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0:42Speaker 1Wow. So it was really good. It was good to spend some good time with her family, even though I've already known them for a little while and they're awesome and easygoing.
0:51Speaker 1Their kids, he's a boy and he's fun. At least I have somebody to play catch with and play football, like play catch with constantly.
1:00Speaker 1Yeah. But that's cool, man. I would I like doing that. So it's it's like me throwing the balls, trying to get him to, you know, slam into the waves while catching the football.
1:11Speaker 1You know, jumping off pool decks when he's not supposed to to catch the catch the football
1:26Speaker 1I kinda stayed out of the sun last couple days, so I don't look as freshly tan, but- I was thinking that.
1:39Speaker 1In Huntington Beach, Southern California. But dude, I don't know, it was a really good time. We did some extracurricular
1:48Speaker 1we spent a little too much time in the car, if you ask me, for a relaxing vacation, but we saw the volcano,
1:57Speaker 15 days prior for the 1st time in a long time, like actual lava was spewing out, which we did not see, but we saw the caldera and all the vents. We went to Kilauea,
2:15Speaker 0He Will doesn't do that for everybody listening. To even get him on this podcast, it was pulling teeth. But I hope everybody enjoyed the last podcast. It was a little bit unique. I listened to it because I hadn't listened to it in a while,
2:29Speaker 0did that a year and 0.5 ago, not even having any of this clue we would be sitting down and having a podcast, but you could tell we jived even back then, man. So that's pretty cool, man. So we are appreciative that so many people are tuning in that the podcast is growing at a very rapid pace and we are very, very, very blessed and we're just stoked that people like it, man. So thank you all for tuning in so much. And these are the good days. I like going through the questions. There's not as many as normal. I was slow to get the link up. I'll be better at that, my friends, but you want me to start us off or you wanna start us off? I
3:10Speaker 1Alright, so what's up guys? I'm a huge fan of you too and you have changed my whole outlook on health and recovery. I'm
3:21Speaker 1before your last podcast, but now we'll be ordering some. My question is my better 0.5 works out 5 times a week and has a good diet. She wants to tone up a bit, but is nervous about injections. Is there anything that she can take in a pill form or a peptide that has less frequent injections to tone up? She's 43 years young. Good man. Prayers.
3:43Speaker 1For a speedy recovery on your back, JD, as I'm considering back surgery myself. Been a firefighter for a long time and my back is not in good shape. God bless.
3:54Speaker 0Mel. Thank you for that. I thank you. 1st off, that just was thanks for all the kind words within that question. We appreciate you, man.
4:10Speaker 0so she might start there. I think it's a great peptide, so she would get a lot out of it for 1. It's in pill form for 2.
4:18Speaker 0So start there, but what I would recommend is maybe an NAD that you can do, NAD plus where you can do a Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
4:28Speaker 0And to be honest with you, brother, I think the minute she takes her 1st injection, she will realize that it's nothing and
4:39Speaker 0injections because it's nothing. It's an insulin needle. I've had so many people that are so
4:44Speaker 0worried about the injection and I help them do the 1st 1. They're like, That's it? That's it. So
4:56Speaker 0I think those 2 would be great for your bride. I have my bride on those 2 and my bride looks amazing. So, yeah, I would start the SLU-PP-332
5:07Speaker 0in the pill form, and then I would move and try the NAD, which is maybe she can run Monday, Wednesday, Friday, start there. And I think that will open the door for her realizing that she'll try many more.
5:25Speaker 1Dude, I don't I mean, everything you said, 1st of all, yeah, the injection's nothing. I think the most people find are worried about it, and they do it, and they're like, you know, that's it? Nothing. Big deal. Yeah. Dude,
5:50Speaker 1people who are actually working out because it allows you to have an appetite. She's still gonna be able to eat protein.
6:05Speaker 1injection. So if you're gonna do NAD 3 times a week, might as well do Retta, but you can even really just do it twice a week,
6:15Speaker 1Eating habits. Good habits and work ethic. Right. So you try that. Give her a little bit of a low dose of of Retta.
6:22Speaker 1Yeah. We'll do maybe 3 times in Monday and Friday? Yeah. Yeah. Monday, Thursday Monday, Thursday. Right? We have 7 day weeks, so there can't be perfectly
6:49Speaker 1Also, you'll probably find peptides out there like the run, you'll find every injectable peptide in a pill from somebody. Not all of them work, dude. Don't if you just see a peptide like, Oh, look, it's in a pill. It's not going to work. There's too many people out there just trying to make some money and then so they'll just put a peptide in the capsule and say it works, but it really does nothing because it's just not bioavailable
7:11Speaker 0So don't waste your money on that. That's a good I think people need to understand that, that everybody's jumping on the peptide train, everybody's jumping on the peptide train, which is amazing. The thing is, you're obviously gonna piece some people that have just some companies that have just
7:30Speaker 0pep in pill form that shouldn't that just aren't there yet. It's not there yet. Peptides right now,
7:36Speaker 0most of them need to be injected. This is the way it is. It is what it is. I think that will progress and get better, but right now that's what it is. Just so you know. So just alright.
8:05Speaker 0my stitches? Yes, it will hurt. It will hurt probably quite a bit. So, my suggestion is definitely It'll travel through your body perfectly fine. It will definitely help. It's there for wounds and cuts and scars. That's 1 of the things where GHK-
8:21Speaker 0Another idea is what I've been doing for my back, as most people know because I throw it out there, I just had back surgery and on my scar,
8:37Speaker 0on my scar. So that's something that you can rub on the scar that won't sting like a son of a bitch if you inject it near that scar. You're gonna be hurting, dude. So just sub you. Yeah.
8:57Speaker 1right? GHK- CU is really kind of working on the dermis layer in your skin healing, yes, but
9:16Speaker 1I still would put them all sub q. It will it'll help, and I would do them do them sub q. But, you know, that's 3 times as much money because you're taking 2 extra things. GHKCU
9:39Speaker 1like the liquid peptide and then just kind of drip it on there nor really inject right into the site.
9:59Speaker 1and TB-five hundred, which is also known as Thymosin beta-four. Well, if you're actually getting Thymosin beta-four, which you should be,
10:17Speaker 1would I wait to cycle off or just start it? Also, what's the best to run with IGF-1LR3
10:38Speaker 1Okay, so running a cycle, I'm assuming you're doing some like at least testosterone and maybe some other steroids with it.
10:44Speaker 1Good for you. I mean, you know, I'm not neither condoning nor saying anything on that 1, but what
10:55Speaker 1is really, really, really helping with your nutrient partitioning. Okay? So it is just when you lift weights and we tear our muscles down, now our body needs protein to rebuild those muscles.
11:12Speaker 1just, I don't know, super feeding. It's just taking all of your damn protein and the carbs that you eat, right, and shoving them in your muscles for maximum, maximum growth.
11:23Speaker 1your body is already repairing, you know, 20 fourseven because that's what steroids do.
11:32Speaker 1yeah, protein synthesis is going through the roof. I would use it. I would do it about 8 weeks while on the cycle. Okay? Yeah. And eat incredibly well, do what, you know, have a little bit of I would do it post post workout
11:51Speaker 1to help shuttle that protein in there. So I would do it for about 8 weeks on cycle, and then I would, you know, finish the cycle maybe off of that. It doesn't matter when you do it on the cycle right now.
12:06Speaker 1your post cycle right after that, that's your worst time. Right? There is a little bit of a letdown.
12:11Speaker 1You do a post cycle so you don't lose a bunch of muscle, but hell, I mean, I try to stress people.
12:17Speaker 1Eat more post cycle. Work out harder post cycle. Right? That's when your muscles really, really
12:23Speaker 1need the food. You wanna keep all the gains that you got. So I would run the damn thing again basically right when I, like, finish the post cycle for another 8 weeks and keep lifting and keep eating is really gonna just help get more protein into your damn muscles and make sure you don't go catabolic. You don't lose
12:42Speaker 1And that will give you an adequate break because you're cycling it. 8 weeks on during the cycle,
12:52Speaker 0Yeah, because we usually talk about for most peptides to run them a good 90 days. That's generally like a general rule of thumb because you gotta let the peptides do what the peptides do. It's not an overnight thing. You're not going to get to what you want, like a steroid cycle. They're just not there.
13:09Speaker 0is a little bit different. We generally suggest it for about 8 weeks and then take some time off and then run it again.
13:19Speaker 0if you're running steroid cycles, again, no judgment, that's cool. For people that don't know what he's talking about, I'm on cycle, you run on a steroid cycle.
13:33Speaker 0would help you increase your own human growth hormone. And just my own personal experience with MK-677
13:42Speaker 0more than anything. I just got done with the surgery and I'd lost some weight, not as much as I was expecting, to be honest with you, but I haven't ran MK-677
13:52Speaker 0and I'm going to start it tonight. Tonight will be my 1st time taking MK-six in quite some time because I'm trying to get some leaner muscle back, bigger muscle back, and MK will help as you come off. Try that. Absolutely.
14:03Speaker 1It'll help. It'll boost your hunger too, is 1 of the big parts in the post cycle, right? You're just not feeling as motivated
14:12Speaker 1That's why really nobody should be doing cycles unless you already have good work ethic because
14:25Speaker 0a little while to get back there. Yeah. I'm 39 and I train CrossFit 6 days a week. Right now, I'm running a low dose of Retatrutide
15:07Speaker 1That also helps you with nutrient partitioning because your body's getting beat up and you need some more vitamin, protein, etcetera in your muscles. It also is a performance enhancer to help your endurance.
15:34Speaker 1fat burning over carbs, kind of similar to what keto does to a person's body. Right? It
15:41Speaker 1starts using just your fat for fuel. So you'll notice it to lean you out, but it also your performance and endurance
15:51Speaker 1well, I don't know. I just, I think red is awesome, even a super low dose to just help your brain.
16:05Speaker 1Ipamorelin and start with maybe Tesamorelin to Ipamorelin. Yeah. Or better yet, just start doing some low dose HGH, right? You're 39 years old. You're obviously living
16:23Speaker 1that will do you very good. Now, it's not an immediate fix, but started now and just keep running it.
16:38Speaker 1Love it. There's a ton of other things there, but, like, you know, again, I don't wanna just stack 10 things on people. I want you to try a few things so you know what is working, what's
16:52Speaker 0Yeah, if you're looking to get ripped and lean, man, I gotta tell you, AOD and the well, HGH is HGH to me is like the holy grail in regards, it's up there with testosterone. Testosterone and HGH is right under it. For anybody over 40, I just think everybody should be running low dose of HGH. That's 2 IUs. No more. You don't need anymore. Again, like Will said, it's a longer play. It takes a while for you really to kind of hit the stride on that, but you'll notice after 6 months of human growth hormone that you will be able to lean up a little bit quicker. You just notice it. So I would say that you're 39, you're getting to that, maybe throw in 2 IUs of HGH in the morning.
17:27Speaker 0And dude, I would throw in maybe an AOD in the morning and a Tesamorelin at night. You want to get ripped? Those will do it, man. That really would. If you're still going to keep the little bit of Retatrutide,
17:44Speaker 0too, man. 5Amino's great, man. 5Amino's great. Shoot. That's the beautiful thing about peptides, man. There are so many, and they do so many that do just amazing
18:22Speaker 0Does that mean I don't need it? Is it common, but it's still doing something? My husband as well doesn't feel anything.
18:29Speaker 0Well, my answer to that is I don't really know exactly what you're looking to feel. I would imagine you're you're saying that you wanna feel more energetic. That's 1 of the things, kind of pure
18:49Speaker 0peptide, in my opinion, that you're gonna see results almost instantly is gonna be a GLP-one peptide, Semaglutide, Tirzepatide,
18:58Speaker 0which we obviously lean more towards Retatrutide these days. This was the superior GLP-one.
19:03Speaker 0You'll notice those right away, but NAD, I can't say that you should expect to really feel anything.
19:09Speaker 0I don't know, man. Will, you got anything else on that? Yeah, I am definitely the type of person that doesn't feel
19:35Speaker 1yeah, they feel their NAD, like, feel more energy, but brain fog list you know, lifted
19:44Speaker 1And not instantly. So the instant, not instantly, but after a few weeks of consistently taking it, I think that 1st of all, to answer this question though,
19:55Speaker 1well, the instant effects from from NAD is any like potential like tingling sensation.
20:00Speaker 1Okay? Some people like that. High dose? Some people, yeah, you need to get a bit higher dose. Some people like it. I've personally done it in extremely high dose and it made me go like overwhelming
20:12Speaker 1like I couldn't move. That was too much, and I don't think anybody's gonna enjoy that. But you need to slowly kinda work your way up, right, to to find your correct dose.
20:23Speaker 1If you and people will, like hell, my girlfriend's like, I can't I can't take it at night because it gives me a little bit too much energy. Now she didn't do that after the 1st injection. She's now it's built up in her system. Right? She's been consistent,
20:58Speaker 0and it even can be I ran long think that's important, brother. Like, for example, like, again, kind of circling back around, most peptides, we think that you need to run them for a good, I don't know, at least 60, if not 90 days. Give it time to do what the peptide does. It's not an instant fix. You're not going to get anything right away.
21:17Speaker 0Let it compound, let it build up, let it do what it does. And you just got to have some patience in
21:38Speaker 0NAD is great, I'm glad that you're trying it, let it build up, maybe take it every day if you're doing it Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Troy around with it a little bit, man, can
21:49Speaker 0I've said it numerous times, we're all science projects, it's not 1 size fits all just because your friend feels it here. You need to find where you
21:59Speaker 1takes a little time. Yep, it does. And I start and we start low, right? Everybody's tolerance is different. I'd say 5 mg
22:15Speaker 1per injection 3 days a week is a good spot. I know for effect. I know people who are doing 100 mg
22:30Speaker 1But make sure you're taking enough and stay consistent. It's all, I mean, this stuff with these peptides, you gotta be consistent.
22:42Speaker 0True that. Don't jump off before you get it. Alright, is VIP a good peptide for sleep apnea?
23:03Speaker 1what symptoms of sleep apnea do you not do you not like? I mean, what are the major bothering ones? Is it because you are waking yourself up and you're not getting restful sleep? Is it because you're pissing your wife off because you snore a ton and you're and you're being really loud?
23:17Speaker 1What are we trying to, what are we trying to combat about that sleep apnea? Obviously, all of it, like, let's get rid of all of it would be awesome. So,
23:43Speaker 1And personally, I would go with Reta, okay? It's got the same dang thing that Tirzepatide has, right? Same thing except for just the GI, the G, the
24:04Speaker 1Also, what helps with that is losing weight. So maybe that's why. Maybe that's probably that probably would help. That's probably why. It's helping people stop snoring.
24:15Speaker 1Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide, right? If the issue is, hey, I'm not getting enough sleep because I keep waking myself up, well, that will help you get into REM sleep and actually help you get restful sleep
24:23Speaker 1for the times that you are asleep. You know? You'll get more restful sleep. And, you know, Thymosin Alpha helps with inflammation.
24:44Speaker 0obviously, we don't know, since you've made a question, but, you know, you're probably in need of some losing some weight as as most people that snore heavily
24:57Speaker 0Try that, see if that will work for you, and drop some weight, see if that helps with the snoring, the DSIP, maybe add that in too. There you go. Try those. As always, you circle back
25:07Speaker 0around to you gotta try it, man. You just gotta try some of these things. So there's a suggestion. DSIP and Retatrutide.
25:16Speaker 1In your experience with testosterone and finding your correct dosage, have you ever had any side effects in your journey?
25:31Speaker 1there are side effects that come. And we all you're right to use the right term, journey, right? We all need to find our own sweet spot. So when we do testosterone,
25:46Speaker 1Estrogen is the most common symptom. Your main 3 things that you're looking for is any nipple sensitivity.
25:56Speaker 1That means your body is trying to build fat right under your nipple. It's not the fat that you can burn off. It's the fat you have to cut out.
26:05Speaker 1if this thing if they are sore and you let them stay sore, you will start to grow fat. Okay?
26:14Speaker 1right, side effect of that, you know, nobody wants especially getting dotted out in your shoulders,
26:19Speaker 1Right. That's estrogen. I guarantee you estrogen. Estrogen blocker will block take care of that. Yep.
26:43Speaker 1that's also estrogen. So those all can be combated with an estrogen blocker and aromatase
26:57Speaker 1But the goal there is basically, hey. We should feel no side effect. You don't wanna feel any of those side effect. K? If you're feeling those, your estrogen is too high. What you do is you you take your AI. K. Let's call it Arimidex. Right? I would take a milligram 3 times a week
27:12Speaker 1till those symptoms, whatever symptom. If you have 1 of those or all 3, it doesn't matter. We we don't want any of them. Take it 3 times a week until the symptoms are gone. Okay? Go 1 more week, taking 3 a week to make sure you're stable and they are gone. Then I would slowly incrementally
27:29Speaker 11 of those doses. So now we go next week to 2 a week. Okay? Hey, no symptoms? Awesome. Let's pull 1. Let's go to 1 a week. Oh, hey, if a little bit of symptoms came back, well, your sweet spot was probably 2
27:41Speaker 1mg, evenly spaced out. You can even do the 0.5 a pill, making it 0.5 a milligram. The goal is to take as little of the AIs as possible,
28:06Speaker 1it can cause acne because your pores are getting closed up a little bit. It can swell your prostate, can feel a bit swollen if you're only peeing.
28:19Speaker 1people have some gnarly side effects to those things, like loss of sex drive, like, gone completely.
28:39Speaker 1So I don't get any side effects. But hell yeah, man, you just gotta find your way. Some people JD, go ahead with your opinion. Yeah, I mean,
28:52Speaker 0it converted to estrogen quickly. I learned it quickly when I was younger and didn't do things properly in my early 20s,
28:58Speaker 0you know, when things weren't so readily available to study, nor would I probably have done it anyway. You know, I was running cycles and doing things not properly,
29:10Speaker 0in this world. Well, I eventually got it cut out. But even after having it cut out, I still get it. It can come back. For those of you that think that once you get it cut out, it's still there, man. That sucker can still grow. I'm living proof. So I've had to battle that for a long time. And just letting you know that, I've had to battle it and I've had to try a lot of different amounts.
29:30Speaker 0Estrogen blocker, it has taken me a long time. I don't even take an AI anymore. Just my sweet spot is 180 mg of testosterone,
29:48Speaker 0quite some time. So that's 1. 2 is your balls can shrink in longevity. You run testosterone replacement for a longer period, men are known to do their balls to shrink, like literally.
30:03Speaker 0I think most men should run HCG Monday, Wednesday, Friday anyway. It'll keep you fertile. So for guys like me that my wife keeps pecking them out here for another baby, I can't even believe she says that. I'm 48 years old. But I
30:16Speaker 0run HCG Monday, Wednesday, Friday at a higher dose than most because of that. But 2, it helps your balls from not shrinking.
30:29Speaker 0That's another thing of a negative of testosterone replacement is your ball shrinking.
30:43Speaker 0you're not going to know everything overnight. You are a science project. I am a science project.
30:48Speaker 0And you have to figure out your own science project, and that takes time. So therefore, I think everybody's goal should be to get to less is more. Like for example, I used to have to run higher
31:01Speaker 0I don't have to anymore. I found my way around that. I don't want to take Rimadex if I don't have to,
31:08Speaker 0but that's taken a lot of times. Again, put in the time, take it slow. If you're just starting TRT, maybe start like 150 mg.
31:27Speaker 0So I'd start low, try it for 3 weeks, see how you feel. Again, as Will said, if you start getting sensitive in your nipple, itchy in your nipple, like if somebody rubs against your nipple, you're starting to get gynecomastia
31:39Speaker 0and don't trust me, you don't want it. So Rimadex is gonna be what you want with that stuff. Yeah, and I can attest to JD-nine 20
31:52Speaker 1J. D. Says he doesn't take an estrogen blocker anymore. It's because he just doesn't run high doses of testosterone.
31:58Speaker 1Okay? So if you keep Some people can manage it with estrogen blockers, some can't, right? Generally,
32:05Speaker 1mg a week is kind of the anabolic threshold. That's when we're talking like a steroid dose, right, where some people think of steroids.
32:12Speaker 1Like, you're gonna start to need an estrogen blocker. A lot of people will not need 1 if you're running less than 400. Okay? It's everybody's
32:19Speaker 1it's up to everybody. Also, you know, yeah, man, this journey, right, I've had times where
32:25Speaker 1I've taken too much of the estrogen blockers, k, and or and or taking it too early where I didn't need it. And now what it is doing is killing off all the estrogen we want. Men, we need some estrogen. Okay? Okay. So now it killed off all of all of my estrogen, and my body fought back and started saying, well, shit. I need more. Right? And now it's working twice as hard to create estrogen.
32:50Speaker 1stop the cycle of of of trying to kill it off. I actually had to just lower the theft,
32:55Speaker 1stop the estrogen blockers, let my body balance itself out. K? And it stopped making so much estrogen just by stopping the estrogen blockers, to be honest.
33:05Speaker 1Also, hey. Yeah. There is a thing that's taking too many estrogen blockers. K? You will notice kind of the opposite side of it. Your your sex drive will be,
33:17Speaker 1Joints will start hurting. You won't have any water. Your joints will hurt because you're purging all of your water. Right? We need to retain a little bit of water. Joints will start hurting.
33:30Speaker 1letdown. If you start getting winded too fast, walking up the stairs when you shouldn't be, your estrogen, you probably crashed your estrogen. So
33:37Speaker 1there's some things to manage, dude, and we're and you're messing with your hormones. So less is more, like he said. Right? Start small.
33:46Speaker 1Don't save $5 and buy some shit off of somebody in their garage because it was $5 cheaper. That's just dumb, dumb. This is stuff, you're messing with your own hormones, man. Get good stuff if you're gonna do it
34:13Speaker 0is the generic name, but I see different brand names starting, they help with different
34:31Speaker 0I'll take that part and Will, you can take the 2nd part. Great question. Thanks for asking. I've had 4 back surgeries.
34:43Speaker 0I'm south a lot of doctors this time. I interviewed a lot of doctors and I did say interview. I wanted a good doctor And he actually took the screws
34:57Speaker 0But here's the thing, guys, I know a lot of people are against surgery. I am not. I was in really bad pain for 2 months. Mean,
35:06Speaker 0we'll know you saw that every day. I muscled through it. A pretty I go to work and still work 12 hour days, but man, I was in pain. It really was affecting me and I didn't know until I had the surgery, until I realized my mindset was off.
35:19Speaker 0So yeah, I think people should probably get the surgery instead of staying in that horrible, horrible, horrible pain. I woke up and was like,
35:27Speaker 0but I did a lot to do the recovery. I took a ton of TB-five hundred BPC blend, a ton, like a high, high doses.
35:34Speaker 0I went into a hyperbaric chamber for 5 days. I fasted more than I fasted. And even the doctor, when I talked to him last, he was blown away by how fast I was healing. So I was trying to help. I was trying to expedite. So thanks for your question. I think some people, if you're in really bad pain in your back,
36:06Speaker 12 epidurals put in me. Was at point where, you know, my bottom of my foot was like the pain was all the way down there. I was fucking miserable.
36:20Speaker 1It took Really? Because, well, I dealt with the pain for so long for too long. Right? And just kinda drank alcohol over it. Right? Their pain pills didn't do anything to me.
36:31Speaker 1So I had, like, a I had a actual, like, visible nick in my nerve, they said, and just nerves take forever
36:44Speaker 1And, dude, I know people yeah. Like, in your recovery is crazy. You look like you were never hurting, and you were miserable for a long time before that. So I'm a fan of surgeries. I don't know. I guess maybe it's because I never had anything bad happen in a surgery. Right?
37:00Speaker 0Yeah, true. Like, you may- Yeah, you know, I get it. It's not bad, like, I took the time to get the right surgeon. I basically, for lack of a better way, better way to say it, I turned down 5. 5 guys that were different and they were more aggressive, and this guy was subtle, he was calm, and like, I knew he was my guy. Yeah, that's true. I knew he was my guy. So,
37:19Speaker 1even got my whole stomach lined with metal mesh to try to fix what they thought was in guinal hernia and they woke me up and they said, well, I couldn't find any hernia, but we just we put the metal mesh in both sides of your lower stomach.
37:32Speaker 1Like, great. Well, it still hurts in the same exact place. And literally, I went to Beverly Hills surgeons
37:52Speaker 1and I wasn't willing to have that happen. So I did some hip loosening exercises and did a heavy round of TB 500, and it healed. Amazing. After 10 years, dude. I couldn't even roll over in bed at night without, like, lifting my own leg.
38:12Speaker 0You can DM me if you would need some I can give you some guidance on the places that I know, but just DM me on my Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. DM him for on your questions about the HGH and where
38:50Speaker 1you may see, Oh, it's for this deficiency. Well, it's because they did their FDA testing, right? They spent their money to get FDA approved on this specific little condition,
39:03Speaker 1But really it's all the same thing. The only difference of what's a patented different name is just because of the delivery system, right? Like
39:15Speaker 1lyophilized powder vials that you need to add your own, you know, bacteriostatic water to. Okay?
39:22Speaker 1I think, I forget the name, but that comes in a injectable pen. Same drug, different delivery system,
39:40Speaker 1then you should be just fine. It's all the same. All that matters is how much you give yourself.
39:46Speaker 1Debt. Okay. Good 1. Good. I'll read this 1. So, warriors, I recently started my peptide research and have been keeping a journal of my peptide dosages
39:57Speaker 1and effects I feel and see. I went online to see if there's a timetable or timeline of peptide taking effect or
40:05Speaker 1when I should feel the effects. Right? I found your podcast is the most informative thus far. Good.
40:10Speaker 1My question is, to your knowledge, do you know of any personal journal that have been published or posted so I can compare my notes? Thank you for your time and answer.
40:25Speaker 1I don't know of any, I don't know, it's the same journal. 1st of all, all of the dosages and timelines are different for every single peptide, so there's no generic answer. If you go on to Reddit, which I'm sure that you probably have, there are a ton of people who are sharing their own personal results now,
40:45Speaker 1posting their own personal opinion similar to what JD and I are doing, so I'll take that for what it's worth. But
40:53Speaker 1telling you, I guess, what happened to them and then and don't take that as as as bond forever. Right? Like, they
41:01Speaker 1just because they experience 1 thing doesn't mean that that's what the drug does. That's what the peptide does for everybody. This is what it does. Yeah. That's what people say. Hey. Since it happened to me, this is what it does every single time to everybody. Right? Don't don't don't do that. Right? Everybody's different. Bodies are different. There's a good website,
41:23Speaker 1That has a lot of different peptides and information on dosages and how long you should take it,
41:38Speaker 0for every single peptide. It's tough. It's a lot of information. There's a lot on that website. Check that out. Yeah. Does anyone else's L Carnitine draw into insulin syringe slow?
41:48Speaker 0I try letting it get to the room temperature, but it doesn't seem to help. Maybe it's just a thicker pep. Any suggestions? Yeah, I have used it many, many times. It's a great peptide. No, don't try it at insulin syringe. You'll be here till Christmas.
42:22Speaker 0And that's how I do L Carnitine. So no, I suggest you do not use insulin. It's not, it won't, it'll be, it'll take forever, too long. It is just the nature of the beast, dude. It's a thicker compound that isn't gonna draw out
42:38Speaker 0I mean, anybody that's gonna try carnitine, man, I mean, I love it. It's such a great peptide. I mean, it does so good. But man, to be honest with you, pinning 1 mil every day, it gets old real quick. Yeah. It's a lot.
42:53Speaker 1and even like last time that we fell on, right, you could use an insulin pen, but you better backfill it.
43:04Speaker 1is not gonna be helpful. You may wanna draw it with a bigger pen, pull the plunger out, backfill the insulin 1. But I don't know, I mean, the shoulder pin is really dang small. 20 27
43:44Speaker 0I mean, that would probably be the least of my favorites. So my thoughts on it is there's better ones.
43:50Speaker 0Matter of opinion, you could get ask 10 guys and get 10 different. I mean, again, circling back around,
43:59Speaker 0try each 1 for 90 days. Those you should run for 90 days. Do Yeah. You notice a difference on any? I don't know. I mean, I can tell you Tesamorelin for me helps me sleep better. If I'm going to choose a secretagogue,
44:18Speaker 0They all do a little bit of the same thing a little bit differently, so that's why you want to try them and everybody's body's different, so they might respond to them differently.
44:27Speaker 0But to circle back to your question, thoughts on effectiveness, I think it's great. Try it. I think there's better ones.
45:00Speaker 1It does basically the same thing, but I would choose Tesamorelin more. Tesamorelin is going to be more expensive,
45:12Speaker 1well, not as strong. It's a little bit faster acting and just like our pulses, even though Tesamorelin does that too, but
45:20Speaker 1I don't know. It's a little bit slower acting, but still a faster acting 1. So I've also read a lot of literature and
45:48Speaker 0Alright, good morning. I'm looking for a peptide. Can you help me that helps me feel better. Looking for a shop in Orange County. Well, guys,
45:56Speaker 0on that guy, just shoot me a DM if you follow me. I'm sure you're following me on Instagram.
46:00Speaker 0I can maybe answer that question. It's a little bit vague, but just shoot me a DM and I can probably answer that a little bit better.
46:09Speaker 0Dude, well, we went a little longer than usual, but, that was awesome. Will's back. It's good to have him back. And, shoot, man. I hope you guys enjoy it, and, we'll catch you, what, next next, Tuesday, we'll be recording the pod peptide of the week, and it'll drop on, I think, Thursday. So hope everybody has an amazing
46:33Speaker 1happy to hear that people are being helped through what we do, right, and answer a lot of questions. I know it's just, it is tough out there on the internet, right? Everybody's got their own opinion. It's tough to find, you know, and again, we're just giving our opinion, but I like to think that we've done a lot of research
46:48Speaker 1on ourselves and witnessed a whole, I mean, thousands of people. A lot of people. Please
46:57Speaker 1We're happy to answer them, man. I mean, we believe in this stuff. I absolutely believe in it. I know this stuff is is great and works for you,
47:06Speaker 0yeah, keep using it, dude. We're happy to help. Love it, man. We will catch you guys on the flip side. Everybody take care. Good night.