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1:09Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. Not in the studio. I am in Cabo, San Lucas. Nice sun staring at me on the left side. But in the office,
1:21Speaker 2like always, in the studio is my co host, Mr. William T. Haas. What's going on from the Mainland? I guess you're still in the Mainland. Looking buff. Looking you're looking bigger, dude. What's been eating? He's going on vacation.
1:36Speaker 2To Prague, then Italy, and we've already talked about it, so we're allowed to. He's gonna get hitched.
1:45Speaker 2cutting out sugar, which I've never seen him do that since I've known him. How's that going? It's going alright. It's going okay. It was a good week.
1:51Speaker 3But I know I've actually I have done a good job of really of just cutting out this, yes, incessant
1:58Speaker 3like, I've lived my life just, hey. If there's anything that I ever want to eat in front of me, cool. I'll just eat it. Right? And now
2:09Speaker 3yeah, not going for the real sugar. I'm like, no. Thank you. No. Thank you. I feel a lot better. I feel better. Shit. I mean, I knew I mean, I've gone on,
2:19Speaker 3well, I guess I really haven't. I've done some, like, keto, some intermittent fasting stuff, but I've just never really needed to get I'm just kinda blessed to be really tall and lean naturally, and
2:31Speaker 2I- Yeah, I wish I was like that, man. But I've been trying- But when Will and I, I mean, we've known each other for so long that like, you don't remember how old you were, but you definitely were obviously a few years before 40, so maybe 37 or something. You were always eating the cookies and shit
2:46Speaker 2in the meetings and stuff. I'm like, dude, watch, man. It's gonna come back and bite you, and it's it's
2:51Speaker 2still has never done that, man. So I guess I I guess I stand corrected. Yeah. It hasn't really bit me. But and, you know, when it has been,
3:01Speaker 3it also is really easy to eat all that stuff if you're, like, doing if you're doing HGH and you're doing testosterone,
3:09Speaker 3in the last 3 months now, my testosterone is down to maybe 50 mg a week, and I'm not doing about that for a 2nd. How how do you feel?
3:25Speaker 3I feel good now. I think I have evened out a bit. I'm also taking HCG and then clomiphene to really to to counteract
3:33Speaker 3it, right, to get my nuts going and and get my natural production going. But there for sure was a letdown. There was but I also but I also weaned down. I didn't just go from
4:12Speaker 2Just bring some PT-one hundred 41 on your trip and you'll be good to Oh, yeah. There's other things that are not like that. But it does kinda want you kinda like start thinking about it. It does definitely help. It does. But that's so, you know, so it it was a I I noticed the let down for sure.
4:28Speaker 3I'm I will when I get the chance, an opportunity, I will go right back up and do go back up to doing testosterone. That's for sure.
4:36Speaker 2Great. Remember Adolfo? His wife was pregnant. He's like, give me some testosterone. Exactly. He's like, thank god. The day that I hear the day that I heard that she's pregnant. Yep.
4:52Speaker 2I love it, man. Well, exciting. Good stuff, man. So let's get it kicked off so you guys can get back to work, and I can go eat with my fam. So you wanna start us off? Sure. Good. The q and a episode. Okay. Q and a. Here we go, guys. Question number 1. Hey, guys.
5:25Speaker 3I am all set with my peptide stat, but I need some help and advice on diet and exercise. You guys preach about it all the time and that it needs to be the 1st thing that we do along with hormones that need to be in check. I know this podcast is all about peptides, but can you guys talk about diet and exercise recommendations
5:41Speaker 3for a 50 year old woman who needs to lose another 30 pounds? Any advice is appreciated.
6:12Speaker 2know, talking about in regards to getting the hormones right. So I took it kind of as she was kind of curious on what she needs to get ran to get her hormones. So here, I've been having this question pop up a lot because we've been talking about it a lot, even my wife's mom.
6:45Speaker 2that's gonna help you in regards to that. I know that you're 50 years old, and I believe that Will and I will both agree on this. You could tell me, Will, is I
6:59Speaker 2just that's just the truth. I think that, you know, women still need to eat about a gram of protein
7:04Speaker 2per body weight. And I think a lot of people, a lot of women don't do that. A lot of women think that they need to do cardio rather than resistance training. So resistance training,
7:34Speaker 2you got to get that in there. I would say for a 50 year old, at least 4 times a week, shoot, if you can do 5, do 5. If you really like cardio,
7:42Speaker 2you know, you want to do maybe 20 to 30 minutes and that's it 3 times a week. Because that resistance training is really the key
8:06Speaker 3everybody, if you wanna lose weight, if you wanna hey, if you wanna lose weight, you need to lift weights. If you wanna gain muscle, you need to lift weights. Or resistance training. We say resistance training, that can be bands. That can be like it doesn't have to be like hard metal iron. Alright?
8:20Speaker 3It could be bands, but it needs to essentially, the goal is to make the muscles sore. K? That is your key. So when we are you have to we are tearing the muscle down. So you need to make them work harder than they're capable of
8:33Speaker 3so they actually cause thousands of small little micro tears. Right? And then when you eat protein over the next day and sleep,
8:41Speaker 3it fills in those micro tears and your muscles get grow back stronger, tighter, denser,
8:52Speaker 3But there's a reason if you go look at go to the gym. Look at the women in the weight room.
9:01Speaker 3Right. It just also, if you're just doing cardio, here's the issues. Well, a, your body's gonna break down because it's just a lot of repetitive stress. Right? You probably won't get sore after the 2nd 1st, 2nd, 3rd time you you do any cardio. Okay? Because our bodies the human body just gets really good at doing anything. It adapts like crazy. Okay? And it it tries to find the the path of least resistance. So if it can adapt to doing cardio, then it then it will,
9:32Speaker 3and your body burns a whole ton of calories. You burn they burn say something like 400 calories over a 24 hour period of your body just repairing. So if a muscle's sore, just trying to create new muscle out of thin air raises your metabolism by 400 calories a day,
9:52Speaker 3you need to lift weights. Cardio is gonna just burn calories off you. It's gonna burn muscle. K? You're gonna burn your muscle off.
9:58Speaker 3You're gonna injure yourself, and you're not even get that managed calorie burn, and you're not even getting you're not gonna get that recovery calorie burn. You're just, as soon as you step off that treadmill, that's it. Calories are done. If you lift weights, cool. You lift weights for up to 0.5 hour.
10:11Speaker 3You're gonna get calorie burn over the next, you know, 24 hours or so. So lift weights. It'll be good for your body, especially at 50 years old. Resistance training is how you make your bone densities
10:25Speaker 3You actually cause Yeah. Tears in those bone fibers, and they will they will condense.
10:31Speaker 3let me see. Looking at her stack. Right? I would, as a 50 year old, I would add in some HGH secretagogue,
10:39Speaker 3because that is absolutely gonna help increase your bone density. It's gonna help recover
10:44Speaker 3your muscles faster and everything in your whole body will recover faster. So I would think about adding that in. Absolutely. So
10:51Speaker 3weight training, you gotta do it. Yeah. Do it 4 days a week, and it doesn't have to be long. Right? Don't overtrain.
10:56Speaker 330 minutes. You know, the goal is to work out every muscle in your body at the very least once a week to soreness, and it should be sore 2 to 2 2 days or so. K? 2 to 3 days. If a person can accomplish that, awesome. The nutrition,
11:11Speaker 3protein. Hit your grams of protein. If you're a woman even and you're actually lifting weights,
11:25Speaker 3per pound. The the truth is if you can stay away from sugar and you can hit your protein, I guarantee that's gonna make a huge difference.
11:38Speaker 3that's the hard thing, and your protein intake needs to be from real food. Protein shakes, okay, maybe 2 or so a day, but
11:53Speaker 3and right before bed. Eat protein right before you go to bed, don't eat carbs right before you go to bed.
11:59Speaker 3When we are sleeping, that's when we're building all of our muscle, and it needs material to build. So you need to give it some stuff right before you go to sleep,
12:08Speaker 3Carbohydrates, we eat the carbs, it takes them 2, 3 hours or so to finally break down and turn into sugar to make usable fuel, and if we're sleeping when they've turned into sugar, they decide, meh, I'll just store them as fat for later use, and that's no good.
12:30Speaker 2Alright. Hey, guys. I work roughly 18 oh, this 1 is a good 1. Hey, guys. I work roughly 18 to 20 hours per day. What do you Monday through Friday. I sleep about 2 to 3 hours on those days. I fully understand sleep is important and I need to get more of it, but it's just not possible at this time. Is there a stack you would recommend someone with a lifestyle to hopefully negate some of the neg negative effects of being sleep deprived. Thanks.
13:08Speaker 2Whoo. Man, I just would love to know what this guy does. What do you do? Do, dude? 18 to 20 hours, Monday through Friday.
13:16Speaker 2How old does he say that? 45. 45. You are oh, 45. You're gonna hit a wall, dude. Hell yeah. I can't believe you haven't already. So,
13:24Speaker 3yeah. Yeah. My here's my here's my take on it is you could try DSIP to help you get into REM sleep really fast to just maximize those 2 to 3 hours of sleep,
13:34Speaker 3and to make sure that you're not wasting that small time that you have trying to fall asleep. So d DSIP,
13:54Speaker 3You can die from just from not sleeping enough. It can give you lots and lots of problems.
13:59Speaker 2I won't go into detail, but I think we all know. Yeah. So, you know, I've talked about it a lot, and I'm telling you, man, you're gonna hit a wall. You're 45, so you and I are damn close in age. I lived that those on those hours for quite some time, and I did fine until I didn't, and I hit a wall. So it was brutal. It knocked me on my ass, and I'm still trying to rectify the bones, so to speak.
14:27Speaker 2so you need to work that. Are you on TRT? Does he say that? I don't think so. You definitely need to be if you are not.
14:37Speaker 2we'll talk about that. I would say your immune system's probably shocked because you're not sleeping much, so I'd add in a TA-one and
14:47Speaker 2energy. But brother, if you don't fix your sleep, dude, the peptides aren't gonna sorry to be blunt, do shit. You're going to get nailed. So
14:54Speaker 2I don't know what you do for a living. I would love for you to shoot us a DM and tell me what you do for a living. I'm super curious
15:04Speaker 2that's just the blunt truth, brother. You need to fix that or you're gonna run into some health problems, man. Yes. Yep. Telling you. MODaphoneil has literally made her shift work this way. Age, you know, at 25?
15:22Speaker 3That's tough, dude. There's it's there's you could do some things to help you just get through the day and maybe function, but, like, internally,
15:35Speaker 3Alright. Number 3. 1st off, love you guys and your show. I started listening late last year and have learned so much from the podcast in school.
16:11Speaker 3And, 2 mg of Wolverine, 2 mg of Kertilax, 1 mg TA 0.5 a mg Tessa, 0.5 mg IPA all daily. I know you've had multiple discussions about mixing multiple peptides in a syringe, but curious what your thoughts are about mixing a week's worth of peptides in a vial.
16:40Speaker 37 migs of SS-thirty 1 into a vial and then draw out 2 migs every morning? Could I guarantee I would get a, 1 big and both draw? Absolutely. Yeah. I was curious how you're gonna answer that. So curious how I was gonna answer. So the math works out, dude. Like, so 1st of all, in the example of SS-31 and MOTS-3one
17:14Speaker 32 Migs, you will get 1 Mig of each if you mix equal parts. Right? The hard part is I definitely think that SS 31 should people should be doing more of that. Right? I think like 5 mgs. I knew you're gonna say that, dude. 5 mgs to 1 mgs, and so you just gotta do the math on that 1. Right? If you wanna go 7 days, right, you need to put 35 mgs of
17:39Speaker 3And then you'll get 5 and 1. So, yes, dude, your math is correct and totally that's okay. The things I wouldn't do this with though is the Tessa IpA
17:49Speaker 3seems to not do well with other compounds. Also, Reta seems to any of the GLPs don't do well
18:11Speaker 3But all the other stuff that you said, if you can do the math on it, yeah, you're right, and that that works, and I and I think that's a great idea.
18:19Speaker 2Yeah. It's great. I agree. I was wondering what you're gonna say on that, Will. As long as you calculate the math, that's all it is, then I think you're good. I mean, it just depends on how how I mean, I'm all about, like, being efficient and cutting down on time.
18:34Speaker 2I mean, I would probably prefer per personally to just do, you know, them and the same thing each day, but you do you, man. Yeah. We both agree. I was curious how Will was gonna answer that because we didn't talk about that. So, yeah, I agree with Will. Go ahead and do it, man. Save yourself some time. Yep. Alright.
18:50Speaker 2What's up, guys? I'm a 45 year old male who just started Peptides a few months ago. I love the show and listened so much that down my other morning, my wife heard me listening and said, I hear these guys so much, I feel like they're lyrics. That's hilarious.
19:04Speaker 2That was funny. I read this this morning. I was busting up. That was rad. I started a stack 12 weeks ago of Retta,
19:22Speaker 2I've seen numerous doctors, so many tests done, but no answer. After 2 weeks being on that stack, I haven't had a stomach issue,
19:29Speaker 2yet. My life has changed incredibly. Wow. That is freaking awesome, man. Here's my question. I just stopped Clo.
19:48Speaker 3Were you blown away by that? Yeah. I mean, kind of, but not really because we keep hearing just miracle stories, but, like, that's amazing because that would suck. You're living your whole life like
20:11Speaker 2so what I would say, if you're gonna cut out the clo, which is the main thing I think that is gonna be the best for you was the KPV. Yeah.
20:19Speaker 2And, you know, the copper is the only thing that you should worry about. I'm assuming that's why you're doing that. But just add in the KPV, actual KPV,
20:27Speaker 2and then the Wolverine, and then you could take tons of those. You can also take the orals of both. Can take that as well. You can take the oral KPV and the oral BPC-one
20:42Speaker 2But, yeah, was amazed that it it heal just so quick, but again, that's why everybody's taking these peptides because they're freaking awesome. Yeah. I think that so here's the here's my take on it, but it's
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22:27Speaker 3Are helping, especially the BPC, right, is helping that your mucus membrane inside of your stomach remain strong and and and stay. And now if you stop taking it, it's gonna revert back to where your body was naturally. So but I don't think it was as much the TB-five hundred and the GHK- inside of the CLO as it was the other 2, and so if you stop CLO, then absolutely, I would take BPC and KPV, either injectable or orals. Theoretically, the orals should work better for your situation,
22:56Speaker 3but you're but, man, some crazy things have happened. Who knows? Maybe you do that and and it comes back, and if it comes back, then just get back onto the CLO. How long can you take it? Frankly, yes, he's right. GHKC is the only 1 that we kind of worry about.
23:10Speaker 3I know people who've who are adamant about taking it for a year every day, and they're still alive.
23:16Speaker 3But as far as the BPC and KPV, you may take that every day for the rest of your life with no problems.
23:23Speaker 3And if that's what it takes to solve this stomach issue, I probably I would, I wouldn't blame you, and I would do the same thing. I would take it every day
23:31Speaker 2till I die. Good for you, man. How cool. Yeah. That's dope. I'm so I'm so stoked to hear that. You healed here through your gut. I don't know what you have, man. I would those doctors couldn't figure it out. That's crazy. But Well, we've been doing some, like, in house, you know, not
23:49Speaker 3dogs. And 1 of our employees' dog who has had, like, chronic diarrhea always entire life, and she started giving it KPV
24:36Speaker 3I wanted progesterone, but for some reason, he's waiting on that to see how I do on the estrogen 1st.
24:49Speaker 3as everything else. I keep hearing that HGH is something I definitely should be taking, but not sure what type and how to order this. So, you know, I think yeah. JD, what do you got to say to that 1?
25:07Speaker 2And, yeah, I think you should. I think you should. In regards to the confusing part, it's confusing to everybody for sure.
25:13Speaker 2Absolutely, we could help you. When it comes to getting it, you know, I can just give you the heads up on where I get it. And I don't mind doing that because I love it. I'm a big fan of it. So you could shoot me a DM wherever
25:28Speaker 2Instagram or wherever you found us, it'll get to Will and I, and I'd have to be happy to tell you where I I get it. But my my take is, yeah, you should. I think you I think at your age, any secretagogue is not gonna do do it for you. You're just, you know, hate to say it for lack of a better way to say it, you're a little bit too old for that.
25:44Speaker 2I think 1 IU without a doubt, maybe because of age, what do you think? Will, maybe. Could she push it to 2 IU? I think that's still low dose. Yeah, it is. But low and slow. Go take IU. I would just start with long I would start with 1 IU and just, I don't know, leave it there for a while.
26:03Speaker 2but I think, well, I both agree, it's it's in our it's in my top 2 forever. I I think it's great. And did it, I left my HGH at home and didn't bring it on this trip and I was bummed. So
26:14Speaker 2it is what it is, but yeah, I think you should do it and we will help you with that. And if you have some questions on how to do it, sure, of course, we'll help you with that. We have no problem.
26:40Speaker 2and feeling better than ever. 43 year old male, no kids in future. I walk 3 to 4 miles daily,
27:08Speaker 2seems like my values are on the low to mid range. What are the pros and cons of getting on TRT?
27:20Speaker 3You want me to go? I will go. Let me go give you my quick rundown on this. So what are the benefits, pros and cons of TRT? So if you're on testosterone, like Long you got. Here is, like, you your metabolism will speed up a bit. K? It'll be easier to burn fat. It'll be a lot, it'll be easier to build muscle.
27:42Speaker 3You're not, that's not truly like anabolic. You're not gonna just start popping muscles out at about 400 mg is what they call the anabolic threshold. So about then, then you're gonna your protein synthesis, which basically turning protein into muscle goes through the roof and you will start popping muscles out. But on a TRT dose,
28:03Speaker 3You sure as hell won't lose any muscle, but it'll help you gain muscle if that's the goal and you're working hard and you're eating enough and lifting enough weights trying to gain muscle. Your sex drive will go way up. Your
28:19Speaker 3You'll have more energy and motivation and not just like physical, but like your brain motivated. Like, right, you will be you'll be happier and more motivated to get stuff done.
28:39Speaker 3your body, our body has this much test in a man and this much estrogen. Okay? It likes this ratio. As soon as we add more tests, there's a potential for your estrogen to raise. Some people,
28:50Speaker 3estrogen goes really high, okay? They're just genetically predisposed to having higher estrogen when it changes. Some people's doesn't really change at all, okay? So just know
29:05Speaker 3you really shouldn't though, it shouldn't be creating a bunch of estrogen unless you're 1 of the unluckies that actually, that your body just happens to produce a lot of estrogen. You're not bad, it just is what it is. Some people are that way. So
29:16Speaker 3just be aware, 1 con is like, you gotta manage, you gotta pay attention to your body and manage your estrogen.
29:25Speaker 3retention, extra like excess water retention, looking a bit bloated, nipple sensitivity, that's a start of gyno,
29:42Speaker 3an AI, a low dose of an AI and be consistent with it. So there's some cons. The other con is, yeah, in some people, right, your male pattern baldness, it can increase your DHT,
30:04Speaker 3well, if you have prostate cancer potentially, like you're gonna create prostate cancer, it helps your d it increases your DHT, which contributes to that.
30:22Speaker 31 in 100 people have a problem with it like, oh, fertility. So like, hey, guys, just just realize that we you don't have kids in your future, so so who cares? But if we have natural
30:34Speaker 3testosterone is over here, we start doing, we start doing tests and our body goes, hey, I don't I don't look how much we have. I don't need to make as much. And so slowly over time, that will diminish.
30:52Speaker 3But really, we care about that because you wanna have kids. If you don't wanna have kids, then it's
31:03Speaker 3it's not like once you start, you always have to have be on it for the rest of your life. That's not true. But if you're on it and you've been on it for a while, 6 months, a year or so, if you decide to get off, you should slowly wean yourself off and expect,
31:15Speaker 3you know, not to feel amazing that whole time. Right? You might have a little like like I explained at the beginning of this. So there's that, and,
31:34Speaker 2Yeah. You know that. That was great. I think the only thing that I'll add to this is it's gonna be a matter of opinion. I mean, the doctor says that. Where I'm I focus on is your free test, which really gives you your sex drive and your focus and your energy. And that's low. I mean, it's not a math equation where
31:51Speaker 2this works for me, so it's going work for you again, because we're all very different, but
32:08Speaker 2That's what you have your money in your bank account. Free test is what you have in your wallet and what you can spend. So if your free test is super low, you got no money and you're tired, you can't get any food, know what I mean?
32:29Speaker 2but I like to feel really good and I like to lift heavy weights and I like to recover better and I don't like to hold on to fat and I like to sleep better, all the above. So
32:42Speaker 2battle that where you're at now just to keep it 5 60 or you can just take testosterone twice a week and radically feel better,
32:52Speaker 3Yep. Good job. Alright. There it is, buddy. So, hey, guys. I'm 41 years old, and I played high level competitive
32:59Speaker 3sports most of my life. As you can relate, I've, I I have suffered many injuries over the years, and as I get older, it takes longer to recover.
33:25Speaker 3I'm a single dad with a 9 year old boy, and it would be nice to stay fit and healthy, but also not hurt so much while loading the dirt bikes or boat when the kiddo want to leave and have some fun on the weekend. Currently, using
33:49Speaker 3Hell yeah. 41? I would so the 1st thing I would point to based on what you are taking for recovery is a growth is an HGH secretagogue.
34:15Speaker 3You're right about the age where it'll probably start working well. You, but you you could try the others depending on how your natural pituitary is working right now. We don't really know, but you just only know that by, well, trying or,
34:52Speaker 2on testosterone replacement or at least kind of mention that, because it really does help us answer the question,
35:13Speaker 2When we get in our forties, man, we just get old, dude, and just it is what it is. And like, I
35:18Speaker 2can't even tell you if I've ever been to the gym in the last 10 years if I haven't hurt. I mean, I take my son to jujitsu, and
35:26Speaker 2the 1st of every month is like dad and son roll day. You know? And, like, of course, I'm gonna get on the mat and roll with him. I'm I'm old, dude. Like,
35:35Speaker 2I'm just running and, like, doing the bear crawls and bear bear crawls backwards and, like, dude, I'm like, it hurts.
35:42Speaker 2I like the I look like I'm in shape, but, like, we're old, dude, and it's just part of the game, dude. But, like, just get out there with your kid no matter what and just get through the pain and, like, you know, we're gonna ache a little bit, and that's just part of the game. I mean, creatine, obviously, up your protein. Make sure you're hydrated. These are just the obvious ones and
36:02Speaker 2you know, we'll answer the HGH. That's definitely gonna help. But, dude, if you're not on TRT, man Yep. That'll help a lot. That's gonna blow up. A A lot. Yep.
36:15Speaker 2This is a good I'm up. Yep. Alright. What's up, fellas? I'm 31 and have been locked into my fitness journey for 7 months.
36:22Speaker 2I started using Wolverine to help me stay in the gym with an old football shoulder injury.
36:42Speaker 26 months ago. Yep. Another clap for you. I feel great, but I'm having trouble relaxing and hanging out with my kids.
36:56Speaker 2Alcohol used to help me relax and have fun. I'm wondering if you have any recommendations for me to slow down and enjoy little things and activities.
37:13Speaker 3It's a great question, man. It's a really good question. It's like a 100% valid and I can relate to it all. So,
37:29Speaker 3still struggle with this, right? It's like, I don't drink and drinking used to let me just kind of forget things and be able to sit on the couch and just like be amazed about
37:49Speaker 3I would rather be like, I don't know, working on something than sitting there watching TV, man. I don't see how they can just sit there and watch TV.
38:07Speaker 3just real just force yourself to know what is what's important in life, right, and balance.
38:27Speaker 3the less I actually give myself some rest because I might be trying hard, but I'm not really getting much done, you know? And
38:33Speaker 3your family is really important and maybe just set times. Like, I would maybe just block out and say, Look, you know, you really probably can't afford to
38:44Speaker 3a day or longer, right, with your family and just say, okay, I'm putting the phone away and this is what I am doing no matter what. And then when that's done, cool, you go back to work. Maybe sit yourself in little time blocks,
38:56Speaker 3but keep working at it, dude. The fact that you're actually thinking about it and care enough to ask
39:02Speaker 3means that I think that you're on the right track and you will figure it out, but just keep not drinking alcohol.
39:12Speaker 3It's like, oh, man. They like me better when I was drinking. I should probably go drink. No. No. Don't do that.
39:20Speaker 2So that's that's all I can really Good on nicotine too. Really hard on the nicotine shit. Yeah, it's universal, man. It's universal as a dad. I'm sitting in Cabo right now. I'm working, but obviously,
39:31Speaker 2you know, we had a lot of comments when, you know, people knew that we were both flying out and like we were gonna be out away and, you know, we appreciate you guys' kind words that people didn't want us to miss. And we're here because we're
39:42Speaker 2gonna show up and that's why Will and I have tasted a little bit of success in our life because we do show up.
39:49Speaker 2And I juggle it all the time. I'm working a lot, and if I'm not working a lot, I'm thinking about working because I care about what I do. I love what I do.
39:58Speaker 2This is what I do for a living. I mean, I absolutely love it. I get to, like, talk to my best friend and run a company with my best friend and all the people that we,
40:05Speaker 2all of our employees, I freaking love them. So my head's there even there now. Yep. You know, they had to help me get on the computer because I'm such a doofus on computers. We'll leave it there.
40:33Speaker 2tells me, Hey, man, you gotta put that phone down, dude. It's time to put the phone down and
40:37Speaker 2go play with your kids. So to answer your question, brother, I'm here in Cabo and even I'm struggling with it right now,
40:56Speaker 2type deal. Don't have no idea what you would call it, but he was talking about just the subject.
41:02Speaker 2So it is very universal. And, you know, his take was you can come in at 10 and you'll be more successful if you get to work at 10. Remember that 1? Well, actually, you know what? Speaking of that, you know what? Hey, man. I'm really excited to watch the business' sales just skyrocket now that you're on vacation.
41:26Speaker 3Is that I don't know if that's a thing. I was looking you in front of me, man. Was like,
41:32Speaker 2I was like, well, I don't know. But it is it is universal, man. And, but I'll tell you this, dude. Like, we all know this too. It's like,
41:39Speaker 2I've had these moments in the last 2 days where I'm watching my sons, and they're smiling from ear to ear, and I'm filming them and just capturing it.
41:53Speaker 2But there's a balance because I work I'm able to afford places to come to Cabo, so there's a balance, man. So it's universal, man. We're blabbing, but we're with you, man. Yeah, dude. Yep. It's part of being a dad, but you're kicking ass because you're thinking about it. Don't drink no more, man. You are on the same path. I could tell you go backwards, that's gonna suck. Your life will continue to improve.
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43:23Speaker 3I haven't heard you guys talk about this peptide yet. It seems like it can help a lot of people with,
43:29Speaker 3type pain, and it doesn't seem like we have anything else for nerve pain. Any thoughts on this peptide, and it is is it worth exploring?
44:07Speaker 3those people who have some overactive nerve pain or maybe an, I don't know, an actual injury that they don't want to feel as much,
44:16Speaker 3but I've heard some good things about it. So, yeah, we're actually in the process of getting it and trying it, and then we'll come back and talk about it. We'll probably do a peptide of the week on it pretty soon.
44:27Speaker 2Yeah, that sounds great because I don't yeah, we have not either neither of us has tried it, so we will report back to you, but great question.
44:36Speaker 2All right. I thank you for the awesome podcast and school classroom. I'm 49 year old woman in premenopause,
44:51Speaker 2Retta, 4 weeks. I was on Tessa Ipablen for 2 weeks, but vials kept gelling up on me, I get up. Initial intent is to trim up and kick the fatigue.
45:39Speaker 3okay, 1st of all, NAD and Brain suck. NAD and MOTS C, I think you should run them much longer than 4 to 6 weeks.
46:48Speaker 2And, yeah, go ahead. Play that. Cerebrolysin is actually really interesting too. 30 one's gonna warm you up, and then the the MOTS-3C for sure. NAD, I think you I don't think you weigh. I think you do it now.
46:59Speaker 2And, again, you know, there's a lot of redundancy. We always say this, but add in some HGH or get up there. That's going to help with just
47:09Speaker 2Anybody basically over 40, in my opinion, that's really gonna help with that. But Semax, Selank, add those in for sure, try them, that's gonna help out. Now if it's something I'll take a little left turn. If it's something that you need a direct focus on,
47:32Speaker 2it's not something that you wanna take every day, but it does give you a super clear clarity of thought and give you focus. So if you ever have a day that you just need to study or need to focus,
47:55Speaker 3from the crunchy anti pharma holistic natural type. Can you explain to me how the raw material is sourced
48:15Speaker 3I mean, an ex for real explanation, probably you wouldn't understand nor I would. Anyway, but here is the thing, source soap.
48:28Speaker 3the majority of all the raws that are making the peptides that everybody here is using all come from from China. Okay? Because when making these,
48:45Speaker 3that actually supports the use of The United States Of America, you gotta make a lot. Okay? And that lot of
48:59Speaker 3So people say, well, it's made in America. Like, no, it's not. They are not the raws are not made here in America because we can't. Nobody can have a large, large, large scale facility
49:10Speaker 3and make them here. Now, you can. Cool. Trevor was on here telling us he did it. Like, right, he can start, you can make these, you can make the actual rods here, but on a small scale for like personal use or for, you know, just for, you know, because this is not going notice. Now how do you make it is this is,
49:32Speaker 3where is my 1st Peptide synthesis. So solid phase peptide synthesis. They essentially just go find and isolate
49:44Speaker 3This is the best explanation. I'm sure it's way more scientific than this, but they just tiny
49:49Speaker 3and they find and they just attach these these single amino acids into a chain, which is what a peptide is, until they have they have connected the right amino acids together, and now we have our peptide.
50:14Speaker 3The interesting thing that we learned from the owner of Janoschik is that there is no way that that process
50:32Speaker 3or or drums that this stuff is made in. Now so they can make these small chain peptides that way.
50:45Speaker 3you don't really I think Cerebrolysin is is a mix of a bunch of peptides, but HGH is such a long change, that needs chain, that needs to be organically made, and it is grown in actual, like, organic cultures, sometimes in E. Coli,
51:05Speaker 3that's the best, I don't know, simplified way I can say it. That's how they that is how it's made in a giant multimillion
51:18Speaker 3world trade, okay, we get together and kind of make these make these decisions on so so big countries don't start manufacturing the same exact thing and then we can't trade. Right? And he says that the
51:29Speaker 3trade off that America and China made was, hey, China, you make raws, It's illegal for China to make finished products. K? They're allowed to make raw materials
51:38Speaker 3of peptides specifically. I don't know about other things, but they just cannot make the finished models. They still do, duh, because we hear about, you know, people buying buying finished peptides from China all the time, but they're supposed to make the raws,
52:05Speaker 2I don't know. Anything else? It is. I love that. Crunchy mom. My wife my wife calls herself a crunchy mom, so I found that to be fun. You know what I just learned also recently? Here's a couple of fun facts is, a,
52:31Speaker 3you're still making what our body made, and this is why you're not seeing, like, BPC is probably the most effective peptide that we know of, right? And then it's been around the longest. Yeah. Like, why is not that top of the list for big pharma? Well,
52:45Speaker 3they can't patent it. They can't patent it and make millions and stop anybody else. They can't control the thing, so they don't even try.
52:54Speaker 3and and the other thing I thought that Trevor had told us is when taking things into clinical trials, what's really interesting is they have a absolute policy
53:20Speaker 3and it will be incredibly expensive for the consumer to use, okay? Then you have another drug that's at 97
53:28Speaker 3But the cost is about a 100 times less for the customer, for the consumer end result. FDA will say, nope, we are you can only we that 97 percent 1, throw it in the trash. We're not hearing it. We will only take we will only listen to the 98 percent, and we will only allow clinical trials and potential
53:53Speaker 2But I learned that from Trevor the other day, but that's just a dumb rule. So those are some quick fun facts. So basically, what he said in so many words is why does anybody care about what the FDA says? Yeah. Yeah. Kinda.
54:05Speaker 2Really- Except to be approved, what does that mean? Who cares? Yeah, who cares? Who cares? But yeah, man, that was great. For anybody, I don't know how this would come out. I think our editor is pretty good at what he does. It probably might sound low, but he'll make it sound good. I was gonna think about maybe doing
54:19Speaker 2peptide of the week here, but I think I fly in early enough on Friday. I can dart from
54:26Speaker 2airport and just we can record in the in the in the studio. I think that would be better for everybody. If Will will be there around 3, 03:30. I can do that. I can't, but I normally leave the
54:37Speaker 2office about 10AM on Fridays, but I'll stay for you. I'm just kidding. We'll talk about it. So other than that, we'll do it on the we can either do it here, but we'll figure it out. But other than that,
54:47Speaker 2join the school. We have the newsletter that is out, and we want people to be on that. It's gonna give you a breakdown of like everything we discussed, especially on the Peptide of the Week podcast.
54:58Speaker 3We have some new stuff coming out in school, but guys, I don't know. The whole point is to try to give
55:21Speaker 2If you guys have any requests in the in the next couple days, day or 2 on the what you would like us to do podcasts
55:28Speaker 2on, we're always open ears. We listen. We do read every 1 of them. At least, some of our team will go through all those, and,
55:35Speaker 3we will listen. So give us some feedback. Other than that, we'll 1 more time. 1 more thing. Yeah. You got it. So we are coming up soon. With my family. Coming up soon, we have a guest. We we have a guest that is
55:46Speaker 3that is an expert on water. I know it sounds crazy, but like I talked to her and like, holy shit, I never knew there was so much to know about water
55:56Speaker 3change a person's body based on pH, acidity, etcetera, etcetera, based on certain conditions. So we're actually having her on on as a guest here soon.
56:35Speaker 2wife. He has Alzheimer's now, he's not doing too well, but just this renowned doctor, just well known, wrote all the journals and stuff. But anyways,
56:45Speaker 2his wife came in on Friday when we opened up the warehouse and she and I were talking. I've known her for a long time and she just saw what we've done. And anyway, she started telling me what
56:55Speaker 2he did, which he was into that type of medicine, holistic medicine, where he was the 1st person in the 80s to start fighting the FDA. I had no clue about this. I was blown away by it. Started fighting the FDA.
57:15Speaker 2am I operating on this person if we can heal him? He was just like, This doesn't make any sense. So graduated and just went to this other direction
57:32Speaker 2They fought cancer in just totally different areas. Right in my cup of tea. I was like, Oh my gosh, how did I not know this? They
57:41Speaker 2best documentary I've ever seen. It was so rad. He was just the 1st punk rocker just fighting the FDA, suing the FDA. Just was blown away by that. The reason I'm saying that is there's just other stuff out there. So Peptides is a peptide podcast, but we're gonna try to bring on guests, any type of guest that has a different way of looking at things, whether we agree with them or not, it's not even the point. So other people can make your own opinion, make an educated opinion on these things because we're all grown ups. We believe the pharmaceutical companies are there to make money. If you haven't figured that out by now, whatever, then do some research. There's other ways of doing things and that's why peptides are blowing up, but it's not all peptides. It's hyperbaric red light. We could go on for days, water.
58:23Speaker 2And that's who we would like to have on. So if you, that rings a bell and then you know anybody that's kind of outside the box and would, you know, let us know of some people that might be a good fit for the show and we'll dig into them and we might just reach out. Right on.