Peptide of the Week: HGH Frag 176-191 vs AOD 9604 – The Fat Burning Fragments Explained Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-of-the-week-hgh-frag-176-191-vs-aod-9604-the-fat-burning-fragments-expla/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:01 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 0:04 Speaker 0: The space to go further, to feel better, 0:07 Speaker 0: to do something you never thought possible. 0:09 Speaker 0: And this space starts with ultra fit. 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I like these shirts. 1:20 Speaker 2: It's getting warm, right? It's getting warm. 1:24 Speaker 1: Have so many like lovers and haters on my comments, 1:28 Speaker 1: and I wore a shirt the other day, a full shirt, and posted something and some guy goes, now you're finally act acting like dressing like a man or something like that. I'm 1:38 Speaker 1: damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't, but I got a kind of cool little story. So 1:43 Speaker 1: you and I work hard, everybody here works hard. 1:46 Speaker 1: When you're driven, it's some times 1:48 Speaker 1: it comes to catch 22 because you get so focused and razor focused. You have goals, you want to achieve them and what not. And the other day my bride comes downstairs and she was a little upset, and 1:59 Speaker 1: she was just kind of basically telling me that she wanted more time with me. And it's funny, the reason I say this to you is we 2:06 Speaker 1: learned in Alcoholics Anonymous that we are not responsible for our 1st thought, we're responsible for our 2nd thought. So my 1st thought, and I did started 2:14 Speaker 1: I did actually respond in that 1st thought, which was, this is why I do it all for you and started being defensive. And 2:20 Speaker 1: mid mid sentence, I caught myself. I thought of that as I was talking and then realized that my beautiful bride 2:27 Speaker 1: just wants to spend time with me. What am I complaining about? So it was cool, but it was kind of cool how, and this is the reason I'm saying this. So it was kind of cool how we fixed it. It was just kind of a fluke that like has turned into something that's been pretty rad. She was going to some like yoga sculpt things that she loves to do. 2:43 Speaker 1: And I was, she said, Why don't you come with me to that tonight? And I'm like, 2:48 Speaker 1: okay. You know, it wouldn't have been my 1st, 2:50 Speaker 1: like, response. If it was a different day, would have probably been, no. 2:54 Speaker 1: We'll wait for dinner. Like, we'll go to different another day. But anyways, I went because she was upset and I was trying to just spend some time with her and dude, it was freaking rad. I was blown away. I didn't know what I was getting into. It was, I thought it was like, at least be Gibbons where I like to sweat and like it's working out sweating. 3:10 Speaker 1: It has a lot of hit flare 3:12 Speaker 1: and I was going to insert into more hit anyway to get kind of like more ripped and dude, nothing like doing that type of stuff in a row. 3:19 Speaker 1: You feel amazing. I walked out of there and felt like 1000000 bucks, bro. I felt so good. I've gone 3 times since we're going tonight, Sarah's coming and it's going to be kind of our new thing, like 4 nights a week, spend some time together in a workout class. 3:33 Speaker 1: That's dope, dude. So 3:35 Speaker 1: there you go, gentlemen, maybe if you're into fitness, 3:38 Speaker 1: include your bride or something creative. 3:41 Speaker 2: It worked out well. Yes. And I think a class is a good 1. I mean, that's just so hard. I've gone to those before and I've made the mistake also. Think Jimmy Queen, we were just talking to him earlier Cocky. 3:50 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I've made the mistake for sure grabbing the heavy weights. 3:54 Speaker 2: Bad idea. Was like, 3:56 Speaker 2: I'll go, but I'm grabbing the 2 and a halfs. Like all you ladies, you understand how heavy these arms are already, And 4:04 Speaker 2: just doing yoga in general, but it's not yoga. It's basically like you're lifting weights in a sauna. They call it yoga, there's no yoga. I mean, I guess there's some stretching. 4:12 Speaker 1: But dude, it was great. The workout's amazing. I feel like I've already worked and just it's worked already and cutting some fat off me in 3 days. So, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a But I, and I agree, I have the same problem at home with 4:28 Speaker 2: my woman wanting, 4:30 Speaker 2: yes, wanting to spend time with me. Doesn't know how she was. She wants me to, yeah, and she wants me to come home earlier and gets a little upset sometimes when I come home and then work the rest of the night. And absolutely, 4:42 Speaker 2: she just wants to see me and frankly telling me like, Get to bed early or 4:47 Speaker 2: don't work so hard. And really, she's right. And maybe that's why that makes me because there is I mean, she does want the best for me. But she's just trying to Right. Because that's not a sustainable 4:58 Speaker 2: way to live. 4:59 Speaker 2: For sure. Nor does it Yeah, you gotta just And even then, like I get more productive if I do give my brain 5:06 Speaker 2: breaks. Yeah. For sure. Like just completely tune out and like focus on something else. 5:12 Speaker 2: But I do the same thing also, which said, look, 5:16 Speaker 2: do you think, like I would much rather be laying here on the couch 5:20 Speaker 2: with you doing absolutely nothing or sitting by the pool than working, okay? I'm not going, I'm not like, 5:27 Speaker 2: do you think, it's like you think I'm going to the bar with my friends or something. 5:31 Speaker 2: Like this is not what's happening. 5:34 Speaker 2: I'm doing this not 5:36 Speaker 2: by choice. I mean, ultimately I have free will, 5:40 Speaker 2: this is all for, it needs to be done. And this is all for- Employees now and their families. Right, yeah. So I got other people's lives in front of me. And you guys, you want a good life, 5:50 Speaker 2: but 5:51 Speaker 2: there's a good mix between there. Yeah, it's always balanced. And I've said, 5:55 Speaker 2: so like, hey, yo, I 5:56 Speaker 2: would love your support. But 5:59 Speaker 2: also 6:00 Speaker 2: I will try, I'll do better, I will listen to you. Not just gonna get my way to the highway then you will like it or not. 6:07 Speaker 2: But I'll try to get her to 6:09 Speaker 1: think 1 of the things that 6:11 Speaker 1: I've learned in marriage, 6:13 Speaker 1: especially with my wife, she's just my perfect equal. 6:16 Speaker 1: And sometimes if I tend to be hot headed at times, she's my voice of reason where she's like, Hey, you know, calm down a little bit. That's good because I need to hear that. And for me, 6:27 Speaker 1: you know, my wife, she's like, 6:29 Speaker 1: God put me in her life to save her from a lot of stuff. She trusts way too many people way too fast. I've 6:35 Speaker 1: saved her quite a few times. So it's a good- 6:37 Speaker 2: hard to make me happy around her. She's like having a golden retriever at home. Yeah. That's 6:42 Speaker 1: actually a good way to put it. Wife's like that. She wants to make it home. 6:47 Speaker 1: That's why she was like 6:50 Speaker 1: like you started to shed a tear, which my wife is a crier and I caught myself and was like, I'm getting pissed off because she ended up defending myself because my beautiful wife wants to spend time with me. Like, 7:02 Speaker 1: geez. I'm not good at 7:05 Speaker 1: wanting to regurgitate my day though. 7:08 Speaker 1: She wants to hear my day, she truly wants to and I just lived it and don't really want to revisit it. Like how's your day? It was pretty good. It's good. I just spent all day teaching people how to do something and explaining things. The last thing I want to do is re explain those same things. But 7:24 Speaker 1: the point is we both, all men, have to leave some room for 7:29 Speaker 1: that. And there's a give or take where you gotta open up a little bit because that's all they want. Yep. And it 7:34 Speaker 1: helps 7:36 Speaker 2: The explaining of the day, I guess, does help when 7:39 Speaker 2: and my girls actually got really good with this and I kind of haven't budged. So she was the 1 who moved a little bit more, was texting me throughout the day and wanting to have an ongoing conversation all day long. She does? She used to. Yeah, that's what Liz is. I'm like, I just can't do that. That's a lie. What am I gonna talk to you about when I come home if I give you a legit 5 minute play by play all day long? 7:59 Speaker 1: You 8:00 Speaker 1: hire her best friend, so that's what we did. We hired my wife's best friend. And so now they talk all day. And so my wife and I go home, she goes, Oh, I heard this and this and this. And I was like, Yeah, you know, so I don't have to say this. Yep. 8:12 Speaker 1: You go, fellas. She filled gin. Hire her best friend. 8:15 Speaker 2: You know, I have read some things where it's like, Women, 8:19 Speaker 2: you have girlfriend, like biologically, 8:21 Speaker 2: physiologically, right? You have girlfriends 8:23 Speaker 2: who also share the same mental, 8:26 Speaker 2: emotional space and needs. 8:29 Speaker 2: This is why you have girlfriends. The girlfriends are there to do this, to talk to, 8:33 Speaker 2: have your long term thoughts The emotional side. Yeah. And just to have your quality just talk, talk, I don't even know what you're gonna talk about. Who cares? Do it. But that is not your man is not gonna be good at that. No. Hopefully. 8:47 Speaker 2: And he's not gonna be good at You're never gonna be happy with that because he's not just going to be good at Quit forcing him to do that. Use 8:53 Speaker 2: your girlfriends for that. 100. And use your man for what he is meant to do. I don't wanna talk about that fufu shit. 9:00 Speaker 2: No. It's just gonna upset you because I like Yeah. 9:04 Speaker 1: I'm not happy to I know some of our friends, man, some of the conversations they have though, and some do like to talk about that. I'm like, You guys talk about that? He's like, I don't talk about any of that stuff in my life too. I know, but I don't want to talk about any of that dude, so I won't. 9:17 Speaker 2: Also wonder, like you see in movies or people like, Oh, 9:22 Speaker 2: my husband wasn't there for the kid because he was so busy out traveling, making 9:26 Speaker 2: money and working really hard. 9:28 Speaker 2: I often wonder, 9:29 Speaker 2: I don't know, 9:32 Speaker 2: how close I 9:33 Speaker 2: am to that, which I don't think I'm close at all to like ruining a marriage, right? And I wonder if anybody 9:40 Speaker 2: who is literally who's working all the time 9:44 Speaker 2: can still have a great marriage, 9:47 Speaker 2: how do they handle that with their wives? Do they just learn to ignore it and there's gonna be some complaining? Because it strikes me that every woman is gonna ask the same thing 9:57 Speaker 2: of their husbands. 9:58 Speaker 1: Liz is really good at that stuff. She knows when I'm working, I need to work. She's probably best of 10:03 Speaker 1: anybody that I know she knows. And she stays home, so she's supported and like she knows that the cards are always gonna be on and that's huge. I saw some 10:12 Speaker 1: posts the other day that there's some people starting to think talk like that. It was about how you can either have super driven man who's gonna have a business who's successful and he's gonna be working 365 10:22 Speaker 1: days even on Christmas, and you gotta realize that. You can have a man at home that's a baby and you gotta take care of a baby, which 1 you want. Right. And I was like, that is dope. I sent it to my wife. Yeah. See? 10:32 Speaker 2: And I 10:33 Speaker 2: felt her like, okay, 10:35 Speaker 2: it's just not possible for me to go, all right, I'll work 20% less. It's either 10:40 Speaker 2: I either do what needs to be done or I don't. Right. And then you have nothing. 10:45 Speaker 2: Multiple people counting on you for their paychecks. When you're in Hawaii, I gotta work some. Yeah. Exactly. And she's cool with that. And she is cool with that. She's learning and and understanding and 10:55 Speaker 2: and learning really that I'm not doing this. 10:58 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 11:01 Speaker 0: The space to go further, 11:02 Speaker 0: to feel better, to do something you never thought possible. 11:06 Speaker 0: And this space starts with UltraFit. 11:09 Speaker 0: Unlike traditional running shoes, UltraFit gives toes more room to move naturally, 11:14 Speaker 0: so every step is strong, balanced, and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. 11:21 Speaker 0: Shop now at ultrarunning.com. 11:23 Speaker 0: That's altrarunning.com. 11:27 Speaker 2: I'm not, yeah, I'm not hanging out with my friends at the bar. Like, I don't want I don't necessarily want to be doing. No. I I actually love my work more than I I know. Me too. I'm like, when I'm out here, I'm like thinking about drag, working 11:38 Speaker 1: but I love what we do. But I would rather just be hanging out. Yeah. I think. At the end of the day, though, they say like, if you do something you love, like shit dude, I can't even think of another job that I would even take. If I could take another job, any job in the world that like gave me the same financial position, 11:54 Speaker 1: still do this job. Do when I'm not working. I'm thinking about being at work and doing different stuff. I think that's a good life right there. I agree. And providing for other people. It's good shit. It is. Yep. Being creative and creating things. Good shit. 12:07 Speaker 1: Today's a good day. We're going to talk about 2 12:11 Speaker 1: compounds that are very similar. There are a 12:14 Speaker 1: piece of the human growth hormone chain. They're the last pieces, I think 15 and 16. So frag 12:22 Speaker 1: 176 12:23 Speaker 1: to 191 12:24 Speaker 1: is 15. And then you got the AOD, which is going to be that last amino acid. So slight, slight, slight different, very similar, but some 12:33 Speaker 1: very There's some similar, a couple things that are a little different. 12:36 Speaker 1: So 12:37 Speaker 1: take it over, man. Show us a little bit about what you have. 12:42 Speaker 2: All right, so 1st of all, I guess those of you, whoever it is on your screen, we can see it. But 12:48 Speaker 2: 1st things 1st, HGH frag, okay, HGH frag 176 12:52 Speaker 2: to 191. That is the name of that 12:55 Speaker 2: 1. And then we have AOD-nine 12:57 Speaker 2: thousand 604, 12:58 Speaker 2: which is AOD stands for anti obesity 13:01 Speaker 2: drug. 13:02 Speaker 2: HGH fragment, 13:04 Speaker 2: 176, 13:04 Speaker 2: because it is a fragment of the HGH chain. Right? HGH is the human 13:11 Speaker 2: full amino acid profiles, 191 amino acids, okay? 13:15 Speaker 2: The FRAG is 176 through 191, AOD is basically 177 13:20 Speaker 2: through 191, 1st 13:23 Speaker 2: things, 13:25 Speaker 2: let's see. So FRAG, 13:27 Speaker 2: it is so FRAG is the natural here's 13:31 Speaker 2: the quick differences. So FRAG is the actual natural 176 13:35 Speaker 2: through 191. Okay? Is that they just cut the rest of the HGH out, it was created, because that part of chain 13:42 Speaker 2: is the fat burning part, okay? That is the part that is responsible 13:46 Speaker 2: for lipolysis, 13:48 Speaker 2: right? Lipolysis, lipids, fat, okay? 13:52 Speaker 2: And metabolic boosting, but the whole goal is to burn fat while not having any of that growth potential of the HGH. Any negatives. Any negatives, any IGF-one 14:01 Speaker 2: boost. 14:02 Speaker 2: Yep. 14:03 Speaker 2: Any potential, like if we're worried about cancer, you're worried about growing things like this stuff literally will not 14:09 Speaker 2: make any effect on that. Yeah, it's a lot. It's not gonna help 14:12 Speaker 2: with growth, with, yeah, with growing any cancer, No etcetera, 14:17 Speaker 2: causing of hypoglycemia, 14:20 Speaker 2: anything like that. The safety profile of both of these is extremely good. You will see them come in at 5 mg usually because they both do not like water. Okay? AOD, HGH frag don't like water. You don't wanna get a high milligram bottle because regardless of the AOD, acetic acid water you put in there, it's not gonna last long. So 5 mgs is what I would suggest to you if you ever buy a bottle of this stuff. 14:46 Speaker 2: Next is your AOD. 14:47 Speaker 2: Damn similar, okay? So the quick difference is AOD 14:53 Speaker 2: basically laboratory engineered, 14:56 Speaker 2: whereas the HGH frag is natural, 14:59 Speaker 2: is those natural amino acids. AOD is made in the laboratory 15:03 Speaker 2: and it is designed to last longer in a person's body, and 15:09 Speaker 2: therefore be a little bit safer. It's basically designed to 15:12 Speaker 2: work more as an actual drug. It's a modified form of the HGH fragment. Also, 1 thing to note, you'll see here, right? 15:20 Speaker 2: AOD-nine thousand 604 received 15:22 Speaker 2: the GRAS generally recognized as safe status from the FDA in 2014, 15:27 Speaker 2: a milestone that distinguishes it from most 15:30 Speaker 2: research peptides. 15:32 Speaker 2: Safe. The other thing that's really interesting is this guy, 15:36 Speaker 2: the cartilage. So when reading and doing research, there is the potential of cartilage repair 15:42 Speaker 2: with AOD 15:43 Speaker 2: and joint cartilage nowhere to be found Yeah, with HGH 15:46 Speaker 2: cool thing too, for a shout out, because we have so many Aussies 15:49 Speaker 2: out there. 15:51 Speaker 2: Shout out to you guys. It was developed in Australia. So Monash University 15:56 Speaker 2: is where that came from. That's in Australia. 15:58 Speaker 2: Late nineties to 2 thousands. So I know you Aussies love to listen to this show. So there you go. This was started in your country. In your country. So benefits, okay? So really, like, they're all basically the same benefits. Okay? 16:12 Speaker 2: Attack 16:13 Speaker 2: attacking abdominal visceral regions, right? Which is great. Which is good. That's the increased energy expenditure, so your metabolism, not only is it gonna target fat, but it's gonna boost your metabolism, which burns calories everywhere, 16:27 Speaker 2: and therefore 16:28 Speaker 2: fat. 16:30 Speaker 2: It's not gonna have any effect on your glucose or any meaningful effect on your glucose or IGF-one levels. So again, the TAD HGH frag has been around for a long time. Bodybuilders have been using this stuff for a long, long time. 16:43 Speaker 2: And then recently 16:44 Speaker 2: they went into, then they started creating this AOD, which is now having more 16:49 Speaker 2: human trials. Still, most 16:51 Speaker 2: of the clinical data is on animal 16:53 Speaker 2: data, but some 16:56 Speaker 2: study highlights consistently shows, this is AOD, consistently shows 50% 17:01 Speaker 2: greater fat reduction 17:02 Speaker 2: versus controls with both peptides. 17:05 Speaker 2: Obese participants lost significantly more body fat versus placebo over 12 weeks. 17:11 Speaker 2: It works, and we have 17:15 Speaker 2: some 1st person experience with it working. 17:17 Speaker 1: Yes, so you're talking about the frag? Yes. Yeah, we had a buddy of ours who just started taking it. It's newer to us, so I'm excited. I just actually started taking it as well. My buddy called me, he just started taking it. He's like, Man, I got so much energy 17:30 Speaker 1: and 17:31 Speaker 1: coincides with stuff that I've read from it. So it's like a little boost of energy 17:36 Speaker 1: because it's such a quick, 17:37 Speaker 1: it works so fast. 17:39 Speaker 2: So 17:40 Speaker 2: what to take with either of and 17:44 Speaker 2: what not to take with them. 17:46 Speaker 2: Really the safety profile, 17:48 Speaker 2: I mean, 17:49 Speaker 2: of these are very safe. Some things to not do is, hey, 17:54 Speaker 2: don't inject insulin. 17:55 Speaker 2: You shouldn't do that shit anyway, folks. Don't 18:00 Speaker 2: take anabolic steroids concurrently. 18:02 Speaker 2: Probably shouldn't do that anyway. 18:03 Speaker 2: A lot of us do, but 18:06 Speaker 2: High dose corticosteroids, 18:07 Speaker 2: which is like the steroids for anti inflammation, 18:10 Speaker 2: and full dose HGH. 18:13 Speaker 2: Basically it may redundant, it's competing for the same receptor pathways and may like negate the safety profile 18:23 Speaker 2: of the AOD 18:24 Speaker 2: or HGH frag. I almost think though it's like, 18:28 Speaker 2: well, how does it negate the safety profile? Well, you're giving yourself HGH, which is the whole point It's like of wanting 18:34 Speaker 2: you're 18:35 Speaker 1: trying to take AOD and only AOD is maybe you want to avoid the rest of the HGH chain. Yeah, well it doesn't increase IGF-one, so I I'm trying to find the logic in that because think about it, it's like to me, 18:46 Speaker 1: this is gonna go against what they're saying here, but if you're taking HGH, that's the fire, and you take the AOD, 18:53 Speaker 1: it's like taking 18:55 Speaker 1: a little extra Extra extra on to the fire, why would it have not? I think that that is acceptable. I 19:00 Speaker 2: think what they're They're throwing water on it. Look, look, the target okay. 19:04 Speaker 2: May negate the targeted safety 19:07 Speaker 2: advantage. So the targeted safety advantage of taking these is you get 19:12 Speaker 2: none of that growth portion of the HGH. 19:15 Speaker 2: Well, inherently, if you take HGH 19:18 Speaker 2: on top of this, you're now introducing 19:21 Speaker 2: what a person may be targetedly trying to avoid. So I don't think it's saying, Hey, these are gonna be that bad to take do with each other. It's just that if you're taking AOD 19:31 Speaker 2: for the reason of avoiding 19:33 Speaker 2: any of the negative problems with HCG, 19:35 Speaker 2: well, adding HGH brings back those problems. Anyway, 19:42 Speaker 2: so 19:43 Speaker 2: we have here a list like GLP-one agonist, right? Retatrzeptide, 19:47 Speaker 2: semaglutide, absolutely take it. It's 19:49 Speaker 2: a great mix. 19:51 Speaker 2: Pretty much every other peptide I can think of is 19:55 Speaker 2: generally okay. 19:56 Speaker 2: 5 m 1MQ, 19:58 Speaker 2: SLU- Any fat burner. Any fat burners are great. Anything else, L carnitine, SLU-. BPC-one 20:05 Speaker 2: hundred 57, Thymosin beta-four, right? They're talking about enhancing, 20:09 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're taking AOD and it has a little bit of cartilage repair effect, those 2 are really gonna enhance that. 20:16 Speaker 2: And the CJC- Epimrelin is going to boost your metabolism and 20:21 Speaker 2: is going to increase your fat 20:23 Speaker 2: burning and recovery. 20:25 Speaker 2: Is that something Like they 20:26 Speaker 1: I said, it's not FDA approved, but it is FDA stamp of approval that is extremely safe. 20:32 Speaker 1: I mean, I've read 20:33 Speaker 1: different things from 20:35 Speaker 1: different articles and whatnot, and some people aren't big fans of it. It's in my top 5. 20:40 Speaker 1: I love AOD. I've been off it for a while, 20:44 Speaker 1: but it's, I love it. I think AOD is amazing. I mean, listen to the name, anti obesity The 20:50 Speaker 2: whole point was to, yes, Again, study 20:54 Speaker 2: that a bit 20:56 Speaker 2: the difference is, 20:59 Speaker 2: 0.5 life, 30 minutes on HGH frag, right? 30 minute 0.5 life, it's going to act, it's going to get in you and out of you quicker. Okay? A lot of people, so both of them, should be daily dosing. 21:09 Speaker 2: The FRAG, you can go twice a day if you feel like it. Hell, some people go 3 times a day. But 30 21:16 Speaker 2: minutes 0.5 life versus AOD is 30 to 60 minutes. 21:21 Speaker 2: K? Close. Not much. The only other difference, again, we've noted it, maybe may support some joint 21:28 Speaker 2: health. 21:30 Speaker 2: AOD is 1 less amino acid. 21:34 Speaker 2: And So damn close. So damn close. 21:37 Speaker 2: The big thing, so dosage protocols on here. Listen up people, this is important. If you're going to buy this, don't This miss this is what I do, and this is what I suggest a person does. 21:49 Speaker 2: You will see on this graphic, 21:51 Speaker 2: this is a bottle of, well, 21:54 Speaker 2: acetic acid, it's AOD water, okay? 21:57 Speaker 2: You can ask us where to get it and we can tell you, but it's acetic acid, 22:01 Speaker 2: bacterial static water essentially. This is what needs to be mixed 22:06 Speaker 2: into the HGH frag and AOD. 22:08 Speaker 2: Alright, they will gel up if you do not use this water. Get cloudy, gel up, yep. 22:14 Speaker 2: Maybe not immediately, but they will even then, once you mix these things, guys, I would make sure you use the peptide within 2 weeks, if not, I mean, month, maybe the longest. But even with this water, you're still cutting it close and have a chance that it might gel up. So also, the logical 22:32 Speaker 2: mixture in a 5 mg bottle, I would normally tell a person to put 1 mill of water in, okay? Then you just get to inject less. You would inject 10 units, 22:42 Speaker 2: would 22:43 Speaker 2: give you 500 micrograms. 22:45 Speaker 2: But 22:45 Speaker 2: the more water, the better, okay? To prevent the potential gelling up, even with this water. So my suggestion is to add 2 mils of water. Yeah, 2 mils of water, 2 mils of water. 22:58 Speaker 2: Standard daily dose, 23:00 Speaker 2: 500 micrograms, which would then equal 20 units. 23:04 Speaker 2: Okay? Daily, both of them. 23:07 Speaker 2: HGH frag, you wanna get some extra fat burning, do it twice a day, evenly spaced out. Okay? Both 23:12 Speaker 2: of them should be fasted. 23:14 Speaker 2: Okay, both doses fasted, no carbs. 23:18 Speaker 2: You don't want any sugar 23:20 Speaker 2: kind of competing for the pathways. It will blunt anything that is HGH or dry from HGH. This is saying for 23:26 Speaker 1: the frag, either 23:28 Speaker 1: morning or pre workout. That's cool. 23:31 Speaker 1: Then you take IGF-one after workout. After workout. 23:35 Speaker 2: I'd 23:36 Speaker 2: say 8 to 12 weeks for 23:39 Speaker 2: the frag, 23:40 Speaker 2: 12 to 16 weeks in the AOD, just because it lasts a bit longer 23:45 Speaker 2: and then it's got a little bit better safety profile. So you could do it a little bit longer. 23:51 Speaker 2: Make sure that these things are refrigerated. I would add in, 23:54 Speaker 2: as always, room temp water. Yeah. Okay. Room temp water into your cold peptide, 24:00 Speaker 2: peptide powder, lyophilase in the fridge. 24:02 Speaker 2: Room temp AOD water, add it in there. Once it mix, put it in the fridge, make sure your fridge isn't too cold. Very true. Right, very important. Like too cold, halfway frozen, people 24:13 Speaker 2: It might look like it gelled up, but it's just really cold. But 24:17 Speaker 2: that's 24:17 Speaker 1: not gonna help it stay liquid. That does, just leave it out for like 20 minutes. You can still use it. People ask me, should I use it if it's cloudy? I've done it countless So 24:27 Speaker 2: there's your dosing guys, pretty straightforward. 24:30 Speaker 2: Max dose is I would say about 1000 micrograms. 24:33 Speaker 2: That would be- 28 in the morning, 29. Yeah. 1000 micrograms a day, max dose. 24:40 Speaker 1: Keep in mind that these are recommended doses. It doesn't mean you can't go less. It doesn't mean you can't do a little bit more. 24:48 Speaker 1: Try it. I've always done AOD more. I've done more. It says max 600 micrograms, but I do 20 units in the morning and 20 units at night, and I've always been fine. I love it. So Yep. Right. That is absolutely just as late, I mean, ladies, I'd probably start with 2 50 micrograms. 25:04 Speaker 2: You're a bigger person, you can handle more, that's just as a general rule. So that's it, we have some, Everybody 25:12 Speaker 2: who doesn't know, we have a 25:15 Speaker 2: community for this podcast on school, 25:18 Speaker 2: and if anybody wants to take a look at this presentation in further depth or slower, it'll be up there. These things will be posted quickly. Well, by the time that we 25:28 Speaker 2: show you this podcast, 25:30 Speaker 2: this will be available. If anybody wants to look it up, go ahead. 25:34 Speaker 2: Study it. There's the last 2 pages here. It's just basically repeating what we have talked about, but in the single sheets 25:41 Speaker 2: for each of them, just a profile sheet on each 1 of these, HGH frag and 25:46 Speaker 2: AOD. 25:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna get that. As we obviously, as we grow, the no brainer here is we're gonna continue to add to it and add to it. That channel is gonna be awesome. Now, 1st and foremost, 25:56 Speaker 1: it has a rad community. Over 6,000 people have joined in a matter of roughly 3 weeks, which we are even kind of blown away by it. 26:06 Speaker 1: And it's for the most part, people that are lifting each other up, people that are just very supportive and just have questions. 26:13 Speaker 1: On the front page, 26:14 Speaker 1: Will and I are both fairly busy and we try to do our best to continue to add more and more 26:20 Speaker 1: educational stuff 26:22 Speaker 1: all across the board. So there's gonna be a free version where you're in there and you're talking to people. You'll talk to a lot of our 26:28 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 26:31 Speaker 0: The space to go further, 26:32 Speaker 0: to feel better, to do something you never thought possible. 26:36 Speaker 0: And this space starts with UltraFit. 26:39 Speaker 0: Unlike traditional running shoes, UltraFit gives toes more room to move naturally, 26:44 Speaker 0: so every step is strong, balanced, and comfortable. 26:47 Speaker 0: Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. 26:51 Speaker 0: Shop now at ultrarunning.com. 26:53 Speaker 0: That's altrarunning.com. 26:57 Speaker 1: Employees, and they're gonna be there. We won't be in there much. As you can imagine, my inbox is full. I'm sure yours is too, and I just there's too many questions. Like, just like my DMs, I do my best. So what we're trying to do is 27:09 Speaker 1: just some sections that, you know, free, 27:12 Speaker 1: you get the protocols there, then maybe like a $25 1 that has some perks. Then like the 60 a month, you're gonna have access to where there's gonna be less questions because you gotta pay for it. Will and I will answer those questions and you'll have a weekly call that will jump on. 27:26 Speaker 1: You're gonna get a big discount for peptides. 27:29 Speaker 1: There's a lot of positives that are gonna come. So I say that like this, you do you. We don't care if you sign up for that stuff. If you're looking to ask us questions, it's not like we think we're anything special. We just get a lot of them, obviously, because we're out there, our faces are out there, but you will have that contact 27:46 Speaker 1: contact with us directly 27:48 Speaker 1: in the elite, which we call and and with the cool thing that we love, we get to do some cool stuff that we wanted to do for a long time. We've talked about doing some 27:57 Speaker 1: podcasts 27:58 Speaker 1: on gear and stuff like that. We've debated it because we get a lot of questions, 28:03 Speaker 1: but we also have to walk the line and we have to powers that be that don't like that stuff. So on these channels, we're able to do it. And that stuff's tucked away in the elite. Will and I both did a 28:14 Speaker 1: 1 on 28:15 Speaker 1: some gear. I did the cutting stack, which was my favorite cutting stack. I used to, you know, we ran gear when we were young and I know a lot about them. We've studied them for years. 28:24 Speaker 1: So I broke my favorite cutting stack and then he did a he's not a bulker guy, but he did a bulking stack. He knows a lot about it. And it was cool, man. So you'll have some of that stuff for any of you guys that actually 28:35 Speaker 1: take that stuff. We're very aware of that's how life is. 28:39 Speaker 1: Yes. And a lot more to come. Right? Yeah. A lot more. We're gonna do cool stuff. We're gonna have Paul on, Doctor. Scott on, we're going to have, you know, different doctors that'll show up in that elite for maybe 30 minutes where we can, you can ask them questions, maybe get some Jay Campbell, Paul back to you, our big names, you know, where you can have direct. 28:56 Speaker 1: As you can imagine, 28:58 Speaker 1: we're going to charge for that. 29:00 Speaker 2: Yep. I'm sure you get it. So 29:01 Speaker 2: what would you rather, what would you do if everything 29:05 Speaker 2: was money and availability was equal? Would you prefer AOD 29:08 Speaker 2: or HGH frag? 29:12 Speaker 1: I just started taking the HGH frag. I probably will lean towards AOD just because I it's 1 of my top. I 29:18 Speaker 1: have taken it, I think it is the 3rd day and haven't taken it yet. Was gonna I'm not lifting today, but 29:24 Speaker 1: I haven't taken it yet. So I'll report back. I haven't taken it. So again, AOD is 1 of my favorite. I feel it. Now, 29:31 Speaker 1: I think when AOD shines is on the back of other compounds where they work well in a synergistic. Now, I'm a cutter guy. I like to be lean. I like to be ripped. So I love my 5Amino-1MQ's. 29:44 Speaker 1: I love SLU-PP-thirty 29:45 Speaker 1: 2. I'm not running rudder right now, but anything 29:49 Speaker 1: like that that's gonna cut you up. I think if you take a few different cutters, 29:54 Speaker 1: they just run-in a synergistic order where they're going to really work to burn that fat. You know, like, well, if you take AOD by itself and that's it, will it have as much power as some of the other ones? Probably not. But I think if you add it, it does throw that fire on top that just goes, oh! It's anti obesity drug. They named it that for a reason. The way I explain it to people, it's always very simple. It's the last piece of the HGH chain. No negatives. It just burns fat. 30:21 Speaker 1: And that's the only job that has. No negatives, no increase in IGF-one. 30:26 Speaker 1: So that's where I stand now. I will report back. Justin told me he had a boost of energy. I did not feel that, 30:32 Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. 30:35 Speaker 2: Everybody's different. Yep, everybody's different. And like, here's the thing, like, you never know 30:40 Speaker 2: if you are a person, right, and like your HGH output is 30:45 Speaker 2: extra low and you've been trying to lose weight, right, maybe you've been effective with it and then you try this like, holy shit, it might just work incredibly well for you. 30:53 Speaker 2: Some people might not really much feel it, but 30:57 Speaker 2: I think you'll feel it. Like, it works. Yeah. I mean, it works for sure. Obviously. 31:01 Speaker 2: But yeah, sometimes some people just might be super reactors and 31:05 Speaker 1: some won't be. Don't go to the gym and have somebody say they took it and it sucked. That's their opinion. Right? Don't go to the gym and say, you need to take 2 50 mg of testosterone or like, listen. And if you listen to any other podcasts or any other guys out there, cool, do it all. If you ever have somebody that's telling you this is how it is and this is definitive, don't listen to that person. Like we don't, I don't pretend like we know it all. Just study and we try a lot of it. And like a lot of this stuff is firsthand 31:31 Speaker 1: knowledge of seeing a lot of people that do these things. I've used this example so many times. There's people that are living die. You need to take Retatrutide once a week, and this is why blah, blah. 31:40 Speaker 1: And we've seen very different because we've seen people to do that. It didn't work as good. And then they did microdose of 3 days when it was a Friday, and it worked a lot better. The only reason we know that is because we've seen it work. Didn't care how it reads. 31:54 Speaker 1: We've seen it. So just keep an open mind 31:57 Speaker 1: and try it. Try it. 32:00 Speaker 1: You've seen- Don't listen to Jim Bros all time. Not really, not There's not much downside. Yeah. These are safe. 32:06 Speaker 2: Right, well, good job. It 32:08 Speaker 2: is Friday. 32:10 Speaker 1: We got a lot going on around here. 32:12 Speaker 1: We got a lot going on around here. School, we're building that, it's going, it's going. We're gonna keep adding to it and we are always open for the people that are on there. If you have some suggestions, I've had some cool suggestions. 32:24 Speaker 1: Our goal is to make it as best as we possibly can and to give you guys what you want. You know, if we're able to do it, let's do it. So 32:32 Speaker 1: we're always evolving and growing and trying to get better and that's never going to stop. 32:37 Speaker 1: You know what mean? So 32:38 Speaker 1: other than that, next week we'll do the Q and A, and then we're thinking about having another guest on. Paul Backtr is in town. 32:47 Speaker 1: He's a good friend of ours. He's a keynote speaker actually right now in Dallas and he's flying into town next week. So we may have him on. We're not sure yet. We're gonna see if it works out. We might have him live for the 1st time, which would be rad. And that will be fun. He's a good friend of ours. We're planning on having roughly 33:03 Speaker 1: a guest every other week. That's kind of the goal we're trying to set up. We do have a lot of people emailing in and wanting to come on the show. So we're I haven't talked to you about that, but I wanna have maybe 1 of our staff kind of start to vet that and 33:15 Speaker 1: because there are some really good people out there. My emails are just I can't sort through it all. It's getting lost. Well, doc doctor Sam Orgey, 33:21 Speaker 2: I think that's how I say it. But he's coming in 2 weeks. 33:24 Speaker 2: Sweet. He'll be here. Perfect. 30th. 30th. 33:27 Speaker 1: Yep. Cool. 30th. 33:29 Speaker 2: In studio. 33:30 Speaker 2: Yeah. And he does yeah, I don't know. We'll let him tell, but like he is well, so he's the 1 who did my, like, hair transplant. He's an but he's also an ER surgeon. 33:39 Speaker 2: Oh. And in his younger life in med school and as an early doctor was like DJing at clubs after his night shifts 33:47 Speaker 1: at the ER. Super cool guy. Remember when 1st met him. He's cool. Wow, that will be a fun conversation 33:52 Speaker 1: because, 33:55 Speaker 1: dude, that would be cool if they start using-0s): Oh, and he's starting a telehealth, 33:58 Speaker 2: starting like a telehealth company called 34:02 Speaker 2: Summer. 34:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. 34:04 Speaker 1: Summer. Well, think about peptides 34:06 Speaker 1: within an ER. 34:08 Speaker 1: That would be cool. I was telling Will this story, I told the team that my doctor, who I actually love, I've been going to him for 30 years, he has seen me through a lot and he's a doctor that I really trust. He calls me and checks on me. That's what he was doing yesterday. He was just calling me. I get this crap in my throat all the time, so he was just seeing how I was. 34:26 Speaker 1: And he just 34:27 Speaker 1: said, People are just talking about peptides left and right, left and right. And I've been talking about them for years. And he finally said, Maybe we should sit down and talk about peptides. Duh. 34:36 Speaker 1: Life is changing. The world is changing, baby. 34:39 Speaker 1: So, but good stuff. So we'll catch you next week. Take care, guys. Good night.