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1:09Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of Week podcast.
1:12Speaker 1I am your host JD Denham.
1:14Speaker 1Like always across the way, Mr. William T. Haas. How are doing? We got matching shirts on today. Yeah. We got dope shirts, dude. I like these shirts.
1:23Speaker 1It's getting warm. Right? It's getting warm.
1:28Speaker 1Have so many, like, lovers and haters on my comments
1:31Speaker 1and I wore a shirt the other day, a full shirt, and posted something and some guy goes, Now you're finally acting like dressing like a man or something like that. I'm
1:41Speaker 1damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't, but I got a kind of cool little story. So
1:46Speaker 1you and I work hard, everybody here works hard.
1:49Speaker 1When you're driven, it's some times it comes to catch 22 because you get so focused and razor focused. You have goals, you wanna achieve them and what not. And the other day my bride comes downstairs and she was a little upset, you know, and she was just kind of basically telling me that she wanted more time with me. And it's funny, the reason I say this to you is
2:09Speaker 1we learned in Alcoholics Anonymous that we are not responsible for our 1st thought, we're responsible for our 2nd thought. So my 1st thought, and I did started
2:17Speaker 1I did actually respond in that 1st thought, which was, this is why I do it all for you and started being defensive. And mid
2:23Speaker 1mid sentence, I caught myself.
2:25Speaker 1I thought of that as I was talking and then realized that my beautiful bride
2:30Speaker 1just wants to spend time with me. And what am I complaining about? So it was cool, but it was kind of cool how, and this is the reason I'm saying this, so it was kind of cool how we fixed it. It was just kind of a fluke that like has turned into something that's been pretty rad. She was going to some like yoga sculpt things that she loves to do.
2:47Speaker 1And I was, she said, Why don't you come with me to that tonight? And I'm like,
2:51Speaker 1okay. You know, it wouldn't have been my 1st,
2:54Speaker 1like, response. If it was a different day, would have probably been, no. We'll
2:57Speaker 1wait for dinner. Like, we'll go to different another day. But anyways, I went because she was upset and I was trying to just spend some time with her and dude, it was freaking rad. I was blown away. I didn't know what I was getting into.
3:08Speaker 1It was, I thought it was like at least bead rooms where I like to sweat and like it's working out sweating.
3:13Speaker 1It has a lot of hit flare
3:15Speaker 1and I was going to insert it into more hit anyway to get kind of like more ripped and dude, nothing like doing that type of stuff in a row. You feel amazing. I walked out there and felt like 1000000 bucks, bro. I felt so good. I've gone 3 times since we're going tonight, Sarah's coming and it's going to be kind of our new thing, like 4 nights a week, spend some time together
3:34Speaker 1in a workout class.
3:36Speaker 1That's dope, dude. So
3:38Speaker 1there you go, gentlemen. Maybe if you're into fitness,
3:41Speaker 3include your bride or something creative. It worked out well. Yes. And I think a class is a good 1. I mean, that's so hard. I've gone to those before and I've made the mistake also. Think Jimmy Quinn, we were just talking to him earlier today. Cocky. He's like, yeah, I've made the mistake for sure grabbing the heavy weights.
3:57Speaker 3Bad idea. Was like,
4:00Speaker 3I'll go, but I'm grabbing the 2 and a halfs. Like all you ladies, you understand how heavy these arms are already, And
4:08Speaker 3just doing yoga in general, but it's not yoga. It's basically like you're lifting weights in a song. They call it yoga, I there's no mean, I guess there's some stretching.
4:15Speaker 1But dude, it was great. The workout's amazing. I feel like I've already worked and just it's worked already and cutting some fat off me in 3 days. So, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so But I and I agree. I have the same problem at home with
4:31Speaker 3my woman wanting,
4:33Speaker 3yes, wanting to spend time with me. Wants
4:36Speaker 3me to
4:37Speaker 3come home
4:38Speaker 3earlier and gets a little upset sometimes when I come home and then work the rest of the night. And absolutely, like,
4:45Speaker 3she just wants to see me and frankly telling me like, Get to bed early, or don't
4:51Speaker 3work so hard. And really, she's right, and maybe that's why that makes me Because there is, I mean, she does want the best for me. Yeah. She's just trying to Right. Because that's not a sustainable
5:01Speaker 3way to live.
5:02Speaker 3For sure. Nor does it Yeah, you gotta just And even then, like I get more productive if I do give my brain
5:10Speaker 3breaks. Yeah, for sure. Like just
5:12Speaker 3completely tune out and like focus on something else.
5:16Speaker 3But I do the same thing also, which said, look,
5:19Speaker 3do you think, like I would much rather be laying here on the couch
5:24Speaker 3with you doing absolutely nothing or sitting by the pool than working, okay? I'm not going, I'm not like, you know, do you think It's like you think I'm going to the bar with my friends or something.
5:35Speaker 3Like, this is not what's happening.
5:37Speaker 3I'm doing this not
5:39Speaker 3by choice. I mean, ultimately I have free will,
5:43Speaker 3this but is all for, it needs to be done. And this is all for- Employees now to build their lives. Right, yeah. So I got other people's lives in front of me. And you guys, you want a good life?
5:53Speaker 3But
5:54Speaker 3there's a good mix between there. Yeah, always balanced. And I've said so like, yo, I would
6:00Speaker 3love your support. But
6:02Speaker 3also
6:03Speaker 3I will try, I'll do better, I will listen to you. Not just gonna be my way or the highway, and then you will like it or not.
6:10Speaker 3But I'll try to get her to
6:12Speaker 1think 1 of the things that
6:15Speaker 1I've learned in marriage, especially with my wife, she's just my perfect equal.
6:20Speaker 1And sometimes if I tend to be hot headed at times, she's my voice of reason where she's like, Hey, you know, calm down a little bit. That's good because I need to hear that. For me,
6:30Speaker 1you know, my wife, she's like,
6:32Speaker 1God put me in her life to save her from a lot of stuff. She trusts way too many people way too fast. I've
6:38Speaker 1saved her quite a few times. So it's a good-
6:40Speaker 3hard not to be happy around her. She's like having a golden retriever at home. Yeah,
6:46Speaker 1actually a good way to put it. My wife's like that. She just wants some attention. Well,
6:50Speaker 1that's why she was like
6:53Speaker 1like you started to shed a tear, which my wife is a crier.
6:57Speaker 1And I caught myself and was like, I'm getting pissed off because she ended up defending myself because my beautiful wife wants to spend time with me. Like,
7:06Speaker 1geez. I'm not good at
7:08Speaker 1wanting to regurgitate my day though.
7:11Speaker 1She wants to hear my day. She truly wants to. And I just lived it. I don't really want to revisit it. Like how's your day? It was pretty good. It's good. I just spent all day teaching people how to do something and explaining things. The last thing I want to do is re explain those same things.
7:27Speaker 1But the point is we both, all men, have to leave some room for
7:32Speaker 1that. And there's a give or take where you got to open up a little bit because that's all they want. Yep. And it
7:38Speaker 1helps
7:39Speaker 3the explaining of the day, I guess, does help when
7:42Speaker 3and my girls actually got really good with this and I kinda haven't budged. So she was the 1 who moved a little bit more, was texting me throughout the day and wanted to have an ongoing conversation all day long. She does? She used to. Yeah, that's what Liz is. I'm like, I just can't do that. That's a lot. What am I gonna talk to you about when I come home if I give you a legit 5 minute play by play It's all day
8:02Speaker 1no mystery yet. You hire her best friends, that's what we did. We hired my wife's best friend.
8:07Speaker 1So now they talk all day. And so my wife and I go home, she goes, Oh, I heard this and this and this. And I was like, Yeah. You know, so I don't have to say that.
8:15Speaker 3There you go, fellas. Built gin. Hire her best friend.
8:18Speaker 3You know, I have read some things where it's like, women,
8:22Speaker 3you have girlfriend, like biologically,
8:24Speaker 3physiologically, right? You have girlfriends
8:27Speaker 3who also share the same mental,
8:30Speaker 3emotional space and needs.
8:32Speaker 3This is why you have girlfriends. The girlfriends are there to do this, to talk to, to have you along with The emotional side. Talks about, yeah. And just to have your quality just talk, talk, I don't even know what you're gonna talk about. Who cares? Do it. But that is not your man is not gonna be good at that. No. Hopefully.
8:50Speaker 3And he's not gonna be good at You're never gonna be happy with that because he's not just going to be good at Quit forcing him to do that. Use
8:56Speaker 3your girlfriends for that. 100. And use your man for what he is meant to do. I don't wanna talk about that fufu shit.
9:03Speaker 3No. It's just gonna upset you because I like talk about this. Yeah.
9:07Speaker 1I'm not happy to some of our friends, man, some of the conversations they have though, and some do like to talk about that. I'm like, You guys talk about that? He's like, I don't talk about any of that stuff. My wife too. I know, but I don't want to talk about any of that dude, so I won't.
9:21Speaker 3Also wonder, like you see in movies or people like, Oh,
9:25Speaker 3my husband wasn't there for the kid because he was so busy out traveling, making
9:29Speaker 3money and working really hard.
9:31Speaker 3I often wonder like, I don't know,
9:35Speaker 3how close I
9:37Speaker 3am to that, which I don't think I'm close at all to like ruining a marriage, right? And I wonder if anybody
9:43Speaker 3who is literally who's working all the time
9:47Speaker 3can still have a great marriage,
9:50Speaker 3How do they handle that with their wives? Do they just learn to ignore it and there's gonna be some complaining? Because it strikes me that every woman
9:58Speaker 3is gonna ask the same thing
10:00Speaker 3of their husbands.
10:02Speaker 1Lys is really good at that stuff. She knows when I'm working, I need to work. She's probably
10:06Speaker 1best of anybody
10:07Speaker 1that I know she knows. And she stays home, so she's supported and like she knows that the cards are always gonna be on and that's huge. I saw some
10:15Speaker 1posts the other day that there's some people starting to think talk like that. It was about how you can either have super driven man who's gonna have a business who's successful and he's gonna be working 365
10:26Speaker 1days even on Christmas, and you gotta realize that, or you can have a man at home that's a baby and you gotta take care of a baby, which 1 you want. Right. And I was like, that is dope. I sent it to my wife. Yeah. See?
10:35Speaker 3And I
10:36Speaker 3felt her like, okay, it's just not possible for me to go, all right, I'll work 20% less. Either
10:43Speaker 1I either do what needs to be done or I don't. Right. And then you have nothing. Don't have multiple people counting on you for their paychecks. When you're in Hawaii, I gotta work some. Yeah. Exactly. And she's cool with that. And she is cool with that. She's learning and understanding
10:57Speaker 3and
10:58Speaker 0and learning really that I'm not doing this. Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox, that's high performance loving.
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11:30Speaker 3I'm not, yeah, I'm not hanging out with my friends at the bar. Like, I don't want I don't necessarily want to be doing. Now I I actually love my work more than I I know. Me too. I'm like, when I'm out here, I'm like thinking about working drag, but I love what we do. But I would rather just be hanging out.
11:45Speaker 1Yeah. I think. At the end of the day though, they say like, if you do something you love, like shit dude, I can't even think of another job that I would even take. I know. If I could take another job, any job in the world that like gave me the same financial position,
11:57Speaker 1I still wouldn't I use this do when I'm not working, I'm thinking about being at work and doing different stuff. I think that's a good life right there. Yeah, I agree. And providing for other people. It's good shit. It is. Yep. Being creative and creating things. Good shit. So today's a good day. We're going to talk about 2
12:14Speaker 1compounds that are very similar. There are a
12:17Speaker 1piece of the human growth hormone chain. They're the last pieces, I think 15 and 16.
12:23Speaker 1So frag
12:25Speaker 1176
12:26Speaker 1to 191
12:27Speaker 1is 15. And then you got the AOD, which is going to be that last amino acid. So slight, slight, slight different, very similar, but some
12:36Speaker 1very There's some similar, couple
12:38Speaker 1things that are a little different.
12:40Speaker 1So
12:41Speaker 1think it over, man. Show All us a little bit about what
12:46Speaker 3right, so 1st of all, I guess those of you, whoever it is on your screen, we can see it. But
12:51Speaker 31st things 1st, HGH frag, okay, HGH frag 176
12:55Speaker 3to 191. That is the name of that
12:58Speaker 31. And then we have AOD-nine
13:00Speaker 3thousand 604,
13:01Speaker 3which is AOD stands for anti obesity
13:04Speaker 3drug.
13:06Speaker 3HGH fragment,
13:07Speaker 3176,
13:08Speaker 3because it is a fragment of the HGH chain, right? HGH is the human
13:14Speaker 3full amino acid profiles, 191 amino acids, okay?
13:19Speaker 3The frag is 176 through 191, AOD is basically 177
13:23Speaker 3through 191, 1st
13:27Speaker 3things,
13:28Speaker 3let's see. So FRAG,
13:30Speaker 3it is So FRAG is the natural, here's the quick differences. So FRAG is the actual
13:37Speaker 3natural 176 through 191, okay? It is that they just cut the rest of the HGH out, it was created because that part of chain is the fat burning part, okay? That is the part that is
13:49Speaker 3responsible for lipolysis,
13:51Speaker 3right? Lipolysis, lipids, fat, okay?
13:55Speaker 3And metabolic
13:56Speaker 3boosting, but the whole goal is to burn fat while not having any of that growth potential of the Any negatives. Any negatives, any IGF-one
14:04Speaker 3boost.
14:05Speaker 3Yep.
14:07Speaker 3Any potential, like if we're worried about cancer, you're worried about growing things like this stuff literally will not
14:12Speaker 3make any effect on that. It's a lot. Not gonna help
14:15Speaker 3with growth, with
14:18Speaker 3growing any cancer, No
14:21Speaker 3causing of hypoglycemia,
14:23Speaker 3anything like that. The safety profile on both of these is extremely good. You will see them come in at 5 mg usually because they both do not like water. Okay? AOD, it's it's right, don't like water. You don't wanna get a high milligram bottle because regardless of the AOD, acetic acid water you put in there, it's not gonna last long. So 5 mgs is what I would suggest if you ever buy a bottle of this stuff.
14:49Speaker 3Next is your AOD.
14:51Speaker 3Damn similar, okay? So the quick difference is AOD
14:56Speaker 3is basically laboratory engineered,
14:59Speaker 3whereas the HGH frag is natural, is those natural amino acids. AOD is made in the laboratory
15:06Speaker 3and it is designed to last longer in a person's body, and
15:12Speaker 3therefore be a little bit safer. It's basically designed to
15:16Speaker 3work more as an actual drug. It's a modified form of the HGH fragment. Also, 1 thing to note, you'll see here, right?
15:23Speaker 3AOD-nine
15:24Speaker 3604 received the GRAS generally recognized as safe status from the FDA in 2014,
15:30Speaker 3a milestone that distinguishes it from most
15:34Speaker 3research peptides.
15:35Speaker 3Safe. The other thing that's really interesting is this guy,
15:39Speaker 3the cartilage. So when
15:41Speaker 3reading and doing research, there is the potential of cartilage repair
15:45Speaker 3with AOD
15:46Speaker 1and joint cartilage nowhere to be found with HGH frag. Yeah, cool thing too, for a shout out, because we have so many Aussies
15:53Speaker 1out there.
15:54Speaker 1Shout out to you guys. It was developed in Australia. So Monash University is where that came from. That's in Australia. So late nineties to 2 thousands. So I know you Aussies love to listen to this show, so there you go. This was started in your country. In your country. So benefits, okay? So really, like, they're all basically the same benefits. Okay?
16:16Speaker 3Attack
16:17Speaker 3attacking abdominal visceral regions, right? Which is great. Which is good. That's the increased energy expenditure. So your metabolism, not only is it gonna target fat, but it's gonna boost your metabolism, which burns calories everywhere and therefore
16:32Speaker 3fat.
16:33Speaker 3It's not gonna have any effect on your glucose or any meaningful effect on your glucose or IGF-one levels. So again, the TAD HGH frag has been around for a long time. Bodybuilders have been using this stuff for a long, long time.
16:46Speaker 3And then recently
16:48Speaker 3they went into, then they started creating this AOD, which is now having more
16:52Speaker 3human trials. Still, most of the clinical data is on animal
16:57Speaker 3data, but some
16:59Speaker 3study highlights
17:02Speaker 3this is AOD, consistently shows 50%
17:04Speaker 3greater fat reduction versus controls with both peptides.
17:09Speaker 3Obese participants lost significantly more body fat versus placebo over 12 weeks.
17:14Speaker 3It works and we have some
17:18Speaker 31st person experience with it working.
17:21Speaker 1Yes, you're talking about the FRAG? Yes. Yeah, had a buddy of ours who just started taking it. It's newer to us, so I'm excited. I just actually started taking it as well. My buddy called me, he just started taking it. He's like, Man, I got so much energy and
17:34Speaker 1coincides with stuff that I've read from it. So it's like a little boost of energy
17:39Speaker 1because it's such a quick,
17:41Speaker 1it works so fast.
17:42Speaker 3So
17:43Speaker 3what to take with either of these and what not to take with them?
17:49Speaker 3Really the safety profile, I mean,
17:52Speaker 3of these are very safe. Some things to not do is, hey, don't inject insulin.
17:59Speaker 3You shouldn't do that shit anyway, folks. Don't
18:03Speaker 3take anabolic steroids concurrently.
18:05Speaker 3Probably shouldn't do that anyway.
18:07Speaker 3A lot of us do, but
18:09Speaker 3High dose corticosteroids,
18:11Speaker 3which is like the steroids for anti inflammation,
18:14Speaker 3and
18:14Speaker 3full dose HGH.
18:16Speaker 3Basically it may redundant, it's competing for the same receptor
18:21Speaker 3pathways and may like negate
18:24Speaker 3the safety profile
18:26Speaker 3of the AOD or
18:28Speaker 3HGHF.
18:29Speaker 3Almost think though it's like,
18:32Speaker 3well, how does it negate the safety profile? Well,
18:34Speaker 3you're giving yourself HGH, which is the whole point You're of the 1
18:39Speaker 1trying to take AOD and only AOD is maybe you want to avoid the rest of the HGH chain. Yeah, well, does it increase IGF-1s? I'm trying to find the logic in that because think about it, it's like to me,
18:50Speaker 1this is gonna go against what they're saying here, what if you're taking HGH, that's the fire, and you take the AOD,
18:56Speaker 1it's like taking
18:58Speaker 1a little extra extra Throwing it onto the fire, why would it not? I think that that is acceptable. I
19:04Speaker 3think what they're They're not throwing water on it. Look, look, the target okay,
19:08Speaker 3may negate
19:09Speaker 3the targeted safety
19:11Speaker 3advantage. So the targeted safety advantage of taking these is you get
19:16Speaker 3none of that growth portion of the HGH. Well, inherently, if you take HGH
19:21Speaker 3on top of this, you're now introducing
19:24Speaker 3what a person may be targetedly trying to avoid. So I don't think it's saying, Hey, these are gonna be that bad to take do with each other. It's just that if you're taking AOD for the reason of avoiding
19:36Speaker 3any of the negative problems with HGH,
19:38Speaker 3well, adding HGH brings back those problems. Anyway,
19:45Speaker 3so
19:46Speaker 3we have here a list like GLP-one agonist, right? Retatrasitide,
19:50Speaker 3semaglutide, absolutely take it. It's a great mix.
19:54Speaker 3Pretty much every other peptide I can think of is
19:58Speaker 3generally okay.
20:00Speaker 3Like, mean, a 1MQ,
20:01Speaker 3SLU- Any fat burner. Any fat burners are great. Anything else, L carnitine. SLU-. BPC-one
20:08Speaker 3hundred 57, Thymosin beta-four, right? They're talking about enhancing,
20:12Speaker 3I mean, if you're taking AOD and it has a little bit of cartilage repair effect, those 2 are really gonna enhance that.
20:19Speaker 3And the CJC- Epimrelin is going to boost your metabolism
20:24Speaker 3and is going to increase your, yes, fat burning and recovery. Because that's what Like they I said, it's not FDA approved, but it is FDA
20:33Speaker 1stamp of approval that is extremely safe.
20:35Speaker 1I mean, I've read
20:37Speaker 1different things from different
20:39Speaker 1articles and whatnot, and some people aren't big fans of it. It's in my top 5.
20:43Speaker 1I love AOD. I've been off it for a while,
20:47Speaker 1but it's, I love it. I think AOD is amazing. I mean, listen to the name, anti obesity The
20:54Speaker 3whole point was to, yes, Again, study that
20:57Speaker 3a bit
21:00Speaker 3the difference is, so
21:03Speaker 30.5 life, 30 minutes on HGH frag, right? 30 minute 0.5 life, it's gonna act, it's gonna get in you and out of you quicker. Okay, a lot of people, so both of them, you should be daily dosing.
21:12Speaker 3The frag, you can go twice a day if you feel like it. Hell, some people go 3 times a day. But 30 minutes
21:19Speaker 330 minutes 0.5 life versus AOD is 30 to 60 minutes.
21:24Speaker 3Okay? Of course. Not much. The only other difference, again, we've noted it, maybe maycipate supports joint
21:32Speaker 3health.
21:33Speaker 3AOD is 1 less amino acid
21:37Speaker 3and So damn close. It's so damn close.
21:40Speaker 3The big thing, so dosage protocols on here. Listen up, people. This is important. If you're gonna buy this, don't What miss this I do, and this is what I suggest a person does.
21:52Speaker 3You will see on this graphic, this is a bottle of, well, it's acidic acid, it's AOD water, okay?
22:00Speaker 3You can ask us where to get it and we can tell you. But it's acidic acid,
22:05Speaker 3bacterial static water essentially. This is what needs to be mixed
22:09Speaker 3into the HGH frag and AOD. They will gel up if you do not use this water. Get cloudy, gel up, yep.
22:18Speaker 3Maybe not immediately, but they will, even then, once you mix these things, guys, I would make sure you
22:23Speaker 3use the peptide within 2 weeks, if not, I mean, month, maybe the longest, but even with this water, you're still cutting it close and have a chance that it might gel off. So also,
22:34Speaker 3the logical
22:35Speaker 3mixture in a 5 mg bottle, I would normally tell a person to put 1 mill of water in, okay? Then you just get to inject less. You would inject 10 units,
22:45Speaker 3would
22:46Speaker 3give you 500 micrograms. But
22:49Speaker 3the more water, the better, okay? To prevent the potential gelling up, even with this water. So my suggestion is to add 2 mils of water. Yeah, 2 mils of water, 2 mils of water.
23:01Speaker 3Standard daily dose,
23:03Speaker 3500 micrograms, which would then equal 20 units.
23:07Speaker 3Yeah. Okay? Daily, both of them.
23:10Speaker 3HGH frag, you wanna get some extra fat burning, do it twice a day, evenly spaced out. Okay? Both
23:16Speaker 3of them should be fasted.
23:17Speaker 3Okay? Both doses, fasted. No carbs.
23:21Speaker 3You don't want any sugar
23:23Speaker 3kind of competing for the pathways. It will blunt anything that is HGH or dry from HGH. This is saying for the frag, either
23:31Speaker 1morning or pre workout. That's cool. Yeah.
23:34Speaker 1You take IGF-one after workout. After workout.
23:39Speaker 3I'd
23:40Speaker 3say 8 to 12 weeks for
23:42Speaker 3the frag, 12 to 16 weeks in the AOD, just because it lasts a bit longer.
23:49Speaker 3And then it's got a little bit better safety profile. So you could do it a little bit longer.
23:54Speaker 3Make sure that these things are refrigerated. I would add in,
23:58Speaker 3as always, room temp water.
24:00Speaker 3Okay. Room temp water into your cold peptide, peptide powder, lyophilase in the fridge,
24:06Speaker 3room temp AOD water, add it in there. Once it mix, put it in the fridge, make sure your fridge isn't too cold. Very true. Right, very important. Like too cold, halfway frozen, people
24:17Speaker 3It might look like it gelled up, but it's just really cold. But
24:20Speaker 3that's
24:21Speaker 1not gonna help it stay liquid. That does, just leave it out for like 20 minutes. You can still use it. People ask me, should I use it if it's cloudy? I've done it countless So
24:30Speaker 3there's your dosing guys, pretty straightforward.
24:33Speaker 3Max dose is I would say about 1000 micrograms.
24:36Speaker 3That would 28 in the morning, 9. Yeah. 1000 micrograms a day, max dose.
24:43Speaker 1Keep in mind that these are recommended doses. It doesn't mean you can't go less. It doesn't mean you can't do a Just little bit
24:52Speaker 1try it. I've always done AOD more. I've done more. It says max 600 micrograms, but I do 20 units in the morning and 20 units at night, and I've always been fine. I love it. So Yep.
25:01Speaker 3That is absolutely just as late, I mean, ladies, I'd probably start with 2 50 micrograms. You're
25:08Speaker 3bigger person, you can handle more, that's just as a general rule. So that's it, we have some, everybody
25:15Speaker 3who doesn't know, we have a
25:18Speaker 3community for this podcast on school.
25:21Speaker 3And these, if anybody wants to take a look at this presentation in further depth or slower,
25:27Speaker 3it'll be up there. These things will be posted quickly. Well, by the time that we
25:32Speaker 3show you this podcast,
25:33Speaker 3this will be available. If anybody wants to look it up, go ahead. Study it. There's the last 2 pages here. It's just basically repeating what we have talked about, but in the single sheets
25:44Speaker 3for each of them, just a profile sheet on each 1 of these, HGH frag and
25:49Speaker 1AOD. Yeah, you're gonna get that. As we obviously, as we grow, the no brainer here is we're gonna continue to add to it and add to it. That channel is gonna be awesome. Now, 1st and foremost,
26:00Speaker 1it has a rad community. Over 6,000 people have joined in a matter of roughly 3 weeks, which we are even kind of blown away by it.
26:09Speaker 1And it's for the most part, people that are lifting each other up, people that are just very supportive and just have questions. And on the front page, know, Will and I are both fairly busy, and we try to do our best to continue to add more and more
26:23Speaker 1educational stuff
26:25Speaker 1all across the board. So there's gonna be a free version where you're in there and you're talking to people. You'll talk to a lot of our Push your limits, train with precision,
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27:00Speaker 1Employees, and they're gonna be there. We won't be in there much. As you can imagine, my inbox is full. I'm sure yours is too, and I just there's too many questions. Like, just like my DMs, do my best. So what we're trying to do is
27:12Speaker 1just some sections that, you know, free,
27:15Speaker 1you get the protocols there, then maybe like a $25 1 that has some perks. And then like the 60 a month, you're gonna have access to where there's gonna be less questions because you gotta pay for it. And Will and I will answer those questions, and you'll have a weekly call that will jump on. So you're gonna get a big discount for peptides.
27:32Speaker 1There's a lot of positives that are gonna come. So I say that like this, you do you. We don't care if you sign up for that stuff. If you're looking to ask us questions, it's not like we think we're anything special. We just get a lot of them, obviously, because we're out there, our faces are out there, but you will have that contact
27:49Speaker 1contact with us directly
27:51Speaker 1in the elite, which we call. And with the cool thing that we love,
27:55Speaker 1we get to do some cool stuff that we wanted to do for a long time. We've talked about doing some
28:00Speaker 1podcasts
28:01Speaker 1on gear and stuff like that. We've debated it because we get a lot of questions,
28:06Speaker 1but we also have to walk the line and we have to powers that be that don't like that stuff. So on these channels, we're able to do it. And that stuff's tucked away in the elite. Will and I both did a
28:17Speaker 11 on
28:19Speaker 1some gear. I did the cutting stack, which was my favorite cutting stack. I used to, you know, we ran gear when we were young and I know a lot about them. We've studied them for years.
28:27Speaker 1So I broke my favorite cutting stack and then he did a he's not a bulker guy, but he did a bulking stack. He knows a lot about it.
28:47Speaker 1Doctor. Scott on, we're going to have, you know, different doctors that'll show up in that elite for maybe 30 minutes where we can, you can ask them questions, maybe get some Jay Campbell, Paul back to you, our big names,
28:57Speaker 1you know, where you can have direct.
28:59Speaker 1As you can imagine,
29:01Speaker 1we're going to charge for that.
29:03Speaker 1Yep. I'm sure you get it. So
29:05Speaker 3what would you rather what would you do if everything was money and availability was equal? Would you prefer AOD
29:12Speaker 3or HGH frag?
29:15Speaker 1I just started taking the HGH frag. I probably will lean towards AOD just because I it's 1 of my top. I
29:22Speaker 1have taken it, I think it is the 3rd day and I haven't taken it yet. Was gonna I'm not lifting today, but
29:27Speaker 1I haven't taken it yet. So I'll give I'll report back. I haven't taken it. So again, AOD is 1 of my favorite. I
29:33Speaker 1feel it. Now,
29:34Speaker 1I think when AOD shines is on the back of other compounds where they work well in a synergistic. Now, I'm a cutter guy. I like to be lean. I like to be ripped. So I love my 5Amino-1MQs.
29:48Speaker 1I love SLU-PP-thirty
29:49Speaker 12. I'm not running Retter right now, but anything
29:52Speaker 1like that that's going to cut you up. I think if you take a few different cutters,
29:57Speaker 1they just run-in a synergistic order where they're going to really work to burn that fat. You know, like, if you take AOD by itself and that's it, will it have as much power as some of the other ones? Probably not. But I think if you add it, it does throw that fire on top that just goes, Oh! It's anti obesity drug. They named it that for a reason. The way I explain it to people, it's always very simple. It's the last piece of the HGH, Shane. No negatives. It just burns
30:24Speaker 1fat. And And that's the only job that has. No negatives, no increase in IGF-one.
30:29Speaker 1So that's where I stand now. Will report back. Justin told me he had a boost of energy. I did not feel that,
30:36Speaker 1but it doesn't matter.
30:38Speaker 3Everybody's different. Yep. Everybody's different. And like, here's the thing, like, never know
30:43Speaker 3if you are a person, right, and like your HGH output is extra low and you've been trying to lose weight, right? Maybe you've been effective with it and then you try this, holy shit, it might just work incredibly well for you. Some people might
30:57Speaker 3not really much feel it, but
31:00Speaker 3I think you'll feel it. Like, it works. I mean, works for sure. But
31:05Speaker 3yeah, sometimes some people just might be super reactors and
31:08Speaker 1some opiate. Don't go to the gym and have somebody say they took it and it sucked.
31:13Speaker 1That's their opinion. Right? Don't go to the gym and say, you need to take 2 50 mg of testosterone or like, listen. And if you listen to any other podcasts or any other guys out there, cool, do it all. If you ever have somebody that's telling you this is how it is and this is definitive,
31:26Speaker 1don't listen to that person. Like we don't, I don't pretend like we know it all. We just study and we try a lot of it. And like a lot of this stuff is firsthand
31:34Speaker 1knowledge of seeing a lot of people that do these things. I've used this example so many times. There's people that are living die. You need to take Retatrutide once a week, and this is why blah, blah. And we've seen very different because we've seen people to do that. It didn't work as good. And then they did microdose of 3 days when it was a Friday, and it worked a lot better. The only reason we know that is because we've seen it work. It doesn't care how it reads.
31:57Speaker 1We've seen it. So just keep an open mind
32:00Speaker 1and try it. Try it.
32:03Speaker 1As you've seen- Don't listen to Jim Bros all the Not really, not There's not much downside.
32:08Speaker 3These are safe.
32:09Speaker 3Right, well, good job. It
32:12Speaker 3is Friday.
32:13Speaker 1We got a lot going on around here. We
32:16Speaker 1got a lot going on around here. School, we're building that. It's going, it's coming. We're going to keep adding to it. We are always open for the people that are on there. If you have some suggestions, I've had some cool suggestions. Our
32:28Speaker 1goal is to make it as best as we possibly can and to give you guys what you want, you know? If we're able to do it, let's do it. So we're
32:36Speaker 1always evolving and growing and trying to get better and that's never going to stop.
32:40Speaker 1You know I mean? So
32:42Speaker 1other than that, next week we'll do the Q and A, and then we're thinking about having another guest on. Paul Backtr is in town.
32:50Speaker 1He's a good friend of ours. He's a keynote speaker actually right now in Dallas and he's flying into town next week. We may have him on. We're not sure yet. We're gonna see if it works out. We might have him live for the 1st time, which would be rad. And
33:02Speaker 1that will be fun. He's a good friend of ours. We're planning on having roughly
33:07Speaker 1a guest every other week. That's kind of the goal we're trying to set up. We do have a lot of people emailing in and wanting to come on the show, so we're I haven't talked to you about that, but I wanna have maybe 1 of our staff kind of start to vet that and
33:18Speaker 1because there are some really good people out there. My emails are just, I can't sort through it all. It's getting that Well, doc doctor Sam Wargie,
33:25Speaker 3I think that's how I say it. But he's coming in 2 weeks.
33:28Speaker 12. He'll be here. Perfect. 30th. 30th. Atta boom. Yep. Cool. 30th.
33:32Speaker 3In studio.
33:33Speaker 3Yeah. It's always best. And he does yeah. I don't know. We'll let him tell, but, like, he is well, so he's the 1 who did my hair transplant,
33:40Speaker 3but he's also an ER surgeon.
33:42Speaker 1And
33:43Speaker 3in his younger life in med school and as an early doctor was like DJing at clubs after his night shifts
33:50Speaker 1at the ER. Super cool guy. Remember when 1st met him. He's cool. Wow.
33:54Speaker 1That will be a fun conversation
33:56Speaker 1because,
33:58Speaker 1dude, that would be cool if they start using it. Oh, he's starting a telehealth,
34:02Speaker 3starting like a telehealth company called
34:05Speaker 3Summer.
34:06Speaker 3Yeah.
34:07Speaker 1Summer. Well, think about
34:09Speaker 1peptides within an ER.
34:11Speaker 1That would be cool. I was telling Will this story, told the team that my doctor who I actually love, I've been going to him for 30 years, he has seen me through a lot, and he's a doctor that I really trust. He calls me and checks on me. That's what he was doing yesterday. Was just calling me. I get this crap in my throat all the time, so he was just seeing how I was.
34:29Speaker 1And he just
34:30Speaker 1said, People are just talking about peptides left and right, left and right. And I've been talking about them for years. And he finally said, Maybe we should sit down and talk about peptides. Like, Duh.
34:39Speaker 1Life is changing. The world is changing, baby.
34:43Speaker 1But good stuff. So we'll catch you next week.
34:45Speaker 1Take care guys. Good night.