Peptide Q&A #43 – Mitochondrial Stack Order, Sleep & Cortisol, Bone Density & Body Recomposition Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-43-mitochondrial-stack-order-sleep-cortisol-bone-density-body-recomp/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:01 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 0:04 Speaker 0: The space to go further, to feel better, 0:07 Speaker 0: to do something you never thought possible. 0:09 Speaker 0: And this space starts with ultra fit. 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Kept thinking it was Monday. Driving in, I'm like, oh, shit, it's Tuesday. I know. I was thinking about our meeting that we used to have on Monday. I'm like, oh, man, it's Tuesday. So- So- No meeting, I guess. I guess we kind of had the meeting over the weekend. Yeah. We just got back from Vegas, which is great. We did a quick little turnaround trip. That was my 1st time on J- 1:36 Speaker 0: JSX. 1:37 Speaker 2: JSX? 1:38 Speaker 2: Yep, Brad. It was Brad. Bloop. You should jump right on the plane, and will fly that any any chance I get. Yes. That was amazing, actually. It went through the So much. Down, take your shoes off. And just dealing through the crowds and parking 1:51 Speaker 0: at the airport and then squeezing into the airplane, especially on a Vegas where it's a 40 minute flight. Like, right, you're spending 3 times that time 1:59 Speaker 0: getting ready in line. 2:01 Speaker 0: Yeah. Although when we did take off for the 1st time, 2:05 Speaker 0: it struck me that, like, 2:07 Speaker 0: dude, I'm in like a paper airplane. This is kind of sketchy. I'm really scared of heights. And like in a big airplane, I don't get that. There is no I don't get the fear of heights because I feel like I'm just in an enclosed, like, building. Yeah. And it not not on my own out there looking over an edge. Right? But this 1, 2:25 Speaker 0: yes, I felt like I was I could see the ground going away. I'm like, oh, shit. I ain't looking at that. Just close the close the window, and we were bumpy the whole way. Did it was just like, like, 2:36 Speaker 0: way back to It was it was up and down, but that's it's nice. Little shaky. It's yeah. And I don't care. It's okay. You just gotta come to PE. You can either just be sit there and just miserable and stressed out or just come 2:47 Speaker 0: I just had to go, okay. I will die too. I will die today. Yeah. 2:51 Speaker 0: If I die, I die. Like, 2:55 Speaker 0: there's nothing stopping 2:56 Speaker 0: it falling falling that much. No. No. I'm trying to do it. Right? Just gotta embrace it and just go, oh, well, let's live the best I can in these next 30, 40 minutes. Yeah. 3:07 Speaker 2: We were up at, Vegas, which was great. We, Will and I got some time to sit down with no distractions and 3:13 Speaker 2: kinda suit the objective of the trip, which is just plot some stuff and what we want in the future. And it was funny after the meeting we had, I already knew this, but it was very, very shown very 3:24 Speaker 2: vividly again that 3:26 Speaker 2: Will is great at what he does and he does not like what I do and I am great at what I do and I do not like what he does. And a lot of times we are both doing our separate things in the business and we don't even know what each other's doing and it just goes well. Yep. Because we are so That's very true. What we love. Because, like, what do you hate? He goes, and tells me, I'm like, that's my favorite. Yeah. I swear. I'm like, this is perfect. 3:46 Speaker 0: Oh, it is perfect. I think that makes a good partnership. Right? You see, you hear, and see so many times, like, don't do, you know, friend because JD and I have been friends for a long time. Like, don't go into business with your friends. Right. 3:59 Speaker 0: And, I don't know. I that has not 4:01 Speaker 0: even shown its face at all. As long as it's mutual respect, man. And it is all about mutual respect. And I think the 1 thing that absolutely helps is that, like, we know each other. Like, there will never be a situation where, like, why is JD in this? Why is he even what is what is the point? We can I can do this? I can just do that job. Right? There's never that. And I was like, either way. Right? 4:22 Speaker 2: Hands down. Because it was so funny, but obviously, I was like, all the stuff you were saying that you love, and I was like, oh my god. I just I hate that. I don't really hate that. 4:31 Speaker 0: Yep. 4:32 Speaker 2: It's perfect. So it's perfect. So we stayed in our own lanes and they go well. Yeah. Yeah. But a big stuff, man. I mean, are excited. We, 4:38 Speaker 2: tomorrow, which will be dropping on Monday, we're gonna have Peter 4:42 Speaker 2: Magic from Janoship 4:44 Speaker 2: coming on and, man, I'm excited about that. That's dope. Man, 4:48 Speaker 2: so, for anybody listening, it'll drop on Monday, but we get to talk about basically the guy that created the testing. They started with steroids. 4:56 Speaker 2: Yep. Stuff like that, but now they've obviously moved into peptides and, 4:59 Speaker 2: man, it'll be good to kinda just decipher what he's seen, what's changed, what he sees coming down the pike. Yeah. Yeah. Are a lot of the products that he tests, do they test out? I don't know if he'll answer that. Yeah. I don't know. But that was her too. I have a bunch of questions that I'm gonna ask him pre, 5:14 Speaker 0: to see what his answers are, see if he will answer them. Like, pre because there's a lot of, 5:20 Speaker 0: a lot of things that people don't 5:22 Speaker 0: understand when looking, just looking at a test report, you know? I mean, so many things like, just for example, like endotoxins. 5:30 Speaker 0: Okay. So you can't look at an end of, let's say for example, a MOTS-ten, 5:36 Speaker 0: right, and a MOTS-forty. 5:38 Speaker 0: Okay? 5:39 Speaker 0: The endotoxin report should be 4 times higher than the MOTS-forty, by the way. So you can't go, oh, it's MOTS-forty. Oh, they average where it should be between 1 and 2. 5:49 Speaker 0: And it's MOTS-forty, 5:51 Speaker 0: oh, it's a 10 or something. That's, oh, that's bad. Like, no, 5:55 Speaker 0: that's, it's 4 times as much. Therefore, it's gonna have 4 times this. 6:00 Speaker 0: Also, 6:01 Speaker 0: like, 6:02 Speaker 0: HGH, 6:03 Speaker 0: basically, like, if you have and I'm gonna ask him about this, we'll confirm this. But bay you're not gonna see 6:08 Speaker 0: anything, like, really above, like, a 97, 6:11 Speaker 0: 98. There just is 6:13 Speaker 0: there is a threshold of purity that just has to that just it cannot be beat. Like, you're never gonna ever see, well, a 100% of HGH. Right? Like, 96, 6:21 Speaker 0: high 96, 6:23 Speaker 2: you know, 8 is like about is almost perfect as good as you're ever gonna get. You're chilling shit. You're upset at 96 of HGH. I mean, you I mean, what are like a lot what is the threshold I think for, CBS stuff? Like, isn't it, like, 80%? 6:36 Speaker 0: Yeah, I think been a while. Don't wanna brutal that, but it's something lower than you think. It's something like 92%. 6:41 Speaker 0: Okay. That was lower. And, right. But then everybody when talking about peptides is like, oh, I gotta have 99.9%. 6:48 Speaker 0: Look at that. You realize, like, literally, not nothing that you take is really over 99.9 So 6:54 Speaker 0: why why that threshold with peptides It's because some asshole 6:59 Speaker 0: just broke 7:00 Speaker 0: 99.9 7:01 Speaker 0: and said, yeah, that's what or is lying. Yeah. No. Everybody's from USA. No. They're not. No. They're not. Alright. Just so you know. No. They're not. Yeah. Yes. It's fun though because, 7:10 Speaker 2: I mean, the cool thing is so many people are intrigued and they're into it and we love it. Unfortunately, like very few, if any, unless they do really do research on reading those actual 7:21 Speaker 2: reports are gonna know what the hell they are. Yeah. But they're just being told to ask for them. Mhmm. You know? Yep. Part of the game. It is what it is. And a lot of people, like I said, is they don't know that the stuff that comes from CBS comes from China. Yeah. So you don't know that? I'm bursting your bubble now that this stuff I don't wanna take the China stuff. Then don't go to any pharmacy in America because 7:41 Speaker 0: most of it comes from China. And especially like but, yes, peptides, like all the raws, raws are created in China. Like, America has EPA standards, 7:50 Speaker 0: and it is impossible 7:52 Speaker 0: for anybody in America to mass produce and create the raw chemical, 7:57 Speaker 0: actual 7:58 Speaker 0: powder of these peptides in any 8:01 Speaker 0: type of quantity, right? In any quantity that's to sell. Some 8:05 Speaker 0: dude, I guarantee he can make his own lab and he can make this much. Yeah. Right? For like personal use, but he ain't distributing that. None of you people are gonna be using that stuff. So it all has to happen in these giant 8:17 Speaker 0: manufacturing 8:18 Speaker 0: countries that 8:20 Speaker 0: have very loose laws on their environment like China. Yep. So that's where the raws come from. Made in America means, 8:26 Speaker 0: and here's an here's here's 1 argument actually. So it means that they are compounded, 8:31 Speaker 0: but basically means 8:32 Speaker 0: raws come here. 8:34 Speaker 0: They put it, they measure, put bottle, put in bottle. They put a salt puck in there, and that's basically to help it's like a preservative. Think about it. That's why you see something in your peptide vial. If that salt puck wasn't there, you'd go, what the hell? I got you. It would look like somebody poured powder in and then poured it out. Yeah. You'd see residue and go, wait a minute. Nothing's in here. Right? That's the actual peptide. Sorry, folks. But what you see is the salt puck, it helps preserve it and keep it more stable. 9:00 Speaker 0: So they measure 9:01 Speaker 0: salt 9:02 Speaker 2: puck, freeze dry, crimp lid on, made in America. Yep. That's what made in America is. Pfizer does that. Yes. Like, they buy their raws from China. That's kind of a matter of an opinion on what 1 would want to say. Do you believe that's from America? Sure. If some do, some don't. I don't really care. I've known for a long time where most of the stuff comes from, so I don't really care. But, 9:25 Speaker 2: so now you know. If you didn't know that, if it says made in America, they are compounded here. The raws coming from China. If they tell you otherwise, they don't know, which is the problem and or they're lying. And, you know, there's there's there's exceptions to every rule. When we say China, that's true. Probably 9090%, like India, there's other outlying countries, so please don't Yeah. Say like, oh, 1 time ever in the history of things, this little deviation 9:46 Speaker 0: occurred. Yeah. We understand. But, 9:49 Speaker 0: that's 9:50 Speaker 0: that's the general rule. That's basically how things go. 9:53 Speaker 0: Here was my thought is, so the salt puck, right, is for, 10:00 Speaker 0: preservatives and to keep it more stable. Okay? Therefore, 10:03 Speaker 0: wouldn't a person wouldn't you rather 10:06 Speaker 0: have the manufacture the company that manufactures the raws right now? Okay? So when they're in that raw form, that's when they're most vulnerable. 10:13 Speaker 0: Okay? The light, heat, contaminants, etcetera. When you want somebody to manufacture raws and then immediately 10:21 Speaker 0: bottle them, compound them, seal them, good. Right? Instead of raws, now let's take a month sometimes, 10:29 Speaker 0: ship them over, right? Like ship them over to this side of the country, right, at not probably not temperature controlled during shipping, guaranteed. Like there is some, and then over here finally 10:40 Speaker 0: now compound them, right? Yeah. Instead of leaving all of that time 10:45 Speaker 0: for 10:46 Speaker 0: degradation, 10:47 Speaker 0: etcetera. 10:47 Speaker 2: Right. 10:49 Speaker 0: It seems to me I'd rather just have them manufactured, modeled. 10:53 Speaker 2: Think the important stuff is even 10:56 Speaker 2: if you choose like a telehealth or 503B, whatever, and you're going to go that route, cool. Like, here's 11:02 Speaker 2: the bottom line. Like, they will be tested to the degree where like, you know that it's gonna be the exact amount, but you're gonna pay for that. They 11:09 Speaker 2: will come from the same spot. So just letting you know they were gonna come from the same spots. 11:14 Speaker 0: You're just gonna pay a lot more. And there are basically some, a couple like US, 11:18 Speaker 0: some, a couple of US FDA approved absolute labs 11:24 Speaker 0: in China. 11:26 Speaker 0: You saying the name? No, they are. I won't say now. It's like 5 or something like that. 11:30 Speaker 0: And 11:32 Speaker 0: so, yeah, and that's as good as- 11:36 Speaker 2: But it's interesting to know that. A lot people are newer to peptides and a lot of people probably know this, a lot of people don't, and now you know. So- But he's, but he is right. Like the important part though, 11:45 Speaker 0: really the important part is that what are we worried about, what are people worried about getting from China? What they're worried about is, 11:52 Speaker 0: excess endotoxins. 11:54 Speaker 0: Endotoxins are toxins that have died, and it's the residual dried, 11:58 Speaker 0: like, shell of the bacteria, right, though it still can be toxic. 12:03 Speaker 0: Heavy metals, right, China's they're known to have produced some products with some residual heavy metals. Residual solvents. K? Residual solvents means any cleaning agent that isn't adequately cleaned off. Yeah. Right? 12:18 Speaker 0: You spray Windex in the bottle and pour some water, dump it out, and then load the peptide in. Right? That's not you're still gonna use a Windex in there. Right. So endotoxins, 12:27 Speaker 0: heavy metals, residual solvents, that's about what 12:29 Speaker 0: that is the worry, 12:31 Speaker 0: anything from China. Okay? 12:33 Speaker 0: So any you should then, but we can test for this. And this is general shake. We'll we'll talk about this. Good companies will kind of triple verify 12:44 Speaker 0: and test for all of those things, including 12:47 Speaker 0: quality purity amount. 12:50 Speaker 0: And therefore, once you have a test back on something that, well, that's verified 3 different times that says it is perfect in all those, I don't give a shit where it comes from. It comes from, I don't know, anywhere. Yeah. That means none of those bad things that we're worried about from where it came from Right. Are in place. Right. 13:05 Speaker 0: And, yeah, the only other argument would be economy 13:08 Speaker 0: and just, sorry, the raws are coming from China. There's no way. There's no way to move American jobs to make to 13:16 Speaker 0: make the raws. That's not happening. So if you believe them- because it's not American, Americans cannot do that. Seriously. Okay, that's all I can say. Well, good stuff. So we're gonna dig into that tomorrow. I'm excited. 13:27 Speaker 2: Yeah. Good stuff, man. So today's Q and A, we'll get after it. We had some good questions, different, some definitely some different questions. So there's been some different spins on some different questions, not a lot of the same ones. So it's been great. Why don't you start us off, dude? Here 13:42 Speaker 0: we go. 13:43 Speaker 0: Bye. Hi. I'm a 33 year old female. I have 2 kids. I work full time, and I'm a fitness trainer on the side. 13:49 Speaker 0: Am I doing the right 1? It'll work. Okay. Sorry. 13:53 Speaker 0: I strength train, take Pilates, or do yoga 13:56 Speaker 0: 5 to 6 days a week on top of teaching them. I eat very high protein meals, 140 plus grams a day, and love to move my body. My current stack is NAD, 14:06 Speaker 0: 5 units every other day, glow 1 unit every other day, Tirzepatide, 14:11 Speaker 0: Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 0.5 units. 14:14 Speaker 0: And Tesamorelin, 14:15 Speaker 0: the 2.5 units 14:17 Speaker 0: every other day. K. Every other day, period. 14:20 Speaker 0: I'm getting ready to phase out tirzepatide and pull in Retta. My questions are, 1, how should I phase out tirzepatide and switch to Retta? 2, should I add MOTS-three into my stack? And 3, do you have any recommendations on my current stack? Any advice is appreciated. I love your podcast and recommend 14:36 Speaker 0: it to any of my fellow gym girls and guys that are interested in learning more about peptides. Thank you. Good stuff. Nice. Awesome. 14:45 Speaker 0: Okay. Want me to go or you wanna go? I'll go. 14:48 Speaker 0: So 14:50 Speaker 0: my 1st question is that 14:53 Speaker 0: we're saying 5 units. 14:55 Speaker 0: I don't it strikes me 14:58 Speaker 0: 0.5 units. 15:00 Speaker 0: 0.5. Right? That's I think that's not even measurable on the syringe. So when we hear here's a good thing to just tell everybody. When we're talking about units, 15:09 Speaker 0: units is not like an international measurement. 15:12 Speaker 0: Right? A unit has absolutely no it doesn't means nothing 15:16 Speaker 0: unless it's in context, unless you are holding a specific syringe. And on that syringe, you're talking about units. So mostly, 15:23 Speaker 0: we are everybody is talking about a 100 a U-one 100. So an insulin syringe that fits 1 mil total, 15:30 Speaker 0: right, and has a 100 check marks. Alright? Every single 1 check mark counts as 1 unit. Right? 1 through a 100. So you usually see check mark, check mark 10, 15:41 Speaker 0: 20. It'll actually say the words 10, 20, 30. So that 10 is 10 units, not 1 unit. And that 10 units is also 0.1 of a mil. My guess is that she's 15:51 Speaker 0: 50? Talking about 50. So the NAD, 50 units. Yeah. Or so that's what I think. It read the other way. So if you are taking 0.5, 16:00 Speaker 2: which is like nothing, 16:01 Speaker 2: you're taking way too little for it to do anything. Yeah. 16:04 Speaker 0: Right? Yes. If you're taking 50, that's great. If you're taking 50, so, yeah. So here's the thing. How about this? We'll just clarify this. NAD, 16:11 Speaker 0: if you're taking 5 units, which would be 5 mg, 16:14 Speaker 0: that's very, very, very low. Think that's not really doing, I don't think that's doing anything to you. I would, here's my shot, NAD, honestly, I think a person should be between the regular dose between 25 16:26 Speaker 0: to 50 16:27 Speaker 0: mg 16:28 Speaker 0: per dose. Okay? 25 to 50 mg. 16:32 Speaker 0: The way that I have people reconstitute it, the way that I reconstitute it, 1 unit is equal to 1 mg. So 50 mg would be 50 units, would be 0.5 a syringe. 16:41 Speaker 0: But you need to work your way up to that. You cannot just start at 50 or like we're just talking to her friend. Like, you'll get an overwhelming tingling sensation where you need to sit down and breathe through it and, 16:52 Speaker 0: not fall over. So 16:55 Speaker 0: if you're doing 50 units, kill it. Good. Go. But maybe if you're only doing 5, hey, let's work your way up. Okay? 17:01 Speaker 0: The Glow, so every other day, Glow, 17:04 Speaker 0: 1 unit. I mean, I guess, it's like, Dan, I think you're doing 10 units, but it should the Glow, I think that you're right. I would be doing 10 units, which works out to be 0.5 of a milligram 17:16 Speaker 0: BPC, 0.5 a mill milligram TB, and 2.5 17:20 Speaker 0: mg of 17:21 Speaker 0: GHKCu. 17:23 Speaker 0: Yeah. Now that's great. I would do that. I wouldn't do any more than that. I I would if if we're talking just TB BPC, 17:30 Speaker 0: 0.5 a milligram of each, that's about the lowest effective dose. 17:33 Speaker 0: I would At least a point. Want you to go, you know, go a little bit more, but if it's more maintenance, the problem is the GHKCU, 17:39 Speaker 0: you don't wanna go too high on that stuff. So 2.5 mg, 17:42 Speaker 0: I think, is about safely really all you wanna do in per dose. 17:46 Speaker 0: So nothing you could do with that, but it's a great maintenance dose, and you'll notice it in your skin, and and your body will feel better. 17:53 Speaker 0: Yep. 17:54 Speaker 0: Tesamorelin, 17:56 Speaker 0: 2.5 units. I don't know. I would do Tesamorelin for a woman, 18:00 Speaker 0: 500 micrograms or 0.5 of a milligram. 18:04 Speaker 0: Maybe 18:05 Speaker 0: even start at 2 50 micrograms. It's 0.25 of a milligram. 18:08 Speaker 0: Max out at 1000 micrograms, 18:11 Speaker 0: AKA 1 mg. I don't know if many you were worried about any some water retention that might be high for a woman. Yeah. But, 18:18 Speaker 0: keep it low and consistent is better than high and potentially getting water retention. If you do that, just lower it down. Now, 18:26 Speaker 0: so those are some suggestions. 18:29 Speaker 0: My guess, what does she say she's doing on the Tirzepatide? 18:33 Speaker 2: If she's doing that sounds about right. 18:35 Speaker 2: She's taking 18:37 Speaker 2: 0.5, I think, 3 times a week, I think, every other day. 18:42 Speaker 0: Yeah. So 5 units. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. That works. So it's like 5 units, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Here's how would you do it? How would we do the switching? Here's the thing. I would say 18:52 Speaker 0: you equally 18:54 Speaker 0: so if you're doing tirzepatide or doing 5 units 3 times a week, I would start the Reta and do start with 19:02 Speaker 0: 5 units maybe in, like, 2.5. Let's So see. If we had to split it by 3, I would just perfectly 19:08 Speaker 0: replace 19:09 Speaker 0: milligram for milligram until it's gone over a, 19:13 Speaker 0: I don't know, 3 week time period. 19:17 Speaker 0: I would just subtly 19:19 Speaker 0: enter, I don't know, introduce it. Maybe I need to think about that math and the math on it, but go ahead, JD. That's a low I mean, that's a really low dose of tirzepatide. 19:27 Speaker 2: I think, I was actually wondering how you're gonna answer that. I think because it's such a low dose, you could just switch them. 19:34 Speaker 2: I don't think that it's really gonna be that big of a difference. Now, if you were taking like 6 Migs, 19:39 Speaker 2: that's a very different situation. You're taking a milligram and 0.5, 19:42 Speaker 2: which is really low interest appetite. Mean, shoot, people are taking 15 19:46 Speaker 2: Migs of that stuff. So I think if you just switched it Retta at the same milligram, 19:51 Speaker 0: I think you'd do pretty good in just doing that. I would agree. That's, that is my problem is there's not much room to- It's just so low. There's still not enough room to wiggle. I would probably just, 20:01 Speaker 0: yep, 20:02 Speaker 2: swamp her out 1 day. And we'll nail it. I've heard Tesamorelin for women, I think, is amazing. Like he said, the only only thing is you can gain some water weight and are kind of, you know, get that. So that's easy to tell. Just go go low and slow. 20:16 Speaker 2: What I would do for the so for so MOTS-1C. 20:20 Speaker 2: I love MOTS-3.1. 20:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. The more we've dug into that, we will probably both agree on that. Start with the, the SS-31because 20:28 Speaker 2: it's gonna repair the mitochondria 20:31 Speaker 2: 1st and then go into the MOTS-C. 20:33 Speaker 2: So I would recommend starting with the SS-31then 20:36 Speaker 2: bring in the MOTS-C. 20:37 Speaker 2: Now, if you wanted to do because you are an active gal and if you wanted to have stuff, especially for what type of workouts you're doing with, like, yoga and, like, Pilates and all that stuff, I've been doing this Yogalates thing with my bride, like, 3 times a week. Holy moly. Now it's a high and a hot 1, but, dude, it's freaking that's those girls get after it. Yeah. They do. So I've I've liked 20:58 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 21:01 Speaker 0: The space to go further, 21:02 Speaker 0: to feel better, to do something you never thought possible, and this space starts with UltraFit. 21:09 Speaker 0: Unlike traditional running shoes, UltraFit gives toes more room to move naturally, so every step is strong, 21:15 Speaker 0: balanced, 21:16 Speaker 0: and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. Shop now at ultrarunning.com. 21:23 Speaker 0: That's altrarunning.com. 21:28 Speaker 1: The perfect lunch combo. 21:31 Speaker 1: That 1st bite of your favorite sub followed by ice cold Pepsi. Add a couple of friends, and now that's next level. Suddenly, the laughs get louder, the stories keep flowing, and the food tastes better because Pepsi brings out more flavor, more fun, and more of the moment. 21:47 Speaker 1: Food deserves Pepsi. Grab a Pepsi 0 Sugar today. 21:51 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've enjoyed it. I I focus on my my stomach, so I love it. So, no. So I would say throw in some SLU-PP-three 21:58 Speaker 2: 32 for some stamina for you. I think that would do you wonders. I think that would be a perfect fit, actually. So, yeah, SS-thirty 1 1st, then bring in the SLU for Loretta to switch it. I think it's good to go. 22:10 Speaker 0: I like that idea also. Because SS-thirty 1 part of what it's doing is 22:15 Speaker 0: just is like making the outer mitochondrial 22:19 Speaker 0: shell 22:20 Speaker 0: really strong. So there is no leaks because MOTS-3s now gonna push a whole bunch of energy in inside of this and that energy needs to be created and needs to be 22:30 Speaker 0: shuttled to you very efficiently. Yeah. And it can't be loud to leak out the sides. So 1st you want to, you're basically like insulating the house. Right. Then we're turning the heat on so it can- Can we put it? The heat. Because all these things that pop out, any leaks, that's like free radicals and inflammation, 22:47 Speaker 2: etcetera, and it's all bad. You take the MOTS-1.1 1st and your your mitochondria is not doing well. We have found with some people with that have had this issue where they just get 22:57 Speaker 2: Yeah. Because they're they're not really it's not doing well. Like, it 1st, then go in for the MOTS-3D, and then when you do the MOTS-3D, it will do well. Yeah. Alright. Let's see here. 23:07 Speaker 2: I'm 44 year old and currently taking 23:10 Speaker 2: Selank for anxiety disorder. 23:13 Speaker 2: Clo to maintain good skin, MOTS C, 23:17 Speaker 2: SS-31. 23:18 Speaker 2: Doctor says cellular nutrition could use work. 23:21 Speaker 2: TA-1BPC-157 23:23 Speaker 2: mostly localized 23:25 Speaker 2: around the injury. DSIP, 23:27 Speaker 2: Retta, 23:28 Speaker 2: maintenance dose, whatever that is, and Kisspeptin. 23:32 Speaker 2: Next week, starting CJC, Ipa, Blend, and KPV. 23:36 Speaker 2: I'll be stopping Retta next week. Can I take Tesofensine 23:40 Speaker 2: while on these other things? 23:42 Speaker 2: Also, I was diagnosed with osteopenia 23:46 Speaker 2: and 23:48 Speaker 2: sarcopenia back in February. 23:50 Speaker 2: This is the, reason I'm on a few of these. CJC, Ipa, and Kisspeptin also because I'm low a bit in estrogen and progesterone. 24:00 Speaker 2: Would there be a better stack? 24:02 Speaker 0: It's a good 1, man. Think that's really good. I think that it sounds like it's a doctor that has told you this to do this. I'm like, I wanna know who that doctor is because good job. Yeah. 24:12 Speaker 0: The doctor's using all of the resources that are available to him in medicine, right? So good for him. I don't see any problem with anything you're taking. I don't know you, you, you know, other than what you've just, what I've just read, but everything looks good to answer your question that says absolutely. Tesofensine like spot on, that's a great 24:29 Speaker 0: thing to use when replacing any of the GOPs. So folks, if y'all wanna, if anybody wants to get off the GLPs to adding in like Tesof 25:50 Speaker 2: HGH 25:51 Speaker 2: or 4 year old gal. I, you know, HGH is amazing. Just 1 IU 25:55 Speaker 2: is all that you would need for that. Tesofensine 25:59 Speaker 2: is great. Well, I wolf agree now. I've obviously changed my mind on it, but, I love it. The only thing I would just be a little careful is because you get energy, 26:09 Speaker 2: is your anxiety ridden, so just be prepared because it does give you energy. And some people that might rev up that anxiety a little bit, but, just go slow. Right? Mhmm. Think you'd be good. Yep. Test test 50 is great. Yes. Yeah. Alright. 26:23 Speaker 0: Next. Hey, guys. I'm really enjoying all the content you put out in the school community. 26:27 Speaker 0: Right on. 26:28 Speaker 0: There's so much information to learn and absorb. It's amazing. If someone is wanting to start down the mitochondrial journey, 26:34 Speaker 0: which peptide would you recommend 1st? Then which order should you run the other peptides? 26:39 Speaker 0: I've been reading a lot 26:41 Speaker 0: of the tiered system 26:43 Speaker 0: and how 1 peptide will be more efficient if ran before another peptide based on how it works in your body. Thanks again. 26:51 Speaker 2: Well, 26:52 Speaker 0: we did kind of answer that. Think, so 1st of all, mitochondrial 26:56 Speaker 0: journey. 26:58 Speaker 0: Some things that will almost be more help to your mitochondria besides 27:03 Speaker 0: peptides and will do amazing things taken together, right, is like, 1st of all, let's get like our lifestyle factors 27:10 Speaker 0: dialed in. So if I don't so sleep consistency, 27:15 Speaker 0: hydration, 27:16 Speaker 0: sunlight, 27:18 Speaker 0: exercise, 27:18 Speaker 0: movement, 27:20 Speaker 0: protein intake, resistance training, and what's my last thing is, yes, so glucose control, like, just sweets, cut out the sweets. 27:28 Speaker 0: All of those things are kind of the basic fundamentals 27:31 Speaker 0: fundamentals that 27:33 Speaker 0: will your body will respond to so fast. Right? Literally. And will do wonders for you. I know that's a tall order, if it I mean, easier said than done, I suppose. But 27:44 Speaker 0: sleep 27:45 Speaker 0: sleep is huge. Start there. So then then I think we did answer that. If you were to ask me and this guy, I'd say you start with SS-thirty 1. 27:53 Speaker 0: K? 27:54 Speaker 0: There are a few different peptides. So SS-31s 27:57 Speaker 0: is gonna help 27:59 Speaker 0: help ensure the, like, the outer coating of your mitochondria. 28:03 Speaker 0: K? MOTS-3s is gonna help give some energy to the mitochondria. 28:08 Speaker 0: FOX-four 28:10 Speaker 0: helps 28:11 Speaker 0: clear out dead cells, not necessarily mitochondria, 28:15 Speaker 0: but cells, cellular level. 28:17 Speaker 0: So then so then we have more newer cells can keep growing, replicating, and grow bigger because the there's not a whole bunch of trash in front of them. Mhmm. 28:27 Speaker 0: NAD will 28:28 Speaker 0: help 28:30 Speaker 0: newer help cells replicate and rotate strong and big and healthy, 28:35 Speaker 0: and plus giving more energy to them. There's a whole long list of things that NAD will do. 28:40 Speaker 0: And, 28:42 Speaker 0: what are we missing? So I don't know. Would do SS-thirty 1 1st, 28:45 Speaker 0: and then I would do MOTS-1.0 Yeah. Next. 28:48 Speaker 0: I'm not I don't know. I told you what FOX-04does. 28:52 Speaker 0: I don't 28:53 Speaker 0: it's tough to quantify how much that actually works. 28:56 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah. I don't know how you're gonna I don't know. But if it works out, reads, think I've taken it once. I don't know. I fast so much, so it kind of does what fasting does with the autophagy and stuff like that. But if it does do that, which I would imagine it does because they've obviously been looking into it, it literally wipes out dirty cells. Yep. Brand new ones take their place. You look younger, you feel younger, it's amazing. So that's what Topaji does. It's 29:20 Speaker 2: funny because was, you were just going through your answer and mine's basically 29:24 Speaker 2: the same. I mean, I wrote down foundation, foundation, foundation, build your foundation 29:29 Speaker 2: and then build on top of it. So this isn't, we don't know if you're a man or a woman. So hormones 29:35 Speaker 2: being optimized for a man or a woman 29:37 Speaker 2: are 29:38 Speaker 2: huge. It's part of that foundation. I think it's literally like the bolts of everything. I think that's the most important. Then diet, exercise, resistance training, 29:47 Speaker 2: cutting out the sugars, 29:49 Speaker 2: you know, like sugar should be used as a treat, 29:53 Speaker 2: you know, 29:54 Speaker 2: and just be conscious of like seed oils best you can. People don't realize that if you just do that, 30:02 Speaker 2: gosh, man, you'd feel so much better. Just seed oils and sugars. If you just cut those suckers out for a month, you would feel amazing. 30:09 Speaker 2: And then you build a taunt on top of that, and then we'll already nailed it. It's SS-31like 30:13 Speaker 2: you said, you could run NAD now. 30:15 Speaker 2: I would run the SS-31and the NAD and then add in the MOTS-3. 30:19 Speaker 2: So 30:22 Speaker 0: Cool. 30:23 Speaker 0: Right. 30:24 Speaker 2: Thank you, Rob. All right. Hi, guys. I'm 61, 30:27 Speaker 2: man, year old man who has lifted his whole life. Hell yeah. Recently, the wife and I have gotten into peptides and are seeing great results. 30:36 Speaker 2: I'm taking AOD, 30:38 Speaker 2: Wolverine, 30:39 Speaker 2: DSIP, Somatropin, 30:40 Speaker 2: and MK-677 30:42 Speaker 2: right now. Great. Oh, I broke great. 30:45 Speaker 2: Recently, you had a legendary Jay Campbell on and it was our favorite episode. However, at the end of the podcast, Jay basically said HGH was worthless. I don't remember him saying that. No. He's a To the to older men such as us, 30:59 Speaker 2: and you 2 didn't disagree with him, was this showing difference to him 31:05 Speaker 2: as every other podcast you 2 seem to say HGH is nothing but good. I have told many people to go to your podcast, keep it up, keep up spreading the pep tag gospel. 31:15 Speaker 2: Phil Smith, Eugene Oregon. That was rad. I don't remember that. Do you? I don't remember. I don't think that I would remember that if I would have been conscious. Maybe sometimes as we're doing podcasts, as everybody's know, we're 31:26 Speaker 2: you you're kind of thinking of the next questions, and sometimes you might have missed it. That probably is it because I I don't wanna answer for you. But HGH is like Yeah. You should be taking HGH. 31:35 Speaker 2: I don't remember Campbell saying that. I know Campbell, and I know that he takes HGH, so I can't imagine him saying that. Yeah. Why are you well, here's But I'm not lying. I just don't remember. Right. Here's what I think I will say about HGH is everybody 31:46 Speaker 0: does think 31:47 Speaker 0: it's like this miracle drug. Right? Like, the when baseball players got in trouble for using steroids and PEDs and everybody was like, oh, they're all taking growth HGH. Right? Everybody thought that, man, it's such a performance enhancing drug. Like, it's just, 32:01 Speaker 0: I will it'll HCG is a long play and a very and it's very subtle. Yeah. So, like, somebody you introduce testosterone 32:09 Speaker 0: versus HGH. Testosterone is like, 32:12 Speaker 0: you know, 32:13 Speaker 0: you're gonna see so much more results in such shorter time. 32:19 Speaker 0: So HGH is not this miracle drug. It is, it does take long. It's a long term thing. I honestly wouldn't expect results for 6 months, right? After doing it daily, 32:29 Speaker 0: you're do it in a low dose. 32:32 Speaker 0: And I do think it's absolutely better for the older you are, the more effective it's going to be because inherently you're gonna have lower, 32:40 Speaker 0: HGH levels naturally, and we need those we need high growth levels to repair. Okay? 32:48 Speaker 0: And so I don't think he said that, but I do think it's not worthless. I think that in a the question might be in an older man, 32:57 Speaker 0: the secretagogues, 32:59 Speaker 0: k, you know what he did say was worthless? His nootropics. 33:02 Speaker 0: He said for him, he's like, I don't feel any nootropics. 33:06 Speaker 0: And I kind of agree with that. But anyway, so your pituitary, the secretagogues that tell your brain pituitary, hey, man, let's go fire and make some more, 33:15 Speaker 0: natural growth. 33:17 Speaker 0: If 33:18 Speaker 0: your pituitary function is not 33:21 Speaker 0: any good to start with, 33:24 Speaker 0: really- 33:24 Speaker 0: Not too much. It can't be enhanced that much more. So that 33:29 Speaker 0: could be the problem. That could be a possible answer, but I definitely don't, I mean, especially- remember the new tropics, so maybe you got it mixed up. I do remember that. Do not, but dude, you've re watched it. Like we're not, you totally could be right. 33:42 Speaker 0: Do some talking, talking, but- 33:45 Speaker 2: So if we agreed, we were probably not super coherent at that question, we might have been thinking of the next because we're both extremely huge fans of HGH and at your age, you should absolutely be taking it. I mean, dude, recovery, 33:58 Speaker 2: sleep, skin quality, 34:00 Speaker 0: bigger. I mean, I could go on and on for somebody your age. So Yeah. Definitely take it. Of these things that's funny. Growth is like, you you take it and you go, okay. I don't know. Like, you know it's working because your knuckles start to, like, feel swollen. Right? Yeah. They're like, I is it really doing anything? How are you? So therefore it is subtle, but when you stop taking it a couple of weeks past, you go, oh, that's what it was like. Like, 34:22 Speaker 0: am I gaining fat? I haven't done anything more. Why are my muscles 34:25 Speaker 0: not just always 34:27 Speaker 0: full all the time? And why am I losing any muscle? 34:31 Speaker 0: Because that's what normally everybody happens 34:33 Speaker 0: when we're not in pants. But, so 34:35 Speaker 0: I totally agree that it is kind of a subtle play, but 34:39 Speaker 0: it's not worthless. And if Jay's taking it, I don't think he would say it's worthless and take it. 34:45 Speaker 2: And on your stack, it's funny because before I got to the end of your question, I remember I was underlining and I said, great. You must be listening to the podcast because that is something that I would say to take. So, 34:55 Speaker 2: I don't see TRT on here. I'm almost certain at your age. Take TRT, but hopefully you do. But other than that, that stack's awesome, man. I love that. And that NK-six 77 at your age will give you a little of bulk. Absolutely. Good stack. So, yeah, take HGH. If we said that, we, spoke out a term. 35:11 Speaker 2: Yeah. We agree with HGH. 35:13 Speaker 2: Good job. Same question. Speaking of 35:16 Speaker 0: 39 35:17 Speaker 0: year old, 39 year old looking to start HGH currently taking Reddit, NAD, and Wolverine for 7 weeks now. Which HGH 35:26 Speaker 0: do you find most effective? Also waiting to start Tessa or MOTS-3C. 35:32 Speaker 0: Thoughts on that as well. Wanting to really lean out. 58188. 35:36 Speaker 0: Thanks for the insight and inspiration. Number 1 Idaho potato farmer. 35:41 Speaker 0: Okay. So 1st answer, you said, hey, which HGH do we find most effective? So I actually meant to bring, like, an example, but 35:49 Speaker 0: here are some clarifications. 35:51 Speaker 0: You will see 35:52 Speaker 0: Somatropin, 35:54 Speaker 0: you'll see Cerebrostem. 35:56 Speaker 0: Gyntropin. Gyntropin, 35:58 Speaker 0: they're all the same. Those are brand names and usually brand names devise, named after, like, the delivery system. Right? So, like, 36:06 Speaker 0: there's no difference. They're all recombinant, 36:10 Speaker 0: right? HGH, 36:11 Speaker 0: 191 36:12 Speaker 0: amino acids. All right? 36:14 Speaker 0: There's no difference. Whether 36:16 Speaker 0: you have a pen injecting it, whether you do the own injection, it doesn't matter. IU for IU, 36:21 Speaker 0: same thing. Okay? 36:23 Speaker 0: Then the question might be, they've seen what's so what what should I do? A 100 IU kit, a 150 IU kit, 200 IU kit, or a or 240 36:32 Speaker 0: IU kit. Right? There's 36:34 Speaker 0: no difference also. Those are all the same. 36:38 Speaker 0: And 36:39 Speaker 0: all they are is like a 6 pack, 12 pack, 18 pack, and a 30 pack. Right? All you're getting is just more 36:47 Speaker 0: more more substance. 36:48 Speaker 0: Last order. In, you know, and you're getting the cost more, but a little bit better price 36:53 Speaker 0: because you're buying more in bulk. So that's the only difference. 36:58 Speaker 0: So there you go. 37:00 Speaker 2: And 37:01 Speaker 2: He might be talking about, like, when people say grow 37:05 Speaker 2: HGH 37:05 Speaker 2: peptides, 37:07 Speaker 2: they're usually talking about secretagogues. So 37:10 Speaker 2: some people get confused by actual HGH, which is we like so somatropin. Yeah. Yeah. Which is actual HGH. You're injecting HGH compared towards the secretagogues. 37:20 Speaker 0: Yeah. 37:21 Speaker 2: In different ways with what they do, like CJC, Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin, 37:24 Speaker 2: all those, they're going to help your body to make its own You're 37:28 Speaker 0: not injecting 37:29 Speaker 2: HGH. 37:30 Speaker 2: It's going help your body to make more. So for older people, 37:35 Speaker 2: that's why we generally ask, well, how old is he? Oh, he's over 40. So we'll generally say someone drove an HGH. If it was like a 23 year old, I would say stay away from security. I wouldn't do anything. HGH anyway. Yeah. You won't do anything. Yeah. Stupid. Like but, yeah. So, like, age plays a role in some of this. And just, know, on a side note, and we appreciate every 1 of these questions. 1 thing that I would like, you know, for listeners if you're gonna write in, especially male, but even women, let us know if you are hormonally optimized, if you are taking 38:06 Speaker 2: testosterone and just a little extra sometimes with those types of things can give us a little bit better of a answer because we know a little bit more about you. Yep. So the answer, let's say, 38:17 Speaker 0: which gross HGH secretagog 38:19 Speaker 0: do you think is the best? I would go with the Tesamorelin slash Ipamorelin blend. 38:24 Speaker 0: K? The final answer. Tesamorelin is awesome. I just think that it is. 38:29 Speaker 0: Yeah. It's gonna help burn fat. It's gonna help burn your belly fat. It's gonna help burn, visceral 38:34 Speaker 0: fat, which is the fat on your organs, and that's the bad stuff. Yeah. And 38:39 Speaker 0: will and be very effective, and then Ipamorelin 38:41 Speaker 0: is there to just kinda help out and push more growth hormone. They synergistically work better. Right? Taking Tesla 38:49 Speaker 0: by itself is gonna be effective, but taking Tesla and Ipamorelin is has a synergistic effect. 38:55 Speaker 0: So that would be my choice. Yeah. Also, 38:58 Speaker 0: if you do, but you're also saying, I also wanna start TESS. So if you take here's the thing, HGH, 39:04 Speaker 0: exogenous HGH, 191 amino acids, you're already taking that, and then you take a secretagogue also, 39:10 Speaker 0: your brain's pituitary is not gonna be open to making it more natural growth hormone because it goes, Hey, how much do I have? A whole lot already. 39:20 Speaker 0: You give it a secretagogue, it's gonna go, Sorry, dude, I already have a lot. And it's not the secretagogue 39:25 Speaker 0: adding Tesamorelin on top of actually exogenous HGH isn't going do much. Although you will get the effects of the fat 39:33 Speaker 0: burning visceral fat of Tesamorelin. Okay. And 39:37 Speaker 0: then it's up to you to choose Tessa Ipamorelin at 5 mg, 5 mg, 39:42 Speaker 0: 10 mg, 39:44 Speaker 0: 3 mg. Which is a good 1. Which is a good 1. Like, a lot of people, the the Ipah 39:49 Speaker 0: can make it too strong for some people. Like, if we take equal Tessa and equal Ipah, especially for women, 39:55 Speaker 0: they worry about, that can make them, retain water a lot And 40:00 Speaker 0: so having a little Ipah, 40:02 Speaker 0: but mostly Tessa, 40:04 Speaker 2: like that idea. Yeah. But it's up to you. Yeah. That's great. I had that the other day, somebody asked why do I recommend women to just do the Tesa? That's why. He's answering it. So a little bit of info would be great, but if it's like ten-ten or Yeah. It's a little bit too much for women, need to deal it. There's bit. Great 40:19 Speaker 2: way to explain that though. 40:21 Speaker 2: All right. Firefighter from El Paso, Texas, 37 years old, been following you guys for about 2 months. You're literally my workout music. I love it. Got injured in a fire, had shoulder surgery and went from squatting 5.75s 40:36 Speaker 2: and benching 3 65 40:38 Speaker 2: to starting over. Gained a lot of weight in the process. January 40:43 Speaker 2: 2026, 40:44 Speaker 2: I got back at it. 6 days a week, protein and veggies only went from 2 43 to 2 21. That's awesome. Then hit a plateau, pretty standard. Got on Reta 2 Migs Monday and Thursday. 40:57 Speaker 2: Moving to 3 Migs next week. 1st 2 weeks, I gained 2 pounds but lost 2 inches of my waist. 41:04 Speaker 2: At week 3, I dropped 3 pounds. 41:06 Speaker 2: Full body scan showed 4.93 41:08 Speaker 2: pounds of visceral fat. 41:10 Speaker 2: Why did I gain weight but lose inches on Retta? Should I add Tesamorelin for the visceral fat? And if so, what's the dosing look like alongside Retta? 41:21 Speaker 2: Also, as a firefighter, 41:23 Speaker 2: my sleep is trash. 41:25 Speaker 2: Does Tesamorelin 41:26 Speaker 2: help or is there something better? 41:29 Speaker 2: And what's the budget look like running both? 41:32 Speaker 2: Good question, man. I think that, 37, 41:35 Speaker 2: so thank you. You know, like you guys, I love firemen because when everybody's running that way, you're running that way And a huge, huge, huge respect. Do you want me to run it? You want Go me ahead. Go ahead. I'll add. So, yeah. So I 41:48 Speaker 2: dealt with this a lot when I was doing some training with guys. 41:53 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 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Grab a Pepsi 0 Sugar today. 42:46 Speaker 2: See where, 42:47 Speaker 2: man, we get I think we're just so caught up in wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, where you'd lost inches, inches, inches. Do you look better? Do you feel better? It's working. Yeah. Right? So I 42:57 Speaker 2: would just 42:59 Speaker 2: stop looking at the 43:01 Speaker 2: scale for a while and just stay on course. I promise you, if you're doing things right, you are going to have success. It's a promise unless you deviate. 43:11 Speaker 2: Here's the thing that jumped out at me on you is your sleep is trash. And, your age, I don't think, I think that, Will and I both are gonna kind of sit on this more and more just because 43:21 Speaker 2: it is huge and we haven't talked about it enough. Sleep is the absolute 43:26 Speaker 2: it is literally the most important thing. You heal, 43:29 Speaker 2: your body heals in that sleep. 43:32 Speaker 2: And if you sleep like shit, which I've told my story because I like to share what's going on with me. I've never battled cortisol. 43:38 Speaker 2: I've read about it for years. I just never had ever really 43:41 Speaker 2: met it met it eye to eye 43:44 Speaker 2: recently and it knocked me on my ass, dude. I could not lose 43:48 Speaker 2: this belly fat that I got almost overnight. It was weird. It drove me crazy. 43:52 Speaker 2: That is your body keeping that fat because it wants to live. And if your cortisol is high, 43:58 Speaker 2: you're not going to lose it. You're not going to lose it. You need to get your cortisol down. So little some tricks. I can go over some sleep stuff that has worked radically for me. I mean, I tried everything. 44:10 Speaker 2: You know, magnesium 44:11 Speaker 2: glycinate, 44:12 Speaker 2: ashwagandha, 44:13 Speaker 2: like just stuff like that. Oh my God, it's 44:16 Speaker 2: slow releasing melatonin. 44:18 Speaker 2: Sleep has been so amazing. I haven't slept like this in years. So if 44:23 Speaker 2: you hear this, you shoot me a DM anywhere and I'll actually go through that. I actually posted something the other day about what is my actual stack and I went through like not just my supplements, but all supplements and I added it in there. So, I'd love to send it to you and, try it. So get your sleep under wraps, brother. Now I'm gonna tell you, Tesamorelin 44:42 Speaker 2: is amazing. I loved it. It jacked up my sleep and Ret is known to do that. I'm not deterring you from them. I'm just saying that 44:49 Speaker 2: what I would recommend if you do them is I would do them in the morning and not do them at night because that's 44:55 Speaker 2: something that you could help you with that a little bit. Because I think really, brother, your main thing is getting that sleep because that's bigger than even like testosterone. Even if you're on testosterone, you won't burn it. 45:07 Speaker 2: Cortisol takes the top seat even over testosterone. 45:10 Speaker 2: So you don't say if you're on TRT, I'm assuming you are, if you're not, 45:14 Speaker 2: Google's Bloomberg, let's see where you're at. Let's fix that. 45:19 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's what I'm going to say to you, brother, is you obviously can throw in some DSIP. 45:23 Speaker 2: And, you know, we've said it numerous times where we like to talk about peptides, 45:28 Speaker 2: but 45:29 Speaker 2: getting like hormones in line, getting sleep in line, obviously getting your diet in line, they 45:36 Speaker 2: take the top seat before peptides because peptides are just going to work a little bit 45:40 Speaker 2: unless you get that stuff in mind. So 45:43 Speaker 0: hope that helped, but, I've been there, man. So, I fixed it and it's been freaking amazing. Yeah. Alright. Right on you. I 2nd, like, most of that. Yeah. I mean, yes, everything you said, I agree with. 45:55 Speaker 0: The sleep is huge, huge, huge. The the cortisol comes from, yes, us being stressed out, and our body perceives stress different ways. Right? You don't have sleep or an irregular sleep schedule. 46:05 Speaker 0: Your body thinks it's in this your body is in this fight or flight state, right, and is producing cortisol. So that sucks, and there's not much you can do about it because that is your livelihood and you would help people, good for you. 46:17 Speaker 0: But 46:18 Speaker 0: you can't just try to keep yourself, your body, like limit limit alcohol. 46:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. 46:24 Speaker 0: Maximize 46:25 Speaker 0: sunlight, 46:26 Speaker 0: maximize exercise, 46:27 Speaker 0: all of those things will at least- 46:30 Speaker 2: Stay outside, get sun. Stay, yep. Like old school stuff that like, I think we all like did so much more 46:36 Speaker 2: a long time ago that 46:38 Speaker 2: we've just changed. We're inside. Our faces in a phone. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, even me, I'm an active dude, but, I've been working. I just I was outside yesterday and with my kids and my wife out outside and I was, 46:49 Speaker 2: God, I haven't been in the damn sun forever. Like it felt great. You know, like I'm talking to myself too, Like we get so caught up in this little ball, but man, if we get back to old school, 46:59 Speaker 2: walking on the grass, sitting on a beach, 47:02 Speaker 2: like letting the 47:04 Speaker 2: waves, I'll tell you a quick little story because it's such a rad story. When my mom passed when I was 20, 47:08 Speaker 2: I went to get my haircut by this little Asian gal. I was obviously distraught, know, like I was shook up, you know, and she could see that I was distraught. And she says, What's going on, sweetie? I'm getting my haircut to go basically bury my mom, right? And she said, Sweetie, you need to go down to the beach and you need to take off your shoes and you need to sit by the water and let the water just slowly come up and hit your feet. And she said, Your body is going to calm down and it's gonna settle and it's gonna calm me down because we're in the womb for 9 months and our body's gonna remember that feeling. And I was like, kind of like kind of woo woo, but I did it. Oh God, I just have done it ever since. Like, it is such an amazing, like, and the point of that story is 47:48 Speaker 2: sometimes you just gotta get back to the basics of the stuff that like our ancestors, we don't, they didn't have peptides. 47:54 Speaker 2: They took walks on the without their shoes on. So 47:58 Speaker 0: hope that helps. They took showers in the freezing cold rivers. 48:01 Speaker 0: Yep. Right? That's your like ice bath and shocking your system. They also chased animals down and like killed them with their bare hands and they ate lots of, well, probably vegetables, right? Because that's a they could eat some plants, they ate lots of fat and protein. Yeah. We didn't get the buffalo tonight, honey. We're eating some weeds. We're eating we're eating so 48:19 Speaker 0: all that stuff is good, and that's why we were healthier, robust, more robust people back then. Now we diet easier from little diseases 48:26 Speaker 0: because we didn't have doctors, but, okay. Back to this. Tesamorelin, a 100% visceral fat, get rid of that stuff, dude. I would attack that with Tesamorelin 48:34 Speaker 0: and Retta. 48:36 Speaker 0: Alright? 48:37 Speaker 0: You'd asked about dosages, mice. For a grown male, 48:40 Speaker 0: which you are, 48:42 Speaker 0: I would say an equal Tessa Ipah, 48:45 Speaker 0: you know, choose the blend that where you get equal, okay? Like 5 mg, 5 mg. 48:50 Speaker 0: Would probably start at 0.5 of a milligram 48:53 Speaker 0: of each 48:55 Speaker 0: daily 48:56 Speaker 0: and see if you can progress to 1 mg 48:59 Speaker 0: each daily. Okay? Tessa Ipah. 49:02 Speaker 0: For Reta, I start with 1 mg 3 times a week. 49:06 Speaker 0: Usually, it's 10 units, okay, 3 times a week. See how you do it. You might go down from there. I would say just do that 49:14 Speaker 0: for 2 weeks. 49:15 Speaker 0: See how you feel, see how you look. If you feel like you need to go up, then you bump up by 0.5 a milligram 49:20 Speaker 0: each 1 of those injections. 49:22 Speaker 0: It might be too strong. You might be like, damn, dude, I'm not even eating anything. That's too strong. Then then just lower it down to to, 0.5 of a milligram, 3 times a week. Okay? 49:33 Speaker 0: And yeah, you were a big, strong dude. So I hope you get back there. That sucks having an injury and thank you. But mention 3 65 squatting 5 75 if they're real squats. The 5 75 squat is the more important, more impressive 49:46 Speaker 0: 1 by the way. Just because dudes always like that, lay down, push stuff. That's easy. But like squatting that much and actually putting on your back and not telling me you leg press 1000 pounds because no 1 cares, 49:59 Speaker 0: is more important. 50:00 Speaker 0: Okay. 50:01 Speaker 0: Nice. 2 50:02 Speaker 0: parts. 50:03 Speaker 0: Paraminopausal 50:04 Speaker 0: women, 50:05 Speaker 0: what do you recommend if they're taking small amounts of hormones but need energy as well as healing body inflammation for chronic pain? Also, do you recommend anything for young, growing athletes? 50:17 Speaker 0: My 50:19 Speaker 0: suggestion on this, for menopausal 50:22 Speaker 0: women, okay, we have had this question and similar questions a lot. I have you know, firsthand experience, 50:28 Speaker 0: but you're looking for to reduce inflammation and chronic pain. Like, BPC TB blend, I don't care. The Wolverine blend is, 50:36 Speaker 0: like, so proven and used. 50:38 Speaker 0: Everybody's using it. That stuff just works, works, works, works. Would maintenance don't I would, I guess I would start off like a loading phase of a milligram a day. Watch what happens, like a milligram a day for 2 weeks. 50:50 Speaker 0: Then you can maybe back that down to a milligram of each, 3 days a week. Make that part of your regimen. Watch the inflammation and any, like, pain, stiffness go away. 51:00 Speaker 0: Sermorelin 51:01 Speaker 0: is also a good secretagogue 51:03 Speaker 0: for women, 51:05 Speaker 0: with perimenopause. 51:06 Speaker 0: So if you feel like that because that's gonna help us so many things. Right? 51:11 Speaker 0: I would recommend nothing for young growing athletes for peptides. 51:15 Speaker 2: No age, so I don't really know, but I figured we'd both answer that same way. I mean, it comes up quite a bit. 51:22 Speaker 2: I just will put you in issues how I'll answer it for my sons, which they will be 1 day in high school sports and BPC TV, I will give to them for sure. They will have injuries. I wish I had it in high school, 51:34 Speaker 2: but other than that, nothing. 51:36 Speaker 2: Their bodies are young and they will heal. 51:38 Speaker 2: Will heal. They're supposed to have energy injuries, 51:40 Speaker 2: and that's part of the game when it comes to sports and whatnot. 51:43 Speaker 2: But the TB and the BPC are so freaking safe, 51:47 Speaker 0: so freaking safe. And, I would do that for my sons. Other than that, nothing. And then for you, I guess, NAD, like energy energy NAD is awesome. 51:56 Speaker 0: And just 51:58 Speaker 0: v v 12, some like v 12 injections. 52:02 Speaker 0: That is good, good energy. So that's all I got. 52:06 Speaker 0: I know. I would say, he 52:08 Speaker 2: said Wolverine. I would say the CLO because I wanna add in some KPV. 52:12 Speaker 2: And then the TA-one is 52:14 Speaker 2: great for bringing inflammation 52:16 Speaker 2: down, 52:17 Speaker 2: and it's just great. It is a amazing peptide, and it'll keep you from getting sick, 52:22 Speaker 2: and it's just awesome. 52:25 Speaker 2: So I would run those. 52:27 Speaker 2: You can add a little extra Wolverine on top if you need to. 52:30 Speaker 2: You kind of go slow and just see, but I think the CLO would go well for you. 52:34 Speaker 2: And like Will said, NAD is great, which you can move into again, the SS-thirty 1 and then the MOTS-3C. And then, you know, like this, the standard, let's just be redundant for a reason, sleep, 52:45 Speaker 2: resistance training, protein, 52:48 Speaker 2: protein. I don't think women realize that they need as much protein as they should, but I had anybody, if anybody listens to the other podcasts I have with Eva, 52:58 Speaker 2: she's very seasoned for women 53:00 Speaker 2: and, her answer to some stuff was eat protein right when you wake up for women. And I was like, I never heard any woman say that. So I thought it was awesome. 53:08 Speaker 2: So for you 2 ladies, eat some protein. Make sure you get your protein in. Women just don't. And let's say creatine, dude. Creatine does not get talked about. Creatine is freaking amazing, and literally everybody listening to this should be taking it. That's just 53:22 Speaker 0: universe. Men and women. Doesn't matter. Creatine's 53:25 Speaker 2: amazing. 53:26 Speaker 2: So yeah, that should work right there, man. Yep. 53:30 Speaker 0: All right. You're up. 53:32 Speaker 2: All right. New to peptides here and I have not taken any. I'm currently breastfeeding, 53:38 Speaker 2: so after I wean my baby, 53:40 Speaker 2: I'm wanting to take something to help build muscle and lose fat. Looking for a low dose, 53:46 Speaker 2: I'm generally lean and muscular. 53:48 Speaker 2: What would you recommend? 53:50 Speaker 2: I am also curious about your dosing recommendations 53:53 Speaker 2: for semaglutide 53:55 Speaker 2: for longevity and 53:56 Speaker 2: inflammation. Love the podcast. 53:59 Speaker 2: I know what you're going say, go for it. My recommendation is take 0 mg of semaglutide. Semaglutide sucks. Run, abort. 54:07 Speaker 0: It sucks. You know, yes. And I would take Retta instead. So- And just 54:14 Speaker 0: honestly, for like a super low dose help with inflammation, 54:17 Speaker 0: longevity, 54:18 Speaker 0: neuroprotection, 54:19 Speaker 0: right? The 0.5 of a milligram, 3 times a week with Retta. 54:24 Speaker 0: Now what do I take for muscle 54:27 Speaker 0: buildinglose 54:28 Speaker 0: fat? So those are gonna be definitely 2 different things. 54:33 Speaker 0: There is a lot, I think Retta is the 1st depends on which 54:38 Speaker 0: way. What do you And 54:41 Speaker 0: I don't know. I mean, I don't wanna say you have to do a bulk and a cut because you actually don't, but Reta for sure for burning fat. I would I would absolutely get on that and and low dose it. And muscle building for women 54:54 Speaker 0: and and fat burning, Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin blend. The secretagogue HGH secretagogue for men is not gonna do much for truly building muscle. No. But for women, it actually it will, and it'll damn sure make you not lose any muscle in this times that you normally would go catabolic. So, 55:11 Speaker 0: yeah, Secrete the Secrete 55:13 Speaker 0: the Gog blend 55:15 Speaker 0: and Retta. 55:17 Speaker 2: Nailed it. I would just say add in what we've been talking about, your style of life. Protein. For sure. Add in some resistance training and again, creatine. 55:25 Speaker 2: Ladies, 55:26 Speaker 0: that'll help you. Yep. Gain a little muscle. 55:28 Speaker 0: By the way, on our school community, there 55:31 Speaker 0: are lots of 55:34 Speaker 0: researched and even like doctors suggested and Paul suggested 55:38 Speaker 0: full like protocols 55:39 Speaker 0: for different conditions like perimenopause. 55:42 Speaker 0: So, if 55:44 Speaker 0: now for the most part, give you there's a few samples. We have all the dosage protocols for single peptides 55:51 Speaker 0: free. We want to give the people information, 55:56 Speaker 0: and there are some examples of the conditions protocols, but a lot of them are for the 1st tier membership. Yeah. Which is $25 a month. It's like nothing, and you get full access to full explanations, 56:08 Speaker 2: protocols, etcetera. 56:10 Speaker 2: It's been a lot of And there's more and more and more coming. Into this stuff. So hopefully, that's fine with you guys because it's like, it's in a kind of a segue here or side note here is, 56:19 Speaker 2: you know, there's a guy that had written a comment the other day on school because 1 of our guys sent it to me just about, oh, is JD and Will ever on here? Like, you please understand this. Will and I are so freaking busy. Like, we've been working 7 days a week for, like, a year and 0.5. Like, yesterday was the 1st Monday off I've ever had in years, and, 56:37 Speaker 2: we can't like, there's so many different outlets. Like, we get put out so much free content that, like, geez, there's, you know, like our social media channel school, there's so much free content on there. This podcast, there's so much free content on there. And it's like, if you don't get a response on the normal school, there's 9,000 people on there that are responding. You know, they're not us exactly, but that's why we have a VIP because, 57:00 Speaker 0: yeah, it's we are strapped. Like, we did like 1 of the things that Will and I were this morning, oh shoot, we gotta knock that out because we missed the day. We gotta, like, we're behind. So please be understandable. I'm sure you do. Yeah. Cool. Thank you. Good stuff. Am I up? You, no, I think I am. Alright. Maybe? I'll read. I just recently found your podcast and I have gone back and listened to a lot of older ones while keeping up with your weekly drops and joined your school community. 57:27 Speaker 0: You 2 are awesome. Thank you. 57:29 Speaker 0: My question is I recently had a bone density test, 59 year old female, and I have osteopenia 57:34 Speaker 0: osteopenia. 57:36 Speaker 0: Is there a peptide that helps with bone rejuvenation? 57:39 Speaker 0: Must most I have found are FDA approved already and cost thousands. Doctor's advice is to up my calcium. 57:47 Speaker 0: I think an 8 year old could have told you that too. I have been on 30 units weekly of Retta, 57:54 Speaker 0: 75 units weekly of NAD plus, and finished my 1st round of Epitalon. Good for you. Thank you in advance for your type of God's work. 58:04 Speaker 0: That's awesome. So I think that as far as peptides go, 58:08 Speaker 0: a secretagogue. 58:09 Speaker 0: So if your 58:11 Speaker 0: HGH levels are elevated in a person, 58:15 Speaker 0: that will absolutely help increase your bone density. It will help- Yeah. 58:20 Speaker 0: Mean, your- That's better. Help everything, every just think everything in your body is just gonna, you know, skin's gonna grow back better and firmer. Right? Your bone and do resistance training also. So secretagogues 58:31 Speaker 0: mixed with resistance training. Think about it. You are when your body experiences 58:36 Speaker 0: resistance, right, and decently heavy, you're causing thousands small little micro fractures in those bones. And just like your muscles, 58:43 Speaker 0: they're gonna grow back 58:45 Speaker 0: stronger, tighter, and denser than they were before. So 1 of the so secretagogue 58:50 Speaker 0: and 58:51 Speaker 0: lift weights. For women. Yes. For people aging, absolutely more 58:56 Speaker 2: important. 58:57 Speaker 0: Yeah. Eat enough food. Don't let Retta kill your appetite. 59:01 Speaker 0: You need some fuel. You need food. You need to recover. 59:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say optimize your hormones. I would imagine that if you haven't got your blood work done, which I would imagine with what you're going through, you did, 59:12 Speaker 2: but I would not listen to that doctor. I would go to a doctor that's more, seasoned in hormones because you're gonna get a very different answer. And there's a lot of people coming out now that are starting to really do the deep research and really 59:25 Speaker 2: know how to 59:26 Speaker 2: read hormones and not, you know, some somebody's out of 300, you know, the typical song. So make sure you're hormonally optimized. 59:35 Speaker 2: Will said secreted Gaga, I was surprised you didn't say HGH. I think the HGH her HGH, probably HGH would be your best bet. Just go right to the jugular and 1 IU will probably do you better. With your situation, you might even go to 2, 59:46 Speaker 2: and 59:47 Speaker 2: you can always throw in some BPC and some TB. That'll do you good as well. But that alone, like you said, eat, eat and do 59:54 Speaker 2: a resistant training. 59:56 Speaker 0: Is 59:58 Speaker 0: a peptide. Know I read about it and I can't tell you the name right now, but it is literally just focused on 1:00:03 Speaker 0: on specifically 1:00:04 Speaker 0: building bone. 1:00:07 Speaker 0: So or if you Google 1:00:09 Speaker 0: that, I bet you'll find something. Now I believe that my research on it kind of was it wasn't it wasn't quite there. It wasn't really effective enough for me to 1:00:20 Speaker 0: want to try or to recommend, but 1:00:23 Speaker 0: new things come out every day. So 1:00:25 Speaker 0: maybe research 1:00:26 Speaker 2: that a little bit, and and we will too a little bit more. Do that. Alright, man. Am I taking this home? You take it home. I'm taking this home. Alright. 1:00:34 Speaker 2: I will try to keep this brief. My daughter is 30 and insulin resistant 1:00:39 Speaker 2: and has been microdosing 1:00:41 Speaker 2: tirzepatide 1:00:42 Speaker 2: with NAD and B12. 1:00:44 Speaker 2: It took a couple of months, but she started to lose weight, but most importantly, her body composition has changed a lot. 1:00:51 Speaker 2: Even though she's not losing more, 1:00:53 Speaker 2: her belly fat has gone down. We've been doing heavy weights and walking for a year and 0.5. 1:01:00 Speaker 2: Their tirzepatide 1:01:01 Speaker 2: is the only thing that got the scale and body to move. Here's my question. 1:01:06 Speaker 2: A couple months after the weight started to slowly come off and her body was changing, she had 3 episodes of feeling terrible. 1:01:14 Speaker 2: She tested her blood sugar and she was a 70 and 75. 1:01:19 Speaker 2: We know there that's not low, 1:01:22 Speaker 2: but to her, it felt horrible. 1:01:24 Speaker 2: Her dad is type 2. She is not yet. To me, she's been, 1:01:29 Speaker 2: running high enough that 70 and 75 felt low enough, 1:01:33 Speaker 2: though it wasn't. 1:01:35 Speaker 2: Would you agree that this means that her body is becoming more insulin sensitive? 1:01:40 Speaker 2: I think it's a good thing that she is freaking out. She thinks that the 1.25 1:01:45 Speaker 2: mg of GLP-one, 1:01:48 Speaker 2: GIP, 1:01:49 Speaker 2: could be making her hypoglycemic 1:01:51 Speaker 2: thoughts. 1:01:52 Speaker 2: Also, she has had NAD and B12 added to the tirzepatide. 1:01:57 Speaker 2: She also 1:01:58 Speaker 2: or she feels it has made her anxiety a lot worse. Thoughts? 1:02:02 Speaker 2: I think it's her glucose and insulin levels 1:02:05 Speaker 2: leveling out. Yep. And her body is freaking out, and it's actually a good thing. We can change the add ons 1:02:13 Speaker 2: to L carnitine. 1:02:15 Speaker 2: For your information, she has medical anxiety. Thank you. I appreciate it sincerely. 1:02:20 Speaker 2: Peptide 11 mom. 1:02:21 Speaker 2: Good 1. Good stuff. I liked it. That was great. 1:02:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it could improve the 1:02:27 Speaker 2: the insulin sensitivity. 1:02:28 Speaker 2: When the glucose normalizes, 1:02:30 Speaker 2: it's going to feel uncomfortable. 1:02:32 Speaker 2: I think that she's, 1:02:34 Speaker 2: this is where she's at. Like 1:02:35 Speaker 2: when the body changes, 1:02:37 Speaker 2: it's changing. You weren't feeling like you just were. So for a lot of people that's going to do. 1:02:42 Speaker 2: I think for your daughter, I think some protein, electrolytes, 1:02:45 Speaker 2: make sure the food 1:02:47 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. The space to go further, 1:02:52 Speaker 0: to feel better, to do something you never thought possible, 1:02:56 Speaker 0: and this space starts with Ultra Fit. 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If she stops eating because of the tirzepatide, it's going to counteract the tirzepatide 1:03:49 Speaker 2: because it has absolutely slowed down her metabolism, 1:03:52 Speaker 2: and she stops, plateaus, might even go backwards. So make sure she eats 1:03:57 Speaker 2: enough. It's very, very important and high protein. 1:04:01 Speaker 2: Also because of her anxiety, I would imagine she says her age 30, she's good. So Selank, 1:04:08 Speaker 2: Semax, 1:04:09 Speaker 2: those should be a given. You could even maybe take out the tirzepatide for a little bit and try the Tesofensine. 1:04:15 Speaker 0: Might might work 1:04:17 Speaker 0: might give anxiety. 1:04:19 Speaker 2: But it doesn't doesn't do that much. I think I think, I'm from the old school. If you haven't figured it out by now, I think for your daughter, what will do really well for her, I don't know if you're into church. I don't know if you whatever your lifestyle is, but if she just starts, like, serving, going to feed some homeless people or just do some of the things that are really 1:04:38 Speaker 2: out of self and helping other people, she will stop thinking about how she feels and she will feel amazing. And it will light a fighter in her soul and some of her problems will 1:04:50 Speaker 2: slowly fall away because we are so in tune to ourself if we're sitting there and just thinking about ourself. I do it with a lot of my sponsies. Like, dude, get out and help people. You ain't gonna think about you if you're thinking about somebody else. 1:05:02 Speaker 2: It works wonders. It really, like, lights 1:05:05 Speaker 2: people's soul on fire. I believe our purpose in life is to help other people try it. Watch. See if I'm wrong. Let's try that. Right. Yes. 1:05:16 Speaker 2: Mean, 1:05:17 Speaker 0: really. I really do agree. And Jada, when somebody comes, comes to you with their problems and you tell them 1:05:23 Speaker 0: you're being selfish and 1:05:26 Speaker 0: start being grateful. That's not at all the answer I needed, but it actually probably is the answer you needed. Anyway, your daughter, it seems, so mom, I think you're spot on. I think you're absolutely right that, those 1:05:38 Speaker 0: changes, 1:05:39 Speaker 0: are making her feel 1:05:42 Speaker 0: like her blood sugar is crashing and not as comfortable because she's not loaded up on sugar and, 1:05:47 Speaker 0: just tell her keep toughing it out. I think you so I think, mom, you're on the right track. Right? I'll note. That is I think that I think that that's what's going on. 1:05:57 Speaker 0: I would I would 1:05:59 Speaker 0: if it were me and my daughter, I guess, I'd move them to Retta instead of just Epatide. Yeah. 1:06:03 Speaker 0: It's not gonna make her go hypoglycemic. 1:06:06 Speaker 0: What might make her go but not even really even 1:06:09 Speaker 0: okay. If if she's not eating enough food, 1:06:12 Speaker 0: okay, that makes a blood person's blood sugar. Hell yeah. Tank. Right? That's where else you can- That's what I'd say. That's 1:06:18 Speaker 0: probably what's going on. So, yeah, I think that she needs to make sure that she's eating consistently, 1:06:23 Speaker 0: and that's yet another reason to 1:06:26 Speaker 0: switch that to Retta. Because you actually have an appetite. Food sounds good to you, just not a lot of it and not the bad food. It's like, what's better? Right? Forces you to, like, that perfect portion control 1:06:37 Speaker 0: and you get your nutrients so you don't, a, go into, you know, lower 1:06:42 Speaker 0: all your blood sugar and you don't lose a bunch of muscle, 1:06:45 Speaker 0: etcetera. 1:06:46 Speaker 0: The NAD 1:06:47 Speaker 0: potentially could be making the anxiety not good. You know what makes anxiety not good? It's being really hungry too. You know? When we're low on food, 1:06:56 Speaker 0: that just boosts energy and anxiety. Do that. Bad energy. Right? It's like, yeah. So make sure that she's eating. The NAD is has some stimulant effects. It can 1:07:07 Speaker 0: make certain people feel, anxious, 1:07:09 Speaker 0: so be aware of that. But 1:07:12 Speaker 0: it's it just it sounds like she's been battling this her whole life and it's genetic. Right? You said, Not yet. She, her dad is type 2. She is not yet. Therefore, she is type 3. 1:07:22 Speaker 0: I read that as that's what has to be happening. Right? 1:07:26 Speaker 0: How else 1:07:28 Speaker 0: could she test her blood sugar very fast? Right? You guys, so this seems like a plan this seems like a 1:07:35 Speaker 0: problem that has been, you know Yeah. Gaining on her her whole life. So keep working at it. It's not gonna get solved immediately, 1:07:42 Speaker 0: but there is gonna be some discomfort until her body normalizes 1:07:45 Speaker 0: and gets back to it. But you are kicking ass, mom. Good for you. And do everything JD said, 1:07:51 Speaker 0: and good luck, and you just and she just keeps trying to keep going. Right? Consistency 1:07:56 Speaker 0: is the key. She didn't gain all the weight, right, in 6 weeks, 1:08:01 Speaker 2: even 6 months, right? She probably took her years to gain weight and to develop 1:08:06 Speaker 2: that used to being high insulin. So it's going to take some time to keep working. 0 Good stuff. Great questions. Very different from the ones that have come through some for a while they were kind of redundant, not knocking it because I know we got new viewers all the time, so it's great, but those are some good ones, man. So again, if a little bit more info info for some of you, help us answer them a little bit more in-depth. 1:08:28 Speaker 2: Join the school if you haven't. We have a $25 1:08:31 Speaker 2: a month that has some extras where you can find some different protocols that, you know, and then the VIP, which is what, $60 a month. We got a lot coming down. I know for some of you haven't seen a lot of stuff, but you do get a big discount. You got all kinds of different, 1:08:47 Speaker 2: protocols 1:08:48 Speaker 2: on there. So Was that those actually come with the with the 25, so that's 0 in luck. Then the then we're gonna be dropping all kinds of like, videos that are just we've already done some that we need to film some more, but we did even 1:09:00 Speaker 0: some, gear, 1:09:02 Speaker 2: because we can, and there's a lot of questions on it. So we did a bulking stack, a cutter stack, 1:09:10 Speaker 2: and 1:09:10 Speaker 2: that's not for you, cool. It's for a lot of people, they were interested, but, there'll be a lot of that stuff. 1:09:15 Speaker 2: And just join the community because 1:09:18 Speaker 2: it's a rad community. There is so much camaraderie. There was so much just people lifting each other up and being positive. That was the reason why we did it. So we love seeing that stuff. So, other 1:09:29 Speaker 2: than that, 1:09:30 Speaker 2: we're going to interview 1:09:32 Speaker 2: Peter tomorrow and it drops on Monday and you're gonna love that. That's me, Phil. If you wanna throw some questions, 1:09:39 Speaker 2: you know, we'll read through them. If you we you got about a day. 1:09:43 Speaker 2: If you have some questions, 1:09:44 Speaker 2: shoot them in any 1 of our DMs. They're all checked, and, we will Yep. See if Yeah. Talk about the plans. The owner of Janoship Yeah. Which is like a independent 1:09:53 Speaker 0: lab that started in The Czech Republic, and they test people have been sending different samples of everything, started with steroids years ago, and now it's in now still steroids and peptides, 1:10:04 Speaker 0: etcetera. So, yeah, 1:10:06 Speaker 2: please give questions. We'll we'll try to ask him there too. We'll ask 1 live on the thing and we'll say, this is from I know not your name. We won't do that to you, but, we will say this is from the audience. Yeah. That'd be cool. The last thing I wanna say that I forgot this, the firefighter from El Paso, right, you've lost 1:10:19 Speaker 0: you haven't lost weight or you've in fact gained weight, but inches have come off of your waist. I mean, that's literally the goal. I mean, that's what the point, that is the best news possible. Right? That is the goal. How do you feel? How do look? You know, how do you feel and how you look? Muscle weighs way more than fat, and so you absolutely, 1:10:35 Speaker 0: that's what we call body recomposition, 1:10:37 Speaker 0: right? I don't care what the scale says. Right? Yeah. It's body weight stayed the exact same, right? But a person's body can look fucking way different. Yeah. I have, like, before after pictures of of of a woman who is, like, 10 pounds heavier, 1:10:52 Speaker 0: and everybody would say, no way. She's 20 pounds lighter. But because she has turned off, got rid of all the fat, add a whole bunch of muscle, muscle goes into the right places, fat's always in the wrong places that makes you look bad. 1:11:04 Speaker 0: So dude, yeah, that's the goal. Good job. We appreciate you guys. We love you, 1:11:10 Speaker 0: so we will see you next time. Yep. That's it. Good night, America.