Peptide Q&A #46 – Peptide Legalities, Carnivore on Reta, Sleep Quality & Histamine Reactions Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-46-peptide-legalities-carnivore-on-reta-sleep-quality-histamine-reac/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade Electrolytes, 0:03 Speaker 0: 0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes. 0:15 Speaker 3: I get so many headaches every month. 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Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. 1:07 Speaker 2: Why wait? Ask your doctor. Visit botoxchronicmigraine.com 1:11 Speaker 2: or call 18044 1:14 Speaker 2: to learn more. 1:24 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way, Mr. William T. Haas, like always. What's up? What's up, man? We have 1:35 Speaker 4: a busy day. 3:29 Speaker 4: Mason would 3:30 Speaker 5: be in the bubble. The stewardess. Everybody would be all, put him in the bubble. Put him in the bubble. It's a good idea. I've often thought when I have a kid, like these soundproofing things that we have here, just make a closet. Now, guys, I'm not serious about this, but 3:42 Speaker 5: like soundproof the closet for kids being crazy. And like, it also where they can't hurt and it's all padded, 3:48 Speaker 5: just shut up and lock you in there and you can't now talk to us and nobody can hear you and you can't hurt yourself. Padded her back When 3:57 Speaker 4: my sons are crying, like for no reason, like if they hurt themselves, let's cry. Like 4:02 Speaker 4: everybody knows my stance. I'm crying and I'm this dad and I'm trying to mold them into men. Like, I go, listen, this is the no crying section. You are allowed to cry if you feel like you need to cry. And that's your room. You go in there, we're gonna shut the door. You cry it out and they usually stop crying. That's fucking my cycle. You're so hard. I'm like, I'm like, listen, like he's screaming at the top of his lungs. Either I throw him on the roof. 4:26 Speaker 5: I'm 4:26 Speaker 5: joking people obviously again, but like 4:29 Speaker 5: Speaking of, we, I went to the little league night day at Angel Stadium on Sunday. So we got there at 8AM to tailgate for a 1PM game. 4:40 Speaker 5: The 4:42 Speaker 5: kids had fun, but it's funny. So we sat down in the stadium. 1st of all, we're in, like, the whining sun. 4:47 Speaker 5: Ugh. About 2 minutes after we sat down, the nice the ushers like, hey, 4:52 Speaker 5: you know, you're not happy. You can, there's plenty of seats up here in the shade. Feel free to ask, tell, are you with everybody? Just tell everybody that y'all can be like, thank you. Oh, dude. Because I'm leaving in 5 minutes. But- Yeah. They had, she goes, Oh yeah, also, can you tell the kids, like, they gotta keep their shirts on? And I was like, Yeah, yeah. 5:09 Speaker 5: But she goes, So we've had just some kids, it's been a thing now. They're interested in kids take their shirts off and like 5:15 Speaker 5: wave it around their head like a helicopter. And they, 5:19 Speaker 5: but she's like, Don't have them do that, but we have a section for the no shirted kids over there. Rebels are across the stadium, literally. And the coach took river and like 2 other kids. He's like, I'm going to take them to the no shirt section. 5:33 Speaker 5: That's a section where the kids will be chatted soon up there. Yeah, exactly. Yes. So those kids up in the nosebleeds, all the nether shirts on, just running off, being crazy. Oh man, that's funny. It's kind of funny. 5:44 Speaker 4: Well, that's cool. You gotta do that, man. That's such important. So that's that? 5:49 Speaker 5: No, but I looked for Dave Singh and I couldn't find him because I didn't, I guess I didn't look hard enough. But we have a good friend who just Oh, he's working? Yeah, cool. So he got approved. 5:58 Speaker 5: He owns a coffee stand, so he's been doing his coffee. What's the name of it? 6:02 Speaker 5: Rise espresso bar. Everybody, there's a shout out, Dave. 6:06 Speaker 5: He had, he's been doing the OC Fair, so he's got a little trailer and he's set up so for all all the events at 6:13 Speaker 5: the fairgrounds, 6:14 Speaker 5: but then he got a tryout to do it at Angel Stadium. 6:17 Speaker 5: And it did and it did it. And he passed the tryout. They did say 1 of his best things are cookies. As you know, he's got these like 0.5 pound cookies. 6:26 Speaker 4: But 6:27 Speaker 5: Angel Stadium basically said, thanks. You did great. You're in. You can't sell cookies. We got some We already got a cookie guy. Like, you can't be the cookie guy. He's like, well, whatever. But basically, what comes along with that is 6:41 Speaker 5: you have to be there for every event that takes place in Angel Stadium. Brutal. So you can't just be like, cool. You can come to the games that you want to come to. Right? No calling it sick. If you there's no calling it sick. So he was there, I'm sure. And any other event that's an Angel Stadium, but I was, you know, toting around a bunch of kids and- I didn't have time. Coffee wasn't on your mind. I gotta find, I gotta cool story about that. So Dave and I, 7:03 Speaker 4: he was a kickboxing coach. So Dave did. And I used to work out with Dave Saturdays. 7:07 Speaker 4: We'd we'd meet up and we'd, I met him at the gym and his dad was sober and like, we just hit it off. Love Dave, just kindest guy in the world. He's like my brother. I freaking loved him from right away. 7:18 Speaker 4: Every Saturday he and I would lift. And, as 7:20 Speaker 4: he was going through a transition from not going to do that anymore, he didn't know what he was going to do. I was just, the mortgage industry had dried up and we were both in that limbo stage. What are we going to do? Remember we had sat down with Brett. We were, we were talking through all that stuff because we were really like digging into and we both started our businesses right at the same time. Did the fitness stuff. He did the coffee thing and we were talking about this the other day and like where we're both at now. We were like, both all like nervous. Like what are we going to do? You know, and now like, but the point of that is 7:49 Speaker 4: in between though is hard ass work, dude. We both pay, but people see this part. They're like, oh, you must nice 7:56 Speaker 5: and be lucky. Want this part too? Want me to share mere money? Here's the must be a nice part that you got to talk about too because it's 16 hour days of no sleep. No doubt. You know what mean? And the stress at all times. 8:07 Speaker 5: That's a cool story. So now he's, he's He's doing well. He's on his way to doing well. He's just gotta clean up his, like, business, like, the books and stuff because he's Hire somebody. Yeah. 8:17 Speaker 5: Hire somebody. 8:20 Speaker 5: But 8:21 Speaker 5: love him. Another friend, I'm wearing his shirt. It says, eat, pray left. And so our other friend just started this company. 8:28 Speaker 5: They makes hats that say, what does the hat say? I think it says that. So, 8:36 Speaker 5: but 8:38 Speaker 5: come 8:39 Speaker 5: on. I just wore it like the last 2 days, 8:42 Speaker 5: father figure. 8:45 Speaker 5: They say father figure. And he just became a dad. And he just became a dad and he's always wanted to for long time. They've been trying to be for a long time. They've given up, they gave up at 1 point. Yeah. What sucks 8:56 Speaker 5: and then retried and it happened. But so I'm here repping his clothes and 9:02 Speaker 5: JD doesn't like them, but I kind of liked these big shirts and I actually am very impressed with- I'd cut the sleeves- 9:07 Speaker 5: cut the sleeves, bro. Yeah, he did. Yeah. He's 9:10 Speaker 5: like, I know. Yeah. 9:13 Speaker 4: So, yeah, cool. Everybody go check this out. I think- I don't even know what the- We'll put it down at the bottom. Yeah, we can put it down. So same by you. And we also want to tell everybody for school, join school. It's people are loving it. We're continuing to put amazing stuff on there. And we are also, 9:30 Speaker 4: because a lot of people have asked, we have just started a weekly 9:34 Speaker 4: newsletter 9:36 Speaker 4: that 9:37 Speaker 4: is ready to drop and there'll be a link below where you can sign up for that. And there's gonna be a lot of information on that. So a lot of stuff brewing, 9:45 Speaker 4: people keep asking for things and we try to do our best to provide them 9:49 Speaker 4: at the pace that we can provide them. We're still going to do the meetup because we get asked literally daily. 9:55 Speaker 4: Pedro was just talking about people at the gym. When is it? It's like, we're doing it. Yeah, so that's coming. 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So for Friday, we're going to have a locals 10:43 Speaker 4: discount for people to actually come in to 10:46 Speaker 4: the business 10:47 Speaker 5: and get a locals discount. We have a discount, any like, we have some like free, some swag do we give out and like, just to say hi and 10:55 Speaker 5: you know, nothing really 10:57 Speaker 5: like, it's not like a big planned event or anything folks. Yeah. But if you like what we do and you're 11:03 Speaker 4: in Orange County and you wanted to come by and see 11:06 Speaker 4: the team, get some stuff. And we are trying to cultivate that type of people. Want to like 11:11 Speaker 4: meet the people. It's 11:13 Speaker 4: a big part of just a businessman. 11:15 Speaker 4: It's old 11:16 Speaker 4: school stuff. We pride ourselves in trying to say we're from the old school, 11:21 Speaker 4: someone's hand and it's opinion. It's just as good as signature. 11:24 Speaker 5: Knowing your neighbors, helping your neighbors, 11:27 Speaker 5: right? Like supporting local businesses. 11:30 Speaker 5: This small business is the lifeblood of this country by the way. 11:35 Speaker 5: We all should do our parts to yes. Help each other out. 11:40 Speaker 5: Like my friend started this company and 11:43 Speaker 5: he sent us, he gave us a shirt and a couple of hats. And then I went and bought a couple more shirts. 11:49 Speaker 5: Didn't ask for a discount. Didn't ask for No, I haven't even told him yet that I bought them. 11:54 Speaker 4: I've seen people that order from us that I know. And I'm like, that dude, and then I text them and say, here's a discount code because bro, that's cool. That is cool. You know, I mean, not to knock people that ask for a discount, but people ask for a discount, but like the people that just do it because they want to support. Yeah. That is very cool. That is style. That's great. It's good stuff. Well, cool. Let's kick us off. We've got the Q and A and then we are hitting a plane. 1 Yes. Let's do it. 1. What's up fellas. Thank you for all you guys are doing. The world needed you guys. 12:23 Speaker 5: I have an odd question that hopefully you can For the legal side of peptide world, I know a few police officers in hot water with their agencies over peptides, 12:32 Speaker 5: or potential sales of peptides. Probably a big difference in the police's mind. Do you all know what 12:40 Speaker 5: what the 12:41 Speaker 5: legalities behind 12:43 Speaker 5: it here in California is or a potential crime? 12:47 Speaker 5: Lap it low. Thank you again. Can't wait for the next peptide of the week. Right. That's a unique 1. That's a 1st It's unique question. It's a good question. So 1st of all, 12:57 Speaker 5: the peptides operate in definitely a gray space that's kind of tightening pretty fast. But 13:03 Speaker 5: for a police officer, 13:06 Speaker 5: just realize if you're a police officer, right, you also despite what things are legal and not legal, you probably have an elevated code of conduct 13:15 Speaker 5: that you need to look into that we can't that I have no idea what that is. But usually like, just because something's legal doesn't necessarily mean it's okay for a police officer to do. I would watch yourself. 13:26 Speaker 5: I think that, 13:28 Speaker 5: and so in the, and they even, I even looked this up and like sometimes they'll treat 13:32 Speaker 5: un FDA approved drugs that are not illegal, right, as like controlled substances 13:38 Speaker 5: as a police officer. So just watch yours breed your own Yeah. Maybe like dude, I don't know. Seriously, it's not worth none of this stuff, it's not worth losing your badge or career over. That's for damn sure. Now we know intimately a company that 13:54 Speaker 5: are all firefighters, 13:56 Speaker 5: and they have a peptide business 13:59 Speaker 5: that sells only to firefighters. 14:03 Speaker 5: And I think that that's great 14:05 Speaker 5: shit. Getting our public servants who need their bodies to recover, right, and to work better, 14:11 Speaker 5: all the support they can possibly get plus putting some extra money in their pocket, plus giving them all discounts. Like I think that's awesome, but I'm sure there's some lawyers, some asshole out there that 14:21 Speaker 5: can find a way to profit off of this and to screw them over. Absolutely. Which is unfortunate. 14:26 Speaker 5: But 14:27 Speaker 5: so the police officer, dude, I know that that's happening in the fire department. Now they need to make sure, you know, I'm sure they know the rules and they're very out and open. They're not doing this. Not 14:36 Speaker 5: like, Hey dude, Ruth is like toolbox here. Want to buy some peptides? This is a business that they have reps and firehouses. 14:44 Speaker 5: So that's happening. I don't know about the police, 14:47 Speaker 5: but that's all I can say. I know that, like, research 14:51 Speaker 5: only use, like, to sell peptides, right, the ones that are not FDA approved, okay, all the peptides so the FDA approved ones are 15:00 Speaker 5: all the GLP or Ozempic, 15:03 Speaker 5: right, or semaglutide, 15:05 Speaker 5: tirzepatide. God, we don't even deal with these things. I forget the names. Seriously. 15:09 Speaker 5: We're those. Tirzepatide. 15:11 Speaker 5: Right. Tesamorelin, 15:13 Speaker 5: SS-thirty 15:13 Speaker 5: 1 is now FDA approved. There's 15:17 Speaker 5: a few more that are, but 15:20 Speaker 5: those ones cannot be essentially, 15:23 Speaker 5: like, cannot be sold without a prescription. Okay? All the other ones that are not FDA approved can be sold, but they cannot be sold for human consumption. They need to be like research use only. So whoever's selling it, you cannot 15:37 Speaker 5: elude to, hey, you should you should buy this because you're going to use it or how to use it, etcetera. You're selling it and saying, hey, this is for you to do some home research and 15:48 Speaker 5: my hand, like whatever you want to do to do with it. It's great. That's 15:53 Speaker 5: the but that doesn't really apply or affect this police officer. I think you need to check out what your own codes are, especially selling it. Yeah. 16:01 Speaker 5: There's a difference there. Like, Winstraw, for example, anabolic steroid, totally okay to possess and take 16:07 Speaker 5: unless you're a Olympic unless you're a professional athlete competing. Right. But also not okay to sell. 16:14 Speaker 5: So you're okay to buy it and use it, but you can't sell. 16:20 Speaker 5: That's illegal, 16:22 Speaker 5: like illegal, illegal. 16:24 Speaker 5: You know, 16:25 Speaker 5: but it's not illegal. The actual substance isn't illegal in itself. Whatever I 16:30 Speaker 4: mean, I would think that there's a big difference of, are they selling the peptides? Are they taking the peptides now? I think it really boils down to the department policy. I don't know if there's, 16:39 Speaker 4: would imagine the police departments have the same policies, but probably not. Don't think I bet. So like we had a gal that a police officer that came on 1 of my other podcasts and she had to get clearance and clearance and clearance, which was intelligent on her behalf. 16:53 Speaker 4: I felt that 16:55 Speaker 4: at 1 point to be pretty like, come on dude, but like it's her job. Right? And so I totally got it. 17:01 Speaker 4: Then they cleared her. But if 17:04 Speaker 5: she didn't get cleared and she's on, you know, a podcast talking about whatever pepcats and stuff, you know, she can get in trouble. Well, right. I think it's for sure a lot of, especially as far as the use goes, it's like a don't ask, don't tell. Right? Like what 17:16 Speaker 5: are they going do? Like proactively test people for peptides? No. But 17:21 Speaker 5: so if you're taking them just like- You find a needle over your 17:24 Speaker 4: locker and it works. 17:26 Speaker 5: Don't do that because you cannot tell them. I mean, anyway, I won't even Yeah. 17:31 Speaker 4: Are great, man. Yeah. We all know what they're for, but you can't sell them for human consumption. They have to be for research. 17:37 Speaker 4: Sell them as research. What do you do with the research? Up to you. You're an adult, act like it. 17:42 Speaker 5: That's it. And research. Don't sell them if you're a cop. Don't sell them openly, 17:48 Speaker 5: I don't know. And be careful what you are selling to dude. Like just cause you can, you know, found some way to get something really cheap from China, like, that's not good enough to sell. 18:00 Speaker 4: Dude, everybody's talking about that. These days are not Tesamorelin, You need to 18:05 Speaker 5: yeah. 18:06 Speaker 5: Okay. 18:08 Speaker 4: Good. You got that. Number 2. Hey, JD and Will. I've been seeing discussion lately around Tesamorelin 18:13 Speaker 4: in the morning when also running Retta, 18:16 Speaker 4: mainly because gastric emptying is slowed in the typical 3 to 4 hour fasting window before bed can be tough to manage 18:23 Speaker 4: consistently. 18:24 Speaker 4: Do you recommend switching Tessa to the morning in that situation? 18:29 Speaker 4: If so, how long should you wait to eat after for best effectiveness? 18:34 Speaker 4: Also, 18:35 Speaker 4: on 1 of the recent podcasts with Paul, 18:38 Speaker 4: I noticed the recommended, 18:40 Speaker 4: tested dosing sounded quite a bit lower than the common 2 mgs protocol. 18:46 Speaker 4: Has your thinking shifted on optimal dosing when combined with Retta? 18:51 Speaker 4: Just trying to understand the approach is actually best from both an effective and practicality 18:57 Speaker 5: standpoint. Great question. Yeah, that's a good question. 19:00 Speaker 4: He's obviously thought through that and probably done some research, but that's a great question. And I think I ought to correct you that 19:07 Speaker 5: okay. So I just I just we're gonna post something to school that's very similar and kind of is a is my I've done a bunch of research on this and a well thought out answer to this and encompassing some other things, but basically on Tesa and Retta, which is a freaking awesome combination. 19:24 Speaker 5: But the dosing times do matter. And I will tell you that I might just say something that kind of contradicts 19:31 Speaker 5: what we have talked about in the past and because it's- It's all gross. It's 19:35 Speaker 5: gross. There's new information. But the 1st thing is you said that, so the 2 mg, we have never ever, ever, ever said to take 2 mg of Tesamorelin, 19:45 Speaker 5: ever. Now the FDA, I'm reading this is literally from the FDA approved, approved dosing, 19:50 Speaker 5: right, for Tesamorelin, 19:53 Speaker 5: 2 mg, 19:54 Speaker 5: right? And this is only, but only for 19:58 Speaker 5: HIV associated lipodystrophy, 20:00 Speaker 5: right? Excess visceral fat in the HIV patients. 20:04 Speaker 5: And 20:05 Speaker 5: because that will the medication they're taking, it will freeze and it ultimately can be fatal. So 20:11 Speaker 5: they, in this study, 20:14 Speaker 5: what they're trying to do is have the patient not die from this 20:18 Speaker 5: lipodystrophy. 20:19 Speaker 5: So they're throwing everything at it. Who cares about the other side effects that 2 mg of Tesamorelin are going to produce? 20:27 Speaker 5: Only thing that's important is saving this patient's life. 20:30 Speaker 5: I don't care if they look bad or bloated or blah, blah, blah. Right? But they are going to fix this problem. So that 2 mg that you've heard, we've never said it. And I 20:41 Speaker 5: don't think that's appropriate for the normal person who wants to 20:45 Speaker 5: trim up and have their growth hormone boosted a bit. Right? I think so. Still stand by the starting point and 0.5 of a milligram 20:53 Speaker 5: bump up to a full milligram. Hire a nap, man. You better be a special person 20:58 Speaker 5: who can take that and not have a bunch of water retention. 21:03 Speaker 5: But here is the answer for the Tesamorelin. 21:05 Speaker 5: Okay. Have normally 21:08 Speaker 5: Tesamorelin 21:09 Speaker 5: works is blunted. K? It's by by insulin in your body. Okay? So you do not want 21:16 Speaker 4: Low energy, unfocused, 21:18 Speaker 4: foggy, 21:19 Speaker 4: you might be dehydrated. Gatorade 21:22 Speaker 4: 0 powders have been scientifically designed to help improve hydration balance in the body with a clinically proven electrolyte blend and no artificial colors or flavors. Great tasting hydration no matter where you're going. Shop now online or at retailers nationwide. 21:36 Speaker 4: Gatorade hydrates better than water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration. 21:42 Speaker 3: Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. I get so many headaches every month. It could be chronic migraine 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more. Botox on a botulinum toxin A prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those who have 14 or fewer headache days a month. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. 22:38 Speaker 2: Why wait? Ask your doctor. Visit botoxchronicmigraine.com 22:42 Speaker 2: or call one-eight hundred-44Botox 22:44 Speaker 5: to learn more. And a whole bunch of insulin occurring, your blood full of insulin, 22:49 Speaker 5: at the same time taking Tesamorelin, 22:51 Speaker 5: that pathway will really blunt the growth hormonal effects of Tesamorelin. 22:56 Speaker 5: Reda, 22:58 Speaker 5: it's GLP-one 22:59 Speaker 5: agonism, right? It's got a really high GLP-one agonism higher than semaglutide. 23:04 Speaker 5: Well, about equal to semaglutide, way higher than tirzepatide. 23:08 Speaker 5: What that does is part of it is 23:10 Speaker 5: it tells your body, Hey, there's a bunch of sugar and we just ate a big meal, which it really didn't. Our bodies then produces pushes a whole bunch of insulin out. Okay? So when we're taking Retta, your body's you're pushing a bunch of insulin into your body. Yeah. So, 23:26 Speaker 5: and Tesamorelin isn't gonna work very well with a bunch of insulin. 23:30 Speaker 5: So the goal here is to separate those as much as possible. Now, unfortunately GLP-one is a 5 day activated, right, thing like, so there's 23:39 Speaker 5: no fully getting away from the Reta, but 23:43 Speaker 5: that negation 23:44 Speaker 5: isn't 23:45 Speaker 5: even at all equal to the plus of the synergy of putting them together. So here's the quick easy recommendation is we have always said take Tesamorelin at night. Okay? Why that is what it's FDA approved to take at night. Why? Because that links up to your circadian rhythm of when our biggest natural growth hormone pulses is at night. And we're trying to like boost that up. 24:06 Speaker 5: We've said, take it at night, 24:09 Speaker 5: but also, 24:12 Speaker 5: also the thing is there's that, 24:15 Speaker 5: but you've eaten all day usually. Okay. Even if you don't eat 2 hours before, you're still got a little bit of insulin going down. Right. It is better to take Tesamorelin 24:24 Speaker 5: if taking Retta in 24:27 Speaker 5: the morning time after an 8 hour fast and still fasted. 24:30 Speaker 5: That's more important than the circadian rhythm joining up and take Retta at nighttime. So the quick answer, the bottom line, Reta at night, 24:39 Speaker 5: Tessa, 24:40 Speaker 5: I think in the morning, that's what's contradictory. 24:43 Speaker 5: Right? But if you didn't take them, you want to separate them as much as possible. Right? Reta 3 times a week, Tessa daily, 24:51 Speaker 5: but on a fasted state on the Tesamorelin. Yeah. Don't eat either another hour after you take it. So 8 hour fast, because you're sleeping, take your dose of Tesa, don't eat for another hour, but also at that Reta 3 times a week at night, I'd go 2 hours before you eat that. Cause that's also heavily influenced by 25:08 Speaker 5: you being fasted or not. Yeah. Generally 2 hours ish, 2 hours ish. And then hour on the after. And it's not easy at night, dude. No, no. We all get hungry at night. Plus trying to go to sleep. 25:19 Speaker 5: Hungry is miserable. Totally. I can't do it. You can feel your ribs. 25:23 Speaker 5: So, 25:25 Speaker 5: I wrote this with more coherent thought for everybody. 25:29 Speaker 4: Well, with you that asked this like 6 months ago, it would have been a different answer because the 25:34 Speaker 4: peptides are obviously being more studied more and you have so many people taking them. You have so many, 25:41 Speaker 4: so 25:42 Speaker 4: much feedback. It's just, it's changing. It's evolving. It's great. So much research. Gosh, if you looked at some of the 1st podcasts that we did, we've changed from it because we have worked with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people since then. And again, we've said it a 100 times how something reads isn't exactly how it's going to actually play out in the human body because that's just science projects. 26:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, that I think that you nailed it. I wouldn't have answered that that way either. But as we've learned more 3 now, if you pull out Retta, it changes the whole Kind of, 26:13 Speaker 5: kind of changes the whole equation, 26:15 Speaker 5: but, but it's still 26:17 Speaker 5: that 1. I'm still, I kind of toss it, man. Try 26:21 Speaker 5: it. Like if I would do, if it's, if you pull Retta completely, 26:25 Speaker 5: that doesn't negate the argument 3 for taking Tessa, the more 26:29 Speaker 5: taking Tessa in a very extremely fast state. 26:32 Speaker 5: It's more important than it's circadian rhythm at nighttime. 26:36 Speaker 4: That's heavy. 26:38 Speaker 5: I always like taking Retta because at night everybody, by the way, like some people get nauseous from it still, right? Semaglutide, super, a lot of nausea, definitely take it right before you go to bed. So the worst nausea you're, you sleep through same thing, which is appetite. 26:53 Speaker 5: I would, I still have, you know, just kind of kept with that and said, take Retta at night because if there happens to be any nausea, you'll sleep it off. No problem. And I guess I would say, so then definitely I would, let's try not to take the test at night. Also it's those of you who've taken it, like it's still going to work. Yeah. Just you're 27:12 Speaker 5: going to amplify it a little bit more by taking it in the morning. But if you pull Retta completely, I don't know, man. I think that this is like- Still going, you're, you're, so you- Still might just be the better idea to take it in morning. Interesting. 27:25 Speaker 5: I don't know. Try both. It's try both. Like, here's the like, we're still studying. Like, scientists seems to be 27:31 Speaker 4: not exactly sure of what is- Well, yeah, you have to, like, also, like, I think the best thing is, how do you feel? That's how do you feel? Because that, I think like if some, if a man says, you need to take this much testosterone and you needed to take this much of this boy, that's like bro science, right? And that's going to give you a beacon. But like, how do you feel? Like if you feel great, 27:52 Speaker 4: then maybe you shouldn't touch it. You know what I mean? If you take the test at night and then you switch it, you do it for like maybe like 3 weeks each and switch it. How do you feel? Try that. Like that's, that's, that's the research 28:02 Speaker 4: you're actually doing research. Like, 28:04 Speaker 4: that's the stuff that I could tell you with my own experience with peptides, 28:09 Speaker 4: dude, it's radically changed 28:11 Speaker 4: with my own experience where I'm not even going take peptides at night. I've had so much sleeping problems and I don't, I'm doing so good in sleeping now that I'm not even going to mess with So like I take all my peptides in the morning and I don't take any at night. It's been great for me. Saying you're me, but like that, 28:27 Speaker 4: I don't want to take people when they sometimes when people take a read out, they don't sleep that well. It's just, it is what it is. So taking it at night, could mess that up. But anyways, you have to just try. It 28:37 Speaker 4: takes a while. We all want to maximize our peptides. They're not cheap. 28:42 Speaker 4: Right? So it's a great question, 28:45 Speaker 4: but once again, got to just try them both. See how you feel baby. But your answer is now Tessa morning. 28:52 Speaker 4: Nice. I like it. Yeah. Look, change. At. Yeah. 28:55 Speaker 4: So I got, I'm gonna say Tessa Ippel though. Am going say Tesa. I know. He's a Tesa Ipamorelin. Just 29:02 Speaker 5: don't think I just don't see why you would, just take Tesamorelin by itself. Yeah. 29:07 Speaker 5: Maximize it. If Ipamorelin's gonna just synergistically make it work that much better, like, what why not? Why not? And there's a blend now, so just- There's, yeah, 29:15 Speaker 5: different different configurations 29:17 Speaker 5: of blends too or take them if you wanna get your own perfect precise ratio, 29:21 Speaker 5: cool, by by Tessa and by Ipam and take them together. 29:26 Speaker 5: But there's also blends like a like a 5 mg, 5 mg, 10 mg, 3 mg, which I think is a good 10 mg, 3 mg, I think is a good ratio. That's basically like 3 parts, 29:36 Speaker 5: Tessa to 1 part Ipah. I think that's really good for women because the Ipah we know is too much HGH 29:45 Speaker 5: secretion 29:46 Speaker 5: can add can end up in a little bit too much water retention and especially for women because they're sensitive to everything and like a 3 to 1 ratio 29:56 Speaker 5: seems to really work well for a lot of people. You. Yeah. And Paul, I don't think ever said 2 mg of tests. I don't think we, we've never said 2 mg of Tesamore. Don't remember, man. We have done a lot of podcasts, 30:08 Speaker 5: so I don't know, 30:10 Speaker 5: But that is what the clinical team says. So I Get rolling, baby. Okay. I've been contemplating 30:14 Speaker 5: starting Clo, 30:16 Speaker 5: prior to abdominal surgery in August. 30:19 Speaker 5: Wondering, 1, is this a good 1 to start with? 2, if so, what other supplements like vitamins, collagen do you recommend pairing with it? 30:27 Speaker 5: If Cloak isn't the 1 to use before a surgery like this, what would you suggest in achieving optimal healing? 30:34 Speaker 4: You know where that's going? 30:35 Speaker 5: Think we're both gonna answer. Ahead. Yeah, give me what you're Well, 30:38 Speaker 4: I think we're going to answer the same, but let's see. 30:41 Speaker 4: I would, I like the GHK-3CU. 30:44 Speaker 4: And I'm thinking you're going with the CLO because of the KPV, because that's obviously great too. Like the reason I'm going say start with the Wolverine is just because you can take a shit ton out of it as you should. 30:54 Speaker 4: You know, we've talked about it on this podcast 30:56 Speaker 4: countless times that, my surgery, I took massive, massive, massive doses of the Wolverine. And I have no doubt in my mind that it expedited my healing, 31:06 Speaker 4: cut it down by at least 0.333, maybe 0.667, literally. Was in the gym 2 weeks later. So, 31:12 Speaker 4: yeah, so that's what I would, I would do the Wolverine now GHK-3s 31:16 Speaker 4: for collagen. Great added in there, but I personally would separate them 31:21 Speaker 4: because of that. Can take a ton. How much did you take? I don't know. How much can you afford? Like literally before 31:27 Speaker 4: the surgery, like start dosing about 3 weeks at least. And then when you have that surgery, just blast it. I mean, I was taking huge doses where even I was like, you sure bro? And 31:37 Speaker 4: he was right. 31:39 Speaker 4: So that's why you want to separate those. So I like the Clo idea. 31:43 Speaker 4: Just, I would personally separate it from that because you can't control that mountain and CLO. So a lot of Wolverine 31:49 Speaker 4: add in the GHK-3s, which is going to be great for the collagen production. Do the key KPV 2 for gut, but that's how I'm gonna answer that for sure. I would agree. So here's in a more practical sense, like, the GHKCu 32:02 Speaker 5: is out is working on your, like, dermis layer really is to to to 32:06 Speaker 5: have your body create more collagen right there on the skin layer. So it's actually showing that to heal skin wounds faster. And what you are trying to do is not have scars on your abdominal surgery. Right? And like, so absolutely 32:18 Speaker 5: take GHK-3Cu. 32:19 Speaker 5: The problem is you can't take a lot of it. 32:22 Speaker 5: And if you take CLO, you have equal 1 parts, not actually equal, but like a 10 megs BPC-ten 32:28 Speaker 5: megs-ten 32:29 Speaker 5: megs KPV, 32:30 Speaker 5: 50 megs 32:33 Speaker 5: what it is. You have to be in that ratio. Okay? We don't I wouldn't really take more than, you know, 3.5 32:40 Speaker 5: migs 3 times a week of GHKCU. 32:42 Speaker 5: So here's what I would do is I would get the clo. 32:45 Speaker 5: I would take that 32:47 Speaker 5: 3 times a week, like 3.3 mg of it. And then I would also buy the BPC plus TB 500 mix, which is the Wolverine blend 32:58 Speaker 5: and supplement, 32:59 Speaker 5: use that to blast in way more BPC and TB 33:04 Speaker 4: before and after, especially after 5 33:07 Speaker 5: days, especially after saturate that. And we're talking, I mean, I would talk, I don't know, 33:13 Speaker 5: 2 to 5 mg a day. If you can afford more, go ahead, but like more realistically, right. 2 mgs to 5 mg at least for the 1st month after and put it right there. Hell, SNAP-eight might not be even be after it is. Guys, we're talking, do not inject this stuff into an open wound, right? Like the goal is to put that like a triangle kind of around where the surgery is. So we're trying to really just saturate from all angles with 33:38 Speaker 5: all of this, you know, stem cell healing properties and collagen absorption signaling of BPC and TB-five 100 all around there. SNAP-eight 33:49 Speaker 5: helps muscles wrinkles. 33:50 Speaker 5: It helps your 33:51 Speaker 5: skin essentially and muscles relax a bit, and that does not cause wrinkling. 33:56 Speaker 5: Therefore, 33:58 Speaker 5: it can tighten up skin, but I would put on the GHK-3Cu 34:01 Speaker 5: plus 34:02 Speaker 5: SNAP-8s 34:03 Speaker 5: serum 34:04 Speaker 5: after that wound is closed. That's amazing for sure. 34:07 Speaker 5: A 100%. 34:09 Speaker 5: Other supplements, vitamin C, zinc, vitamin D, 34:14 Speaker 5: get a lot of sun. Good diet. 34:17 Speaker 5: You can also add Tessa Ipka. Okay. What are those doing? Those increase growth 34:21 Speaker 5: hormone signaling, right? That's your body growing and healing faster. So that'll give you kind of an overall systemic thing. And then we got the CLO plus Wolverine, 34:30 Speaker 5: which is just adding high doses of BPC TB 34:34 Speaker 5: spot injected there. Boom. 34:36 Speaker 4: Boom. That's it. Thank you. Luck with that. I like it. Yeah. Keep us posted. You'll have good luck. Wolverine. That's why we choose it as our favorite, but just because it's a, you can use a ton of it as you should. And it's just universal. 34:49 Speaker 4: Right. Am I up? Yeah. 34:51 Speaker 4: All right. Hi all. Hello from Scotland. Glad I found the group of your amazing podcasts. Thinking of doing carnivore, but heard it doesn't go well on Reta due to the high fat content. 35:01 Speaker 4: Should I drop the Retta altogether or just lower the dose? On 2 Migs just 35:07 Speaker 4: now, as well as doing TRT 35:09 Speaker 4: and going to start 2 IUs of GH shortly. 35:13 Speaker 4: Thank you for the information you give 35:16 Speaker 4: and sharing your experience of using peptides. Big love from Scotland. 35:21 Speaker 5: Yeah. 35:22 Speaker 4: School 35:23 Speaker 4: what's that? What's it? That 35:25 Speaker 4: movie. The problem with Scotland is it's full of Scots. Scots. 35:29 Speaker 4: Braveheart. Oh. Braveheart. That's amazing. Planet. Scotland's full of Scots. Yeah. Dude. Assholes. 35:35 Speaker 5: God, English suck in history. 35:38 Speaker 5: So does Americans from some point of view, but we all suck every conquering. Dude, I sold that movie like And 35:45 Speaker 4: I walked out of it and ready to conquer the world. 35:48 Speaker 4: Still, I will still watch that. When you're done, it's like when he kills his bride, just did, you will die. 35:56 Speaker 5: Well, I'm a carnivore. I bet William Wallace was an alcoholic too, by the way. 36:00 Speaker 4: He did those people. Wore your gene baby. Crazy. Yeah. 36:04 Speaker 4: And kept his ass alive. Yeah. Give him some more booze. 36:08 Speaker 4: It's 36:09 Speaker 4: something about that gene, bro. Like it's, that's for sure. Agree. Yeah, I'm a carnivore. I can tell you I've done Retta and 36:18 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, you can definitely do Retrutide with 36:22 Speaker 4: a big carnivore without it. Now, my experience, 36:25 Speaker 4: which is the best I can give you because it's my experience. I was on Carnivore for 5 years 36:30 Speaker 4: until I started doing Retta. Now, I found personally 36:35 Speaker 4: that 36:36 Speaker 4: I did feel very strongly that my body 36:40 Speaker 4: needed 36:41 Speaker 4: carbs 36:42 Speaker 4: for the 1st time in 5 years. I didn't have that strong 36:45 Speaker 4: pull on 36:48 Speaker 4: me until I started adding in the Retta. So 36:53 Speaker 4: you can for sure. 36:55 Speaker 4: You think that you'll get a little bit of benefit more from it if you do add a little bit of carbs in. What's 37:02 Speaker 4: your objectives? 37:03 Speaker 4: I mean, that's always the answer to that question. Are you trying to lose weight? You're trying to get buff. Are you, that plays a huge role in it. You know, I was, I was, you know, super lean and in shape, 37:15 Speaker 4: so I could get away with carbs. You know, I love the carnivore lifestyle. And since I've started, I've ping pong back and forth because once you haven't had cars for 5 years and you have them, damn, they're good. 37:27 Speaker 4: But I like how I feel 37:29 Speaker 4: without them, but 37:31 Speaker 4: you know, so anyways, but no, yeah, you absolutely can. 37:35 Speaker 4: Should you? I really think from a standpoint of the objective is going to answer that better. Yes, you can get away with carnivore and doing some carbs, even maybe try what I'm doing right now is carbs before you lift carbs after, keep it real low, 37:51 Speaker 4: because you're not 37:53 Speaker 4: even going to notice body wise that you're those carbs. It's gonna, you're gonna do well with them. But if you want to stay strict carnivore, 38:00 Speaker 4: yes, you can. Yep. Absolutely. You totally can. It's a good thing. In fact, it will make enhance everything now. 38:07 Speaker 4: Yes. What are your goals? If you're doing carnivore for 38:10 Speaker 5: immune, 38:11 Speaker 5: like autoimmune suppression things, 38:13 Speaker 5: that's a different story. But, like, if you're just if you're trying to take Retta and do carnivore because you wanna look good and lose weight, like, 38:21 Speaker 5: don't do the full carnivore. You can have some carbs. Yeah. It you're Especially on Retta. Retta, like, the Retta is 38:27 Speaker 5: so low carnivore is gonna be as low as, like, it's gonna increase your insulin sensitivity. 38:33 Speaker 5: It's not gonna, 38:36 Speaker 5: and 38:37 Speaker 5: taking Retta is actually gonna boost pump more insulin in you, which is gonna work even better 38:43 Speaker 5: in this low insulin state, 38:45 Speaker 5: they will 1 hand a 100% just amplify the hell out of each other. Right? 38:50 Speaker 5: Can eat a little bit of carbs because the Retta would just take care of that. Will just absorb it and the insulin will kill it off and it'll take some IGF-one too, like before you lift and like, bro, if you're eating a good amount of protein, just sucks all these nutrients that you're getting right in the right places. I 39:06 Speaker 5: guess, so here are some concerns 39:08 Speaker 5: with doing that is the digestion. 39:11 Speaker 5: So already 39:13 Speaker 5: having a low having a high protein and high fat diet can slow digestion a little bit. Okay? That's why you feel a bit fuller longer from fat. Okay? That's a good thing. Right? It can also reduce your appetite. So it can further 39:25 Speaker 5: slow that GI tract, 39:27 Speaker 5: which is a good thing. That's the whole point. Right? But taken to the extreme, 39:34 Speaker 5: you don't want it to freeze. Yeah. You know? So fiber, you could actually add pure fiber supplement, 39:41 Speaker 5: which which is not carnivore negates the carnivore, but it keeps you keto. It's wise. Yeah. So I 39:47 Speaker 4: had that issue towards the end. I don't know how long I did red. I don't really track it, but maybe 6 months give or take. And I was having some stomach problems towards the end and I was pretty confident it was red. So I jumped off for sure. Drink lots of water. 40:02 Speaker 5: Hydration. 40:03 Speaker 5: Just hydrate, get those stuff moving, eat enough fat. Right? If people do carnivore and just eat too much protein, that's really gonna slow that gut down. You have said like, Hey dude, the more fat you know you're eating enough fat, if you poop just bloop easy. 40:16 Speaker 5: If you're not, 40:18 Speaker 4: it's just gonna just rock up. Yeah. Tells you, that's how you do it. 40:23 Speaker 5: Body, need to listen to your body. 40:26 Speaker 5: Gallstone risks. 40:27 Speaker 5: Right? True. Having high protein and 40:31 Speaker 5: like no fiber. Right? Because it's just gonna start solidifying. 40:35 Speaker 5: Creating little gallstones, I suppose. 40:38 Speaker 5: Electrolytes 40:38 Speaker 5: will be no in keto folks. 40:41 Speaker 5: Making a mistake. If you're in carnivore, you're keto. 40:45 Speaker 5: It's just a bit different. Whereas carnivores, like animal products, 40:49 Speaker 5: keto is like, I don't care. You just know, no carbs to throw you out of ketosis and mostly protein. Yeah. Ketos are, you gotta track macros like crazy. Kind of. You gotta know your macros and keep these things. Just makes things get more complicated. Does. Carbs eat the 41:06 Speaker 4: simple. Don't eat this. Eat this. For like a caveman like me, crazy. But 41:12 Speaker 5: then it gets kind of hard to get pure fat. It is like olive oil, 41:16 Speaker 5: avocados. 41:16 Speaker 4: That's not carnivore. 41:18 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. Beefalo. 41:20 Speaker 5: Beefalo is about all you can do is pure fat. Right? 41:24 Speaker 5: At least with keto, 41:26 Speaker 5: you can do 41:27 Speaker 4: olive oil, 41:28 Speaker 5: MCT oil, 41:29 Speaker 4: and avocados. 41:31 Speaker 5: It's about the only thing that's just pure fat. Yeah. Nuts aren't even pure fat. They have some protein in them. Eggs aren't. I guess you could eat egg yolks, but still yolk has a little protein. 41:40 Speaker 5: Anyway, 41:42 Speaker 5: point there oh, electrolytes. So carbohydrates 41:45 Speaker 5: is basically how we store water in our muscles, right? So you will notice for sure on keto, carnivore, you might start cramping up a lot easier. So this is why you need to water, 41:55 Speaker 5: water, water, water. Electrolyte. Yes. Salt. Salt. Your electrolyte, the only electrolyte you can get is from salt. You'll see a lot of these like isopure 42:02 Speaker 5: protein 42:03 Speaker 5: is they've 42:05 Speaker 5: long time ago, they made that stuff for people in keto. You look at the content and it's 42:10 Speaker 5: salt, the sodium content is like off the charts. 42:13 Speaker 5: And an uneducated mind would be like, wow, like, oh, that's so bad for you. It's all salt. Well, the whole point is because they're most of their stuff is just no, no, no carbs. They know you got no carbs. You better find a way to hold water in your body. And salt sodium is the only way to do it. And if you're doing it correctly, that's okay. It's not bad. If you're just to 42:32 Speaker 5: eat unhealthy shit and just drink 42:35 Speaker 5: salt all day along with your sugar stuff, then it's bad. But if you're doing everything right, sodium can be good is good for you. Right? 42:41 Speaker 5: You just say like, dude, you're feeling like crap. You just chug some Celtics. 42:46 Speaker 4: Low energy, unfocused, 42:48 Speaker 4: foggy, 42:49 Speaker 4: you might be dehydrated. 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So you gotta throw that my my wife always, like, laughs because I always have a ton of salt in my because it's you you use it. Yep. Absolutely. Your body needs it. But I think the fiber will really help. It's not nivore, but if we're doing keto, dude, the yeast- How hard core carnivore do you want to do? If you want to be do it for like the reason of like some of the guys that are just, 44:40 Speaker 4: they have their, that's what they do and they won't break it. Or like me, I was like, a avocado was a carnivore. No, but like it's fat and I liked it and it worked for me. So what's your objective? What's your objective? Not that simple. All right, good job. 44:54 Speaker 5: What? 44:55 Speaker 4: Love carnivore. 44:56 Speaker 5: Stuff. Did I've, as of yesterday started 44:59 Speaker 5: going mostly carnivore, but I'm not going to be strict on it, but just basically I'm cutting out. Here's the thing folks I have learned in my life. If I can not eat sweets 45:08 Speaker 5: and get enough protein, like protein's my barometer. If you're just working to get enough protein, right, if you can get like in for a big man, right, 2 50 pounds, right? Gram a pound. If I want it 2 g, which is pretty impossible, 45:22 Speaker 5: 2 g of protein per pound of body Man, that's a lot. Shit ton of protein. Yeah. It's 500 grams of protein. Right? It's not really doable. 45:30 Speaker 5: That is, but I'm going for at least a gram, very minimum, at least that's even hard to do. It is. 45:36 Speaker 5: If I can get a gram of protein, 45:39 Speaker 5: okay, if I can get a gram and 0.5 of protein per pound of body weight, 45:42 Speaker 5: guess what? I'm probably getting enough fat if I'm not going full keto, right? Like I'm getting my dietary need of fat. I'm probably not, and I'm not eating sweets. 45:50 Speaker 5: I'm guarantee you that I'm not eating a bunch of other carbs because they can't even fit with that much protein coming in. Right? Yeah. You're full. And you start to just go, god dang. I am doing all these good things for my body. I don't want that I don't want that shit. Takes a while. You will see I don't know. For me, it, like, works fast. Like, I don't notice in a couple days before we're gonna be like, dude, I'm cutting out this to grow. The the when you don't crave the sugars. Yes. Oh, that does. You have to change your taste buds and that's not easy. I've done it numerous times. I'm in the middle of it now. Like I keep kind of like thinking, because I feel better. I feel better when I am on full carnivore, 46:23 Speaker 4: but 46:24 Speaker 4: I'm getting older and my body's like, my God, he's going through some changes. So I like, I'm toying around with some different diet stuff just to see where I can find that sweet spot. And those carbs, 46:34 Speaker 4: I get a little bloated, just how it is. But I look bigger. So like, what is your What's your objective? If you wanna get ripped Frozen colors. Carnivore will rip you up, dude. It will rip you hardcore carnivore for a month, I'm telling you, you will drop fat like crazy. Then you wanna get worse. You wanna get me buff really 1 day as I do carnivore and then some carbs. Some carbs. You'll go, like, holy shit. Were twice the size. And I'm still looking lean, a little bit up because you've, then you IGF-one, 47:00 Speaker 5: do that consistently. 47:01 Speaker 5: Like you're a monster. 47:04 Speaker 5: But, so I've just started to do that because we were leaving to go on a little vacation that might be 47:09 Speaker 5: romantic in some sort, there'll be lots of pictures in a hot place. 47:14 Speaker 5: 1 month to really get in shape. I know, and I'm not taking really any testosterone or any other like performance enhancing supplements because I'm trying to make a baby, but watching 1 month, 47:24 Speaker 4: I know my body reacts really work. Yeah. So, yeah. So like, it's crazy because like hardcore dude, so 1 of things when I was doing the Retta and I added in the carbs was 1 of the reasons I also didn't like it and we'll know this because he knows me well, I am just crazy about my discipline, like, right? I just want to be, and when I started to do the Retta, I would bend on that discipline 47:46 Speaker 4: because I could do it. And then I started bending on it a little bit. And then I realized that I had bent so far that I was like eating, you know what I mean? Like, I know that might not mean anything to other people, but it does to me. Like, I just, I like to be in the zone of like, that's works well for me, dude. Like, and it's hard to get back there. I've been trying to get back ever since man. Like this morning I was like, I lifted out my house before because we gotta go. 3 48:09 Speaker 4: dude, 48:10 Speaker 4: my brain was like, eat some carbs, have some toast, some sourdough toast. Like, I didn't fold, but man, did I want to? It was a, it was a bitch though. Even in 1 day, 48:20 Speaker 5: there was such a mindset of 48:23 Speaker 5: I'm doing of restricting and that feels good 48:26 Speaker 5: and to know that like 48:29 Speaker 5: and, you know, you set set yourself a path and a goal and like, damn. I mean, for me, I have all I haven't really known mentally, like, how far I've let it go, but, like, every decision, not really every decision in my life, but, like, food decisions, you start making 1 bad decision, you're like, doesn't matter. Like, because I already meant that when, you know Comments. And it's just false. And then when you start making the right decisions, holy shit, do you feel more empowered and more energy? It's such a bigger 48:54 Speaker 5: problem to make the wrong decision 48:56 Speaker 5: for food, you know, food wise. It just is, I don't know. It's so uplifting and helpful 49:02 Speaker 5: every time you reinforce the right decisions, 49:05 Speaker 5: which I think is like a, you know, psychology 49:07 Speaker 4: 101, but like, 49:09 Speaker 5: it is empowerment and it's, we don't, we don't 49:13 Speaker 5: realize how far I slip. 49:16 Speaker 4: Flip. They're all compounded little wins and little losses. That's why I always love the carnival because it 49:22 Speaker 4: is what you can eat. You can't eat all this. It's very simple. And if you do this, you get ripped. You do. It's that simple. 49:30 Speaker 4: Eventually for anybody that's thinking about it, like you will get ripped for 1 and 2, 49:35 Speaker 4: your taste buds will change. And then you do not crave the sugar, but it's definitely for sure. Definitely the sugar calls Oh, it 49:43 Speaker 5: yes. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Right on, I think I'm reading, has I not even read this yet? Sleep quality. Sleep quality. Hey guys, 42 year old woman who started my pipette journey about 5 weeks ago, 49:56 Speaker 5: Currently focused on fat loss and body recomp, super active and eat well with a focus on protein, good for you, as well as mitigating symptoms of perimenopause. 50:06 Speaker 5: Since starting my stack, my sleep quality has been consistently poor despite getting between 7 and 9 hours a night, and I'm hoping you may have some suggestions. My current stack is Reta 2 Migs once a week. BPC 500 micrograms 50:20 Speaker 5: each 5 times a week. 50:23 Speaker 5: Did I miss something? 50:24 Speaker 5: Anyway, 50:26 Speaker 5: well, 50:27 Speaker 5: GHK CU, 2 Migs, 50:30 Speaker 5: 5 times a week. SS-31MQ, 50:32 Speaker 5: 1 Mig each, 5 times a week. I take all of them in the morning except with the Retta, which I take in the evening. Here's an example of excellent 50:40 Speaker 5: of recent sleep score data from my Garmin watch for context. Duration, 9 hours, 16 minutes. Excellent stress 50:47 Speaker 5: excellent stress, 50:49 Speaker 5: 37 average. 50:51 Speaker 5: Poor deep 25 50:53 Speaker 5: minutes, 50:54 Speaker 5: poor light, 8 hours, 10 minutes for REM sleep, 41 minutes, poor awake, restlessness, 1 51:01 Speaker 5: hour, 30 minutes, 57 51:03 Speaker 5: restless moments. Jamming is this bad. 51:06 Speaker 5: Having very vivid dreams. I mean, which usually is kind of a good thing. Dreams nightly that are more often than not negative. They're more often than not negative in nature. I understand the importance of sleep recovery, I can't help but think this quality of sleep is hindering my results. I appreciate you guys. 51:22 Speaker 5: Time you take to help all of us in your community. Thanks in advance. 51:26 Speaker 5: Yo, that's cool. That's really 51:29 Speaker 5: good. And like, it's crazy 51:31 Speaker 5: 9 hours. 51:32 Speaker 5: You got 9 hours early. 51:34 Speaker 5: I 51:36 Speaker 5: don't think I'd do it. But 51:39 Speaker 5: yeah, like all of these numbers though, having 9 hours of sleep are all really bad, you know, like deep REM sleep, 45 minutes or something like that. Yeah. I was curious how you and I already answered this question the same. Now, 51:51 Speaker 5: so that all sucks. I have a sleep number bed just recently and like it gives you that sleep score. I'm actually surprised how well my score is. Good and how good my scores. 52:01 Speaker 5: For the amount of low, bad, like I don't, 52:05 Speaker 5: I wake up quite often 52:07 Speaker 5: and I don't get that many hours of sleep, but 52:10 Speaker 5: it gives me a good score, so I don't even know. But 52:13 Speaker 5: that's funny. Okay. Dreams 52:16 Speaker 5: usually so dreams is like when we we get into REM sleep and the fast, you know, rapid eye movement sleep, 52:21 Speaker 5: that's when we have dreams. Therefore, 52:24 Speaker 5: the fact that you're having dreams 52:27 Speaker 5: is usually a good thing because that means you're in REM and that's our recovery sleep. Now, 52:32 Speaker 5: the fact that they're bad dreams, 52:34 Speaker 5: you probably have some psychological things going on in your awake life, right, that like are manifesting in your dreams. And so, 52:42 Speaker 5: yeah, some like internal worries, which totally can contribute to bad sleep. But why don't you go ahead and tell them, tell us what you have the sleep issues. Well, I do know that I love that we talk about this because 52:53 Speaker 4: I didn't know how important sleep was. We all hear that until I really 3 started having problems. And then I had problems because of the lack of sleep that, so it's been 53:02 Speaker 4: a cool experience only from the standpoint of what I've learned studying from it. And it's been really eyeopening and I love when I hear people that are having these same problems because I can kind of at least pass on my knowledge, 53:13 Speaker 4: but here's something that kind of jumped out at me when you said this is you're tracking all this stuff. This is what it says, 53:19 Speaker 4: But if you pulled that out, would you think that you had good sleep? Yeah. Because you're sleeping a lot. So like, let's pull that out and stop looking at that. 1 of the things that I don't do anymore is I don't, my phone's by my bed. I don't look at the clock because if it's 3, I'm like, oh, should I go back to sleep or should I, and it's screwed with my head. So I don't turn that sucker over until I know I'm ready to get up. That's helped me. So maybe pull that sleep tracker thing out and you'll have, you'll have 9 to 7 hours or 7 to 9 hours sleep. You'll know that you did well because the answer is how do you feel? Do you feel rested? 53:48 Speaker 4: Are you, is your opinion being 53:50 Speaker 4: based upon the sleeper tracker? 53:53 Speaker 4: Because I think that's a big part of this equation. 53:55 Speaker 4: Now, are you eating too low calories? 53:57 Speaker 4: If, if what's helped for me, if I didn't if I don't if I'm not full and like, dude, what helped for me for a long time was like 54:05 Speaker 4: having a little bit of toast, like sourdough toast or like a little bit of oatmeal before I went to bed, that helped me sleep 54:10 Speaker 4: longer. 54:12 Speaker 4: So a little bit of carbs, which I don't recommend necessarily, 54:14 Speaker 4: but when you want to sleep, I do, you know? 54:18 Speaker 4: And make sure you're getting enough calories. You need to be hydrated, make sure you're drinking salt water, 54:23 Speaker 4: that stuff. 54:24 Speaker 4: And ultimately, 54:26 Speaker 4: if you want the protocol that's been passed on to me by 1 of our viewers, I wish you would see this again because I've asked numerous times if you'd hit me up on my DMs. It's glycine, it's magnesium, 54:37 Speaker 4: it's 54:38 Speaker 4: Valerian root, 54:40 Speaker 4: and a small amount of melatonin, 54:42 Speaker 4: slow release, and ashwagandha. 54:44 Speaker 4: Those 54:45 Speaker 4: 4 54:46 Speaker 4: have 54:47 Speaker 4: been radical for me. 54:51 Speaker 4: So maybe that will help you. But yeah, I would pull that tracker out for a week and see if that changes your mindset. Cause that could be just screwing with your head. So I don't look at my phone for a reason. 55:02 Speaker 4: So maybe troll that. I really think that you probably get better sleep than you think. You're just tracking it from that. So As far as the peptides go, like, 55:11 Speaker 4: DSIP. MOTS-1C, 55:12 Speaker 5: yeah, DSIP to add in. 55:15 Speaker 5: I would here's the thing. I would do some experiments. 55:19 Speaker 5: I agree with everything he said though too. Like imagine you didn't have the tracker, like, what would you think? 55:25 Speaker 5: I bet you did. I bet that's a big problem. Yeah, it could just be mind effing. Who knows? Maybe they think Garmin's not right. Now you're like I feel so rested. No, I don't. No, I don't. Oh, God tired. Right. But, 55:35 Speaker 5: so, but if this persists and you, let's say you don't feel good. Okay. You don't feel like you're getting restless sleep after 9 hours, that's a lot of sleep. You should have more than 45 55:43 Speaker 5: or 25 minutes of REM sleep. Like that's really bad. 55:47 Speaker 5: DSIP could help, but I would systematically 55:51 Speaker 5: pull peptides. So MOTS-3C 55:53 Speaker 5: can absolutely have some stimulating effects. Know you're only taking 1 mg, 55:57 Speaker 5: but and in the morning, which is you should, don't take any of these things later than 10AM, 56:01 Speaker 5: but, and same with SS-thirty 1, okay? 56:04 Speaker 5: But what if you're really sensitive and those are really still like, basically it sounds like if this is true, your nervous system is just not able to calm down again. Okay? That is what's happening. 56:14 Speaker 5: Now, perimenopause, 56:16 Speaker 5: high cortisol, that does that. I 56:19 Speaker 5: actually just reminded myself with my notes. So, 56:22 Speaker 5: negative 56:24 Speaker 5: vivid dreams is a sign of high cortisol. 56:27 Speaker 5: You will and they see it with people in with perimenopause 56:30 Speaker 5: and 56:31 Speaker 5: high level endurance athletes 56:34 Speaker 5: who, as we know, like longer than like an hour of constant exercise, 56:38 Speaker 5: your testosterone plummets, 56:39 Speaker 5: cortisol goes crazy. Right? 56:41 Speaker 5: Same reason why you see the same, like 5 old dudes in the gym playing basketball 3 times a week, they're all still fat. 56:49 Speaker 5: Like what the hell? These guys run their asses off. Right? Cause they're just, they're just doing, they're doing cardio, which is just increasing their cortisol and 56:57 Speaker 5: they're not lifting weights anyway. So that is common 57:01 Speaker 5: that negative sleep. 57:03 Speaker 5: Hey, perimenopause increasing cortisol. So you kind of already know this, 57:09 Speaker 5: but I would systemically drop them. I would try doing your Retta in the morning too. Agreed. I don't know. 57:14 Speaker 5: There really is no I mean, there's very few people feel the nausea, and that's the only reason to take it at is to avoid the nausea maybe. 57:21 Speaker 5: But, like, I don't think you're gonna get it, especially you've already been taking it. So I would try that in the morning, but I would systematically, like, watch see what happens. Like, 57:29 Speaker 5: 1st of all, I'd go read it in the morning. Alright? 57:32 Speaker 5: And 57:34 Speaker 5: do that for 2 weeks, see if it makes any difference. 57:36 Speaker 5: Then pull the MOTS-seed SS-thirty 1. 57:40 Speaker 5: 2 weeks, see if there's any difference. 57:43 Speaker 5: Add indeed do some of these small experiments on your own so you know what the problem is so you can figure it out immediately. 57:49 Speaker 4: Green. 57:50 Speaker 5: Everything natural supplement, he said, do it too. K. But That's that's great for you too. It's not nothing bad. No. It's not. Shit. I don't know how old you or 42 year old woman. You might even wanna add in some tiny little, like, low doses of testosterone. 58:04 Speaker 5: Watch 58:05 Speaker 5: how, that lowers your cortisol. 58:07 Speaker 5: Okay. 58:09 Speaker 5: Next. Yep. What's 58:11 Speaker 4: up, fellas? Thank you for all you guys are doing. The world needed you guys. I'll rad. Thank you. I have an odd question that hopefully you can answer for legal size. 58:21 Speaker 4: Do I, oh, that's 58:23 Speaker 4: the wrong 1, right? Yeah. 58:25 Speaker 4: Enjoy the podcast and your guys' conversations. Sorry about that. All right. So enjoy the podcast and you guys' 58:31 Speaker 4: trying to get my 72 year old parents 58:34 Speaker 4: on some peptides, but they're reluctant on injecting more than 2 times a day for now. Understandable. 58:40 Speaker 4: Can I combine SS-thirty 1 and Semax in 1 syringe for the morning and Clo and Tessa 58:46 Speaker 4: in 1 syringe for nighttime? 58:49 Speaker 4: For ease of them, I would pre fill all syringes for the whole week, 5 on 2 off. Would the peptide deficiency still be valid? Thanks in advance. I'll answer it because I do this often. Yeah, I do. I think so. Don't know if I was going answer this the same, but, I've done those and, 59:05 Speaker 4: I think that would be great because you want them to take these and you want to simplify life for your parents. 59:11 Speaker 4: So yes, absolutely. 59:13 Speaker 4: That's great. I think what you're doing for them, like I I've told my story, my old man would not take peptides until finally he gave in and he's like, that's it. 59:22 Speaker 4: And now he talks about peptides all the time. So it's kind of how it is, you know, 72 that's old. We're trying to kind of teach old dogs new tricks, 59:31 Speaker 4: but when they start feeling great, they're going to want to take more. It's kind of how it goes. But, my, my opinion is absolutely you can mix those and no, I don't think it's going to mess up the efficiency, 59:42 Speaker 4: in 59:43 Speaker 4: for a week. I think it's great. I think you're simplifying it and you're helping them simplify their life. 59:49 Speaker 4: I think it's amazing. Do it. Yep. 59:52 Speaker 5: Here is my only issue is, so I don't think that it will diminish 59:57 Speaker 5: the efficacy at all. 1:00:00 Speaker 5: Here's the only I have noticed is some of the GH peptides, right, and 1:00:05 Speaker 5: including growth hormone itself, 1:00:07 Speaker 5: when mixed with other peptides, 1:00:09 Speaker 5: sometimes 1:00:10 Speaker 5: turn cloudy immediately. 1:00:12 Speaker 5: If that's the case, then don't mix them. 1:00:15 Speaker 5: You might have to just mess this up 1 time and go, okay, I can't do that. The for an older person, that the the GHK- 1:00:23 Speaker 5: in the CLO might be really hard for them to take because of the sting. Yeah. You know? But you totally can mix no sting in there with the CLO and Tesamorelin. 1:00:33 Speaker 5: Right? That you can mix them same with the same carriers. In fact, you don't even need to. You can mix the Tesamorelin back to your static water. You can mix your clo with no sting. 1:00:41 Speaker 5: And then if you draw and draw, 1:00:45 Speaker 5: same thing, that 1:00:46 Speaker 5: that carrier reconstitution 1:00:48 Speaker 5: solution will not cause a problem because it works. 1:00:51 Speaker 5: The no stain works with anything. 1:00:53 Speaker 5: It's the acidic acid water that you don't wanna use 1:00:56 Speaker 5: on anything but what it's intended for. 1:01:00 Speaker 5: So I would do that to reduce the sting for the clo. You only know if you try it and they, and they, and it turns cloudy together. 1:01:10 Speaker 5: And frankly, I would do them all of these. You wouldn't know that in Tesa 1:01:14 Speaker 5: and Clo, instead of blue. You would know it. You would know it. You could still see it. You can still see it turn to cloud. I would say take out the Tesa and do HGH for your parents are getting old. I think HGH is gonna do way better than the Tesla for 72 year olds. That is true. And that 1 then you really don't wanna mix that with anything because it will turn cloudy. 1:01:31 Speaker 5: But 1:01:33 Speaker 5: I there's no problem. There's no competing pathway issue, so there's no efficacy issue. The only competing thing would be even if it just 1:01:41 Speaker 5: no. When mixing, it just 1:01:43 Speaker 5: turns different 1:01:44 Speaker 5: milky cloudy ness 1:01:47 Speaker 5: and technically fast. That's what I'm done. And go, alright, I can't do that anymore. Okay. But did yeah, none of those 1:01:54 Speaker 5: there would be no difference of you 1:01:57 Speaker 5: taking 5 syringes and injecting them all 1 x 1 right into you, and therefore there's no difference in just filling the syringe up. Your parents will not like it. All the time. And your parents won't like you other than that. It's not true. I think it's alright. 1:02:09 Speaker 5: Best friend was involved in a motorcycle accident a couple of years ago, which resulted in a lot of damage to his ankle. I heard this 1. Several surgeries later, some rods, etcetera. He's got a lot of scar tissue, constant swelling, and pain. Will BPC-2B 1:02:21 Speaker 5: help at all with injury that old? Did we answer this before? Like in past episodes? I think it's kind similar. I guarantee we have, but 1:02:29 Speaker 4: you want to go or I'll go? I think that it will help. Yes, absolutely. It will help and do it. Will help reduce the swelling, which causes pain. It's very worse. It's not going to hurt. So yeah. So he's not doing so well. Like, and how much do a lot. Yep. 1:02:42 Speaker 5: Especially the TB is great for old 1:02:45 Speaker 5: injuries that have stopped, 1:02:47 Speaker 5: that are chronic, that have stopped really trying to heal themselves. You're at an injury. It's so like nagging your body's just like, oh, screw it. I'm living like this. Yeah. Right? Sure. TB is the 1 thing that will actually kind of, like, wake that stuff up. Yep. Sending more regrowth 1:03:01 Speaker 5: signals in. Yes, do it. 1:03:03 Speaker 5: Alright. I'll read again. Have loved the discovering 1:03:06 Speaker 5: so have loved discovering 1:03:07 Speaker 5: the results peptides can bring. Cheetah. 1:03:10 Speaker 5: But this past weekend, 1:03:12 Speaker 5: this is a good 1. I found myself in the ER with anaphylactic reaction, about 5 minutes away from not breathing. 1:03:18 Speaker 5: Histamine rushing to my face, ears, and swelling tongue and throat. 1:03:21 Speaker 5: Hundred milligrams of Benadryl, 1:03:23 Speaker 5: Pepcid, and Epi shot later. 1:03:26 Speaker 4: Was 1:03:27 Speaker 5: it the 1 mg of Tesla I took about an hour before? 1:03:30 Speaker 5: For some context, I'm 8 weeks into an 8 week cycle of 1 mg daily. 1:03:34 Speaker 5: Also on Reta, 1 mg 3 times a week. Clomiphene, 1:03:38 Speaker 5: 25 mg 3 times a week. DHEA, 1:03:41 Speaker 5: 25 5 megs daily, 1:03:43 Speaker 5: little scared to take the Tesa bait. Yeah. 1:03:48 Speaker 4: Go ahead. Well, 1:03:51 Speaker 4: it's an hour before, 1:03:53 Speaker 4: cause what, like what I would ask you is how long after you took it did that happen? 1:03:57 Speaker 4: Because histamine like is almost like immediately. 1:04:01 Speaker 4: It's so scary that it's like a rocket ship because I've had, I've had it from CJC 1:04:06 Speaker 4: and my wife, I'll tell the story. It's 1:04:08 Speaker 4: like so fast that you can't even believe it that fast. It's like, 1:04:12 Speaker 4: so I think you said it's gonna cower Propel and then have been 1:04:16 Speaker 0: fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes, 1:04:19 Speaker 0: 0 sugar, and vitamins. 1:04:21 Speaker 0: Propel hydrates better than water water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? 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So, you know, Joe Brown was just on the podcast. He'd get in front of ours and, that same thing happened to him. He'd take Tesa for, he'd been taking it for a long time, loved it. And then almost overnight, it just stopped working. He had histamine response and he tried it again and it was even worse, which usually happens. 1:06:20 Speaker 4: Went to the ER, so it's kind of a big deal for dumb and say, could try it again and see what happens if it wasn't this bad. 1:06:27 Speaker 4: But that hour, dude, I don't know. That throws me off. I don't know if a histamine is like a meal. So also Tesamorelin 1:06:33 Speaker 5: by itself is not 1:06:35 Speaker 5: a common culprit of histamine reaction. Not impossible. 1:06:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. But people like it's- But like Tesamorelin 1:06:41 Speaker 5: is not usually the same. Yeah. 1:06:45 Speaker 5: It's like CJC is way more likely. I agree. So JD's have said this before, like his wife did CJC 1 time 1:06:51 Speaker 5: whack and goes, walked into his room and said, I don't feel very good. What's wrong? And he's like, what in the hell is wrong with you? Like her lips were all swell up. She was red swelling like that. And that was her very 1st time using it. So this stuff does happen, but dude, 1st of all, I guess we're really happy you're alive and like made it. And that was as soon as like you had a serious, 1:07:11 Speaker 5: anaphylactic reaction, 1:07:13 Speaker 5: to something, but it is odd. An hour usually doesn't take until maybe- Check out the food. Did you take any What 1:07:20 Speaker 5: else did you Anything in that day that you took that's outside of the norm was I would say- Anything else that you took, this is not what you told us, right? And not even like medication, anything, food, something unique. Do you go hiking? I don't know. Do you like 1:07:35 Speaker 5: rub up against something? I would, you know, 1:07:38 Speaker 5: yeah, 1:07:39 Speaker 5: try it again. Like if you got an EpiPen right here on the table, 1:07:44 Speaker 5: want It's to try the scary test though, run I on saw my wife like that dude, it was gnarly. 1:07:49 Speaker 4: Dude, I 1:07:51 Speaker 4: would like I've said it before, I would not have believed it. If she tried to explain it to me if I wasn't there, I would not have believed what I saw. And I did research right after because I was like, holy shit. 1:08:00 Speaker 4: And like if your 1:08:02 Speaker 4: throat starts to feel like it's closing up, you go to the hospital. Yeah. Because that's not. Yeah, the airway is not something to So mess 1:08:09 Speaker 4: do it. There's no coming back. I would say my opinion, you can give me yours. I wouldn't probably do the test since you went to the ER. I don't, I don't, I am super 50 50 if it was a Tesla because of the hour. Yeah. 1:08:21 Speaker 5: And it's just not likely an hour. And I don't know how long you've been doing these things, but like, have you taken any of these other ones before? 1:08:29 Speaker 5: Right? Maybe it's maybe allergic to I mean, people can just be randomly allergic. People can be allergic to sunlight. So you can someone can be allergic to homophene, but if you're allergic to it, it would have hit you the 1st time you took it. So what's the 1st any of these things was it for the 1st time? 1:08:43 Speaker 5: Were they but but they would work 1:08:46 Speaker 5: like fast, 1:08:47 Speaker 5: like anaphylactic shock would happen. You 1:08:50 Speaker 5: can I would I mean, dude, that's honestly, that's concerning? It's scary. You can totally go to like an allergist 1:08:56 Speaker 5: that they do that pinprick panel on you, 1:08:59 Speaker 5: and they go, alright. What are you allergic to? And then they see it. They go, alright. What did you react to? It's probably worth it, dude, man. Be completely honest with them about what you took, what you're taking. 1:09:11 Speaker 5: Do that. 1:09:12 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do a little research, dude, because, like, you you don't wanna be just scared of some things that's your whole life and and you figure out that it's because you ate some a peanut butter sandwich 1:09:21 Speaker 4: or something, you know, at the same time and that's the actual culprit. Now you just don't take anything out, any peptides. 1:09:28 Speaker 4: Right? 1:09:29 Speaker 4: Getting a real answer. All right. Yeah. All right. You'll fellas, new follower here. I'm 34 years old and have been dealing with chronic coughs since 2013. 1:09:37 Speaker 4: The doctor's been dicking me around. For example, I never had any reflux symptoms and scope came back clear, but they still put me on a PPI, 1:09:47 Speaker 4: saying it was causing my 1:11:28 Speaker 4: Antibiotics suck. I am a huge I 1:11:31 Speaker 4: think they mess up our gut. 1:11:33 Speaker 4: I've taken in the past a lot of them, and I think that has been the culprit for myself. 1:11:40 Speaker 4: We're going to have Doctor. Scott on here again soon because 1:11:44 Speaker 4: know, there's a lot of people listen to this podcast and have gone to him since. He's, I want him to give a really bird's eye view of what he's seen in the stool tests and in the blood work, because he's done a lot lately. And 1:11:55 Speaker 4: I would like him to kind of break that down on what he's seeing. And he's just seeing a lot of gut problems, man. He's my wife. I think 0.5 our office is seeing him. 1:12:04 Speaker 4: So I think it's your gut, 1:12:06 Speaker 4: you know? So try that protocol and I'd get off the antibiotics, dude. The antibiotics suck. They do nothing. Yep. If you're dying, get on antibiotics. Other than that, don't take them. Yeah, I 2nd that. If you wanna message in and like ask us, 1:12:18 Speaker 5: like slower 1:12:20 Speaker 5: that protocol, 1:12:22 Speaker 5: please do. Cool. We got 2 more. Alright. Recently started listening to your podcast and I love the info. Super informative. Recently started Reta about 3 weeks ago. Context, I'm 32 of 3 kids and a year postpartum from my 3rd. 1:12:35 Speaker 5: Started at 167 1:12:38 Speaker 5: pounds with a goal weight of 145 1:12:40 Speaker 5: to 150. 1:12:41 Speaker 5: Wait, what? Oh, yeah. Never mind. I'm down 4 to 5 pounds 1:12:47 Speaker 5: and just went up to 1 mega a week. 1:12:51 Speaker 5: I weight train 3 to 4 times a week consistently. Also getting into running 1 or 2 days a week for heart health because I'm a cardiology APRN. 1:13:00 Speaker 5: So 1:13:01 Speaker 5: gotta take care of that. 1:13:03 Speaker 5: Yep. I've been thinking of introducing Tesa at Naidell, burn stubborn postpartum 1:13:08 Speaker 5: belly fat. Have heard mixed reviews on Tesa for women thoughts and doses to start out. Oh yeah. 1:13:15 Speaker 5: I think cardiology APRN is something, something registered nurse. 1:13:20 Speaker 5: So you 1:13:21 Speaker 5: should be walking the walk good for you. There's nothing worse than like the health 1:13:26 Speaker 5: director being for 3 50 pounds and telling everybody how to be healthy. Right? Like, 1:13:32 Speaker 4: I was doing the fitness stuff, I, the people would say, my doctor said this. I said, let me ask you This is a real question. Is your doctor in shape? No. 1:13:41 Speaker 4: Why isn't he doing it then? 1:13:43 Speaker 4: Know what I mean? 1:13:44 Speaker 5: Change doctors. So like, good for you. That's cool. So 1:13:48 Speaker 5: I think maybe my prior answer about Tesamorelin 1:13:52 Speaker 5: and Retta might answer your question. 1:13:55 Speaker 5: I think that it's a great thing to do. 1:13:59 Speaker 5: I have no I absolutely think you should start Tesamorelin. 1:14:03 Speaker 5: I don't know where I've heard mixed reviews on Tesamorelin. 1:14:06 Speaker 5: I think like the Tesa 10 mg, 3 mg blend, 1:14:10 Speaker 5: you know, Tesa Ipah, 1:14:11 Speaker 5: 10 mgs to 3 mgs of Ipah, is it maybe a good good point for you starting I'd start off. So like, look, 1:14:19 Speaker 5: the 1 thing that we see is 1:14:22 Speaker 5: growth hormones increase too high levels, go too high, too fast, people start to retain water, especially women. 1:14:29 Speaker 5: So start off low, man. Start off at, you know, 1:14:33 Speaker 5: I think low is 500 micrograms 1:14:35 Speaker 5: of Tessa 1:14:37 Speaker 5: daily. 1:14:37 Speaker 5: If you want to be more conservative, start with 2 50 micrograms. 1:14:42 Speaker 5: Do that for a week or 2 and slowly titrate yourself up. 1:14:47 Speaker 5: And you may end, depends on where you end. I don't know. That's up to you, but I'd be looking to end, be a sweet spot somewhere between 1 mill 0.5 of a milligram and 1 mg of Tesamorelin daily. 1:14:59 Speaker 5: My previous answer 1:15:00 Speaker 5: kind of answered the timing Yeah. Question. 1:15:04 Speaker 5: But yeah, do it and good for you. I guarantee with the amount of activity you do and your knowledge, that's going to kick ass and work really well. 0 Yeah. I'm gonna answer a little bit differently. 1:15:14 Speaker 4: I think that the key here is what you said right in the beginning was recently started Retta about 3 weeks ago. I would say give it some time, man. Like you didn't gain any of all this weight at 1st. Why don't you give the Retta some time to kind of kick into 5th gear? I think that the Testa is great. I think you should add it, but maybe wait a little bit because of that. And, then I would add on some AOD on top of the Tesa when you do do it. But let the Retatrut, like, let the Retatrut you're not you're not even in 2nd gear yet, man. You've done it for 3 weeks. Well, also you just increased to 1 mg of Retatrutide weekly. And that's nothing. That's like the what's our clinical start dose? 2 mesh or 2.5? And like you're not, you just increased to 0.5 of the starting dose. Right. 1:15:53 Speaker 4: So if you do that for like, let's try like 2 months and kind of maybe go up a little bit and Reta is going to burn that fat off. 1:15:59 Speaker 4: I mean, cause the objective is when we want to feel great and we love peptides, duh, 1:16:04 Speaker 4: but we also 1:16:06 Speaker 4: love the foundation of a healthy human, which is not having to take 1:16:11 Speaker 4: red stuff. 1:16:12 Speaker 4: So like you are 32, if you were like 45, it might be a different answer, but I think you give the rut to do what it do. And maybe increase the dose a little bit. Yeah. That's it. Then 1:16:23 Speaker 4: add that stuff in because you're gonna, you're gonna see results. You're gonna want to add in more peptides and maybe you don't need to test it. Maybe you try some SS-31or 1:16:30 Speaker 4: something different, NAD. 1:16:31 Speaker 4: So anyways, that was my answer. Went a little bit different. That was very good. Let's Last 1, meant to me. Yeah. All right. So I'm take this home because we gotta get on a plane. 1:16:39 Speaker 4: Hello, 64 1:16:40 Speaker 4: kg female here. I weight trained 5 times per week, 1:16:46 Speaker 4: have a decent amount of muscle, but still 1:16:49 Speaker 4: not as lean as I would like, especially around my stomach and arms and legs. I find food noise and overeating, 1:16:55 Speaker 4: especially when I'm eating 1:16:57 Speaker 4: my non meal prepped tracked meals, 1:17:01 Speaker 4: family meals, dinners out, etcetera. I'm going to start Retta, but I'm not sure on the dosage as, 1:17:07 Speaker 4: and also long term plan. I don't want to be on it forever. And I'm scared about weaning off gaining all the weight back. I don't want to lose a lot of weight as my frame is still relatively small. I want to keep my muscle and I don't want to know. I don't want people 1:17:22 Speaker 4: to notice I'm on peptides. 1:17:25 Speaker 4: I just want to lean out a little bit to be more confident in my clothes at the gym. Thanks so much for your podcast. It's awesome. 1:17:33 Speaker 4: Love it. Let me close this up. Yeah, go ahead. Don't 1:17:37 Speaker 4: know if Will would answer this the same, 1:17:40 Speaker 4: but 1:17:42 Speaker 4: I'm to be direct with you. I'm sorry. It's me. 1:17:45 Speaker 4: If you have to hide anything, I don't think you should do it. You seem a little stressed about it, so give this some time. Maybe you 1:17:51 Speaker 4: can accomplish your goal by just being old school and not having to take anything. The 1:17:57 Speaker 4: discipline 1:17:59 Speaker 4: works. 1:18:00 Speaker 4: Now you have a problem with discipline, you said that, but 1:18:04 Speaker 4: discipline is empowering. 1:18:06 Speaker 4: And that's why I was just telling you about a couple of questions back, when I'm off my discipline, I don't like it. I like to be focused and my best version and discipline is that key to it. 1:18:16 Speaker 4: So you can achieve it. But again, I think if you have to hide it, I don't think you should take it because, you know, when we have people all the time, don't tell anybody I want testosterone, 1:18:24 Speaker 4: give me that back. 1:18:26 Speaker 4: You don't deserve this. You know what I mean? Like, if you're going hide stuff, 1:18:30 Speaker 4: don't hide anything, man. That's, that's a form of lying and that's, I just don't like that. So I hope that that doesn't offend you because I'm just being real with you. 1:18:38 Speaker 4: Because you seem a little, little timid about it. I would give it some time, old school 1st. Retta will always be here. And if you're ready to tell people you're on Retta, then maybe take the Beta. We'll tell you the dosage then. 1:18:49 Speaker 5: I, 1:18:50 Speaker 5: yes, I 2nd everything there. Here's the thing, like, honestly, the the worry about, oh, it'll stop and all the weight comes gaining back is like What if? What if? What if? If you're 1:19:02 Speaker 5: if you do it completely ass backwards wrong, that will happen, but, like, that's manageable. Yeah. I can tell you that it's totally manageable. It's like people doing, don't know, doing steroids, like, oh, steroids, I can do. Yeah. But if you do testosterone or testosterone, like, the right way and not just be a complete dumbass about it, like, you can do it safely. Yes. So same thing with Retta, like, if you so choose, 1:19:24 Speaker 5: you can just be very you can be smart on how you get off of it and it will not come all the way. It won't come rushing back. The brilliance of Retta is it's not you can you can you keep your appetite, you keep your muscle, you keep eating. 1:19:37 Speaker 5: Right? And so, and and if you do start, just start ultra low. Yeah. Right? 1:19:43 Speaker 5: Start ultra low. And when it's time to wean off, literally wean off, know, just stop. 1:19:48 Speaker 5: Okay. 1:19:49 Speaker 5: And if you'd never even go really high, then that weight gain, it can Like the Red is like is the training wheels. It is not the bicycle, right? The bicycle 1:19:59 Speaker 5: is your 1:20:00 Speaker 5: workout and your discipline and your food. Right? 1:20:03 Speaker 5: It's all the real things that we always talk about. That's it. Reddit is just the little training wheel thing. Gotta ease that along and to get you over some humps and get you there and use it as such. 1:20:15 Speaker 5: But I also agree 1:20:16 Speaker 5: either 1:20:18 Speaker 4: fuck it, tell people. Mean, own it. Don't hide it and own it. Everyone's on Retta. I know. Anyway, the people you're probably hiding it from or hiding it from you. Don't 1:20:27 Speaker 4: Don't tell Don't tell her. There's the 1 person that's admitting it. They're like, yep, he's, everybody's on it. 1:20:33 Speaker 5: Like, look, I actually looked at the stat the other day we're talking about. So 24% of the population in West Virginia is on a GLP-one. That's including children? 1:20:42 Speaker 4: Oh, man. 1:20:43 Speaker 5: I mean, children aren't on it, but that that that that statistic. Oh, that's in that statistic. They're 1:20:48 Speaker 5: included in the 20 so like, right. Wow. So if we look at that, you know, I don't know what the population of children is, but maybe 30% 1:20:55 Speaker 5: of the total population is a child. And so therefore, 1:20:59 Speaker 5: that 25% now probably goes to 50% of everybody. And now it's West Virginia. We talked about this as a follow-up to, I think, you know, I said that 1:21:06 Speaker 5: that's, 1:21:08 Speaker 5: yeah. But everybody 1:21:10 Speaker 5: is on the damn GLP ones. 1:21:12 Speaker 5: It depends on where you live. Nobody 1:21:14 Speaker 5: is going to judge you. We're, we're, 1:21:16 Speaker 4: we had 2 guys that are ripped. They're on Reddit. It's amazing 1:21:19 Speaker 5: compounding like, and fuck. If you got some religious thing, I don't know. You know, we don't know you, but like, 1:21:26 Speaker 5: you're right. I guarantee you that you're lying to people and they're lying back to you. Yeah. 1:21:31 Speaker 5: Tell somebody that balls be like, you know just need some honest friends. I'm on the honest too. And everybody's like, I am too. It's the most amazing thing. And then everybody enlightens and everything gets better and now everybody's happier. Tiffany's on Retatrut honey. 1:21:43 Speaker 4: No shit. Yeah. Yeah. 1:21:45 Speaker 4: No, that was cool, man. It was fun. We love you guys. We appreciate all the kind words. 1:21:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, man. We love we love doing this. It's it's a blast that we get to sit down and have a piece of you guys and get to touch you guys in a form. Questions are great. 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