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0:15Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay, big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
0:22Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me, actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
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0:57Speaker 3I'm your host, JD Denham. Like always, to my left side is Mr. William T. Haas, my co host.
1:13Speaker 3Will and myself and Mr. Paul back to you are a lot of, a lot of guys that, we respect. So he's a wealth of knowledge. So we wanted to bring him on the podcast
1:31Speaker 3which is the coolest last name ever seen. I always said denim's pretty damn cool too, but, Vandel's up there.
1:38Speaker 3Thanks for guys. Yeah. Welcome dude. It's good to get you on the show, man. Yeah. I've heard every
1:44Speaker 3episode. So it's nice to be on it now. Yeah. I want to actually, let's tell the story about how I met Mike. It's a great story. Mike is
1:52Speaker 3if you will, my little protege, I've kind of taken him under my wing because I respect him. I think he's awesome. So let me tell you the story of how I met him. So I had back surgery, I don't even remember that. And
2:04Speaker 3my beautiful bride got me a hyperbaric company to come out and I'd do, I think 5, 5, 7 days is what we did. 1st day, it was the owner. Next, most of the days came back. It was Mike and Michael. And he, we
2:22Speaker 3I think I showed it to you. I don't think you had listened to it at that point, but he started listening to it because every time he came back, he had questions. And then after we stayed in touch and every time I talked to him, he had listened to the podcast and asked many, many, many questions. He was more
2:44Speaker 3always say that if you want to get in the rooms with the men that'll change your life, need to have a damn good knock. And I started to cultivate that when I met my mentor,
3:05Speaker 3yeah, that's when Will and I decided to take them under our wing and do some training with him. And then even Paul got involved. And so cool story, man. It's how I met you. Thought it's a great story. And now, and now everybody who we run into that needs like a supplement,
3:36Speaker 1increase your worth. How do you do that? Study, you study, right? Become a student of your craft. Also know I'm looking at you, you're young. And when we, when I 1st met this guy,
3:51Speaker 1like, fully done up and souped up cars that were not cheap. I'm like, how the hell do you have so many cars that are that expensive
3:59Speaker 1and then in different Rolexes? So you've done some things right in your life. I have. I'm a student of his craft, man. Just studied. Awesome.
4:10Speaker 4Yeah. I grew up poor too. That also helped cause I had to fix everything myself and figure it out. Couldn't pay somebody to do it. So
4:24Speaker 1Yeah. And go 1 of 2 ways. Yeah. You can either figure it out or just be a victim your whole life. It's good for you.
4:39Speaker 3And it's been a big deal, many times when I've thought about it and then we've just been busy as hell, but, 1
4:46Speaker 3of the coolest things, at least for me, when we went up to Prague was not just being there and seeing such a different culture and whatnot, but for me, because I have 2 young kids, don't get a lot of time to think of without a lot of screaming when I'm at home and whatnot. So I had about a week to not have that. And even though I missed my family,
5:03Speaker 3I did a lot of thinking and praying and centering myself and Will stayed on and went to Italy and is getting hitched. But I came back and I was like, dude, let's just get after this. Let's do this. You know, it's really when that said, knew we just got to jump in. Thymalon was perfect. So we've put time into it.
5:20Speaker 3already passed when you were listening to this, but it's actually tonight at the time of recording and,
5:31Speaker 3you want to get in shape who doesn't, That's the obvious. I think we're going to try to help you get in shape. We have macro tracking macros. We have a gym workouts. We have hit training workouts. We have carnivore.
5:43Speaker 3We get, we really, I think are going to appease pretty much anybody that's trying to get in shape.
5:48Speaker 3But I think more importantly than anything is we really want to cultivate just such a family
5:55Speaker 3vibe and just a unit. You know, if you want to be, if you want to be a part of something bigger than you, which we all, I think it's in our DNA and we crave it, that's what we want to put out there. You know, we want to
6:06Speaker 3be around cool people. We let it be known. We're Christians here, you know, and I speak, you know, heavily and it doesn't mean that you have to be, but
6:17Speaker 3and we have Will and I specifically have learned so much through just the steps of Alcoholics Anonymous on just being
6:27Speaker 3Those are things that we can pass on because you get passed on with dudes that have lived it and they, the torch was passed on from us. So we want to share a lot of different stuff. It's not just a, it's not just a typical coaching program, man. We really want you guys to be part of the Warrior Maker family. We do have some big things coming. So if you're interested in that, you know, we're going to be dropping it tonight and it's going to go live.
6:49Speaker 3So you'll be seeing this on Thursday, but you'll be able to find it. I would love for you to join because
6:56Speaker 3it's bigger than what you think. You're going to be jumping into the Warrior Maker family. We're going to have a weekly Zoom call where it's going to be led by me for the most part, but sometimes we'll, mice,
7:14Speaker 3I'm going to have, Doctor. Scott on there. I'm going to have, you know, some fitness guys. We're going to do some cool stuff that I've been cultivating in my head for quite some time and now it's really formed. So I'm ready to put it down and kick some butt. Right guys? Yeah. It's a team effort. Basically, like the good thing is people,
7:31Speaker 1you are joining, well, we call it the warrior legion, but, you're joint, you're getting support from everybody. Dave,
7:39Speaker 1coach who will be working with those who choose that package, but really behind it, you get all of us,
7:53Speaker 1JD and I, and like you said, other guests will pop in and provide support to everybody in the program. You'll
8:00Speaker 1get access to school, to trainerize, there's a whole bunch. So just, you're not alone. The biggest thing is you get the motivation and accountability.
8:08Speaker 3Motivation too. But we're also going to talk about things that, I think most people at least would like to hear, you know, some type about cultivating different business ideas or branding. I love that type of stuff. How do you brand your company? Oh man, I could talk for that on days. So it's so much more than coaching. It's so much more than you getting in shape. That's the part we know everybody
8:29Speaker 3wants to be in shape. Think that's going be the easier part. If you follow the protocol,
8:33Speaker 3it's a mathematical certainty that you will get in shape because it's math, right? It's macros and it's calories and all that stuff for the most part. But
8:41Speaker 1it's the part that you're going to join a freaking badass team. 1 Yep. Yep. There it is. Now I'm wearing a cowboy hat today, by the way. And in case anybody didn't notice
9:03Speaker 1fan. I don't know. I'm just, it's just not. I just don't like the crowds and I just, I'm not like that type of person. Right? Whatever. Also, don't drink.
9:15Speaker 1we got dressed up and I got a cowboy hat for the show and wore it. And so I thought I'd show it off today here. Looks good on you.
9:25Speaker 3Thursday for me when you were listening to this will be my 14 year, not wedding anniversary, but since I've been with my bride, which same thing to me, I mean,
9:37Speaker 3And, so that's cool. I'm gonna have, I'm going to bring her in on Thursday and we're going to sit down and do podcasts on my podcast and
9:48Speaker 3We're going stay at Disneyland hotel Friday night for my dudes and go to Disneyland with my buddy, Justin Wetzel's in town with his bride soon to be bride also. So cool stuff, man. Oh yeah. Then I'm going to Hawaii too in a month. We have a family vacation that we've done every, every year for the last 4 years, I think.
10:22Speaker 1And, but yeah, so now it's kind of a tradition we're going do it. I'm not going to stay. I'm going go for about 0.5 the trip and come back because,
10:36Speaker 1but it'll be fun. The 1st time that we went, my mother, my mother has like always taught me
10:41Speaker 1like, just do whatever you want. As long as you're not hurting people, like laws and rules don't matter as long as it's like makes sense in your brain, you know? So 1 time I was like, let me take care of river for, for like a night and you guys are the day You guys actually like enjoy yourselves. So we did that. We come back or I think I was walking around and we've caught my mom, my mom, or Ali's like, do not let him river, do not jump off the rocks into the lazy river. Right? And I walked by and I see my mom teaching him how to do a flip off of the rocks into the lazy. That's so funny, dude.
11:16Speaker 1That's amazing. And then we came back. She's like, mama, look, all the other kids are gonna have just fight safe as long as he does it right. Right. He's gonna do it. Anyway,
11:23Speaker 3he's a rock baby. Yeah. I love it. I love her, man. Well, cool man. Well, let's get cracking. So this is a Q and a
11:31Speaker 3episode, which I know everybody loves and real quickly before we read the 1st question, Will and I talked about, let's say it again.
11:37Speaker 3We want to know if you want any type of uplift on this or if you just kind of want us to leave the Q and A alone, we're always trying to improve and,
11:46Speaker 3know, do more and, and, just think make it better. But, I've asked some people that came in, they liked the podcast to the shop here and all 3 said, no, don't touch the Q and A, it's perfect. Don't touch it. So that's
12:01Speaker 3preference, let us know. We were thinking about making a few changes here, but if you like it how it is, let us know. We will read the answers.
12:09Speaker 1then we also, there is the, 1 peptide that's a triple agonist that we all know that starts with R and we are not going to say that name folks. So we've, we say the word, if we say the letter R, I hope you're following along and know what we're talking about. Okay?
12:30Speaker 1I took CJC slash ipamorelin once, got flushed, heart raced, felt like I might pass out for a minute.
12:36Speaker 1Took me forever to get to sleep. The next day, I was completely wiped out, came home from work early, and slept till 3PM. So I stopped using it after that. Good idea.
12:46Speaker 1Week I started my Wolverine blend because no 1 has problems with BPC and TV, right? Nope. 15 minutes later while laying in my bed, my resting heart rate hit 1 15, just didn't feel great.
12:56Speaker 1Had to get up and calm myself in the shower before I could go to bed. Any ideas what could make someone this sensitive or how to approach it safely? PS, I do just fine taking my R 2 times weekly.
13:13Speaker 3what jumped out at me here was, yeah, you are probably sensitive, but you don't tell us your age. You don't tell us your weight. So that does help when you say that type of stuff.
13:23Speaker 3You know, how much weight do you want to need to lose and things like that? It can help with the response here,
13:34Speaker 3If you're not, you need to be. That's probably a big part of it. I mean, you, you, every human needs to,
13:45Speaker 3you don't have to go to the gym or you could do bands at the house. You could literally just do bands. And I mean, there's so many
14:17Speaker 3many, many people that have had a histamine response. The thing that threw me for the loop was BPC and TB are pretty much the safest peptides you can take. And if you're having that, that
14:38Speaker 3So peptide wise, let's say Selank and Semax. Would start there. I would say try Selank and Semax just to start and see how you do with those.
14:53Speaker 3Are you hormonally optimized? Let me ask you this. When is the last time you got your blood work done? Right? So these are questions that if we knew the answers to, we could really help you a bit more because they do really fit within the picture
15:23Speaker 3these are things that can really help you. And I know they're not peptides, but they really work. I've used them before.
15:29Speaker 3So maybe start there. And if you, if you do go get your blood work done, I do want to write back in and you tell us your age and weight and all that. Really will help the answer in my opinion. What do you think, Will? Well, go ahead, Michael. I don't want to take any of his, let him talk and then I'll add my, well, it's an allergic reaction. Think that he's having,
16:56Speaker 1putting too little water in and then thinking they're doing some amount, but they're actually doing 4 times as much as they should be. Yeah. Some people are like, oh, it's so little, so maybe it's gotta be more,
17:18Speaker 1peptide manufacturers make a blend, they have to use a different ingredient, okay, that binds those 2 together.
17:38Speaker 1I think she, like, passed out, and they had the ER take her to the ER after the 2nd time in the lab, working with that. She couldn't go out to dinner with any of the coworkers after work. She couldn't enter the lab. She couldn't go out to the coworkers after work who even were in that lab with their lab coats and their lab coats touching their own skin because of that. Wow. That was on there. So there is an end lots of
18:08Speaker 1I mean, I wouldn't even try the I wouldn't even attempt to do CGC up and around if I would again, That would just just just lost cause, like You get too rocked. But I would also probably my best advice would be to cut out all blends.
18:21Speaker 1So your next thing to test is something that is just a single peptide. Like, try just BPC.
18:36Speaker 1then Michael touched on it, like sourcing, where are you getting it from? Like, definitely, let's check that out.
18:42Speaker 1If you get it from if you got it go ask wherever you got it from, I would send it your message to their customer service team and tell them what's up. A good company will say, cool. No problem. Why don't we just send you those individually?
18:56Speaker 1Alright? And they'll take the loss. So go ask your company that you bought it for that exact question. And if they tell you to kick rocks, then just DM us and we will tell you good people to buy from. All right.
19:12Speaker 1yeah, dude. That's, that's my thought. I think I'd stay away from those. I would drop the, but that's odd. And
19:24Speaker 4right, Ms. Michael, you're up. All right. Hi, JD and Will. Love the podcast. It's helped me understand peptide therapy much better. I am a 44 year old dad, PT, high rocks athlete, York,
20:19Speaker 3or so I would say go to straight up HGH myself because I love it. The more and more, we get deep into this world of peptides and get to know people
20:30Speaker 3that have been in it for a long time, the more I love more HGH more because they've been taking it for a long time too. So we've been right on the money. But, yeah, if if you don't wanna do HGH,
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21:15Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay, big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
21:23Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
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21:50Speaker 3I would just kind of cut to the chase. I think anyone over 40 needs to pretty much be on TRT and,
21:58Speaker 3Now that's, there's exceptions to the rule, not saying every single person, but most people with the food and just all the stuff that's going on in the world,
23:02Speaker 1having those 2. It's just a synergistic effect, right? So it'll work better. Dude, Tesla's awesome. So the fact that you're a HYROX athlete, we had somebody ask us this last
23:14Speaker 1doing sled pulls, sled pushes, like wall balls, a whole bunch of stuff that it sounds pretty damn intense. So you need like maximum
23:36Speaker 1that at 44, I think you're a good prime candidate for for low dose HGH. I think that that's, that is, it's just more effective than
23:46Speaker 1will be. Okay. It's the real, it's the real stuff you just give it to. Okay. At 44 performance
23:57Speaker 1you know, at 44 and you are active, Glutathione is a great general health. And while you're at the NAD, you might as well start taking Glutathione also. You got it. As just general internal internal organs. Everybody should retaking them. But I think, yeah, dude, I think you cannot go the the test it can't be bad. It will do nothing but hell. Yeah.
24:20Speaker 1Make sure your sleep and, and X, I mean, exercise is probably good. Make sure you're fueling your body enough because
24:25Speaker 1you are burning calories and you're beating your body up. Like a Wolverine, you already take it. Great
24:34Speaker 4would probably just bump up the Wolverine, the 1 mg daily. It's pretty low at 500 micrograms daily. Especially if you're working out, you need that extra muscle recovery. I wouldn't even take less.
24:50Speaker 1So that's my taste. For sure. I agree. 500 micrograms of each of BPC and of TB is about the lowest possible, like,
24:58Speaker 3dose you're getting anything out of. And so you're working hard. I would I would also increase it. Type stuff. You're ripped and tear, especially at 44. We get it, man. Uh-huh. So you need more good stuff. Alright. Do that. Alright. Not all Janoschick COAs are publicly posted.
25:20Speaker 3USA to Prague, which is a great question because we are going to do a breakdown of the COA.
25:25Speaker 1We will be doing that soon. So just so you know, but this is a real question. This is Sure. So this is easy. Dude, like, so not all Janoschicks are publicly posted. I think you mean that on Janoschick's
25:39Speaker 1people's COS. So here's what you may or may not know if you dig into it a bit. But Janosick charges you about, I think it was like a $150
25:48Speaker 1month, and it might be more. It might be more like $300 a month. So if you send a test in, cool, you can opt to also pay them $300
26:01Speaker 1only ones that are publicly posted on Janoschik are the people who pay them to do that.
26:10Speaker 1Now here's how do you spot a, how do you spot a counterfeit? Well, this one's very easy. At the bottom of every Janoschik test and the bottom of every test, hopefully,
26:19Speaker 1they have a unique code. Okay? So when you're looking at someone Janosik test online, let's say, if there's no code on it because they photoshopped it and they just like,
26:31Speaker 1above where the code should be, red flag. But even though just because you see a code, I wouldn't don't necessarily just trust it, but basically that is for you to go take that 5 digit code
26:42Speaker 1and go to Januszepatide's website. It's right there where you can verify a test. So you enter that code, push enter,
26:55Speaker 1If it does not show up or those results are not found, then you have a counterfeit test that you're looking at. I don't know. K. So
27:01Speaker 1that will always just because it's not posted publicly, they're available publicly on Genosix site if you just
27:08Speaker 1you just type that in. The best package delivery service, when you place an order with Janoschik,
27:34Speaker 1yeah, there's that most every single every CLA, every every lab should have a have that verification code for you to go back to the website and verify it. That's the whole point of having 0.333 party test done. You need to be able to freaking verify that. Right? Or else these are all just basically worthless.
28:05Speaker 1Okay. All right. Next. I am a 57 year old male currently on TRT. My doctor said I was in range, although I was 9
28:26Speaker 1free tests, but estrogen is very high with no side effect. Should I take an AI? Also, I've lost 64 pounds and I'm currently damn weighed 2 59.
29:08Speaker 310 67 nanograms per deciliter. So for us Americans, we go up nanograms per deciliter and that's 10 67. So that's great. That is really good. Total testosterone 0.9
29:26Speaker 3your estrogen is high. You didn't tell us what that is. And that is obviously subjective,
29:34Speaker 3I think even Will and I will both agree. We are our AI opinions have changed over the years and it's
30:06Speaker 3of protein. You definitely need to increase that. I mean, I know for some people that's difficult, but the easiest
30:18Speaker 3lift weights, you gotta, you know, you gotta lift weights, you gotta eat enough protein. All meals should be based around protein. And I know that's difficult sometimes,
30:27Speaker 3but it's really easy math to just get 1 g of protein per body weight. And you're not doing enough of that
30:38Speaker 3mgs is a lot. I'd be really curious to know how long you've been, well, look, he's lost
30:47Speaker 3Been on it for a little while. Would imagine, especially if you're not feeling it anymore, you're probably on it for a while. You
31:04Speaker 3It's hard to say. We don't know a whole lot about you. You know, once, if we ever got on the phone with you, we could obviously ask you questions that would help us answer this.
31:13Speaker 3Off the cuff for me, I would probably break it in 0.5 and start that way by 6 Migs to Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
31:42Speaker 3So they think it's not working because they're actually getting hungry again. You want that? What happens is very
31:54Speaker 3remember when I 1st started taking it, I was amazed by it. I mean, I used to go home and just destroy
31:59Speaker 3a huge rib eye and like 6 eggs. When I started it, I was like eating 0.5 the rib eye and like, you know, it was crazy.
32:06Speaker 3So yeah, you want to switch to that and, Alpha-5s, like I said, 6 bigs probably is where I would start.
32:26Speaker 3like I'm telling you, man, like what I've been reading, because I've, I've spoke about it a lot lately. I've, I lost my sweet spot and I've been studying the shit out of it because I had it for a long time.
32:36Speaker 3And 1 of the things is overtraining is a real thing. It really is. You need to make sure you get your rest. We're not 27 anymore. You're 57, I'm 49. I was, I talk about all the time. Hit 49 and I like ran into a wall and
32:55Speaker 3it's just, I've been trying to find it. That's 1 of the things that I've been coming up with is 1, I'm walking.
33:01Speaker 3I'm not doing any car, I'm walking and I feel great. So maybe add that in and maybe take out a day, maybe,
33:07Speaker 3maybe 1 more rest day and all you need is an hour. You don't need an hour and 0.5. That's a long time for a 57 year old. So those are some of the basics, man. I think they will help you a lot.
33:26Speaker 4maybe twice a week, 3 times a week sub Q because that can probably help stabilize his testosterone. Maybe even like keep the estrogen a little bit lower with
33:55Speaker 4with what I've noticed with a lot of people when they're on a GLP for a long time, their metabolic
34:00Speaker 4system tends to slow down or it's not optimized. So the 5 Amino, by adding that in there and even bumping up your calories a little bit more will kind of restart that. So keep you out of that plateau.
34:20Speaker 1is tied to the amount of food that we take in. Okay? Because, like, this is how we made it through winters when we were, like,
34:28Speaker 1Okay? So our bodies, based on how much food we get we take in, our metabolisms will then kind speed up to that basic number. They also speed up based on that much amount of muscle we have or our basal metabolic rate, which is really based on how much muscle you have.
34:44Speaker 1So therefore, when a person for a prolonged amount of time is basically on a crash diet,
34:57Speaker 1down because you ain't eating much. Now you're eating 2,200 calories. Okay. That's okay. It's not like 500 at least. But,
35:05Speaker 1yeah, I would think of timing of your food, right, is not all about calories. Right? It is, I think, it is all about macronutrients.
35:12Speaker 1Right? There's a huge difference. Right? I could eat the same amount of calories in steak and versus Twinkies,
35:18Speaker 1and there's gonna be a big difference. There's also gonna be a big difference if I could eat the same amount of
35:24Speaker 1in 1 situation and then in another, but basically on how I time those meals and those nutrients
35:44Speaker 1Okay? That's pretty high. My guess is, unless maybe you have good natural testosterone and you're taking a low TRT dose or you're taking a high TRT dose. But regardless, that's why your estrogen is elevated because your testosterone, that's pretty high. I mean, most of these tests max out at like 1,400
36:05Speaker 1at 1000, I mean, I do we do say, hey, an average male, the range should be, like, 1,200
36:32Speaker 1so if you're getting dotted out at all, right, maybe not getting big old zits, but if you're starting to see like little bits of acne everywhere, little bit more oily, that's an estrogen symptom.
36:42Speaker 1anywhere, right? Just looking a little bit more bloated, your sub Q layer holding water. Any nipple sensitivity,
36:52Speaker 1symptoms. If you're not having any of those, but the blood test says your estrogen is high, I wouldn't take an estrogen blocker. Right?
37:12Speaker 1yeah. So there's that. I think everything else that you said, yeah, dude, 90 minutes is too long. You don't need it. Go hard, go hard for shoot 40 minutes. Yeah.
37:21Speaker 3It changes you the way that you eat and the way that you train as we get older, it really radically changes. We should not be lifting heavy, heavy shit. Like, like we did when we were 27, you're getting hurt, man. Me too. I'm getting old. Thursday.
37:35Speaker 1Yes. But be careful of reps. So I have found it and they've done the most 3 recent scientific studies have said, okay, they've compared, Hey, what's worse for a person. Okay.
37:50Speaker 1low weight and high reps for a lifetime. And the newest research tells us that the high reps, what matters is
38:05Speaker 1unless you, I mean, if unless I put 1000 pounds in my hand and I tear my elbow off, like that's bad folks. Right? But as long as you do heavy weight that you can control,
38:18Speaker 1Than just how many times that. So it's all about how many times that joint has to move in a lifetime.
38:23Speaker 1And I noticed that the higher reps end up wearing me down and hurting me more over time than, yeah, than a heavy load. But the heavy load just needs to be controllable. Heavy load. Be
38:34Speaker 3conscious of how you lift and really focus as Arnold used to say on what muscle you're training. Like we all get in there and do the same shit every day. And like, you forget that like you gotta watch,
38:43Speaker 3you know what I mean? It's very important. Like at our age, I say our age, you know, you're older than you, but again, like I'm not acute injuries. Don't account for this. I'm not, don't go into the equation.
38:59Speaker 3I really want to sit on this 1 more time because I think it's important that especially if you, when you're 57,
39:12Speaker 3extremely important for a 57 year old. Like, again, I would really, I don't care what type of diet you're on. There's many that work. I'm not 1 size, 1 shoe size fits all type of guy. Right? Whatever works for you. But I'm going to tell you eat your carbs before and after the gym and at nighttime, don't eat carbs, man. You don't want carbs. You are not 27 man. Those carbs are going to source fat. You definitely want to really pay attention to when you eat carbs. Carbs are not bad
39:39Speaker 1as long as you eat them at the right time. Yep. And fruit is a carb folks. Fruit is just a sugar.
39:49Speaker 1You know, we got people that live 5 times a week who don't lift their legs. Like your legs, legs, legs, legs, legs, folks. That's your biggest muscle in your body. That's the biggest calorie burner that you have.
40:52Speaker 4For a guy whose stress levels are stalling and perfectly dialed diet and had and heavy metabolic stack,
41:01Speaker 4what is the best non DSIP peptide protocol to drop the cortisol and flush the water? Good question. All right.
41:09Speaker 3I'll take it. Yeah, good. So again, I've been through this. I lived through it. It's cortisol
41:22Speaker 3and I could not get rid of it. Researching and researching, I've, you know, started reading about cortisol and it's a, it's a son of a bitch. It literally can kill you. So you gotta fix your sleep. I know that's the obvious, but let me say it out loud. Now I've said
41:36Speaker 3this numerous times. I have found the answer, at least for me, on how to sleep. I sleep a good 6 to 8 hours every night now, and I was sleeping I was sleeping, like, maybe Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox, that's high performance loving.
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42:00Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
42:08Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
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42:31Speaker 3So I know I know it well, brother. I'm with you. Here's and this was some listener sent this to me. I think it was on my Instagram.
42:39Speaker 3And, oh my gosh, almost from the 1st night I slept like a baby. It was awesome. Glycine,
42:52Speaker 3Those together should really help you sleep, man. They worked for me. I mean, they radically worked for me. I still take them every night.
43:02Speaker 3peptide advice, I didn't do the best with DSIP either. There's people I know that love it. So it's kind of each his own, but a Selank and Semax might be good for you because it's going to calm you down a little bit, calm down the brain. Once you're not sleeping, it's like a mind F dude. You're not sleeping because you're like, no, you need sleep really bad. So then you're thinking about you not sleeping. And then it's just like, dude,
43:39Speaker 3If you're restricting calories too much where people don't realize that if you're not eating enough, you will increase your cortisol. It'll do, it'll be
43:56Speaker 3cortisol to the spike in the morning. 1 of the things that I did was, I don't know what your sleep schedule is like is I don't drink coffee for the 1st hour. I go downstairs and I used to hit coffee and then wait 10 minutes and have a cup of coffee and then do my prayers and whatnot. I don't do that. I don't have coffee for an hour.
44:12Speaker 3What I do is hydrate like crazy. Go downstairs and I actually have a big box of Celtic salt and I
44:19Speaker 3lick it and put it on my tongue. Absorbs into your tongue. 3 big doses of salt and a big glass of water, man. You're going to be hydrated, dude. We are dehydrated when we sleep.
44:41Speaker 3it's amazing. Walking is amazing. I've loved it. Like I never, I haven't walked in a long time. Like I, after I eat, I walk and it's been awesome. I just, I don't know. I've enjoyed it. I either like either listen to a podcast,
44:54Speaker 3pray, get in the center. Like it works for me. I just have about 25 to 30 minutes where I just
45:07Speaker 3can't sleep, Wim Hof works really well. Breathing techniques, I don't know if you've ever heard of Wim Hof, but
45:14Speaker 3so many people know about it because it works really well. So you can start to do breathing 3 techniques and just the focusing on the breathing techniques. You'll, you'll definitely calm your head and I bet you'll sleep better. So that's what I got.
45:35Speaker 4Yep. Depending if he's working on the evening or in the morning can definitely affect his sleep.
45:51Speaker 4So night? Yeah. I take it before bed, fasted, and I sleep like a baby. Yeah. And that's the only thing that's kind of like helped me sleep. So
46:03Speaker 4good thing because he's trying to lose weight. So that's another thing, but you know, you gotta be careful too with the Tesla on the dosing. Some people don't sleep. Some people that Mason does the opposite. Yeah.
46:14Speaker 3Because I had dealt with this, you know, so I can give you my firsthand experience. I will not take any peptides at night anymore. I used to have a morning dose and then at night and like, because I have my sleeping and I feel like 1000000 bucks these days, I won't take anything at night of like anything with peptide because I don't know if that was it. I don't know what the true culprit was, but I'm not, I just, it's worked for me what I'm doing, but the glycine and the Ashwagandha and the magnesium alone,
46:41Speaker 3I won't mess it up at night. I got it unlocked. So try that dude, seriously. Yeah. Can I are you ready for me? I won't ask.
46:50Speaker 1of all, I guess I would like to kind of argue the premise that your cortisol is purely because of your sleep.
46:59Speaker 1And I don't know you and I would ask you a whole bunch of questions, right, to get to know you better and to, like,
47:22Speaker 1a whole lot of other things that can create cortisol. There's a whole lot of other things that can create water retention also.
47:28Speaker 1And that means but but the only thing here's the evidence that we got and the question is about sleep. So,
47:36Speaker 1is really is 1 of those things that, you know, you may you may not notice it, but it's worth a shot.
47:46Speaker 1There are a whole bunch of sleep techniques that you can do to make sure that you get into the rhythm. Right? It's all about, like, a good sleep rhythm and being consistent with that. Right? Like, bright light in the morning, that's natural sunlight that gets your butt drop, right? It's going to sleep at the same time. Do not work out late at night, right? That will stimulate your system. You'll have a tough time going to sleep. I think the GHGH
48:14Speaker 1I haven't really heard of HGH backfiring on people like Tesamorelin. So- Me neither. I know we'd take in the morning, but like I'm also not opposed to like, shoot,
48:43Speaker 1And caffeine, you know, just watch your caffeine during the, you know, when you're taking, when you drink caffeine, cut that off, dude. Like you might just need to cut it off after noon.
48:56Speaker 1Sleep apnea is a huge 1 that most, and a lot of times if you have sleep apnea, you don't know about it,
49:13Speaker 1there's my answer. It's not, you know, DSIP is not, some people are like, oh, it's amazing. Right? And some people that didn't do anything to you.
49:35Speaker 1Then we can go a lot deeper with you, But I would find somebody else to really analyze your entire life and
49:59Speaker 1I was already was I did that for 2 months because I know my brain needs 2 months of like isolated,
50:04Speaker 1like no touching of substances to just grow back. But the 2nd month so I was already past my QD target. It was so hot here, and I was working out all the time. I remember there was a stretch of, like, 4 or 5 days. I didn't barely slept at all because it was so hot. I'd, like, take, like, cold bathtubs. I'm coming from Seattle. It's really hot here.
50:21Speaker 1And I was working out like crazy and like nothing was happening. And usually my body just flies, gets better.
50:29Speaker 1Grows muscle, burns fat really, really fast. And I was really amazed like, damn, nothing is working because I'm not sleeping.
50:56Speaker 3Hello, JD and Will. 1st and foremost, thank you for being such an inspiration and wealth of knowledge.
51:25Speaker 3every morning, lift a little weights, go outside, go out, step on the grass and soak in the sun. That girl.
52:03Speaker 1I've got I'm sorry. No, here's my go to answer normally for people who want to preserve muscle,
52:34Speaker 1I don't know. Here's the thing. Lift weights. You need to stimulate your muscles. So I know you say you do, and then, but
52:43Speaker 1every muscle on your body gets worked out with bands wherever at home to soreness. Okay? It takes about 2 weeks for a muscle to atrophy. So
52:52Speaker 1if you don't do anything, let's call it from a bicep for a couple weeks, it just starts declining.
52:58Speaker 1Alright? It starts burning off. Now, you can burn it off a whole lot faster too if you wanna go on marathon runs only.
53:44Speaker 1would say 10. Yeah. I would 10. I'd maybe start a little bit lower, but who knows if you're tolerant to that great, that will help keep muscle on.
53:53Speaker 1like eating protein and just making sure you're stimulating those muscles with resistance training consistently
54:00Speaker 1Yeah. So work out every single muscle on your body 1 to 2 times a week, and it needs to be worked out so hard that it is sore
54:11Speaker 1after that workout. Okay? If you work out a muscle, let's say if you do a weight training workout
54:22Speaker 1Okay. Remember that you did nothing to it. Now you, you probably made it so it ain't you, you stimulated it, but you sure didn't tell it to grow because it didn't tear down. Therefore it doesn't think it needs to grow back any bigger or stronger or better.
54:46Speaker 4SS-thirty 1. Yeah, true. I do SS-thirty 1. If you do work out like Will told you, you should a little bit more. I'd pipe bump up the CLO
55:07Speaker 1It might, it helps for, it can help for muscle gain. Yeah. That's why JD and I are right now taking 15 to 30 mg a day. And
55:29Speaker 3statement or this question, to speak is a 1st and foremost, thank you for being such inspirations and wealth of knowledge.
55:36Speaker 3I want to sit on that for a 2nd. These guys just kind of answered you, but, we are so grateful for the people that write in. I mean, it warms my heart. I mean, you know our story because you guys write in all the time. I mean, Will and I are both in recovery. I mean, we were people that are addicted to heroin and, now we have a fairly successful company and a successful podcast. And, if you're listening to this and you're struggling,
55:59Speaker 3My sponsor, when I got sober, looked at me and said, JD, if you do these things, your life will become so freaking amazing. It'll blow your mind. And I was like, I just want a car.
56:11Speaker 3But I wanted to sit on that and really just say thank you for all you people that ride
56:16Speaker 3in and are grateful for what we do. It warms our heart. It really does. And, you guys keep us going.
56:22Speaker 3So they answered a lot of that. I thought that's, that was great. SS-31. What a great answer. You went out a different angle. Glad you're here, Mike. Well, thanks. But,
56:34Speaker 3everybody, everybody listening to this should be taking creatine. You too, ladies. Creatine is great. So,
56:45Speaker 3generally in a powdered form or Will and I both like HCL. I take them both. I take HCL in the morning. And then after I lift, I take monohydrate.
57:05Speaker 3and I would just want to sit on this point because it's important. You gotta do some type of resistance training. I know they said that, but like you could get bands.
57:12Speaker 3You don't have to go to the gym. You can get bands and you could put the bands everywhere
57:17Speaker 3and you can do your arms or triceps. You can do your back. You can do squats. I mean, you can do an amazing workout daily
57:30Speaker 3you know, get that sleep into my dear, because that stuff is important with some of the stuff that you went through.
57:38Speaker 3They, they answered the peptide question. I wanted to say that and sit on the thank you part. There you go. Yeah. Who's that? Cool.
57:46Speaker 1I don't know, but I'll do me. Okay. Here it is. Short 1. What is your opinion outlook on collagen peptides
57:55Speaker 1I'm not really quite sure what you mean by this, collagen peptides. Do you mean we'll cover basis.
58:05Speaker 1protein powders. Yeah. My thought on those is, and I've there, then the studies have shown us like
58:31Speaker 1threw that away and took none of them at the end of the year, you'd look this, would, nothing would change. Okay.
59:16Speaker 1And it's and it's showing a lot of promise there, but obviously filling in wrinkles, etcetera. Right? BPC
59:35Speaker 1and then carry those and have all the messengers that carry all of that to rebuild you better. So those things are awesome.
59:43Speaker 1The big corporate supplements that have collagen in them, I think that they are worthless.
59:50Speaker 3was popular or even carnivore was popular and they had all these carnivore bars and all this stuff. Yeah. It's Yeah. They're just capitalizing on the- They're jumping on the bandwagon and if you see it, you're gonna believe that that's gonna I mean, ketosis still, like, not even close. Like, it's just that's- It's a marketing tool. It's a ruse. Yeah, it's just marketing. But those peptides, as Will said, are amazing. And then you also have to be careful when we were talking about this, I think off camera is,
1:00:15Speaker 3like even protein powder, most of it's doodoo. It's just the case. Like you'd want to go with a higher grade or look at the ingredients
1:00:24Speaker 3you know, you, you want to spend the extra dollars on some supplements. Cause like you said, the collagen production, my wife takes it every morning, even though,
1:00:34Speaker 3But lesser so I know you're listening to this baby. I love you. Lot of times placebo and that's the most effective part of it. It's true.
1:00:44Speaker 1you will do everything else in your life that helps benefit that too. Like that 1 little thing like, Oh, well, if I'm doing this, right, then I better do, I better work out harder and I better eat better food. Like that,
1:00:56Speaker 1is what works. But hell, if that puts you in the mode and mindset to do it, great. Well also, because we have, you know, the, the, the face there, which has GHKCU
1:01:08Speaker 3to post about this all the time. I mean, I get these laser facials that, you know, as I gotten older and every 3 months, I think I do them. My wife and I go together.
1:01:20Speaker 3healing. I'm not kidding in cuts it in 0.5. We've done it without it. And we've done it with it every time now. And it's like, woah,
1:01:28Speaker 3it's that good. So do we love them? Yeah. They're that good. That's why everybody's mind them.
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1:03:01Speaker 2How do you wanna split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay. Big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit Mastercard.
1:03:08Speaker 1So Well, I Venmo'd you 3 times last week, so it's kinda on me actually. Yeah. You send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated?
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1:03:54Speaker 3Yeah. I mean, that's what it sounds like. So all those numbers that you put in there
1:03:58Speaker 3are kind of pointing towards that. And so the 1st thing I know that jumped out at all 3 of us is when you take a growth hormone or secret a dog,
1:04:17Speaker 3really probably what's going on for the most part. And you want to pull out the growth hormone secreted dog. I think that might be just it now
1:04:28Speaker 3I don't know, but, you know, insulin sensitivities when the body responds well to insulin. So people don't, and then the insulin resistance is when the body responds poorly to insulin, just so people know, because I know that gets thrown out there a lot.
1:04:48Speaker 3think that if you just pull that out, I honestly think that will do well. It's just 1 of those things and you could pull it out for a bit. It probably will rectify itself. You can always go back on,
1:05:00Speaker 10 Yeah. So, okay. I do not. So she is for everybody else. Right? She gave us different numbers of her glucose and her insulin at,
1:05:12Speaker 1on having a post glucose drink. Right? And then here's how it went, how her glucose rose or lowered and insulin matches. So she said, hey, this pattern
1:06:35Speaker 1Your body recognizes glucose. We eat glucose. We eat we eat sugar. It turns into glucose,
1:06:49Speaker 1want that glucose to really be killed by the least amount of insulin. People with insulin sensitivity who are insensitive,
1:06:55Speaker 1their body needs to keep pushing, oh, more and more and more and more insulin, and that's very unhealthy and turns into that's like, you know, where we go to pre diabetic diabetic, and that's not good. Right. So, you know,
1:07:19Speaker 1here's the worry. I would see the I don't know. I still like seeing an endocrinologist. It's not maybe a great idea to just use the like metformin is another thing to, like, lower blood sugar,
1:07:33Speaker 1the GLPs can't really control blood, you know, blood glucose levels. Right? That's not their job.
1:07:39Speaker 1Well, they just don't do a good job. They can they can go up and down and spike. What you need to make sure is like the the basic rules, like, never eat don't ever eat carbs alone.
1:07:55Speaker 1yeah, eat low glycemic carbohydrates. If you go to the glycemic index online, it's gonna tell you. It'll list everything, right, tell you what
1:08:06Speaker 1and therefore provide you with quick fast energy, but then burn off and have a higher propensity to turn to fat versus carbs that last a long time, provides you with really good long sustained energy. If you don't use that energy, that stores in your muscles instead of converting to fat. So you just don't want big spikes.
1:08:24Speaker 3Again, it goes back to like when you get older, you need to know what to eat, when to eat it. Like when we were younger, it was great, right? To eat whatever we wanted. Oh, I miss those days. But if you want to stay in shape when you're older, you just got to know what to eat, what carbs to eat, which ones to leave out. And I know that sucks, but it's like, once you get it down and
1:08:42Speaker 3if you need help, we'll help you. We got a GoatG program down. So we'll help you with all that. It's really not that difficult once you kind of get it down. It's not, but it is for somebody who's new and like, it's like, there's a lot of information, but, but absolutely you try and try and post it, put my fitness channel on the mark and like, it got me like 25,000 followers from 1 post was about like just insulin and whatnot at night. Don't eat carbs at night and like the world- It'll kill It'll kill your world- Mine. I dipped out after a day and it ran for months. Yeah. They're fighting for each But it true. Was true. Like it was, it was, it was a minute clip too. It's like, man, 0 It was true. You just left out the like scientific steps in between, but who cares? That's
1:10:03Speaker 3Goal is to maintain fat loss and maximize muscle gain. I look like Mr. William T Haws.
1:10:21Speaker 3when moving fat from fat loss to muscle gain? Should I stay on the lowest effective dose taper off or adjust based on appetite and body composition? Question 2, how do I balance GLP appetite suppression
1:10:52Speaker 4Go ahead, Michael. I recently did this because I didn't, I went on bulk, was on Reda,
1:11:00Speaker 4not too high. So I brought it down to a low dose Reda to keep the food noise out. Or
1:11:33Speaker 1Plenty, so. Yeah. I think this is, I mean, the, I think the answer here is a common sense answer. How
1:11:40Speaker 1do we switch from like, what was dosing look like on Retta? Tell me if I have this question right. What would my dosing look like on Retta after I've reached my goal weight and lost all the weight, and now I want to start gaining muscle, but I don't wanna stop taking the hour?
1:11:56Speaker 1would the dosing look like? Well, here's the deal. Yes. You need to have a if you wanna gain some more muscle, right, you need to be eating some food. Okay? So you definitely cannot be taking so much where that it's restricting your appetite. Right. Itself,
1:12:20Speaker 1And which that in turn, right, leads directly into muscle growth. And so there is an argument that you're taking a good amount of R,
1:12:40Speaker 1Lower the dose. Absolutely. So the bad food noise is gone. You know, you've lost some weight and good for you. Let's stick with those habits, right? Like this is 1 of the benefits of all of this is a huge benefit is like guys keep the momentum, right? You've learned what it's like to eat healthier, right? And to eat less and your stomach has shrunk. I guarantee it. I know this because this happens when I was eating for football, we had to just cram food so we can rate you can increase the stomach. Your stomach shrunk down right now. Don't push it.
1:13:06Speaker 1Lower the red. You might get a little bit more hungry, but it will take the edge off of that food noise. So, but don't
1:13:13Speaker 1don't just jam food in there. Right? Get in that habit of eating till you're satiated
1:13:21Speaker 1Boost up your protein. Just focus on protein, protein, protein, protein, protein. If you're a man and you really want to gain some muscle, 1.5 g of muscle protein per
1:13:52Speaker 1Other than that, you don't really know, sorry, about it blunting your growth hormone pathways. Sorry, you just don't really know. But,
1:14:15Speaker 1yeah, the drum sets. No, I don't think he mentioned that, but he's 31. So like, I'm not telling you to do that.
1:14:37Speaker 1You know, the true bulk and cut like bodybuilders is so bad for you. Yeah. It really just really, really, really, really like dump trucks when they're bulking dudes. Yeah. It's so not good as all these other questions that have happened, right? That like people talking about, you know, all what it does to your body when you lose a whole bunch of fat rapidly,
1:15:23Speaker 3Yeah, man. And here's the thing. So again, you want to remember the goal is not to take anything in perpetuity except for HGH and TRT.
1:15:33Speaker 3Even HGH. Was, I'm not even actually taking it right now. Believe it or not. The 1st time in years.
1:15:39Speaker 3Cause I was trying to get back to the basics. Was pulling the girl, Thormin out myself for a reason.
1:15:45Speaker 3But you gotta make sure you eat that protein brother. Like I know that he said, you're not eating enough protein. Like you said your weight. So it's a very simple math, eat the protein.
1:15:56Speaker 3don't, you gotta change that mindset because you don't want to stay in Retta in perpetuity. You want to come off of it anyway. You want to get your eating habits
1:16:03Speaker 3down because you're 31 dude. We're to be in Reddit forever. So you want to get to the point where you're at and you want to really like start to enforce discipline to the degree where your eating habits have radically changed.
1:16:36Speaker 1By the way, I'm glad you stopped the phentermine. I mean, for any of us who are in this program, Phen Phen is not, that's what AKA Phen Phen, right? It's just, it's, it's, amphetamines,
1:16:50Speaker 1How do you feel better? How do you feel without that? Probably a lot better. Oh, me not being an upper person. I like, I take that stuff.
1:17:27Speaker 1I have done a round of Tesa and AOD, but I don't know what to try next. I'm looking to lose my last 15 pounds,
1:17:34Speaker 1but still keep on muscles since I weight train 3 to 5 times a week. Good job. Good for you, man. That that that is what we yeah. That's somebody just
1:17:46Speaker 1and never going back. Yep. Because life's better. Now I know that she said that just for the r, but, like,
1:17:52Speaker 1I will also interpret I will never change, meaning I'm never gonna put the 80 pounds back on. Good for you. Good for you. So what else? What do got? 3 3 2 would be great for you. Yep. 5
1:18:03Speaker 3which is my top 5. I freaking love it. I think 5 Amino was amazing, especially the people that are on JP-1and
1:18:13Speaker 3alone would be 2 that you can replace the Tesa AOD. You know, you generally had 27. I mean, you generally want to have a secret dog in there as well.
1:18:26Speaker 3But you can run Tesamorelin for quite some time. I don't know how Rick, you, how you, well you ran it, but it's really is really good for that visceral fat, that little belly fat really is nothing better than that. But those are 2 that are fat burners that are awesome.
1:18:46Speaker 4Alright. Last 15 pounds is always the hardest. Mhmm. Here you go. It is. Twice as hard for it. So, like, JD said,
1:18:53Speaker 4gonna be at the 5 amino, and then I would add the Moxie into 2. So it'll give you that extra energy. I'll probably run a little bit of fat too there.
1:19:21Speaker 1you've, your, you've lost all this weight, right? And you've guaranteed you lost some muscle. And so your metabolism is probably at the slowest it's ever been. So, and then laziness that last little bit, here's the hardest part for people. It's like, you gotta start eating more food. So you need my,
1:19:36Speaker 1I wouldn't say you need to, like, you do whatever you want, but like, I would say it's
1:19:41Speaker 1adding muscle. So yep, we gotta focus on adding muscle. That is how that last little bit of weight actually comes off. See, I know. Got question. I'll miss you.
1:19:52Speaker 1I've seen it a 100 times, and so that means you're going to need to start eating a little bit more probably. But again, you can eat smart. It doesn't mean necessarily need mean I didn't just, it's not carb launch to just go eat. Right? Let's add in a little bit more protein. Let's do small frequent meals of protein.
1:20:17Speaker 1and add some muscle that brings your base metabolism up. Then that will allow you to burn the fat and then do the other things that they said also to help burn the fat. L carnitine's 1 that wasn't mentioned,
1:20:32Speaker 1yeah, kick ass. You're going to so take all these suggestions as a guess and check. You're just gonna have to try,
1:20:39Speaker 1try different things. You go, wow, that really worked. Okay. I'll do that cycle. Then I'll do something else. And then I'll come back to that 1. That really worked.
1:20:46Speaker 1You'll figure it out. You'll get to know. I mean, you've obviously probably learned a whole lot in this journey so far to 80 pounds.
1:21:09Speaker 3And hopefully 3 by the time you listen to this, some of you will be signed up for a coaching program. So you get a little bit, a little more pieces of us
1:21:35Speaker 1I did do a little switcheroo in the cowboy hat by halfway through, so you're not going crazy.
1:21:41Speaker 3Alright. Yes. I got nothing else. Anything else you got, Michael? Nope. Welcome to school. Pep time of the week for the 1st time. Hey. Appreciate it. There'll be many more, hopefully. Stuff.
1:21:55Speaker 3It is tough. Especially next to this guy. I used to surprise him all the time. I'd be like, Eddie, come here. Let's get Mike. Yeah. You know, now I get to actually be in the room instead of listening to someone outside. So how cool is that? So,
1:22:08Speaker 3so, you so, know, you joined the coaching. We're gonna push you. We're gonna push you. We're gonna push you. That's how you're gonna grow. So we're gonna call on you and we're gonna make you uncomfortable because that's when we grow, man. We're not supposed to be comfortable.
1:22:20Speaker 3Get ready and we're looking forward to talking to you. We'll catch you in the next round.