Peptide Q&A #54 – Peptide Blends Achilles Surgery Recovery, Adderall Detox & HGH vs IGF-1 Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-54-peptide-blends-achilles-surgery-recovery-adderall-detox-hgh-vs-ig/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:01 Speaker 0: Low energy? Unfocused? 0:03 Speaker 0: Foggy? 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Will and I have both 1:54 Speaker 2: been fitness trainers and coaches, and that's kind of the start of what we've done, and it's done us well. And a lot of people have asked, so we are doing that. Now, 2:03 Speaker 2: anything we do, we try to do well here. So we did start it a while back, but we were just busy and now it's time to let it go. So we did hire a coach that's going to help us with that. 2:12 Speaker 2: And it's going to be on nutrition, obviously, 2:15 Speaker 2: diets, 2:16 Speaker 2: different workouts, 2:18 Speaker 2: obviously, accountability, 2:20 Speaker 2: that stuff's needed. 2:21 Speaker 2: For that. There's going to be some branding talk. There's going to be some business talk. You know, it's, we're getting you in shape. That's the objective. 2:29 Speaker 2: But you know how we talk in this podcast? We're sober. We do big shit. We expect a lot from ourselves. We expect a lot of people from who we hang out with. So we're going to push you. We'll push you to get in shape. We're going to push you to better your life. 2:43 Speaker 2: And that's what it's going to be. 2:45 Speaker 2: A little bit about that is how we're going to start it is, we're going to have a Zoom call on Monday. This podcast will drop tomorrow, so you will hear this. 2:54 Speaker 2: And it's going to be open to everybody. 2:56 Speaker 2: Will, we will be putting it out on all of our outlets, 2:58 Speaker 2: so you will be able to find the link easy. We'll make it easy for you. 3:02 Speaker 2: And it's really just to talk about it. You're going to meet the coach that we 3:05 Speaker 2: have brought on a new warrior maker employee. 3:08 Speaker 2: He's awesome. I trained with him a lot. 3:10 Speaker 2: I think he's just, you know, he's a, he's a man of God, which is important for us. He's a, he's a sober guy, which that's not always 3:17 Speaker 2: not a must, but it's just, we like sober people 3:21 Speaker 2: And we 3:22 Speaker 2: make, we want to do, we want to help people get healthy. That's the objective of this whole thing. That's why it started. So I'm 3:29 Speaker 2: looking forward to it. We're going to do a Zoom call a week and talk about a lot of different stuff on each zoom call. And so we got a lot of stuff coming. So if you are interested in that, 3:40 Speaker 2: obviously there will be some peptide talk and supplement talk and all that stuff because all of that stuff goes along with that stuff. 3:48 Speaker 2: And so that's, what's going to be happening. So if you're curious about that and want to get some more information, join the zoom call. I don't know how many people will join. I have no clue. 3:57 Speaker 2: I'll stay on until every question is answered. Fair enough. 4:02 Speaker 3: Yep. Anything to add on that? Who's the name of 4:06 Speaker 3: kind of our main trainer, right? We have worked with him and built, well, going for a lot of, he's been doing this for a long time. So he has programs 4:14 Speaker 3: and a proven track record of getting people in shape and having like well rounded programs. So the big part is 4:20 Speaker 3: that it's gonna be these, these we have designed different 4:24 Speaker 3: programs for 4:26 Speaker 3: different folks. Right? 4:28 Speaker 3: It's online. I mean, basically it's, we're not, you don't have to be live here, 4:33 Speaker 3: right here to participate. 4:34 Speaker 3: The whole point is online coaching and the biggest thing it's a well rounded approach. So yes, nutrition, 4:40 Speaker 3: workouts, actually like workout videos, workouts, custom to you, 4:44 Speaker 3: supplementation, 4:47 Speaker 3: you know, consultations to go over just make sure that 4:51 Speaker 3: everything is aligned to get you in the fast in the best shape as fast as possible. 4:57 Speaker 3: And the guy's good and 5:00 Speaker 3: and you will get in shape as long as you just simply 5:03 Speaker 2: do what he says and follow through. Get in shape. Like, we want to go further than that, man. We want to build better people. Like, you know, we're men, so we want to build better men. You know, if you see the content we put out in different categories, 5:14 Speaker 2: we want to bring back some old school, like 5:17 Speaker 2: morality and like, you know, like treat your wife well and like raise your son to be strong, like kid of integrity. 5:24 Speaker 2: Like, we're going to talk about that stuff because, and 5:27 Speaker 2: you guys, if you're on school, 5:29 Speaker 2: look at the camaraderie on that. Want to, we want to compound that. We want to continue to build a warrior maker brand and people that 5:37 Speaker 2: are aligned with what we just talked about. And like, I love it. I 5:42 Speaker 2: love getting on those types of Zoom calls 5:44 Speaker 2: because it's usually people that are positive and like we want to talk about wins and triumphs and what are you struggling with? How do we fix it? So it's gonna be dope. I'm excited. 5:53 Speaker 2: So yeah, we're going to do that on Monday. So we'll be dropping a bunch of different stuff. So just be prepared for that. Most of you probably know, if you don't, our YouTube got taken down and that sucks because a lot of time was spent to cultivate it. It was almost 100,000 6:09 Speaker 2: subscribers, which on YouTube is difficult and 6:12 Speaker 2: it just was abruptly taken down. 6:15 Speaker 2: And it doesn't look like we're going to get it back. We put it back up and it was taken down again. So we did start a rumble. I am not a big rumble guy myself, 6:24 Speaker 2: but I will learn to be. 6:26 Speaker 2: And that's 6:27 Speaker 2: where we're at. Apparently, rumble is a place where free speech lives. 6:32 Speaker 2: It is what it is. It is what it is. We do have a lot of outlets. We still have school. We have, you know, our Instagram stuff. We're going be adding some stuff too. As 6:40 Speaker 2: always, 6:41 Speaker 2: we've done a lot of research and stuff. We're trying to like zigzag around some of these laws and stuff that I don't even think anybody knows what the laws are. They're gray. 6:50 Speaker 2: We got, you know, we're on Spotify. 6:52 Speaker 2: If, you know, if you do listen to this on, 6:55 Speaker 2: you were on YouTube and you found it, it's on Spotify, which is the biggest 1 that we use anyway, 7:00 Speaker 2: Apple also, I mean, are the 2 main podcasts anyway. 7:04 Speaker 3: YouTube was just like overflow. And by the way, Spotify has videos. It's not just listening. Yeah. I didn't know that for a long time. I still think that 0.5 of people don't know that. Like if you're listening to this, by the way, you can actually make click a few more things and watch 7:18 Speaker 3: this, 7:19 Speaker 2: which is how this was meant. Watch these good looking things. This was meant to be as a watched show. Watch my beard become more gray and gray. I've looked at some older content, which not even that long ago, I'm like, my beard was a lot more brown. 7:32 Speaker 2: It's turning gray. I'm turning 49. I'm 49. So I guess it is what it is. 3rd 7:38 Speaker 2: thing we want to talk about, we'll never talk about this morning. So, I said, let's just ask the people to ask the people to listen. 7:45 Speaker 2: He was thinking that we might, Q and A episode might be getting a little stale. I don't think so because I read a lot more of the comments, but I'm not you. So 7:56 Speaker 2: let's ask you, do you like this platform on this? We do 2, a lot of times it's 8:02 Speaker 2: Q and A, we do once a week and then we do either a guest or we break down a couple of compounds. So 8:08 Speaker 2: do you want us to do something and try to revamp the Q and A? Do you like the Q and A, how we just sit down and kind of go over your questions? 8:15 Speaker 3: Let us know in the comments if what you want. If we have a guest, which I think we're doing this week. So if we have a guest, would you like us to tell you about the guest beforehand so then you can write in questions? 8:28 Speaker 3: Yeah. I believe we are do we have done that. So, 8:32 Speaker 3: Danny, I believe, 8:34 Speaker 3: is going to talk to us all about water. 8:36 Speaker 2: And how do you say it wrong? Caggen, Kangen, K 8:40 Speaker 2: A N G E N. A lot of stuff about water. Well, like, again, a lot of people don't even know that like, if you're drinking just typical water, you're not really like hydrating yourself. You need to add Celtic salt water or something like that. If you're peeing a lot, it just means you're not absorbing it. So like, that's why I'm always drinking salt water. It's not, you get used to it. It doesn't bug me anymore versus kind like, but 9:02 Speaker 2: that's why I do it because I want to be hydrated. You, when you wake up, you need to hydrate. 9:07 Speaker 2: Right. When you wake up, you need to have a bunch of water. So add some salt water to it. But anyway, she's going to tell us, I'm excited. 9:13 Speaker 2: We love having these guests. I hope that you guys do too. You know, it's peptide podcast, but like, man, health is not just peptides. It's like, it's a lot of different stuff. Like, 9:24 Speaker 2: we've learned so much. I've just loved it. I there's so much that I've learned on just doing this podcast. 9:29 Speaker 2: And I'm sure you have too. 9:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can maybe have you guys write in, 9:34 Speaker 2: give you guys a list because now we're starting to plan out, you know, different, you know, actually about a month and 2 out, so it's going well. 9:41 Speaker 2: So that's the last thing, obviously school, 9:44 Speaker 2: school's popping, you guys are loving it. That's awesome. We get a lot of comments on that. 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Also, if you have some people that are, you think would be a good guest, 10:38 Speaker 2: you know, how generally most people, some of them are friends and some of them were finding on 10:43 Speaker 2: Instagram because obviously their algorithm picks up, you know, what we're into. But, man, there's some cool guests coming on. I'm excited to kind of sit down with some of them because I'm ready to learn a lot about what they talk about, a lot of different doctors and stuff. So it's gonna be cool. All 10:57 Speaker 2: right. Good stuff. All right. We're ready for the Q and A. 11:01 Speaker 3: 1. Hey guys, this is a question from my mom. She's 68, having surgery to repair bone spurs 11:06 Speaker 3: around her Achilles tendon. The surgeon says recovery will take 1 year. They're going to detach her tendon to clean the area and reattach. My mom is very receptive to help from peptides. 11:17 Speaker 3: I'd like to help her by giving her high doses of BPC and TB-five hundred stack as she recovers. I've helped her since, 11:24 Speaker 3: I've helped her since being sedentary 11:27 Speaker 3: to lose her 11:29 Speaker 3: weight by giving her 2 mgs of Retta weekly. She's down 21 pounds, 11:32 Speaker 3: trying to help her get weight down from 2 24 starting to now 2 0 4. Her surgery is scheduled in a month outside of giving her 2 MIGS Wolverine daily after surgery. Any recommendations? Thank you so much for all you guys do. So, I mean, she's almost 70 years old and 11:49 Speaker 3: probably hurts her to get up and move around because or else why would you be having the surgery? 11:55 Speaker 3: So that's pretty damn good for, like, losing 20 pounds. And my guess is she's, like you said, sedentary. 12:02 Speaker 3: Good for you. Anything else? 12:05 Speaker 3: Absolutely do the Reddit. Mean, it sounds like you already know the the Wolverine the Wolverine stack. 12:12 Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, I would give her some just general health, especially at her age. I think that some of these mitochondrial peptides will be really good for, 12:19 Speaker 3: a general 12:21 Speaker 3: make her feel better, like NAD plus, 12:23 Speaker 3: MOTS-3one, 12:26 Speaker 3: Glutathione. 12:29 Speaker 3: That's what comes to mind right now. Even B12, like methylcobalamin, 12:34 Speaker 3: which is the methylated form of B12. 12:36 Speaker 3: And 12:38 Speaker 2: I don't know, JD, what you got? Well, I mean, you can go up on the red eye if it's quick. She's going to be going in for a month. That's going to be the fastest way to get her to lose a little bit more weight so that you could do 3 or 4 megs. I'm not saying you should, I'm saying you can, 12:51 Speaker 2: that's going to be the fastest way. I mean, in regards to the healing, I want to focus on the healing of 12:57 Speaker 2: her 12:57 Speaker 2: Achilles. 12:59 Speaker 2: That sounds, that sucks. That sounds, so you want to definitely run that 3 weeks up in my opinion 13:05 Speaker 2: to it. Let's start getting that like saturated and let's start getting that compound in her. And you say high dose, you can actually, if you can afford it, you can go higher. I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't, and you can 13:17 Speaker 2: then more than 2 megs, you know? So that's another option, but I would say 3 weeks before 13:23 Speaker 2: start less than that and then run it after. You can do more if you can afford it to Migs if you want and she can handle it. Another option is what I did after I had my surgery and I didn't know about it until somebody suggested, so I started doing a reading about it, which was hyperbarics. 13:40 Speaker 2: Hyperbarics will expedite the healing. 13:42 Speaker 2: It, I think it worked for me. I mean, I took a lot of the Wolverine and I got into hyperbaric for 7 days in a row and I was in the gym in 2 weeks. I'm not expecting your mom to be back in 2 weeks because her surgery sounds a little bit more gnarly than mine. 13:57 Speaker 2: But these are things that can definitely help. And you definitely want to get her moving. You know, I know that's going to suck for her, but like after the surgery, you just need to move, get that blood flow. I know it's going to suck, but I moved. I did not allow myself to, I had like 1 day I think, and then like I was moving, like I had an objective to get better. She'll be, I mean, that foot will be immobilized. It'll be in a, in a cast or a walking boot. And so you don't you need some blood flow. Right? You need blood flow. My guess is with I've had a I've had surgery on my feet 3 times, I think. I think I have 2 pins in 1 foot and pin in the other foot. 14:32 Speaker 3: You'll 14:33 Speaker 3: some moving around. I mean, let her recover for a few for a few days. She's older. It's gonna take longer to recover. 14:39 Speaker 3: If you get her moving, just don't be don't do it for long periods of time. It's like, guarantee she's gonna need to lay down and elevate that foot. Sure. Because gravity's gonna be pulling all that blood down, and it's gonna be pulsing pulsing. But, yeah, your goal should be to get her up and I mean, hell, she can sit in a chair and lift weights with bands, right? That's resistance training and she absolutely should. Yeah, love it. But they have traveling hyperbaric, so they if need to, it might, I'm telling you it will help a little bit, so for sure. All right. I thank you both for creating this space and sharing your valuable experience with peptides. I am 41 year old woman. I love weights and heavy loads. 15:17 Speaker 2: I'm currently, 15:18 Speaker 2: I'm currently trying to gain as much muscle as possible, which I'm eating enough protein and carbs. This is my 2nd month using CJC- 15:27 Speaker 2: Ipamorelin, 15:28 Speaker 2: and I just added SS-thirty 1. I like 15:31 Speaker 2: every woman, I want to keep my abdomen as flat as possible. Would you recommend changing CJC for Tessa? 15:38 Speaker 2: If so, what would be the recommended 15:41 Speaker 2: dose? I'm also thinking of changing SS-thirty 1 for MOTS-C. 15:46 Speaker 2: Thoughts on that. You're very much. All right, thank you very much. God bless you both. Awesome. It's good stuff. I think we're both going to say yes. Yeah. 15:53 Speaker 2: Thoughts are yes, you should. Man, I'm going to tell you this, 15:57 Speaker 2: obviously for what we do for a living, we talk about this constantly. We, 16:02 Speaker 2: we, all our friends are talking about this constantly. And I'm going to tell you more and more and more and more and more people I'm hearing have bad reactions to CJC. 16:10 Speaker 2: All 16:11 Speaker 2: the time. And, I'm not trying to scare you, 16:14 Speaker 2: but with that being said, and just Tesamorelin, 16:16 Speaker 2: especially for women in my opinion, is so much better. 16:19 Speaker 2: For that reason, those 2 reasons alone, I would definitely do that. So I think you're gonna like it a lot better. But yeah, I'm even blown away by how many people are having responses towards CJC and really bad ones. 16:31 Speaker 2: Really, really bad histamine responses. When some people go in the hospital and stuff like that. And I'm not trying to scare anybody from using it, I'm just letting you know, we hear a lot about them. So 16:39 Speaker 3: pretty crazy. What would you say on the dosage? So I would say for women, kind of a Tesamorelin 16:44 Speaker 3: start at, 16:46 Speaker 3: don't, so there will be a point where 16:49 Speaker 3: your body starts retaining water. Okay. 16:52 Speaker 3: Everybody 16:53 Speaker 3: is different, especially women. That point is probably a little bit lower dose. And when you reach that point, 17:00 Speaker 3: that's basically your highest dose that you can do without having side effects. Now you can try Now if you just go, So where does it range? I'd probably feel safe starting at 500 micrograms 17:11 Speaker 3: daily. 17:14 Speaker 3: The clinical trials and the actual FDA approvals for up to 2 mg daily. 17:19 Speaker 3: So but I'd start at a I'd start at 500 micrograms, 17:23 Speaker 3: do that for a couple of weeks, stabilize, make sure that you're not retaining any water, and then bump up in increments of 2 50 micrograms. 17:31 Speaker 3: And do, if you bump up, right, do that for 2 weeks, right? 1 way to get faster water retention is to bump up really fast. So I wouldn't go from 500 to 1000. I'd go, especially as 1 in 500 to 2 52 17:44 Speaker 3: weeks, then another 2 50. And if you do start retaining water, great, just lower it back down to the last level and your body should normalize and you'll be just fine. Yeah. There's 17:53 Speaker 3: that's the thought. Now, SS-thirty 17:56 Speaker 3: 1, 17:57 Speaker 3: hell yeah. I, and I've always, 18:00 Speaker 3: I've always said high doses is the way to go. And I still believe that even higher doses JD and I are both taking, I'm taking 15 mg daily right now. And, 18:09 Speaker 3: my plan to go up to, I don't know, probably to 20, 25. Let's see what happens. But I would stick with your SS-thirty 1 for a month and 18:18 Speaker 3: I would run it. I would, I would do at least 5 mg. That's what I've always said. And for even though I'm doing 15, I'm a big guy and maybe I can, and I'm a, and I'm a man, but, 18:29 Speaker 3: that just means I have a bigger frame and I can tolerate things more. Okay. 18:34 Speaker 3: So I would do, 18:36 Speaker 3: I'd do that for a month for sure and then, yep, switch to MOTS-1C. Yeah. Okay. 18:42 Speaker 3: And you can pull the SS-thirty 1 and SS-thirty 1. You can do that, do MOTS-3.00 maybe 2 months, 18:48 Speaker 3: then go back to SS-thirty 1. 18:50 Speaker 3: And there's a lot more to do, but there it is. That's my dose. I think MOTS-1MQ is best at 1 mg daily. There's protocols out there saying like 5 mg once a week. 19:00 Speaker 3: Cool. 19:02 Speaker 3: I noticed when people do that, they don't feel very good. Like almost like hypertensive. Like it gives you just like too much energy. Like you just, you took too much pre workout and now you can, you can't go work out that feeling. Yeah. 19:13 Speaker 3: Or you did cocaine 19:15 Speaker 3: and you don't have any left 19:17 Speaker 3: even worse. So 19:20 Speaker 2: don't you do that? That's what I got for you. Yeah, that's perfect. I think the only thing that you could add is that like, if you wanted to add like an AOD in for 19:28 Speaker 2: women, I think it does amazing. 19:30 Speaker 2: The Tessa Ipamorelin 19:32 Speaker 2: mix for women, I think just really transforms their body because I just, most women, man, they just don't need a whole lot, you know? So you can add that in. I think it'll work well. Okay. I did want to actually want to say like you could, so I know, hey, your goal is to gain as much muscle as you possibly can, right? 19:48 Speaker 3: While keeping your stomach flat. I still think you can take Retta at a small dose. So the only reason that 19:54 Speaker 3: Retta is gonna conflict with muscle gain is if you're not, if it's restricting you from eating 19:59 Speaker 3: enough protein. Okay? Other than that, if you're able and with that's the beauty of it is like, still can't eat. Now, if you take high doses of Retta, yeah, hell yeah. It's going to cut down your appetite, but something like 0.5 20:11 Speaker 3: a milligram twice a week, right? Will keep your body burning fat, keep your stomach lean, 20:16 Speaker 3: help with nutrient protein. I mean, the list kind of goes on with Reta, but you can take a low dose to help supplement and still maintain your same appetite. And as long as you're getting the calories in 20:29 Speaker 3: great, it's not impeding your muscle growth. 20:31 Speaker 2: And for anybody that thinks that they can't get 1 g of protein per 20:36 Speaker 2: body weight, that's silly because if you take some Greek yogurt, you know, and then put 2 scoops of protein and mix it up and maybe put some blueberries in it or something, I mean, you got like 50 plus, 20:47 Speaker 2: maybe more, depending on how much Greek yogurt you use and how much protein, you know, is in your what you get, how many grams are in that. But it's so easy, especially if you're a small gal. You do eat that twice. 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I'm not gonna use all of this, and it will 22:28 Speaker 3: convert that into sugar, into glucose. 22:32 Speaker 3: So that's a proven scientific principle. 22:34 Speaker 3: So but that's at more I still think I, as a grown man, can take about 50 grams of protein every 2 hours. The rest of it is just going to be pooped out and doesn't count. As a woman, I'd be aiming for 22:46 Speaker 3: 30 22:47 Speaker 3: grams maybe, and that's just general 30 grams per 22:52 Speaker 3: meal, but basically 2 hours. The, like the, best way I think to gain the most amount of muscle would be to have a syringe full of protein, right? And then inject myself every 2 hours, 20 23:03 Speaker 3: fourseven. Then that would maximize my protein intake. 23:07 Speaker 3: So 23:08 Speaker 3: real world example, right? You got to fit life in there, but that's about it. And use protein powder to your benefit, but you still better eat food. Yeah. Easy peasy. But it makes it easier when you can just whack, take a shake with 30, 40 g of protein. Yeah, make your each meal, work each meal around your protein. Yeah. 23:25 Speaker 3: And protein post workout 100% and 23:29 Speaker 3: right before bed, lean protein right before bed, you need the building materials right before you go to sleep because that's when we're asleep, that's what our body does most of that muscle building. 23:38 Speaker 3: Hey, 23:39 Speaker 3: love y'all's podcast. I'm 18 years old, 5 23:42 Speaker 3: foot tall, 96 pounds. I've been introduced to the peptides because my mom is a holistic doctor and has been using them to help her patients. Good for her Good job, mom. 23:52 Speaker 3: I begged to be put on Adderall when I was 14, 23:55 Speaker 3: for ADHD, 23:56 Speaker 3: and my mom didn't want me to, but she eventually gave in. I have been at the lowest possible dose since, but I want to be done with it, And I've been struggling to get off of it. Sleeping 16 hours, depression. Yep. I've been on NAD and glutathione since February for energy, and I'm wondering what other peps can help me help 24:14 Speaker 3: me that won't change my appetite. 24:17 Speaker 3: I tried MOTS-4C for a few months too, but my body fat went to 15% 24:22 Speaker 3: and that's a bit low for me. Oh, so when you say don't change your appetite, you mean it's, you don't want something that's gonna cut your appetite? 24:31 Speaker 3: Anyway, here's I have some plans for you. Tesofensine. 24:34 Speaker 3: So, 24:36 Speaker 3: let me take out the fact that you're 18 and I'm gonna answer this. 24:41 Speaker 3: Like, I guess that's not necessarily bad, but I don't know. I think young people But coming off drugs, yeah, I think you should get off the damn Adderall ASAP. 24:50 Speaker 3: Tesofensine is freaking awesome. It is a really good I mean, even Paul had in her, in his training 24:56 Speaker 3: tells mentions this to people. So Tesofensine 24:59 Speaker 3: will give you energy and like decrease your depression. 25:04 Speaker 3: And JD doesn't really notice a appetite 25:07 Speaker 3: killing, but sometimes I notice it not wanting not making me want to eat sweets. So that's like kind of a good thing in anybody's book. Yeah. 25:16 Speaker 3: So Tesofensine, 25:18 Speaker 3: Cmax. 25:20 Speaker 3: So Cmax, C Lank is the 1 that is a angiolytic that makes you calm. Cmax is the 1 that gives you energy, 25:27 Speaker 3: just neurological 25:29 Speaker 3: energy. So Semax, 25:31 Speaker 3: Tesofensine, 25:33 Speaker 3: you know, you could try Dihexa. Some people definitely feel energized 25:38 Speaker 3: and a bit happier. 25:39 Speaker 3: I don't think that taking 25:43 Speaker 3: what's that limitless pill? Oh, modafinil. I don't think modafinil is a good No. You're just trading 25:49 Speaker 3: you're just kind of trading drugs at that point. Yeah. But, 25:53 Speaker 3: but I don't know. I mean, if you take that for a, for a controlled amount of time to get off the Adderall and then you get off of the modafinil, 26:00 Speaker 3: if you're able to do that, I'm never able to do that. Although modafinil, 26:04 Speaker 3: don't get addicted to. So, 26:08 Speaker 3: those are my thoughts. I was 26:11 Speaker 2: curious how you're going to answer that 1. It's a, I think the 18 year old 26:15 Speaker 2: through throws us both off and that's so young to us now. 26:20 Speaker 2: So I wasn't going to even really answer it much. Think you said, set a great team actually along because they're perfect. I'm going to go at it from a different angle because we'll answered it. If you want to that type of help from a peptide advice, that's perfect. 26:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, that, and if there's any parents listening to this, 26:37 Speaker 2: it sucks. I know it like these 26:40 Speaker 2: types of drugs, Adderall and things like this, these are narcotics and their problems. And I don't think they're going to be the answers, you know? And I'm not judging this parent. It's not what I'm talking about, but it's a sucks to get off this stuff. It really does, you know? And, 26:55 Speaker 2: to the person that wrote into this, I 26:58 Speaker 2: feel that you can really connect and get off of that stuff when you like start helping other people and doing for other people and getting out of yourself. 27:06 Speaker 2: And I know that might sound a little woo woo, but I really believe God blesses you when you do that because getting off narcotics, we've been there, it sucks. 27:15 Speaker 2: And it's not even necessarily narcotics if you're going through something difficult. My daughter went through some stuff in high school that was difficult. And I would always say, Taylor, your mom and tell her how much you love her and tell her why. And she's like, And I'm like, because you're not thinking of you. You know what I mean? And these are just some things that you can start to cultivate in your own life that, you know, we don't want you to always think that you need to take something, you know, you're 18 and like, this is a peptide podcast, but we really want to, I know, I know I can speak for will on this. I don't speak for him often, but I know I can speak for will on this. When we say, we don't think people need to take everything in perpetuity. This is a peptide podcast, but like, we want you to get the base and the base is you feeling great without anything, especially at 18, you know, you don't really necessarily need peptides. 27:58 Speaker 2: Now, if it's 27:59 Speaker 2: you getting on like an antidepressant 28:02 Speaker 2: or Cmax or C launch without a doubt, get on the C LONC or Cmax. 28:08 Speaker 2: But 28:09 Speaker 2: I really believe that God knows what he's doing. And if you can just put in effort to 28:16 Speaker 2: find your sweet spot in your soul, if that makes any sense, 28:21 Speaker 2: you'll have a lot of time to take peptides. I hope that makes some sense, 28:25 Speaker 2: because you can get off the Adderall. You should get off the Adderall and 28:32 Speaker 2: start trying to enjoy life. And I have found the most joy when I'm helping other people. Hope that helps. And the final thing is you will not find a way to get off of this pain, pain free. 28:44 Speaker 3: Okay. So you're waiting to find the answer where you get to stop and 28:49 Speaker 3: you get to stop. And like, 28:51 Speaker 3: there is no depression whatsoever and no tiredness. Just like, I just need that seamless magic pill that makes me perfectly get off. It's 28:58 Speaker 3: not going to happen. So 29:00 Speaker 3: I always, every time I had to detox, you know, it was just always amazed me that and coming off opiates is a different story. But, 29:08 Speaker 3: like, man, it's like 4 or 5 days out of, from out of my life, my entire life. And I'm just still on, and I just cannot 29:17 Speaker 3: do that, which blew my mind. Like for this Adderall, you've been on it for a little while and I get it. It's tough, but just for the rest of your life, happiness, right? You just gotta be a little bit miserable for 29:28 Speaker 3: a day, maybe 2 days maybe. Right? 29:31 Speaker 3: So just kind of know that you're not looking for a pain free answer regardless 29:35 Speaker 3: of what LL-1T you take and nothing's going to really be fully pain free. 29:40 Speaker 2: I, I, yes, I agree with everything. JD said more good stuff. All right. My, yeah. Yes. All right. Hi guys. I recently found your podcast and I'm hooked. I'm 32 year old female who lost 60 pounds 0.5 naturally 29:54 Speaker 2: and the rest with Tirzepatide. 29:56 Speaker 2: Good for you. And it's completely changed my life. I had back surgery 7 years ago and I've noticed Tirzepatide seems to really help with my inflammation. I'm currently training for 2nd 30:07 Speaker 2: high rocks race, 30:09 Speaker 2: and my goal is to build more lean muscle. I'm, finishing my last bottle of Tirzepatide, 30:15 Speaker 2: and I've been considering Retrutide, 30:17 Speaker 2: but I'm a little intimidated by all the different peptides out there and want to keep things simple. Is there anything you'd recommend 30:25 Speaker 2: that, could help with inflammation 30:27 Speaker 2: while supporting those goals? Also the best way to transition from being Entrezeppatide 30:33 Speaker 3: to Retta. Thank thank you guys for your awesome. That's awesome. Yo. Do you know what HYROX is? No. 30:39 Speaker 3: It is. 30:41 Speaker 3: It is a fitness racing competition and here are the events apparently. 30:46 Speaker 3: Correct. I'm sorry if, if these chains, like, you know, CrossFit is like just brand new shit, which is kinda why it's cool. But number 1, ski 30:54 Speaker 3: the thousand meters on the ski machine. That's like, you know, the these things that pull down. Yeah. 31:00 Speaker 3: Sled push, 50 meters. Wow. Sled pull, 50 meters. Burpee broad jumps, 80 meters. Rowing, thousand meters on the rowing machine. Farmers carry 200 meters carrying kettlebells, sandbag lunges, a 100 meters walk. That one's tough. A 100 meters walking lunges with sandbags on your shoulders, 31:18 Speaker 3: wall balls, a 100 reps throwing a medicine 3 ball to a target. 31:21 Speaker 2: Dang. That sounds gnarly. Yeah, it does. So good for you. 0 Gosh, I would expect that to lose a loop like in the training, you would be losing a crazy amount of weight. 31:30 Speaker 2: You need to make sure you're eating girls. Like you're going to do all that stuff. That's a lot. So you need to make sure you've been eating your 31:37 Speaker 2: protein for sure. 31:39 Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to both say you should switch to Retatrutide. 31:42 Speaker 2: Do you need it? You didn't really say how much you need to lose. 31:45 Speaker 2: Again, 31:47 Speaker 2: nothing needs to be in perpetuity. 31:49 Speaker 2: Know, 31:51 Speaker 2: Retatrutide 31:52 Speaker 2: without a doubt is better than Tirzepatide. You know, some people disagree because they like to not have hunger. You should have hunger and you should eat, 31:59 Speaker 2: especially you, you need to eat. 32:01 Speaker 2: You need to be eating and you need to, if the tirzepatide could actually make you be eating not enough, 32:07 Speaker 2: because that actually kind of blocks the hunger a bit more. 32:11 Speaker 2: So, and if to answer your question in regards to the inflammation, to me is an easy 1. It would be TA-one, MSN Alpha-one, 32:19 Speaker 2: because that's going bring down your inflammation. 32:21 Speaker 2: It's really, 32:22 Speaker 2: talked about the most for its immunity, 32:25 Speaker 2: but it's the best for inflammation. 32:28 Speaker 2: So you can definitely add that. And in regards to the Retatrutide, if you're going to run a GLP-one, absolutely, you should change to, 32:36 Speaker 2: that. 32:37 Speaker 2: Dosa, did you want to take that part? Yeah, sure. 32:40 Speaker 3: Let me finish my do my recommendation on so you, if it were me and I'm doing all this stuff and competing and you've done it a few times, like I would need BPC and TB-five hundred 32:50 Speaker 3: to heal my joints 32:52 Speaker 3: and everything else. So that just might help you a ton. Think about that. SLU-332 32:58 Speaker 3: is going to really help with nutrient partitioning, make sure the right nutrients are going right to the right places and endurance. 33:06 Speaker 3: So it's a great, it's a great 1 to take intra competition. 33:10 Speaker 3: And 33:11 Speaker 3: then, yeah, he's right. Like your goal is to build as much muscle as possible. Then, yeah, get the hell off of the Tirzepatide because for sure, you built some tolerance to it by now, but it's still, 33:23 Speaker 3: I get that inflammation thing, but Thymosin Alpha, I would use for the inflammation 33:28 Speaker 3: and I would a 100% switch to Retta. You may 33:31 Speaker 3: have a little bit more hunger. You probably will have a little bit more hunger, but cool, 33:36 Speaker 3: great. Use it to, 33:38 Speaker 3: use it to your benefit and eat good, healthy protein with that extra hunger. Now the wean off period is so basically the dosings are based are pretty 33:50 Speaker 3: much exactly the same. 33:53 Speaker 3: I would, I always like to play things conservatively, so I don't know if she tells us what dose she's at in Tirzepatide. 33:59 Speaker 3: Let's imagine you're at 5 mg a week Tirzepatide, 34:02 Speaker 3: and I would hope that you're doing it 2 to 3 times a week, just because we found that that's more comfortable and works better. If you're at 5 megs of Tirzepatide, 34:10 Speaker 3: I would probably, 34:11 Speaker 3: I don't even, I think I would pull the band aid off. I would go, I would pull 5 and I would start with 3. That's what I was gonna say. Okay. Let's start with 3. See how feel. And 34:22 Speaker 3: then, you know, I would, you could bump up, but so Retta takes a little bit longer. I'd almost say like 2 weeks to really like start to feel 34:30 Speaker 3: its effect. So a lot of people, if they take it for 1 week and then they bump up, 34:34 Speaker 3: that was too early of a bump up. And then that week, that 3rd week they go, oh shit, now it's too much. So I would go in 2 week intervals before you make decisions to bump back up. And I would do it twice a week, 2 times a week, 2 to 3 times a week. It's up to you. I've, you know, it's up to you. 34:52 Speaker 3: And, 34:54 Speaker 3: but I also would probably back out about 5 mg of Retta. I'd start with 3, and I would try to stay there. Hopefully, you can just stay at 3. 35:01 Speaker 3: Really help us if you told us how much weight you need to lose. Yes. Now the SLUOP, here's the thing. I would I know that there is there's 100 mg SLUOP out there for you and your competition. 35:11 Speaker 3: I would if I was you, I'd be taking the 1000 35:14 Speaker 3: microgram, which is 1 mg 35:17 Speaker 3: sublingual 35:18 Speaker 3: tablets. 35:19 Speaker 3: K? 35:20 Speaker 3: And, school 35:22 Speaker 3: has sourcing information 35:25 Speaker 3: and full bios of everything that we talk about. Yeah. So you want to know what the, like, the written 35:31 Speaker 3: literature is on anything we talk about? It's there for you. You're that. 35:35 Speaker 2: Cool. Cool. Alright. Cool. Yeah. 35:37 Speaker 3: I think, no, I am. 35:39 Speaker 3: Love and love and listen to your show daily on repeat. Keep 35:44 Speaker 3: up the awesome info. Others have asked this question before in your Q and A, but in my opinion, it really wasn't answered to how they meant it. Okay. So I'm going to try because I have the same question. Wolverine equal parts, BPC-157 35:55 Speaker 3: TB-four. 35:56 Speaker 3: When drawing a dose, what guarantees me that exact equal parts of each compound end up in the syringe? 36:03 Speaker 3: I have a hard time believing that 2 separate chains of amino acids 36:07 Speaker 3: mix perfectly together 36:09 Speaker 3: and you get exact equal parts like mixing cranberry juice and orange juice. Sometimes it tastes more like cranberry and sometimes 36:17 Speaker 3: more orange. 36:18 Speaker 3: This is stirred even shaking and peptides aren't. 36:24 Speaker 3: I don't, I disagree 36:26 Speaker 3: with your original premise. 36:29 Speaker 2: I was wondering how you were going ask this. This is why I love that we don't talk about it anymore. We would sit down and read 1st and then now that we don't, because I was kind of curious how you're going to ask this. Literally just sat down and wrote an article about 36:42 Speaker 3: blends and why they do work just fine 36:46 Speaker 3: when made put together. Right. And, but that had to do with pH concerns. 36:52 Speaker 3: And 36:54 Speaker 3: yes, the ratio is this exact same. So, yeah, cool. If you want to take more of 1, you can't, but that's limiting, 37:00 Speaker 3: but it, 37:02 Speaker 3: this article did not address 37:04 Speaker 3: this. It 37:06 Speaker 3: didn't address this, but I disagree 37:09 Speaker 3: with, 37:11 Speaker 3: I don't know. You know what? I like, I'll do some more research, but I think if when put into in the bacterial static like aqueous solution, 37:19 Speaker 3: and they're floating around together and shaking or stirred, yeah, you should do, you can do this with the bottle. 37:28 Speaker 3: I think they mix perfectly fiftyfifty. 37:31 Speaker 2: Let 37:32 Speaker 3: me, let me go actually really, really dive into it. Sorry. 37:35 Speaker 2: Is weird. 37:36 Speaker 2: And my personality are so different because I'm like, gives a shit? Because it's like, man, we that worried about it? Because it's like, if the difference is If you were that worried, just do them separate. If you're that worried and like, I'm not being disrespectful, I'm just saying, well, that's just my personality. I'm just like, I pour a drink and it has a little bit of orange juice and a little bit of, I'm not worried if they're the same. I'm just, this tastes good. You know what mean? I think that like, sometimes, man, just go easy. 38:01 Speaker 2: And if you if this this question is really that important to you, buy them separate. Yeah. And and if the error is 38:10 Speaker 3: like, I can't even Like, imagine micromic 38:13 Speaker 3: like, micromicogram off. Like, who cares? Like Yeah. You put 4 mg 38:16 Speaker 3: in there. 38:18 Speaker 3: I mean, it and frankly, with these and most things, it doesn't it's not gonna make it bring a difference. If you get if you put 4 mg total like a PD or a little more 38:28 Speaker 3: and 2.5 38:30 Speaker 3: in that shot. You're not gonna notice. Well, the next 1, you'll get more TV. Exactly. And and it really they're don't they don't matter that much. Right? When people are, like, looking at the syringe, right, and like, oh, I'm getting over. Do I put it here or there? I'm like, fuck, it does. You see how I do my peptide? Just doesn't matter. It looks like tin. Not a big It's tin. Like, so this 38:48 Speaker 2: Everybody's different though, man. Like- Yeah. Listen, dude, you're not me. That's how I deal with stuff. I'm a little bit more kamikaze. 38:54 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is if you literally mix exactly a mix 38:57 Speaker 3: cranberry juice and orange juice, I feel like you get 39:01 Speaker 3: the same amount of each, 39:04 Speaker 2: but I guess not. Sometimes I think we're thinking too much. Yeah. I always thought that they'd mix. 39:10 Speaker 3: Mean, you can see oil and water don't mix. That's what doesn't mix. Right? If it turns into 1 solid color, 39:17 Speaker 2: it's mixed. 39:18 Speaker 2: Okay, next. I'm old school, man. I'm just like, let's think about something If 39:23 Speaker 2: that's your worry, bro, 39:26 Speaker 2: your life must be great. 39:28 Speaker 3: Yes, life must be complex in every decision. 39:31 Speaker 2: Fuck. Good day, fellas. 1st of all, thank you for all that you do. You guys provide so much valuable information and I love the honesty and transparency. 39:38 Speaker 2: Thank you. I am 45 year old male, five'ten, 39:42 Speaker 2: tall, 190 39:44 Speaker 2: pounds active, jujitsu, 39:46 Speaker 2: and consistent lifting. Good man. I started peptides 39:50 Speaker 2: 3 ish months ago and about to cycle off Tesamorelin. 39:54 Speaker 2: I currently run 2.5 megs of Retta 2 times a week, 1 mg of MOTS-seed daily, 40:01 Speaker 2: 1 mg of 5 Amino daily, 40:03 Speaker 2: IGF-1LR3 40:06 Speaker 2: after lifting and jujitsu. 40:08 Speaker 2: I am contemplating hopping on 2 IUs of HGH daily and doing away with the GHRH 40:16 Speaker 2: secretagogue. 40:16 Speaker 2: So my question is this: 40:19 Speaker 2: have been numerous debates on the Peptide of the Week school community regarding running IGF-1LR-three, 40:25 Speaker 2: PEG, MGF, 40:27 Speaker 2: or Tessa with HGH. 40:29 Speaker 2: What is your opinion of running IGF-1LR-three 40:32 Speaker 2: while fully cycling HGH? We literally asked this, we had this exact same question and we answered it. So yeah, I mean, please watch the last video. I mean, I've done them both. I think if you really want to be safe, don't run it. Like if you really, really, really want to be safe, there's 40:49 Speaker 2: no like full blown studies that are going to be anybody will answer it definitively for you. If you want to be on the safer side, just run HGH. I'm going to say HGH blows all them away anyway, just do HGH. 40:59 Speaker 2: I run HGH and, 41:02 Speaker 2: know, IGF-1LR-three 41:03 Speaker 2: all the time. And I've done it for 41:06 Speaker 2: many times and I'm fine. And I know that it's not too much. 41:11 Speaker 2: We know a lot of people that have done it. So I can tell you that I've never even heard of anybody having a problem. 41:17 Speaker 2: But it depends on you. Do you want to be super safe or do you want to like try them a little bit? That's why, you know, their research peptides, you're trying to, how do you feel? How do you, how are you going to look? Do you feel better? We're not saying run the IGF-one 41:29 Speaker 2: in 41:30 Speaker 2: perpetuity like the HGH you can, 41:34 Speaker 2: but I hope that helps. I was not trying to confuse it. 41:37 Speaker 3: I've done it many times. Yep. In the last 1, we did talk about this and had, 41:41 Speaker 3: and I agree there's, there is no, there's no answer that we're gonna give you that 41:47 Speaker 3: there's a risk. It's not perfectly safe. 41:51 Speaker 3: And you yes, you can do them. 41:53 Speaker 3: Yeah. You can do them. Don't do them a lot, but different people react a little bit differently, but it's not gonna be purely safe. 41:59 Speaker 3: Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes, 42:02 Speaker 3: 0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade electrolytes. 42:15 Speaker 1: Ultra running shoes are all about space. The space to go further, 42:20 Speaker 1: to feel better, to do something you never thought possible. 42:24 Speaker 1: And this space starts with UltraFit. 42:27 Speaker 1: Unlike traditional running shoes, UltraFit gives toes more room to move naturally, 42:31 Speaker 1: so every step is strong, balanced, and comfortable. 42:35 Speaker 1: Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. Shop now at ultrarunning.com. 42:41 Speaker 1: That's altrarunning.com. 42:44 Speaker 2: It might be really good and beneficial too. Think about this. That's like saying you shouldn't run testosterone with Mastroon because they're both a testosterone base, but like, like, you know what I mean? Where it's like you can, if 42:54 Speaker 2: you run Mastroon and 42:57 Speaker 2: testosterone and Primo and Winstraw, it's less safe for sure. You should do it, but like people do it all the time. 43:04 Speaker 3: They look great. And it will work better, but it will be less safe. 43:08 Speaker 2: What do you feel? Like, do you feel safe doing that? 43:12 Speaker 2: So I'm sure that made sense. Right? Yeah, it did make sense. So 43:15 Speaker 3: Best stack when you're breaking from Retta. 43:17 Speaker 3: Should we take breaks from Retta to prevent our bodies from becoming immune to it? Do you recommend switching to Tirzepatide or SLU-4maintenance? 43:27 Speaker 3: I think that's subjective. How 43:32 Speaker 2: much weight do you want to lose? What's your objective? 43:34 Speaker 2: If you're somebody that's really, really struggling with weight and stuff like that, again, 43:39 Speaker 2: let's get back to the goal of life. Let's be as healthy as we can and take as least amount of anything that we can because like, that's how God created us. Now we can take supplements to enhance ourselves, but like, 43:51 Speaker 2: So the goal would be, 43:54 Speaker 2: no, I don't think that you should stay on it. And I think, do you think that you should cycle it? What's that mean? I don't know. Like what it really is dictated 44:03 Speaker 2: by like what your objective is 44:05 Speaker 2: and how much that you need to lose. And there's a lot of different rad peptides, and I'm not saying you should try them all, but you can. There's 44:13 Speaker 2: a lot of not there's nothing that's going to compete with Retatrutide. 44:17 Speaker 2: You have Tesofensine that would some say that it does. I don't think it does, but a lot of people think that it does. But 44:24 Speaker 2: it's a good appetite suppression. It's a good, weaner donor. Yeah. But there's a lot of my point. So no, you could, you could, if your weights where you want it, 44:33 Speaker 2: hopefully you have changed your eating habits and cut out some, a lot of the sugar and you're eating that protein. Like you're supposed to, like we always talk about 44:41 Speaker 2: and, 44:42 Speaker 2: you're hormonally optimized 44:44 Speaker 2: and your weight training and all the stuff that we talk about here constantly 44:50 Speaker 2: because the peptides are just the add on like you got to build the base, dude. It's only once you have the base, I was the most ripped ever in my life when I was on nothing. I'm serious. 44:59 Speaker 2: Like I was just fasting a lot, super on carnivore and I was literally on nothing for a full year. It was in my head was fixed 45:06 Speaker 2: and I was chiseled. Now I wasn't as buff, but I was super ripped, you know? You can't at this point. Yeah. So I agree. Like, 45:14 Speaker 3: it's subjective. I don't think that anybody should be on a dependent to any drug or anything forever. 45:22 Speaker 3: But either also we know that like these are meant to reticent is meant to take long term. So Semaglutide and Trizepatide it's okay. 45:31 Speaker 3: People have been on these things for a long, long time. You just be smart, 45:35 Speaker 3: but just like every other thing, right? For every action, there's an equal or greater reaction. So longer you're on it, 45:43 Speaker 3: the 45:44 Speaker 3: more your body gets used to it. And, but you won't become immune. 1st of all, immune is not the right word, but it's okay. It'll still work. But it'll still work. Yeah. We build tolerances to it over time. So over time, 10 years from now, if you're on Retta, you will need to be taking more than 10 years than from right now. Okay. 46:00 Speaker 3: But you can still make it work. It'll still work, but do you want to be on that long? Is there any bad side effects for 10 years of use? We don't know because it hasn't been here for 10 years. Yeah. But we're, we, we think actually not. 46:13 Speaker 2: So yeah, it is subjective. I wouldn't say force yourself to get off every 6 weeks by any means. There's nothing wrong with the person staying on. Yeah. And like, so I wanna, I wanna, I wanna say this again, even though we say it a lot, because I think it's just due And that's why we're doing the coaching. I 46:31 Speaker 2: know Will well, and I know that he's going to agree with this because we believe in just like pure health, like diet, 46:39 Speaker 2: having a, you know, being disciplined in your diet and 46:42 Speaker 2: know, weight training and all the things that we talk about constantly being a hormonally optimized. 46:47 Speaker 2: And if you're not doing those things and you need help, that's why we're starting the program. I'm not selling you on it, but like, if you're worried about taking Retatrut the rest of your life, let's fix that. Let's build your base, you know? And if you need help, we'll try to help you. But no, I don't think that anybody should be running anything in perpetuity, except for TRT and HGH. 47:05 Speaker 2: I'm 47:07 Speaker 2: just trying to lose weight because of them. Just keeping my levels where they should be. 47:11 Speaker 2: Yep. All right, you're up. I'm up. Reading. 47:13 Speaker 2: Right. What's up, fellas? Just got to show some love. Love that. 47:19 Speaker 2: I watch your podcasts constantly and I have learned so much. I am a 44 year old male police officer in Ohio. 47:25 Speaker 2: Nice. Who recently got involved with peptides. I've been a gym rat for 25 years. Good for you. And I'm not just putting 47:32 Speaker 2: the puzzle pieces together. Better late than never. Here are my stats and protocols. 47:37 Speaker 2: Free total tests, 7 57 free tests, 119. 47:41 Speaker 2: Estradiol 35 LH-5L-0.5-0.5. 47:46 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, 0.5. Sorry. Where am I at? I am stacking Retatr, MOTS-1C, 47:51 Speaker 2: GLOW, 47:51 Speaker 2: and just started CJC Ipamorelin. 47:54 Speaker 2: I have dropped 25 pounds in 2 months on peptides and I would like to continue 48:00 Speaker 2: shredding my body fat and I am sitting near 21%. 48:03 Speaker 2: Also, I just ordered PT-one 141 because my sex drive has plummeted. Any suggestions for changing on my stack for getting ripped? I'm not opposed to HGH, 48:14 Speaker 2: but I didn't want to start out of the gate with it. God bless you. 48:19 Speaker 2: Wow. Okay. 48:21 Speaker 3: Those numbers are pretty good. Except the luteinizing hormone, which we're not really familiar with. And luckily I have that written pre research written down. 48:28 Speaker 2: Some things kill your sex drive because 119 is good for sex drive. Well, something's off. It's the luteinizing hormone. So 48:35 Speaker 3: that's your natural 48:37 Speaker 3: test production and that is suppressed heavily. 48:40 Speaker 3: With, this is why you have to run a test base when you run any other steroids because they just suppress the hell out of you. You're open for the testosterone to make up the difference. Sometimes, 48:51 Speaker 3: your 48:53 Speaker 3: nuts still need to be working a little bit. Right? It still helps. Like, that's where that's the real deal. So I know you're taking 7 fives, you're at 7 57 and 119, 49:02 Speaker 3: but still we want your, your nuts to be working, 49:06 Speaker 2: and producing some testosterone. So yes. Did he say he's running the testosterone? Oh 49:11 Speaker 3: yeah. No, he didn't say that if he was. Oh, I guess he was. I was just guessing that at 44. 49:15 Speaker 2: Curious. I read that he wasn't, but like those numbers, I guess he probably is probably a lower dose of TRT. Yeah. 49:23 Speaker 3: But JT is right. Like with those numbers, your sex drive decreased odd. 49:27 Speaker 3: That's not good. Expect it to be high, respect sex drive And why and when did it suddenly decrease? You know what I'm saying? Is there any event or did you make a change? 49:37 Speaker 3: But I would if you're doing tests, I would run some HCG. Hey, if you're not doing tests, 49:42 Speaker 3: I would do I would do you're not I mean, shit it. I don't I can't imagine that you're not doing testing. I would think so. 49:48 Speaker 3: You're not. You're killing it. You know, A-forty 4. 49:51 Speaker 3: Enclomiphene seems to actually really kind of work. 49:55 Speaker 3: It suppresses it suppresses estrogen and therefore body reacts and, like, creates testosterone kind of an odd way. HCG just goes direct to the source 50:04 Speaker 3: and stimulates 50:07 Speaker 3: gonadal function. 50:08 Speaker 3: So 50:09 Speaker 2: I'd run HCG for sure. I hope most people run-in TRT or run an HCG. Like that's been something we've 50:15 Speaker 2: ran for, like, to keep us fertile for a long time. But like now we know with sitting with a bunch of different doctors and stuff that know what they're talking about, that you should run the HCG with it. And the HCG, do think you should cycle off with. I don't think a person should be running an HCG consistent 50:29 Speaker 3: for 10 years. 50:31 Speaker 3: That's just a personal thing 50:34 Speaker 3: that based on what I've seen from people. So, yeah, I would run some HCG and I would start it. I would, I don't know, shit, go heavy with it. You know, do thousand 50:41 Speaker 3: IUs. 50:42 Speaker 3: It can't hurt 3 times a week for a month. And then you can like drop down to like a maintenance of 50:49 Speaker 3: maybe like 5, maybe like 500 IUs twice a week or something like that after. 50:55 Speaker 3: Go ahead. I'm sorry, interrupted you. So HGH, 50:58 Speaker 2: you say you're not opposed. Again, you're 44. I think that that's just 51:03 Speaker 2: the best option if you're, I think it's gonna compete hell a lot better than the secretagogue. So if you're gonna do it, might as well do it. Another 1 is I'm sure we'll, would have probably caught this too, is the MK-677 51:13 Speaker 2: is not 51:14 Speaker 2: a peptide, but is a non peptide secreted dog. And you'll 51:19 Speaker 2: be hungry and you'll eat more, but you also, 51:22 Speaker 2: it's the closest thing to gear that you can get in my opinion, and I've done it often. 51:27 Speaker 2: You'll be a fuller. You'll look like you're almost even kind of running gear if you do it right. And because you'll just be a lot more fuller. That would be something that you should try if you've never tried it. 51:38 Speaker 2: Maybe try that before the HGH, 51:40 Speaker 2: maybe drop the CJC and go with MK-677. 51:44 Speaker 2: I think you'll like it because you'll definitely look a little buffer. And 51:49 Speaker 2: so 51:50 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just throw you what I use a lot and I think any man, 51:54 Speaker 2: women are really going be a little bit but man, men over 40 dude, man, if you're not implementing fasting in your life, 52:01 Speaker 2: geez, you are just, you want to, you want to change your, the way that you look fast. I just did a 48 hour fast yesterday. I just got done in like a good friend of mine. Like my brother did the dude that made the call that said, you're not acting like that. That was who came over. He was about to come in. Anyways, 52:17 Speaker 2: or I would've done 1 to 72 because I felt great. 52:20 Speaker 2: You trim off that little extra bad and you discipline yourself. I can go on and on the way. So if you're 40 and you listen, listen, you don't fast, man, I would really advise you to start trying to fast a little bit, maybe cut out breakfast 52:32 Speaker 2: 3 to 5 times a week, just for fun. Just eat 2 meals. You don't eat as much food as you think. Just utilize carbs right before you lift and after you lift and then really no carbs after you'll lean up dude, for sure. So that's not a peptide, but I'm telling you, man, it will work. That's true. We're at work. It works. Feel fast. Great dude. Like when you're like you're a police officer, right? Is this a police officer? Yeah. Think so. Yeah. You're so focused when you're fasted because when you eat, 53:00 Speaker 2: you digest, you burn energy and you get tired. Right? 53:04 Speaker 2: And when you're fasted, you were just 53:07 Speaker 2: on it, man. Your brain's firing because you're not using that energy to digest. 53:12 Speaker 3: Dope, dude. And the blood, like when you start, when you eat, all the blood leaves your brain and goes to your stomach to digest. And that's why I'm gonna get Yep, 53:20 Speaker 3: that's great. I think that, 53:23 Speaker 3: yeah, man, I mean, to get ripped, you know, you're a gym rat, but 53:27 Speaker 3: diet and exercise and consistent 1 53:30 Speaker 3: training and smart training and, 53:32 Speaker 3: and diet 53:34 Speaker 2: Well, again, 53:35 Speaker 2: peptide, are you utilizing 53:37 Speaker 2: carbs at our age? Jeez bro, Wait till you get 49. It's a bitch. Like, man, I'd 53:43 Speaker 2: say 2 times the, I like hit something 38. 53:47 Speaker 2: I like literally a boof, woah, I got all chubby and fat. I couldn't figure it out. And then 49, 53:52 Speaker 2: I've recently gone boom. And I'm just trying to find my sweet spot. Know I talk about it often, but like there's lot of new lizards. I'm trying to find it. 54:01 Speaker 2: That's why I'm fasting and doing different things. I've actually pulled the HGH, 54:05 Speaker 2: believe it or not. I have pulled out the HGH 54:08 Speaker 2: because of some gut stuff that I'm dealing with. And that's rare for me. We'll tell you. That's what 54:13 Speaker 2: we do. We try and figure it out. So a 54:17 Speaker 2: diet 54:18 Speaker 2: and how you lift and how you utilize carbs for men 40 is absolutely 54:23 Speaker 3: vital. Yeah, it is. Yep. Food affects us way more than it did when I was younger. All right, here's my quick suggestion for you. 54:29 Speaker 3: You might want to go Tesamorelin 54:32 Speaker 3: and Ipamorelin instead of the CJC. Definitely. Just because Tessa just helps keep that belly leaner and burn fat a bit more. Okay. 54:40 Speaker 3: I would try SS-thirty 1, high dose SS-thirty 1 for a month. 54:45 Speaker 3: You feel like running a little self experiment, 54:48 Speaker 3: do it. You watched the last podcast. And yeah. And, I would, like I said, HCG, 54:54 Speaker 3: but also, 54:55 Speaker 3: you know, tell us your dose of Retta. 54:58 Speaker 3: If you're a gym rat, you're 55:02 Speaker 3: that should be working. 55:04 Speaker 3: If you're taking tests and everything else, the Retta should be and you did say you lost shit 25 I mean, dropped 25 pounds in 2 months on Peptide. So I guess keep going. Yeah. That's a lot of weight. You may not even need to ask this question. You just might in 2 in another 2 months, you might be there and be like, alright. Seriously. I did it. There I am. So keep going, man. I don't keep you. 55:24 Speaker 2: Thanks for the kind words, man. It's awesome. Yeah, thank you. 55:26 Speaker 3: You guys are awesome. I'm 33, fairly lean and athletic, and about 14% body fat. Currently on TRRT and have been using Tesla Ipah for a while. I had great success with it. I'm about 2 weeks away from the end of the current cycle of Tesla Ipah. I'd like to get down even more in body fat before vacation to September. Do you have any recommendations for this specific goal? Would Retta be beneficial, or am I already too low in body fat for Retta? I've never used it, so I'm not sure. Athletic performance is important for me. 55:56 Speaker 3: Will this hinder that in any way? Thank you from a firefighter, 56:00 Speaker 3: father of 3 and a husband down in New Mexico. All right. Now that I know you're, that's a man. 33. And 33. Hell no, I would do it. I understand. 56:10 Speaker 3: You know, don't just go here and just do a whole bunch of Retta and say you don't eat. That's where it's going hinder your performance if you're not getting enough food to fuel your body. Okay. And it shouldn't, taken right or right, you should maintain your eating habits. In fact, your eating habits should be better because you're eating small, 56:27 Speaker 3: frequent, good meals, but it absolutely should not cause you to like not eat and therefore lower energy and therefore not be able to do your job as a firefighter. Okay. You're at 14% body fat. Yep. You got, you got, 56:39 Speaker 3: you got percentage points to lose. You're not too lean. 56:43 Speaker 3: 10% is basically where we get to see that you see your abs. You're 56:48 Speaker 3: close, You'll get it. You know, you're close. You will get it. I mean, the fact you're there, you're firefighter, you know how to live active, you would live active 56:54 Speaker 3: and you haven't taken Retta, 56:57 Speaker 3: then do it and watch the miracle happen. 57:01 Speaker 2: Yeah. 57:02 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it. Did he say SLU-1MQ I would try taking SLU-1MQ That might be fun. It will help your 57:08 Speaker 3: cardiovascular. 57:09 Speaker 3: It will help your endurance. It will help with nutrient partitioning, which means if we're worried about losing muscle, 57:15 Speaker 3: that's 1 of those things that you want to take when you're worried about losing muscle, because then all that protein that you actually eat is 57:21 Speaker 3: being used to its fullest benefit, right? It is shuttling right into your muscles, which is 1 of the main benefits of what IGF-one 57:27 Speaker 3: does. And 57:31 Speaker 3: so, yeah, do that. Eat lots of protein. 57:36 Speaker 2: Yeah. Was looking to see, he didn't say anything about like lifting weights and whatnot. So 57:41 Speaker 2: I was just looking at him. Again, I'm going to be redundant. Just get old school, man. Like diet is huge. Fasting is huge. 57:48 Speaker 2: Lift heavy shit. 57:49 Speaker 2: Like 57:50 Speaker 2: it's going to always depend on your objective, but the easiest way to get to where you want to be in September, 57:57 Speaker 2: is that this guy? Yeah. Yeah. Think so. Is a Retta. Yeah. Yeah. And I'd 58:04 Speaker 3: start with 0.5 of like, dude, honestly, you can do 0.5 of a milligram 58:08 Speaker 2: 3 times a week. I start when I started Reda, 58:12 Speaker 2: I was already really lean 58:14 Speaker 2: and I did a little bit. I think I started with a Meg, 3 mgs and it went down to 0.5 a Meg 3 times a week. And dude, look at videos when I was running Reda. I was so freaking lean. My face was like, it goes a long way, man. It really works really well. And so that will work the fastest, but like I'm a, I've said it many times. I'm a fat burner guy. Like I love SLU-3L-1MQ, 58:39 Speaker 2: IGF-1MQ, IGF-one. You know, those are the ones that I love. It was funny when Trevor was on here. He likes the nootropics. Like he's a brain guy. He likes, I like to burn fat. You know what mean? So like you can calm, you can stack these, you can stack, like, don't, you can do more than just a little bit of red, a little bit of sloop. Like you can get it there. I'm not saying you need to stack 5 or 4 compounds, but you can. And if you're really trying to get lean in a month and 0.5, 59:03 Speaker 2: you can do without gear by doing that 59:05 Speaker 2: and eating 59:07 Speaker 2: and fasting and 59:09 Speaker 2: lifting 59:10 Speaker 2: heavy shit. Gotta do that. 59:13 Speaker 3: Gotta work out. 59:16 Speaker 2: You're- Taking us home? You are. Right. For female, 59:20 Speaker 2: a female 42 year old IGF-one 59:22 Speaker 2: marker 59:23 Speaker 2: did not increase after a cycle of Tessa and Ipamore 59:27 Speaker 2: nor on IpA alone, 59:29 Speaker 2: would it be suggested to do IGF-1LR3 59:33 Speaker 2: possibly, 59:34 Speaker 2: to possible DES or go to actual HGH at a low dose or 1 IU? 59:40 Speaker 2: Mainly looking to maintain 59:42 Speaker 2: a weight and build lean muscle already have hormones optimized 59:46 Speaker 2: at goal weight and low body fat. Currently running a low maintenance dose of Reta at 0.5 mg weekly. That's super low just for maintenance and regular cycle 59:56 Speaker 2: mitochondria 59:56 Speaker 2: peptides throughout the year. Thanks so much. 1:00:00 Speaker 3: So, okay, so you, 42 year old female, it sounds like you're on your shit, right? Like you are. Are. You, you, you, you, you The fact that you did a cycle of Tessa Ipah, then took a blood test to check your markers, then you did a cycle of just Ipah alone and then followed that with a blood test. Like, 1:00:16 Speaker 3: you know, you're on top of it. You're also basically you're just you said, like, I'm actually I'm great right now. Right? Already have my hormones optimized. I'm at my goal weight, and I'm a low body fat percentage. 1:00:26 Speaker 3: Stop. Alto. 1:00:28 Speaker 3: No mas. You just currently cycle You answered it. Mitochondrial peptides throughout the year. The retina seems to be working. Here's what I would say though about those blood test markers on the test. Like, 1:00:38 Speaker 3: These are so sensitive to the timing 1:00:41 Speaker 3: of your use before the blood test. 1:00:44 Speaker 3: So 1:00:45 Speaker 3: really sensitive. Like, there's a reason that anything that you have to do daily, that means it gets in you and out of you really fast. So hours matter on that blood test marker. So if 1:00:56 Speaker 3: you did, and also your whole cycle of it doesn't really mean anything on your blood test marker, right? What matters is like the 1 injection you did right before it and how many hours before the blood test you did it. So 1:01:08 Speaker 3: my 1:01:09 Speaker 3: like, DES, the IGF-1DS, 1:01:11 Speaker 3: LR3 is like a long is a long acting. DES is stupid. It's short acting. 1:01:18 Speaker 3: If I was you, I would do HGH. 1:01:21 Speaker 3: I do HGH. It's probably safer than any of the IGF ones. It's obviously been studied and 1:01:26 Speaker 3: been around longer. Why not you for women? It's probably better. It's easy. Also, because it's not only gonna help build muscle, but it's gonna help 1:01:34 Speaker 3: take care of wrinkles. Right? It's gonna do all these other, like, growth things besides just grow muscles, 1:01:39 Speaker 3: whereas the, 1:01:41 Speaker 3: IGF-one 1:01:42 Speaker 3: will not do, just growing muscle. 1:01:45 Speaker 3: So plus you're of age, you know, take a low dose, take 1 IU a day, 1:01:51 Speaker 3: then run it. And I bet it will make you really happy. It takes a little while. It takes a little while. Women a little quicker. You already fit. I could just tell you just seem like you're on it. 1:02:01 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1 IU of HGH 1:02:04 Speaker 2: is awesome for women. 2 IU for men. I don't think many need to go above that. I tried. I didn't like it. It was holding water. Tried though. Right? 1:02:13 Speaker 2: AOD and Tesofen for women. I've said it 1000000 times, so you could try that, but you already answered your question. You said you feel great and you're on your go away. Stop. 1:02:20 Speaker 2: Right? Because you're not always going be there. You're going to lose that sweet spot. What to do more, you know how it is. Yeah. I'm just saying like, you're good. So you'd like, you're at where you need to be. So chill for a bit because you don't stay in that sweet spot. 1:02:31 Speaker 2: Run it while you're there. 1:02:34 Speaker 2: But yeah, the HGH 1 IU will be the best of all of the security guards. 1:02:39 Speaker 2: Yep. Oh, 1:02:41 Speaker 3: that's great. Will needs to do some work. 1:02:44 Speaker 3: Guys like everything that we talk about is there including, 1:02:47 Speaker 3: well, these videos, 1:02:49 Speaker 3: anytime that we ever do a profile, 1 peptide, 1:02:52 Speaker 3: on the screen, it's that whole presentation 1:02:54 Speaker 3: is there. Anything we talk about, there are 1:02:58 Speaker 3: protocols and sourcing information right there on school. Yeah. A lot of people are looking. DMS DMS 1:03:04 Speaker 3: if you need to, if you want to, but 1:03:07 Speaker 3: there's 1:03:08 Speaker 3: even stacks 1:03:10 Speaker 3: of different peptides on school, 1:03:12 Speaker 3: like 4 different things. 1:03:14 Speaker 3: You know? The muscle, like, muscle building stack, 1:03:17 Speaker 3: acute injury stack. 1:03:19 Speaker 3: Oh, you know what the other other guy? PT-one 41. Sorry, dude. Yeah. 1:03:24 Speaker 3: Keep using the PT, use the PT-one hundred 41. It's awesome. It 1:03:28 Speaker 2: works. Yeah. It does. It works. All right. So yeah, coaching call Monday, we'll be dropping that. Join it, 1:03:35 Speaker 2: if you're interested in, that stuff. And other than that, we'll catch you next round later.