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1:06Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast.
1:08Speaker 1I am your host, JD Denham.
1:11Speaker 1Like always across the way, Mr. William T. Haas. How are doing? We got matching shirts on today. Yeah, we got dope shirts, dude. I like these shirts.
1:20Speaker 2It's getting warm, right? It's getting warm.
1:24Speaker 1Have so many like lovers and haters on my comments,
1:28Speaker 1and I wore a shirt the other day, a full shirt, and posted something and some guy goes, now you're finally act acting like dressing like a man or something like that. I'm
1:38Speaker 1damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't, but I got a kind of cool little story. So
1:43Speaker 1you and I work hard, everybody here works hard.
1:46Speaker 1When you're driven, it's some times
1:48Speaker 1it comes to catch 22 because you get so focused and razor focused. You have goals, you want to achieve them and what not. And the other day my bride comes downstairs and she was a little upset, and
1:59Speaker 1she was just kind of basically telling me that she wanted more time with me. And it's funny, the reason I say this to you is we
2:06Speaker 1learned in Alcoholics Anonymous that we are not responsible for our 1st thought, we're responsible for our 2nd thought. So my 1st thought, and I did started
2:14Speaker 1I did actually respond in that 1st thought, which was, this is why I do it all for you and started being defensive. And
2:20Speaker 1mid mid sentence, I caught myself. I thought of that as I was talking and then realized that my beautiful bride
2:27Speaker 1just wants to spend time with me. What am I complaining about? So it was cool, but it was kind of cool how, and this is the reason I'm saying this. So it was kind of cool how we fixed it. It was just kind of a fluke that like has turned into something that's been pretty rad. She was going to some like yoga sculpt things that she loves to do.
2:43Speaker 1And I was, she said, Why don't you come with me to that tonight? And I'm like,
2:48Speaker 1okay. You know, it wouldn't have been my 1st,
2:50Speaker 1like, response. If it was a different day, would have probably been, no.
2:54Speaker 1We'll wait for dinner. Like, we'll go to different another day. But anyways, I went because she was upset and I was trying to just spend some time with her and dude, it was freaking rad. I was blown away. I didn't know what I was getting into. It was, I thought it was like, at least be Gibbons where I like to sweat and like it's working out sweating.
3:10Speaker 1It has a lot of hit flare
3:12Speaker 1and I was going to insert into more hit anyway to get kind of like more ripped and dude, nothing like doing that type of stuff in a row.
3:19Speaker 1You feel amazing. I walked out of there and felt like 1000000 bucks, bro. I felt so good. I've gone 3 times since we're going tonight, Sarah's coming and it's going to be kind of our new thing, like 4 nights a week, spend some time together in a workout class.
3:33Speaker 1That's dope, dude. So
3:35Speaker 1there you go, gentlemen, maybe if you're into fitness,
3:38Speaker 1include your bride or something creative.
3:41Speaker 2It worked out well. Yes. And I think a class is a good 1. I mean, that's just so hard. I've gone to those before and I've made the mistake also. Think Jimmy Queen, we were just talking to him earlier Cocky.
3:50Speaker 2He's like, yeah, I've made the mistake for sure grabbing the heavy weights.
3:54Speaker 2Bad idea. Was like,
3:56Speaker 2I'll go, but I'm grabbing the 2 and a halfs. Like all you ladies, you understand how heavy these arms are already, And
4:04Speaker 2just doing yoga in general, but it's not yoga. It's basically like you're lifting weights in a sauna. They call it yoga, there's no yoga. I mean, I guess there's some stretching.
4:12Speaker 1But dude, it was great. The workout's amazing. I feel like I've already worked and just it's worked already and cutting some fat off me in 3 days. So, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a But I, and I agree, I have the same problem at home with
4:28Speaker 2my woman wanting,
4:30Speaker 2yes, wanting to spend time with me. Doesn't know how she was. She wants me to, yeah, and she wants me to come home earlier and gets a little upset sometimes when I come home and then work the rest of the night. And absolutely,
4:42Speaker 2she just wants to see me and frankly telling me like, Get to bed early or
4:47Speaker 2don't work so hard. And really, she's right. And maybe that's why that makes me because there is I mean, she does want the best for me. But she's just trying to Right. Because that's not a sustainable
4:58Speaker 2way to live.
4:59Speaker 2For sure. Nor does it Yeah, you gotta just And even then, like I get more productive if I do give my brain
5:06Speaker 2breaks. Yeah. For sure. Like just completely tune out and like focus on something else.
5:12Speaker 2But I do the same thing also, which said, look,
5:16Speaker 2do you think, like I would much rather be laying here on the couch
5:20Speaker 2with you doing absolutely nothing or sitting by the pool than working, okay? I'm not going, I'm not like,
5:27Speaker 2do you think, it's like you think I'm going to the bar with my friends or something.
5:31Speaker 2Like this is not what's happening.
5:34Speaker 2I'm doing this not
5:36Speaker 2by choice. I mean, ultimately I have free will,
5:40Speaker 2this is all for, it needs to be done. And this is all for- Employees now and their families. Right, yeah. So I got other people's lives in front of me. And you guys, you want a good life,
5:50Speaker 2but
5:51Speaker 2there's a good mix between there. Yeah, it's always balanced. And I've said,
5:55Speaker 2so like, hey, yo, I
5:56Speaker 2would love your support. But
5:59Speaker 2also
6:00Speaker 2I will try, I'll do better, I will listen to you. Not just gonna get my way to the highway then you will like it or not.
6:07Speaker 2But I'll try to get her to
6:09Speaker 1think 1 of the things that
6:11Speaker 1I've learned in marriage,
6:13Speaker 1especially with my wife, she's just my perfect equal.
6:16Speaker 1And sometimes if I tend to be hot headed at times, she's my voice of reason where she's like, Hey, you know, calm down a little bit. That's good because I need to hear that. And for me,
6:27Speaker 1you know, my wife, she's like,
6:29Speaker 1God put me in her life to save her from a lot of stuff. She trusts way too many people way too fast. I've
6:35Speaker 1saved her quite a few times. So it's a good-
6:37Speaker 2hard to make me happy around her. She's like having a golden retriever at home. Yeah. That's
6:42Speaker 1actually a good way to put it. Wife's like that. She wants to make it home.
6:47Speaker 1That's why she was like
6:50Speaker 1like you started to shed a tear, which my wife is a crier and I caught myself and was like, I'm getting pissed off because she ended up defending myself because my beautiful wife wants to spend time with me. Like,
7:02Speaker 1geez. I'm not good at
7:05Speaker 1wanting to regurgitate my day though.
7:08Speaker 1She wants to hear my day, she truly wants to and I just lived it and don't really want to revisit it. Like how's your day? It was pretty good. It's good. I just spent all day teaching people how to do something and explaining things. The last thing I want to do is re explain those same things. But
7:24Speaker 1the point is we both, all men, have to leave some room for
7:29Speaker 1that. And there's a give or take where you gotta open up a little bit because that's all they want. Yep. And it
7:34Speaker 1helps
7:36Speaker 2The explaining of the day, I guess, does help when
7:39Speaker 2and my girls actually got really good with this and I kind of haven't budged. So she was the 1 who moved a little bit more, was texting me throughout the day and wanting to have an ongoing conversation all day long. She does? She used to. Yeah, that's what Liz is. I'm like, I just can't do that. That's a lie. What am I gonna talk to you about when I come home if I give you a legit 5 minute play by play all day long?
7:59Speaker 1You
8:00Speaker 1hire her best friend, so that's what we did. We hired my wife's best friend. And so now they talk all day. And so my wife and I go home, she goes, Oh, I heard this and this and this. And I was like, Yeah, you know, so I don't have to say this. Yep.
8:12Speaker 1You go, fellas. She filled gin. Hire her best friend.
8:15Speaker 2You know, I have read some things where it's like, Women,
8:19Speaker 2you have girlfriend, like biologically,
8:21Speaker 2physiologically, right? You have girlfriends
8:23Speaker 2who also share the same mental,
8:26Speaker 2emotional space and needs.
8:29Speaker 2This is why you have girlfriends. The girlfriends are there to do this, to talk to,
8:33Speaker 2have your long term thoughts The emotional side. Yeah. And just to have your quality just talk, talk, I don't even know what you're gonna talk about. Who cares? Do it. But that is not your man is not gonna be good at that. No. Hopefully.
8:47Speaker 2And he's not gonna be good at You're never gonna be happy with that because he's not just going to be good at Quit forcing him to do that. Use
8:53Speaker 2your girlfriends for that. 100. And use your man for what he is meant to do. I don't wanna talk about that fufu shit.
9:00Speaker 2No. It's just gonna upset you because I like Yeah.
9:04Speaker 1I'm not happy to I know some of our friends, man, some of the conversations they have though, and some do like to talk about that. I'm like, You guys talk about that? He's like, I don't talk about any of that stuff in my life too. I know, but I don't want to talk about any of that dude, so I won't.
9:17Speaker 2Also wonder, like you see in movies or people like, Oh,
9:22Speaker 2my husband wasn't there for the kid because he was so busy out traveling, making
9:26Speaker 2money and working really hard.
9:28Speaker 2I often wonder,
9:29Speaker 2I don't know,
9:32Speaker 2how close I
9:33Speaker 2am to that, which I don't think I'm close at all to like ruining a marriage, right? And I wonder if anybody
9:40Speaker 2who is literally who's working all the time
9:44Speaker 2can still have a great marriage,
9:47Speaker 2how do they handle that with their wives? Do they just learn to ignore it and there's gonna be some complaining? Because it strikes me that every woman is gonna ask the same thing
9:57Speaker 2of their husbands.
9:58Speaker 1Liz is really good at that stuff. She knows when I'm working, I need to work. She's probably best of
10:03Speaker 1anybody that I know she knows. And she stays home, so she's supported and like she knows that the cards are always gonna be on and that's huge. I saw some
10:12Speaker 1posts the other day that there's some people starting to think talk like that. It was about how you can either have super driven man who's gonna have a business who's successful and he's gonna be working 365
10:22Speaker 1days even on Christmas, and you gotta realize that. You can have a man at home that's a baby and you gotta take care of a baby, which 1 you want. Right. And I was like, that is dope. I sent it to my wife. Yeah. See?
10:32Speaker 2And I
10:33Speaker 2felt her like, okay,
10:35Speaker 2it's just not possible for me to go, all right, I'll work 20% less. It's either
10:40Speaker 2I either do what needs to be done or I don't. Right. And then you have nothing.
10:45Speaker 2Multiple people counting on you for their paychecks. When you're in Hawaii, I gotta work some. Yeah. Exactly. And she's cool with that. And she is cool with that. She's learning and and understanding and
10:55Speaker 2and learning really that I'm not doing this.
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11:27Speaker 2I'm not, yeah, I'm not hanging out with my friends at the bar. Like, I don't want I don't necessarily want to be doing. No. I I actually love my work more than I I know. Me too. I'm like, when I'm out here, I'm like thinking about drag, working
11:38Speaker 1but I love what we do. But I would rather just be hanging out. Yeah. I think. At the end of the day, though, they say like, if you do something you love, like shit dude, I can't even think of another job that I would even take. If I could take another job, any job in the world that like gave me the same financial position,
11:54Speaker 1still do this job. Do when I'm not working. I'm thinking about being at work and doing different stuff. I think that's a good life right there. I agree. And providing for other people. It's good shit. It is. Yep. Being creative and creating things. Good shit.
12:07Speaker 1Today's a good day. We're going to talk about 2
12:11Speaker 1compounds that are very similar. There are a
12:14Speaker 1piece of the human growth hormone chain. They're the last pieces, I think 15 and 16. So frag
12:22Speaker 1176
12:23Speaker 1to 191
12:24Speaker 1is 15. And then you got the AOD, which is going to be that last amino acid. So slight, slight, slight different, very similar, but some
12:33Speaker 1very There's some similar, a couple things that are a little different.
12:36Speaker 1So
12:37Speaker 1take it over, man. Show us a little bit about what you have.
12:42Speaker 2All right, so 1st of all, I guess those of you, whoever it is on your screen, we can see it. But
12:48Speaker 21st things 1st, HGH frag, okay, HGH frag 176
12:52Speaker 2to 191. That is the name of that
12:55Speaker 21. And then we have AOD-nine
12:57Speaker 2thousand 604,
12:58Speaker 2which is AOD stands for anti obesity
13:01Speaker 2drug.
13:02Speaker 2HGH fragment,
13:04Speaker 2176,
13:04Speaker 2because it is a fragment of the HGH chain. Right? HGH is the human
13:11Speaker 2full amino acid profiles, 191 amino acids, okay?
13:15Speaker 2The FRAG is 176 through 191, AOD is basically 177
13:20Speaker 2through 191, 1st
13:23Speaker 2things,
13:25Speaker 2let's see. So FRAG,
13:27Speaker 2it is so FRAG is the natural here's
13:31Speaker 2the quick differences. So FRAG is the actual natural 176
13:35Speaker 2through 191. Okay? Is that they just cut the rest of the HGH out, it was created, because that part of chain
13:42Speaker 2is the fat burning part, okay? That is the part that is responsible
13:46Speaker 2for lipolysis,
13:48Speaker 2right? Lipolysis, lipids, fat, okay?
13:52Speaker 2And metabolic boosting, but the whole goal is to burn fat while not having any of that growth potential of the HGH. Any negatives. Any negatives, any IGF-one
14:01Speaker 2boost.
14:02Speaker 2Yep.
14:03Speaker 2Any potential, like if we're worried about cancer, you're worried about growing things like this stuff literally will not
14:09Speaker 2make any effect on that. Yeah, it's a lot. It's not gonna help
14:12Speaker 2with growth, with, yeah, with growing any cancer, No etcetera,
14:17Speaker 2causing of hypoglycemia,
14:20Speaker 2anything like that. The safety profile of both of these is extremely good. You will see them come in at 5 mg usually because they both do not like water. Okay? AOD, HGH frag don't like water. You don't wanna get a high milligram bottle because regardless of the AOD, acetic acid water you put in there, it's not gonna last long. So 5 mgs is what I would suggest to you if you ever buy a bottle of this stuff.
14:46Speaker 2Next is your AOD.
14:47Speaker 2Damn similar, okay? So the quick difference is AOD
14:53Speaker 2basically laboratory engineered,
14:56Speaker 2whereas the HGH frag is natural,
14:59Speaker 2is those natural amino acids. AOD is made in the laboratory
15:03Speaker 2and it is designed to last longer in a person's body, and
15:09Speaker 2therefore be a little bit safer. It's basically designed to
15:12Speaker 2work more as an actual drug. It's a modified form of the HGH fragment. Also, 1 thing to note, you'll see here, right?
15:20Speaker 2AOD-nine thousand 604 received
15:22Speaker 2the GRAS generally recognized as safe status from the FDA in 2014,
15:27Speaker 2a milestone that distinguishes it from most
15:30Speaker 2research peptides.
15:32Speaker 2Safe. The other thing that's really interesting is this guy,
15:36Speaker 2the cartilage. So when reading and doing research, there is the potential of cartilage repair
15:42Speaker 2with AOD
15:43Speaker 2and joint cartilage nowhere to be found Yeah, with HGH
15:46Speaker 2cool thing too, for a shout out, because we have so many Aussies
15:49Speaker 2out there.
15:51Speaker 2Shout out to you guys. It was developed in Australia. So Monash University
15:56Speaker 2is where that came from. That's in Australia.
15:58Speaker 2Late nineties to 2 thousands. So I know you Aussies love to listen to this show. So there you go. This was started in your country. In your country. So benefits, okay? So really, like, they're all basically the same benefits. Okay?
16:12Speaker 2Attack
16:13Speaker 2attacking abdominal visceral regions, right? Which is great. Which is good. That's the increased energy expenditure, so your metabolism, not only is it gonna target fat, but it's gonna boost your metabolism, which burns calories everywhere,
16:27Speaker 2and therefore
16:28Speaker 2fat.
16:30Speaker 2It's not gonna have any effect on your glucose or any meaningful effect on your glucose or IGF-one levels. So again, the TAD HGH frag has been around for a long time. Bodybuilders have been using this stuff for a long, long time.
16:43Speaker 2And then recently
16:44Speaker 2they went into, then they started creating this AOD, which is now having more
16:49Speaker 2human trials. Still, most
16:51Speaker 2of the clinical data is on animal
16:53Speaker 2data, but some
16:56Speaker 2study highlights consistently shows, this is AOD, consistently shows 50%
17:01Speaker 2greater fat reduction
17:02Speaker 2versus controls with both peptides.
17:05Speaker 2Obese participants lost significantly more body fat versus placebo over 12 weeks.
17:11Speaker 2It works, and we have
17:15Speaker 2some 1st person experience with it working.
17:17Speaker 1Yes, so you're talking about the frag? Yes. Yeah, we had a buddy of ours who just started taking it. It's newer to us, so I'm excited. I just actually started taking it as well. My buddy called me, he just started taking it. He's like, Man, I got so much energy
17:30Speaker 1and
17:31Speaker 1coincides with stuff that I've read from it. So it's like a little boost of energy
17:36Speaker 1because it's such a quick,
17:37Speaker 1it works so fast.
17:39Speaker 2So
17:40Speaker 2what to take with either of and
17:44Speaker 2what not to take with them.
17:46Speaker 2Really the safety profile,
17:48Speaker 2I mean,
17:49Speaker 2of these are very safe. Some things to not do is, hey,
17:54Speaker 2don't inject insulin.
17:55Speaker 2You shouldn't do that shit anyway, folks. Don't
18:00Speaker 2take anabolic steroids concurrently.
18:02Speaker 2Probably shouldn't do that anyway.
18:03Speaker 2A lot of us do, but
18:06Speaker 2High dose corticosteroids,
18:07Speaker 2which is like the steroids for anti inflammation,
18:10Speaker 2and full dose HGH.
18:13Speaker 2Basically it may redundant, it's competing for the same receptor pathways and may like negate the safety profile
18:23Speaker 2of the AOD
18:24Speaker 2or HGH frag. I almost think though it's like,
18:28Speaker 2well, how does it negate the safety profile? Well, you're giving yourself HGH, which is the whole point It's like of wanting
18:34Speaker 2you're
18:35Speaker 1trying to take AOD and only AOD is maybe you want to avoid the rest of the HGH chain. Yeah, well it doesn't increase IGF-one, so I I'm trying to find the logic in that because think about it, it's like to me,
18:46Speaker 1this is gonna go against what they're saying here, but if you're taking HGH, that's the fire, and you take the AOD,
18:53Speaker 1it's like taking
18:55Speaker 1a little extra Extra extra on to the fire, why would it have not? I think that that is acceptable. I
19:00Speaker 2think what they're They're throwing water on it. Look, look, the target okay.
19:04Speaker 2May negate the targeted safety
19:07Speaker 2advantage. So the targeted safety advantage of taking these is you get
19:12Speaker 2none of that growth portion of the HGH.
19:15Speaker 2Well, inherently, if you take HGH
19:18Speaker 2on top of this, you're now introducing
19:21Speaker 2what a person may be targetedly trying to avoid. So I don't think it's saying, Hey, these are gonna be that bad to take do with each other. It's just that if you're taking AOD
19:31Speaker 2for the reason of avoiding
19:33Speaker 2any of the negative problems with HCG,
19:35Speaker 2well, adding HGH brings back those problems. Anyway,
19:42Speaker 2so
19:43Speaker 2we have here a list like GLP-one agonist, right? Retatrzeptide,
19:47Speaker 2semaglutide, absolutely take it. It's
19:49Speaker 2a great mix.
19:51Speaker 2Pretty much every other peptide I can think of is
19:55Speaker 2generally okay.
19:56Speaker 25 m 1MQ,
19:58Speaker 2SLU- Any fat burner. Any fat burners are great. Anything else, L carnitine, SLU-. BPC-one
20:05Speaker 2hundred 57, Thymosin beta-four, right? They're talking about enhancing,
20:09Speaker 2I mean, if you're taking AOD and it has a little bit of cartilage repair effect, those 2 are really gonna enhance that.
20:16Speaker 2And the CJC- Epimrelin is going to boost your metabolism and
20:21Speaker 2is going to increase your fat
20:23Speaker 2burning and recovery.
20:25Speaker 2Is that something Like they
20:26Speaker 1I said, it's not FDA approved, but it is FDA stamp of approval that is extremely safe.
20:32Speaker 1I mean, I've read
20:33Speaker 1different things from
20:35Speaker 1different articles and whatnot, and some people aren't big fans of it. It's in my top 5.
20:40Speaker 1I love AOD. I've been off it for a while,
20:44Speaker 1but it's, I love it. I think AOD is amazing. I mean, listen to the name, anti obesity The
20:50Speaker 2whole point was to, yes, Again, study
20:54Speaker 2that a bit
20:56Speaker 2the difference is,
20:59Speaker 20.5 life, 30 minutes on HGH frag, right? 30 minute 0.5 life, it's going to act, it's going to get in you and out of you quicker. Okay? A lot of people, so both of them, should be daily dosing.
21:09Speaker 2The FRAG, you can go twice a day if you feel like it. Hell, some people go 3 times a day. But 30
21:16Speaker 2minutes 0.5 life versus AOD is 30 to 60 minutes.
21:21Speaker 2K? Close. Not much. The only other difference, again, we've noted it, maybe may support some joint
21:28Speaker 2health.
21:30Speaker 2AOD is 1 less amino acid.
21:34Speaker 2And So damn close. So damn close.
21:37Speaker 2The big thing, so dosage protocols on here. Listen up people, this is important. If you're going to buy this, don't This miss this is what I do, and this is what I suggest a person does.
21:49Speaker 2You will see on this graphic,
21:51Speaker 2this is a bottle of, well,
21:54Speaker 2acetic acid, it's AOD water, okay?
21:57Speaker 2You can ask us where to get it and we can tell you, but it's acetic acid,
22:01Speaker 2bacterial static water essentially. This is what needs to be mixed
22:06Speaker 2into the HGH frag and AOD.
22:08Speaker 2Alright, they will gel up if you do not use this water. Get cloudy, gel up, yep.
22:14Speaker 2Maybe not immediately, but they will even then, once you mix these things, guys, I would make sure you use the peptide within 2 weeks, if not, I mean, month, maybe the longest. But even with this water, you're still cutting it close and have a chance that it might gel up. So also, the logical
22:32Speaker 2mixture in a 5 mg bottle, I would normally tell a person to put 1 mill of water in, okay? Then you just get to inject less. You would inject 10 units,
22:42Speaker 2would
22:43Speaker 2give you 500 micrograms.
22:45Speaker 2But
22:45Speaker 2the more water, the better, okay? To prevent the potential gelling up, even with this water. So my suggestion is to add 2 mils of water. Yeah, 2 mils of water, 2 mils of water.
22:58Speaker 2Standard daily dose,
23:00Speaker 2500 micrograms, which would then equal 20 units.
23:04Speaker 2Okay? Daily, both of them.
23:07Speaker 2HGH frag, you wanna get some extra fat burning, do it twice a day, evenly spaced out. Okay? Both
23:12Speaker 2of them should be fasted.
23:14Speaker 2Okay, both doses fasted, no carbs.
23:18Speaker 2You don't want any sugar
23:20Speaker 2kind of competing for the pathways. It will blunt anything that is HGH or dry from HGH. This is saying for
23:26Speaker 1the frag, either
23:28Speaker 1morning or pre workout. That's cool.
23:31Speaker 1Then you take IGF-one after workout. After workout.
23:35Speaker 2I'd
23:36Speaker 2say 8 to 12 weeks for
23:39Speaker 2the frag,
23:40Speaker 212 to 16 weeks in the AOD, just because it lasts a bit longer
23:45Speaker 2and then it's got a little bit better safety profile. So you could do it a little bit longer.
23:51Speaker 2Make sure that these things are refrigerated. I would add in,
23:54Speaker 2as always, room temp water. Yeah. Okay. Room temp water into your cold peptide,
24:00Speaker 2peptide powder, lyophilase in the fridge.
24:02Speaker 2Room temp AOD water, add it in there. Once it mix, put it in the fridge, make sure your fridge isn't too cold. Very true. Right, very important. Like too cold, halfway frozen, people
24:13Speaker 2It might look like it gelled up, but it's just really cold. But
24:17Speaker 2that's
24:17Speaker 1not gonna help it stay liquid. That does, just leave it out for like 20 minutes. You can still use it. People ask me, should I use it if it's cloudy? I've done it countless So
24:27Speaker 2there's your dosing guys, pretty straightforward.
24:30Speaker 2Max dose is I would say about 1000 micrograms.
24:33Speaker 2That would be- 28 in the morning, 29. Yeah. 1000 micrograms a day, max dose.
24:40Speaker 1Keep in mind that these are recommended doses. It doesn't mean you can't go less. It doesn't mean you can't do a little bit more.
24:48Speaker 1Try it. I've always done AOD more. I've done more. It says max 600 micrograms, but I do 20 units in the morning and 20 units at night, and I've always been fine. I love it. So Yep. Right. That is absolutely just as late, I mean, ladies, I'd probably start with 2 50 micrograms.
25:04Speaker 2You're a bigger person, you can handle more, that's just as a general rule. So that's it, we have some, Everybody
25:12Speaker 2who doesn't know, we have a
25:15Speaker 2community for this podcast on school,
25:18Speaker 2and if anybody wants to take a look at this presentation in further depth or slower, it'll be up there. These things will be posted quickly. Well, by the time that we
25:28Speaker 2show you this podcast,
25:30Speaker 2this will be available. If anybody wants to look it up, go ahead.
25:34Speaker 2Study it. There's the last 2 pages here. It's just basically repeating what we have talked about, but in the single sheets
25:41Speaker 2for each of them, just a profile sheet on each 1 of these, HGH frag and
25:46Speaker 2AOD.
25:47Speaker 1Yeah, you're gonna get that. As we obviously, as we grow, the no brainer here is we're gonna continue to add to it and add to it. That channel is gonna be awesome. Now, 1st and foremost,
25:56Speaker 1it has a rad community. Over 6,000 people have joined in a matter of roughly 3 weeks, which we are even kind of blown away by it.
26:06Speaker 1And it's for the most part, people that are lifting each other up, people that are just very supportive and just have questions.
26:13Speaker 1On the front page,
26:14Speaker 1Will and I are both fairly busy and we try to do our best to continue to add more and more
26:20Speaker 1educational stuff
26:22Speaker 1all across the board. So there's gonna be a free version where you're in there and you're talking to people. You'll talk to a lot of our
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26:57Speaker 1Employees, and they're gonna be there. We won't be in there much. As you can imagine, my inbox is full. I'm sure yours is too, and I just there's too many questions. Like, just like my DMs, I do my best. So what we're trying to do is
27:09Speaker 1just some sections that, you know, free,
27:12Speaker 1you get the protocols there, then maybe like a $25 1 that has some perks. Then like the 60 a month, you're gonna have access to where there's gonna be less questions because you gotta pay for it. Will and I will answer those questions and you'll have a weekly call that will jump on.
27:26Speaker 1You're gonna get a big discount for peptides.
27:29Speaker 1There's a lot of positives that are gonna come. So I say that like this, you do you. We don't care if you sign up for that stuff. If you're looking to ask us questions, it's not like we think we're anything special. We just get a lot of them, obviously, because we're out there, our faces are out there, but you will have that contact
27:46Speaker 1contact with us directly
27:48Speaker 1in the elite, which we call and and with the cool thing that we love, we get to do some cool stuff that we wanted to do for a long time. We've talked about doing some
27:57Speaker 1podcasts
27:58Speaker 1on gear and stuff like that. We've debated it because we get a lot of questions,
28:03Speaker 1but we also have to walk the line and we have to powers that be that don't like that stuff. So on these channels, we're able to do it. And that stuff's tucked away in the elite. Will and I both did a
28:14Speaker 11 on
28:15Speaker 1some gear. I did the cutting stack, which was my favorite cutting stack. I used to, you know, we ran gear when we were young and I know a lot about them. We've studied them for years.
28:24Speaker 1So I broke my favorite cutting stack and then he did a he's not a bulker guy, but he did a bulking stack. He knows a lot about it. And it was cool, man. So you'll have some of that stuff for any of you guys that actually
28:35Speaker 1take that stuff. We're very aware of that's how life is.
28:39Speaker 1Yes. And a lot more to come. Right? Yeah. A lot more. We're gonna do cool stuff. We're gonna have Paul on, Doctor. Scott on, we're going to have, you know, different doctors that'll show up in that elite for maybe 30 minutes where we can, you can ask them questions, maybe get some Jay Campbell, Paul back to you, our big names, you know, where you can have direct.
28:56Speaker 1As you can imagine,
28:58Speaker 1we're going to charge for that.
29:00Speaker 2Yep. I'm sure you get it. So
29:01Speaker 2what would you rather, what would you do if everything
29:05Speaker 2was money and availability was equal? Would you prefer AOD
29:08Speaker 2or HGH frag?
29:12Speaker 1I just started taking the HGH frag. I probably will lean towards AOD just because I it's 1 of my top. I
29:18Speaker 1have taken it, I think it is the 3rd day and haven't taken it yet. Was gonna I'm not lifting today, but
29:24Speaker 1I haven't taken it yet. So I'll report back. I haven't taken it. So again, AOD is 1 of my favorite. I feel it. Now,
29:31Speaker 1I think when AOD shines is on the back of other compounds where they work well in a synergistic. Now, I'm a cutter guy. I like to be lean. I like to be ripped. So I love my 5Amino-1MQ's.
29:44Speaker 1I love SLU-PP-thirty
29:45Speaker 12. I'm not running rudder right now, but anything
29:49Speaker 1like that that's gonna cut you up. I think if you take a few different cutters,
29:54Speaker 1they just run-in a synergistic order where they're going to really work to burn that fat. You know, like, well, if you take AOD by itself and that's it, will it have as much power as some of the other ones? Probably not. But I think if you add it, it does throw that fire on top that just goes, oh! It's anti obesity drug. They named it that for a reason. The way I explain it to people, it's always very simple. It's the last piece of the HGH chain. No negatives. It just burns fat.
30:21Speaker 1And that's the only job that has. No negatives, no increase in IGF-one.
30:26Speaker 1So that's where I stand now. I will report back. Justin told me he had a boost of energy. I did not feel that,
30:32Speaker 1but it doesn't matter.
30:35Speaker 2Everybody's different. Yep, everybody's different. And like, here's the thing, like, you never know
30:40Speaker 2if you are a person, right, and like your HGH output is
30:45Speaker 2extra low and you've been trying to lose weight, right, maybe you've been effective with it and then you try this like, holy shit, it might just work incredibly well for you.
30:53Speaker 2Some people might not really much feel it, but
30:57Speaker 2I think you'll feel it. Like, it works. Yeah. I mean, it works for sure. Obviously.
31:01Speaker 2But yeah, sometimes some people just might be super reactors and
31:05Speaker 1some won't be. Don't go to the gym and have somebody say they took it and it sucked. That's their opinion. Right? Don't go to the gym and say, you need to take 2 50 mg of testosterone or like, listen. And if you listen to any other podcasts or any other guys out there, cool, do it all. If you ever have somebody that's telling you this is how it is and this is definitive, don't listen to that person. Like we don't, I don't pretend like we know it all. Just study and we try a lot of it. And like a lot of this stuff is firsthand
31:31Speaker 1knowledge of seeing a lot of people that do these things. I've used this example so many times. There's people that are living die. You need to take Retatrutide once a week, and this is why blah, blah.
31:40Speaker 1And we've seen very different because we've seen people to do that. It didn't work as good. And then they did microdose of 3 days when it was a Friday, and it worked a lot better. The only reason we know that is because we've seen it work. Didn't care how it reads.
31:54Speaker 1We've seen it. So just keep an open mind
31:57Speaker 1and try it. Try it.
32:00Speaker 1You've seen- Don't listen to Jim Bros all time. Not really, not There's not much downside. Yeah. These are safe.
32:06Speaker 2Right, well, good job. It
32:08Speaker 2is Friday.
32:10Speaker 1We got a lot going on around here.
32:12Speaker 1We got a lot going on around here. School, we're building that, it's going, it's going. We're gonna keep adding to it and we are always open for the people that are on there. If you have some suggestions, I've had some cool suggestions.
32:24Speaker 1Our goal is to make it as best as we possibly can and to give you guys what you want. You know, if we're able to do it, let's do it. So
32:32Speaker 1we're always evolving and growing and trying to get better and that's never going to stop.
32:37Speaker 1You know what mean? So
32:38Speaker 1other than that, next week we'll do the Q and A, and then we're thinking about having another guest on. Paul Backtr is in town.
32:47Speaker 1He's a good friend of ours. He's a keynote speaker actually right now in Dallas and he's flying into town next week. So we may have him on. We're not sure yet. We're gonna see if it works out. We might have him live for the 1st time, which would be rad. And that will be fun. He's a good friend of ours. We're planning on having roughly
33:03Speaker 1a guest every other week. That's kind of the goal we're trying to set up. We do have a lot of people emailing in and wanting to come on the show. So we're I haven't talked to you about that, but I wanna have maybe 1 of our staff kind of start to vet that and
33:15Speaker 1because there are some really good people out there. My emails are just I can't sort through it all. It's getting lost. Well, doc doctor Sam Orgey,
33:21Speaker 2I think that's how I say it. But he's coming in 2 weeks.
33:24Speaker 2Sweet. He'll be here. Perfect. 30th. 30th.
33:27Speaker 1Yep. Cool. 30th.
33:29Speaker 2In studio.
33:30Speaker 2Yeah. And he does yeah, I don't know. We'll let him tell, but like he is well, so he's the 1 who did my, like, hair transplant. He's an but he's also an ER surgeon.
33:39Speaker 2Oh. And in his younger life in med school and as an early doctor was like DJing at clubs after his night shifts
33:47Speaker 1at the ER. Super cool guy. Remember when 1st met him. He's cool. Wow, that will be a fun conversation
33:52Speaker 1because,
33:55Speaker 1dude, that would be cool if they start using-0s): Oh, and he's starting a telehealth,
33:58Speaker 2starting like a telehealth company called
34:02Speaker 2Summer.
34:03Speaker 1Yeah.
34:04Speaker 1Summer. Well, think about peptides
34:06Speaker 1within an ER.
34:08Speaker 1That would be cool. I was telling Will this story, I told the team that my doctor, who I actually love, I've been going to him for 30 years, he has seen me through a lot and he's a doctor that I really trust. He calls me and checks on me. That's what he was doing yesterday. He was just calling me. I get this crap in my throat all the time, so he was just seeing how I was.
34:26Speaker 1And he just
34:27Speaker 1said, People are just talking about peptides left and right, left and right. And I've been talking about them for years. And he finally said, Maybe we should sit down and talk about peptides. Duh.
34:36Speaker 1Life is changing. The world is changing, baby.
34:39Speaker 1So, but good stuff. So we'll catch you next week. Take care, guys. Good night.