Peptide Q&A #45 – High SHBG, AOD Debate, Barrett's Syndrome & Burn Recovery Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-45-high-shbg-aod-debate-barrett-s-syndrome-burn-recovery/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands you need from athletic stuff, like a full court pickup game, 0:06 Speaker 0: swish, 0:07 Speaker 0: to athletic stuff, 0:09 Speaker 0: like 0.5 mile stroll. 0:10 Speaker 0: Get those steps in. 0:12 Speaker 0: And for morning hikes up the mountain trail, good pace to nighttime ghost stories from the camping chair. 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She's like, I'll do it. You just stay there. I'm not very good at that. I'm like, no. I'm like, I'd rather go do the work and you relax. 1:27 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1:28 Speaker 3: But actually, I would because I also am not good at sitting still. 1:32 Speaker 3: For very long now, dude. Like, I can't just lay I can't just, like, lay there in the sun 1:39 Speaker 2: for, like, 2 hours Really? And do nothing. Oh, man. I can't remember. I need a book, I guess. Yeah. For sure. Is too damn hot, and then I am just uncomfortable. Isn't that crazy as you are younger? I mean, everybody's shared this and has probably thought this where when you're young, 1:53 Speaker 2: like, you don't take naps, you don't wanna take a nap, you don't wanna sit by a pool and read. Like, as you get older, naps, man. I just 2:00 Speaker 2: If I could just get a nap in the day, would be rad for so long. And then 2, like laying by a pool and like being having no questions asked to me except for all of me just read this book. Yeah. That's great. That's what I love reading. Yes. Like Yeah. You like stoicism? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That I read. I can't remember the name of it. I thought you'd like it. It's on stoicism. 2:18 Speaker 2: It's a very cool trait, dude. It's a very cool yes. Like, don't I guess Keep your your wits. Don't let people have the energy of 2:27 Speaker 3: revenue up. Uh-huh. That's Everything is all about yeah. I mean, it really is kind of Jedi stuff. Like, stoicism is all about not wanting for anything, not needing anything, not 2:37 Speaker 3: ever allowing anybody to affect you, 2:40 Speaker 3: and always having integrity 2:43 Speaker 3: and doing only things for the right reasons. Huge. 2:46 Speaker 3: You know who's big on that and, like, does a lot of practice with this is Kate's father. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Interesting. If you ask Jeff, he'll he'll tell you all about it. And he really yeah. It's cool. I mean, it's pretty hardcore if you go true stoic. Right? 3:01 Speaker 2: Yeah. The book that I was reading, it was interesting. It was, it had even talked about how, 3:06 Speaker 2: what's his name? What's it? The, president Kennedy when, when, like, all that stuff was going on with 3:13 Speaker 2: what was the war we were dealing with? It was the Cuban Missile Crisis. Cuban Missile Crisis. And I was talking about how much pressure that he was under. And 3:22 Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly what, but he because he was stoic and, like, kept calm because all his generals were like, bomb bomb bomb bomb, like, boom up and Right. Because he kept us cool. 3:32 Speaker 3: We are we have an Earth. Are alive. Yeah. 3:35 Speaker 2: Why there's this whole them. Earth isn't this nuclear wasteland. Right. That's good for him. Yeah, so last week we were talking about how, 3:44 Speaker 2: presents, I'm not big on presents, but this 3:47 Speaker 2: is how I get presents. I'm not the best present giver, but I will tell you. SLU-1G gave me a iron sharpens iron, like Yeah. Yeah. Thing long time ago, and it still hangs in my office at the house. And, because I love iron sharpens iron. Proverbs 27 17. So I got this big dude. This 4:03 Speaker 2: thing, which is which is 4:05 Speaker 2: the band in the arena. The Theodore 4:08 Speaker 2: Roosevelt is a famous speech. I'd imagine. Most 4:12 Speaker 2: people 4:13 Speaker 3: know it because it's such a famous speech, 4:16 Speaker 2: and, it's always meant something to me. A good friend of mine gave out to me as I started my Instagram channel, I was getting tacked heavily, 4:24 Speaker 2: like just getting 4:25 Speaker 2: just the vipers attacking me, but talks about how, 4:29 Speaker 2: you know, the men who 4:31 Speaker 2: put themselves on the field are the ones that are gonna succeed and the dudes in the stands are gonna throw down shit, but men are on the field taking the bullets and taking the wounds are the ones that succeeds. 4:42 Speaker 3: It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. I think the last line of that says, right, 4:49 Speaker 3: the hero, like, 4:50 Speaker 3: the true goal is to 4:52 Speaker 3: you're you will fail. Okay? But you actually have the least achievement. 4:57 Speaker 3: Have a chance to be a damn hero, and you are still a hero if you try and fail. At least you try. Last line is 5:03 Speaker 2: Who have the best knows in the end the triumph 5:06 Speaker 2: over high achievement and who at worst, 5:09 Speaker 2: if he fails, 5:10 Speaker 2: at least he fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls 5:18 Speaker 3: who neither know victory nor defeat. Who amused us. 5:22 Speaker 3: Just sit in mediocrity, 5:24 Speaker 2: which men 5:25 Speaker 2: are supposed to climb 5:28 Speaker 3: shit, climb Everest, whatever it is your Everest is like, you know, and I said, do big shit and 5:34 Speaker 3: try and try failure 5:37 Speaker 3: is a part 5:38 Speaker 3: of life and success. Like if we just only participate in things that we know we're going to win at, that's no Well, 5:46 Speaker 2: the reason that I gave that to you is because right, 5:50 Speaker 2: you know, 5:51 Speaker 2: comfort is the enemy of progress. Like, so I've said it on this podcast numerous times, if you're new, Will doesn't like being on cameras. It's just not his gig. That's why he's in the back doing the stuff and I'm fine with the cameras. But somehow 6:03 Speaker 2: I did get him on here and it was awkward at 1st because it wasn't a thing. It's awkward for anybody, was awkward at me 1st, but he's always done really well. 6:10 Speaker 3: But you got uncomfortable bro and you grew. Look at you're kicking ass now, so that's why I thought of that. Good. It's funny, you know, even so my mother's got her master's in theology of religion and we were at this kind of bible study group the other night. And I was talking to our friend, 6:26 Speaker 3: I said, so, you know, what's up with the 6:30 Speaker 3: prodigal son story? Right? Like all of these, but like everybody always says, Oh, the people use the word, Oh, the prodigal son. Look, he's the 1 who's awesome and did good. But the story, 6:41 Speaker 3: if we all know- Even though he spent all the money. The prodigal son is the screw off. Right? Like the good doting son who stayed there, watched the family, tended the farm, kept everything stable and alive, 6:54 Speaker 3: and did everything he was told to do. Then you have the other 1 who left, partied, blew all the money, did nothing. He comes back and he's celebrated and this other 1 is put down. Well, what's up with that, dude? Well, it's about God's grace is new every day, so he's gonna love you no matter what. Yep. That is it. My mother being, 7:12 Speaker 3: having to write like theses in 7:14 Speaker 3: theology and religion, her her point, she said, here's the deal. And you'll see this recurring time and time and time again into other Bible stories. She's in her argument, right, is that basically the Bible, it is about rewarding the person who just dares. 7:30 Speaker 3: God doesn't care. 7:31 Speaker 3: Basically, it's a a story of, like, go fail. Just do something different. Go try. Put yourself out there Yeah. And do something crazy. 7:40 Speaker 3: Well, that's why. You failed, but, like, that's how we progress and we get better, and that's how we actually instead of just idling, sitting in mediocrity, 7:48 Speaker 2: just doing, this is what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm gonna do this. And you slowly die like that. Yep. I mean, it's not a knock on people that are fine with just kinda getting by. It's not it's not a knock on those people, but I believe 7:59 Speaker 2: that's such kind of the Genesis of warrior makers. You know, it kind of just happened how it happened, but it's been such a blessing of how it happens because 8:07 Speaker 2: that warrior gene 8:09 Speaker 2: is another way that I would say this is the black sheep, but guys like you or me, we've 8:14 Speaker 2: tore our lives down. But let's talk about the other son. 8:19 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear a story about a dude that always had his shit together. That's boring. I don't want hear a story about a dude who ripped his damn life to pieces and then had the balls to get back up and like make something better of yourself because 8:31 Speaker 2: oftentimes you can't see the beauty of the light unless you've seen the darkness. You 8:35 Speaker 2: know what I mean? You don't just can't really, like, I remember when I 1st got sober, I went down and sat by the beach and like for the 1st time probably ever, 8:43 Speaker 2: I was noticing the beauty of trees. I was noticing the beauty of just the calmness of sitting at the beach and being content with sitting at the beach. I had never felt that. And that serenity 8:54 Speaker 2: that comes along with 8:57 Speaker 2: sobriety, but I think 8:58 Speaker 2: chasing 3 growth. We're 9:00 Speaker 2: not being comfortable. We're supposed to be uncomfortable. But again, you know how I say it, like the men that have that warrior gene, the prodigal son, if you will change the world because they take The only way that you might fail on your ass you probably will, 9:14 Speaker 3: and it's good that you do because why you learn? Absolutely. 9:17 Speaker 3: You learn. And maybe you're a marker for others, but that still progresses everybody, 9:23 Speaker 3: the species, or else we would still be just hunting and gathering and just eating berries. 9:28 Speaker 3: We did no fire. To do a hard right. Nobody 9:31 Speaker 3: had the risk Yeah. To to to go and fight the damn You go fight the lion or go kill kill the animal. It's hard to kill. Anybody wants to meet and be like, damn, that's good. Are you guys sick of these berries? I'm 9:42 Speaker 2: gonna go off and try to fight this guy. 9:44 Speaker 3: So, 9:45 Speaker 1: good stuff, man. That's cool. I like I, it a 9:48 Speaker 2: got 1 for myself because I usually get 1 for me and 1 for you and my wife does that stuff. Babe, that's a little big. So 9:55 Speaker 2: I like it, But it's dope. So good stuff, man. Today 9:59 Speaker 2: is a Q and A, everybody's favorite, man. And we love you guys. You're always so kind in 10:05 Speaker 3: your questions and comments. So we appreciate every 1 of you guys. We'll kick us off. Sure. All right. Question 1. Hi, JD and Will. Love the podcast. I listen every week. I'm 38 year old male with 8 10 total tests. My free test is 11. 10:19 Speaker 3: All right. Bioavailable 10:21 Speaker 3: is 3 10. I feel good, but want to feel optimal. My SHBG 10:26 Speaker 3: is above the normal range. Right? Through consultation, 10:30 Speaker 3: it seems like I'm not eating enough carbs, but I want to stay lean. 10:33 Speaker 3: I do 16 hour fast 4 times a week and stick to meat, fat, and fruit, and I do some form of working out every day with 4 days of lifting heavy each week. Currently, I'm taking Retta 0.5 mg 10:46 Speaker 3: Monday, 10:47 Speaker 3: Thursday, and 75 mgs of NAD plus Monday, Thursday. Alright? I was told to take boron and introduce more carbs into my diet. In doing some research, it seems like Kisspeptin 10:58 Speaker 3: might help free up some of my testosterone. 11:01 Speaker 3: Is there anything else I should be considering? 11:04 Speaker 3: How would you go about addressing this? Good 1. That's a good question. 11:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. Go ahead. You got some weight loss, what could we're if your sex hormone binding globulin is high, which it is, it's 11:17 Speaker 2: going to basically hold down that test. So that's not going to release some of the free tests, which is for people that don't know the free test is what you want. It's going to give you your energy, 11:28 Speaker 2: most clarity of thought. 11:30 Speaker 2: Sex drive. We all want that sex drive. 11:33 Speaker 2: And that is what you're low on. So you know that you want to get that down now. Kisspeptin, 11:39 Speaker 2: know, you can work, but I think 11:41 Speaker 2: in regards to your fasting and whatnot, you could be 11:45 Speaker 2: not eating enough calories. I'm sure you know this by now that I fast a lot and I was going to really kind of bring down my fasting. I've really been studying it a lot, you know, and kind of circling in and out. But I think fasting is great for many reasons. 12:00 Speaker 2: But 1 of the things that you can do when you don't, when you fast is you don't eat enough, or you don't definitely don't eat enough protein. 12:07 Speaker 2: So you want to increase your protein. Now you can increase your carbs 12:12 Speaker 2: if you want, 12:13 Speaker 2: but I would just make sure you're eating enough calories. 12:16 Speaker 2: And 12:17 Speaker 2: what's been working for me and try this, I still love carnivore. I'm saying like an eighty-twenty carnivore and what I've done with a lot of thinking and like just methodically planning my diet out. I love carnivore too much to just walk away for it. I'm eating carbs 12:32 Speaker 2: before I work out and carbs after I work out, especially I'll up the carbs on leg day. So generally 40 to maybe 50 carbs before the workout 12:42 Speaker 2: and then around that same after workout 12:46 Speaker 2: and then I fast. And so at nighttime it's, 12:49 Speaker 2: it's protein and it's, I'll bring the fat down a little bit because of the carbs, 12:54 Speaker 2: which is really high protein. 12:56 Speaker 2: That works for me. So that will help. I think instead of adding something into the mix, 13:03 Speaker 2: I think if you just did something like that by making sure you're eating enough calories, 13:10 Speaker 2: that's going to change it a lot. You 13:13 Speaker 2: know, if your calories are too low, if you're being overweight, you don't say your weight in here. Did he? 13:20 Speaker 3: But it sounded like you didn't. 13:22 Speaker 3: So you, 13:24 Speaker 2: right. So too low calories can actually do what it's doing. So you it's, this is like, you're perfect. It sounds like why you're doing that is you have low calories. I bet you if you just raise your calories and eat more, you're 13:35 Speaker 2: going to get a little bigger and you're going to feel a little bit better. So try what I'm doing. I literally just posted something today of my fasting protocol and when my carbs. So if you look at the reel that I put today, it's a carousel. 13:47 Speaker 2: I wrote that up today and how my guys put it together. So we can check that out maybe. Yeah. I agree with everything you said. I think that other 13:54 Speaker 3: it is very true. I think that the calories need to go up a little 14:01 Speaker 3: restriction and low, like, insulin signaling 14:05 Speaker 3: and 14:06 Speaker 3: fasting 14:07 Speaker 3: can absolutely contribute to an elevated SHBG. 14:11 Speaker 3: So Yep. Maybe chill on the fasting, listen to JD also add carbs in, but like you did say, Hey, don't wanna add carbs because I wanna stay lean. So cool. Add carbs in, but be smart about when you introduce the That's it. You eat them 14:26 Speaker 3: pre heavy lifting days. Okay? Like that's what you wanna add them in, like nothing at night. You can have some good 14:34 Speaker 3: some good healthy natural carbs, like in the morning time. Right? Because then you're moving all day long and burning those off. Right? But so you can add those in and that makes a that will probably make a big difference. Drug wise, 14:46 Speaker 3: Enclomiphene is something to think about. I think the Kisspeptin, since you're on TRT, you're on TRT. Is it not? Yeah. Is it? 14:53 Speaker 3: Kisspeptin may not do it because 14:57 Speaker 3: basically if you're on TRT, 15:00 Speaker 3: your pituitary is not thinking about making any more natural tests and that's what Kisspeptin 15:06 Speaker 3: does and so it kinda shuts off the Kisspeptin 15:09 Speaker 3: from working. 15:10 Speaker 3: But you can try Enclomiphene, 15:12 Speaker 3: would do the same thing, but it does not, it is not, it starts, it works downstream. 15:18 Speaker 3: So it's not affected by your pituitary already 15:21 Speaker 3: saying I have a lot of testosterone in me. Okay. If you're not on TOT, everything I'm saying is don't worry about it. Cause I don't think he doesn't say that. I don't think he does actually. But, 15:33 Speaker 3: and Klomiphene is a good idea. Also the, the, 15:36 Speaker 3: you want to go straight to the source and if you're willing to do this, pro virin, pro virin is in a It will yeah. Fix it free. It's a great idea. Absolutely. Oh, wow. That's great. It's a super duper mild anabolic androgenic 15:49 Speaker 3: steroid. Right? It's an oral. It's a tablet. 15:52 Speaker 3: And 15:53 Speaker 3: people the best you'll see out there, people go, oh, I take Proviren because it enhances everything. Well, why does it enhance everything? It literally goes in, so you have your androgen receptor, right, and your sex hormone binding globulin 16:05 Speaker 3: essentially binds to this whole receptor 16:08 Speaker 3: and but we need this receptor. That's where the testosterone 16:11 Speaker 3: connects. Once it connects, hey, our body feels that test. Right? But if the whole thing is covered Yeah. With sex hormone binding, then you have this much room for your test to grab on, and and that's not enough. So you take Revirin, it just 16:26 Speaker 3: tears that all off and makes that androgen receptor fresh, 16:30 Speaker 3: and now everything can attach to it. So now all the tests, everything else, 16:35 Speaker 3: is gonna work a whole lot better and your body will work a lot better. That was a good call on that. I didn't think about Proviron. It 16:42 Speaker 2: really will free up some of your free tests. I would make sure you're on TRT though. Yes. 16:47 Speaker 3: Get Proviron could shut you down. If anything, Proviron is the 1 that like does it actually on paper. So Proviron will actually kind of boost testosterone, 16:54 Speaker 3: natural testosterone. Now in practice, 16:58 Speaker 3: don't really know. I mean, yeah, it's hard to say because it still is a steroid, but I would yeah. I mean, I if anything, 17:05 Speaker 3: Proviron would be the 1 that I would say is probably is better off, 17:09 Speaker 3: you can maybe get away with not taking being on tests. Yeah. 17:12 Speaker 3: But better with tests because everything is. 17:15 Speaker 2: Well, you're 38. So, 17:18 Speaker 2: yes. You know, I mean, your free test is okay. Eightsin. I mean, it's actually bad, but that, that low, that low free test is too low, man. Yeah. And then magnesium, zinc, 17:26 Speaker 3: are also good micronutrients 17:28 Speaker 3: and boron. 17:29 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Try them all. 17:31 Speaker 3: So see what, 17:33 Speaker 2: do it that in whatever order you want to do it. Good stuff. That was a good question. Mhmm. Like, good stuff. Good stuff. 17:39 Speaker 2: We've had a question like that in a while. And join the podcast and the community. Keep up the great work. My question is around gout, 17:47 Speaker 2: which is an, unusual buildup of uric uric acid in the joints, mostly in the toes and feet, causing redness, swelling, and very painful situations that generally last a few days. There's a genetic component 18:00 Speaker 2: to Galtona family members who suffer 18:02 Speaker 2: from affliction intermediately. 18:05 Speaker 2: Are there any peptides that have been shown to prevent it or at least, 18:10 Speaker 2: I crossed over that, lower the symptoms, the inflammatory 18:14 Speaker 2: response mitigation, 18:16 Speaker 2: has 18:16 Speaker 2: KPV 18:17 Speaker 2: and TA-one come to mind? 18:20 Speaker 3: Thoughts on this or anything else? Thank you. Good. Yes, nailed it. So I would absolutely KPV and TA-one and BPC. So like, 18:29 Speaker 3: KPV for sure is known to just kind of inhibit cascade of of the inflammation that may be happening, and that is what happening when you have gout. 18:39 Speaker 3: BPC 18:40 Speaker 3: as well. So KPV, 18:43 Speaker 3: TA-one, 18:44 Speaker 3: BPC, 18:45 Speaker 3: and then even some honorable mentions. The funny thing is when you read about AOD, 18:49 Speaker 3: it's actually kind of this weird 18:51 Speaker 3: research finding that AOD can 18:54 Speaker 3: help with inflammation in like tendon 18:57 Speaker 3: and joint 18:58 Speaker 3: recovery. 18:59 Speaker 3: It's like, how does that even work? 19:02 Speaker 3: Because it's now, I guess it's a derivative of of it comes from the HGH chain, 19:07 Speaker 3: but it has none of that growth possibility. But 19:11 Speaker 3: SS-thirty 1, honorable mention also for this 19:15 Speaker 3: to help reducing inflammation and and because your mitochondria plays a role in how on in oxidative stress and how you handle your body handles inflammation, 19:26 Speaker 3: and AOD might also be something to throw it out at it. But TA-1BPC 19:30 Speaker 3: and KPV 19:32 Speaker 3: are the top obvious winners. 19:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, was curious about his weight. He didn't put his weight. It would help guys if you put your weight, age, some of those things are important when it comes to answering some of these, at least the best that we're able to, 19:44 Speaker 2: he already said TA1 and KPV. 19:47 Speaker 2: Amazing. It's going to lower your inflammation and boost your immunity. 19:52 Speaker 2: He really answered it. How about alcohol? Cut out alcohol if you think Yeah. That's probably the most given. Hopefully, you don't drink because that definitely can, worsen gout for sure at a buddy that drank so much and he had the worst gout. Can you put, like, blankets over his toes? Jeez. Yeah, I was like, bro, you think you might wanna stop drinking. 20:09 Speaker 3: And then sugar, which obviously goes along with alcohol, but, 20:13 Speaker 2: clean up the diet, 20:14 Speaker 2: maybe cut out some carbs for a bit, 20:17 Speaker 2: you know? And, just kind of go that route, you know? And, that might help. So there you go. 20:22 Speaker 1: All 20:23 Speaker 3: right, ready? This is a short 1. Question number 3. When you're cycling 20:28 Speaker 3: off GHK- 20:29 Speaker 3: MOTS-3one, 20:32 Speaker 3: what are peptides to replace the benefit of these PEPs when you're cycling off? If you cycle off GHK-one 20:39 Speaker 3: and add GLO or CLO, are you really cycling off? 20:43 Speaker 3: No. It's an odd question. It's an odd question. So, 20:47 Speaker 3: no, I mean, GLO and CLO have GHK-one 20:51 Speaker 3: there. So 20:52 Speaker 3: that does not count as cycling off of GHK-two. 20:55 Speaker 3: You are just adding b p c you're you're continuing GHK-two. 21:00 Speaker 3: You're adding in BPC, TB, and and KPV in the CLO scenario. 21:05 Speaker 3: NAD. So now you said, Hey, what could I replace essentially with MOTS-1C 21:09 Speaker 3: and SS-thirty 1? Okay. 21:12 Speaker 1: Those 21:13 Speaker 3: are mitochondrial 21:15 Speaker 3: peptides. They're focused on 21:17 Speaker 3: keeping your mitochondria well 21:19 Speaker 3: strong, healthy, and giving it energy. So 21:23 Speaker 3: NAD is the 1st 1 that comes to mind. I would have a 100% 21:27 Speaker 3: add in NAD others. 21:31 Speaker 2: Well, no, what do you got? I mean, it's great. You don't say much. It's super vague in regards to the question. What's your age? What's your weight? Are you hormonally optimized? What's your objective? 21:42 Speaker 2: You're taking these for, obviously I'm assuming for energy to maybe fix your mitochondria, 21:47 Speaker 2: but you do want to take a break. You know, I speak with experience. You want to take a break. Will already said NAD is going to be great. Hopefully you are on TRT. 21:56 Speaker 2: I would throw in a secretagogue. 21:58 Speaker 2: I do wish I knew your weight because that kind of is contingent upon that. HGH will always take the top seat. 22:04 Speaker 2: Then for, I think Will and I both, I think he likes it to Tesof Ipah. I like to just plain Tessa, but, any secretagogue would do well, 22:12 Speaker 2: and contingent upon the GHK-1R 22:32 Speaker 3: 5 amino 1 MQ is another 1 that can can help out mitochondrial functions. So that's another good 1 to me replacing. And it helps burn fat. Yeah. 22:42 Speaker 3: And everything he just said is also will work, not I mean, and then again, in 22:47 Speaker 3: depending on why you were taking the GHKCU, BPC and TB-five hundred. Because they do share a lot of the same properties. Yeah. So, 22:54 Speaker 3: if you're looking, you know, the healing portions. You can put all that on any type of You can add that on anything. 22:59 Speaker 3: And really the reason you want to cycle off is 23:04 Speaker 3: just because your body starts building a tolerance and it just stops working 23:07 Speaker 3: So as 23:08 Speaker 3: that is the main reason in all these peptides that you want to cycle off, Not that, like, continued use is gonna cause severe withdrawals or anything like that or it's bad for you. 23:18 Speaker 3: Now GHKCU, 23:19 Speaker 3: you get that 1. You don't wanna just constantly just flood yourself with copper. Yeah. 23:24 Speaker 3: That 1 you do want to cycle off for other reasons because it might end up being bad for you after 23:29 Speaker 2: a while. I would think though, even in like mitochondria, 23:32 Speaker 2: like we, we, if like the objective is to fix this stuff and then to not run them in perpetuity. I mean, TRT is probably will be around for perpetuity, maybe even HGH, but some, you know, the objective isn't like, let's take these forever. Right? 23:45 Speaker 2: And it'll be good for your pocketbook, but it's to fix the mitochondria, 23:49 Speaker 2: the SS-31first 23:50 Speaker 2: and MOTS-3.0 then take a break. NAD without a doubt will be a good replacement. 23:55 Speaker 1: Yep. Best you can replace. All right. 23:57 Speaker 2: All right. 23:59 Speaker 2: Okay. There seems to be no gray area with AOD-nine 24:03 Speaker 2: 604 in regards to if it works or not. People say it does, or people say it's great. How can there be such a gap on its efficiency? JD says it's 1 of his top 5, 24:14 Speaker 2: but others say it's trash. It's very true. I'm intrigued by AOD. Could you go deeper in the peptide 24:20 Speaker 2: and why such varying opinions? 24:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love AOD 24:24 Speaker 2: now. 24:26 Speaker 2: AOD is not Retatrutide. 24:28 Speaker 2: It's not going to affect your appetite. So 24:32 Speaker 2: we humans want an instant, 24:34 Speaker 2: I want it to work right now. Right? So that's not the type of peptide. So the reason I like it in particular is because I'm in pretty good shape. So 24:43 Speaker 2: my diet's 24:44 Speaker 2: usually prime. My workouts are prime. I'm hormonally optimized. 24:49 Speaker 2: So it works great for me. It's, you know, anti obesity drug, its main job is to burn fat. I'm a fat burner guy and 24:57 Speaker 2: I will always be that. And that's why. So do I think AOD would work against a Retatrutide? Not even close. If you're not hormonally optimized, 25:06 Speaker 2: if you need to lose 50 pounds, 25:09 Speaker 2: and you're not working out much, AOD is going to suck. So that's probably the type of person answering that. Not always, but that's probably why. So it's not going to replace some of the things 25:19 Speaker 2: that I think give you the instant gratification, 25:23 Speaker 2: but ran properly on top of a good diet, 25:26 Speaker 2: on top of HGH, 25:27 Speaker 2: on top of being hormonally optized. 25:29 Speaker 0: I think AOD is great. It literally is my top 5, and I'd just that's why. Yep. Very good answer. Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands you need. From athletic stuff, like a full court pickup game, 25:41 Speaker 0: swish, 25:42 Speaker 0: to athletic stuff, like 0.5 mile stroll. Get those steps in. And for morning hikes up the mountain trail, good pace, 25:51 Speaker 0: to nighttime ghost stories from the camping chair. What 25:54 Speaker 1: a twist. 25:55 Speaker 0: Whatever level of active, Sierra loves it all. Head to Sierra or sierra.com for the brands you want at the prices that let you do it all. From athletic to athletic, Sierra's got it. Propel fitness water. With Gator electrolytes, 26:08 Speaker 1: 0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade electrolytes. 26:20 Speaker 3: And that is true. There's a lot of reasons. A, like, well, 1st of all, like HGH frag, AOD is just as slightly as is 1 26:27 Speaker 3: 1, less amino acid than HGH frag, but it's it's just 26:32 Speaker 3: it's, manipulated to be a little bit more stable, but bodybuilders have been taking HGH forever 26:36 Speaker 3: and then having good results with it. K? And that but it is AOD is should be a, like an adjunct treatment peptide. Right? Like, it should not be your, like, this is my fat burner. Yeah. It's like the sauce on top. Exactly. It's kind of the sauce on top. And it works way better when everything else, like you said, is is going right. Yeah. Right? So a lot of people may say, oh, it doesn't work because they're because they're not doing anything else right, and therefore, is not gonna work. There it does make a huge difference if you take it in a fasted state. So anybody who's taking it with a full stomach, 27:13 Speaker 3: of food is just basically blunting its effects. Sure. It also is it can degrade really fast and 27:20 Speaker 3: is very finicky with water. We know it's like hydrophobic 27:23 Speaker 3: and you need to mix it with acetic acid, but it can degrade very fast. And so maybe people have checked your sources of where you get this from. Right? You're handling your own handling procedures and because so you don't ruin your own product. Right? That can contribute to people saying that it's crap. Yeah. 27:41 Speaker 3: And 27:43 Speaker 3: I guess 27:44 Speaker 3: yeah. Well, that was great. That's about it. It it works. Like 27:49 Speaker 3: HGH, 27:50 Speaker 3: right? People think of HGH when this baseball controversy like, oh, HGH, that guy is so ripped. Like, he's doing HGH. Right? They don't they don't and until they take it, like, it's it's it's under it is it's underwhelming from what people really think. Right. It's not gonna be It's an uneducated opinion that you don't know what you're talking about. You have no idea what you're You haven't even, like, studied this at all. And that's the whole real deal. HGH is kind of underwhelming on the fatberg, but it works, but it works over time and subtly. Totally. 28:18 Speaker 2: Well, like Will says, like, you only sometimes even notice it when you take it out. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, okay, I'm getting a little pudgy. I'll stop taking that shit. You know what mean? Yep. Yeah. Perfect as I said. Alright. Am I up? Yeah. 28:29 Speaker 3: Sure. 28:30 Speaker 1: Okay. 28:33 Speaker 3: Okay. I think I have are. There you are. It's a big 1. It's a long paragraph. 28:41 Speaker 3: Hey, guys. 1st of all, love your podcast and 28:43 Speaker 3: the school you've created. I love you so much, and peptides have become a way to finally work with my husband on my passion for healthy living. Right on. Several questions here. I'm a 38 year old female, with celiac disease, GI issues, and intestinal 28:57 Speaker 3: cystitis 28:59 Speaker 3: and 29:00 Speaker 3: cystitis 29:02 Speaker 3: My current stat consists of GLOW and DSIP at night, 29:06 Speaker 3: CLO 29:07 Speaker 3: and DSIP. 29:09 Speaker 3: Morning is 5 Amino-1MQ, 29:11 Speaker 3: MOTS-1C, and I add AOD on my workout days 3 to 4 days a week. Been on tirzepatide a few months. Recently discovered Retta. 29:20 Speaker 3: I have been microdosing 29:22 Speaker 3: both, but just the last couple of weeks. I also use NAD midday, 3 to 4 days a week, 30 units from a 500 mg vial, which should be just 30 mg. 29:35 Speaker 3: If you're adding 5 mils, then it's 30 mg. I'm doing basic dosing for all of the above, but still seem to be lacking energy wise. And my sleep debt score stays fairly high. I weight train 4 days a week and get in just enough get in just cardio 1 to 2 days a week. I track my macros to stick to a 140 of protein daily, 29:56 Speaker 3: at least a 120 ounces of water, and I'm careful about not eating much added sugar. I'm down from 100 50 2 3 months ago down to 1 39, 30:04 Speaker 3: and I feel a big drop in inflammation. I'm doing basic dosing for all the above, but still seems to be lacking energy wise. Wait a minute. 30:11 Speaker 3: I think that just repeated. My bad. So did I end that correctly? Yeah. Any suggestions? Here, here it goes. Any suggestions 30:20 Speaker 3: on my stack or dosages? 30:22 Speaker 3: Any suggestions on labs to watch for? And any suggestions to help out knock out my lower belly fat? That was a great question. Yes, it was. It really was very articulate. And when you go? No, please let me digest it after reading. 30:36 Speaker 2: So I have 30:38 Speaker 2: I'm going to be very straight with you. I think that you have not checked your hormones. You probably need to be hormonally optimized. I know that's 30:46 Speaker 2: coming around for ladies, but there's still a lot of ladies that don't know that they need to check their hormones. 30:51 Speaker 2: And 30:52 Speaker 2: you, 30:53 Speaker 2: you literally could just get on a little bit of testosterone and that could change all of this. The lack of energy, your age, 30:59 Speaker 2: everything you said, that little pooch at the bottom, that could be testosterone. It could be estrogen. It could be all kinds of things and hormones need to be checked. So without a doubt, I'm almost certain that's what it is. So like thyroid panel, iron, 31:12 Speaker 2: B12, vitamin D, cortisol, 31:14 Speaker 2: fasting insulin for sure, glucose, 31:17 Speaker 2: and hormones. 31:19 Speaker 2: Check your dang hormones, girl. I bet you, your hormones are off now. 31:24 Speaker 2: Will and I talk about this all the time for men because we are men, but it's coming up so much, 31:29 Speaker 2: that ladies, 31:31 Speaker 2: you got to get these hormones checked. 31:34 Speaker 2: You do not need to feel like shit if you're a man or a woman. 31:37 Speaker 2: You should be horny because that's a thing that God gave us. So if that should be a beacon, if you're not, 31:44 Speaker 2: that's hormones. 31:46 Speaker 2: And you shouldn't have such low of energy if you're healthy and you're eating right and whatnot. So the fact that you don't have the energy 31:52 Speaker 2: and I don't know what your sex drive is, but if you don't have a sex drive, I'm going tell you that's the hormones. 31:59 Speaker 2: And I bet you the testosterone might be your answer, but the hormones will tell you the answer because it's not your, the peptides you take are not going to be working well unless 32:08 Speaker 2: you get your hormones in place. 32:11 Speaker 2: And as we age, that is a constant 32:14 Speaker 2: audible that we need to continue 32:16 Speaker 2: to find that sweet spot. I'm currently in 1 right now, but I'm doing a lot of research to 32:22 Speaker 2: get myself back into my sweet spot. 32:25 Speaker 2: And it also could be 32:27 Speaker 2: sleep. 32:28 Speaker 2: We've talked about it numerous times that it's popping up everywhere 32:32 Speaker 2: because it's obviously for a reason. If you do not sleep, your cortisol is going be high and your cortisol will, 32:39 Speaker 2: it takes the top seat of everything. If you're not sleeping and your cortisol is high, you will not lose the weight. There's no chance in hell. And it doesn't matter how much testosterone you're on. So 32:49 Speaker 2: fix your sleep. I have a protocol that has been just life changing for me. So if you, whatever channels that you follow us on, if you just say, Hey, JD said to send this, I will literally, or my team will send you the 33:02 Speaker 2: protocol that has changed my life. I slept like 8.5 hours last night and I was sleeping 3 for like a year. And like, I'm just like waking up and just feeling like 1000000 bucks. The cortisol is gonna keep you at that. You're not losing that belly fat girl. Then obviously Tesamorelin, once you got it, you get that stuff 33:20 Speaker 2: in line, the Tesamorelin is gonna be your answer, but it's hormones in my opinion. What you got? You think that's the thing? Yes, but I think that 1 thing ought to be explored with celiac disease and GI issues is like 33:32 Speaker 3: malabsorption 33:33 Speaker 3: of the nutrients that you are actually eating. Good point. Right? That could be absolutely 33:38 Speaker 3: contributing 33:39 Speaker 3: to 33:40 Speaker 3: the lack of energy. Absolutely. So 33:43 Speaker 3: your body, just your gut, not being able to absorb properly all the nutrients that you're actually putting in, and then that resulting in lower energy. So I would think of that and there is some, some, you asked, there's some panels that can give us some clues to that, some blood panels. I wrote those down so to tell you slowly. 34:02 Speaker 3: Sleep, yeah, I mean, your sleep needs to get better, right? That's going to affect everything. And 100% your cortisol, 34:09 Speaker 3: your energy. 34:11 Speaker 3: So I would try to maybe add an Epitalon. 34:14 Speaker 3: Who knows? Again, with these peptides, it's crazy how like some, once you find that sweet spot, right? There's 1 little, 1 little like, maladjusted thing in each individual's body, right, and you sometimes use the peptide that actually affects that and then bam, everything works better. So I 34:30 Speaker 3: I would, 34:31 Speaker 3: 1, just guess Epitalon. 34:33 Speaker 3: Try that to help sync up your circadian rhythm. 34:37 Speaker 3: It might actually just make a huge difference in your sleep. K? 34:40 Speaker 3: And also Tesamorelin, 34:42 Speaker 3: not necessarily for the sleep, but just for everything. For the belly fat, right, it is there. It is it is 34:48 Speaker 3: made to burn fat on your belly and and the fat around your organs. 34:53 Speaker 3: So and it will keep muscle on you, which will 34:57 Speaker 3: increase fat burning, increase fat burning, 35:00 Speaker 3: increase 35:01 Speaker 3: and increase your muscle saving 35:04 Speaker 3: and therefore boost your metabolism. 35:06 Speaker 3: So the growth hormone secretagogue specifically Tesamorelin do. For the panel, here's what I would try and go get tested for. So a full 35:15 Speaker 3: thyroid 35:16 Speaker 3: panel, TSH, free T3, free T4, reverse T3, cortisol in AM and PM, 35:23 Speaker 3: comprehensive iron panel with 35:26 Speaker 3: ferritin, sex hormones, estradiol, progesterone, 35:29 Speaker 3: DHEAS, 35:31 Speaker 3: and an organic acids test to assess your mitochondrial function. 35:37 Speaker 3: Where'd you get that 1? You might need, 35:40 Speaker 3: to talk to our friend, Doctor. Scott to 35:44 Speaker 3: get that test, but, and we can kind of put you in touch with, with him there. 35:48 Speaker 2: He's like, woah dude. 35:50 Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah. So get in touch with Scott because the gut stuff, 35:54 Speaker 2: you probably have heard me talk about a lot. I've been dealing with it for years. There's another question coming up about, 35:59 Speaker 2: some good stuff and it's, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. But, again, we can feel great and we should feel great. I think that's how God created us, but that takes work. 36:10 Speaker 2: Takes sometimes a lot of like stuff doing a lot of stuff that we don't want to do and checking your gut, checking your hormones without a doubt should be 1st just because it's the easiest 1. And then go into what if you use Doctor. Scott, what my opinion is, he'll run a stool test, which is kind of gross, 36:26 Speaker 2: but, it's 36:28 Speaker 2: where you need to go to fix your gut stuff. 36:30 Speaker 3: Yep. And needless to say, I don't know, but KPV, 36:33 Speaker 1: BPC for I your 36:36 Speaker 2: mean, we had, Paul on here and like we, you know, we said for the autoimmune stuff, which is gut related mostly, is going to be like 3 weeks of the TA-one 36:45 Speaker 2: Thymosin, 36:48 Speaker 2: what is it? Thymosin. Thymosin. 36:50 Speaker 2: Which we're working on. And then we got, the LL-thirty 7, which you're gonna run super low dose at like 100 micrograms for 40 days. And then you're going to follow it up and sweep it all out with VIP for 10. So 37:02 Speaker 2: that's on do I think we have that on our site, right? So if not- We should go check to make sure. 37:08 Speaker 2: But 37:10 Speaker 2: that helps with gut stuff and autoimmune stuff, but you need to figure out what it is 37:15 Speaker 2: and then you can fix it. Yeah. 37:17 Speaker 2: Is it my up? Yep. 37:19 Speaker 2: I'm 53 and have no idea where I'm supposed to, or should have started. 37:25 Speaker 2: Been on tests for a year and 0.5 and read it off and on since September. 37:29 Speaker 2: Going to start SS-thirty 1 with MOTS-C and then NAD this week. Could use some growth hormone too. Just a lot out there. It's a bit overwhelming. 37:39 Speaker 2: I wish there were more defined paths to take. Any help would be amazing. 37:45 Speaker 3: Well, 37:46 Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to give you a defined path without telling us what you want to do or what the issues are. 37:53 Speaker 3: So 37:56 Speaker 3: if 37:57 Speaker 3: you are trying to have some more energy, 38:00 Speaker 3: I think that as starting with SS-thirty 1, then going to MOTS-1s): And then AD is a good choice. And for overall 38:07 Speaker 3: internal, 38:08 Speaker 3: like longevity health, those are a good call. And you seem to be listening and doing those things. 38:14 Speaker 3: That's great growth hormone support. I would take Tesamorelin plus Ipamorelin blend. You're 53, so you are a candidate for just pure HGH, 38:23 Speaker 3: but not always easy to find. 38:26 Speaker 3: Okay. But Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin blend for the growth hormone because yeah, for sure. You probably need it. At 53, it just is what it is and it will help with everything. 38:34 Speaker 3: Other 38:36 Speaker 3: than that, I don't know what your, 38:39 Speaker 3: yeah. Hard to say. You don't see your objectives. If 38:42 Speaker 3: those are the objectives, those, that is what, what are good ideas to take. 38:47 Speaker 2: HGH is what I got. Hey. At 53, I'm gonna tell you you need it. 38:51 Speaker 2: I would just go with HGH 38:53 Speaker 2: 2 IU, done deal. And, like you said, you didn't tell us your objectives, but you should be on HGH 53 in my opinion. If you go on to our school and into the, what's the 2nd tier called? 39:05 Speaker 3: Not VIP, but what's the 2nd 1? Anyway, 39:09 Speaker 3: we have a whole bunch of different protocols for different 39:12 Speaker 3: for different 39:13 Speaker 3: situations. So 39:15 Speaker 3: maybe if you look through there, the premium 39:18 Speaker 3: membership, 39:19 Speaker 3: it's $25 a month. That's it. Right? We spend this I mean, if I if I need to justify why we charge money, it's like, we need to feed the children, and it's a whole lot of, 39:31 Speaker 3: it's a whole lot of work and expertise put into that. Okay? Years and years and years and years and We years of have a really good friend of ours, Will, was saying before this, who is just 39:41 Speaker 2: like, kinda like a brother, like, just such a good dude, and he signed up for that without even telling us because we would have given it to him for free for sure. And he would he called Will and said, dude, this is awesome. He's like, oh, man. And for him to say that Yeah. Speaks 4 And he's in this business and I've been in this business for him to say that we were both, wow, that's rad. Yeah. 40:00 Speaker 3: It's worth, so like just 40:03 Speaker 3: go in, I would suggest you go in there and there's a whole bunch of just see if anything goes, oh, that's what I'm lacking. 40:08 Speaker 3: Oh, that's what I should take. And how much? Okay. Might just do the job for you. 40:13 Speaker 3: Yeah. There's some direction. 40:15 Speaker 3: All 40:16 Speaker 3: right. So what's happening from 40:19 Speaker 3: NE Northeast Texas. 40:22 Speaker 3: Thanks 1000000 for all you guys and gals are doing. Y'all 40:25 Speaker 3: selling it right, selling it right, setting it right now. I'm 43. It's starting to get my health back on track 2 months ago, 40:32 Speaker 3: 2 months ago through better nutrition, exercise, and peptides. Current stack is a 1 mg of Tessa, 40:39 Speaker 3: 300 micrograms, 40:40 Speaker 3: good for you, daily, 40:42 Speaker 3: 1.5 mgs of Reta 3 times a week, 40:45 Speaker 3: 1 mg 5 m, 1 MQ daily, the Wolverine to the hip daily for an old injury, Wolverine to the hip daily for okay. 30 mg of NAD 3 times a week. 40:57 Speaker 3: 500 40:58 Speaker 3: micrograms AOD daily. Gone for $2.25 to $1.95 and feeling great. I have my total and free T check 1 month ago and I was at 4 65 41:08 Speaker 3: and 41:09 Speaker 3: 7.2. 41:10 Speaker 3: Yikes. 41:11 Speaker 3: My plan is to, 41:13 Speaker 3: continue doing what I'm doing for 1 to 2 months to see if the lifestyle change naturally helps my numbers. 41:18 Speaker 3: I am now, looking to add more muscle by adding IGF-one 41:23 Speaker 3: and we'll start that tomorrow. Please help me with any advice. Good plan. Should I start the DHEA 41:29 Speaker 3: that I've heard about to help with the low free count? 41:33 Speaker 3: My, for my bride, is it cool to take GHKCU 41:36 Speaker 3: and use the blue goddess at the same time? Can 41:40 Speaker 3: AOD in AOD water be mixed with an injection of other peptides? 41:45 Speaker 3: Probably not. Thanks a lot. Love you guys. 41:49 Speaker 3: Those are good questions. Dude. I appreciate 41:51 Speaker 3: it, man. 41:53 Speaker 3: Guess actually, 41:55 Speaker 3: so, so everything you are taking 41:57 Speaker 3: is sounds really good. Like all of your dosages 42:01 Speaker 3: and frankly good for you. If you want to, like you have made progress, no doubt, Now from 02/25 to 195 and you're feeling great. So like if you're in this progress chain and momentum is train and momentum is rolling, don't get off. Hell yeah. Keep writing it. The test, despite 42:18 Speaker 3: your low testosterone score, 42:20 Speaker 3: you're still making that much progress. And that's really, that's, that's impressive. Amazing. 42:25 Speaker 3: And if you want to wait 42:28 Speaker 3: as long as you can before taking testosterone, then I respect that. Okay. 42:32 Speaker 3: Cool. If you wanna wait and see if your lifestyle changes really helped that, I'd be interested to know how much they helped that also. I don't know if they actually will. I think ultimately you probably want to go into testosterone and that will open up your life to 42:44 Speaker 3: to so much more. Right? Holy shit. Why didn't I do this sooner? But good, 42:49 Speaker 3: but just good for you, dude. I would keep on going as far as and should I start the DHEA? Yes. 42:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. You can even start in clomiphene. 42:58 Speaker 3: That if you wanna do a little starter before actual testosterone, 43:01 Speaker 3: and clomiphene 43:02 Speaker 3: is where I would point you. 43:06 Speaker 3: It seems to just be proven to actually work, for actually increasing testosterone 43:11 Speaker 3: naturally. And, yes, it's cool if your wife takes the GHKCu 43:14 Speaker 3: injected and 43:15 Speaker 3: topical at the same time. Yes. There's no problem. There's no problem at all. 43:20 Speaker 3: The topical is not really 43:22 Speaker 3: getting into your bloodstream 43:24 Speaker 3: and system 43:25 Speaker 3: the way that the injectable is. So we're not worried about that. We recommend it. Absolutely. 43:29 Speaker 3: I recommend it. Still. I do it. 43:32 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was curious how you were going to answer that. 43:35 Speaker 2: So it was funny. Like we said, we don't talk about these until we sit down, which is always, it's been a lot better, but I don't know, man. I'm going to say, just get on testosterone. Sorry, this is my thing. Mean, your levels are there. You feel good, but you could feel freaking amazing. 43:48 Speaker 2: And in 3 weeks you could be like, Oh my gosh, I forgot how good that you can feel. That's Tesofensine. And that's just my opinion now. For whatever reason you want to hold off each his own man, I respect it. I just think that it's easy fix. That's why I want to know your age. 44:04 Speaker 2: If you were 34, that would answer would probably be a little bit different. It's like, keep where you're at, man. And see what you could do. But at your age, I would say definitely go on TRT. 44:13 Speaker 2: You don't say much about, 44:15 Speaker 2: sleep. 44:16 Speaker 2: Is your cortisol high? 44:18 Speaker 2: What is your current lifestyle, calorie intake? Those things are going be huge. I don't think that you should do 44:23 Speaker 2: the IGF-one 44:25 Speaker 2: until you get those hormones optimized in my opinion. I don't know if you were going to agree with that, but you can. But again, I think if you get your hormones optimized, 44:34 Speaker 2: you're feeling great now, but what also is going to happen is these peptides are going to work way better because you're hormonally optimized. So if you feel good now, you're going to feel great. The money you're spending on that peptides are going to be worth more because they're going to work better. So that's my stance. Definitely 44:51 Speaker 3: do not mix the AOD mixed in AOD water with anything else 44:55 Speaker 3: because that acetic acid water like really will mess up most other peptides. 45:01 Speaker 3: You don't want it touching anything else. Dude, 45:05 Speaker 2: you are up. My 45:08 Speaker 2: brother is on Reta and not 45:10 Speaker 2: losing weight. 45:11 Speaker 2: Mind you, he is a busy father, husband, and worker, so he doesn't schedule time for the gym and eats on the go. He's just 45:19 Speaker 2: finished a cycle of MOTS-3.1, 45:24 Speaker 2: 10 units, 45:26 Speaker 2: 5 on, 2 off, Reta, 3 megs, 1 45:30 Speaker 2: time per week. AOD, 45:32 Speaker 2: 15 units, 3 times per week. Before this protocol, he was on tirzepatide, 45:37 Speaker 2: 15 mgs per week. There you go. That's why he's losing weight. 45:41 Speaker 2: Recommended by his doctor, 15 days ago, the doctor had 45:45 Speaker 2: lost weight. 45:46 Speaker 2: No shit, 45:47 Speaker 2: but he's not losing weight now. He's not going to commit to the gym, 45:51 Speaker 2: but he wants to lose weight. 45:53 Speaker 2: Should we switch him back to his rizepatide 45:56 Speaker 2: or up his Reta? 45:59 Speaker 3: I see a whole bunch of problems. Yeah. I, 46:03 Speaker 2: I would just, I just want to like it be done right now because he's not gonna be able to work out. Come on bro. Like here, I'm going to be blunt with you because it's just, I think that it's deserved 46:12 Speaker 2: right here. We're all busy fathers. I can guarantee it doesn't work as much as me and this dude, but we still make time for the gym and we still make time to better our lives. And here's my stance on it. Our our children are products of the product. 46:25 Speaker 2: So if you are not eating right and if you're not 46:29 Speaker 0: doing these things Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands you need. From athletic stuff, like a full court pickup game, 46:37 Speaker 0: swish, 46:38 Speaker 0: to athletic stuff, like 0.5 mile stroll. Get those steps in. 46:43 Speaker 0: And for morning hikes up the mountain trail, good pace to nighttime ghost stories from the camping chair. What 46:49 Speaker 0: a twist. 46:50 Speaker 0: Whatever level of active, Sierra loves it all. Head to Sierra or sierra.com for the brands you want at the prices that let you do it all. From athletic to athletic, Sierra's got it. Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes, 47:03 Speaker 1: 0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes. 47:15 Speaker 2: Either your kids are gonna become that. So if you're not gonna lift weights and you're not gonna better your life because you're busy, your kids are gonna be like that in my opinion. They're worth as products of the products, man, and that's, I scream it from the rooftops that, you 47:29 Speaker 2: know, it's time for men to get back to the basics. 47:32 Speaker 2: I'll give you a perfect example because I'm not perfect. So my wife today asked me if I would take my son to school. And I said, I have to go prepare for a podcast and there's just no way, babe. 47:41 Speaker 2: And Alcoholics Anonymous has taught me a lot. 1 of the best lessons is I'm not responsible for my 1st thought, but I am responsible for my 2nd thought. Now I go outside and do some breathing techniques and some grounding. And as I did that, I ended in a prayer and I caught up to myself, which my 2nd thought was, 47:57 Speaker 2: Take your kid to school. So I told her I'd take him to school. Not only that, I didn't rush. I took him to get a donut and I sat with him and I talked with him about life. I talked with him about his birthday weekend coming up because we're taking him to Legoland this weekend 48:11 Speaker 2: and 48:12 Speaker 2: God smacked me in the face for almost missing that. You know? Like 48:16 Speaker 2: I say that because we're all freaking busy dude. Like, 48:20 Speaker 2: get your butt in the gym and you're going to lose some weight. 48:24 Speaker 2: We don't, you don't get anything 48:26 Speaker 2: worth it is not free. You don't just get to take an injection 48:29 Speaker 2: and that's life. You need to, we're not going to take injections for the rest of your life. The objective is to fix your 48:37 Speaker 2: life, 48:38 Speaker 2: build the base of the you, 48:41 Speaker 2: build the base, diet, exercise, hormone, 48:44 Speaker 2: hormone optimization, 48:46 Speaker 2: and then these things are on top are going to work. If you're just trying to build the 3rd floor without the base, you're going to have the same problem. It doesn't matter, dude. So I'm going to challenge you to 48:57 Speaker 2: me being a father myself to 49:00 Speaker 2: become a better man, become a better father and slow the hell down 49:04 Speaker 2: and get your ass in the gym and this stuff will work better. Sorry, I'm so blunt, but it's just my style, which got well. Yeah. I 2nd everything that he just said, like 49:15 Speaker 3: eating, 49:16 Speaker 3: eating on the go and the cal not 49:20 Speaker 3: a calorie deficit, like none of these peptides are going to overcome 49:23 Speaker 3: are going to overcome that and not exercising. 49:26 Speaker 3: Now 49:27 Speaker 3: also like 1 giant thing, so 15 mg of Retatrutide, I mean, just so that's like That's the most you can do. Maxed out dose. 49:35 Speaker 3: Okay? 49:38 Speaker 3: No wonder you lost I hope you've already lost a whole ton of weight on that. Right? 49:44 Speaker 3: Then now we're going to 3 mg of Retta, which is right above the starting dose. Yeah. Right? Like, what makes us think that that would actually do anything 49:53 Speaker 3: Yeah. Compared to this? So, of course, it stopped. Also, 49:57 Speaker 3: this a lot of the weight you'd lost. Right? You've also, like, again, we talked about this, killed our natural drive to want to eat because tirzepatide 50:04 Speaker 3: really 50:05 Speaker 3: brings down your appetite. 50:08 Speaker 3: Okay? So your body is trying to fight back against that so hard the whole time. And now that you've stopped it, it gets unleashed. 50:17 Speaker 3: And now we're barely taking any Retta. So no doubt probably experienced a whole lot of appetite come back and even stronger than it ever was before at the beginning. 50:26 Speaker 3: But the red, I'm sorry. Like you're going to have to increase the red on a whole lot 50:31 Speaker 3: if you want. But, but also I 50:34 Speaker 3: want to default back to JD's answer is it's not really just all about just pumping the drugs and up and upping doses and upping doses. Right? Like light, so a whole lot of lifestyle needs to change, 50:46 Speaker 3: but 50:47 Speaker 3: don't switch back to Tirzepatide. 50:49 Speaker 3: Try and tough it out. Like, cool, man. In in good. Okay. In the interim, let's increase the increase the Retta 50:55 Speaker 3: slowly. 50:56 Speaker 3: Don't just go to 10 Migs, please. Like, increase it slowly 51:01 Speaker 3: and then work on getting it done, decreasing it and fixing lifestyle. Right? 51:07 Speaker 3: Yeah. And then everything else 51:09 Speaker 1: he said again, you want to lose weight? 51:12 Speaker 2: You gotta prove it. You wanna get literally, like, seriously, like, dude, I will have to, if I had to, I'd wake up at 2 to go to the damn gym. I just would get it in. Now I'm programmed myself to be that. Wasn't overnight, but you gotta start, 51:27 Speaker 2: you got to start retraining your brain, dude. Like you're a bad ass, you're a warrior. It's inside of your soul, 51:33 Speaker 2: That's where warrior makers came from. Tap into that shit, 51:36 Speaker 2: tap into it and 51:38 Speaker 2: start setting the example for your kids. They're not overweight. 51:42 Speaker 2: Say that with love, hope yourselves. 51:44 Speaker 3: Who's up? 3 Me, I think. 51:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, 51:48 Speaker 3: I think so. Okay. What's up guys. I've been following you since January. I love the insight and content about peptides and wellness. I'm a firefighter in Texas or in treatment, Texas, man, and was involved in a bad accident in 2025. I have burns to my hands, which required partial amputations to fingertips 52:04 Speaker 3: and 2nd degree burns around my body. Damn. So a body got me in, a buddy got me into peptides, which have been amazing and helped me immensely with recovery. 52:13 Speaker 3: Luckily I am back at work and able to be 90% of what I was and so I'm about it, man. Thank God they let you back in to do that. So good for you. Then I recommended to wellness. I recommitted 52:26 Speaker 3: to wellness and dialing in my diet. I was 2 80 pounds when I started and now 2 20. I currently take TRT, BPC, KPV, 52:35 Speaker 3: TB, and of course the amazing Reta 3 Migs and cycling in and out other fat burners. 52:40 Speaker 3: Any other suggestions and other protocols for recovery 1 and just keeping up the good fight 52:45 Speaker 2: on growing old, but staying optimized? Thanks again. Keep out the rad work. You guys are awesome. Love it. That's rad dude. Yeah. I mean, I'll speak for probably Will and I, if you, however you follow us on our channels, like we would love if you could shoot me a DM and tell me that you're this guy will help you out a little bit because 1st 53:03 Speaker 2: off you lost weight just you've been through that. We are huge, huge supporters of police. 53:07 Speaker 2: Army are just veterans, 53:10 Speaker 2: firemen. 53:11 Speaker 2: So shoot me a DM please, if you don't mind. And, we'd like to help you out with some stuff. 53:15 Speaker 2: In regards to what you should take, I think you're running it right. Are you T are you on TRT? What is your age, my brother? I do not know. So that plays a big role in how you answer this. 53:26 Speaker 2: Obviously keep that resistance training up depending on age, 53:30 Speaker 2: HGH or secretagogue 53:32 Speaker 2: for sure. 53:33 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 53:34 Speaker 2: That's going to help with you and your injuries a lot. Would say jump and go to HGH dude because of that. 53:41 Speaker 2: The granddaddy baby, TRT, are you hormonally optimized? He does say that. He is. Yeah. I currently TRT. Okay, cool. I missed that. I'm sorry. So cool. So you are, so, NAD SS-31I 53:53 Speaker 2: would throw in there and HGH 53:56 Speaker 2: for sure. And, again, hit us up wherever you find our channels, let us know it's you, wounded fireman, and we'd like to give you something. 54:03 Speaker 2: Agreed. 54:04 Speaker 3: SS-31MOTS-1C, 54:06 Speaker 3: and NAD, 54:07 Speaker 3: all of those, I would add them in. SS-31first 54:10 Speaker 3: to shore up the mitochondria and then MOTS-1C after and longer. 54:15 Speaker 3: And then at a 100% did for recovery, 54:17 Speaker 3: everything, 54:19 Speaker 3: HGH or an HGH secretagogue, Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin. Will help burn fat. It'll help keep muscle on you. It'll help add more muscle and help everything 54:27 Speaker 3: just grow better. 54:29 Speaker 3: And yeah, dude, 54:31 Speaker 3: we absolutely 54:32 Speaker 3: are big supporters in 54:35 Speaker 3: public servants. And 54:37 Speaker 3: yes, you made the almost the ultimate sacrifice, right? 54:41 Speaker 3: Actually getting injured in line of duty and pretty severely. 54:44 Speaker 2: 90 percent. 54:46 Speaker 2: You lost a ton of weight, dude. Good on you. Standing. Thank you. And 54:50 Speaker 3: good, good for you, dude. 54:52 Speaker 2: I'll take us home. All 54:54 Speaker 3: right. 54:55 Speaker 2: Have you heard of any, have you heard of anyone with Barrett's syndrome taking BPC-157 55:01 Speaker 2: or CLO for possible healing? My doc has me on 55:06 Speaker 2: omeprazole 55:07 Speaker 2: for my condition. I don't really want to take that the rest of my life. I'm doing GLO lately and CLO on the way. Doing every other day with BPC on the other days. Thanks for your input. I listened to every episode. All right. 55:20 Speaker 2: So I'll take you live Gurdy. 55:22 Speaker 2: You probably hear me like 55:24 Speaker 2: constantly. 55:25 Speaker 2: It sucks. I've dealt with it for a lot for a long time. I've gone to a couple of different GI doctors and it's horrible. What has worked for me, 55:34 Speaker 2: at times it's not completely healed. It's in my opinion, coming from my gut. 55:40 Speaker 2: So I'm working on that. 55:42 Speaker 2: A Doctor. Scott, which I didn't put this together, but thinks it's the gut is actually now kind of causing this constant. 55:49 Speaker 2: Another doctor actually came in and actually agreed with us, so that made me feel better. But what has worked with me is carbs 55:56 Speaker 2: suck. 55:57 Speaker 2: Every night, if I eat carbs, I will be literally burping up food. I know it's disgusting, but that is what GERD is. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. I eat ice cream. I kind of burp up ice cream and have to spit it, spit it out. It sucks to hear. I know it's gross. My wife calls it a spit cup, but it sucks. So I feel for you is my point. It literally sucks. 56:16 Speaker 2: Thymosin Alpha, 56:18 Speaker 2: for 3 weeks, the LL-thirty 7, I think, 56:21 Speaker 2: with a 100, 56:22 Speaker 2: 100 micrograms 56:24 Speaker 2: for 50 days, and then the VIP for 10 days. If we do not have that protocol up on the website, we'll put it up. 56:31 Speaker 2: That can help, but 56:33 Speaker 2: we don't want to overload Doctor. Scott, but Call Doctor. Scott. 56:37 Speaker 2: Because 56:38 Speaker 2: he's the person that we trust. He'll run a, he'll run a, blood panel and he'll probably for you need to run a stool test. 56:46 Speaker 2: And, he's going to have to reboot your gut, which, you know, so little tricks of my trade. I'm trying to see if my wife sent me the prescription that my doctor put me on. Helped a little bit, but she didn't. 56:59 Speaker 2: But no, we don't want to take medication forever, especially pharmaceuticals 57:02 Speaker 2: man, but, it's also hell. So I feel, feel you on that. So cut down or at least lower your carbs really has helped for me if I eat like chips and stuff. Gosh, I'm paying for it all night. It's horrible. Some of the reason I've done carnivore. 57:17 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's kind of what I got. I think that you're killing it in regards to some of the stuff you're taking, but I don't think this is going to heal you. You got to heal the gut and really reboot it. 57:27 Speaker 2: And I don't think you're going to get that from a GI doctor 57:29 Speaker 2: unless he's 57:32 Speaker 2: not super Western medicine, GI doctor. He's going to give you those pills forever and maybe eventually a surgery. 57:40 Speaker 3: So I hope that helps. Yeah. I think GHK-3s): He's better expert on this 1, but like BPC, 57:45 Speaker 3: KPV, 57:46 Speaker 3: Oral BPC. 57:48 Speaker 2: Regular 57:48 Speaker 3: and, 57:50 Speaker 3: and give all the KPV you can take 57:54 Speaker 3: is what will, I don't know, do its best to help this. Although this Barrett's, 57:58 Speaker 3: the Barrett's disease disorder syndrome 58:02 Speaker 3: is a bit more complex than just, 58:05 Speaker 3: like, 58:06 Speaker 3: to the stomach lining and acid reflux. Yeah. So, but 58:11 Speaker 3: a BPC 58:12 Speaker 3: KPV 58:13 Speaker 3: immediately is worth a actual 58:16 Speaker 3: chance. So just, I would absolutely try it, see what it could help a lot, but maybe not completely fix the issue, but we don't really know. And then I would actually, yeah, 58:27 Speaker 2: I worked to go find a doctor and do everything else. JD just Yeah, it sucks, man. I feel free to it. It sucks. It's horrible. But for whatever reason, here we are. 58:36 Speaker 2: Take the time to try to heal that gut as I am, and I'll keep you posted because you know, I post everything about every channel I have, how I'm feeling on everything. So I'm very blunt. If it sucks, it sucks. If I'm being fixed, 58:48 Speaker 2: I can't call Doctor. Scott 58:50 Speaker 2: start from there. Trust him. We're working on a couple other doctors actually that, 58:55 Speaker 2: are kind of similar in regards to their approach to things. So we'll be kind of putting them on there too. So it's like Barrett's Barrett's syndrome, right? The root cause is 59:06 Speaker 1: it 59:07 Speaker 3: lowers esophageal 59:09 Speaker 3: sphincter dysfunction. So I guess we have a sphincter in our necks. Everybody 59:13 Speaker 3: just know that. Fixed lower esophageal sphincter dysfunction, 59:18 Speaker 3: and and 59:20 Speaker 3: your gastric motility issues, which we know that 59:23 Speaker 3: BPC has evidence actually for both of those to affect both of them, but the gastric motility, for sure, basically move things moving through your GI tract. Right? 59:33 Speaker 3: But the lower esophageal 59:35 Speaker 3: sphincter dysfunction is tough 59:38 Speaker 3: because that's kind of what opens and closes down here. Yeah. 59:42 Speaker 3: Mean, I don't really have an answer there for you. 59:45 Speaker 1: What I said before is I would try it. Yeah. 59:49 Speaker 2: So yeah, we that's what we got guys and questions 59:52 Speaker 2: are great. Wow. These are probably the best set of questions I think so far, not to knock the other questions. They just really, again, give us your age, weight, 1:00:00 Speaker 2: man or woman. That's going to be like just necessities and objectives. If we don't have your objectives, like what should I take? I don't know. 1:00:08 Speaker 2: We don't know anything about you, but that will help us answer these, but a great questions guys. We're gonna have, 1:00:14 Speaker 2: if any financial 1:00:15 Speaker 2: people out in the stands, we're gonna have Joe Brown, who is a good friend of mine. He's actually been somewhat of a good friend, but a mentor. He really helped me when I 1st started my 1:00:26 Speaker 2: Instagram channel, he was a big part of that. So I'm going to have him on my personal podcast and then Will and I are going to sit with him on peptide podcast because he is a very big peptide kit and, he used to be overweight 1:00:37 Speaker 2: and, I met him when he was, and, now he is ripped. 1:00:41 Speaker 2: And so we're gonna dig into some of his, protocols. Brilliant. Guys, insanely off the charts, intelligent. 1:00:47 Speaker 2: So he'll be on the podcast this week. That 1 will drop on Monday, but, 1:00:52 Speaker 2: any Joe Brandt fans, you will love this 1. It'll be, it'll be cool. He's a good guy. Yeah. 1:00:56 Speaker 2: Cool. Cool. Join school. Look at those. If you want the, in-depth protocols, 1:01:02 Speaker 2: there'll be on, I think the 1st 1 premium, and then we have some other stuff, 1:01:06 Speaker 2: like even like steroid stacks and stuff like that. We're not saying you should, we're just saying that we people are going to do it because we had questions. We have put some of that stuff together on the VIP. 1:01:16 Speaker 2: Because that's where some of those questions are. So you need to add the VIP. It's not about money. It's about the time that it takes to do all this stuff. We're extremely busy, especially this guy that's all this stuff makes it look good. 1:01:27 Speaker 2: But that's what it is. Other than that, we're not doing the meetup on the 27th, 1:01:32 Speaker 2: but we do have 1 brewing. We do not want to do anything 0.5 last year and we were, you know, we've just, we've been busy. We're So going to spend the time to put a really good 1 so people can come and meet the team and we want to meet you more importantly. 1:01:46 Speaker 2: So we will be working on that, but we do have something brewing around the 27th, which we will drop around the 27th. 1:01:52 Speaker 1: So other than that, we'll catch you next round. We appreciate you. Good night.