Peptide Q&A #29 – Semax & Selank Brain Longevity, RETA for Women, & Peptide Quality Truth
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0:24  Speaker 1:  Welcome back to the peptide of the week podcast.
0:28  Speaker 1:  I'm your host, JD Denham. Cross way, my buddy, William T. Haws. What's up, dude?
0:34  Speaker 2:  What day is it? It's cold. It's a rainy day. I know. It's been raining yesterday. This year, dude. Has it? No. I don't really I don't feel like it is. I remember about 2 springs ago, it was rainy here. It's been raining a lot. But okay. But, I mean, shit. We just went through, what, like, 3 weeks of, like, 80 degree weather in January and February. So,
0:54  Speaker 2:  yeah, it's rainy right now. A little cold. It's cold. Where else is cold? My office is hot. Yeah.
1:00  Speaker 2:  You guys get cold, I get hot. Yeah. I'm cold. Now I have a sweatshirt on and I'm starting to get hot. Yeah.
1:06  Speaker 1:  It's been cool though, man. It's been definitely cool.
1:10  Speaker 1:  So we're doing the Q and A episode today, which, you know, I say this often, but if you're new, it's our favorite just because we get to touch the people. We get a little feel of the people that listen, man. So we,
1:22  Speaker 1:  maybe 3 weeks ago,
1:24  Speaker 1:  3 episodes ago, Will and I changed the format, at least for us, we would generally sit down really quickly, read through them and just to make sure, like, and then we would do the podcast. Now we do them separately, reread them so that we don't share the answers. You're gonna have answers that are my answers, answers that are here his answers because we don't want to Mhmm. Kind of piggyback off each other, even though a lot of times we're gonna agree. Yeah. Sometimes we won't, and that's good. Because even just even us saying, here's what I think, here's what you think, we start to Yeah. Mold our answer. Right. Oh, that makes sense. Maybe I'll include that in my answer, and then that's not really real. Then we just don't give any individual opinions. Right. Right? So
2:02  Speaker 1:  And we are very different, if you haven't noticed. Very different. That's what make us makes us I think that's what makes the podcast
2:09  Speaker 1:  work well because we're different people. You're very different. I'm very different. And
2:14  Speaker 1:  Yeah. That's it, man. Yeah. I think it would be boring if we were the same. It would be boring. Why have 2 people? Yeah. The same.
2:20  Speaker 2:  They're the same. Both both good looking, though. Both good. Am allowed to say that? Yes. You know what's funny? Funniest joke in
2:27  Speaker 2:  in my life. Like, I, you know, I've been to well, met a lot of people and the people who are
2:33  Speaker 2:  who I actually like not maybe not like the most, but I'm most interested in talking to
2:38  Speaker 2:  usually are people who are opposite me.
2:41  Speaker 2:  Interesting. Let's say I go move into a sober living. Right? And there's a guy who's like, why? Curious.
2:46  Speaker 2:  It's interesting. Because I already know me. Like, I don't really I'm not that interested in another,
2:53  Speaker 2:  like, gym bro that's similar to me. That's funny. That's interesting. But they but they but they like me. I just know this because I've been in a lot of, like, sober livings or new teams, whatever. Right? Where you're meeting all these new people, the people who are attracted to me, but I kind of really like when I go into a sober living. Like, I really like this super nerdy kid who
3:11  Speaker 2:  who likes something completely opposite. Yeah. A little bit stuff. Don't know. Because I'm curious about himself. Yeah. I just wanna as long as he has something to say. As long as he's, like, not just introverted?
3:22  Speaker 2:  Yeah. Yeah. As long as he's just not nerdy about
3:25  Speaker 2:  nothing.
3:26  Speaker 1:  You know? He knows, I don't know, something all about science where he's an engineer. I'm like, alright, dude. That's cool. Tell me about that, dude. And this is not a pat myself on the back or think I'm something. That's but I always feel bad for those kids sitting alone, dude. Don't know. Gonna sit by them. I'd try
3:40  Speaker 1:  to pass that on to my boys, man. Yeah. I mean, they're a little young for that, but I'm gonna say, dude, go sit by that kid, dude. Yeah. What are you about to lose? Because you're cool. Everybody likes you. I mean, in high school, like I never was a bully and that was never actually okay. Like that was not a cool thing to do. Yeah.
3:55  Speaker 1:  And my gig. No.
3:57  Speaker 2:  Because what the hell? I mean, life has been good to me.
4:01  Speaker 2:  And,
4:02  Speaker 2:  yeah, some people are not right? I don't know. Yeah. Not to pat myself on the back, but some just whatever. That's easy. Yeah. That's easy. That, like, are easy that God gave me that was that was helpful in life, and not everybody has that. So do that.
4:15  Speaker 1:  Do what you can, man. Do what you can. But
4:18  Speaker 1:  we are here. We're gonna talk about the Q and A, man. Really quickly,
4:23  Speaker 1:  we love the fact of you just the comments we get from you guys. I know I say it often, but I want you to understand just how it moves us. We get a lot of hate mail too,
4:32  Speaker 1:  which comes with the territory. When you open up your world to social media, you are subjected to a lot of hate mail, to speak, and like you have to have thick skin. Thank God I do. You don't have to read it as much because you don't read the key stuff. But
4:46  Speaker 1:  so when we get the comments that are flattering and just we can tell they're genuine, they mean a lot to us. They really do. So we appreciate all of you guys. So as always, you kick us off because you always do. Why why stray from ours working? Right. Alright. So number 1, here we go.
5:02  Speaker 2:  I started Semax a couple weeks ago, and I feel very motivated and productive using it. Does Semax help long term brain health, or is it just short acting
5:12  Speaker 2:  while cycling this? Same question with Selank. I just ordered this,
5:16  Speaker 2:  so I haven't started it yet. But will this help long term brain health or just while running a cycle? Also, since Selank helps calm anxiety,
5:26  Speaker 2:  should this be taken in the evening or in the morning?
5:29  Speaker 2:  Thank you.
5:31  Speaker 1:  Alright. Good. It's a matter of an opinion on this completely? I mean, we've said it countless times, we're not doctors, but I didn't even know if doctors would know how to answer this anyway, because we're talking about peptides here.
5:41  Speaker 1:  So I'm going to answer it how I generally try to just be logical and subjective to just kind of what makes sense. Like, for example,
5:49  Speaker 1:  if 1 peptide that everybody knows is going to be BPC-one hundred 57 or in a TB or the blood, right? So if you have an injury,
5:57  Speaker 1:  let's go like this. If you have an injury
5:59  Speaker 1:  and you are using that and you stop,
6:04  Speaker 1:  it's gonna heal it probably a little bit, but you should continue
6:08  Speaker 1:  on
6:09  Speaker 1:  using it. It's gonna work a lot better. So that's my opinion. Do I think it can repair
6:14  Speaker 1:  in longevity?
6:15  Speaker 1:  Sure.
6:16  Speaker 1:  Do I think it will? Probably not. I think that you're going to get the best oomph from it if you continue on or at least cycle it over and over and over again. So, again, I think that's going be a matter of an opinion on this. I don't think anybody fully, fully knows, but I just try to use logic when I think through these types of answers. And that would make be logical to me. When it comes to the Selank,
6:39  Speaker 1:  I would take it in the morning, personally. You know, I've ran some cycles of this. I take them together.
6:47  Speaker 1:  I'm not somebody who's hugely
6:49  Speaker 1:  anxiety ridden, but I think they go together well. So I run them together and I always take them in the morning. They've worked well for me. So I think you could get away with it either way. I choose the morning. That's my take. K. Yeah. They
7:03  Speaker 2:  are known to so Selank and Semax are known to, right, increase your BDNF, brain derived nootrophic factor.
7:12  Speaker 2:  Also, really support, like, brain elasticity,
7:16  Speaker 2:  learning,
7:17  Speaker 2:  resilience,
7:18  Speaker 2:  okay, while you're on. And those all of those things make a healthier
7:23  Speaker 2:  brain in longevity.
7:25  Speaker 2:  Sure. So, yeah, it's gonna work a whole lot. You're not gonna take it now and, like, then be on that higher plane forever. Right? But
7:33  Speaker 2:  but I would say that, absolutely, they, for sure,
7:37  Speaker 2:  will make your brain better than than they than they left it. You know I mean? Like, how much of that? We don't really know. Long term, we don't really know. Most of the 1st of they haven't been around that long term.
7:48  Speaker 2:  All of the data is in Russia.
7:51  Speaker 1:  Those Russians, they've been taking a long time. They've taking this stuff long time. These 2 in particular. Specifically, these 2.
7:56  Speaker 2:  And so we don't really have long term data plus most of the data that isn't even long term is in Russia, and we don't really know about it right now. The
8:04  Speaker 2:  last
8:05  Speaker 2:  thing is okay. Yeah. Right. I know we we actually spoke to a woman who is competing in powerlifting. And the 1st event that she did,
8:15  Speaker 2:  she was really nervous, and that hurt her powerlifting. So the 2nd event, she took a bunch of Selank before that.
8:21  Speaker 2:  Did not to try to calm the nerves. Right? But you take too much or you take it to the wrong time.
8:26  Speaker 2:  I would not take it before a big needing to perform athletic event because
8:31  Speaker 2:  it's gonna do more to slow you down. Right? And so she said that time did not it didn't turn out well either because
8:38  Speaker 2:  it slowed What are talking about?
8:41  Speaker 2:  Remember the guy who came in with his girlfriend
8:44  Speaker 2:  and he did he taught people how to build credit, build business credit. Right? That
8:50  Speaker 2:  that girl, his girlfriend. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So So she took it and said, yeah. You may not wanna take it. So it basically slowed her down a little too much for her athletic competition. I think that But that's we're talking if you're doing high level athletic competition and women are sitting And I think she told told us she took quite a bit.
9:05  Speaker 2:  It's a little too much. I don't know, bro. It I think that 1 depends on how if you have, like, crazy anxiety and it's affecting you during the day, then take it during the day. Right? Absolutely. If you wanted to just relax at night and help, like, you know, maybe go to sleep better, get your brain in tune for that, then take it in at night.
9:24  Speaker 2:  I would also take DSIP. Right? That that that too can be taken during the day because it just
9:30  Speaker 2:  several neurotransmitters,
9:31  Speaker 2:  it just calms down. So put your brain in that mode to be able to sleep. Yep. It doesn't just knock you out and make you drool all over yourself. Makes sleepy. Yeah.
9:39  Speaker 2:  But but that is, you know,
9:42  Speaker 2:  I don't know. It depends depends on who you are and, what you're using it for. Also, these are good in combination.
9:49  Speaker 2:  Right? It may you would think
9:52  Speaker 2:  Semax is a is a upper. Selank is pulling you down. So they're just gonna cancel each other out, but that's not actually the case. Yeah. They really complement each other when taken together. True. So good
10:03  Speaker 2:  for you. Go get it and try that.
10:06  Speaker 1:  Think the cool thing about like the Semax, the Selank where we were talking about the Russians have been studying it forever and using it. They have used it as antidepressants
10:15  Speaker 1:  for a long time, which that's awesome. Yeah. Instead of like our A really interesting. Yeah.
10:21  Speaker 1:  That's rad. Mhmm. I think that's always found that very interesting
10:24  Speaker 2:  instead of blasting kids with antidepressants. Well, for sure. I mean, kids too. Like, you get I mean, the suicide rates with on antidepressants on with kids, like They're always on antidepressants. They they Yeah.
10:35  Speaker 2:  But the the suicide rates are crazy. Like,
10:39  Speaker 2:  putting somebody on Zoloft, etcetera. Yeah. Not good for for adolescents.
10:44  Speaker 1:  Yep. Oh, man. I remember we luckily had to deal with any of that stuff, but man,
10:49  Speaker 1:  you know, a lot of people do. Mhmm. Alright. Number 2, thanks for everything you do, team. I love it. I really appreciate how authentic you are and how you don't hide who you are. Awesome. Thanks,
10:59  Speaker 1:  Seeing how important family and faith are to you both is a big part of why I'm on the health journey myself. How rad is that? A bit about me. I'm 38, six'four,
11:10  Speaker 1:  currently 300 pounds down from 3 45.
11:14  Speaker 1:  Ovation.
11:15  Speaker 1:  Good job. I used to compete in powerlifting,
11:19  Speaker 1:  but had to stop after a serious back injury during
11:22  Speaker 1:  contest prep. Bet about
11:24  Speaker 1:  6 months ago, I got my hormones optimized. My total T went from 110
11:30  Speaker 1:  to over 1100.
11:33  Speaker 1:  Good for you, man. You probably feel like a new person. My labs are finally looking great. I feel like a different person. My goal is to get 15% body fat. A recent DEXA scan showed I have
11:47  Speaker 1:  2 30 pounds of lean mass. I'm training
11:51  Speaker 1:  4 days a week and consistently hitting 25 grams of protein daily,
11:58  Speaker 1:  which is going really well. Current protocol,
12:00  Speaker 1:  200
12:02  Speaker 1:  of testosterone cypinate pinned every other day,
12:06  Speaker 1:  plus 5 mg of Retatrutide
12:09  Speaker 1:  weekly.
12:10  Speaker 1:  The past, I did not care about being lean, only strong.
12:15  Speaker 1:  I'm new to this type of fitness. I love to keep adding muscle while dropping another 50 pounds of fat. If budget weren't a concern,
12:24  Speaker 1:  what compound stack
12:26  Speaker 1:  and or specific lifts or training approach
12:30  Speaker 1:  would you recommend to maximize recomp in my situation? Total hope to any execution. Thanks. What a great question. Yeah. Power lifters, man, those dudes ate a lot and lift a lot. That is a very unique way of training. So for you to switch, that's gotta be tough. That's gotta be tough. Tucking our ways because they like to be big and lift heavy shit. Yeah. Yeah. So you wanna take that 1 1st? You want me to run?
12:54  Speaker 2:  Sure. I will.
12:56  Speaker 2:  Okay. Right on. Good for you. Yeah. That's gonna be hard to I mean, shit. You got it, dude. At least at least you have the work ethic built in. Like, I mean, that's really the hard part.
13:05  Speaker 2:  So you wanna keep getting lean. 1st of all, you did you said that you're eating 250
13:10  Speaker 2:  grams. I think you said 25 grams. So 250,
13:14  Speaker 2:  cool. As long as your protein is good protein sources, right, and it's not just kind of crap 250
13:21  Speaker 2:  grams, like just drinking protein powder for all of those 250 grams. You know, we need real food
13:26  Speaker 2:  and rich protein sources. So you wanna keep getting lean. I say you take 5 mg
13:34  Speaker 2:  of Retta a week. That's great. I don't think you need any more. Hey,
13:37  Speaker 2:  it sounds like you're taking it once a week. If you want,
13:40  Speaker 2:  try it 3 times a week. Some people like it, some people don't. Yep. But if you notice you're a big dude, my guess is that starts you're if taking it once a week, it probably, like, stops working around Thursday. If
13:51  Speaker 2:  that's the case, then split that 5 mix
13:53  Speaker 2:  3 times, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I would add I mean, frankly, like,
13:58  Speaker 2:  I mean, it's kind of the same old thing. Like, you it's time to add some peptide fibers. Right?
14:03  Speaker 2:  Sloop to help nutrient partitioning and endurance.
14:07  Speaker 2:  Yeah. Especially nutrient partitioning, I would take
14:10  Speaker 2:  AOD,
14:12  Speaker 2:  to burn fat. Guess the biggest thing, but the 1st thing is you wanna lose fat, not muscle. So I would get on growth.
14:19  Speaker 2:  Either HGH, low dose, like 2 I use a day, or the secretagog, Tesamorelin,
14:24  Speaker 2:  and Ipamorelin blend. Yeah. For you, that'd be the best 1 because it's really trying to the Tesamorelin's gonna help burn body fat. And then SLU-3A
14:32  Speaker 2:  OD
14:33  Speaker 2:  to help shuttle that fat into the mitochondria.
14:38  Speaker 2:  5 amino 1 MQ. That's what I meant was shuttling the the fat in the mitochondria. It's 5 5 amino.
14:44  Speaker 2:  So SLU-5Amino
14:45  Speaker 2:  AOD on top of the Retta. Keep doing your test and maybe some secretagog.
14:50  Speaker 2:  So, yeah, if money isn't an issue, that's what I would do.
14:55  Speaker 2:  As far as the lifts, dude, I do think you need to
14:58  Speaker 2:  still lift heavy, do compound lifts that you're used to,
15:02  Speaker 2:  but with very little break in between. So we're not going for, like, to set records in the gym, but,
15:07  Speaker 2:  like, we we want to preserve all of your muscle. Right? I don't want you just to do a bunch of cardio. Okay? Lifting like heavy, like 4 to 8 reps,
15:17  Speaker 2:  but very little break in between. So as a power lifter, you're going 4 to 8 reps, maybe less, taking a 5 minute break. Let all the muscle come back and all the oxygen and everything come back in you. Then we can go lift as heavy as possible. Right? This time, push them hard, but wait 30 seconds. Do it again. In the absence of oxygen,
15:36  Speaker 2:  calories are burnt.
15:40  Speaker 1:  Dude, I A little bit of a Mike Mike Mitscher type type approach. You don't do as short as him, but Yeah. But I've always I've always thought about trying that, dude. But it's like, dude, I like to lift weights. 1 way to go for, like you'd, like, lift every 4 days. That's boring. Yeah. Yeah. No. Not that. Not that. I'm just saying, like, breast rest. So lift heavy? No. I know what you mean. But low breath. Yeah. Low rest in between. Yeah. Yeah. So you're just Still heavy. Ass off. But Yeah. You do. When you lift heavy, you sweat. When you don't lift heavy, you don't really sweat. You know what I'm Yeah. It's true. So I don't know. That it seems like
16:10  Speaker 2:  you can add in any 1 of those. I think that I don't know. AOD
16:15  Speaker 2:  is probably the 1st 1 I would add in, but I would definitely add in some growth to keep preserved muscle
16:21  Speaker 2:  as you burn a bunch of fat.
16:23  Speaker 1:  Yep. Okay. 230
16:25  Speaker 2:  of lean muscles a ton. You should be able to burn fat pretty, pretty easily. And you've shown that already. Yeah. So he went from 3 45 down to 300. Did he say what he
16:35  Speaker 2:  wants to get down to? He said he wants to lose 50 more pounds of Okay. Body
16:39  Speaker 1:  So, yeah,
16:41  Speaker 1:  Will said kind of some of the similar things that I'm gonna say, but I think that we sometimes share the same brain because we love all this stuff and fat burners are fat burners. I mean, AOD, in my opinion, is just, man, it is right under a, Reta. They run perfectly together.
16:56  Speaker 1:  So
16:57  Speaker 1:  we'll set it, but let me just kind of piggyback.
17:00  Speaker 1:  Obviously, the Reta 5 megs is good. I don't think that you need to increase, like you said, maybe stretch it out, like you said, AOD in the morning,
17:07  Speaker 1:  HGH in the morning, 2 I use for sure. Gosh, I hate to kinda keep using your sub 5 minutes. Here's where I'll change though.
17:15  Speaker 1:  I will change, in midday NAD,
17:18  Speaker 1:  I would say around 02:00,
17:20  Speaker 1:  give you a little energy boost.
17:22  Speaker 1:  And at nighttime,
17:24  Speaker 1:  I will say GHKCU
17:26  Speaker 1:  or what you could do is the glow
17:29  Speaker 1:  and throw in the, you know, the TB-five
17:32  Speaker 1:  100 and the BPC, because I know you're gonna be achy.
17:36  Speaker 1:  That's just the way it is because you're getting 38 and you've lifted heavy.
17:40  Speaker 1:  And Tesamorelin,
17:41  Speaker 1:  Ipamorelin blend.
17:43  Speaker 1:  So I think you should add that in as secretagoggin night. Will and I've
17:47  Speaker 1:  dug into it more and more, and we continue to learn and evolve and change and opinions like viewpoints changed a little bit. You know, there's, we've talked about the HGH in the morning. Will it follow all the way through until nighttime? Will a secretagogue do maximize
18:01  Speaker 1:  a secretagogue?
18:02  Speaker 1:  Probably not,
18:04  Speaker 1:  but it will still help.
18:05  Speaker 1:  For you trying to burn fat, that Tesamorelin at night, I think is going to be great for you. Here's where I'll say a little bit different.
18:13  Speaker 1:  I think you should try a lot of different exercises and see what fits for you. And it's tricking the body.
18:20  Speaker 1:  I hit every muscle twice a week.
18:23  Speaker 1:  I have a main muscle, so I'll hit chest and then either a bicep or a tricep. I switch it up.
18:30  Speaker 1:  Obviously, shoulders and then traps,
18:33  Speaker 1:  back and triceps,
18:36  Speaker 1:  obviously legs and calves,
18:38  Speaker 1:  but I do a main muscle heavy,
18:40  Speaker 1:  and then I do a sub muscle a little bit lighter because that's not the main muscle. So that way I work out 6 days a week.
18:47  Speaker 1:  I probably could get a little bit more, I think if I did have 2 rest days, but I don't, I like to work out. So,
18:53  Speaker 1:  that's what I do and I get each muscle hit twice a week and that works well for me. I love it.
19:00  Speaker 1:  Sometimes I do 12 reps and I'll do more of that. And sometimes I'll go heavy. Today, dude, I felt good. I got some good sleep in the last couple of days and I sleep like shit usually. Man, I hit heavy today. It felt great. Man, I just felt so good. I hit in my back so heavy. And then my subgroup was my biceps,
19:16  Speaker 1:  so I did lighter, just slower on the biceps.
19:19  Speaker 1:  So maybe try that. And I'm going to throw this in, in regards to what's
19:24  Speaker 1:  your diet?
19:25  Speaker 1:  I'm going to definitely say you're 38 years old. I think you should try to piggyback a little bit off on some fasting.
19:32  Speaker 1:  You can be very simple and just
19:34  Speaker 1:  try to do Monday through Friday,
19:38  Speaker 1:  intermittent fasting,
19:39  Speaker 1:  eat from 12 to 08:00,
19:42  Speaker 1:  just 5 days a week, Saturday and Sunday,
19:44  Speaker 1:  eat numerous meals or whatever. Just try it. See if it fits. If you need to change the times and if you're a person who likes to eat 1st thing in the morning, 6 to 2,
19:53  Speaker 1:  I like to I can push it out, and I have found for me it works. I can push that sucker out as far as I once I have food, I just want more food. So figure out what's work works for you. But throw some fasting, man. You're getting 38, and at the very least,
20:04  Speaker 1:  you're going to burn a lot of fat. You're gonna be if you get that 16 hour mark, you're gonna get into autophagy, dead cells die off.
20:11  Speaker 1:  So try the fasting. I love it. And
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20:30  Speaker 1:  It's 1 of my favorite things. So try that. Especially because you are you were 345
20:34  Speaker 2:  pounds, and you were a power lifter. You were eating absolutely everything you could possibly see. Very different. So your liver internal organs, that did that does not make for a super healthy
20:43  Speaker 2:  liver, and, like, it was constantly being used. Eating. Right? Like, damn. Give it a break. Fasting. 1 of the biggest things is why, like, it's biblical as someone said earlier this morning.
20:53  Speaker 2:  Everybody in the ancient world knew, like, this is gonna be able to eat. Like, our finally, our liver gets to clean itself out. Right? So you've probably done some metabolic Digestion
21:03  Speaker 2:  takes a break. And so exactly. Digestion takes a break. Like, fuck. Finally, to get 345 pounds to keep all that muscle, you didn't give it much breaks. So
21:12  Speaker 2:  fasting 100%, I think, will do Google long long way. It's like you've been a power lifter and again,
21:18  Speaker 1:  you know, we get stuck in our ways as humans. Like, we lift a certain way. We get stuck in that way. I'm not even that good at, like, always switching it because this is how I like to lift. But our body does better when we trick it. Right? So for you, you're probably so used to lifting those heavy weights. So for you to switch and change is probably pretty difficult, right? But we grow when we do difficult shit. So I think this is gonna be great. Check back with us, man. I wanted to see how you do, man. So Yeah. 45
21:44  Speaker 2:  pounds. 45 pounds already. Valuation. Yeah. Make it 95.
21:49  Speaker 2:  Okay. Number 3. Hey, guys. I've recently discovered the podcast and love it. I'm a newbie to peptide to the peptide world and have been on Reta for almost 4 weeks and love it. All caps. I'm a woman, 28 years old. I'm 5 7. Started at 216,
22:04  Speaker 2:  and now I'm 2 12
22:06  Speaker 2:  with my goal being 1 65.
22:08  Speaker 2:  Okay. Wait. Yeah. Okay. 1 65. K. Sorry. I take 1 dose of 0.5
22:15  Speaker 2:  mg every 6 days with my recent dose of 0.75
22:19  Speaker 2:  mg.
22:20  Speaker 2:  I feel all the things of appetite suppression and staying fuller longer on this small dose. I have 2 questions. Should I stay here at 0.75
22:28  Speaker 2:  mgs, which is
22:30  Speaker 2:  if that's right, that's a super duper small dose. Yeah. I was trying to figure out if that's right. Once a week or because of the significant amount I am looking to lose, should I titrate up to 1 mg next week? 2nd question is, I'm curious about KPV,
22:46  Speaker 2:  Tessa IpA.
22:47  Speaker 2:  Would any of these be a good thing or add? Should I just stick with Reta since I just started? Thank you and really, really appreciate you too. Okay. So I guess the 1st thing, like,
22:56  Speaker 2:  I guess the general rule in the GLP is is
22:59  Speaker 2:  you wanna take the lowest effective dose. Sure. K? So we don't want to just
23:06  Speaker 2:  blow your tolerance out because you inevitably will build a tolerance. Okay? So you inevitably will need to slowly
23:12  Speaker 2:  tie trade up.
23:14  Speaker 2:  Essentially,
23:15  Speaker 2:  hey, you want you want it to work. Right? And so it sure sounds like as far as Retta goes to, like, you're getting the benefits.
23:22  Speaker 2:  Upping it now would potentially just increase side effects and not
23:26  Speaker 2:  do much more.
23:28  Speaker 2:  Although
23:29  Speaker 2:  if 0.75
23:30  Speaker 2:  of a milligram is your true is what you're taking, that's awfully low, right? Remember, like starting dose is 2.5
23:37  Speaker 2:  mg a week,
23:40  Speaker 2:  and you started at 0.65
23:43  Speaker 2:  mg. So or 0.5
23:45  Speaker 2:  every 6 days. So 0.5 mg. That's 0.5 a milligram. So
23:50  Speaker 2:  let's make sure I don't know which Retta you have, but imagine if you had
23:54  Speaker 2:  10 mg Retta, you added 1 mil of water. Okay.
23:58  Speaker 2:  Then 10 units 10 units would be a full milligram.
24:03  Speaker 2:  So are you taking 5
24:05  Speaker 2:  point are you taking 5 units
24:07  Speaker 2:  once a week? Is that where you started? Under the 1st little line? Right. That's a little bit. Nothing.
24:13  Speaker 2:  Which is 0.05 of a milligram. Yeah. I think that's what she's taking. But if that's what you're taking and it's working,
24:19  Speaker 2:  so there that's all I can say is there's the rules. Like, I still
24:23  Speaker 2:  if you told me that it wasn't working as good, I would say, yes, bump up.
24:27  Speaker 2:  I would also say, I don't know. Generally, here's the we generally I would say start. I tell people to do this, my friends,
24:36  Speaker 2:  to start at, like, 1 mill MIG Monday,
24:40  Speaker 2:  1 MIG Wednesday, 1 MIG Friday. Some of them need to go down from there to 0.5 a MIG, 0.5 MIG, 0.5 MIG. Some of them after a couple weeks, after this, you know, really start to feel it, then they need to slightly go up by 0.5 MIG increments. So
24:53  Speaker 2:  but everybody is different. So you just be you and you feel it out. That's all I can really say on that 1.
25:00  Speaker 2:  You do need to you wanna lose a significant amount of weight, which is great, and it and it will happen if you just keep working at it. So good job.
25:11  Speaker 2:  All the other stuff, KPV. Like, why do you wanna take Contessa Ipka KPV? I almost think if this Redeye is working really good, I I don't know. I don't really want people to muddy the waters too much. KPV is good for your gut. If you have gut problems, take KPV. Yep. By all means, do it. If you don't,
25:27  Speaker 2:  I don't I don't see the reason why. So KPV, my my girl has been deal dealing with
25:33  Speaker 2:  heartburn, like bad indigestion. She didn't know what it was. Right? She's always
25:38  Speaker 2:  like, do I have cancer? Like, no, you don't have cancer. If you do, go to think you do, then you let's go to a doctor. But
25:44  Speaker 2:  I was like, take these Tums. So Tums kinda help.
25:47  Speaker 2:  But basically, all that stuff, she has now taken KPV,
25:50  Speaker 2:  and it's all gone. Really?
25:53  Speaker 2:  Because,
26:46  Speaker 2:  Whenever you get trans on, I think that so my girl's taking an injection, and it has helped. So That's right. That's good. Yeah. I get heartburn all the time. I never really thought about it. That's great. That and and,
26:56  Speaker 2:  I mean, shoot, for autoimmune disorders, lot of them are occurring are starting really in the gut and also
27:04  Speaker 2:  allergic reactions.
27:07  Speaker 1:  Yeah. I don't think I I think KPV can be a fit for everybody because I just I'm under the opinion that pretty much all of us have gut issues because of the crap we eat. The seed oils are destroying our gut biome. I mean, just destroying our gut biome. Now KPV is not gonna radically fix it because it's just the food that because we continue to eat the shitty food, but like, it's great. KPV is great. I
27:31  Speaker 1:  go through cycles and I'm back using KPV
27:34  Speaker 1:  with my other peptides and I think it's great.
27:38  Speaker 1:  So yeah, I think that's awesome. I definitely might have a little bit of a different opinion on that is I'm gonna say that I would definitely go up on the Retta. I
27:47  Speaker 1:  think that you should obviously get away with less is more for sure, but you are on such a low dose.
27:53  Speaker 1:  I would say 0.5
27:55  Speaker 1:  megs
27:56  Speaker 1:  Monday, Wednesday, Friday. You have a lot of weight that you want to lose, and I think that's still such
28:02  Speaker 1:  a low dose.
28:03  Speaker 1:  So I would try that. I'm like, Will said, You can always go down. Try it a week, try it 2 weeks, and then you have to also
28:10  Speaker 1:  know that your body starts to acclimate and it knows this new
28:15  Speaker 1:  compound is in your body and it takes a little while for your body to catch up to all this stuff. So
28:21  Speaker 1:  that's what I would say. So 0.5 Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
28:25  Speaker 1:  In regards to the Tesa Ipamorelin,
28:28  Speaker 1:  I would throw in an AOD in the morning. I've said it so many times, I'm gonna say it again because just women just need a little bit of some of these things and they go so far. The AOD in the morning with your Retatrutide and the Tessa Ipi at night, those will do wonders for you.
28:43  Speaker 1:  And,
28:44  Speaker 1:  you know, I know it's a peptide podcast,
28:47  Speaker 1:  but we're always going to look at how are you eating? What type of food are you eating? How much are you eating? Are you not eating?
28:54  Speaker 1:  I did a post today because I felt like I needed it to the degree of just when,
28:59  Speaker 1:  you know, Will and I just, what we do and just the people that we come across,
29:03  Speaker 1:  were, he and I were talking about it. That's why I kind of put a reel together where I don't actually didn't think I posted it yet, but I filmed it. But Reta is not a
29:11  Speaker 1:  it's amazing.
29:13  Speaker 1:  It is amazing, amazing, amazing. It's a scientific breakthrough if you use it properly. Like, if you or somebody, I'm not saying you, if you, a person, like, takes Reta and changes their lifestyle in no way, and you're eating shitty food and just continue to sit on the couch and don't try to change your life and better your life and start exercising and eating better, the objective is to
29:33  Speaker 1:  better and get better habits.
29:36  Speaker 1:  And we do see that a lot where people don't try to improve those things. But if you use Retatrutide
29:43  Speaker 1:  in the proper form, meaning eat better, start to form better habits, exercise if you don't exercise and you start to it works 10 times better. There's so many people that just want a magic pill, so to speak, and they want to take Retrutide and not be hungry.
30:00  Speaker 1:  And why is it not working? It's not working because I'm
30:03  Speaker 1:  still hungry.
30:05  Speaker 1:  It is working. It is a damn scientific breakthrough. You're not supposed to not be hungry. Retrutide is the beauty of it is you are supposed to be hungry. God made you hungry for a reason. You're supposed to just eat less. That's what Retatrutide is amazing for. You're supposed to eat less. You know, Mike, I until I started taking Retatrut, I never left food on my plate. Now I would be like, you're gonna leave that? Like, it just makes you eat less, but you can enjoy fruit food. Like, if you started back at Semaglutide,
30:33  Speaker 1:  you didn't eat. But you don't know how to not eat. You want to eat, you just want to change your habit. So kind of went on a tangent, but we do get a lot of that stuff. I hope that people
30:43  Speaker 1:  don't use Retrutide as like a crutch and they just want to like eat like shit and then that's it. Because it's not gonna you're not even tapping the power of it. Like, change your habits. Went a little bit too. But you know what I mean? Right. Absolutely. But here's the beauty for it, Red. It's actually really hard to eat like crap and eat a lot while on it. Right? Because it literally like changes your food preferences
31:03  Speaker 2:  and, like, forces you to eat small frequent meals. So
31:08  Speaker 2:  but still But if you wanna have a tendency, you're gonna pay the money. Absolutely. Work it properly. Yeah. For sure. You know what I mean? Sure. Alright. Am I up? Yeah.
31:16  Speaker 2:  Sure.
31:18  Speaker 1:  Alright. Had a great question for you guys. I wanna see if you can give me your opinion on the situation.
31:24  Speaker 1:  I would like to start my mother on better chew tied to help her get healthy and lose some weight
31:31  Speaker 1:  and more than anything, help her change her lifestyle. Boom. She is 59 years old and she is overweight, dealing with a
31:40  Speaker 1:  little high blood pressure. And 1 of our problems,
31:43  Speaker 1:  and 1 of the problems that we deal with
31:47  Speaker 1:  is thyroid problems. Her doctors are telling her not to use it because it can cause her cancer because
31:54  Speaker 1:  of the thyroid problems.
31:56  Speaker 1:  Really looking forward to you guys' opinion on the situation.
31:59  Speaker 1:  I think it would help her a lot on the Reta.
32:02  Speaker 1:  Thanks again. It's a great question. Okay. Yes. I
32:06  Speaker 2:  have a little bit of an answer for you. So these GLPs come with like a boxed warning that says it can
32:13  Speaker 2:  in rodent studies,
32:15  Speaker 2:  there has been a slight
32:17  Speaker 2:  risk of like medullary thyroid cancer.
32:20  Speaker 2:  Okay?
32:21  Speaker 2:  There's been no evidence that ever says that it's the same in humans. Right? Also,
32:26  Speaker 2:  there is no evidence that
32:29  Speaker 2:  having, like, a having
32:31  Speaker 2:  hyperthyroid
32:32  Speaker 2:  or hypothyroidism
32:34  Speaker 2:  is any contraindication.
32:35  Speaker 2:  So the question really is,
32:38  Speaker 2:  does she here's the question I would ask is, does she actually have a history of that cancer
32:43  Speaker 2:  of, like, MEDN2 cancer,
32:46  Speaker 2:  MEDN2 cancer?
32:48  Speaker 1:  Probably not. Probably not.
32:50  Speaker 2:  Chances are
32:51  Speaker 2:  now again, I'm not getting advice, but like, here's the deal. If it was my mother, I would say, hey, how's her quality of life right now? She's old. Yeah. No, no. She's getting old. She's old. She's getting older.
33:02  Speaker 2:  Many questions this doctor's asked her? I would be curious. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. I would ask Ret. I would go deep I would have the doctor well, if I was a doctor, I would ask deeper into this. Right? Because they don't. That's what I'm saying. They probably don't. There's play the slight box warning that says rodent studies that might do this, but, like,
33:18  Speaker 2:  I don't think it's gonna really cause cause that cancer. Now What's the risk to the reward here? Right. And that's other thing. It's like my mother,
33:25  Speaker 2:  like, how is her quality of life right now? Is she just struggling right now? Is life very fun? Great. How much what if we give this to her and her life gets a whole bunch better and in 15
33:35  Speaker 2:  years she maybe develops cancer? Is she about to die anyway of natural causes anyway? Right. And great. She's looking great. 15 more years. Right. I don't know. Personally, looks like my dad had given him testosterone. He's like, oh, well, look at all these risks. I'm like, dude, what do you got to lose? Seriously. Right? You ain't doing much right now. You know? Shit.
33:52  Speaker 2:  Like, people trip over a pebble when there's a mountain of benefit behind it. It's like, well, what about the pebble? Mhmm. You know what I mean? Yeah. So It is so funny. Don't know, dude. I I think that that I would absolutely say, hey. Is there a Yeah. Does she have it? Is there a family history?
34:07  Speaker 2:  Then there's the like, the cardiovascular benefits of of of this are huge, especially for an automated And
34:15  Speaker 2:  although it does say that I know we know this in Retta, like, it's been something that's held it back from from being approved
34:22  Speaker 2:  is that there is this risk that it can kinda increase heart rate. Right? But the
34:28  Speaker 2:  benefit of that for somebody who's an overweight individual
34:31  Speaker 1:  Huge. It's huge. Huge. So
34:35  Speaker 1:  Did you know said that would weight? Ultimately,
34:37  Speaker 2:  this is you question. Right? But frankly
34:41  Speaker 1:  If it was me, I would I'd give it to her and make her have a great life have a happier life right now. 59, she's overweight. You don't say the weight. So it would be like, oh, should we kind of knew that? Like how much weight?
34:53  Speaker 1:  We know that it's going to work. She's going to lose
34:57  Speaker 1:  weight and that can't be a bad thing. Yeah. Right. So what again, what is the risk to the reward? We'll answer it as if it's our mother because we're not doctors, but I don't even think your doctor knows. So I wouldn't even talk to that doctor.
35:08  Speaker 1:  I bet that doctor didn't ask. Like, I say this a lot, but like, let's slow
35:12  Speaker 1:  down and be logical for a 2nd because people are always like risks and this and cancer and all this stuff. Well, how about your Doritos?
35:19  Speaker 1:  Like, why don't you worry about the food you're eating because that's just shit food and that's causing so much cancer? So does this doctor tell her to stop eating shit food? I sure hope he did if he's gonna tell her not to take Retrutide because Retrutide is gonna bring the weight down, and that can't be a bad thing. Like, it can't. Like, nothing's perfect.
35:38  Speaker 1:  I would look at it if it was my mom. What's the risk to reward? The mountain of reward behind it is so worth the pebble of risk that he's talking about. And again, I hope that doctor was talking about her diet because if that doctor wasn't and he's talking about the Retrutide,
35:54  Speaker 1:  find a different doctor. Like, if these doctors aren't talking about diet and different things and stuff,
35:59  Speaker 1:  you know what mean? Mhmm. They gotta know that stuff. They don't get they don't get trained on on
36:04  Speaker 1:  diet, though.
36:05  Speaker 2:  Terribly in diet. They don't even know. Like, it's like people like doctors have told people, well, you know, you might get protein poisoning because you're eating a 100 grams of protein a day. Dude.
36:15  Speaker 1:  What? I always say, look at your doctor. Is he in shape? He's like, why would you if he's not in shape, why would you listen to him? Like, why don't you do it, doc? You know what I mean? Like, you're gonna do as I say, not as I do? You know I I watched something on social media, which I rarely do, and they're like and it was somebody saying, like, here are showing pictures of, like, the head of the FDA or somebody who is the head of all of our right? And he's, like, morbidly obese. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like the health director of whatever. He's, like, saying how they're, Yeah. I will I'll leave my comments out of but it's like, it's silly. Yeah. Oh, did you listen to a guy like that? Yeah. Why don't you do it, doc? Why don't you do it? Right.
36:55  Speaker 2:  Next.
36:56  Speaker 2:  And love the podcast. I'm 43 year old male, 6 6 foot 2 65.
37:02  Speaker 2:  I'm on week 3 Retta switched from weekly injections
37:06  Speaker 2:  to Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
37:08  Speaker 2:  1.5 Migs per. What else should I be taking with it? Pesa,
37:12  Speaker 2:  MOTS-1C, Wolverine, or Glow? I've heard all mentioned to pair with Reta. Appreciate your insights or the
37:20  Speaker 2:  insights.
37:21  Speaker 2:  Well, cool. I guess I'm interested to see tell us what you think the difference in effect was when from switching from once a week to Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Yeah. Alright?
37:32  Speaker 2:  But also, hey, what should you pair with it? Damn. What's your goals? I guess you're saying if you're taking Retta, I guess
37:39  Speaker 2:  I have to assume that the goal is to lose weight. So
37:42  Speaker 2:  Tesamorelin,
37:43  Speaker 2:  absolutely, dude. I think Tesa Ipah blend, 100%. That'll help you burn fat in your stomach. It will help you speed up your metabolism.
37:52  Speaker 2:  And it will help keep muscle on you while you are losing weight. Alright? That's kind of 1 of the biggest benefits there. Wolverine
37:59  Speaker 2:  or Glow, like, dude, that stuff so Wolverine or Glow. Glow is basically just Wolverine, which is BPC TV,
38:06  Speaker 2:  adding GHK-
38:09  Speaker 2:  These are well, do you ever use that for healing? I'm curious. You ever use healing? Yeah.
38:14  Speaker 1:  Do you ever use it for healing or do you use just simple
38:17  Speaker 2:  I'll just use the Wolverine for healing. I was curious about that. Was gonna ask you. But I'm getting more and more. I'm hearing about more and more people using GHKCU
38:24  Speaker 2:  and Glow for, like, acne.
38:27  Speaker 2:  In fact, we were just talking to somebody about it and saying, like, just started using that and this and GHKCU
38:33  Speaker 2:  SNAP-8 serum.
38:34  Speaker 2:  They've had, like, 1 tiny pimple in 1 month, and that's it. Yeah. And they're used to more. This
38:41  Speaker 2:  dude that we talked to this morning, right, like, was talking about taking it for skin, for his skin being clearer. And so and I don't know. I'm just getting more and more people. My girl takes GHK-
38:52  Speaker 2:  for her skin. She loves it. A bit GHK-
38:55  Speaker 2:  is there to to
38:57  Speaker 2:  also somebody is taking it, and it's working for psoriasis,
39:02  Speaker 2:  which makes sense. Right? It's bringing more collagen to your skin. Sure. K? For sure. BPC and TB also because those help. Yeah. Right? With angiogenesis,
39:09  Speaker 2:  bringing more blood to your skin is gonna just heal things better. Mhmm. But I don't for healing? Nah. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure
39:17  Speaker 1:  it should help, like, wound skin healing. Yeah. Cuts. It should heal help a cut, but not so much deeper than that. That's why I was asking because, I mean, in regards to the GHKC with the Wolverine, which is the low,
39:30  Speaker 1:  It just I just was curious because it seems like a lot of people are taking it. Yeah. And I'm just curious.
39:35  Speaker 2:  I feel like here's here's why I would take it is I
39:38  Speaker 2:  wanna take the Wolverine just because, dude, even just putting injector in my stomach, saving me money. I feel so much better. 100%.
39:45  Speaker 2:  I want that. Mhmm. Also, what the hell? I'll take looking better and my skin Yeah. Looking better and and, you know, in healing better.
39:53  Speaker 2:  So then sure.
39:54  Speaker 2:  I'll take Glow. And hell, while we're at it, I want my gut to feel better because everybody's gut is effed up. And if your gut is healthier and stronger, you're healthier and stronger, so might as well just take Clow.
40:06  Speaker 2:  Right. Right. It's gonna be a better deal, and,
40:09  Speaker 1:  you're getting all of them. What do you want? All of them. All of them. Yeah. Shit. That's usually my answer. Into me. Will Will is morphing into me. How many are taking now? Yeah. Like, 15. I have a thing tattooed on me. It says, you sure I'll take 1. Yeah. Or I'll take another. Yeah. How many do want? All of them. That's been, yeah. It's been my motto to in in my past life to a bad had turned bad. Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes,
40:33  Speaker 0:  0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes.
40:45  Speaker 2:  You're on me? But I think it's good nowadays.
40:48  Speaker 2:  Alright.
40:49  Speaker 1:  So, yeah, dude, I don't know for your answer. Hard to answer that with a we don't know the objectives. Great
40:55  Speaker 2:  for it's to help boost metabolism,
40:57  Speaker 2:  boosting your mitochondrial output.
40:59  Speaker 2:  But I would more if we're looking for straight weight loss, I mean, I'm still pointing to AOD, 5 minute 1 and q test
41:06  Speaker 2:  SLU-p.
41:07  Speaker 1:  Yeah.
41:08  Speaker 1:  I'm gonna say, you know, obviously we all want to burn fat. Right? You're on Retatrutide, so you're trying to lose weight. That's probably the most
41:15  Speaker 1:  obvious here. I'm trying to tone up a bit at the very least. Right? So
41:20  Speaker 1:  again, it always boils down to objectives because,
41:24  Speaker 1:  you know, that's the basic question, but it's a very important question.
41:28  Speaker 1:  I think, again, if we just slow down and just think logically of what are you trying to accomplish, if it's like for me right now, I'm trying to like do more nootropics type deal, and I'm usually focusing on
41:40  Speaker 1:  fat burners and things like that, but that's my objective. So my objectives have changed, so the peptides have changed. Right? So if you're talking
41:47  Speaker 1:  mitochondria
41:48  Speaker 1:  health, our 2 favorites, Will and I talk about all the time are MOTS-three
41:52  Speaker 1:  going to be SS-thirty 1,
41:54  Speaker 1:  like anti aging,
41:56  Speaker 1:  know, would be good. And I use NAD plus during
42:00  Speaker 1:  the day around 2.
42:02  Speaker 1:  Good for skin, hair, nails, anti aging. I do think it gives me energy,
42:07  Speaker 1:  whether that works or not. I think that it does.
42:09  Speaker 1:  So you could do that. And then at night, you know, for you being 43,
42:14  Speaker 1:  hopefully you're on testosterone replacement or at least go get your blood work done to see where your tests are at.
42:20  Speaker 1:  And then we're
42:21  Speaker 1:  big fans of HGH.
42:23  Speaker 1:  We're not gonna lie. We're very blunt about it. We think that it's amazing in low doses. We don't think there's a high risk because we talk about it often.
42:32  Speaker 1:  So HGH,
42:33  Speaker 1:  think for anybody over 40 is a really good play. It's a long play,
42:37  Speaker 1:  worth the play. It's right alongside TRT
42:40  Speaker 1:  for me. So that would do a lot for you.
42:45  Speaker 1:  Tesamorelin,
42:46  Speaker 1:  like he said at night.
42:48  Speaker 1:  So again, it's really depending on what you're looking to accomplish because that question is so important. If it's
42:56  Speaker 1:  brain function,
42:57  Speaker 1:  if it's
42:58  Speaker 1:  fat burning, because we could put you on a fat burning stat that will burn the hell out of your fat if you just do SLU-5Amino,
43:06  Speaker 1:  L- carnitine, and we could stack the hell out of it if you really wanted. Or if you wanna really focus in on the mitochondria, we could stack the hell out of it. So again, I'm saying that because it's a super vague question, so we could dig in deeper if we knew a little bit more on what is my objective?
43:20  Speaker 2:  Yes.
43:22  Speaker 2:  Okay. I want to add something. We all get caught up in these questions about the peptides. Okay?
43:27  Speaker 2:  There is no replacing
43:29  Speaker 2:  like effort and diet
43:31  Speaker 2:  and exercise.
43:33  Speaker 2:  All right. So let's just I know we get caught up in like, all right, just answering some of the peptide questions, but like, damn.
43:39  Speaker 2:  These peptides are here to amplify
43:41  Speaker 2:  all of the effort.
43:43  Speaker 2:  The effort,
43:44  Speaker 2:  what I mean is nutrition and,
43:47  Speaker 2:  lifting weights and exercise. Better humans. Right? And better humans and Changing your lifestyle.
43:52  Speaker 2:  Yes.
43:53  Speaker 2:  It is not gonna replace the effort. It's there to amplify all of that effort that you do. I think that we
44:00  Speaker 1:  don't talk about it enough to the degree where like, that's our lifestyle that we, we will always lift weights. We'll always work out and we will always be
44:09  Speaker 1:  cognizant
44:09  Speaker 2:  of foods we eat and whatnot. So like we love peptides, but that's weird. We know a lot about this stuff because we've it's been our life forever. That's ground 0. And in fact, on top of just in what in, like, lifestyle, you mean, it's like, there's a difference between, hey. Okay. Fine. I'll go to the gym. Right? I'll go to the gym and work out for for 40 minutes, 3 days a week. Okay? Like, that seems good to some people, but, like so 40 minutes, 45 minutes, let's say 3 days a week, you know, doesn't you know, you have a week. It's 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. Okay? Right. 3 times 45, if somebody else could do the math better than me, but is
44:44  Speaker 2:  an hour, 2 hours and 25 minutes maybe
44:48  Speaker 2:  out of
44:49  Speaker 2:  the whole week, that ain't much. Right. So lifestyle
44:53  Speaker 2:  if you haven't worked up done anything, that's a lot. But what I but lifestyle is like, yo, guess what we do on the weekends?
44:59  Speaker 2:  Go hiking, go to the beach, go swimming, go surfing. Right? Like, that's lifestyle needs to just change. It needs to be
45:06  Speaker 2:  everything.
45:07  Speaker 2:  Yeah. Your whole thing. If you got a dog, great. Take a walk for 2 hours a day. I mean, that's 1 way I stayed lean for a long time. Was like, I just ran my damn dog for 2 hours a day if you have time. But,
45:17  Speaker 2:  yeah, the whole lifestyle in general needs to change to be active. True that. This is why even caffeine is 1 of the best supplements. This is why a lot of these GNC fat burners work. Right? And what caffeine. What does caffeine do? Well, it restricts your appetite,
45:31  Speaker 2:  speeds up your heart rate, so you're gonna be burning a little bit just more fat doing anything. It makes you not as lazy, so you ain't gonna sit on the couch as much. You're gonna get up and just walk around and do laundry and do other shit. You know? And
45:42  Speaker 2:  and it's and it's it'll it'll heat you up a bit, which burns more calories just from doing that.
45:47  Speaker 2:  True that. So do lifestyle change. Yes. Yeah. Alright. You're up. Are you? I hope
45:54  Speaker 1:  you guys are good. Biggest fans of you guys. I watch you guys daily in your YouTube channel.
46:00  Speaker 1:  I've learned a lot, but okay. I don't want to waste no time. Quick review on where I'm at. This is my 7th week on Retatrutide
46:08  Speaker 1:  and AOD.
46:09  Speaker 1:  Started January
46:11  Speaker 1:  5
46:12  Speaker 1:  at 3 0 5, and right now I'm weighing 2 68.
46:17  Speaker 1:  Anglevation,
46:18  Speaker 1:  been fasting.
46:19  Speaker 1:  Here we go. Every day for 24 hours, you watch you watch our channels there, buddy. 1
46:25  Speaker 1:  big meal a day, high protein, high fat,
46:29  Speaker 1:  working out 3 to 4 days a week, been on 3 Migs of Retatrutide,
46:33  Speaker 1:  split,
46:34  Speaker 1:  split Monday, Wednesday, and Friday,
46:37  Speaker 1:  and 1000
46:38  Speaker 1:  micrograms.
46:39  Speaker 1:  So it's a Mig of AOD every day split.
46:43  Speaker 1:  Awesome. I love it. I'm going to run this for 16 weeks, but on my last 8 weeks, I'm going to add 5Meeta
46:51  Speaker 1:  1MQ to the cycle.
46:53  Speaker 1:  My question is,
46:55  Speaker 1:  as soon as I'm done with this plan is to start running Tesamorelin,
46:59  Speaker 1:  MOTS- C, NAD, and GHK- CU. I'm going to rest
47:04  Speaker 1:  off Reta for 4 weeks and then add it up again to the cycle. I want to hear your opinion on this and what you guys think. My goal is to keep losing weight at
47:14  Speaker 1:  fat percent and keep getting healthier.
47:17  Speaker 1:  Haven't felt this great in years. That is awesome.
47:20  Speaker 1:  Haven't overweight for a couple of years. By the way, I'm 35 years old. Thank you, guys. Please don't stop uploading content. It is really helpful and informative all the way from
47:29  Speaker 1:  Roma
47:30  Speaker 1:  Texas brothers. How cool, dude. See, that's what I'm saying. Like, stuff like that, man. You guys don't even know. It really does
47:36  Speaker 1:  mean a lot to us, so we're appreciative of that. You want me to take that? Go ahead.
47:41  Speaker 1:  So
47:42  Speaker 1:  yeah, you're watching.
47:44  Speaker 1:  You're definitely watching. You've been obviously looking how I eat.
47:49  Speaker 1:  Yeah, I do a lot of the fasting. You're doing that. Let me see. So you're at 3 $0.05, you're down to three-two 68.
47:56  Speaker 1:  Should you switch it up? I mean, everything kind of boils down to Pocketbook,
48:01  Speaker 1:  you know?
48:02  Speaker 1:  Pocketbook obviously plays a role for all of us. I mean, you could add the 5Amino-1MQ
48:07  Speaker 1:  and now and kind of continue on on the fat burner or like SLU-PP-three
48:12  Speaker 1:  32.
48:13  Speaker 1:  I say it all the time. I'm pretty damn lean and I love fat burners. I just love them. I try to be as lean as I can. So I take a lot of them. I'm
48:21  Speaker 1:  titrated down off of them recently,
48:24  Speaker 1:  but that's not that common for me to do that. So anyways, yeah, you can add in the 5 0 5 minute 1MQ now if you wanna wait. That's fine too. Should you change it to the Tesamotc
48:34  Speaker 1:  NAD and GHK- CU?
48:38  Speaker 1:  Yeah, where did he say his age?
48:40  Speaker 2:  I
48:41  Speaker 2:  don't know.
48:43  Speaker 2:  Don't know if It's
48:44  Speaker 1:  gonna say contingent of 35 years old.
48:47  Speaker 1:  35 is a little bit young. In regards to the HGH, I'm always a let's write about the mark where
48:53  Speaker 1:  I would say generally like 38 is a no brainer.
48:57  Speaker 1:  100%
48:59  Speaker 1:  go on that HGH.
49:01  Speaker 1:  You don't mention
49:02  Speaker 1:  testosterone
49:03  Speaker 1:  replacement,
49:04  Speaker 1:  but 35
49:06  Speaker 1:  year olds,
49:07  Speaker 1:  have seen very low on testosterone.
49:10  Speaker 1:  So if you have not had your blood work done, I would definitely recommend you go get it and start there.
49:16  Speaker 1:  If you're not on testosterone replacement and you are
49:21  Speaker 1:  on this journey, you're going to expedite the process
49:24  Speaker 1:  and your benefits heavily.
49:26  Speaker 1:  So that's, I'm going to say that we say that often, but it is so true hormone replacement and getting your hormones in line is
49:33  Speaker 1:  vital. It's up there with your diet and exercise that Will and I just talked about. So,
49:39  Speaker 1:  but yeah, I think that your
49:41  Speaker 1:  plan of attack is fairly good. Again, I would still keep some fat burners in there. I mean, do you need to come off Retatrutide?
49:47  Speaker 1:  Not really. We've run some different things where
49:51  Speaker 1:  a lot of things that we've read said it probably shouldn't,
49:55  Speaker 1:  but, you know, there's some stuff that contradict that. So it's kind of a matter of, like, just trying it. If you feel like you want to get off it for a month,
50:02  Speaker 1:  whatever.
50:03  Speaker 1:  I stay on a low dose of it no matter what, and I'm pretty lean.
50:06  Speaker 1:  But I like it. I like it. Get your hormones checked. I like to know where you're at. You seem like a cool dude. You follow us obviously, so
50:12  Speaker 1:  shoot us a DM. I'm curious to see where your numbers are at. And if your numbers are low, fix them. Mhmm. You gotta fix them. The only thing I really have to well, 2nd.
50:21  Speaker 2:  Yeah. But there's no real don't I don't know if you really need to or want to get off Retta.
50:26  Speaker 2:  Okay. I don't I don't think like the stopping that and cycling that 1 is the down. Is a may is an important thing. You're
50:35  Speaker 2:  I mean, you could titrate down.
50:37  Speaker 1:  But
50:38  Speaker 2:  And then go back up when you're ready. I think cycling the others is great, dude. Go back to you know? Yeah. You can cycle down.
50:44  Speaker 2:  Notice
50:45  Speaker 2:  because the goal is to dig as little as possible. So I I would try to cycle down instead of completely come off. And I wouldn't just abruptly come off either.
50:54  Speaker 2:  If you're going to come off,
50:56  Speaker 2:  wean off.
50:58  Speaker 2:  But I have nothing really to add on that 1. Beautiful.
51:02  Speaker 2:  Okay. Hey, guys. Love your show and straightforward no BS way of sharing research. Your own experiences and your opinions on peptide use, efficacy,
51:10  Speaker 2:  and safety. Lately, I've been reading a lot about the idea that peptides are not the actual peptides.
51:15  Speaker 2:  We know most have been used safely for years,
51:18  Speaker 2:  but that the peptide explosion and subsequent gray market expansion is lending itself to some not so great manufacturing and corner cutting, which produces peptides containing
51:27  Speaker 2:  bacteria, heavy metals, endotoxins,
51:30  Speaker 2:  etcetera. If this is true, how do we keep ourselves safe
51:33  Speaker 2:  and know that we are choosing the safest product to inject?
51:36  Speaker 2:  Is it just the manufacturing process that creates a contamination,
51:40  Speaker 2:  or are some products bought in bulk
51:42  Speaker 2:  and bottled in a different location, which could add another opportunity
51:47  Speaker 2:  for contamination?
51:48  Speaker 2:  I know you test for purity, but do you okay.
51:52  Speaker 2:  Have you ever tested for cleanliness of peptides
51:56  Speaker 2:  or as well, or is this an exaggerated
51:59  Speaker 2:  concern? Thank you in advance, James.
52:02  Speaker 2:  So like, yeah, you're right about Great question. That's a great question. Surprised more people don't ask you, actually. I think that you so you 1st asked, is the manufacturing
52:11  Speaker 2:  the problem,
52:13  Speaker 2:  which which you're assuming is the making of the raw material,
52:17  Speaker 2:  right,
52:18  Speaker 2:  versus
52:19  Speaker 2:  the
52:20  Speaker 2:  bottling,
52:21  Speaker 2:  taking that raw material, right, and putting it into vials at different locations. Right. K?
52:27  Speaker 2:  Sure. I think that both so 1st of all, like the no BS answer, like, all of this raw the the manufacturing of the peptides, right, are all done overseas
52:36  Speaker 2:  in China. Okay? I get yeah. Cool. If somebody could show me 1 example of it being done in India or some other country, but but the environmental impact on making these raws is just not feasible here in The United States. So if anybody tells you that the raws are manufactured here in The United States, they're to you. Yeah. They lie. Intentionally or unintentionally.
52:54  Speaker 2:  I'm not sure. But That's right. It's still both a problem. The which is still both a problem. So,
52:59  Speaker 2:  yes, I think the manufacturing is done by a few big manufacturers.
53:05  Speaker 2:  My guess is the most of the problems are gonna be the bottling portion. So they take here's the simplified
53:13  Speaker 2:  process,
53:13  Speaker 2:  folks, is
53:15  Speaker 2:  they take raw material. Okay? I don't care. This is what people call made in America, by the way, is buying raw raw product. Okay? Bringing it here. Okay? Now getting vial, which they bought from China.
53:27  Speaker 2:  Putting
53:29  Speaker 2:  powder in, they put this little salt,
53:32  Speaker 2:  like a salt
53:33  Speaker 2:  puck
53:34  Speaker 2:  inside of there, which helps it
53:38  Speaker 2:  stay together longer. It's more it's like a preservative a little bit, and it shows a little bit of volume. So you can see the peptide. If there was no salt puck in there, you'd go, what? Looks like you powered powder in here and then poured it back out. Yeah. And now we just have residue. Right? But that actually is the peptide. Salt puck, freeze dry it,
53:56  Speaker 2:  crimp bottle top,
53:58  Speaker 2:  made in America. Right? Oh. That process now, cool. Maybe people believe, hey, American standards of doing that is cleaner than the Chinese standards of doing that.
54:08  Speaker 2:  I think it totally depends on the actual lab that's doing that. Totally. Right? Or the underground lab or the dude's the dude's garage
54:18  Speaker 2:  that he's doing it in. I guess how are gonna look for it? Like, by the way, anything that we use, like, have we we we look at endotoxin tests and
54:27  Speaker 2:  in-depth COAs and have tested things for heavy metals, etcetera, etcetera. We've we have tested and got back some bad
54:35  Speaker 2:  endotoxin heavy metal tests, and we have
54:38  Speaker 2:  not done those. I have way early on before I ever even started trying to, like, get my own, bought them from other sources and taken something for a long time and then tested it later and realized that it had a shit ton of endotoxins in it. I think I said that before,
54:54  Speaker 2:  and I'm still alive. And frankly,
54:55  Speaker 2:  I didn't really notice it. So
54:58  Speaker 2:  I think that
55:00  Speaker 2:  a here's what a lot of companies are doing is the manufacturers that they buy something from, okay, from China will send a test with them. Okay. Oh, look, I tested my product. Now you should just trust me. Then they send that out. Then they tell the public, here's my test. Right? That's not cool. I know that,
55:15  Speaker 2:  you know, a good company should
55:18  Speaker 2:  great. I wanna see the test on on your raws. Right?
55:22  Speaker 2:  But I'm also test retesting them, and then we're gonna bottle them in a in a in a clean lab.
55:28  Speaker 2:  Right? And then retest that bottled product. Right. K.
55:33  Speaker 2:  That's how we choose to, yes,
55:35  Speaker 2:  show test. Well, ironically,
55:37  Speaker 1:  it wasn't planned. I had posted something today because we talked about this a little bit, and I felt like I needed to kind of throw something out there because
55:44  Speaker 1:  we're all blessed because we can get peptides fairly easy these days, but we all there's
55:50  Speaker 1:  a lot of risk to the degree where,
55:52  Speaker 1:  how do I know if I'm using a good company? No 1 doesn't ever fully know, but like, if they're super cheap, you're doing it wrong because they're not being tested. They take a lot of money to be tested. So if a company
56:04  Speaker 1:  if a company has the money to test them, that cost is going to be passed on to you. That's why they're more expensive. Like, you know, and like, either you're gonna be able to see to a degree
56:15  Speaker 1:  who the company is, if it's something that you can kind of pay attention to, if it's somebody that you follow on Instagram, if it's wherever you find the company, there's gonna be some little nuggets that you can find along the way. This company's legit. You can kind of see. You can just be observant, be logical.
56:30  Speaker 1:  Larger company that's charging you a little more, they have the money to test them, and that's going to be passed on to you. It's worth
56:39  Speaker 1:  spending money on something you are going to inject. Now, Will just said,
56:43  Speaker 1:  Is it going to kill you? Probably. High probability, no. You might get rashes and bumps and stuff, and the worst thing is you might get very low dose of whatever it is you're getting. Mhmm. But you're still spending money on it. So spend a little more money to use a good company. Trust me, they pass the cost on you because they test the products, but you know you're getting the products. Yep. Early on
57:05  Speaker 2:  On demand. There's a company in San Diego that's been testing
57:09  Speaker 2:  everything. They're
57:10  Speaker 2:  like DEA certified and HPLC.
57:13  Speaker 2:  You know,
57:14  Speaker 2:  that's all their tests, and they contacted us
57:17  Speaker 2:  early on to to test all of their equipment out because we happen to be close by. But to test their testing equipment. Right?
57:26  Speaker 2:  And without saying too much because I can't, but basically to test them correctly, they needed 24 bottles. And so, like, that adds up for a company. Yeah,
57:35  Speaker 2:  dude. Just to just to give, right, to Kithworth to get something tested in addition to I mean, I would say these tests to get it tested,
57:45  Speaker 2:  on average, it's between 300 to $700.
57:48  Speaker 2:  I know this for a fact. So
57:51  Speaker 2:  and then on to do that for every single batch that is produced, like, that's adds up. He's right. And then you're losing 24 bottles in every single test.
57:59  Speaker 2:  That's why the costs are higher. That's why the costs are higher. So that and I would say, hey, man. Like, look and see if this or somehow figure out, hey. Is there are there a lot of people buying from this
58:08  Speaker 2:  company? I what I wouldn't do is test so here's the thing. A lot of these, like, Trustpilot
58:14  Speaker 2:  and
58:15  Speaker 2:  a lot of these
58:17  Speaker 2:  companies that are out there, they they grade different online companies
58:22  Speaker 2:  based on not just consumer reviews, not at all. That's like some percentage, but basically, like, do they have a payment processor that is that is a quality? Right? And if you don't, you miss now you're downgraded by, like, 50%. Oh, wow. Right? Because you're untrustworthy
58:38  Speaker 2:  company because you're not using Visa or Mastercard. Oh, man. A lot of these peptide companies, right, well, by the way, a pep to for a peptide company to get a payment processor, it costs about twenties
58:48  Speaker 2:  about 20%. So every single dollar they make, 20%, goodbye. Yeah. Alright. Well, you see 10% of bad There's more cost. Months.
58:56  Speaker 2:  So that's why you're gonna see a lot of them just do Venmo,
58:59  Speaker 2:  Zelle, blah blah blah. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of
59:04  Speaker 2:  the product. But I just, I know that a lot of those considerations go into those trusting
59:08  Speaker 2:  Choosing. Whatever
59:10  Speaker 2:  grades
59:11  Speaker 2:  and that kind of that's too bad for those companies. Do that. So I don't know, dude. Yeah. Talk to the customer service too, man. And, like,
59:19  Speaker 2:  I don't know. Do they respond? Do they respond?
59:22  Speaker 2:  Do they treat you well? Do they do they talk to you? Do they kind of you know, they can't really tell you how you use things. Right? That's not legal because they can't sell these for human consumption. Yeah. But
59:35  Speaker 2:  they should at least respond and do the best There's ways to sell what you can tell if, like, what companies are worth and what
59:42  Speaker 2:  it's there to read. People don't People read
59:44  Speaker 2:  the roadside. Do they stand by the products? Do they send you another 1 that gets whatever,
59:49  Speaker 2:  broken or damaged, etcetera.
59:51  Speaker 2:  Alright. And I do think it is a little bit of an exaggerated concern, like JD said.
59:56  Speaker 2:  Get a rash. Alright. Yeah. Where you don't get what you get. Yeah. I think the biggest biggest concern for me is that I'm like, yeah, you're giving me something that's like 0.5 of what you It ain't working well. It was $7, dude. So Exactly.
1:00:06  Speaker 2:  Alright. Love the pod and the crew. Hearing conflicting suggestions for staying on Reta at low dose of 1.5
1:00:13  Speaker 2:  migs per week after reaching goal weight and titration down.
1:00:16  Speaker 2:  Is it viable to keep running it to continue to be an internal fat burning furnace and to continue to gain benefits metabolically?
1:00:24  Speaker 2:  What's your thoughts? And if yes, suggestion on how long to run it before desensitization.
1:00:29  Speaker 2:  Suggested break and when to restart the same 1.5 megs dose. Much appreciated, bros. Keep up the good work and the transparency.
1:00:37  Speaker 2:  It means a lot.
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1:01:00  Speaker 1:  Be a little bit different again. I can't
1:01:03  Speaker 1:  tell you
1:01:04  Speaker 1:  how long I plan on being
1:01:06  Speaker 1:  on it. You know, there's not years and years and years and years of study of it. So that's just the way it is.
1:01:13  Speaker 1:  My experience with it is you definitely lose
1:01:18  Speaker 1:  the,
1:01:20  Speaker 1:  some of the ability where it kind of blocks the hunger. I think that's just in the beginning, right? But it's working. Like you do not need a lot of Reta.
1:01:28  Speaker 1:  And again, it's kind of contingent, but if you've reached your goals and you're taking 1.5 mg, right? That's still such a low dose. Like I probably will continue to take 1.5 mg,
1:01:39  Speaker 1:  which I have. That's my low dose. And then when I'm ready to burn more fat, I'll do 3 mg. And I plan on doing that for quite some time. So
1:01:47  Speaker 1:  again, it's a matter of opinion. I don't think you necessarily need to come off on it. If you do, that's kind of up to you.
1:01:54  Speaker 1:  I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna really answer that, but that's my take, man. I think that's such a low dose and people think it's not working. It's freaking working, dude. Retrite tooth is powerful. It's still burning fat. It's still working.
1:02:05  Speaker 1:  If you've hit your goal goal,
1:02:08  Speaker 1:  then you can go down a little bit. I would kind of stay on it a little bit just to kind of keep it in your system personally.
1:02:13  Speaker 2:  Right. I think that there is are learning that there's a lot of benefit to Reta, like, besides the fat burning. So I actually do think that you should stay. I think like we're learning it's actually good for you.
1:02:24  Speaker 2:  And for like meta for metabolic health at a low dose. Okay. At a low, like, maybe even less than a 1.5, like, 1.5 mg a week. Okay. Cool. That's a low dose. Yes. I did. I thought that was 3 times a week. But honestly,
1:02:38  Speaker 2:  shoot, what I would say for I'd stay on it. I do stay on it.
1:02:42  Speaker 2:  A little bit lower than that, right, for my brain health and alertness and,
1:02:47  Speaker 2:  yeah, for a little bit of metabolic, right, keep the fire the furnace going. So I don't know. You know, maybe do I wanna stay on it for 30 years? Probably not.
1:02:55  Speaker 2:  I don't I don't know. Just I don't wanna have to be taking something for that long, but
1:03:00  Speaker 2:  I don't see a year maybe drop down. Like, you know, play with it. Just be yourself. You know, if you can get around and just be fine with nothing, that's the goal. Right? I would love to just walk around naked and be happy and be perfect. Totally.
1:03:15  Speaker 2:  There's nothing wrong with staying on it little bit long term. If you do get off it, definitely, like, wean, wean, wean down. Right? See how you got body goes. Right? If you wanna get back on it, what the hell? Go get back on it. If you wean down and you go, oh,
1:03:27  Speaker 2:  wait, I like now I'm not feeling good or too much food noise or or fat's coming back, like, then just stay at that low dose or maybe bump slightly up where you were good, stay there, and then try in a month to wean back down.
1:03:39  Speaker 2:  So there is no hard fast rules on this question. There's just really it's just
1:03:43  Speaker 2:  you, but I I don't see and we also don't really know long term data. Sorry. There's no data that tells us 50 years is what it is. Like, I
1:03:50  Speaker 2:  don't know, but
1:03:52  Speaker 2:  it's a pretty standard metabolic process and we can kind of guess and forecast
1:03:56  Speaker 2:  what the problems are going to be long term and they're really
1:04:00  Speaker 2:  pretty good.
1:04:02  Speaker 2:  So
1:04:02  Speaker 2:  yeah, dude, there's no refard fast rule on that 1.
1:04:05  Speaker 1:  Sorry. All right. You're up. I mean, yeah, I read that 1. Hey lads. Love your work. Love the potty. You must be from Australia down in India. I love the potty. I've,
1:04:16  Speaker 1:  I've been smashing it the last few weeks as I'm diving deep into the peps, looking for your opinion. I'm an endurance dad athlete
1:04:24  Speaker 1:  looking to better my physique,
1:04:26  Speaker 1:  gain muscle, strip fat, and endurance overall, and sometimes struggle in the distance stuff
1:04:32  Speaker 1:  as I can just,
1:04:34  Speaker 1:  as I just can't eat enough fuel. Current running 4 times per week and the gym 5 times a week.
1:04:41  Speaker 1:  So looking for what
1:04:43  Speaker 1:  you would think for best stat. Currently running Retta 1.5
1:04:47  Speaker 1:  megs weekly split up to Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Awesome. 1 meg of Wolverine nightly, CJC Ipam, nightly,
1:04:54  Speaker 1:  5 Amino,
1:04:55  Speaker 1:  2.5.
1:04:57  Speaker 1:  It just started HGH,
1:04:59  Speaker 1:  2 IUs daily.
1:05:01  Speaker 1:  Should I run HGH in the night
1:05:04  Speaker 1:  and move CJC to the morning? You should definitely switch that. I'm pretty new to all this, but diving in hard. I've got a few other available to me now, like Tesa, MOTS-1.0, AOD-1.1,
1:05:15  Speaker 1:  Ipah.
1:05:16  Speaker 1:  I would love your thoughts, please. You guys are legends.
1:05:20  Speaker 1:  That is a big thing in Australia. Legends. They say legends often. I just say like legend. You wanna take that? Like, great.
1:05:27  Speaker 2:  Yeah, sure. Cool. So 1st I would say, are you taking any testosterone?
1:05:31  Speaker 2:  And for a low for for an endurance person,
1:05:34  Speaker 2:  low dose, especially if your age, like, that's gonna help you recover so much. But you don't wanna be doing too much. I think that's hard to get. I think it is really hard. It's hard to get all this stuff, though. So I know. Was surprising that But it is doable. All this. Yeah. So, but it is doable.
1:05:49  Speaker 2:  But if you do take tests, like keep it low dose because a lot of it isn't good on your endurance.
1:05:55  Speaker 2:  But
1:05:56  Speaker 2:  also the RET, I don't know if you need you know, you're you're diving in deep, but like, you're working hard. Right? Yeah.
1:06:03  Speaker 2:  With the RET, no wonder you can't get enough calories in to fuel you. You know, just with all that hard work, it depends on your genetics. Right? You may need less. You may be able to take less Retta and therefore could intake more food. Yeah. Might have to take that get off it. Or get off of it. I don't know. That's depending on how you feel and look. My guess is that's gonna cut into some of your energy just because, we need calories. You like you said, you need calories to to to to use energy.
1:06:28  Speaker 2:  I think the growth is perfect
1:06:30  Speaker 2:  to use. You need that for your recovery. Like, don't your body's just gonna get beat up. It's that's what I'm seeing.
1:06:37  Speaker 2:  And hard work
1:06:38  Speaker 2:  means your body gets beat up. Right? Everybody looks great. I almost guarantee it doesn't has a lot of injuries.
1:06:45  Speaker 2:  You don't necessarily feel great
1:06:48  Speaker 2:  in the small joint areas.
1:06:50  Speaker 2:  All of those other things,
1:06:52  Speaker 2:  I think what JD said is is do do the do the HGH in the morning, the security dogs at night. K?
1:06:59  Speaker 2:  HGH in the morning or
1:07:01  Speaker 2:  yeah. Reason is at nighttime is our biggest pulse is right when we go to sleep. K? And you don't want your body to think, hey, wait. Look how much growth I have in it. Let's slow that pulse down. Right?
1:07:14  Speaker 2:  So that's why you wanna do it in the morning and not at night right before that big pulse. All these other ones, well, experiment with them. Let's not throw them all in at 1 time,
1:07:23  Speaker 2:  but I would, you know, picks pick 0.5 of these.
1:07:27  Speaker 2:  I would also do MOTS C and SS 31 for sure. That's gonna help with your mitochondria. That's gonna, again, gonna help your repair and intracellular
1:07:35  Speaker 2:  helping repair your body after you work really hard and burn off a lot of good nutrients
1:07:41  Speaker 2:  and vitamins and minerals, etcetera,
1:07:44  Speaker 2:  that'll keep you healthy.
1:07:46  Speaker 2:  Right? Our immune system is down too, like, when we at the peak time of exercise
1:07:52  Speaker 2:  or right after after we've used everything.
1:07:55  Speaker 2:  So
1:07:56  Speaker 1:  I don't know. I think that's all I have. Like, it looks like you're kicking ass and just keep doing that. You've thought through this. I would say the only thing that I could even add is you could actually, if you wanna, if you're having a problem not getting enough calories, you could pull out the Retta. You can add in like a SLU-PP-three
1:08:09  Speaker 1:  32. That's gonna be good for endurance anyway.
1:08:12  Speaker 1:  And then, or if you want to stay on the Retta, just add an MK-677
1:08:15  Speaker 1:  if you can get it. I don't know how that is in Australia, if that's where you're from.
1:08:20  Speaker 1:  Because they offset each other well.
1:08:22  Speaker 1:  You will eat more even on the Retta. I know that with experience.
1:08:26  Speaker 1:  So that will help you kind of offset. And so the Retta will still do what the Retta do,
1:08:30  Speaker 1:  and the MK will make you eat more. So that probably would be a good fit for you. I would try that if you can get the MK-677.
1:08:38  Speaker 2:  For sure. That's good. Actually, good point. You said you have access to Ipamorelin. I would actually, like, take a decent amount of Ipamorelin if you can't get MK. So same thing. Right? Those those work the same way through that ghrelin
1:08:52  Speaker 2:  receptor pathway, which in turn boosts your hunger. Now MK
1:08:57  Speaker 2:  turns on your it makes your pulses not be pulses, but just Woo. Fuck, just steady rush of growth. Yeah. Whereas IpA increases the heck out of your pulses,
1:09:08  Speaker 2:  but they're all done through that ghrelin receptor. So I think the Ipam will be very helpful if you can't get to MK. Yeah.
1:09:15  Speaker 2:  Love it. Yeah. But keep I don't know, dude. Keep kicking butt. Yeah. Take it on, dude. Alright. Hi, guys. I love the podcast. I have been using some peptides.
1:09:24  Speaker 2:  Glow, MOTSY SS 31, Epitalon, and Retta.
1:09:28  Speaker 2:  67 year old female. I've been lifting weights way before it was cool for women to lift. Nice. I'm lean in good shape, and my numbers are all good, but I was born with a stupid bi cuspid aortic valve. My goal is to put off a valve replacement as long as I can.
1:09:43  Speaker 2:  I've talked to a couple of functional doctors and they agree the peptides I am using could possibly help.
1:09:50  Speaker 2:  My question is about Cardiogen.
1:09:52  Speaker 2:  I haven't found much info on it and haven't, and I haven't heard you guys talk about it. I've ordered it and plan on adding it once I finish this rounds of SS-thirty 1 and MOTSI. All right. I don't know. So this 1, I'm
1:10:06  Speaker 2:  afraid I'm not going to give you a great answer. But 1st of all, as your doctors have told you, the bicuspid aortic valve is more of a structural thing. Okay?
1:10:16  Speaker 2:  No peptides are going to, like, fix that problem. Now you kind of acknowledge that by saying, hey. I'm just trying to put off the replacements as long as I can. So
1:10:26  Speaker 2:  I do I think and so cardiogenic, there's just why you haven't found a lot of info because there isn't a lot of info.
1:10:34  Speaker 2:  And
1:10:35  Speaker 2:  I don't yeah. So I just don't have a lot of info for you. There isn't there's stuff that I think that SS-thirty 1 and MOTS-three is better for you. It's better for this problem.
1:10:46  Speaker 2:  I would if so my conclusion is I would be the 1 I would kinda go heavier on the SS 31. I'd still take the MOTSI at maybe a MIG a day, but I would, like, be boost boost up your SS 31. Shoot. I mean, even up to, like, 10 MIGs a day.
1:11:03  Speaker 2:  That's a lot to like,
1:11:05  Speaker 2:  but I wouldn't do any less than 5 MIGs a day.
1:11:07  Speaker 2:  So 10 MIGs isn't that isn't all that much. But basically, that's just increasing the, like, integrity of your, like, mitochondrial wall. Right? Because
1:11:16  Speaker 2:  all this energy and everything is made MOTS-seventeen is boosting your mitochondrial energy. Right? This is kinda like the your engine.
1:11:23  Speaker 2:  If 0.5 of this if if this energy is just leaking out the sides, right, and is not going through where it's supposed to go, it's just basically kinda worthless. So SS 31 is just shoring that housing up. So all of that energy gets used and goes down the right place so your body can't actually use it. Right? And it's very that's
1:11:42  Speaker 2:  very,
1:11:43  Speaker 2:  very important. Yeah.
1:11:46  Speaker 2:  And I think that would help the
1:11:49  Speaker 2:  your cardiovascular
1:11:51  Speaker 2:  support
1:11:52  Speaker 2:  more than cardiogenic. Also, cardiogenic I mean, it's just tough. Like, even if we took it, you know, I don't think we would notice a difference.
1:11:59  Speaker 2:  I think that somebody who is potentially
1:12:02  Speaker 2:  very deficient like we talked about and and and just happens to be that 1 1 in 1000 cases, like, or maybe more that needs that 1 little thing. You take it, they could do miracles. So,
1:12:12  Speaker 2:  but again, I don't have enough research to even
1:12:15  Speaker 1:  give you a recommendation on that. Yeah. That's like- can only give you my experience with certain things, and
1:12:21  Speaker 1:  I don't know what
1:12:24  Speaker 1:  entails a replacement valve and the recovery time, and maybe that's your main objective to avoid that. I can just speak with my experience recently to where I tried so hard to fight this damn surgery. I've had 4, so this was my 5th and I just was so, so trying. I took so much Wolverine and TB-five hundred and BPC so
1:12:43  Speaker 1:  much trying to like put it into my bottom part of my leg with the nerve and my butt just, I did my best.
1:12:49  Speaker 1:  Peptides are amazing, but they just, they're not magic, you know? So
1:12:53  Speaker 1:  I don't know again, I'm not gonna tell you to have the surgery or not have a surgery. I don't know what that entails, but my experience when it's something that's out lie, peptides aren't gonna fix it, you know? So if you're prolonging it anyway,
1:13:05  Speaker 1:  might as well just kind of get it done, heal, and keep kicking ass.
1:13:09  Speaker 1:  That's my take.
1:13:10  Speaker 1:  I like, that's not my take. I don't know what the recovery time is. Happy for your doctor who said that pepatides are probably a good play. Good for them. They're starting to come around to the fact that they better jump on the ship or the ship is going through.
1:13:23  Speaker 1:  We'll leave you at the dock. Western medicine,
1:13:26  Speaker 1:  bye.
1:13:27  Speaker 1:  It's Chip. We love you, doctors. Yeah. We get a lot of them coming on. And then also, so we're gonna throw this out in on this. So we have, man, this podcast has come a damn long way and we love it. We enjoy it. It's 1 of the favorite things that we do. And,
1:13:40  Speaker 1:  we do 2 podcasts a week. We do the Q and A, which we just did, and we do a peptide of the week, which is we usually break down to. Sometimes we talk about TRT because we love it.
1:13:50  Speaker 1:  We are thinking about adding 0.333 that will add a lot to our plate, but, I think it would do a lot. So give us some feedback. So the idea behind it, at least, is we are thinking, we have to think through this more, so little premature, but we wanted your thoughts. We were thinking maybe adding another
1:14:07  Speaker 1:  podcast, so that'd be 3 a week for this podcast,
1:14:10  Speaker 1:  and adding a
1:14:12  Speaker 1:  guest of the week, maybe a doctor or a nurse practitioner or
1:14:16  Speaker 1:  somebody in the realm of what we do. We are having a friend of ours on who does my Botox and,
1:14:24  Speaker 1:  she runs a couple of wellness centers and she knows a lot about it. She travels all over the world to do education on all kinds of stuff. So ladies,
1:14:31  Speaker 1:  maybe next week we're going to have her on. The reason we want to have her on, she does, hormone pellets, testosterone pellets.
1:14:38  Speaker 1:  We talk a lot about that for men,
1:14:41  Speaker 1:  and a lot of women have been hitting us up about stuff for you guys. So she's gonna come on. She goes well to center. She knows a lot about a lot of that stuff.
1:14:48  Speaker 1:  She's gonna talk to you ladies. So let us know about that and let us know if the 3 a week would be something of interest and we will sit down and talk about it. Yep. Cool. For sure. Alright. We've gone long, so we love you guys. We will see you next time. Good night.