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1:09Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. Not in the studio. I am in Cabo, San Lucas. Nice sun staring at me on the left side.
1:20Speaker 2But in the office,
1:21Speaker 2like always, in the studio is my my cohost, mister William T. Haas. What's going on from the Mainland? I guess you're still in the Mainland. Looking buff. Looking you're looking bigger, dude. What's been eating? He's going on vacation.
1:32Speaker 2He's going on vacation in a couple weeks.
1:35Speaker 0Yep.
1:36Speaker 2To Prague, then Italy,
1:38Speaker 2and, we've already talked about it, so we're allowed to. He's gonna get hitched,
1:42Speaker 2so he's getting in shape.
1:43Speaker 2He's he's cutting out sugar, which I've never seen him do that since I've known him. How's that going? It's going alright. It's going okay. It was a good week.
1:51Speaker 3But I no. I've actually I have done a good job of really of just cutting out this, yes, incessant
1:58Speaker 3like, I've lived my life just, hey. If there's anything that I ever want to eat in front of me, cool. I'll just eat it. Right? And now I'm still eating, like, some carbs, but I'm not,
2:09Speaker 3yeah, not going for the real sugar. I'm like, no. Thank you. No. Thank you. I feel a lot better. I feel better. Shit. I mean, I knew I mean, I've gone on
2:19Speaker 3well, I guess I really haven't. I've done some, like, keto, some intermittent fasting stuff, but I've just never really needed to get I'm just kind of blessed to be really tall and lean naturally. And
2:29Speaker 3so,
2:31Speaker 3yeah,
2:31Speaker 2but I- I wish I was like that, man. But I've been trying. So when Will and I, I mean, we've known each other for so long that like, you don't remember how old you were, but you definitely were obviously a few years before 40, so maybe 37 or something. You're always eating the cookies and shit in the
2:46Speaker 2meetings and stuff. And I'm like, dude, watch man. It's gonna come back and bite you. And it's
2:52Speaker 3still has never done that, man. So I guess I stand corrected. Yeah. It hasn't really bit me. But, and, you know, it has been,
2:59Speaker 3like, people
3:01Speaker 3it also is really easy to eat all that stuff if you're, like, doing if you're doing HGH and you're doing testosterone,
3:07Speaker 3you're doing other things. Right? But
3:09Speaker 3in the last 3 months now, my testosterone is down to maybe 50 mg a week, and I'm not doing for
3:18Speaker 2a 2nd. How how do you feel?
3:20Speaker 3How do you feel? I'm I feel okay. Like, I didn't really have
3:24Speaker 3I guess,
3:26Speaker 3I feel good now. I think I have evened out a bit. I'm also taking HCG and then clomiphene to really to to counteract
3:33Speaker 3it, right, to get my nuts going and and get my natural production going. But there for sure was a letdown. There wasn't but I also but I also weaned down. I didn't just go from
3:43Speaker 3200 to
3:45Speaker 350
3:46Speaker 3overnight.
3:47Speaker 3You know? I did I probably it probably took me 3 weeks to
3:50Speaker 3slowly wean down all the way, then maybe just stand up.
3:55Speaker 3To slowly wean down all the way. So it's
3:59Speaker 3so I don't know. I I did, I noted, the big thing I noticed is my sex drive reduction
4:04Speaker 3for sure.
4:06Speaker 3That's way back though, but that's
4:09Speaker 31 of the big things. Yeah.
4:12Speaker 2Sprink some PT 1 41 on your trip and you'll be good to There's
4:16Speaker 3other things that are Not like that. But it does kinda want you kinda like start thinking about it. It does definitely help. It does. But that's so, you know, so it it was a I I noticed the letdown for sure.
4:28Speaker 3I'm I will when I get the chance, an opportunity, I will go right back up and do go back up to doing testosterone. That's for sure.
4:36Speaker 2Great. Remember Adolfo? His wife was pregnant. He's like, give me some testosterone. Exactly. He said, thank God, the day that I
4:46Speaker 3heard that she's pregnant. Yep.
4:48Speaker 3Yeah, I need some.
4:50Speaker 2Oh, man.
4:52Speaker 2I love it, man. Well, exciting. Good stuff, man. So let's get it kicked off so you guys can get back to work, and I can go eat with my fam. So you wanna start us off? Sure. Good. The q and a episode. Okay. Q and a. Here we go, guys. Question number 1. Hey, guys.
5:06Speaker 350 year old woman, and I've been on a weight loss stack, which includes Retta,
5:11Speaker 3Clo, SS 31, HGH,
5:14Speaker 3Frag,
5:15Speaker 3SLU-1BAM,
5:16Speaker 3Tesofensine,
5:17Speaker 3Modafinil only once in a while. Just took a break from MOTS-nine and NAD. I've lost 30 pounds so far. No doubt.
5:25Speaker 3I am all set with my peptide stat, but I need some
5:28Speaker 3help and advice on diet and exercise. You guys preach about it all the time and that it needs to be the 1st thing that we do along with hormones that need to be in check. I know this podcast is all about peptides, but can you guys talk about diet and exercise recommendations
5:41Speaker 3for a 50 year old woman who needs to lose another 30 pounds? Any advice is appreciated.
5:47Speaker 3Thanks for all you do. I appreciate you both so much.
5:52Speaker 3Alright. That's
5:54Speaker 0valid question. Yeah. You want me take that? Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead. Start off. This is
5:59Speaker 3Yeah, and that was a- It's a loaded question,
6:02Speaker 3right? We can probably talk for 48 hours
6:05Speaker 2on diet and exercise. Well, we talked about it a lot. I mean, I think in regards,
6:11Speaker 2she said that she didn't,
6:12Speaker 2talk about in regards to getting the hormones right. So I took it kind of as she was kind of curious on what she needs to get ran to get her hormones. So here, been having this question pop up a lot because we've been talking about it a lot, even my wife's mom. I could go on and on and on. So estradiol, progesterone,
6:31Speaker 2test total test, free test,
6:34Speaker 2thyroid, TSH,
6:35Speaker 2free t free t 3, t 4, cortisol,
6:39Speaker 2insulin,
6:40Speaker 2and fasting glucose
6:42Speaker 2are the ones that you want to get tested. And
6:46Speaker 2that's going to help you in regards to that. I know that you're 50 years old, and I believe that Will and I will both agree on this. You could tell me, Will, is I think 1 thing women fall short on is they don't eat enough protein. They
6:59Speaker 2just that's just the truth. I think that, you know, women still need to eat about a gram of protein
7:04Speaker 2per body weight. And I think a lot of people, a lot of women don't do that. A lot of women think that they need to do cardio rather than resistance training. So resistance training,
7:15Speaker 21 g of protein, you want to get that in for sure.
7:19Speaker 2And
7:20Speaker 2I'm going to be redundant probably a lot on this, but the sleep,
7:25Speaker 27 to 8 hours alone, those are going to set that base that we speak of
7:31Speaker 2all the time. So resistance training,
7:33Speaker 2you gotta get that in there. I would say for a 50 year old, at least 4 times a week, shoot, if you can do 5, do 5 if you really like cardio,
7:42Speaker 2you know, you wanna do maybe 20 to 30 minutes, and that's it 3 times a week, because that resistance training is really the key
7:50Speaker 2to even you ladies. What do you think, though? So agreed.
7:54Speaker 3I've had this question a lot in the history of life,
7:58Speaker 3from
7:59Speaker 3friends. I mean, just from all so I've so okay. As far as the exercise goes, absolutely.
8:05Speaker 3Everybody, everybody, if you wanna lose weight, if you wanna hey, if you wanna lose weight, you need to lift weights. If you wanna gain muscle, you need to lift weights. Or resistance
8:13Speaker 3to when we say resistance training, that can be bands, that can be like, it doesn't have to be like hard metal iron. Alright?
8:20Speaker 3It could be bands, but it needs to essentially, the goal is to make the muscles sore. K?
8:25Speaker 3That is your key. So when we are you have to we are tearing the muscle down. So you need to make them work harder than they're capable of so they actually cause thousands of small little micro tears. Right? And then when you eat protein over the next day and sleep,
8:41Speaker 3it fills in those micro tears and your muscles get grow back stronger, tighter, denser,
8:47Speaker 3bigger if you are lifting for, you know, if you're a man with a lot of testosterone.
8:52Speaker 3But there's a reason if you go look at go to the gym. Look at the women in the weight room.
8:57Speaker 3Look at the women on the cardio equipment. Tell me who's in better shape. Right?
9:01Speaker 3Right. It just also,
9:03Speaker 3if you're just doing cardio, here's the issues. Well, a, your body's gonna break down because it's just a lot of repetitive stress. Right? You probably won't get sore after the 2nd 1st, 2nd, 3rd time you you do any cardio. Okay? Because our bodies, the human body just gets really good at doing anything. It adapts like crazy. Okay? And it it tries to find the the path of least resistance. So if it can adapt to doing cardio, then it then it will,
9:29Speaker 3and therefore, your butt muscles aren't gonna get sore,
9:32Speaker 3and your body burns a whole ton of calories. You burn they burn say something like 400 calories over a 24 hour period of your body just repairing. So if a muscle's sore, just trying to create new muscle out of thin air raises your metabolism by 400 calories a day,
9:48Speaker 3and which is your basal metabolic rate.
9:51Speaker 3So
9:52Speaker 3you need to lift weights. Cardio is gonna just burn calories off you. It's gonna burn muscle. K? You're gonna burn your muscle off.
9:58Speaker 3You're gonna injure yourself, and you're not even get that managed calorie burn, and you're not even getting you're not gonna get that recovery
10:04Speaker 3calorie burn. You're just soon as you step off that treadmill, that's it. Calories are done. If you lift weights, cool. You lift weights for the 0.5 hour.
10:11Speaker 3You're gonna get calorie burn over the next, you know, 24 hours or so. So lift weights and be good for your body, especially at 50 years old. Resistance training is how you make your bone densities
10:22Speaker 3your bones stronger and increase your bone density. You actually cause Yeah. Tears, those bone fibers, and they will they will condense.
10:30Speaker 3And
10:31Speaker 3let me see. Looking at her stack, right, I would, as a 50 year old, I would add in some HGH secretagogue,
10:37Speaker 3if not actual HGH,
10:39Speaker 3because that is absolutely gonna help increase your bone density. It's gonna help recover
10:44Speaker 3your muscles faster and everything in your whole body will recover faster. So I would think about adding that in. Absolutely.
10:51Speaker 3So weight training, you gotta do it. Yeah. Do it 4 days a week, and it doesn't have to be long. Right? Don't overtrain.
10:57Speaker 330 minutes. You know, the goal is to work out every muscle on your body at the very least once a week to soreness, and it should be sore 2 to 2 2 days or so. K? 2 to 3 days. If a person can accomplish that, awesome. The nutrition,
11:11Speaker 3protein. Hit your grams of protein. If you're a woman even and you're actually lifting weights, then, yeah, 1 g of protein per 1 per pound of body weight
11:21Speaker 3is the general rule. For a man, I'd say a gram and 0.5
11:25Speaker 3per pound. The the truth is if you can stay away from sugar and you can hit your protein, I guarantee that's gonna make a huge difference.
11:34Speaker 3Else falls in line. Like, to oversimplify it, like, honestly,
11:38Speaker 3that's the hard thing, and your protein intake needs to be from real food. Protein shakes, okay, maybe 2 or so a day, but you can't just live on that stuff. It needs to be you need to eat some real food.
11:51Speaker 3Would do a quick protein shake post workout
11:53Speaker 3and right before bed. Eat protein right before you go to bed, don't eat carbs right before you go to bed.
11:59Speaker 3When we are sleeping, that's when we're building all of our muscle, and it needs material to build. So you need to give it some stuff right before you go to sleep, so then it will build.
12:08Speaker 3Carbohydrates, we eat the carbs, it takes them 2, 3 hours or so to finally break down and turn into sugar to make usable fuel. And if we're sleeping, when they've turned into sugar, they decide, meh, I'll just store them as fat for later use. That's no good.
12:24Speaker 3So that's as much as I got for the time that we have. Good stuff. Like it.
12:30Speaker 2All right. Hey, guys, I work roughly 18 oh, this 1 is a good 1. Hey, guys, I work roughly 18 to 20 hours per day. Do you Monday
12:38Speaker 2through Friday. I sleep about 2 to 3 hours on those days. I fully understand sleep is important and I need to get more of it, but it's just not possible at this time. Is there a stack you would recommend someone with a lifestyle to hopefully negate some of the negative effects of being sleep deprived. Thanks.
12:57Speaker 2Love the community brands you guys built PS. I'm 45 year old male, about 160
13:02Speaker 2pounds, 16% body fat,
13:05Speaker 2excellent DEXA, and good blood work currently on Retta.
13:08Speaker 2Whoo. Man, I just would love to know what this guy does. What do you do? Do, dude? 18 to 20 hours, Monday through Friday.
13:16Speaker 2How old does he say? 45. 45. You are oh, 45. You're gonna hit a wall, dude. Hell yeah. I can't believe you haven't already. So,
13:24Speaker 3yeah. Yeah. My here's my here's my take on it is you could try DSIP to help you get into REM sleep really fast to just maximize those 2 to 3 hours of sleep,
13:34Speaker 3and to make sure that you're not wasting that small time that you have trying to fall asleep. So d DSIP,
13:40Speaker 3delta sleep inducing peptide. I would absolutely do SS-thirty 1 and MOTS-three,
13:46Speaker 3to just help your mitochondrial function because all of that sleep did
13:51Speaker 3sleep is is vitally important. Right?
13:54Speaker 3You can die from just from not sleeping enough. It can give you lots and lots of problems.
14:00Speaker 2I won't go into detail, but I think we all know. Yeah. So, you know, I talked talked about it a lot, and I'm telling you, man, you're gonna hit a wall. You're 45, so you and I are damn close in age. I lived that, those on those hours for quite some time, and I did fine until I didn't, and I hit a wall. So it was brutal. Knocked me on my ass, and I'm still trying to rectify the boat, so to speak.
14:22Speaker 2You're gonna hold on to fat. You are going to just hold fat in your stomach,
14:27Speaker 2so you need to work that. Are you on TRT? Does he say that? I don't think so. You definitely need to be if you are not.
14:35Speaker 2Yeah, SS-31MOTC,
14:37Speaker 2we'll talk about that. I would say your immune system's probably shocked because you're not sleeping much, so I'd add in a TA-one and
14:43Speaker 2NAD. So that's gonna at least give you some cellular
14:47Speaker 2energy. But brother, if you don't fix your sleep, dude, the peptides aren't gonna, sorry to be blunt, do shit. You're going to get nailed. Yeah.
14:54Speaker 2So I don't know what you do for a living. I would love for you to shoot us a DM and tell me what you do for a living. I'm super curious,
15:01Speaker 2just because I wanna know, but
15:04Speaker 2that's just the blunt truth, brother. You need to fix that or you're gonna run into some health problems, man. Yes. Yep. I would agree. Modafinil has literally made her shift work this way. You know, at 25?
15:16Speaker 2Yeah. I did a lot of lot of things with no sleep.
15:19Speaker 3Who lived to tell him that I'm not in 45. Right. That's tough, dude. There's it's there's you could do some things to help you just get through the day and maybe function, but, like, internally,
15:31Speaker 3yeah, you just need to get more sleep, dude, somehow.
15:34Speaker 3Okay.
15:35Speaker 3Alright. Number 3. 1st off, love you guys and your show. I started listening late last year and have learned so much from the podcast and school. I'm 45
15:44Speaker 3year old male, hundred and 80 pounds. I started my peptide journey with Wolverine to help with nagging lifting injuries and now expanding to 1 mg of MOTSY,
15:54Speaker 31 mg SS 31,
15:56Speaker 31 unit
15:58Speaker 3of Clo,
15:59Speaker 3so 0.5
16:01Speaker 3TB 500.5
16:02Speaker 3BPC,
16:03Speaker 3and 2.5 GHKCu,
16:05Speaker 3and 0.5 KPV. So that would we call 10 units.
16:12Speaker 3And, 2 mg of Wolverine, 2 mg of Kertilax, 1 mg TA 0.5
16:17Speaker 3mg Tessa, 0.5 mg IPA all daily. I know you've had multiple discussions about mixing multiple peptides in a syringe, but curious what your thoughts are about mixing a week's worth of peptides in a vial.
16:29Speaker 3For example, I do MOTS-C and SS-thirty 1 1st thing in the morning.
16:34Speaker 3On Sunday,
16:35Speaker 3could I mix 7 mgs of MOTS-three
16:39Speaker 3and,
16:40Speaker 37 Migs of SS-thirty 1 into a vial and then draw out 2 Migs every morning? Could I guarantee I would get a, 1 Mig and both draw? Absolutely. Yeah. I was curious how you're gonna answer that. So curious how I was gonna answer. So the math works out, dude. Like, so 1st of all, in the example of SS-31 and MOTS-1MUTC is
16:59Speaker 3absolutely
17:00Speaker 3that is perfect.
17:01Speaker 3Those if they're all water based, water will mix perfectly together
17:07Speaker 3when you combine it.
17:08Speaker 3So if you combine
17:10Speaker 3them and it all is now crystal clear and you draw out
17:14Speaker 32 Migs, you will get 1 Mig of each if you mix equal parts. Right? The hard part is I definitely think that SS 31 should people should be doing more of that. Right? I think like 5 Migs. I knew you're gonna say that. 5 Migs to 1 Mig, and so you just gotta do the math on that 1. Right? If you wanna go 7 days, right, you need to put 35 Migs of
17:33Speaker 3of SS 31
17:35Speaker 3in and 7 Migs of,
17:38Speaker 3MOTS-3.
17:39Speaker 3And then you'll get 5 and 1. So, yes, dude, your math is correct and totally that's okay. The things I wouldn't do this with though is the Tessa
17:48Speaker 3Ipa
17:49Speaker 3seems to not do well with other compounds. Also, Reta seems to any of the GLPs don't do well mixed in the same like liquid,
17:59Speaker 3and anything anything HGH,
18:01Speaker 3HCG,
18:02Speaker 3any secretagogues,
18:03Speaker 3and the GLP-1s,
18:05Speaker 3those ones I find that, if you mix them together
18:08Speaker 3with anything else that turns cloudy and that's no good.
18:11Speaker 3But all the other stuff that you said, if you can do the math on it, yeah, you're right, and that that works, and I and I think that's a great idea.
18:19Speaker 2Yeah. It's great. I agree. I was wondering what you're gonna say on that, Will. As long as you calculate the math, that's all it is, then I think you're good. I mean, it just depends on how how I mean, I'm all about, like, being efficient and cutting down on time.
18:34Speaker 2I mean, I would probably prefer per personally to just do, you know, them and the same thing each day, but you do you, man. Yeah. We both agree. I was curious how Will was gonna answer that because we didn't talk about that. So, yeah, I agree with Will. Go ahead and do it, man. Save yourself some time. Yep. Alright.
18:50Speaker 2What's up, guys? I'm a 45 year old male who just started peptides a few months ago. I love the show and listened so much that down my other morning, my wife heard me listening and said, I hear these guys so much, I feel like they're lyrics. That was hilarious.
19:04Speaker 0That was funny. I read this this morning. I was busting up. That was rad. I started a stack 12 weeks ago of Retta,
19:10Speaker 0Khloe,
19:11Speaker 2CJC-twelve
19:12Speaker 295 No DAC with Ipamorelin.
19:15Speaker 2My entire life, I dealt with an awful stomach issue
19:19Speaker 2no matter what I ate. 10 minutes later, I'm in the bathroom.
19:22Speaker 2I've seen numerous doctors, so many tests done, but no answer. After 2 weeks being on that stack, I haven't had a stomach issue, yet my life has changed That incredibly
19:32Speaker 2is freaking awesome, man. Here's my question. I just stopped. Clo,
19:37Speaker 2will my stomach issues come back, or should I just take BPC-one
19:41Speaker 2hundred 57 to help with my stomach?
19:44Speaker 2How how long can I take it for?
19:47Speaker 2Wow.
19:48Speaker 3Were you blown away by that? Yeah. I mean, kind of, but not really because we keep hearing just miracle stories, but, like, that's amazing because that would suck. You're living your whole life,
19:58Speaker 3like that. And now it all of a sudden being healed, good,
20:02Speaker 3that's amazing. And that's that's
20:04Speaker 3freaking awesome.
20:07Speaker 2Hell yeah.
20:08Speaker 2So are you,
20:11Speaker 2so what I would say, if you're gonna cut out the clo, which is the main thing I think that it was gonna be the best for you was the KPV. Yeah.
20:19Speaker 2And, you know, the copper is the only thing that you should worry about. I'm assuming that's why you're doing that. But just add in the KPV, actual KPV,
20:27Speaker 2and then the Wolverine, and then you can take tons of those.
20:30Speaker 2You can also take the orals of both. Can take that as well. You can take the oral KPV and the oral BPC-one hundred 57 because those are really for your gut.
20:42Speaker 2But yeah, I was amazed that it it heal just so quick, but again, that's why everybody's taking these peptides because they're freaking awesome. Yeah. I think that so here's the here's my take on it, but it's
20:53Speaker 3it's the BPC and the KPV
20:56Speaker 3that should that's
20:58Speaker 3my thought of what has-
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21:59Speaker 3Fix your stomach issue.
22:02Speaker 3If you pull out the clo,
22:04Speaker 3and and usually, these things don't really just completely reverse the issue forever.
22:10Speaker 3Right?
22:11Speaker 3Are helping, especially the BPC, right, is helping that your mucus membrane inside of your stomach remain strong and and and stay and now if you stop taking it, it's gonna revert back to where your body was naturally. So but I don't think it was as much the TB-five hundred and the GHK- inside of the CLO as it was the other 2, and so if you stop CLO, then absolutely I would take BPC and KPV,
22:35Speaker 3either injectable or orals. Theoretically, the orals should work better for your situation,
22:40Speaker 3but yours but, man, some crazy things have happened. Who knows? Maybe you do that and and it comes back, and if it comes back, then just get back onto the club. How long can you take it? Frankly, yes, he's right. The GHKC was the only 1 that we kind of worry about.
22:54Speaker 3I know people who've who are adamant about taking it for a year every day, and they're still alive.
23:01Speaker 3But as far as the BPC and KPV, you may take that every day for the rest of your life with no problems.
23:08Speaker 3K? And if that's what it takes to solve this stomach issue, I probably I would, I wouldn't blame you, and I would do the same thing. I would take it every day
23:16Speaker 2till I die. Good for you, man. How cool. Yeah. That's dope. I'm so I'm so stoked to hear that. You healed here through your gut. I don't know what you have, man. I would those doctors couldn't figure it out. That's crazy. But, Well, we've been doing some, like, in house, you know, not
23:31Speaker 3exactly controlled studies on,
23:33Speaker 3dogs, and 1 of our employees' dog who has had, like, chronic diarrhea always, entire life, and she started giving it KPV
23:41Speaker 3and and BPC,
23:43Speaker 3and it is, like, within a day, 2 days, maybe. Dog started taking regular
23:48Speaker 3poops and has continued.
23:50Speaker 2Unreal.
23:51Speaker 0So rad. Yeah.
23:53Speaker 2I love this stuff. Man.
23:55Speaker 2Cool. Hope that helps, man. Who's that? Me? You.
23:59Speaker 0I'm up. Actually,
24:01Speaker 0it's probably me. Hi, JD and Will.
24:04Speaker 3Go ahead. Okay.
24:05Speaker 3Hi, JD and Will. I will do it. I'm a 65 year old female on TRT, desiccated thyroid,
24:13Speaker 3and finally talked my
24:15Speaker 3naturopathic doctor into ordering BHRT,
24:18Speaker 3estrogen estradiol cream.
24:21Speaker 3I wanted progesterone, but for some reason, he's waiting on that to see how I do on the estrogen 1st.
24:27Speaker 3But I definitely plan on pushing it as I know that progesterone
24:30Speaker 3is just as important, if not more,
24:33Speaker 3as everything else. I keep hearing that HGH is something I definitely should be taking, but not sure what type and how to order this. So, you know, I think yeah. JD, what do you have to say to that 1?
24:43Speaker 2I think, your age, yeah. You know, we, we're very blunt about
24:48Speaker 2our opinions on HGH.
24:51Speaker 2And, yeah, I think you should. I think you should. In regards to the confusing part, it's confusing to everybody for sure.
24:58Speaker 2Absolutely, we can help you. When it comes to getting it, you know, I can just give you the heads up on where I get it. And I don't mind doing that because I love it, I'm a big fan of it. So you could shoot me a DM wherever
25:08Speaker 2you find
25:10Speaker 2us, if it's school, if it's
25:12Speaker 2Instagram or wherever you found us, it'll get to Will and I, And I'd have to be happy to tell you where I get it. But my take is, yeah, you should. I think at
25:21Speaker 2your age,
25:22Speaker 2any secretagogue
25:23Speaker 2is not gonna do it for you. You're just, you know, hate to say it for lack of a better way to say it, you're a little bit too old for
25:29Speaker 2I think 1 IU without a doubt, maybe because your age, what do you think? Well, maybe could she push it to 2 IU? I think that's still low dose. Yeah, it is. But loan slow. Go take an IU. I would just start with long I'm start with 1 IU and just, I don't know, leave it there for a while.
25:44Speaker 2Yeah. It's a long play. We've said that numerous times,
25:48Speaker 2but I think, well, I both agree, it's it's in our it's in my top 2 forever. I I think it's great. And I did it. I left my HGH at home and didn't bring it on this trip, and I was bummed. Yeah. So it is what it is. But, yeah, I think you should do it and we will help you with that. And if you have some questions on how to do it, sure, of course, we'll help you with that. We have no problem. Absolutely.
26:08Speaker 0Yep. How are we gonna help?
26:11Speaker 3Now you're up.
26:13Speaker 0I'm up. Alright. Next pitch. You got it.
26:17Speaker 2As someone who has been on GLP for 2 years, lost a 110 pounds, currently at 2 20 pounds,
26:25Speaker 2and feeling better than ever. 43 year old male, no kids in future. I walk 3 to 4 miles daily,
26:32Speaker 2heavy lifting 5 days a week, currently running Reta and BPC.
26:37Speaker 2Plan to stack Tesa Ipi GHK-
26:40Speaker 2in a month. My testosterone
26:42Speaker 2is 5 60
26:44Speaker 2with a free testosterone of 12. Doctor
26:47Speaker 2doesn't think I need TRT,
26:49Speaker 2but seems to like my values are on the low
26:54Speaker 2to mid range.
26:56Speaker 2What are the pros and cons of getting on TRT?
26:58Speaker 2What value should I be aiming for? What are some of the easiest ways to get on TRT?
27:05Speaker 3You want me to go? I will go. Let me go give you my quick rundown on So
27:09Speaker 3what are the benefits, pros and cons of TRT? So if you're on testosterone, like- Long you got. Here is like you, your metabolism will speed up a bit. Okay? It'll be easier to burn fat. It'll be a lot, it'll be easier to build muscle.
27:22Speaker 3At about 200 mgs is about a kind of a max TRT dose.
27:26Speaker 3You're not that's not truly like anabolic. You're not gonna just start popping muscles out. At about 400 mg is what they call the anabolic threshold. So about then,
27:35Speaker 3then you're gonna your protein synthesis, which basically turning protein into muscle goes through the roof and you will start popping muscles out. But on a TRT dose,
27:44Speaker 3metabolism
27:46Speaker 3increase.
27:47Speaker 3You sure as hell won't lose any muscle, but it'll help you gain muscle if that's the goal and you're working hard and you're eating enough and lifting enough weights trying to gain muscle. Your sex drive will go way up. Yeah. Your
27:58Speaker 3sleep will get better. You'll be happier.
28:01Speaker 3Your body will recover everywhere faster.
28:03Speaker 3You'll have more energy and motivation and not just like physical, but like your brain motivated. Like, right, you will be you'll be happier and more motivated to get stuff done.
28:12Speaker 3There's all the benefits.
28:14Speaker 3The cons here is that you have to inject yourself twice a week.
28:19Speaker 3There is the potential, so anytime that we're actually we're adding testosterone,
28:24Speaker 3your body, our body has this much test and a man and this much estrogen. Okay? It likes this ratio. As soon as we add more tests, there's a potential for your estrogen to raise. Some people,
28:35Speaker 3estrogen goes really high, okay? They're just genetically predisposed to having higher estrogen when it changes. Some people's doesn't really change at all, okay? So just know
28:45Speaker 3estrogen may be something you need to manage. On a TRT dose,
28:50Speaker 3you really shouldn't though, it shouldn't be creating a bunch of estrogen unless you're 1 of the unluckies that actually, that, you know, your body just happens to produce a lot of estrogen. You're not bad, it just is what it is, some people are that way.
29:00Speaker 3So just be aware, 1 con is like, you gotta manage, you gotta pay attention to your body and manage your estrogen.
29:07Speaker 3You're looking at 3 things, your water retention,
29:10Speaker 3extra like excess
29:11Speaker 3water retention, looking a bit bloated, Nipple sensitivity, that's a start of gyno,
29:17Speaker 3and any extra acne,
29:18Speaker 3especially like looking dotted out or on your shoulders,
29:21Speaker 3that is estrogen symptoms. Yes, maybe. And it's time to start taking in
29:27Speaker 3an AI, low dose of an AI and be consistent with it. So there's some cons. The other con is, yeah, in some people, right, your male pattern baldness, it can increase your DHT,
29:38Speaker 3and it can help you go bald a little bit faster. It can but again, on a TRT dose, that's
29:45Speaker 3mitigated a lot. It
29:47Speaker 3can,
29:49Speaker 3well, if you have prostate cancer potentially, like you're gonna create prostate cancer, it helps your it increases your DHT, which contributes to that.
29:58Speaker 3And finally,
30:00Speaker 3I'm missing something, but those
30:03Speaker 3are all just manageable things and I don't know,
30:06Speaker 31 in 100 people have a problem with it like, oh, fertility. So like, hey guys, just just realize that we, you don't have kids in your future, so so who cares? But if we have
30:17Speaker 3natural,
30:19Speaker 3testosterone
30:20Speaker 3is over here, we start doing we start doing tests and our body goes, hey, I don't I don't look how much we have. I don't need to make as much. And so slowly over time, that will diminish.
30:29Speaker 3You can take HCG running it concurrently throughout
30:32Speaker 3your TRT and that can help your natural test not drop off.
30:36Speaker 3But really, we care about that because you wanna have kids. And if you don't wanna have kids, then
30:41Speaker 3it's not that important.
30:43Speaker 3You just need to keep doing it for testosterone.
30:46Speaker 3I mean, you really,
30:47Speaker 3it's not like once you start, you always have to have to be on it for the rest of your life. That's not true, but if you're on it and you've been on it for while, 6 months, a year or so, if you decide to get off, you should slowly wean yourself off and expect,
31:00Speaker 3you know, not to feel amazing that whole time. Right? You might have a little like like I explained at the beginning of this. So there's that and
31:08Speaker 3at 5 60, at 45,
31:11Speaker 3that's probably about normal, but you could be living way better.
31:15Speaker 3That's all I have. Yeah.
31:18Speaker 2Yeah, you know that. That was great. I think the only thing that I'll add to this is it's gonna be a matter of opinion. I mean, the doctor says that. Where I focus on is your free test,
31:27Speaker 2which really gives you your sex drive and your focus and your energy,
31:32Speaker 2and that's low. You know, I mean, it's not a math equation where
31:36Speaker 2this works for me, so it's going to work for you again, because we're all very different, but
31:41Speaker 2that is low for free testosterone.
31:43Speaker 2So I would say, I would imagine your sex
31:46Speaker 2drive is low.
31:48Speaker 2So the easiest way is your total test is your bank account,
31:52Speaker 2Did you have your money in your bank account? Free test is what you have in your wallet and what you can spend. So if your free test is super low, you got no money and you're tired, you can't get any food, know what I mean?
32:05Speaker 2Sex drive.
32:06Speaker 2I would say if it's me, I'll always answer for me. I would absolutely
32:10Speaker 2do it.
32:12Speaker 2Those numbers are okay,
32:14Speaker 2but I like to feel really good and I like to lift heavy weights and I like to recover better and I don't like to hold on to fat and I like to sleep better, all the above. So
32:24Speaker 2if you can
32:26Speaker 2battle that where you're at now, to keep it 5 60, or you can just take testosterone twice a week and radically feel better,
32:34Speaker 2that's how I would do it.
32:36Speaker 0Yep.
32:37Speaker 3Good job. Alright. There it is, buddy. So hey, guys, I'm 41 years old, and I played high level competitive sports most of my life. As you can relate, I've, I I have suffered many injuries over the years, and as I get older, it takes longer to recover.
32:54Speaker 3I play competitive sports, but now train,
32:57Speaker 3Muay Thai 3 to 5 days a week.
33:00Speaker 3And when I'm home from work and in the gym every day when I'm away from work,
33:05Speaker 3do you have any recommendation to help me recover a bit easier and a little faster?
33:10Speaker 3I'm a single dad with a 9 year old boy, and it would be nice to stay fit and healthy, but also not hurt so much while loading the dirt bikes or boat when the kiddo want to leave and have some fun on the weekend.
33:22Speaker 3Currently, I'm using BPC-one
33:24Speaker 3100 57 and TB-five hundred for a torn bicep, also using Retta, GHK- and MOTS-8. Love the show. Appreciate all the info you guys share.
33:34Speaker 3Hell yeah. 41? I would so the 1st thing I would point to based on what you are taking for recovery is a growth is an HGH secretagogue.
33:42Speaker 3And as a male at your age, right,
33:45Speaker 3you could, I would say,
33:48Speaker 3it's your choice, did Tessa, Ipamorelin, or or CJC
33:52Speaker 3Ipamorelin.
33:53Speaker 3So 1 of those 2 blends
33:56Speaker 3would be my go to unless you wanna start taking real HGH.
34:00Speaker 3You're right about the age where it'll probably start working well. You, but you you could try the others depending on how your natural pituitary is working right now. We don't really know, but you just only know that by, well, trying or, yeah, trying.
34:12Speaker 3So that would be my biggest
34:15Speaker 31 to help you absolutely recover considering everything else you're already taking.
34:20Speaker 3Yeah.
34:21Speaker 3I mean, I could give you a list of what everybody else should take, but recovery,
34:24Speaker 3that's gonna be the number 1.
34:27Speaker 2Yeah, and 2, you don't say TRT,
34:30Speaker 2so that
34:32Speaker 2always helps for everybody that's writing in any questions. If you are not
34:37Speaker 2on testosterone replacement or at least kind of mention that, because it really does help us answer the question, Because if you're not, you need to at least go get your blood work and be
34:47Speaker 2able to make an educated
34:48Speaker 2opinion if you should. And then you can add in the HGH or secretagog
34:52Speaker 2without
34:54Speaker 2a doubt. And, I mean, I don't know, maybe I'll take a different spin.
34:57Speaker 2When we in our forties, man, we just get old, dude, and just, it is what it is. And like, I
35:03Speaker 2can't even tell you if I've ever been to the gym in the last 10 years if I haven't hurt. I mean, I take my son to jujitsu,
35:09Speaker 2and
35:11Speaker 2the 1st of every month is like dad and son role day, you know, and like, of course, I'm gonna get on the mat and roll with him.
35:18Speaker 2I'm I'm old, dude. Like,
35:20Speaker 2I'm just running and, like, doing the bear crawls and bear bear crawls backwards and, dude, I'm like, it hurts.
35:26Speaker 2I like the I look like I'm in shape, but, like, we're old, dude, and it's just part of the game, dude. But, like, just get out there with your kid no matter what and just get through the pain and, like, you know, we're gonna ache a little bit, and that's just part of the game. I mean, creatine,
35:39Speaker 2obviously, up your protein.
35:41Speaker 2Make sure you're hydrated. These are just the obvious ones and
35:44Speaker 2good sleep and, you
35:46Speaker 2know, we'll answer the HGH. So that's definitely gonna help. Dude, if you're not on TRT, man Yep. That'll help a lot. That's gonna That'll help a lot. A lot. Yep.
35:55Speaker 3Alright, you're up. But good stuff.
35:59Speaker 3This is a good I'm up. Alright.
36:01Speaker 2What's up, fellas? I'm 31 and have been locked into my fitness journey for 7 months.
36:07Speaker 2I started using Wolverine to help me stay in the gym with an old football shoulder injury.
36:12Speaker 2I then gave Retta a try and it's a game changer.
36:16Speaker 2I am down from 2 42
36:18Speaker 2to 1 85.
36:21Speaker 2Man, good for you, brother. I gave up nicotine a year ago and alcohol
36:27Speaker 26 months ago. Yep. Another clap for you. I feel great, but I'm having trouble relaxing and hanging out with my kids.
36:35Speaker 2Not that I don't want to, but I get productivity
36:39Speaker 2guilt.
36:40Speaker 2Alcohol used to help me relax and have fun. I'm wondering if you have any recommendations for me to slow down and enjoy little things and activities.
36:48Speaker 2I recently ordered Semax and Selank, but haven't, tried them yet.
36:54Speaker 2I will be in, I will be in the next few days.
36:57Speaker 3It's a great question, man. It's a really good question. It's a, like, a 100% valid and I can relate to it all. So,
37:04Speaker 3yeah, dude, that's, I think that's,
37:06Speaker 3it's a very good question and it is a real struggle. I totally understand. Yes. When
37:12Speaker 3I
37:12Speaker 3I still, I still struggle with this, right? It's like, yeah, I don't drink and drinking used to let me just kind of forget things and be able to sit on the couch and just like be amazed about
37:22Speaker 3a TV show or just talking to somebody, you know?
37:26Speaker 3I now
37:28Speaker 3definitely, like, need to be doing something. Ask the family at home. Right?
37:33Speaker 3I would rather be like, I don't know, working on something than sitting there watching TV on, man. I don't see how they can just sit there and watch TV.
37:42Speaker 3But
37:44Speaker 3with time, man, with time, I don't really have a solution for you other than,
37:51Speaker 3just real just force yourself to know what is
37:54Speaker 3what's important in life, right, and balance.
37:57Speaker 3You know, you just need to and also think of, like, yo, rest time,
38:01Speaker 3rest and relax time is production.
38:04Speaker 3That's 1 thing that I have to learn is go,
38:07Speaker 3I my productivity
38:09Speaker 3is decreased
38:11Speaker 3the less I actually give myself some rest because I might be trying hard, but I'm not really getting much done, you know? And
38:18Speaker 3your family is really important, and maybe just set times, like I would maybe just block out and say, Look, you know, you really probably can't afford to
38:26Speaker 3spend an hour
38:28Speaker 3a day or longer, right, with your family and just say, okay, I'm putting the phone away and this is what I am doing no matter what. And then when that's done, cool, you go back to Maybe sit yourself in little time blocks,
38:40Speaker 3but keep working at it, dude. The fact that you're actually thinking about it and care enough to ask
38:46Speaker 3means that I think that you're on the right track and you will figure it out, but just keep not drinking alcohol.
38:54Speaker 3Do not let the alcohol go. Good answer. It's
38:57Speaker 3like, oh, man. They like me better when I was drinking. I should probably go drink. No. No. Don't do that.
39:03Speaker 3You'll get better.
39:05Speaker 2So that's that's all I can really on nicotine too. Really hard on the nicotine shit. Yeah. It's universal, man. It's universal as a dad. I'm sitting in Kabul right now. I'm working, but obviously,
39:16Speaker 2you know, we had a lot of comments when, you know, people knew that we were both flying out and like we were gonna be out away. And, you know, we appreciate you guys' kind words that people didn't want us to miss. And we're here because we're
39:27Speaker 2gonna show up, and that's why Will and I have tasted a little bit of success in our life because we do show up.
39:33Speaker 2And I juggle it all the time. I'm working a lot, and if I'm not working a lot, I'm thinking about working because I care about what I do. I love what I do.
39:42Speaker 2This is what I do for a living. I mean, I absolutely love it. I get to like talk to my best friend and run a company with my best friend and all the people that we,
39:50Speaker 2all of our employees, I freaking love them. So my head's there even there now. Yep. You know, they had to help me get on the computer because I'm such a doofus on computers, so we'll leave it there.
39:59Speaker 2But,
40:00Speaker 2you know,
40:02Speaker 2what has worked for me is meditation.
40:05Speaker 2I meditate a lot. I pray a lot.
40:08Speaker 2I find my sinner through that stuff by
40:12Speaker 2When I'm personally close with God, I feel like God taps me on the shoulder and
40:17Speaker 2tells me, Hey man, you gotta put that phone down, dude. It's time to put the phone down
40:22Speaker 2and go play with your kids. So to answer your question, brother, I'm here in Cabo and even I'm struggling with it right now,
40:31Speaker 2but the meditation
40:32Speaker 2stuff helps.
40:33Speaker 2And Will and I went to this,
40:36Speaker 2I don't know what you would call it, like a Bible study type
40:40Speaker 2for businessman
40:41Speaker 2type deal. I don't have no idea what you would call it, but he was talking about just the subject.
40:46Speaker 2So it is very universal and, you know, his take was you can come in at 10 and you'll be more successful if you get at work at 10. Remember that 1? Well, actually, you know what? Speaking of that, you know what? Hey, man. I'm really excited to watch the business' sales just skyrocket now that you're on vacation.
41:02Speaker 3Remember him saying that? You ever noticed? Yeah. When you take a vacation,
41:06Speaker 3your business just your sales just skyrocket? And I was like, no.
41:10Speaker 0Is that I don't know if that's the thing. Was looking in front of you, man. I was like,
41:17Speaker 2of was like, well, I don't know. But it is it is universal, man. And, but I'll tell you this, dude. Like, we all know this too. It's like,
41:23Speaker 2I've had these moments in the last 2 days where I'm watching my sons, and they're smiling from ear to ear, and I'm filming them and just capturing it.
41:32Speaker 2And
41:32Speaker 2that those times are worth any money in my bank account for sure.
41:37Speaker 2But there's a balance because because I work I'm able to afford places to come to Cabo, so there's a balance, man. So it's universal, man. We're blabbing, but we're with you, man. Yeah, dude. Yep. It's part of being a dad, but you're kicking ass because you're thinking about it. Don't drink no more, man. You are on the same path. I could tell you go backwards, that's gonna suck. Your life will continue to improve.
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42:59Speaker 2Keep not drinking. That's a promise.
43:02Speaker 3True. Good luck. Alright. Who's that? Hey, guys. Was curious about ARA in 290.
43:08Speaker 3I haven't heard you guys talk about this peptide yet. It seems like it can help a lot of people with, neuropathic
43:13Speaker 3type pain,
43:14Speaker 3and it doesn't seem like we have anything else for nerve pain. Any thoughts on this peptide, and it is is it worth exploring?
43:21Speaker 3Thanks in advance.
43:23Speaker 3Yo, so good timing. Like, you're you're right about this. I have heard of
43:28Speaker 3ARA 2 90. I've, I heard good good things, and we actually are
43:33Speaker 3about to try it and,
43:38Speaker 3and try it, and then we can come back here and let you know what we we think.
43:43Speaker 3So
43:43Speaker 3I don't have again, I have never tried it, so I'm not gonna pretend I have and
43:49Speaker 3but it is
43:50Speaker 3for neuropathy,
43:51Speaker 3those people who have some overactive nerve pain or maybe an, I don't know, an actual injury that they don't want to feel as much,
44:01Speaker 3but I've heard some good things about it. So, yeah, we're actually in the process of getting it and trying it, and then we'll come back and talk about it. We'll probably do a peptide of the week on it pretty soon.
44:11Speaker 2Yeah, that sounds great because I don't yeah, we have not either neither of us has tried it, so we will report back to you, but great question.
44:19Speaker 2All right. Me? Yeah.
44:21Speaker 2All right. I thank you for the awesome podcast and school classroom. I'm a 49 year old woman in premenopause,
44:28Speaker 2170
44:29Speaker 2pounds,
44:29Speaker 2five'nine,
44:30Speaker 2muscular frame on HRT,
44:33Speaker 218 months, and TRT, 2 weeks. Reta, 4 weeks. I was on Tessa Ipablen for 2 weeks, but vials kept gelling up on me, I get up. Initial intent is to trim up and kick the fatigue.
44:46Speaker 2The TRT edition
44:48Speaker 2has greatly improved my fatigue.
44:50Speaker 2Now looking to tackle the brain fog. It's awful. We'll start we'll starting a cycle of
44:57Speaker 2meadow pure
44:58Speaker 2plus SS-thirty
44:59Speaker 21 be my 1st step? Question mark. Then cycle cerebralizin,
45:04Speaker 22 weeks, then MOTS C plus NAD
45:07Speaker 2for 4 to 6 weeks.
45:09Speaker 2Stay on meadow for the whole time? Question mark. Long term patient plan to fix the worst problem. Thoughts.
45:14Speaker 2Thanks again, you guys rock. And tea.
45:17Speaker 3What do you think, Will? I'm trying to figure out what the questions are here. Then,
45:23Speaker 3okay, 1st of all, NAD and Brain fog. NAD and MOTS -3. I think you should run them much longer than 4 to 6 weeks.
45:31Speaker 3I would say maybe
45:32Speaker 34 months,
45:36Speaker 33 to 4 months.
45:37Speaker 3Brain fog,
45:39Speaker 3c cerebralizing is a good is a good, potential option. C
45:44Speaker 3Max,
45:45Speaker 3k, gives you a little bit of energy and is neuroprotective.
45:49Speaker 3PE 22 28.
45:52Speaker 3I just started taking that. I just started taking,
45:55Speaker 3Pinealon,
45:57Speaker 3C Max,
45:59Speaker 3Selank,
46:00Speaker 3and PE-2228,
46:02Speaker 3all together. I good. I feel like it's absolute just kind of brain
46:07Speaker 3stim,
46:09Speaker 3not a pure stimulant,
46:11Speaker 3okay, but
46:13Speaker 3I definitely feel like I'm thinking clearer and
46:16Speaker 3awake and more energetic mentally.
46:18Speaker 3I like it. I've been taking it every day for a week,
46:21Speaker 3so I
46:22Speaker 3think that those are great things. Yep,
46:26Speaker 3There's my answer. Pinealon also potentially everything
46:29Speaker 3else you're taking, great.
46:32Speaker 2And, yeah, go ahead. Play out. Cerebrolysin is actually really interesting too. 30 one's gonna warm you up and then the the MOTS c for sure. NAD,
46:40Speaker 2I think you I don't think you weigh. I think you do it now.
46:43Speaker 2And, again, you know, there's a lot of redundancy when we say this, but add in some HGH or get up there. That's going to help with just
46:51Speaker 2you should because you're a 49 year old lady,
46:54Speaker 2anybody basically over 40, in my opinion, that's really gonna help with that. But Semax,
46:59Speaker 2Selank, add those in for sure. Try them. That's gonna help out.
47:03Speaker 2Now, if it's something,
47:05Speaker 2I'll take a little left turn, if it's something that you need a direct focus on,
47:10Speaker 2we've done a podcast on it and a lot of people responded heavily to it. Monaffinil,
47:14Speaker 2if it's a certain focus for a day, it's not something that you wanna take every day, but it does give you super clear clarity of thought and give you focus. So if you ever have a day that you just need to study or need to focus,
47:27Speaker 2those are the days that I use that, and that can help with that too. But, yeah,
47:31Speaker 2there you go. Hope that helps. No doubt.
47:34Speaker 3And Last 1. Last 1. This is like a bonus question. Question
47:39Speaker 3from the crunchy anti pharma holistic natural type. Can you explain to me how the raw material is sourced
47:47Speaker 3and what it is before it is linked together to create a certain peptide?
47:53Speaker 3Okay. Can we,
47:55Speaker 3kind of?
47:56Speaker 3I can kind of explain it to you. I mean, without,
47:59Speaker 3I mean, an ex for real explanation, probably you wouldn't understand nor I would.
48:03Speaker 3Anyway, but here is the thing. Source. So it
48:08Speaker 3is very hard. So people ask this this all the time. In
48:12Speaker 3the majority of all the raws that are making the peptides that everybody here is using all come from from China. Okay? Because when making these,
48:23Speaker 3the byproduct
48:24Speaker 3is harmful for the environment. And to make these peptide raws on a scale that actually supports the use of The United States Of America, you gotta make a lot. Okay? And that lot of,
48:38Speaker 3of environmental kind of pollution
48:41Speaker 3is too much for our EPA.
48:44Speaker 3So people say, well, it's made in America. Like, no, it's not. They're not The raws are not made here in America because we can't. Nobody can have a large, large, large scale facility,
48:55Speaker 3and make them here. Now, you can. Cool. Trevor was on here telling us he did it. Like, right, he can start, you can make these, you can make the actual rods here, but on a small scale for like personal use or for, you know, just for,
49:07Speaker 3you know, because this is not going notice. Now, how do you make it is this is,
49:12Speaker 3solid phase what do what did I forget? Solid phase,
49:16Speaker 3where is my 1st Peptide synthesis. So solid phase peptide synthesis. They essentially just go find and isolate
49:24Speaker 3an amino acid,
49:25Speaker 3find they decide, hey, what peptide are we making? Right?
49:28Speaker 3This is the best explanation. I'm sure it's way more scientific than this, but they just tiny
49:33Speaker 3molecules
49:34Speaker 3and they find and they just attach these these single amino acids
49:38Speaker 3into a chain, which is what a peptide is, until they have they have connected the right amino acids together, and now we have our peptide.
49:46Speaker 3That
49:49Speaker 3is done through this solid phase of
49:52Speaker 3through this this
49:54Speaker 3way of doing it is not a, like, biologic way to do it. It is all synthetic.
49:59Speaker 3The interesting thing that we learned from the owner of Janoschik is that there is no way that that process
50:05Speaker 3can produce any endotoxins.
50:09Speaker 3So
50:10Speaker 3the worry on endotoxins,
50:12Speaker 3right, the only endotoxin comes from any contaminant
50:15Speaker 3of the facilities
50:16Speaker 3or or drums that this stuff is made in. Now so they can make these small chain peptides that way.
50:25Speaker 3To make the bigger, longer chain ones, something like HGH,
50:28Speaker 3Cerebrolysin,
50:29Speaker 3you don't really I think Cerebrolysin is is a mix of a bunch of peptides, but HGH is such a long chains, that needs chain, that needs to be organically made, and it is grown in actual, like, organic culture, sometimes in E. Coli,
50:44Speaker 3and
50:46Speaker 3that then can produce some endotoxins. But
50:49Speaker 3that's the best, I don't know, simplified way I could say it. That's how they that is how it's made in a giant multimillion
50:56Speaker 3dollar
50:56Speaker 3facility.
50:58Speaker 3Trevor, you know, told us about this and said, hey,
51:03Speaker 3world trade, okay, we get together and kind of make these make these decisions on so so big countries don't start manufacturing the same exact thing and then we can't trade. Right? And he says that the
51:13Speaker 3the trade off that America and China made was, hey, China, you make raws, it's illegal for China to make finished products. K? They're allowed to make raw materials
51:22Speaker 3of peptides specifically. I don't know about other things, but they just cannot make the finished models. They still do, duh, because we hear about, you know, people buying buying finished peptides from China all the time, but they're supposed to make the raws,
51:35Speaker 3then we finish them here. So they have something to make and manufacture,
51:39Speaker 3we have something to buy, and then we can make and manufacture the rest of it. But
51:45Speaker 3so, yeah, that's how the life cycle works and should work.
51:50Speaker 2I don't know. Anything else? It is. I love that. Crunchy mom. My wife my wife calls herself a crunchy mom, so I found that to be funny. You know what I just learned also recently? Here's a couple of fun facts is, a,
52:01Speaker 3the FDA, nobody can get a patent on anything that is made in
52:05Speaker 3naturally in our body. So like BPC-one
52:07Speaker 357, you can never patent that.
52:10Speaker 3Right? Regardless if,
52:12Speaker 3if you
52:14Speaker 3remake it synthetically,
52:16Speaker 3you're still making what our body made, and this is why you're not seeing like, BPC is probably the most effective peptide that we know of, right? And it's been around the longest. Yeah. Like, why is not that top of the list for big pharma? Well,
52:29Speaker 3they can't patent it. They can't patent it and make millions and stop anybody else. They can't control the thing, so they don't even try.
52:37Speaker 3So
52:38Speaker 3and and the other thing I thought that Trevor had told us is when taking things into clinical trials, what's really interesting is they have a absolute policy
52:47Speaker 3that
52:48Speaker 3they have to take only the drug and proceed with that drug that has the highest percentage success
52:56Speaker 3rate.
52:57Speaker 3So imagine if you
53:00Speaker 3have a drug that has a 98 percent success rate and is incredibly expensive,
53:05Speaker 3and it will be incredibly expensive for the consumer to use, okay? Then you have another drug that's at 97
53:10Speaker 3percent success rate, right?
53:13Speaker 3But the cost is about a 100 times less for the customer, for the consumer end result. FDA will say, nope, we are you can only we that 97 percent 1, throw it in the trash, we're not hearing it. We will only take we'll only listen to the 98 percent, and we will only allow clinical trials and potential
53:31Speaker 3approval for that drug and that drug only, which is seems like a dumb rule.
53:37Speaker 3But I learned that from Trevor the other day, but that's just a dumb rule. So those are some quick fun facts. So basically, what he said in so many words is why does anybody care about what the FDA says? Yeah. Yeah. Kinda.
53:48Speaker 0Yeah.
53:49Speaker 2And really, the FDA approved, what does that mean? Who cares? Yeah. Who cares? Who cares? But, yeah, man, that was great. For anybody, I don't know how this would come out. I think our editor is pretty good at what he does. It probably might sound low, but he'll he'll make it sound good. I was gonna think about maybe doing the peptide of the week here, but I think I fly in early enough on Friday. I can dart from
54:09Speaker 2the,
54:10Speaker 2ret dart from the airport and just we can record in the in the in the studio. I think that would be better for everybody.
54:16Speaker 2If Will will be there around 3, 03:30. I can do that. I can't but I normally leave for that. You normally leave the office about 10AM on Fridays, but I'll stay for you. I'm just kidding. We'll talk about it. So other than that, we'll do it on the we can either do it here, but we'll figure it out. But other than that, join the school. We have the newsletter that is out, and we want people to be on that. It's gonna give you a breakdown of, like, everything we discussed, especially on the Peptide of the Week podcast.
54:41Speaker 2What else we got, Will?
54:43Speaker 3We have some new stuff coming out in school, but guys, I don't know. The whole point is to try to give
54:48Speaker 3everybody as much, I don't know, just
54:50Speaker 3information
54:51Speaker 3and access can, man. To this stuff that we love and we know works.
54:54Speaker 3So we're we're constantly putting out some more
54:57Speaker 3more videos and just information on school, so please join that if you haven't,
55:02Speaker 3already.
55:04Speaker 2And
55:05Speaker 2If you guys have any requests in the in the next couple days, day or 2 on the what you would like us to do podcasts
55:12Speaker 2on, we're always open ears. We listen. We do read every 1 of them. At least some of our team will go through all those, and
55:19Speaker 3we will listen. So give us some feedback. Other than that, we'll 1 more time. 1 more thing. Yeah. You got it. So we are coming up with my family. Coming up soon, we have a guest. We we have a guest that is that
55:31Speaker 3is an expert on water. I know it sounds crazy, but like I talked to her and like, holy shit, I never knew there was so much to know about water and
55:38Speaker 3how
55:39Speaker 3much it can change a person's body based on pH, acidity, etcetera, etcetera, based on certain conditions. So we're actually having her on on as a guest here soon,
55:50Speaker 3because the goal of this is is peptides, but any other just kind of
55:54Speaker 3biohacking
55:55Speaker 3and and fitness,
55:57Speaker 3life, happiness, rejuvenation hack possible.
56:00Speaker 3We wanna just bring it to the people.
56:03Speaker 2Yeah,
56:05Speaker 2was telling Will this, but a good friend of mine for the longest time,
56:09Speaker 2dad,
56:10Speaker 2stepdad,
56:11Speaker 2but
56:12Speaker 2was
56:13Speaker 2just
56:14Speaker 2this renowned doctor and I just never knew him to be who he was until his
56:20Speaker 2wife. He has Alzheimer's now, he's not doing too well, but just this renowned doctor, just well known, wrote all the journals and stuff. But anyways,
56:29Speaker 2his wife came in on Friday when we opened up the warehouse and she and I were talking. I've known her for a long time and she just saw what we've done.
56:38Speaker 2Anyway, she started telling me what he did, which he was into that type of medicine, holistic medicine, where he was the 1st person in the 80s to start fighting an FDA. I had no clue about this. I was blown away by it. Started fighting the FDA. His whole family's surgeon, just brilliant people.
56:54Speaker 2And right
56:55Speaker 2before he graduated, he was realizing, Wait, why I
56:59Speaker 2operating on this person if we can heal it? He was just like, This doesn't make any sense. So graduated and just went to this other direction
57:07Speaker 2and opened up the 1st wellness center. It was called Whitaker Wellness. Hyperbarics,
57:12Speaker 2red light, they didn't prescribe any pharmaceuticals.
57:15Speaker 2They
57:17Speaker 2fought cancer in just totally different areas. Right in my cup of tea. Was like, Oh my gosh, how did I not know this? They
57:23Speaker 2just did a documentary on this guy and
57:25Speaker 2best documentary I've ever seen. It was so rad. He was just the 1st punk rocker just fighting the FDA, suing the FDA. Just was blown away by that. The reason I'm saying that is there's just other stuff out there. So Peptides is a peptide podcast, but we're gonna try to bring on guests, any type of guest that has a different way of looking at things, whether we agree with them or not, it's not even the point.
57:47Speaker 2So other people can make your own opinion, make an educated opinion on these things because we're all grownups.
57:53Speaker 2We believe the pharmaceutical companies are there to make money. If you haven't figured that out by now, whatever, then do some research. There's other ways of doing things and that's why peptides are blowing up, but it's not all peptides. It's hyperbaric red light. We could go on for days, water.
58:07Speaker 2And that's who we would like to have on. So if you, that rings a bell and then you know anybody that's kind of outside the box and would, you know, let us know of some people that might be a good fit for the show and we'll dig into them and we might just reach out. Right on.
58:22Speaker 3Cool? Alright, enjoy your trip. Go relax.
58:25Speaker 3Alright, guys. Talk to you soon. Later. Thanks, buddy. Bye, guys. Peace.