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1:05Speaker 2Welcome back to the peptide of the week podcast. I'm your host JD denim across the way, Mr. William T Haas. What's up dude? What's up man.
1:29Speaker 3give that to them to test as we tour through and videotape. And I'm 99% sure we're allowed to videotape because he told me that other people do. And then by the time our tour is done, he'll be able to have analyzed that test and-
1:43Speaker 2yeah, us how it's done. Yeah. So we should hopefully, if anybody's listening, that's in that area by chance or know somebody, are going to be hiring a videographer
1:52Speaker 2that's in that area so that we can, you know, not have our phones like, Hey, you know, somebody doing it for us. If
2:00Speaker 2he does let us, but I'm sure he will, but, yeah, we can record it and could have put out some good content.
2:08Speaker 2guys that have paved the way for all these other companies doing it. The guys that do it the best,
2:13Speaker 3how they, how they work. What did he say? 40,000 square feet, something like that. Yeah. It's huge. The thing that stuck in my head, our biggest problem is opening. Get 1000 samples a day, right? So thousand boxes from people.
2:25Speaker 3If you guys ever opened like Amazon packages, or if you have a business where you get some shipments in and you imagine
2:37Speaker 3like a full time job. Yeah. You're a box cutter. Then Box opener. Yeah. You're a boxer. And then organizing all that. Like, dude, that's crazy.
2:45Speaker 3I don't even want to think about it. We have to do some complex organization, what we think, but like that
2:54Speaker 3Yeah. So if you wonder why COAs are taking a long time, that's why. In fact, like everybody is backed up with
3:05Speaker 3with this 1 company BioRegen, which we've used, they're like, Nope, we're not accepting any new,
3:10Speaker 3we're not accepting any new samples. We're too backed up. I tried to introduce some friends who have a
3:16Speaker 3different company and to a different lab and they said, yeah, great. Thanks for the introduction, but just hope your friends don't want any results fast because
3:51Speaker 2If you remember correctly on that podcast, and if you didn't see it, go back and watch it because it was awesome. He wasn't too worried about the endotoxins.
3:58Speaker 2He was worried about it being what you ordered. So if you order a Retatrutide and it'd be nothing. And he'd said that he had seen that more than ever, which was, you know, not a concern of anything bad except for the fact that it's not what it is, which obviously is a problem, but you know, so. Right. I mean, shoot, like in my history, I've been ordering this stuff for 10 years probably
4:25Speaker 3of the 1st time of like a new supplier, tried to order from, right. I'd say about 25% of the time
4:38Speaker 3under dose stuff or it's, or there's like 0. I can't tell you how many tests we've sent in that said, there is no, there is none of this substance there. Cool.
4:53Speaker 2Yeah, it's a problem. Again, it's not anything except for this is the way this is where it's at right now. This industry is evolving and it's going to continue to evolve. I think some of those people are going to be gone in the future and whatever
5:05Speaker 2I was telling Will this before we started recording that, my wife was talking with 1 of her friends and, know, she was asking if she, if her getting a Retatrutide,
5:35Speaker 2just think like that, you know, like, and then he ended up giving her a test and it was like about a year old and all that stuff. So,
5:49Speaker 2comfortability with that? Do you want to go super cheap and hope to God you get what you get?
5:55Speaker 2Or do you want to spend a couple extra bucks from a company that triple tests? Oh, and you know that you're getting it, that's on you. Like you do you, but that's what's out there and that's legit. You want to spend a little extra money and know that you're getting what it is and it's tested,
6:29Speaker 3has always, she doesn't eat that. She just like works all the time. She drinks too much coffee and
6:34Speaker 3doesn't eat enough food and has like, has gut problems because of that, like almost like frozen gut. So she's like the last person that needs to be on a GLP-one,
6:49Speaker 3has like early onset, like COPD from smoking cigarettes for her whole life. So I am giving her, I'm giving her
7:00Speaker 3KPV and Thymosin Alpha. Okay. KPV for the gut Thymosin Alpha, actually for the COPD, they've done some studies on there just saying that, that, they've seen some significant progress
7:11Speaker 3And the BPC TB for her arthritis for her actually to inject directly into that shoulder,
7:17Speaker 3and to make it easy on her because she's old and honestly like mixing the bottles is the hardest part for her because she's like kind of shaky. So
7:25Speaker 3folks, this is what I'm actually going to do to her. If you don't like it, that's okay. Then don't do it. But, I know this, this works. I do this for myself a lot. So what I have is 2 bottles of Thymosin Alpha.
7:37Speaker 3I know you can't really see them, but 2 bottles of Thymosin Alpha, 10 mg, 2 bottles of KPV, 10 mg, and a BPC plus TB 530
7:46Speaker 3mg, and 30 mg. I've already put the water in here, okay, for each of these. I put 1 mil
7:52Speaker 3of water in the BPC TB blend and then 0.5 of a mil in each 1 of these really just to get the powder to fully mix. So then I can mix them together all in 1.
8:05Speaker 3I will, I will do this and hopefully this is not going to take too long. Got to add some air 1 into the bottle. You don't know that you need to add air or it will not suck it Or it will not suck it up. These are usually like vacuum sealed. So
8:25Speaker 3you don't want to dull the needle and you go, Oh darn it. I put it in there, but I don't care. Cause we're not injecting with this needle. So I'm adding another mil of air.
8:34Speaker 3And then I'm basically just gonna pull I'm basically just pulling out every little bit of all of these vials. Okay? So I put in kind of minimum I'm I'm the goal was to put mixed everything with 3 mils total. So I want all of these mixed in 3 mils of liquid total.
8:55Speaker 3this extra bigger bottle, like a 5 mil bottle, you know? So, but you can, I mean, you can use a leftover,
9:21Speaker 2because I don't want this to take up all this time. Yeah. But you just showed it. That's good. So to answer your questions, if you can't mix compounds,
10:22Speaker 2Yeah. Well, as Willis said, countless times that it's not the units. People ask how many units it is the milligrams and the water towards the milligrams for what you need to inject.
10:33Speaker 2You'll, everybody catches up to that whenever they're, they catch up to that. You get it once you've been doing it a little while. And I think the easiest way to do it is like, do it based upon what works for you. So like me, I always try to like cut down my time and me doing it that way works. If you're somebody that is just headstrong on it, doesn't work to mix them. That's cool too. Just do that. But for anybody to say they know definitively whatever, like that's, you know, just do you if you want to do it that way, because you think it doesn't work cool, then do it that way. But if somebody wants to do it opposite, you don't need to try to talk them into your right. I will say also when mixing these like this, okay, what are the precautions here? This is for my family member, and so I'm not doing this in a clean room. Yeah. You know, if this were,
11:17Speaker 3like any bottles that are to be sold, you would expect like a lab be doing this in a clean room under sterile
11:24Speaker 3But also when I'm transferring the liquid, you just kind of want to be gentle with it. I'm not just pulling it out as fast as I can and then blasting it in. These peptides actually are a bit sensitive.
11:40Speaker 3Styrofoam cold box because I'm mixing them and now they got to get shipped to her and she needs to use them. I will ask her to use them within 30 days because she's doing an injection every day for 30 days.
11:57Speaker 3So that's it. I'll show you guys what the, what the finished product looks like. Well, obviously too, after
12:03Speaker 2he's doing this for his mom, his mom's older and it's going to be a pain in the butt for her to do what he's doing exactly.
12:13Speaker 2And secondly, if you just kind of think again, logically, it's his mother, so you're obviously going to know he's going to take care of his mother and he's not going to do anything to harm her. No, no. I, because I'm not that worried about the sterile condition neither she is. She, because we're using bacterial static water,
12:27Speaker 3right? Which has got mensol alcohol in it and I'm not worried. It's really just to protect the peptide and not protect you from bacterial infection.
12:37Speaker 3Yeah, but everything has been sterilized before this, so we're good. Alright, dude, you wanna read, you wanna start off on number 1? We'll start us off on number 1. Alright.
13:02Speaker 2I have lost 15 pounds and feeling great. Do you guys see a lower response to Retatrutide in women versus men? That's actually a great question. Yeah. Wife
13:39Speaker 2My wife stays active around the house and outside with the kids. Food noise is what she struggles with the most. Do you recommend she go back to Tirzepatide,
14:28Speaker 2just, start her off. So you lose like 80% of your, your weight. You're going to lose really quickly. So I think, you know, you're getting, you've both tasted that so sweetly. Like, you know, you lost a lot of weight and then you hit the, hit the last
14:42Speaker 210% or so that you want to get off. And that's not as easy. It's just not. So it's not necessarily there's Zepatide or the Retatrutide.
14:49Speaker 2We all know that Retatrutide is a superior product. That's been definitely proven over and over again.
14:55Speaker 2And you just started it, you know? So it's working for you. Is there a difference between men and women? Not necessarily.
15:02Speaker 2We're all different. You know, women are always going to react to things a little bit different in men. You know,
15:07Speaker 2It's always, I think a little bit easier for men to lose weight. Not always, but a lot of time.
15:15Speaker 2just go slow, man. Like you guys are doing great. That's a lot of weight that you have lost. A 100 pounds plus. I mean, geez, let's focus on the wins 1st right now. I know you want to lose the rest of it, but again, that's the harder part. You know, it's kind of just melted off you at this point. Now for your bride, the 1st thing that jumped out at me is she's chasing the kids around. That's awesome. She's at home. The food noise is a pain in the butt. So what I would do
15:43Speaker 2just is get rid of any type of food that's going to tempt her. When I'm at home on the weekends, it's harder for me to fast because I'm at home, there's food there and I'm pretty disciplined. So like how I would do it is I would take out the food that I would want to eat. So maybe try that.
15:57Speaker 2And brother, you need to let Brad know that she got, she has to throw in some resistance training. Like that's just a given. All of us need to do that. So I know chasing the kids around, I watched my bride do it, but it's not resistance training. So what I'm thinking she's probably going on is she's not eating enough.
16:16Speaker 2That's what happens. And then it starts to be a mind F so to speak to where you're not losing enough. So you start to think that you need to eat less or maybe she isn't, maybe the Retatrutide is working and you don't think it's working. So like she's not eating enough. So I'm
16:31Speaker 2going to go online and think, I think that's probably her problem. She probably needs to eat more because she's absolutely stopping her metabolism.
16:39Speaker 2So I would just make sure right when she wakes up, she eats protein, especially you women eat enough protein,
17:05Speaker 2But you can, I mean, let's start to work on some things that she has control over? Resistance training, eating enough protein
17:22Speaker 2And we can also start to throw in some other products that will start to, you know, give her some more energy and whatnot, which is going to be NAD, which most people should be taking NAD.
17:35Speaker 2people that had lost a lot of weight, you're going to have some gut problems. It's just the way it is. So let's throw in some KPV into that too.
17:43Speaker 2Even if you don't think you have some gut problems, you probably do. Most of us do. It's just the way it is.
17:52Speaker 2add in resistance training, eat enough protein and add in some Tesamorelin and some KPV and NAD. I think you'll be golden.
18:18Speaker 3muscle and losing weight. Right? Like we can just, it just happens really fast and easy for us.
18:24Speaker 3Right. Like you women are supposed to have like 10% higher body fat percentage because you need to have babies. But so, so yeah.
18:32Speaker 3Yes, this thing's usually worked better for men, but also, I mean, she's lost a 100 pounds. Right? Right. Lost a ton of weight. Okay. Yeah.
18:44Speaker 3dude, that's really, and that's pretty damn fast. That's a lot. The wife lost 2 pounds and she's feeling blah. Well, I mean, she's already lost a ton of weight. Her, her metabolism now was way slower probably because she hasn't been eating any food at all. Right? She's burned off a lot of muscle guaranteed in that 100 pounds. It wasn't all fat. So her metabolism is now re is really slow and this is just like a post weight loss plateau.
19:10Speaker 3She can't keep up with this rate of weight loss or she'll just freeze or starve to death and be dwindled away to nothing. So
19:33Speaker 22 mg. I was seeing 1, 2 mg total. So that makes sense. So is it 6 mg total? Yeah, that would make sense. That's how I would read it. And I think,
19:57Speaker 3A, because it cuts out all the nausea, so that food noise, the people's the food noise,
20:03Speaker 3is we don't feel that because of tirzepatide because it actually makes you a little nauseous. You don't really know that you're not throw up nauseous, but you're kind of queasy enough to just not be hungry and not want to eat. That's gone from the Retta because it takes all of the nausea away. So use a little bit of no skills for now. You could bump it up to 7 megs, 7.5. Like that's okay. Wouldn't, you know, max, I'd say 10 megs of Retta, but I wouldn't, I would try not to do that. Know, I would try to institute some everything that JD said
20:36Speaker 3Yeah, these little no skills, maybe add Cagrilintide in there. If we're worried about, if we're worried about just that food noise, that's a good 1 to just add in, but
20:47Speaker 3that's completely normal. She's kicked ass and just like it is what it is. She needs to start adding some muscle. Yeah.
21:06Speaker 3now's the time, right? She spent, spent a time with, with a good crutch and still on a crutch and that's okay. That's totally okay. But
21:18Speaker 2it needs to be redundant. It just says, like, the goal is not to inject something forever. It's just not the goal. The goal is to set the base and get better at the eating part. If you struggle with the food noise, well, work on it. We all struggle. Like we all deal with that struggle at night. I'm the munchies at night. Like,
21:35Speaker 2if I want to be ripped, I can't eat the munchies at night, even though I see my kids all gnawing on some ice cream and stuff. I'm like, dude, that looks good, dude. Like I gotta tell myself no. And like when you start saying no to yourself, when you really want it badly, that's called empowerment. And like, when you taste what empowerment feels like, it actually better than ice cream, because you're like, dude, you just, it lifts you up. So I know that takes a little while to do, but like, that's the goal to lay the base to where you are completely changed woman and we're not injecting something forever to lose the weight. So that's the goal. Yep. Right on. Now
22:09Speaker 3little update. So this, I have not crimped the top on, but this is me putting it into a 4 mil bottle. Right? All now mom just has to go in and pull 10 units out and give it to her all at once. If you guys have never seen this happen before,
22:27Speaker 3This is basically the only way that you can actually crimp this bottle top on, but it is as simple as this.
22:52Speaker 3Not ice. We're not trying to freeze it, but I just want to keep it cool. TA 1 KPV and Wolverine.
23:03Speaker 3Good. Now I guess I'm kind of lost on which question which question in my Man, appreciate you both.
23:19Speaker 3love to hear your thoughts on long term peptide storage. K? I typically buy bulk and have stuff on deck that won't be used for about 6 months. For the peptides that aren't currently in rotation, it won't be used for a while. I've heard that freezing and non reconstituted
23:35Speaker 3peptides helps with preservation of shelf life better than simply refrigerating them. Can you please let me know your thoughts and what you guys would do in this situation? Thanks.
23:56Speaker 3right, or longer, that might make a difference. But if you're talking 6 months to a year refrigerating,
24:03Speaker 3they're not going to be preserved like, I don't know, measurably better at all by freezing them.
24:14Speaker 3you definitely run the risk of having moisture in there. Okay? And that is your worst enemy. That's like the fastest way to degrade your peptide is get, is have moisture get in there. So I think that you are running a higher risk by freezing them than you would be just keeping them in the refrigerator. Yeah. And keep them in the like crisper drawer,
24:57Speaker 2them and thaw them. We've heard about people doing that. That's bad. You're definitely going to get some,
25:17Speaker 2A 3 year old daughter trained weights 3 to 4 times training weights 3 to 4 times a week, Pilates,
25:33Speaker 2My main focus and struggle is energy. I always, I'm always tired and fatigued no matter what I do or how much I sleep. And I struggle with mood, stress, anxiety,
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27:13Speaker 3because your growth hormone levels aren't aren't aren't as high as men. And so this can,
27:18Speaker 3raise them a bit higher and allow you to add muscle better than a man because your bodies are so sensitive.
27:34Speaker 3I don't know. Would do like SLU-three 32. It's just kind of a fight. It'll help your performance and nutrient
27:51Speaker 3dives. You don't eat it really does work, man. It works. It keeps your brain just like fresh and running really well, even in the absence of food. But see Selank,
28:05Speaker 3even mixed with Semax, which gives you energy, but like not really anxiety energy, but most more like focused energy.
28:19Speaker 2I would suggest getting blood work done, right? Let's start there and just like, make sure your hormones are good. I know that that's super young, but in this age, I wouldn't be surprised if they're a little at a walk, you know, a little wonky. So start there. It's not going to be a bad thing. Right?
28:32Speaker 2And I wouldn't think it's kind of the same as the gal above, which is you're probably not eating enough. My bride works out hard. She does. And I tell her all the time, baby, you eat more. You know, and it's not about skinny. It's about, you need to have the nutrients to do what you're doing. If you're tired, you probably don't have nutrients, enough nutrients in you. And that's probably your problem. So I'd wake up and have protein, you know, get 50, 50 g of protein, right? When you wake up, Greek yogurt protein,
28:57Speaker 2like 2 scoops of protein, boom, done. Got like 60 grams of protein right there. Done. It's so easy. You know? So that's what I would do blood work in that.
29:09Speaker 2Now, peptide wise, we already nailed it. Selank, Cmax, those are going be good for anxiety and focus. I'll throw some NAD in there because NAD is amazing.
29:21Speaker 2and you know, you probably know me by now enough to know that I'm all about meditation
29:25Speaker 2and focusing like that, you know, and just really kind of getting back to some of that stuff. Like a good practice that I try to do, at least I'm good in the morning is not looking at my phone right away. That's going to keep your cortisone at least a little bit down,
29:43Speaker 2because you want to really fix that cortisol. Cortisone is a bitch, you know? And if you're running high on cortisol, you're screwed. It's just, you're screwed. So we need to get, make sure that you, you, work on that.
29:54Speaker 2A lot of people have read some stuff on cortisol. We don't have copy for the 1st hour of,
29:59Speaker 2of you waking up. I don't know. I just read it. I don't know if it's true or not. Maybe look into that a little bit, but, yeah, meditation.
30:20Speaker 2don't need to lose weight. But yeah, I'm sure you agree. I bet she's not eating enough. Yeah, I bet she's not. It's really that simple. Think you eat more food, you got those new, you know, those nutrients in you. Women
30:30Speaker 2struggle with this so much more, you know? And I feel sorry for you ladies, because this is truth. You think you need to do cardio and you think that's the way to the gold mine when it's not, it's resistance training and it's eating. You need to eat more protein with like a gram of protein per your body weight. It doesn't have to be exact obviously, but why don't you try that for a month? Just
30:49Speaker 2try that. Just add 1 g of protein, eat more. I bet you have fixes most of those problems. You're 24. Yep. Try that.
31:10Speaker 3pounds down from 2 15. Good job. Testosterone was at 3 15, but now at 5 75 and going up.
31:18Speaker 3When I discovered peptides, I want you guys to know how amazing it was to have your podcasts in school community and keep me informed and allow me to take, take the right steps and
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32:22Speaker 3the Retta, if you can do it at a small dose where it's not taking your appetite away, like, I know I mean, this you can eat. You can eat and add perfect lean muscle. You can eat enough to add muscle. You need to be at a surplus of calories and make it because of protein only.
32:40Speaker 3you can do it with Retta. Now I would say like if somebody's looking for like a giant bulk,
32:45Speaker 3no, we I don't I wouldn't do Retta because it's going to slow down your gastric emptying to make it to do a giant bulk,
32:51Speaker 3need to eat and eat, eat, eat, have big meals, stretch your stomach out so your body can just take in more and more nutrients.
32:57Speaker 3That will be a problem on Retta. But if we're trying to add just like really good, perfect, just lean muscle,
33:11Speaker 3it's absolutely doable. Up to you though. Gotta be better be eating enough protein. Yep. Eat protein. Shoot.
33:16Speaker 3Do that muscle optimization stack and set your goal for 2 g per pound of body weight. You're
33:25Speaker 3set your goal for that. It's gonna be really hard to do, but, and you'll need to have some protein shakes,
33:31Speaker 3if if you get close to that, you'll be sitting pretty. And again, why don't we look out and look out for your nails, right? If you're 1 way to judge you eating enough protein is if your nails are growing way too fast and your hair is growing too fast, you know that your body is growing new tissue. So you lifting weights and making your muscles sore, that's your telling body, Hey, grow tissue right there. So
33:53Speaker 2yeah, what you got? At the late great rich Bian, I would say, if you want to get big, you gotta eat big. 11. You used to say that, but that's the truth. True bulk
34:02Speaker 2means, let's say you have a ripped stomach. You shouldn't really have a ripped stomach, but
34:06Speaker 2like, cause you're eating a lot, if that's truly what you're trying to do. So you just need to eat and then eat and then eat. And that's just the way it is. So Retta will block that. So there's easier ways to do it. If again, you want to like be
34:23Speaker 2then you can do the Retta because there's a lot of body builders that are taking Retta because it will, you'll eat a little bit less. So it really depends on what your true objective is. You said bulk. So we'll go off that.
34:32Speaker 2I would take the Retta out just to make it easier on you. I mean, shoot dude, you can take the red out and put it in some MCA-six, 7, 7. Will be hungry like a beast.
34:42Speaker 2I, for some reason, wasn't never struggled with it until the last times I ran it and I was like, dude, I cannot stop eating. You know what I mean? Like, I don't like to be super big. I like to be more lean and cut. So it
34:51Speaker 2really, really boils down to your true objectives, which you can look bigger and cut and lean. Retta, you can put in or take out the Retta, use AOD,
35:10Speaker 2So again, the MK-six 77, that 1 is great. I love it. Oh, you, he said he's going to do those stacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going be doing the stacks. You're going to be, you're going to need to eat, you need to eat and you need to like just replenish those muscles and you need to live heavy, dude. Lift heavy, lift heavy, eat a lot. Take out the red in my protein.
35:34Speaker 3you should have your 3 basic meals, right? Get yourself, if you're a man, a grown man trying to grow, sure. Eat 50, 50 g of protein for your, and have it breakfast, lunch, dinner. Okay. And then the goal would be adding in 2 or 3 more supplementation
35:50Speaker 3Call them protein shakes, that's great. But like post workout, a 100% do that, do that, do that. Right? As soon as you start tearing muscle down, right? Clock is ticking and
35:59Speaker 3muscles are trying to absorb building materials. And if you don't feed them building materials, they just start eating themselves.
36:06Speaker 3And that's counterproductive what you're trying to do. So post workout and there is a clock from that time that you start working out, they do say like 45 minutes. Right? And that's not from the end of workout. That's from when we 1st like tear the 1st muscle.
36:18Speaker 3But there's kind of an optimal growth window after that of maybe 4 or 5 hours. But so post, so shake post workout and then right before bed, for sure.
36:36Speaker 2Yeah. And you want to do less carbs at night. And if you're going to use carbs the right way, which most people do,
36:45Speaker 2and, you will replenish your glycogen and that is the way that you wanna do it, but not at night because
36:51Speaker 3you don't wanna Carbs at night because like, what's the point? Like, your carbs turn turn into sugar
36:56Speaker 3and that then is ready for your body to burn it off for, you know, doing activities. So if you eat carbs at nighttime, guess what? They're going to take, if it's food, they'll probably take, you know, 2 hours or so to break down, finally turn into sugar when you're asleep
37:11Speaker 3and you ain't burning that off. So now it's going to just store on you and be like, well, if we're not going to use it now, let's just store this, let's convert to fat and let's store on him later for later use. That's exactly the opposite, which you don't, what you want for bulking to cool. Eat some carbs before
37:28Speaker 3like intra carbs before or intra workout. Now be aware folks, if you're trying to burn fat,
37:35Speaker 3if you have carbs on board, burn the carbs, your body will burn the carbs 1st. It will not touch your fat. It will burn those 1st. That's its fastest, easiest preferred energy choice.
37:53Speaker 2veins popping. You know, it just depends. It all depends really truly. There is a science to it without a doubt.
37:59Speaker 2I'm a guy that's always in a carnivore and like, you know, in the last 6 months I've toyed around with adding in some more carbs and man, I've got some insane pumps.
38:08Speaker 2But my objective now is I've just dropped the carbs again. Cause I like to be super lean. You drop carbs, you're going be a lot more lean. If you want to get bigger,
38:25Speaker 3Huge. You can have 1 person who eats the same amount of carbs and another person and the timing is completely different. 100%. They're not producing completely
38:57Speaker 3like, I don't know, your belly. Like, we don't be aiming for the same hole that you did last time. Right? Exact same hole. Right? Like, there's plenty of rotation needed. The goal is to go about 2 inches anywhere from your belly button. Right? Circle 2 inches around us where that's the goal.
39:17Speaker 3it's not any absorption benefit from doing there. Now let's do it in a different sub Q area. Will work just fine unless you have 3 scar tissue that you have created in there,
39:26Speaker 3which it will eventually. Like, don't just do the same right side over and over and over again. Will. Especially if you've reused a needle. Like I have, like, early in my I mean, I used to, like, use the same insulin needle for 5 days in a row. End of the street.
39:42Speaker 3you'll know if it's kind of hard to push in. Yeah. It's like, it's because and it's just not gonna absorb. It'll probably screw it out too, so it's just not soaking in. There is a difference between
39:55Speaker 3if you, well, inject fast and also really lean people. If you don't have any fat and you pull it out and you go truly into your sub q layer, that's gonna hit you a lot faster
40:29Speaker 3of feels really weird putting it right into the tendon. Don't hit a vein. Don't do that. Yep. Yeah. I would definitely switch around,
40:42Speaker 2Listen, if you, you need to start moving that sucker around and you don't want to go fast
40:47Speaker 2because you need to give it some time to get in and like soak through your body to, you get 1 of those PIP, you know, like it's good, squirt it in, you get a big ball. Yeah. You need to go slow.
40:56Speaker 2So I didn't know that always, so I'm passing on to you. And so you don't get a lot of PIP and have to figure it out. Do that stuff right before you go move around. Right? Last thing you wanna do is inject something then just lay there. Yeah. For sure. Just
41:12Speaker 2finger in your knuckle in there, rub it out, and then go go run around. Know, do is I have 1 of those little massagers now, because like I would get, I would just prone to PIP. I've just been injecting, you know, TRT for a long time. And I go, I just,
41:26Speaker 2it works well, man. Haven't had it since. It's been working. You should probably do that beforehand too. Just get ready. Yeah. But like the injection, like speed is important.
41:34Speaker 3Yeah, it is. It is important. I actually, in fact, I will do some medicines, my skin I'll, I'll put the thing in, I'll inject it all. And then I'll usually like pull it halfway out and sit and let the skin close-up behind it
41:51Speaker 3Mark tricks of the trade man. And heat up the oil. That too. I've never been a problem. I never had problems with PIP though. I mean, I've had it from like, but from, like, obviously, for somebody who's I've done, like, test e 500. Oh. Right? Like It's brutal. Brutal.
42:16Speaker 3single Esther because it hurts like hell. So they we figured it out like what the right dosages are. So don't,
42:24Speaker 2yeah, that's good to like even talk about because we've about it so much, but like it's important. Like there's a reason why testes like 300 and test zip is 200. You can see 2 50. It should really be properly dosed around 200. We think, you know, like test p is, 100. 100. Yep. Maybe 1 50, but 100. So there's a reason these are Yep. Because Absolutely. That's There's a 100% reason for the reason that you're you don't make test e 500 or don't make usually, it's like if they if they're just dosed way too dense,
42:56Speaker 3Yep. For sure. Alright. Yeah. I am hopefully, I'm on the right question. So hi. I'm a 30 year old female. No. Hi, guys. Love the podcast. I'm 38 year old former army. Oh, no. Did we read that? No. No. We did Good. I'm on the right spot. The next 1. Hi. We did that 1 last week. So if that was you, we're not skipping you.
43:23Speaker 31 year, currently on 5 mg a week. My starting weight was 87 kg. I lift weights or do cardio 6 times a week and eat healthy, gain weight and muscle easy, and I have visible
43:37Speaker 3I'm looking to lose the last stubborn 5 kg as I've been stuck at 64 kg for several months. I also have a bit of loose skin on my belly and above my knees, and that bothers me and might be the reason why despite my age,
43:51Speaker 3my weight loss, I don't feel like I see any changes on my body. I've added now Retta 1 mg per week, and I can see that my body pooch has reduced. I'm thinking to increase Retta and finally dropped her zepatide, but I need to help optimize my stack in terms of helping me stay lean and lose the last 5 kg and help me with my skin.
44:29Speaker 3skin on my knees, but whatever. It happens, I guess. But Khloe. So Khloe will give you GHK-two,
44:38Speaker 3In fact, all of those will help to tighten your skin and, like you BPC and TB, right, creating new new blood vessels in your in even in your dermis layers, that's going to help it get more blood and heal and tighten up and grow back faster. But the GHK-3CU
45:08Speaker 3put it on any type of any loose skin or, or skin issues of any kind. Right? Especially like even, hell, even, like the chest
45:43Speaker 3And so you can kind of, you can see how that goes, but you'll should be able to lose this 5 kg very easily.
45:57Speaker 2You're saying it was a lot. You've lost a lot. So, you know, I think that you should, pat yourself on the back. And again,
46:03Speaker 2you know, the 1st weight is always easier is to lose. You know, the 1st 80% give or take goes quickly for most, obviously not all of them for most. And then they go boom. Yep.
46:24Speaker 2Think logically, think about what we always talk about here's your base. Are you eating enough?
46:30Speaker 2Right? More protein, right? When you wake up ladies, again, 50 grams of protein, easy peasy, Greek yogurt, 2 scoops of protein, done.
46:38Speaker 2You start your day off, right? Make sure you're adding that in, eat a lot and, Lift weights. Yeah, lift weights. Get the base again, be patient. You're doing, you're kicking ass. Like, you know, like I think Retatrutide
46:58Speaker 2not going to move mountains. We need to have some patience and like, you don't want to lose all the weight so fast. Anyway, it's, there's gonna be some health stuff with that. So you're doing good. You can add in some Tesamorelin
47:17Speaker 2And 1 that's what I would do. Bet you need to eat more, need to eat more pretain and lift some weights, bro. I would add Tesamorelin in. It does. Great. Ipamorelin.
47:31Speaker 33 months, it's really going to target that belly fat and keep muscle on you, put muscle, keep muscle, which boosts your metabolism,
47:40Speaker 2Well, she says I lift weights or do cardio 6 times a week. So I would lift weights. Yeah, I would lift weights and maybe cardio twice,
47:47Speaker 3maybe 3 times a week. Or at the end of it, like, here's a trick folks. It's like cardio. So
47:52Speaker 3if you're sprinting, we're playing basketball and your heart rate's like over above above, like, 80% of your max heart rate, That's true cardio,
48:02Speaker 3building. That is actually helps your heart. K? It's the only thing that's the only way that it's gonna help your heart. Like, a slow jog or a fast walk
48:09Speaker 3is optimal like fat burning, but it's actually not doing anything to help this heart muscle. Right?
48:17Speaker 3a suggestion is do 10 minutes or something on a stair stepper. Right? Get your sweat going and get your heart rate elevated,
48:24Speaker 3and then hit the weight room and keep that heart rate elevated in the cardiovascular zone. Right? Go for 40 minutes or so, and then finish with 10 minutes. And now you have
48:47Speaker 2I have ran through every episode and can officially say I'm a peptide addict now. Awesome. That's right. Appreciate
49:02Speaker 2for 10 weeks, lost 12 pounds. That's awesome. At low dose, I have absolutely loved the results and I'm going to be transitioning to Retta at the end of the life cycle to continue the cut.
49:13Speaker 2My main question is getting a peptide protocol for gaining muscle on a bulk this winter.
49:23Speaker 2TRT free and growth hormone are basically all in line. I love it. Above average and I feel great. Awesome. That's huge. There you are. But,
49:31Speaker 2that being said, I want to gain about 5 to 8 pounds over the winter and keep it mainly muscle without anabolics.
49:40Speaker 2Would you continue Reta on a bulk and what else would I add in addition to keep a lean bulk? Thanks, guys.
49:57Speaker 2that's awesome. You obviously think through this. I mean, let's get to the basics of some obvious,
50:02Speaker 2You want to add in some creatine for a bulk, you know, again, we've said this in your sign of peptides aren't where they're going to be anywhere near gear. So IGF-1LR3,
50:11Speaker 2you know, we're going to hear that now. I've done it both before and after. I can't say I've nearly noticed much. I like to take it right after I lift.
50:20Speaker 2I come back, I take a creatine HCL in the morning. And then after I lift, I'd come home and come home. I come back to the office here and take some creatine monohydrate,
50:32Speaker 2And I think that's, that's great. It works well for me. Now, again, your bulk gotta eat,
50:59Speaker 2If you're, you said that you're, you're good in regards to the growth hormone, you're 34 or so, but you can HGH
51:05Speaker 2and IGF-one there's people that have been, you can take them both. Yeah, you can, not in perpetuity, but, IGF-one will be closest thing you're going to get towards gear,
51:15Speaker 2now, and you want to, if you're going to be eating, you want to, you can add in the, like we said, last time, MK-677,
51:34Speaker 2right before gear. And it's because you eat a lot and your muscles just look full. So I would definitely try that. I like it. I think it's great. AOD-five amino S SLU-PP-three
51:48Speaker 2and, you know, you you take some of these other ones to take out some Retta, you'll get
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53:02Speaker 2there's a science to it like we were talking about. So you're on your way, man. Hope that helps. Yep.
53:07Speaker 3Yes, I agree with everything. Look, dude, you cool. If you don't want to do antibiotics right on good to you. But you will not get, if you want anabolic results,
53:24Speaker 3the next best closest thing. It's not a peptide, right? It is, I guess, it's not a SARM either, but like
53:58Speaker 3And maybe take a look at that. It's in BIP, right? It's in the premium. Premium. So we have school that's free and then you get a ton of information just on that. So we're not trying to sell you when I say this. Then we got a 25
54:09Speaker 3a month and then a VIP, which is 60 a month. It's just, we give more information. It takes a lot of time to do this stuff, dude. So that's why we charge. So
54:22Speaker 3Like, don't, I don't, I don't feel bad whatsoever charging because it's like, it's true. There's a lot of good information and it's not that much money.
54:34Speaker 3No, I am. Think it's you. Alright. Hey guys, I'm 45 and went from 207 to 181 in 90 days.
54:47Speaker 3200 grams of carbs around training and 2,000 to 2,500 calories depending on activity. Current stack TRT, 200 megs a week, Retatrutide
55:10Speaker 3My blood work improved so much that my doctor joked about wanting the same stack after reviewing my labs. That's
55:19Speaker 3like JD, when he went to his doctor for the 2nd time, we getting his wife pregnant. And he said,
55:54Speaker 3you sound like kind of what I would take in my philosophy, which means probably because you listened to this. Yeah.
56:20Speaker 3I frankly would say, I don't know, choose either or. Yeah. Like, what do feel better? You know, I've seen, I know that there's protocols at 5 Migs once a week. And the reason that
56:30Speaker 3that can be a problem is I have lots of people have reported taking 5 mg of MOTS-1C at 1 time just makes them kind of feel not very good, a little hypertensive, like you took some pre workout. Yeah.
56:42Speaker 3So- I don't think that's the best approach. I don't think it's the best way. I don't know. I think, yeah, I think, I think
56:49Speaker 3you know, consistent dosing is a better idea. So either way, dude, I think you're on the right track. Everything else is awesome. And hell yes to the last 1. Is, that's the, that's the long term goal. That's
57:07Speaker 3hard work and 1 eat and eat right. Which the Reta will force you. 45 dude. You can't do, dude. You just keep Your stuff. You're obviously studied. You pay attention and you
57:17Speaker 3sound like we'd be sitting here and like having a good conversation with you. I would try Tesofensine though. I just, I like it. I would, I like, dude, you're experiencing, like you're, you're practicing.
58:00Speaker 2you know, go down the line and there'll be more studied, obviously these answers are going to come and they're going to be more definitive. But again, if you have somebody, this is how it is, listen,
58:18Speaker 2I've been liking it 1st. You probably heard. I love it. I think it's great. Now, the only difference is
58:31Speaker 2tell anybody to take it if I was worried in any way, because obviously Will and I are both sober. We both take it. That's
59:04Speaker 3it's not food noise in general. And I guess I've never been a big from noise problem, but like it's, it's those like high sugar
59:12Speaker 3spike foods. You don't need it anymore. They don't frigging just, they just don't do it for me if I'm on Tesvinci and I don't eat them anymore because
59:20Speaker 2I tried them and I'm like, yeah, it's just doesn't really isn't nearly as good as I remember. Yeah. So if you get that, that's rad. I don't get that. I wish I got that. Can I have some? I
59:32Speaker 2don't get that, but there you go. You're not going to know unless you try it. Tesofensine is great. It's amazing. Try that 5 Amino.
59:43Speaker 2TRTH GH occasional read out. That's probably will be my go to forever, forever till it did, till I can't do it anymore. Perfect. A lot of hard work and a lot of saying no to yourself.
59:56Speaker 2Warriors, thank you for everything you do. This is the last question, by the way. I have a buddy who suffers from Crohn's and hates the meds he's prescribed. He's through 30 to 40 pounds overweight,
1:00:25Speaker 2I ain't gonna hurt to try the injection too. I've got a lot of gut problems. I do both.
1:00:35Speaker 3It's great. Yeah. I mean, that's what they're there for. That's, that's literally like,
1:00:49Speaker 3leaky gut, etcetera. There's actual research there. So for sure you're on the right track, do it. And so the people when it comes to that stuff,
1:01:11Speaker 2a lot of people ask myself when I, before I started doing it, I thought I was going to have a really hard time with it because it's really mainly meat and eggs. And I was like, dude, can I, that's all I can eat, even though I love those 2 foods?
1:01:31Speaker 2somebody ran into the wall, add them in a little bit, by 1, after you feel like you've rebooted your, your stomach,
1:01:37Speaker 2then you can kind of start to see the ones that really agitate you. So that takes discipline, but that's the best way you could probably do it and adding some fasting in because you're, don't need to eat constantly.
1:01:52Speaker 2I know that's hard because we've been told you need to eat every 2 hours and all that stuff where,
1:01:56Speaker 2your body needs time to not eat because when you're bringing energy, when you, when you're doing, you have to digest
1:02:02Speaker 2and it's great to give yourself a day off. I know that sounds crazy, but until you do it, you're like, I feel freaking amazing. Right? Yeah. It's really important. I mean, it is really like, yes, where our body gets,
1:02:18Speaker 3of food, right? You can see it in gaining some like water excess holding onto water rate. You know, you do a fast for a day,
1:02:27Speaker 3and your liver finally gets a chance. When it has in the absence of it having to do a job,
1:02:33Speaker 3finds something to do and that is clean itself out. And that's super important. The liver is
1:02:39Speaker 3the most important. 1 of the most important organs, I mean, brain I don't if the brain's an organ, but, heart's pretty important. But liver is really just the most functional,
1:02:52Speaker 3I mean, it's the thing that decides what's good protein, what's bad, like what's what are good fats, what's bad fats? If that's all clogged up and constantly beat up and overworked, you're gonna
1:03:02Speaker 2not have good results. Yeah. We, we it's a peptide podcast and you know, most people now are listening. I fell in love with peptides just as we did, you know? And I love that, but don't ever forget about some of the bases of just what God gave us, which is fasting,
1:03:28Speaker 3they work well, man. Probably the most effective supplement of all time is caffeine. I mean, I think hands down is caffeine.
1:03:36Speaker 3Like it literally numbs pain. It makes you smarter. It makes your brain work faster. Right?
1:03:42Speaker 3It reduces your appetite. It makes you burn your thermogenic state and makes your, your metabolism go up because your heart's beating a little bit faster. Yeah. We
1:03:51Speaker 3just are so used to it all day long every day, but it's probably the most effective supplement ever created. Another good 1 for stomach that I've been reading on recently is,
1:04:01Speaker 2baking soda. I'm gonna take a shot of baking soda. It's good for stomach. And I've had some really bad cough crap that I've been dealing with forever. I've been studying and studying and studying, trying to figure this sucker out and stumbled upon some stuff and some studies with that and like, man,
1:04:21Speaker 2Epsom salt every night. Got a picture I'm gonna post to my son, saw me soaking my feet in the bathroom and he's like, what? Like my 2 year old and like he comes in and claws, sticks with me, but it
1:04:37Speaker 2lot. I think my feet would my feet could probably use that. You need to do it as fat as hot as you can take, which I'm pretty good with that stuff. I've been doing it every night and dude, I'm not kidding you. It it at the very least,
1:04:59Speaker 3you heard it? There's a name for this, but I forget who it is. Just giving yourself a good, like just through your teeth and
1:05:06Speaker 3but it needs to be, like, unrefined. I was like, well, I'll just use the Miglol eat, but, no, it needs to be unrefined
1:05:12Speaker 3olive oil. Into that. I know. So, yeah, look into that. There is a name for it. I also I I definitely brush my teeth and probably, well, I brush my teeth, folks.
1:05:23Speaker 3floss comes I floss all the time now. I did not as a younger man, but I wash my mouth out with hydrogen peroxide. I just drink some of the hydrogen peroxide. Do not drink it.
1:05:32Speaker 3Just swish your mouth out. And that stuff, that just kills everything in your mouth. It's fine. Try it. And brush your teeth with a baking soda. That too. Have you done that? No, but I think most toothpaste is made with baking soda. Like don't use that charcoal.
1:05:46Speaker 2toothpaste. Apparently like doesn't do anything for you. Stuff though. Like, again, there's so many like
1:05:52Speaker 2stuff that like we just have that like, you know, we've been pulled this way because
1:05:57Speaker 2people want to sell product, which I'm not ever knocking anybody selling a product. It's great. But like there's some old remedies dudes with just literally taking your feet and walking on the grass. Like you've connected to the energy of the earth. Know it sounds woo woo, but it's true. Right?
1:06:28Speaker 2pull some people over and market a little bit because we were a little worried at 1st. But now we're doing some marketing and like people are coming over and they love it. So you hear people even talking on here. It's you can do the free 1. We don't care if you do the upgrades. We don't, we really don't. The, the, the, the team of people out there that we have cultivated
1:06:47Speaker 2all of us together has been truly amazing. They lift each other up. They help each other. You know, if there's anybody being
1:06:57Speaker 2lifting each other. Here's how you do this. This is what I tried. Such a community. It's about, what do we have? Like 12, 13000 people here now and growing like, so jump on there. You
1:07:07Speaker 2have a lot of good information that we give you for free. Make sure you click on classroom. There's a ton of stuff right there. A lot of people don't click around. And then we do have 2 upgrades that
1:07:17Speaker 225 and a 30 or 60. And the reason that we do that is because that's the stuff that takes a long time. And even the 60, we've done some stuff that we've been asked for. Well, and I talked about a steroid cycle that he, and it's not because we're advocating for steroids,
1:07:31Speaker 2we're asked. So we just do that to try to give the people, then the questions that we get, what they want.
1:07:42Speaker 2We're both really good at like what we do. He's really good at like the organization and keeping everything. This place is dope because of this guy.
1:07:54Speaker 3That's why we charge for certain things. But other than that, it's dope jump on there. We would love to see on there, man. Yep, absolutely. And we have a lot of, a lot of our answers and different protocols come from not only just our minds, but these guests that you guys have all seen, right? With, from Josh Holyfield to Trevor,
1:08:17Speaker 2a lot of those answers. Yeah. We on the complex ones consult with, with those guys, different doctors, etcetera. So we're always going to improve because that's who Will and I are in our team of a lot of people, both we've had numerous people that are some big wigs in the industry. They left here, they sent us some praises of our team that were just like, guys' team is just amazing because they are. We truly have hearts to serve and
1:08:46Speaker 2And that is amazing. And we're gonna have doctors on. We have another gal coming on, Tiffany, who's coming on at the end of the month, who is going to be kind of like Doctor. Scott, really about gut health and
1:08:57Speaker 2hormone replacement for you ladies. She's gonna be really into that. And just some other doctor Chestnut. If anybody follows him, my wife sent me him. We reached out and he's wanted to come on and he's huge, like huge. And
1:09:12Speaker 2on getting better people on here because we love learning from them. You know, like we're all under construction.
1:09:25Speaker 2no, we, that we are constantly learning. We're just trying to give you guys the best information. And that's been a blessing to be able to have this podcast to have people that want to come on. So 0 And a potential
1:09:49Speaker 3yeah, we'll probably have a vet here to talk about pets and, and, you know, what are some potential
1:09:56Speaker 2and potential things that might be in the future horizon. Rad. Yeah. Other than that, we will catch you on the next round. Take care. Good night.