Peptide Q&A #5 – RETA + TRT, SLU-PP-332 Dosing Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-5-reta-trt-slu-pp-332-dosing/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week. I'm your host JD Denham, and I got my cohost, 0:06 Speaker 0: mister William T. Haas on board today. What's up, my friend? What's up, buddy? It 0:11 Speaker 0: is Friday. 0:12 Speaker 0: It is a good day. 1 week from today, I am going under the knife 0:16 Speaker 0: I'm ready to be out of pain. 0:20 Speaker 0: I cannot wait. 0:21 Speaker 0: I cannot wait. 0:23 Speaker 0: Long time coming, man. So 1 week from today, 1 week from today, but today 0:27 Speaker 0: is the Q and A. We are going to go through these questions, some deep questions today, so you guys are still throwing some good questions out there, so we're excited to go through these and 0:38 Speaker 0: give you our best answers that we got. What do you think, boy? You ready to rock? 0:44 Speaker 0: Oh, his mic's off. Your mic's off. Okay. There you go. How about now? You ready to rock? How about now? Yep. Okay. 0:53 Speaker 1: I guess I wanted to throw a disclaimer out. Like, a lot of these questions are getting 0:58 Speaker 1: complex and medical, and like we are not doctors. 1:02 Speaker 1: And 1:03 Speaker 1: we're not doctors, and we're just gonna tell you about our experience- 1:08 Speaker 1: Right. With peptides, and that's it. Take it or leave it. 1:13 Speaker 1: You don't need to follow our advice and nor is it really advice. It's just telling you our own experience. Okay? We like talking about this stuff. We've used a lot of this stuff, but we don't know everything. Yeah, absolutely. 1:24 Speaker 0: Double check 1:26 Speaker 0: everything. 1:26 Speaker 0: I'll rock on this 1. Alright. My total T was at 2 73, 1:30 Speaker 0: so I got on testosterone 1:32 Speaker 0: along with HCG 1:33 Speaker 0: and B12. 1:35 Speaker 0: Got my T up to 7 93, but wanted to lose some weight, so thinking of getting on GLP-three 1:40 Speaker 0: as well. What are your thoughts on all these together? 1:44 Speaker 0: I think it's great. I think we've talked about numerous times that 1:48 Speaker 0: 1st and foremost, you have to get your hormones in line. If you do not have your hormones right, 1:53 Speaker 0: then peptides aren't going to do a whole lot. So in my opinion, I think that you're going about this great, you're getting your hormones set, you're getting your hormones in line, and now when you take peptides, 2:02 Speaker 0: they will actually 2:04 Speaker 0: You can get the best benefit from them. So yeah, I'm a big fan of GLP-three Retta, It's 1 of the best peptides out there. You're going to see huge, 2:13 Speaker 0: huge 2:14 Speaker 0: you're notice going it quickly. 2:16 Speaker 0: You think, Will? Yeah, absolutely. There's no problem at all 2:22 Speaker 0: taking those together and 2:24 Speaker 0: hell, yeah, GLP-three is the way to go. 2:27 Speaker 0: The type of thing you can do for 2:31 Speaker 0: losing weight, for sure. Make sure you exercise as well. You're doing this and you're doing the journey correctly. 2:36 Speaker 0: So when you add in that GLP-three, 2:38 Speaker 0: just make sure that you eat a good diet and get exercising as well, get the full benefits. Yeah, and testosterone will help making sure that you 2:47 Speaker 1: lose the least amount of actual muscle. 2:49 Speaker 0: Yep. 2:50 Speaker 1: HCG is making sure you least lose the least amount of natural testosterone output. B 12 is just good for you. Gives you some good natural energy. 2:59 Speaker 1: Yeah. 3:01 Speaker 1: Okay. I will go. What's up, y'all? SLU- in pill form. So s o u p p 3 3 2. 3:09 Speaker 1: In pill form, do you recommend 3:11 Speaker 1: taking sublingual or just swallowing whole? 3:15 Speaker 1: Well, 3:16 Speaker 1: if you have a sublingual pill, 3:18 Speaker 0: I 3:20 Speaker 1: would 100% do it sublingually. If you have a capsule, don't take it sublingually. I don't think it'll work as well. But on the research shows that sublingual is far more effective than 3:31 Speaker 1: just swallowing the pill. Yep. Okay? 3:34 Speaker 1: Sublingual, 3:36 Speaker 1: in fact, 3:37 Speaker 1: the research shows us that is the absolute most effective way 3:41 Speaker 1: to take SLU-3. 3:43 Speaker 0: It's my preference. I've done it all 3. And I'll tell you, if I had to choose the injection, 3:49 Speaker 0: sublingual, or the swallow, I actually like the sublingual on the SLU in particular. That's the 1 I would choose. People are taking them at high doses now. Yeah. It's getting real like like really high doses. Yeah. 4:01 Speaker 1: So 4:02 Speaker 1: and I what I mean, I mean, shoot, 4:04 Speaker 1: you know, thousand milligrams 3 times a day and and higher than that. 4:09 Speaker 1: But 4:10 Speaker 1: it is 4:12 Speaker 1: it's still working. It works still even great at, you know, 500 mg micrograms, 4:17 Speaker 1: excuse me, micrograms 4:19 Speaker 1: 2 to 3 times a day, but you can take more. 4:23 Speaker 0: There you go. 4:25 Speaker 0: How do you reconstitute 4:28 Speaker 0: -three 32? 4:29 Speaker 0: I have heard bacteriostatic 4:30 Speaker 0: water is not the solution to use. We think, Will. Well, okay. So just like AOD, 4:37 Speaker 1: and it's not as bad as AOD, 4:39 Speaker 1: but it is a, like, hydrophobic 4:41 Speaker 1: compound. So it does not mix 4:44 Speaker 1: extremely well with water. Well, it doesn't dissolve 4:48 Speaker 1: super fast, 4:50 Speaker 1: with water. 4:51 Speaker 1: So 4:53 Speaker 1: but it should. Nitrile static water should be just fine. You need to you're going to need 4:59 Speaker 1: I mean, in a 5 mg bottle of SLU-, you're gonna need to at least put 2 mils of water in to make sure that it dissolves. You're also gonna need to swirl it and let it sit. It's not gonna immediately break down and and look perfectly clear as water. 5:14 Speaker 1: If it does, 5:16 Speaker 1: sometimes that sometimes it will 5:19 Speaker 1: even after sitting and swirling and putting even 3 mils of water in. You know, if 2 mils isn't enough and still not breaking down, I would add another mil of water, adjust the math for your dose. But 5:29 Speaker 1: if you still see little flakes, 5:33 Speaker 1: that is an indication that maybe it got damaged in transit. Right? It could have been been in, like, hot conditions for too long. 5:43 Speaker 1: And 5:44 Speaker 1: I would say wherever you got it, 5:47 Speaker 1: ask for a replacement, and good people of the world will give you a replacement. 5:53 Speaker 0: There it is. I got some right now that's a little bit cloudy, and I'm fine with it. 5:57 Speaker 0: Well, not too worried about it personally. 6:00 Speaker 0: How come HGH frag 1 71 dash 1 91 is not as popular as Tesamorelin? 6:06 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a good 1. Go for it. Okay. So HGH 6:10 Speaker 1: frag 1 71, 1 91, Regular HGH, the actual HGH chain has a 191 amino acids. K? HGH frag is a fragment of that, only 171, 6:21 Speaker 1: and that is the portion that's avail that is responsible for fat burning, not 6:27 Speaker 1: all the other actual gross hormone 6:30 Speaker 1: potentials. 6:33 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin 6:34 Speaker 1: is completely 6:36 Speaker 1: different. So that we're we're comparing apples to oranges. Tesamorelin 6:40 Speaker 1: is a 6:41 Speaker 1: HGH secretagogue telling your body to make more of its natural 6:47 Speaker 1: regular 6:48 Speaker 1: HGH, 6:49 Speaker 1: which is a 191 amino acids, but it's it's being naturally created. So those 2 are different. Why is HGH frag not as popular? Tesamorelin is is 6:59 Speaker 1: is a lot safer. You're getting the full effect of all of the HGH. 7:04 Speaker 1: It's FDA approved. 7:06 Speaker 1: Frag 1 71 1 9 1 is 7:10 Speaker 1: is not it is just a fragment, and it's not very stable and sometimes can be a little bit strong and providing some 7:18 Speaker 1: some negative insulin effects. 7:20 Speaker 0: Yeah. AOD 7:22 Speaker 1: 9 6 0 4 is also 171 7:25 Speaker 1: amino acids. K? It is but it is a synthetic version and made to and so it is a lot more resilient and stable 7:33 Speaker 1: and does not degrade nearly as much as the HGH frag 171. 7:38 Speaker 1: So those are the same things, but AOD is just a lot more stable compound and 7:44 Speaker 1: is better now. 7:47 Speaker 1: So there's that's it. 7:49 Speaker 1: Go. 7:52 Speaker 0: Wanna take this 1? Yeah. Sure. So 7:55 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on NA 3 or on NA 9 3 1 aka bioglutide? 8:02 Speaker 1: Follow-up question, will I mess up 8:04 Speaker 1: the efficacy of my peptides if I draw my solution from just 1 syringe? 8:09 Speaker 1: I don't want to pin myself 3 times. I sometimes do MOTS c n NAD and Reta. 8:16 Speaker 1: So 8:18 Speaker 1: so there's n a d NA 9 3 1 aka a bioglutide. 8:22 Speaker 1: I have not tried it, but 8:25 Speaker 1: it is a 8:27 Speaker 1: 4 agonist, 8:28 Speaker 1: k, 8:30 Speaker 1: and and is made only orally. 8:32 Speaker 1: So whoever is making this is saying that they have made a pill that is Retatrutide, 8:38 Speaker 1: GLP-1GIP 8:40 Speaker 1: GCG 8:41 Speaker 1: plus 0.25, which is the IGF-one. 8:46 Speaker 1: And and they've made it into an effective pill. Well, here is the problem. 8:51 Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't even really made an effective GLP-one 8:54 Speaker 1: pill. 8:55 Speaker 1: I've tried the GLP-one pill. I've had tons of friends try it, and you have to start with, like, 9:00 Speaker 1: 2.5 9:03 Speaker 1: mg pills and just and be at 20 pills a day by the end of the month. Well, thank you. 9:09 Speaker 0: So note to Ann is just not it's just not nearly as effective, 9:13 Speaker 1: as actual 9:15 Speaker 1: GLP-one. 9:17 Speaker 1: So my doubts 9:19 Speaker 1: are that now they have perfected a pill that has all 4. 9:22 Speaker 1: Right. Doesn't really make any sense. 9:25 Speaker 1: Cool. It's out there, and somebody's saying, hey. This is what it is, and and maybe, but I just don't think it really works 9:31 Speaker 1: yet. No. I haven't tried it, but we would know about it a lot more. 9:35 Speaker 1: And why haven't they perfected maybe just like the 2, right, GLP and GIP 9:40 Speaker 1: Right. Into a pill 1st. Although, I know that I've heard that that can happen, but obviously, it's not perfect and widely used. 9:49 Speaker 1: So 9:49 Speaker 1: so I guess to answer the question is Take some time. Will 9:53 Speaker 1: it affect the efficacy? 9:56 Speaker 1: Oh, there's my thoughts. Now drawing everything up in 1 syringe, will it affect the efficacy? No. Totally do it. I understand. It sucks 10:04 Speaker 1: injecting yourself. 10:05 Speaker 1: You can draw, draw, draw, and do 1 injection as long as those peptides mix together and your solution is still clear like water. 10:12 Speaker 1: Some peptides, 10:14 Speaker 1: you mix 1 of them and now it doesn't mix well, the other turns it cloudy. I would not inject that. 10:19 Speaker 0: Yeah. 10:20 Speaker 0: I, you know, I've gone over this numerous times where I inject most mine into an empty bottle and then I do 1 syringe because I use a brand new syringe it's not dulled. 10:29 Speaker 0: The more times you inject that into a bottle, that's going to dull the syringe, and if you hit your stomach, 10:34 Speaker 0: you know, you might get a little lump, especially with NAD. NAD is known to sting a bit, so personally, I'll just give you my opinion on this answers. I do my Retta, I do my GLP-three separate, I just leave that 1 alone, I like to do that separate, 10:47 Speaker 0: and I will mix most of the other ones, 10:50 Speaker 0: unless like there's a wide range of like what they do, like Retta and like an AOD, would never mix those 2, they're totally different peptides. So, that's my personal preference. I think you to answer your question, 11:01 Speaker 0: could you? Yes, you could. 11:04 Speaker 0: That's just my answer. I don't mix anything with Reta, personally. Fair enough. Yep. 11:08 Speaker 0: I've been on TRT for 6 months. Been doing 50 units twice a week. I inject it on my glutes and alternative cheek every other day. Why is it always sore for days? 11:21 Speaker 0: It's a good 1. Alright. 11:23 Speaker 1: I 11:24 Speaker 1: guess I will take you this. So I don't know. I'm guessing that you are 11:28 Speaker 1: if you're doing testosterone siponate, that's what most people are doing because it's a long ester and generally tolerated. Well, a lot of the, like, clinical test siponate is made at 200 mg/ml. 11:40 Speaker 1: So it's 200 mg of the actual drug 11:42 Speaker 1: in 1 ml of total liquid. K? A 11:48 Speaker 1: lot of test siponate, a lot of good test siponate, 11:51 Speaker 1: it comes actually dosed a little bit higher at 250 11:55 Speaker 1: mg/ml. 11:57 Speaker 1: Right. 11:58 Speaker 1: That is maybe that is a little bit too high. Sometimes it's just dosed a little too densely for some people's muscles. 12:05 Speaker 1: Some people tolerate it very well, some people don't. 12:08 Speaker 1: So you my guess, I don't know, you might be doing SIP 2 50. 12:14 Speaker 1: If so, 12:15 Speaker 1: yeah, you might be 1 of those people that it's just a little too dense for your muscles, so you're getting that little knot. Some tricks of the trade 12:22 Speaker 1: are, 12:24 Speaker 1: draw your draw your shot, run it under some really hot water, get it warm. 12:29 Speaker 1: And then once you do your injection, just put your knuckle in your glute, massage it, and then go for a jog for 5 minutes. 10 minutes. Longer the jog, better to get that knot, like, 12:39 Speaker 1: get it all get all that that foreign oil just into your muscles and spread out into your blood. Yeah. The last thing, you sure as hell do not want to just 12:48 Speaker 1: do an injection and then just sit down. They do have to. Like, it's gonna not up and that's what makes it sore the next day. 12:56 Speaker 0: Tricks of the trade, man. I've been doing that for a long time where you you pull it out, you draw it out and you run it over hot water. It's always worked well for me, but you can also do instead of doing 2 times a week, you can break that up and do a little bit each day. It's a little bit more pinning obviously, but that might be the case. And if you're talking about, like Will said, Discipinate at 2 50 mg, 13:18 Speaker 0: you're talking 13:19 Speaker 0: that's a little bit higher than a normal testosterone TRT dosage. I'm not going to judge or care, I'm just saying most people 13:26 Speaker 0: would recommend a 200 a week, or 180 a week, give or take. Everybody's different, but the 2 50 might be a little high for you. This might be the case. Well, I guess what I was saying is the dose of the actual bottle that you get. Right? The dose at 200 might be dosed at 250 mg/ml. 13:42 Speaker 1: There's nothing a person can do to change that 13:45 Speaker 1: if that's what you have. Now, frankly, most 13:48 Speaker 1: good sipping aids 13:49 Speaker 1: most clinical sipping aids are dosed at 200. 13:53 Speaker 1: Most any other good, like, UGL sips are dosed at 2 50. 13:57 Speaker 1: There you go. It's what it is. 14:00 Speaker 0: Go for 14:01 Speaker 1: Next 1 is 14:04 Speaker 1: alright. I started MOTS c and NAD plus this week. 14:07 Speaker 1: I've been using the same okay. 14:11 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Been using the same syringe to pull my 20 units for MOTS c and 25 for NAD plus. I haven't felt a difference yet. How long till I feel a difference? Should I increase my dosage? No. Wait. You just started. 14:26 Speaker 0: Give it some time. Yeah. That's not a long time, to answer that question, sorry, just pulled the mic from you, but no, that's give it some time, man, this stuff is not miracle stuff. I mean, the GLP-1s, 14:37 Speaker 0: those will work really quickly, So if you've started that maybe and that's why you're asking that, 14:42 Speaker 0: it's most aren't like that. You gotta go slow and give it some time and let it build up into your system and let your body get used to it. So my answer to that is no. Don't increase it. Go slow. 14:53 Speaker 1: Yeah. Don't increase it. I don't know what you're yeah. Don't increase it. The MOTS-3C, you actually should start to feel here soon. The NAD, 15:01 Speaker 1: like, I mean, depends on what you wanna feel. Right? If you do a big, a lot of NAD, 15:06 Speaker 1: it'll start making you tingly. And I don't know if you want to really that's not really the goal is to feel the actual NAD immediately. 15:13 Speaker 1: But 15:14 Speaker 1: especially NAD is a long play. It's not yeah. It's working 15:18 Speaker 1: in 15:20 Speaker 1: inside your body and your mitochondria, and you're gonna start seeing results over 15:24 Speaker 1: time. Right. So gradually 15:27 Speaker 1: Stay there. Go for it, brother. Give it a little bit of time. 15:31 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this protocol for mitochondrial health? Taking 1 at a time, question mark. 15:37 Speaker 1: 1, 15:39 Speaker 1: senolytic like FOXO 4. 15:42 Speaker 1: 1st 2, 15:43 Speaker 1: mitochondrial repair with SS 31. 15:47 Speaker 1: Oh, take oh, sorry. Like, FOXO4 1st. 15:50 Speaker 1: Number 2, mitochondrial repair with SS 31. Number 3, mitochondrial replication with MOTS-three. Number 4, 15:58 Speaker 1: then work through the rest of the stuff, SLU-332, 16:02 Speaker 1: 5Amino-1MQ, 16:03 Speaker 1: and NAD. 16:05 Speaker 0: There you go. That's a question there. 16:09 Speaker 0: I mean, I would say you do 1. 16:11 Speaker 0: Definitely start slow, like we said, I mean, you can 16:15 Speaker 0: how are you going to know which peptide 16:17 Speaker 0: is doing what if you don't kind of go slow and do 1 at a time and start to see how you feel? 16:22 Speaker 0: If you take 4, like, you know, we're huge fans of peptides, we've been taking them a long time, but we have a lot of experience with them because we've done it for a long time. So my answer to that would be go slow man, just do 1 at a time, see how your body responds to it, to that particular compound, 16:38 Speaker 0: and then after time you can start adding. I mean, I take a lot of peptides, but I know how my body responds to each 1. 16:46 Speaker 0: So I've put the time in on that. What do you think, Will? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 16:51 Speaker 1: I guess 16:52 Speaker 1: 2 things. When I think of that that total stack, like, great. Yeah. I don't think I think that that is 16:58 Speaker 1: that's awesome, and nothing 17:00 Speaker 1: is going to nothing is really you know, nothing is is 17:05 Speaker 1: duplicating itself and redundant. 17:07 Speaker 1: They will all be very helpful and all be safe to take together. 17:11 Speaker 1: But but, yes, introducing them 1 at a time if we truly want to you really wanna know what 1 thing is doing 17:19 Speaker 1: and not I don't know. I'm getting good results. I'm liking it, but I don't know what's what it did. Right? You probably need to really introduce 1 and go about a month, 17:28 Speaker 1: then introduce another. 17:30 Speaker 1: Right. Wait a month. Or, I mean, even better for your own research. Right? It's like, do 1 for a month and pull it, another. Pull it. 17:40 Speaker 1: But it's gonna take all of those. It's gonna take maybe that long to really know what the heck it's doing. 17:46 Speaker 0: Right. 17:48 Speaker 0: I agree. Alright. For someone starting out with peptides, 17:51 Speaker 0: do you have a recommended stack or plan to ease them into the mix and learn what works best for them? So we kind of just answered that, but yeah, we definitely recommend just easing into it, trying it, seeing how your body responds to it. Again, guys, we everybody's a science project, know, like, you know, 18:09 Speaker 0: I don't respond well to different testosterone because I've tried it. I don't, you know, test P, I don't do well with that. I get big welts on my butt, it's just there's certain people that don't. How do I know that? I tried it, I've done it numerous times, I realized that's what it was in particular. 18:24 Speaker 0: So again, there's so many amazing peptides, but how are you going to know which 1 does what unless you take the time to kind of go slow 18:33 Speaker 0: and see which 1 does what and see how your body in particular 18:37 Speaker 1: responds to it. So that would be my answer on that 1. Yeah, and starting out with peptides, recommend a stack. Well, 1st of all, there's all these peptides that are there for different reasons. So I can't just be like, Hey, try this, Right? Because who I mean, I don't know. What do you want to do? So 1st of all, I would say Objectives. If you could give me a saying, hey. The here's my problem, and what are some good beginners to solve that problem? I can give you a better answer. Now if I were just although just taking taking a stab in the dark, I would say try 19:06 Speaker 1: BPC 19:07 Speaker 1: and TB 500 blended together. Those are incredibly 19:12 Speaker 1: safe. They will not like, there's no stinging. 19:15 Speaker 1: They will really help your overall we all probably have aches and pains, you know, that will really help 19:21 Speaker 1: overall 19:23 Speaker 1: aches and pains, reducing inflammation. 19:26 Speaker 1: So I would try that. 19:28 Speaker 1: And that's my most basic 1 to try that freaking works. You've heard about it. Everybody's heard about it. Why? Because it works. Hell, yeah. It's a great peptide. 19:38 Speaker 1: Okay. Some peptides can be taken 3 times a day. True. 19:42 Speaker 1: Does it make sense to split that daily dose? 0.333 before a workout, 3rd after workout, 19:48 Speaker 1: and the last before bed, or will the smaller dose not be effective? 19:53 Speaker 1: Peptide example is Tesamorelin. 19:56 Speaker 0: Okay. 19:58 Speaker 1: Okay. So if we are talking Tesamorelin, 20:00 Speaker 1: right, again, every there's a different answer for every peptide for this question. Okay? I can't. So I will answer the question for Tesamorelin. So Tesamorelin's 20:10 Speaker 1: an HCGH secreted god. Right? Tells your body to try to put out more HGH. We our body naturally creates HGH in pulses about 3 or about 6 times a day. 20:20 Speaker 1: Biggest pulse being after we go to sleep. The smallest pulses are midday. 20:26 Speaker 1: So normally, it's a midday, guys. We don't really build that much muscle because we have all these other stressors that are happening, and our body is not really willing to do that. Plus, we have small little growth hormone pulses. 20:37 Speaker 1: I think that you are much better off taking the Tesamorelin 20:41 Speaker 1: in 1 full dose at night to really boost that big pulse. Okay? Because at nighttime is when our body wants to grow the muscle. 20:50 Speaker 1: You could if you'd split it into 3, 20:52 Speaker 1: those the the amount that you're increasing, those already weak pulses 20:56 Speaker 1: could be very minimal. Right? Probably just a little bit, and who knows what other stressors you have going on that'll just negate even 21:04 Speaker 1: that little bit of pulse? 21:07 Speaker 1: I don't think that 21:09 Speaker 1: so the my answer is at night, 21:12 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Now Yep. I agree. If the goal is to kinda try to help build muscle, there are PEG- MGF is a good 1 to do right after workout and same with IGF-1LR-three. 21:23 Speaker 1: Those will be a lot more effective, 21:26 Speaker 1: yeah, 21:27 Speaker 1: post workout and maybe in a couple doses. 21:30 Speaker 0: Throughout. Yeah, different answers for each peptide. Contingent upon what peptide we're talking about. So, we answer different ways. 43 year old male, I've been on my fitness journey since March of this year. 21:41 Speaker 0: In this journey, I started using Tirzepatide, 21:44 Speaker 0: TRT-one hundred weekly, 21:46 Speaker 0: Tirzepatide, 21:46 Speaker 0: AOD, 21:47 Speaker 0: and Clo. I do blood work monthly. 21:50 Speaker 0: My labs showed ALT, SGPT, 21:54 Speaker 0: 70, 21:55 Speaker 0: SGOT-fifty 21:56 Speaker 0: 6. 21:57 Speaker 0: I don't drink, I eat clean. I just started Tesamorelin 22:01 Speaker 0: to hopefully target some of the visceral fat, 22:03 Speaker 0: around the liver. I ordered glutathione. 22:06 Speaker 0: My question is, is there any peptides that can help with liver? 22:10 Speaker 1: Can peptides cause issues with liver? A lot going on there. A lot going on. Okay, so this is 1 of those questions where there's not enough information for me to answer and I'm not a doctor and there could be, who knows, man? Your medical I don't know your medical history. 22:26 Speaker 1: I don't know what other maybe actual, like, you know, pharmaceutical medications that you're taking that could even skew the test. There's just so much, and I and I and I don't really wanna give 22:38 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not here to give advice anyway. 22:41 Speaker 1: I know that NAD plus has been used in 22:45 Speaker 1: liver repair for, like, late stage alcoholics. 22:50 Speaker 1: Also, 22:51 Speaker 1: the fact that you've just started your fitness journey in '43, you may be eating clean now and 22:57 Speaker 1: not drinking, but the assumption it's it's you've you spent 42 other years. Right? Right. Maybe not. Okay? And that's how 23:06 Speaker 1: liver health and 23:08 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of visceral fat around the liver. 23:11 Speaker 1: That's how that happens is over years of not great eating. 23:16 Speaker 0: And I don't That know tells me I've been on a fitness journey since March. So that to me tells me that if you're just starting your fitness journey, probably haven't 23:24 Speaker 0: been into fitness for a very long time, so you might be overweight. 23:27 Speaker 0: We don't know how much you weigh, there's a lot going on there to answer that, so it's kind of hard 23:33 Speaker 1: answer that 1, and we don't wanna steer you in the wrong direction. We're not doctors, we don't know you. Exactly, but I will say good for you, man. Like, that's awesome. Keep going. I don't even care. Whatever. Whenever you start your fitness journey, you kick ass, dude. I bet you're happier. 23:45 Speaker 1: I bet you're happier, and you're about to get a lot even even more happy. You know, there's a lot of like empowerment that comes with 23:52 Speaker 1: actually putting work in and getting results. 23:55 Speaker 1: So 23:57 Speaker 1: dude, I would keep going, you know, monitor that with your doctor, right? 24:03 Speaker 1: But just keep going. Tesamorelin will be good. The GLP-three 24:07 Speaker 1: is a great idea, actually will help out with that condition also. 24:11 Speaker 0: Love it. 24:13 Speaker 0: Alright. Last 1, man. You wanna take us home? Yes. 24:16 Speaker 1: Anyway, I can find out how to open that 1. Okay. Yes. Alright. 24:21 Speaker 1: Hi. I recently have gotten into peptides, and I love listening to podcasts to learn more. I have 2 questions. 24:28 Speaker 1: For me, I'm a 28 year old female, man. I'm trying to lose close to 70 pounds. Before I had my son 7 years ago, I was comfortably 1 35, but now after my 2nd child was born 4 months ago, I'm about 200. 24:40 Speaker 1: I started tirzepatide. 24:42 Speaker 1: I do 2.5 mg 24:44 Speaker 1: 2 times a week 24:45 Speaker 1: about 2 weeks ago, and I've already lost 10 pounds. 24:49 Speaker 1: I want your opinion on if now would be a good time to start Tesamorelin 24:54 Speaker 1: as well since I'm getting back in the gym or if I'm better off adding that in when I'm down another 30 pounds or so. My 2nd question too is about my mom. 25:04 Speaker 1: Mom has osteoporosis 25:06 Speaker 1: and osteoarthritis, 25:07 Speaker 1: And at only 56, the doctors are telling her that her X rays look like they're from a 90 year old woman. She's coming around with the idea. I don't have to try peptides because her next step is surgery in her hands for the arthritis. 25:19 Speaker 1: She also has very delicate skin now because of the steroid injections they've been giving her for that. K? I was planning on getting her on the glow stack to see if that will give her some relief from the pain and help the delicate skin, but would you suggest that or AOD? 25:33 Speaker 1: I would like to start with 1 at a time because she's weary about injecting anything, but after talking to her doc and having the peace of mind that she is safe, she's coming around to the idea. Thanks. 25:44 Speaker 1: Okay. Lot going on. Yeah. Let me give my answers in 2 parts. 25:49 Speaker 0: 1, for 25:51 Speaker 1: you, 25:54 Speaker 1: the 25:55 Speaker 1: okay. Yeah. Test around. Cool. So 25:58 Speaker 1: with tirzepatide, 25:59 Speaker 1: 1 risk is losing 26:02 Speaker 1: a lot of weight and part of that weight is muscle, okay, which is gonna lower your metabolism. We don't want wanna lose as little muscle as possible. Tesamorelin is gonna really, really, really help 26:10 Speaker 1: keeping some of your muscle on. 26:13 Speaker 1: And now's a great time. I would say go ahead. The 1 thing to be wary about is keep your dose start low. Okay? If you notice that you are retaining water, 26:21 Speaker 1: k, then your dose is too high. Lower the dose and then slowly creep up. Okay? 26:28 Speaker 1: Because you that will be 26:30 Speaker 1: that'll not make you happy in your journey to lose weight if you start looking like you're looking a little bit plumper than you were before. So but that's easy fix. It's just water. It'll go away. 26:41 Speaker 1: And the Tirzepatide, you be the judge on the on the dosage increase. Okay? You do not wanna feel nauseous. You don't you don't you want appetite reduction, 26:51 Speaker 1: but not too much appetite reduction, and you want it so once it stops working at your current dose, then it's time to just slightly 26:57 Speaker 1: bump up. Okay? 26:59 Speaker 1: Then for your mom, yeah, absolutely. Look look at people who are elderly 27:03 Speaker 1: have 27:05 Speaker 1: their their skin and bones are getting a bit more brittle. Okay? 27:09 Speaker 1: I don't see the need for AOD for her. You didn't mention any weight loss. That's really what that's for. It's not Yeah. Very different. Very different. 27:17 Speaker 1: I would suggest 27:19 Speaker 1: I mean, okay. Let's put it this way. I have given my mother. My mother's similar. I don't know about the bone, but she's old. She's 80. 27:26 Speaker 1: I would say, Ipam Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin. Get an HGH secretagogue. 27:30 Speaker 1: Okay? That is going to help her her osteoporosis. 27:34 Speaker 1: Okay? Her bone strength is gonna go up. 27:37 Speaker 1: Keeping on muscle is gonna go up, right, as we're old. And and it's gonna help strengthen her skin. It's gonna strengthen everything in her body. 27:44 Speaker 1: So that's what I would do. Also, for my mother who has arthritis in her hands, we have started we gave her a BPC TB blend to inject right into her hands. 27:55 Speaker 1: And literally, went to the doctor after that, after doing, shoot, 10 days of it. 28:01 Speaker 1: And the doctor's like, okay. We done you know, you still have arthritis, and she's going, well, I don't feel it in my right hand. I don't think you're right, doctor. 28:08 Speaker 1: Pretty freaking amazing. Like so that's what I would go with. The skin is brittle, yes, for elder people, so you know, maybe help her out, 28:17 Speaker 1: but there's an easier chance that she's gonna bleed or 28:20 Speaker 1: you know, rip the skin a bit, so you just need to be careful. 28:24 Speaker 0: Yeah, and I would just kind of get to piggyback on that. You don't want to do glow, especially if it's their 1st time glow, there's a lot of people that have a hard time with it because it has the GHK-two copper peptide and a lot of people don't do well with copper, like a lot. It stings for a lot of people, so you don't wanna scare her away forever with injecting Glow. So as Will said, yeah, go with the BPC-157 28:46 Speaker 0: or the blend with the TB-five hundred as well, those 2 would be great, 28:50 Speaker 0: but not the Glow, I would recommend against it. Yeah, yep, yep. 28:54 Speaker 1: Alright. 28:55 Speaker 0: Cool, 28:56 Speaker 0: man, that was great. Those are some deeper questions. They were. You guys are throwing some curves at us, I love it. Good stuff. 29:02 Speaker 0: So guys, this will be dropping 29:04 Speaker 0: tomorrow, get it edited and we'll get it out tomorrow and then we will be setting it up next week where I'll be putting it on my story probably Wednesday, 29:13 Speaker 0: because we will be recording this on Thursday instead of Friday like normal. It'll still drop on Saturday, but I'll be having surgery on Friday, so we can't record that day. So yeah, until anything else before we go? 29:25 Speaker 1: No, that was cool. That was good people. Yeah. Awesome. I love the interest and I hope everybody is feeling better and getting better and happier 29:35 Speaker 0: of their experimentation with these. Yeah, man. It's been awesome, man. Good stuff out there. So alright, my friends. We will catch you next round. You have a great weekend. Later.