Peptide Q&A #42 – Starting in Peptides, Peptides for dogs, Skin Pigment Changes & Type 1 Diabetes Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-42-starting-in-peptides-peptides-for-dogs-skin-pigment-changes-type-/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:01 Speaker 0: Hey, Detroit. 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Somebody I wanted to change it a little bit. Quote 1:07 Speaker 2: quote me now Yeah. In the in the in the Well, the questions. So what's going on, man? 1:13 Speaker 3: Let's see what's happening. I don't know. Busy as usual. Like, I'm 1:17 Speaker 3: I'm back. We're going to Vegas this weekend. It's Memorial Day, and it's gonna be like like all of the cool techno DJs are there. Oh, wow. 1:25 Speaker 2: No interest in that. No interest 1:27 Speaker 2: fucking boob. Yeah. Thank God. I know. Thank God I married a woman too that's like, we're like, that sounds like hell. Yes. Yeah, no doubt. At least my girl just wants to go see country music concerts. That's cool. But 1:38 Speaker 3: she loves going seeing the concerts. 1:41 Speaker 3: And I don't as much. 1:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not as much as I used to. No. I always like I'll always like gravitate toward my old punk rock scene. Yeah. It's like it's been so long and I'll be like, wow, man. I just I used to love this stuff every Friday, Saturday, punk rock shows, baby. I've never been big in the music, like going to music shows. I don't know. 2:02 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe he's some kind of person like- Some people love it, man. 2:06 Speaker 3: Like she might 2:07 Speaker 3: she's like seen Morgan Wallen like 8 times. Oh, wow. He's rad. And and just just for example, because she just he just went she just went to go see him in Vegas a couple weekends ago. Cool. But, you know, she's seen Taylor Swift several like, she just keeps going to these things. And I don't care. She's like, hey, can I go? I'm like, are asking? Yes. 2:25 Speaker 2: No. That's what we when we're like, I'm gonna go up to Vegas for the weekend. 2:30 Speaker 2: So walk around naked for a couple That's fun. Take a nap. Yeah. 2:34 Speaker 2: Exactly. All good. Great. Especially, like, in our age, dude, it's like, when you're young, like, you probably were up to no good, but now it's like, hey. I'm just gonna take a couple naps. Yeah. You know I mean? It's like Absolutely. So boring. It's like I love boring, though. Yeah. I, 2:47 Speaker 2: but, yeah, we're flying up to Vegas. 2:50 Speaker 2: We are going to spend some time for those who know, you know, probably know Will and I own a business or businesses together. 2:56 Speaker 2: We're gonna just kind of plot the attack. We're very blessed to have some people in our lives, I think, on both sides that, you know, are pretty good in different business avenues. You know, I've been talking with Mark Moss about some ideas we discussed and vice versa. Just sit down and 3:11 Speaker 2: talk about 3:12 Speaker 3: plans, goals. Love that stuff. Yep. It's so big. Had a brainstorming session of like 3:18 Speaker 3: because there is so much possibility. Those of you I had somebody at Home Depot the other day 3:23 Speaker 3: ask me as 1 that was like, 3:25 Speaker 3: what do I I know you're busy, but like, I don't know. I don't I'm not gonna get anywhere here at Home Depot. Like, I want to do something more. Like, where do you suggest on that I how do I start? 3:36 Speaker 2: Right. And I mean She was asking me when you were there? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. 3:40 Speaker 3: She's 1 of the ladies. She works there at Home Depot. Right? I'm looking for some I don't know. I am always, like, trying to find some, like, engineering 3:49 Speaker 3: feet in our warehouse to, like, do something different. So I'm trying to rig up these, like, long curtains. Anyway, so and, you know, that's a tough. It's a good it's a good question. Like, well, 1st things 1st is, like, you keep asking these questions. Right? Like, keep being curious and keep your brain thinking. But I do think that there is 4:06 Speaker 3: unfortunately, 4:07 Speaker 3: there is just no quick way 4:10 Speaker 3: to do it. Like, I don't care who it is. You can't just, you need to basically become an expert 4:16 Speaker 3: in whatever the hell the business happens to be. And usually people do this by accident, right? They don't. So it's tough, right? I did not plan to be, to like make a living off of you know, peptides. 4:29 Speaker 3: But if I look back, right, for the last 10 years, this all I've been doing, right, is supplements, 4:36 Speaker 3: fitness, like peptide. Right. And the only way that I could have potentially ever even, 4:41 Speaker 3: yes, started a business is 4:45 Speaker 3: because I just knew things so damn well. Right? And I had spent so much time already, 4:51 Speaker 3: right, becoming an expert and not just like on 4:54 Speaker 3: what peptides do, not just like the economics of everything and- Anything nutritive. And connections. Yes, 5:00 Speaker 3: exactly. And so there's, you can't really manufacture that, right? Just gotta- Time. You just have to spend the time Yeah. And that's tough, right, because it took that many years and, like, you don't wanna make the wrong decision. Yeah. But I think that rarely does a person go, alright. 5:15 Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit down. This is where I'm gonna be in This is where I'm gonna wanna be an expert, so I'm gonna start my journey here like, sorry, it doesn't I think you just gotta live your life, be curious, have your brain open to everything, 5:24 Speaker 3: be thinking constantly. 5:26 Speaker 3: So then when an opportunity comes, because like, you're not if you sit around waiting for that billion dollar idea Yeah. 5:32 Speaker 3: It's probably ain't coming. For most people, it never comes. 5:35 Speaker 3: And even if it does come and you've just been sitting out rotating it, you can't maximize it. Yeah. Because you got no practice doing anything. Right? So even if you get that billion dollar idea, bet you screwed up, 5:45 Speaker 3: because you haven't tried and failed 5:47 Speaker 3: with your $100,000 5:49 Speaker 3: ideas 1st. Well, 5:50 Speaker 2: that's the point though. Keep trying. Keep trying. 5:53 Speaker 2: I'd posted something real on this where I believe that we are all blessed with 6:00 Speaker 2: with billion dollar ideas and not necessarily 1000000000, but I'll just use that as how we say it. But when you wake up at 2 in the morning and you're like, wow, 6:08 Speaker 2: oh, and here's the thing, 6:11 Speaker 2: Almost everybody 6:13 Speaker 2: lets that, that they'll go sleep back to sleep and they'll think they'll remember the next day it's gone forever. I believe that's God talking to your soul, talking to your subconscious, 6:21 Speaker 2: whatever 1 wants to say, 6:24 Speaker 2: those that get up and start writing them down. 6:28 Speaker 2: You're going to have a better shot. 6:30 Speaker 2: Secondly, I did my podcast, the iron perspective on this actually last podcast, which was if 6:35 Speaker 2: you want 6:36 Speaker 2: any type of 1, you got to find your purpose to you got to, if you want a direction, you start by getting in shape. 6:43 Speaker 2: If you get in shape, 6:45 Speaker 2: the discipline that it takes to, 6:47 Speaker 2: you become a different person on the journey to abs because it's hard as hell. Right? Everybody would have them otherwise because everybody wants them. Right? So on that journey of the discipline, you become a better person. And if you start to how did you learn to do you studied it. You Yeah. You watched videos, but before we did, this was even on our radar. 7:06 Speaker 2: After the after the meetings, we're like, hey, did you like, we've talked about a compound. Yeah. And we had ironically 7:11 Speaker 2: both had been watching some of the same guys. Right? That's just studying because they're super intrigued by it. But I believe success leaves clues and 7:20 Speaker 2: success. 7:21 Speaker 2: You just have to really follow that. Like the successful people, what do they do? How did they become successful? I believe that there is a roadmap. Here's the problem. Most just won't follow it. Those will not read and study because like we get questions all the time. Like it's kind of silly questions, but it's like, how do you think we learned this? We freaking started 7:40 Speaker 2: hours and hours and hours and hours hours and hours and hours and then implement 7:44 Speaker 2: it, obviously. 7:46 Speaker 2: But I think that it's 7:47 Speaker 2: there for everybody. 7:50 Speaker 2: Most it's most people don't have 7:53 Speaker 2: to start a business, you basically to a degree have to have, for lack of a better way to say it, ball of steel. Yes. Because it's a big ass risk. And 8:01 Speaker 2: so many people are scared of the failure of that risk that they don't try. Yep, absolutely. And that's why 8:08 Speaker 2: Jeremy Jackson had articulated this in a very, very unique way and I loved it. I've never stopped thinking about it. I talk about the black sheep. You and I are both black sheep because 8:17 Speaker 2: we're in recovery and I believe some people come out the womb just different and we were headed in that direction 8:23 Speaker 2: and you don't know how to contain it. When you do and you learn how to focus, which we both have and put it to the right places, 8:30 Speaker 2: damn, we can shine. That's how we hire alcoholics. They 8:33 Speaker 3: are 8:34 Speaker 2: good. They're talented people. Jeremy Jackson articulated it 8:39 Speaker 2: by the warrior gene. And it was very interesting. He said, 8:43 Speaker 2: God gives about 10% of the race, human race, this warrior gene. And the reason he does that is because 8:51 Speaker 2: those are the people that they will not let this race die. Meaning when the bear comes running at you, 90% are running this way and 10% are going, all right, bro. Like it's you or me bro, but I'm living today. You know what I mean? And those are the people that like kind of into drugs and alcohol. Yep. But they have that risk tolerance like us that were like, dude, 9:12 Speaker 2: if it don't work, it don't work. I guess I'll figure it out. Yeah. Like, let's jump. Yeah. You know what I mean? I and most people don't have that. Yep. Agreed. I mean, if you look at, like, let's say firefighters, for example, 9:22 Speaker 3: the alcoholism 9:23 Speaker 3: rates amongst firefighters is, like, huge. And I actually would argue that it's probably not because the fire the trauma that they see on the job creates that. I think that Right. Those are the people who decide to become firefighters. Yeah. Those are the people who think it's a good idea to run into a fire. Okay. And they have something already wrong with them. Sure. But that is 9:45 Speaker 3: the 9:46 Speaker 3: survival of the species. And then, I mean, another here's another 1. So back in ancient times, right, so alcoholism, 9:52 Speaker 3: right, is a disease. Okay? It's an incurable disease. 9:55 Speaker 3: Like every other incurable disease, 9:58 Speaker 3: everything finally, the hosts die off, okay, in the history of the world. Right? All diseases that are like fatal 10:05 Speaker 3: and incurable, like alcoholism, 10:09 Speaker 3: the hosts finally die off and the disease dies off forever. Okay? But not so with alcoholism, right? Because 10:15 Speaker 3: back in the day, like to William Wallace, right, he was the alcoholic. Right? And the tribe Right. Did everything they could to artificially keep him alive because 10:25 Speaker 3: he was their only salvation, like, in people like him, right, that would just run towards 10:29 Speaker 3: battle and protect them all. And so even though he would do some dumb, crazy stuff, the tribe would still be like, No, it's okay. Come on back. We won't kick you out quite yet. And 10:42 Speaker 3: so, yeah, I agree. The other thing is like people, 10:46 Speaker 3: I guess in alcoholism, other things, right, we are programmed to remember pleasure 10:51 Speaker 3: way more than pain. Sure. Okay? So 10:54 Speaker 3: because 10:55 Speaker 3: so like for drugs and alcohol, people are like, Oh, I'm not going do that again because my detox was so bad. Yeah. Good luck. You'll that shit 11:02 Speaker 3: tomorrow. Yeah. But 11:04 Speaker 3: you will remember how great just doing a little bit of the felt. Right? And like, because, like, back in ancient times when we had when the when the when the men went out to go hunting, right, we were to go kill a bunch of buffalo, let's say, it was hard and your buddies died and it was miserable, right? People got gouged and 11:22 Speaker 3: friends died and then you were starving to death and that sucked, right? But when you come home and you fed 11:29 Speaker 3: your wife and kids and the whole tribe, 11:32 Speaker 3: that pleasure 11:33 Speaker 3: feeling, right, outweighed everything. Sure. And a logical person a logical person would go, 11:40 Speaker 3: was that worth it? Wait a minute. All of this death and misery just for this. Right? Like, I don't think that's worth it. Why don't we just be berry eaters? 11:49 Speaker 3: Right? That actually does make more sense, by the way. 11:52 Speaker 3: That's analytical guy. We are we are just biologically programmed 11:56 Speaker 3: to 11:57 Speaker 3: enjoy that can pleasure spike. And guess what? This is why we're never content. You know what I'm saying? We're never content. We did and this is why our species survives 12:06 Speaker 3: because 12:07 Speaker 3: we always just want more. We want that pleasure despite it being the harder thing to do. 12:13 Speaker 2: So that's my theory. Whatever. Love it. We, I had a guy, yesterday and, 12:18 Speaker 2: you know, with our channels and, like, Will doesn't get to see this many of the comments. I sent cool ones to him though, but, like, I got a comment from the guy and, certain ones moved me and he was, 12:27 Speaker 2: he said, thank you so much, man. Some of your posts literally 12:32 Speaker 2: to a degree saved my life to the degree I need them at that time to talk about my sobriety posts and stuff like that. He was a firefighter. Mhmm. And he said I fell into alcoholism and, 12:42 Speaker 2: it was a very uplifting post. 12:44 Speaker 2: And the reason I bring that up is I 12:47 Speaker 2: don't think that we probably even sit on it, 12:49 Speaker 2: the gratitude of just like people 12:52 Speaker 2: that they write in. Like people like the show, people enjoy us. We never thought we'd be talking to people enjoying us. That's 12:58 Speaker 2: kind of weird, but cool. We're stoked. 13:01 Speaker 2: We have such a story where we just share it. And my things, I say, tell 13:05 Speaker 2: your story, tell your story, tell your story. If I didn't tell my stories about sobriety, 13:09 Speaker 2: It wouldn't have affected that guy who now wants to pick up the torch and affect other people. So, you know, honestly, 13:15 Speaker 2: to the listeners, I mean, we probably don't say it enough, a little bit, but like, we're grateful as hell for you guys. We, everyone starts off as you're grateful, you love the show, you listen to them over and over, and like, 13:27 Speaker 2: it's just we did this by 2 dudes that got sober and changed their lives and loved talking about this stuff. And, I believe when you try to give back to the world, God puts his hand off. And that's kind of where we're sitting here, and, he definitely has his hand on this podcast because, dude, 13:43 Speaker 2: we definitely ain't the smartest guys out there, and, but you enjoy it, so we're glad to hear it. Right. Yes. You know I mean? So, right. It's mind blowing that Good stuff. Let's start us off, my man. All right. So here we go. Question 1: How could someone like myself get started 13:57 Speaker 3: involved in peptide therapy for others? Right? I have my RN license, which I'm sure means nothing but in the setting of a clinic, 14:04 Speaker 3: with other therapies, it could. 14:06 Speaker 3: However, in the research space, not so much. Is the research space a better place to 14:12 Speaker 3: be if I have the time and money to start something small? 14:16 Speaker 3: Is it less limiting? I'd like to learn more. 14:20 Speaker 3: I'd like to learn more. Is this online? I hear you speak of a conference. Enjoy your show so much. It was recommended 14:27 Speaker 3: to me by my hormone doc. Sweet. And I'm so glad that she shared it with me. I've learned so much and now just completely binge and all the things peptides and impatiently wait for your next show. If this topic isn't a good 1 to be aired, I completely understand. Mr. Will T Haas, 14:42 Speaker 3: that's imitating you saying that. JD's 14:46 Speaker 3: voice, since you're an avid reader- That's a good question. Yeah. Oh, that is. Yep. So it was, I completely understand. Good 14:52 Speaker 2: question. Very interesting. I'm surprised that you didn't get that, but you want me to just take you whenever- I can 14:57 Speaker 3: go. I mean, that's a really good question. I think that 15:00 Speaker 3: your RN license, correct, like, that does not give you any powers to prescribe anything right now. So so it doesn't help there, but it sure, like you said, gives you some clout. Right? You you 15:10 Speaker 3: there is a barrier to your RN license. 15:13 Speaker 3: Right? You've learned more than than normal course. Right? If 15:18 Speaker 3: your goal is to actually help people and be able to 15:24 Speaker 3: really guide them through, like, therapy, peptide therapies, right, then like the research only space is not the space because the whole point there, the research only space is you may not absolutely 15:36 Speaker 3: sell peptides and at the same time tell people how to use them because they are fundamentally 15:40 Speaker 3: for research only. 15:42 Speaker 3: So it is the actual, 15:45 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know if it's a legal rule, but legally 15:48 Speaker 3: you cannot do that. Okay? So if you to, 15:52 Speaker 3: if you actually want to be able to tell people how to use peptides and make 15:55 Speaker 3: some money off of it, The research space isn't the spot to do it. I would probably find it, 1st of all, establish yourself as an expert and, like, really, really know your stuff. Maybe find a doctor who's already, 16:05 Speaker 3: implementing peptides in his practice and see if you can 16:09 Speaker 3: join forces with him. But, 16:13 Speaker 3: hey, if your goal is to make money, 16:15 Speaker 3: also, you said you have some money and some time, there is absolutely 16:18 Speaker 3: opportunities in the research space to and even like the easiest entry, the easiest way to enter, there are bigger companies that are essentially distributors, 16:28 Speaker 3: and they are the ones who source and house all of the products. And just like most products out there in this world, you can create a website 16:36 Speaker 3: and market it, which is the hardest name part, 16:39 Speaker 3: and 16:41 Speaker 3: link up with that distributor and they will send their products to your customers and white label their products. 16:47 Speaker 3: I white label your products so they look like yours. Nobody will know. And nobody will know. And your job is just to market 16:53 Speaker 3: your website, but 16:55 Speaker 2: it's harder than you think. Yeah, we, we're talking about this off camera about some other stuff and, everybody thinks that they can sell peptides because they're so, you know, they're great. They're everybody loves them and they sold a few to their cousins and stuff, but it's not as easy as people think. And just because we've met a lot of people that have crossed our paths and had questions and stuff and, 17:16 Speaker 2: know, it is a great market. You can't sell them directly. It's research purpose only. There's gray everywhere 17:22 Speaker 2: and 17:23 Speaker 2: laws everywhere and banking doesn't like peptides and banks shut down peptide companies. I could go on and on and on. So I think when people 17:33 Speaker 2: think through this, and this isn't meant to deter you for whatever your objectives are, but it's a lot more difficult than I think most people do think. 17:41 Speaker 2: It can't be done, just has to be done properly. Now, 17:44 Speaker 2: Will said it. We were just talking about it, you know, before we started where 17:49 Speaker 2: we've been researching these things for so long. I mean, compounds, supplements, 17:55 Speaker 2: know, when we were younger, you know, even gear and things like that that we were into and just we read about them and read about them, read about them, study them, and then implement. And that stuff can only come with some time, 18:07 Speaker 2: know? And so what I would recommend, start where everything in your headphones, peptides, 18:12 Speaker 2: podcasts 18:13 Speaker 2: everywhere. 18:14 Speaker 2: Just listen, listen, listen, YouTube when you're not working. And even how I do it when I'm trying to like study something in particular is I have whatever I'm studied in my ears at all times, even if I'm not really listening, you get little glimpses and you might get a nugget and I write it down and I write it down into 18:31 Speaker 2: that's where you begin, 18:33 Speaker 2: because it takes a long time and then there's nothing better 18:37 Speaker 2: than you trying them all. You 18:39 Speaker 2: can't sell something 18:41 Speaker 2: that well if you don't have your firsthand knowledge of how it works. Like how I was talking about Tesofensine. I hated it. Thought it was Tesofit, and then I, I'm not even like following my own advice to give some time. I tried it again. I love it. Think it's amazing. 18:55 Speaker 2: So that type of stuff, 18:57 Speaker 2: you want to learn about mitochondria, 18:58 Speaker 2: hormone health, 19:00 Speaker 2: is huge for ladies. Women, 19:03 Speaker 2: it's finally coming around hormone replacement. I would definitely start to dig into that. 19:08 Speaker 2: But to answer your question, it's just a lot of studying. Should you get into the research side? 19:13 Speaker 2: Like we said, it's a lot harder, but there are companies that if you can find the marketing, 19:18 Speaker 2: they could literally just white label and send them out and nobody would know that it wasn't you. So they're there, but the studying part and you educating them, that's the part that probably come with a lot of time on your hands. So 19:32 Speaker 2: hope that helped. All right. 19:36 Speaker 2: Mister William T. Haas, JD's voice. Since you're an avid reader, what books can you recommend on peptides? What sources have been most formative for you? 19:48 Speaker 2: PS, I just started my peptide journey about 6 weeks ago, found your podcast and have listened to nearly every episode, some even 2 or 3 times just because there's so much to unpack. Very grateful for you both. Please keep it up, Rob. Good stuff. Alright, you're okay. To answer that 1, I have read 20:06 Speaker 3: so early on, there were several books that I started reading and to be honest, was like not very impressed with any of them. I 20:14 Speaker 3: think that the peptide space is 20:16 Speaker 3: too evolving and new research is coming out. These things are so new. Any book that is written is going to be old news probably by the time that you are reading it. And so 20:29 Speaker 3: I haven't really spent any time actually reading books on peptides. Now, what I will read, so your number 1 most valuable thing for actual real 20:38 Speaker 3: information is to go to PubMed. 20:40 Speaker 3: All right, that's a website. 20:42 Speaker 3: That will give you all of these re 20:46 Speaker 0: Hey, Detroit. 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Just like everything on the internet, right, you better be reading 10 different sources 21:37 Speaker 3: about the same thing because there's a lot of idiots that just can, I mean, can write whatever the hell they want, right? And if you just believe everything that you read, there's problems. So PubMed, I would do PubMed and you just deep dive, right? Like, it's like you read 1 article and then the words you don't know in there, 21:54 Speaker 3: you research each 1 of those. Then you read up on those on each word, right? So there is a lot, 22:02 Speaker 3: that's the best thing I can give you. Now, I will say that Jay Campbell, who we had on here, right, 22:07 Speaker 3: his 22:08 Speaker 3: actually read early on, I read his testosterone book. Right? I think it was 22:13 Speaker 3: the definitive guide to, to, 22:15 Speaker 3: to, to start to TRT or something like that. Way before its time. Way before its time. Like, that was very helpful, and I know how he writes. Like, he just put out his he's got a book literally that's this big. 22:26 Speaker 3: Seriously. This thick. Literally. Just on GLP once. So I bet there is some and no, I have not read that whole thing. Absolutely not. 22:36 Speaker 3: But I bet you could probably you could actually trust a lot of stuff that Jay Campbell was gonna put out. 22:42 Speaker 3: There's that's a lot to say about this that I never knew that somebody would have that much to say on on few ones, but it's 22:49 Speaker 3: got a ton of research information. So I think, I don't know, any print books, I would that's the only thing there's probably other ones out there, so don't be mad at me for not knowing everything, people. 22:58 Speaker 3: PubMed 22:59 Speaker 3: is your best, that's where I would go. Yeah, 23:03 Speaker 2: I've always, the way I've always kind of done it regardless 23:06 Speaker 2: of what it is I'm studying, whether it be supplements, gear, peptides, whatever. I have people that I trust fasting. When I started getting into fasting, 23:14 Speaker 2: I lost into a lot of different fasting stuff and I kind of deciphered who I didn't like and who I kind of obviously could tell who knew what they were talking about. Yeah. And then I kind of wounded it down and I just gorged myself. I'm such an OCD guy that when I'm just, I want to learn everything about it because I'm just, you know what I mean? And that's always worked for me. So that's how I would, how I do it at least is podcasts, 23:37 Speaker 2: a lot of YouTube, find some certain people that I like, and then just take notes. And then I would, if I was you and wanted to learn about peptides, I would write them all out and then take notes on every 1 of them. And that's how I learn. Have to write things out Reading them just goes in and when they're in out, have to write down notes and that's how I do it. There are conferences out there. So there's usually like, there's, there's, 24:00 Speaker 3: yes, 24:01 Speaker 3: Google search that. There's definitely something like peptide conferences, like peptide world conference. They'll have keynote 24:08 Speaker 2: speakers. You can go to there and learn a ton. 0 As we are talking to these 1st 2 questions, something that was kind of, that just was really rad that just dawned on me is, 24:18 Speaker 2: I mean, just how amazing peptides are. They're literally like just 24:21 Speaker 2: lighting fires on everybody. 24:24 Speaker 2: I never thought I was going to get my dad to inject an appetite. I tried and tried and tried. He's had back problems. I'm like, Bob, listen, you know what your son does for a living? You know I mean? And finally, he broke down at Christmas and he's like, what do you think he said? That wasn't that bad. I told you it wasn't that. Now he gets 24:39 Speaker 2: DC and Wolverine all the time, 24:42 Speaker 2: but it's awesome. And now he's always telling all his friends about peptides and stuff, but that's how it works, man. It's so rad. And I was thinking of this, 24:49 Speaker 2: mean, no one's ever talked 24:52 Speaker 2: about a pharmaceutical drug. Did you know about this? He's done like spread like wildfire. And the reason is because they work, man. It's just, I love seeing it. Just amazing. Like, and scallop top, You're 25:03 Speaker 2: stoked on it. That's what happened to us. I've told this story, 25:06 Speaker 2: but probably many haven't heard of how my 1st interaction with peptides was from this dude right here is when I had tendonitis, 25:12 Speaker 2: and, I had never even heard about peptides. And I was like, take this. BPC 1 5 7. I'm like, what the hell is that? 25:19 Speaker 2: What? You know? And it worked. I was like, holy shit. Wow. You know? I fell in love. 25:25 Speaker 3: That's how it works, man. So good stuff. I'm I'm happy to see it. Yep. Alright. 25:30 Speaker 3: Next 1. Hi, guys. I love the podcast and everything you do. Very grateful for the info you put out. So my wife and I both ran Ipamorelin and IGF-1LR 25:39 Speaker 3: 3 for 4 25:41 Speaker 3: weeks dose of Ipamorelin at 150 micrograms at night before bed and 20 micrograms of IGF-1LR 25:47 Speaker 3: 3. 25:48 Speaker 3: Post workouts, we got great results. But right at the end of our 4 week cycle, we noticed our lips turn a shade darker and some common moles 25:57 Speaker 3: get darker. My question is, have you heard of this happening, or is it due to our GH levels going up? That is this is the closest thing I have found. High GH levels cause those symptoms. Just wanted to know if you think once our levels return to normal, if these symptoms will fade, or if there's something more serious to worry about. 26:14 Speaker 3: I've got mixed answers researching on my own. I was also concerned because I wanted to eventually hop on real GH and started to wonder if this is something to watch out for on GH itself. Any of your thoughts greatly appreciated, and thank you once again for everything you guys do to keep up the great work. God bless. 26:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is 26:32 Speaker 3: a thing. Okay? That is the thing that happens. Higher 26:36 Speaker 3: growth hormone levels can affect your 26:39 Speaker 3: melanin and your pigmentation in your skin. And so 26:44 Speaker 3: I don't think I've experienced that. I haven't. And I've been taking HGH for a long time. I don't think I know that, but also, so those 26:54 Speaker 3: symptoms should decrease. Yes. Those should lighten up and, 26:58 Speaker 3: for what we know, yeah, those will go down those will go down once you get off. But, yeah, I don't know. I've never experienced that, and I've never had anybody else ever actually experience it, and I've been taking real growth. Both at the same time. Both at same time. 27:11 Speaker 2: 1 of you had that, we we all are act different. When when and your bride, I was like, wow, that's weird. That is weird. Both of you. Right. Because I've never. And you're not taking a high dose. Like, both of those dosages are are that freaking the Ipamorelin is a super low dose, 27:26 Speaker 3: and the IGF-1LR-three 27:28 Speaker 3: is also a low, like, starting dose. So I don't, that is odd. I mean, the other thing that makes that happen is Melanotan II. I know. So those are the where you're taking that by chance. Yeah. Are you taking that 1 by chance? 27:41 Speaker 3: Hopefully not, but you would have known, like, here's the deal. Let's say you thought you were taking something, but it was actually MTN2. 27:49 Speaker 3: Did you get nauseous when you injected it after? 27:52 Speaker 3: Did your sex drive increased? Did the male get, like, spontaneous erections? 27:57 Speaker 3: If so, then you probably were taking Melanotan II 28:00 Speaker 3: because that stuff definitely makes your makes freckles darker, makes it pop out, but when you stop, they do decrease. So that's good news. 28:08 Speaker 3: That's all I can say on that 1. Yeah. I mean, 28:12 Speaker 2: you too, I've never really heard. I've read a little bit about that. It can, I've just never seen it happen. So again, with you and your bride, they're both happening. That's odd to me, but it is what it is. Guess I 28:21 Speaker 2: would say I would change out them out for the HGH anyway, dude. I think he's 50, right? Did he say? 28:28 Speaker 2: What? I 28:30 Speaker 2: guess he doesn't say. But any man over 40 man, I think HGH low dose 28:35 Speaker 2: is right up there at TRT. 28:37 Speaker 2: And I like 28:38 Speaker 2: the actual somatropin or 28:41 Speaker 2: actual HGH better than any secretagogue personally. If I had to choose 1 without a doubt, hands down. 28:46 Speaker 2: So why don't you try that? Why don't you try it for a few months? See if if you have that same problem. If not, there you go. Mhmm. 28:53 Speaker 2: Sure. 28:53 Speaker 2: Fix fix. 28:54 Speaker 2: Alright. 28:56 Speaker 2: A question from a friend, 46 year old female, 29:00 Speaker 2: type 1 diabetes. 29:01 Speaker 2: Workout 29:02 Speaker 2: 5 to 6 days a week in great shape. Diet is on point and very clean. Looking for recommendations 29:08 Speaker 2: on the following. 29:10 Speaker 2: Brand new to peptides, 29:11 Speaker 2: I've ever taken anything. 29:13 Speaker 2: My priorities are, number 1, recovery 29:16 Speaker 2: along with just better performance 29:19 Speaker 2: as I age. Number 2, lose 3 to 5 pounds. Number 3, muscle growth as I age, 29:25 Speaker 2: not constant loss 29:27 Speaker 2: for pre menopausal 29:29 Speaker 2: support and then down the line of possibly skin and such, 29:34 Speaker 2: but that isn't my main goal right now. 29:37 Speaker 2: Type 1 diabetes. 29:39 Speaker 2: It's definitely 29:42 Speaker 3: It's not something you wanna mess with. And so like your type 1 diabetes, like that gets, 29:46 Speaker 3: you know, you know who that question asker. Yeah, you know. It is serious. So like any of the secretagogues, 29:53 Speaker 3: they're just can unpredictably 29:54 Speaker 3: change your blood sugar levels. Right? And frankly, we've like all of those GLP-1s, 30:01 Speaker 3: right? That are FDA approved, they're definitely not FDA approved for people with type 1 diabetes because 30:07 Speaker 3: it just- 30:08 Speaker 2: Glucoseism. 30:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, 30:10 Speaker 3: it just can maybe, it can fluctuate. It's not a perfect controller 30:13 Speaker 3: of your glucose levels and that's what you really, really need. Hopefully, you you said your diet's on point, good for you. Absolutely. 30:20 Speaker 3: It should be 30:22 Speaker 3: because you're with type 1 diabetes. Right? That makes life a lot easier. So that's tough. I still think, you know, 3 to 5 pounds, like, I don't know, depending on how well you can monitor. I mean, 30:33 Speaker 3: I 30:34 Speaker 3: don't know. 30:35 Speaker 3: You could do a super low dose of Retta. 30:39 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's up to you though. I'm not gonna say you should do that, but that is something that will work a 100%. But I don't know. No, the secretagogues, 30:49 Speaker 3: let me think on that. I don't know, JD, what do you think? I would say from your goals, 30:56 Speaker 2: goals, recovery, 30:58 Speaker 2: just better performance. 30:59 Speaker 2: Have, 31:01 Speaker 2: so I'd say BPC-3500 31:04 Speaker 2: better performance. You're, you know, you're 46 31:06 Speaker 2: years old. You got some aches and pains for sure. 31:09 Speaker 2: I think what you can get along with 3 to 5 pounds AOD, 31:14 Speaker 2: that's not going to increase your IGF-one. So AOD, I think would be good 31:18 Speaker 2: for 3 muscle growth as I age. 31:24 Speaker 2: A tiny little bit of Tesofensine or Tesamorelin, 31:29 Speaker 2: but 31:30 Speaker 2: I know I would probably steer away from that. So I'm not gonna leave that 1 alone. On 4 for the premenopausal. 31:36 Speaker 2: Here's something that you could try. And I would, with your diabetes, 31:39 Speaker 2: I would not generally for a gal that's going through a premenopausal and that type of stuff. I would say 880, SS-31MOTSC, 31:49 Speaker 2: PET-one41 31:50 Speaker 2: for the sex drive and then Selank for just kind of keep your mood in line. And then lastly, 31:57 Speaker 2: CLO with a K because the KPV is going to be in there 32:00 Speaker 2: with your diabetes issue. 32:03 Speaker 3: I would just do 1 at a time. Yeah. Check your glucose like more frequently than you normally do. You're 32:11 Speaker 2: chilling and you work out 5 to 6 days. 32:14 Speaker 2: You know, you're, you're on a good spot as it is. I just wouldn't mess with that stuff. So I'd go low, go low and slow. But the AOD, I think is a good 32:22 Speaker 2: 1. The BPC and the TB and the AOD, those 2 you can run together. Bet you get a lot from that. Yeah. Kisspeptin-ten 32:28 Speaker 3: is like for, 32:30 Speaker 3: there is some good research out there for, 32:33 Speaker 3: like, 32:34 Speaker 3: hormonal regulatory 32:36 Speaker 3: effects, and so that might be a good thing as you enter menopause, 32:40 Speaker 3: to to try out. But really, yes, be wary of anything that's going to affect that blood sugar insulin sensitivity axis. Sure. Okay? Whatever you do, just test your glucose 32:51 Speaker 3: more frequently than you normally do. 32:54 Speaker 3: Keep a good eye on it so you can do something to adjust it if something's going weird. Shoot that. Alright. 33:00 Speaker 3: Okay. Next. 33:02 Speaker 3: This is me. Hey, sir. Hey, guys. Love the show. 33:05 Speaker 3: Praying God continues blessing you with strength, knowledge, and love to help us brothers and sisters through this peptide way of life. 50 33:12 Speaker 3: year old male, 33:14 Speaker 3: 2 35 down 33:16 Speaker 3: from 3 50. 33:18 Speaker 3: Shit, good job. Damn. Total test is $11.51. 33:22 Speaker 3: Free test 3 0 8 using 33:25 Speaker 3: pellets. Wow. Cool. Current protocol is 5 mg of, Wolverine direct to shoulder for inflammation, 33:31 Speaker 3: from an impingement, 33:33 Speaker 3: 3 mg of GHKCu, 33:35 Speaker 3: hundred milligrams of NAD all daily. 33:38 Speaker 3: 7.5 33:40 Speaker 3: tirzepatide, 33:40 Speaker 3: 3.5 Retta each once a week split. 33:44 Speaker 3: I do red light therapy, cold plunge sauna 3 to 5 times a week. I recently hired a personal trainer to set goals to get to 1 85 and add muscle. Starting to max out my fitness budget, but what additional pebs 33:54 Speaker 3: would you add to, to shred the fat fast 33:58 Speaker 3: with the fat fast and help build muscle? Also, should I drop the 7.5 Migs, Tirzepatide, 34:03 Speaker 3: and up the RET? And if so, what dose? Thank you for 3 blessing me with your answers. 34:09 Speaker 3: Man, this guy's got it down. Yeah. So few like, that's a lot stuff 34:14 Speaker 3: for a person to take, but 34:17 Speaker 3: it seems like there's a few people that can earn their way to doing a lot of things. Right? And it sounds like, dude, you have earned your way and you're right to, 34:27 Speaker 3: to use these because it's working. And you're doing everything else, right, that is necessary along with this. Right? You're not just going, I'm just gonna use some drugs and and, you know, you're doing it it seems like you made a ton of progress, so proof is in the pudding. It's working. 34:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. I would absolutely try to drop the tirzepatide. 34:43 Speaker 3: And we can't really tell you, hey, this is how much Retta you should do. Right? I would slowly 34:48 Speaker 3: I mean, 0.5 0.5 mg for 0.5 mg, 34:52 Speaker 3: right, decrease of Retta. Right? Legitimately like that. What I mean by that is, say, so if you're at 2.5, 34:59 Speaker 3: 3.5 Retta and 7.5 Tirzepatide, right? Let's go in 1 week, go 7, 35:06 Speaker 3: 3 or 4.5. 35:08 Speaker 3: Right? And then 6.5, 35:10 Speaker 3: 4.5. 35:12 Speaker 3: You and only you my guess is it's gonna be more of like a increase of you might wanna do an increase of 0.25 35:19 Speaker 3: to a decrease of 1.5 tirzepatide. 35:22 Speaker 3: So increase Reta by 0.5 35:24 Speaker 3: because I just don't I don't want you ending at 10 mgs of Retta. I think that's probably just too much. 35:31 Speaker 3: You will want to add some muscle. 35:33 Speaker 3: It sounds like you already are. You got a trainer, but, like, dude, that that is gonna be the key to keeping that weight loss off and keeping 35:39 Speaker 3: keeping the weight off and continuing to lose fat. Add that damn muscle. So, a HCG, 35:45 Speaker 3: secreted gog 100% or HGH. Not you said you're 50 years old, shit. I would just do I would just do regular growth. 1 35:53 Speaker 3: to, I mean, 2 to 3 IUs a day, every day. And that 35:59 Speaker 3: will help you keep on some muscle and you just keep working hard. 36:04 Speaker 2: Yeah. Right. 36:06 Speaker 3: Great. Same 36:07 Speaker 2: HGH. 36:09 Speaker 2: I've 36:10 Speaker 2: been, I've been digging into the red a little bit more. And I think, I don't think a whole lot of people need to go over 4 megs. 36:18 Speaker 2: There's some other studies coming out with that, that, like, once you go over the 4 there, it doesn't, like, catapult you forward. So 36:24 Speaker 2: I 36:25 Speaker 2: we both are in agreement you wanna get off of Tirzepatide. 36:28 Speaker 2: I mean, you've done great. You seem like a very, very in tune dude who's very focused, and that goes a long way. And the goal is not to stay on Retatrutide or Tirzepatide 36:37 Speaker 2: in any type of perpetuity. Obviously, let's start trying to take some of this stuff out and start trying to relay like rely on like you and good habits and diet and your exercise, what you're kicking butt at. And as 36:51 Speaker 2: you get to your goals, 36:53 Speaker 2: try to start putting some, taking some of that stuff out, you know, and start to have your base, 36:58 Speaker 2: which, you know, guys like Will and I comes easy because we've worked out our whole lives. That kind of stuff, like it's just non negotiable, 37:05 Speaker 2: but make it a non negotiable for you to change your damn life. Seem to, are, you're stoked, you've seen huge changes. You've tasted 37:12 Speaker 2: now what it, how great it feels to get better at something and now you have your goal. It's written down here 185, 37:19 Speaker 2: you will do it. Like, let's try to not, like, rely on compounds. 37:23 Speaker 2: Let's like get to the basics. You know what I mean? I think you're gonna do it. So, and you got a trainer. 37:28 Speaker 2: The only thing in regards to that you could 37:33 Speaker 2: tentatively add 37:34 Speaker 2: is IGF-1after 37:36 Speaker 2: you left, some people before you left. From the after. And 37:39 Speaker 2: then MK-677, 37:42 Speaker 2: that's going to give you some bulk. 37:44 Speaker 2: It's going to, as long as you have your appetite 37:47 Speaker 2: in check, which I think you're doing good, 37:51 Speaker 2: some people get really hungry. So if that's going to mess you up and throw a curve ball at you, then that will be kind of up to you if you could try it, but that will give you some size 38:01 Speaker 2: for sure. It really will. It's the best thing before gear 38:06 Speaker 2: that will give you size. It's not gear. So try that. But good job, man. You're kicking butt, Dude, 38:12 Speaker 2: that's awesome. Keep us posted, man. I wanna see if you get to that. And, man, run that HGH. Nothing. You're 50 years old. TRT, 38:19 Speaker 2: man, your free test is freaking high, bro. You must be like Yeah. Ready to run a mile every day 38:25 Speaker 2: or 5 miles. 38:26 Speaker 2: So good stuff. All right. Yep. All right. Okay. My doctors have been pushing statins for my APOB 38:34 Speaker 2: problem. 38:35 Speaker 2: I decided not to take their pills and have been exploring other means of protecting 38:40 Speaker 2: my endothelial 38:42 Speaker 2: health. 38:43 Speaker 2: Would any peptides offer benefit? I've seen 38:47 Speaker 2: Cardigan, 38:48 Speaker 2: Vesigen, 38:48 Speaker 2: KPV, 38:50 Speaker 2: BPC, 38:51 Speaker 2: and TB, but unsure what their efficiency is, particularly for niche purposes, 38:56 Speaker 2: already on Retta. 38:58 Speaker 3: Interesting 1. Yeah. So I don't I don't have I do not have any personal experience with cardiogen or Vesugen, 39:05 Speaker 3: but, like, 39:06 Speaker 3: it is so cardiogen's a bioregulator. 39:09 Speaker 3: You can't go wrong with that. And I do think it it might help. It ain't gonna hurt. And, 39:16 Speaker 3: yes, the Vesuvgen, 39:18 Speaker 3: right, targets vascular tissue, which is a good thing, and that's what we want. We're looking for cardioprotective 39:24 Speaker 3: and 39:25 Speaker 3: good blood flow to 39:27 Speaker 3: your heart, right? 39:28 Speaker 3: It 39:31 Speaker 3: has like, it's been used in Eastern Europe and there's a whole lot of, there is a lot of research in 39:36 Speaker 3: Eastern Europe. So I haven't used either of those, but I think you're on the right track there. 39:41 Speaker 3: BPC, 39:42 Speaker 3: absolutely. 39:43 Speaker 3: That is 1 we know, whether it's like angiogenesis, 39:46 Speaker 3: right? That will really help. The KPV 39:48 Speaker 3: is more of an anti 39:50 Speaker 3: inflammation, 39:52 Speaker 3: but it's so indirectly that can be, 39:55 Speaker 3: that can help a little bit. 39:59 Speaker 3: Reta is good. 40:01 Speaker 3: It has some cardio protective 40:04 Speaker 3: data along with it. So I 40:06 Speaker 3: I I think that that's also great. I think your biggest thing, dude, I think you're right to kind of not wanna take the statins 40:12 Speaker 3: and do everything you can naturally 40:15 Speaker 3: to avoid that. 40:16 Speaker 3: So what I just said, but for sure, like no refined carbs, right? 40:22 Speaker 3: Eat no seed oils, 40:24 Speaker 3: really clean up your diet. That just needs to, like, that's 40:28 Speaker 3: the biggest thing there. That's 40:31 Speaker 3: down, 40:32 Speaker 3: that's where I would start. Those other twos are nice adjunct treatment that will 40:37 Speaker 3: help, 40:38 Speaker 3: but 1 it has to start with your diet. 40:40 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that base. I wish you would have told us what your diet was because that's definitely huge. It's huge on the statins. I'm sure by now most people know my thing. I don't think anybody should take a statin, so good job on that. The Retta will improve the cardiovascular outcome because it's going to bring down your weight. 40:54 Speaker 2: So I think you're on the right path. 40:56 Speaker 2: KPV, the BPC-3.0332.0332.0332.0 41:00 Speaker 2: and you can kind of get the benefits from all of them. 41:03 Speaker 2: We'll really nailed it. I think we're both in agreement, dude. Diet. 41:07 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you fasting, does he say it? Fasting 41:11 Speaker 2: is going be huge for you. 41:12 Speaker 2: It just really will. 41:14 Speaker 2: I don't know your age, but I'm assuming you're up there. And especially for men, 41:19 Speaker 2: it's a little bit different. Fasting for women and men is definitely a little bit different, but for men, man, the benefits are off the freaking charts. I mean, literally, if you just slow down and just think logically. 41:31 Speaker 0: Hey, Detroit. 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Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration. Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. 42:29 Speaker 2: It's been around forever. 42:32 Speaker 2: Why? Because it freaking works. 42:34 Speaker 2: That's why. 42:35 Speaker 2: And every 42:37 Speaker 2: like, it doesn't matter where you're from, fasting is done there. So that should answer a lot of it for people. 42:44 Speaker 2: So I would try to do that at least a few days a week and see how you feel. 42:49 Speaker 2: Again, 42:51 Speaker 2: 16 hours, when you get to a 16 hour, which is nothing once you start doing it, it really isn't, especially if you're working, like you don't, at least you're working, you don't think about it. But 16 hours is when autophagy starts, and autophagy is when dead cells die off and then brand new ones take their place. So if you could do a 72 hour fast 43:08 Speaker 2: every 0.25 and 43:10 Speaker 2: then maybe Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, do like longer fast, start slow, like just take out breakfast and 43:17 Speaker 2: that means no cream in your coffee. 43:20 Speaker 2: It's just black coffee, but from 12 to 8, 3 days a week, 43:24 Speaker 2: And that's your window. The rest of the time you're fasting. And I know that sounds hard for people, but it really is not that. Actually, was when I started at 12:00. It seemed like it was like so far away, but, 43:34 Speaker 2: not only that, the discipline 43:36 Speaker 2: that comes along with that, 43:39 Speaker 2: there's something about it to me that's just, 43:42 Speaker 2: spiritual. Like taking 43:44 Speaker 2: God out of it. Like I 43:46 Speaker 2: personally 43:47 Speaker 2: learned years and years ago, about 10 years ago when I started fasting that like when I'm faced with something hard, which you are, 43:54 Speaker 2: I meet it with hard. And so what I do is I do a 72 hour fast. And a 43:59 Speaker 2: 72 hour fast when your mind is not in it is a bitch. It just really is, but like meet hard with hard. And again, it's something spiritual about it too, 44:08 Speaker 2: the discipline that comes from it and 44:12 Speaker 2: try it. I think that and the diet, Will said, I think those 2 are going to supersede any peptide at this point. Nice. 44:19 Speaker 3: All right, next 1. So I have a friend that was in a motorcycle accident about 3 years ago, damaged his ankle pretty bad, 44:27 Speaker 3: Has had numerous surgeries and has now been a few years since the last 1. That has left him a lot of scar tissue, ligament, and nerve damage. I know the nerves are more are most likely just to take time, but will Warbarin blend 44:40 Speaker 3: help at this point with the residual scar tissue and ligament damage, 44:43 Speaker 3: or has it just been too long? I know it helps tremendously with new injuries, but haven't heard, you cover anything regarding really old injuries. Thanks for all you do. Your podcast has been a tremendous blessing and a journey 44:56 Speaker 3: to my journey, and I'm hoping to pass some benefits on to those important in my life. Right on, dude. So absolutely, 45:03 Speaker 3: I think the 1 of the huge benefits of peptides 45:06 Speaker 3: is their ability to kind of wake up 45:10 Speaker 3: old chronic issues, 45:12 Speaker 3: injuries from, 45:14 Speaker 3: yes, from their sleep state and they've decided to not stop healing, right? Peptides absolutely can make a difference. 45:22 Speaker 3: TB-five 45:23 Speaker 3: hundred, for sure. I would would do I mean, the Wolverine blend, yes. TB-five hundred is like notorious for really helping to kickstart 45:32 Speaker 3: old chronic injuries or dormant injuries that have decided to just give up on the healing process. 45:39 Speaker 3: Wake up, And I would absolutely like do the injections right in that ankle, you know, maybe a triangle around the main 45:47 Speaker 3: traumatic injury portion. You do it. Your mom did it like that. 45:51 Speaker 3: Yeah. Ship clip. Yeah. And this way, at least your ankle, you can you can you can grab your own skin. Right? But you can just go you know, you could just put it right underneath the skin and sub q or or intramuscular 46:03 Speaker 3: or actually intratendon. 46:05 Speaker 3: I've I've I've inject, like, in my tendon. It's kind of a weird feeling, and I would use a brand new needle, but I've done it. Yeah. I've done it. So 46:13 Speaker 3: GHKCU 46:14 Speaker 3: is arguably 46:15 Speaker 3: the best thing for a waking up nerves and healing 46:20 Speaker 3: nerve damage. 46:22 Speaker 3: So for myself, like, I had a sports hernia, 46:26 Speaker 3: and that's not an actual hernia. Although, I had surgery for the hernia. They woke me up on after the surgery and said, well, we didn't find a hernia, but we still, like, line both the sides of your Fixed stomach elbow, though. With metal mesh. And I'm like, alright. Good. Yeah. I guess Did I ask when somebody stabs me in the stomach. They hopefully, their knife bounces off the metal mesh. But, yeah, it still hurt in the same place. So what I have is a sports hernia is essentially like 1 of the tendons coming up from my groin that was attached to my pelvis bone. 46:56 Speaker 3: 1 of them was partially torn off, 46:59 Speaker 3: and that literally hurt me for 10 years. 47:01 Speaker 3: I couldn't sprint. Like, there was no running as fast as I can, rolling over at night in bed, like, I had to lift this leg up. 47:09 Speaker 3: It hurt me all the time. And to the point where it was like, dude, I had I had tried so many different things, like the myofascial release with the metal 47:19 Speaker 3: rod, that's miserable. But 47:22 Speaker 3: then all of sudden, so 10 years that hurt me and I 47:25 Speaker 3: did a round of, honestly, like 8 weeks of TB-five 47:29 Speaker 3: hundred, 47:30 Speaker 3: mostly TB-five hundred to be honest. There was 47:33 Speaker 3: a little bit of BPC in the beginning and the end. This was early on in my journey that coupled with a lot of mobility, 47:40 Speaker 3: like joint mobility. 47:41 Speaker 3: So in my hips especially, 47:43 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, 8 weeks later, I kind of woke up 1 day. I'm like, dude, this is like, there's 47:48 Speaker 3: literally no pain there. And it's been gone ever since. It's 47:52 Speaker 3: the most actually like really 47:55 Speaker 3: blew my damn mind. So that 47:57 Speaker 3: was a dormant chronic injury that had given up on healing. And I went to Beverly Hills surgeons and their best thing was to, we'll just clip the nerve so 48:07 Speaker 3: you can't feel that. Right? 48:10 Speaker 3: But it gets a little close to the private parts and 48:14 Speaker 3: that is no thank you. So, 48:18 Speaker 2: yeah, I would do that. That's what I would do. Yeah. What I think- That's great, man. I like him. I think everybody has a BPC or a TB story. Everybody has 1 story like that. I remember I had this, I think it was my left. I don't even know which 1 it is now because I couldn't lift my shoulder up forever, like literally every years, years. And then, 48:35 Speaker 2: when we had, got to do Wolverine in, 48:37 Speaker 2: we at 1st were like thinking that there was they together, they weren't Yeah. Yeah. We talked about it, blah blah blah. So I didn't have 48:44 Speaker 2: that much hope in it because, know, we had talked about it a little bit, but I'm like, let me try it. And, 48:51 Speaker 2: 3 days in the shoulder and I'm not even kidding you. Was like, holy shit. Like, woah, dude, I have not lifted my shoulder. 48:58 Speaker 2: My arm above my shoulder. And so freaking loud, I was blown away by it, literally blown away by it. So 49:05 Speaker 2: the answer is yes. Nerves take a long time to do though. Had almost had drop foot to the degree where I was, they thought I was going to like lose mobility in my ankle and my foot. 49:15 Speaker 2: And, for my surgery, 49:18 Speaker 2: it took forever for that thing to get back. But, I think you need to tell your friend to get moving, do not stay like just chilling, 49:26 Speaker 2: get moving, walk on it, like try to run on it and just get blood flowing through that. The 49:30 Speaker 2: body has a rad way to heal itself and sometimes it hurts, but 49:34 Speaker 2: move, 49:35 Speaker 3: get blood flowing. Yep. That and the teeth and the Wolverine is going to do you wonders, man. Yeah. And kind of the worst thing a person can do, if you weren't trying to heal something is like is like to do nothing. Yeah. Right? Like, you need it, for example, if it's an ankle, right, to just straight immobilize it and not let it move, it heal, 49:52 Speaker 3: but very slowly and heal, not very mobile. Right? Yeah. It needs to be moved. Right? Yeah. It needs blood. Right? Blood is our well, course it hurts. Blood. Like It needs blood, but it you can't, we don't want you moving it so so much, so fast where you get this spike 50:07 Speaker 3: of pain. Right? We're kind of looking for this dull pain. That's a good sign. Right? 50:13 Speaker 3: God made us with pain for a reason. If it's fucking really sharp pain, that means stop. 50:18 Speaker 3: Right? The dull pain is okay. That's good for it. It's bringing blood in there. It's gonna heal. But, 50:25 Speaker 3: yeah, harsh pain, just don't do it. Alrighty, you're up. I'm up. 50:30 Speaker 2: Alright. Let's see here. 50:32 Speaker 2: I hope this isn't redundant. I've heard you guys talk before about combining peptides into 1 syringe 50:38 Speaker 2: file to pin just rather than multiple times. My question is besides Retatrutide, 50:44 Speaker 2: are there any others that you wouldn't combine? 50:47 Speaker 2: Could I combine NAD, 5Amino, 50:49 Speaker 2: AOD? 50:50 Speaker 2: Obviously NAD wouldn't be every day, but on days I do, I'd rather add it if possible rather than another stick. I've read and heard some have issues with the AOD gelling, 51:01 Speaker 2: so is it that? 51:03 Speaker 2: Is it the no doke to combine 51:07 Speaker 2: the list? 51:08 Speaker 2: I've read some reconstitute 51:10 Speaker 2: it with regular backwater and some with acetate, 51:13 Speaker 2: and some have said 0.5 and 0.5. Mhmm. So much conflicting information. Just wondering if you could please clarify that 1 so I don't waste it. I love the podcast, and I've learned so much. I truly appreciate all your helpful information you guys give. Thanks so much, Miranda. 51:29 Speaker 3: Yep. So this 1 comes up, yeah, a lot. Okay. So Miranda, here's the thing. I just, I don't have a 51:34 Speaker 3: some, I don't have definitive answers for you, but 51:37 Speaker 3: you will notice if you do this enough and you try enough things. So I know that, like, HGH should be done just by itself. Okay? So should HCG. 51:46 Speaker 3: I would also do all the GLP ones just by themselves. Okay? Because I have 51:51 Speaker 3: done 51:52 Speaker 3: drawn some like HGH, right, and then 51:55 Speaker 3: draw something else. And I think maybe maybe 1 of the GHPs and you'll know, you'll see when it mixes, like just starts to turn white. 52:04 Speaker 3: If that happens, that's not those 2 cannot be mixed. 52:08 Speaker 3: I can't remember what it was with the HGH, but I would say like, hey, the HGH, keep it by itself. I know you maybe didn't ask about that, but, the Retas, GLP-1s, 52:17 Speaker 3: keep them by themselves. 52:19 Speaker 3: AOD is, 52:21 Speaker 3: AOD, keep it by itself and 52:23 Speaker 3: mix it with 52:25 Speaker 3: AOD water. Okay? And that is, that's something that I guess we have coined, but that is a premix 52:32 Speaker 3: mix of 52:33 Speaker 3: acetic acid and bacterial static water. Yeah. Okay? 52:37 Speaker 3: With some 52:39 Speaker 3: glycerol to help 52:41 Speaker 3: kill the sting of the acetic acid. So, no, you do not wanna mix the AOD with like 100% 52:46 Speaker 3: pure acetic acid. No. 52:49 Speaker 3: You should be able to, and we can if you want DM us, we can kinda tell you exactly where to buy this premixed correct mixture to mix your AOD with. Now that mixture, this AOD water 53:01 Speaker 3: should only be mixed with AOD and SLU-3. Like I can't, if you mix it with anything else, it will ruin Yeah, the other 53:08 Speaker 3: HGH frag. So that HGH frag was like basically AOD. So 53:14 Speaker 3: that means if you drew, 53:16 Speaker 3: if you drew the AOD up and then now you try to draw something else up that, and now it's got the AOD water in it, it will ruin the other 1. It'll make that gel up or look really weird. So, no. So AOD, 53:27 Speaker 3: hopefully 53:28 Speaker 3: that makes sense. Everything else to my knowledge right now, 53:33 Speaker 3: I haven't had any problems with. 53:36 Speaker 3: But if you mix, if you draw 1 thing and then you draw the next thing and it, like, dramatically changes color 53:42 Speaker 3: besides drawing an orange or blue GHK to you, 53:47 Speaker 3: count that as a learning lesson and maybe I've 53:50 Speaker 3: just injected it quickly. I'm like, oh shit, let's just do it fast before it like coagulates together. 53:55 Speaker 3: Not saying you should do that, 53:58 Speaker 3: but just maybe just don't do those again. Yeah. I think it's everybody's 54:01 Speaker 2: different. We've talked about it acknowledging even 54:05 Speaker 2: Paul's on and he kind of shifted 54:07 Speaker 2: his answer, I think, because we had posted something and we got attacked. I'm used to it. I don't think he is. And 54:13 Speaker 2: so, 54:14 Speaker 2: I mean, my answer is gonna be a little bit different because I've done it a lot and I don't think there's necessarily an actual right or wrong. It's why 54:21 Speaker 2: don't you try it? So I have, I've 54:24 Speaker 2: done the HGH separate. I never mixed the Retatrutide and I never would mix my ACG. Those are just ones I wanted to do separate because I wanted those to make sure those ones worked. And as time went on, I'm like, I'm tired and I'm in a hurry today. I just started eventually mixing them all and I never had a problem. So I'm not saying you should, I'm just saying I do. 54:43 Speaker 2: I have mixed them together even with the AOD because it's 1 of my favorite compounds 54:47 Speaker 2: and I just personally haven't had a problem with it. So Paul would 54:51 Speaker 2: disagree with me, will might too. 54:53 Speaker 2: I've done it and I don't have a problem with it. I'm not saying you should copy me or him, Just try them both maybe and see which 1 works for you. And if you don't think that you want to, then don't. It's not simple. I 55:03 Speaker 2: know because I've tried it. So it's 55:06 Speaker 2: really that simple. I don't think there is an actual right or wrong. If it bugs you, it's a little cloudy, which it doesn't for me, 55:13 Speaker 2: I'll do it. 55:14 Speaker 2: Don't do bug me about it. 55:17 Speaker 2: Me. Me. Oh, 55:18 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I am. Is it a Hello Warriors? Sure. Alright. Hello Warriors hot topic, endometriosis. 55:25 Speaker 3: What stat can you recommend? My OB GYN 55:29 Speaker 3: wants to put me on birth control for cramps and painful cycles. I'm 34, no kids. Hashimoto's, 55:35 Speaker 3: gluten free, no seed oil, grass fed food, semi high fat diet. 55:40 Speaker 3: I live 5 days a week and walk 5 to 8 miles a day. I know endo has a lot to do with inflammation, but curious if you haven't had anyone do peptides for this. Currently taking KPV, 55:51 Speaker 3: TA-1L-thirty 55:52 Speaker 3: 7, Reta for the Hashimoto's, 55:55 Speaker 3: much love. 55:57 Speaker 2: Yeah. So what an interesting question. This just came up. We just did podcasts on it. Did we? The endometriosis? 56:03 Speaker 2: Hashimoto's. 56:04 Speaker 3: Okay. 56:05 Speaker 3: Yes. Now here's the deal in the endometriosis. 56:08 Speaker 3: It's kind of a complex that I don't I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna kinda bow out like I am not 56:14 Speaker 3: prepared to give you an answer on that 1. I will. I'll ask Paul to see if he's got a specific protocol for that, 56:22 Speaker 3: but 56:23 Speaker 3: to take care of inflammation, KPV and TA-one, 56:26 Speaker 3: absolutely. 56:28 Speaker 2: Yeah. She's done the obviously, she's done some research because those are actually right. So Paul's thing, I I listened to our podcast over because I wanted to kinda get his protocol because he was talking and we dug deep into, auto immune, which we pretty much all have, 56:41 Speaker 2: or a lot of us do, which I do. And his 56:44 Speaker 2: thing was Thymalon and 56:46 Speaker 2: Thymosin Alpha-one together 56:48 Speaker 2: for generally 2 weeks. And then 56:51 Speaker 2: the tricky thing with the LL-thirty 7 is if you pull it into early, it can do a counteract 56:56 Speaker 2: and that's a little bit scary. So, 56:59 Speaker 2: and it's a very, very low dose. I wish I had my phone and I would tell you it's literally virtually nothing. 57:05 Speaker 2: And LL-thirty 7 and well knows if you take too much, it'll be You get a Herxmeyer 57:10 Speaker 3: reaction. 57:10 Speaker 3: Right? Herxheimer, excuse me. 57:13 Speaker 3: Because basically it is just, it is pulling all the toxins out of your bloodstream and then there's toxins 1st Go to your body. Kind of get unleashed into your body and you kind of perks out, right? His solution to that is add in some VIP right away to flush those immediately, 57:30 Speaker 3: and a low dose and a short run of VIP 57:32 Speaker 3: to take care of that. So it's 57:35 Speaker 2: the LL-thirty 7 extremely low dose for 57:38 Speaker 2: 40 days, 57:39 Speaker 2: and then he'll take the VIP 57:42 Speaker 2: to kind of sweep it out of your system. 57:44 Speaker 2: So I would definitely go back and listen to the podcast last week. I did personally yesterday because I wanted to write that down. I didn't know 57:51 Speaker 2: we were going to go through this question, but that's 57:54 Speaker 2: that. So, you know, and like for you 57:57 Speaker 2: kind of back to the basics again, you want to cut out sugar and seed oils and glucose, 58:02 Speaker 2: And I think that's going to help you as well. So, but read that. It'll help you with that. 58:07 Speaker 3: To answer your question, which was your endometriosis, 58:11 Speaker 3: I can ask Paul, see what he has. Okay. 58:15 Speaker 3: Cool. 58:16 Speaker 3: You're up. 58:17 Speaker 2: Alright. I'll take this home. Hello, or hey fellows, love the show and learn so much from you guys. I have a 16 year old dog, this is for you baby. Yeah. Dog that has really bad hips and I heard you guys say on an episode that you would give BBC-one hundred 57 to your dog to help. I have 10 mg Wolverine and would it be okay to give the blend to my dog? If so, 58:38 Speaker 2: what kind of dose would 58:39 Speaker 2: you do? Thanks Warriors. We've discussed having a episode for dogs. A 58:44 Speaker 2: lot of people have dogs and 58:47 Speaker 2: they love their dogs. They love their dogs. Rightfully so. 58:50 Speaker 3: Will has, gave your dog TB-five hundred, right? TB-five hundred and BPC. You gave both. Yeah. I would absolutely do it. I'd probably give them like a, you know, so your dog, depending on how, what size your dog is. Yeah. You know, these the dosages really are all based upon weight. 59:05 Speaker 3: Yeah. And so if I'm gonna tell a grown man to take 2 mg of both of those, 59:11 Speaker 3: probably a dog about 0.5 a milligram of each of them is is a good dose daily. 59:15 Speaker 3: You can't overdo it. So that's the thing. If you 59:19 Speaker 3: give him 10 mgs of each, that's 59:21 Speaker 3: okay. 59:23 Speaker 3: It actually probably would help a lot more too. So this one's on your budget. Like I'd give him as much as he possibly can and I would inject him right in both hips 59:31 Speaker 3: daily. Which doesn't help. Watch, well, watch watch the recovery. And I have a friend who's doing it right now. I have another, 59:39 Speaker 3: friend who's who's done it with their dog. And like most of this data is 59:43 Speaker 3: on canines, especially from TB-five hundred, by the way. So, yeah, give it to him. GHK-one. CU is another 1, but, like, good luck. If I give my dog GHK-one, 59:52 Speaker 3: he would bite my ass, 59:55 Speaker 3: because it probably stings like like hell. 59:58 Speaker 3: And my dog was hard to 1:00:00 Speaker 3: fucking knew. Like, he would be asleep and he gets sense to me just like 1:00:05 Speaker 3: creeping up. And he's like, wake up. I'm like, the fuck? 1:00:08 Speaker 3: Stay right there. Not like getting messed up. Don't come close. Yeah. So I would still, it was a struggle, though. I mean, once it took me, like, 2.5 hours to pull out all these 1:00:16 Speaker 3: cactus barbs with a with within some needle nose pliers out of his paws. Jeez. Because whether he, you know, he's got them sticking out of his face and he ran through the back bay at night chasing a rabbit just full speed through there. Just running through cactuses and and Jeez. No hurt. 1:00:33 Speaker 3: Yeah. Poor guy. You lost for you. Yeah. Was No. He did not care, though. Like, dude, if there was something I envy about that dog, like, learning lesson is like, goddamn, I wish I had the passion 1:00:44 Speaker 3: for anything. 1:00:46 Speaker 3: No holds barred, I don't care, 1:00:48 Speaker 2: nothing is stopping me from my goal. Dude, we used to have a meeting on my house on Wednesday during COVID and we'd have a bunch of guys come over and Will would put his dog out in my backyard. And this 1 time, 1:01:00 Speaker 2: we just had the meeting about an hour and we go in the backyard and he had killed 3 possums and laid them right next to each other, of was sitting there kind of like all proud. 1:01:11 Speaker 2: And I was like, how the hell did that happen? Because every time look at him, he's sitting there. But we never heard like a squeal or nothing. He laid them all out as if like he was doing, see? Yeah, I got it. And we were like, dude, that was crazy. We had possums back then? Yeah, yeah, what the hell? I remember listening to me a picture of that. Yeah. Like, 1:01:27 Speaker 3: look what she was doing while we were it was only an hour. Yeah. Yeah. Had cats inside. He would sit there and just stare at my cat. Yes. Or my wife said I had cats. Yeah. But that's He would just they're like, oh, boy. I want you. I wanna eat. 1:01:40 Speaker 2: Well, that is the show guys. We are make sure you join us on school. We got big things coming for that. We've been pretty busy, but it's 1 of the things we're getting away to kinda get things in line and talk about that a little bit. And, 1:01:52 Speaker 2: and Friday before 1:01:54 Speaker 2: we bounce, we are going to record and we don't know which 1 yet, 1:01:59 Speaker 2: but we'll record on Friday, drop it on Monday. 1:02:02 Speaker 2: So it'll be good. For sure. Yeah. Good stuff. 1:02:05 Speaker 2: I'll try to some news. Heard this, what day will you hear this? Thursday. I guess we might have some, some DMS or whatnot. If you hear this prior and you have some ideas or some 1:02:15 Speaker 2: suggestions, 1:02:16 Speaker 2: we haven't done it recently. Let's do it. Cool. 1:02:20 Speaker 2: All right, guys. We'll catch you next time. Later.