Peptide Q&A #50 – Women on Retatrutide, Bulking Stacks, Crohn's Protocol & Mixing Peptides
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1:05  Speaker 2:  Welcome back to the peptide of the week podcast. I'm your host JD denim across the way, Mr. William T Haas. What's up dude? What's up man.
1:14  Speaker 2:  Big going
1:16  Speaker 2:  on. You got your weekend with your fam,
1:18  Speaker 2:  which is that. And then we go to Prague. It's fine. That'd be fun. Visit Janosik.
1:23  Speaker 3:  And I
1:25  Speaker 3:  think that we'll like bring them maybe a sample or something like that and
1:29  Speaker 3:  give that to them to test as we tour through and videotape. And I'm 99% sure we're allowed to videotape because he told me that other people do. And then by the time our tour is done, he'll be able to have analyzed that test and-
1:43  Speaker 2:  yeah, us how it's done. Yeah. So we should hopefully, if anybody's listening, that's in that area by chance or know somebody, are going to be hiring a videographer
1:52  Speaker 2:  that's in that area so that we can, you know, not have our phones like, Hey, you know, somebody doing it for us. If
2:00  Speaker 2:  he does let us, but I'm sure he will, but, yeah, we can record it and could have put out some good content.
2:06  Speaker 2:  Not only us, but you can kind of see how
2:08  Speaker 2:  guys that have paved the way for all these other companies doing it. The guys that do it the best,
2:13  Speaker 3:  how they, how they work. What did he say? 40,000 square feet, something like that. Yeah. It's huge. The thing that stuck in my head, our biggest problem is opening. Get 1000 samples a day, right? So thousand boxes from people.
2:25  Speaker 3:  If you guys ever opened like Amazon packages, or if you have a business where you get some shipments in and you imagine
2:31  Speaker 3:  taking the box cutter and opening 1000 boxes every day. So it's like, that's
2:37  Speaker 3:  like a full time job. Yeah. You're a box cutter. Then Box opener. Yeah. You're a boxer. And then organizing all that. Like, dude, that's crazy.
2:45  Speaker 3:  I don't even want to think about it. We have to do some complex organization, what we think, but like that
2:51  Speaker 3:  is super and that's daily, right? Those things just start compounding.
2:54  Speaker 3:  Yeah. So if you wonder why COAs are taking a long time, that's why. In fact, like everybody is backed up with
3:02  Speaker 3:  doing their COAs. We,
3:04  Speaker 3:  know
3:05  Speaker 3:  with this 1 company BioRegen, which we've used, they're like, Nope, we're not accepting any new,
3:10  Speaker 3:  we're not accepting any new samples. We're too backed up. I tried to introduce some friends who have a
3:16  Speaker 3:  different company and to a different lab and they said, yeah, great. Thanks for the introduction, but just hope your friends don't want any results fast because
3:24  Speaker 3:  we're way behind. Yeah. So
3:26  Speaker 3:  yeah, it's hot right now. Guess the analytical
3:29  Speaker 1:  lab testing. It's popping. It's popping.
3:32  Speaker 3:  We, cause, cause what we do, have,
3:35  Speaker 3:  we send stuff in, you know, a lot to get tested and,
3:39  Speaker 3:  yeah, we send it into 3 different labs constantly
3:43  Speaker 3:  and
3:44  Speaker 3:  we think that's a lot of work
3:47  Speaker 2:  and it is, but poor Janice is sure.
3:51  Speaker 2:  If you remember correctly on that podcast, and if you didn't see it, go back and watch it because it was awesome. He wasn't too worried about the endotoxins.
3:58  Speaker 2:  He was worried about it being what you ordered. So if you order a Retatrutide and it'd be nothing. And he'd said that he had seen that more than ever, which was, you know, not a concern of anything bad except for the fact that it's not what it is, which obviously is a problem, but you know, so. Right. I mean, shoot, like in my history, I've been ordering this stuff for 10 years probably
4:20  Speaker 3:  from China. And I'd say about 25%
4:24  Speaker 3:  now
4:25  Speaker 3:  of the 1st time of like a new supplier, tried to order from, right. I'd say about 25% of the time
4:30  Speaker 3:  it is what it is, what it says it is. And it's like the fully dosed. I mean, 75%
4:36  Speaker 3:  of the time they're
4:37  Speaker 3:  giving me either
4:38  Speaker 3:  under dose stuff or it's, or there's like 0. I can't tell you how many tests we've sent in that said, there is no, there is none of this substance there. Cool.
4:49  Speaker 3:  Yeah. So,
4:51  Speaker 3:  hence the problem.
4:53  Speaker 2:  Yeah, it's a problem. Again, it's not anything except for this is the way this is where it's at right now. This industry is evolving and it's going to continue to evolve. I think some of those people are going to be gone in the future and whatever
5:05  Speaker 2:  I was telling Will this before we started recording that, my wife was talking with 1 of her friends and, know, she was asking if she, if her getting a Retatrutide,
5:14  Speaker 2:  it was like $60 for 30 mg was odd. And my wife starts laughing like
5:20  Speaker 2:  that's odd. Yes, it's not. It's not
5:24  Speaker 2:  Think about it like, just like just stop for a 2nd and think logically. There's
5:28  Speaker 2:  no chance mathematically
5:30  Speaker 2:  they've tested that product. It's not mathematically possible. So therefore
5:35  Speaker 2:  just think like that, you know, like, and then he ended up giving her a test and it was like about a year old and all that stuff. So,
5:42  Speaker 2:  listen, you're injecting it into your body.
5:45  Speaker 2:  You can, what's your, what is your threshold of
5:49  Speaker 2:  comfortability with that? Do you want to go super cheap and hope to God you get what you get?
5:55  Speaker 2:  Or do you want to spend a couple extra bucks from a company that triple tests? Oh, and you know that you're getting it, that's on you. Like you do you, but that's what's out there and that's legit. You want to spend a little extra money and know that you're getting what it is and it's tested,
6:09  Speaker 2:  or do you want to spend $60 and hope it is what it is?
6:15  Speaker 3:  So before things warm up too much, I actually wanted to start off with
6:20  Speaker 3:  people ask us this question all the time about like mixing peptides together.
6:24  Speaker 3:  My mother who is like 80,
6:27  Speaker 3:  right? Has arthritis
6:29  Speaker 3:  has always, she doesn't eat that. She just like works all the time. She drinks too much coffee and
6:34  Speaker 3:  doesn't eat enough food and has like, has gut problems because of that, like almost like frozen gut. So she's like the last person that needs to be on a GLP-one,
6:43  Speaker 3:  but has gut issues and also just had shoulder surgery
6:48  Speaker 3:  and
6:49  Speaker 3:  has like early onset, like COPD from smoking cigarettes for her whole life. So I am giving her, I'm giving her
6:58  Speaker 3:  BPC and TB 500 blend
7:00  Speaker 3:  KPV and Thymosin Alpha. Okay. KPV for the gut Thymosin Alpha, actually for the COPD, they've done some studies on there just saying that, that, they've seen some significant progress
7:11  Speaker 3:  And the BPC TB for her arthritis for her actually to inject directly into that shoulder,
7:17  Speaker 3:  and to make it easy on her because she's old and honestly like mixing the bottles is the hardest part for her because she's like kind of shaky. So
7:25  Speaker 3:  folks, this is what I'm actually going to do to her. If you don't like it, that's okay. Then don't do it. But, I know this, this works. I do this for myself a lot. So what I have is 2 bottles of Thymosin Alpha.
7:37  Speaker 3:  I know you can't really see them, but 2 bottles of Thymosin Alpha, 10 mg, 2 bottles of KPV, 10 mg, and a BPC plus TB 530
7:46  Speaker 3:  mg, and 30 mg. I've already put the water in here, okay, for each of these. I put 1 mil
7:52  Speaker 3:  of water in the BPC TB blend and then 0.5 of a mil in each 1 of these really just to get the powder to fully mix. So then I can mix them together all in 1.
8:03  Speaker 3:  And
8:05  Speaker 3:  I will, I will do this and hopefully this is not going to take too long. Got to add some air 1 into the bottle. You don't know that you need to add air or it will not suck it Or it will not suck it up. These are usually like vacuum sealed. So
8:19  Speaker 3:  even that wasn't enough air.
8:22  Speaker 3:  And in this purposes, normally
8:25  Speaker 3:  you don't want to dull the needle and you go, Oh darn it. I put it in there, but I don't care. Cause we're not injecting with this needle. So I'm adding another mil of air.
8:34  Speaker 3:  And then I'm basically just gonna pull I'm basically just pulling out every little bit of all of these vials. Okay? So I put in kind of minimum I'm I'm the goal was to put mixed everything with 3 mils total. So I want all of these mixed in 3 mils of liquid total.
8:51  Speaker 3:  I'm going to put them in this bigger bottle. Now I'm lucky enough to have
8:55  Speaker 3:  this extra bigger bottle, like a 5 mil bottle, you know? So, but you can, I mean, you can use a leftover,
9:05  Speaker 3:  you can use a leftover
9:07  Speaker 3:  bottle if you'd like to, like a 3 mil 1? Sure. Cause this, it would work,
9:13  Speaker 3:  but maybe we,
9:15  Speaker 3:  maybe I'll do this behind the scenes as we,
9:19  Speaker 3:  as we talk real quick,
9:21  Speaker 2:  because I don't want this to take up all this time. Yeah. But you just showed it. That's good. So to answer your questions, if you can't mix compounds,
9:28  Speaker 2:  there's a lot of compounds that are already mixed. So that's just stopping using logic
9:32  Speaker 2:  should tell you that they're mixing them together for a reason.
9:36  Speaker 3:  Exactly. And then basically guys, say here's the point is I have,
9:41  Speaker 3:  now I have all of these, which will be like 30 mg of BPC, 30 mg TB 520
9:46  Speaker 3:  mg of KPV, and 20 mg of thymosin alpha, right,
9:50  Speaker 3:  mixed in 3 mils of water. So now my instructions to her is you draw 10 units and
9:58  Speaker 3:  that will give you 1 mg of BPC, 1 mg TB, 0.66
10:03  Speaker 3:  mg of KPV and 0.66 mg of
10:06  Speaker 3:  TA 1 and do that daily. That's right. That's what I'm telling her to do.
10:12  Speaker 3:  And therefore she just pulls 10 units and
10:15  Speaker 3:  I'm going have her put it in her shoulder because that's what,
10:19  Speaker 3:  because post surgery, that's the best place for it.
10:22  Speaker 2:  Yeah. Well, as Willis said, countless times that it's not the units. People ask how many units it is the milligrams and the water towards the milligrams for what you need to inject.
10:33  Speaker 2:  You'll, everybody catches up to that whenever they're, they catch up to that. You get it once you've been doing it a little while. And I think the easiest way to do it is like, do it based upon what works for you. So like me, I always try to like cut down my time and me doing it that way works. If you're somebody that is just headstrong on it, doesn't work to mix them. That's cool too. Just do that. But for anybody to say they know definitively whatever, like that's, you know, just do you if you want to do it that way, because you think it doesn't work cool, then do it that way. But if somebody wants to do it opposite, you don't need to try to talk them into your right. I will say also when mixing these like this, okay, what are the precautions here? This is for my family member, and so I'm not doing this in a clean room. Yeah. You know, if this were,
11:17  Speaker 3:  like any bottles that are to be sold, you would expect like a lab be doing this in a clean room under sterile
11:23  Speaker 3:  conditions.
11:24  Speaker 3:  But also when I'm transferring the liquid, you just kind of want to be gentle with it. I'm not just pulling it out as fast as I can and then blasting it in. These peptides actually are a bit sensitive.
11:36  Speaker 3:  Once I get done with this, then they go on ice
11:39  Speaker 3:  in a
11:40  Speaker 3:  Styrofoam cold box because I'm mixing them and now they got to get shipped to her and she needs to use them. I will ask her to use them within 30 days because she's doing an injection every day for 30 days.
11:52  Speaker 3:  Cause the clock does start ticking once you mix.
11:55  Speaker 3:  Okay.
11:57  Speaker 3:  So that's it. I'll show you guys what the, what the finished product looks like. Well, obviously too, after
12:03  Speaker 2:  he's doing this for his mom, his mom's older and it's going to be a pain in the butt for her to do what he's doing exactly.
12:09  Speaker 2:  So again, it's just simplifying
12:11  Speaker 2:  her life.
12:13  Speaker 2:  And secondly, if you just kind of think again, logically, it's his mother, so you're obviously going to know he's going to take care of his mother and he's not going to do anything to harm her. No, no. I, because I'm not that worried about the sterile condition neither she is. She, because we're using bacterial static water,
12:27  Speaker 3:  right? Which has got mensol alcohol in it and I'm not worried. It's really just to protect the peptide and not protect you from bacterial infection.
12:37  Speaker 3:  Yeah, but everything has been sterilized before this, so we're good. Alright, dude, you wanna read, you wanna start off on number 1? We'll start us off on number 1. Alright.
12:47  Speaker 2:  Alright.
12:48  Speaker 2:  What's up fellas? Wife, 31 years old, five'two,
12:52  Speaker 2:  and I, 31 years old, six'one,
12:56  Speaker 2:  switched to Retatrutide
12:57  Speaker 2:  2 months ago. She has lost 2 pounds feeling bleh.
13:02  Speaker 2:  I have lost 15 pounds and feeling great. Do you guys see a lower response to Retatrutide in women versus men? That's actually a great question. Yeah. Wife
13:11  Speaker 2:  is 2 point, so wife is 2 Migs a week,
13:16  Speaker 2:  Monday, Wednesday, Friday. So I'm assuming that's 2 full megs.
13:20  Speaker 2:  You didn't read that as 6 megs. Did you know 2 megs a week total to me 1.5
13:25  Speaker 2:  megs Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Again, I'm assuming that's just total of 1.5 megs.
13:30  Speaker 2:  A wife wants to lose 30 to 50 pounds
13:34  Speaker 2:  and I want to lose 20 pounds while getting rid of my man boobs.
13:39  Speaker 2:  My wife stays active around the house and outside with the kids. Food noise is what she struggles with the most. Do you recommend she go back to Tirzepatide,
13:49  Speaker 2:  Tirzepatide journey? She started in
13:53  Speaker 2:  4 of 20 25, so April 2025, all the way to April
13:58  Speaker 2:  2026.
13:58  Speaker 2:  So 1 full year,
14:00  Speaker 2:  she went from 300 pounds down to 2 0 5 pounds. Wow. That is a lot of weight. Awesome.
14:06  Speaker 2:  Yeah. And then for him, he,
14:10  Speaker 2:  he was at 7.5
14:11  Speaker 2:  megs weekly
14:13  Speaker 2:  and, he went from 3 45
14:16  Speaker 2:  down to 2 40. Wow. That is just amazing. And he was taking a 5.5
14:21  Speaker 2:  weekly.
14:22  Speaker 2:  God bless you both.
14:25  Speaker 2:  So you want me to take this or you go
14:28  Speaker 2:  just, start her off. So you lose like 80% of your, your weight. You're going to lose really quickly. So I think, you know, you're getting, you've both tasted that so sweetly. Like, you know, you lost a lot of weight and then you hit the, hit the last
14:42  Speaker 2:  10% or so that you want to get off. And that's not as easy. It's just not. So it's not necessarily there's Zepatide or the Retatrutide.
14:49  Speaker 2:  We all know that Retatrutide is a superior product. That's been definitely proven over and over again.
14:55  Speaker 2:  And you just started it, you know? So it's working for you. Is there a difference between men and women? Not necessarily.
15:02  Speaker 2:  We're all different. You know, women are always going to react to things a little bit different in men. You know,
15:07  Speaker 2:  It's always, I think a little bit easier for men to lose weight. Not always, but a lot of time.
15:13  Speaker 2:  So just know that and
15:15  Speaker 2:  just go slow, man. Like you guys are doing great. That's a lot of weight that you have lost. A 100 pounds plus. I mean, geez, let's focus on the wins 1st right now. I know you want to lose the rest of it, but again, that's the harder part. You know, it's kind of just melted off you at this point. Now for your bride, the 1st thing that jumped out at me is she's chasing the kids around. That's awesome. She's at home. The food noise is a pain in the butt. So what I would do
15:43  Speaker 2:  just is get rid of any type of food that's going to tempt her. When I'm at home on the weekends, it's harder for me to fast because I'm at home, there's food there and I'm pretty disciplined. So like how I would do it is I would take out the food that I would want to eat. So maybe try that.
15:57  Speaker 2:  And brother, you need to let Brad know that she got, she has to throw in some resistance training. Like that's just a given. All of us need to do that. So I know chasing the kids around, I watched my bride do it, but it's not resistance training. So what I'm thinking she's probably going on is she's not eating enough.
16:16  Speaker 2:  That's what happens. And then it starts to be a mind F so to speak to where you're not losing enough. So you start to think that you need to eat less or maybe she isn't, maybe the Retatrutide is working and you don't think it's working. So like she's not eating enough. So I'm
16:31  Speaker 2:  going to go online and think, I think that's probably her problem. She probably needs to eat more because she's absolutely stopping her metabolism.
16:39  Speaker 2:  So I would just make sure right when she wakes up, she eats protein, especially you women eat enough protein,
16:46  Speaker 2:  get in some resistance training.
16:49  Speaker 2:  Now the, to your question, should you go back to his appetite?
16:53  Speaker 2:  I don't think so. No.
16:55  Speaker 2:  Retatrutide is just a superior product. Now, if she in her head
17:00  Speaker 2:  can't get that out, you can, you've had success. You can, I wouldn't recommend it?
17:05  Speaker 2:  But you can, I mean, let's start to work on some things that she has control over? Resistance training, eating enough protein
17:12  Speaker 2:  and,
17:13  Speaker 2:  really focusing on that diet.
17:16  Speaker 2:  We can add in some Tesamorelin,
17:18  Speaker 2:  so that will help on some of that belly fat on the bottom.
17:22  Speaker 2:  And we can also start to throw in some other products that will start to, you know, give her some more energy and whatnot, which is going to be NAD, which most people should be taking NAD.
17:32  Speaker 2:  I read to that Tesamorelin and most
17:35  Speaker 2:  people that had lost a lot of weight, you're going to have some gut problems. It's just the way it is. So let's throw in some KPV into that too.
17:43  Speaker 2:  Even if you don't think you have some gut problems, you probably do. Most of us do. It's just the way it is.
17:47  Speaker 2:  So that's what I would recommend. I would stay on the Retta, just be patient,
17:52  Speaker 2:  add in resistance training, eat enough protein and add in some Tesamorelin and some KPV and NAD. I think you'll be golden.
17:58  Speaker 3:  Yeah.
17:59  Speaker 3:  So I 2nd everything that you just said, but
18:02  Speaker 3:  yes,
18:03  Speaker 3:  I would say that,
18:05  Speaker 3:  okay, look at every other supplement and men's and
18:09  Speaker 3:  forget supplement, just exercise. Like how do men's bodies respond to things
18:13  Speaker 3:  versus women?
18:14  Speaker 3:  Like, I'm sorry ladies, but like men, we just have such an easier time gaining
18:18  Speaker 3:  muscle and losing weight. Right? Like we can just, it just happens really fast and easy for us.
18:24  Speaker 3:  Right. Like you women are supposed to have like 10% higher body fat percentage because you need to have babies. But so, so yeah.
18:32  Speaker 3:  Yes, this thing's usually worked better for men, but also, I mean, she's lost a 100 pounds. Right? Right. Lost a ton of weight. Okay. Yeah.
18:42  Speaker 3:  I don't know. Yeah,
18:44  Speaker 3:  dude, that's really, and that's pretty damn fast. That's a lot. The wife lost 2 pounds and she's feeling blah. Well, I mean, she's already lost a ton of weight. Her, her metabolism now was way slower probably because she hasn't been eating any food at all. Right? She's burned off a lot of muscle guaranteed in that 100 pounds. It wasn't all fat. So her metabolism is now re is really slow and this is just like a post weight loss plateau.
19:09  Speaker 3:  It just happens.
19:10  Speaker 3:  She can't keep up with this rate of weight loss or she'll just freeze or starve to death and be dwindled away to nothing. So
19:20  Speaker 3:  I
19:21  Speaker 3:  would just stay the course.
19:23  Speaker 3:  You also had her on taking 7.5 megs of tirzepatide
19:26  Speaker 3:  and now she's taken 6 megs of Retta,
19:30  Speaker 3:  I believe. 2 mg 3 times a week,
19:33  Speaker 2:  2 mg. I was seeing 1, 2 mg total. So that makes sense. So is it 6 mg total? Yeah, that would make sense. That's how I would read it. And I think,
19:42  Speaker 3:  which is a lot, but it's still about equal to the tirzepatide.
19:46  Speaker 3:  I mean, you're taking a 6 mg of Retta and you were taking 7.5 mg of Tirz.
19:51  Speaker 3:  So I
19:53  Speaker 3:  wouldn't expect you to have the same, like, feeling as tirzepatide.
19:57  Speaker 3:  A, because it cuts out all the nausea, so that food noise, the people's the food noise,
20:02  Speaker 3:  right, usually
20:03  Speaker 3:  is we don't feel that because of tirzepatide because it actually makes you a little nauseous. You don't really know that you're not throw up nauseous, but you're kind of queasy enough to just not be hungry and not want to eat. That's gone from the Retta because it takes all of the nausea away. So use a little bit of no skills for now. You could bump it up to 7 megs, 7.5. Like that's okay. Wouldn't, you know, max, I'd say 10 megs of Retta, but I wouldn't, I would try not to do that. Know, I would try to institute some everything that JD said
20:33  Speaker 3:  1st before we increase the dose.
20:36  Speaker 3:  Yeah, these little no skills, maybe add Cagrilintide in there. If we're worried about, if we're worried about just that food noise, that's a good 1 to just add in, but
20:47  Speaker 3:  that's completely normal. She's kicked ass and just like it is what it is. She needs to start adding some muscle. Yeah.
20:52  Speaker 3:  Done. Deal. Add muscle, eat protein, lifting weights
20:55  Speaker 3:  and stay the course and maintain
20:57  Speaker 3:  her. You know, we want, there needs to be some degree of saying no discipline,
21:03  Speaker 3:  discipline, right? And
21:06  Speaker 3:  now's the time, right? She spent, spent a time with, with a good crutch and still on a crutch and that's okay. That's totally okay. But
21:13  Speaker 3:  they're taking a little bit of the crutch off. Yeah. So again, like,
21:18  Speaker 2:  it needs to be redundant. It just says, like, the goal is not to inject something forever. It's just not the goal. The goal is to set the base and get better at the eating part. If you struggle with the food noise, well, work on it. We all struggle. Like we all deal with that struggle at night. I'm the munchies at night. Like,
21:35  Speaker 2:  if I want to be ripped, I can't eat the munchies at night, even though I see my kids all gnawing on some ice cream and stuff. I'm like, dude, that looks good, dude. Like I gotta tell myself no. And like when you start saying no to yourself, when you really want it badly, that's called empowerment. And like, when you taste what empowerment feels like, it actually better than ice cream, because you're like, dude, you just, it lifts you up. So I know that takes a little while to do, but like, that's the goal to lay the base to where you are completely changed woman and we're not injecting something forever to lose the weight. So that's the goal. Yep. Right on. Now
22:09  Speaker 3:  my
22:09  Speaker 3:  little update. So this, I have not crimped the top on, but this is me putting it into a 4 mil bottle. Right? All now mom just has to go in and pull 10 units out and give it to her all at once. If you guys have never seen this happen before,
22:23  Speaker 3:  most people probably don't have this laying around at home.
22:27  Speaker 3:  This is basically the only way that you can actually crimp this bottle top on, but it is as simple as this.
22:34  Speaker 3:  Squeeze
22:36  Speaker 3:  it together and kinda like rotate it, make sure it's all tightened on there.
22:40  Speaker 3:  Make sure it's not loose. And now you have a perfect vial. Blended peptide.
22:46  Speaker 3:  Blended peptide at home.
22:48  Speaker 3:  Doable. Now we need to just put this on ice.
22:52  Speaker 3:  Not ice. We're not trying to freeze it, but I just want to keep it cool. TA 1 KPV and Wolverine.
22:59  Speaker 2:  It. That was a great stack right there. Okay.
23:03  Speaker 3:  Good. Now I guess I'm kind of lost on which question which question in my Man, appreciate you both.
23:08  Speaker 3:  K. Me find out. That was question 7 somehow that I missed.
23:13  Speaker 3:  The 1 that you read was okay. Here we go. Amen.
23:16  Speaker 3:  Appreciate you both and never miss this show. I'd
23:19  Speaker 3:  love to hear your thoughts on long term peptide storage. K? I typically buy bulk and have stuff on deck that won't be used for about 6 months. For the peptides that aren't currently in rotation, it won't be used for a while. I've heard that freezing and non reconstituted
23:35  Speaker 3:  peptides helps with preservation of shelf life better than simply refrigerating them. Can you please let me know your thoughts and what you guys would do in this situation? Thanks.
23:44  Speaker 3:  Alright.
23:45  Speaker 3:  Yes. I I have an opinion on this. So honestly,
23:48  Speaker 3:  the
23:49  Speaker 3:  you freeze them,
23:51  Speaker 3:  that might preserve them a little bit better if we're talking, like, 2 years,
23:56  Speaker 3:  right, or longer, that might make a difference. But if you're talking 6 months to a year refrigerating,
24:03  Speaker 3:  they're not going to be preserved like, I don't know, measurably better at all by freezing them.
24:10  Speaker 3:  When you freeze something
24:12  Speaker 3:  and
24:13  Speaker 3:  thaw it,
24:14  Speaker 3:  you definitely run the risk of having moisture in there. Okay? And that is your worst enemy. That's like the fastest way to degrade your peptide is get, is have moisture get in there. So I think that you are running a higher risk by freezing them than you would be just keeping them in the refrigerator. Yeah. And keep them in the like crisper drawer,
24:34  Speaker 3:  which is less humid.
24:37  Speaker 3:  Think so. Yes. Less humid.
24:39  Speaker 3:  In the crisper drawer,
24:41  Speaker 3:  dude, 6 months, you're just fine. I'd keep in the fridge and it's totally fine.
24:46  Speaker 2:  And you want to do it for tears. Just curious to why.
24:49  Speaker 3:  Yeah, right. Like you don't need to stock up that much for your tears.
24:53  Speaker 2:  So yeah. I mean, again, you definitely don't want to freeze them and then thaw them,
24:57  Speaker 2:  them and thaw them. We've heard about people doing that. That's bad. You're definitely going to get some,
25:02  Speaker 2:  something in there. So
25:04  Speaker 2:  hope that helps my turn, right? Yep.
25:06  Speaker 2:  Hey
25:07  Speaker 2:  guys,
25:08  Speaker 2:  I have a quick question.
25:10  Speaker 2:  Firstly, absolutely love the podcast. Big fan. I'm 24 year old female from Australia.
25:17  Speaker 2:  A 3 year old daughter trained weights 3 to 4 times training weights 3 to 4 times a week, Pilates,
25:23  Speaker 2:  other 4, 3 to 4 times.
25:26  Speaker 2:  I weigh roughly 48 to 52 kg.
25:31  Speaker 2:  I try not to weigh myself too often.
25:33  Speaker 2:  My main focus and struggle is energy. I always, I'm always tired and fatigued no matter what I do or how much I sleep. And I struggle with mood, stress, anxiety,
25:43  Speaker 2:  high cortisol, and always been anxious and quick to snap.
25:49  Speaker 2:  She's honest. I've
25:50  Speaker 2:  done quite a few different peps, but wanting to know what is the absolute best stack.
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26:53  Speaker 2:  For me, and what Peps would be the waste of time for people my age?
26:58  Speaker 2:  She's 24.
27:00  Speaker 3:  So,
27:01  Speaker 3:  I mean, I do think that- So pedagogue? I think the pedagogues
27:05  Speaker 3:  is kind of a waste,
27:08  Speaker 3:  Although especially for men, but for women, they do
27:13  Speaker 3:  because your growth hormone levels aren't aren't aren't as high as men. And so this can,
27:18  Speaker 3:  raise them a bit higher and allow you to add muscle better than a man because your bodies are so sensitive.
27:25  Speaker 3:  But I would say that's a waste. I would add 30 years old. I mean,
27:30  Speaker 3:  I'd probably say like 24 loop or 24 shoot.
27:33  Speaker 3:  Yeah.
27:34  Speaker 3:  I don't know. Would do like SLU-three 32. It's just kind of a fight. It'll help your performance and nutrient
27:40  Speaker 3:  partitioning and preserving muscle.
27:43  Speaker 3:  Retta maybe low, low, low dose
27:45  Speaker 3:  to take away your hangry
27:47  Speaker 3:  snapping
27:48  Speaker 3:  people
27:49  Speaker 3:  and
27:51  Speaker 3:  dives. You don't eat it really does work, man. It works. It keeps your brain just like fresh and running really well, even in the absence of food. But see Selank,
28:00  Speaker 3:  you said you struggle with anxiety.
28:02  Speaker 3:  Selank
28:03  Speaker 3:  is a really good peptide for that
28:05  Speaker 3:  even mixed with Semax, which gives you energy, but like not really anxiety energy, but most more like focused energy.
28:12  Speaker 3:  I don't know.
28:14  Speaker 3:  Yeah. What else? I think, I
28:16  Speaker 2:  mean, even though you're 24,
28:19  Speaker 2:  I would suggest getting blood work done, right? Let's start there and just like, make sure your hormones are good. I know that that's super young, but in this age, I wouldn't be surprised if they're a little at a walk, you know, a little wonky. So start there. It's not going to be a bad thing. Right?
28:32  Speaker 2:  And I wouldn't think it's kind of the same as the gal above, which is you're probably not eating enough. My bride works out hard. She does. And I tell her all the time, baby, you eat more. You know, and it's not about skinny. It's about, you need to have the nutrients to do what you're doing. If you're tired, you probably don't have nutrients, enough nutrients in you. And that's probably your problem. So I'd wake up and have protein, you know, get 50, 50 g of protein, right? When you wake up, Greek yogurt protein,
28:57  Speaker 2:  like 2 scoops of protein, boom, done. Got like 60 grams of protein right there. Done. It's so easy. You know? So that's what I would do blood work in that.
29:07  Speaker 2:  I bet you that's going to fix a lot of it.
29:09  Speaker 2:  Now, peptide wise, we already nailed it. Selank, Cmax, those are going be good for anxiety and focus. I'll throw some NAD in there because NAD is amazing.
29:18  Speaker 2:  And that's going to give you some cellular energy
29:21  Speaker 2:  and you know, you probably know me by now enough to know that I'm all about meditation
29:25  Speaker 2:  and focusing like that, you know, and just really kind of getting back to some of that stuff. Like a good practice that I try to do, at least I'm good in the morning is not looking at my phone right away. That's going to keep your cortisone at least a little bit down,
29:39  Speaker 2:  walking outside on the grass with your shoes off, some just old school stuff,
29:43  Speaker 2:  because you want to really fix that cortisol. Cortisone is a bitch, you know? And if you're running high on cortisol, you're screwed. It's just, you're screwed. So we need to get, make sure that you, you, work on that.
29:54  Speaker 2:  A lot of people have read some stuff on cortisol. We don't have copy for the 1st hour of,
29:59  Speaker 2:  of you waking up. I don't know. I just read it. I don't know if it's true or not. Maybe look into that a little bit, but, yeah, meditation.
30:06  Speaker 3:  I think that'll work. Don't take Retta. I just realized you're like kilograms,
30:10  Speaker 3:  right? So you say you're fluctuating like about 90,
30:14  Speaker 3:  9 pounds. So when I said Retta before, I wouldn't,
30:20  Speaker 2:  don't need to lose weight. But yeah, I'm sure you agree. I bet she's not eating enough. Yeah, I bet she's not. It's really that simple. Think you eat more food, you got those new, you know, those nutrients in you. Women
30:30  Speaker 2:  struggle with this so much more, you know? And I feel sorry for you ladies, because this is truth. You think you need to do cardio and you think that's the way to the gold mine when it's not, it's resistance training and it's eating. You need to eat more protein with like a gram of protein per your body weight. It doesn't have to be exact obviously, but why don't you try that for a month? Just
30:49  Speaker 2:  try that. Just add 1 g of protein, eat more. I bet you have fixes most of those problems. You're 24. Yep. Try that.
30:58  Speaker 2:  Who's that?
30:59  Speaker 3:  I am.
31:01  Speaker 3:  Is this JD and big Will? Yeah. JD and Big Will, what's up? My brothers.
31:06  Speaker 3:  32 years old,
31:08  Speaker 3:  Pizza Man from New York. Yeah. 185
31:10  Speaker 3:  pounds down from 2 15. Good job. Testosterone was at 3 15, but now at 5 75 and going up.
31:18  Speaker 3:  When I discovered peptides, I want you guys to know how amazing it was to have your podcasts in school community and keep me informed and allow me to take, take the right steps and
31:27  Speaker 3:  taking peptides. I started taking 1 mg of Retta 3 times a week. So 10 units,
31:33  Speaker 3:  Tesamorelin
31:35  Speaker 3:  25,
31:36  Speaker 3:  Ipah 5,
31:39  Speaker 3:  units
31:40  Speaker 3:  maybe units. Anyway, mixed with 3 mils of backwater
31:45  Speaker 3:  5 times a week and 10 units of Clo mixed with 2 mils of backwater
31:49  Speaker 3:  5 times a week. So for my question, I signed up for the premium membership and will be starting the muscle optimization stack right on.
31:58  Speaker 3:  So I was wondering if I can still run Reta at a low dose while
32:02  Speaker 3:  doing this, or can I switch from Reta to Tesofensine,
32:05  Speaker 3:  500 micrograms,
32:07  Speaker 3:  and
32:09  Speaker 3:  we'll be adding SLU-fifty
32:11  Speaker 3:  mg tablets to would that be too much?
32:16  Speaker 3:  Okay.
32:18  Speaker 3:  If you I mean, honestly,
32:20  Speaker 3:  like,
32:22  Speaker 3:  the Retta, if you can do it at a small dose where it's not taking your appetite away, like, I know I mean, this you can eat. You can eat and add perfect lean muscle. You can eat enough to add muscle. You need to be at a surplus of calories and make it because of protein only.
32:38  Speaker 3:  You,
32:40  Speaker 3:  you can do it with Retta. Now I would say like if somebody's looking for like a giant bulk,
32:45  Speaker 3:  no, we I don't I wouldn't do Retta because it's going to slow down your gastric emptying to make it to do a giant bulk,
32:51  Speaker 3:  need to eat and eat, eat, eat, have big meals, stretch your stomach out so your body can just take in more and more nutrients.
32:57  Speaker 3:  That will be a problem on Retta. But if we're trying to add just like really good, perfect, just lean muscle,
33:03  Speaker 3:  it's,
33:04  Speaker 3:  it's doable
33:06  Speaker 3:  with Retta, not a high dose. I wouldn't take any more than you are right now, but,
33:11  Speaker 3:  it's absolutely doable. Up to you though. Gotta be better be eating enough protein. Yep. Eat protein. Shoot.
33:16  Speaker 3:  Do that muscle optimization stack and set your goal for 2 g per pound of body weight. You're
33:21  Speaker 3:  a man. You're a man so that you can have more,
33:25  Speaker 3:  set your goal for that. It's gonna be really hard to do, but, and you'll need to have some protein shakes,
33:31  Speaker 3:  if if you get close to that, you'll be sitting pretty. And again, why don't we look out and look out for your nails, right? If you're 1 way to judge you eating enough protein is if your nails are growing way too fast and your hair is growing too fast, you know that your body is growing new tissue. So you lifting weights and making your muscles sore, that's your telling body, Hey, grow tissue right there. So
33:53  Speaker 2:  yeah, what you got? At the late great rich Bian, I would say, if you want to get big, you gotta eat big. 11. You used to say that, but that's the truth. True bulk
34:02  Speaker 2:  means, let's say you have a ripped stomach. You shouldn't really have a ripped stomach, but
34:06  Speaker 2:  like, cause you're eating a lot, if that's truly what you're trying to do. So you just need to eat and then eat and then eat. And that's just the way it is. So Retta will block that. So there's easier ways to do it. If again, you want to like be
34:20  Speaker 2:  ripped and bigger,
34:21  Speaker 2:  which I like to do,
34:23  Speaker 2:  then you can do the Retta because there's a lot of body builders that are taking Retta because it will, you'll eat a little bit less. So it really depends on what your true objective is. You said bulk. So we'll go off that.
34:32  Speaker 2:  I would take the Retta out just to make it easier on you. I mean, shoot dude, you can take the red out and put it in some MCA-six, 7, 7. Will be hungry like a beast.
34:42  Speaker 2:  I, for some reason, wasn't never struggled with it until the last times I ran it and I was like, dude, I cannot stop eating. You know what I mean? Like, I don't like to be super big. I like to be more lean and cut. So it
34:51  Speaker 2:  really, really boils down to your true objectives, which you can look bigger and cut and lean. Retta, you can put in or take out the Retta, use AOD,
35:00  Speaker 2:  a use 5 amino-1MQ,
35:02  Speaker 2:  SLU-PP-three 32. There's other ones that will do well, not like Retta,
35:07  Speaker 2:  but still help you with that cutting stuff.
35:10  Speaker 2:  So again, the MK-six 77, that 1 is great. I love it. Oh, you, he said he's going to do those stacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going be doing the stacks. You're going to be, you're going to need to eat, you need to eat and you need to like just replenish those muscles and you need to live heavy, dude. Lift heavy, lift heavy, eat a lot. Take out the red in my protein.
35:28  Speaker 2:  Like here's my best. That
35:30  Speaker 2:  would be rough. Yeah. That's gonna be rough. Like here's your,
35:34  Speaker 3:  you should have your 3 basic meals, right? Get yourself, if you're a man, a grown man trying to grow, sure. Eat 50, 50 g of protein for your, and have it breakfast, lunch, dinner. Okay. And then the goal would be adding in 2 or 3 more supplementation
35:49  Speaker 3:  proteins. Okay.
35:50  Speaker 3:  Call them protein shakes, that's great. But like post workout, a 100% do that, do that, do that. Right? As soon as you start tearing muscle down, right? Clock is ticking and
35:59  Speaker 3:  muscles are trying to absorb building materials. And if you don't feed them building materials, they just start eating themselves.
36:06  Speaker 3:  And that's counterproductive what you're trying to do. So post workout and there is a clock from that time that you start working out, they do say like 45 minutes. Right? And that's not from the end of workout. That's from when we 1st like tear the 1st muscle.
36:18  Speaker 3:  But there's kind of an optimal growth window after that of maybe 4 or 5 hours. But so post, so shake post workout and then right before bed, for sure.
36:29  Speaker 3:  Grow the majority of our muscle at night while sleeping
36:33  Speaker 3:  and you better feed your body building materials.
36:36  Speaker 2:  Yeah. And you want to do less carbs at night. And if you're going to use carbs the right way, which most people do,
36:43  Speaker 2:  is right before workout, right after,
36:45  Speaker 2:  and, you will replenish your glycogen and that is the way that you wanna do it, but not at night because
36:51  Speaker 3:  you don't wanna Carbs at night because like, what's the point? Like, your carbs turn turn into sugar
36:56  Speaker 3:  and that then is ready for your body to burn it off for, you know, doing activities. So if you eat carbs at nighttime, guess what? They're going to take, if it's food, they'll probably take, you know, 2 hours or so to break down, finally turn into sugar when you're asleep
37:11  Speaker 3:  and you ain't burning that off. So now it's going to just store on you and be like, well, if we're not going to use it now, let's just store this, let's convert to fat and let's store on him later for later use. That's exactly the opposite, which you don't, what you want for bulking to cool. Eat some carbs before
37:26  Speaker 3:  eat some like quick carbs,
37:28  Speaker 3:  like intra carbs before or intra workout. Now be aware folks, if you're trying to burn fat,
37:35  Speaker 3:  if you have carbs on board, burn the carbs, your body will burn the carbs 1st. It will not touch your fat. It will burn those 1st. That's its fastest, easiest preferred energy choice.
37:46  Speaker 3:  And so you won't burn fat
37:48  Speaker 3:  if you have, but you have an awesome workout. People like, like your muscles
37:53  Speaker 2:  veins popping. You know, it just depends. It all depends really truly. There is a science to it without a doubt.
37:59  Speaker 2:  I'm a guy that's always in a carnivore and like, you know, in the last 6 months I've toyed around with adding in some more carbs and man, I've got some insane pumps.
38:08  Speaker 2:  But my objective now is I've just dropped the carbs again. Cause I like to be super lean. You drop carbs, you're going be a lot more lean. If you want to get bigger,
38:15  Speaker 2:  you need adding carbs 100%. That's what it is. Yep.
38:19  Speaker 2:  Use properly and eaten at the right times is Huge. Huge. Huge. Very.
38:25  Speaker 3:  Huge. You can have 1 person who eats the same amount of carbs and another person and the timing is completely different. 100%. They're not producing completely
38:32  Speaker 2:  different per person.
38:34  Speaker 3:  Are we in the next page? Yeah, that's a short question.
38:37  Speaker 2:  Short. Okay, cool. Is there a downside
38:40  Speaker 2:  to injecting in the stomach every time instead of rotating sites? Does absorption
38:45  Speaker 2:  change based on the injection location?
38:48  Speaker 2:  Does that depend on which peptide you're using?
38:51  Speaker 3:  Well,
38:53  Speaker 3:  1st of all, please rotate
38:55  Speaker 3:  sites as in,
38:57  Speaker 3:  like, I don't know, your belly. Like, we don't be aiming for the same hole that you did last time. Right? Exact same hole. Right? Like, there's plenty of rotation needed. The goal is to go about 2 inches anywhere from your belly button. Right? Circle 2 inches around us where that's the goal.
39:14  Speaker 3:  The only thing and so no, there's not gonna be,
39:17  Speaker 3:  it's not any absorption benefit from doing there. Now let's do it in a different sub Q area. Will work just fine unless you have 3 scar tissue that you have created in there,
39:26  Speaker 3:  which it will eventually. Like, don't just do the same right side over and over and over again. Will. Especially if you've reused a needle. Like I have, like, early in my I mean, I used to, like, use the same insulin needle for 5 days in a row. End of the street.
39:38  Speaker 3:  Right. Like, and so that definitely caused scar tissue. And so
39:42  Speaker 3:  you'll know if it's kind of hard to push in. Yeah. It's like, it's because and it's just not gonna absorb. It'll probably screw it out too, so it's just not soaking in. There is a difference between
39:52  Speaker 3:  you know, people will get more of that flush
39:55  Speaker 3:  if you, well, inject fast and also really lean people. If you don't have any fat and you pull it out and you go truly into your sub q layer, that's gonna hit you a lot faster
40:05  Speaker 3:  than somebody who's putting it into the fat. I
40:09  Speaker 3:  don't see, there's no benefit of just switching away from your stomach, unless
40:14  Speaker 3:  it's like 1 of these healing peptides, right? And you want it to absolutely heal
40:18  Speaker 3:  a specific part, then inject it right there. Intramuscular too. That's fine.
40:24  Speaker 3:  Intra tendon. Hell. Yep. I've done that. Use a new needle on that 1. Kind
40:29  Speaker 3:  of feels really weird putting it right into the tendon. Don't hit a vein. Don't do that. Yep. Yeah. I would definitely switch around,
40:37  Speaker 2:  especially,
40:38  Speaker 2:  you know, take a left turn here,
40:40  Speaker 2:  oils with TRT.
40:42  Speaker 2:  Listen, if you, you need to start moving that sucker around and you don't want to go fast
40:47  Speaker 2:  because you need to give it some time to get in and like soak through your body to, you get 1 of those PIP, you know, like it's good, squirt it in, you get a big ball. Yeah. You need to go slow.
40:56  Speaker 2:  So I didn't know that always, so I'm passing on to you. And so you don't get a lot of PIP and have to figure it out. Do that stuff right before you go move around. Right? Last thing you wanna do is inject something then just lay there. Yeah. For sure. Just
41:09  Speaker 2:  rub it out. Right? Rub it out for like
41:12  Speaker 2:  finger in your knuckle in there, rub it out, and then go go run around. Know, do is I have 1 of those little massagers now, because like I would get, I would just prone to PIP. I've just been injecting, you know, TRT for a long time. And I go, I just,
41:26  Speaker 2:  it works well, man. Haven't had it since. It's been working. You should probably do that beforehand too. Just get ready. Yeah. But like the injection, like speed is important.
41:34  Speaker 3:  Yeah, it is. It is important. I actually, in fact, I will do some medicines, my skin I'll, I'll put the thing in, I'll inject it all. And then I'll usually like pull it halfway out and sit and let the skin close-up behind it
41:48  Speaker 3:  and then 3 pull it out
41:51  Speaker 3:  Mark tricks of the trade man. And heat up the oil. That too. I've never been a problem. I never had problems with PIP though. I mean, I've had it from like, but from, like, obviously, for somebody who's I've done, like, test e 500. Oh. Right? Like It's brutal. Brutal.
42:05  Speaker 3:  There is a reason that
42:07  Speaker 3:  they make all of these different esters and compounds and esters at
42:11  Speaker 3:  specific dosages,
42:12  Speaker 3:  right? Like you're not meant to have a super high dose
42:16  Speaker 3:  single Esther because it hurts like hell. So they we figured it out like what the right dosages are. So don't,
42:24  Speaker 2:  yeah, that's good to like even talk about because we've about it so much, but like it's important. Like there's a reason why testes like 300 and test zip is 200. You can see 2 50. It should really be properly dosed around 200. We think, you know, like test p is, 100. 100. Yep. Maybe 1 50, but 100. So there's a reason these are Yep. Because Absolutely. That's There's a 100% reason for the reason that you're you don't make test e 500 or don't make usually, it's like if they if they're just dosed way too dense,
42:52  Speaker 3:  the muscles just will doesn't don't like it. Oh, it's gonna hurt.
42:56  Speaker 3:  Yep. For sure. Alright. Yeah. I am hopefully, I'm on the right question. So hi. I'm a 30 year old female. No. Hi, guys. Love the podcast. I'm 38 year old former army. Oh, no. Did we read that? No. No. We did Good. I'm on the right spot. The next 1. Hi. We did that 1 last week. So if that was you, we're not skipping you.
43:12  Speaker 3:  Hi, I'm a 30 year old female,
43:14  Speaker 3:  164
43:15  Speaker 3:  cm and 64 kg. What's up with all the damn kilograms.
43:19  Speaker 3:  I don't do math and pounds.
43:21  Speaker 3:  Really? I've been using tirzepatide
43:23  Speaker 3:  1 year, currently on 5 mg a week. My starting weight was 87 kg. I lift weights or do cardio 6 times a week and eat healthy, gain weight and muscle easy, and I have visible
43:35  Speaker 3:  muscle mass on my body. However,
43:37  Speaker 3:  I'm looking to lose the last stubborn 5 kg as I've been stuck at 64 kg for several months. I also have a bit of loose skin on my belly and above my knees, and that bothers me and might be the reason why despite my age,
43:51  Speaker 3:  my weight loss, I don't feel like I see any changes on my body. I've added now Retta 1 mg per week, and I can see that my body pooch has reduced. I'm thinking to increase Retta and finally dropped her zepatide, but I need to help optimize my stack in terms of helping me stay lean and lose the last 5 kg and help me with my skin.
44:09  Speaker 2:  You don't have that question. Yeah, I found it. Okay.
44:17  Speaker 3:  So,
44:18  Speaker 3:  okay, for for you person,
44:20  Speaker 3:  I would Khloe.
44:22  Speaker 3:  So I guess I'm going to 1st address the skin
44:25  Speaker 3:  issue. I don't under I don't really I don't can't really picture the loose
44:29  Speaker 3:  skin on my knees, but whatever. It happens, I guess. But Khloe. So Khloe will give you GHK-two,
44:36  Speaker 3:  BPC, TB, and KPV.
44:38  Speaker 3:  In fact, all of those will help to tighten your skin and, like you BPC and TB, right, creating new new blood vessels in your in even in your dermis layers, that's going to help it get more blood and heal and tighten up and grow back faster. But the GHK-3CU
44:53  Speaker 3:  is going to promote collagen,
44:55  Speaker 3:  well, absorption and creation
44:58  Speaker 3:  and will help tighten everything up. Would also use
45:01  Speaker 3:  a GHK CU snap 8 serum
45:05  Speaker 3:  use
45:06  Speaker 3:  that and topically
45:08  Speaker 3:  put it on any type of any loose skin or, or skin issues of any kind. Right? Especially like even, hell, even, like the chest
45:18  Speaker 3:  chest wrinkles, right, from people sleeping like this.
45:21  Speaker 3:  That's a great thing to have. We're looking at making some type of chest
45:25  Speaker 3:  gel patch,
45:27  Speaker 3:  With GHKCU
45:28  Speaker 3:  in it. So I think your 1 mega Reta is very low.
45:33  Speaker 3:  I would get off the tirzepatide like we've said before,
45:36  Speaker 3:  and
45:38  Speaker 3:  you'll get it 1 mg as low. The starting dose is 2.5 mg
45:42  Speaker 3:  weekly.
45:43  Speaker 3:  And so you can kind of, you can see how that goes, but you'll should be able to lose this 5 kg very easily.
45:49  Speaker 2:  Yeah. So 87
45:51  Speaker 2:  kg to 64
45:52  Speaker 2:  kg. We work in pounds. It's
45:56  Speaker 2:  about 50 pounds.
45:57  Speaker 2:  You're saying it was a lot. You've lost a lot. So, you know, I think that you should, pat yourself on the back. And again,
46:03  Speaker 2:  you know, the 1st weight is always easier is to lose. You know, the 1st 80% give or take goes quickly for most, obviously not all of them for most. And then they go boom. Yep.
46:13  Speaker 2:  And then they're like, why it's not working?
46:15  Speaker 2:  And I think just how we are all programmed is I want to take more.
46:20  Speaker 2:  And sometimes it's good to stop.
46:24  Speaker 2:  Think logically, think about what we always talk about here's your base. Are you eating enough?
46:29  Speaker 2:  Probably not.
46:30  Speaker 2:  Right? More protein, right? When you wake up ladies, again, 50 grams of protein, easy peasy, Greek yogurt, 2 scoops of protein, done.
46:38  Speaker 2:  You start your day off, right? Make sure you're adding that in, eat a lot and, Lift weights. Yeah, lift weights. Get the base again, be patient. You're doing, you're kicking ass. Like, you know, like I think Retatrutide
46:51  Speaker 2:  has taken on this, like, you know, this it's great. Scientific
46:55  Speaker 2:  breakthrough, but at the same time, like it's
46:58  Speaker 2:  not going to move mountains. We need to have some patience and like, you don't want to lose all the weight so fast. Anyway, it's, there's gonna be some health stuff with that. So you're doing good. You can add in some Tesamorelin
47:08  Speaker 2:  for that little pooch down here. And like Will said, GHK-3Cu
47:13  Speaker 2:  and then the GHK-3Cu snap 8 face serum, rub that in.
47:17  Speaker 2:  And 1 that's what I would do. Bet you need to eat more, need to eat more pretain and lift some weights, bro. I would add Tesamorelin in. It does. Great. Ipamorelin.
47:26  Speaker 3:  Like, but in realize it's not a quick, quick fix, you know,
47:29  Speaker 3:  3 months,
47:31  Speaker 3:  3 months, it's really going to target that belly fat and keep muscle on you, put muscle, keep muscle, which boosts your metabolism,
47:39  Speaker 3:  etcetera.
47:40  Speaker 2:  Well, she says I lift weights or do cardio 6 times a week. So I would lift weights. Yeah, I would lift weights and maybe cardio twice,
47:47  Speaker 3:  maybe 3 times a week. Or at the end of it, like, here's a trick folks. It's like cardio. So
47:52  Speaker 3:  if you're sprinting, we're playing basketball and your heart rate's like over above above, like, 80% of your max heart rate, That's true cardio,
48:00  Speaker 3:  hence cardiovascular
48:02  Speaker 3:  building. That is actually helps your heart. K? It's the only thing that's the only way that it's gonna help your heart. Like, a slow jog or a fast walk
48:09  Speaker 3:  is optimal like fat burning, but it's actually not doing anything to help this heart muscle. Right?
48:16  Speaker 3:  So
48:17  Speaker 3:  a suggestion is do 10 minutes or something on a stair stepper. Right? Get your sweat going and get your heart rate elevated,
48:24  Speaker 3:  and then hit the weight room and keep that heart rate elevated in the cardiovascular zone. Right? Go for 40 minutes or so, and then finish with 10 minutes. And now you have
48:34  Speaker 3:  killed your cardio and weights all in 1.
48:39  Speaker 2:  Good stuff. Yeah.
48:41  Speaker 2:  Recently,
48:44  Speaker 2:  I recently joined listener.
48:47  Speaker 2:  I have ran through every episode and can officially say I'm a peptide addict now. Awesome. That's right. Appreciate
48:54  Speaker 2:  everything you guys stand for and represent. As a 34 year old male who
48:58  Speaker 2:  has been running tirzepatide at 2.25
49:01  Speaker 2:  mg weekly
49:02  Speaker 2:  for 10 weeks, lost 12 pounds. That's awesome. At low dose, I have absolutely loved the results and I'm going to be transitioning to Retta at the end of the life cycle to continue the cut.
49:13  Speaker 2:  My main question is getting a peptide protocol for gaining muscle on a bulk this winter.
49:20  Speaker 2:  My hormones are optimal for my age.
49:23  Speaker 2:  TRT free and growth hormone are basically all in line. I love it. Above average and I feel great. Awesome. That's huge. There you are. But,
49:31  Speaker 2:  that being said, I want to gain about 5 to 8 pounds over the winter and keep it mainly muscle without anabolics.
49:39  Speaker 2:  Awesome.
49:40  Speaker 2:  Would you continue Reta on a bulk and what else would I add in addition to keep a lean bulk? Thanks, guys.
49:48  Speaker 2:  Let me take that 1. Yeah. Muscle optimization stack.
49:52  Speaker 2:  Yeah. I mean, perfect.
49:54  Speaker 2:  Yeah. So,
49:57  Speaker 2:  that's awesome. You obviously think through this. I mean, let's get to the basics of some obvious,
50:01  Speaker 2:  creatine.
50:02  Speaker 2:  You want to add in some creatine for a bulk, you know, again, we've said this in your sign of peptides aren't where they're going to be anywhere near gear. So IGF-1LR3,
50:11  Speaker 2:  you know, we're going to hear that now. I've done it both before and after. I can't say I've nearly noticed much. I like to take it right after I lift.
50:20  Speaker 2:  I come back, I take a creatine HCL in the morning. And then after I lift, I'd come home and come home. I come back to the office here and take some creatine monohydrate,
50:29  Speaker 2:  drink it. And then I take IGF-1LR-three.
50:32  Speaker 2:  And I think that's, that's great. It works well for me. Now, again, your bulk gotta eat,
50:37  Speaker 2:  gotta eat. Well, it's going to probably say 2 pounds, 2 g of protein per.
50:42  Speaker 2:  It's not easy.
50:43  Speaker 2:  You ain't going to do it without.
50:45  Speaker 3:  If you're my size, that means you're eating 500 grams of protein. That's
50:50  Speaker 3:  a lot,
50:52  Speaker 3:  but you set that goal and yeah, I mean, shoot for the whatever,
50:57  Speaker 2:  you stay lean HGH.
50:59  Speaker 2:  If you're, you said that you're, you're good in regards to the growth hormone, you're 34 or so, but you can HGH
51:05  Speaker 2:  and IGF-one there's people that have been, you can take them both. Yeah, you can, not in perpetuity, but, IGF-one will be closest thing you're going to get towards gear,
51:13  Speaker 2:  on peptides
51:15  Speaker 2:  now, and you want to, if you're going to be eating, you want to, you can add in the, like we said, last time, MK-677,
51:21  Speaker 2:  will help you eat and it will gain you some size and just you'll look, it
51:27  Speaker 2:  gets fullness to your muscles for sure.
51:29  Speaker 2:  It's in my opinion, the best thing that you're going to get, but right before gear,
51:34  Speaker 2:  right before gear. And it's because you eat a lot and your muscles just look full. So I would definitely try that. I like it. I think it's great. AOD-five amino S SLU-PP-three
51:43  Speaker 2:  32.
51:44  Speaker 2:  And the reason I say that is if you eat, you lift heavy,
51:48  Speaker 2:  and, you know, you you take some of these other ones to take out some Retta, you'll get
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52:49  Speaker 2:  Bulk and ripped.
52:51  Speaker 2:  It's 1 thing to be bulked, but if you don't have that stomach,
52:55  Speaker 2:  are you ripped?
52:56  Speaker 2:  I don't think so. Cause that's, that's, that's the key with eating a lot. And
53:02  Speaker 2:  there's a science to it like we were talking about. So you're on your way, man. Hope that helps. Yep.
53:07  Speaker 3:  Yes, I agree with everything. Look, dude, you cool. If you don't want to do antibiotics right on good to you. But you will not get, if you want anabolic results,
53:17  Speaker 3:  you will not get them with peptides. Need
53:20  Speaker 3:  anabolic. So,
53:22  Speaker 3:  but good for you. MK-677
53:23  Speaker 3:  is
53:24  Speaker 3:  the next best closest thing. It's not a peptide, right? It is, I guess, it's not a SARM either, but like
53:31  Speaker 3:  people generally classify it as just, yeah, that's both.
53:36  Speaker 3:  It is the same thing as Ipamorelin,
53:38  Speaker 3:  by the way, except for it's just a lot stronger than Ipamorelin.
53:41  Speaker 3:  And
53:42  Speaker 3:  everything he said is I I would, I 2nd. So I'm not gonna re explain his explanations.
53:48  Speaker 3:  But as the gentleman said in the last 1, on our school,
53:53  Speaker 3:  there is a
53:55  Speaker 3:  muscle optimization
53:56  Speaker 3:  stack.
53:57  Speaker 3:  Okay.
53:58  Speaker 3:  And maybe take a look at that. It's in BIP, right? It's in the premium. Premium. So we have school that's free and then you get a ton of information just on that. So we're not trying to sell you when I say this. Then we got a 25
54:09  Speaker 3:  a month and then a VIP, which is 60 a month. It's just, we give more information. It takes a lot of time to do this stuff, dude. So that's why we charge. So
54:18  Speaker 3:  we're putting good stuff out. A good day. It is good. It's worthwhile.
54:22  Speaker 3:  Like, don't, I don't, I don't feel bad whatsoever charging because it's like, it's true. There's a lot of good information and it's not that much money.
54:29  Speaker 3:  So it's worth it.
54:31  Speaker 2:  All right. Am I up? Yes.
54:34  Speaker 3:  No, I am. Think it's you. Alright. Hey guys, I'm 45 and went from 207 to 181 in 90 days.
54:41  Speaker 3:  Diet is dialed in at 180,
54:43  Speaker 3:  180 to 2 10 g of protein daily,
54:47  Speaker 3:  200 grams of carbs around training and 2,000 to 2,500 calories depending on activity. Current stack TRT, 200 megs a week, Retatrutide
54:57  Speaker 3:  2.5 mg,
54:58  Speaker 3:  2 times a week, MOTS-3Migs
55:02  Speaker 3:  Monday, Wednesday, Friday, KPV, TA-1and CLO,
55:05  Speaker 3:  and Wolverine as needed. Previous stack was Retatrut, Tessa, Ipamore, and SS-31.
55:10  Speaker 3:  My blood work improved so much that my doctor joked about wanting the same stack after reviewing my labs. That's
55:17  Speaker 3:  that's awesome. That's
55:19  Speaker 3:  like JD, when he went to his doctor for the 2nd time, we getting his wife pregnant. And he said,
55:25  Speaker 3:  well,
55:26  Speaker 3:  give me that protocol so I can give it to my other patient.
55:29  Speaker 3:  I told you it wouldn't work.
55:31  Speaker 3:  Anyway, my question is, is there any evidence that MOTS-3Mgs
55:35  Speaker 3:  Monday, Wednesday, Friday is superior to 1 mg daily dose or transition
55:40  Speaker 3:  dose or a transition to Tesofensine
55:42  Speaker 3:  and or 5 m 1 MQ long term is TRT plus HGH plus occasional Retta solid maintenance
55:49  Speaker 3:  foundation long term. Yes.
55:52  Speaker 3:  I think look,
55:53  Speaker 3:  dude, you,
55:54  Speaker 3:  you sound like kind of what I would take in my philosophy, which means probably because you listened to this. Yeah.
56:01  Speaker 3:  No, it makes sense, but
56:04  Speaker 3:  there is no real conclusive evidence.
56:06  Speaker 3:  There is no, there just is no actual
56:09  Speaker 3:  studies and conclusive evidence besides, you know, he said, she said out there on
56:14  Speaker 3:  the
56:15  Speaker 3:  1 mg daily of MOTS-3s
56:18  Speaker 3:  days a week. True.
56:20  Speaker 3:  I frankly would say, I don't know, choose either or. Yeah. Like, what do feel better? You know, I've seen, I know that there's protocols at 5 Migs once a week. And the reason that
56:30  Speaker 3:  that can be a problem is I have lots of people have reported taking 5 mg of MOTS-1C at 1 time just makes them kind of feel not very good, a little hypertensive, like you took some pre workout. Yeah.
56:42  Speaker 3:  So- I don't think that's the best approach. I don't think it's the best way. I don't know. I think, yeah, I think, I think
56:48  Speaker 3:  consecutive,
56:49  Speaker 3:  you know, consistent dosing is a better idea. So either way, dude, I think you're on the right track. Everything else is awesome. And hell yes to the last 1. Is, that's the, that's the long term goal. That's
57:02  Speaker 3:  like, all you need is TOT HGH some retta sometimes
57:06  Speaker 3:  and
57:07  Speaker 3:  hard work and 1 eat and eat right. Which the Reta will force you. 45 dude. You can't do, dude. You just keep Your stuff. You're obviously studied. You pay attention and you
57:17  Speaker 3:  sound like we'd be sitting here and like having a good conversation with you. I would try Tesofensine though. I just, I like it. I would, I like, dude, you're experiencing, like you're, you're practicing.
57:26  Speaker 3:  I would 100% say give Tesofensine and 5 amino 1 MQ a shot,
57:32  Speaker 3:  in controlled
57:34  Speaker 3:  cycle doses so you know what the difference is. Try
57:37  Speaker 3:  getting off Retatrut and going into Tesofensine
57:39  Speaker 3:  instead and see what the difference is. Yep.
57:43  Speaker 2:  I
57:44  Speaker 2:  mean, best thing that Will just said right there is there's not enough research.
57:49  Speaker 2:  If you hear somebody tell you that they know definitively,
57:53  Speaker 2:  don't listen to them because
57:55  Speaker 2:  none of us know. These are newer compounds at least studied. And as we,
58:00  Speaker 2:  you know, go down the line and there'll be more studied, obviously these answers are going to come and they're going to be more definitive. But again, if you have somebody, this is how it is, listen,
58:09  Speaker 2:  maybe follow somebody else because nobody knows.
58:11  Speaker 2:  Do your own research,
58:13  Speaker 2:  try them all 3. How do you feel? That's easiest way to do it. Tesofensine is great.
58:18  Speaker 2:  I've been liking it 1st. You probably heard. I love it. I think it's great. Now, the only difference is
58:24  Speaker 2:  it can be kind of like a stimulant to some.
58:27  Speaker 2:  I'm not saying it's a stimulant, but some people think that I would never
58:31  Speaker 2:  tell anybody to take it if I was worried in any way, because obviously Will and I are both sober. We both take it. That's
58:38  Speaker 2:  the only thing to worry about. I don't personally
58:41  Speaker 2:  get any type of
58:43  Speaker 2:  blockage of food noise.
58:45  Speaker 2:  None. I know a lot of people do.
58:49  Speaker 2:  I don't personally. So
58:51  Speaker 2:  again, that's why you need to take it. Do you? Do you? Yes. Yes.
58:55  Speaker 2:  I definitely Okay.
58:57  Speaker 3:  Do. I definitely get like blockage from
59:00  Speaker 3:  the sweets. It's just, it's just the sugar. It's a foods that
59:04  Speaker 3:  it's not food noise in general. And I guess I've never been a big from noise problem, but like it's, it's those like high sugar
59:12  Speaker 3:  happiness
59:12  Speaker 3:  spike foods. You don't need it anymore. They don't frigging just, they just don't do it for me if I'm on Tesvinci and I don't eat them anymore because
59:20  Speaker 2:  I tried them and I'm like, yeah, it's just doesn't really isn't nearly as good as I remember. Yeah. So if you get that, that's rad. I don't get that. I wish I got that. Can I have some? I
59:32  Speaker 2:  don't get that, but there you go. You're not going to know unless you try it. Tesofensine is great. It's amazing. Try that 5 Amino.
59:37  Speaker 2:  I love it. It's 1 of my favorites. So yeah, I tried that. And then again,
59:41  Speaker 2:  the last 1 is easy.
59:43  Speaker 2:  TRTH GH occasional read out. That's probably will be my go to forever, forever till it did, till I can't do it anymore. Perfect. A lot of hard work and a lot of saying no to yourself.
59:53  Speaker 1:  Yep.
59:54  Speaker 1:  Part of the game.
59:56  Speaker 2:  Warriors, thank you for everything you do. This is the last question, by the way. I have a buddy who suffers from Crohn's and hates the meds he's prescribed. He's through 30 to 40 pounds overweight,
1:00:07  Speaker 2:  he's looking into Reta for weight loss and KPV BPC for gut health thoughts. Yes.
1:00:15  Speaker 3:  Done. Oral though. I would say, Hey, if we got Crohn's, like I would, I would,
1:00:20  Speaker 3:  I would go with BPC
1:00:22  Speaker 3:  pills and KPV
1:00:24  Speaker 2:  pills. Both.
1:00:25  Speaker 2:  I ain't gonna hurt to try the injection too. I've got a lot of gut problems. I do both.
1:00:30  Speaker 2:  Can't go wrong with BPC
1:00:32  Speaker 2:  anyway. BPC is amazing and KPV.
1:00:35  Speaker 3:  It's great. Yeah. I mean, that's what they're there for. That's, that's literally like,
1:00:38  Speaker 3:  that's what they're there for. There is conclusive studies of BPC
1:00:42  Speaker 3:  with,
1:00:44  Speaker 3:  Crohn's and, and, and, yeah,
1:00:47  Speaker 3:  everything that's related to that,
1:00:49  Speaker 3:  leaky gut, etcetera. There's actual research there. So for sure you're on the right track, do it. And so the people when it comes to that stuff,
1:00:59  Speaker 2:  you know, again,
1:01:01  Speaker 2:  setting the base of you in regards to,
1:01:04  Speaker 2:  diets important, you know, like I'd love carnivore.
1:01:08  Speaker 2:  I'm not saying you have to try it, but the reason it's real,
1:01:11  Speaker 2:  a lot of people ask myself when I, before I started doing it, I thought I was going to have a really hard time with it because it's really mainly meat and eggs. And I was like, dude, can I, that's all I can eat, even though I love those 2 foods?
1:01:23  Speaker 2:  But the beauty of it is the fact that you're taking so many foods out.
1:01:27  Speaker 2:  And if you do them for a while, if you can just,
1:01:31  Speaker 2:  somebody ran into the wall, add them in a little bit, by 1, after you feel like you've rebooted your, your stomach,
1:01:37  Speaker 2:  then you can kind of start to see the ones that really agitate you. So that takes discipline, but that's the best way you could probably do it and adding some fasting in because you're, don't need to eat constantly.
1:01:49  Speaker 2:  We don't need to constantly be digesting.
1:01:52  Speaker 2:  I know that's hard because we've been told you need to eat every 2 hours and all that stuff where,
1:01:56  Speaker 2:  your body needs time to not eat because when you're bringing energy, when you, when you're doing, you have to digest
1:02:02  Speaker 2:  and it's great to give yourself a day off. I know that sounds crazy, but until you do it, you're like, I feel freaking amazing. Right? Yeah. It's really important. I mean, it is really like, yes, where our body gets,
1:02:14  Speaker 3:  our liver gets overwhelmed with just this constant processing
1:02:18  Speaker 3:  of food, right? You can see it in gaining some like water excess holding onto water rate. You know, you do a fast for a day,
1:02:27  Speaker 3:  and your liver finally gets a chance. When it has in the absence of it having to do a job,
1:02:33  Speaker 3:  finds something to do and that is clean itself out. And that's super important. The liver is
1:02:39  Speaker 3:  the most important. 1 of the most important organs, I mean, brain I don't if the brain's an organ, but, heart's pretty important. But liver is really just the most functional,
1:02:49  Speaker 3:  organ and is vital to keep clean. Yep.
1:02:52  Speaker 3:  I mean, it's the thing that decides what's good protein, what's bad, like what's what are good fats, what's bad fats? If that's all clogged up and constantly beat up and overworked, you're gonna
1:03:02  Speaker 2:  not have good results. Yeah. We, we it's a peptide podcast and you know, most people now are listening. I fell in love with peptides just as we did, you know? And I love that, but don't ever forget about some of the bases of just what God gave us, which is fasting,
1:03:17  Speaker 2:  eating more,
1:03:19  Speaker 2:  taking walks without your shoes on meditating.
1:03:22  Speaker 2:  There's these things that we've had forever
1:03:24  Speaker 2:  because they work. If we just sometimes slow down and try them,
1:03:28  Speaker 3:  they work well, man. Probably the most effective supplement of all time is caffeine. I mean, I think hands down is caffeine.
1:03:36  Speaker 3:  Like it literally numbs pain. It makes you smarter. It makes your brain work faster. Right?
1:03:42  Speaker 3:  It reduces your appetite. It makes you burn your thermogenic state and makes your, your metabolism go up because your heart's beating a little bit faster. Yeah. We
1:03:51  Speaker 3:  just are so used to it all day long every day, but it's probably the most effective supplement ever created. Another good 1 for stomach that I've been reading on recently is,
1:04:01  Speaker 2:  baking soda. I'm gonna take a shot of baking soda. It's good for stomach. And I've had some really bad cough crap that I've been dealing with forever. I've been studying and studying and studying, trying to figure this sucker out and stumbled upon some stuff and some studies with that and like, man,
1:04:15  Speaker 2:  that stuff is soaking
1:04:16  Speaker 2:  my feet in baking soda, apple cider vinegar,
1:04:20  Speaker 2:  and
1:04:21  Speaker 2:  Epsom salt every night. Got a picture I'm gonna post to my son, saw me soaking my feet in the bathroom and he's like, what? Like my 2 year old and like he comes in and claws, sticks with me, but it
1:04:31  Speaker 2:  pulls toxins
1:04:32  Speaker 2:  out of your feet. And
1:04:34  Speaker 2:  I've been doing it every night and I've been sleeping like a freaking
1:04:37  Speaker 2:  lot. I think my feet would my feet could probably use that. You need to do it as fat as hot as you can take, which I'm pretty good with that stuff. I've been doing it every night and dude, I'm not kidding you. It it at the very least,
1:04:48  Speaker 3:  I'm sleeping like a freaking baby. So how about washing your mouth out with
1:04:55  Speaker 3:  oil, with
1:04:57  Speaker 3:  MCT oil? Have
1:04:59  Speaker 3:  you heard it? There's a name for this, but I forget who it is. Just giving yourself a good, like just through your teeth and
1:05:05  Speaker 3:  spit it out,
1:05:06  Speaker 3:  but it needs to be, like, unrefined. I was like, well, I'll just use the Miglol eat, but, no, it needs to be unrefined
1:05:12  Speaker 3:  olive oil. Into that. I know. So, yeah, look into that. There is a name for it. I also I I definitely brush my teeth and probably, well, I brush my teeth, folks.
1:05:21  Speaker 1:  Thank God. My
1:05:23  Speaker 3:  floss comes I floss all the time now. I did not as a younger man, but I wash my mouth out with hydrogen peroxide. I just drink some of the hydrogen peroxide. Do not drink it.
1:05:32  Speaker 3:  Just swish your mouth out. And that stuff, that just kills everything in your mouth. It's fine. Try it. And brush your teeth with a baking soda. That too. Have you done that? No, but I think most toothpaste is made with baking soda. Like don't use that charcoal.
1:05:44  Speaker 3:  Yeah, true. Don't use the charcoal,
1:05:46  Speaker 2:  toothpaste. Apparently like doesn't do anything for you. Stuff though. Like, again, there's so many like
1:05:52  Speaker 2:  stuff that like we just have that like, you know, we've been pulled this way because
1:05:57  Speaker 2:  people want to sell product, which I'm not ever knocking anybody selling a product. It's great. But like there's some old remedies dudes with just literally taking your feet and walking on the grass. Like you've connected to the energy of the earth. Know it sounds woo woo, but it's true. Right?
1:06:12  Speaker 2:  Absolutely like that. Centers you and like your equilibrium
1:06:16  Speaker 2:  and your, it's truth, truth, man. We have a
1:06:20  Speaker 2:  school is popping. We are so blessed.
1:06:23  Speaker 2:  We've been now finally,
1:06:25  Speaker 2:  feeling comfortable enough on Instagram
1:06:27  Speaker 2:  to
1:06:28  Speaker 2:  pull some people over and market a little bit because we were a little worried at 1st. But now we're doing some marketing and like people are coming over and they love it. So you hear people even talking on here. It's you can do the free 1. We don't care if you do the upgrades. We don't, we really don't. The, the, the, the team of people out there that we have cultivated
1:06:47  Speaker 2:  all of us together has been truly amazing. They lift each other up. They help each other. You know, if there's anybody being
1:06:55  Speaker 2:  we'll get rid of them. That's positivity
1:06:57  Speaker 2:  lifting each other. Here's how you do this. This is what I tried. Such a community. It's about, what do we have? Like 12, 13000 people here now and growing like, so jump on there. You
1:07:07  Speaker 2:  have a lot of good information that we give you for free. Make sure you click on classroom. There's a ton of stuff right there. A lot of people don't click around. And then we do have 2 upgrades that
1:07:17  Speaker 2:  25 and a 30 or 60. And the reason that we do that is because that's the stuff that takes a long time. And even the 60, we've done some stuff that we've been asked for. Well, and I talked about a steroid cycle that he, and it's not because we're advocating for steroids,
1:07:31  Speaker 2:  we're asked. So we just do that to try to give the people, then the questions that we get, what they want.
1:07:38  Speaker 2:  It's never ending. We're always under construction.
1:07:42  Speaker 2:  We're both really good at like what we do. He's really good at like the organization and keeping everything. This place is dope because of this guy.
1:07:49  Speaker 2:  But we both bring a lot to the table and it tossed a lot of our energy.
1:07:54  Speaker 3:  That's why we charge for certain things. But other than that, it's dope jump on there. We would love to see on there, man. Yep, absolutely. And we have a lot of, a lot of our answers and different protocols come from not only just our minds, but these guests that you guys have all seen, right? With, from Josh Holyfield to Trevor,
1:08:13  Speaker 3:  Paul, to y'all. A lot of any questions you guys ask,
1:08:17  Speaker 2:  a lot of those answers. Yeah. We on the complex ones consult with, with those guys, different doctors, etcetera. So we're always going to improve because that's who Will and I are in our team of a lot of people, both we've had numerous people that are some big wigs in the industry. They left here, they sent us some praises of our team that were just like, guys' team is just amazing because they are. We truly have hearts to serve and
1:08:42  Speaker 2:  really all kind of share the message of just trying to help people get healthy.
1:08:46  Speaker 2:  And that is amazing. And we're gonna have doctors on. We have another gal coming on, Tiffany, who's coming on at the end of the month, who is going to be kind of like Doctor. Scott, really about gut health and
1:08:57  Speaker 2:  hormone replacement for you ladies. She's gonna be really into that. And just some other doctor Chestnut. If anybody follows him, my wife sent me him. We reached out and he's wanted to come on and he's huge, like huge. And
1:09:09  Speaker 2:  that's what we're going to do. Continue to push the envelope
1:09:12  Speaker 2:  on getting better people on here because we love learning from them. You know, like we're all under construction.
1:09:20  Speaker 2:  And again, we'll never hear us say,
1:09:22  Speaker 2:  this is how it is because we're
1:09:25  Speaker 2:  no, we, that we are constantly learning. We're just trying to give you guys the best information. And that's been a blessing to be able to have this podcast to have people that want to come on. So 0 And a potential
1:09:37  Speaker 3:  vet to talk to us about
1:09:39  Speaker 3:  peptides future treatments. Right? We're working on that. These
1:09:44  Speaker 3:  doctors need to be careful, right? They're not allowed to describe
1:09:47  Speaker 3:  most of the peptide. So,
1:09:49  Speaker 3:  yeah, we'll probably have a vet here to talk about pets and, and, you know, what are some potential
1:09:54  Speaker 3:  remedies
1:09:56  Speaker 2:  and potential things that might be in the future horizon. Rad. Yeah. Other than that, we will catch you on the next round. Take care. Good night.