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1:08Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way, Mr. William T Haas, like always. What's up? What's up, man? We have
1:21Speaker 2We have always a busy day. I was thinking this morning as I was kind of getting ready, I was like, dude, I could literally work for 24 hours students. I'd still be busy. Oh yeah. I'm just like, dude, I can work for a week straight and still never catch up. Seriously crazy like that.
1:36Speaker 2we will and I are gonna, we're gonna gonna bust out this podcast. We've got the Q and A about to, we're about to do here. Then, he and I are flying out of town for a few days to,
1:45Speaker 2go meet with some of our suppliers for our business and check out their operation, make sure that we, for our business, do the top quality products.
1:55Speaker 2right. We practice what we preach. Yep. We tell you guys to do that, so we do the same. True that. It'll be, so cool. Yes. It'll be enlightening, but but,
2:05Speaker 3yeah, we get to fly across the country, not out of the country. Yep. Folks. Sumo. Inside of the country, but far away from us.
2:21Speaker 2took Mr. Peter Magic on his offer. He seems actually pretty stoked. Mean, dealing with talking
2:27Speaker 2with him on email. It seems like he's seems pretty stoked about it. That will be even cooler.
2:33Speaker 2We were just sitting before we started recording about a 15 hour flight. Neither of us have done it. I've never done it. So
2:40Speaker 2I was telling Will that like my wife was trying to get me to bring her and the boys, which I wish I could. But
3:04Speaker 3Maybe like a big ball or something. Put them in the bubble. Put them in. Yeah. And you just- Let them scream. Lock it up and just go ahead. Put that screamer in the bubble.
3:14Speaker 3Mason Mason would be in the bubble. The stirrup tub. Put him the bubble. Put him in the bubble. It's a good idea. I've often thought when I have a kid, like, these soundproofing things that we have here just make a closet. Now, guys, I'm not serious about this,
3:26Speaker 3but like soundproof the closet for kids being crazy. And like, it also where they can't hurt and it's all padded. Just
3:33Speaker 3shut up and lock you in there and you can't now talk to us and nobody can hear you and you can't hurt yourself. I,
3:41Speaker 2when my sons are crying, like for no reason, like if they hurt themselves, listen, cry. Like
3:46Speaker 2everybody knows my stance. I'm crying and I'm this dad and I'm trying to mold them into men. Like, I go, listen, this is the no crying section. 1 You are allowed to cry if you feel like you need to cry. And that's your room. You go in there, we're going to shut the door. You cry it out and they usually stop crying. That's like,
4:14Speaker 3Speaking of we, I went to the little league night day at Angel Stadium on Sunday. So we got there at 8AM to tailgate for 1PM game.
4:26Speaker 3kids had fun, but it's funny. So we sat down in the stadium. 1st of all, we're in, like, the widening sun.
4:36Speaker 3you know, you're not happy. You can, there's plenty of seats up here in the shade. Feel free to ask, tell, are you with everybody? Just tell everybody that y'all can be like, thank you. Oh, dude. Because I'm leaving in 5 minutes. But- Yeah. They had, she goes, Oh yeah, also, can you tell the kids, like, they gotta keep their shirts on? I was like, yeah, yeah.
4:53Speaker 3But she goes, so we've had just some kids, it's been a thing now. They just stay in kids, take their shirts off and like
5:03Speaker 3but she's like, don't have them do that, but we have a section for the no shirted kids over there
5:10Speaker 3across the stadium, literally. And the coach took river and like 2 other kids. He's like, I'm going to take them to the no shirt section.
5:17Speaker 3That's the section where the kids will be tatted soon up there. Yeah, exactly. Yes. So those kids up in the nosebleeds, all the nether shirts on, just running off, being crazy. Oh man, that's funny. It's kinda funny.
5:33Speaker 3No, but I looked for Dave Singh and I couldn't find him because I didn't, I guess I didn't look hard enough. But we have a good friend who just- Oh, is he working? Yeah, cool. He got approved.
5:51Speaker 3He had, he's been doing the OC Fair, so he's got a little trailer and he's set up so for all all the events at
6:02Speaker 3And it did and it did it. And he passed the tryout. They did say 1 of his best things are cookies. As you know, he's got these like 0.5 pound cookies. But
6:12Speaker 3Angel Stadium basically said, thanks. You did great. You're in. You can't sell cookies. We got some We already got a cookie guy. Like, you can't be the cookie guy. He's like, oh, well, whatever. But basically, what
6:25Speaker 3you have to be there for every event that takes place in Angel Stadium. Brutal. So you can't just be like, cool, you can come to the games that you want to come to, right? No calling it sick. If you use no calling it sick. So he
6:36Speaker 3was there, I'm sure, and any other event that's in Angel Stadium, but I was, you know, toting around a bunch of kids and- I didn't have time. Coffee wasn't your mind. I got a funny, I got a cool story about Dave
6:47Speaker 2he was a kick pocketing coach. That's what Dave did. And I used to work out with Dave Saturdays.
6:51Speaker 2We'd meet up and we'd, I met him at the gym and his dad was sober and like, we just hit it off. Love Dave, just kindest guy in the world. He's like my brother. I freaking loved him from my way.
7:05Speaker 2was going through a transition from not going to do that anymore, he didn't know what he was going to do. And I was just, the mortgage industry had dried up and we were both in that limbo stage. What are we going do? Remember we had sat down with Brett. We were, we were talking through all that stuff because we were really like digging into and we both started our businesses right at the same time. Did the fitness stuff. He did the coffee thing and we were talking about this the other day and like where we're both at now. We were like, both all like nervous. Like what are we going to do? You know? Now like, but the point of that is
7:33Speaker 2in between though is hard ass work, dude. We both pay, but people see this part. They're like, you must be nice and be lucky. Want this part too? Me to share mere money? Here's the must be nice part that you gotta talk about too because the 16 hour days and no sleep. No doubt. You know mean? The stress at all times. Yeah. That's a cool story. So now he's, he's He's doing well. He's on his way to doing well. He's just gotta clean up his, like, business like, the books and stuff because he's Hire somebody. Yeah.
8:05Speaker 3love him. Another friend, I'm wearing his shirt. He says eat, pray left. And so our other friend just started this company.
8:29Speaker 3They say father figure. And he just became a dad. And he just became a dad and he's always wanted to for long time. They've been trying to be for a long time. They've given up, they gave up at 1 point. Yeah. What sucks?
8:42Speaker 3and it happened. But so I'm here repping his clothes and I, JD doesn't like them, but I kind of liked these big shirts. I actually am very impressed with- I'd cut the sleeves-
8:57Speaker 2So, yeah, cool. Everybody go check this out. I think, I don't even know what the- We'll put it down at the Yeah, we can put it down. So same by you. And we also want to tell everybody for school, join school. It's people are loving it. We're continuing to put amazing stuff on there.
9:21Speaker 2is ready to drop. And there'll be a link below where you can sign up for that. And there's gonna be a lot of information on that. So a lot of stuff brewing,
9:33Speaker 2at the pace that we can provide them. We're still going to do the meetup because we get asked literally daily. Pedro was just talking about people at the gym. When is it? It's like, we're doing it. Yeah, so that's coming. We're
9:46Speaker 2traveling a lot in the next month. That's why we moved it from the 27th. We thought it was a wise decision to not just throw it together, but that's coming to you. So join school newsletter.
10:04Speaker 3End of the summer, true war meetup. We are inviting people in. Are you allowed to say that by now for like on the 27th?
10:13Speaker 2Okay. We're going to, we're going do this weekend. Sure. We're going to do, well, this is going to drop on Thursday. It's perfect. Okay, cool. So we're going to do this weekend.
10:20Speaker 2The 27th. For local. Well, no, it's gonna be this weekend for Father's Day. So for Friday, we're gonna have a locals
10:34Speaker 3Any, like, we have some free, some swag do we give out and like, to say hi and, 3 you know, nothing- Meet the locals, It's
10:42Speaker 2not like a big planned event or anything folks. Yeah. But if you like what we do and you're
10:50Speaker 2see the team get some stuff. We are trying to cultivate that type of people. Want to like
11:01Speaker 2school stuff. We pride ourselves in trying to say we're from the old school shaking someone's hand and it's my opinion. And it's just as good as Knowing signature.
11:11Speaker 3right? Like supporting local businesses. This small business is the lifeblood of this country by the way.
11:27Speaker 3he sent us, he gave us a shirt and a couple of hats. And then I went and bought a couple more shirts.
11:33Speaker 3Didn't ask for a discount. Didn't ask for a discount. No. I haven't even told him yet that I bought them. I've
11:39Speaker 2seen people that order from us that I know. And I'm like that dude. And then I text them and say, here's a discount code because bro, that's cool. Like, you know, I mean, not to knock people that ask for a discount, but people ask for a discount, but like the people that just do it because they want to support. Yeah. That is very cool. That is style. That's, that is great. It's good stuff. Well, cool. Let's kick us off. We've got the Q and A and then we are hitting a plane. Yes. Let's do it. Question 1. What's up fellas? Thank you for all you guys are doing. The world needed you guys.
12:07Speaker 3I have an odd question that hopefully you can answer. For the legal side of peptide world, I know a few police officers in hot water with their agencies over peptides
12:31Speaker 3Lap it low. Thank you again. Can't wait for the next peptide of the week. Alright. That's a unique 1. That's a first- It's a unique question. It's a good question. So 1st of all,
12:42Speaker 3peptides operate in definitely a gray space that's kind of tightening pretty fast. But,
12:50Speaker 3just realize if you're a police officer, right, you also despite what things are legal and not legal, you probably have an elevated code of conduct
12:59Speaker 3that you need to look into that we can't tell that I have no idea what that is. Yeah. But usually, like, just because something's legal doesn't necessarily mean it's okay for a police officer to do. So I would watch yourself. I think that,
13:23Speaker 3as a police officer. So just watch yours breed your own Yeah. Con maybe like I did. I don't know. Seriously,
13:30Speaker 3it's not worth none of this stuff it's not worth losing your badge or career over. That's for damn sure. Now we know intimately a company that
13:49Speaker 3Chip, getting our our public servants who need their bodies to recover, right, And to work better, all the support they can possibly get plus putting some extra money in their pocket, plus giving them all discounts. Like, I think that's awesome, but I'm sure there's some lawyers, some asshole out there that
14:15Speaker 3Now they need to make sure, you know, I'm sure they know the rules and they're very out and open. They're not doing this.
14:20Speaker 3It's not like, Hey dude, Ruth is like toolbox here. Want to buy some peptides? Like this is a business that they have reps and firehouses.
14:38Speaker 3the ones that are not FDA approved, okay, all the peptides so the FDA approved ones are
15:07Speaker 3like, cannot be sold without a prescription. Okay? All the other ones that are not FDA approved can be sold, but they cannot be sold
15:16Speaker 3for human consumption. They need to be like research use only. So whoever's selling it, you cannot
15:21Speaker 3elude to, hey, you should buy this because you're going to use it or how to use it, etcetera. You're selling it and saying, hey, this is for you to do some home research and
15:37Speaker 3That's the but that doesn't really apply or affect this police officer. I think you need to check out what your own codes are, especially selling it. Yeah.
15:45Speaker 3There's a difference there. Like Winstraw, for example, anabolic steroid, totally okay to possess and take
16:14Speaker 2I would think that there's a big difference of, are they selling the peptides? Are they taking the peptides now? I think it really boils down to the department policy. I don't know if there's,
16:23Speaker 2I would imagine the police departments have the same policies, but probably not. Don't think I bet now. So like we had a gal that a police officer that came on 1 of my other podcasts and she had to get clearance and clearance and clearance, which was intelligent on her behalf.
16:39Speaker 2at 1 point to be pretty, come on dude, but like, it's her job. Right? And so I totally got it. And then they cleared her. Right. But if
16:48Speaker 2she didn't get cleared and she's on, you know, a podcast talking about whatever pep tabs and stuff, you know, she can get in trouble. Right. I think it's for sure a lot of, especially as far as the use goes, it's like a don't ask, don't tell. Right? Like
17:06Speaker 3if you're taking them just like- You find a needle though, you're a locker, works. Right. Don't do that because you cannot tell them. I mean, anyway, I won't even Yeah.
17:15Speaker 2Are great, man. Yeah. We all know what they're for, but you can't sell them for human consumption. They have to be for research.
17:21Speaker 2They sell them as research, what you do with the research, it's up to you. You're an adult, act like it. That's it. Research.
17:32Speaker 3legally. I don't know. And be careful what you are selling to dude. Like just cause you can,
17:36Speaker 3you know, found some way to get something really cheap from China, like, that's not good enough to sell.
17:52Speaker 2Good. You got that. Number 2. Hey, JD and Will. I've been seeing discussion lately around Tesamorelin
18:00Speaker 2mainly because gastric emptying is slowed in the typical 3 to 4 hour fasting window before bed can be tough to manage consistently.
18:23Speaker 2I noticed the recommended tested dosing sounded quite a bit lower than the common 2 mgs protocol.
18:35Speaker 2Just trying to understand the approach is actually best from both an effective and practicality
18:45Speaker 2He's obviously thought through that. He's probably done some research, but that's a great question. And I think I ought to correct you that,
18:52Speaker 3okay, so I just, I just, we're gonna post something to school that's very similar and kind of is my,
18:58Speaker 3I've done a bunch of research on this and a well thought out answer to this and encompassing some other things, but basically on Tesa and Reta, which is a freaking awesome combination.
19:09Speaker 3But the dosing times do matter. And I will tell you that I might just say something that kind of contradicts
19:49Speaker 3And because that will the medication they're taking, it will freeze and it ultimately can be fatal. So
20:04Speaker 3So they're throwing everything at it. Who cares about the other side effects that 2 mg of Tesamorelin are going to produce?
20:14Speaker 3I don't care if they look bad or bloated or blah, blah, blah, right? But they are going to fix this problem. That 2 mg that you've heard, we've never said it. I
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21:44Speaker 3On a whole bunch of insulin occurring, your blood full of insulin at the same time taking Tesamorelin,
22:07Speaker 3That does is part of it is it tells your body, hey, there's a bunch of sugar and we just ate a big meal, which it really didn't. And our bodies then produces pushes a whole bunch of insulin out. Okay? So when we're taking Retta, your body's you're pushing a bunch of insulin into your body. Yeah. So,
22:29Speaker 3So the goal here is to separate those as much as possible. Now, unfortunately, GLP-one is a 5 day activated, right, thing. Like, so there's no fully getting away from the Retta, but
22:44Speaker 3even at all equal to the plus of the synergy of putting them together. So here's the quick easy recommendation is we have always said take Tesamorelin at night. Okay? Why? That is what it's FDA approved to take at night. Why? Because that links up to your circadian rhythm of when our biggest natural growth hormone pulse is at night and we're trying to like boost that up. So we've said, take it at night,
23:16Speaker 3Even if you don't eat 2 hours before, you're still got a little bit of insulin going down. Right? It is better to take Tesamorelin
23:29Speaker 3That's more important than the circadian rhythm joining up and take Retta at nighttime. So the quick answer, the bottom line, Reta at night,
23:42Speaker 3Right? But if you didn't take them, you want to separate them as much as possible. Right?
23:50Speaker 3but on a fasted state on the Tesamorelin. Yeah. Don't eat either another hour after you take it. So 8 hour fast, because you're sleeping, take your dose of Tesa, don't eat for another hour, but also at that Reta 3 times a week at night, I'd go 2 hours before you eat that. Cause that's also heavily influenced by
24:10Speaker 3Hours ish. And then hour on the after. And it's not easy at night. No, no. We all get hungry at night. Plus trying to go to sleep
24:28Speaker 2Well, if you had asked this like 6 months ago, it would have been a different answer because the
24:33Speaker 2peptides are obviously being more studied more and you have so many people taking them. You have so many,
24:41Speaker 2much feedback. It's just, it's changing. It's evolving. It's great. Much research. Gosh, if you looked at some of the 1st podcasts that we did, we've changed from it because we have worked with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people since then. And
24:52Speaker 2again, we've said it a 100 times how something reads isn't exactly how it's going to actually play out in the human body 3 because that's just, we're science projects.
25:00Speaker 2Yeah, that I think that you nailed it. I wouldn't have answered that that way either. But as we've learned more now, if you pull out Retta,
25:37Speaker 3I always like taking Retta because at night everybody, by the way, like some people get nauseous from it still, right? Semaglutide, super, a lot of nausea, definitely take it right before you go to bed. The worst nausea you're, you sleep through same thing, which is appetite.
25:52Speaker 3I would, I still have, you know, just kind of kept with that and said, take Retta at night because if there happens to be any nausea, you'll sleep it off. No problem. And I guess I would say, so then definitely I would, let's try not to take the test at night. Also it's those of you who've taken it. Like it's still going to work. Yeah. Just
26:11Speaker 3you're going to amplify it a little bit more by taking it in morning. But if you pull Retta completely, I don't know, man. I think that this is like- Still going, you're, you're, so you still might just be the better idea to take it in the morning. Interesting.
26:24Speaker 3I don't know. Try both. It's try both. Like, here's the like, we're still studying. Like, scientists seems to be
26:30Speaker 2not exactly sure of what is- Well, yeah, you have to, like, also, like, I think the best thing is how do you feel? That's how do you feel? Because that, I think like if some, if a man says, you need to take this much testosterone and you needed to take this much of this, that's like bro science, right? And that's going give you a beacon. But like, how do you feel? Like if you feel great, then
26:51Speaker 2maybe you shouldn't touch it. You know what mean? If you take the test at night and then you switch it, you do it for like maybe like 3 weeks each and switch it. How do you feel? Try that. Like that's, that's, that's the research
27:03Speaker 2that's the stuff that I could tell you with my own experience with peptides, dude, it's radically changed
27:10Speaker 2with my own experience where I'm not even gonna take peptides at night. I've had so much sleeping problems and I don't, I'm doing so good and sleeping now that I'm not even gonna mess with So like I take all my peptides in the morning and I don't take any at night. It's been great for me. I'm saying you're me, but like that,
27:26Speaker 2don't want to take people when they sometimes when people take a read out, they don't sleep that well. Just, it is what it is. So taking it at night could mess that up. But anyways, you have to just try. It
27:44Speaker 2but once again, got to just try them both. See how you feel, baby. But your answer is now Tessa morning.
27:54Speaker 2So I got- He's gonna say Tesla Ipi though. Am going say Tesa. I know. He's a Tesa Ipamorelin. Just
28:06Speaker 3Maximize it. If Ipamorelin's gonna just synergistically make it work that much better, what-
28:24Speaker 3But there's also blends like a like a 5 mg, 5 mg, 10 mg, 3 mg, which I think is a good 10 mg, 3 mg, I think is a good ratio. That's basically like 3 parts,
28:44Speaker 3secretion can add can end up in a little bit too much water retention and especially for women because they're sensitive to everything and like a 3 to 1 ratio
28:59Speaker 3Yeah. And Paul, I don't think ever said 2 mg of tests. I don't think we, we've never said 2 mg of Tesamore. I don't remember, man. We have done a lot of podcasts,
29:09Speaker 3But that is what the clinical team says. I We can roll, baby. Okay. I've been contemplating
29:18Speaker 3Wondering, 1, is this a good 1 to start with? 2, if so, what other supplements like vitamins, collagen do you recommend pairing with it?
29:26Speaker 3If Cloak isn't the 1 to use before a surgery like this, what would you suggest in achieving optimal healing? You know where that's going? Yeah.
29:35Speaker 2ahead. Yeah, give me what you're saying. Well, I think we're going to answer the same, but let's see.
29:43Speaker 2I'm thinking you're going with the Clo because of the KPV because that's obviously great too. Like the reason I'm going say start with the Wolverine is just because you can take a shit ton out of it as you should.
29:55Speaker 2countless times that, my surgery, I took massive, massive, massive doses of the Wolverine. And I have no doubt in my mind that it expedited my healing,
30:20Speaker 2Because of that, you can take a ton. How much did you take? I don't know. How much can you afford? Like literally before
30:26Speaker 2the surgery, like start dosing about 3 weeks at least. And then when you have that surgery, just blast it. I mean, I was taking huge doses where even I was like, are you sure bro? And
30:42Speaker 2Just, I would personally separate it from that because you can't control that mountain and Clo. So a lot of Wolverine
30:48Speaker 2add in the GHK-3s, which is going to be great for the collagen production. Do the key KPV 2 for gut, but that's how I'm going to answer that for sure. I would agree. So here's in a more practical sense, like the GHK-two
31:05Speaker 3have your body create more collagen right there on the skin layer. So it's actually showing that to heal skin wounds faster. And what you are trying to do is not have scars on your abdominal surgery. Right? And like, so absolutely
31:32Speaker 3what it is. You have to be in that ratio. Okay? We don't, I wouldn't really take more than, you know, 3.5
32:14Speaker 3If you can afford more, go ahead, but like more realistically, right? 2 Migs to 5 mg, at least for the 1st month after and put it right there. Hell SNAP-eight might not be even be after it is. And guys, we're talking, do not inject this stuff into an open wound, right? Like the goal is to put that like a triangle kind of around where the surgery is. So we're trying to really just saturate from all angles
32:36Speaker 3with all of this, you know, stem cell healing properties and collagen absorption and signaling of BPC and TB-five 100 all around there. SNAP-eight
33:15Speaker 3Diet. You can also add Tessa Ipamorelin. Okay. What are those doing? Those increasing growth hormone signaling, right? That's your body growing and healing faster. So that'll
33:39Speaker 2You'll have good luck. Wolverine. That's why we choose it as our favorite, but just because it's a, you can use a ton of it as you should. And this is universal.
33:50Speaker 2All right. Hi all. Hello from Scotland. Glad I found the group of your amazing podcasts. Thinking of doing carnivore, but heard it doesn't go well on Reta due to the high fat content.
34:08Speaker 2and going to start 2 IUs of GH shortly. Thank you for the information you have you give and sharing your experience of using peptides.
34:38Speaker 3There's Americans from some point of view, but we all suck every conquering. Dude, I saw that movie like And
34:47Speaker 2Still, I will still watch that. When you're done, you're just like, when he kills his bride, just did, you will die.
35:08Speaker 2something about that gene, bro. Like it's, that's for sure. I agree. Yeah, I'm a carnivore. I can tell you I've done Retta and I
35:24Speaker 2which is the best I can give you because it's my experience. I was on a carnivore for 5 years
35:54Speaker 2You think that you'll get a little bit of benefit more from it if you do add a little bit of carbs in. Now,
36:06Speaker 2Are you trying to lose weight? You're trying to get buff. Are you, that plays a huge role in it. You know, I was, I was, you know, super lean and in shape
36:14Speaker 2so I could get away with carbs. You know, I love the carnival lifestyle. And since I've started, I've ping pong back and forth because once you haven't had cars for 5 years and you have them, damn, they're good.
36:34Speaker 2Should you? I really think from a standpoint of the objective is going to answer that better. Yes, you can get away with carnivore
36:43Speaker 2and doing some carbs, even maybe try what I'm doing right now is carbs before you lift carbs after, keep it real low.
36:50Speaker 2Because you're, you're, you're not even going to notice body wise that you're doing those carbs. It's gonna, you're gonna do well with them. But if you want to stay strict carnivore, yes, you can.
37:01Speaker 3Absolutely. You totally can. It's a good thing. In fact, it will make enhance everything now.
37:13Speaker 3a different story. But like, if you're just if you're trying to take Retta and do carnivore because you wanna look good and lose weight, like,
37:20Speaker 3don't do the full carnivore. You can have some carbs. Yeah. It you're Especially on Retta. Like,
37:26Speaker 3so low carnivore is gonna be as low as, like, it's gonna increase your insulin sensitivity.
37:36Speaker 3taking Retta is actually gonna boost pump more insulin in you, which is gonna work even better,
37:49Speaker 3can eat a little bit of carbs because the Retta would just take turns. You already notice it. It will just absorb it and the insulin will kill it off and it'll take some IGF-one too, like before you lift and like, bro, if you're eating a good amount of protein, that just sucks all these nutrients that you're getting right in the right places. I
38:11Speaker 3having a low, having a high protein and high fat diet can slow digestion a little K? That's why you feel a bit fuller longer from fat. K? That's a good thing. Right? It can also reduce your appetite. So it can further
38:40Speaker 2Which is not carnivore. Negates the carnivore, but it keeps you keto. It's wise. Yeah. So it's not habitat towards the end. I don't know how long I did red. I don't really track it, but maybe 6 months give or take. And I was having some stomach problems towards the end and I was pretty confident it was red. So I jumped off for sure. So drink lots of water. Yep. Hydration.
39:02Speaker 3Hydrate, get those stuff moving, eat enough fat. Right? If people do carnivore and just eat too much protein, that's really going to slow that gut down. You have said like, Hey dude, the more fat, you know, you're eating enough fat. If you poop just easy.
39:17Speaker 2it's just gonna just rock up. Yeah. That tells you that's how you do it. Like, your body to listen to your body.
39:44Speaker 3It's just a bit different, whereas carnivores is just like animal products keto. Yeah. Whereas keto is like, I don't care. You just know,
39:51Speaker 3no carbs and throw you out of ketosis and mostly protein. Yeah. Ketos are good. You gotta track macros like crazy.
39:57Speaker 2Kind of. You gotta know your macros and keep these things. It just makes things get more complicated. Does Carnivores beautiful.
40:05Speaker 3The simplest. Don't eat this. Simple. Eat this. For like a caveman like me, crazy. Right. You know what mean? But then it gets kinda hard to get pure fat. It is like olive oil, avocados.
40:33Speaker 3Nuts aren't even pure fat. They have some protein in them. Eggs aren't. I guess you could eat egg yolks, but still yolk has a little protein.
40:44Speaker 3is basically how we store water in our muscles, right? So you will notice for sure on keto, carnivore, you might start cramping up a lot easier. So this is why you need to water,
41:03Speaker 3they've, a long time ago, they made that stuff for people in keto. You look at the content and it's
41:12Speaker 3And an uneducated mind would be like, wow, oh, that's so bad for you. It's all salt. Well, the whole point is because they're, most of their stuff is just no, no, no carbs. They know you got no carbs. You better find a way to hold water in your body. And salt sodium is the only way to do it. And And if you're doing it correctly, that's okay. It's not bad. Now, if you're just to
41:34Speaker 3salt all day, along with your sugar and stuff, that is bad. If you're doing everything right, sodium is good for you. Right?
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42:29Speaker 2Salt and Well, yeah, if you're drinking water without salt like, oh. You're not gonna really absorb a lot of that water. So you gotta throw that. My wife always laughs because I always have a ton of salt in my because you
42:43Speaker 2body needs it. But I think the fiber will really help. It's not carnivore, but if we're doing keto, like, dude, the yeast- How hard core carnivore do you wanna If you want to be doing it for like the reason of like some of the guys that are just,
42:54Speaker 2they have their, that's what they do. They won't break it. Like me, I was like, Hey, avocado was a carnivore. No, but like it's fat and I liked it and it worked for me. So what's your objective? What's your objective? Not that simple. All right. Good job.
43:13Speaker 3going mostly carnivore, but I'm not going to be strict on it, but just basically I'm cutting out. Here's the thing folks I have learned in my life. If I can not eat sweets
43:22Speaker 3and get enough protein, like protein's my barometer. If you're just working to get enough protein, right? If you can get like in for a big man, right? 2 50 pounds, right? If
43:44Speaker 3is, but I'm going for at least a gram, very minimum, at least that's even hard to do. It is.
43:56Speaker 3guess what? I'm probably getting enough fat if I'm not going full keto, right? Like I'm getting my dietary need of fat. I'm probably not, and I'm not eating sweets. I'm guarantee you that I'm not eating a bunch of other carbs because they can't even fit with that much protein coming in.
44:10Speaker 3And you start to just go, God dang, I am doing all those good things for my body. I don't want that. I don't want that shit. You will see, I don't know. For me, it like works fast. Like I don't notice in a couple of days, but when
44:25Speaker 2have to change your taste buds and that's not easy. I've done it numerous times. I'm in the middle of it now. Like I keep kind of like thinking, cause I feel better. I feel better when I am on full carnivore,
44:38Speaker 2I'm getting older and my body's like, my God, he's going through some changes. I like, I'm toying around with some different diet stuff just to see where I can find that sweet spot. And those carbs,
44:47Speaker 2they, I get a little bloated, just how it is. But I look bigger. So like, what is your objective?
44:53Speaker 3You want to get ripped? Pros and cons. Carnivore will rip you up, dude. If you do hardcore carnivore for a month, I'm telling you, you will drop fat like crazy. Then you wanna get you wanna get me buff really 1 day as I do carnivore and then Eat some carbs. Eat some carbs. Go, like, holy shit. You were twice the Yeah.
45:09Speaker 3Right. And still looking lean, a little ripped up because you've And then you take IGF-one.
45:18Speaker 3but, so I've just started to do that because we were leaving to go on a little vacation that might be
45:27Speaker 31 month to really get in shape. I know, and I'm not taking really any testosterone or any other like performance enhancing supplements because I'm trying to make a baby, but
45:38Speaker 2know my body reacts really worse. Yeah. So, yeah, so like it's crazy because like hardcore
45:43Speaker 2dude, so 1 of the things when was doing the Retta and I added in the carbs was 1 of the reasons I also didn't like it and we'll know this because he knows me well, I
45:51Speaker 2am just crazy about my discipline. Like, right? I just want to be, and when I started to do Loretta, I would bend on that discipline
46:00Speaker 2because I could do it. And then I started bending on it a little bit. And then I realized that I had bent so far that I was like eating, you know what I mean? Like, I know that might not mean anything to other people, but it does to me. Like, I just, I like to be in the zone of like, that's works well for me,
46:15Speaker 2and it's hard to get back there. I've been trying to get back ever since man. Like this morning I was like, I lifted out my house before, cause we got to go And dude,
46:23Speaker 2my brain was like, eat some carbs, have some toast, some sourdough toast. Like, didn't fold, but man, did I want to? It was a bitch though. Even in 1 day,
46:43Speaker 3and, you know, you set set yourself a path and a goal and like, damn. I mean, for me, I have all I haven't really known mentally, like, how far I've let it go, but, like, every decision, not really every decision in my life, but, like, food decisions, you start making 1 bad decision, you're like, doesn't matter. Like, because I already meant that when, you know, and it's just false. And then when you start making the right decisions, holy shit, do you feel more empowered and more energy? It's such a bigger problem
47:16Speaker 3every time you reinforce the right decisions, which I think is like a, you know, psychos-1.01
47:30Speaker 2all compounded little wins and little losses. That's why I've always loved the carnival because
47:35Speaker 2it, this is what you can eat. You can't eat all this. It's very simple. And if you do this, you get ripped.
47:44Speaker 2eventually for anybody that's thinking about it, like you will get ripped for 1 and 2,
47:55Speaker 3The sugar calls Oh it to yes. Yeah, absolutely. Alright, right on, dude. I think, I'm reading. Had I not even read this yet? Sleep quality. Sleep quality. Hey, guys. I'm a 42 year old woman who started my pip pip journey about 5 weeks ago.
48:10Speaker 3Currently focused on fat loss and body recomp, super active and eat well with a focus on protein, good for you, as well as mitigating symptoms of perimenopause.
48:19Speaker 3Since starting my stack, my sleep quality has been consistently poor despite getting between 7 and 9 hours a night. And I'm hoping you may have some suggestions. My current stack is Reta 2 mgs once a week. BPC 500 micrograms
48:43Speaker 35 times a week. SS-thirty 1 and MOTS-one mgs each, 5 times a week. I take all of them in the morning except with the Reta, which I take in the evening. Here's an example of excellent
48:54Speaker 3of recent sleep score data from my Garmin watch for context. Duration, 9 hours, 16 minutes. Excellent stress
49:08Speaker 3poor light, 8 hours, 10 minutes for REM sleep, 41 minutes, poor awake, restlessness, 1
49:17Speaker 3restless moments. Jam. I mean, this is bad. Also having very vivid dreams. I mean, which usually is kind of a good thing. Dreams, nightly that are more often than not negative. They're more often than not negative in nature. I understand the importance of sleep recovery, so I can't help but think this quality of sleep is hindering my results. I appreciate you guys.
49:52Speaker 3yeah, like all of these numbers though, having 9 hours of sleep are all really bad, you know, like deep REM sleep, 45 minutes or something like that. Yeah. Was curious how you and I were gonna answer this question the same.
50:05Speaker 3Now, so that all sucks. I have a sleep number bed just recently and like it gives you that sleep score. I'm actually surprised how well my score is. Good. I mean, how good my scores
50:29Speaker 3usually, so dreams is like when we get into REM sleep and the fast, you know, rapid eye movement sleep,
50:40Speaker 3is usually a good thing because that means you're in REM and that's our recovery sleep.
50:48Speaker 3you probably have some psychological things going on in your awake life, right? That like are manifesting in your dreams. And so,
50:56Speaker 3yeah, some like internal worries, which totally can contribute to bad sleep. But why don't you go ahead and tell them, tell us what you have the sleep issues. Well, I do know. I love that we talk about this because I
51:07Speaker 2didn't know how important sleep was. We all hear that until I really started having problems. And then I had problems because of the lack of sleep that, so it's been, it's been a cool experience only from the standpoint of what I've learned studying from it.
51:20Speaker 2And it's been really eyeopening and I love when I hear people that are having these same problems, because I can kind of at least pass on my knowledge, but here's something that kind of jumped out at me when you said this is you're tracking all this stuff. This is what it says,
51:33Speaker 2but if you pulled that out, would you think that you had good sleep? Yeah. You're sleeping a lot. So like, let's pull that out and stop looking at that. 1 of things that I don't do anymore is I don't my phone's by my bed. I don't look at the clock because if it's 3, I'm like, oh, should I go back to sleep or should I and it screws in my head. So I don't turn that sucker over until I know I'm ready to get up and that's helped me. So maybe pull that sleep tracker thing out and you'll have, you'll have this 9 to 7 hours, 7 to 9 hours sleep, then you'll know that you did well because the answer is how do you feel?
52:12Speaker 2What's helped for me, if I didn't If I don't If I'm not full and like, dude, what helped for me for a long time was like
52:18Speaker 2having a little bit of toast, like sourdough toast or like a little bit of oatmeal before I went to bed that helped me sleep
52:31Speaker 2And make sure you're getting enough calories. You need to be hydrated, make sure you're drinking salt water,
52:39Speaker 2if you want the protocol that's been passed on to me by 1 of our viewers, I wish you would see this again because I've asked numerous times if you'd hit me up on my DMs.
53:05Speaker 2maybe that will help you. But yeah, I would pull that tracker out for a week and see if that changes your mindset because I could be just screwing with your head. So I don't look at my phone for a reason.
53:16Speaker 2So maybe troll that. I really think that you probably get better sleep than you think. You're just tracking it from that. So As far as the peptides go, like,
53:33Speaker 3I agree everything that you said though too. Like imagine you didn't have the tracker, like, what would you think?
53:38Speaker 2I bet you did. Bet you's a big problem. Yeah, it could just be mind effing. Who knows? Maybe they think Garmin's not right. Now you're like- I feel so rested. No show. Yeah, no doubt. Oh, god tired. Right. But,
53:49Speaker 3so but if this persists and you let's say you don't feel good. Okay. You don't feel like you're getting restless sleep after 9 hours. That's a lot of sleep. You should have more than 45
53:57Speaker 3or 25 minutes of REM sleep. Like that's really bad. Yeah, DSIP. Oh. DSIP could help, but I would systematically
54:04Speaker 3pull peptides. So MOTS C can absolutely have some stimulating effects. Mean, if you're only taking 1 mg,
54:10Speaker 3but and in the morning, which is you should, don't take any of these things later than 10AM,
54:18Speaker 3But what if you're really sensitive and those are really still, like basically it sounds like if this is true, your nervous system is just not able to calm down again. Okay? That is what's happening.
54:52Speaker 3your testosterone plummets, cortisol goes crazy. Absolutely. Right? Same reasons why you see the same, like, 5 old dudes in the gym playing basketball 3 times a week and they're all still fat.
55:02Speaker 3Like, what the hell? These guys run their asses off. Right? Cause they're just, they're just doing, they're doing cardio, which is just increasing their cortisol and
55:22Speaker 3but I would systemically drop them. I would try doing your Reta in the morning too. Agreed. I don't know.
55:28Speaker 3There really is no I mean, there's very few people feel the nausea, and it's the only reason to take it at night is to avoid the nausea maybe. But, like, I don't think you're gonna get it, especially you've already been taking it. So I would try that in the morning, but I would systematically, like, watch, see what happens. Like,
55:47Speaker 3do that for 2 weeks, see if it makes any difference. Then pull the MOTS-seed SS-thirty 1.
55:56Speaker 3Add indeed do some of these small experiments on your own so you know what the problem is so you can figure it out immediately.
56:07Speaker 3But That's that's great for you too. So it's not nothing bad. No. It's only not Shit. I don't know how old you or 42 year old woman. You might even wanna add in some tiny little, like, low doses of testosterone.
56:24Speaker 2up, fellas? Thank you for all you guys are doing. The world needed you guys. I'll rad. Thank you. I have an odd question that hopefully you can answer for legal size.
56:48Speaker 2on some peptides, but they're reluctant on injecting more than 2 times a day for now. Understandable. Can I combine SS-thirty 1 and Semax in 1 syringe for the morning and Clo and Tessa
57:03Speaker 2For ease of them, I would pre fill all syringes for the whole week, 5 on 2 off with the peptide deficiency still be valid. Thanks in advance. I'll answer it because I do this often. Yeah, I do. I think so. I don't know if I was going to answer this the same, but, I've done those and, I think that would be great because you want them to take these and you want to simplify life for your parents.
57:27Speaker 2That's great. I think what you're doing for them, like I've told my story, my old man would not take peptides until finally he gave in and he's like, that's it.
57:35Speaker 2And, now he talks about peptides all the time. So it's kind of how it is, you know, 72, that's old. We're trying to kind of teach old dogs new tricks, but when they start feeling great, they're going to want to take more. It's kind of how it goes. But, my, my opinion is absolutely you can mix those and no, I don't think it's going to mess up the efficiency
57:56Speaker 2for a week. I think it's great. I think you're simplifying it and you're helping them simplify their life.
58:06Speaker 3my only issue is, so I don't think that it will, it will diminish the efficacy at all.
58:46Speaker 3Right? That you can mix them same with the same carriers. In fact, you don't even need to. You can mix the Tesamorelin with bacteriostatic water. You can mix your clo with no sting.
59:14Speaker 3So I would do that to reduce the sting for the clo. You only know if you try it and they, and they, and it turns cloudy together.
59:28Speaker 2and Clo, those would be blue. You would know it. You would know. You could still see it. You still see it turn to cloud. Would say take out the Tesa and do HGH for your parents are getting old. I think HGH is gonna do way better than the Tesla for 72 year olds. That is true. And that 1 then you really don't wanna mix that with anything because it will turn cloudy.
59:46Speaker 3I there's no problem. There's no competing pathway issue, so there's no efficacy issue. The only competing thing would be even if it just
1:00:00Speaker 3and technically fast. That's what I'm done. And go, alright, I can't do that anymore. Okay. But, dude, yeah, none of those
1:00:11Speaker 3taking 5 syringes and injecting them all 1 x 1 right into you, and therefore, there's no difference in just filling the syringe up. Your parents will not like you. All the time. And then your parents won't like you other than that. Yeah. Yeah. It's not through. Think it's alright. Yeah. Best friend was involved in a motorcycle accident a couple years ago, which resulted in a lot of damage to his ankle. I haven't heard this 1. Yeah. Several surgeries later, some rods, etcetera. He's got a lot of scar tissue, constant swelling and pain. Will BPC TV help at all with injury that old? Did we answer this before? Like in past episodes? I think it's kind of similar. Guarantee we have, but
1:00:42Speaker 2you want to go or I'll go? I think that it will help. Yes. Absolutely. It will help and do it. It will help reduce the swelling, which causes pain. It's very worse. It's not gonna hurt. Yeah. So he's not doing so well. So like, and how much? Dulot. Yep. Especially
1:01:01Speaker 3that are chronic, have stopped really trying to heal themselves. Right? You're at an injury. It's so like nagging. Your body's just like, oh, screw it. I'm living like this. Yeah. Right? Sure. TB is the 1 thing that will actually kinda, like, wake that stuff up. Yep. Sending more regrowth
1:01:17Speaker 3Alright. I'll read again. Have loved the discovering so have loved discovering the results peptides can bring. But
1:01:26Speaker 3found myself in the ER with anaphylactic reaction, about 5 minutes away from not breathing.
1:01:31Speaker 3Histamine rushing to my face, ears, and swelling tongue and throat. Hundred milligrams of Benadryl, Pepcid, and Epi shot later, I'm feeling better. Was
1:01:44Speaker 3For some context, I'm 8 weeks into an 8 week cycle of 1 mg daily. Also on Reddit, 1 mg, 3 times a week. And Clomiphene, 25 mg, 3 times a week, DHEA,
1:02:06Speaker 2because what, like, what I would ask you is how long after you took it, that happen?
1:02:14Speaker 2It's so scary that it's like a rocket ship because I've had it from CJC- CJC and my wife, I'll tell the story. It's
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1:03:29Speaker 2So is there any other changes? You know, I don't think that you're going to ever fully know. There's definitely a big possibility. It could be the Tesa, but the hour long dude,
1:03:40Speaker 2definitely. And let's just say it as a Tessa. Should you do Tessa from there? No. 0 If it is position. No. So, you know, Joe Brown was just on the podcast. He'd get a friend of ours and, that same thing happened to him. He'd take Tessa free. He'd been taking it for a long time, loved it. And then almost overnight, it just stopped working. He had a histamine response and he tried it again and it was even worse, which usually happens.
1:04:03Speaker 2went to the ER, so it's kind of a big deal for dumb and say, could try it again and see what happens if it wasn't this bad.
1:04:10Speaker 2But that hour, dude, I don't know. That throws me off. I don't know if a histamine is like a meal. So also Tesamorelin
1:04:28Speaker 3It's like CJC is way more likely. I agree. So JD's have said this before, like his wife did CJC 1 time whack and goes, walked into his room and said, I don't feel very good. What's wrong with you? He's like, what in the hell is wrong with you? Like her lips were all swell up. She was red, swell it like that. And that was her very 1st time using it. So this stuff does happen, but dude, 1st of all, guess we're really happy you're alive and like made it. And that was as soon as I get serious
1:04:56Speaker 3to something, but it is odd. An hour usually doesn't take until maybe- Check out the food. Did you take any Was
1:05:04Speaker 3there anything in that day that you took that's outside of the norm? I would say- Anything else that you took that is not what you told us, right? And not even like medication, anything, food, something unique. Did you go hiking? I don't know. You like
1:05:34Speaker 2would like, I've said it before, I would not have believed it. If she tried to explain it to me if I wasn't there, I would not have believed what I saw. And I did research right after because I was like, holy shit.
1:05:45Speaker 2throat starts to feel like it's closing up, you go to the hospital. Yeah. Because that's not. Yeah, the airway is not something to So mess
1:05:52Speaker 2do it. There's no coming back. I would say my opinion, you give me yours. I wouldn't probably do the test since you went to the ER. I don't, I don't, I am super 50 50 if it was a Tesla because of the hour. And
1:06:05Speaker 3it's just not likely an hour. And I don't know how long you've been doing these things, but like, have you taken any of these other ones before?
1:06:12Speaker 3Right? Maybe it's maybe allergic to I mean, people can just be randomly allergic. People can be allergic to sunlight. You can someone can be allergic to clomiphene,
1:06:19Speaker 3but if you're allergic to it, it would have hit you the 1st time you took it. So what's the 1st Any of these things was it for the 1st time?
1:06:33Speaker 3can I would I mean, dude, that's honestly that's concerning? It's scary. You can totally go to, an allergist
1:06:42Speaker 3and they go, alright. What are you allergic to? And then they see they go, alright. What did you react to? It's probably worth it, dude, and be completely honest with them about what you took, what you're taking.
1:06:55Speaker 3I'm gonna do a little research, dude, because, like, you don't wanna be just scared of some things that's your whole life and and you figure out that it's because you ate some a peanut butter sandwich
1:07:04Speaker 3or something, you know, at the same time and that's the actual culprit. And now you just don't take anything out, any peptides.
1:07:12Speaker 2Getting a brilliant answer. All right. Yeah. All right. Yo fellas, new follower here. I'm 34 years old and have been dealing with chronic coughs since 2013.
1:07:20Speaker 2The doctor's been dicking me around. For example, I never had any reflux symptoms and the scope came back clear, but they still put me on a PPI,
1:07:36Speaker 23 months ago to get off the PPI. My wife seen something at the doctor's office today that it could be
1:07:47Speaker 2causing chronic cough and fatigue instead of taking 3 antibiotics for at least a year. What peptide would be the best to use in this case already on BPC and TB?
1:08:06Speaker 2I know it's gut. And the reason I know it is, you know, Doctor. Scott has done a deep blood work and
1:08:13Speaker 2a stool test, and I've had another doctor that I respect say the same thing. And he didn't know anything about me saying anything. He just heard the cough and said, Oh, that's a gut. And I'm like, that made me feel good. So,
1:08:27Speaker 2I'm doing a lot of work on my gut. It's just, it sucks. But in regards to the peptide,
1:08:37Speaker 2I'm going to say you're going run it for about a month, 40 days maybe. And then you're going to throw in the KPV
1:08:58Speaker 2and that's the protocol should help. I'm in the middle of that. I'm about to run to the LL-thirty 7 when we get back on our trip in a few days and I will keep you posted as I progress with that too, but I have the cough.
1:09:12Speaker 2suck. I am a huge, I think they mess up our gut. I've taken in the past a lot of them, and I think that has been the culprit for myself. And,
1:09:27Speaker 2know, there's a lot of people listen to this podcast and have gone to him since. He's, I want him to give a really bird's eye view of what he's seen in the stool tests and in the blood work because he's done a lot And
1:09:38Speaker 2I would like him to kind of break that down of what he's seeing. And he's just seeing a lot of gut problems, man. He's my wife. I think 0.5 our office is seeing him.
1:09:51Speaker 2and I'd get off the antibiotics dude. Antibiotics suck. They do nothing. If you're dying, get on antibiotics. Other than that, don't take them. Yeah, I 2nd that. If you wanna message in and like ask us,
1:10:05Speaker 3please do. Cool. We got 2 more. Alright. Recently started listening to your podcast and I love the info. Super informative. Recently started Reta about 3 weeks ago. Context, I'm 32 of 3 kids and a year postpartum from my 3rd.
1:10:34Speaker 3I weight train 3 to 4 times a week consistently. Also getting into running 1 or 2 days a week for heart health because I'm a cardiology APRN.
1:10:51Speaker 3belly fat. Have heard mixed reviews on Tesa for women thoughts and doses to start out. Oh yeah.
1:11:04Speaker 3should be walking the walk good for you, right? There's nothing worse than like the health
1:11:17Speaker 2the people would say, well, my doctor said this, I said, let me ask you a question. This is a real question. Is your doctor in shape? No.
1:11:54Speaker 310 mgs to 3 mgs of Ipah, is it maybe a good good point for you starting I'd start off. So like, look,
1:12:05Speaker 3growth hormones increase too high levels, go too high, too fast, people start to retain water, especially women.
1:12:30Speaker 3And you may end, depends on where you end. I don't know. That's up to you, but I'd be looking to end be a sweet spot somewhere between 1 milli 0.5 of a milligram and 1 mg of Tesamorelin daily.
1:12:47Speaker 3But yeah, do it and good for you. I guarantee with the amount of activity you do and your knowledge, that's going to kick ass and work really well. 0 Yeah. I'm gonna answer a little bit differently.
1:12:57Speaker 2I think that the key here is what you said right in the beginning was recently started Retta about 3 weeks ago. I would say give it some time, man. Like you didn't gain any all this weight at 1st, so why don't you give the Retta some time to kind of kick into 5th gear? I think that the Testa is great. I think you should add it, but maybe wait a little bit because of that. And, then I would add on some AOD on top of the Tesa when you do do it, but let the Reddit, like, let the Reddit, you're not even in 2nd gear yet, man. You've done it for 3 weeks. Well, also you just increased to 1 mg of Reddit weekly. That's nothing. That's like, what's our clinical start dose? 2 Mish or 2.5? And like, you're not, you just increase to 0.5 of the starting dose. Right. So
1:13:36Speaker 2if you do that for like, let's try like 2 months and kind of maybe go up a little bit and Retta's going to burn that fat off.
1:13:42Speaker 2I mean, cause the objective is when we want to feel great and we love peptides, duh, but
1:13:56Speaker 2So like you are 32, if you were like 45, it might be a different answer, but I think you give the RET to do what it do. And maybe increase the dose a little bit. Yeah. Then
1:14:06Speaker 2add that stuff in because you're gonna see results, you're gonna want to add in more peptides and maybe you don't need the test, maybe you try some SS-thirty 1 or something different, NAD.
1:14:14Speaker 2So anyways, that was my answer. Went a little bit different. That was very good. Last 1, I meant to me. Yeah. All right. I'm take this home because we gotta get on a plane.
1:14:32Speaker 2as lean as I would like, especially around my stomach and arms and legs. I find food noise and overeating,
1:14:44Speaker 2family meals, dinners out, etcetera. I'm going to start Retta, but I'm not sure on the dosage as,
1:14:50Speaker 2and also long term plan. I don't want to be on it forever and I'm scared about weaning off gaining all the weight back. I don't want to lose a lot of weight as my frame is still relatively small. I want to keep my muscle and I don't want to know. I don't want people
1:15:08Speaker 2I just want to lean out a little bit to be more confident in my clothes at the gym. Thanks so much for your podcast.
1:15:28Speaker 2If you have to hide anything, don't think you should do it. You seem a little stressed about it, so give this some time. Maybe you
1:15:49Speaker 2That's why I was just telling you about a couple of questions back, when I'm off my discipline, I don't like it. I like to be focused and my best version and discipline is that key to it.
1:15:59Speaker 2So you can achieve it. But again, I think if you have to hide it, I don't think you should take it. Because, you know, when we have people all the time, don't tell anybody I want to sell Sean,
1:16:09Speaker 2You don't deserve this. You know what I mean? Like, if you're going to hide stuff, don't hide anything, man. That's a form of lying and that's, I just don't like that. So I hope that that doesn't offend you because I'm just being real with you.
1:16:21Speaker 2Because you seem a little, little timid about it. I would give it some time. Go old school 1st. Retta will always be here. And if you're ready to tell people you're on Retta, maybe take the Retta. We'll tell you the dosage then. Yep. I'd
1:16:33Speaker 3be a 2nd to everything there. Here's the thing, like, honestly, the the worry about, oh, it'll stop and all the weight comes gaining back is like What if? What if? What if? If you're
1:16:45Speaker 3if you do it completely ass backwards wrong, that will happen, but, like, that's manageable. Yeah. I can tell you that it's totally manageable. It's like people doing, I don't know, doing steroids, like, oh, steroids are killing me. Yeah, but if you do testosterone or testosterone, like, the right way and not just be a complete dumbass about it, like, you can do it safely. Yeah. So same thing with Retta, like, if you so choose,
1:17:07Speaker 3you can just be very you can be smart on how you get off of it, and it will not come all the way. It won't come rushing back. Brilliance
1:17:14Speaker 3of Beretta is it's not you can you can you keep your appetite. You keep your muscle. You keep eating.
1:17:26Speaker 3Start ultra low. And when it's time to wean off, literally wean off, you know, just stop.
1:17:32Speaker 3Okay. And if you'd never even go really high, then that weight gain, it can, like the, the Reta is like, is the training wheels. It is not the bicycle, right? The bicycle
1:17:50Speaker 3Reddit is just a little training wheel thing. Gotta ease that along and to get you over some humps and get you there and use it as such.
1:18:01Speaker 3It. Tell people. I mean, own it. Don't hide it and own it. Everyone's on Retta. Anyway,
1:18:10Speaker 2tell her. Don't tell her. There's the 1, the 1 person that's admitting it. They're like, yep, he's, everybody's on it.
1:18:16Speaker 3Like, I actually looked at the stat the other day we were talking about. So 24 percent of the population in West Virginia is on a GLP-one. That's including children?
1:18:26Speaker 3I mean, children aren't on it, but that that that that's statistic. Oh, that's in that statistic. They're included in the 20, so like, right. So if we look at that, you know, I don't know what the population of children is, but maybe 30%
1:18:42Speaker 3that 25% now probably goes up to 50% of everybody. And now it's West Virginia. We talked about this as a follow-up to, think, you know, I said that
1:18:59Speaker 32 guys that are ripped. They're on Reddit. It's amazing compounding like, and fuck. If you got some religious thing, I don't know. You know, we don't know you, but like,
1:19:09Speaker 3you're right. I guarantee you that you're lying to people and they're lying back to you. Yeah.
1:19:14Speaker 3Tell somebody with balls to be like, you know just need some honest friends. I'm on the hunts too. And everybody's like, I am too. It's the most amazing thing. And then everybody enlightens and everything gets better and now everybody's happy. Tiffany's on runner too, honey.
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