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1:24Speaker 4Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way, Mr. William T. Haas, like always. What's up? What's up, man? We have
3:30Speaker 5be in the bubble. The stewardess. Everybody would be all, put him in the bubble. Put him in the bubble. It's a good idea. I've often thought when I have a kid, like these soundproofing things that we have here, just make a closet. Now, guys, I'm not serious about this, but
3:42Speaker 5like soundproof the closet for kids being crazy. And like, it also where they can't hurt and it's all padded,
3:48Speaker 5just shut up and lock you in there and you can't now talk to us and nobody can hear you and you can't hurt yourself. Padded her back When
4:02Speaker 4everybody knows my stance. I'm crying and I'm this dad and I'm trying to mold them into men. Like, I go, listen, this is the no crying section. You are allowed to cry if you feel like you need to cry. And that's your room. You go in there, we're gonna shut the door. You cry it out and they usually stop crying. That's fucking my cycle. You're so hard. I'm like, I'm like, listen, like he's screaming at the top of his lungs. Either I throw him on the roof.
4:29Speaker 5Speaking of, we, I went to the little league night day at Angel Stadium on Sunday. So we got there at 8AM to tailgate for a 1PM game.
4:42Speaker 5kids had fun, but it's funny. So we sat down in the stadium. 1st of all, we're in, like, the whining sun.
4:52Speaker 5you know, you're not happy. You can, there's plenty of seats up here in the shade. Feel free to ask, tell, are you with everybody? Just tell everybody that y'all can be like, thank you. Oh, dude. Because I'm leaving in 5 minutes. But- Yeah. They had, she goes, Oh yeah, also, can you tell the kids, like, they gotta keep their shirts on? And I was like, Yeah, yeah.
5:09Speaker 5But she goes, So we've had just some kids, it's been a thing now. They're interested in kids take their shirts off and like
5:19Speaker 5but she's like, Don't have them do that, but we have a section for the no shirted kids over there. Rebels are across the stadium, literally. And the coach took river and like 2 other kids. He's like, I'm going to take them to the no shirt section.
5:33Speaker 5That's a section where the kids will be chatted soon up there. Yeah, exactly. Yes. So those kids up in the nosebleeds, all the nether shirts on, just running off, being crazy. Oh man, that's funny. It's kind of funny.
5:49Speaker 5No, but I looked for Dave Singh and I couldn't find him because I didn't, I guess I didn't look hard enough. But we have a good friend who just Oh, he's working? Yeah, cool. So he got approved.
6:06Speaker 5He had, he's been doing the OC Fair, so he's got a little trailer and he's set up so for all all the events at
6:17Speaker 5And it did and it did it. And he passed the tryout. They did say 1 of his best things are cookies. As you know, he's got these like 0.5 pound cookies.
6:27Speaker 5Angel Stadium basically said, thanks. You did great. You're in. You can't sell cookies. We got some We already got a cookie guy. Like, you can't be the cookie guy. He's like, well, whatever. But basically, what comes along with that is
6:41Speaker 5you have to be there for every event that takes place in Angel Stadium. Brutal. So you can't just be like, cool. You can come to the games that you want to come to. Right? No calling it sick. If you there's no calling it sick. So he was there, I'm sure. And any other event that's an Angel Stadium, but I was, you know, toting around a bunch of kids and- I didn't have time. Coffee wasn't on your mind. I gotta find, I gotta cool story about that. So Dave and I,
7:07Speaker 4We'd we'd meet up and we'd, I met him at the gym and his dad was sober and like, we just hit it off. Love Dave, just kindest guy in the world. He's like my brother. I freaking loved him from right away.
7:20Speaker 4he was going through a transition from not going to do that anymore, he didn't know what he was going to do. I was just, the mortgage industry had dried up and we were both in that limbo stage. What are we going to do? Remember we had sat down with Brett. We were, we were talking through all that stuff because we were really like digging into and we both started our businesses right at the same time. Did the fitness stuff. He did the coffee thing and we were talking about this the other day and like where we're both at now. We were like, both all like nervous. Like what are we going to do? You know, and now like, but the point of that is
7:49Speaker 4in between though is hard ass work, dude. We both pay, but people see this part. They're like, oh, you must nice
7:56Speaker 5and be lucky. Want this part too? Want me to share mere money? Here's the must be a nice part that you got to talk about too because it's 16 hour days of no sleep. No doubt. You know what mean? And the stress at all times.
8:07Speaker 5That's a cool story. So now he's, he's He's doing well. He's on his way to doing well. He's just gotta clean up his, like, business, like, the books and stuff because he's Hire somebody. Yeah.
8:21Speaker 5love him. Another friend, I'm wearing his shirt. It says, eat, pray left. And so our other friend just started this company.
8:45Speaker 5They say father figure. And he just became a dad. And he just became a dad and he's always wanted to for long time. They've been trying to be for a long time. They've given up, they gave up at 1 point. Yeah. What sucks
9:02Speaker 5JD doesn't like them, but I kind of liked these big shirts and I actually am very impressed with- I'd cut the sleeves-
9:13Speaker 4So, yeah, cool. Everybody go check this out. I think- I don't even know what the- We'll put it down at the bottom. Yeah, we can put it down. So same by you. And we also want to tell everybody for school, join school. It's people are loving it. We're continuing to put amazing stuff on there. And we are also,
9:37Speaker 4is ready to drop and there'll be a link below where you can sign up for that. And there's gonna be a lot of information on that. So a lot of stuff brewing,
9:49Speaker 4at the pace that we can provide them. We're still going to do the meetup because we get asked literally daily.
9:55Speaker 4Pedro was just talking about people at the gym. When is it? It's like, we're doing it. Yeah, so that's coming. We're
10:02Speaker 4traveling a lot in the next month. That's why we moved it from the 27th. We thought it was a wise decision to not just throw it together,
10:28Speaker 4Okay. We're gonna, we're gonna do this weekend. Sure. What we're going to do, well, this is going to drop on Thursday, so it's perfect. Okay, cool. So we're going to do this weekend.
10:38Speaker 4No, it's going be this weekend for father's day. So for Friday, we're going to have a locals
10:47Speaker 5and get a locals discount. We have a discount, any like, we have some like free, some swag do we give out and like, just to say hi and
10:57Speaker 5like, it's not like a big planned event or anything folks. Yeah. But if you like what we do and you're
11:06Speaker 4the team, get some stuff. And we are trying to cultivate that type of people. Want to like
11:43Speaker 5he sent us, he gave us a shirt and a couple of hats. And then I went and bought a couple more shirts.
11:49Speaker 5Didn't ask for a discount. Didn't ask for No, I haven't even told him yet that I bought them.
11:54Speaker 4I've seen people that order from us that I know. And I'm like, that dude, and then I text them and say, here's a discount code because bro, that's cool. That is cool. You know, I mean, not to knock people that ask for a discount, but people ask for a discount, but like the people that just do it because they want to support. Yeah. That is very cool. That is style. That's great. It's good stuff. Well, cool. Let's kick us off. We've got the Q and A and then we are hitting a plane. 1 Yes. Let's do it. 1. What's up fellas. Thank you for all you guys are doing. The world needed you guys.
12:23Speaker 5I have an odd question that hopefully you can For the legal side of peptide world, I know a few police officers in hot water with their agencies over peptides,
12:32Speaker 5or potential sales of peptides. Probably a big difference in the police's mind. Do you all know what
12:47Speaker 5Lap it low. Thank you again. Can't wait for the next peptide of the week. Right. That's a unique 1. That's a 1st It's unique question. It's a good question. So 1st of all,
12:57Speaker 5the peptides operate in definitely a gray space that's kind of tightening pretty fast. But
13:06Speaker 5just realize if you're a police officer, right, you also despite what things are legal and not legal, you probably have an elevated code of conduct
13:15Speaker 5that you need to look into that we can't that I have no idea what that is. But usually like, just because something's legal doesn't necessarily mean it's okay for a police officer to do. I would watch yourself.
13:38Speaker 5as a police officer. So just watch yours breed your own Yeah. Maybe like dude, I don't know. Seriously, it's not worth none of this stuff, it's not worth losing your badge or career over. That's for damn sure. Now we know intimately a company that
14:05Speaker 5shit. Getting our public servants who need their bodies to recover, right, and to work better,
14:11Speaker 5all the support they can possibly get plus putting some extra money in their pocket, plus giving them all discounts. Like I think that's awesome, but I'm sure there's some lawyers, some asshole out there that
14:21Speaker 5can find a way to profit off of this and to screw them over. Absolutely. Which is unfortunate.
14:27Speaker 5so the police officer, dude, I know that that's happening in the fire department. Now they need to make sure, you know, I'm sure they know the rules and they're very out and open. They're not doing this. Not
14:36Speaker 5like, Hey dude, Ruth is like toolbox here. Want to buy some peptides? This is a business that they have reps and firehouses.
14:51Speaker 5only use, like, to sell peptides, right, the ones that are not FDA approved, okay, all the peptides so the FDA approved ones are
15:05Speaker 5tirzepatide. God, we don't even deal with these things. I forget the names. Seriously.
15:23Speaker 5like, cannot be sold without a prescription. Okay? All the other ones that are not FDA approved can be sold, but they cannot be sold for human consumption. They need to be like research use only. So whoever's selling it, you cannot
15:37Speaker 5elude to, hey, you should you should buy this because you're going to use it or how to use it, etcetera. You're selling it and saying, hey, this is for you to do some home research and
15:53Speaker 5the but that doesn't really apply or affect this police officer. I think you need to check out what your own codes are, especially selling it. Yeah.
16:01Speaker 5There's a difference there. Like, Winstraw, for example, anabolic steroid, totally okay to possess and take
16:07Speaker 5unless you're a Olympic unless you're a professional athlete competing. Right. But also not okay to sell.
16:30Speaker 4mean, I would think that there's a big difference of, are they selling the peptides? Are they taking the peptides now? I think it really boils down to the department policy. I don't know if there's,
16:39Speaker 4would imagine the police departments have the same policies, but probably not. Don't think I bet. So like we had a gal that a police officer that came on 1 of my other podcasts and she had to get clearance and clearance and clearance, which was intelligent on her behalf.
16:55Speaker 4at 1 point to be pretty like, come on dude, but like it's her job. Right? And so I totally got it.
17:04Speaker 5she didn't get cleared and she's on, you know, a podcast talking about whatever pepcats and stuff, you know, she can get in trouble. Well, right. I think it's for sure a lot of, especially as far as the use goes, it's like a don't ask, don't tell. Right? Like what
17:31Speaker 4Are great, man. Yeah. We all know what they're for, but you can't sell them for human consumption. They have to be for research.
17:37Speaker 4Sell them as research. What do you do with the research? Up to you. You're an adult, act like it.
17:48Speaker 5I don't know. And be careful what you are selling to dude. Like just cause you can, you know, found some way to get something really cheap from China, like, that's not good enough to sell.
18:08Speaker 4Good. You got that. Number 2. Hey, JD and Will. I've been seeing discussion lately around Tesamorelin
18:16Speaker 4mainly because gastric emptying is slowed in the typical 3 to 4 hour fasting window before bed can be tough to manage
18:51Speaker 4Just trying to understand the approach is actually best from both an effective and practicality
19:00Speaker 4He's obviously thought through that and probably done some research, but that's a great question. And I think I ought to correct you that
19:07Speaker 5okay. So I just I just we're gonna post something to school that's very similar and kind of is a is my I've done a bunch of research on this and a well thought out answer to this and encompassing some other things, but basically on Tesa and Retta, which is a freaking awesome combination.
19:24Speaker 5But the dosing times do matter. And I will tell you that I might just say something that kind of contradicts
19:35Speaker 5gross. There's new information. But the 1st thing is you said that, so the 2 mg, we have never ever, ever, ever said to take 2 mg of Tesamorelin,
19:45Speaker 5ever. Now the FDA, I'm reading this is literally from the FDA approved, approved dosing,
20:05Speaker 5because that will the medication they're taking, it will freeze and it ultimately can be fatal. So
20:19Speaker 5So they're throwing everything at it. Who cares about the other side effects that 2 mg of Tesamorelin are going to produce?
20:30Speaker 5I don't care if they look bad or bloated or blah, blah, blah. Right? But they are going to fix this problem. So that 2 mg that you've heard, we've never said it. And I
20:45Speaker 5trim up and have their growth hormone boosted a bit. Right? I think so. Still stand by the starting point and 0.5 of a milligram
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21:42Speaker 3Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. I get so many headaches every month. It could be chronic migraine 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more. Botox on a botulinum toxin A prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those who have 14 or fewer headache days a month. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects.
23:10Speaker 5it tells your body, Hey, there's a bunch of sugar and we just ate a big meal, which it really didn't. Our bodies then produces pushes a whole bunch of insulin out. Okay? So when we're taking Retta, your body's you're pushing a bunch of insulin into your body. Yeah. So,
23:30Speaker 5So the goal here is to separate those as much as possible. Now, unfortunately GLP-one is a 5 day activated, right, thing like, so there's
23:45Speaker 5even at all equal to the plus of the synergy of putting them together. So here's the quick easy recommendation is we have always said take Tesamorelin at night. Okay? Why that is what it's FDA approved to take at night. Why? Because that links up to your circadian rhythm of when our biggest natural growth hormone pulses is at night. And we're trying to like boost that up.
24:15Speaker 5but you've eaten all day usually. Okay. Even if you don't eat 2 hours before, you're still got a little bit of insulin going down. Right. It is better to take Tesamorelin
24:30Speaker 5That's more important than the circadian rhythm joining up and take Retta at nighttime. So the quick answer, the bottom line, Reta at night,
24:43Speaker 5Right? But if you didn't take them, you want to separate them as much as possible. Right? Reta 3 times a week, Tessa daily,
24:51Speaker 5but on a fasted state on the Tesamorelin. Yeah. Don't eat either another hour after you take it. So 8 hour fast, because you're sleeping, take your dose of Tesa, don't eat for another hour, but also at that Reta 3 times a week at night, I'd go 2 hours before you eat that. Cause that's also heavily influenced by
25:08Speaker 5you being fasted or not. Yeah. Generally 2 hours ish, 2 hours ish. And then hour on the after. And it's not easy at night, dude. No, no. We all get hungry at night. Plus trying to go to sleep.
25:29Speaker 4Well, with you that asked this like 6 months ago, it would have been a different answer because the
25:34Speaker 4peptides are obviously being more studied more and you have so many people taking them. You have so many,
25:42Speaker 4much feedback. It's just, it's changing. It's evolving. It's great. So much research. Gosh, if you looked at some of the 1st podcasts that we did, we've changed from it because we have worked with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people since then. And again, we've said it a 100 times how something reads isn't exactly how it's going to actually play out in the human body because that's just science projects.
26:02Speaker 4Yeah, that I think that you nailed it. I wouldn't have answered that that way either. But as we've learned more 3 now, if you pull out Retta, it changes the whole Kind of,
26:38Speaker 5I always like taking Retta because at night everybody, by the way, like some people get nauseous from it still, right? Semaglutide, super, a lot of nausea, definitely take it right before you go to bed. So the worst nausea you're, you sleep through same thing, which is appetite.
26:53Speaker 5I would, I still have, you know, just kind of kept with that and said, take Retta at night because if there happens to be any nausea, you'll sleep it off. No problem. And I guess I would say, so then definitely I would, let's try not to take the test at night. Also it's those of you who've taken it, like it's still going to work. Yeah. Just you're
27:12Speaker 5going to amplify it a little bit more by taking it in the morning. But if you pull Retta completely, I don't know, man. I think that this is like- Still going, you're, you're, so you- Still might just be the better idea to take it in morning. Interesting.
27:25Speaker 5I don't know. Try both. It's try both. Like, here's the like, we're still studying. Like, scientists seems to be
27:31Speaker 4not exactly sure of what is- Well, yeah, you have to, like, also, like, I think the best thing is, how do you feel? That's how do you feel? Because that, I think like if some, if a man says, you need to take this much testosterone and you needed to take this much of this boy, that's like bro science, right? And that's going to give you a beacon. But like, how do you feel? Like if you feel great,
27:52Speaker 4then maybe you shouldn't touch it. You know what I mean? If you take the test at night and then you switch it, you do it for like maybe like 3 weeks each and switch it. How do you feel? Try that. Like that's, that's, that's the research
28:11Speaker 4with my own experience where I'm not even going take peptides at night. I've had so much sleeping problems and I don't, I'm doing so good in sleeping now that I'm not even going to mess with So like I take all my peptides in the morning and I don't take any at night. It's been great for me. Saying you're me, but like that,
28:27Speaker 4I don't want to take people when they sometimes when people take a read out, they don't sleep that well. It's just, it is what it is. So taking it at night, could mess that up. But anyways, you have to just try. It
28:45Speaker 4but once again, got to just try them both. See how you feel baby. But your answer is now Tessa morning.
28:55Speaker 4So I got, I'm gonna say Tessa Ippel though. Am going say Tesa. I know. He's a Tesa Ipamorelin. Just
29:07Speaker 5Maximize it. If Ipamorelin's gonna just synergistically make it work that much better, like, what why not? Why not? And there's a blend now, so just- There's, yeah,
29:26Speaker 5But there's also blends like a like a 5 mg, 5 mg, 10 mg, 3 mg, which I think is a good 10 mg, 3 mg, I think is a good ratio. That's basically like 3 parts,
29:36Speaker 5Tessa to 1 part Ipah. I think that's really good for women because the Ipah we know is too much HGH
29:46Speaker 5can add can end up in a little bit too much water retention and especially for women because they're sensitive to everything and like a 3 to 1 ratio
29:56Speaker 5seems to really work well for a lot of people. You. Yeah. And Paul, I don't think ever said 2 mg of tests. I don't think we, we've never said 2 mg of Tesamore. Don't remember, man. We have done a lot of podcasts,
30:10Speaker 5But that is what the clinical team says. So I Get rolling, baby. Okay. I've been contemplating
30:19Speaker 5Wondering, 1, is this a good 1 to start with? 2, if so, what other supplements like vitamins, collagen do you recommend pairing with it?
30:27Speaker 5If Cloak isn't the 1 to use before a surgery like this, what would you suggest in achieving optimal healing?
30:44Speaker 4And I'm thinking you're going with the CLO because of the KPV, because that's obviously great too. Like the reason I'm going say start with the Wolverine is just because you can take a shit ton out of it as you should.
30:56Speaker 4countless times that, my surgery, I took massive, massive, massive doses of the Wolverine. And I have no doubt in my mind that it expedited my healing,
31:06Speaker 4cut it down by at least 0.333, maybe 0.667, literally. Was in the gym 2 weeks later. So,
31:21Speaker 4because of that. Can take a ton. How much did you take? I don't know. How much can you afford? Like literally before
31:27Speaker 4the surgery, like start dosing about 3 weeks at least. And then when you have that surgery, just blast it. I mean, I was taking huge doses where even I was like, you sure bro? And
31:43Speaker 4Just, I would personally separate it from that because you can't control that mountain and CLO. So a lot of Wolverine
31:49Speaker 4add in the GHK-3s, which is going to be great for the collagen production. Do the key KPV 2 for gut, but that's how I'm gonna answer that for sure. I would agree. So here's in a more practical sense, like, the GHKCu
32:06Speaker 5have your body create more collagen right there on the skin layer. So it's actually showing that to heal skin wounds faster. And what you are trying to do is not have scars on your abdominal surgery. Right? And like, so absolutely
32:22Speaker 5And if you take CLO, you have equal 1 parts, not actually equal, but like a 10 megs BPC-ten
32:33Speaker 5what it is. You have to be in that ratio. Okay? We don't I wouldn't really take more than, you know, 3.5
32:47Speaker 53 times a week, like 3.3 mg of it. And then I would also buy the BPC plus TB 500 mix, which is the Wolverine blend
33:07Speaker 5days, especially after saturate that. And we're talking, I mean, I would talk, I don't know,
33:13Speaker 52 to 5 mg a day. If you can afford more, go ahead, but like more realistically, right. 2 mgs to 5 mg at least for the 1st month after and put it right there. Hell, SNAP-eight might not be even be after it is. Guys, we're talking, do not inject this stuff into an open wound, right? Like the goal is to put that like a triangle kind of around where the surgery is. So we're trying to really just saturate from all angles with
33:38Speaker 5all of this, you know, stem cell healing properties and collagen absorption signaling of BPC and TB-five 100 all around there. SNAP-eight
34:21Speaker 5hormone signaling, right? That's your body growing and healing faster. So that'll give you kind of an overall systemic thing. And then we got the CLO plus Wolverine,
34:36Speaker 4Boom. That's it. Thank you. Luck with that. I like it. Yeah. Keep us posted. You'll have good luck. Wolverine. That's why we choose it as our favorite, but just because it's a, you can use a ton of it as you should. And it's just universal.
34:51Speaker 4All right. Hi all. Hello from Scotland. Glad I found the group of your amazing podcasts. Thinking of doing carnivore, but heard it doesn't go well on Reta due to the high fat content.
35:29Speaker 4Braveheart. Oh. Braveheart. That's amazing. Planet. Scotland's full of Scots. Yeah. Dude. Assholes.
35:38Speaker 5So does Americans from some point of view, but we all suck every conquering. Dude, I sold that movie like And
35:48Speaker 4Still, I will still watch that. When you're done, it's like when he kills his bride, just did, you will die.
36:09Speaker 4something about that gene, bro. Like it's, that's for sure. Agree. Yeah, I'm a carnivore. I can tell you I've done Retta and
36:25Speaker 4which is the best I can give you because it's my experience. I was on Carnivore for 5 years
36:55Speaker 4You think that you'll get a little bit of benefit more from it if you do add a little bit of carbs in. What's
37:03Speaker 4I mean, that's always the answer to that question. Are you trying to lose weight? You're trying to get buff. Are you, that plays a huge role in it. You know, I was, I was, you know, super lean and in shape,
37:15Speaker 4so I could get away with carbs. You know, I love the carnivore lifestyle. And since I've started, I've ping pong back and forth because once you haven't had cars for 5 years and you have them, damn, they're good.
37:35Speaker 4Should you? I really think from a standpoint of the objective is going to answer that better. Yes, you can get away with carnivore and doing some carbs, even maybe try what I'm doing right now is carbs before you lift carbs after, keep it real low,
37:53Speaker 4even going to notice body wise that you're those carbs. It's gonna, you're gonna do well with them. But if you want to stay strict carnivore,
38:00Speaker 4yes, you can. Yep. Absolutely. You totally can. It's a good thing. In fact, it will make enhance everything now.
38:13Speaker 5that's a different story. But, like, if you're just if you're trying to take Retta and do carnivore because you wanna look good and lose weight, like,
38:21Speaker 5don't do the full carnivore. You can have some carbs. Yeah. It you're Especially on Retta. Retta, like, the Retta is
38:27Speaker 5so low carnivore is gonna be as low as, like, it's gonna increase your insulin sensitivity.
38:37Speaker 5taking Retta is actually gonna boost pump more insulin in you, which is gonna work even better
38:50Speaker 5Can eat a little bit of carbs because the Retta would just take care of that. Will just absorb it and the insulin will kill it off and it'll take some IGF-one too, like before you lift and like, bro, if you're eating a good amount of protein, just sucks all these nutrients that you're getting right in the right places. I
39:13Speaker 5having a low having a high protein and high fat diet can slow digestion a little bit. Okay? That's why you feel a bit fuller longer from fat. Okay? That's a good thing. Right? It can also reduce your appetite. So it can further
39:34Speaker 5you don't want it to freeze. Yeah. You know? So fiber, you could actually add pure fiber supplement,
39:41Speaker 5which which is not carnivore negates the carnivore, but it keeps you keto. It's wise. Yeah. So I
39:47Speaker 4had that issue towards the end. I don't know how long I did red. I don't really track it, but maybe 6 months give or take. And I was having some stomach problems towards the end and I was pretty confident it was red. So I jumped off for sure. Drink lots of water.
40:03Speaker 5Just hydrate, get those stuff moving, eat enough fat. Right? If people do carnivore and just eat too much protein, that's really gonna slow that gut down. You have said like, Hey dude, the more fat you know you're eating enough fat, if you poop just bloop easy.
40:49Speaker 5keto is like, I don't care. You just know, no carbs to throw you out of ketosis and mostly protein. Yeah. Ketos are, you gotta track macros like crazy. Kind of. You gotta know your macros and keep these things. Just makes things get more complicated. Does. Carbs eat the
41:31Speaker 5It's about the only thing that's just pure fat. Yeah. Nuts aren't even pure fat. They have some protein in them. Eggs aren't. I guess you could eat egg yolks, but still yolk has a little protein.
41:45Speaker 5is basically how we store water in our muscles, right? So you will notice for sure on keto, carnivore, you might start cramping up a lot easier. So this is why you need to water,
41:55Speaker 5water, water, water. Electrolyte. Yes. Salt. Salt. Your electrolyte, the only electrolyte you can get is from salt. You'll see a lot of these like isopure
42:05Speaker 5long time ago, they made that stuff for people in keto. You look at the content and it's
42:13Speaker 5And an uneducated mind would be like, wow, like, oh, that's so bad for you. It's all salt. Well, the whole point is because they're most of their stuff is just no, no, no carbs. They know you got no carbs. You better find a way to hold water in your body. And salt sodium is the only way to do it. And if you're doing it correctly, that's okay. It's not bad. If you're just to
42:35Speaker 5salt all day along with your sugar stuff, then it's bad. But if you're doing everything right, sodium can be good is good for you. Right?
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44:19Speaker 4you're not gonna really absorb a lot of that water, dude. So you gotta throw that my my wife always, like, laughs because I always have a ton of salt in my because it's you you use it. Yep. Absolutely. Your body needs it. But I think the fiber will really help. It's not nivore, but if we're doing keto, dude, the yeast- How hard core carnivore do you want to do? If you want to be do it for like the reason of like some of the guys that are just,
44:40Speaker 4they have their, that's what they do and they won't break it. Or like me, I was like, a avocado was a carnivore. No, but like it's fat and I liked it and it worked for me. So what's your objective? What's your objective? Not that simple. All right, good job.
44:59Speaker 5going mostly carnivore, but I'm not going to be strict on it, but just basically I'm cutting out. Here's the thing folks I have learned in my life. If I can not eat sweets
45:08Speaker 5and get enough protein, like protein's my barometer. If you're just working to get enough protein, right, if you can get like in for a big man, right, 2 50 pounds, right? Gram a pound. If I want it 2 g, which is pretty impossible,
45:22Speaker 52 g of protein per pound of body Man, that's a lot. Shit ton of protein. Yeah. It's 500 grams of protein. Right? It's not really doable.
45:30Speaker 5That is, but I'm going for at least a gram, very minimum, at least that's even hard to do. It is.
45:42Speaker 5guess what? I'm probably getting enough fat if I'm not going full keto, right? Like I'm getting my dietary need of fat. I'm probably not, and I'm not eating sweets.
45:50Speaker 5I'm guarantee you that I'm not eating a bunch of other carbs because they can't even fit with that much protein coming in. Right? Yeah. You're full. And you start to just go, god dang. I am doing all these good things for my body. I don't want that I don't want that shit. Takes a while. You will see I don't know. For me, it, like, works fast. Like, I don't notice in a couple days before we're gonna be like, dude, I'm cutting out this to grow. The the when you don't crave the sugars. Yes. Oh, that does. You have to change your taste buds and that's not easy. I've done it numerous times. I'm in the middle of it now. Like I keep kind of like thinking, because I feel better. I feel better when I am on full carnivore,
46:24Speaker 4I'm getting older and my body's like, my God, he's going through some changes. So I like, I'm toying around with some different diet stuff just to see where I can find that sweet spot. And those carbs,
46:34Speaker 4I get a little bloated, just how it is. But I look bigger. So like, what is your What's your objective? If you wanna get ripped Frozen colors. Carnivore will rip you up, dude. It will rip you hardcore carnivore for a month, I'm telling you, you will drop fat like crazy. Then you wanna get worse. You wanna get me buff really 1 day as I do carnivore and then some carbs. Some carbs. You'll go, like, holy shit. Were twice the size. And I'm still looking lean, a little bit up because you've, then you IGF-one,
47:04Speaker 5But, so I've just started to do that because we were leaving to go on a little vacation that might be
47:14Speaker 51 month to really get in shape. I know, and I'm not taking really any testosterone or any other like performance enhancing supplements because I'm trying to make a baby, but watching 1 month,
47:24Speaker 4I know my body reacts really work. Yeah. So, yeah. So like, it's crazy because like hardcore dude, so 1 of things when I was doing the Retta and I added in the carbs was 1 of the reasons I also didn't like it and we'll know this because he knows me well, I am just crazy about my discipline, like, right? I just want to be, and when I started to do the Retta, I would bend on that discipline
47:46Speaker 4because I could do it. And then I started bending on it a little bit. And then I realized that I had bent so far that I was like eating, you know what I mean? Like, I know that might not mean anything to other people, but it does to me. Like, I just, I like to be in the zone of like, that's works well for me, dude. Like, and it's hard to get back there. I've been trying to get back ever since man. Like this morning I was like, I lifted out my house before because we gotta go. 3
48:10Speaker 4my brain was like, eat some carbs, have some toast, some sourdough toast. Like, I didn't fold, but man, did I want to? It was a, it was a bitch though. Even in 1 day,
48:29Speaker 5and, you know, you set set yourself a path and a goal and like, damn. I mean, for me, I have all I haven't really known mentally, like, how far I've let it go, but, like, every decision, not really every decision in my life, but, like, food decisions, you start making 1 bad decision, you're like, doesn't matter. Like, because I already meant that when, you know Comments. And it's just false. And then when you start making the right decisions, holy shit, do you feel more empowered and more energy? It's such a bigger
48:56Speaker 5for food, you know, food wise. It just is, I don't know. It's so uplifting and helpful
49:16Speaker 4Flip. They're all compounded little wins and little losses. That's why I always love the carnival because it
49:22Speaker 4is what you can eat. You can't eat all this. It's very simple. And if you do this, you get ripped. You do. It's that simple.
49:30Speaker 4Eventually for anybody that's thinking about it, like you will get ripped for 1 and 2,
49:35Speaker 4your taste buds will change. And then you do not crave the sugar, but it's definitely for sure. Definitely the sugar calls Oh, it
49:43Speaker 5yes. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Right on, I think I'm reading, has I not even read this yet? Sleep quality. Sleep quality. Hey guys, 42 year old woman who started my pipette journey about 5 weeks ago,
49:56Speaker 5Currently focused on fat loss and body recomp, super active and eat well with a focus on protein, good for you, as well as mitigating symptoms of perimenopause.
50:06Speaker 5Since starting my stack, my sleep quality has been consistently poor despite getting between 7 and 9 hours a night, and I'm hoping you may have some suggestions. My current stack is Reta 2 Migs once a week. BPC 500 micrograms
50:32Speaker 51 Mig each, 5 times a week. I take all of them in the morning except with the Retta, which I take in the evening. Here's an example of excellent
50:40Speaker 5of recent sleep score data from my Garmin watch for context. Duration, 9 hours, 16 minutes. Excellent stress
50:54Speaker 5poor light, 8 hours, 10 minutes for REM sleep, 41 minutes, poor awake, restlessness, 1
51:06Speaker 5Having very vivid dreams. I mean, which usually is kind of a good thing. Dreams nightly that are more often than not negative. They're more often than not negative in nature. I understand the importance of sleep recovery, I can't help but think this quality of sleep is hindering my results. I appreciate you guys.
51:39Speaker 5yeah, like all of these numbers though, having 9 hours of sleep are all really bad, you know, like deep REM sleep, 45 minutes or something like that. Yeah. I was curious how you and I already answered this question the same. Now,
51:51Speaker 5so that all sucks. I have a sleep number bed just recently and like it gives you that sleep score. I'm actually surprised how well my score is. Good and how good my scores.
52:16Speaker 5usually so dreams is like when we we get into REM sleep and the fast, you know, rapid eye movement sleep,
52:27Speaker 5is usually a good thing because that means you're in REM and that's our recovery sleep. Now,
52:34Speaker 5you probably have some psychological things going on in your awake life, right, that like are manifesting in your dreams. And so,
52:42Speaker 5yeah, some like internal worries, which totally can contribute to bad sleep. But why don't you go ahead and tell them, tell us what you have the sleep issues. Well, I do know that I love that we talk about this because
52:53Speaker 4I didn't know how important sleep was. We all hear that until I really 3 started having problems. And then I had problems because of the lack of sleep that, so it's been
53:02Speaker 4a cool experience only from the standpoint of what I've learned studying from it. And it's been really eyeopening and I love when I hear people that are having these same problems because I can kind of at least pass on my knowledge,
53:13Speaker 4but here's something that kind of jumped out at me when you said this is you're tracking all this stuff. This is what it says,
53:19Speaker 4But if you pulled that out, would you think that you had good sleep? Yeah. Because you're sleeping a lot. So like, let's pull that out and stop looking at that. 1 of the things that I don't do anymore is I don't, my phone's by my bed. I don't look at the clock because if it's 3, I'm like, oh, should I go back to sleep or should I, and it's screwed with my head. So I don't turn that sucker over until I know I'm ready to get up. That's helped me. So maybe pull that sleep tracker thing out and you'll have, you'll have 9 to 7 hours or 7 to 9 hours sleep. You'll know that you did well because the answer is how do you feel? Do you feel rested?
53:57Speaker 4If, if what's helped for me, if I didn't if I don't if I'm not full and like, dude, what helped for me for a long time was like
54:05Speaker 4having a little bit of toast, like sourdough toast or like a little bit of oatmeal before I went to bed, that helped me sleep
54:18Speaker 4And make sure you're getting enough calories. You need to be hydrated, make sure you're drinking salt water,
54:26Speaker 4if you want the protocol that's been passed on to me by 1 of our viewers, I wish you would see this again because I've asked numerous times if you'd hit me up on my DMs. It's glycine, it's magnesium,
54:51Speaker 4So maybe that will help you. But yeah, I would pull that tracker out for a week and see if that changes your mindset. Cause that could be just screwing with your head. So I don't look at my phone for a reason.
55:02Speaker 4So maybe troll that. I really think that you probably get better sleep than you think. You're just tracking it from that. So As far as the peptides go, like,
55:19Speaker 5I agree with everything he said though too. Like imagine you didn't have the tracker, like, what would you think?
55:25Speaker 5I bet you did. I bet that's a big problem. Yeah, it could just be mind effing. Who knows? Maybe they think Garmin's not right. Now you're like I feel so rested. No, I don't. No, I don't. Oh, God tired. Right. But,
55:35Speaker 5so, but if this persists and you, let's say you don't feel good. Okay. You don't feel like you're getting restless sleep after 9 hours, that's a lot of sleep. You should have more than 45
55:57Speaker 5but and in the morning, which is you should, don't take any of these things later than 10AM,
56:04Speaker 5But what if you're really sensitive and those are really still like, basically it sounds like if this is true, your nervous system is just not able to calm down again. Okay? That is what's happening.
56:41Speaker 5Same reason why you see the same, like 5 old dudes in the gym playing basketball 3 times a week, they're all still fat.
56:49Speaker 5Like what the hell? These guys run their asses off. Right? Cause they're just, they're just doing, they're doing cardio, which is just increasing their cortisol and
57:09Speaker 5but I would systemically drop them. I would try doing your Retta in the morning too. Agreed. I don't know.
57:14Speaker 5There really is no I mean, there's very few people feel the nausea, and that's the only reason to take it at is to avoid the nausea maybe.
57:21Speaker 5But, like, I don't think you're gonna get it, especially you've already been taking it. So I would try that in the morning, but I would systematically, like, watch see what happens. Like,
57:43Speaker 5Add indeed do some of these small experiments on your own so you know what the problem is so you can figure it out immediately.
57:50Speaker 5Everything natural supplement, he said, do it too. K. But That's that's great for you too. It's not nothing bad. No. It's not. Shit. I don't know how old you or 42 year old woman. You might even wanna add in some tiny little, like, low doses of testosterone.
58:11Speaker 4up, fellas? Thank you for all you guys are doing. The world needed you guys. I'll rad. Thank you. I have an odd question that hopefully you can answer for legal size.
58:25Speaker 4Enjoy the podcast and your guys' conversations. Sorry about that. All right. So enjoy the podcast and you guys'
58:34Speaker 4on some peptides, but they're reluctant on injecting more than 2 times a day for now. Understandable.
58:49Speaker 4For ease of them, I would pre fill all syringes for the whole week, 5 on 2 off. Would the peptide deficiency still be valid? Thanks in advance. I'll answer it because I do this often. Yeah, I do. I think so. Don't know if I was going answer this the same, but, I've done those and,
59:05Speaker 4I think that would be great because you want them to take these and you want to simplify life for your parents.
59:13Speaker 4That's great. I think what you're doing for them, like I I've told my story, my old man would not take peptides until finally he gave in and he's like, that's it.
59:22Speaker 4And now he talks about peptides all the time. So it's kind of how it is, you know, 72 that's old. We're trying to kind of teach old dogs new tricks,
59:31Speaker 4but when they start feeling great, they're going to want to take more. It's kind of how it goes. But, my, my opinion is absolutely you can mix those and no, I don't think it's going to mess up the efficiency,
59:43Speaker 4for a week. I think it's great. I think you're simplifying it and you're helping them simplify their life.
1:00:15Speaker 5You might have to just mess this up 1 time and go, okay, I can't do that. The for an older person, that the the GHK-
1:00:23Speaker 5in the CLO might be really hard for them to take because of the sting. Yeah. You know? But you totally can mix no sting in there with the CLO and Tesamorelin.
1:00:33Speaker 5Right? That you can mix them same with the same carriers. In fact, you don't even need to. You can mix the Tesamorelin back to your static water. You can mix your clo with no sting.
1:01:00Speaker 5So I would do that to reduce the sting for the clo. You only know if you try it and they, and they, and it turns cloudy together.
1:01:14Speaker 5and Clo, instead of blue. You would know it. You would know it. You could still see it. You can still see it turn to cloud. I would say take out the Tesa and do HGH for your parents are getting old. I think HGH is gonna do way better than the Tesla for 72 year olds. That is true. And that 1 then you really don't wanna mix that with anything because it will turn cloudy.
1:01:33Speaker 5I there's no problem. There's no competing pathway issue, so there's no efficacy issue. The only competing thing would be even if it just
1:01:47Speaker 5and technically fast. That's what I'm done. And go, alright, I can't do that anymore. Okay. But did yeah, none of those
1:01:57Speaker 5taking 5 syringes and injecting them all 1 x 1 right into you, and therefore there's no difference in just filling the syringe up. Your parents will not like it. All the time. And your parents won't like you other than that. It's not true. I think it's alright.
1:02:09Speaker 5Best friend was involved in a motorcycle accident a couple of years ago, which resulted in a lot of damage to his ankle. I heard this 1. Several surgeries later, some rods, etcetera. He's got a lot of scar tissue, constant swelling, and pain. Will BPC-2B
1:02:21Speaker 5help at all with injury that old? Did we answer this before? Like in past episodes? I think it's kind similar. I guarantee we have, but
1:02:29Speaker 4you want to go or I'll go? I think that it will help. Yes, absolutely. It will help and do it. Will help reduce the swelling, which causes pain. It's very worse. It's not going to hurt. So yeah. So he's not doing so well. Like, and how much do a lot. Yep.
1:02:47Speaker 5that are chronic, that have stopped really trying to heal themselves. You're at an injury. It's so like nagging your body's just like, oh, screw it. I'm living like this. Yeah. Right? Sure. TB is the 1 thing that will actually kind of, like, wake that stuff up. Yep. Sending more regrowth
1:03:12Speaker 5this is a good 1. I found myself in the ER with anaphylactic reaction, about 5 minutes away from not breathing.
1:03:53Speaker 4cause what, like what I would ask you is how long after you took it did that happen?
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1:05:36Speaker 4hour makes me kind of question that and it makes it a lot more gray. Did you change your diet that day? You know?
1:05:46Speaker 4So is there any other changes? You know, I don't think that you're going to ever fully know. There's definitely a big possibility. It could be the Tesa, but the hour long dude,
1:05:57Speaker 4definitely. And let's just say it as a Tesa. Should you do Tesa from there? No. If it is, no. Yeah. So, you know, Joe Brown was just on the podcast. He'd get in front of ours and, that same thing happened to him. He'd take Tesa for, he'd been taking it for a long time, loved it. And then almost overnight, it just stopped working. He had histamine response and he tried it again and it was even worse, which usually happens.
1:06:20Speaker 4Went to the ER, so it's kind of a big deal for dumb and say, could try it again and see what happens if it wasn't this bad.
1:06:27Speaker 4But that hour, dude, I don't know. That throws me off. I don't know if a histamine is like a meal. So also Tesamorelin
1:06:45Speaker 5It's like CJC is way more likely. I agree. So JD's have said this before, like his wife did CJC 1 time
1:06:51Speaker 5whack and goes, walked into his room and said, I don't feel very good. What's wrong? And he's like, what in the hell is wrong with you? Like her lips were all swell up. She was red swelling like that. And that was her very 1st time using it. So this stuff does happen, but dude, 1st of all, I guess we're really happy you're alive and like made it. And that was as soon as like you had a serious,
1:07:13Speaker 5to something, but it is odd. An hour usually doesn't take until maybe- Check out the food. Did you take any What
1:07:20Speaker 5else did you Anything in that day that you took that's outside of the norm was I would say- Anything else that you took, this is not what you told us, right? And not even like medication, anything, food, something unique. Do you go hiking? I don't know. Do you like
1:07:44Speaker 5want It's to try the scary test though, run I on saw my wife like that dude, it was gnarly.
1:07:51Speaker 4would like I've said it before, I would not have believed it. If she tried to explain it to me if I wasn't there, I would not have believed what I saw. And I did research right after because I was like, holy shit.
1:08:02Speaker 4throat starts to feel like it's closing up, you go to the hospital. Yeah. Because that's not. Yeah, the airway is not something to So mess
1:08:09Speaker 4do it. There's no coming back. I would say my opinion, you can give me yours. I wouldn't probably do the test since you went to the ER. I don't, I don't, I am super 50 50 if it was a Tesla because of the hour. Yeah.
1:08:21Speaker 5And it's just not likely an hour. And I don't know how long you've been doing these things, but like, have you taken any of these other ones before?
1:08:29Speaker 5Right? Maybe it's maybe allergic to I mean, people can just be randomly allergic. People can be allergic to sunlight. So you can someone can be allergic to homophene, but if you're allergic to it, it would have hit you the 1st time you took it. So what's the 1st any of these things was it for the 1st time?
1:08:50Speaker 5can I would I mean, dude, that's honestly, that's concerning? It's scary. You can totally go to like an allergist
1:08:59Speaker 5and they go, alright. What are you allergic to? And then they see it. They go, alright. What did you react to? It's probably worth it, dude, man. Be completely honest with them about what you took, what you're taking.
1:09:12Speaker 5I'm gonna do a little research, dude, because, like, you you don't wanna be just scared of some things that's your whole life and and you figure out that it's because you ate some a peanut butter sandwich
1:09:21Speaker 4or something, you know, at the same time and that's the actual culprit. Now you just don't take anything out, any peptides.
1:09:29Speaker 4Getting a real answer. All right. Yeah. All right. You'll fellas, new follower here. I'm 34 years old and have been dealing with chronic coughs since 2013.
1:09:37Speaker 4The doctor's been dicking me around. For example, I never had any reflux symptoms and scope came back clear, but they still put me on a PPI,
1:11:33Speaker 4I've taken in the past a lot of them, and I think that has been the culprit for myself.
1:11:44Speaker 4know, there's a lot of people listen to this podcast and have gone to him since. He's, I want him to give a really bird's eye view of what he's seen in the stool tests and in the blood work, because he's done a lot lately. And
1:11:55Speaker 4I would like him to kind of break that down on what he's seeing. And he's just seeing a lot of gut problems, man. He's my wife. I think 0.5 our office is seeing him.
1:12:06Speaker 4you know? So try that protocol and I'd get off the antibiotics, dude. The antibiotics suck. They do nothing. Yep. If you're dying, get on antibiotics. Other than that, don't take them. Yeah, I 2nd that. If you wanna message in and like ask us,
1:12:22Speaker 5please do. Cool. We got 2 more. Alright. Recently started listening to your podcast and I love the info. Super informative. Recently started Reta about 3 weeks ago. Context, I'm 32 of 3 kids and a year postpartum from my 3rd.
1:12:51Speaker 5I weight train 3 to 4 times a week consistently. Also getting into running 1 or 2 days a week for heart health because I'm a cardiology APRN.
1:13:08Speaker 5belly fat. Have heard mixed reviews on Tesa for women thoughts and doses to start out. Oh yeah.
1:13:26Speaker 5director being for 3 50 pounds and telling everybody how to be healthy. Right? Like,
1:13:32Speaker 4I was doing the fitness stuff, I, the people would say, my doctor said this. I said, let me ask you This is a real question. Is your doctor in shape? No.
1:14:11Speaker 510 mgs to 3 mgs of Ipah, is it maybe a good good point for you starting I'd start off. So like, look,
1:14:22Speaker 5growth hormones increase too high levels, go too high, too fast, people start to retain water, especially women.
1:14:47Speaker 5And you may end, depends on where you end. I don't know. That's up to you, but I'd be looking to end, be a sweet spot somewhere between 1 mill 0.5 of a milligram and 1 mg of Tesamorelin daily.
1:15:04Speaker 5But yeah, do it and good for you. I guarantee with the amount of activity you do and your knowledge, that's going to kick ass and work really well. 0 Yeah. I'm gonna answer a little bit differently.
1:15:14Speaker 4I think that the key here is what you said right in the beginning was recently started Retta about 3 weeks ago. I would say give it some time, man. Like you didn't gain any of all this weight at 1st. Why don't you give the Retta some time to kind of kick into 5th gear? I think that the Testa is great. I think you should add it, but maybe wait a little bit because of that. And, then I would add on some AOD on top of the Tesa when you do do it. But let the Retatrut, like, let the Retatrut you're not you're not even in 2nd gear yet, man. You've done it for 3 weeks. Well, also you just increased to 1 mg of Retatrutide weekly. And that's nothing. That's like the what's our clinical start dose? 2 mesh or 2.5? And like you're not, you just increased to 0.5 of the starting dose. Right.
1:15:53Speaker 4So if you do that for like, let's try like 2 months and kind of maybe go up a little bit and Reta is going to burn that fat off.
1:15:59Speaker 4I mean, cause the objective is when we want to feel great and we love peptides, duh,
1:16:12Speaker 4So like you are 32, if you were like 45, it might be a different answer, but I think you give the rut to do what it do. And maybe increase the dose a little bit. Yeah. That's it. Then
1:16:23Speaker 4add that stuff in because you're gonna, you're gonna see results. You're gonna want to add in more peptides and maybe you don't need to test it. Maybe you try some SS-31or
1:16:31Speaker 4So anyways, that was my answer. Went a little bit different. That was very good. Let's Last 1, meant to me. Yeah. All right. So I'm take this home because we gotta get on a plane.
1:16:49Speaker 4not as lean as I would like, especially around my stomach and arms and legs. I find food noise and overeating,
1:17:01Speaker 4family meals, dinners out, etcetera. I'm going to start Retta, but I'm not sure on the dosage as,
1:17:07Speaker 4and also long term plan. I don't want to be on it forever. And I'm scared about weaning off gaining all the weight back. I don't want to lose a lot of weight as my frame is still relatively small. I want to keep my muscle and I don't want to know. I don't want people
1:17:25Speaker 4I just want to lean out a little bit to be more confident in my clothes at the gym. Thanks so much for your podcast. It's awesome.
1:17:45Speaker 4If you have to hide anything, I don't think you should do it. You seem a little stressed about it, so give this some time. Maybe you
1:17:51Speaker 4can accomplish your goal by just being old school and not having to take anything. The
1:18:06Speaker 4And that's why I was just telling you about a couple of questions back, when I'm off my discipline, I don't like it. I like to be focused and my best version and discipline is that key to it.
1:18:16Speaker 4So you can achieve it. But again, I think if you have to hide it, I don't think you should take it because, you know, when we have people all the time, don't tell anybody I want testosterone,
1:18:30Speaker 4don't hide anything, man. That's, that's a form of lying and that's, I just don't like that. So I hope that that doesn't offend you because I'm just being real with you.
1:18:38Speaker 4Because you seem a little, little timid about it. I would give it some time, old school 1st. Retta will always be here. And if you're ready to tell people you're on Retta, then maybe take the Beta. We'll tell you the dosage then.
1:18:50Speaker 5yes, I 2nd everything there. Here's the thing, like, honestly, the the worry about, oh, it'll stop and all the weight comes gaining back is like What if? What if? What if? If you're
1:19:02Speaker 5if you do it completely ass backwards wrong, that will happen, but, like, that's manageable. Yeah. I can tell you that it's totally manageable. It's like people doing, don't know, doing steroids, like, oh, steroids, I can do. Yeah. But if you do testosterone or testosterone, like, the right way and not just be a complete dumbass about it, like, you can do it safely. Yes. So same thing with Retta, like, if you so choose,
1:19:24Speaker 5you can just be very you can be smart on how you get off of it and it will not come all the way. It won't come rushing back. The brilliance of Retta is it's not you can you can you keep your appetite, you keep your muscle, you keep eating.
1:19:43Speaker 5Start ultra low. And when it's time to wean off, literally wean off, know, just stop.
1:19:49Speaker 5And if you'd never even go really high, then that weight gain, it can Like the Red is like is the training wheels. It is not the bicycle, right? The bicycle
1:20:03Speaker 5It's all the real things that we always talk about. That's it. Reddit is just the little training wheel thing. Gotta ease that along and to get you over some humps and get you there and use it as such.
1:20:18Speaker 4fuck it, tell people. Mean, own it. Don't hide it and own it. Everyone's on Retta. I know. Anyway, the people you're probably hiding it from or hiding it from you. Don't
1:20:27Speaker 4Don't tell Don't tell her. There's the 1 person that's admitting it. They're like, yep, he's, everybody's on it.
1:20:33Speaker 5Like, look, I actually looked at the stat the other day we're talking about. So 24% of the population in West Virginia is on a GLP-one. That's including children?
1:20:43Speaker 5I mean, children aren't on it, but that that that that statistic. Oh, that's in that statistic. They're
1:20:48Speaker 5included in the 20 so like, right. Wow. So if we look at that, you know, I don't know what the population of children is, but maybe 30%
1:20:59Speaker 5that 25% now probably goes to 50% of everybody. And now it's West Virginia. We talked about this as a follow-up to, I think, you know, I said that
1:21:19Speaker 5compounding like, and fuck. If you got some religious thing, I don't know. You know, we don't know you, but like,
1:21:26Speaker 5you're right. I guarantee you that you're lying to people and they're lying back to you. Yeah.
1:21:31Speaker 5Tell somebody that balls be like, you know just need some honest friends. I'm on the honest too. And everybody's like, I am too. It's the most amazing thing. And then everybody enlightens and everything gets better and now everybody's happier. Tiffany's on Retatrut honey.
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