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1:08Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way, Mr. William T Haas, like always. What's up? What's up, man? We have
1:19Speaker 2a busy day.
1:21Speaker 2We have always a busy day. I was thinking this morning as I was kind of getting ready, I was like, dude, I could literally work for 24 hours students. I'd still be busy. Oh yeah. I'm just like, dude, I can work for a week straight and still never catch up. Seriously crazy like that.
1:35Speaker 2But so we,
1:36Speaker 2we will and I are gonna, we're gonna gonna bust out this podcast. We've got the Q and A about to, we're about to do here. Then, he and I are flying out of town for a few days to,
1:45Speaker 2go meet with some of our suppliers for our business and check out their operation, make sure that we, for our business, do the top quality products.
1:54Speaker 3That's
1:55Speaker 2right. We practice what we preach. Yep. We tell you guys to do that, so we do the same. True that. It'll be, so cool. Yes. It'll be enlightening, but but,
2:05Speaker 3yeah, we get to fly across the country, not out of the country. Yep. Folks. Sumo. Inside of the country, but far away from us.
2:13Speaker 3On the opposite coast.
2:14Speaker 2Yeah.
2:16Speaker 3Dude. It'll be fun.
2:18Speaker 2Were flying out to
2:19Speaker 2Prague next month. We
2:21Speaker 2took Mr. Peter Magic on his offer. He seems actually pretty stoked. Mean, dealing with talking
2:27Speaker 2with him on email. It seems like he's seems pretty stoked about it. That will be even cooler.
2:33Speaker 2We were just sitting before we started recording about a 15 hour flight. Neither of us have done it. I've never done it. So
2:40Speaker 2I was telling Will that like my wife was trying to get me to bring her and the boys, which I wish I could. But
2:49Speaker 2I feel bad for her. The plane would probably crash.
2:52Speaker 2Would
2:53Speaker 2The scream as earth shattering, dude. You'd be screaming,
2:57Speaker 2have to sit there for 15 hours. Should make like
3:00Speaker 3soundproof cubicles
3:02Speaker 3for kids. Right?
3:04Speaker 3Maybe like a big ball or something. Put them in the bubble. Put them in. Yeah. And you just- Let them scream. Lock it up and just go ahead. Put that screamer in the bubble.
3:13Speaker 3Exactly.
3:14Speaker 3Mason Mason would be in the bubble. The stirrup tub. Put him the bubble. Put him in the bubble. It's a good idea. I've often thought when I have a kid, like, these soundproofing things that we have here just make a closet. Now, guys, I'm not serious about this,
3:26Speaker 3but like soundproof the closet for kids being crazy. And like, it also where they can't hurt and it's all padded. Just
3:33Speaker 3shut up and lock you in there and you can't now talk to us and nobody can hear you and you can't hurt yourself. I,
3:41Speaker 2when my sons are crying, like for no reason, like if they hurt themselves, listen, cry. Like
3:46Speaker 2everybody knows my stance. I'm crying and I'm this dad and I'm trying to mold them into men. Like, I go, listen, this is the no crying section. 1 You are allowed to cry if you feel like you need to cry. And that's your room. You go in there, we're going to shut the door. You cry it out and they usually stop crying. That's like,
4:04Speaker 2listen, like he's screaming at the top of his lungs. Either I throw him on the roof.
4:10Speaker 2I'm
4:11Speaker 2joking people obviously again, but like
4:14Speaker 3Speaking of we, I went to the little league night day at Angel Stadium on Sunday. So we got there at 8AM to tailgate for 1PM game.
4:25Speaker 3The
4:26Speaker 3kids had fun, but it's funny. So we sat down in the stadium. 1st of all, we're in, like, the widening sun.
4:31Speaker 3Oh. About 2 minutes after we sat down, the nice the ushers like, hey,
4:36Speaker 3you know, you're not happy. You can, there's plenty of seats up here in the shade. Feel free to ask, tell, are you with everybody? Just tell everybody that y'all can be like, thank you. Oh, dude. Because I'm leaving in 5 minutes. But- Yeah. They had, she goes, Oh yeah, also, can you tell the kids, like, they gotta keep their shirts on? I was like, yeah, yeah.
4:53Speaker 3But she goes, so we've had just some kids, it's been a thing now. They just stay in kids, take their shirts off and like
5:00Speaker 3wave it around their head like a helicopter. And they,
5:03Speaker 3but she's like, don't have them do that, but we have a section for the no shirted kids over there
5:10Speaker 3across the stadium, literally. And the coach took river and like 2 other kids. He's like, I'm going to take them to the no shirt section.
5:17Speaker 3That's the section where the kids will be tatted soon up there. Yeah, exactly. Yes. So those kids up in the nosebleeds, all the nether shirts on, just running off, being crazy. Oh man, that's funny. It's kinda funny.
5:28Speaker 2Well, that's cool. You gotta do that, man. That's so important. Seth's yeah.
5:33Speaker 3No, but I looked for Dave Singh and I couldn't find him because I didn't, I guess I didn't look hard enough. But we have a good friend who just- Oh, is he working? Yeah, cool. He got approved.
5:42Speaker 3He owns a coffee stand, so he's been doing his coffee. What's the name of it?
5:46Speaker 3Rise. Rise espresso bar, everybody. There's a shout out, Dave.
5:51Speaker 3He had, he's been doing the OC Fair, so he's got a little trailer and he's set up so for all all the events at
5:57Speaker 3the Fairgrounds,
5:58Speaker 3but then he got a tryout to do it at Angel Stadium.
6:02Speaker 3And it did and it did it. And he passed the tryout. They did say 1 of his best things are cookies. As you know, he's got these like 0.5 pound cookies. But
6:12Speaker 3Angel Stadium basically said, thanks. You did great. You're in. You can't sell cookies. We got some We already got a cookie guy. Like, you can't be the cookie guy. He's like, oh, well, whatever. But basically, what
6:23Speaker 3comes along with that is
6:25Speaker 3you have to be there for every event that takes place in Angel Stadium. Brutal. So you can't just be like, cool, you can come to the games that you want to come to, right? No calling it sick. If you use no calling it sick. So he
6:36Speaker 3was there, I'm sure, and any other event that's in Angel Stadium, but I was, you know, toting around a bunch of kids and- I didn't have time. Coffee wasn't your mind. I got a funny, I got a cool story about Dave
6:45Speaker 2and I,
6:47Speaker 2he was a kick pocketing coach. That's what Dave did. And I used to work out with Dave Saturdays.
6:51Speaker 2We'd meet up and we'd, I met him at the gym and his dad was sober and like, we just hit it off. Love Dave, just kindest guy in the world. He's like my brother. I freaking loved him from my way.
7:02Speaker 2Every Saturday he and I would lift and as he
7:05Speaker 2was going through a transition from not going to do that anymore, he didn't know what he was going to do. And I was just, the mortgage industry had dried up and we were both in that limbo stage. What are we going do? Remember we had sat down with Brett. We were, we were talking through all that stuff because we were really like digging into and we both started our businesses right at the same time. Did the fitness stuff. He did the coffee thing and we were talking about this the other day and like where we're both at now. We were like, both all like nervous. Like what are we going to do? You know? Now like, but the point of that is
7:33Speaker 2in between though is hard ass work, dude. We both pay, but people see this part. They're like, you must be nice and be lucky. Want this part too? Me to share mere money? Here's the must be nice part that you gotta talk about too because the 16 hour days and no sleep. No doubt. You know mean? The stress at all times. Yeah. That's a cool story. So now he's, he's He's doing well. He's on his way to doing well. He's just gotta clean up his, like, business like, the books and stuff because he's Hire somebody. Yeah.
8:02Speaker 2Hire somebody.
8:04Speaker 3But
8:05Speaker 3love him. Another friend, I'm wearing his shirt. He says eat, pray left. And so our other friend just started this company.
8:13Speaker 3They makes hats. Let's say, what does the hat say? I think it says that. So,
8:21Speaker 3but
8:22Speaker 3come
8:23Speaker 3on. I just wore it like the last 2 days, father figure.
8:29Speaker 3They say father figure. And he just became a dad. And he just became a dad and he's always wanted to for long time. They've been trying to be for a long time. They've given up, they gave up at 1 point. Yeah. What sucks?
8:40Speaker 3And then Retrad
8:42Speaker 3and it happened. But so I'm here repping his clothes and I, JD doesn't like them, but I kind of liked these big shirts. I actually am very impressed with- I'd cut the sleeves-
8:51Speaker 2cut the sleeves, bro. Yeah.
8:54Speaker 3He's like, I know.
8:57Speaker 2So, yeah, cool. Everybody go check this out. I think, I don't even know what the- We'll put it down at the Yeah, we can put it down. So same by you. And we also want to tell everybody for school, join school. It's people are loving it. We're continuing to put amazing stuff on there.
9:13Speaker 2And we are also,
9:15Speaker 2because a lot of people have asked, we have just started a weekly newsletter
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9:29Speaker 2people keep asking for things and we try to do our best to provide them
9:33Speaker 2at the pace that we can provide them. We're still going to do the meetup because we get asked literally daily. Pedro was just talking about people at the gym. When is it? It's like, we're doing it. Yeah, so that's coming. We're
9:46Speaker 2traveling a lot in the next month. That's why we moved it from the 27th. We thought it was a wise decision to not just throw it together, but that's coming to you. So join school newsletter.
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10:00Speaker 2And lastly, we will have the warrior meetup at the end of the 1
10:04Speaker 3End of the summer, true war meetup. We are inviting people in. Are you allowed to say that by now for like on the 27th?
10:13Speaker 2Okay. We're going to, we're going do this weekend. Sure. We're going to do, well, this is going to drop on Thursday. It's perfect. Okay, cool. So we're going to do this weekend.
10:20Speaker 2The 27th. For local. Well, no, it's gonna be this weekend for Father's Day. So for Friday, we're gonna have a locals
10:27Speaker 2discount for people to actually come into
10:30Speaker 2the business
10:32Speaker 2and get a locals discount. Discount.
10:34Speaker 3Any, like, we have some free, some swag do we give out and like, to say hi and, 3 you know, nothing- Meet the locals, It's
10:42Speaker 2not like a big planned event or anything folks. Yeah. But if you like what we do and you're
10:47Speaker 2in Orange County and you wanted to come by and
10:50Speaker 2see the team get some stuff. We are trying to cultivate that type of people. Want to like
10:56Speaker 2meet the people.
10:57Speaker 2It's a big part of just a businessman. Old
11:01Speaker 2school stuff. We pride ourselves in trying to say we're from the old school shaking someone's hand and it's my opinion. And it's just as good as Knowing signature.
11:09Speaker 3Your neighbors, helping your neighbors,
11:11Speaker 3right? Like supporting local businesses. This small business is the lifeblood of this country by the way.
11:19Speaker 3And we all should do our parts to yes. Help each other out. Right?
11:24Speaker 3Like, like my friend started this company and
11:27Speaker 3he sent us, he gave us a shirt and a couple of hats. And then I went and bought a couple more shirts.
11:33Speaker 3Didn't ask for a discount. Didn't ask for a discount. No. I haven't even told him yet that I bought them. I've
11:39Speaker 2seen people that order from us that I know. And I'm like that dude. And then I text them and say, here's a discount code because bro, that's cool. Like, you know, I mean, not to knock people that ask for a discount, but people ask for a discount, but like the people that just do it because they want to support. Yeah. That is very cool. That is style. That's, that is great. It's good stuff. Well, cool. Let's kick us off. We've got the Q and A and then we are hitting a plane. Yes. Let's do it. Question 1. What's up fellas? Thank you for all you guys are doing. The world needed you guys.
12:07Speaker 3I have an odd question that hopefully you can answer. For the legal side of peptide world, I know a few police officers in hot water with their agencies over peptides
12:16Speaker 3or potential sales of peptides. Probably a big difference there. Please don't mind.
12:22Speaker 3You all know what
12:24Speaker 3what the
12:25Speaker 3legalities behind
12:27Speaker 3it here in California's
12:29Speaker 3or a potential crime?
12:31Speaker 3Lap it low. Thank you again. Can't wait for the next peptide of the week. Alright. That's a unique 1. That's a first- It's a unique question. It's a good question. So 1st of all,
12:42Speaker 3peptides operate in definitely a gray space that's kind of tightening pretty fast. But,
12:47Speaker 3for a police officer,
12:50Speaker 3just realize if you're a police officer, right, you also despite what things are legal and not legal, you probably have an elevated code of conduct
12:59Speaker 3that you need to look into that we can't tell that I have no idea what that is. Yeah. But usually, like, just because something's legal doesn't necessarily mean it's okay for a police officer to do. So I would watch yourself. I think that,
13:12Speaker 3and so in the, and they even, I even looked this up and like sometimes they'll treat
13:16Speaker 3on FDA approved drugs that are not illegal, right, as like controlled substances
13:23Speaker 3as a police officer. So just watch yours breed your own Yeah. Con maybe like I did. I don't know. Seriously,
13:30Speaker 3it's not worth none of this stuff it's not worth losing your badge or career over. That's for damn sure. Now we know intimately a company that
13:39Speaker 3are all firefighters
13:40Speaker 3and they have a peptide business
13:43Speaker 3that sells only to firefighters.
13:46Speaker 3And
13:47Speaker 3I think that that's great.
13:49Speaker 3Chip, getting our our public servants who need their bodies to recover, right, And to work better, all the support they can possibly get plus putting some extra money in their pocket, plus giving them all discounts. Like, I think that's awesome, but I'm sure there's some lawyers, some asshole out there that
14:05Speaker 3can find a way to profit off of this and to screw them over, which
14:09Speaker 3is unfortunate.
14:10Speaker 3But
14:11Speaker 3so the police officer, dude, I know that that's happening in the fire department.
14:15Speaker 3Now they need to make sure, you know, I'm sure they know the rules and they're very out and open. They're not doing this.
14:20Speaker 3It's not like, Hey dude, Ruth is like toolbox here. Want to buy some peptides? Like this is a business that they have reps and firehouses.
14:28Speaker 3So that's happening. I don't know about the police,
14:31Speaker 3but that's all I can say. I know that like
14:34Speaker 3research only use, like, to sell peptides, right,
14:38Speaker 3the ones that are not FDA approved, okay, all the peptides so the FDA approved ones are
14:44Speaker 3all the GLP or Ozempic,
15:01Speaker 3There's a few more that are, but
15:04Speaker 3those ones cannot be essentially,
15:07Speaker 3like, cannot be sold without a prescription. Okay? All the other ones that are not FDA approved can be sold, but they cannot be sold
15:16Speaker 3for human consumption. They need to be like research use only. So whoever's selling it, you cannot
15:21Speaker 3elude to, hey, you should buy this because you're going to use it or how to use it, etcetera. You're selling it and saying, hey, this is for you to do some home research and
15:32Speaker 3my hand, like, whatever you wanna do, do with it. It's great shit.
15:37Speaker 3That's the but that doesn't really apply or affect this police officer. I think you need to check out what your own codes are, especially selling it. Yeah.
15:45Speaker 3There's a difference there. Like Winstraw, for example, anabolic steroid, totally okay to possess and take
15:51Speaker 3unless you're a Olympic unless you're a professional athlete competing,
15:56Speaker 3but also not okay to sell.
15:58Speaker 3So you're okay to buy it and use it, but you can't sell. And
16:04Speaker 3that's illegal,
16:06Speaker 3like illegal. So,
16:08Speaker 3you know,
16:09Speaker 3but it's not illegal. The actual substance isn't illegal. So whatever I
16:14Speaker 2I would think that there's a big difference of, are they selling the peptides? Are they taking the peptides now? I think it really boils down to the department policy. I don't know if there's,
16:23Speaker 2I would imagine the police departments have the same policies, but probably not. Don't think I bet now. So like we had a gal that a police officer that came on 1 of my other podcasts and she had to get clearance and clearance and clearance, which was intelligent on her behalf.
16:38Speaker 2I felt that
16:39Speaker 2at 1 point to be pretty, come on dude, but like, it's her job. Right? And so I totally got it. And then they cleared her. Right. But if
16:48Speaker 2she didn't get cleared and she's on, you know, a podcast talking about whatever pep tabs and stuff, you know, she can get in trouble. Right. I think it's for sure a lot of, especially as far as the use goes, it's like a don't ask, don't tell. Right? Like
17:00Speaker 3what are they going do? Like proactively test people for peptides? No. But,
17:06Speaker 3if you're taking them just like- You find a needle though, you're a locker, works. Right. Don't do that because you cannot tell them. I mean, anyway, I won't even Yeah.
17:15Speaker 2Are great, man. Yeah. We all know what they're for, but you can't sell them for human consumption. They have to be for research.
17:21Speaker 2They sell them as research, what you do with the research, it's up to you. You're an adult, act like it. That's it. Research.
17:28Speaker 3Don't sell them if you're a cop. Don't sell them openly,
17:32Speaker 3legally. I don't know. And be careful what you are selling to dude. Like just cause you can,
17:36Speaker 3you know, found some way to get something really cheap from China, like, that's not good enough to sell.
17:44Speaker 2Dude, everybody's talking about that these days and they're not. Like, you need to
17:50Speaker 2yeah.
17:51Speaker 2Okay.
17:52Speaker 2Good. You got that. Number 2. Hey, JD and Will. I've been seeing discussion lately around Tesamorelin
17:58Speaker 2in the morning when also running Retta,
18:00Speaker 2mainly because gastric emptying is slowed in the typical 3 to 4 hour fasting window before bed can be tough to manage consistently.
18:08Speaker 2Do you recommend switching Tessa
18:11Speaker 2to the morning in that situation?
18:13Speaker 2If so, how long should you wait to eat after for best effectiveness?
18:18Speaker 2Also
18:19Speaker 2on 1 of the recent podcasts with Paul,
18:23Speaker 2I noticed the recommended tested dosing sounded quite a bit lower than the common 2 mgs protocol.
18:30Speaker 2Has your thinking shifted on optimal dosing when combined with Retta?
18:35Speaker 2Just trying to understand the approach is actually best from both an effective and practicality
18:41Speaker 2standpoint?
18:42Speaker 3Great question. Yeah, that's a good question.
18:45Speaker 2He's obviously thought through that. He's probably done some research, but that's a great question. And I think I ought to correct you that,
18:52Speaker 3okay, so I just, I just, we're gonna post something to school that's very similar and kind of is my,
18:58Speaker 3I've done a bunch of research on this and a well thought out answer to this and encompassing some other things, but basically on Tesa and Reta, which is a freaking awesome combination.
19:09Speaker 3But the dosing times do matter. And I will tell you that I might just say something that kind of contradicts
19:15Speaker 3what we have talked about in the past and because it's this new It's
19:19Speaker 3growth. There's new information. But the 1st thing is you said that, so the 2 mg,
19:24Speaker 3we have never ever, ever, ever said to take 2 mg of Tesamorelin,
19:29Speaker 3ever. Now the FDA, I'm reading this, is literally from the FDA approved the
19:34Speaker 3dosing, right, for Tesamorelin,
19:36Speaker 3okay, is 2 mg,
19:38Speaker 3right? And this is only, but only for
19:42Speaker 3HIV associated lipodystrophy,
19:44Speaker 3right, excess visceral fat in the HIV
19:47Speaker 3patients.
19:49Speaker 3And because that will the medication they're taking, it will freeze and it ultimately can be fatal. So
19:55Speaker 3they, in this study,
19:58Speaker 3what they're trying to do is have the patient not die from this
20:02Speaker 2lipodystrophy.
20:04Speaker 3So they're throwing everything at it. Who cares about the other side effects that 2 mg of Tesamorelin are going to produce?
20:11Speaker 3Only thing that's important is saving this patient's life.
20:14Speaker 3I don't care if they look bad or bloated or blah, blah, blah, right? But they are going to fix this problem. That 2 mg that you've heard, we've never said it. I
20:25Speaker 3don't think that's appropriate for the normal person who wants to
20:29Speaker 3trim up and have their growth hormone boosted a bit. Right?
20:33Speaker 3So we still stand by the starting point and 0.5 of a milligram
20:38Speaker 3bump up to a full milligram, higher than that man. Better be a special person,
20:42Speaker 3who can take that and not have a bunch of water retention.
20:47Speaker 3But here is the answer for the Tesamorelin.
20:49Speaker 3Okay. We have normally
20:52Speaker 3Tesamorelin
20:53Speaker 3works is blunted.
20:55Speaker 3K? It's by by insulin in your body. Okay? So you do not want-
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21:44Speaker 3On a whole bunch of insulin occurring, your blood full of insulin at the same time taking Tesamorelin,
21:50Speaker 3that pathway will really blunt the growth hormonal effects, okay, of Tesamorelin.
21:55Speaker 3ReDA,
21:57Speaker 3it's GLP-one
21:58Speaker 3agonism, right? It's got a really high GLP-one agonism higher than semaglutide.
22:03Speaker 3Well, equal to semaglutide, way higher than
22:05Speaker 3tirzepatide.
22:07Speaker 3That does is part of it is it tells your body, hey, there's a bunch of sugar and we just ate a big meal, which it really didn't. And our bodies then produces pushes a whole bunch of insulin out. Okay? So when we're taking Retta, your body's you're pushing a bunch of insulin into your body. Yeah. So,
22:25Speaker 3and Tesamorelin
22:26Speaker 3isn't gonna work very well with a bunch of insulin.
22:29Speaker 3So the goal here is to separate those as much as possible. Now, unfortunately, GLP-one is a 5 day activated, right, thing. Like, so there's no fully getting away from the Retta, but
22:42Speaker 3that negation
22:43Speaker 3isn't
22:44Speaker 3even at all equal to the plus of the synergy of putting them together. So here's the quick easy recommendation is we have always said take Tesamorelin at night. Okay? Why? That is what it's FDA approved to take at night. Why? Because that links up to your circadian rhythm of when our biggest natural growth hormone pulse is at night and we're trying to like boost that up. So we've said, take it at night,
23:09Speaker 2also, but
23:11Speaker 3also the thing is there's that,
23:14Speaker 3but you've eaten all day usually.
23:16Speaker 3Even if you don't eat 2 hours before, you're still got a little bit of insulin going down. Right? It is better to take Tesamorelin
23:23Speaker 3if taking Retta in
23:26Speaker 3the morning time after an 8 hour fast and still fasted.
23:29Speaker 3That's more important than the circadian rhythm joining up and take Retta at nighttime. So the quick answer, the bottom line, Reta at night,
23:38Speaker 3Tesa,
23:39Speaker 3I think in the morning, that's what's contradictory.
23:42Speaker 3Right? But if you didn't take them, you want to separate them as much as possible. Right?
23:47Speaker 3Reta 3 times a week, Tesla daily,
23:50Speaker 3but on a fasted state on the Tesamorelin. Yeah. Don't eat either another hour after you take it. So 8 hour fast, because you're sleeping, take your dose of Tesa, don't eat for another hour, but also at that Reta 3 times a week at night, I'd go 2 hours before you eat that. Cause that's also heavily influenced by
24:07Speaker 3you being fasted or not. Yeah. Generally 2 hours ish.
24:10Speaker 3Hours ish. And then hour on the after. And it's not easy at night. No, no. We all get hungry at night. Plus trying to go to sleep
24:18Speaker 3hungry is miserable. Totally. I can't do it. You feel your ribs.
24:22Speaker 3So,
24:24Speaker 3I wrote this with more coherent thought for everybody.
24:28Speaker 2Well, if you had asked this like 6 months ago, it would have been a different answer because the
24:33Speaker 2peptides are obviously being more studied more and you have so many people taking them. You have so many,
24:40Speaker 2so
24:41Speaker 2much feedback. It's just, it's changing. It's evolving. It's great. Much research. Gosh, if you looked at some of the 1st podcasts that we did, we've changed from it because we have worked with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people since then. And
24:52Speaker 2again, we've said it a 100 times how something reads isn't exactly how it's going to actually play out in the human body 3 because that's just, we're science projects.
25:00Speaker 2Yeah, that I think that you nailed it. I wouldn't have answered that that way either. But as we've learned more now, if you pull out Retta,
25:09Speaker 2it changes the whole
25:10Speaker 3of,
25:12Speaker 3kind of changes the whole equation,
25:14Speaker 3but, but it's still
25:16Speaker 3that 1. I'm still, I kind of toss-up, man. I just want try
25:20Speaker 3it. Like if I would do, if it's, if you pull Retta completely,
25:24Speaker 3that doesn't negate the argument 3 for taking Tessa, the more
25:28Speaker 3taking Tessa in a very extremely fast state.
25:31Speaker 3It's more important than it's circadian rhythm at
25:35Speaker 2that's heavy.
25:37Speaker 3I always like taking Retta because at night everybody, by the way, like some people get nauseous from it still, right? Semaglutide, super, a lot of nausea, definitely take it right before you go to bed. The worst nausea you're, you sleep through same thing, which is appetite.
25:52Speaker 3I would, I still have, you know, just kind of kept with that and said, take Retta at night because if there happens to be any nausea, you'll sleep it off. No problem. And I guess I would say, so then definitely I would, let's try not to take the test at night. Also it's those of you who've taken it. Like it's still going to work. Yeah. Just
26:11Speaker 3you're going to amplify it a little bit more by taking it in morning. But if you pull Retta completely, I don't know, man. I think that this is like- Still going, you're, you're, so you still might just be the better idea to take it in the morning. Interesting.
26:24Speaker 3I don't know. Try both. It's try both. Like, here's the like, we're still studying. Like, scientists seems to be
26:30Speaker 2not exactly sure of what is- Well, yeah, you have to, like, also, like, I think the best thing is how do you feel? That's how do you feel? Because that, I think like if some, if a man says, you need to take this much testosterone and you needed to take this much of this, that's like bro science, right? And that's going give you a beacon. But like, how do you feel? Like if you feel great, then
26:51Speaker 2maybe you shouldn't touch it. You know what mean? If you take the test at night and then you switch it, you do it for like maybe like 3 weeks each and switch it. How do you feel? Try that. Like that's, that's, that's the research
27:01Speaker 2you're actually doing research. Like,
27:03Speaker 2that's the stuff that I could tell you with my own experience with peptides, dude, it's radically changed
27:10Speaker 2with my own experience where I'm not even gonna take peptides at night. I've had so much sleeping problems and I don't, I'm doing so good and sleeping now that I'm not even gonna mess with So like I take all my peptides in the morning and I don't take any at night. It's been great for me. I'm saying you're me, but like that,
27:26Speaker 2don't want to take people when they sometimes when people take a read out, they don't sleep that well. Just, it is what it is. So taking it at night could mess that up. But anyways, you have to just try. It
27:36Speaker 2takes a while. We all want to maximize our peptides. They're not cheap,
27:41Speaker 2right? So it's a great question,
27:44Speaker 2but once again, got to just try them both. See how you feel, baby. But your answer is now Tessa morning.
27:51Speaker 2Nice. I like it.
27:52Speaker 2Big change. Look at Yeah.
27:54Speaker 2So I got- He's gonna say Tesla Ipi though. Am going say Tesa. I know. He's a Tesa Ipamorelin. Just
28:01Speaker 3don't think I just don't see why you would, just take Tesamorelin by itself. Yeah.
28:06Speaker 3Maximize it. If Ipamorelin's gonna just synergistically make it work that much better, what-
28:11Speaker 2not? Why not? And there's a blend now, so just- There's Yeah.
28:14Speaker 3Different different configurations
28:16Speaker 3of blends too or take them if you wanna get your own perfect precise ratio,
28:20Speaker 3cool, buy buy Tessa and buy Ipah and take them together.
28:24Speaker 3But there's also blends like a like a 5 mg, 5 mg, 10 mg, 3 mg, which I think is a good 10 mg, 3 mg, I think is a good ratio. That's basically like 3 parts,
28:35Speaker 3Tessa to 1 part Ipah. I think that's really good for women because the Ipah
28:40Speaker 3we know is too much HGH
28:44Speaker 3secretion can add can end up in a little bit too much water retention and especially for women because they're sensitive to everything and like a 3 to 1 ratio
28:55Speaker 3seems to really work well for a lot of people. You.
28:59Speaker 3Yeah. And Paul, I don't think ever said 2 mg of tests. I don't think we, we've never said 2 mg of Tesamore. I don't remember, man. We have done a lot of podcasts,
29:07Speaker 2so I don't know,
29:09Speaker 3But that is what the clinical team says. I We can roll, baby. Okay. I've been contemplating
29:13Speaker 3starting Clo,
29:15Speaker 3prior to abdominal surgery in August.
29:18Speaker 3Wondering, 1, is this a good 1 to start with? 2, if so, what other supplements like vitamins, collagen do you recommend pairing with it?
29:26Speaker 3If Cloak isn't the 1 to use before a surgery like this, what would you suggest in achieving optimal healing? You know where that's going? Yeah.
29:35Speaker 2Go
29:35Speaker 2ahead. Yeah, give me what you're saying. Well, I think we're going to answer the same, but let's see.
29:40Speaker 2I would, I like the GHK-1.1
29:43Speaker 2I'm thinking you're going with the Clo because of the KPV because that's obviously great too. Like the reason I'm going say start with the Wolverine is just because you can take a shit ton out of it as you should.
29:53Speaker 2You know, we've talked about it on this podcast
29:55Speaker 2countless times that, my surgery, I took massive, massive, massive doses of the Wolverine. And I have no doubt in my mind that it expedited my healing,
30:05Speaker 2cut it down by at
30:07Speaker 2least 0.333, maybe 0.667, literally I was in the gym 2 weeks later.
30:11Speaker 2Yeah, so that's why I would, I would do the Wolverine now GHK-3s
30:15Speaker 2for collagen. Great added in there, but I personally would separate them.
30:20Speaker 2Because of that, you can take a ton. How much did you take? I don't know. How much can you afford? Like literally before
30:26Speaker 2the surgery, like start dosing about 3 weeks at least. And then when you have that surgery, just blast it. I mean, I was taking huge doses where even I was like, are you sure bro? And
30:36Speaker 2he was right. So that's why you want to separate those. So I like the Clo idea.
30:42Speaker 2Just, I would personally separate it from that because you can't control that mountain and Clo. So a lot of Wolverine
30:48Speaker 2add in the GHK-3s, which is going to be great for the collagen production. Do the key KPV 2 for gut, but that's how I'm going to answer that for sure. I would agree. So here's in a more practical sense, like the GHK-two
31:00Speaker 3is out is working on your, like, dermis layer, really, is to to to
31:05Speaker 3have your body create more collagen right there on the skin layer. So it's actually showing that to heal skin wounds faster. And what you are trying to do is not have scars on your abdominal surgery. Right? And like, so absolutely
31:17Speaker 3take GHK-one hundred mg
31:19Speaker 350
31:29Speaker 350 mg mgs, GHK-two GHK-two GHK- CU GHK-two is hundred hundred
31:32Speaker 3what it is. You have to be in that ratio. Okay? We don't, I wouldn't really take more than, you know, 3.5
31:39Speaker 3mgs, 3 times a week of GHK-3s.
31:41Speaker 3So here's what I would do is I would get to CLO.
31:44Speaker 3I would take that
31:46Speaker 33 times a week,
31:48Speaker 3like 3.3
31:49Speaker 3mg of it, and then I would also buy the BPC plus TB-five
31:54Speaker 3hundred mix, which is the Wolverine blend,
31:57Speaker 3and supplement
31:58Speaker 3use that to blast in way more BPC and TB
32:03Speaker 3before and after, especially after 5
32:06Speaker 3days, especially after saturate that. We're talking, I mean, I would talk,
32:11Speaker 3don't know,
32:12Speaker 32 to 5 mg a day.
32:14Speaker 3If you can afford more, go ahead, but like more realistically, right? 2 Migs to 5 mg, at least for the 1st month after and put it right there. Hell SNAP-eight might not be even be after it is. And guys, we're talking, do not inject this stuff into an open wound, right? Like the goal is to put that like a triangle kind of around where the surgery is. So we're trying to really just saturate from all angles
32:36Speaker 3with all of this, you know, stem cell healing properties and collagen absorption and signaling of BPC and TB-five 100 all around there. SNAP-eight
32:47Speaker 3helps muscles wrinkles.
32:49Speaker 3It helps your
32:50Speaker 3skin essentially and muscles relax a bit, and that does not cause wrinkling.
32:55Speaker 3Therefore,
32:57Speaker 3it can tighten up skin, but I would put on the GHK-3Cu
33:00Speaker 3plus
33:01Speaker 3SNAP-8s
33:02Speaker 3serum
33:03Speaker 3after that wound is closed. Stuff's amazing for sure.
33:06Speaker 3A 100%.
33:08Speaker 3Other supplements, vitamin C, zinc, vitamin D,
33:13Speaker 3get a lot of sun. Good diet.
33:15Speaker 3Diet. You can also add Tessa Ipamorelin. Okay. What are those doing? Those increasing growth hormone signaling, right? That's your body growing and healing faster. So that'll
33:25Speaker 3give you kind of an overall systemic thing. And then we got the CLO plus Wolverine,
33:29Speaker 3which is just adding high doses of BPC TB
33:33Speaker 3spot injected there. Boom.
33:35Speaker 2Boom. That's it. Yeah.
33:37Speaker 2Good luck with that. I like it. Yeah. Keep us posted.
33:39Speaker 2You'll have good luck. Wolverine. That's why we choose it as our favorite, but just because it's a, you can use a ton of it as you should. And this is universal.
33:48Speaker 2All right. Am I up? Yeah.
33:50Speaker 2All right. Hi all. Hello from Scotland. Glad I found the group of your amazing podcasts. Thinking of doing carnivore, but heard it doesn't go well on Reta due to the high fat content.
34:00Speaker 2Should I drop the Reta altogether or just lower the dose on 2 Migs just
34:05Speaker 2now, as well as doing TRT
34:08Speaker 2and going to start 2 IUs of GH shortly. Thank you for the information you have you give and sharing your experience of using peptides.
34:18Speaker 2Big love from Scotland.
34:20Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah. School
34:22Speaker 2what's that? What's it? That
34:24Speaker 2movie. The problem with Scotland is it's full of Scots. Braveheart.
34:29Speaker 2Braveheart's
34:30Speaker 3amazing planet. Scotland's full of Scots. Yeah. Dude. Assholes.
34:34Speaker 3God, English suck in history.
34:38Speaker 3There's Americans from some point of view, but we all suck every conquering. Dude, I saw that movie like And
34:44Speaker 2I walked out of it and ready to conquer the world.
34:47Speaker 2Still, I will still watch that. When you're done, you're just like, when he kills his bride, just did, you will die.
34:55Speaker 3Well, I'm a carnivore. I bet when Wallace was an alcoholic too, by the way.
34:59Speaker 2He
35:00Speaker 2did those people. Was
35:01Speaker 2just crazy.
35:03Speaker 2Kept his ass alive. Yeah. Give him some more booze.
35:07Speaker 2It's
35:08Speaker 2something about that gene, bro. Like it's, that's for sure. I agree. Yeah, I'm a carnivore. I can tell you I've done Retta and I
35:17Speaker 2don't know. I mean, you can definitely do Retrutide with
35:21Speaker 2a big carnivore without it. Now my experience,
35:24Speaker 2which is the best I can give you because it's my experience. I was on a carnivore for 5 years
35:29Speaker 2until I started doing Retta. Now, I found personally
35:34Speaker 2that I did feel very strongly that my body
35:39Speaker 2needed
35:40Speaker 2carbs
35:41Speaker 2for the 1st time in 5 years. I didn't have that strong
35:44Speaker 2pull on
35:47Speaker 2me until I started adding in the Retta. So
35:51Speaker 2you can for sure.
35:54Speaker 2You think that you'll get a little bit of benefit more from it if you do add a little bit of carbs in. Now,
36:00Speaker 2what's your objectives? I
36:02Speaker 2mean, that's always the answer to that question.
36:06Speaker 2Are you trying to lose weight? You're trying to get buff. Are you, that plays a huge role in it. You know, I was, I was, you know, super lean and in shape
36:14Speaker 2so I could get away with carbs. You know, I love the carnival lifestyle. And since I've started, I've ping pong back and forth because once you haven't had cars for 5 years and you have them, damn, they're good.
36:25Speaker 2But
36:27Speaker 2I like how I feel without them, but
36:30Speaker 2you know, so anyways, but no, yeah, you absolutely can.
36:34Speaker 2Should you? I really think from a standpoint of the objective is going to answer that better. Yes, you can get away with carnivore
36:43Speaker 2and doing some carbs, even maybe try what I'm doing right now is carbs before you lift carbs after, keep it real low.
36:50Speaker 2Because you're, you're, you're not even going to notice body wise that you're doing those carbs. It's gonna, you're gonna do well with them. But if you want to stay strict carnivore, yes, you can.
37:01Speaker 3Absolutely. You totally can. It's a good thing. In fact, it will make enhance everything now.
37:06Speaker 3What are your goals? If you're doing carnivore for
37:09Speaker 3immune,
37:10Speaker 3like autoimmune
37:11Speaker 3suppression things, that's
37:13Speaker 3a different story. But like, if you're just if you're trying to take Retta and do carnivore because you wanna look good and lose weight, like,
37:20Speaker 3don't do the full carnivore. You can have some carbs. Yeah. It you're Especially on Retta. Like,
37:25Speaker 3the Retta is
37:26Speaker 3so low carnivore is gonna be as low as, like, it's gonna increase your insulin sensitivity.
37:32Speaker 3It's not gonna
37:35Speaker 3and
37:36Speaker 3taking Retta is actually gonna boost pump more insulin in you, which is gonna work even better,
37:42Speaker 3in
37:42Speaker 3this low insulin state.
37:44Speaker 3They will 1 hand a 100% just amplify the hell out of each other. You
37:49Speaker 3can eat a little bit of carbs because the Retta would just take turns. You already notice it. It will just absorb it and the insulin will kill it off and it'll take some IGF-one too, like before you lift and like, bro, if you're eating a good amount of protein, that just sucks all these nutrients that you're getting right in the right places. I
38:05Speaker 3guess, so here are some concerns with doing that is the digestion.
38:10Speaker 3So already
38:11Speaker 3having a low, having a high protein and high fat diet can slow digestion a little K? That's why you feel a bit fuller longer from fat. K? That's a good thing. Right? It can also reduce your appetite. So it can further
38:24Speaker 3slow that GI tract,
38:26Speaker 3which is a good thing. That's the whole point. Right? But taken to the extreme,
38:33Speaker 3you don't want it to freeze. Yeah. You know? So fiber, you could actually add pure
38:39Speaker 3fiber supplements.
38:40Speaker 2Which is not carnivore. Negates the carnivore, but it keeps you keto. It's wise. Yeah. So it's not habitat towards the end. I don't know how long I did red. I don't really track it, but maybe 6 months give or take. And I was having some stomach problems towards the end and I was pretty confident it was red. So I jumped off for sure. So drink lots of water. Yep. Hydration.
39:02Speaker 3Hydrate, get those stuff moving, eat enough fat. Right? If people do carnivore and just eat too much protein, that's really going to slow that gut down. You have said like, Hey dude, the more fat, you know, you're eating enough fat. If you poop just easy.
39:15Speaker 3If not,
39:17Speaker 2it's just gonna just rock up. Yeah. That tells you that's how you do it. Like, your body to listen to your body.
39:25Speaker 3Gallstone risks.
39:26Speaker 3Right? True. Having a high protein and
39:30Speaker 3like no fiber. Right? Because it's just gonna start solidifying.
39:34Speaker 3Creating little gallstones, I suppose.
39:37Speaker 3Electrolytes, so we know in keto, folks, like,
39:40Speaker 3make no mistake. If you're in carnivore, you're keto. Okay? Yeah.
39:44Speaker 3It's just a bit different, whereas carnivores is just like animal products keto. Yeah. Whereas keto is like, I don't care. You just know,
39:51Speaker 3no carbs and throw you out of ketosis and mostly protein. Yeah. Ketos are good. You gotta track macros like crazy.
39:57Speaker 2Kind of. You gotta know your macros and keep these things. It just makes things get more complicated. Does Carnivores beautiful.
40:04Speaker 2Meat.
40:05Speaker 3The simplest. Don't eat this. Simple. Eat this. For like a caveman like me, crazy. Right. You know what mean? But then it gets kinda hard to get pure fat. It is like olive oil, avocados.
40:15Speaker 2That's not carnivore. That's
40:17Speaker 3what I'm saying. Like Beefalo. Beefalo is about all you can do is pure fat. Right?
40:23Speaker 3Butter. At least with keto,
40:25Speaker 3you can do
40:26Speaker 3olive oil. Yeah. MCT oil. It's different. MCT. Avocados.
40:30Speaker 3It's about the only thing that's just pure fat.
40:33Speaker 3Nuts aren't even pure fat. They have some protein in them. Eggs aren't. I guess you could eat egg yolks, but still yolk has a little protein.
40:39Speaker 3Anyway, that
40:41Speaker 3would the point there, oh, electrolytes. So carbohydrates
40:44Speaker 3is basically how we store water in our muscles, right? So you will notice for sure on keto, carnivore, you might start cramping up a lot easier. So this is why you need to water,
40:53Speaker 3water, water, water. Salt,
40:55Speaker 3salt. Salt.
40:57Speaker 3The only electrolyte you can get is from salt. You'll see a lot of these like isopure
41:01Speaker 3protein is
41:03Speaker 3they've, a long time ago, they made that stuff for people in keto. You look at the content and it's
41:09Speaker 3salt, the sodium content is like off the charts.
41:12Speaker 3And an uneducated mind would be like, wow, oh, that's so bad for you. It's all salt. Well, the whole point is because they're, most of their stuff is just no, no, no carbs. They know you got no carbs. You better find a way to hold water in your body. And salt sodium is the only way to do it. And And if you're doing it correctly, that's okay. It's not bad. Now, if you're just to
41:31Speaker 3eat unhealthy shit and just drink
41:34Speaker 3salt all day, along with your sugar and stuff, that is bad. If you're doing everything right, sodium is good for you. Right?
41:40Speaker 3You hear? You say like, dude, you're feeling like crap. You just chug some Celtic-
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42:29Speaker 2Salt and Well, yeah, if you're drinking water without salt like, oh. You're not gonna really absorb a lot of that water. So you gotta throw that. My wife always laughs because I always have a ton of salt in my because you
42:41Speaker 2use it. Your
42:43Speaker 2body needs it. But I think the fiber will really help. It's not carnivore, but if we're doing keto, like, dude, the yeast- How hard core carnivore do you wanna If you want to be doing it for like the reason of like some of the guys that are just,
42:54Speaker 2they have their, that's what they do. They won't break it. Like me, I was like, Hey, avocado was a carnivore. No, but like it's fat and I liked it and it worked for me. So what's your objective? What's your objective? Not that simple. All right. Good job.
43:07Speaker 3What?
43:08Speaker 3Oh, love carnivore. Good stuff. Did I've, as of yesterday started
43:13Speaker 3going mostly carnivore, but I'm not going to be strict on it, but just basically I'm cutting out. Here's the thing folks I have learned in my life. If I can not eat sweets
43:22Speaker 3and get enough protein, like protein's my barometer. If you're just working to get enough protein, right? If you can get like in for a big man, right? 2 50 pounds, right? If
43:33Speaker 3I want it 2 g, which is pretty impossible,
43:35Speaker 32 g of protein per pound of body weight. That's a lot.
43:40Speaker 3100 grams of protein, right? It's not really doable. That
43:44Speaker 3is, but I'm going for at least a gram, very minimum, at least that's even hard to do. It is.
43:50Speaker 3But if I can get a gram of protein,
43:52Speaker 3okay. If I can get a gram and 0.5 of protein per pound of body weight,
43:56Speaker 3guess what? I'm probably getting enough fat if I'm not going full keto, right? Like I'm getting my dietary need of fat. I'm probably not, and I'm not eating sweets. I'm guarantee you that I'm not eating a bunch of other carbs because they can't even fit with that much protein coming in.
44:10Speaker 3And you start to just go, God dang, I am doing all those good things for my body. I don't want that. I don't want that shit. You will see, I don't know. For me, it like works fast. Like I don't notice in a couple of days, but when
44:23Speaker 2you don't crave the sugars, you
44:25Speaker 2have to change your taste buds and that's not easy. I've done it numerous times. I'm in the middle of it now. Like I keep kind of like thinking, cause I feel better. I feel better when I am on full carnivore,
44:38Speaker 2I'm getting older and my body's like, my God, he's going through some changes. I like, I'm toying around with some different diet stuff just to see where I can find that sweet spot. And those carbs,
44:47Speaker 2they, I get a little bloated, just how it is. But I look bigger. So like, what is your objective?
44:53Speaker 3You want to get ripped? Pros and cons. Carnivore will rip you up, dude. If you do hardcore carnivore for a month, I'm telling you, you will drop fat like crazy. Then you wanna get you wanna get me buff really 1 day as I do carnivore and then Eat some carbs. Eat some carbs. Go, like, holy shit. You were twice the Yeah.
45:09Speaker 3Right. And still looking lean, a little ripped up because you've And then you take IGF-one.
45:13Speaker 3Take your IGF-one and do that consistently
45:15Speaker 3like you're a monster. So,
45:18Speaker 3but, so I've just started to do that because we were leaving to go on a little vacation that might be
45:23Speaker 3romantic in some sort, and there'll be lots of pictures in a hot place. So
45:27Speaker 31 month to really get in shape. I know, and I'm not taking really any testosterone or any other like performance enhancing supplements because I'm trying to make a baby, but
45:36Speaker 3watching 1 month,
45:38Speaker 2know my body reacts really worse. Yeah. So, yeah, so like it's crazy because like hardcore
45:43Speaker 2dude, so 1 of the things when was doing the Retta and I added in the carbs was 1 of the reasons I also didn't like it and we'll know this because he knows me well, I
45:51Speaker 2am just crazy about my discipline. Like, right? I just want to be, and when I started to do Loretta, I would bend on that discipline
46:00Speaker 2because I could do it. And then I started bending on it a little bit. And then I realized that I had bent so far that I was like eating, you know what I mean? Like, I know that might not mean anything to other people, but it does to me. Like, I just, I like to be in the zone of like, that's works well for me,
46:15Speaker 2and it's hard to get back there. I've been trying to get back ever since man. Like this morning I was like, I lifted out my house before, cause we got to go And dude,
46:23Speaker 2my brain was like, eat some carbs, have some toast, some sourdough toast. Like, didn't fold, but man, did I want to? It was a bitch though. Even in 1 day,
46:34Speaker 3there was such a mindset of
46:36Speaker 3I'm doing of restricting and that feels good
46:40Speaker 3and to know that, like
46:43Speaker 3and, you know, you set set yourself a path and a goal and like, damn. I mean, for me, I have all I haven't really known mentally, like, how far I've let it go, but, like, every decision, not really every decision in my life, but, like, food decisions, you start making 1 bad decision, you're like, doesn't matter. Like, because I already meant that when, you know, and it's just false. And then when you start making the right decisions, holy shit, do you feel more empowered and more energy? It's such a bigger problem
47:08Speaker 3to make the wrong decision
47:10Speaker 3for food, you know, food wise. Just is, I don't know, it's so uplifting and helpful
47:16Speaker 3every time you reinforce the right decisions, which I think is like a, you know, psychos-1.01
47:21Speaker 3But like,
47:23Speaker 3it is empowerment and it's, we don't, we don't realize
47:27Speaker 2how far I slip.
47:29Speaker 2They're
47:30Speaker 2all compounded little wins and little losses. That's why I've always loved the carnival because
47:35Speaker 2it, this is what you can eat. You can't eat all this. It's very simple. And if you do this, you get ripped.
47:42Speaker 2You do. It's that simple. And
47:44Speaker 2eventually for anybody that's thinking about it, like you will get ripped for 1 and 2,
47:49Speaker 2your taste buds will change.
47:51Speaker 2Then you do not crave the sugar, but it's definitely for sure.
47:55Speaker 3The sugar calls Oh it to yes. Yeah, absolutely. Alright, right on, dude. I think, I'm reading. Had I not even read this yet? Sleep quality. Sleep quality. Hey, guys. I'm a 42 year old woman who started my pip pip journey about 5 weeks ago.
48:10Speaker 3Currently focused on fat loss and body recomp, super active and eat well with a focus on protein, good for you, as well as mitigating symptoms of perimenopause.
48:19Speaker 3Since starting my stack, my sleep quality has been consistently poor despite getting between 7 and 9 hours a night. And I'm hoping you may have some suggestions. My current stack is Reta 2 mgs once a week. BPC 500 micrograms
48:34Speaker 3each 5 times a week.
48:36Speaker 3Did I miss something?
48:38Speaker 3Anyway,
48:39Speaker 3well,
48:41Speaker 3GHK CU, 2 mgs,
48:43Speaker 35 times a week. SS-thirty 1 and MOTS-one mgs each, 5 times a week. I take all of them in the morning except with the Reta, which I take in the evening. Here's an example of excellent
48:54Speaker 3of recent sleep score data from my Garmin watch for context. Duration, 9 hours, 16 minutes. Excellent stress
49:01Speaker 3excellent stress,
49:02Speaker 337 average.
49:05Speaker 3Poor deep 25
49:07Speaker 3minutes,
49:08Speaker 3poor light, 8 hours, 10 minutes for REM sleep, 41 minutes, poor awake, restlessness, 1
49:14Speaker 3hour,
49:15Speaker 330 minutes, 57
49:17Speaker 3restless moments. Jam. I mean, this is bad. Also having very vivid dreams. I mean, which usually is kind of a good thing. Dreams, nightly that are more often than not negative. They're more often than not negative in nature. I understand the importance of sleep recovery, so I can't help but think this quality of sleep is hindering my results. I appreciate you guys.
49:36Speaker 3Time you take to help all of us in your community. Thanks in advance.
49:39Speaker 3Y'all, that's cool. Really good. And
49:43Speaker 3like, it's crazy
49:45Speaker 39 hours.
49:46Speaker 3You've got 9 hours early.
49:48Speaker 2I
49:50Speaker 2don't think I can do it, but
49:52Speaker 3yeah, like all of these numbers though, having 9 hours of sleep are all really bad, you know, like deep REM sleep, 45 minutes or something like that. Yeah. Was curious how you and I were gonna answer this question the same.
50:05Speaker 3Now, so that all sucks. I have a sleep number bed just recently and like it gives you that sleep score. I'm actually surprised how well my score is. Good. I mean, how good my scores
50:15Speaker 3for the amount of low bad, like I don't,
50:18Speaker 3I wake up quite often
50:20Speaker 3and I don't get that many hours of sleep, but
50:23Speaker 3it gives me a good score. I don't even know. But,
50:27Speaker 3that's
50:27Speaker 3funny. Okay. Dreams
50:29Speaker 3usually, so dreams is like when we get into REM sleep and the fast, you know, rapid eye movement sleep,
50:35Speaker 3that's when we have dreams. Therefore,
50:38Speaker 3the fact that you're having dreams
50:40Speaker 3is usually a good thing because that means you're in REM and that's our recovery sleep.
50:45Speaker 3Now, the fact that they're bad dreams,
50:48Speaker 3you probably have some psychological things going on in your awake life, right? That like are manifesting in your dreams. And so,
50:56Speaker 3yeah, some like internal worries, which totally can contribute to bad sleep. But why don't you go ahead and tell them, tell us what you have the sleep issues. Well, I do know. I love that we talk about this because I
51:07Speaker 2didn't know how important sleep was. We all hear that until I really started having problems. And then I had problems because of the lack of sleep that, so it's been, it's been a cool experience only from the standpoint of what I've learned studying from it.
51:20Speaker 2And it's been really eyeopening and I love when I hear people that are having these same problems, because I can kind of at least pass on my knowledge, but here's something that kind of jumped out at me when you said this is you're tracking all this stuff. This is what it says,
51:33Speaker 2but if you pulled that out, would you think that you had good sleep? Yeah. You're sleeping a lot. So like, let's pull that out and stop looking at that. 1 of things that I don't do anymore is I don't my phone's by my bed. I don't look at the clock because if it's 3, I'm like, oh, should I go back to sleep or should I and it screws in my head. So I don't turn that sucker over until I know I'm ready to get up and that's helped me. So maybe pull that sleep tracker thing out and you'll have, you'll have this 9 to 7 hours, 7 to 9 hours sleep, then you'll know that you did well because the answer is how do you feel?
52:00Speaker 2Do you feel rested? Are you, is your opinion being,
52:04Speaker 2based upon the sleeper tracker?
52:06Speaker 2Because I think that's a big part of this equation.
52:09Speaker 2Now, are you eating too low calories?
52:12Speaker 2What's helped for me, if I didn't If I don't If I'm not full and like, dude, what helped for me for a long time was like
52:18Speaker 2having a little bit of toast, like sourdough toast or like a little bit of oatmeal before I went to bed that helped me sleep
52:24Speaker 2longer.
52:25Speaker 2So a little bit of carbs, which I don't recommend necessarily,
52:28Speaker 2but when you want to sleep, I do, you know?
52:31Speaker 2And make sure you're getting enough calories. You need to be hydrated, make sure you're drinking salt water,
52:36Speaker 2that stuff.
52:38Speaker 2And ultimately,
52:39Speaker 2if you want the protocol that's been passed on to me by 1 of our viewers, I wish you would see this again because I've asked numerous times if you'd hit me up on my DMs.
52:48Speaker 2It's glycine,
52:49Speaker 2it's magnesium,
52:50Speaker 2it's
52:52Speaker 2Valerian root,
52:53Speaker 2and a small amount of melatonin,
52:56Speaker 2slow release, and ashwagandha.
52:58Speaker 2Those
52:59Speaker 24
53:00Speaker 2have
53:01Speaker 2been radical for me.
53:03Speaker 2So
53:05Speaker 2maybe that will help you. But yeah, I would pull that tracker out for a week and see if that changes your mindset because I could be just screwing with your head. So I don't look at my phone for a reason.
53:16Speaker 2So maybe troll that. I really think that you probably get better sleep than you think. You're just tracking it from that. So As far as the peptides go, like,
53:25Speaker 3DSIP. MOTS- C, yeah, DSIP to add in.
53:29Speaker 3Would here's the thing, I would do some experiments.
53:33Speaker 3I agree everything that you said though too. Like imagine you didn't have the tracker, like, what would you think?
53:38Speaker 2I bet you did. Bet you's a big problem. Yeah, it could just be mind effing. Who knows? Maybe they think Garmin's not right. Now you're like- I feel so rested. No show. Yeah, no doubt. Oh, god tired. Right. But,
53:49Speaker 3so but if this persists and you let's say you don't feel good. Okay. You don't feel like you're getting restless sleep after 9 hours. That's a lot of sleep. You should have more than 45
53:57Speaker 3or 25 minutes of REM sleep. Like that's really bad. Yeah, DSIP. Oh. DSIP could help, but I would systematically
54:04Speaker 3pull peptides. So MOTS C can absolutely have some stimulating effects. Mean, if you're only taking 1 mg,
54:10Speaker 3but and in the morning, which is you should, don't take any of these things later than 10AM,
54:15Speaker 3but, and same with SS-thirty 1, okay?
54:18Speaker 3But what if you're really sensitive and those are really still, like basically it sounds like if this is true, your nervous system is just not able to calm down again. Okay? That is what's happening.
54:28Speaker 3Now, perimenopause,
54:29Speaker 3high cortisol, that does that. I
54:32Speaker 3actually just reminded myself with my notes. So
54:36Speaker 3negative
54:37Speaker 3vivid dreams is a sign of high cortisol.
54:41Speaker 3You will and they see it with people in with perimenopause
54:43Speaker 3and
54:44Speaker 3high level endurance athletes
54:48Speaker 3who, as we know, like longer than, like, an hour of of constant exercise,
54:52Speaker 3your testosterone plummets, cortisol goes crazy. Absolutely. Right? Same reasons why you see the same, like, 5 old dudes in the gym playing basketball 3 times a week and they're all still fat.
55:02Speaker 3Like, what the hell? These guys run their asses off. Right? Cause they're just, they're just doing, they're doing cardio, which is just increasing their cortisol and
55:11Speaker 3they're not lifting weights anyway. So
55:13Speaker 3that is common
55:15Speaker 3that negative sleep.
55:17Speaker 3Hey, paraminophos increasing cortisol. So you kind of already know this,
55:22Speaker 3but I would systemically drop them. I would try doing your Reta in the morning too. Agreed. I don't know.
55:28Speaker 3There really is no I mean, there's very few people feel the nausea, and it's the only reason to take it at night is to avoid the nausea maybe. But, like, I don't think you're gonna get it, especially you've already been taking it. So I would try that in the morning, but I would systematically, like, watch, see what happens. Like,
55:43Speaker 31st of all, I'd go rev it in the morning. Alright?
55:46Speaker 3And
55:47Speaker 3do that for 2 weeks, see if it makes any difference. Then pull the MOTS-seed SS-thirty 1.
55:53Speaker 32 weeks, see if there's any difference.
55:56Speaker 3Add indeed do some of these small experiments on your own so you know what the problem is so you can figure it out immediately.
56:03Speaker 2Great.
56:03Speaker 3Everything natural supplement, he said, do it too. K.
56:07Speaker 3But That's that's great for you too. So it's not nothing bad. No. It's only not Shit. I don't know how old you or 42 year old woman. You might even wanna add in some tiny little, like, low doses of testosterone.
56:18Speaker 3NHH.
56:19Speaker 3Watch how, that lowers your cortisol.
56:21Speaker 3Okay.
56:22Speaker 2Next. Yep. What's
56:24Speaker 2up, fellas? Thank you for all you guys are doing. The world needed you guys. I'll rad. Thank you. I have an odd question that hopefully you can answer for legal size.
56:34Speaker 2Do I Oh, that's
56:36Speaker 2the wrong 1, right? Yeah.
56:38Speaker 2Enjoy the podcast and your guys' conversation. Sorry
56:41Speaker 2about that. All right. So enjoy the podcast and you guys' conversations
56:45Speaker 2trying to get my 72 year old parents
56:48Speaker 2on some peptides, but they're reluctant on injecting more than 2 times a day for now. Understandable. Can I combine SS-thirty 1 and Semax in 1 syringe for the morning and Clo and Tessa
57:00Speaker 2in 1 syringe for nighttime?
57:03Speaker 2For ease of them, I would pre fill all syringes for the whole week, 5 on 2 off with the peptide deficiency still be valid. Thanks in advance. I'll answer it because I do this often. Yeah, I do. I think so. I don't know if I was going to answer this the same, but, I've done those and, I think that would be great because you want them to take these and you want to simplify life for your parents.
57:25Speaker 2So yes, absolutely.
57:27Speaker 2That's great. I think what you're doing for them, like I've told my story, my old man would not take peptides until finally he gave in and he's like, that's it.
57:35Speaker 2And, now he talks about peptides all the time. So it's kind of how it is, you know, 72, that's old. We're trying to kind of teach old dogs new tricks, but when they start feeling great, they're going to want to take more. It's kind of how it goes. But, my, my opinion is absolutely you can mix those and no, I don't think it's going to mess up the efficiency
57:56Speaker 2for a week. I think it's great. I think you're simplifying it and you're helping them simplify their life.
58:02Speaker 2I think it's amazing. Do it. Yep.
58:05Speaker 3Here's
58:06Speaker 3my only issue is, so I don't think that it will, it will diminish the efficacy at all.
58:14Speaker 3Here's the only I have noticed is some of the GH peptides, right, and
58:18Speaker 3including growth hormone itself,
58:20Speaker 3when mixed with other peptides,
58:22Speaker 3sometimes turn cloudy immediately.
58:25Speaker 3If that's the case, then don't mix them.
58:28Speaker 3You might have to just mess this up 1 time and go, okay, I can't do that.
58:33Speaker 3For an older person,
58:35Speaker 3the GHKCU
58:37Speaker 3in the CLO might be really hard for them to take because of the Yeah.
58:40Speaker 3You know? But you totally can mix no sting in there with the CLO and Tesamorelin.
58:46Speaker 3Right? That you can mix them same with the same carriers. In fact, you don't even need to. You can mix the Tesamorelin with bacteriostatic water. You can mix your clo with no sting.
58:55Speaker 3And then if you draw and draw,
58:58Speaker 3same things, that that carrier reconstitution
59:01Speaker 3solution will not cause a problem because it works.
59:05Speaker 3The no stain works with anything.
59:07Speaker 3It's the acetic acid water that you don't wanna use
59:10Speaker 3on anything but what it's intended for.
59:14Speaker 3So I would do that to reduce the sting for the clo. You only know if you try it and they, and they, and it turns cloudy together.
59:23Speaker 3And frankly, would do them all of these. You wouldn't know that in Tesa
59:28Speaker 2and Clo, those would be blue. You would know it. You would know. You could still see it. You still see it turn to cloud. Would say take out the Tesa and do HGH for your parents are getting old. I think HGH is gonna do way better than the Tesla for 72 year olds. That is true. And that 1 then you really don't wanna mix that with anything because it will turn cloudy.
59:45Speaker 3But
59:46Speaker 3I there's no problem. There's no competing pathway issue, so there's no efficacy issue. The only competing thing would be even if it just
59:54Speaker 3no. When mixing, it just
59:56Speaker 3turns different
59:58Speaker 3milky cloudy ness
1:00:00Speaker 3and technically fast. That's what I'm done. And go, alright, I can't do that anymore. Okay. But, dude, yeah, none of those
1:00:08Speaker 3there would be no difference of you
1:00:11Speaker 3taking 5 syringes and injecting them all 1 x 1 right into you, and therefore, there's no difference in just filling the syringe up. Your parents will not like you. All the time. And then your parents won't like you other than that. Yeah. Yeah. It's not through. Think it's alright. Yeah. Best friend was involved in a motorcycle accident a couple years ago, which resulted in a lot of damage to his ankle. I haven't heard this 1. Yeah. Several surgeries later, some rods, etcetera. He's got a lot of scar tissue, constant swelling and pain. Will BPC TV help at all with injury that old? Did we answer this before? Like in past episodes? I think it's kind of similar. Guarantee we have, but
1:00:42Speaker 2you want to go or I'll go? I think that it will help. Yes. Absolutely. It will help and do it. It will help reduce the swelling, which causes pain. It's very worse. It's not gonna hurt. Yeah. So he's not doing so well. So like, and how much? Dulot. Yep. Especially
1:00:56Speaker 3the TB is great for old
1:00:59Speaker 3injuries that have stopped,
1:01:01Speaker 3that are chronic, have stopped really trying to heal themselves. Right? You're at an injury. It's so like nagging. Your body's just like, oh, screw it. I'm living like this. Yeah. Right? Sure. TB is the 1 thing that will actually kinda, like, wake that stuff up. Yep. Sending more regrowth
1:01:14Speaker 3signals in. So, yes, do it.
1:01:17Speaker 3Alright. I'll read again. Have loved the discovering so have loved discovering the results peptides can bring. But
1:01:24Speaker 3this past weekend,
1:01:26Speaker 3found myself in the ER with anaphylactic reaction, about 5 minutes away from not breathing.
1:01:31Speaker 3Histamine rushing to my face, ears, and swelling tongue and throat. Hundred milligrams of Benadryl, Pepcid, and Epi shot later, I'm feeling better. Was
1:01:40Speaker 3it the 1 mg of Tesla I took about an hour before?
1:01:44Speaker 3For some context, I'm 8 weeks into an 8 week cycle of 1 mg daily. Also on Reddit, 1 mg, 3 times a week. And Clomiphene, 25 mg, 3 times a week, DHEA,
1:01:54Speaker 325
1:01:55Speaker 3mg daily,
1:01:57Speaker 3a little scared to take the Tesa
1:01:59Speaker 3bait. Yeah.
1:02:02Speaker 2Go ahead. Well, if
1:02:05Speaker 2it's an hour before,
1:02:06Speaker 2because what, like, what I would ask you is how long after you took it, that happen?
1:02:11Speaker 2Histamine
1:02:12Speaker 2like is almost
1:02:14Speaker 2It's so scary that it's like a rocket ship because I've had it from CJC- CJC and my wife, I'll tell the story. It's
1:02:22Speaker 2like so fast that you can't even believe it that fast. It's like, whoo hoo.
1:02:26Speaker 2I think you said it's going to go That's out and have very odd.
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1:03:14Speaker 2Big
1:03:17Speaker 2chance it could be. Okay. Yeah. The hour
1:03:20Speaker 2makes me kind of question that and it makes it a lot more gray.
1:03:25Speaker 2Did you change your diet that day? You know?
1:03:29Speaker 2So is there any other changes? You know, I don't think that you're going to ever fully know. There's definitely a big possibility. It could be the Tesa, but the hour long dude,
1:03:38Speaker 2that's definitely,
1:03:40Speaker 2definitely. And let's just say it as a Tessa. Should you do Tessa from there? No. 0 If it is position. No. So, you know, Joe Brown was just on the podcast. He'd get a friend of ours and, that same thing happened to him. He'd take Tessa free. He'd been taking it for a long time, loved it. And then almost overnight, it just stopped working. He had a histamine response and he tried it again and it was even worse, which usually happens.
1:04:02Speaker 2You
1:04:03Speaker 2went to the ER, so it's kind of a big deal for dumb and say, could try it again and see what happens if it wasn't this bad.
1:04:10Speaker 2But that hour, dude, I don't know. That throws me off. I don't know if a histamine is like a meal. So also Tesamorelin
1:04:16Speaker 3by itself is not
1:04:18Speaker 3a common culprit of a histamine reaction. Not impossible.
1:04:22Speaker 2Yeah. But people like it's very different. Tesamorelin is not usually same. Yeah.
1:04:28Speaker 3It's like CJC is way more likely. I agree. So JD's have said this before, like his wife did CJC 1 time whack and goes, walked into his room and said, I don't feel very good. What's wrong with you? He's like, what in the hell is wrong with you? Like her lips were all swell up. She was red, swell it like that. And that was her very 1st time using it. So this stuff does happen, but dude, 1st of all, guess we're really happy you're alive and like made it. And that was as soon as I get serious
1:04:54Speaker 3in a flight of reaction
1:04:56Speaker 3to something, but it is odd. An hour usually doesn't take until maybe- Check out the food. Did you take any Was
1:05:04Speaker 3there anything in that day that you took that's outside of the norm? I would say- Anything else that you took that is not what you told us, right? And not even like medication, anything, food, something unique. Did you go hiking? I don't know. You like
1:05:18Speaker 3rub up against something. I would, you know,
1:05:22Speaker 3try it again. Like if you got an EpiPen right here on the table,
1:05:27Speaker 2do you want try this scary though, I saw my wife like that dude, it was gnarly.
1:05:32Speaker 2Dude, I
1:05:34Speaker 2would like, I've said it before, I would not have believed it. If she tried to explain it to me if I wasn't there, I would not have believed what I saw. And I did research right after because I was like, holy shit.
1:05:43Speaker 2And like if you're
1:05:45Speaker 2throat starts to feel like it's closing up, you go to the hospital. Yeah. Because that's not. Yeah, the airway is not something to So mess
1:05:52Speaker 2do it. There's no coming back. I would say my opinion, you give me yours. I wouldn't probably do the test since you went to the ER. I don't, I don't, I am super 50 50 if it was a Tesla because of the hour. And
1:06:05Speaker 3it's just not likely an hour. And I don't know how long you've been doing these things, but like, have you taken any of these other ones before?
1:06:12Speaker 3Right? Maybe it's maybe allergic to I mean, people can just be randomly allergic. People can be allergic to sunlight. You can someone can be allergic to clomiphene,
1:06:19Speaker 3but if you're allergic to it, it would have hit you the 1st time you took it. So what's the 1st Any of these things was it for the 1st time?
1:06:26Speaker 3Were they but but they would work,
1:06:28Speaker 3like, fast, like, anaphylactic shock would have to You
1:06:33Speaker 3can I would I mean, dude, that's honestly that's concerning? It's scary. You can totally go to, an allergist
1:06:39Speaker 3that they do that pinprick panel on you,
1:06:42Speaker 3and they go, alright. What are you allergic to? And then they see they go, alright. What did you react to? It's probably worth it, dude, and be completely honest with them about what you took, what you're taking.
1:06:54Speaker 3Do that.
1:06:55Speaker 3I'm gonna do a little research, dude, because, like, you don't wanna be just scared of some things that's your whole life and and you figure out that it's because you ate some a peanut butter sandwich
1:07:04Speaker 3or something, you know, at the same time and that's the actual culprit. And now you just don't take anything out, any peptides.
1:07:11Speaker 2Right?
1:07:12Speaker 2Getting a brilliant answer. All right. Yeah. All right. Yo fellas, new follower here. I'm 34 years old and have been dealing with chronic coughs since 2013.
1:07:20Speaker 2The doctor's been dicking me around. For example, I never had any reflux symptoms and the scope came back clear, but they still put me on a PPI,
1:07:30Speaker 2saying it was causing my cough. Made the switch to Tera Health acid relief
1:07:36Speaker 23 months ago to get off the PPI. My wife seen something at the doctor's office today that it could be
1:07:43Speaker 2a MAC lung infection. It may say a lung infection
1:07:47Speaker 2causing chronic cough and fatigue instead of taking 3 antibiotics for at least a year. What peptide would be the best to use in this case already on BPC and TB?
1:07:59Speaker 2That's crazy. I've had a cough too, dude.
1:08:02Speaker 2And the crazy part is, I'm doing it right now, it sucks.
1:08:06Speaker 2I know it's gut. And the reason I know it is, you know, Doctor. Scott has done a deep blood work and
1:08:13Speaker 2a stool test, and I've had another doctor that I respect say the same thing. And he didn't know anything about me saying anything. He just heard the cough and said, Oh, that's a gut. And I'm like, that made me feel good. So,
1:08:27Speaker 2I'm doing a lot of work on my gut. It's just, it sucks. But in regards to the peptide,
1:08:32Speaker 2had Paul in here and it's, I think it's, I'm doing this currently. It's TA-1MQ
1:08:37Speaker 2I'm going to say you're going run it for about a month, 40 days maybe. And then you're going to throw in the KPV
1:08:43Speaker 2the whole time. KPV is great. And then you're going to run into LL-374
1:08:47Speaker 250 days and you're going to do 130
1:08:52Speaker 2of LL-thirty 7
1:08:54Speaker 2for 40 days. And then 10 days after that VIP
1:08:58Speaker 2and that's the protocol should help. I'm in the middle of that. I'm about to run to the LL-thirty 7 when we get back on our trip in a few days and I will keep you posted as I progress with that too, but I have the cough.
1:09:11Speaker 2Antibiotics
1:09:12Speaker 2suck. I am a huge, I think they mess up our gut. I've taken in the past a lot of them, and I think that has been the culprit for myself. And,
1:09:23Speaker 2know, we're going to have Doctor. Scott on here again soon because he,
1:09:27Speaker 2know, there's a lot of people listen to this podcast and have gone to him since. He's, I want him to give a really bird's eye view of what he's seen in the stool tests and in the blood work because he's done a lot And
1:09:38Speaker 2I would like him to kind of break that down of what he's seeing. And he's just seeing a lot of gut problems, man. He's my wife. I think 0.5 our office is seeing him.
1:09:47Speaker 2So I think it's your gut,
1:09:49Speaker 2you know, so try that protocol
1:09:51Speaker 2and I'd get off the antibiotics dude. Antibiotics suck. They do nothing. If you're dying, get on antibiotics. Other than that, don't take them. Yeah, I 2nd that. If you wanna message in and like ask us,
1:10:01Speaker 3like slower
1:10:03Speaker 3that protocol,
1:10:05Speaker 3please do. Cool. We got 2 more. Alright. Recently started listening to your podcast and I love the info. Super informative. Recently started Reta about 3 weeks ago. Context, I'm 32 of 3 kids and a year postpartum from my 3rd.
1:10:18Speaker 3Started at 170,
1:10:20Speaker 367
1:10:21Speaker 3pounds with a goal weight of 145
1:10:23Speaker 3to 150. Wait, what? Oh, yeah. Never mind. I'm down 4 to 5 pounds
1:10:30Speaker 3and just went up to 1 MEG a week.
1:10:34Speaker 3I weight train 3 to 4 times a week consistently. Also getting into running 1 or 2 days a week for heart health because I'm a cardiology APRN.
1:10:43Speaker 3So
1:10:44Speaker 3gotta take care of that.
1:10:46Speaker 3Yep. I've been thinking of introducing Tesa Naidell, burn stubborn postpartum
1:10:51Speaker 3belly fat. Have heard mixed reviews on Tesa for women thoughts and doses to start out. Oh yeah.
1:10:58Speaker 3I think cardiology APRN is something, something registered nurse.
1:11:03Speaker 3So you
1:11:04Speaker 3should be walking the walk good for you, right? There's nothing worse than like the health
1:11:09Speaker 3director being 3 50 pounds and telling everybody how to be healthy, right? Like-
1:11:15Speaker 2When I was doing the fitness stuff,
1:11:17Speaker 2the people would say, well, my doctor said this, I said, let me ask you a question. This is a real question. Is your doctor in shape? No.
1:11:24Speaker 2Why is he doing it then?
1:11:26Speaker 2Know what I mean?
1:11:27Speaker 3Change doctors. So like, good for you. That's cool. So
1:11:31Speaker 3I think maybe my prior answer about Tesamorelin
1:11:35Speaker 3and Retta might answer your question.
1:11:38Speaker 3I think that it's a great thing to do.
1:11:42Speaker 3I have no I absolutely think you should start Tesamorelin.
1:11:46Speaker 3I don't know where I've heard mixed reviews on Tesamorelin.
1:11:49Speaker 3I see, I think like the Tesa 10 mg, 3 mg blend,
1:11:53Speaker 3you know, Tesa Ipah,
1:11:54Speaker 310 mgs to 3 mgs of Ipah, is it maybe a good good point for you starting I'd start off. So like, look,
1:12:02Speaker 3the 1 thing that we see is
1:12:05Speaker 3growth hormones increase too high levels, go too high, too fast, people start to retain water, especially women.
1:12:13Speaker 3Start off low, man. Start off at, you know, I think low as 500 micrograms
1:12:18Speaker 3of Tessa
1:12:20Speaker 3daily.
1:12:20Speaker 3If you want to be more conservative, start with 2 50 micrograms.
1:12:25Speaker 3Do that for a week or 2 and slowly titrate yourself up.
1:12:30Speaker 3And you may end, depends on where you end. I don't know. That's up to you, but I'd be looking to end be a sweet spot somewhere between 1 milli 0.5 of a milligram and 1 mg of Tesamorelin daily.
1:12:41Speaker 3My previous answer
1:12:43Speaker 3kind of answered the timing Yeah. Question.
1:12:47Speaker 3But yeah, do it and good for you. I guarantee with the amount of activity you do and your knowledge, that's going to kick ass and work really well. 0 Yeah. I'm gonna answer a little bit differently.
1:12:57Speaker 2I think that the key here is what you said right in the beginning was recently started Retta about 3 weeks ago. I would say give it some time, man. Like you didn't gain any all this weight at 1st, so why don't you give the Retta some time to kind of kick into 5th gear? I think that the Testa is great. I think you should add it, but maybe wait a little bit because of that. And, then I would add on some AOD on top of the Tesa when you do do it, but let the Reddit, like, let the Reddit, you're not even in 2nd gear yet, man. You've done it for 3 weeks. Well, also you just increased to 1 mg of Reddit weekly. That's nothing. That's like, what's our clinical start dose? 2 Mish or 2.5? And like, you're not, you just increase to 0.5 of the starting dose. Right. So
1:13:36Speaker 2if you do that for like, let's try like 2 months and kind of maybe go up a little bit and Retta's going to burn that fat off.
1:13:42Speaker 2I mean, cause the objective is when we want to feel great and we love peptides, duh, but
1:13:47Speaker 2we also
1:13:49Speaker 2love the foundation of a healthy human, which is not having to take
1:13:54Speaker 2red stuff.
1:13:56Speaker 2So like you are 32, if you were like 45, it might be a different answer, but I think you give the RET to do what it do. And maybe increase the dose a little bit. Yeah. Then
1:14:06Speaker 2add that stuff in because you're gonna see results, you're gonna want to add in more peptides and maybe you don't need the test, maybe you try some SS-thirty 1 or something different, NAD.
1:14:14Speaker 2So anyways, that was my answer. Went a little bit different. That was very good. Last 1, I meant to me. Yeah. All right. I'm take this home because we gotta get on a plane.
1:14:22Speaker 2Hello, 64
1:14:23Speaker 2kg
1:14:24Speaker 2female here. I weight trained 5 times per week,
1:14:29Speaker 2have a decent amount of muscle, but still not
1:14:32Speaker 2as lean as I would like, especially around my stomach and arms and legs. I find food noise and overeating,
1:14:39Speaker 2especially when I'm eating my non meal prepped tracked meals,
1:14:44Speaker 2family meals, dinners out, etcetera. I'm going to start Retta, but I'm not sure on the dosage as,
1:14:50Speaker 2and also long term plan. I don't want to be on it forever and I'm scared about weaning off gaining all the weight back. I don't want to lose a lot of weight as my frame is still relatively small. I want to keep my muscle and I don't want to know. I don't want people
1:15:05Speaker 2to notice I'm on peptides.
1:15:08Speaker 2I just want to lean out a little bit to be more confident in my clothes at the gym. Thanks so much for your podcast.
1:15:15Speaker 2It's awesome.
1:15:16Speaker 2Love it. Let me close this up. Yeah, go ahead. Don't
1:15:20Speaker 2know if Will would answer this the same,
1:15:23Speaker 2but
1:15:25Speaker 2I'm be direct with you. I'm sorry, it's me.
1:15:28Speaker 2If you have to hide anything, don't think you should do it. You seem a little stressed about it, so give this some time. Maybe you
1:15:34Speaker 2can accomplish your goal by just being old school and not having to take anything.
1:15:40Speaker 2The discipline
1:15:42Speaker 2works.
1:15:43Speaker 2Now you have a problem with discipline, you said that, but
1:15:47Speaker 2discipline is empowering.
1:15:49Speaker 2That's why I was just telling you about a couple of questions back, when I'm off my discipline, I don't like it. I like to be focused and my best version and discipline is that key to it.
1:15:59Speaker 2So you can achieve it. But again, I think if you have to hide it, I don't think you should take it. Because, you know, when we have people all the time, don't tell anybody I want to sell Sean,
1:16:08Speaker 2me that
1:16:09Speaker 2You don't deserve this. You know what I mean? Like, if you're going to hide stuff, don't hide anything, man. That's a form of lying and that's, I just don't like that. So I hope that that doesn't offend you because I'm just being real with you.
1:16:21Speaker 2Because you seem a little, little timid about it. I would give it some time. Go old school 1st. Retta will always be here. And if you're ready to tell people you're on Retta, maybe take the Retta. We'll tell you the dosage then. Yep. I'd
1:16:33Speaker 3be a 2nd to everything there. Here's the thing, like, honestly, the the worry about, oh, it'll stop and all the weight comes gaining back is like What if? What if? What if? If you're
1:16:45Speaker 3if you do it completely ass backwards wrong, that will happen, but, like, that's manageable. Yeah. I can tell you that it's totally manageable. It's like people doing, I don't know, doing steroids, like, oh, steroids are killing me. Yeah, but if you do testosterone or testosterone, like, the right way and not just be a complete dumbass about it, like, you can do it safely. Yeah. So same thing with Retta, like, if you so choose,
1:17:07Speaker 3you can just be very you can be smart on how you get off of it, and it will not come all the way. It won't come rushing back. Brilliance
1:17:14Speaker 3of Beretta is it's not you can you can you keep your appetite. You keep your muscle. You keep eating.
1:17:20Speaker 3Right? And so, and if you do start, just start ultra low. Yeah. Right?
1:17:26Speaker 3Start ultra low. And when it's time to wean off, literally wean off, you know, just stop.
1:17:32Speaker 3Okay. And if you'd never even go really high, then that weight gain, it can, like the, the Reta is like, is the training wheels. It is not the bicycle, right? The bicycle
1:17:42Speaker 3is your workout and your discipline and your food. Right?
1:17:47Speaker 3It's all the real things that we always talk about, right?
1:17:50Speaker 3Reddit is just a little training wheel thing. Gotta ease that along and to get you over some humps and get you there and use it as such.
1:17:58Speaker 3But I also agree
1:17:59Speaker 2either.
1:18:01Speaker 3It. Tell people. I mean, own it. Don't hide it and own it. Everyone's on Retta. Anyway,
1:18:06Speaker 3the people you're probably hiding it from or hiding it from you. Don't
1:18:10Speaker 2tell her. Don't tell her. There's the 1, the 1 person that's admitting it. They're like, yep, he's, everybody's on it.
1:18:16Speaker 3Like, I actually looked at the stat the other day we were talking about. So 24 percent of the population in West Virginia is on a GLP-one. That's including children?
1:18:25Speaker 2Oh, man.
1:18:26Speaker 3I mean, children aren't on it, but that that that that's statistic. Oh, that's in that statistic. They're included in the 20, so like, right. So if we look at that, you know, I don't know what the population of children is, but maybe 30%
1:18:38Speaker 3of the total population is a child. And so therefore
1:18:42Speaker 3that 25% now probably goes up to 50% of everybody. And now it's West Virginia. We talked about this as a follow-up to, think, you know, I said that
1:18:49Speaker 3that's,
1:18:51Speaker 3yeah. But everybody
1:18:53Speaker 3is on the damn jail pure once.
1:18:55Speaker 3It depends on where you're going to judge you. Is going to judge you. We're, we had
1:18:59Speaker 32 guys that are ripped. They're on Reddit. It's amazing compounding like, and fuck. If you got some religious thing, I don't know. You know, we don't know you, but like,
1:19:09Speaker 3you're right. I guarantee you that you're lying to people and they're lying back to you. Yeah.
1:19:14Speaker 3Tell somebody with balls to be like, you know just need some honest friends. I'm on the hunts too. And everybody's like, I am too. It's the most amazing thing. And then everybody enlightens and everything gets better and now everybody's happy. Tiffany's on runner too, honey.
1:19:26Speaker 2No shit. Yeah.
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