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1:09Speaker 2Welcome back to the pepatide of the week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denver, across the way like always my buddy William T. What's going on, man? We're busy. Yeah. I feel a little rushed, but we're gonna kick some butt on this podcast today.
1:24Speaker 2That's what we do.
1:27Speaker 2Life We, is in full swing, man. We got like always, we are doing big shit. I only hang out with people that do big shit. I love it.
1:35Speaker 2Let's talk about some of that a little bit before we get into the nuts and bolts of what we're gonna this is the Q and A episode,
1:41Speaker 2but we
1:42Speaker 2we're dropping our coaching,
1:44Speaker 2Warrior Makers coaching. So we wanna talk about that briefly just because a lot of people have asked for it and that's kind of the beginning of this company. Will and I have both
1:54Speaker 2been fitness trainers and coaches, and that's kind of the start of what we've done, and it's done us well. And a lot of people have asked, so we are doing that. Now,
2:03Speaker 2anything we do, we try to do well here. So we did start it a while back, but we were just busy and now it's time to let it go. So we did hire a coach that's going to help us with that.
2:12Speaker 2And it's going to be on nutrition, obviously,
2:15Speaker 2diets,
2:16Speaker 2different workouts,
2:18Speaker 2obviously, accountability,
2:20Speaker 2that stuff's needed.
2:21Speaker 2For that. There's going to be some branding talk. There's going to be some business talk. You know, it's, we're getting you in shape. That's the objective.
2:29Speaker 2But you know how we talk in this podcast? We're sober. We do big shit. We expect a lot from ourselves. We expect a lot of people from who we hang out with. So we're going to push you. We'll push you to get in shape. We're going to push you to better your life.
2:43Speaker 2And that's what it's going to be.
2:45Speaker 2A little bit about that is how we're going to start it is, we're going to have a Zoom call on Monday. This podcast will drop tomorrow, so you will hear this.
2:54Speaker 2And it's going to be open to everybody.
2:56Speaker 2Will, we will be putting it out on all of our outlets,
2:58Speaker 2so you will be able to find the link easy. We'll make it easy for you.
3:02Speaker 2And it's really just to talk about it. You're going to meet the coach that we
3:05Speaker 2have brought on a new warrior maker employee.
3:08Speaker 2He's awesome. I trained with him a lot.
3:10Speaker 2I think he's just, you know, he's a, he's a man of God, which is important for us. He's a, he's a sober guy, which that's not always
3:17Speaker 2not a must, but it's just, we like sober people
3:21Speaker 2And we
3:22Speaker 2make, we want to do, we want to help people get healthy. That's the objective of this whole thing. That's why it started. So I'm
3:29Speaker 2looking forward to it. We're going to do a Zoom call a week and talk about a lot of different stuff on each zoom call. And so we got a lot of stuff coming. So if you are interested in that,
3:40Speaker 2obviously there will be some peptide talk and supplement talk and all that stuff because all of that stuff goes along with that stuff.
3:48Speaker 2And so that's, what's going to be happening. So if you're curious about that and want to get some more information, join the zoom call. I don't know how many people will join. I have no clue.
3:57Speaker 2I'll stay on until every question is answered. Fair enough.
4:02Speaker 3Yep. Anything to add on that? Who's the name of
4:06Speaker 3kind of our main trainer, right? We have worked with him and built, well, going for a lot of, he's been doing this for a long time. So he has programs
4:14Speaker 3and a proven track record of getting people in shape and having like well rounded programs. So the big part is
4:20Speaker 3that it's gonna be these, these we have designed different
4:24Speaker 3programs for
4:26Speaker 3different folks. Right?
4:28Speaker 3It's online. I mean, basically it's, we're not, you don't have to be live here,
4:33Speaker 3right here to participate.
4:34Speaker 3The whole point is online coaching and the biggest thing it's a well rounded approach. So yes, nutrition,
4:40Speaker 3workouts, actually like workout videos, workouts, custom to you,
4:44Speaker 3supplementation,
4:47Speaker 3you know, consultations to go over just make sure that
4:51Speaker 3everything is aligned to get you in the fast in the best shape as fast as possible.
4:57Speaker 3And the guy's good and
5:00Speaker 3and you will get in shape as long as you just simply
5:03Speaker 2do what he says and follow through. Get in shape. Like, we want to go further than that, man. We want to build better people. Like, you know, we're men, so we want to build better men. You know, if you see the content we put out in different categories,
5:14Speaker 2we want to bring back some old school, like
5:17Speaker 2morality and like, you know, like treat your wife well and like raise your son to be strong, like kid of integrity.
5:24Speaker 2Like, we're going to talk about that stuff because, and
5:27Speaker 2you guys, if you're on school,
5:29Speaker 2look at the camaraderie on that. Want to, we want to compound that. We want to continue to build a warrior maker brand and people that
5:37Speaker 2are aligned with what we just talked about. And like, I love it. I
5:42Speaker 2love getting on those types of Zoom calls
5:44Speaker 2because it's usually people that are positive and like we want to talk about wins and triumphs and what are you struggling with? How do we fix it? So it's gonna be dope. I'm excited.
5:53Speaker 2So yeah, we're going to do that on Monday. So we'll be dropping a bunch of different stuff. So just be prepared for that. Most of you probably know, if you don't, our YouTube got taken down and that sucks because a lot of time was spent to cultivate it. It was almost 100,000
6:09Speaker 2subscribers, which on YouTube is difficult and
6:12Speaker 2it just was abruptly taken down.
6:15Speaker 2And it doesn't look like we're going to get it back. We put it back up and it was taken down again. So we did start a rumble. I am not a big rumble guy myself,
6:24Speaker 2but I will learn to be.
6:26Speaker 2And that's
6:27Speaker 2where we're at. Apparently, rumble is a place where free speech lives.
6:32Speaker 2It is what it is. It is what it is. We do have a lot of outlets. We still have school. We have, you know, our Instagram stuff. We're going be adding some stuff too. As
6:40Speaker 2always,
6:41Speaker 2we've done a lot of research and stuff. We're trying to like zigzag around some of these laws and stuff that I don't even think anybody knows what the laws are. They're gray.
6:50Speaker 2We got, you know, we're on Spotify.
6:52Speaker 2If, you know, if you do listen to this on,
6:55Speaker 2you were on YouTube and you found it, it's on Spotify, which is the biggest 1 that we use anyway,
7:00Speaker 2Apple also, I mean, are the 2 main podcasts anyway.
7:04Speaker 3YouTube was just like overflow. And by the way, Spotify has videos. It's not just listening. Yeah. I didn't know that for a long time. I still think that 0.5 of people don't know that. Like if you're listening to this, by the way, you can actually make click a few more things and watch
7:18Speaker 3this,
7:19Speaker 2which is how this was meant. Watch these good looking things. This was meant to be as a watched show. Watch my beard become more gray and gray. I've looked at some older content, which not even that long ago, I'm like, my beard was a lot more brown.
7:32Speaker 2It's turning gray. I'm turning 49. I'm 49. So I guess it is what it is. 3rd
7:38Speaker 2thing we want to talk about, we'll never talk about this morning. So, I said, let's just ask the people to ask the people to listen.
7:45Speaker 2He was thinking that we might, Q and A episode might be getting a little stale. I don't think so because I read a lot more of the comments, but I'm not you. So
7:56Speaker 2let's ask you, do you like this platform on this? We do 2, a lot of times it's
8:02Speaker 2Q and A, we do once a week and then we do either a guest or we break down a couple of compounds. So
8:08Speaker 2do you want us to do something and try to revamp the Q and A? Do you like the Q and A, how we just sit down and kind of go over your questions?
8:15Speaker 3Let us know in the comments if what you want. If we have a guest, which I think we're doing this week. So if we have a guest, would you like us to tell you about the guest beforehand so then you can write in questions?
8:28Speaker 3Yeah. I believe we are do we have done that. So,
8:32Speaker 3Danny, I believe,
8:34Speaker 3is going to talk to us all about water.
8:36Speaker 2And how do you say it wrong? Caggen, Kangen, K
8:40Speaker 2A N G E N. A lot of stuff about water. Well, like, again, a lot of people don't even know that like, if you're drinking just typical water, you're not really like hydrating yourself. You need to add Celtic salt water or something like that. If you're peeing a lot, it just means you're not absorbing it. So like, that's why I'm always drinking salt water. It's not, you get used to it. It doesn't bug me anymore versus kind like, but
9:02Speaker 2that's why I do it because I want to be hydrated. You, when you wake up, you need to hydrate.
9:07Speaker 2Right. When you wake up, you need to have a bunch of water. So add some salt water to it. But anyway, she's going to tell us, I'm excited.
9:13Speaker 2We love having these guests. I hope that you guys do too. You know, it's peptide podcast, but like, man, health is not just peptides. It's like, it's a lot of different stuff. Like,
9:24Speaker 2we've learned so much. I've just loved it. I there's so much that I've learned on just doing this podcast.
9:29Speaker 2And I'm sure you have too.
9:31Speaker 2Yeah, we can maybe have you guys write in,
9:34Speaker 2give you guys a list because now we're starting to plan out, you know, different, you know, actually about a month and 2 out, so it's going well.
9:41Speaker 2So that's the last thing, obviously school,
9:44Speaker 2school's popping, you guys are loving it. That's awesome. We get a lot of comments on that. So yeah, if you're listening to this and you're not on our school platform,
9:54Speaker 2we post a lot of stuff on there. You just have to look at classroom.
9:59Speaker 2There's tons of free information,
10:01Speaker 2that a lot of people don't find because they don't look just cake classroom and then it's all free.
10:06Speaker 2Right there. Tons of stuff there. Tons.
10:09Speaker 3School, go to classrooms. 1st, it opens you up to the social media feed. Which people love. And then there's some menu items there at the top and then hit classroom and you will and poke around in there. Go see what see what there is to learn. Lots of stuff. Right? Different links to different websites. Right?
10:24Speaker 3Sourcing recommendations.
10:25Speaker 3Right? That's kind of 1 of the
10:28Speaker 3most important things I find is how
10:31Speaker 3tos and then sourcing recommendations.
10:33Speaker 2Yeah. It's there. Also, if you have some people that are, you think would be a good guest,
10:38Speaker 2you know, how generally most people, some of them are friends and some of them were finding on
10:43Speaker 2Instagram because obviously their algorithm picks up, you know, what we're into. But, man, there's some cool guests coming on. I'm excited to kind of sit down with some of them because I'm ready to learn a lot about what they talk about, a lot of different doctors and stuff. So it's gonna be cool. All
10:57Speaker 2right. Good stuff. All right. We're ready for the Q and A.
11:01Speaker 31. Hey guys, this is a question from my mom. She's 68, having surgery to repair bone spurs
11:06Speaker 3around her Achilles tendon. The surgeon says recovery will take 1 year. They're going to detach her tendon to clean the area and reattach. My mom is very receptive to help from peptides.
11:17Speaker 3I'd like to help her by giving her high doses of BPC and TB-five hundred stack as she recovers. I've helped her since,
11:24Speaker 3I've helped her since being sedentary
11:27Speaker 3to lose her
11:29Speaker 3weight by giving her 2 mgs of Retta weekly. She's down 21 pounds,
11:32Speaker 3trying to help her get weight down from 2 24 starting to now 2 0 4. Her surgery is scheduled in a month outside of giving her 2 MIGS Wolverine daily after surgery. Any recommendations? Thank you so much for all you guys do. So, I mean, she's almost 70 years old and
11:49Speaker 3probably hurts her to get up and move around because or else why would you be having the surgery?
11:55Speaker 3So that's pretty damn good for, like, losing 20 pounds. And my guess is she's, like you said, sedentary.
12:02Speaker 3Good for you. Anything else?
12:05Speaker 3Absolutely do the Reddit. Mean, it sounds like you already know the the Wolverine the Wolverine stack.
12:12Speaker 3I don't know. You know, I would give her some just general health, especially at her age. I think that some of these mitochondrial peptides will be really good for,
12:19Speaker 3a general
12:21Speaker 3make her feel better, like NAD plus,
12:23Speaker 3MOTS-3one,
12:26Speaker 3Glutathione.
12:29Speaker 3That's what comes to mind right now. Even B12, like methylcobalamin,
12:34Speaker 3which is the methylated form of B12.
12:36Speaker 3And
12:38Speaker 2I don't know, JD, what you got? Well, I mean, you can go up on the red eye if it's quick. She's going to be going in for a month. That's going to be the fastest way to get her to lose a little bit more weight so that you could do 3 or 4 megs. I'm not saying you should, I'm saying you can,
12:51Speaker 2that's going to be the fastest way. I mean, in regards to the healing, I want to focus on the healing of
12:57Speaker 2her
12:57Speaker 2Achilles.
12:59Speaker 2That sounds, that sucks. That sounds, so you want to definitely run that 3 weeks up in my opinion
13:05Speaker 2to it. Let's start getting that like saturated and let's start getting that compound in her. And you say high dose, you can actually, if you can afford it, you can go higher. I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't, and you can
13:17Speaker 2then more than 2 megs, you know? So that's another option, but I would say 3 weeks before
13:23Speaker 2start less than that and then run it after. You can do more if you can afford it to Migs if you want and she can handle it. Another option is what I did after I had my surgery and I didn't know about it until somebody suggested, so I started doing a reading about it, which was hyperbarics.
13:40Speaker 2Hyperbarics will expedite the healing.
13:42Speaker 2It, I think it worked for me. I mean, I took a lot of the Wolverine and I got into hyperbaric for 7 days in a row and I was in the gym in 2 weeks. I'm not expecting your mom to be back in 2 weeks because her surgery sounds a little bit more gnarly than mine.
13:57Speaker 2But these are things that can definitely help. And you definitely want to get her moving. You know, I know that's going to suck for her, but like after the surgery, you just need to move, get that blood flow. I know it's going to suck, but I moved. I did not allow myself to, I had like 1 day I think, and then like I was moving, like I had an objective to get better. She'll be, I mean, that foot will be immobilized. It'll be in a, in a cast or a walking boot. And so you don't you need some blood flow. Right? You need blood flow. My guess is with I've had a I've had surgery on my feet 3 times, I think. I think I have 2 pins in 1 foot and pin in the other foot.
14:32Speaker 3You'll
14:33Speaker 3some moving around. I mean, let her recover for a few for a few days. She's older. It's gonna take longer to recover.
14:39Speaker 3If you get her moving, just don't be don't do it for long periods of time. It's like, guarantee she's gonna need to lay down and elevate that foot. Sure. Because gravity's gonna be pulling all that blood down, and it's gonna be pulsing pulsing. But, yeah, your goal should be to get her up and I mean, hell, she can sit in a chair and lift weights with bands, right? That's resistance training and she absolutely should. Yeah, love it. But they have traveling hyperbaric, so they if need to, it might, I'm telling you it will help a little bit, so for sure. All right. I thank you both for creating this space and sharing your valuable experience with peptides. I am 41 year old woman. I love weights and heavy loads.
15:17Speaker 2I'm currently,
15:18Speaker 2I'm currently trying to gain as much muscle as possible, which I'm eating enough protein and carbs. This is my 2nd month using CJC-
15:27Speaker 2Ipamorelin,
15:28Speaker 2and I just added SS-thirty 1. I like
15:31Speaker 2every woman, I want to keep my abdomen as flat as possible. Would you recommend changing CJC for Tessa?
15:38Speaker 2If so, what would be the recommended
15:41Speaker 2dose? I'm also thinking of changing SS-thirty 1 for MOTS-C.
15:46Speaker 2Thoughts on that. You're very much. All right, thank you very much. God bless you both. Awesome. It's good stuff. I think we're both going to say yes. Yeah.
15:53Speaker 2Thoughts are yes, you should. Man, I'm going to tell you this,
15:57Speaker 2obviously for what we do for a living, we talk about this constantly. We,
16:02Speaker 2we, all our friends are talking about this constantly. And I'm going to tell you more and more and more and more and more people I'm hearing have bad reactions to CJC.
16:10Speaker 2All
16:11Speaker 2the time. And, I'm not trying to scare you,
16:14Speaker 2but with that being said, and just Tesamorelin,
16:16Speaker 2especially for women in my opinion, is so much better.
16:19Speaker 2For that reason, those 2 reasons alone, I would definitely do that. So I think you're gonna like it a lot better. But yeah, I'm even blown away by how many people are having responses towards CJC and really bad ones.
16:31Speaker 2Really, really bad histamine responses. When some people go in the hospital and stuff like that. And I'm not trying to scare anybody from using it, I'm just letting you know, we hear a lot about them. So
16:39Speaker 3pretty crazy. What would you say on the dosage? So I would say for women, kind of a Tesamorelin
16:44Speaker 3start at,
16:46Speaker 3don't, so there will be a point where
16:49Speaker 3your body starts retaining water. Okay.
16:52Speaker 3Everybody
16:53Speaker 3is different, especially women. That point is probably a little bit lower dose. And when you reach that point,
17:00Speaker 3that's basically your highest dose that you can do without having side effects. Now you can try Now if you just go, So where does it range? I'd probably feel safe starting at 500 micrograms
17:11Speaker 3daily.
17:14Speaker 3The clinical trials and the actual FDA approvals for up to 2 mg daily.
17:19Speaker 3So but I'd start at a I'd start at 500 micrograms,
17:23Speaker 3do that for a couple of weeks, stabilize, make sure that you're not retaining any water, and then bump up in increments of 2 50 micrograms.
17:31Speaker 3And do, if you bump up, right, do that for 2 weeks, right? 1 way to get faster water retention is to bump up really fast. So I wouldn't go from 500 to 1000. I'd go, especially as 1 in 500 to 2 52
17:44Speaker 3weeks, then another 2 50. And if you do start retaining water, great, just lower it back down to the last level and your body should normalize and you'll be just fine. Yeah. There's
17:53Speaker 3that's the thought. Now, SS-thirty
17:56Speaker 31,
17:57Speaker 3hell yeah. I, and I've always,
18:00Speaker 3I've always said high doses is the way to go. And I still believe that even higher doses JD and I are both taking, I'm taking 15 mg daily right now. And,
18:09Speaker 3my plan to go up to, I don't know, probably to 20, 25. Let's see what happens. But I would stick with your SS-thirty 1 for a month and
18:18Speaker 3I would run it. I would, I would do at least 5 mg. That's what I've always said. And for even though I'm doing 15, I'm a big guy and maybe I can, and I'm a, and I'm a man, but,
18:29Speaker 3that just means I have a bigger frame and I can tolerate things more. Okay.
18:34Speaker 3So I would do,
18:36Speaker 3I'd do that for a month for sure and then, yep, switch to MOTS-1C. Yeah. Okay.
18:42Speaker 3And you can pull the SS-thirty 1 and SS-thirty 1. You can do that, do MOTS-3.00 maybe 2 months,
18:48Speaker 3then go back to SS-thirty 1.
18:50Speaker 3And there's a lot more to do, but there it is. That's my dose. I think MOTS-1MQ is best at 1 mg daily. There's protocols out there saying like 5 mg once a week.
19:00Speaker 3Cool.
19:02Speaker 3I noticed when people do that, they don't feel very good. Like almost like hypertensive. Like it gives you just like too much energy. Like you just, you took too much pre workout and now you can, you can't go work out that feeling. Yeah.
19:13Speaker 3Or you did cocaine
19:15Speaker 3and you don't have any left
19:17Speaker 3even worse. So
19:20Speaker 2don't you do that? That's what I got for you. Yeah, that's perfect. I think the only thing that you could add is that like, if you wanted to add like an AOD in for
19:28Speaker 2women, I think it does amazing.
19:30Speaker 2The Tessa Ipamorelin
19:32Speaker 2mix for women, I think just really transforms their body because I just, most women, man, they just don't need a whole lot, you know? So you can add that in. I think it'll work well. Okay. I did want to actually want to say like you could, so I know, hey, your goal is to gain as much muscle as you possibly can, right?
19:48Speaker 3While keeping your stomach flat. I still think you can take Retta at a small dose. So the only reason that
19:54Speaker 3Retta is gonna conflict with muscle gain is if you're not, if it's restricting you from eating
19:59Speaker 3enough protein. Okay? Other than that, if you're able and with that's the beauty of it is like, still can't eat. Now, if you take high doses of Retta, yeah, hell yeah. It's going to cut down your appetite, but something like 0.5
20:11Speaker 3a milligram twice a week, right? Will keep your body burning fat, keep your stomach lean,
20:16Speaker 3help with nutrient protein. I mean, the list kind of goes on with Reta, but you can take a low dose to help supplement and still maintain your same appetite. And as long as you're getting the calories in
20:29Speaker 3great, it's not impeding your muscle growth.
20:31Speaker 2And for anybody that thinks that they can't get 1 g of protein per
20:36Speaker 2body weight, that's silly because if you take some Greek yogurt, you know, and then put 2 scoops of protein and mix it up and maybe put some blueberries in it or something, I mean, you got like 50 plus,
20:47Speaker 2maybe more, depending on how much Greek yogurt you use and how much protein, you know, is in your what you get, how many grams are in that. But it's so easy, especially if you're a small gal. You do eat that twice. I'm not saying you should have Greek yogurt.
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21:59Speaker 2Every day all day, but, like, it's really easy to get that. Like, so,
22:03Speaker 3you know Now I would argue I would argue you're right. And especially as a small gal, like, you can do you can do 50 grams of protein right there. Especially right. Now I'm under the belief that people that our bodies can only process a certain amount of protein. So there is something like called gluconeogenesis
22:19Speaker 3where when our body take if you were to eat a 150 grams of protein, whack, right now, your body would go, wow, there's so much protein. I'm not gonna use all of this, and it will
22:28Speaker 3convert that into sugar, into glucose.
22:32Speaker 3So that's a proven scientific principle.
22:34Speaker 3So but that's at more I still think I, as a grown man, can take about 50 grams of protein every 2 hours. The rest of it is just going to be pooped out and doesn't count. As a woman, I'd be aiming for
22:46Speaker 330
22:47Speaker 3grams maybe, and that's just general 30 grams per
22:52Speaker 3meal, but basically 2 hours. The, like the, best way I think to gain the most amount of muscle would be to have a syringe full of protein, right? And then inject myself every 2 hours, 20
23:03Speaker 3fourseven. Then that would maximize my protein intake.
23:07Speaker 3So
23:08Speaker 3real world example, right? You got to fit life in there, but that's about it. And use protein powder to your benefit, but you still better eat food. Yeah. Easy peasy. But it makes it easier when you can just whack, take a shake with 30, 40 g of protein. Yeah, make your each meal, work each meal around your protein. Yeah.
23:25Speaker 3And protein post workout 100% and
23:29Speaker 3right before bed, lean protein right before bed, you need the building materials right before you go to sleep because that's when we're asleep, that's what our body does most of that muscle building.
23:38Speaker 3Hey,
23:39Speaker 3love y'all's podcast. I'm 18 years old, 5
23:42Speaker 3foot tall, 96 pounds. I've been introduced to the peptides because my mom is a holistic doctor and has been using them to help her patients. Good for her Good job, mom.
23:52Speaker 3I begged to be put on Adderall when I was 14,
23:55Speaker 3for ADHD,
23:56Speaker 3and my mom didn't want me to, but she eventually gave in. I have been at the lowest possible dose since, but I want to be done with it, And I've been struggling to get off of it. Sleeping 16 hours, depression. Yep. I've been on NAD and glutathione since February for energy, and I'm wondering what other peps can help me help
24:14Speaker 3me that won't change my appetite.
24:17Speaker 3I tried MOTS-4C for a few months too, but my body fat went to 15%
24:22Speaker 3and that's a bit low for me. Oh, so when you say don't change your appetite, you mean it's, you don't want something that's gonna cut your appetite?
24:31Speaker 3Anyway, here's I have some plans for you. Tesofensine.
24:34Speaker 3So,
24:36Speaker 3let me take out the fact that you're 18 and I'm gonna answer this.
24:41Speaker 3Like, I guess that's not necessarily bad, but I don't know. I think young people But coming off drugs, yeah, I think you should get off the damn Adderall ASAP.
24:50Speaker 3Tesofensine is freaking awesome. It is a really good I mean, even Paul had in her, in his training
24:56Speaker 3tells mentions this to people. So Tesofensine
24:59Speaker 3will give you energy and like decrease your depression.
25:04Speaker 3And JD doesn't really notice a appetite
25:07Speaker 3killing, but sometimes I notice it not wanting not making me want to eat sweets. So that's like kind of a good thing in anybody's book. Yeah.
25:16Speaker 3So Tesofensine,
25:18Speaker 3Cmax.
25:20Speaker 3So Cmax, C Lank is the 1 that is a angiolytic that makes you calm. Cmax is the 1 that gives you energy,
25:27Speaker 3just neurological
25:29Speaker 3energy. So Semax,
25:31Speaker 3Tesofensine,
25:33Speaker 3you know, you could try Dihexa. Some people definitely feel energized
25:38Speaker 3and a bit happier.
25:39Speaker 3I don't think that taking
25:43Speaker 3what's that limitless pill? Oh, modafinil. I don't think modafinil is a good No. You're just trading
25:49Speaker 3you're just kind of trading drugs at that point. Yeah. But,
25:53Speaker 3but I don't know. I mean, if you take that for a, for a controlled amount of time to get off the Adderall and then you get off of the modafinil,
26:00Speaker 3if you're able to do that, I'm never able to do that. Although modafinil,
26:04Speaker 3don't get addicted to. So,
26:08Speaker 3those are my thoughts. I was
26:11Speaker 2curious how you're going to answer that 1. It's a, I think the 18 year old
26:15Speaker 2through throws us both off and that's so young to us now.
26:20Speaker 2So I wasn't going to even really answer it much. Think you said, set a great team actually along because they're perfect. I'm going to go at it from a different angle because we'll answered it. If you want to that type of help from a peptide advice, that's perfect.
26:33Speaker 2Yeah, that, and if there's any parents listening to this,
26:37Speaker 2it sucks. I know it like these
26:40Speaker 2types of drugs, Adderall and things like this, these are narcotics and their problems. And I don't think they're going to be the answers, you know? And I'm not judging this parent. It's not what I'm talking about, but it's a sucks to get off this stuff. It really does, you know? And,
26:55Speaker 2to the person that wrote into this, I
26:58Speaker 2feel that you can really connect and get off of that stuff when you like start helping other people and doing for other people and getting out of yourself.
27:06Speaker 2And I know that might sound a little woo woo, but I really believe God blesses you when you do that because getting off narcotics, we've been there, it sucks.
27:15Speaker 2And it's not even necessarily narcotics if you're going through something difficult. My daughter went through some stuff in high school that was difficult. And I would always say, Taylor, your mom and tell her how much you love her and tell her why. And she's like, And I'm like, because you're not thinking of you. You know what I mean? And these are just some things that you can start to cultivate in your own life that, you know, we don't want you to always think that you need to take something, you know, you're 18 and like, this is a peptide podcast, but we really want to, I know, I know I can speak for will on this. I don't speak for him often, but I know I can speak for will on this. When we say, we don't think people need to take everything in perpetuity. This is a peptide podcast, but like, we want you to get the base and the base is you feeling great without anything, especially at 18, you know, you don't really necessarily need peptides.
27:58Speaker 2Now, if it's
27:59Speaker 2you getting on like an antidepressant
28:02Speaker 2or Cmax or C launch without a doubt, get on the C LONC or Cmax.
28:08Speaker 2But
28:09Speaker 2I really believe that God knows what he's doing. And if you can just put in effort to
28:16Speaker 2find your sweet spot in your soul, if that makes any sense,
28:21Speaker 2you'll have a lot of time to take peptides. I hope that makes some sense,
28:25Speaker 2because you can get off the Adderall. You should get off the Adderall and
28:32Speaker 2start trying to enjoy life. And I have found the most joy when I'm helping other people. Hope that helps. And the final thing is you will not find a way to get off of this pain, pain free.
28:44Speaker 3Okay. So you're waiting to find the answer where you get to stop and
28:49Speaker 3you get to stop. And like,
28:51Speaker 3there is no depression whatsoever and no tiredness. Just like, I just need that seamless magic pill that makes me perfectly get off. It's
28:58Speaker 3not going to happen. So
29:00Speaker 3I always, every time I had to detox, you know, it was just always amazed me that and coming off opiates is a different story. But,
29:08Speaker 3like, man, it's like 4 or 5 days out of, from out of my life, my entire life. And I'm just still on, and I just cannot
29:17Speaker 3do that, which blew my mind. Like for this Adderall, you've been on it for a little while and I get it. It's tough, but just for the rest of your life, happiness, right? You just gotta be a little bit miserable for
29:28Speaker 3a day, maybe 2 days maybe. Right?
29:31Speaker 3So just kind of know that you're not looking for a pain free answer regardless
29:35Speaker 3of what LL-1T you take and nothing's going to really be fully pain free.
29:40Speaker 2I, I, yes, I agree with everything. JD said more good stuff. All right. My, yeah. Yes. All right. Hi guys. I recently found your podcast and I'm hooked. I'm 32 year old female who lost 60 pounds 0.5 naturally
29:54Speaker 2and the rest with Tirzepatide.
29:56Speaker 2Good for you. And it's completely changed my life. I had back surgery 7 years ago and I've noticed Tirzepatide seems to really help with my inflammation. I'm currently training for 2nd
30:07Speaker 2high rocks race,
30:09Speaker 2and my goal is to build more lean muscle. I'm, finishing my last bottle of Tirzepatide,
30:15Speaker 2and I've been considering Retrutide,
30:17Speaker 2but I'm a little intimidated by all the different peptides out there and want to keep things simple. Is there anything you'd recommend
30:25Speaker 2that, could help with inflammation
30:27Speaker 2while supporting those goals? Also the best way to transition from being Entrezeppatide
30:33Speaker 3to Retta. Thank thank you guys for your awesome. That's awesome. Yo. Do you know what HYROX is? No.
30:39Speaker 3It is.
30:41Speaker 3It is a fitness racing competition and here are the events apparently.
30:46Speaker 3Correct. I'm sorry if, if these chains, like, you know, CrossFit is like just brand new shit, which is kinda why it's cool. But number 1, ski
30:54Speaker 3the thousand meters on the ski machine. That's like, you know, the these things that pull down. Yeah.
31:00Speaker 3Sled push, 50 meters. Wow. Sled pull, 50 meters. Burpee broad jumps, 80 meters. Rowing, thousand meters on the rowing machine. Farmers carry 200 meters carrying kettlebells, sandbag lunges, a 100 meters walk. That one's tough. A 100 meters walking lunges with sandbags on your shoulders,
31:18Speaker 3wall balls, a 100 reps throwing a medicine 3 ball to a target.
31:21Speaker 2Dang. That sounds gnarly. Yeah, it does. So good for you. 0 Gosh, I would expect that to lose a loop like in the training, you would be losing a crazy amount of weight.
31:30Speaker 2You need to make sure you're eating girls. Like you're going to do all that stuff. That's a lot. So you need to make sure you've been eating your
31:37Speaker 2protein for sure.
31:39Speaker 2I mean, we're going to both say you should switch to Retatrutide.
31:42Speaker 2Do you need it? You didn't really say how much you need to lose.
31:45Speaker 2Again,
31:47Speaker 2nothing needs to be in perpetuity.
31:49Speaker 2Know,
31:51Speaker 2Retatrutide
31:52Speaker 2without a doubt is better than Tirzepatide. You know, some people disagree because they like to not have hunger. You should have hunger and you should eat,
31:59Speaker 2especially you, you need to eat.
32:01Speaker 2You need to be eating and you need to, if the tirzepatide could actually make you be eating not enough,
32:07Speaker 2because that actually kind of blocks the hunger a bit more.
32:11Speaker 2So, and if to answer your question in regards to the inflammation, to me is an easy 1. It would be TA-one, MSN Alpha-one,
32:19Speaker 2because that's going bring down your inflammation.
32:21Speaker 2It's really,
32:22Speaker 2talked about the most for its immunity,
32:25Speaker 2but it's the best for inflammation.
32:28Speaker 2So you can definitely add that. And in regards to the Retatrutide, if you're going to run a GLP-one, absolutely, you should change to,
32:36Speaker 2that.
32:37Speaker 2Dosa, did you want to take that part? Yeah, sure.
32:40Speaker 3Let me finish my do my recommendation on so you, if it were me and I'm doing all this stuff and competing and you've done it a few times, like I would need BPC and TB-five hundred
32:50Speaker 3to heal my joints
32:52Speaker 3and everything else. So that just might help you a ton. Think about that. SLU-332
32:58Speaker 3is going to really help with nutrient partitioning, make sure the right nutrients are going right to the right places and endurance.
33:06Speaker 3So it's a great, it's a great 1 to take intra competition.
33:10Speaker 3And
33:11Speaker 3then, yeah, he's right. Like your goal is to build as much muscle as possible. Then, yeah, get the hell off of the Tirzepatide because for sure, you built some tolerance to it by now, but it's still,
33:23Speaker 3I get that inflammation thing, but Thymosin Alpha, I would use for the inflammation
33:28Speaker 3and I would a 100% switch to Retta. You may
33:31Speaker 3have a little bit more hunger. You probably will have a little bit more hunger, but cool,
33:36Speaker 3great. Use it to,
33:38Speaker 3use it to your benefit and eat good, healthy protein with that extra hunger. Now the wean off period is so basically the dosings are based are pretty
33:50Speaker 3much exactly the same.
33:53Speaker 3I would, I always like to play things conservatively, so I don't know if she tells us what dose she's at in Tirzepatide.
33:59Speaker 3Let's imagine you're at 5 mg a week Tirzepatide,
34:02Speaker 3and I would hope that you're doing it 2 to 3 times a week, just because we found that that's more comfortable and works better. If you're at 5 megs of Tirzepatide,
34:10Speaker 3I would probably,
34:11Speaker 3I don't even, I think I would pull the band aid off. I would go, I would pull 5 and I would start with 3. That's what I was gonna say. Okay. Let's start with 3. See how feel. And
34:22Speaker 3then, you know, I would, you could bump up, but so Retta takes a little bit longer. I'd almost say like 2 weeks to really like start to feel
34:30Speaker 3its effect. So a lot of people, if they take it for 1 week and then they bump up,
34:34Speaker 3that was too early of a bump up. And then that week, that 3rd week they go, oh shit, now it's too much. So I would go in 2 week intervals before you make decisions to bump back up. And I would do it twice a week, 2 times a week, 2 to 3 times a week. It's up to you. I've, you know, it's up to you.
34:52Speaker 3And,
34:54Speaker 3but I also would probably back out about 5 mg of Retta. I'd start with 3, and I would try to stay there. Hopefully, you can just stay at 3.
35:01Speaker 3Really help us if you told us how much weight you need to lose. Yes. Now the SLUOP, here's the thing. I would I know that there is there's 100 mg SLUOP out there for you and your competition.
35:11Speaker 3I would if I was you, I'd be taking the 1000
35:14Speaker 3microgram, which is 1 mg
35:17Speaker 3sublingual
35:18Speaker 3tablets.
35:19Speaker 3K?
35:20Speaker 3And, school
35:22Speaker 3has sourcing information
35:25Speaker 3and full bios of everything that we talk about. Yeah. So you want to know what the, like, the written
35:31Speaker 3literature is on anything we talk about? It's there for you. You're that.
35:35Speaker 2Cool. Cool. Alright. Cool. Yeah.
35:37Speaker 3I think, no, I am.
35:39Speaker 3Love and love and listen to your show daily on repeat. Keep
35:44Speaker 3up the awesome info. Others have asked this question before in your Q and A, but in my opinion, it really wasn't answered to how they meant it. Okay. So I'm going to try because I have the same question. Wolverine equal parts, BPC-157
35:55Speaker 3TB-four.
35:56Speaker 3When drawing a dose, what guarantees me that exact equal parts of each compound end up in the syringe?
36:03Speaker 3I have a hard time believing that 2 separate chains of amino acids
36:07Speaker 3mix perfectly together
36:09Speaker 3and you get exact equal parts like mixing cranberry juice and orange juice. Sometimes it tastes more like cranberry and sometimes
36:17Speaker 3more orange.
36:18Speaker 3This is stirred even shaking and peptides aren't.
36:24Speaker 3I don't, I disagree
36:26Speaker 3with your original premise.
36:29Speaker 2I was wondering how you were going ask this. This is why I love that we don't talk about it anymore. We would sit down and read 1st and then now that we don't, because I was kind of curious how you're going to ask this. Literally just sat down and wrote an article about
36:42Speaker 3blends and why they do work just fine
36:46Speaker 3when made put together. Right. And, but that had to do with pH concerns.
36:52Speaker 3And
36:54Speaker 3yes, the ratio is this exact same. So, yeah, cool. If you want to take more of 1, you can't, but that's limiting,
37:00Speaker 3but it,
37:02Speaker 3this article did not address
37:04Speaker 3this. It
37:06Speaker 3didn't address this, but I disagree
37:09Speaker 3with,
37:11Speaker 3I don't know. You know what? I like, I'll do some more research, but I think if when put into in the bacterial static like aqueous solution,
37:19Speaker 3and they're floating around together and shaking or stirred, yeah, you should do, you can do this with the bottle.
37:28Speaker 3I think they mix perfectly fiftyfifty.
37:31Speaker 2Let
37:32Speaker 3me, let me go actually really, really dive into it. Sorry.
37:35Speaker 2Is weird.
37:36Speaker 2And my personality are so different because I'm like, gives a shit? Because it's like, man, we that worried about it? Because it's like, if the difference is If you were that worried, just do them separate. If you're that worried and like, I'm not being disrespectful, I'm just saying, well, that's just my personality. I'm just like, I pour a drink and it has a little bit of orange juice and a little bit of, I'm not worried if they're the same. I'm just, this tastes good. You know what mean? I think that like, sometimes, man, just go easy.
38:01Speaker 2And if you if this this question is really that important to you, buy them separate. Yeah. And and if the error is
38:10Speaker 3like, I can't even Like, imagine micromic
38:13Speaker 3like, micromicogram off. Like, who cares? Like Yeah. You put 4 mg
38:16Speaker 3in there.
38:18Speaker 3I mean, it and frankly, with these and most things, it doesn't it's not gonna make it bring a difference. If you get if you put 4 mg total like a PD or a little more
38:28Speaker 3and 2.5
38:30Speaker 3in that shot. You're not gonna notice. Well, the next 1, you'll get more TV. Exactly. And and it really they're don't they don't matter that much. Right? When people are, like, looking at the syringe, right, and like, oh, I'm getting over. Do I put it here or there? I'm like, fuck, it does. You see how I do my peptide? Just doesn't matter. It looks like tin. Not a big It's tin. Like, so this
38:48Speaker 2Everybody's different though, man. Like- Yeah. Listen, dude, you're not me. That's how I deal with stuff. I'm a little bit more kamikaze.
38:54Speaker 3But what I'm saying is if you literally mix exactly a mix
38:57Speaker 3cranberry juice and orange juice, I feel like you get
39:01Speaker 3the same amount of each,
39:04Speaker 2but I guess not. Sometimes I think we're thinking too much. Yeah. I always thought that they'd mix.
39:10Speaker 3Mean, you can see oil and water don't mix. That's what doesn't mix. Right? If it turns into 1 solid color,
39:17Speaker 2it's mixed.
39:18Speaker 2Okay, next. I'm old school, man. I'm just like, let's think about something If
39:23Speaker 2that's your worry, bro,
39:26Speaker 2your life must be great.
39:28Speaker 3Yes, life must be complex in every decision.
39:31Speaker 2Fuck. Good day, fellas. 1st of all, thank you for all that you do. You guys provide so much valuable information and I love the honesty and transparency.
39:38Speaker 2Thank you. I am 45 year old male, five'ten,
39:42Speaker 2tall, 190
39:44Speaker 2pounds active, jujitsu,
39:46Speaker 2and consistent lifting. Good man. I started peptides
39:50Speaker 23 ish months ago and about to cycle off Tesamorelin.
39:54Speaker 2I currently run 2.5 megs of Retta 2 times a week, 1 mg of MOTS-seed daily,
40:01Speaker 21 mg of 5 Amino daily,
40:03Speaker 2IGF-1LR3
40:06Speaker 2after lifting and jujitsu.
40:08Speaker 2I am contemplating hopping on 2 IUs of HGH daily and doing away with the GHRH
40:16Speaker 2secretagogue.
40:16Speaker 2So my question is this:
40:19Speaker 2have been numerous debates on the Peptide of the Week school community regarding running IGF-1LR-three,
40:25Speaker 2PEG, MGF,
40:27Speaker 2or Tessa with HGH.
40:29Speaker 2What is your opinion of running IGF-1LR-three
40:32Speaker 2while fully cycling HGH? We literally asked this, we had this exact same question and we answered it. So yeah, I mean, please watch the last video. I mean, I've done them both. I think if you really want to be safe, don't run it. Like if you really, really, really want to be safe, there's
40:49Speaker 2no like full blown studies that are going to be anybody will answer it definitively for you. If you want to be on the safer side, just run HGH. I'm going to say HGH blows all them away anyway, just do HGH.
40:59Speaker 2I run HGH and,
41:02Speaker 2know, IGF-1LR-three
41:03Speaker 2all the time. And I've done it for
41:06Speaker 2many times and I'm fine. And I know that it's not too much.
41:11Speaker 2We know a lot of people that have done it. So I can tell you that I've never even heard of anybody having a problem.
41:17Speaker 2But it depends on you. Do you want to be super safe or do you want to like try them a little bit? That's why, you know, their research peptides, you're trying to, how do you feel? How do you, how are you going to look? Do you feel better? We're not saying run the IGF-one
41:29Speaker 2in
41:30Speaker 2perpetuity like the HGH you can,
41:34Speaker 2but I hope that helps. I was not trying to confuse it.
41:37Speaker 3I've done it many times. Yep. In the last 1, we did talk about this and had,
41:41Speaker 3and I agree there's, there is no, there's no answer that we're gonna give you that
41:47Speaker 3there's a risk. It's not perfectly safe.
41:51Speaker 3And you yes, you can do them.
41:53Speaker 3Yeah. You can do them. Don't do them a lot, but different people react a little bit differently, but it's not gonna be purely safe.
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42:44Speaker 2It might be really good and beneficial too. Think about this. That's like saying you shouldn't run testosterone with Mastroon because they're both a testosterone base, but like, like, you know what I mean? Where it's like you can, if
42:54Speaker 2you run Mastroon and
42:57Speaker 2testosterone and Primo and Winstraw, it's less safe for sure. You should do it, but like people do it all the time.
43:04Speaker 3They look great. And it will work better, but it will be less safe.
43:08Speaker 2What do you feel? Like, do you feel safe doing that?
43:12Speaker 2So I'm sure that made sense. Right? Yeah, it did make sense. So
43:15Speaker 3Best stack when you're breaking from Retta.
43:17Speaker 3Should we take breaks from Retta to prevent our bodies from becoming immune to it? Do you recommend switching to Tirzepatide or SLU-4maintenance?
43:27Speaker 3I think that's subjective. How
43:32Speaker 2much weight do you want to lose? What's your objective?
43:34Speaker 2If you're somebody that's really, really struggling with weight and stuff like that, again,
43:39Speaker 2let's get back to the goal of life. Let's be as healthy as we can and take as least amount of anything that we can because like, that's how God created us. Now we can take supplements to enhance ourselves, but like,
43:51Speaker 2So the goal would be,
43:54Speaker 2no, I don't think that you should stay on it. And I think, do you think that you should cycle it? What's that mean? I don't know. Like what it really is dictated
44:03Speaker 2by like what your objective is
44:05Speaker 2and how much that you need to lose. And there's a lot of different rad peptides, and I'm not saying you should try them all, but you can. There's
44:13Speaker 2a lot of not there's nothing that's going to compete with Retatrutide.
44:17Speaker 2You have Tesofensine that would some say that it does. I don't think it does, but a lot of people think that it does. But
44:24Speaker 2it's a good appetite suppression. It's a good, weaner donor. Yeah. But there's a lot of my point. So no, you could, you could, if your weights where you want it,
44:33Speaker 2hopefully you have changed your eating habits and cut out some, a lot of the sugar and you're eating that protein. Like you're supposed to, like we always talk about
44:41Speaker 2and,
44:42Speaker 2you're hormonally optimized
44:44Speaker 2and your weight training and all the stuff that we talk about here constantly
44:50Speaker 2because the peptides are just the add on like you got to build the base, dude. It's only once you have the base, I was the most ripped ever in my life when I was on nothing. I'm serious.
44:59Speaker 2Like I was just fasting a lot, super on carnivore and I was literally on nothing for a full year. It was in my head was fixed
45:06Speaker 2and I was chiseled. Now I wasn't as buff, but I was super ripped, you know? You can't at this point. Yeah. So I agree. Like,
45:14Speaker 3it's subjective. I don't think that anybody should be on a dependent to any drug or anything forever.
45:22Speaker 3But either also we know that like these are meant to reticent is meant to take long term. So Semaglutide and Trizepatide it's okay.
45:31Speaker 3People have been on these things for a long, long time. You just be smart,
45:35Speaker 3but just like every other thing, right? For every action, there's an equal or greater reaction. So longer you're on it,
45:43Speaker 3the
45:44Speaker 3more your body gets used to it. And, but you won't become immune. 1st of all, immune is not the right word, but it's okay. It'll still work. But it'll still work. Yeah. We build tolerances to it over time. So over time, 10 years from now, if you're on Retta, you will need to be taking more than 10 years than from right now. Okay.
46:00Speaker 3But you can still make it work. It'll still work, but do you want to be on that long? Is there any bad side effects for 10 years of use? We don't know because it hasn't been here for 10 years. Yeah. But we're, we, we think actually not.
46:13Speaker 2So yeah, it is subjective. I wouldn't say force yourself to get off every 6 weeks by any means. There's nothing wrong with the person staying on. Yeah. And like, so I wanna, I wanna, I wanna say this again, even though we say it a lot, because I think it's just due And that's why we're doing the coaching. I
46:31Speaker 2know Will well, and I know that he's going to agree with this because we believe in just like pure health, like diet,
46:39Speaker 2having a, you know, being disciplined in your diet and
46:42Speaker 2know, weight training and all the things that we talk about constantly being a hormonally optimized.
46:47Speaker 2And if you're not doing those things and you need help, that's why we're starting the program. I'm not selling you on it, but like, if you're worried about taking Retatrut the rest of your life, let's fix that. Let's build your base, you know? And if you need help, we'll try to help you. But no, I don't think that anybody should be running anything in perpetuity, except for TRT and HGH.
47:05Speaker 2I'm
47:07Speaker 2just trying to lose weight because of them. Just keeping my levels where they should be.
47:11Speaker 2Yep. All right, you're up. I'm up. Reading.
47:13Speaker 2Right. What's up, fellas? Just got to show some love. Love that.
47:19Speaker 2I watch your podcasts constantly and I have learned so much. I am a 44 year old male police officer in Ohio.
47:25Speaker 2Nice. Who recently got involved with peptides. I've been a gym rat for 25 years. Good for you. And I'm not just putting
47:32Speaker 2the puzzle pieces together. Better late than never. Here are my stats and protocols.
47:37Speaker 2Free total tests, 7 57 free tests, 119.
47:41Speaker 2Estradiol 35 LH-5L-0.5-0.5.
47:46Speaker 2Oh yeah, 0.5. Sorry. Where am I at? I am stacking Retatr, MOTS-1C,
47:51Speaker 2GLOW,
47:51Speaker 2and just started CJC Ipamorelin.
47:54Speaker 2I have dropped 25 pounds in 2 months on peptides and I would like to continue
48:00Speaker 2shredding my body fat and I am sitting near 21%.
48:03Speaker 2Also, I just ordered PT-one 141 because my sex drive has plummeted. Any suggestions for changing on my stack for getting ripped? I'm not opposed to HGH,
48:14Speaker 2but I didn't want to start out of the gate with it. God bless you.
48:19Speaker 2Wow. Okay.
48:21Speaker 3Those numbers are pretty good. Except the luteinizing hormone, which we're not really familiar with. And luckily I have that written pre research written down.
48:28Speaker 2Some things kill your sex drive because 119 is good for sex drive. Well, something's off. It's the luteinizing hormone. So
48:35Speaker 3that's your natural
48:37Speaker 3test production and that is suppressed heavily.
48:40Speaker 3With, this is why you have to run a test base when you run any other steroids because they just suppress the hell out of you. You're open for the testosterone to make up the difference. Sometimes,
48:51Speaker 3your
48:53Speaker 3nuts still need to be working a little bit. Right? It still helps. Like, that's where that's the real deal. So I know you're taking 7 fives, you're at 7 57 and 119,
49:02Speaker 3but still we want your, your nuts to be working,
49:06Speaker 2and producing some testosterone. So yes. Did he say he's running the testosterone? Oh
49:11Speaker 3yeah. No, he didn't say that if he was. Oh, I guess he was. I was just guessing that at 44.
49:15Speaker 2Curious. I read that he wasn't, but like those numbers, I guess he probably is probably a lower dose of TRT. Yeah.
49:23Speaker 3But JT is right. Like with those numbers, your sex drive decreased odd.
49:27Speaker 3That's not good. Expect it to be high, respect sex drive And why and when did it suddenly decrease? You know what I'm saying? Is there any event or did you make a change?
49:37Speaker 3But I would if you're doing tests, I would run some HCG. Hey, if you're not doing tests,
49:42Speaker 3I would do I would do you're not I mean, shit it. I don't I can't imagine that you're not doing testing. I would think so.
49:48Speaker 3You're not. You're killing it. You know, A-forty 4.
49:51Speaker 3Enclomiphene seems to actually really kind of work.
49:55Speaker 3It suppresses it suppresses estrogen and therefore body reacts and, like, creates testosterone kind of an odd way. HCG just goes direct to the source
50:04Speaker 3and stimulates
50:07Speaker 3gonadal function.
50:08Speaker 3So
50:09Speaker 2I'd run HCG for sure. I hope most people run-in TRT or run an HCG. Like that's been something we've
50:15Speaker 2ran for, like, to keep us fertile for a long time. But like now we know with sitting with a bunch of different doctors and stuff that know what they're talking about, that you should run the HCG with it. And the HCG, do think you should cycle off with. I don't think a person should be running an HCG consistent
50:29Speaker 3for 10 years.
50:31Speaker 3That's just a personal thing
50:34Speaker 3that based on what I've seen from people. So, yeah, I would run some HCG and I would start it. I would, I don't know, shit, go heavy with it. You know, do thousand
50:41Speaker 3IUs.
50:42Speaker 3It can't hurt 3 times a week for a month. And then you can like drop down to like a maintenance of
50:49Speaker 3maybe like 5, maybe like 500 IUs twice a week or something like that after.
50:55Speaker 3Go ahead. I'm sorry, interrupted you. So HGH,
50:58Speaker 2you say you're not opposed. Again, you're 44. I think that that's just
51:03Speaker 2the best option if you're, I think it's gonna compete hell a lot better than the secretagogue. So if you're gonna do it, might as well do it. Another 1 is I'm sure we'll, would have probably caught this too, is the MK-677
51:13Speaker 2is not
51:14Speaker 2a peptide, but is a non peptide secreted dog. And you'll
51:19Speaker 2be hungry and you'll eat more, but you also,
51:22Speaker 2it's the closest thing to gear that you can get in my opinion, and I've done it often.
51:27Speaker 2You'll be a fuller. You'll look like you're almost even kind of running gear if you do it right. And because you'll just be a lot more fuller. That would be something that you should try if you've never tried it.
51:38Speaker 2Maybe try that before the HGH,
51:40Speaker 2maybe drop the CJC and go with MK-677.
51:44Speaker 2I think you'll like it because you'll definitely look a little buffer. And
51:49Speaker 2so
51:50Speaker 2I'm gonna just throw you what I use a lot and I think any man,
51:54Speaker 2women are really going be a little bit but man, men over 40 dude, man, if you're not implementing fasting in your life,
52:01Speaker 2geez, you are just, you want to, you want to change your, the way that you look fast. I just did a 48 hour fast yesterday. I just got done in like a good friend of mine. Like my brother did the dude that made the call that said, you're not acting like that. That was who came over. He was about to come in. Anyways,
52:17Speaker 2or I would've done 1 to 72 because I felt great.
52:20Speaker 2You trim off that little extra bad and you discipline yourself. I can go on and on the way. So if you're 40 and you listen, listen, you don't fast, man, I would really advise you to start trying to fast a little bit, maybe cut out breakfast
52:32Speaker 23 to 5 times a week, just for fun. Just eat 2 meals. You don't eat as much food as you think. Just utilize carbs right before you lift and after you lift and then really no carbs after you'll lean up dude, for sure. So that's not a peptide, but I'm telling you, man, it will work. That's true. We're at work. It works. Feel fast. Great dude. Like when you're like you're a police officer, right? Is this a police officer? Yeah. Think so. Yeah. You're so focused when you're fasted because when you eat,
53:00Speaker 2you digest, you burn energy and you get tired. Right?
53:04Speaker 2And when you're fasted, you were just
53:07Speaker 2on it, man. Your brain's firing because you're not using that energy to digest.
53:12Speaker 3Dope, dude. And the blood, like when you start, when you eat, all the blood leaves your brain and goes to your stomach to digest. And that's why I'm gonna get Yep,
53:20Speaker 3that's great. I think that,
53:23Speaker 3yeah, man, I mean, to get ripped, you know, you're a gym rat, but
53:27Speaker 3diet and exercise and consistent 1
53:30Speaker 3training and smart training and,
53:32Speaker 3and diet
53:34Speaker 2Well, again,
53:35Speaker 2peptide, are you utilizing
53:37Speaker 2carbs at our age? Jeez bro, Wait till you get 49. It's a bitch. Like, man, I'd
53:43Speaker 2say 2 times the, I like hit something 38.
53:47Speaker 2I like literally a boof, woah, I got all chubby and fat. I couldn't figure it out. And then 49,
53:52Speaker 2I've recently gone boom. And I'm just trying to find my sweet spot. Know I talk about it often, but like there's lot of new lizards. I'm trying to find it.
54:01Speaker 2That's why I'm fasting and doing different things. I've actually pulled the HGH,
54:05Speaker 2believe it or not. I have pulled out the HGH
54:08Speaker 2because of some gut stuff that I'm dealing with. And that's rare for me. We'll tell you. That's what
54:13Speaker 2we do. We try and figure it out. So a
54:17Speaker 2diet
54:18Speaker 2and how you lift and how you utilize carbs for men 40 is absolutely
54:23Speaker 3vital. Yeah, it is. Yep. Food affects us way more than it did when I was younger. All right, here's my quick suggestion for you.
54:29Speaker 3You might want to go Tesamorelin
54:32Speaker 3and Ipamorelin instead of the CJC. Definitely. Just because Tessa just helps keep that belly leaner and burn fat a bit more. Okay.
54:40Speaker 3I would try SS-thirty 1, high dose SS-thirty 1 for a month.
54:45Speaker 3You feel like running a little self experiment,
54:48Speaker 3do it. You watched the last podcast. And yeah. And, I would, like I said, HCG,
54:54Speaker 3but also,
54:55Speaker 3you know, tell us your dose of Retta.
54:58Speaker 3If you're a gym rat, you're
55:02Speaker 3that should be working.
55:04Speaker 3If you're taking tests and everything else, the Retta should be and you did say you lost shit 25 I mean, dropped 25 pounds in 2 months on Peptide. So I guess keep going. Yeah. That's a lot of weight. You may not even need to ask this question. You just might in 2 in another 2 months, you might be there and be like, alright. Seriously. I did it. There I am. So keep going, man. I don't keep you.
55:24Speaker 2Thanks for the kind words, man. It's awesome. Yeah, thank you.
55:26Speaker 3You guys are awesome. I'm 33, fairly lean and athletic, and about 14% body fat. Currently on TRRT and have been using Tesla Ipah for a while. I had great success with it. I'm about 2 weeks away from the end of the current cycle of Tesla Ipah. I'd like to get down even more in body fat before vacation to September. Do you have any recommendations for this specific goal? Would Retta be beneficial, or am I already too low in body fat for Retta? I've never used it, so I'm not sure. Athletic performance is important for me.
55:56Speaker 3Will this hinder that in any way? Thank you from a firefighter,
56:00Speaker 3father of 3 and a husband down in New Mexico. All right. Now that I know you're, that's a man. 33. And 33. Hell no, I would do it. I understand.
56:10Speaker 3You know, don't just go here and just do a whole bunch of Retta and say you don't eat. That's where it's going hinder your performance if you're not getting enough food to fuel your body. Okay. And it shouldn't, taken right or right, you should maintain your eating habits. In fact, your eating habits should be better because you're eating small,
56:27Speaker 3frequent, good meals, but it absolutely should not cause you to like not eat and therefore lower energy and therefore not be able to do your job as a firefighter. Okay. You're at 14% body fat. Yep. You got, you got,
56:39Speaker 3you got percentage points to lose. You're not too lean.
56:43Speaker 310% is basically where we get to see that you see your abs. You're
56:48Speaker 3close, You'll get it. You know, you're close. You will get it. I mean, the fact you're there, you're firefighter, you know how to live active, you would live active
56:54Speaker 3and you haven't taken Retta,
56:57Speaker 3then do it and watch the miracle happen.
57:01Speaker 2Yeah.
57:02Speaker 3I haven't seen it. Did he say SLU-1MQ I would try taking SLU-1MQ That might be fun. It will help your
57:08Speaker 3cardiovascular.
57:09Speaker 3It will help your endurance. It will help with nutrient partitioning, which means if we're worried about losing muscle,
57:15Speaker 3that's 1 of those things that you want to take when you're worried about losing muscle, because then all that protein that you actually eat is
57:21Speaker 3being used to its fullest benefit, right? It is shuttling right into your muscles, which is 1 of the main benefits of what IGF-one
57:27Speaker 3does. And
57:31Speaker 3so, yeah, do that. Eat lots of protein.
57:36Speaker 2Yeah. Was looking to see, he didn't say anything about like lifting weights and whatnot. So
57:41Speaker 2I was just looking at him. Again, I'm going to be redundant. Just get old school, man. Like diet is huge. Fasting is huge.
57:48Speaker 2Lift heavy shit.
57:49Speaker 2Like
57:50Speaker 2it's going to always depend on your objective, but the easiest way to get to where you want to be in September,
57:57Speaker 2is that this guy? Yeah. Yeah. Think so. Is a Retta. Yeah. Yeah. And I'd
58:04Speaker 3start with 0.5 of like, dude, honestly, you can do 0.5 of a milligram
58:08Speaker 23 times a week. I start when I started Reda,
58:12Speaker 2I was already really lean
58:14Speaker 2and I did a little bit. I think I started with a Meg, 3 mgs and it went down to 0.5 a Meg 3 times a week. And dude, look at videos when I was running Reda. I was so freaking lean. My face was like, it goes a long way, man. It really works really well. And so that will work the fastest, but like I'm a, I've said it many times. I'm a fat burner guy. Like I love SLU-3L-1MQ,
58:39Speaker 2IGF-1MQ, IGF-one. You know, those are the ones that I love. It was funny when Trevor was on here. He likes the nootropics. Like he's a brain guy. He likes, I like to burn fat. You know what mean? So like you can calm, you can stack these, you can stack, like, don't, you can do more than just a little bit of red, a little bit of sloop. Like you can get it there. I'm not saying you need to stack 5 or 4 compounds, but you can. And if you're really trying to get lean in a month and 0.5,
59:03Speaker 2you can do without gear by doing that
59:05Speaker 2and eating
59:07Speaker 2and fasting and
59:09Speaker 2lifting
59:10Speaker 2heavy shit. Gotta do that.
59:13Speaker 3Gotta work out.
59:16Speaker 2You're- Taking us home? You are. Right. For female,
59:20Speaker 2a female 42 year old IGF-one
59:22Speaker 2marker
59:23Speaker 2did not increase after a cycle of Tessa and Ipamore
59:27Speaker 2nor on IpA alone,
59:29Speaker 2would it be suggested to do IGF-1LR3
59:33Speaker 2possibly,
59:34Speaker 2to possible DES or go to actual HGH at a low dose or 1 IU?
59:40Speaker 2Mainly looking to maintain
59:42Speaker 2a weight and build lean muscle already have hormones optimized
59:46Speaker 2at goal weight and low body fat. Currently running a low maintenance dose of Reta at 0.5 mg weekly. That's super low just for maintenance and regular cycle
59:56Speaker 2mitochondria
59:56Speaker 2peptides throughout the year. Thanks so much.
1:00:00Speaker 3So, okay, so you, 42 year old female, it sounds like you're on your shit, right? Like you are. Are. You, you, you, you, you The fact that you did a cycle of Tessa Ipah, then took a blood test to check your markers, then you did a cycle of just Ipah alone and then followed that with a blood test. Like,
1:00:16Speaker 3you know, you're on top of it. You're also basically you're just you said, like, I'm actually I'm great right now. Right? Already have my hormones optimized. I'm at my goal weight, and I'm a low body fat percentage.
1:00:26Speaker 3Stop. Alto.
1:00:28Speaker 3No mas. You just currently cycle You answered it. Mitochondrial peptides throughout the year. The retina seems to be working. Here's what I would say though about those blood test markers on the test. Like,
1:00:38Speaker 3These are so sensitive to the timing
1:00:41Speaker 3of your use before the blood test.
1:00:44Speaker 3So
1:00:45Speaker 3really sensitive. Like, there's a reason that anything that you have to do daily, that means it gets in you and out of you really fast. So hours matter on that blood test marker. So if
1:00:56Speaker 3you did, and also your whole cycle of it doesn't really mean anything on your blood test marker, right? What matters is like the 1 injection you did right before it and how many hours before the blood test you did it. So
1:01:08Speaker 3my
1:01:09Speaker 3like, DES, the IGF-1DS,
1:01:11Speaker 3LR3 is like a long is a long acting. DES is stupid. It's short acting.
1:01:18Speaker 3If I was you, I would do HGH.
1:01:21Speaker 3I do HGH. It's probably safer than any of the IGF ones. It's obviously been studied and
1:01:26Speaker 3been around longer. Why not you for women? It's probably better. It's easy. Also, because it's not only gonna help build muscle, but it's gonna help
1:01:34Speaker 3take care of wrinkles. Right? It's gonna do all these other, like, growth things besides just grow muscles,
1:01:39Speaker 3whereas the,
1:01:41Speaker 3IGF-one
1:01:42Speaker 3will not do, just growing muscle.
1:01:45Speaker 3So plus you're of age, you know, take a low dose, take 1 IU a day,
1:01:51Speaker 3then run it. And I bet it will make you really happy. It takes a little while. It takes a little while. Women a little quicker. You already fit. I could just tell you just seem like you're on it.
1:02:01Speaker 2Yeah. 1 IU of HGH
1:02:04Speaker 2is awesome for women. 2 IU for men. I don't think many need to go above that. I tried. I didn't like it. It was holding water. Tried though. Right?
1:02:13Speaker 2AOD and Tesofen for women. I've said it 1000000 times, so you could try that, but you already answered your question. You said you feel great and you're on your go away. Stop.
1:02:20Speaker 2Right? Because you're not always going be there. You're going to lose that sweet spot. What to do more, you know how it is. Yeah. I'm just saying like, you're good. So you'd like, you're at where you need to be. So chill for a bit because you don't stay in that sweet spot.
1:02:31Speaker 2Run it while you're there.
1:02:34Speaker 2But yeah, the HGH 1 IU will be the best of all of the security guards.
1:02:39Speaker 2Yep. Oh,
1:02:41Speaker 3that's great. Will needs to do some work.
1:02:44Speaker 3Guys like everything that we talk about is there including,
1:02:47Speaker 3well, these videos,
1:02:49Speaker 3anytime that we ever do a profile, 1 peptide,
1:02:52Speaker 3on the screen, it's that whole presentation
1:02:54Speaker 3is there. Anything we talk about, there are
1:02:58Speaker 3protocols and sourcing information right there on school. Yeah. A lot of people are looking. DMS DMS
1:03:04Speaker 3if you need to, if you want to, but
1:03:07Speaker 3there's
1:03:08Speaker 3even stacks
1:03:10Speaker 3of different peptides on school,
1:03:12Speaker 3like 4 different things.
1:03:14Speaker 3You know? The muscle, like, muscle building stack,
1:03:17Speaker 3acute injury stack.
1:03:19Speaker 3Oh, you know what the other other guy? PT-one 41. Sorry, dude. Yeah.
1:03:24Speaker 3Keep using the PT, use the PT-one hundred 41. It's awesome. It
1:03:28Speaker 2works. Yeah. It does. It works. All right. So yeah, coaching call Monday, we'll be dropping that. Join it,
1:03:35Speaker 2if you're interested in, that stuff. And other than that, we'll catch you next round later.