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0:54Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denver across the way like always my buddy William T. What's going on, man? We're busy. Yeah. I feel a little rushed, but we're gonna kick some butt on this podcast today.
1:09Speaker 2That's what we do.
1:12Speaker 2Life We, is in full swing, man. We got, like always, we are doing big shit. I only hang out with people that do big shit. I love it.
1:20Speaker 2Let's talk about some of that a little bit before we get into the nuts and bolts of what we're gonna this is the Q and
1:26Speaker 2episode, but, we, we're dropping our coaching,
1:29Speaker 2Warrior Makers coaching. So we, want to talk about that briefly just because a lot of people have asked for it and, that's kind of the beginning of this company. Will and I have both
1:39Speaker 2been fitness trainers and coaches, and that's kind of the start of what we've done. And it's done us well and a lot of people have asked, so we are doing that. Now,
1:49Speaker 2anything we do, we try to do well here. So we did start it a while back, but we were just busy and now it's time to let it go. So we did hire a coach that's going to help us with that.
1:57Speaker 2And it's going to be on nutrition, obviously,
2:00Speaker 2diets, different workouts,
2:03Speaker 2obviously,
2:04Speaker 2accountability,
2:05Speaker 2that stuff's needed.
2:06Speaker 2For that. There's going to be some branding talk. There's going to be some business talk. We're getting you in shape. That's
2:13Speaker 2the objective. But
2:15Speaker 2you know how we talk in this podcast? We're sober, we do big shit. We expect a lot from ourselves. We expect a lot of people from who we hang out with. So we're going to push you, push you to get in shape. We're going to push you to better your life. And that's what it's going to be.
2:30Speaker 2A little bit about that is how we're going to start it is we're going to have a Zoom call on Monday. This podcast will drop tomorrow, so you will hear this.
2:39Speaker 2And it's going to be open to everybody. We will be putting it out on all of our outlets,
2:43Speaker 2so you will be able to find the link easy. We'll make it easy for you.
2:47Speaker 2And it's really just to talk about it. You're going to meet the coach that we've,
2:50Speaker 2have brought on a new Warrior Maker employee.
2:53Speaker 2He's awesome. I trained with him a lot.
2:56Speaker 2I think he's, he's, you know, he's a, he's a man of God, which is important for us. He's a, he's a sober guy, which that's not always
3:03Speaker 2not a must, but it's just, we like sober people. And
3:06Speaker 2we
3:07Speaker 2make, we want to do, we want to help people get healthy. That's the objective of this whole thing. That's why it started. I'm
3:14Speaker 2looking forward to it. We're going to do a zoom call a week and talk about a lot of different stuff on each zoom call. And so we got a lot of stuff coming. So if you are interested in that,
3:25Speaker 2obviously there will be some peptide talk and supplement talk and all that stuff because all of that stuff goes along with that stuff.
3:33Speaker 2So that's, what's going to be happening. So if you're curious about that and want to get some more information, join the zoom call.
3:39Speaker 2I don't know how many people will join. I have no clue.
3:43Speaker 2I'll stay on until every question is answered. Fair enough.
3:47Speaker 3Anything you want add on that? Who's the name of
3:51Speaker 3kind of our main trainer, right? We have worked with him and built, well, going for a lot of, he's been doing this for a long time. So he has programs
3:59Speaker 3and a proven track record of getting people in shape and having like well rounded programs. So the big part is
4:05Speaker 3it's gonna be these, these We have designed different
4:09Speaker 3programs for
4:11Speaker 3different folks. Right?
4:13Speaker 3It's online.
4:14Speaker 3I mean, basically it's, we're not, you don't have to be live here,
4:18Speaker 3here to participate, right? The whole point is online coaching and the biggest thing, it's a well rounded approach. So yes, nutrition,
4:25Speaker 3workouts, actually like workout videos, workouts, custom to you,
4:29Speaker 0supplementation,
4:32Speaker 3you know, consultations
4:34Speaker 3to go over just make sure that everything
4:37Speaker 3is aligned to get you in the fast in the best shape as fast as possible.
4:42Speaker 3And the guy's good and
4:45Speaker 3you will get in shape as long as you just simply
4:48Speaker 2do what he says and follow through. Get in shape, but like, we want to go further than that, man. We want to build better people. Like, you know, we're men, so we want to build better men. You know, if you see the content we put out in different categories,
4:59Speaker 2we want to bring back some old school, like
5:02Speaker 2morality and like, you know, like treat your wife well and like raise your son to be strong, like kid of integrity.
5:09Speaker 2Like, we're going to talk about that stuff because, and
5:12Speaker 2you guys, if you're on school,
5:14Speaker 2look at the camaraderie on that. Want to, we want to compound that. We want to continue to build a warrior maker brand and people that
5:22Speaker 2are aligned with what we just talked about. And like, I love it. I
5:27Speaker 2love getting on those types of Zoom calls
5:29Speaker 2because it's usually people that are positive and like we want to talk about wins and triumphs and what are you struggling with? How do we fix it? So it's gonna be dope. I'm excited.
5:38Speaker 2So yeah, we're going to do that on Monday. So we'll be dropping a bunch of different stuff. So just be prepared for that. Most of you probably know, if you don't, our YouTube got taken down and that sucks because a lot of time was spent to cultivate it. It was almost 100,000 subscribers,
5:55Speaker 2which on YouTube is difficult and it just was abruptly taken down. And
6:00Speaker 2it doesn't look like we're going to get it back. We put it back up and it was taken down again.
6:05Speaker 2So we did start a rumble. I am not a big rumble guy myself,
6:09Speaker 2but I will learn to be.
6:11Speaker 2And that's
6:12Speaker 2where we're at. Apparently,
6:13Speaker 2rumble is a place where free speech lives.
6:17Speaker 2It is what it is. It is what it is. We do have a lot of outlets. We still have school. We have, you know, our Instagram stuff. We're going to be adding some stuff too. As
6:25Speaker 2always,
6:26Speaker 2we've done a lot of research and stuff. We're trying to like zigzag around some of these laws and stuff that I don't even think anybody knows what the laws are. They're gray. We
6:35Speaker 2got, you know, we're on Spotify.
6:37Speaker 2If, you know, if you do listen to this on, you were on YouTube and you found it, it's on Spotify, which is the biggest 1 that we use anyway. And Apple also,
6:46Speaker 2I mean, those are the 2 main podcasts anyway.
6:49Speaker 3YouTube was just like overflow. And by the way, Spotify has videos. It's not just listening. Yeah. I didn't know that for a long time. I still think that 0.5 of the people don't know that. Like if you're listening to this, by the way, you can actually make click a few more things and,
7:03Speaker 3watch this,
7:04Speaker 3which is how this was meant. This
7:07Speaker 2was meant to be is a, is a watched show. Watch my beard become more gray and gray. I've looked at some older content, which is not even that long ago, I'm like, my beard was a lot more brown.
7:17Speaker 2It's turning gray. I'm turning 49. Alright, I'm 49, so I guess it is what it is. Yeah.
7:23Speaker 23rd thing we want to talk about, we'll never talk about this morning. So I said, let's just ask the people to ask the people to listen. He
7:30Speaker 2was thinking that we might, Q and A episode might be getting a little stale. I don't think so because I read a lot more of the comments, but I'm not you. So let's
7:41Speaker 2ask you, do you like this platform on this? We do 2. A lot of times it's
7:47Speaker 2Q and A, we do once a week and then we do either a guest or we break down a couple of compounds.
7:52Speaker 2So do you want us to do something and try to revamp the Q and A? Do you like the Q and A, how we just sit down and kind of go over your questions?
8:00Speaker 3Let us know in the comments if what you want. If we have a guest, which I think we're doing this week. So if we have a guest, would you like us to tell you about the guest beforehand so then you can write in questions?
8:13Speaker 3Yeah. I believe we are do we have done that. So,
8:17Speaker 3Danny, I believe,
8:19Speaker 3is going to talk to us all about water.
8:22Speaker 2How do you say it wrong? Caggen, Kangen. Kangen.
8:25Speaker 3A Kangen. N G E N.
8:28Speaker 2Lot of stuff about water. Well, like, again, a lot of people don't even know that like, if you're drinking just typical water, you're not really like hydrating yourself. You need to add Celtic salt water or something like that. If you're peeing a lot, it just means you're not absorbing it. Like, that's why I'm always drinking salt water. It's not, you get used to it. It doesn't bug me anymore versus kind,
8:46Speaker 2but that's why I do it because I want to be hydrated. You, when you wake up, you need to hydrate. Need it right when you wake up, you need to have a bunch of water. So add some salt water to it. But anyway, she's going to tell us, I'm excited.
8:58Speaker 2We love having these guests. I hope that you guys do too, you know, the peptide podcast, but like man, health is not just peptides. It's like, it's a lot of different stuff. Like,
9:09Speaker 2we've learned so much. I've just loved it. I there's so much that I've learned on just doing this podcast.
9:15Speaker 2And I'm sure you have too.
9:16Speaker 2Yeah, we can maybe have you guys write in, give you guys a list because now we're starting to plan out, you know, different, you know, actually about a month and 2 out, so it's going well.
9:26Speaker 2So that's the last thing, obviously school,
9:29Speaker 2school's popping, you guys are loving it. That's awesome. We get a lot of comments on that. So yeah, if you're listening to this and you're not on our school platform,
9:39Speaker 2we post a lot of stuff on there. You just have to look at classroom.
9:44Speaker 2There's tons of free information,
9:46Speaker 2that a lot of people don't find because they don't look just cake classroom and it's all free.
9:51Speaker 3Right there. Tons of stuff there. Tons.
9:54Speaker 3School, go to classrooms. 1st, it opens you up to the social media feed. Which people love. And then there's some menu items there at the top and then hit classroom and you will and poke around in there. Go see what see what there is to learn. Lots of stuff. Right? Different links to different websites. Right?
10:09Speaker 3Sourcing recommendations.
10:11Speaker 3Right? That's kind of 1 of the
10:13Speaker 3most important things I find is yes. How tos and then sourcing recommendations.
10:18Speaker 2Yeah. It's there. Also, if you have some people that are, you think would be a good guest, you know, how generally most people, some of them are friends and some of them were finding on
10:28Speaker 2Instagram because obviously their algorithm picks up, you know, what we're into. But, man, there's some cool guests coming on. I'm excited to kind of sit down with some of them because I'm ready to learn a lot about what they talk about, a lot of different doctors and stuff. So it's gonna be cool. All right. Good stuff. All right. We're ready for Q and A.
10:45Speaker 3Number
10:46Speaker 31. Hey guys, this is a question from my mom. She's 68, having surgery to repair bone spurs,
10:51Speaker 3around her Achilles tendon. The surgeon says recovery will take 1 year. They're going to detach her tendon to clean the area and reattach. My mom is very receptive to help from peptides.
11:02Speaker 3I'd like to help her by giving her high doses of BPC and TB-five hundred stack as she recovers. I've helped her since,
11:09Speaker 3I've helped her since being sedentary
11:12Speaker 3to lose her
11:14Speaker 3weight by giving her 2 mgs of Retta weekly. She's down 21 pounds, pounds, trying to help her get weight down from 2 24 starting to now 2 0 4.
11:22Speaker 3Her surgery is scheduled in a month outside of giving her 2 MIGS Wolverine daily after surgery. Any recommendations? Thank you so much for all you guys do. So,
11:31Speaker 3I mean, she's almost 70 years old and
11:34Speaker 3probably hurts her to get up and move around because or else why would you be having the surgery?
11:40Speaker 3So that's pretty damn good for, like, losing 20 pounds. And my guess is she's, like you said, sedentary.
11:47Speaker 3Good for you. Anything else?
11:50Speaker 3Absolutely do the Reddit. I mean, it sounds like you already know the Wolverine,
11:54Speaker 3the Wolverine stack.
11:57Speaker 3I don't know. You know, I would give her some just general health, especially at her age. I think that some of these mitochondrial peptides will be really good for her. A general
12:06Speaker 3make her feel better, like NAD plus,
12:08Speaker 3MOTS-three, SS-thirty 1,
12:11Speaker 3glutathione.
12:14Speaker 3That's what comes to mind right now.
12:16Speaker 3B12, like methylcobalamin,
12:19Speaker 3which is the methylated form of B12. And
12:23Speaker 21 I don't know, JD, what you got? Well, I mean, you can go up on the red eye if it's quick. She's going be going in for a month. That's going to be the fastest way to get her to lose a little bit more weight so that you could do 3 or 4 megs. I'm not saying you should, I'm saying you can,
12:36Speaker 2that's going to be the fastest way. I mean, in regards to the healing, I want to focus on the healing of
12:41Speaker 2her
12:42Speaker 2Achilles.
12:44Speaker 2That sounds, that sucks. That sounds so you want to definitely run that 3 weeks up in my opinion
12:50Speaker 2to it. Let's start getting that like saturated and let's start getting that compound in her. And you say high dose, you can actually, if you can afford it, you can go higher. I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't, then you can
13:02Speaker 2then more than 2 megs, you know? So that's another option, but I would say 3 weeks before
13:08Speaker 2start less than that and then run it after and you can do more if you can afford it to Migs, if you wanted, she can handle it. Another option is what I did after I had my surgery. And I
13:20Speaker 2didn't know about it until somebody suggested, so I started doing a reading about it, which was hyperbarics.
13:25Speaker 2Hyperbaric will expedite the healing. I
13:28Speaker 2think it worked for me. I mean, I took a lot of the Wolverine and I got in a hyperbaric for 7 days in a row and I was in the gym in 2 weeks.
13:36Speaker 2And I was expecting your mom to be back in 2 weeks because her surgery sounds a little bit more gnarly than mine.
13:42Speaker 2But these are things that can definitely help and you definitely want to get her moving. You know, I know that's going to suck for her, but after the surgery, you just need to move, get that blood flow. I know it's going to suck, but I moved. I did not allow myself to, I had like 1 day I think, and then like I was moving. I
13:59Speaker 3had an objective to get better. She'll be, I mean, that foot will be immobilized. It'll be in a cast or a walking boot. And so you don't, you need some blood flow. Right? You need blood flow. My guess is with I've had a I've had surgery on my feet 3 times, I think. I think I have 2 pins in 1 foot and pin the other foot.
14:17Speaker 3You'll
14:18Speaker 3some moving around. I mean, let her recover for a few for a few days. She's older. It's gonna take longer to recover.
14:24Speaker 3If you get her moving, just don't be don't do it for long periods of time. I guarantee you she's gonna need to lay down and elevate that foot. Cause gravity is going to be pulling all that blood down and it's going to be pulsing, pulsing. But yeah, your goal should be to get her up and mean, hell, she can sit in a chair and lift weights with bands,
14:43Speaker 3right? That's resistance training and she absolutely should. Yeah.
14:47Speaker 2But they have traveling hyperbaric, so if I'm
14:50Speaker 2telling you, it will help a little bit, so for sure. All right. I thank you both for creating this space and sharing your valuable experience with peptides. I am 41 year old woman. I love weights and heavy loads.
15:02Speaker 2I'm currently
15:04Speaker 2trying to gain as much muscle as possible for which I'm eating enough protein and carbs. This is my 2nd month using CJC-1MQ-1MQ
15:13Speaker 2and I just added SS-thirty 1. I like
15:16Speaker 2every woman, I want to keep my abdomen as flat as possible. Would you recommend changing CJC for Tessa?
15:23Speaker 2If so,
15:24Speaker 2what would be the recommended
15:26Speaker 2dose? I'm also thinking of changing SS-31
15:30Speaker 2for MOTS-3.033
15:31Speaker 2thoughts on that. You're very much. All right. Thank you very much. God bless you both. Awesome. It's good stuff. I think we're both going to say yes. Yeah.
15:38Speaker 2Thoughts are yes, you should. I'm going to tell you this,
15:42Speaker 2obviously for what we do for a living, we talk about this constantly. We,
15:47Speaker 2we, all our friends are talking about this constantly. And I'm going to tell you more and more and more and more and people I'm hearing have bad reactions to CJC.
15:56Speaker 2All the time. And, I'm not trying to scare you, but
15:59Speaker 2with that being said, and just Tesamorelin,
16:01Speaker 2especially for women, in my opinion, is so much better for that reason. Those 2 reasons alone, I would definitely do that. So I think you're gonna like it a lot better. But yeah, I'm even blown away by how many people are having responses towards CJC and really bad ones. Really, really bad histamine responses. When some people go in the hospital and stuff like that. And I'm not trying to scare anybody from using it. I'm just letting you know, we hear a lot about them. Yeah.
16:24Speaker 3So pretty curious. What would you say on the dosage? So I would say for what kind of a Tesamorelin start at,
16:31Speaker 3don't, so there will be a point where your body starts retaining water. Okay?
16:37Speaker 0Everybody
16:38Speaker 3is different, especially women. That point is probably a little bit lower dose. And when you reach that point,
16:45Speaker 3that's basically your highest dose that you can do without having side effects. Now you can try now if you just go, so where does it range? I'd probably feel safe starting at 500 micrograms
16:57Speaker 3daily.
16:58Speaker 3The clinical trials and the actual FDA approvals for up to 2 mg daily.
17:04Speaker 3So, but I'd start at, I'd start at 500 micrograms,
17:08Speaker 3do that for a couple of weeks, stabilize, make sure that you're not retaining any water, and then bump up in increments of 2 50 micrograms. And
17:16Speaker 3do if you bump up, right, do that for 2 weeks. Right? 1 way to
17:21Speaker 3get faster water retention is to bump up really fast. So I wouldn't go from 500 to 1000. I'd go, especially as 1 in 500 to 2 52
17:29Speaker 3weeks, then another 2 50. And if you do start retaining water, great, just lower it back down to the last level and your body should normalize and you'll be just fine. Yeah.
17:38Speaker 3There's
17:39Speaker 3that's the thought. Now, while I'm talking, SS-thirty 1,
17:42Speaker 3hell yeah. And I've always
17:45Speaker 3said high doses is the way it'd go and I still believe that even higher doses. JD and I are both taking, I'm taking 15 mg daily right now. And
17:54Speaker 3my plan to go up to, to, I don't know, probably to 20, 25. Let's see what happens. But
18:00Speaker 3I would stick with your SS-thirty 1 for a month and I would run it. I would, I would do at least 5 mg. That's what I've always said. And for, even though I'm doing 15, I'm a big guy and maybe I can, and I'm a, and I'm a man, but,
18:14Speaker 3that just means I'm a, I have a bigger frame and I can tolerate things more. Okay.
18:35Speaker 3There's a lot more to do, but there it is. That's my dose. I think MOTS-3.00 is best at 1000000 daily. There's protocols out there saying like 5 mg once a week.
18:45Speaker 3Cool.
18:46Speaker 3I noticed when people do that, they don't feel very good. Like almost like hypertensive. Like it gives you just like too much energy. Like you just,
18:53Speaker 3you took too much pre workout and now you can, you can't go work out that feeling. Yeah.
18:59Speaker 3Or you did cocaine and you don't have any left,
19:02Speaker 0even worse. So
19:05Speaker 2don't you do that? That's what I got for you. Yeah, that's perfect. I think the only thing that you can add is that like, if you wanted to add like an AOD in for women, I think it does amazing.
19:15Speaker 2The Tesa Ipam
19:17Speaker 2AOD mix for women, I think just really transforms their body. Because I just, most women, man, they just don't need a whole lot, you know? So you can add that in. I think it'll work well. Okay. I did want to actually want to say like you could, so I know, Hey, your goal is to gain as much muscle as you possibly can, right?
19:33Speaker 3While keeping your stomach flat. I still think you can take Retta at a small dose. So the only reason that Retta is going to conflict with muscle gain is if you're not, if it's restricting you from eating
19:44Speaker 3enough
19:45Speaker 3protein. Okay? Other than that, if you're able with Retta, that's the beauty of it is like, still can't eat. Now, if you take high doses of Retta, yeah, hell yeah. It's going to cut down your appetite, but something
19:55Speaker 3like
19:56Speaker 30.5 a milligram twice a week, right, will keep your body burning fat, keep your stomach lean,
20:01Speaker 3help with nutrient I mean, the list kind of goes on with Retta, but you can take a low dose to help supplement and still maintain your same appetite. And as long as you're getting the calories in,
20:14Speaker 2great, it's not impeding your muscle growth. And for anybody that thinks that they can't get 1 g of protein per body weight, that's silly because if you take some Greek yogurt,
20:25Speaker 2you know, and then put 2 scoops of protein and mix it up and maybe put some blueberries in it or something, I mean, you got like 50 plus,
20:32Speaker 2maybe more depending on how much Greek yogurt you use and how much protein
20:36Speaker 2you know is in your, what you get, how many grams are in that. But it's so easy, especially if you're a small gal. You eat that twice. I'm not saying you should have Greek yogurt.
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21:44Speaker 2Every day all day, but, like, it's really easy to get that. Like so
21:48Speaker 3Now I would argue, I would argue you're right. And especially as a small gal, like you can do, you can do- 50 grams of protein right now.
21:56Speaker 3I'm under the belief that people that our bodies can only process a certain amount of protein. So there is something like called gluconeogenesis
22:04Speaker 3where when our body take if you were to eat a 150 grams of protein, whack, right now, your body would go, wow, there's so much protein. I'm not gonna use all of this, and it will
22:13Speaker 3convert that into sugar, into glucose.
22:17Speaker 3So that's a proven scientific principle.
22:19Speaker 3So but that's at more I still think I, as a grown man, you can take about 50 of protein every 2 hours. The rest of it is just gonna be pooped out and doesn't count. So as a woman, I'd be aiming for
22:31Speaker 330
22:32Speaker 3grams maybe, and that's just general 30 grams per
22:37Speaker 3meal, but basically 2 hours. Like, the best way I think to gain the most amount of muscle would be to have a syringe full of protein, right? And then inject myself every 2 hours, 20
22:48Speaker 3fourseven. Then that would maximize
22:50Speaker 3my protein intake.
22:52Speaker 3So real world example, right? You gotta fit life in there, but that's about it. And use protein powder to your benefit, but you still better eat food. Yeah, easy peasy. But it makes it easier when you can just take a shake with 30, 40 g of protein. Yeah, make your each meal work each meal around your protein. Yeah.
23:10Speaker 3And protein post workout 100%
23:13Speaker 3and right before bed, lean protein right before bed. You need the building materials right before you go to sleep because that's when we're asleep, that's what our body does most of that muscle building.
23:23Speaker 3Hey,
23:24Speaker 3love y'all's podcast. I'm 18 years old, 5 foot tall, 96 pounds. I've been introduced to the peptides because my mom is a holistic doctor and has been using them to help her patients. Good for her. Good job, mom.
23:37Speaker 3I begged to be put on Adderall when I was 14
23:40Speaker 3for ADHD,
23:41Speaker 3and my mom didn't want me to, but she eventually gave in. I have been at the lowest possible dose since, but I want to be done with it. And I've been struggling to get off of it. Sleeping 16 hours, depression. Yep. I've been on NAD and glutathione since February for energy, and I'm wondering what other peps can help me, help me that won't change my appetite.
24:02Speaker 3I tried MOTS C for a few months too, but my body fat went to 15%
24:07Speaker 3and that's a bit low for me. Oh, so when you say don't change your appetite,
24:12Speaker 3you mean it's, you don't want something that's gonna cut your appetite?
24:16Speaker 3Anyway, here's I have some plans for you. Tesofensine.
24:19Speaker 3So,
24:21Speaker 3let me take out the fact that you're 18 and I'm gonna answer this.
24:26Speaker 3Like, I guess that's not necessarily bad, but I don't know. I think young people But coming off drugs, yeah, I think you should get off the damn Adderall ASAP.
24:35Speaker 3Tesofensine is freaking awesome. It is a really good I mean, even Paul had in their, in his training
24:41Speaker 3tells mentions this to people. So Tesofensine
24:44Speaker 3will give you energy and like decrease your depression.
24:49Speaker 3And JD doesn't really notice a appetite
24:52Speaker 3killing, but sometimes
24:54Speaker 3I notice it not wanting not making me want to eat sweets. So that's like kind of a good thing in anybody's-
25:00Speaker 3That's awesome. I wish I had that. Yeah. So Tesofensine,
25:03Speaker 3C Max.
25:05Speaker 3So C Max, Selank is the 1 that is an anxiolytic that makes you calm. C Max is the 1 that gives you energy,
25:12Speaker 3just neurological
25:14Speaker 3energy. So Semax,
25:16Speaker 3Tesofensine,
25:18Speaker 3you know, you could try Dihexa. Some people definitely feel energized and a bit happier.
25:24Speaker 3I don't think that taking
25:28Speaker 3what's that limitless pill? Oh, modafinil. I don't think modafinil is a good No. You're just trading
25:34Speaker 3you're just kind of trading drugs at that point. But,
25:38Speaker 3but I don't know. I mean, if you take that for a controlled
25:41Speaker 3amount of time to get off the Adderall and then you get off of the modafinil,
25:45Speaker 3if you're able to do that, I'm never able to do that. Although modafinil,
25:49Speaker 3don't get addicted to. So,
25:53Speaker 3those are my thoughts. I
25:55Speaker 2was curious how you're going to answer that 1. It's a, I think the 18 year old
26:00Speaker 2throws us both off. So young to us now.
26:05Speaker 2So I wasn't going to even really answer it much. I think you said, set a great team actually along because they're perfect. I'm going to go at it from a different angle because we'll answered it. If you want that type of help from a peptide advice, that's perfect.
26:18Speaker 2Yeah. That, and if there's any parents listening to this,
26:22Speaker 2it sucks. I know it like these
26:25Speaker 2types of drugs, Adderall and things like this, these are narcotics and their problems. And I don't think they're going to be the answers, you know? And I'm not judging this parent, that's not what I'm talking about, but it's a sucks to get off this stuff. It really does, you know? And
26:40Speaker 2to the person that wrote into this, I
26:43Speaker 2feel that you can really connect and get off of that stuff when you like start helping other people and doing for other people and getting out of yourself.
26:51Speaker 2And I know that might sound a little woo woo, but I really believe God blesses you when you do that because getting off narcotics, we've been there, it sucks.
27:00Speaker 2And it's not even necessarily narcotics if you're going through something difficult. My daughter went through some stuff in high school that was difficult. And I'd always say, Taylor, call your mom and tell her how much you love her and tell her why. And she's like, And I'm like, because you're not thinking of you. You know what I mean? And these are just some things that you can start to cultivate in your own life that,
27:18Speaker 2you know, we don't want you to always think that you need to take something, you know, you're 18 and like, this is a peptide podcast, but we really want to, I know, I know I can speak for will on this. I don't speak for him often, but I know I can speak for will on this. When we say, we don't think people need to take everything in perpetuity. This is a peptide podcast, but like, we want you to get the base and the base is you feeling great without anything, especially at 18. You know, you don't really necessarily need peptides.
27:43Speaker 2Now, if it's you getting on like an antidepressant
27:47Speaker 2or C Max or Selank, without a doubt, get on the C
27:51Speaker 2LONC or C Max.
27:53Speaker 2But
27:54Speaker 2I really believe that God knows what he's doing. And if you can just put in effort to
28:01Speaker 2find your sweet spot in your soul, if that makes any sense,
28:06Speaker 2you'll have a lot of time to take peptides. I hope that makes some sense,
28:11Speaker 2because you can get off the Adderall. You should get off the Adderall
28:16Speaker 2and,
28:17Speaker 3start trying to enjoy life. I have found the most joy when I'm helping other people. Hope that helps. And the final thing is you will not find a way to get off of this pain, pain free.
28:29Speaker 3Okay. So you're waiting to find the answer where you get to stop and you get to stop.
28:35Speaker 3Like, there is no depression whatsoever and no tiredness. Just like, I just need that seamless magic pill that makes me perfectly get off. It's
28:43Speaker 3not going to happen. So
28:45Speaker 3I always, every time I had to detox, you know, it was just always amazed me that
28:50Speaker 3and coming off opiates is a different story, but,
28:53Speaker 3like, man, it's like 4 or 5 days out of, from out of my life, my entire life. And I'm just still on, and I just cannot
29:02Speaker 3do that, which blew my mind. Like for this Adderall, you've been on it for a little while and I get it. It's tough, but just for the rest of your life for happiness, right? You just gotta be a little bit miserable for
29:13Speaker 3a day, maybe 2 days maybe. Right?
29:16Speaker 3So just kind of know that you're not looking for a pain free answer
29:20Speaker 3regardless of what LL-1T you take and nothing's going to really be fully pain free.
29:25Speaker 3I, I, yes, I agree with everything. JD said more good stuff. All right. Yes.
29:31Speaker 2All right. Hi guys. I recently found your podcast and I'm hooked. I'm 32 year old female who lost 60 pounds 0.5 naturally
29:39Speaker 2and the rest with Tirzepatide.
29:41Speaker 2Good for you. And it's completely changed my life. I had back surgery 7 years ago and I've noticed Tirzepatide
29:47Speaker 2seems to really help with my inflammation.
29:50Speaker 2I'm currently training for 2nd Hyrox race,
29:54Speaker 2and my goal is to build more lean muscle. I'm, finishing my last bottle of Tirzepatide,
30:00Speaker 2and I've been considering Retrutide,
30:02Speaker 2but I'm a little intimidated by all the different peptides out there and want to keep things simple. Is there anything you'd
30:09Speaker 2recommend that, could help with inflammation
30:12Speaker 2while supporting those goals? Also the best way to transition from being Entrezepatide
30:18Speaker 2to Retta.
30:19Speaker 2Thanks. Thank you guys for your awesome. That's awesome. Yo. Do you know what HYROX is? No.
30:25Speaker 3It is.
30:26Speaker 3It is a fitness racing competition,
30:29Speaker 3and here are the events apparently.
30:32Speaker 3Correct. I'm sorry if, if these chains, like, you know, CrossFit is, like, just brand new shit, which is kinda why it's cool. But number 1, SKIERG,
30:39Speaker 3K. Thousand meters on the ski machine. That's like, you know, the these things that pull down. Yeah. Sled
30:45Speaker 3push, 50 meters. Wow. Sled pull, 50 meters. Burpee broad jumps, 80 meters. Rowing, thousand meters on the rowing machine. Farmers carry 200 meters, carrying kettlebells, sandbag lunches, a 100 meters walk. That one's tough. A 100 meters walking lunges with sandbags on your shoulders. Wow. Wall balls, a 100 reps throwing a medicine ball to a target. Dang. There you go. That sounds gnarly. Yeah, it does. So good for you. 0 Gosh, I would expect that to lose a loot. Like in the training, you would be losing a crazy amount of weight.
31:15Speaker 2You need to make sure you're eating girl. Like, you're going to do all that stuff. But that's a lot. So you need to make sure you've been eating your
31:22Speaker 2protein for sure.
31:24Speaker 2I mean, we're going to both say you should switch to Retatrutide.
31:27Speaker 2Do you need it? You didn't really say how much you need to lose.
31:30Speaker 2Again,
31:33Speaker 2nothing needs to be in perpetuity.
31:34Speaker 2Retatrutide
31:37Speaker 2without a doubt is better than tirzepatide. Some
31:39Speaker 2people will disagree because they like to not have hunger. You should have hunger and you should eat, especially you, you need to eat.
31:46Speaker 2You need to be eating and you need to, if if the tirzepatide could actually make you be eating not enough,
31:52Speaker 2because that actually kind of blocks the hunger a bit more.
31:56Speaker 2So, and if to answer your question in regards to the inflammation, to me is an easy 1. It would be TA-one, MEMS and Alpha-one, because that's going to bring down your inflammation.
32:06Speaker 2It's really,
32:07Speaker 2talked about the most for its immunity,
32:11Speaker 2but it's the best for inflammation.
32:13Speaker 2So you can definitely add that. And in regards to the Retrutide, if you're going to run a GLP-one, absolutely, you should change to,
32:21Speaker 2that.
32:22Speaker 2Dosage, do you want to take that part? Yeah, sure.
32:25Speaker 3Let me finish my, do my recommendation on so you, if it were me and I'm doing all this stuff and competing and you've done it a few times, like, I would need BPC and TB-five hundred Sure. Duh. To heal my joints,
32:37Speaker 3and everything else. So Yeah. Yeah. That just might help you a ton. Yeah. Think about that. SLU-three 32 is going to really help with nutrient partitioning, make sure the right nutrients are going right to the right places and endurance.
32:51Speaker 3So it's a great, it's a great 1 to take intra competition.
32:56Speaker 3And then, yeah, he's right. Like your goal is to build as much muscle as possible. Then, yeah, get the hell off the tirzepatide because for sure
33:03Speaker 3you built some tolerance to it by now, but it's still,
33:08Speaker 3I get that inflammation thing, but Thymosin Alpha, I would use for the inflammation
33:13Speaker 3and I would a 100% switch to Retta. You may
33:16Speaker 3have a little bit more hunger. You probably will have a little bit more hunger, but cool,
33:21Speaker 0great. Use it to,
33:24Speaker 3use it to your benefit and eat good, healthy protein
33:27Speaker 3with that extra hunger. Now the wean off period is so basically the dosings are based are pretty
33:35Speaker 3much exactly the same.
33:38Speaker 3I always like to play things conservatively, so I don't know if she tells us what dose she's at in Tirzepatide.
33:44Speaker 3Let's imagine you're at 5 mg a week Tirzepatide,
33:47Speaker 3and I would hope that you're doing it 2 to 3 times a week, just because we found that that's more comfortable and works better. If you're at 5 megs of Tirzepatide,
33:55Speaker 3I would probably,
33:56Speaker 3I don't even, I think I would pull the band aid off. I would go, I would pull 5 and I would start with 3.
34:02Speaker 3That's what was gonna say. Let's start with 3, see feel. How then, you know, I would, you could bump up, but so Reta takes a little bit longer. I'd almost say like 2 weeks to really like start to feel
34:15Speaker 3its effect. So a lot of people, if they take it for 1 week and then they bump up,
34:19Speaker 3that was too early of a bump up. Then that week, that 3rd week they go, oh shit, now it's too much. So I would go in 2 week intervals before you make decisions to bump back up. And I would do it twice a week, 2 times a week, 2 to 3 times a week. It's up to you. I've, you know, it's up to you.
34:37Speaker 3And
34:39Speaker 3but I also would probably max out about 5 mg of Retta. I'd start with 3 and I would try to stay there. Hopefully, you can just stay at 3.
34:46Speaker 3Really help us if you told us how much weight you need to lose. Yes. Now the SLU-3P, here's the thing. I would I know that there is there's 100 mg SLU-3P out there for you and your competition.
34:56Speaker 3I would if I was you, I'd be taking the 1000
34:59Speaker 3microgram,
35:00Speaker 3which is 1 mg
35:02Speaker 3sublingual
35:03Speaker 3tablets.
35:04Speaker 3Okay?
35:06Speaker 3And, school
35:07Speaker 3has sourcing information
35:10Speaker 3and full bios of everything that we talk about. So you want to know what the written
35:16Speaker 3literature is on anything we talk about? It's there for you.
35:21Speaker 0All right, cool. Yeah. I
35:23Speaker 3think, no, I am.
35:24Speaker 3Love and Logan listened to your show daily on repeat.
35:29Speaker 3Up the awesome info. Others have asked this question before in your Q and A, but in my opinion, it really wasn't answered to how they meant it. Okay? So I'm going to try because I have the same question. Wolverine equal parts BPC-one hundred 57 TB-four.
35:41Speaker 3When drawing a dose, what guarantees me that exact equal parts of each compound end up in the syringe?
35:48Speaker 3I have a hard time believing that 2 separate chains of amino acids
35:52Speaker 3mix perfectly together
35:54Speaker 3and you get exact equal parts like mixing cranberry juice and orange juice. Sometimes it tastes more like cranberry and sometimes
36:02Speaker 3more orange.
36:03Speaker 3This is stirred even shaking and peptides aren't.
36:09Speaker 3I don't, I disagree
36:11Speaker 3with your original premise.
36:14Speaker 2I was wondering how you were going ask this. This is why I love that we don't talk about it anymore. We would sit down and read them 1st. Then now that we don't, because I was kind of curious how you're going to ask this. I literally just sat down and wrote an article about
36:27Speaker 3blends and why they do work just fine
36:31Speaker 3when made put together. Right. And, but that had to do with pH concerns.
36:37Speaker 3And
36:39Speaker 3yes, the ratio is this exact same. So, yeah, cool. If you want to take more of 1, you can't, but that's limiting,
36:45Speaker 3but it,
36:47Speaker 3this article did not address
36:49Speaker 3this. No, I get it. It didn't address this, but I
36:53Speaker 3disagree
36:54Speaker 3with,
36:56Speaker 3I don't know. You know what? I like, I'll do some more research, but I think if when put into in the bacterial static like aqueous solution,
37:04Speaker 3And they're floating around together and shaking or stirred. Yeah, you should do, you can do this with the bottle.
37:13Speaker 3I think they mix perfectly fiftyfifty.
37:15Speaker 3But let
37:17Speaker 3me, let me go actually really, really dive into it. Sorry.
37:20Speaker 2Is weird.
37:21Speaker 2And my personality are so different because I'm like, gives a shit? Because it's like, man, are we that worried about it? Because it's like, if the difference is If you were that worried, just do them separate. If you're that worried and like, I'm not being disrespectful, I'm just saying, well, that's just my personality. I'm just like, if I pour a drink and it has a little bit of orange juice and a little bit of, I'm not worried if they're the same. I'm just, this tastes good. You know what I mean? I think that like, sometimes, man, just go easy.
37:46Speaker 2And if you if this this question is really that important to you, buy them separate. Yeah. And and if the error is
37:55Speaker 3like, I can't even Like,
37:58Speaker 2who
37:59Speaker 3cares? Like, yeah. You put 4 mg
38:02Speaker 3in there.
38:04Speaker 3I mean, it and frankly, with these and most things, it doesn't it's not gonna make it bring a difference. If you get if you put 4 mg total like a TV or a little more 0.5. And 2.5
38:16Speaker 3in that shot. You're not gonna notice. Well, the next 1, you'll get more TV. Exactly. And and it really they're don't they don't matter that much. Right? When people are, like, looking at the syringe, right, and like, oh, I'm getting over. Do I put it here Yeah. Or there? I'm like, fuck it. You see how I do my bedtime? Doesn't matter, man. It looks like 10. It's not a big I'm
38:32Speaker 0like, so this yeah.
38:33Speaker 2Everybody's different though, man. Like- Yeah. Listen, dude, you're not me. That's how I deal with stuff. I'm a little bit more calamacaze.
38:39Speaker 3But what I'm saying is if you literally mix exactly a mixed cranberry juice and orange juice, I feel like you get
38:46Speaker 3the same amount of each,
38:49Speaker 3but I guess not. Sometimes I think we're thinking too much. Yeah.
38:52Speaker 3Always thought that they'd mix.
38:55Speaker 3Mean, you can see oil and water don't mix. That's what doesn't mix. Right? If it turns into 1 solid color,
39:02Speaker 3it's mixed.
39:03Speaker 2Okay, next. I'm old school, man. I'm just like, let's think about something If
39:08Speaker 2that's your worry, bro,
39:11Speaker 2your life must be great.
39:13Speaker 3Yes, life must be complex in every decision.
39:16Speaker 2Fuck. Good day, fellas. 1st of all, thank you for all that you do. You guys provide so much valuable information and I love the honesty and transparency. Thank you. I am 45 year old male, five'ten,
39:27Speaker 2tall, 190
39:29Speaker 2pounds active, jujitsu,
39:31Speaker 2and consistent
39:32Speaker 2lifting. Good man. I started peptides
39:35Speaker 23 ish months ago and about to cycle off Tesamorelin.
39:39Speaker 2I currently run 2.5
39:41Speaker 2megs of Reta 2 times a week, 1 meg of MOTS-seed daily,
39:46Speaker 21 meg of 5 Amino daily, and IGF-1LR3
39:51Speaker 2after lifting and jujitsu.
39:54Speaker 2I am contemplating hopping on 2 IUs of HGH daily and doing away with the GHRH
40:01Speaker 2secretagogue.
40:02Speaker 2So my question is this:
40:04Speaker 2have been numerous debates on the Peptide of the Week school community regarding running IGF-1LR-three,
40:10Speaker 2PEG, MGF,
40:12Speaker 2or Tessa with HGH.
40:14Speaker 2What is your opinion of running IGF-1LR-three
40:17Speaker 2while fully cycling HGH? We literally asked this, we had this exact same question and we answered it. So yeah, I mean, please watch the last video. I mean, I've done them both. I think if you really want to be safe, don't run it. Like if you really, really, really want to be safe, there's
40:34Speaker 2no like full blown studies that are going to be anybody will answer it definitively for you. If you want to be on the safer side, just run HGH. I'm going to say HGH blows all them away anyway, just do HGH.
40:44Speaker 2I run HGH and,
40:47Speaker 2know, IGF-1LR-three
40:48Speaker 2all the time.
40:49Speaker 2And I've done it for
40:52Speaker 2many times and I'm fine. And I know that it's not too much.
40:56Speaker 2We know a lot of people that have done it. So I can tell you that I've never even heard of anybody having a problem.
41:02Speaker 2But it depends on you. Do you want to be super safe or do you want to like try them a little bit? That's why, you know, their research peptides, you're trying to, how do you feel? How do you, how are going to look? Do you feel better? We're not saying run the IGF-one
41:14Speaker 2in perpetuity like the HGH you can,
41:19Speaker 2but I hope that helps. I was not trying to confuse it.
41:22Speaker 3I've done it many times. Yep. And the last 1 we did talk about this and had,
41:26Speaker 3and I agree there's, there is no, there's no answer that we're gonna give you that
41:33Speaker 3there's a risk. It's not perfectly safe.
41:36Speaker 3And you, yes, you can do them.
41:38Speaker 3Yeah. You can do them. Don't do them a lot, but different people react a little bit differently, but it's not gonna be purely safe.
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42:44Speaker 2It might be really good and beneficial too. Think about this. That's like saying you shouldn't run testosterone with Mastroon because they're both a testosterone base, like, like, you know what mean? Where it's like you can, if
42:54Speaker 2you run Mastroon
42:56Speaker 2and
42:57Speaker 2testosterone
42:57Speaker 2and Primo and Winstraw, it's less safe for sure. You should do it, but like people do it all the time.
43:04Speaker 3And they look great. And it will work better, but it will be less safe.
43:08Speaker 2What do you feel? Like, do you feel safe doing that?
43:12Speaker 3So I'm sure that made sense. Right? Yeah, it did make sense. Sweet. Alright.
43:15Speaker 3Best stack when you're breaking from Retta.
43:17Speaker 3Should we take breaks from Retta to prevent our bodies from becoming immune to it?
43:22Speaker 3Do you recommend switching to Tirzepatide
43:24Speaker 3or SLUIP for maintenance?
43:27Speaker 2I think that's subjective. How
43:32Speaker 2much weight do you want to lose? What's your objective?
43:34Speaker 2If you're somebody that's
43:36Speaker 2really, really struggling with weight and stuff like that, again,
43:39Speaker 2let's get back to the goal of life. Let's be as healthy as we can and take as least amount of anything that we can because like, that's how God created us. Now we can take supplements to enhance ourselves, but like,
43:51Speaker 2So the goal would be,
43:54Speaker 2no, I don't think that you should stay on it. And I think, do you think that you should cycle it? What's that mean? I don't know. Like what it really is dictated
44:02Speaker 2by like what your objective is
44:05Speaker 2and how much that you need to lose. And there's a lot of different rad peptides,
44:09Speaker 2and I'm not saying you should try them all, but you can.
44:12Speaker 2They all there's a lot of there's nothing that's going to compete with Retatrutide.
44:16Speaker 2Okay?
44:17Speaker 2You have Tesofensine that would some say that it does. I don't think it does, but a lot of people think that it does. But
44:24Speaker 3it's a good appetite suppression. It's a good, weaner donor.
44:28Speaker 2There's a lot of my point. So no, you could, you could, if your weights where you want it,
44:33Speaker 2hopefully you have changed your eating habits and cut out some, a lot of the sugar and you're eating that protein like you're supposed to, like we always talk about
44:41Speaker 2and,
44:42Speaker 2your hormonally optimized
44:44Speaker 2and your weight training and all the stuff that we talk about here constantly
44:49Speaker 2because the peptides are just the add on like you got to build the base, dude. It's only once you have the base, I was the most ripped ever in my life when I was on nothing. I'm serious.
44:59Speaker 2Like I was just fasting a lot, super on carnivore and I was literally on nothing for a full year. It was in my head was fixed
45:06Speaker 2and I was chiseled. Now I wasn't as buff, but I was super ripped, you know? You can't at this point. Yeah. So I agree. Like,
45:14Speaker 3it's subjective. I don't think that anybody should be on a dependent to any drug or anything forever.
45:22Speaker 3But either also we know that like these are meant to reticism is meant to take long term. So Semaglutide and Trizepatide, it's okay.
45:31Speaker 3People have been on these things for a long, long time. You just be smart,
45:35Speaker 3just like every other thing, right? For every action, there's an equal or greater reaction. So longer you're on it,
45:43Speaker 3the
45:44Speaker 3more your body gets used to it. And, but you won't become immune. 1st of all, immune is not the right word, but it's okay. It'll still work. But it'll still work. Yeah. You rebuild tolerances to it over time. So over time, 10 years from now, if you're on Retta, you will need to be taking more than 10 years than from right now. Okay.
46:00Speaker 3But you can still make it work. It'll still work, but do you want to be on that long? Is there any bad side effects for 10 years of use? We don't know because it hasn't been here for 10 years. Yeah. But we're, we, we think actually not.
46:13Speaker 3So yeah, it's subjective. I wouldn't say force yourself to get off every 6 weeks by any means. There's nothing wrong with the person staying on. Yeah. And like, so I want to
46:25Speaker 2say this again, even though we say it a lot, because I think it's just due And that's why we're doing the coaching. I
46:31Speaker 2know Will well, and I know that he's going agree with this because we believe in just like pure health, like diet,
46:38Speaker 2having a, you know, being disciplined in your diet and
46:42Speaker 2you know, weight training and all the things we talk about constantly being hormonally optimized.
46:47Speaker 2And if you're not doing those things and you need help, that's why we're starting the program. I'm not selling you on it, but like, if you're worried about taking Retta for the rest of your life, let's fix that. Let's build your base, you know? And if you need help, we'll try to help you. But no, I don't think that anybody should be running anything in perpetuity, except for TRT and HGH.
47:05Speaker 2I'm
47:07Speaker 2just keeping
47:09Speaker 2my levels where they should be. Yep. All right. You're up. I'm up. Reading.
47:13Speaker 2Right. What's up, fellas? Just got to show some love. Love that.
47:18Speaker 2I watch your podcasts constantly and I have learned so much. I am a 44 year old male police officer in Ohio.
47:25Speaker 2Nice. Who recently got involved with peptides. I've been a gym rat for 25 years. Good for you. And I'm not just putting
47:32Speaker 2the puzzle pieces together. Better late than never. Here are my stats and protocols test,
47:37Speaker 2free total tests, 7 57 free tests, 119.
47:41Speaker 2Estradiol 35 LH-5L-0.5-0.5.
47:46Speaker 2Oh yeah, 0.5. Sorry. Where am I at? I am stacking Retatr, MOTS-1C,
47:50Speaker 2GLOW,
47:51Speaker 2and just started CJC Ipamorelin.
47:54Speaker 2I have dropped 25 pounds in 2 months on peptides, and I would like to continue
47:59Speaker 2shredding my body fat and I am sitting near 21%.
48:03Speaker 2Also, I just ordered PT-one 141 because my sex drive has plummeted. Any suggestions for changing on my stack for getting ripped? I'm not opposed to HGH,
48:14Speaker 2but I didn't want to start out of the gate with it. God bless you.
48:18Speaker 2Wow. Okay.
48:20Speaker 3Those numbers are pretty good. Except the luteinizing hormone, which we're not really familiar with. And luckily I have that written pre research written down. Well, something's killing your sex drive because 119 is good for sex drive. Well, something's off. It's the luteinizing hormone. So that's your natural test production and that is suppressed heavily.
48:40Speaker 3With, this is why you have to run a test base when you run any other steroids because they just suppress the hell out of you and you're open for the testosterone to make up the difference. Sometimes,
48:51Speaker 3your
48:52Speaker 3your nuts still need to be working a little bit. Right? It still helps. Like, that's where that's the that's the real deal. So I know you're taking 7 fives, you're at 7 57 and 119,
49:01Speaker 3but still we want your nuts to be working and producing some testosterone.
49:07Speaker 2So yes. Did he say he's running testosterone?
49:10Speaker 2Oh
49:11Speaker 3yeah. No, he didn't say that if he wasn't. I guess he was just guessing that 44.
49:14Speaker 2I just curious. Read that he wasn't, but like those numbers, I guess he probably is probably a lower dose of TRG. Yeah.
49:22Speaker 3JT is right. Like with those numbers, your sex drive decreased odd.
49:27Speaker 3That's not good. Expect it to be high, respect sex drive.
49:30Speaker 3Why and when did it suddenly decrease? Mhmm. You know what I'm saying? Is there any event or did you make a change?
49:37Speaker 3But I would if you're doing tests, I would run some HCG. Hey, if you're not doing tests,
49:41Speaker 3I would do I would do you're not I mean, shit it. I don't I can't imagine that you're not doing testing. I wouldn't think so.
49:48Speaker 2But You're not. You're it. You know, 8 44.
49:50Speaker 3And clomiphene seems to actually really kind of work.
49:55Speaker 3It suppresses it suppresses estrogen and therefore body reacts and, like, creates testosterone kind of in an odd way. HCG
50:02Speaker 3just goes direct to the source,
50:04Speaker 3and
50:05Speaker 3stimulates
50:06Speaker 3gonadal function.
50:08Speaker 3So
50:09Speaker 2I'd run HCG for sure. I hope both- I totally run-in TRT or run an HCG. Like that's been something we've ran for, like, to keep us fertile for a long time. But like now we know with sitting with a bunch of different doctors and stuff that know what they're talking about, you should. You should run the HCG with it. And the HCG, do think you should cycle off with. I don't think a person should be running an HCG
50:28Speaker 3consistent
50:28Speaker 3for 10 years.
50:31Speaker 3That's just a personal thing
50:33Speaker 3that based on what I've seen from people. So yeah, I would run some HCG and I would start it. I would, I don't know, shit, go heavy with it. You go do thousand
50:41Speaker 3IUs.
50:42Speaker 3It can't hurt 3 times a week for
50:45Speaker 3a month. And then you can like drop down to like a maintenance of
50:49Speaker 3maybe like 5, maybe like 500 IUs twice a week or something like that after.
50:55Speaker 3Go ahead. I'm sorry I interrupted you. So HGH,
50:58Speaker 2you say you're not opposed. Again, you're 44. I think that that's
51:02Speaker 2just the best option if you're, I think it's gonna compete hell a lot better than the secretagogue. So if you're gonna do it, might as well do it. Another 1 is I'm sure we'll, would've probably caught this too, is the MK-677
51:13Speaker 2is not
51:14Speaker 2a peptide, but is a non peptide secretagogue.
51:17Speaker 2And you'll
51:18Speaker 2be hungry and you'll eat more, but you also,
51:22Speaker 2it's the closest thing to gear that you can get in my opinion, and I've done it often.
51:27Speaker 2You'll be a fuller. You'll look like you're almost even kind of running gear if you do it right. And because you'll just be a lot more fuller. That would be something that you should try if you've never tried it.
51:37Speaker 2Maybe try that before the HGH,
51:40Speaker 2maybe drop the CJC and go with MK-677.
51:43Speaker 2I think you'll like it because you'll definitely look a little buffer.
51:47Speaker 2And
51:49Speaker 2so
51:50Speaker 2I'm gonna just throw you what I use a lot And I think any, any man, women are really going to be a little bit different. But men, men over 40, dude, man, if you're not implementing fasting in your life,
52:01Speaker 2jeez, you are just, you want to, you want to change the way that you look fast. I just did a 48 hour fast yesterday. I just got done and like a good friend of mine, like my brother did the dude that made the call that said, you're not acting like that. That was who came over. Was about to come in.
52:17Speaker 2Or I would've went to 72 because I felt great. And you trim off that little extra fat and you discipline yourself. I can go on and on the way. So if you're 40 and you listen, listen, you don't fast,
52:28Speaker 2man, I would really advise you to start trying to fast a little bit. Maybe cut out breakfast
52:32Speaker 23 to 5 times a week, for fun. Just eat 2 meals. You don't eat as much food as you think. Just utilize carbs right before you lift and after you lift and then really no carbs after. You'll lean up, for sure. So that's not a peptide, but I'm telling you, man, it will work. That's true. We're at work. It works. Feel fast. Great dude. When you're like, you're a police officer, right? Is this police officer? Yeah. I think so. You're
52:57Speaker 2so focused when you're fasted because when you try, you eat, you digest, you burn energy and like you get tired, right?
53:04Speaker 2And when you're fasted, you were just like,
53:07Speaker 2on it, man. Your brain's firing because you're not using that energy to digest.
53:12Speaker 3It's dope, dude. And the blood, like when you start, when you eat, all the blood leaves your your brain and goes to your stomach to digest. And that's why I'm gonna go swimming.
53:20Speaker 3That's great. I think that
53:22Speaker 3yeah, man. I mean, to get ripped, you know, you're a gym rat, but but
53:26Speaker 3diet and exercise and consistent
53:29Speaker 3training and smart training and,
53:32Speaker 3and diet again.
53:34Speaker 2Well, again, peptide are utilizing
53:37Speaker 2carbs at our age. Jeez bro. Wait till you get 49. It's a bitch. Like, man, I'd
53:43Speaker 2say 2 times the,
53:45Speaker 2like hit something 38.
53:46Speaker 2I like literally a boof, woah, I got all chubby and fat and I couldn't figure it out. And then 49,
53:52Speaker 2I've recently gone, boom. And I'm just trying to find my sweet spot. Know I talk about it often, but like there's a lot of new lizards. I'm trying to find it.
54:00Speaker 2And that's why I'm fasting and doing different things. I've actually pulled the HGH,
54:05Speaker 2believe it or not. I have pulled out the HGH
54:07Speaker 2because of some gut stuff that I'm dealing with. That's rare for me. We'll tell you, that's what
54:13Speaker 2we do.
54:14Speaker 2Right? We try and figure it out. So a
54:17Speaker 2diet
54:18Speaker 3and how you lift and how you utilize carbs for men 40 is absolutely vital. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Food affects us way more than it did when I was younger. All right, here's my quick suggestion for you.
54:29Speaker 3You might want to go Tesamorelin
54:31Speaker 3and Ipamorelin instead of the CJC. Definitely. Just because Tessa just helps keep that belly leaner and burn fat a bit more. Okay.
54:39Speaker 3I would try SS-thirty
54:41Speaker 31, high dose SS-thirty 1 for a month.
54:45Speaker 3If you feel like running a little self experiment,
54:48Speaker 3do it. You watched the last podcast. And yeah. And, I would,
54:52Speaker 3I said, HCG, but also,
54:55Speaker 3you know, tell us your dose of Retta.
54:57Speaker 3If you're a gym rat, you're,
55:01Speaker 3yeah, that should be working.
55:03Speaker 3If you take a test and everything else, the Retta should be, and you did say you lost shit 25 I mean, dropped 25 pounds in 2 months on Peptide. I guess keep going. Yeah. That's a lot of weight. You may not even need to ask this question. You just might in 2 in another 2 months, you might be there. I'm like, alright. Seriously. I did it. There I am. So keep going, man. I don't need to.
55:23Speaker 3Thanks for the kind words, though, man. It's awesome. Yeah. Thank you. You guys are awesome. I'm 33, fairly lean and athletic, and about 14% body fat. Currently on TRT and have been using Tesla Ipah for a while. I had great success with it. I'm about 2 weeks away from the end of the current cycle of Tesla Ipah. I'd like to get down even more in body fat before vacation to September. Do you have any recommendations for this specific goal? Would Retta be beneficial, or am I already too low in body fat for Retta? I've never used it, so I'm not sure. Also, athletic performance is important for me.
55:56Speaker 3Will this hinder that in any way? Thank you from a firefighter,
56:00Speaker 3father of 3, and a husband down in New Mexico.
56:03Speaker 3All right. Now that I know you're, that's a man. 33. And 33. Hell no, I would do it. I understand.
56:10Speaker 3You know, don't just go here and just do a whole bunch of Retta and say you don't eat. That's where it's gonna hinder your performance if you're not getting enough food to fuel your body. Okay? And it shouldn't, taken right or right, you should maintain your eating habits. In fact, your eating habits should be better because you're eating
56:26Speaker 3small,
56:27Speaker 3frequent, good meals, but it absolutely should not cause you to like not eat and therefore lower energy and therefore not be able to do your job as a firefighter. Okay. You're at 14% body fat. Yep. You got, you got,
56:39Speaker 3you got percentage points to lose. You're not too lean.
56:43Speaker 310% is basically where we get to see that you see your abs. You're
56:47Speaker 3close, You'll get it. You know, you're close. You will get it. I mean, the fact you're there, you're firefighter, you know how to live active, you would live active
56:54Speaker 3and you haven't taken Retta,
56:56Speaker 3then do it and watch the miracle happen.
57:00Speaker 2Yeah.
57:01Speaker 3I'm a senior. He say SLU-1s): I would try taking SLU-1s): That might be fun. It will help your
57:08Speaker 3cardiovascular.
57:09Speaker 3It will help your endurance. It will help with nutrient partitioning, which means if we're worried about losing muscle, that's 1 of those things that you want to take when you're worried about losing muscle, because then all that protein that you actually eat is
57:21Speaker 3being used to its fullest benefit, right? It is shuttling right into your muscles, which is 1 of the main benefits of what IGF-one
57:27Speaker 2does. And
57:31Speaker 3so,
57:32Speaker 3do that. Eat lots of protein.
57:35Speaker 2Yeah. Was, I was looking to see, he didn't say anything about like lifting weights and whatnot. So
57:41Speaker 2I was just looking on, yeah, again, I'm going to be redundant. Just get old school man. Like diet is huge. Fasting is huge.
57:47Speaker 2Lift heavy shit. Like
57:50Speaker 2it's going to always depend on your objective, but the easiest way to get to where you want to be in September,
57:57Speaker 0is that this guy? Yeah. Yeah. Think so.
58:00Speaker 3Is a Retta. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what mean? I'd start with 0.5 of like, dude, honestly, you could do 0.5 of a milligram
58:08Speaker 23 times a week. I started when I started Reda,
58:12Speaker 2I was already really lean
58:14Speaker 2and I did a little bit. I think I started with a meg 3 megs and it went down to 0.5 a meg 3 times a week and dude, look at videos when I was running Reda. I was so freaking lean. My face was like, it goes a long way, man. It really works really well. And so that will work the fastest, but like, I'm a, I've said it many times. I'm a fat burner guy. Like I love SLU-3L-1MQ,
58:38Speaker 2IGF-1MQ, IGF-one, you know, those are the ones that I love. It was funny when Trevor was on here. Like he likes the nootropics. Like he's a brain guy. He likes, I like to burn fat. You know what mean? So like you can calm, you can stack these, you can stack, like, don't, you can do more than just a little bit of red, a little bit of sloop. Like you can get it there. I'm not saying you need to stack 5 or 4 compounds, but you can. And if you're really trying to get lean in a month and 0.5,
59:02Speaker 2you can do without gear by doing that
59:05Speaker 2and eating
59:06Speaker 2and fasting and
59:09Speaker 2lifting
59:10Speaker 0heavy shit. Gotta do that.
59:13Speaker 0Gotta work out.
59:16Speaker 2You're- Not taking us home? Yes, you are. Right. For female,
59:19Speaker 2a female 42 year old IGF-one
59:22Speaker 2marker
59:23Speaker 2did not increase after a cycle of Tessa and Ipamore
59:27Speaker 2nor on IpA alone,
59:29Speaker 2would it be suggested to do IGF-1LR3
59:32Speaker 2possibly,
59:33Speaker 2to possible DES or go to actual HGH at a low dose or 1 IU?
59:40Speaker 2Mainly looking to maintain
59:42Speaker 2weight and build lean muscle already have hormones optimized
59:45Speaker 2at goal weight and low body fat. Currently running a low maintenance dose of Retta at 0.5 mg weekly, that's super low just for maintenance and regular cycle
59:55Speaker 2mitochondria
59:56Speaker 2peptides throughout the year. Thanks so much.
1:00:00Speaker 3So, okay, so you, 42 year old female, it sounds like you're on your shit, right? You are.
1:00:07Speaker 3The fact that you did a cycle of Tessa IpA then took a blood test to check your markers, then you did a cycle just IpA alone and then followed that with a blood test. Like,
1:00:16Speaker 3you know, you're on top of it. You're also basically you're just you said, like, I'm actually I'm great right now. Right? Already have my hormones optimized. I'm at my goal weight and I am a low body fat percentage.
1:00:26Speaker 2Stop. Alto.
1:00:27Speaker 3No mas. You just currently cycle You answered it. Mitochondrial peptides throughout the year. The retina seems to be working. Here's what I would say though about those blood test markers on the test, but like they okay, these are so sensitive to the timing
1:00:41Speaker 3of your use before the blood test.
1:00:44Speaker 3So
1:00:45Speaker 3really sensitive. Like there's a reason that anything that you have to do daily, that means it gets in you and out of you really fast. So hours matter on that blood test marker. So
1:00:55Speaker 3if you did
1:00:57Speaker 3also your whole cycle of it doesn't really mean anything on your blood test marker. Right? What matters is like the 1 injection you did right before it and how many hours before the blood test you did it. So my
1:01:09Speaker 3like DES, the IGF-1DS,
1:01:11Speaker 3LR3 is like a long is a long acting. DES is is short acting.
1:01:17Speaker 3If I was you, I would do HGH.
1:01:21Speaker 3I do HGH. It's probably safer than any of the IGF ones. It's obviously been studied and been around longer. Why not you for women? It's probably better It's easy. Also, because it's not only gonna help build muscle, but it's gonna help
1:01:34Speaker 3take care of wrinkles. Right? It's gonna do all these other, like, growth things besides just grow muscle,
1:01:39Speaker 3whereas
1:01:40Speaker 3the, IGF-one
1:01:42Speaker 3will not do just growing muscle.
1:01:45Speaker 3Plus you're of age, you know, take a low dose, take 1 IU a day,
1:01:50Speaker 3then run it. And I bet it will make you really happy.
1:01:54Speaker 3It takes a little while, Takes a little while. Women a little quicker. You're already fit. I could just tell you just seem like you're on it.
1:02:01Speaker 3Yeah. A little 1 IU of HGH
1:02:03Speaker 3is awesome for women. 2 IU for men. I don't think many need to go above that. I tried. I didn't like it. I was holding water. Tried though. Right?
1:02:12Speaker 2AOD
1:02:13Speaker 2and Tesofensine for women. I've said it 1000000 times, you can try that, but you already answered your question. You said you feel great and you're out of your go away. Stop.
1:02:19Speaker 2Right? Because you're not always gonna be there. You're gonna lose that sweet want to do more, you know how it is. Yeah. I'm just saying like, you're good. So you'd like, you're where you need to be. So chill for a bit because you don't stay in that sweet spot.
1:02:31Speaker 2So run it while you're there.
1:02:33Speaker 2And, but yeah, the HGH 1 IU will be the best of all of the security guards. Yep.
1:02:39Speaker 0Oh,
1:02:41Speaker 3was great. Will needs to do some work.
1:02:43Speaker 3You guys like everything that we talk about is there including,
1:02:47Speaker 3well, these videos,
1:02:49Speaker 3anytime that we ever do a profile, 1 peptide on the screen, it's that whole presentation
1:02:54Speaker 3is there. Anything we talk about, there are
1:02:58Speaker 3protocols and sourcing information right there on school. Yeah. Lot of people are looking. DMS
1:03:04Speaker 3if you need to, if you want to,
1:03:06Speaker 3but there's
1:03:08Speaker 3even stacks of
1:03:10Speaker 3different peptides on school,
1:03:12Speaker 3like 4 different things.
1:03:14Speaker 3You know? The muscle, like, building stack,
1:03:17Speaker 3acute injury stack.
1:03:19Speaker 3Oh, you know what the other other guy? PT-one 40 1. Sorry, dude. Yeah.
1:03:23Speaker 3Keep using the PT. Use the 41. It's awesome. It
1:03:28Speaker 2works. Yeah. It does. It works. Right.
1:03:31Speaker 2See Coaching call Monday, we'll be dropping that. Join it,
1:03:34Speaker 2if you're interested in, that stuff. And other than that, we'll catch you next round later.