guys, so this seems like a plan this seems like a
1:07:35Speaker 0problem that has been, you know Yeah. Gaining on her her whole life. So keep working at it. It's not gonna get solved immediately,
1:07:45Speaker 0and gets back to it. But you are kicking ass, mom. Good for you. And do everything JD said,
1:07:51Speaker 0and good luck, and you just and she just keeps trying to keep going. Right? Consistency
1:08:06Speaker 2that used to being high insulin. So it's going to take some time to keep working. 0 Good stuff. Great questions. Very different from the ones that have come through some for a while they were kind of redundant, not knocking it because I know we got new viewers all the time, so it's great, but those are some good ones, man. So again, if a little bit more info info for some of you, help us answer them a little bit more in-depth.
1:08:31Speaker 2a month that has some extras where you can find some different protocols that, you know, and then the VIP, which is what, $60 a month. We got a lot coming down. I know for some of you haven't seen a lot of stuff, but you do get a big discount. You got all kinds of different,
1:08:48Speaker 2on there. So Was that those actually come with the with the 25, so that's 0 in luck. Then the then we're gonna be dropping all kinds of like, videos that are just we've already done some that we need to film some more, but we did even
1:09:02Speaker 2because we can, and there's a lot of questions on it. So we did a bulking stack, a cutter stack,
1:09:10Speaker 2that's not for you, cool. It's for a lot of people, they were interested, but, there'll be a lot of that stuff.
1:09:18Speaker 2it's a rad community. There is so much camaraderie. There was so much just people lifting each other up and being positive. That was the reason why we did it. So we love seeing that stuff. So, other
1:09:32Speaker 2Peter tomorrow and it drops on Monday and you're gonna love that. That's me, Phil. If you wanna throw some questions,
1:09:44Speaker 2shoot them in any 1 of our DMs. They're all checked, and, we will Yep. See if Yeah. Talk about the plans. The owner of Janoship Yeah. Which is like a independent
1:09:53Speaker 0lab that started in The Czech Republic, and they test people have been sending different samples of everything, started with steroids years ago, and now it's in now still steroids and peptides,
1:10:06Speaker 2please give questions. We'll we'll try to ask him there too. We'll ask 1 live on the thing and we'll say, this is from I know not your name. We won't do that to you, but, we will say this is from the audience. Yeah. That'd be cool. The last thing I wanna say that I forgot this, the firefighter from El Paso, right, you've lost
1:10:19Speaker 0you haven't lost weight or you've in fact gained weight, but inches have come off of your waist. I mean, that's literally the goal. I mean, that's what the point, that is the best news possible. Right? That is the goal. How do you feel? How do look? You know, how do you feel and how you look? Muscle weighs way more than fat, and so you absolutely,
1:10:37Speaker 0right? I don't care what the scale says. Right? Yeah. It's body weight stayed the exact same, right? But a person's body can look fucking way different. Yeah. I have, like, before after pictures of of of a woman who is, like, 10 pounds heavier,
1:10:52Speaker 0and everybody would say, no way. She's 20 pounds lighter. But because she has turned off, got rid of all the fat, add a whole bunch of muscle, muscle goes into the right places, fat's always in the wrong places that makes you look bad.