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0:48Speaker 2What day is it? It's cold. It's a rainy day. I know. It's been raining. It's lot this year, dude. Has it? No. I don't really I don't feel like it is. I remember about 2 springs ago, it was rainy here. It's been raining a lot. But okay. But, I mean, shit, we just went through what? 3 weeks of, like, 80 degree weather in January and February. So,
1:08Speaker 2yeah, it's rainy right now. A little cold. It's cold. Where else is cold? My office is hot. Yeah.
1:15Speaker 2You guys get cold, I get hot. Yeah. I'm cold. Now I have a sweatshirt on and I'm starting to get hot. Yeah.
1:25Speaker 1so we're doing the Q and A episode today, which, you know, I say this often, but if you're new, it's our favorite just because we get to touch the people. We get a little feel of the people that listen, man. So we,
1:38Speaker 13 episodes ago, Will and I changed the format, at least for us. We would generally sit down really quickly, read through them and just to make sure, like, and then we would do podcasts. Now we do them separately, reread them so that we don't share the answers. You're gonna have answers that are my answers, answers that are here his answers because we don't want to Mhmm. Kind of piggyback off each other even though a lot of times we're gonna agree. Yeah. Sometimes we won't, and that's good. Because even just even us saying, here's what I think. Here's what you think. We start to
2:08Speaker 2mold our answer. Right. Oh, that makes sense. Maybe I'll include that in my answer, and then that's not really real. Then we don't give any individual opinion. Right?
2:17Speaker 1And we are very different, if you haven't noticed. Very different. That's what make us makes us I think that's what makes the podcast
2:24Speaker 1work well because we're different people. You're very different. I'm very different. And
2:28Speaker 1Yeah. That's it, man. Yeah. I think it would be boring if we were the same. It would be boring. Well, I have 2 people. Yeah. The same.
2:35Speaker 2They're the same. Both both good looking, though. Both fair. Am allowed to say that? Yes. You know what's funny? I'm just joking.
2:48Speaker 2who I actually like not maybe not like the most, but I'm most interested in talking to usually are people who are opposite me.
2:56Speaker 2Interesting. Let's say I go move into a sober living. Right? And there's a guy who's like me. Period.
3:01Speaker 2It's interesting. Because I already know me. Like, I don't really I'm not that interested in another,
3:07Speaker 2like, gym bro that's similar to me. Right? That's interesting. But they but they but they like me. I just know this because I've been in a lot of, like, sober livings or
3:17Speaker 2new teams, whatever. Right? Where you're meeting all these new people, the people who are attracted to me, but I kind of really like when I go into a sober living. Like, I really like this super nerdy kid who
3:26Speaker 2who likes something completely opposite. Yeah. A little bit slow. Don't know because I'm curious about himself. Yeah. I just wanna as long as he has something to say. As long as he's, like, not just introverted?
3:41Speaker 2You know? He knows, I don't know, something all about science or he's an engineer. I'm like, alright, dude. That's cool. Something about that. This is not myself on the back or think I'm something. But
3:50Speaker 1I was so bad for those kids sitting alone, dude. Don't know if I gonna sit by them. I don't if was gonna sit by them, and I try to pass that on to my boys, man. Yeah. I mean, they're a little young for that, but I'm gonna say, dude, go sit by that kid, dude. Yeah. What are you about to lose? Because you're cool. Everybody likes you. I mean, in high school, like I never was a bully and that was never actually okay. Like, that was not a cool thing to do. Yeah.
4:16Speaker 2yeah, some people are not right? I don't know. Yeah. Not to pat myself on the back, but some just whatever. That's me. That's That's me. That, like, are easy that God gave me that was that was helpful in life, and not everybody has that. So Yeah.
4:37Speaker 1we love the fact of you just the comments we get from you guys. I know I'd say it often, but I want you to understand is how it moves us. We get a lot of hate mail too,
4:46Speaker 1which comes with the territory. When you open up your world to social media, you are subjected to a lot of hate mail, so to speak, and like you have to have thick skin. Thank God I do. You don't have to read it as much because you don't read the key stuff. But,
5:00Speaker 1so when we get the comments that are flattering and just we can tell they're genuine, they mean a lot to us. They really do. So we appreciate all of you guys. So as always, you kick us off because you always do. Why why stray from hours working? Right. Alright. So number 1, here we go. I
5:17Speaker 2started Semax a couple weeks ago, and I feel very motivated and productive using it. Does Semax help long term brain health, or is it just short acting
5:30Speaker 2so I haven't started it yet. But will this help long term brain health or just while running a cycle? Also, since Selank helps calm anxiety,
5:46Speaker 1Alright. Good. Is it a matter of an opinion on this completely. I mean, we've said it countless times, we're not doctors, but I didn't even know if doctors would know how to answer this anyway because we're talking about peptides here. So I'm going to answer it how I generally try to just be logical and subjective to just kind of what makes sense. Like, for example,
6:04Speaker 1if 1 peptide that everybody knows is gonna be BPC-one 157 or in a TB or the blood, right? So if you have an injury,
6:23Speaker 1using it. It's going to work a lot better. So that's my opinion. Do I think it can repair in longevity?
6:34Speaker 1oomph from it if you continue on or at least cycle it over and over and over again. So, again, I think that's going be a matter of an opinion on this. I don't think anybody fully, fully knows, but I just try to use logic when I think through these types of answers.
6:54Speaker 1I would take it in the morning, personally. You know, I've ran some cycles of this. I take them together.
7:04Speaker 1anxiety ridden, but I think they go together well. So I run them together and I always take them in the morning. They've worked well for me. So I I think you could get away with it either way. I choose the morning. That's my take. K. Yeah. They
7:38Speaker 2brain in longevity. Sure. So, yeah, it's gonna work a whole lot. You're not gonna take it now and, like, then be on that higher plane forever. Right? But but I would say that, absolutely, they for sure
7:52Speaker 2will make your brain better than than they than they left it. You know I mean? Like, how much of that, we don't really know. Long term, we don't really know. Most of the 1st of all, they haven't been around that long term.
8:05Speaker 2So Russians, they've taking a long time. Taking this stuff along. These 2 in particular. Specifically these 2.
8:10Speaker 2And so we don't really have long term data plus most of the data that isn't even long term is in Russia, and we don't really know about it right now.
8:20Speaker 2thing is okay. Yeah. Right. I know we we actually spoke to a woman who is competing in powerlifting. In the 1st event that she did,
8:29Speaker 2she was really nervous, and that hurt her powerlifting. So the 2nd event, she took a bunch of Selank before that.
8:36Speaker 2Did not to try to calm the nerves. Right? But you take too much or you take it to the wrong time.
8:45Speaker 2it's gonna do more to slow you down. Right? And so she said that time did not it didn't turn out well either because it slowed.
9:05Speaker 2his girlfriend. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So So she took it and said, yeah. You may not wanna take it. So it basically slowed her down a little too much for her athletic competition. I think that But that's we're talking if you're doing high level athletic competition and women resistance. And I think she told told us she took quite a bit.
9:20Speaker 2It's a little too much. I don't know, bro. It I think that 1 depends on how if you have, like, crazy anxiety and it's affecting you during the day, then take that during the day. Right? Absolutely. If you wanted to just relax at night and help, like, you know, maybe go to sleep better, get your brain in tune for that, then take it in at night.
9:45Speaker 2it just calms down. So put your brain in that mode to be able to sleep. Yep. It doesn't just knock you out and make you drool all over yourself.
9:56Speaker 2I don't know. It depends depends on who you are and, what you're using it for. Also, these are good in combination.
10:06Speaker 2Semax is a is a upper. Selank is pulling you down. So they're just gonna cancel each other out, but that's not actually the case. Yeah. They really complement each other when taken together. True. So good
10:21Speaker 1Think the cool thing about like the Semax, the Selank where we were talking about the Russians have been studying it forever and using it. They have used it as antidepressants
10:30Speaker 1for a long time, which that's awesome. Yeah. Instead of like our A really interesting. Yeah. That's rad. Mhmm. I think that's always found that very interesting.
10:39Speaker 2Instead of blasting kids with antidepressants. Well, for sure. I mean, kids too. Like, you get I mean, the suicide rates with on antidepressants on with kids, like They're always on antidepressants. They Every 1 of them. Yeah. But the the suicide rates are crazy. Like,
10:59Speaker 1Yep. Oh, man. I remember we luckily had to deal with any of that stuff, but man, you know, a lot of people do. Alright.
11:05Speaker 1Number 2, thanks for everything you do, team. I love it. I really appreciate how authentic you are and how you don't hide who you are. Awesome. Thanks, guys. Seeing how important family and faith are to you both is a big part of why I'm on the health journey myself. How rad is that? A bit about me. I'm 38, 6 4, currently 300 pounds down from 3 45.
11:47Speaker 1Good for you, man. You probably feel like a new person. My labs are finally looking great.
11:54Speaker 1I feel like a different person. My goal is to get 15% body fat. A recent DEXA scan showed I have
12:29Speaker 1I'm new to this type of fitness. I love to keep adding muscle while dropping another 50 pounds of fat. If budget weren't a concern,
12:44Speaker 1would you recommend to maximize recomp in my situation? Total open to any excitation. Thanks. What a great question. Yeah. Power lifters,
12:53Speaker 1man, those dudes ate a lot and lift a lot. That is a very unique way of training. So for you to switch, that's gotta be tough. That's gotta be tough. Got in our ways because they like to be big and lift heavy shit. Yeah. Yeah. So you wanna take that 1 1st? You want me to run? Sure.
13:11Speaker 2Right on. Good for you. Yeah. That's gonna be hard to I mean, shit. You got it, dude. At least at least you have the work ethic built in. Like, I mean, that's really the hard part.
13:28Speaker 2Cool. As long as your protein is good protein sources. Right? And it's not just kind of crap 250
13:35Speaker 2grams, like just drinking protein powder for all of those 250 grams. You know? We need real food
13:55Speaker 2try it 3 times a week. Some people like it, some people don't. Yep. But if you notice you're a big dude, my guess is that starts you're if taking it once a week, it probably, like, stops working around Thursday. If
14:13Speaker 2I mean, it's kind of the same old thing. Like, you it's time to add some peptide fatbergs. Right?
14:26Speaker 2to burn fat. I guess the biggest thing, but the 1st thing is you wanna lose fat, not muscle. So I would get on growth.
14:39Speaker 2and Ipamorelin blend. Yeah. For you, that'd be the best 1 because it's really trying to the Tesamorelin to help burn body fat. And then SLU-5AOD
14:52Speaker 25 amino 1 MQ. That's what I meant was shuttling the the fat in the mitochondria. It's 5 5 amino.
15:16Speaker 2but with very little break in between. So we're not going for, like, to set records in the gym, but,
15:22Speaker 2like, we we want to preserve all of your muscle. Right? I don't want you just to do a bunch of cardio. Okay? Lifting like heavy, like 4 to 8 reps,
15:32Speaker 2but very little break in between. So as a power lifter, you're going 4 to 8 reps, maybe less, taking a 5 minute break. Let all the muscle come back, all the oxygen and everything come back in you so then we can go lift as heavy as possible. Right? This time, push them hard, but wait 30 seconds. Do it again. In the absence of oxygen,
15:55Speaker 1Dude, I Little bit of a Mike Mike Mitscher type type approach. You don't do it as short as him, but Yeah. But I always I always thought about trying that, dude. But it's like, dude, I like to lift weights. 1 way to go for, like you'd, like, lift every 4 days. That's boring. Yeah. Yeah. No. Not that. Not that. I'm just saying, like, breast so lift heavy? No. I know what you mean. But low breath. Yeah. Low rest in between. Yeah. Yeah. So you're just Still heavy. Ass off. But Yeah. You do. When you lift heavy, you sweat. When you don't lift heavy, you don't really sweat. You know what Yeah. It's true. So I don't know. That it seems like
16:30Speaker 2is probably the 1st 1 I would add in, but I would definitely add in some growth to keep preserved muscle
16:37Speaker 2Yep. Got it. 230 pounds of lean muscles a ton. You should be able to burn fat pretty pretty easily, and you've shown that already. Yeah. So he went from 3 45 down to 300. Did he say what he wants to get down to? He probably He said he wants to lose 50 more pounds of Okay. Body
16:55Speaker 1Will said kind of some of the similar things that I'm gonna say, but I think that we sometimes share the same brain because we love all this stuff. And fat burners are fat burners. I mean, AOD, in my opinion, is just, man, it is right under a,
17:14Speaker 1Obviously, the Reta 5 megs is good. I don't think that you need to increase, like he said, maybe stretch it out, like he said, AOD in the morning,
17:22Speaker 1HGH in the morning, 2 I use for sure. Gosh, I hate to kinda keep using your sub, but 5 of me now. Here's where I'll change though.
17:44Speaker 1and throw in the, you know, the TB-five 100 and the BPC, because I know you're gonna be achy.
18:01Speaker 1dug into it more and more, and we continue to learn and evolve and change and opinions like viewpoints changed a little bit. You know, there's, we've talked about the HGH in the morning. Will it follow all the way through until nighttime? Will a secretagogue do maximize
18:20Speaker 1for you trying to burn fat that Tesamorelin at night, I think is going to be great for you. Here's where I'll say a little bit different. I
18:28Speaker 1think you should try a lot of different exercises and see what fits for you. And it's tricking the body. I hit every muscle twice a week.
18:37Speaker 1I have a main muscle, so I'll hit chest and then either a bicep or a tricep. I switch it up.
18:54Speaker 1and then I do a sub muscle a little bit lighter because that's not the main muscle. So that way I work out 6 days a week.
19:02Speaker 1I probably could get a little bit more, I think if I did have 2 rest days, but I don't, I like to work out. So,
19:08Speaker 1that's what I do and I get each muscle hit twice a week and that works well for me. I love it.
19:14Speaker 1Sometimes I do 12 reps and I'll do more of that. And sometimes I'll go heavy. Like today, dude, I felt good. I got some good sleep in the last couple of days and I sleep like shit usually. So, man, I hit heavy today. It felt great. Man, I just felt so good. I hit in my back so heavy. And then my subgroup was my biceps,
19:40Speaker 1I'm going to definitely say you're 38 years old. I think you should try to piggyback a little bit off on some fasting.
19:59Speaker 1eat numerous meals or whatever. Just try it, see if it fits. If you need to change the times and if you're a person who likes to eat 1st thing in the morning, 6 to 2,
20:08Speaker 1I like to I can push it out, and I have found for me it works. I can push that sucker out as far as I once I have food, I just want more food. So figure out what's work works for you, but throw some fasting, man. You're getting 38, and at the very least, you're going to burn a lot of fat. You're gonna be if you get that 16 hour mark, you're gonna get into autophagy, dead cells die off.
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20:51Speaker 0hydrates better than water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration. Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. It's 1 of my favorite things. So try that. Especially because you are you were 345,
21:04Speaker 2and you were a power lifter. You were eating absolutely everything you could possibly see. Very different. So your liver internal organs, that did that does not make for a super healthy
21:12Speaker 2liver, and, like, it was constantly being used. Right? Like, damn. Give it a break. Fasting. 1 of the biggest things is why, like, it's biblical as someone said earlier this morning.
21:23Speaker 2Everybody in the ancient world knew, like, this is gonna be good. Like, our finally, our liver gets to clean itself out. Right? So you've probably done some metabolic Digestion takes a break. And so exactly. Digestion takes a break. Like, fuck. Finally, to get 345 pounds to keep all that muscle, you didn't give it much breaks. So
21:48Speaker 1you know, we get stuck in our ways as humans. Like, we lift a certain way. We get stuck in that way. I'm not even that good at, like, always switching it because this is how I like to lift, but our body does better when we trick it. Right? So for you, you're probably so used to lifting those heavy weights. So for you to switch and change is probably pretty difficult. Right? But we grow when we do difficult shit. So I think this is gonna be great. Check back with us, man. I wanted to see how you do, man. So Yeah. 45.
22:18Speaker 2Okay. Number 3. Hey, guys. I've recently discovered the podcast and love it. I'm a newbie to peptide to the peptide world and have been on Reta for almost 4 weeks and love it. All caps. I'm a woman, 28 years old. I'm 5 7. Started at 216
22:49Speaker 2I feel all the things of appetite suppression and staying fuller longer on this small dose. I have 2 questions. Should I stay here at 0.75
22:57Speaker 2mg, which is if right, that's a super duper small dose. Yeah. I was trying to figure out if that's right. Once a week or because of the significant amount I am looking to lose, should I titrate up to 1 mg next week? 2nd question is, I'm curious about KPV, Tessa Ipa.
23:16Speaker 2Would any of these be a good thing or add? Should I just stick with Retis since I just started? Thank you, and really, really appreciate you too.
23:35Speaker 2blow your tolerance out because you inevitably will build a tolerance. So guys, you inevitably will need to slowly
23:44Speaker 2But essentially like, hey, you want you want it to work. Right? And so it sure sounds like as far as Reta goes to, like, you're getting
24:14Speaker 2every 6 days. So 0.5 mg. That's 0.5 a milligram. So Nothing. Let's make sure. I don't know which Retta you have, but imagine if you had
24:36Speaker 1once a week? Is that where you started? Under the 1st little blind? Right. That's like a little bit. Nothing.
24:42Speaker 2It's 1.05 of them. It sounds like, yeah, think that's what she's taking. But if that's what you're taking and it's working,
24:56Speaker 2I would also say, I don't know. Generally, here's the I gen we generally I would say start.
25:09Speaker 21 MIG Wednesday, 1 MIG Friday. Some of them need to go down from there to 0.5 a MIG, 0.5 MIG, 0.5 MIG. Some of them after a couple weeks after they, you know, really start to feel it, then they need to slightly go up by 0.5 mig increments. So
25:22Speaker 2but everybody is different. So you just be you and you feel it out. That's all I can really say on that 1.
25:30Speaker 2You do need to you wanna lose a significant amount of weight, which is great, and it and it will happen if you just keep working at it. So good job.
25:44Speaker 2I almost think if this Reta is working really good, I I don't know. I don't really want people to muddy the waters too much. KPV is good for your gut. If you have gut problems,
26:09Speaker 2Like, no. You don't have cancer. If you do, go to think you do, then let's go to a doctor. But
26:13Speaker 2I was like, take these Tums. So Tums kinda help. But basically, all that stuff, she has now taken KPV,
26:23Speaker 2you know, it's all occurring here in the gut. Yeah. Right? All it's like Really really thought that that makes rises up Yeah. Yeah. For, you know, heartburn. That's good. Yeah. Anyway and women a lot of women have gut issues. So KPV, cool. Tessa Ipamorelin will really help retain muscle. I think as as a woman trying to lose a bunch of weight,
26:40Speaker 2here, 1 of the biggest things is you lose weight, but you lose fat and muscle at the same time, which then slows your metabolism and it makes it harder to lose more weight. So by taking tesapia at a low dose, maybe 502
26:56Speaker 2is a great idea. It'll help you keep your muscle, which helps keep metabolism fast. And obviously the test is gonna burn belly fat.
27:03Speaker 2So I would say that would help you in your weight loss journey to take KPV if you have any gut issues. Yeah. Great. KPV cannot hurt. KPV in an injection or a pill?
27:15Speaker 2Either. Whenever you get trans on, I think that so my girl's taking an injection, and it has helped. So That's right. That's a good idea. I get heartburn all the time. Never really thought about using that. That's great. That and and,
27:25Speaker 2I mean, shoot, for autoimmune disorders, that's a lot of them are are current are starting really in the gut and also
27:39Speaker 1can be a fit for everybody because I just I'm under the opinion that pretty much all of us have gut issues because of the crap we eat. The seed
27:48Speaker 1oils are destroying our gut biome. I mean, just destroying our gut biome. Now, KPV is not gonna radically fix it because just the food that because we continue to eat the shitty food, but like, it's great. KPV is great. I
28:07Speaker 1So yeah, I think that's awesome. I definitely might have a little bit of a different opinion on that is I'm going to say that I would definitely go up on Loretta. I
28:16Speaker 1think that you should obviously get away with less is more for sure, but you are on such a low dose.
28:26Speaker 1Monday, Wednesday, Friday. You have a lot of weight that you want to lose, and I think that's still such
28:33Speaker 1So I would try that. And like Will said, you can always go down. Try it a week, try it 2 weeks, and then you have to also
28:44Speaker 1compound is in your body and it takes a little while for your body to catch up to all this stuff. So
28:57Speaker 1I would throw in an AOD in the morning. I've said it so many times. I'm gonna say it again because just women just need a little bit of some of these things and they go so far. The AOD in the morning with your Retatrutide and the Tessa Ipi at night, those will do wonders for you.
29:16Speaker 1but we're always going to look at how are you eating? What type of food are you eating? How much are you eating? Are you not eating?
29:32Speaker 1we were, he and I were talking about it. That's why I kind of put a reel together where I actually didn't think I posted it yet, but I filmed it.
29:42Speaker 1It is amazing, amazing, amazing. It's a scientific breakthrough if you use it properly. Like, if you or somebody I'm not saying you, if you, a person, like, takes Retta and changes their lifestyle in no way, and you're eating shitty food and just continue to sit on the couch and don't try to change your life and better your life and start exercising and eating better, the objective is to better and get better habits.
30:05Speaker 1And we do see that a lot where people don't try to improve those things. But if you use Retatrutide
30:22Speaker 1There's so many people that just want a magic pill, so to speak, and they want to take Retrutide and not be hungry.
30:34Speaker 1It is working. It is a damn scientific breakthrough. You're not supposed to not be hungry. Retrutide
30:40Speaker 1is the beauty of it is you are supposed to be hungry. God made you hungry for a reason. You're supposed to just eat less. That's what Retatrutide is amazing for. You're supposed to eat less. You know, Mike, I until I started taking Retatr, I never left food on my plate. Now my wife be like, You're gonna leave that? Like, it just makes you eat less, but you can enjoy fruit food. Like, if you started back at Semaglutide,
31:02Speaker 1you didn't eat, but you don't know how to not eat, you want to eat, you just want to change your habit. So kind of went on a tangent, but we do get a lot of that stuff and I hope that people
31:12Speaker 1don't use Retrutide as like a crutch and they just want to like eat like shit and then that's it. Because it's not gonna you're not even tapping the power of it. Like, change your habits. Went a little bit too, but you know what I mean. Right. Absolutely. But here's the beauty for you, Red. It's actually really hard to eat like crap and eat a lot while on it. Right? Because it literally, like, changes your food preferences
31:38Speaker 1but still But if you wanna have the kids, you're gonna pay the money. Absolutely. Work it properly. Yeah. For sure. You know what I mean? For sure. Alright. Am I up? Yeah.
31:48Speaker 1Had a great question for you guys. I wanna see if you can give me your opinion on the situation.
31:53Speaker 1I would like to start my mother on Better Chew Tie to help her get healthy and lose some weight
32:00Speaker 1and more than anything, help her change her lifestyle. Boom. She is 59 years old and she is overweight,
32:16Speaker 1thyroid problems. Her doctors are telling her not to use it because it can cause her cancer because of the thyroid problems.
32:25Speaker 1Really looking forward to you guys' opinion on the situation. I think it would help her a lot on the Reta.
32:35Speaker 2have a little bit of an answer for you. So these GOPs come with like a boxed warning that says it can in rodent studies,
33:07Speaker 2does she here's the question I would ask is, does she actually have a history of that cancer
33:19Speaker 2Chances are now, again, I'm not giving advice, but like, here's the deal. If it was my mother, I would say, hey, how's her quality of life right now? She's old. Yeah. No. No. She's getting old. She's old. She's getting older.
33:31Speaker 2Many How many questions does doctors ask her? I would be curious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. I would ask Ret. I would go I would have the doctor well, if I was a doctor, I would ask deeper into this because They don't. That's 1 thing. They probably don't. There's probably this slight box warning. This is rodent studies that might do this, but, like,
33:49Speaker 2cause that cancer. Now what's the risk to the reward here? But that's the other thing. It's like my mother,
33:54Speaker 2like, how is her quality of life right now? Is she just struggling right now? Is life very fun? Great. How much what if we give this to her and her life gets a whole bunch better and it's overweight? And in 15 years,
34:05Speaker 2she maybe develops cancer. Is she about to die anyway of natural causes anyway? And great. She has a great 15 more years. Right. I don't know. Personally, it looks like my dad had given him testosterone. He's like, oh, well, look at all these risks. I'm like, dude, what do you got to lose? Seriously.
34:22Speaker 2Like, people trip over a pebble when there's a mountain of benefit behind it. It's like, well, what about the pebble? Mhmm. You know I mean? Yeah. So It is so fun. I don't know, dude. I I think that that I would absolutely say, hey. Is there a Yeah. Does you have it? Is there a family history?
34:37Speaker 2Then there's the like, the cardiovascular benefits of of of this are huge, especially for an ordinary person.
34:43Speaker 2And although it does say that I know we know this in Reta, like, it's been something that's held it back from from being approved
34:52Speaker 2is that there is this risk that it can kinda increase your heart rate. Right? But the benefit of that for somebody who's an overweight individual
35:11Speaker 1if it was me, I would, I'd give it to her and make her have a great life, have a happier life right now. She's 59. She's overweight. You don't say the weight. So it would be like, oh, should we kind of knew that, like how much weight?
35:29Speaker 1What again, what is the risk to the reward? We'll answer it as if it's our mother because we're not doctors, but I don't even think your doctor knows. I So wouldn't even talk to that doctor because I bet that doctor didn't ask. Like, I say this a lot, but like, let's slow
35:49Speaker 1Like, why don't you worry about the food you're eating because that's just shit food and that's causing so much cancer. So does this doctor tell her to stop eating shit food? I sure hope he did if he's gonna tell her not to take Retatrutide because Retrutide is gonna bring the weight down and that can't be a bad thing. Like, it can't. Like, nothing's perfect.
36:07Speaker 1I would look at it if it was my mom. What's the risk to reward? The mountain of reward behind it is so worth the pebble of risk that he's talking about. And again, I hope that doctor was talking about her diet
36:23Speaker 1find a different doctor. Like, if these doctors aren't talking about diet and different things and stuff,
36:29Speaker 1you know I mean? Mhmm. They gotta know that stuff. They don't get they don't get trained on on diet, though. Terribly in on diet. What do you know? Like, people like, doctors have told people, well,
36:39Speaker 2you know, you might get protein poisoning because you're eating a 100 grams of protein a day. Dude. What?
36:45Speaker 1I always say, look at your doctor. Is he in shape? Then why would you if he's not in shape, why would you listen to him? Like, why don't you do it, doc? You know what I mean? Like, you're gonna do as I say, not as I do? You know what mean? I watched something on social media, which I rarely do, and they're like and it was somebody saying, like, here are showing pictures of, like, the head of the FDA or somebody who is the head of all of our right? And he's, like, morbidly obese. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like the health director of whatever. He's, like, saying how they're Yeah. I will I'll leave my comments out of but it's like, it's silly. Yeah. Oh, did you listen to a guy like that? Yep. Why don't you do it, doc? Why don't you do it? Right.
37:42Speaker 2MOTS-1C, Wolverine, or Glow? I've heard all mentioned to pair with Reta. Appreciate your insights or the
37:54Speaker 2tell us what you think the difference in effect was when from switching from once a week till Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Yeah. Alright?
38:01Speaker 2But also, hey, what should you pair with it? Damn. What's your goals? I guess you're saying if you're taking Retta, I guess I have to assume that the goal is to lose weight. So
38:21Speaker 2and it will help keep muscle on you while you are losing weight. Alright? That's kind of 1 of the biggest benefits there. Wolverine
38:28Speaker 2or Glow, like, dude, that stuff so Wolverine or Glow. Glow is basically just Wolverine, which is BPC- TB,
38:38Speaker 1These are well, do you ever use that for healing? I'm curious. Do you ever use healing? Yeah.
38:47Speaker 2I just use the Wolverine for healing. I was curious about that. Was gonna ask you. But I'm getting more and more I'm hearing about more and more people using GHKCU
38:56Speaker 2In fact, we were just talking to somebody about it and saying, like, just started using that and this and GHKCU SNAP-8 serum, And they've had, like, 1 tiny pimple in 1 month, and that's it. Yeah. And they're used to more. This
39:11Speaker 2dude that we talked to this morning, right, like, was talking about taking it for skin, for his skin being clearer. And so and I don't know. I'm just getting more and more people. My girl takes GHKCu
39:31Speaker 2which makes sense. Right? It's bringing more collagen to your skin. Sure. K? For sure. BPC and TB also because those help. Yeah. Right? With angiogenesis
39:38Speaker 2bringing more blood to your skin is gonna just heal things better. Mhmm. But I don't for healing? Nah. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure
39:46Speaker 1it should help, like, wound skin healing. Yeah. Cuts. It should heal help a cut, but not so much deeper than that. That's why I was asking because, I mean, in regards to the GHKC with the Wolverine, which is the blow,
39:59Speaker 1It just I just was curious because it seems like a lot of people are taking it. Yeah. And I'm just curious.
40:07Speaker 2I wanna take the Wolverine just because, dude, even just put it in injector in stomach Save me money. I feel so much better. K. So I want that. Mhmm. Also, what the hell? I'll take looking better in my skin. Yeah. Looking better and and, you know, in healing better. So then sure.
40:25Speaker 2And hell, while we're at it, I want my gut to feel better because everybody's gut is effed up. And if your gut is healthier and stronger, you're healthier and stronger, so might as well just take Clow.
40:38Speaker 2you're getting all of them. What do you want? All of them. All of them. Yeah. Yeah. Shit. That's usually my answer. Me. Well, it's morphing into me. How many are taking now? Like, 15? I have a thing tattooed on me. Says, you sure? I'll take 1. Yeah. Or I'll take another. Yeah. How many do you want? All of them. That's been, yeah. It's been my motto to in in my past life to a bad that turned bad.
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41:26Speaker 2Consult a health care professional if symptoms persist. You know what mean? But I think it's good nowadays.
41:33Speaker 1So, yeah, dude, I don't know for your answer. It's hard to answer that with a we don't know the objectives. Great
41:43Speaker 2But I would more if we're looking for straight weight loss, I mean, I'm still pointing to AOD, 5 minute 1 on q test
41:52Speaker 1I'm gonna say, you know, obviously we all wanna burn fat. Right? You're on Retatrutide, so you're trying to lose weight. That's probably the most
42:13Speaker 1I think, again, if we just slow down and just think logically of what are you trying to accomplish, if it's like for me right now, I'm trying to like do more nootropics type deal, and I'm usually focusing on
42:24Speaker 1fat burners and things like that, but that's my objective. So my objectives have changed, so the peptides have changed. Right? So if you're talking
42:58Speaker 1hopefully you're on testosterone replacement or at least go get your blood work done to see where your tests are at.
43:07Speaker 1We're not gonna lie. We're very blunt about it. We think that it's amazing in low doses. We don't think there's a high risk because we talk about it often.
43:32Speaker 1So again, it's really depending on what you're looking to accomplish because that question is so important. If it's brain
43:42Speaker 1fat burning, because we could put you on a fat burning stat that will burn the hell out of your fat if you just do SLU-5Amino-
43:49Speaker 1L- carnitine, and we could stack the hell out of it if you really wanted, or if you want to really focus in on the mitochondria, we could stack the hell out of it. So again, I'm saying that because it's a super vague question, so we could dig in deeper if we knew a little bit more on what is my objective.
44:04Speaker 1Can I answer that? Yes. Okay. I want to add something. We all get caught up in these questions about the peptides. Okay?
44:16Speaker 2exercise, all right? So let's just, let's I know we get caught up in like, all right, just answer some of the peptide questions, but like, damn, these peptides are here to amplify
44:30Speaker 2and, lifting weights and exercise. Better humans. Right? And better humans and Changing your lifestyle.
44:37Speaker 2It is not gonna replace the effort. It's there to amplify all of that effort that you do. I think that we
44:44Speaker 1don't talk about it enough to the degree where, like, that's our lifestyle that we we will always lift weights. We'll always work out, and we will always be
44:53Speaker 2cognizant of foods we eat and whatnot. So like, we love peptides, but that's weird. We know a lot about this stuff because we've, it's been our life forever. That's ground 0. And in fact, on top of just in what in like lifestyle you mean, it's like, there's a difference between, hey. Okay. Fine. I'll go to the gym. Right? I'll go to the gym and work out for for 40 minutes, 3 days a week. Okay? Like, that seems good to some people. But, like, so 40 minutes, 45 minutes, let's say, 3 days a week, you know, doesn't matter. You know, you have a week that's 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. Okay? Right. 3 times 45, if somebody else could do the math better than me, but is
45:33Speaker 2the whole week. That ain't much. Right. So lifestyle If you haven't worked out If you haven't done anything, that's a lot. But what I but lifestyle is like, yo, guess what we do on the weekends? Go hiking, go to the beach, go swimming, go surfing. Right? Like that's lifestyle needs to just change. It needs to be
45:50Speaker 2Yeah. Your whole thing. If you got a dog, great. Take a walk for 2 hours a day. I mean, what's 1 way I stayed lean for a long time? Was like, I just ran my damn dog for 2 hours a day if you have time. But,
46:01Speaker 2yeah, the whole lifestyle in general needs to change to be active. True that. This is why even caffeine is 1 of the best supplements. This is why a lot of these GNC fat burners work. Right? The right well, caffeine. What does caffeine do? Well, it restricts your appetite,
46:14Speaker 2speeds up your heart rate, so you're gonna be burning a little bit just more fat doing anything. It makes you not as lazy, so you ain't gonna sit on the couch as much. You're gonna get up and just walk around and do laundry and do other shit. You know? And
46:26Speaker 2and it's and it's it'll it'll heat you up a bit, which burns more calories just from doing that.
46:38Speaker 1you guys are good. Biggest fans of you guys. I watch you guys daily in your YouTube channel.
46:43Speaker 1I've learned a lot, but okay, I don't want to waste no time. Quick review on where I'm at. This is my 7th week on Retatrutide
47:27Speaker 1Awesome. I love it. I'm going to run this for 16 weeks, but on my last 8 weeks, I'm going to add 5Amino-1MQ
47:48Speaker 1off Reta for 4 weeks and then add it up again to the cycle. I want to hear your opinion on this and what you guys think. My goal is to keep losing weight at,
48:04Speaker 1Haven't overweight for a couple of years. By the way, I'm 35 years old. Thank you, guys. Please don't stop uploading content. It is really helpful and informative all the way from
48:14Speaker 1Texas brothers. How cool, dude. See, that's what I'm saying. Like, stuff like that, man. You guys don't even know. It really does
48:20Speaker 1mean a lot to us, so we're appreciative of that. You want me to take that? Yeah, go ahead.
48:57Speaker 1I say it all the time. I'm pretty damn lean and I love fat burners. I just love them. I try to be as lean as I can. So I take a lot of them. I'm
49:08Speaker 1but that's not that common for me to do that. So anyways, yeah, you can add in the 50 Five-1MQ
49:31Speaker 135 is a little bit young. In regards to the HGH, I'm always a let's write about the mark where
49:54Speaker 1So if you have not had your blood work done, I would definitely recommend you go get it and start there.
50:11Speaker 1I'm going to say that we say that often, but it is so true hormone replacement and getting your hormones in line
50:17Speaker 1is vital. It's up there with your diet and exercise that Will and I just talked about. So,
50:25Speaker 1plan of attack is fairly good. Again, I would still keep some fat burns in there. I mean, do you need to come off Retatrutide?
50:38Speaker 1but, know, there's some stuff that contradict that. So it's kind of a matter of, like, just trying it. If you feel like you want to get off it for a month, whatever,
50:47Speaker 1I stay on a low dose of it no matter what, and I'm pretty lean. So but I I like it. I like it. Get your hormones checked. I like to know where you're at. You seem like a cool dude. You follow us, obviously. So
50:56Speaker 1shoot us a DM. I'm curious to see where your numbers are at. And if your numbers are low, fix them. Mhmm. You gotta fix them. The only thing I really have to well, 2nd.
51:05Speaker 2Yeah, but there's no real, I don't, I don't know if you really need to or want to get off Retta. I don't, I don't think like the stopping that and cycling that 1 is the- Take it down. Is a may is an important thing. You're
51:22Speaker 2And then go back up when you're ready. I think cycling the others is great, dude. Go back to you know? Yeah. You can cycle down.
51:28Speaker 2Notice because the goal is to take as little as possible. So I I would try to cycle down instead of completely come off, and I wouldn't just abruptly come off either.
51:46Speaker 2Okay. Hey, guys. Love your show and straightforward, no BS way of sharing research. Your own experiences and your opinions on peptide use, efficacy,
51:54Speaker 2and safety. Lately, I've been reading a lot about the idea that peptides are dangerous, not the actual peptides.
52:02Speaker 2but that the peptide explosion and subsequent gray market expansion is lending itself to some not so great manufacturing and corner cutting, which produces peptides containing
52:17Speaker 2and know that we are choosing the safest product to inject? Is it just the manufacturing process that creates a contamination,
52:46Speaker 2So, like, yeah, you're right about Great question. That's a great question. More people don't ask you, actually. I I think that you you 1st asked, is the manufacturing the problem,
53:04Speaker 2bottling, taking that raw material, right, and putting it into vials at different locations. Right. K?
53:11Speaker 2Sure. I think that both so 1st of all, like, no BS answer, like, all of this raw the the manufacturing of the peptides, right, are all done overseas
53:20Speaker 2in China. K? I get yeah. Cool. If somebody could show me 1 example of it being done in India or some other country, but but the environmental impact on making these raws is just not feasible here in The United States. So if anybody tells you the raws are manufactured here in The United States, they lie to you. Yeah. They lie. Intentionally or unintentionally.
53:38Speaker 2I'm not sure. But That's right. It's still both a problem. The which is still both a problem. So,
53:49Speaker 2My guess is the most of the problems are gonna be the bottling portion. So they take here's the simplified
53:57Speaker 2folks, is they take raw material. Okay? I don't care. And this is what people call made in America, by the way, is buying raw raw product.
54:22Speaker 2stay together longer. It's more it's like a preservative a little bit, and it shows a little bit of volume. So you can see the peptide. If there was no salt puck in there, you'd go, what? Looks like you poured powder in here and then poured it back out. Yeah. And now I just have residue. Right? But that actually is the peptide. Salt puck, freeze dry it,
54:42Speaker 2Made in America. Right? Oh. That process now, cool. Maybe people believe, hey, American standards of doing that is cleaner than the Chinese standards of doing that.
54:52Speaker 2I think it totally depends on the actual lab that's doing that. Oh. Right? Or the underground lab or the dude's the dude's garage
55:01Speaker 2that he's doing it in. I guess how are you gonna look for it? Like, by the way, anything that we use, like, we have we we we look at endotoxin tests and
55:11Speaker 2in-depth COAs and have tested things for heavy metals, etcetera, etcetera. We've we have tested and got back some bad
55:22Speaker 2not done those. I have way early on before I ever even started trying to, like, get my own, bought them from other sources and taken something for a long time and then tested it later and realized that it had a shit ton of endotoxins in it. I think I said that before,
55:44Speaker 2a, here's what a lot of companies are doing is the manufacturers that they buy something from, okay, from China will send a test with them. Okay? Oh, look, tested my product. Now you should just trust me. And then they send that out. Then they tell the public, here's my test. Right? That's not cool. I know that,
56:06Speaker 2But I'm also test retesting them, and then we're gonna bottle them in a in a in a clean
56:21Speaker 1it wasn't planned. I had posted something today because we talked about this a little bit, and I felt like I needed to kind of throw something out there because we're
56:40Speaker 1if they're super cheap, you're doing it wrong because they're not being tested. They take a lot of money to be tested. So if a company
56:49Speaker 1has the money to test them, that cost is going to be passed on to you. That's why they're more expensive. Like, you know, and like, either you're gonna be able to see to a degree
56:59Speaker 1who the company is, if it's something that you can kind of pay attention to, if it's somebody you follow on Instagram, if it's wherever you find the company, there's gonna be some little nuggets that you can find along the way. This company's legit. You can kind of see. You can just be observant, be logical.
57:14Speaker 1A larger company that's charging you a little more, they have the money to test them, And that's going to be passed on to you. It's worth
57:27Speaker 1Is it going to kill you? Probably. High probability, no. You might get rashes and bumps and stuff, and the worst thing is you might get very low dose of whatever it is you're getting. Mhmm. But you're still spending money on it. So spend a little more money to use a good company. Trust me, they pass the cost on you because they test the products, but you know you're getting the products. Yep. Early on,
58:00Speaker 2early on to to test all of their equipment out because we happen to be close by. But to test their testing equipment. Right?
58:14Speaker 2to test them correctly, they needed 24 bottles. And so, like, that adds up for a company. Yeah,
58:19Speaker 2dude. Just to just to give, right, to Kitforth to get something tested in addition to I mean, I would say these tests to get it tested, on average, it's between 300
58:35Speaker 2and then on to do that for every single batch that is produced, like, that's adds up. He's right. And then you're losing 24 bottles in every single test.
58:43Speaker 2That's why the costs are higher. That's why the costs are higher. So then I and I would say, hey, man. Like, look and see if this or somehow figure out, hey, is there are there a lot of people buying from this
58:52Speaker 2company? I what I wouldn't do is test so here's the thing. A lot of these, like, Trustpilot and
59:06Speaker 2based on not just consumer reviews, not at all. That's like some percentage, but basically, like, do they have a payment processor that is that is a quality? Right? And if you don't, you miss now you're downgraded by, like, 50%. Oh, wow. Right? Because you're untrustworthy
59:22Speaker 2company because you're not using Visa or Master Card. Oh, man. A lot of these peptide companies, right, well, by the way, a pep to for a peptide company to get a payment processor, it costs about twenties
59:32Speaker 2about 20%. So every single dollar they make, 20%, goodbye. Yeah. Alright. Well, you'll see 10% of that. There's more costs.
59:48Speaker 2the product. But I just, I know that a lot of those considerations go into those trusting
1:00:06Speaker 2Do they treat you well? Do they do they talk to you? Do they kind of you know, they can't really tell you how you use things. Right? That's not legal because they can't
1:00:19Speaker 1they should at least respond and do the best. There's ways to sell. You can tell if like what companies are worth it and what it's there to read. Don't read
1:00:28Speaker 2the road signs. Do they stand by the products? Do they send you another 1 that gets whatever,
1:00:40Speaker 2Get a rash. Alright. Yeah. Where you don't get what you get. Yeah. I think the biggest biggest concern for me is that I'm like, yeah, you're giving me something that's like 0.5 of what you said. Working well. It was $7, dude. So Exactly.
1:00:50Speaker 2Alright. Love the pod and the crew. Hearing conflicting suggestions for staying on Reta at low dose of 1.5
1:00:56Speaker 2migs per week after reaching goal weight and titration down. Is it viable to keep running
1:01:02Speaker 2it to continue to be an internal fat burning furnace and to continue to gain benefits metabolically?
1:01:07Speaker 2What's your thoughts? And if yes, suggestion on how long to run it before desensitization.
1:01:13Speaker 2Suggested break and when to restart the same 1.5 mgs dose. Much appreciated, bros. Keep up the good work and the transparency.
1:01:23Speaker 1You wanna take Go ahead. Go ahead. I've been talking too much. So you got I don't think there's an exact answer everybody's gonna
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1:02:05Speaker 1being on it. You know, there's not years and years and years and years of study of it. So that's just the way it is.
1:02:19Speaker 1some of the ability where it kind of blocks the hunger. I think that's just in the beginning, right? But it's working. Like you do not need a lot of Reta.
1:02:26Speaker 1And again, it's kind of contingent, but if you've reached your goals and you're taking 1.5 mg, right, that's still such a low dose. Like I probably will continue to take 1.5 mg,
1:02:37Speaker 1which I have. That's my low dose. And then when I'm ready to burn more fat, I'll do 3 mg. And I plan on doing that for quite some time. So
1:02:46Speaker 1again, it's a matter of opinion. I don't think you necessarily need to come off on it. If you do, that's kind of up to you.
1:02:53Speaker 1I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna really answer that, but that's my take, man. I think that's such a low dose and people think it's not working. It's freaking working, dude. Retrite tooth is powerful. It's still burning fat. It's still working.
1:03:06Speaker 1then you can go down a little bit. I would kind of stay on it a little bit just to kind of keep it in your system personally.
1:03:12Speaker 2Right. I think that there is are learning that there's a lot of benefit to Retta, like, besides the fat burning. So I actually do think that you should stay. I think, like, we're learning it's actually good for you.
1:03:23Speaker 2And for, like, meta for metabolic health at a low dose. Okay? At a low, like, maybe even less than 0.5 1.5, like, 1.5 mg a week. Okay. Cool. That's low dose. Yes. I did. I thought that was 3 times a week. But honestly,
1:03:45Speaker 2yeah, for a little bit of metabolic, right, keep the fire the furnace going. So I don't know. You know, maybe do I wanna stay on it for 30 years? Probably not.
1:03:54Speaker 2I don't I don't know. Just I don't wanna have to be taking something for that long, but
1:03:59Speaker 2I don't see a year maybe drop down. Like, you know, play with it. Just be yourself. You know? If you can get around and just be fine with nothing, that's the goal. Right? I would love to just walk around naked and be happy and be perfect. Totally.
1:04:14Speaker 2There's nothing wrong with staying on it little bit long term. If you do get off it, definitely like wean, wean, wean down. Right? See how you got body goes. Right? If you wanna get back on it, what the hell? Go get back on it. If you wean down and you go, oh,
1:04:25Speaker 2wait. I like now I'm not feeling good or too much food noise or or fat's coming back, like, then just stay at that low dose or maybe bump slightly up where you were good. Stay there and then try in a month to wean back down. So there is no hard fast rules on this question. There's just really it's just
1:04:42Speaker 2you, but I don't see and we also don't really know long term data. Sorry, there's no data that tells us that 50 years is Right? What it Like, I don't know, but
1:04:50Speaker 2it's a pretty standard metabolic process and we can kind of guess and and forecast what the problems are gonna be long term and they're really
1:05:01Speaker 2Yeah, dude, there's no refined fast rule on that 1. Sorry. Alright. You're right. You do. Does that mean? Yeah. I read that 1. Hey, lads. Love your work. Love the potty. You must be from Australia
1:05:15Speaker 1been smashing it the last few weeks as I'm diving deep into the peps, looking for your opinion. I'm an endurance dad athlete
1:05:25Speaker 1gain muscle, strip fat, and endurance overall, and sometimes struggle in the distance stuff
1:05:32Speaker 1as I just can't eat enough fuel. Current running 4 times per week and the gym 5 times a week.
1:05:46Speaker 1megs weekly split up to Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Awesome. 1 meg of Wolverine nightly, CJC Ipam, nightly,
1:06:08Speaker 1but diving in hard. I've got a few other available to me now like Tessa, MOTS-1.0, AOD-1L-4.1
1:06:19Speaker 1That is a big thing in Australia. Legends. They say legends often. I didn't just say, like, legend. You wanna take that? Great.
1:06:33Speaker 2low dose, especially if your age, like, that's gonna help you recover so much. But you don't wanna be doing too much. I think that's hard to get. I think it is really hard. It's hard to get all this stuff, though. So I know. Was surprising that But it is doable. All this. Yeah. So but it is doable.
1:06:47Speaker 2But if you do take tests, like, keep it low dose because a lot of it isn't good on your endurance.
1:06:55Speaker 2also the RET, I don't know if you need, you know, you're diving in deep, but like, damn, you're working hard. Right? Yeah.
1:07:01Speaker 2With the RET, no wonder you can't get enough calories in to fuel you. You know, just with all that hard work, it depends on your genetics. Right? You may need less. You may be able to take less Retta and therefore could intake more food. Yeah. Might have to take that get off it. Or get off of it. I don't know. That's depending on how you feel and look. My guess is that's gonna cut into some of your energy just because, we need calories. You like you said, you need calories to to to to use energy.
1:07:27Speaker 2I think the growth is perfect to use. You need that for your recovery. Like, so your body's just gonna get beat up. It's that's what I'm seeing.
1:07:37Speaker 2means your body gets beat up. Right? Everybody looks great. I almost guarantee it doesn't has a lot of injuries.
1:07:51Speaker 2I think what JD said is is do do the do the HGH in the morning, the security dogs at night. K? HGH in the morning or, yeah, reason is at nighttime is our biggest pulse is right when we go to sleep. K? And you don't want your body to think, hey, wait. Look how much growth I have in it. Let's slow that pulse down. Right?
1:08:13Speaker 2So that's why you wanna do it in the morning and not at night right before that big pulse. All these other ones, well, experiment with them. Let's not throw them all in at 1 time,
1:08:26Speaker 2I would also do MOTS-C and SS 31 for sure. That's gonna help with your mitochondria. That's gonna, again, gonna help your repair and intracellular
1:08:34Speaker 2helping repair your body after you work really hard and burn off a lot of good nutrients
1:08:43Speaker 2that'll keep you healthy. Right? Our immune system is down too, like, when we at the peak time of exercise
1:08:55Speaker 1I don't know. I think that's all I have. Like, it looks like you're kicking ass and just keep doing that. You've thought through this. I would say the only thing that I could even add is you could actually, if you wanna, you having a problem not getting enough calories, could pull out the Retta. You can add in like a SLU-332,
1:09:14Speaker 1if you can get it. I don't know how that is in Australia, if that's where you're from. Cause Yeah. They offset each other well.
1:09:25Speaker 1That will help you kind of offset. The Retta will still do what the Retta do, and the MK will make you eat more. So that probably would be a good fit for you. I would try that if you can get the MK-six 77
1:09:37Speaker 2there. For sure. That's good. Actually, good point. You said you have access to Ipamorelin. I actually, like, take a decent amount of Ipamorelin if you can't get MK. So the same thing. Right? Those those work the same way through that ghrelin
1:09:56Speaker 2turns on your it makes your pulses not be pulses, but just Oh. Fuck, just steady rush of growth. Yeah. Whereas Ipah increases the heck out of your pulses,
1:10:07Speaker 2but they're all done through that ghrelin receptor. So I think the Ipah will be very helpful if you can't get to MK. Yeah. Love it. Yeah. But keep I don't know, dude. Keep kicking butt. Yeah. Take us home, dude. Alright. Hi, guys. I love the podcast. I've been using some peptides.
1:10:26Speaker 267 year old female. I've been lifting weights way before it was cool for women to lift. Nice. I'm lean in good shape, and my numbers are all good. But I was born with a stupid bicuspid aortic valve. My goal is to put off
1:10:39Speaker 2a valve replacement as long as I can. I've talked to a couple of functional doctors and they agree the peptides I am using could possibly help.
1:10:51Speaker 2Oh, I haven't found much info on it and haven't, and I haven't heard you guys talk about it. I've ordered it and plan on adding it once I finish this rounds of SS-thirty 1 and MOTS-three. All right. I don't know. So so this 1, I I'm I'm afraid I'm not going to give you a great answer. But 1st of all, as your doctors have told you, the bicuspid aortic valve is more of a structural thing. K?
1:11:14Speaker 2No peptides are going to, like, fix that problem. Now you kind of acknowledge that by saying, hey. I'm just trying to put off the replacements as long as I can. So,
1:11:24Speaker 2I do I think and so cardiogenic, there's just why you haven't found a lot of, info? Because there isn't a lot of info.
1:11:34Speaker 2I don't yeah. So I just don't have a lot of info for you. There isn't there's stuff that I think that SS-31 and MOTS-1Mozzi is better for you. It's better for this problem.
1:11:45Speaker 2I would if so my conclusion is I would be the 1 I would kinda go heavier on the SS 31. I'd still take the MOTS-E at maybe a MIG a day, but I would, like, be boost boost up your SS 31. Shoot. I mean, even up to, like, 10 MIGs a day.
1:12:06Speaker 2So 10 Migs isn't that isn't all that much. But, basically, that's just increasing the, like, integrity of your, like, mitochondrial wall. Right? Because
1:12:14Speaker 2all this energy and everything is made MOTS-seventy is boosting your mitochondrial energy. Right? This is kinda like the your engine.
1:12:22Speaker 2If 0.5 of this if if this energy is just leaking out the sides, right, and is not going through where it's supposed to go, it's just basically kinda worthless.
1:12:31Speaker 2So SS 31 is just shoring that housing up. So all of that energy gets used and goes down the right place so your body can't actually use it. Right? And it's very
1:12:50Speaker 2more than cardiogenic. Also, cardiogenic I mean, it's just tough. Like, even if we took it you know, I don't think we would notice a difference.
1:13:00Speaker 2very deficient like we talked about and and and just happens to be that 1 1 in 1000 cases, like, or maybe more
1:13:11Speaker 2but again, I don't have enough research to even give you a recommendation on that. Yeah. That's like- can only give you my experience with certain things, and I
1:13:21Speaker 1what entails a replacement valve in the recovery time, and maybe that's your main objective to avoid that. I can just speak with my experience recently to where I tried so hard to fight this damn surgery. I've had 4, so this was my 5th and I just was so, so trying. I took so much Wolverine and TB-five hundred and BPC so
1:13:41Speaker 1much trying to like put it in my bottom part of my leg with the nerve and my butt just, I did my best.
1:13:52Speaker 1I don't know again, I'm not gonna tell you to have the surgery or not have a surgery. I don't know what that entails, but my experience when it's something that's out lie, peptides aren't gonna fix it, you know? So if you're prolonging it anyway, might as well just kind of get it done, heal, and keep kicking ass.
1:14:11Speaker 1don't know what the recovery time is. Happy for your doctor who said that pepatides are probably a good play.
1:14:18Speaker 1come around to the fact that they better jump on the ship or the ship is going through the.
1:14:26Speaker 1Love you, doctors. We get a lot them coming on. And then also, so we're gonna throw us out an end on this. So we have, man, this podcast has come a damn long way and we love it. We enjoy it. It's 1 some of the favorite things that we do. And,
1:14:39Speaker 1we do 2 podcasts a week. We do the Q and A, which we just did, and we do a peptide of the week, which is we usually break down too. Sometimes we talk about TRT because we love it.
1:14:49Speaker 1We are thinking about adding 0.333 that will add a lot to our plate, but I think it would do a lot. So give us some feedback. So the idea behind it, at least, is we are thinking, we have to think through this more, so a little premature, but we wanted your thoughts. We were thinking maybe adding another
1:15:10Speaker 1guest of the week, maybe a doctor or a nurse practitioner or somebody in the realm of what we do. We are having a friend of ours on who does my Botox and,
1:15:22Speaker 1she runs a couple of wellness centers and she knows a lot about it. She travels all over the world to do education on all kinds of stuff. So ladies,
1:15:30Speaker 1maybe next week we're going to have her on. The reason we want to have her on, she does, hormone pellets,
1:15:39Speaker 1and a lot of women have been hitting us up about stuff for you guys. So she's gonna come on. She goes well to center. She knows a lot about a lot of that stuff. She's gonna talk to you ladies. So let us know about that and let us know if the 3 a week would be something of interest and we will sit down and talk about it. Yep. Cool. For Joe. Alright, we've gone long. So we love you guys. We will see you next time. Good night.