Peptide Q&A #8 – Peptides for Women, GHK-CU Healing, IGF-1LR3 Cycles Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-8-peptides-for-women-ghk-cu-healing-igf-1lr3-cycles/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:09 Speaker 0: What's up my friends? 0:11 Speaker 0: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. 0:14 Speaker 0: I am your host 0:15 Speaker 0: JD Denim and fresh back from the big island of Hawaii. He's my buddy and my cohost, 0:22 Speaker 0: William Tirz. 0:23 Speaker 1: Welcome home, my friend. What's up, man? It's good to be home, actually. 0:28 Speaker 0: How was your trip? We all wanna know. Tell us all about It was amazing. 0:32 Speaker 1: I got to be there with family. I went with my girlfriend, her sister, 0:38 Speaker 1: her child, 9 year old boy, and their mother and me. 0:42 Speaker 1: Wow. So it was really good. It was good to spend some good time with her family, even though I've already known them for a little while and they're awesome and easygoing. 0:51 Speaker 1: Their kids, he's a boy and he's fun. At least I have somebody to play catch with and play football, like play catch with constantly. 0:58 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. But that's cool, man. I would I like doing that. So it's it's like me throwing the balls, trying to get him to, you know, slam into the waves while catching the football. 1:11 Speaker 1: You know, jumping off pool decks when he's not supposed to to catch the catch the football 1:16 Speaker 1: and 1:17 Speaker 1: eating all my ice cream in the freezer. 1:20 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1:23 Speaker 1: But, dude, I don't know. It was a great time. It was 1:26 Speaker 1: I kinda stayed out of the sun last couple days, so I don't look as freshly tan, but- I was thinking that. 1:33 Speaker 1: But whatever, I kinda stay tan. We live in this gorgeous 1:35 Speaker 1: sunny place all year round anyway. 1:39 Speaker 1: In Huntington Beach, Southern California. But dude, I don't know, it was a really good time. We did some extracurricular 1:45 Speaker 1: exploring, 1:48 Speaker 1: we spent a little too much time in the car, if you ask me, for a relaxing vacation, but we saw the volcano, 1:55 Speaker 1: which actually erupted 1:57 Speaker 1: 5 days prior for the 1st time in a long time, like actual lava was spewing out, which we did not see, but we saw the caldera and all the vents. We went to Kilauea, 2:08 Speaker 1: black sand beach, 2:10 Speaker 1: too many pictures. 2:11 Speaker 1: The girls always wanted me to pose for pictures. 2:15 Speaker 0: He Will doesn't do that for everybody listening. To even get him on this podcast, it was pulling teeth. But I hope everybody enjoyed the last podcast. It was a little bit unique. I listened to it because I hadn't listened to it in a while, 2:27 Speaker 0: it's so funny, we 2:29 Speaker 0: did that a year and 0.5 ago, not even having any of this clue we would be sitting down and having a podcast, but you could tell we jived even back then, man. So that's pretty cool, man. So we are appreciative that so many people are tuning in that the podcast is growing at a very rapid pace and we are very, very, very blessed and we're just stoked that people like it, man. So thank you all for tuning in so much. And these are the good days. I like going through the questions. There's not as many as normal. I was slow to get the link up. I'll be better at that, my friends, but you want me to start us off or you wanna start us off? I 3:05 Speaker 1: will start us off. Why not? Okay, let me get this in front of me. 3:10 Speaker 1: Alright, so what's up guys? I'm a huge fan of you too and you have changed my whole outlook on health and recovery. I'm 3:18 Speaker 1: past 40. 3:19 Speaker 1: I was hesitant about CJC-1295 3:21 Speaker 1: before your last podcast, but now we'll be ordering some. My question is my better 0.5 works out 5 times a week and has a good diet. She wants to tone up a bit, but is nervous about injections. Is there anything that she can take in a pill form or a peptide that has less frequent injections to tone up? She's 43 years young. Good man. Prayers. 3:43 Speaker 1: For a speedy recovery on your back, JD, as I'm considering back surgery myself. Been a firefighter for a long time and my back is not in good shape. God bless. 3:53 Speaker 2: Awesome, 3:54 Speaker 0: Mel. Thank you for that. I thank you. 1st off, that just was thanks for all the kind words within that question. We appreciate you, man. 4:03 Speaker 0: Yeah, my suggestion for your bride, well, SLU-PP-332 4:07 Speaker 0: would be great. It's an exercise on medic, 4:10 Speaker 0: so she might start there. I think it's a great peptide, so she would get a lot out of it for 1. It's in pill form for 2. 4:18 Speaker 0: So start there, but what I would recommend is maybe an NAD that you can do, NAD plus where you can do a Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 4:27 Speaker 0: and get a lot out of it. 4:28 Speaker 0: And to be honest with you, brother, I think the minute she takes her 1st injection, she will realize that it's nothing and 4:36 Speaker 0: she would be open to taking more 4:39 Speaker 0: injections because it's nothing. It's an insulin needle. I've had so many people that are so 4:44 Speaker 0: worried about the injection and I help them do the 1st 1. They're like, That's it? That's it. So 4:50 Speaker 0: then she can move into some different types of peptides like a Tesamorelin and an AOD. 4:56 Speaker 0: I think those 2 would be great for your bride. I have my bride on those 2 and my bride looks amazing. So, yeah, I would start the SLU-PP-332 5:07 Speaker 0: in the pill form, and then I would move and try the NAD, which is maybe she can run Monday, Wednesday, Friday, start there. And I think that will open the door for her realizing that she'll try many more. 5:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. 5:21 Speaker 1: Also, thank you. 5:23 Speaker 1: Thank you for the kind words. 5:25 Speaker 1: Dude, I don't I mean, everything you said, 1st of all, yeah, the injection's nothing. I think the most people find are worried about it, and they do it, and they're like, you know, that's it? Nothing. Big deal. Yeah. Dude, 5:36 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that Reta is amazing even if so it's not like these other, like, 5:43 Speaker 1: semaglutide 5:44 Speaker 1: or or tirzepatide 5:45 Speaker 1: where it's where it's just gonna kill your appetite. It is great for active 5:50 Speaker 1: people who are actually working out because it allows you to have an appetite. She's still gonna be able to eat protein. 5:57 Speaker 1: It is just gonna work 5:59 Speaker 1: wonders and cut her up a little bit. 6:02 Speaker 1: Mean, honestly, it's 3 times a week maximum 6:05 Speaker 1: injection. So if you're gonna do NAD 3 times a week, might as well do Retta, but you can even really just do it twice a week, 6:12 Speaker 1: especially for her. So she's already got good- 6:15 Speaker 1: Eating habits. Good habits and work ethic. Right. So you try that. Give her a little bit of a low dose of of Retta. 6:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. We'll do maybe 3 times in Monday and Friday? Yeah. Yeah. Monday, Thursday Monday, Thursday. Right? We have 7 day weeks, so there can't be perfectly 6:30 Speaker 1: spaced out days. But 6:33 Speaker 1: I haven't tried that, but he's right the SLU-3three 6:36 Speaker 1: 2 in a sublingual 6:39 Speaker 1: tablet. 6:40 Speaker 1: That is the best delivery system. 6:46 Speaker 0: For that peptide in particular. For that peptide in particular. 6:49 Speaker 1: Also, you'll probably find peptides out there like the run, you'll find every injectable peptide in a pill from somebody. Not all of them work, dude. Don't if you just see a peptide like, Oh, look, it's in a pill. It's not going to work. There's too many people out there just trying to make some money and then so they'll just put a peptide in the capsule and say it works, but it really does nothing because it's just not bioavailable 7:10 Speaker 1: in that form. 7:11 Speaker 0: So don't waste your money on that. That's a good I think people need to understand that, that everybody's jumping on the peptide train, everybody's jumping on the peptide train, which is amazing. The thing is, you're obviously gonna piece some people that have just some companies that have just 7:25 Speaker 0: doo doo peptides for 1 and 2, they're going to make peptides with, 7:30 Speaker 0: pep in pill form that shouldn't that just aren't there yet. It's not there yet. Peptides right now, 7:36 Speaker 0: most of them need to be injected. This is the way it is. It is what it is. I think that will progress and get better, but right now that's what it is. Just so you know. So just alright. 7:47 Speaker 0: Alright. Oh, yep. Next warriors. I just I just had surgery last Friday 7:52 Speaker 0: on a cyst on my chest. I 7 stitches. I was thinking of trying GHKCU 7:58 Speaker 0: to help with the healing. Should I take GHKCU 8:01 Speaker 0: or 8:02 Speaker 0: inject near the wound? Will it hurt 8:05 Speaker 0: my stitches? Yes, it will hurt. It will hurt probably quite a bit. So, my suggestion is definitely It'll travel through your body perfectly fine. It will definitely help. It's there for wounds and cuts and scars. That's 1 of the things where GHK- 8:20 Speaker 0: shines. 8:21 Speaker 0: Another idea is what I've been doing for my back, as most people know because I throw it out there, I just had back surgery and on my scar, 8:29 Speaker 0: I have been using the GHKCu 8:32 Speaker 0: Snap 8 Face Serum and rubbing it all over my back 8:37 Speaker 0: on my scar. So that's something that you can rub on the scar that won't sting like a son of a bitch if you inject it near that scar. You're gonna be hurting, dude. So just sub you. Yeah. 8:47 Speaker 1: I mean, I still think 8:49 Speaker 1: I think you're better off taking, like, the Glow blend, doing 8:54 Speaker 1: BPC, TB-five hundred, and GHK- 8:57 Speaker 1: right? GHK- CU is really kind of working on the dermis layer in your skin healing, yes, but 9:03 Speaker 1: BPC- 9:04 Speaker 1: TB-five hundred are gonna do nothing but help. They will also really help 9:09 Speaker 1: the healing of that of that wound. And, 9:14 Speaker 1: you know, if it's BPC, 9:16 Speaker 1: I still would put them all sub q. It will it'll help, and I would do them do them sub q. But, you know, that's 3 times as much money because you're taking 2 extra things. GHKCU 9:26 Speaker 1: is the 1 that will really help the most. 9:28 Speaker 1: And I would go I 9:30 Speaker 1: wouldn't drip it either, like, on the the actual 9:34 Speaker 1: GHKCU. 9:35 Speaker 1: I would use the serum on the wound, but not, 9:39 Speaker 1: like the liquid peptide and then just kind of drip it on there nor really inject right into the site. 9:45 Speaker 2: There you go. All right. 9:47 Speaker 2: Okay, I got you. 9:49 Speaker 1: This is my 1st time using peptides and it's great. I'm running CJC-1295 9:54 Speaker 1: plus Ipamorelin blend 9:57 Speaker 1: with a BPC-157 9:59 Speaker 1: and TB-five hundred, which is also known as Thymosin beta-four. Well, if you're actually getting Thymosin beta-four, which you should be, 10:05 Speaker 1: Blendo for my knees and lower back, which has done wonders for me. 10:10 Speaker 1: Now I'm wanting to use IGF-1LR3, 10:13 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure when to start it because I'm currently running a cycle. So 10:17 Speaker 1: would I wait to cycle off or just start it? Also, what's the best to run with IGF-1LR3 10:24 Speaker 1: and what doses? 10:28 Speaker 2: All right, I'll go. Sure. 10:30 Speaker 1: So, 10:33 Speaker 1: this is good on the CGC IPA, BPC-five 10:36 Speaker 1: hundred, awesome. 10:38 Speaker 1: Okay, so running a cycle, I'm assuming you're doing some like at least testosterone and maybe some other steroids with it. 10:44 Speaker 1: Good for you. I mean, you know, I'm not neither condoning nor saying anything on that 1, but what 10:51 Speaker 1: I would maximize that cycle. I mean, shoot. 10:54 Speaker 1: IGF-1LR-three 10:55 Speaker 1: is really, really, really helping with your nutrient partitioning. Okay? So it is just when you lift weights and we tear our muscles down, now our body needs protein to rebuild those muscles. 11:06 Speaker 1: When 11:08 Speaker 1: taking IGF-1LR-three, 11:10 Speaker 1: is 11:12 Speaker 1: just, I don't know, super feeding. It's just taking all of your damn protein and the carbs that you eat, right, and shoving them in your muscles for maximum, maximum growth. 11:22 Speaker 2: So 11:23 Speaker 1: your body is already repairing, you know, 20 fourseven because that's what steroids do. 11:28 Speaker 1: And it is and your 11:32 Speaker 1: yeah, protein synthesis is going through the roof. I would use it. I would do it about 8 weeks while on the cycle. Okay? Yeah. And eat incredibly well, do what, you know, have a little bit of I would do it post post workout 11:46 Speaker 1: with some carbs and protein at the same time. You want those carbs 11:51 Speaker 1: to help shuttle that protein in there. So I would do it for about 8 weeks on cycle, and then I would, you know, finish the cycle maybe off of that. It doesn't matter when you do it on the cycle right now. 12:03 Speaker 1: Do your post cycle, and then during 12:06 Speaker 1: your post cycle right after that, that's your worst time. Right? There is a little bit of a letdown. 12:11 Speaker 1: You do a post cycle so you don't lose a bunch of muscle, but hell, I mean, I try to stress people. 12:17 Speaker 1: Eat more post cycle. Work out harder post cycle. Right? That's when your muscles really, really 12:23 Speaker 1: need the food. You wanna keep all the gains that you got. So I would run the damn thing again basically right when I, like, finish the post cycle for another 8 weeks and keep lifting and keep eating is really gonna just help get more protein into your damn muscles and make sure you don't go catabolic. You don't lose 12:39 Speaker 1: anything of what you just gained. 12:42 Speaker 1: And that will give you an adequate break because you're cycling it. 8 weeks on during the cycle, 12:48 Speaker 1: take a little bit off, take a month off, do your post cycle, and then do it again. 12:52 Speaker 0: Yeah, because we usually talk about for most peptides to run them a good 90 days. That's generally like a general rule of thumb because you gotta let the peptides do what the peptides do. It's not an overnight thing. You're not going to get to what you want, like a steroid cycle. They're just not there. 13:07 Speaker 0: But IGF-1LR-three 13:09 Speaker 0: is a little bit different. We generally suggest it for about 8 weeks and then take some time off and then run it again. 13:15 Speaker 0: 1 of the cool things that I like to do for people is 13:19 Speaker 0: if you're running steroid cycles, again, no judgment, that's cool. For people that don't know what he's talking about, I'm on cycle, you run on a steroid cycle. 13:26 Speaker 0: When you come off and doing your PCT, 13:29 Speaker 0: take an MK-677, 13:30 Speaker 0: MK-677 13:32 Speaker 0: in particular, 13:33 Speaker 0: would help you increase your own human growth hormone. And just my own personal experience with MK-677 13:40 Speaker 0: is I keep some bulk 13:42 Speaker 0: more than anything. I just got done with the surgery and I'd lost some weight, not as much as I was expecting, to be honest with you, but I haven't ran MK-677 13:50 Speaker 0: in quite a while, 13:52 Speaker 0: and I'm going to start it tonight. Tonight will be my 1st time taking MK-six in quite some time because I'm trying to get some leaner muscle back, bigger muscle back, and MK will help as you come off. Try that. Absolutely. 14:03 Speaker 1: It'll help. It'll boost your hunger too, is 1 of the big parts in the post cycle, right? You're just not feeling as motivated 14:09 Speaker 1: at the gym. You're not feeling as hungry, right? 14:12 Speaker 1: That's why really nobody should be doing cycles unless you already have good work ethic because 14:17 Speaker 1: when you feel a little bit less than, then the quitters quit. 14:21 Speaker 1: Easy 14:22 Speaker 1: easy. You don't wanna be that way. Oh. 14:24 Speaker 0: Takes 14:25 Speaker 0: a little while to get back there. Yeah. I'm 39 and I train CrossFit 6 days a week. Right now, I'm running a low dose of Retatrutide 14:34 Speaker 0: and wrapping up a cycle of CJC-1295 14:37 Speaker 0: Ipamorelin. 14:39 Speaker 0: My goal isn't to drop a ton of weight, 14:42 Speaker 0: but more to lean out and sharpen my performance. 14:45 Speaker 0: What would you recommend a solid next stack to help me keep progressing? 14:51 Speaker 1: To Dylan? Sure. So I would do some for CrossFit 14:55 Speaker 1: athletes 6 days a week, good for you at 39, right on, man, keep going. 14:59 Speaker 1: I would do 15:01 Speaker 1: the SLU-3.3-2sublingual 15:05 Speaker 1: tabs. 15:07 Speaker 1: That also helps you with nutrient partitioning because your body's getting beat up and you need some more vitamin, protein, etcetera in your muscles. It also is a performance enhancer to help your endurance. 15:18 Speaker 1: Another thing to try that is Kargarine AKA GW-five 15:23 Speaker 1: 0 1 5 1 6. 15:25 Speaker 1: That stuff's awesome. I love it. Just boosts the hell out of your endurance and 15:31 Speaker 1: prioritizes 15:34 Speaker 1: fat burning over carbs, kind of similar to what keto does to a person's body. Right? It 15:41 Speaker 1: starts using just your fat for fuel. So you'll notice it to lean you out, but it also your performance and endurance 15:48 Speaker 1: will 15:49 Speaker 1: kick up. I also, 15:51 Speaker 1: well, I don't know. I just, I think red is awesome, even a super low dose to just help your brain. 15:56 Speaker 1: It's a very minimum. 16:00 Speaker 1: But hell, I would even maybe give a couple weeks off to CJC-1295 16:05 Speaker 1: Ipamorelin and start with maybe Tesamorelin to Ipamorelin. Yeah. Or better yet, just start doing some low dose HGH, right? You're 39 years old. You're obviously living 16:17 Speaker 1: hard, you're exercising hard, dude. At a low dose over time, 16:23 Speaker 1: that will do you very good. Now, it's not an immediate fix, but started now and just keep running it. 16:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, cross. 2 IUs a day or something like that, right? And 1st thing in the morning, 16:36 Speaker 1: yeah. 16:38 Speaker 1: Love it. There's a ton of other things there, but, like, you know, again, I don't wanna just stack 10 things on people. I want you to try a few things so you know what is working, what's 16:48 Speaker 1: happening, and then you can go do that again or choose something else to try. 16:52 Speaker 0: Yeah, if you're looking to get ripped and lean, man, I gotta tell you, AOD and the well, HGH is HGH to me is like the holy grail in regards, it's up there with testosterone. Testosterone and HGH is right under it. For anybody over 40, I just think everybody should be running low dose of HGH. That's 2 IUs. No more. You don't need anymore. Again, like Will said, it's a longer play. It takes a while for you really to kind of hit the stride on that, but you'll notice after 6 months of human growth hormone that you will be able to lean up a little bit quicker. You just notice it. So I would say that you're 39, you're getting to that, maybe throw in 2 IUs of HGH in the morning. 17:27 Speaker 0: And dude, I would throw in maybe an AOD in the morning and a Tesamorelin at night. You want to get ripped? Those will do it, man. That really would. If you're still going to keep the little bit of Retatrutide, 17:37 Speaker 0: those 4 will rip you up, I promise. 17:40 Speaker 2: 100%. That's true. They will rip 5Amino-1MQ you 17:44 Speaker 0: too, man. 5Amino's great, man. 5Amino's great. Shoot. That's the beautiful thing about peptides, man. There are so many, and they do so many that do just amazing 17:53 Speaker 0: things, man. 17:54 Speaker 1: MOTS-1.1 17:55 Speaker 1: in 17:56 Speaker 1: combination, like high doses of SS-thirty 1, right, to help your mitochondrial 18:01 Speaker 1: energy and increase 18:05 Speaker 1: increase 18:06 Speaker 1: your energy just on your yeah, cellular energy. 18:10 Speaker 1: There's a ton of things to try, but try some things incrementally. 18:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. 18:15 Speaker 0: Alright, am I I never felt NAD plus 18:18 Speaker 0: like other people when they say they feel it instantly. 18:22 Speaker 0: Does that mean I don't need it? Is it common, but it's still doing something? My husband as well doesn't feel anything. 18:29 Speaker 0: Well, my answer to that is I don't really know exactly what you're looking to feel. I would imagine you're you're saying that you wanna feel more energetic. That's 1 of the things, kind of pure 18:39 Speaker 0: energy that I know a lot of people get with NAD. 18:41 Speaker 0: But I can't tell you that 18:43 Speaker 0: I'm not really expecting, not understanding what you're expecting to feel instantly. 18:48 Speaker 0: Only 18:49 Speaker 0: peptide, in my opinion, that you're gonna see results almost instantly is gonna be a GLP-one peptide, Semaglutide, Tirzepatide, 18:57 Speaker 0: Retatrutide, 18:58 Speaker 0: which we obviously lean more towards Retatrutide these days. This was the superior GLP-one. 19:03 Speaker 0: You'll notice those right away, but NAD, I can't say that you should expect to really feel anything. 19:09 Speaker 0: I don't know, man. Will, you got anything else on that? Yeah, I am definitely the type of person that doesn't feel 19:16 Speaker 1: drugs in general very 19:19 Speaker 1: much. You know, I have know people will say, 19:22 Speaker 1: Oh, try this. They're like, Oh, this is amazing. 19:25 Speaker 1: The trees look clearer. 19:27 Speaker 1: And I go, All right, I guess I feel it. No. 19:30 Speaker 1: So 19:31 Speaker 1: I have had tons of people tell me that, 19:35 Speaker 1: yeah, they feel their NAD, like, feel more energy, but brain fog list you know, lifted 19:40 Speaker 1: and feel a lot more clarity of thought. 19:43 Speaker 2: Instantly. 19:44 Speaker 1: And not instantly. So the instant, not instantly, but after a few weeks of consistently taking it, I think that 1st of all, to answer this question though, 19:55 Speaker 1: well, the instant effects from from NAD is any like potential like tingling sensation. 20:00 Speaker 1: Okay? Some people like that. High dose? Some people, yeah, you need to get a bit higher dose. Some people like it. I've personally done it in extremely high dose and it made me go like overwhelming 20:11 Speaker 1: tingly, 20:12 Speaker 1: like I couldn't move. That was too much, and I don't think anybody's gonna enjoy that. But you need to slowly kinda work your way up, right, to to find your correct dose. 20:23 Speaker 1: If you and people will, like hell, my girlfriend's like, I can't I can't take it at night because it gives me a little bit too much energy. Now she didn't do that after the 1st injection. She's now it's built up in her system. Right? She's been consistent, 20:35 Speaker 1: but she still will feel a little bit of a a, yeah, a little energy boost day of, 20:40 Speaker 1: but 20:40 Speaker 1: I sure as hell notice 20:43 Speaker 1: that, 20:44 Speaker 1: dude, I look my skin I don't know. My skin looks tighter. 20:48 Speaker 1: I literally look a little bit younger 20:50 Speaker 1: when I'm 20:52 Speaker 1: I'm actually on it. 20:54 Speaker 1: So but that takes that takes a little bit of time. 20:57 Speaker 1: 2 months, 20:58 Speaker 0: and it even can be I ran long think that's important, brother. Like, for example, like, again, kind of circling back around, most peptides, we think that you need to run them for a good, I don't know, at least 60, if not 90 days. Give it time to do what the peptide does. It's not an instant fix. You're not going to get anything right away. 21:17 Speaker 0: Let it compound, let it build up, let it do what it does. And you just got to have some patience in 21:23 Speaker 0: regards to the question once again. 21:26 Speaker 0: I wouldn't expect to feel anything instantaneously 21:28 Speaker 0: anyway, 21:29 Speaker 0: but you wanna make sure you're getting it from a good provider, 21:33 Speaker 0: obviously. If you're getting bunk stuff, then you're getting bunk stuff. 21:37 Speaker 0: But 21:38 Speaker 0: NAD is great, I'm glad that you're trying it, let it build up, maybe take it every day if you're doing it Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Troy around with it a little bit, man, can 21:46 Speaker 0: take quite a bit of NAD. So 21:49 Speaker 0: I've said it numerous times, we're all science projects, it's not 1 size fits all just because your friend feels it here. You need to find where you 21:57 Speaker 0: shine. So that 21:59 Speaker 1: takes a little time. Yep, it does. And I start and we start low, right? Everybody's tolerance is different. I'd say 5 mg 22:06 Speaker 1: and work your way up by 5 mg increments, 3 days a week up to, you know, well, 25. I 22:12 Speaker 1: personally think that like 25 mg 22:15 Speaker 1: per injection 3 days a week is a good spot. I know for effect. I know people who are doing 100 mg 22:22 Speaker 1: 3 times a week. 22:24 Speaker 1: I don't know if our body really can 22:27 Speaker 1: all of that. Right. Yeah. 22:30 Speaker 1: But make sure you're taking enough and stay consistent. It's all, I mean, this stuff with these peptides, you gotta be consistent. 22:38 Speaker 1: Don't quit 5 minutes before the miracle happened. 22:42 Speaker 0: True that. Don't jump off before you get it. Alright, is VIP a good peptide for sleep apnea? 22:49 Speaker 0: If not, what would you recommend? 22:52 Speaker 1: Sleep? Yeah. My answer, I don't 22:55 Speaker 1: see any evidence for VIP being a good peptide for sleep apnea. 22:59 Speaker 1: I guess, the question may be 23:03 Speaker 1: what symptoms of sleep apnea do you not do you not like? I mean, what are the major bothering ones? Is it because you are waking yourself up and you're not getting restful sleep? Is it because you're pissing your wife off because you snore a ton and you're and you're being really loud? 23:17 Speaker 1: What are we trying to, what are we trying to combat about that sleep apnea? Obviously, all of it, like, let's get rid of all of it would be awesome. So, 23:25 Speaker 1: I would try, well, I just, I actually just saw a commercial for 23:29 Speaker 1: Tirzepatide 23:30 Speaker 1: being marketed, 23:33 Speaker 1: which means it had to have an FDA approval for sleep apnea, 23:38 Speaker 1: which actually kind of blew my mind. As I looked it up, that seems to be true. 23:43 Speaker 1: And personally, I would go with Reta, okay? It's got the same dang thing that Tirzepatide has, right? Same thing except for just the GI, the G, the 23:53 Speaker 1: GCG 23:55 Speaker 1: portion of it is in addition. So 23:58 Speaker 1: that is literally like conclusively studied to reduce to make sleep apnea better. 24:04 Speaker 1: Also, what helps with that is losing weight. So maybe that's why. Maybe that's probably that probably would help. That's probably why. It's helping people stop snoring. 24:13 Speaker 1: DSIP, 24:15 Speaker 1: Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide, right? If the issue is, hey, I'm not getting enough sleep because I keep waking myself up, well, that will help you get into REM sleep and actually help you get restful sleep 24:23 Speaker 1: for the times that you are asleep. You know? You'll get more restful sleep. And, you know, Thymosin Alpha helps with inflammation. 24:31 Speaker 1: Oftentimes, 24:32 Speaker 1: well, snoring, 24:33 Speaker 1: it was due to just inflammation 24:36 Speaker 1: here in your, like, airways. That absolutely might help. 24:42 Speaker 0: Yeah. I would imagine, 24:43 Speaker 0: like, 24:44 Speaker 0: obviously, we don't know, since you've made a question, but, you know, you're probably in need of some losing some weight as as most people that snore heavily 24:52 Speaker 0: are bigger. So try that. Try the Tirzepatide or actually try the Retatrutide. 24:57 Speaker 0: Try that, see if that will work for you, and drop some weight, see if that helps with the snoring, the DSIP, maybe add that in too. There you go. Try those. As always, you circle back 25:07 Speaker 0: around to you gotta try it, man. You just gotta try some of these things. So there's a suggestion. DSIP and Retatrutide. 25:13 Speaker 0: Try that. 25:14 Speaker 1: Yep. All right. 25:16 Speaker 1: In your experience with testosterone and finding your correct dosage, have you ever had any side effects in your journey? 25:25 Speaker 1: I'll start. You want start? Go for it. I'll do it. Absolutely. 25:29 Speaker 1: Like, yes, 25:31 Speaker 1: there are side effects that come. And we all you're right to use the right term, journey, right? We all need to find our own sweet spot. So when we do testosterone, 25:40 Speaker 1: it converts into 2 different things, which is estrogen and DHT, 25:44 Speaker 1: dihydrotestosterone. 25:46 Speaker 1: Estrogen is the most common symptom. Your main 3 things that you're looking for is any nipple sensitivity. 25:52 Speaker 1: That's not good. K? That's the start of gynecomastia. 25:56 Speaker 1: That means your body is trying to build fat right under your nipple. It's not the fat that you can burn off. It's the fat you have to cut out. 26:03 Speaker 1: And left unchecked, 26:05 Speaker 1: if this thing if they are sore and you let them stay sore, you will start to grow fat. Okay? 26:11 Speaker 1: So nipple sensitivity, 26:13 Speaker 1: acne, 26:14 Speaker 1: right, side effect of that, you know, nobody wants especially getting dotted out in your shoulders, 26:19 Speaker 1: back. 26:19 Speaker 1: Right. That's estrogen. I guarantee you estrogen. Estrogen blocker will block take care of that. Yep. 26:25 Speaker 1: And water retention. K? If you're if you're retaining water everywhere 26:30 Speaker 1: and you look just a little bit plumper, that's estrogen. 26:34 Speaker 1: Mood swings as well, like like 26:37 Speaker 1: more sensitive 26:39 Speaker 1: feeling, 26:40 Speaker 1: like the mood mood being sensitive like a woman, 26:43 Speaker 1: that's also estrogen. So those all can be combated with an estrogen blocker and aromatase 26:49 Speaker 1: inhibitor, Arimidex, 26:51 Speaker 1: Aromasin, 26:52 Speaker 1: Letrozole, 26:52 Speaker 1: if you're if I don't know. If you got a real, real bad problem. Yeah. That's strong. 26:57 Speaker 1: But the goal there is basically, hey. We should feel no side effect. You don't wanna feel any of those side effect. K? If you're feeling those, your estrogen is too high. What you do is you you take your AI. K. Let's call it Arimidex. Right? I would take a milligram 3 times a week 27:12 Speaker 1: till those symptoms, whatever symptom. If you have 1 of those or all 3, it doesn't matter. We we don't want any of them. Take it 3 times a week until the symptoms are gone. Okay? Go 1 more week, taking 3 a week to make sure you're stable and they are gone. Then I would slowly incrementally 27:28 Speaker 1: pull 27:29 Speaker 1: 1 of those doses. So now we go next week to 2 a week. Okay? Hey, no symptoms? Awesome. Let's pull 1. Let's go to 1 a week. Oh, hey, if a little bit of symptoms came back, well, your sweet spot was probably 2 27:41 Speaker 1: mg, evenly spaced out. You can even do the 0.5 a pill, making it 0.5 a milligram. The goal is to take as little of the AIs as possible, 27:49 Speaker 1: yet still have no side effects 27:52 Speaker 1: whatsoever. 27:53 Speaker 0: Right. 27:54 Speaker 1: Estrogen is your main culprit. DHT, 27:57 Speaker 1: okay, 27:58 Speaker 1: DST 27:59 Speaker 1: can cause your pores to close-up. This is why people lose hair, 28:04 Speaker 1: And 28:06 Speaker 1: it can cause acne because your pores are getting closed up a little bit. It can swell your prostate, can feel a bit swollen if you're only peeing. 28:12 Speaker 1: If you're peeing, not emptying your bladder fully, 28:15 Speaker 1: finasteride, 28:16 Speaker 1: dutasteride 28:16 Speaker 1: is the answer there. Although, 28:19 Speaker 1: people have some gnarly side effects to those things, like loss of sex drive, like, gone completely. 28:24 Speaker 1: I'll take like I'll notice some DHT issues, mostly 28:29 Speaker 1: because of my prostate being swollen slightly. I take 1 28:32 Speaker 1: finasteride 28:34 Speaker 1: day 1, day 2, and it's gone. Then I don't have to take it again for another 6 months. 28:39 Speaker 1: So I don't get any side effects. But hell yeah, man, you just gotta find your way. Some people JD, go ahead with your opinion. Yeah, I mean, 28:46 Speaker 0: for me in particular, 28:48 Speaker 0: it's just, man, from day 1 of me injecting testosterone, 28:52 Speaker 0: it converted to estrogen quickly. I learned it quickly when I was younger and didn't do things properly in my early 20s, 28:58 Speaker 0: you know, when things weren't so readily available to study, nor would I probably have done it anyway. You know, I was running cycles and doing things not properly, 29:07 Speaker 0: and I generated bad gynecomastia 29:10 Speaker 0: in this world. Well, I eventually got it cut out. But even after having it cut out, I still get it. It can come back. For those of you that think that once you get it cut out, it's still there, man. That sucker can still grow. I'm living proof. So I've had to battle that for a long time. And just letting you know that, I've had to battle it and I've had to try a lot of different amounts. 29:30 Speaker 0: Estrogen blocker, it has taken me a long time. I don't even take an AI anymore. Just my sweet spot is 180 mg of testosterone, 29:38 Speaker 0: and I'm good right there. My energy's solid. 29:41 Speaker 0: My sex drive is solid. 29:43 Speaker 0: That's taken me a long time to get to that bottom line, 29:48 Speaker 0: quite some time. So that's 1. 2 is your balls can shrink in longevity. You run testosterone replacement for a longer period, men are known to do their balls to shrink, like literally. 30:00 Speaker 0: HCG, 30:01 Speaker 0: if you run testosterone, 30:03 Speaker 0: I think most men should run HCG Monday, Wednesday, Friday anyway. It'll keep you fertile. So for guys like me that my wife keeps pecking them out here for another baby, I can't even believe she says that. I'm 48 years old. But I 30:16 Speaker 0: run HCG Monday, Wednesday, Friday at a higher dose than most because of that. But 2, it helps your balls from not shrinking. 30:25 Speaker 0: If they've shrunk, it's not going to grow them back, but it will help. 30:29 Speaker 0: That's another thing of a negative of testosterone replacement is your ball shrinking. 30:35 Speaker 0: All in all 30:37 Speaker 0: positives outweigh the negatives, but again, when you're starting this journey, 30:43 Speaker 0: you're not going to know everything overnight. You are a science project. I am a science project. 30:48 Speaker 0: And you have to figure out your own science project, and that takes time. So therefore, I think everybody's goal should be to get to less is more. Like for example, I used to have to run higher 31:00 Speaker 0: Rimadex. 31:01 Speaker 0: I don't have to anymore. I found my way around that. I don't want to take Rimadex if I don't have to, 31:08 Speaker 0: but that's taken a lot of times. Again, put in the time, take it slow. If you're just starting TRT, maybe start like 150 mg. 31:16 Speaker 0: Most doctors prescribe 200 mg, most, I'm just saying most. 31:21 Speaker 0: And not everybody does well at 200 31:24 Speaker 0: testosterone 31:25 Speaker 0: a week. 31:27 Speaker 0: So I'd start low, try it for 3 weeks, see how you feel. Again, as Will said, if you start getting sensitive in your nipple, itchy in your nipple, like if somebody rubs against your nipple, you're starting to get gynecomastia 31:39 Speaker 0: and don't trust me, you don't want it. So Rimadex is gonna be what you want with that stuff. Yeah, and I can attest to JD-nine 20 31:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the more testosterone you run, the higher, the estrogen 31:50 Speaker 1: you're gonna create. 100. 31:52 Speaker 1: J. D. Says he doesn't take an estrogen blocker anymore. It's because he just doesn't run high doses of testosterone. 31:58 Speaker 1: Okay? So if you keep Some people can manage it with estrogen blockers, some can't, right? Generally, 32:05 Speaker 1: 400 32:05 Speaker 1: mg a week is kind of the anabolic threshold. That's when we're talking like a steroid dose, right, where some people think of steroids. 32:12 Speaker 1: Like, you're gonna start to need an estrogen blocker. A lot of people will not need 1 if you're running less than 400. Okay? It's everybody's 32:19 Speaker 1: it's up to everybody. Also, you know, yeah, man, this journey, right, I've had times where 32:25 Speaker 1: I've taken too much of the estrogen blockers, k, and or and or taking it too early where I didn't need it. And now what it is doing is killing off all the estrogen we want. Men, we need some estrogen. Okay? Okay. So now it killed off all of all of my estrogen, and my body fought back and started saying, well, shit. I need more. Right? And now it's working twice as hard to create estrogen. 32:46 Speaker 1: I shot myself in the foot, and the answer there was to just 32:50 Speaker 1: stop the cycle of of of trying to kill it off. I actually had to just lower the theft, 32:55 Speaker 1: stop the estrogen blockers, let my body balance itself out. K? And it stopped making so much estrogen just by stopping the estrogen blockers, to be honest. 33:05 Speaker 1: Also, hey. Yeah. There is a thing that's taking too many estrogen blockers. K? You will notice kind of the opposite side of it. Your your sex drive will be, 33:14 Speaker 1: like, nonexistent 33:15 Speaker 1: if you have no estrogen. 33:17 Speaker 1: Joints will start hurting. You won't have any water. Your joints will hurt because you're purging all of your water. Right? We need to retain a little bit of water. Joints will start hurting. 33:27 Speaker 1: A little bit of fatigue and cardiovascular 33:30 Speaker 1: letdown. If you start getting winded too fast, walking up the stairs when you shouldn't be, your estrogen, you probably crashed your estrogen. So 33:37 Speaker 1: there's some things to manage, dude, and we're and you're messing with your hormones. So less is more, like he said. Right? Start small. 33:46 Speaker 1: Don't save $5 and buy some shit off of somebody in their garage because it was $5 cheaper. That's just dumb, dumb. This is stuff, you're messing with your own hormones, man. Get good stuff if you're gonna do it 33:59 Speaker 1: and 34:00 Speaker 1: start small. 34:01 Speaker 0: Yo, baby. What's up, warriors? When did you guy 34:06 Speaker 0: where do you guys get your HGH? 34:08 Speaker 0: What brand do you use? I've been looking online to see Somatropin 34:13 Speaker 0: is the generic name, but I see different brand names starting, they help with different 34:19 Speaker 0: deficiencies. 34:20 Speaker 0: Thanks for the input. Follow-up question, JD, how these surgery, how does the 34:26 Speaker 0: eyes are so bad. JD, did these surgeries recover compared to your previous surgery? 34:31 Speaker 0: I'll take that part and Will, you can take the 2nd part. Great question. Thanks for asking. I've had 4 back surgeries. 34:37 Speaker 0: Took my last, my 1st, I've had 3 micro discectomies and I've had a fusion. 34:42 Speaker 0: This doctor, 34:43 Speaker 0: I'm south a lot of doctors this time. I interviewed a lot of doctors and I did say interview. I wanted a good doctor And he actually took the screws 34:52 Speaker 0: and the bolts out of my fusion from 13 years ago. 34:57 Speaker 0: But here's the thing, guys, I know a lot of people are against surgery. I am not. I was in really bad pain for 2 months. Mean, 35:06 Speaker 0: we'll know you saw that every day. I muscled through it. A pretty I go to work and still work 12 hour days, but man, I was in pain. It really was affecting me and I didn't know until I had the surgery, until I realized my mindset was off. 35:19 Speaker 0: So yeah, I think people should probably get the surgery instead of staying in that horrible, horrible, horrible pain. I woke up and was like, 35:27 Speaker 0: but I did a lot to do the recovery. I took a ton of TB-five hundred BPC blend, a ton, like a high, high doses. 35:34 Speaker 0: I went into a hyperbaric chamber for 5 days. I fasted more than I fasted. And even the doctor, when I talked to him last, he was blown away by how fast I was healing. So I was trying to help. I was trying to expedite. So thanks for your question. I think some people, if you're in really bad pain in your back, 35:51 Speaker 0: I think it is the 35:52 Speaker 0: discectomy is not that big of a deal, guys. Yeah. Agreed. 35:56 Speaker 1: So quickly, I've had a double discectomy in my S-1L-five 36:01 Speaker 1: disc and my L-fourL-five 36:02 Speaker 1: disc, and I wish I would not have waited so damn long to take the surgery. Yeah. 36:06 Speaker 1: 2 epidurals put in me. Was at point where, you know, my bottom of my foot was like the pain was all the way down there. I was fucking miserable. 36:15 Speaker 1: And I had this done 10 ago. My recovery was 36:19 Speaker 1: not good. 36:20 Speaker 1: It took Really? Because, well, I dealt with the pain for so long for too long. Right? And just kinda drank alcohol over it. Right? Their pain pills didn't do anything to me. 36:31 Speaker 1: So I had, like, a I had a actual, like, visible nick in my nerve, they said, and just nerves take forever 36:37 Speaker 1: forever to heal. So but, apparently, the technology 36:41 Speaker 1: has gotten a lot better since I had mine. 36:44 Speaker 1: And, dude, I know people yeah. Like, in your recovery is crazy. You look like you were never hurting, and you were miserable for a long time before that. So I'm a fan of surgeries. I don't know. I guess maybe it's because I never had anything bad happen in a surgery. Right? 37:00 Speaker 0: Yeah, true. Like, you may- Yeah, you know, I get it. It's not bad, like, I took the time to get the right surgeon. I basically, for lack of a better way, better way to say it, I turned down 5. 5 guys that were different and they were more aggressive, and this guy was subtle, he was calm, and like, I knew he was my guy. Yeah, that's true. I knew he was my guy. So, 37:18 Speaker 0: energy- I 37:19 Speaker 1: even got my whole stomach lined with metal mesh to try to fix what they thought was in guinal hernia and they woke me up and they said, well, I couldn't find any hernia, but we just we put the metal mesh in both sides of your lower stomach. 37:32 Speaker 1: Like, great. Well, it still hurts in the same exact place. And literally, I went to Beverly Hills surgeons 37:37 Speaker 1: to try and find how can I fix this sports hernia? 37:41 Speaker 1: The only solution was a non 37:43 Speaker 1: insurance option in Philadelphia where all the pro athletes go and, 37:48 Speaker 1: or clip my nerve, which is right down there, 37:52 Speaker 1: and I wasn't willing to have that happen. So I did some hip loosening exercises and did a heavy round of TB 500, and it healed. Amazing. After 10 years, dude. I couldn't even roll over in bed at night without, like, lifting my own leg. 38:05 Speaker 1: Fucking healed. A miracle. Alright, back to your question about the Sterostim. Yeah. 38:12 Speaker 0: You can DM me if you would need some I can give you some guidance on the places that I know, but just DM me on my Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. DM him for on your questions about the HGH and where 38:25 Speaker 1: to get it. But the quick so somatropin 38:29 Speaker 1: is the generic name for all of this recombinant 38:33 Speaker 1: human growth hormone. Okay? They're all somatropins. 38:36 Speaker 1: What you see is Cerebrostem, 38:38 Speaker 1: what's it, Gentropin, 38:40 Speaker 1: Nordotropin, 38:42 Speaker 1: right? Those brand 38:45 Speaker 1: names, like patented 38:47 Speaker 1: names by different companies. 38:49 Speaker 1: And 38:50 Speaker 1: you may see, Oh, it's for this deficiency. Well, it's because they did their FDA testing, right? They spent their money to get FDA approved on this specific little condition, 38:59 Speaker 1: right? 39:00 Speaker 1: So they can post that in their marketing materials. 39:03 Speaker 1: But really it's all the same thing. The only difference of what's a patented different name is just because of the delivery system, right? Like 39:10 Speaker 1: Cerebrostem, 39:11 Speaker 1: it happens to, it is just, it's Somatropin that comes in 39:15 Speaker 1: lyophilized powder vials that you need to add your own, you know, bacteriostatic water to. Okay? 39:21 Speaker 1: Nordotrope, 39:22 Speaker 1: I think, I forget the name, but that comes in a injectable pen. Same drug, different delivery system, 39:29 Speaker 1: does the same thing. 39:31 Speaker 1: So 39:32 Speaker 1: that's it. As long as you get good somatropin 39:35 Speaker 1: that 39:37 Speaker 1: is backed and tested and legitimate, 39:40 Speaker 1: then you should be just fine. It's all the same. All that matters is how much you give yourself. 39:46 Speaker 1: Debt. Okay. Good 1. Good. I'll read this 1. So, warriors, I recently started my peptide research and have been keeping a journal of my peptide dosages 39:57 Speaker 1: and effects I feel and see. I went online to see if there's a timetable or timeline of peptide taking effect or 40:05 Speaker 1: when I should feel the effects. Right? I found your podcast is the most informative thus far. Good. 40:10 Speaker 1: My question is, to your knowledge, do you know of any personal journal that have been published or posted so I can compare my notes? Thank you for your time and answer. 40:21 Speaker 1: I will answer the last part. So 40:25 Speaker 1: I don't know of any, I don't know, it's the same journal. 1st of all, all of the dosages and timelines are different for every single peptide, so there's no generic answer. If you go on to Reddit, which I'm sure that you probably have, there are a ton of people who are sharing their own personal results now, 40:41 Speaker 1: and some of that can be helpful, but just realize that that's everybody's 40:45 Speaker 1: posting their own personal opinion similar to what JD and I are doing, so I'll take that for what it's worth. But 40:52 Speaker 1: they are 40:53 Speaker 1: telling you, I guess, what happened to them and then and don't take that as as as bond forever. Right? Like, they 41:01 Speaker 1: just because they experience 1 thing doesn't mean that that's what the drug does. That's what the peptide does for everybody. This is what it does. Yeah. That's what people say. Hey. Since it happened to me, this is what it does every single time to everybody. Right? Don't don't don't do that. Right? Everybody's different. Bodies are different. There's a good website, 41:19 Speaker 1: peptideresearchinstitute.org. 41:23 Speaker 1: That has a lot of different peptides and information on dosages and how long you should take it, 41:31 Speaker 1: etcetera. Check that out. 41:34 Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, I can't be more helpful 41:37 Speaker 1: on specifics 41:38 Speaker 0: for every single peptide. It's tough. It's a lot of information. There's a lot on that website. Check that out. Yeah. Does anyone else's L Carnitine draw into insulin syringe slow? 41:48 Speaker 0: I try letting it get to the room temperature, but it doesn't seem to help. Maybe it's just a thicker pep. Any suggestions? Yeah, I have used it many, many times. It's a great peptide. No, don't try it at insulin syringe. You'll be here till Christmas. 42:03 Speaker 0: Use a typical, like, syringe that you would use for your testosterone. 42:07 Speaker 0: What I do, like last week, I showed you the draw pen. I use a draw pen to get out the 42:12 Speaker 0: peptide into the and I drew 1 mil, that's a lot, 1 mil, and then I switch it to a 42:18 Speaker 0: shoulder pen, but I don't put it in my shoulder, I put it in the top of my butt. 42:22 Speaker 0: And that's how I do L Carnitine. So no, I suggest you do not use insulin. It's not, it won't, it'll be, it'll take forever, too long. It is just the nature of the beast, dude. It's a thicker compound that isn't gonna draw out 42:35 Speaker 0: through that tiny little needle. 42:38 Speaker 0: I mean, anybody that's gonna try carnitine, man, I mean, I love it. It's such a great peptide. I mean, it does so good. But man, to be honest with you, pinning 1 mil every day, it gets old real quick. Yeah. It's a lot. 42:49 Speaker 1: Switch the sights. 42:51 Speaker 1: Shoulders, glutes, 42:53 Speaker 1: and even like last time that we fell on, right, you could use an insulin pen, but you better backfill it. 42:59 Speaker 1: You know, 43:00 Speaker 1: through that with just the suction of the plunger 43:04 Speaker 1: is not gonna be helpful. You may wanna draw it with a bigger pen, pull the plunger out, backfill the insulin 1. But I don't know, I mean, the shoulder pin is really dang small. 20 27 43:14 Speaker 1: 27 gauge, 0.5 inch. 43:17 Speaker 1: That's generally shoulder 1. He can do it in his glute because he's freaking lean. 43:21 Speaker 1: But if you have some fat on your glutes, 43:24 Speaker 1: right, and you're only doing just 0.5 inch pin, 43:28 Speaker 1: you better depress your skin a lot and make sure it gets into the muscle. 43:32 Speaker 1: K? Here you go. All right, thoughts on effectiveness 43:36 Speaker 1: of Sermorelin? 43:39 Speaker 0: Let me take it. Well, Sermorelin, I mean, anybody, 43:42 Speaker 0: I mean, there's so many screedagogs, 43:44 Speaker 0: I mean, that would probably be the least of my favorites. So my thoughts on it is there's better ones. 43:50 Speaker 0: Matter of opinion, you could get ask 10 guys and get 10 different. I mean, again, circling back around, 43:55 Speaker 0: try them all. Try them all for a while. I would say the secretagogs, 43:59 Speaker 0: try each 1 for 90 days. Those you should run for 90 days. Do Yeah. You notice a difference on any? I don't know. I mean, I can tell you Tesamorelin for me helps me sleep better. If I'm going to choose a secretagogue, 44:12 Speaker 0: I personally choose the Tesamorelin 44:14 Speaker 0: because it does focus in right on that belly fat. Why would we not? 44:18 Speaker 0: They all do a little bit of the same thing a little bit differently, so that's why you want to try them and everybody's body's different, so they might respond to them differently. 44:27 Speaker 0: But to circle back to your question, thoughts on effectiveness, I think it's great. Try it. I think there's better ones. 44:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, 44:33 Speaker 1: I would kind of agree. So, Sermorelin is a GHRH, 44:38 Speaker 1: just like Tesamorelin 44:40 Speaker 1: is, unlike Ipaborelin 44:42 Speaker 1: or even MK-six 77, 44:44 Speaker 1: which is really a non peptide secretagog. 44:47 Speaker 1: But 44:48 Speaker 1: it's a growth hormone releasing hormone, okay, 44:51 Speaker 1: and it's 44:52 Speaker 1: it is just 44:53 Speaker 1: yeah, it's not as 44:56 Speaker 1: as strong as Tesamorelin. 45:00 Speaker 1: It does basically the same thing, but I would choose Tesamorelin more. Tesamorelin is going to be more expensive, 45:05 Speaker 1: for sure. 45:06 Speaker 1: Sermorelin 45:07 Speaker 1: will be more like your natural 45:11 Speaker 1: growth hormone because it's, 45:12 Speaker 1: well, not as strong. It's a little bit faster acting and just like our pulses, even though Tesamorelin does that too, but 45:20 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a little bit slower acting, but still a faster acting 1. So I've also read a lot of literature and 45:27 Speaker 1: saying that Sermorelin may 45:30 Speaker 1: increase libido a bit better. 45:32 Speaker 1: Frankly, I can't really explain the science and I don't know why 45:36 Speaker 1: or if that's even true. 45:37 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 45:41 Speaker 1: There's my thoughts. There's Tesamorelin's 45:43 Speaker 1: better. Easy peasy. But try it out, man. Try everything out. I'm all. 45:48 Speaker 0: Alright, good morning. I'm looking for a peptide. Can you help me that helps me feel better. Looking for a shop in Orange County. Well, guys, 45:56 Speaker 0: on that guy, just shoot me a DM if you follow me. I'm sure you're following me on Instagram. 46:00 Speaker 0: I can maybe answer that question. It's a little bit vague, but just shoot me a DM and I can probably answer that a little bit better. 46:08 Speaker 0: Cool? 46:09 Speaker 0: Dude, well, we went a little longer than usual, but, that was awesome. Will's back. It's good to have him back. And, shoot, man. I hope you guys enjoy it, and, we'll catch you, what, next next, Tuesday, we'll be recording the pod peptide of the week, and it'll drop on, I think, Thursday. So hope everybody has an amazing 46:29 Speaker 0: rest of their weekend. What do got, Will? Anything else? Thank you. I'm 46:33 Speaker 1: happy to hear that people are being helped through what we do, right, and answer a lot of questions. I know it's just, it is tough out there on the internet, right? Everybody's got their own opinion. It's tough to find, you know, and again, we're just giving our opinion, but I like to think that we've done a lot of research 46:48 Speaker 1: on ourselves and witnessed a whole, I mean, thousands of people. A lot of people. Please 46:55 Speaker 1: keep coming with the questions. 46:57 Speaker 1: We're happy to answer them, man. I mean, we believe in this stuff. I absolutely believe in it. I know this stuff is is great and works for you, 47:05 Speaker 1: me, and 47:06 Speaker 0: yeah, keep using it, dude. We're happy to help. Love it, man. We will catch you guys on the flip side. Everybody take care. Good night.