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0:55Speaker 2back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way mister William T.
1:08Speaker 3I don't really like all the attention being paid to me or not very good at being served.
1:18Speaker 3Ally's like, alright, well, we gotta go do this errand. She's like, I'll do it. You just stay there. I'm not very good at that. I'm like, no. I'm like, I'd rather go do the work and you relax.
1:32Speaker 3For very long now, dude. Like, I can't just lay I can't just, like, lay there in the sun
1:39Speaker 2for, like, 2 hours Really? And do nothing. Oh, man. I can't remember. I need a book, I guess. Yeah. For sure. Is too damn hot, and then I am just uncomfortable. Isn't that crazy as you are younger? I mean, everybody's shared this and has probably thought this where when you're young,
1:53Speaker 2like, you don't take naps, you don't wanna take a nap, you don't wanna sit by a pool and read. Like, as you get older, naps, man. I just
2:00Speaker 2If I could just get a nap in the day, would be rad for so long. And then 2, like laying by a pool and like being having no questions asked to me except for all of me just read this book. Yeah. That's great. That's what I love reading. Yes. Like Yeah. You like stoicism? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That I read. I can't remember the name of it. I thought you'd like it. It's on stoicism.
2:18Speaker 2It's a very cool trait, dude. It's a very cool yes. Like, don't I guess Keep your your wits. Don't let people have the energy of
2:27Speaker 3revenue up. Uh-huh. That's Everything is all about yeah. I mean, it really is kind of Jedi stuff. Like, stoicism is all about not wanting for anything, not needing anything, not
2:46Speaker 3You know who's big on that and, like, does a lot of practice with this is Kate's father. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Interesting. If you ask Jeff, he'll he'll tell you all about it. And he really yeah. It's cool. I mean, it's pretty hardcore if you go true stoic. Right?
3:01Speaker 2Yeah. The book that I was reading, it was interesting. It was, it had even talked about how,
3:06Speaker 2what's his name? What's it? The, president Kennedy when, when, like, all that stuff was going on with
3:13Speaker 2what was the war we were dealing with? It was the Cuban Missile Crisis. Cuban Missile Crisis. And I was talking about how much pressure that he was under. And
3:22Speaker 2I can't remember exactly what, but he because he was stoic and, like, kept calm because all his generals were like, bomb bomb bomb bomb, like, boom up and Right. Because he kept us cool.
3:35Speaker 2Why there's this whole them. Earth isn't this nuclear wasteland. Right. That's good for him. Yeah, so last week we were talking about how,
3:47Speaker 2is how I get presents. I'm not the best present giver, but I will tell you. SLU-1G gave me a iron sharpens iron, like Yeah. Yeah. Thing long time ago, and it still hangs in my office at the house. And, because I love iron sharpens iron. Proverbs 27 17. So I got this big dude. This
4:16Speaker 2and, it's always meant something to me. A good friend of mine gave out to me as I started my Instagram channel, I was getting tacked heavily,
4:31Speaker 2put themselves on the field are the ones that are gonna succeed and the dudes in the stands are gonna throw down shit, but men are on the field taking the bullets and taking the wounds are the ones that succeeds.
4:42Speaker 3It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. I think the last line of that says, right,
4:57Speaker 3Have a chance to be a damn hero, and you are still a hero if you try and fail. At least you try. Last line is
5:10Speaker 2at least he fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls
5:28Speaker 3shit, climb Everest, whatever it is your Everest is like, you know, and I said, do big shit and
5:38Speaker 3of life and success. Like if we just only participate in things that we know we're going to win at, that's no Well,
5:51Speaker 2comfort is the enemy of progress. Like, so I've said it on this podcast numerous times, if you're new, Will doesn't like being on cameras. It's just not his gig. That's why he's in the back doing the stuff and I'm fine with the cameras. But somehow
6:03Speaker 2I did get him on here and it was awkward at 1st because it wasn't a thing. It's awkward for anybody, was awkward at me 1st, but he's always done really well.
6:10Speaker 3But you got uncomfortable bro and you grew. Look at you're kicking ass now, so that's why I thought of that. Good. It's funny, you know, even so my mother's got her master's in theology of religion and we were at this kind of bible study group the other night. And I was talking to our friend,
6:30Speaker 3prodigal son story? Right? Like all of these, but like everybody always says, Oh, the people use the word, Oh, the prodigal son. Look, he's the 1 who's awesome and did good. But the story,
6:41Speaker 3if we all know- Even though he spent all the money. The prodigal son is the screw off. Right? Like the good doting son who stayed there, watched the family, tended the farm, kept everything stable and alive,
6:54Speaker 3and did everything he was told to do. Then you have the other 1 who left, partied, blew all the money, did nothing. He comes back and he's celebrated and this other 1 is put down. Well, what's up with that, dude? Well, it's about God's grace is new every day, so he's gonna love you no matter what. Yep. That is it. My mother being,
7:14Speaker 3theology and religion, her her point, she said, here's the deal. And you'll see this recurring time and time and time again into other Bible stories. She's in her argument, right, is that basically the Bible, it is about rewarding the person who just dares.
7:31Speaker 3Basically, it's a a story of, like, go fail. Just do something different. Go try. Put yourself out there Yeah. And do something crazy.
7:40Speaker 3Well, that's why. You failed, but, like, that's how we progress and we get better, and that's how we actually instead of just idling, sitting in mediocrity,
7:48Speaker 2just doing, this is what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm gonna do this. And you slowly die like that. Yep. I mean, it's not a knock on people that are fine with just kinda getting by. It's not it's not a knock on those people, but I believe
7:59Speaker 2that's such kind of the Genesis of warrior makers. You know, it kind of just happened how it happened, but it's been such a blessing of how it happens because
8:09Speaker 2is another way that I would say this is the black sheep, but guys like you or me, we've
8:19Speaker 2I don't want to hear a story about a dude that always had his shit together. That's boring. I don't want hear a story about a dude who ripped his damn life to pieces and then had the balls to get back up and like make something better of yourself because
8:35Speaker 2know what I mean? You don't just can't really, like, I remember when I 1st got sober, I went down and sat by the beach and like for the 1st time probably ever,
8:43Speaker 2I was noticing the beauty of trees. I was noticing the beauty of just the calmness of sitting at the beach and being content with sitting at the beach. I had never felt that. And that serenity
9:00Speaker 2not being comfortable. We're supposed to be uncomfortable. But again, you know how I say it, like the men that have that warrior gene, the prodigal son, if you will change the world because they take The only way that you might fail on your ass you probably will,
9:23Speaker 3the species, or else we would still be just hunting and gathering and just eating berries.
9:31Speaker 3had the risk Yeah. To to to go and fight the damn You go fight the lion or go kill kill the animal. It's hard to kill. Anybody wants to meet and be like, damn, that's good. Are you guys sick of these berries? I'm
9:48Speaker 2got 1 for myself because I usually get 1 for me and 1 for you and my wife does that stuff. Babe, that's a little big. So
9:59Speaker 2is a Q and A, everybody's favorite, man. And we love you guys. You're always so kind in
10:05Speaker 3your questions and comments. So we appreciate every 1 of you guys. We'll kick us off. Sure. All right. Question 1. Hi, JD and Will. Love the podcast. I listen every week. I'm 38 year old male with 8 10 total tests. My free test is 11.
10:33Speaker 3I do 16 hour fast 4 times a week and stick to meat, fat, and fruit, and I do some form of working out every day with 4 days of lifting heavy each week. Currently, I'm taking Retta 0.5 mg
10:47Speaker 3Thursday, and 75 mgs of NAD plus Monday, Thursday. Alright? I was told to take boron and introduce more carbs into my diet. In doing some research, it seems like Kisspeptin
11:09Speaker 2Yeah. Go ahead. You got some weight loss, what could we're if your sex hormone binding globulin is high, which it is, it's
11:17Speaker 2going to basically hold down that test. So that's not going to release some of the free tests, which is for people that don't know the free test is what you want. It's going to give you your energy,
11:33Speaker 2And that is what you're low on. So you know that you want to get that down now. Kisspeptin,
11:45Speaker 2not eating enough calories. I'm sure you know this by now that I fast a lot and I was going to really kind of bring down my fasting. I've really been studying it a lot, you know, and kind of circling in and out. But I think fasting is great for many reasons.
12:00Speaker 2But 1 of the things that you can do when you don't, when you fast is you don't eat enough, or you don't definitely don't eat enough protein.
12:17Speaker 2what's been working for me and try this, I still love carnivore. I'm saying like an eighty-twenty carnivore and what I've done with a lot of thinking and like just methodically planning my diet out. I love carnivore too much to just walk away for it. I'm eating carbs
12:32Speaker 2before I work out and carbs after I work out, especially I'll up the carbs on leg day. So generally 40 to maybe 50 carbs before the workout
12:56Speaker 2That works for me. So that will help. I think instead of adding something into the mix,
13:03Speaker 2I think if you just did something like that by making sure you're eating enough calories,
13:13Speaker 2know, if your calories are too low, if you're being overweight, you don't say your weight in here. Did he?
13:24Speaker 2right. So too low calories can actually do what it's doing. So you it's, this is like, you're perfect. It sounds like why you're doing that is you have low calories. I bet you if you just raise your calories and eat more, you're
13:35Speaker 2going to get a little bigger and you're going to feel a little bit better. So try what I'm doing. I literally just posted something today of my fasting protocol and when my carbs. So if you look at the reel that I put today, it's a carousel.
13:47Speaker 2I wrote that up today and how my guys put it together. So we can check that out maybe. Yeah. I agree with everything you said. I think that other
14:11Speaker 3So Yep. Maybe chill on the fasting, listen to JD also add carbs in, but like you did say, Hey, don't wanna add carbs because I wanna stay lean. So cool. Add carbs in, but be smart about when you introduce the That's it. You eat them
14:26Speaker 3pre heavy lifting days. Okay? Like that's what you wanna add them in, like nothing at night. You can have some good
14:34Speaker 3some good healthy natural carbs, like in the morning time. Right? Because then you're moving all day long and burning those off. Right? But so you can add those in and that makes a that will probably make a big difference. Drug wise,
14:46Speaker 3Enclomiphene is something to think about. I think the Kisspeptin, since you're on TRT, you're on TRT. Is it not? Yeah. Is it?
15:00Speaker 3your pituitary is not thinking about making any more natural tests and that's what Kisspeptin
15:21Speaker 3saying I have a lot of testosterone in me. Okay. If you're not on TOT, everything I'm saying is don't worry about it. Cause I don't think he doesn't say that. I don't think he does actually. But,
15:36Speaker 3you want to go straight to the source and if you're willing to do this, pro virin, pro virin is in a It will yeah. Fix it free. It's a great idea. Absolutely. Oh, wow. That's great. It's a super duper mild anabolic androgenic
15:53Speaker 3people the best you'll see out there, people go, oh, I take Proviren because it enhances everything. Well, why does it enhance everything? It literally goes in, so you have your androgen receptor, right, and your sex hormone binding globulin
16:11Speaker 3connects. Once it connects, hey, our body feels that test. Right? But if the whole thing is covered Yeah. With sex hormone binding, then you have this much room for your test to grab on, and and that's not enough. So you take Revirin, it just
16:35Speaker 3is gonna work a whole lot better and your body will work a lot better. That was a good call on that. I didn't think about Proviron. It
16:42Speaker 2really will free up some of your free tests. I would make sure you're on TRT though. Yes.
16:47Speaker 3Get Proviron could shut you down. If anything, Proviron is the 1 that like does it actually on paper. So Proviron will actually kind of boost testosterone,
16:58Speaker 3don't really know. I mean, yeah, it's hard to say because it still is a steroid, but I would yeah. I mean, I if anything,
17:18Speaker 2yes. You know, I mean, your free test is okay. Eightsin. I mean, it's actually bad, but that, that low, that low free test is too low, man. Yeah. And then magnesium, zinc,
17:33Speaker 2do it that in whatever order you want to do it. Good stuff. That was a good question. Mhmm. Like, good stuff. Good stuff.
17:39Speaker 2We've had a question like that in a while. And join the podcast and the community. Keep up the great work. My question is around gout,
17:47Speaker 2which is an, unusual buildup of uric uric acid in the joints, mostly in the toes and feet, causing redness, swelling, and very painful situations that generally last a few days. There's a genetic component
18:20Speaker 3Thoughts on this or anything else? Thank you. Good. Yes, nailed it. So I would absolutely KPV and TA-one and BPC. So like,
18:29Speaker 3KPV for sure is known to just kind of inhibit cascade of of the inflammation that may be happening, and that is what happening when you have gout.
19:15Speaker 3to help reducing inflammation and and because your mitochondria plays a role in how on in oxidative stress and how you handle your body handles inflammation,
19:34Speaker 2Yeah, was curious about his weight. He didn't put his weight. It would help guys if you put your weight, age, some of those things are important when it comes to answering some of these, at least the best that we're able to,
19:52Speaker 2He really answered it. How about alcohol? Cut out alcohol if you think Yeah. That's probably the most given. Hopefully, you don't drink because that definitely can, worsen gout for sure at a buddy that drank so much and he had the worst gout. Can you put, like, blankets over his toes? Jeez. Yeah, I was like, bro, you think you might wanna stop drinking.
20:17Speaker 2you know? And, just kind of go that route, you know? And, that might help. So there you go.
20:32Speaker 3what are peptides to replace the benefit of these PEPs when you're cycling off? If you cycle off GHK-one
21:31Speaker 2Well, no, what do you got? I mean, it's great. You don't say much. It's super vague in regards to the question. What's your age? What's your weight? Are you hormonally optimized? What's your objective?
21:42Speaker 2You're taking these for, obviously I'm assuming for energy to maybe fix your mitochondria,
21:47Speaker 2but you do want to take a break. You know, I speak with experience. You want to take a break. Will already said NAD is going to be great. Hopefully you are on TRT.
21:58Speaker 2I do wish I knew your weight because that kind of is contingent upon that. HGH will always take the top seat.
22:04Speaker 2Then for, I think Will and I both, I think he likes it to Tesof Ipah. I like to just plain Tessa, but, any secretagogue would do well,
22:32Speaker 35 amino 1 MQ is another 1 that can can help out mitochondrial functions. So that's another good 1 to me replacing. And it helps burn fat. Yeah.
22:47Speaker 3depending on why you were taking the GHKCU, BPC and TB-five hundred. Because they do share a lot of the same properties. Yeah. So,
22:54Speaker 3if you're looking, you know, the healing portions. You can put all that on any type of You can add that on anything.
23:08Speaker 3that is the main reason in all these peptides that you want to cycle off, Not that, like, continued use is gonna cause severe withdrawals or anything like that or it's bad for you.
23:19Speaker 3you get that 1. You don't wanna just constantly just flood yourself with copper. Yeah.
23:24Speaker 3That 1 you do want to cycle off for other reasons because it might end up being bad for you after
23:32Speaker 2like we, we, if like the objective is to fix this stuff and then to not run them in perpetuity. I mean, TRT is probably will be around for perpetuity, maybe even HGH, but some, you know, the objective isn't like, let's take these forever. Right?
24:03Speaker 2604 in regards to if it works or not. People say it does, or people say it's great. How can there be such a gap on its efficiency? JD says it's 1 of his top 5,
24:14Speaker 2but others say it's trash. It's very true. I'm intrigued by AOD. Could you go deeper in the peptide
24:34Speaker 2I want it to work right now. Right? So that's not the type of peptide. So the reason I like it in particular is because I'm in pretty good shape. So
24:49Speaker 2So it works great for me. It's, you know, anti obesity drug, its main job is to burn fat. I'm a fat burner guy and
24:57Speaker 2I will always be that. And that's why. So do I think AOD would work against a Retatrutide? Not even close. If you're not hormonally optimized,
25:09Speaker 2and you're not working out much, AOD is going to suck. So that's probably the type of person answering that. Not always, but that's probably why. So it's not going to replace some of the things
25:29Speaker 0I think AOD is great. It literally is my top 5, and I'd just that's why. Yep. Very good answer. Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands you need. From athletic stuff, like a full court pickup game,
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26:20Speaker 3And that is true. There's a lot of reasons. A, like, well, 1st of all, like HGH frag, AOD is just as slightly as is 1
26:32Speaker 3it's, manipulated to be a little bit more stable, but bodybuilders have been taking HGH forever
26:36Speaker 3and then having good results with it. K? And that but it is AOD is should be a, like an adjunct treatment peptide. Right? Like, it should not be your, like, this is my fat burner. Yeah. It's like the sauce on top. Exactly. It's kind of the sauce on top. And it works way better when everything else, like you said, is is going right. Yeah. Right? So a lot of people may say, oh, it doesn't work because they're because they're not doing anything else right, and therefore, is not gonna work. There it does make a huge difference if you take it in a fasted state. So anybody who's taking it with a full stomach,
27:13Speaker 3of food is just basically blunting its effects. Sure. It also is it can degrade really fast and
27:23Speaker 3and you need to mix it with acetic acid, but it can degrade very fast. And so maybe people have checked your sources of where you get this from. Right? You're handling your own handling procedures and because so you don't ruin your own product. Right? That can contribute to people saying that it's crap. Yeah.
27:50Speaker 3right? People think of HGH when this baseball controversy like, oh, HGH, that guy is so ripped. Like, he's doing HGH. Right? They don't they don't and until they take it, like, it's it's it's under it is it's underwhelming from what people really think. Right. It's not gonna be It's an uneducated opinion that you don't know what you're talking about. You have no idea what you're You haven't even, like, studied this at all. And that's the whole real deal. HGH is kind of underwhelming on the fatberg, but it works, but it works over time and subtly. Totally.
28:18Speaker 2Well, like Will says, like, you only sometimes even notice it when you take it out. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, okay, I'm getting a little pudgy. I'll stop taking that shit. You know what mean? Yep. Yeah. Perfect as I said. Alright. Am I up? Yeah.
28:43Speaker 3the school you've created. I love you so much, and peptides have become a way to finally work with my husband on my passion for healthy living. Right on. Several questions here. I'm a 38 year old female, with celiac disease, GI issues, and intestinal
29:11Speaker 3MOTS-1C, and I add AOD on my workout days 3 to 4 days a week. Been on tirzepatide a few months. Recently discovered Retta.
29:22Speaker 3both, but just the last couple of weeks. I also use NAD midday, 3 to 4 days a week, 30 units from a 500 mg vial, which should be just 30 mg.
29:35Speaker 3If you're adding 5 mils, then it's 30 mg. I'm doing basic dosing for all of the above, but still seem to be lacking energy wise. And my sleep debt score stays fairly high. I weight train 4 days a week and get in just enough get in just cardio 1 to 2 days a week. I track my macros to stick to a 140 of protein daily,
29:56Speaker 3at least a 120 ounces of water, and I'm careful about not eating much added sugar. I'm down from 100 50 2 3 months ago down to 1 39,
30:04Speaker 3and I feel a big drop in inflammation. I'm doing basic dosing for all the above, but still seems to be lacking energy wise. Wait a minute.
30:11Speaker 3I think that just repeated. My bad. So did I end that correctly? Yeah. Any suggestions? Here, here it goes. Any suggestions
30:22Speaker 3Any suggestions on labs to watch for? And any suggestions to help out knock out my lower belly fat? That was a great question. Yes, it was. It really was very articulate. And when you go? No, please let me digest it after reading.
30:38Speaker 2I'm going to be very straight with you. I think that you have not checked your hormones. You probably need to be hormonally optimized. I know that's
30:46Speaker 2coming around for ladies, but there's still a lot of ladies that don't know that they need to check their hormones.
30:53Speaker 2you literally could just get on a little bit of testosterone and that could change all of this. The lack of energy, your age,
30:59Speaker 2everything you said, that little pooch at the bottom, that could be testosterone. It could be estrogen. It could be all kinds of things and hormones need to be checked. So without a doubt, I'm almost certain that's what it is. So like thyroid panel, iron,
31:24Speaker 2Will and I talk about this all the time for men because we are men, but it's coming up so much,
31:37Speaker 2You should be horny because that's a thing that God gave us. So if that should be a beacon, if you're not,
31:46Speaker 2And you shouldn't have such low of energy if you're healthy and you're eating right and whatnot. So the fact that you don't have the energy
31:52Speaker 2and I don't know what your sex drive is, but if you don't have a sex drive, I'm going tell you that's the hormones.
31:59Speaker 2And I bet you the testosterone might be your answer, but the hormones will tell you the answer because it's not your, the peptides you take are not going to be working well unless
32:16Speaker 2to find that sweet spot. I'm currently in 1 right now, but I'm doing a lot of research to
32:32Speaker 2because it's obviously for a reason. If you do not sleep, your cortisol is going be high and your cortisol will,
32:39Speaker 2it takes the top seat of everything. If you're not sleeping and your cortisol is high, you will not lose the weight. There's no chance in hell. And it doesn't matter how much testosterone you're on. So
32:49Speaker 2fix your sleep. I have a protocol that has been just life changing for me. So if you, whatever channels that you follow us on, if you just say, Hey, JD said to send this, I will literally, or my team will send you the
33:02Speaker 2protocol that has changed my life. I slept like 8.5 hours last night and I was sleeping 3 for like a year. And like, I'm just like waking up and just feeling like 1000000 bucks. The cortisol is gonna keep you at that. You're not losing that belly fat girl. Then obviously Tesamorelin, once you got it, you get that stuff
33:20Speaker 2in line, the Tesamorelin is gonna be your answer, but it's hormones in my opinion. What you got? You think that's the thing? Yes, but I think that 1 thing ought to be explored with celiac disease and GI issues is like
33:33Speaker 3of the nutrients that you are actually eating. Good point. Right? That could be absolutely
33:43Speaker 3your body, just your gut, not being able to absorb properly all the nutrients that you're actually putting in, and then that resulting in lower energy. So I would think of that and there is some, some, you asked, there's some panels that can give us some clues to that, some blood panels. I wrote those down so to tell you slowly.
34:02Speaker 3Sleep, yeah, I mean, your sleep needs to get better, right? That's going to affect everything. And 100% your cortisol,
34:14Speaker 3Who knows? Again, with these peptides, it's crazy how like some, once you find that sweet spot, right? There's 1 little, 1 little like, maladjusted thing in each individual's body, right, and you sometimes use the peptide that actually affects that and then bam, everything works better. So I
34:42Speaker 3not necessarily for the sleep, but just for everything. For the belly fat, right, it is there. It is it is
35:06Speaker 3So the growth hormone secretagogue specifically Tesamorelin do. For the panel, here's what I would try and go get tested for. So a full
35:54Speaker 2you probably have heard me talk about a lot. I've been dealing with it for years. There's another question coming up about,
35:59Speaker 2some good stuff and it's, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. But, again, we can feel great and we should feel great. I think that's how God created us, but that takes work.
36:10Speaker 2Takes sometimes a lot of like stuff doing a lot of stuff that we don't want to do and checking your gut, checking your hormones without a doubt should be 1st just because it's the easiest 1. And then go into what if you use Doctor. Scott, what my opinion is, he'll run a stool test, which is kind of gross,
36:36Speaker 2mean, we had, Paul on here and like we, you know, we said for the autoimmune stuff, which is gut related mostly, is going to be like 3 weeks of the TA-one
36:50Speaker 2Which we're working on. And then we got, the LL-thirty 7, which you're gonna run super low dose at like 100 micrograms for 40 days. And then you're going to follow it up and sweep it all out with VIP for 10. So
37:02Speaker 2that's on do I think we have that on our site, right? So if not- We should go check to make sure.
37:29Speaker 2Going to start SS-thirty 1 with MOTS-C and then NAD this week. Could use some growth hormone too. Just a lot out there. It's a bit overwhelming.
37:46Speaker 3I mean, it's hard to give you a defined path without telling us what you want to do or what the issues are.
38:00Speaker 3I think that as starting with SS-thirty 1, then going to MOTS-1s): And then AD is a good choice. And for overall
38:08Speaker 3like longevity health, those are a good call. And you seem to be listening and doing those things.
38:14Speaker 3That's great growth hormone support. I would take Tesamorelin plus Ipamorelin blend. You're 53, so you are a candidate for just pure HGH,
38:26Speaker 3Okay. But Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin blend for the growth hormone because yeah, for sure. You probably need it. At 53, it just is what it is and it will help with everything.
38:53Speaker 22 IU, done deal. And, like you said, you didn't tell us your objectives, but you should be on HGH 53 in my opinion. If you go on to our school and into the, what's the 2nd tier called?
39:19Speaker 3it's $25 a month. That's it. Right? We spend this I mean, if I if I need to justify why we charge money, it's like, we need to feed the children, and it's a whole lot of,
39:31Speaker 3it's a whole lot of work and expertise put into that. Okay? Years and years and years and years and We years of have a really good friend of ours, Will, was saying before this, who is just
39:41Speaker 2like, kinda like a brother, like, just such a good dude, and he signed up for that without even telling us because we would have given it to him for free for sure. And he would he called Will and said, dude, this is awesome. He's like, oh, man. And for him to say that Yeah. Speaks 4 And he's in this business and I've been in this business for him to say that we were both, wow, that's rad. Yeah.
40:03Speaker 3go in, I would suggest you go in there and there's a whole bunch of just see if anything goes, oh, that's what I'm lacking.
40:25Speaker 3selling it right, selling it right, setting it right now. I'm 43. It's starting to get my health back on track 2 months ago,
40:32Speaker 32 months ago through better nutrition, exercise, and peptides. Current stack is a 1 mg of Tessa,
40:45Speaker 31 mg 5 m, 1 MQ daily, the Wolverine to the hip daily for an old injury, Wolverine to the hip daily for okay. 30 mg of NAD 3 times a week.
40:58Speaker 3micrograms AOD daily. Gone for $2.25 to $1.95 and feeling great. I have my total and free T check 1 month ago and I was at 4 65
41:13Speaker 3continue doing what I'm doing for 1 to 2 months to see if the lifestyle change naturally helps my numbers.
41:23Speaker 3and we'll start that tomorrow. Please help me with any advice. Good plan. Should I start the DHEA
42:01Speaker 3and frankly good for you. If you want to, like you have made progress, no doubt, Now from 02/25 to 195 and you're feeling great. So like if you're in this progress chain and momentum is train and momentum is rolling, don't get off. Hell yeah. Keep writing it. The test, despite
42:20Speaker 3you're still making that much progress. And that's really, that's, that's impressive. Amazing.
42:32Speaker 3Cool. If you wanna wait and see if your lifestyle changes really helped that, I'd be interested to know how much they helped that also. I don't know if they actually will. I think ultimately you probably want to go into testosterone and that will open up your life to
42:49Speaker 3but just good for you, dude. I would keep on going as far as and should I start the DHEA? Yes.
43:25Speaker 3the way that the injectable is. So we're not worried about that. We recommend it. Absolutely.
43:35Speaker 2So it was funny. Like we said, we don't talk about these until we sit down, which is always, it's been a lot better, but I don't know, man. I'm going to say, just get on testosterone. Sorry, this is my thing. Mean, your levels are there. You feel good, but you could feel freaking amazing.
43:48Speaker 2And in 3 weeks you could be like, Oh my gosh, I forgot how good that you can feel. That's Tesofensine. And that's just my opinion now. For whatever reason you want to hold off each his own man, I respect it. I just think that it's easy fix. That's why I want to know your age.
44:04Speaker 2If you were 34, that would answer would probably be a little bit different. It's like, keep where you're at, man. And see what you could do. But at your age, I would say definitely go on TRT.
44:18Speaker 2What is your current lifestyle, calorie intake? Those things are going be huge. I don't think that you should do
44:25Speaker 2until you get those hormones optimized in my opinion. I don't know if you were going to agree with that, but you can. But again, I think if you get your hormones optimized,
44:34Speaker 2you're feeling great now, but what also is going to happen is these peptides are going to work way better because you're hormonally optimized. So if you feel good now, you're going to feel great. The money you're spending on that peptides are going to be worth more because they're going to work better. So that's my stance. Definitely
45:11Speaker 2Mind you, he is a busy father, husband, and worker, so he doesn't schedule time for the gym and eats on the go. He's just
46:03Speaker 2I would just, I just want to like it be done right now because he's not gonna be able to work out. Come on bro. Like here, I'm going to be blunt with you because it's just, I think that it's deserved
46:12Speaker 2right here. We're all busy fathers. I can guarantee it doesn't work as much as me and this dude, but we still make time for the gym and we still make time to better our lives. And here's my stance on it. Our our children are products of the product.
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47:15Speaker 2Either your kids are gonna become that. So if you're not gonna lift weights and you're not gonna better your life because you're busy, your kids are gonna be like that in my opinion. They're worth as products of the products, man, and that's, I scream it from the rooftops that, you
47:32Speaker 2I'll give you a perfect example because I'm not perfect. So my wife today asked me if I would take my son to school. And I said, I have to go prepare for a podcast and there's just no way, babe.
47:41Speaker 2And Alcoholics Anonymous has taught me a lot. 1 of the best lessons is I'm not responsible for my 1st thought, but I am responsible for my 2nd thought. Now I go outside and do some breathing techniques and some grounding. And as I did that, I ended in a prayer and I caught up to myself, which my 2nd thought was,
47:57Speaker 2Take your kid to school. So I told her I'd take him to school. Not only that, I didn't rush. I took him to get a donut and I sat with him and I talked with him about life. I talked with him about his birthday weekend coming up because we're taking him to Legoland this weekend
48:29Speaker 2and that's life. You need to, we're not going to take injections for the rest of your life. The objective is to fix your
48:46Speaker 2and then these things are on top are going to work. If you're just trying to build the 3rd floor without the base, you're going to have the same problem. It doesn't matter, dude. So I'm going to challenge you to
49:04Speaker 2and get your ass in the gym and this stuff will work better. Sorry, I'm so blunt, but it's just my style, which got well. Yeah. I 2nd everything that he just said, like
49:27Speaker 3also like 1 giant thing, so 15 mg of Retatrutide, I mean, just so that's like That's the most you can do. Maxed out dose.
49:44Speaker 3Then now we're going to 3 mg of Retta, which is right above the starting dose. Yeah. Right? Like, what makes us think that that would actually do anything
49:57Speaker 3this a lot of the weight you'd lost. Right? You've also, like, again, we talked about this, killed our natural drive to want to eat because tirzepatide
50:08Speaker 3Okay? So your body is trying to fight back against that so hard the whole time. And now that you've stopped it, it gets unleashed.
50:17Speaker 3And now we're barely taking any Retta. So no doubt probably experienced a whole lot of appetite come back and even stronger than it ever was before at the beginning.
50:34Speaker 3want to default back to JD's answer is it's not really just all about just pumping the drugs and up and upping doses and upping doses. Right? Like light, so a whole lot of lifestyle needs to change,
50:49Speaker 3Try and tough it out. Like, cool, man. In in good. Okay. In the interim, let's increase the increase the Retta
51:12Speaker 2You gotta prove it. You wanna get literally, like, seriously, like, dude, I will have to, if I had to, I'd wake up at 2 to go to the damn gym. I just would get it in. Now I'm programmed myself to be that. Wasn't overnight, but you gotta start,
51:27Speaker 2you got to start retraining your brain, dude. Like you're a bad ass, you're a warrior. It's inside of your soul,
51:48Speaker 3I think so. Okay. What's up guys. I've been following you since January. I love the insight and content about peptides and wellness. I'm a firefighter in Texas or in treatment, Texas, man, and was involved in a bad accident in 2025. I have burns to my hands, which required partial amputations to fingertips
52:04Speaker 3and 2nd degree burns around my body. Damn. So a body got me in, a buddy got me into peptides, which have been amazing and helped me immensely with recovery.
52:13Speaker 3Luckily I am back at work and able to be 90% of what I was and so I'm about it, man. Thank God they let you back in to do that. So good for you. Then I recommended to wellness. I recommitted
52:26Speaker 3to wellness and dialing in my diet. I was 2 80 pounds when I started and now 2 20. I currently take TRT, BPC, KPV,
52:40Speaker 3Any other suggestions and other protocols for recovery 1 and just keeping up the good fight
52:45Speaker 2on growing old, but staying optimized? Thanks again. Keep out the rad work. You guys are awesome. Love it. That's rad dude. Yeah. I mean, I'll speak for probably Will and I, if you, however you follow us on our channels, like we would love if you could shoot me a DM and tell me that you're this guy will help you out a little bit because 1st
53:03Speaker 2off you lost weight just you've been through that. We are huge, huge supporters of police.
53:11Speaker 2So shoot me a DM please, if you don't mind. And, we'd like to help you out with some stuff.
53:15Speaker 2In regards to what you should take, I think you're running it right. Are you T are you on TRT? What is your age, my brother? I do not know. So that plays a big role in how you answer this.
53:34Speaker 2That's going to help with you and your injuries a lot. Would say jump and go to HGH dude because of that.
53:41Speaker 2The granddaddy baby, TRT, are you hormonally optimized? He does say that. He is. Yeah. I currently TRT. Okay, cool. I missed that. I'm sorry. So cool. So you are, so, NAD SS-31I
53:56Speaker 2for sure. And, again, hit us up wherever you find our channels, let us know it's you, wounded fireman, and we'd like to give you something.
54:19Speaker 3HGH or an HGH secretagogue, Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin. Will help burn fat. It'll help keep muscle on you. It'll help add more muscle and help everything
54:55Speaker 2Have you heard of any, have you heard of anyone with Barrett's syndrome taking BPC-157
55:07Speaker 2for my condition. I don't really want to take that the rest of my life. I'm doing GLO lately and CLO on the way. Doing every other day with BPC on the other days. Thanks for your input. I listened to every episode. All right.
55:25Speaker 2It sucks. I've dealt with it for a lot for a long time. I've gone to a couple of different GI doctors and it's horrible. What has worked for me,
55:42Speaker 2A Doctor. Scott, which I didn't put this together, but thinks it's the gut is actually now kind of causing this constant.
55:49Speaker 2Another doctor actually came in and actually agreed with us, so that made me feel better. But what has worked with me is carbs
55:57Speaker 2Every night, if I eat carbs, I will be literally burping up food. I know it's disgusting, but that is what GERD is. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. I eat ice cream. I kind of burp up ice cream and have to spit it, spit it out. It sucks to hear. I know it's gross. My wife calls it a spit cup, but it sucks. So I feel for you is my point. It literally sucks.
56:24Speaker 2for 50 days, and then the VIP for 10 days. If we do not have that protocol up on the website, we'll put it up.
56:38Speaker 2he's the person that we trust. He'll run a, he'll run a, blood panel and he'll probably for you need to run a stool test.
56:46Speaker 2And, he's going to have to reboot your gut, which, you know, so little tricks of my trade. I'm trying to see if my wife sent me the prescription that my doctor put me on. Helped a little bit, but she didn't.
57:02Speaker 2man, but, it's also hell. So I feel, feel you on that. So cut down or at least lower your carbs really has helped for me if I eat like chips and stuff. Gosh, I'm paying for it all night. It's horrible. Some of the reason I've done carnivore.
57:17Speaker 2So yeah, that's kind of what I got. I think that you're killing it in regards to some of the stuff you're taking, but I don't think this is going to heal you. You got to heal the gut and really reboot it.
57:32Speaker 2not super Western medicine, GI doctor. He's going to give you those pills forever and maybe eventually a surgery.
57:40Speaker 3So I hope that helps. Yeah. I think GHK-3s): He's better expert on this 1, but like BPC,
58:16Speaker 3chance. So just, I would absolutely try it, see what it could help a lot, but maybe not completely fix the issue, but we don't really know. And then I would actually, yeah,
58:27Speaker 2I worked to go find a doctor and do everything else. JD just Yeah, it sucks, man. I feel free to it. It sucks. It's horrible. But for whatever reason, here we are.
58:36Speaker 2Take the time to try to heal that gut as I am, and I'll keep you posted because you know, I post everything about every channel I have, how I'm feeling on everything. So I'm very blunt. If it sucks, it sucks. If I'm being fixed,
58:55Speaker 2are kind of similar in regards to their approach to things. So we'll be kind of putting them on there too. So it's like Barrett's Barrett's syndrome, right? The root cause is
59:23Speaker 3BPC has evidence actually for both of those to affect both of them, but the gastric motility, for sure, basically move things moving through your GI tract. Right?
59:52Speaker 2are great. Wow. These are probably the best set of questions I think so far, not to knock the other questions. They just really, again, give us your age, weight,
1:00:00Speaker 2man or woman. That's going to be like just necessities and objectives. If we don't have your objectives, like what should I take? I don't know.
1:00:08Speaker 2We don't know anything about you, but that will help us answer these, but a great questions guys. We're gonna have,
1:00:15Speaker 2people out in the stands, we're gonna have Joe Brown, who is a good friend of mine. He's actually been somewhat of a good friend, but a mentor. He really helped me when I 1st started my
1:00:26Speaker 2Instagram channel, he was a big part of that. So I'm going to have him on my personal podcast and then Will and I are going to sit with him on peptide podcast because he is a very big peptide kit and, he used to be overweight
1:00:41Speaker 2And so we're gonna dig into some of his, protocols. Brilliant. Guys, insanely off the charts, intelligent.
1:00:52Speaker 2any Joe Brandt fans, you will love this 1. It'll be, it'll be cool. He's a good guy. Yeah.
1:01:06Speaker 2like even like steroid stacks and stuff like that. We're not saying you should, we're just saying that we people are going to do it because we had questions. We have put some of that stuff together on the VIP.
1:01:16Speaker 2Because that's where some of those questions are. So you need to add the VIP. It's not about money. It's about the time that it takes to do all this stuff. We're extremely busy, especially this guy that's all this stuff makes it look good.
1:01:32Speaker 2but we do have 1 brewing. We do not want to do anything 0.5 last year and we were, you know, we've just, we've been busy. We're So going to spend the time to put a really good 1 so people can come and meet the team and we want to meet you more importantly.
1:01:46Speaker 2So we will be working on that, but we do have something brewing around the 27th, which we will drop around the 27th.