Ep 23 · 29:44
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0:27Speaker 0is the Q and A. We are going to go through these questions, some deep questions today, so you guys are still throwing some good questions out there, so we're excited to go through these and
0:44Speaker 0Oh, his mic's off. Your mic's off. Okay. There you go. How about now? You ready to rock? How about now? Yep. Okay.
1:13Speaker 1You don't need to follow our advice and nor is it really advice. It's just telling you our own experience. Okay? We like talking about this stuff. We've used a lot of this stuff, but we don't know everything. Yeah, absolutely.
1:35Speaker 0Got my T up to 7 93, but wanted to lose some weight, so thinking of getting on GLP-three
1:48Speaker 01st and foremost, you have to get your hormones in line. If you do not have your hormones right,
1:53Speaker 0then peptides aren't going to do a whole lot. So in my opinion, I think that you're going about this great, you're getting your hormones set, you're getting your hormones in line, and now when you take peptides,
2:04Speaker 0You can get the best benefit from them. So yeah, I'm a big fan of GLP-three Retta, It's 1 of the best peptides out there. You're going to see huge,
2:31Speaker 0losing weight, for sure. Make sure you exercise as well. You're doing this and you're doing the journey correctly.
2:38Speaker 0just make sure that you eat a good diet and get exercising as well, get the full benefits. Yeah, and testosterone will help making sure that you
2:50Speaker 1HCG is making sure you least lose the least amount of natural testosterone output. B 12 is just good for you. Gives you some good natural energy.
3:20Speaker 1would 100% do it sublingually. If you have a capsule, don't take it sublingually. I don't think it'll work as well. But on the research shows that sublingual is far more effective than
3:43Speaker 0It's my preference. I've done it all 3. And I'll tell you, if I had to choose the injection,
3:49Speaker 0sublingual, or the swallow, I actually like the sublingual on the SLU in particular. That's the 1 I would choose. People are taking them at high doses now. Yeah. It's getting real like like really high doses. Yeah.
4:53Speaker 1but it should. Nitrile static water should be just fine. You need to you're going to need
4:59Speaker 1I mean, in a 5 mg bottle of SLU-, you're gonna need to at least put 2 mils of water in to make sure that it dissolves. You're also gonna need to swirl it and let it sit. It's not gonna immediately break down and and look perfectly clear as water.
5:19Speaker 1even after sitting and swirling and putting even 3 mils of water in. You know, if 2 mils isn't enough and still not breaking down, I would add another mil of water, adjust the math for your dose. But
5:33Speaker 1that is an indication that maybe it got damaged in transit. Right? It could have been been in, like, hot conditions for too long.
6:10Speaker 1frag 1 71, 1 91, Regular HGH, the actual HGH chain has a 191 amino acids. K? HGH frag is a fragment of that, only 171,
6:49Speaker 1which is a 191 amino acids, but it's it's being naturally created. So those 2 are different. Why is HGH frag not as popular? Tesamorelin is is
7:10Speaker 1is not it is just a fragment, and it's not very stable and sometimes can be a little bit strong and providing some
7:25Speaker 1amino acids. K? It is but it is a synthetic version and made to and so it is a lot more resilient and stable
8:55Speaker 1I've tried the GLP-one pill. I've had tons of friends try it, and you have to start with, like,
9:25Speaker 1Cool. It's out there, and somebody's saying, hey. This is what it is, and and maybe, but I just don't think it really works
9:40Speaker 1Right. Into a pill 1st. Although, I know that I've heard that that can happen, but obviously, it's not perfect and widely used.
9:56Speaker 1Oh, there's my thoughts. Now drawing everything up in 1 syringe, will it affect the efficacy? No. Totally do it. I understand. It sucks
10:05Speaker 1You can draw, draw, draw, and do 1 injection as long as those peptides mix together and your solution is still clear like water.
10:14Speaker 1you mix 1 of them and now it doesn't mix well, the other turns it cloudy. I would not inject that.
10:20Speaker 0I, you know, I've gone over this numerous times where I inject most mine into an empty bottle and then I do 1 syringe because I use a brand new syringe it's not dulled.
10:29Speaker 0The more times you inject that into a bottle, that's going to dull the syringe, and if you hit your stomach,
10:34Speaker 0you know, you might get a little lump, especially with NAD. NAD is known to sting a bit, so personally, I'll just give you my opinion on this answers. I do my Retta, I do my GLP-three separate, I just leave that 1 alone, I like to do that separate,
10:50Speaker 0unless like there's a wide range of like what they do, like Retta and like an AOD, would never mix those 2, they're totally different peptides. So, that's my personal preference. I think you to answer your question,
11:08Speaker 0I've been on TRT for 6 months. Been doing 50 units twice a week. I inject it on my glutes and alternative cheek every other day. Why is it always sore for days?
11:28Speaker 1if you're doing testosterone siponate, that's what most people are doing because it's a long ester and generally tolerated. Well, a lot of the, like, clinical test siponate is made at 200 mg/ml.
11:58Speaker 1That is maybe that is a little bit too high. Sometimes it's just dosed a little too densely for some people's muscles.
12:15Speaker 1yeah, you might be 1 of those people that it's just a little too dense for your muscles, so you're getting that little knot. Some tricks of the trade
12:29Speaker 1And then once you do your injection, just put your knuckle in your glute, massage it, and then go for a jog for 5 minutes. 10 minutes. Longer the jog, better to get that knot, like,
12:39Speaker 1get it all get all that that foreign oil just into your muscles and spread out into your blood. Yeah. The last thing, you sure as hell do not want to just
12:48Speaker 1do an injection and then just sit down. They do have to. Like, it's gonna not up and that's what makes it sore the next day.
12:56Speaker 0Tricks of the trade, man. I've been doing that for a long time where you you pull it out, you draw it out and you run it over hot water. It's always worked well for me, but you can also do instead of doing 2 times a week, you can break that up and do a little bit each day. It's a little bit more pinning obviously, but that might be the case. And if you're talking about, like Will said, Discipinate at 2 50 mg,
13:19Speaker 0that's a little bit higher than a normal testosterone TRT dosage. I'm not going to judge or care, I'm just saying most people
13:26Speaker 0would recommend a 200 a week, or 180 a week, give or take. Everybody's different, but the 2 50 might be a little high for you. This might be the case. Well, I guess what I was saying is the dose of the actual bottle that you get. Right? The dose at 200 might be dosed at 250 mg/ml.
14:11Speaker 1Oh, yeah. Been using the same syringe to pull my 20 units for MOTS c and 25 for NAD plus. I haven't felt a difference yet. How long till I feel a difference? Should I increase my dosage? No. Wait. You just started.
14:26Speaker 0Give it some time. Yeah. That's not a long time, to answer that question, sorry, just pulled the mic from you, but no, that's give it some time, man, this stuff is not miracle stuff. I mean, the GLP-1s,
14:37Speaker 0those will work really quickly, So if you've started that maybe and that's why you're asking that,
14:42Speaker 0it's most aren't like that. You gotta go slow and give it some time and let it build up into your system and let your body get used to it. So my answer to that is no. Don't increase it. Go slow.
14:53Speaker 1Yeah. Don't increase it. I don't know what you're yeah. Don't increase it. The MOTS-3C, you actually should start to feel here soon. The NAD,
15:06Speaker 1it'll start making you tingly. And I don't know if you want to really that's not really the goal is to feel the actual NAD immediately.
15:31Speaker 1What are your thoughts on this protocol for mitochondrial health? Taking 1 at a time, question mark.
15:50Speaker 1Number 2, mitochondrial repair with SS 31. Number 3, mitochondrial replication with MOTS-three. Number 4,
16:17Speaker 0is doing what if you don't kind of go slow and do 1 at a time and start to see how you feel?
16:22Speaker 0If you take 4, like, you know, we're huge fans of peptides, we've been taking them a long time, but we have a lot of experience with them because we've done it for a long time. So my answer to that would be go slow man, just do 1 at a time, see how your body responds to it, to that particular compound,
16:38Speaker 0and then after time you can start adding. I mean, I take a lot of peptides, but I know how my body responds to each 1.
16:52Speaker 12 things. When I think of that that total stack, like, great. Yeah. I don't think I think that that is
17:11Speaker 1But but, yes, introducing them 1 at a time if we truly want to you really wanna know what 1 thing is doing
17:19Speaker 1and not I don't know. I'm getting good results. I'm liking it, but I don't know what's what it did. Right? You probably need to really introduce 1 and go about a month,
17:30Speaker 1Right. Wait a month. Or, I mean, even better for your own research. Right? It's like, do 1 for a month and pull it, another. Pull it.
17:40Speaker 1But it's gonna take all of those. It's gonna take maybe that long to really know what the heck it's doing.
17:51Speaker 0do you have a recommended stack or plan to ease them into the mix and learn what works best for them? So we kind of just answered that, but yeah, we definitely recommend just easing into it, trying it, seeing how your body responds to it. Again, guys, we everybody's a science project, know, like, you know,
18:09Speaker 0I don't respond well to different testosterone because I've tried it. I don't, you know, test P, I don't do well with that. I get big welts on my butt, it's just there's certain people that don't. How do I know that? I tried it, I've done it numerous times, I realized that's what it was in particular.
18:24Speaker 0So again, there's so many amazing peptides, but how are you going to know which 1 does what unless you take the time to kind of go slow
18:37Speaker 1responds to it. So that would be my answer on that 1. Yeah, and starting out with peptides, recommend a stack. Well, 1st of all, there's all these peptides that are there for different reasons. So I can't just be like, Hey, try this, Right? Because who I mean, I don't know. What do you want to do? So 1st of all, I would say Objectives. If you could give me a saying, hey. The here's my problem, and what are some good beginners to solve that problem? I can give you a better answer. Now if I were just although just taking taking a stab in the dark, I would say try
19:15Speaker 1They will really help your overall we all probably have aches and pains, you know, that will really help
19:28Speaker 1And that's my most basic 1 to try that freaking works. You've heard about it. Everybody's heard about it. Why? Because it works. Hell, yeah. It's a great peptide.
19:42Speaker 1Does it make sense to split that daily dose? 0.333 before a workout, 3rd after workout,
20:00Speaker 1right, again, every there's a different answer for every peptide for this question. Okay? I can't. So I will answer the question for Tesamorelin. So Tesamorelin's
20:10Speaker 1an HCGH secreted god. Right? Tells your body to try to put out more HGH. We our body naturally creates HGH in pulses about 3 or about 6 times a day.
20:26Speaker 1So normally, it's a midday, guys. We don't really build that much muscle because we have all these other stressors that are happening, and our body is not really willing to do that. Plus, we have small little growth hormone pulses.
20:41Speaker 1in 1 full dose at night to really boost that big pulse. Okay? Because at nighttime is when our body wants to grow the muscle.
20:56Speaker 1could be very minimal. Right? Probably just a little bit, and who knows what other stressors you have going on that'll just negate even
21:12Speaker 1the whole thing. Now Yep. I agree. If the goal is to kinda try to help build muscle, there are PEG- MGF is a good 1 to do right after workout and same with IGF-1LR-three.
21:30Speaker 0Throughout. Yeah, different answers for each peptide. Contingent upon what peptide we're talking about. So, we answer different ways. 43 year old male, I've been on my fitness journey since March of this year.
22:10Speaker 1Can peptides cause issues with liver? A lot going on there. A lot going on. Okay, so this is 1 of those questions where there's not enough information for me to answer and I'm not a doctor and there could be, who knows, man? Your medical I don't know your medical history.
22:26Speaker 1I don't know what other maybe actual, like, you know, pharmaceutical medications that you're taking that could even skew the test. There's just so much, and I and I and I don't really wanna give
22:51Speaker 1the fact that you've just started your fitness journey in '43, you may be eating clean now and
22:57Speaker 1not drinking, but the assumption it's it's you've you spent 42 other years. Right? Right. Maybe not. Okay? And that's how
23:16Speaker 0And I don't That know tells me I've been on a fitness journey since March. So that to me tells me that if you're just starting your fitness journey, probably haven't
23:27Speaker 0We don't know how much you weigh, there's a lot going on there to answer that, so it's kind of hard
23:33Speaker 1answer that 1, and we don't wanna steer you in the wrong direction. We're not doctors, we don't know you. Exactly, but I will say good for you, man. Like, that's awesome. Keep going. I don't even care. Whatever. Whenever you start your fitness journey, you kick ass, dude. I bet you're happier.
23:45Speaker 1I bet you're happier, and you're about to get a lot even even more happy. You know, there's a lot of like empowerment that comes with
24:21Speaker 1Hi. I recently have gotten into peptides, and I love listening to podcasts to learn more. I have 2 questions.
24:28Speaker 1For me, I'm a 28 year old female, man. I'm trying to lose close to 70 pounds. Before I had my son 7 years ago, I was comfortably 1 35, but now after my 2nd child was born 4 months ago, I'm about 200.
24:54Speaker 1as well since I'm getting back in the gym or if I'm better off adding that in when I'm down another 30 pounds or so. My 2nd question too is about my mom.
25:07Speaker 1And at only 56, the doctors are telling her that her X rays look like they're from a 90 year old woman. She's coming around with the idea. I don't have to try peptides because her next step is surgery in her hands for the arthritis.
25:19Speaker 1She also has very delicate skin now because of the steroid injections they've been giving her for that. K? I was planning on getting her on the glow stack to see if that will give her some relief from the pain and help the delicate skin, but would you suggest that or AOD?
25:33Speaker 1I would like to start with 1 at a time because she's weary about injecting anything, but after talking to her doc and having the peace of mind that she is safe, she's coming around to the idea. Thanks.
26:02Speaker 1a lot of weight and part of that weight is muscle, okay, which is gonna lower your metabolism. We don't want wanna lose as little muscle as possible. Tesamorelin is gonna really, really, really help
26:13Speaker 1And now's a great time. I would say go ahead. The 1 thing to be wary about is keep your dose start low. Okay? If you notice that you are retaining water,
26:30Speaker 1that'll not make you happy in your journey to lose weight if you start looking like you're looking a little bit plumper than you were before. So but that's easy fix. It's just water. It'll go away.
26:41Speaker 1And the Tirzepatide, you be the judge on the on the dosage increase. Okay? You do not wanna feel nauseous. You don't you don't you want appetite reduction,
26:51Speaker 1but not too much appetite reduction, and you want it so once it stops working at your current dose, then it's time to just slightly
27:09Speaker 1I don't see the need for AOD for her. You didn't mention any weight loss. That's really what that's for. It's not Yeah. Very different. Very different.
27:19Speaker 1I mean, okay. Let's put it this way. I have given my mother. My mother's similar. I don't know about the bone, but she's old. She's 80.
27:37Speaker 1Keeping on muscle is gonna go up, right, as we're old. And and it's gonna help strengthen her skin. It's gonna strengthen everything in her body.
27:44Speaker 1So that's what I would do. Also, for my mother who has arthritis in her hands, we have started we gave her a BPC TB blend to inject right into her hands.
28:01Speaker 1And the doctor's like, okay. We done you know, you still have arthritis, and she's going, well, I don't feel it in my right hand. I don't think you're right, doctor.
28:08Speaker 1Pretty freaking amazing. Like so that's what I would go with. The skin is brittle, yes, for elder people, so you know, maybe help her out,
28:24Speaker 0Yeah, and I would just kind of get to piggyback on that. You don't want to do glow, especially if it's their 1st time glow, there's a lot of people that have a hard time with it because it has the GHK-two copper peptide and a lot of people don't do well with copper, like a lot. It stings for a lot of people, so you don't wanna scare her away forever with injecting Glow. So as Will said, yeah, go with the BPC-157
28:56Speaker 0man, that was great. Those are some deeper questions. They were. You guys are throwing some curves at us, I love it. Good stuff.
29:04Speaker 0tomorrow, get it edited and we'll get it out tomorrow and then we will be setting it up next week where I'll be putting it on my story probably Wednesday,
29:13Speaker 0because we will be recording this on Thursday instead of Friday like normal. It'll still drop on Saturday, but I'll be having surgery on Friday, so we can't record that day. So yeah, until anything else before we go?
29:25Speaker 1No, that was cool. That was good people. Yeah. Awesome. I love the interest and I hope everybody is feeling better and getting better and happier
29:35Speaker 0of their experimentation with these. Yeah, man. It's been awesome, man. Good stuff out there. So alright, my friends. We will catch you next round. You have a great weekend. Later.