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1:01Speaker 2William C. Hoss. Oh, you said it differently. Somebody I wanted to change it a little bit. Quote
1:17Speaker 3I'm back. We're going to Vegas this weekend. It's Memorial Day, and it's gonna be like like all of the cool techno DJs are there. Oh, wow.
1:27Speaker 2fucking boob. Yeah. Thank God. I know. Thank God I married a woman too that's like, we're like, that sounds like hell. Yes. Yeah, no doubt. At least my girl just wants to go see country music concerts. That's cool. But
1:43Speaker 2Yeah. I'm not as much as I used to. No. I always like I'll always like gravitate toward my old punk rock scene. Yeah. It's like it's been so long and I'll be like, wow, man. I just I used to love this stuff every Friday, Saturday, punk rock shows, baby. I've never been big in the music, like going to music shows. I don't know.
2:07Speaker 3she's like seen Morgan Wallen like 8 times. Oh, wow. He's rad. And and just just for example, because she just he just went she just went to go see him in Vegas a couple weekends ago. Cool. But, you know, she's seen Taylor Swift several like, she just keeps going to these things. And I don't care. She's like, hey, can I go? I'm like, are asking? Yes.
2:34Speaker 2Exactly. All good. Great. Especially, like, in our age, dude, it's like, when you're young, like, you probably were up to no good, but now it's like, hey. I'm just gonna take a couple naps. Yeah. You know I mean? It's like Absolutely. So boring. It's like I love boring, though. Yeah. I,
2:50Speaker 2We are going to spend some time for those who know, you know, probably know Will and I own a business or businesses together.
2:56Speaker 2We're gonna just kind of plot the attack. We're very blessed to have some people in our lives, I think, on both sides that, you know, are pretty good in different business avenues. You know, I've been talking with Mark Moss about some ideas we discussed and vice versa. Just sit down and
3:18Speaker 3because there is so much possibility. Those of you I had somebody at Home Depot the other day
3:25Speaker 3what do I I know you're busy, but like, I don't know. I don't I'm not gonna get anywhere here at Home Depot. Like, I want to do something more. Like, where do you suggest on that I how do I start?
3:40Speaker 3She's 1 of the ladies. She works there at Home Depot. Right? I'm looking for some I don't know. I am always, like, trying to find some, like, engineering
3:49Speaker 3feet in our warehouse to, like, do something different. So I'm trying to rig up these, like, long curtains. Anyway, so and, you know, that's a tough. It's a good it's a good question. Like, well, 1st things 1st is, like, you keep asking these questions. Right? Like, keep being curious and keep your brain thinking. But I do think that there is
4:10Speaker 3to do it. Like, I don't care who it is. You can't just, you need to basically become an expert
4:16Speaker 3in whatever the hell the business happens to be. And usually people do this by accident, right? They don't. So it's tough, right? I did not plan to be, to like make a living off of you know, peptides.
4:29Speaker 3But if I look back, right, for the last 10 years, this all I've been doing, right, is supplements,
4:36Speaker 3fitness, like peptide. Right. And the only way that I could have potentially ever even,
4:54Speaker 3what peptides do, not just like the economics of everything and- Anything nutritive. And connections. Yes,
5:00Speaker 3exactly. And so there's, you can't really manufacture that, right? Just gotta- Time. You just have to spend the time Yeah. And that's tough, right, because it took that many years and, like, you don't wanna make the wrong decision. Yeah. But I think that rarely does a person go, alright.
5:15Speaker 3I'm gonna sit down. This is where I'm gonna be in This is where I'm gonna wanna be an expert, so I'm gonna start my journey here like, sorry, it doesn't I think you just gotta live your life, be curious, have your brain open to everything,
5:26Speaker 3So then when an opportunity comes, because like, you're not if you sit around waiting for that billion dollar idea Yeah.
5:35Speaker 3And even if it does come and you've just been sitting out rotating it, you can't maximize it. Yeah. Because you got no practice doing anything. Right? So even if you get that billion dollar idea, bet you screwed up,
6:00Speaker 2with billion dollar ideas and not necessarily 1000000000, but I'll just use that as how we say it. But when you wake up at 2 in the morning and you're like, wow,
6:13Speaker 2lets that, that they'll go sleep back to sleep and they'll think they'll remember the next day it's gone forever. I believe that's God talking to your soul, talking to your subconscious,
6:30Speaker 2Secondly, I did my podcast, the iron perspective on this actually last podcast, which was if
6:36Speaker 2any type of 1, you got to find your purpose to you got to, if you want a direction, you start by getting in shape.
6:47Speaker 2you become a different person on the journey to abs because it's hard as hell. Right? Everybody would have them otherwise because everybody wants them. Right? So on that journey of the discipline, you become a better person. And if you start to how did you learn to do you studied it. You Yeah. You watched videos, but before we did, this was even on our radar.
7:06Speaker 2After the after the meetings, we're like, hey, did you like, we've talked about a compound. Yeah. And we had ironically
7:11Speaker 2both had been watching some of the same guys. Right? That's just studying because they're super intrigued by it. But I believe success leaves clues and
7:21Speaker 2You just have to really follow that. Like the successful people, what do they do? How did they become successful? I believe that there is a roadmap. Here's the problem. Most just won't follow it. Those will not read and study because like we get questions all the time. Like it's kind of silly questions, but it's like, how do you think we learned this? We freaking started
7:53Speaker 2to start a business, you basically to a degree have to have, for lack of a better way to say it, ball of steel. Yes. Because it's a big ass risk. And
8:01Speaker 2so many people are scared of the failure of that risk that they don't try. Yep, absolutely. And that's why
8:08Speaker 2Jeremy Jackson had articulated this in a very, very unique way and I loved it. I've never stopped thinking about it. I talk about the black sheep. You and I are both black sheep because
8:17Speaker 2we're in recovery and I believe some people come out the womb just different and we were headed in that direction
8:23Speaker 2and you don't know how to contain it. When you do and you learn how to focus, which we both have and put it to the right places,
8:43Speaker 2God gives about 10% of the race, human race, this warrior gene. And the reason he does that is because
8:51Speaker 2those are the people that they will not let this race die. Meaning when the bear comes running at you, 90% are running this way and 10% are going, all right, bro. Like it's you or me bro, but I'm living today. You know what I mean? And those are the people that like kind of into drugs and alcohol. Yep. But they have that risk tolerance like us that were like, dude,
9:12Speaker 2if it don't work, it don't work. I guess I'll figure it out. Yeah. Like, let's jump. Yeah. You know what I mean? I and most people don't have that. Yep. Agreed. I mean, if you look at, like, let's say firefighters, for example,
9:23Speaker 3rates amongst firefighters is, like, huge. And I actually would argue that it's probably not because the fire the trauma that they see on the job creates that. I think that Right. Those are the people who decide to become firefighters. Yeah. Those are the people who think it's a good idea to run into a fire. Okay. And they have something already wrong with them. Sure. But that is
9:46Speaker 3survival of the species. And then, I mean, another here's another 1. So back in ancient times, right, so alcoholism,
9:58Speaker 3everything finally, the hosts die off, okay, in the history of the world. Right? All diseases that are like fatal
10:09Speaker 3the hosts finally die off and the disease dies off forever. Okay? But not so with alcoholism, right? Because
10:15Speaker 3back in the day, like to William Wallace, right, he was the alcoholic. Right? And the tribe Right. Did everything they could to artificially keep him alive because
10:25Speaker 3he was their only salvation, like, in people like him, right, that would just run towards
10:29Speaker 3battle and protect them all. And so even though he would do some dumb, crazy stuff, the tribe would still be like, No, it's okay. Come on back. We won't kick you out quite yet. And
10:55Speaker 3so like for drugs and alcohol, people are like, Oh, I'm not going do that again because my detox was so bad. Yeah. Good luck. You'll that shit
11:04Speaker 3you will remember how great just doing a little bit of the felt. Right? And like, because, like, back in ancient times when we had when the when the when the men went out to go hunting, right, we were to go kill a bunch of buffalo, let's say, it was hard and your buddies died and it was miserable, right? People got gouged and
11:22Speaker 3friends died and then you were starving to death and that sucked, right? But when you come home and you fed
11:33Speaker 3feeling, right, outweighed everything. Sure. And a logical person a logical person would go,
11:40Speaker 3was that worth it? Wait a minute. All of this death and misery just for this. Right? Like, I don't think that's worth it. Why don't we just be berry eaters?
11:57Speaker 3enjoy that can pleasure spike. And guess what? This is why we're never content. You know what I'm saying? We're never content. We did and this is why our species survives
12:07Speaker 3we always just want more. We want that pleasure despite it being the harder thing to do.
12:18Speaker 2you know, with our channels and, like, Will doesn't get to see this many of the comments. I sent cool ones to him though, but, like, I got a comment from the guy and, certain ones moved me and he was,
12:32Speaker 2to a degree saved my life to the degree I need them at that time to talk about my sobriety posts and stuff like that. He was a firefighter. Mhmm. And he said I fell into alcoholism and,
12:52Speaker 2that they write in. Like people like the show, people enjoy us. We never thought we'd be talking to people enjoying us. That's
13:05Speaker 2your story, tell your story, tell your story. If I didn't tell my stories about sobriety,
13:09Speaker 2It wouldn't have affected that guy who now wants to pick up the torch and affect other people. So, you know, honestly,
13:15Speaker 2to the listeners, I mean, we probably don't say it enough, a little bit, but like, we're grateful as hell for you guys. We, everyone starts off as you're grateful, you love the show, you listen to them over and over, and like,
13:27Speaker 2it's just we did this by 2 dudes that got sober and changed their lives and loved talking about this stuff. And, I believe when you try to give back to the world, God puts his hand off. And that's kind of where we're sitting here, and, he definitely has his hand on this podcast because, dude,
13:43Speaker 2we definitely ain't the smartest guys out there, and, but you enjoy it, so we're glad to hear it. Right. Yes. You know I mean? So, right. It's mind blowing that Good stuff. Let's start us off, my man. All right. So here we go. Question 1: How could someone like myself get started
13:57Speaker 3involved in peptide therapy for others? Right? I have my RN license, which I'm sure means nothing but in the setting of a clinic,
14:20Speaker 3I'd like to learn more. Is this online? I hear you speak of a conference. Enjoy your show so much. It was recommended
14:27Speaker 3to me by my hormone doc. Sweet. And I'm so glad that she shared it with me. I've learned so much and now just completely binge and all the things peptides and impatiently wait for your next show. If this topic isn't a good 1 to be aired, I completely understand. Mr. Will T Haas,
14:46Speaker 3voice, since you're an avid reader- That's a good question. Yeah. Oh, that is. Yep. So it was, I completely understand. Good
14:52Speaker 2question. Very interesting. I'm surprised that you didn't get that, but you want me to just take you whenever- I can
15:00Speaker 3your RN license, correct, like, that does not give you any powers to prescribe anything right now. So so it doesn't help there, but it sure, like you said, gives you some clout. Right? You you
15:24Speaker 3really guide them through, like, therapy, peptide therapies, right, then like the research only space is not the space because the whole point there, the research only space is you may not absolutely
15:36Speaker 3sell peptides and at the same time tell people how to use them because they are fundamentally
15:55Speaker 3some money off of it, The research space isn't the spot to do it. I would probably find it, 1st of all, establish yourself as an expert and, like, really, really know your stuff. Maybe find a doctor who's already,
16:18Speaker 3opportunities in the research space to and even like the easiest entry, the easiest way to enter, there are bigger companies that are essentially distributors,
16:28Speaker 3and they are the ones who source and house all of the products. And just like most products out there in this world, you can create a website
16:41Speaker 3link up with that distributor and they will send their products to your customers and white label their products.
16:47Speaker 3I white label your products so they look like yours. Nobody will know. And nobody will know. And your job is just to market
16:55Speaker 2it's harder than you think. Yeah, we, we're talking about this off camera about some other stuff and, everybody thinks that they can sell peptides because they're so, you know, they're great. They're everybody loves them and they sold a few to their cousins and stuff, but it's not as easy as people think. And just because we've met a lot of people that have crossed our paths and had questions and stuff and,
17:16Speaker 2know, it is a great market. You can't sell them directly. It's research purpose only. There's gray everywhere
17:23Speaker 2laws everywhere and banking doesn't like peptides and banks shut down peptide companies. I could go on and on and on. So I think when people
17:33Speaker 2think through this, and this isn't meant to deter you for whatever your objectives are, but it's a lot more difficult than I think most people do think.
17:55Speaker 2know, when we were younger, you know, even gear and things like that that we were into and just we read about them and read about them, read about them, study them, and then implement. And that stuff can only come with some time,
18:07Speaker 2know? And so what I would recommend, start where everything in your headphones, peptides,
18:14Speaker 2Just listen, listen, listen, YouTube when you're not working. And even how I do it when I'm trying to like study something in particular is I have whatever I'm studied in my ears at all times, even if I'm not really listening, you get little glimpses and you might get a nugget and I write it down and I write it down into
18:41Speaker 2that well if you don't have your firsthand knowledge of how it works. Like how I was talking about Tesofensine. I hated it. Thought it was Tesofit, and then I, I'm not even like following my own advice to give some time. I tried it again. I love it. Think it's amazing.
19:03Speaker 2it's finally coming around hormone replacement. I would definitely start to dig into that.
19:08Speaker 2But to answer your question, it's just a lot of studying. Should you get into the research side?
19:13Speaker 2Like we said, it's a lot harder, but there are companies that if you can find the marketing,
19:18Speaker 2they could literally just white label and send them out and nobody would know that it wasn't you. So they're there, but the studying part and you educating them, that's the part that probably come with a lot of time on your hands. So
19:36Speaker 2Mister William T. Haas, JD's voice. Since you're an avid reader, what books can you recommend on peptides? What sources have been most formative for you?
19:48Speaker 2PS, I just started my peptide journey about 6 weeks ago, found your podcast and have listened to nearly every episode, some even 2 or 3 times just because there's so much to unpack. Very grateful for you both. Please keep it up, Rob. Good stuff. Alright, you're okay. To answer that 1, I have read
20:06Speaker 3so early on, there were several books that I started reading and to be honest, was like not very impressed with any of them. I
20:16Speaker 3too evolving and new research is coming out. These things are so new. Any book that is written is going to be old news probably by the time that you are reading it. And so
20:29Speaker 3I haven't really spent any time actually reading books on peptides. Now, what I will read, so your number 1 most valuable thing for actual real
21:17Speaker 10 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes.
21:31Speaker 3and and there's no 1 source. Just like everything on the internet, right, you better be reading 10 different sources
21:37Speaker 3about the same thing because there's a lot of idiots that just can, I mean, can write whatever the hell they want, right? And if you just believe everything that you read, there's problems. So PubMed, I would do PubMed and you just deep dive, right? Like, it's like you read 1 article and then the words you don't know in there,
21:54Speaker 3you research each 1 of those. Then you read up on those on each word, right? So there is a lot,
22:02Speaker 3that's the best thing I can give you. Now, I will say that Jay Campbell, who we had on here, right,
22:15Speaker 3to, to start to TRT or something like that. Way before its time. Way before its time. Like, that was very helpful, and I know how he writes. Like, he just put out his he's got a book literally that's this big.
22:26Speaker 3Seriously. This thick. Literally. Just on GLP once. So I bet there is some and no, I have not read that whole thing. Absolutely not.
22:36Speaker 3But I bet you could probably you could actually trust a lot of stuff that Jay Campbell was gonna put out.
22:42Speaker 3There's that's a lot to say about this that I never knew that somebody would have that much to say on on few ones, but it's
22:49Speaker 3got a ton of research information. So I think, I don't know, any print books, I would that's the only thing there's probably other ones out there, so don't be mad at me for not knowing everything, people.
23:06Speaker 2of what it is I'm studying, whether it be supplements, gear, peptides, whatever. I have people that I trust fasting. When I started getting into fasting,
23:14Speaker 2I lost into a lot of different fasting stuff and I kind of deciphered who I didn't like and who I kind of obviously could tell who knew what they were talking about. Yeah. And then I kind of wounded it down and I just gorged myself. I'm such an OCD guy that when I'm just, I want to learn everything about it because I'm just, you know what I mean? And that's always worked for me. So that's how I would, how I do it at least is podcasts,
23:37Speaker 2a lot of YouTube, find some certain people that I like, and then just take notes. And then I would, if I was you and wanted to learn about peptides, I would write them all out and then take notes on every 1 of them. And that's how I learn. Have to write things out Reading them just goes in and when they're in out, have to write down notes and that's how I do it. There are conferences out there. So there's usually like, there's, there's,
24:01Speaker 3Google search that. There's definitely something like peptide conferences, like peptide world conference. They'll have keynote
24:08Speaker 2speakers. You can go to there and learn a ton. 0 As we are talking to these 1st 2 questions, something that was kind of, that just was really rad that just dawned on me is,
24:24Speaker 2I never thought I was going to get my dad to inject an appetite. I tried and tried and tried. He's had back problems. I'm like, Bob, listen, you know what your son does for a living? You know I mean? And finally, he broke down at Christmas and he's like, what do you think he said? That wasn't that bad. I told you it wasn't that. Now he gets
24:42Speaker 2but it's awesome. And now he's always telling all his friends about peptides and stuff, but that's how it works, man. It's so rad. And I was thinking of this,
24:52Speaker 2about a pharmaceutical drug. Did you know about this? He's done like spread like wildfire. And the reason is because they work, man. It's just, I love seeing it. Just amazing. Like, and scallop top, You're
25:06Speaker 2but probably many haven't heard of how my 1st interaction with peptides was from this dude right here is when I had tendonitis,
25:12Speaker 2and, I had never even heard about peptides. And I was like, take this. BPC 1 5 7. I'm like, what the hell is that?
25:30Speaker 3Next 1. Hi, guys. I love the podcast and everything you do. Very grateful for the info you put out. So my wife and I both ran Ipamorelin and IGF-1LR
25:41Speaker 3weeks dose of Ipamorelin at 150 micrograms at night before bed and 20 micrograms of IGF-1LR
25:48Speaker 3Post workouts, we got great results. But right at the end of our 4 week cycle, we noticed our lips turn a shade darker and some common moles
25:57Speaker 3get darker. My question is, have you heard of this happening, or is it due to our GH levels going up? That is this is the closest thing I have found. High GH levels cause those symptoms. Just wanted to know if you think once our levels return to normal, if these symptoms will fade, or if there's something more serious to worry about.
26:14Speaker 3I've got mixed answers researching on my own. I was also concerned because I wanted to eventually hop on real GH and started to wonder if this is something to watch out for on GH itself. Any of your thoughts greatly appreciated, and thank you once again for everything you guys do to keep up the great work. God bless.
26:44Speaker 3I don't think I've experienced that. I haven't. And I've been taking HGH for a long time. I don't think I know that, but also, so those
26:58Speaker 3for what we know, yeah, those will go down those will go down once you get off. But, yeah, I don't know. I've never experienced that, and I've never had anybody else ever actually experience it, and I've been taking real growth. Both at the same time. Both at same time.
27:11Speaker 21 of you had that, we we all are act different. When when and your bride, I was like, wow, that's weird. That is weird. Both of you. Right. Because I've never. And you're not taking a high dose. Like, both of those dosages are are that freaking the Ipamorelin is a super low dose,
27:28Speaker 3is also a low, like, starting dose. So I don't, that is odd. I mean, the other thing that makes that happen is Melanotan II. I know. So those are the where you're taking that by chance. Yeah. Are you taking that 1 by chance?
27:41Speaker 3Hopefully not, but you would have known, like, here's the deal. Let's say you thought you were taking something, but it was actually MTN2.
28:00Speaker 3because that stuff definitely makes your makes freckles darker, makes it pop out, but when you stop, they do decrease. So that's good news.
28:12Speaker 2you too, I've never really heard. I've read a little bit about that. It can, I've just never seen it happen. So again, with you and your bride, they're both happening. That's odd to me, but it is what it is. Guess I
28:21Speaker 2would say I would change out them out for the HGH anyway, dude. I think he's 50, right? Did he say?
28:41Speaker 2actual HGH better than any secretagogue personally. If I had to choose 1 without a doubt, hands down.
28:46Speaker 2So why don't you try that? Why don't you try it for a few months? See if if you have that same problem. If not, there you go. Mhmm.
29:02Speaker 25 to 6 days a week in great shape. Diet is on point and very clean. Looking for recommendations
29:42Speaker 3It's not something you wanna mess with. And so like your type 1 diabetes, like that gets,
29:46Speaker 3you know, you know who that question asker. Yeah, you know. It is serious. So like any of the secretagogues,
30:01Speaker 3right? That are FDA approved, they're definitely not FDA approved for people with type 1 diabetes because
30:13Speaker 3of your glucose levels and that's what you really, really need. Hopefully, you you said your diet's on point, good for you. Absolutely.
30:22Speaker 3because you're with type 1 diabetes. Right? That makes life a lot easier. So that's tough. I still think, you know, 3 to 5 pounds, like, I don't know, depending on how well you can monitor. I mean,
30:39Speaker 3I don't know. It's up to you though. I'm not gonna say you should do that, but that is something that will work a 100%. But I don't know. No, the secretagogues,
30:49Speaker 3let me think on that. I don't know, JD, what do you think? I would say from your goals,
31:30Speaker 2I know I would probably steer away from that. So I'm not gonna leave that 1 alone. On 4 for the premenopausal.
31:39Speaker 2I would not generally for a gal that's going through a premenopausal and that type of stuff. I would say 880, SS-31MOTSC,
31:50Speaker 2for the sex drive and then Selank for just kind of keep your mood in line. And then lastly,
32:03Speaker 3I would just do 1 at a time. Yeah. Check your glucose like more frequently than you normally do. You're
32:14Speaker 2You know, you're, you're on a good spot as it is. I just wouldn't mess with that stuff. So I'd go low, go low and slow. But the AOD, I think is a good
32:22Speaker 21. The BPC and the TB and the AOD, those 2 you can run together. Bet you get a lot from that. Yeah. Kisspeptin-ten
32:40Speaker 3to to try out. But really, yes, be wary of anything that's going to affect that blood sugar insulin sensitivity axis. Sure. Okay? Whatever you do, just test your glucose
32:54Speaker 3Keep a good eye on it so you can do something to adjust it if something's going weird. Shoot that. Alright.
33:05Speaker 3Praying God continues blessing you with strength, knowledge, and love to help us brothers and sisters through this peptide way of life. 50
33:25Speaker 3pellets. Wow. Cool. Current protocol is 5 mg of, Wolverine direct to shoulder for inflammation,
33:44Speaker 3I do red light therapy, cold plunge sauna 3 to 5 times a week. I recently hired a personal trainer to set goals to get to 1 85 and add muscle. Starting to max out my fitness budget, but what additional pebs
33:58Speaker 3with the fat fast and help build muscle? Also, should I drop the 7.5 Migs, Tirzepatide,
34:17Speaker 3it seems like there's a few people that can earn their way to doing a lot of things. Right? And it sounds like, dude, you have earned your way and you're right to,
34:27Speaker 3to use these because it's working. And you're doing everything else, right, that is necessary along with this. Right? You're not just going, I'm just gonna use some drugs and and, you know, you're doing it it seems like you made a ton of progress, so proof is in the pudding. It's working.
34:43Speaker 3And we can't really tell you, hey, this is how much Retta you should do. Right? I would slowly
34:52Speaker 3right, decrease of Retta. Right? Legitimately like that. What I mean by that is, say, so if you're at 2.5,
35:12Speaker 3You and only you my guess is it's gonna be more of like a increase of you might wanna do an increase of 0.25
35:24Speaker 3because I just don't I don't want you ending at 10 mgs of Retta. I think that's probably just too much.
35:33Speaker 3It sounds like you already are. You got a trainer, but, like, dude, that that is gonna be the key to keeping that weight loss off and keeping
35:45Speaker 3secreted gog 100% or HGH. Not you said you're 50 years old, shit. I would just do I would just do regular growth. 1
36:10Speaker 2been, I've been digging into the red a little bit more. And I think, I don't think a whole lot of people need to go over 4 megs.
36:18Speaker 2There's some other studies coming out with that, that, like, once you go over the 4 there, it doesn't, like, catapult you forward. So
36:28Speaker 2I mean, you've done great. You seem like a very, very in tune dude who's very focused, and that goes a long way. And the goal is not to stay on Retatrutide or Tirzepatide
36:37Speaker 2in any type of perpetuity. Obviously, let's start trying to take some of this stuff out and start trying to relay like rely on like you and good habits and diet and your exercise, what you're kicking butt at. And as
36:53Speaker 2try to start putting some, taking some of that stuff out, you know, and start to have your base,
36:58Speaker 2which, you know, guys like Will and I comes easy because we've worked out our whole lives. That kind of stuff, like it's just non negotiable,
37:05Speaker 2but make it a non negotiable for you to change your damn life. Seem to, are, you're stoked, you've seen huge changes. You've tasted
37:12Speaker 2now what it, how great it feels to get better at something and now you have your goal. It's written down here 185,
37:23Speaker 2Let's like get to the basics. You know what I mean? I think you're gonna do it. So, and you got a trainer.
37:51Speaker 2some people get really hungry. So if that's going to mess you up and throw a curve ball at you, then that will be kind of up to you if you could try it, but that will give you some size
38:06Speaker 2that will give you size. It's not gear. So try that. But good job, man. You're kicking butt, Dude,
38:12Speaker 2that's awesome. Keep us posted, man. I wanna see if you get to that. And, man, run that HGH. Nothing. You're 50 years old. TRT,
38:19Speaker 2man, your free test is freaking high, bro. You must be like Yeah. Ready to run a mile every day
38:26Speaker 2So good stuff. All right. Yep. All right. Okay. My doctors have been pushing statins for my APOB
38:58Speaker 3Interesting 1. Yeah. So I don't I don't have I do not have any personal experience with cardiogen or Vesugen,
39:09Speaker 3You can't go wrong with that. And I do think it it might help. It ain't gonna hurt. And,
39:18Speaker 3right, targets vascular tissue, which is a good thing, and that's what we want. We're looking for cardioprotective
39:31Speaker 3has like, it's been used in Eastern Europe and there's a whole lot of, there is a lot of research in
39:36Speaker 3Eastern Europe. So I haven't used either of those, but I think you're on the right track there.
40:06Speaker 3I I think that that's also great. I think your biggest thing, dude, I think you're right to kind of not wanna take the statins
40:40Speaker 2Oh yeah, that base. I wish you would have told us what your diet was because that's definitely huge. It's huge on the statins. I'm sure by now most people know my thing. I don't think anybody should take a statin, so good job on that. The Retta will improve the cardiovascular outcome because it's going to bring down your weight.
41:19Speaker 2it's a little bit different. Fasting for women and men is definitely a little bit different, but for men, man, the benefits are off the freaking charts. I mean, literally, if you just slow down and just think logically.
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42:37Speaker 2like, it doesn't matter where you're from, fasting is done there. So that should answer a lot of it for people.
42:51Speaker 216 hours, when you get to a 16 hour, which is nothing once you start doing it, it really isn't, especially if you're working, like you don't, at least you're working, you don't think about it. But 16 hours is when autophagy starts, and autophagy is when dead cells die off and then brand new ones take their place. So if you could do a 72 hour fast
43:10Speaker 2then maybe Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, do like longer fast, start slow, like just take out breakfast and
43:24Speaker 2And that's your window. The rest of the time you're fasting. And I know that sounds hard for people, but it really is not that. Actually, was when I started at 12:00. It seemed like it was like so far away, but,
43:47Speaker 2learned years and years ago, about 10 years ago when I started fasting that like when I'm faced with something hard, which you are,
43:59Speaker 272 hour fast when your mind is not in it is a bitch. It just really is, but like meet hard with hard. And again, it's something spiritual about it too,
44:12Speaker 2try it. I think that and the diet, Will said, I think those 2 are going to supersede any peptide at this point. Nice.
44:19Speaker 3All right, next 1. So I have a friend that was in a motorcycle accident about 3 years ago, damaged his ankle pretty bad,
44:27Speaker 3Has had numerous surgeries and has now been a few years since the last 1. That has left him a lot of scar tissue, ligament, and nerve damage. I know the nerves are more are most likely just to take time, but will Warbarin blend
44:43Speaker 3or has it just been too long? I know it helps tremendously with new injuries, but haven't heard, you cover anything regarding really old injuries. Thanks for all you do. Your podcast has been a tremendous blessing and a journey
44:56Speaker 3to my journey, and I'm hoping to pass some benefits on to those important in my life. Right on, dude. So absolutely,
45:14Speaker 3yes, from their sleep state and they've decided to not stop healing, right? Peptides absolutely can make a difference.
45:23Speaker 3hundred, for sure. I would would do I mean, the Wolverine blend, yes. TB-five hundred is like notorious for really helping to kickstart
45:32Speaker 3old chronic injuries or dormant injuries that have decided to just give up on the healing process.
45:39Speaker 3Wake up, And I would absolutely like do the injections right in that ankle, you know, maybe a triangle around the main
45:51Speaker 3Yeah. Ship clip. Yeah. And this way, at least your ankle, you can you can you can grab your own skin. Right? But you can just go you know, you could just put it right underneath the skin and sub q or or intramuscular
46:05Speaker 3I've I've I've inject, like, in my tendon. It's kind of a weird feeling, and I would use a brand new needle, but I've done it. Yeah. I've done it. So
46:26Speaker 3and that's not an actual hernia. Although, I had surgery for the hernia. They woke me up on after the surgery and said, well, we didn't find a hernia, but we still, like, line both the sides of your Fixed stomach elbow, though. With metal mesh. And I'm like, alright. Good. Yeah. I guess Did I ask when somebody stabs me in the stomach. They hopefully, their knife bounces off the metal mesh. But, yeah, it still hurt in the same place. So what I have is a sports hernia is essentially like 1 of the tendons coming up from my groin that was attached to my pelvis bone.
47:01Speaker 3I couldn't sprint. Like, there was no running as fast as I can, rolling over at night in bed, like, I had to lift this leg up.
47:09Speaker 3It hurt me all the time. And to the point where it was like, dude, I had I had tried so many different things, like the myofascial release with the metal
47:33Speaker 3a little bit of BPC in the beginning and the end. This was early on in my journey that coupled with a lot of mobility,
47:43Speaker 3and all of a sudden, 8 weeks later, I kind of woke up 1 day. I'm like, dude, this is like, there's
47:57Speaker 3was a dormant chronic injury that had given up on healing. And I went to Beverly Hills surgeons and their best thing was to, we'll just clip the nerve so
48:18Speaker 2yeah, I would do that. That's what I would do. Yeah. What I think- That's great, man. I like him. I think everybody has a BPC or a TB story. Everybody has 1 story like that. I remember I had this, I think it was my left. I don't even know which 1 it is now because I couldn't lift my shoulder up forever, like literally every years, years. And then,
48:37Speaker 2we at 1st were like thinking that there was they together, they weren't Yeah. Yeah. We talked about it, blah blah blah. So I didn't have
48:44Speaker 2that much hope in it because, know, we had talked about it a little bit, but I'm like, let me try it. And,
48:51Speaker 23 days in the shoulder and I'm not even kidding you. Was like, holy shit. Like, woah, dude, I have not lifted my shoulder.
48:58Speaker 2My arm above my shoulder. And so freaking loud, I was blown away by it, literally blown away by it. So
49:05Speaker 2the answer is yes. Nerves take a long time to do though. Had almost had drop foot to the degree where I was, they thought I was going to like lose mobility in my ankle and my foot.
49:18Speaker 2it took forever for that thing to get back. But, I think you need to tell your friend to get moving, do not stay like just chilling,
49:26Speaker 2get moving, walk on it, like try to run on it and just get blood flowing through that. The
49:35Speaker 3get blood flowing. Yep. That and the teeth and the Wolverine is going to do you wonders, man. Yeah. And kind of the worst thing a person can do, if you weren't trying to heal something is like is like to do nothing. Yeah. Right? Like, you need it, for example, if it's an ankle, right, to just straight immobilize it and not let it move, it heal,
49:52Speaker 3but very slowly and heal, not very mobile. Right? Yeah. It needs to be moved. Right? Yeah. It needs blood. Right? Blood is our well, course it hurts. Blood. Like It needs blood, but it you can't, we don't want you moving it so so much, so fast where you get this spike
50:13Speaker 3God made us with pain for a reason. If it's fucking really sharp pain, that means stop.
50:18Speaker 3Right? The dull pain is okay. That's good for it. It's bringing blood in there. It's gonna heal. But,
50:32Speaker 2I hope this isn't redundant. I've heard you guys talk before about combining peptides into 1 syringe
50:50Speaker 2Obviously NAD wouldn't be every day, but on days I do, I'd rather add it if possible rather than another stick. I've read and heard some have issues with the AOD gelling,
51:13Speaker 2and some have said 0.5 and 0.5. Mhmm. So much conflicting information. Just wondering if you could please clarify that 1 so I don't waste it. I love the podcast, and I've learned so much. I truly appreciate all your helpful information you guys give. Thanks so much, Miranda.
51:29Speaker 3Yep. So this 1 comes up, yeah, a lot. Okay. So Miranda, here's the thing. I just, I don't have a
51:37Speaker 3you will notice if you do this enough and you try enough things. So I know that, like, HGH should be done just by itself. Okay? So should HCG.
51:55Speaker 3draw something else. And I think maybe maybe 1 of the GHPs and you'll know, you'll see when it mixes, like just starts to turn white.
52:08Speaker 3I can't remember what it was with the HGH, but I would say like, hey, the HGH, keep it by itself. I know you maybe didn't ask about that, but, the Retas, GLP-1s,
52:25Speaker 3AOD water. Okay? And that is, that's something that I guess we have coined, but that is a premix
52:41Speaker 3kill the sting of the acetic acid. So, no, you do not wanna mix the AOD with like 100%
52:49Speaker 3You should be able to, and we can if you want DM us, we can kinda tell you exactly where to buy this premixed correct mixture to mix your AOD with. Now that mixture, this AOD water
53:01Speaker 3should only be mixed with AOD and SLU-3. Like I can't, if you mix it with anything else, it will ruin Yeah, the other
53:16Speaker 3if you drew the AOD up and then now you try to draw something else up that, and now it's got the AOD water in it, it will ruin the other 1. It'll make that gel up or look really weird. So, no. So AOD,
53:36Speaker 3But if you mix, if you draw 1 thing and then you draw the next thing and it, like, dramatically changes color
53:50Speaker 3just injected it quickly. I'm like, oh shit, let's just do it fast before it like coagulates together.
54:07Speaker 2his answer, I think, because we had posted something and we got attacked. I'm used to it. I don't think he is. And
54:14Speaker 2I mean, my answer is gonna be a little bit different because I've done it a lot and I don't think there's necessarily an actual right or wrong. It's why
54:24Speaker 2done the HGH separate. I never mixed the Retatrutide and I never would mix my ACG. Those are just ones I wanted to do separate because I wanted those to make sure those ones worked. And as time went on, I'm like, I'm tired and I'm in a hurry today. I just started eventually mixing them all and I never had a problem. So I'm not saying you should, I'm just saying I do.
54:53Speaker 2I've done it and I don't have a problem with it. I'm not saying you should copy me or him, Just try them both maybe and see which 1 works for you. And if you don't think that you want to, then don't. It's not simple. I
55:06Speaker 2really that simple. I don't think there is an actual right or wrong. If it bugs you, it's a little cloudy, which it doesn't for me,
55:18Speaker 3I don't know. Maybe I am. Is it a Hello Warriors? Sure. Alright. Hello Warriors hot topic, endometriosis.
55:29Speaker 3wants to put me on birth control for cramps and painful cycles. I'm 34, no kids. Hashimoto's,
55:40Speaker 3I live 5 days a week and walk 5 to 8 miles a day. I know endo has a lot to do with inflammation, but curious if you haven't had anyone do peptides for this. Currently taking KPV,
55:57Speaker 2Yeah. So what an interesting question. This just came up. We just did podcasts on it. Did we? The endometriosis?
56:08Speaker 3It's kind of a complex that I don't I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna kinda bow out like I am not
56:14Speaker 3prepared to give you an answer on that 1. I will. I'll ask Paul to see if he's got a specific protocol for that,
56:28Speaker 2Yeah. She's done the obviously, she's done some research because those are actually right. So Paul's thing, I I listened to our podcast over because I wanted to kinda get his protocol because he was talking and we dug deep into, auto immune, which we pretty much all have,
56:51Speaker 2the tricky thing with the LL-thirty 7 is if you pull it into early, it can do a counteract
56:59Speaker 2and it's a very, very low dose. I wish I had my phone and I would tell you it's literally virtually nothing.
57:13Speaker 3Because basically it is just, it is pulling all the toxins out of your bloodstream and then there's toxins 1st Go to your body. Kind of get unleashed into your body and you kind of perks out, right? His solution to that is add in some VIP right away to flush those immediately,
57:44Speaker 2So I would definitely go back and listen to the podcast last week. I did personally yesterday because I wanted to write that down. I didn't know
57:57Speaker 2kind of back to the basics again, you want to cut out sugar and seed oils and glucose,
58:02Speaker 2And I think that's going to help you as well. So, but read that. It'll help you with that.
58:17Speaker 2Alright. I'll take this home. Hello, or hey fellows, love the show and learn so much from you guys. I have a 16 year old dog, this is for you baby. Yeah. Dog that has really bad hips and I heard you guys say on an episode that you would give BBC-one hundred 57 to your dog to help. I have 10 mg Wolverine and would it be okay to give the blend to my dog? If so,
58:50Speaker 3Will has, gave your dog TB-five hundred, right? TB-five hundred and BPC. You gave both. Yeah. I would absolutely do it. I'd probably give them like a, you know, so your dog, depending on how, what size your dog is. Yeah. You know, these the dosages really are all based upon weight.
59:23Speaker 3It actually probably would help a lot more too. So this one's on your budget. Like I'd give him as much as he possibly can and I would inject him right in both hips
59:31Speaker 3daily. Which doesn't help. Watch, well, watch watch the recovery. And I have a friend who's doing it right now. I have another,
59:43Speaker 3on canines, especially from TB-five hundred, by the way. So, yeah, give it to him. GHK-one. CU is another 1, but, like, good luck. If I give my dog GHK-one,
1:00:08Speaker 3Stay right there. Not like getting messed up. Don't come close. Yeah. So I would still, it was a struggle, though. I mean, once it took me, like, 2.5 hours to pull out all these
1:00:16Speaker 3cactus barbs with a with within some needle nose pliers out of his paws. Jeez. Because whether he, you know, he's got them sticking out of his face and he ran through the back bay at night chasing a rabbit just full speed through there. Just running through cactuses and and Jeez. No hurt.
1:00:33Speaker 3Yeah. Poor guy. You lost for you. Yeah. Was No. He did not care, though. Like, dude, if there was something I envy about that dog, like, learning lesson is like, goddamn, I wish I had the passion
1:00:48Speaker 2nothing is stopping me from my goal. Dude, we used to have a meeting on my house on Wednesday during COVID and we'd have a bunch of guys come over and Will would put his dog out in my backyard. And this 1 time,
1:01:00Speaker 2we just had the meeting about an hour and we go in the backyard and he had killed 3 possums and laid them right next to each other, of was sitting there kind of like all proud.
1:01:11Speaker 2And I was like, how the hell did that happen? Because every time look at him, he's sitting there. But we never heard like a squeal or nothing. He laid them all out as if like he was doing, see? Yeah, I got it. And we were like, dude, that was crazy. We had possums back then? Yeah, yeah, what the hell? I remember listening to me a picture of that. Yeah. Like,
1:01:27Speaker 3look what she was doing while we were it was only an hour. Yeah. Yeah. Had cats inside. He would sit there and just stare at my cat. Yes. Or my wife said I had cats. Yeah. But that's He would just they're like, oh, boy. I want you. I wanna eat.
1:01:40Speaker 2Well, that is the show guys. We are make sure you join us on school. We got big things coming for that. We've been pretty busy, but it's 1 of the things we're getting away to kinda get things in line and talk about that a little bit. And,
1:02:05Speaker 2I'll try to some news. Heard this, what day will you hear this? Thursday. I guess we might have some, some DMS or whatnot. If you hear this prior and you have some ideas or some