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1:19Speaker 3up with Q and A Day? Q and A Day. This is the I don't know. This is my favorite 1. Other people's favorite too.
1:27Speaker 3When we have a guest, I always like having talking to people and hearing their similar point of view, especially if they're really interesting.
1:40Speaker 2show favorite. He's coming into town to get some dinner with us. We said, well, let's do a podcast because it's always fun to talk with our buddy. So we'll be recording that on
1:50Speaker 2Monday or Thursday. It'll be coming out on Monday. So we're gonna all think through a cool
1:56Speaker 2podcast episode that we can do something cool. Let us have some time, but that'll be fun. Really love Paul. I call him a Jedi. Postmates. And we want to do something that will really utilize his skill set.
2:08Speaker 3Know, something that he is. So there's and there's a lot. He's got a huge skill set. He knows a lot about everything.
2:18Speaker 3yeah, dude, that's exciting. But after the week, I just got back from South Carolina from a wedding,
2:31Speaker 3It was raining the whole time, but the poor bride is like, you know, between Was it outside? Between the vent, it was outside. It did not rain during the weddings. That was cool. So But like, every between events, like the whole plan was to, Oh, we'll just girls will just chill by the pool, go to the beach.
2:47Speaker 3And there was really none of that. Luckily, it was humid though. So there was a time where we went to set the pool, sun's out, and then it starts raining on us and run inside.
3:18Speaker 3The the venue of the wedding was gorgeous. It was a golf it was a golf course in just classic South Carolina. It was like all the trees with the moss hanging down everywhere. Right. It was gorgeous. It was hot.
3:37Speaker 3good stay, I guess. The hotel, they have, of course, lots of complaints. Like, well, I took a red eye, and I flew 1st class on the way there so we could Brutal. Sleep. Yeah. Right? And that was amazing. I don't ever I've never paid for a 1st class ticket. They are so expensive.
4:00Speaker 3I missed my flight spring break to go to Hawaii, which was gonna be a connector flight. Yeah.
4:05Speaker 3So I missed it. I remember I was like just I was hungover. I was like sitting to Burger King. The lady told me, she's like, you're you missed the flight and this spring break, there's no other flights. You everything is booked. And I'm just sitting there like,
4:18Speaker 3my whole family's like meeting you there, and then she like looks over at me, just come here.
4:23Speaker 3Walk over, I'm like, yes. She's like, your lucky day. I got you on a flight. And it is straight shot to Hawaii in 1st class.
4:34Speaker 2Well, shows you Jesus. That shows you why it's good to be cool to people and not a dick because that people would pissed like it would be their fault even though it was your fault. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. You know? And then you would have not been on 1st class. You're right. Absolutely. Right. You got that. Yes. And I am chill. And I knew I mean, yes. I definitely walked up to her. Was like, fuck. I screwed up. Yeah. I'm here. But anyway, then we flew home,
4:56Speaker 3And, oh my god, I don't know if I can ever fly not 1st class again. I'm just, like, big. So I'm like 6 4, you know. I try to sit in the aisle because so I want the aisle so I can stretch my leg out, but that actually doesn't help because
5:11Speaker 3And so and everybody walking through, they just crush your knee or your foot or your elbow.
5:25Speaker 3I literally won't have it. Like, I just because my knees already touch the back of the chair. When I sit down, I just prop this knee up.
5:36Speaker 3And they look back. And then then if they do look back, I'm like, what do mean do? Look at me, dude.
5:42Speaker 3Fuck off. Sit up straight. And same way as I will not recline my seat on any person who's a big human being. If it's a little kid or like a small girl behind me,
5:56Speaker 2I hate it when people do that. Let me clear the scene. I don't know. Flying just sucks. Especially flying to the East Coast, dude, it's a long flight. Hawaii sucks too because it's a long flight, but man, try that with a 2 and a 4 year old.
6:11Speaker 2supposed to be good luck if it rains on your way. That's what you said. Somebody fell in. 1 of my best friends, we flew out to Tennessee and
6:28Speaker 3there hustling through it. I was just like, this freaking sucks, dude. Yeah. It was horrible. Soaking wet. That's alright. We and then they have some crazy bars there. So we went 1 night. It's like the whole waterfront, so giant boardwalk and probably 8 bars just right next to each other. 0.5 of them are are and basically everything is all kind of outdoors. So everything has a roof Yeah. But no real walls and windows. Yeah. Okay? Just let it All by the water. All humid and you don't and it does rain, so you need the roof. But,
6:57Speaker 3you know, 0.5 the bars are inside, outside. You can go to each 1 of them. So the 1 that we went to is called the Dead Dog Tavern. Dead Dog Tavern. And it's every single wall is just packed full of everybody framed pictures of people's
7:15Speaker 3it's like a tribute to everybody. To everybody? Yeah. No, they weren't accepting any new entries. Everybody was A pretty couple of people from our party like printed out pictures to bring there. Oh my God. But they weren't taking new entries, but just everywhere. So it's kind of, I mean, you know, it's like, I don't know if that's creepy, but I figure it's better to remember them. People love their dogs, man. People do love them. But it was kind of cool to sit there and You're either a dog person or not a dog person. Yeah. Like
7:41Speaker 3Or a big dog person or not a not a big dog person. There's some people yeah. There's some people like, There's
7:55Speaker 2My thing is I'm not a big dog person. I'm not a big animal person. I just don't like hair on me and shit. Dude, when people love their dogs, I get it. My dad's like that. Loves his dog. But when they're walking their dog, they think you love their dog as much as they love their dog. And like, I don't want your dog jumping on me. So like, you're like, dude. You do it. Go look your legs. It's cool, but it's like, no,
8:20Speaker 3I know. I remember having somebody walking my dog. I'm like, hey, keep him over. Everybody wants the dog. Okay? Like, yeah. But I mean, even like when Ali would be walking the dog or somebody else is walking my dog and just let him because he wants to go say hi to everybody, but not everybody wants his giant dog come just right up on him and sniff him. I'm like, hey, don't let Yeah. Him do
8:50Speaker 3The craziest thing that women who had little babies would always come up to me and be like, oh, he's so beautiful. Take the baby. Put him right in his face. Holy shit. Wow. And I was like, lady. I mean, he's really nice. Like, he would and and he was especially great with with children, women, and, like, puppies. So a lot of dogs aren't good with puppies and therefore and kids because they're like, fuck you. You pull my tail. Yeah. But Oscar was was always, like, perfect. They're lucky, but it was crazy. I'm like, what are you doing sticking your baby's face in this giant dog's face?
9:28Speaker 3So, yeah, I don't know. I'm back. It feels good to be back. It feels really good to be back. Oh, man. It does. And it I always like coming home. We're doing, we're
9:37Speaker 2doing for my birthday going out to Cabo. We We learned from the last trip because we went to, we're a big Cabo. It's 2 hours. You got to go to customs and that part sucks. It kind of depends on when you get there. It's either really bad or you fly right through, but we
9:51Speaker 2But man, we went on, went for Christmas and we always get out of Dodge on Christmas because we do Christmas somewhere. And a
9:59Speaker 24, I don't know what my kids were at the time, but pretty close to what they are now, but let's say 4 and 2 and 2, this was chaos all week. So we're doing, I think 5 days, so we're going to cut it 2 days short,
10:10Speaker 2but they got a kid's club and stuff like that. My son loves that stuff. My wife and I can lay by a pool for at least a couple hours before they want us to get
10:19Speaker 3They can have a conversation with my wife. Yeah. I forgot what that feels like. Yeah. I bet. It's, I mean, it's in it's nonstop. It's on the Christmas boat this year, Ali and I were basically taking care of Jacks
10:30Speaker 3because Alyssa's chasing them 2 kids up and down the dangerous stairs. Like and, like, yeah, he won't let you leave you alone.
10:37Speaker 2He's really smart, Jack's but Jack's he's asking you questions. He's smart. And, look at this. Look at that. What's that made of? He's super smart. That's that's funny though, like, because we got Jax who was at we thought it was a firecracker and t mason dude just came out of nowhere, dude. He was screaming the whole freaking morning, and my wife looked at me and she goes,
10:59Speaker 2I love you. I don't even know how you do it. I'm like, I gotta go to work. Get me out of here.
11:04Speaker 2That's their bill for it, man. They're billed for it. At least my bride. Not every woman is, but she does it well. But even Sarah told me today, Alyssa's gonna laugh at this. She called Sarah after they left. She's like, yeah, I'm pretty done with kids. It's 81. Nice. Yeah,
11:20Speaker 3Well, it's, you know, River is now like, we're talking about going to dinner with Paul.
11:25Speaker 3River is of the age now where we can say, hey, we're gonna go to dinner and you're just gonna stay home. We'll be quick. Like, we'll be quick. We try to, like, keep it less than 2 hours. Yeah. Right? We also have cameras everywhere and can talk to him through the cameras. What are you doing? Yeah. I see you walking over there, like, don't you dare leave. Okay?
11:43Speaker 3that's nice. Hell, yeah. Right? Right? You get to that point where like, okay. She's like, what if he falls in the pool? Like, if he's 10 years old and he drowns, he I'm sorry he deserves to drown because, like, he's then he's a dumbass and it's like, survive. We're gonna make our genetic line better. But he is not going to drown in the pool. He knows how to swim. There's floaties. He knows did not he knows what a pool is. Yeah. We don't I don't think we should worry about that. River, he's a good deal. Yeah.
12:31Speaker 3What's up, big dogs? I appreciate the information provided. It's been life changing. I'm a 32 year old male, five'seven, 2 30.
12:54Speaker 3My doctor said this is normal and should improve with weight loss, which makes sense. Not sure of other hormone markers, but I'm currently running Retam plus MOTS-3C and I'm entering the idea of hopping on or I'm entertaining the idea of hopping on TRT.
13:07Speaker 3I'm in the gym 5 days a week. I'm determined to get in the best shape of my life. Right. I have 3 kids, and I'm good with that.
13:17Speaker 3What else should I stack? I got both my parents on the Wolverine stat plus NAD plus Reta since I stumbled across your content and it's made a huge positive impact on their daily lives in
13:45Speaker 2I generally was working with men over 40, but as the channel got bigger, I started to work with, you know, younger guys started to trickle in and I was blown away,
13:55Speaker 2when I like, they would say, dude, I'm exhausted. And then I'm like, I always remember thinking going, man, you're 28. There's no way you have low testosterone. Right? You pull a few blood works at 28, you realize they do.
14:07Speaker 3You're like, damn bro. Yeah. Jeez. Yes. It's crazy. It's crazy. Why? Who knows? I mean, there's a whole bunch of reasons why maybe. But
14:16Speaker 3so for you, like, good for you getting on your parents on the Wolverine stack and NAD,
14:23Speaker 312 pounds in the in, you know, just starting. Like, that's good. That's a good healthy way to lose. We don't wanna lose 50 pounds in a week.
14:30Speaker 3TRT, dude, so 3 69. Yeah. K, your doctor's right. You're in range. Right? Because I think range,
14:37Speaker 3is like 300 to 1000. But the reality is you are living basically as like a 60 year old man.
14:53Speaker 3So you are 32 years old, so that sucks. And no wonder it is hard to lose weight, and no wonder you're,
15:04Speaker 3this will make whole bunch make it a whole bunch easier if you can start the test. I would absolutely do it. It looks like you already got your blood work.
15:11Speaker 3Get a full hormone panel though. I guess you said you weren't sure about the other hormonal markers. Right. Make sure that your doc didn't just like, hey, we'll give you just a total total testosterone score. Lot do. Lot do. And they'll blow it like, you get 1 blood test a year. Our friend did that. You get 1 blood test a year, otherwise they're $800 and the doc came back and tested it for total testosterone,
15:39Speaker 3checking all the other panels, but he decided not to do that, and then now you're screwed. So
15:44Speaker 3get a good starting panel and then I I I mean, hell, I do do tests and so therefore I would do this in your situation.
16:11Speaker 3It will run synergistically with Retta. It'll burn belly fat. And your growth hormone is probably low because your testosterone is low, so that is going to stimulate your natural growth hormone. So
16:32Speaker 21 thing is the testosterone. I mean, that's going to literally change your life. Now you would have different opinions than probably ours and that's fine,
16:40Speaker 2But, I mean, we've just dealt with countless men who have low testosterone and you're gonna have people bitching about the fact that we're saying this because you're 32.
16:50Speaker 2you have a lot of body fat, it will bring down your test levels. Let's just call it what it is. So, you know, you can say, well, I can see if when I lose weight, my test levels are going go up. It ain't like your good test levels are going to go up to like 900 where generally I like to stay, get 900 to 1000 even.
17:19Speaker 2I mean, we could go on and on. You got to know these numbers and you got to know, you got to get with a doctor that knows
17:33Speaker 2because this is a big piece of the puzzle, you know, like you're losing weight, rad, you're on the journey. You're still going to have a hard time
17:41Speaker 2losing weight and getting in the shape that you want if your testosterone low, dude. Like testosterone
17:54Speaker 2so, yeah, I figured you were gonna say, we didn't talk about this before, but I figured you were gonna say, yeah, but yeah, I think you should get on testosterone. Here's the thing, a lot of people think it's a life sentence, it's not. You're 32. Let's say you drop a bunch of weight, you get ripped and you want to come out of testosterone. Everybody thinks you can't. You absolutely
18:13Speaker 2post cycle therapy. You got to come off with like HCG, a lot of different few things that'll like reignite,
18:44Speaker 2it's going to kind of keep your body thinking it's working out. You might sweat a little more, but that's a good thing. So get
18:49Speaker 2on the test, dude. Just try it, man. Run it for 6 months and then you can just reevaluate
18:58Speaker 3you'd still get better. It's just gonna be a slower Yep. And find a doctor like you said, right? Like, hey, find a doctor who is versed in
19:13Speaker 3most of these HMO doctors, so like Kaiser or these big hospitals, unfortunately, they're
19:19Speaker 3bound by the rules, the governing rules of where they work. So they probably won't be able to prescribe you testosterone, but a lot of private physicians who have their license,
19:34Speaker 3just test scores. So there are doctors that specialize in this and I would go find them. And you start low and hell no, it's not distance. Like hell, we have a friend who's a pro bodybuilder, he's retired now, but mean, he's won the
19:58Speaker 3harder to get his testosterone up, but he's been off test for a whole year. He's a little skinnier, right?
20:05Speaker 3he said the doctors got his, like, got viable sperm from him. And He said right away. And yeah, he's like, 1st thing I did was to go run to go and do some tests. But he's been off for a year and he's been shit,
20:22Speaker 2Yep. No problem. I don't know where that came from, man. Of course you can come off. Of course you can. Yeah. So- Just do it the right way. Right. You gotta do the right I mean, you just stop
20:37Speaker 2You have to do it with the proper protocol. Yeah. So please, if you do come off, you can. Just do it properly. Just do not abruptly stop. And obviously, the longer that you're on it,
20:48Speaker 3the worse that it's gonna be to get off and the higher the dose that you're on it. Right? There's a huge difference. If you're doing 500 mgs a week for for 10 years,
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21:50Speaker 2Yeah. Alrighty. Here it is. You're up. Alright. So see. Hey man, I have been listening to your podcast for weeks. I'm loving the content. Long story short, my wife
22:11Speaker 2I've been thinking about having her start a Wolverine stack or maybe CLO or GLO blend.
22:17Speaker 2Do you think this will help either open incision healing also once the incision is closed? I was wondering if
22:31Speaker 2And I wonder what happened with that. I'd ask a surgeon like, What's going on, man? Something weird. Definitely talk to him about that. So you want to get his opinion on that. That's kind of odd. I've never really heard of that happening. But yes, I would definitely suggest the Wolverine.
22:44Speaker 2I would leave the other ones out for now because you could take a lot. We've talked about it, but you can take a lot of it and it will expedite the healing substantially. And then you can add in some GHK-
22:55Speaker 2You can kind of do it separate. And to answer your final question, would the serum help? Absolutely. I would absolutely rub it on that.
23:15Speaker 3along with along the lines with JD, I'd I'd be going with the BPC TB blend. Right? Leave out the the no glow, no clow for now because
23:25Speaker 3so in a perfect world, what I would do is a milligram of BPC, a milligram of of TB, and a milligram of KPV
23:36Speaker 33 weeks and like a triangle kind of around that spot, honestly. Right? Maybe like an inch or 2 around it. Don't put it in an open wound. Right? I would go heavy. I'd go real aggressive with all 3 of those.
23:49Speaker 3Then I would only use the serum once that wound is closed. Yeah. So I don't want you to the serum in the open wound. Yes,
23:55Speaker 3I have done that with tattoos. It's not the same though. It's not like a really deep open wound. It's like barely
24:01Speaker 3a skin abrasion, so I do put the serum on like a fresh tattoo, but I wouldn't put it in the open wound right now. That could cause some type of infection.
24:22Speaker 3The reason you don't want to do the Glow or the Clo is because I want you to get high doses of TB BPC,
24:31Speaker 3with GHKCu inside of that because the ratio is so much bigger. So you can't give yourself that much GHKCu,
24:45Speaker 3Ba bam. Alright. Hey, you guys are great. Look forward to every episode. I'm a 57 year old male taking 40
24:51Speaker 3units of tests a week, split in 2 doses. Started started Retta and it's working great. Up to 1.75
25:07Speaker 3I'm 50 pounds heavy and working on that. Eat pretty good. Scratch kitchen at home, and meal prep. I do, to eat once a week plus or minus, and that's my cheat.
25:16Speaker 3Don't count calories in, have a hard time getting over 200 grams of protein a day, just
25:24Speaker 3Mostly meat diet. I'm allergic to BPC-one hundred 57. I broke out in a horrible rash. I'm currently using GHK-
26:00Speaker 2my diet's okay. You know, you want to always like really like focus on that. I mean, you got some weight to lose, so you're going to let the Red to do what it needs to do. Right? That's the most important thing. You lost 20 pounds in 2 months. That's awesome. That is a good weight to run and just go slow, man. Just understand that this is not eating, gain it all overnight. So you need to give your time to kind of run this and just keep your diet consistent.
26:33Speaker 2I'm sure everybody knows at this point, I'm going to add in some fasting because I think that has huge, huge, huge, huge, huge benefits,
26:48Speaker 2cream in your coffee. This means no, just cut out breakfast for a while, maybe Monday through Friday and just do 2 meals.
27:02Speaker 2would do you good if you keep your diet in line. And when it comes to not getting enough protein, listen, I fast a lot. So it's 1 of my problems. You supplement with a good protein shake,
27:17Speaker 2I like Noble. I've been using Noble. My wife found that and it's been great. It's everything in there's clean.
27:27Speaker 2but they're expensive because they're good and the product is good. So you can always do that, but, you know, instead of always adding more stuff,
27:36Speaker 2I think that if we get back to the basics and let the Breda do what it does and just go that route and be consistent,
27:46Speaker 2keep your diet in line and cut out the sugar and added some fasting. I think you're gonna be golden man. I mean, your HGH is good. You can maybe go to 2 IUs, but 1 of the things is I saw this, you're doing the NAD
28:30Speaker 2products, more products, and just really kind of getting that base set because we want to reset the way that you live more than anything
28:38Speaker 2because there will be a day when you want to probably take out the Retta, right? And you want to have that base very strong.
28:46Speaker 3I think so based, let me, I just want to make sure that I'm understanding numbers. So you're taking 40
28:52Speaker 3of tests a week split into 2 doses. So that is a total. So that means you're taking By 200 days. 0.2 of a mil. So that's your that works out to be about 80 mg total a week.
29:17Speaker 3That would mean 50 units is 100 mg, and you're taking 40. Right? So we're at 80 mg. And then you divide that by 2. Yeah. No. I think you just just
29:37Speaker 3that is I would bump it up, dude, at 300 pounds. I think you need a little bit more tests to support your muscle, right, to keep you I eating that muscle on
30:04Speaker 3maybe 200 mg of tests weekly, split into 2 doses like you're doing. Reta seems to be working. Good for you. That's awesome.
30:11Speaker 3If every 5 days works for you, that's great. I'm glad to hear that it's not every 7 days. If you want to do more often, more frequently, we often, you know, propose that people do it a bit more frequently. And also 1.75
30:25Speaker 3every 5 days is very low. Good for you. And if you've experienced a lot of weight loss from that,
30:31Speaker 3then awesome. Just you will build a little tolerance. So don't feel bad about bumping that up slightly as you go. Okay?
30:52Speaker 3otherwise but it can't hurt you. Yeah. But I don't really know the exact goal on that 1. GHK-one is good for your skin.
31:01Speaker 2But if our goal is to lose weight, there's a better product. The goal is to lose weight and add those in later. Absolutely. So I don't think that those are really the good
31:12Speaker 3And I like the 35 units. My guessing is that's 35 mg. Yeah. That's about what I'm taking. I'm taking actually, I'm taking 50 mg
31:19Speaker 33 days a week. No. Sometimes every day. And I notice a difference, dude. I seriously, I notice a difference in my skin. Like, it looks smoother and
31:32Speaker 3Don't count calories. Don't count calories. Good for you. What you wanna do? If you're gonna count something, you need to count your macronutrients,
31:44Speaker 3they are all both calories. If we're just counting calories, then that means you just gotta make sure you eat lower amount of Twinkies all day long and that's all you eat. Like, that's not gonna lead you in a good place. Right? Because
31:57Speaker 3means protein, carbs, fat. Those are the things that we should be counting. Yeah. And you have it right, like protein, protein, protein. I know that's tough, but with the RET, but small frequent meals.
32:10Speaker 3If you fast, that's gonna be really hard, but then you can try not to eat a small meal, but good luck with the Reta because it makes you get full real fast.
32:18Speaker 3So I would change those up. Again, I would 2nd the HGH, you know, I'd say between 2 to 3 IUs daily
32:42Speaker 3production is a bit low, and Tesamorelin burns fat in your belly and will help boost your metabolism by
32:50Speaker 3increasing your growth and growth hormone. So maybe add in Tesamorelin, 500 to 2000 micrograms a night.
33:02Speaker 3So dude, keep kicking ass. You know, you made progress, like keep going and keep focusing in and-
33:23Speaker 2I'm from Long Island, New York. I'm retired police officer. I'm having arthritis in both wrists
33:30Speaker 2and my right elbow. It feels like tennis elbow symptoms too. I have partial torn meniscus.
34:15Speaker 2take anything for blood pressure or cholesterol anymore. Perfect. I was taking 15 units of Wolverine,
34:40Speaker 2and it's really hard to work out with the pain. I dropped the kettle ball a lot because of the pain coming from my wrists. I just don't know if I'm taking enough Wolring stack. If you were me, would you increase dosage?
34:53Speaker 2By how much, if you were me, you guys are really awesome. And I'm thankful to have found you guys learn
34:59Speaker 2from you to learn from the best. Take care and thanks again for everything. That was dope. Yeah, that's cool.
35:06Speaker 3I'll give you a little so the main question is Wolverine, like, should I increase it? Hell yeah. Dude, I would go super aggressive and
35:17Speaker 3you know, I don't know. You don't you don't really know exactly what it is. You seem to think it's arthritis, but,
35:26Speaker 3in the spots, right? If the pain's originating from here, right, which is generally tennis elbow,
35:32Speaker 3if it's radiating down your wrist, I know that feeling. Where this hurts so bad that you just can't even squeeze or hold on to something.
35:56Speaker 3Hell, you can add 1 mil of water to make yourself inject less. 1 mil of water and then 10 units
36:02Speaker 3will be 1 mg of each. 20 units will be 2 mg of each. Yeah. So that would go pretty fast.
36:14Speaker 3I think I would I would I would run that for 3 weeks. Yeah. Maybe even if you wanna do it 15 days, you wanna use like 3 bottles and go aggressive for 15 days, watch what happens.
36:31Speaker 3maybe 1 mg, 3 times a week instead of 2 mg daily. So I'd go real aggressive there. You know,
36:53Speaker 3pain significantly potentially. And Epitalon actually, the Epitalon running like 100 mg
37:02Speaker 3for 10 days, 100 mg, do that twice a year. That actually is good and can really help with people's inflammation.
37:29Speaker 3I used to buy this from bottles from my neighbor all the time, and I take it and I notice it when I start. I'm like, damn, why do my joints are hurting? I go, oh shoot, I ran out of the, I ran out of those pills like 3 days ago. So given some over the counter dude, that's just awesome.
37:54Speaker 2And, you know, you're kicking ass and that's awesome. But the difference would the only thing that I would kind of add to that will degrade on that answer is I would add HGH.
38:11Speaker 2right under it for guys that are over 40 and especially you because you have a lot of injuries.
38:16Speaker 2So that's gonna be something that you wanna you run it with the Tesamorelin for sure. And
38:24Speaker 2maybe out the gate to just really get you saturated, even bump it up a little bit because that's going help you heal. It's going to help the wounds heal. But that protocol that we'll just said, that's great, man. But yeah, jump on the HGH,
38:42Speaker 3You've done, you've kicked ass. I mean, that high stress job with all these injuries, right? To get to have your test be in the 8 75 and estrogen 29,
38:50Speaker 3not taking any more meds for blood pressure or cholesterol, like good for you. That took some work after you're just kind of abusing your body for a while,
39:04Speaker 2I don't know. I don't know. Long Island, New York takes care of its police officers, their pensions. And you might claim that 41 is young, so good job. Also with the blood pressure and the cholesterol medicine, I'm assuming they're saying a statin, but why don't let's put some KPV in there and try to reboot your gut because those things just destroy your gut, man. So throw on some KPV
39:30Speaker 3Throw that in there too. Did you know that they when they were so they started studying MOTS-3C because and how that started was they took
39:39Speaker 3So centennials are people who are of who live over a 100 years old. Alright? So they said, what the like, how why are these people living over a 100 years old? They- Mitochondria is- Basically, the 1 thing they were studying mitochondria and the 1 thing they all had in common was
39:54Speaker 3higher levels of MOTSY or whatever MOTSY does to to, you know Rip it up. To to increase that mitochondrial function. So that is how they discovered MOTSY.
40:16Speaker 3Okay. I have to go. I got it. I think I'm Hey guys, I'm a 37 year old female and I want to improve my physique.
40:23Speaker 3Slim the waist, increase the lower body muscle growth, and improve my mood and sex drive. I'm 5
40:33Speaker 3weight train 5 days a week, eat at a maintenance with high protein, and order peptides like a fiend.
40:39Speaker 3But I feel like I don't actually know what stack would be best for me. Help. I want the ultimate fat blasting, muscle building, sex drive improving stack.
40:57Speaker 3500 micrograms every AM. AOD, 5 days a week in the AM, workout days. I've debated ipamorelin,
41:05Speaker 3I'm open to any and all suggestions. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. I can't get enough.
41:28Speaker 2You know, we all want a nice sex drive. Would say, obviously I would imagine you have to get your blood work done. You're 37, you're getting up there and our hormones start changing. Damn, they start changing a lot earlier than 37 these days.
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42:29Speaker 237 too young for testosterone? Probably a little bit, but man, I don't know, man. Maybe some progesterone, but anyways, Kisspeptin is okay. I would get your blood work done and kind of see where your actual hormone levels are at.
42:50Speaker 2because you want to feel good, you might want to try to maybe, replace the Reta for a bit with Tesofensine.
43:12Speaker 2like right away. I like taking it before I take my coffee in the morning. And we will agree with this. It just really kinda just makes you feel like you're in a good mood. And
43:21Speaker 2that will help you with your mood. So, or if you stay on the Retta, we can replace that with Selank and Semax. There's now a blend. You can knock it out in 1 shot.
43:33Speaker 2pull out the Retta, or if you want to keep the Retta in, leave it in and do the Selank and the C Max.
43:40Speaker 2I think you might like the Tesofensine, man. I'm a big fan of it and it gives you a lot of energy
44:00Speaker 2And the obvious is gonna be the PT-one hundred 41 for your sex drive. If you haven't found it, if you haven't tried it,
44:12Speaker 2You're gonna need to take it and it works within like a certain period. For me, it works within about a day to 2.
44:18Speaker 2And as I think Will talked about it last time, oh, we did PT-one hundred 41 last week.
44:23Speaker 2You don't like just get horny, but if somebody starts talking to you dirty and you start thinking about it, it revs it up. Yeah. You know what I mean? So that's how that's gonna work and that's gonna help.
44:52Speaker 2kind of better than than where you're at. And, I think that would be a good take to try those.
44:58Speaker 2Yeah. Get a link in where you needed to go. Yeah. So you're you've like, right now, you actually have a really good stack. So I'm I'm gonna not try to I'm trying not to repeat things that, JD just said. But What you're taking on testosterone or getting the blood work? You think that, when's the level that our ladies are even starting to do that? Is that too young now? Because men are like 28.
45:21Speaker 3I would say, let's listen to the blood work and how you feel and actually talk to your doc. I'm not that versed with the women. So sorry. Can't really give you the right answer, but
45:31Speaker 3hell go to the doctor and get your blood work done. No matter what. And just, no matter what, let's see what that, see what that yields, see where your testosterone is, see where all of your other hormonal markers are.
45:42Speaker 3Kisspeptin is great. It's a good optimal rate. I would even, you could even bump that up to like a milligram 3 times a week. So that's great. Everything I mean, what you're taking sounds really good. Okay? And I think nothing is wrong.
46:07Speaker 3I generally definitely think that that is the best 1 for women. Okay? So Tessa is gonna and will help your muscle It will help you put on some muscle without, you know, like the CJC
46:23Speaker 3maximize muscle growth muscle growth. But for women, it tends to cause too much of both, and you will maybe add some water attention that you won't be happy with.
46:35Speaker 3and will help and IpA will help with muscle growth. So I like that 10 to 3 ratio. Yeah. I would definitely add that in. That will really help. I would also add an NAD for a woman. Like it helps your brain health, cognitive
47:00Speaker 3Yeah. 3 times a week. But as tolerated, don't go bump too fast too much, okay? Because you'll have overwhelming
47:08Speaker 3tingling and it won't be fun for you. PT-one hundred 41, a 100%. That stuff's awesome. Even, shoot, you get like nasal spray or something and maybe you should experiment with like a micro dose daily. You want just like a
47:30Speaker 3an hour before sex run it and it will work. I promise you about Yeah. I mean, it's literally like FDA approved
47:37Speaker 3essentially female Viagra. So it works, except for it doesn't it works in your brain, not in your thing. Yeah.
47:51Speaker 3I think you're kicking ass. I would add I would add some of those Cmax for energy, but
48:07Speaker 3Try them, experiment them. They're a long play. Right? You know, I would give everything a fair shake, at least 90 days, really. I really kind of say 120 days Totally. On everything you try to really get that full benefit, and then you'll know
48:22Speaker 3and what you don't like. Some things work better than some people, some things work less. Good. But
48:42Speaker 2and would like to start your Zepatide 3 times a week at night. Some say that you shouldn't take 2 GLP-1s.
48:57Speaker 3is no. I think the only time that you would want to take them at once is if you were transitioning from 1 to another. I
49:08Speaker 3Reta just does everything way better. Period. Like, literally, the only thing that tirzepatide does better, and it's not even something better, but it has less anti nausea. Therefore, you feel more nauseous.
49:21Speaker 3Therefore, you will eat like nothing. Like, you do not want to eat anything, and it's not like your projectile,
49:28Speaker 3like, vomiting nausea. You don't almost know that you're nauseous. You're just like, damn, I'm just not hungry.
49:33Speaker 3Yeah. Don't I feel like throwing up, I sure as hell don't feel like eating. If you want to feel like that, that's the only benefit to transapatide.
49:39Speaker 3Yeah. But like Retatrutide does everything way better. Think that's what people think they're supposed to feel. That is what people think they're supposed So like, Retrut throws that curveball
49:51Speaker 2Yeah. No. So that's my thought. Yeah. I've heard people say that. I mean, you could kind of worsen the digestion stuff. I've done some reading a little bit on bowl. If you add the 2, you don't need it. You don't need it. It's like, why would you drive like a Rolls Royce and like just a lower grade car? You know what I mean? Like, why do that? You can. Right.
50:13Speaker 2you don't really give us much of like what your objectives are, what you're trying to accomplish, what your goals are, weight. So there's, it's kind of a big question, but, so yeah, no, I would not do that personally.
50:23Speaker 2There's other peptides that you can help probably get to your goal that you can up the RITA
50:34Speaker 2add protein. A lot of ladies think they need to eat salads and stuff, but like, listen, you start with a protein 1st thing in the morning. Those
50:49Speaker 3couple minutes ago, like that is a good product for somebody who's maybe coming off of the GLPs, right? They want to give their body a break from any of these GLP ones because it does help your brain feel satiated and not want to eat and keep your energy levels Yeah. Up.
51:09Speaker 3I printed out just some, like, I researched some different fun facts, and I had known this before, but the g l p but here's the GLP-1s
51:17Speaker 3were a lot of the research is based on the, Gila monster. So you know what those are? They look like like a Komodo dragon. Really? Right? Wow. Because those
51:28Speaker 3and and their saliva and their saliva's toxic. That's why they kill you is because they'll bite you, but their saliva is just is like toxic and you will have an infection and then slowly die. Yeah. But
51:41Speaker 3study them? Because these things can go months and months without eating and maintain just perfect blood sugar. So,
51:52Speaker 3part of Retta is doing, right? You're not eating food, but it's still pumping insulin like you are eating food, which is actually freaking anabolic.
52:01Speaker 3And it is just constantly monitoring your blood sugar, right? So when I don't eat and I'm taking Retta, shit, my brain does doesn't go hangry. Right? Because my blood sugar doesn't crash. Right. It self regulates. So I it pushes up sugar into my brain, so I feel
52:14Speaker 3I feel great and I still have energy. My brain bursts even without eating, which is crazy.
52:21Speaker 3You're a big boy. I'm up. Alright. I'm late. I'm a late thirties mom with Mom. A very active lifestyle. I'm on my feet all day as a teacher. I exercise and play sports daily, and I'm constantly running after my kids. Despite staying after act active, I often feel flat,
52:42Speaker 3I've already lost around 5 kg on 2 mg of Retta and previously lost about 20 kilograms on tirzepatide,
52:59Speaker 3and addressing some loose skin from my earlier weight loss. My goals are leaner, more toned physique, especially midsection, improved energy and recovery,
53:16Speaker 3I'm also conscious of keeping things simple. I don't want an overly complicated or high injection protocol, and I'm cautious about anything with significant long term risks
53:28Speaker 3Starting from Retta 2 mg, what would a minimal evidence informed peptide stack or add on protocol look like to support these goals? Fat loss, muscle tone, energy scan, longevity while keeping it simple and sustainable. That was effing awesomely written. Good job. Yeah. She's a teacher. That was you're a teacher. No shit. Wow. Like, you're giving instructions. That's really good. Will liked it because he grew up with a teacher. Yeah. Both my parents are teachers. He he understood the language. Yeah. That made perfect sense. Good job. My mother's my mother's has been, like, an English teacher for her whole life. My father's been a art
54:09Speaker 2Tupont. Tupont. And, his mom, I don't think she could be there, but she sent a letter To Chad. To my sponsor. And his sponsor him. But dude, I remember
54:23Speaker 2letter ever. It was so well written. I remember literally thinking that going, wow. Was like a professional way.
54:40Speaker 3read this aloud in front of everybody. Which he did. And he did. And so like we had dinner like 20, 30 people, and then we walked outside and Chad got up on some like electrical box and said, all right, mom, it was mom wanting me to read this. And it was, yes, it was
55:03Speaker 3thanks, mom. It's embarrassing, but whatever. It wasn't really that embarrassing. Yeah. No. It's good. So to answer your question, so simple this is very good. Helpful. So, Retta, 2 mg. Cool.
55:13Speaker 3Dig it. Stay there. So from the standpoint of she doesn't want to inject much. Yeah. Doesn't want to inject much. Sorry, the weather's still making me some. So I would do NAD.
56:14Speaker 3like, is like a funnel and just shoving food down the cancer's throat. Yep. That will make it grow a lot faster
56:25Speaker 3K? I'm willing to bet a lot on that, but I don't know how we're gonna really, really prove that in the next,
56:41Speaker 3I mean, GHKCu. Sorry. You want your skin to look better. The NAD actually, I think, really, really will help, but I also do think that that GHKCu
57:09Speaker 3telling everything just to grow more, right? It is literally just signaling to damaged
57:21Speaker 3to injuries and make them grow. Therefore, it is basically just zipping right by any potential cancer because cancer isn't a
57:51Speaker 2physical. Then I will stop. It was great. Wrote you basically everything that I had written down is you answered. So it was great. The only thing that I would add is creatine. I think that is something everybody should take. So even you ladies, creatine is awesome.
58:05Speaker 2So jump that and then just the standard, get back to it. You are running around chasing kids. I know this by watching my wife.
58:22Speaker 2probably the Clo would probably be the best because you'll knock out, you know, 4 in 1 and you want that gut health. So the KPV is going to do a lot for you on that and sleep,
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59:10Speaker 2and am creating my own blends by mixing everything into 1 syringe and injecting once, but am I making this more complicated than necessary? Am I missing something or is it basically impossible to dose them precisely in a blend? I love to understand better. Thoughts?
1:00:02Speaker 3so if I have a syringe and it's got a 100 units, right, and those are just units. I'm talking every little integer, a 100 units. Now, I break that into sets of 10. So out of a 100 units, there are 10
1:00:13Speaker 3sets of 10. Okay? So I look at that because my ultimate goal is I wanna know what's in 10 units after you inject it. So a 100 units is it equals to 10. 200 units is equal to 20. So, what I do is I take the milligram of the peptide.
1:00:28Speaker 3So, let's do these individually, okay? It's a blend, but you're better off, you need to do the math individually
1:00:33Speaker 3because just by going, Let's calculate with 70 mg, that's not important. Yeah. Because you need to know how much GHKC you're getting, how much BPC and how much TB. So if I would do it So we're going do this 3 times, right? So here is the math. What I do is milligram, so 50
1:00:54Speaker 3that you propose to put in the water of water that you put in. So I would propose to put in 200 units, which is
1:01:29Speaker 3well, we have to do it to the others. So you got to check the math to make sure, because it's a blend, right? 10,
1:01:48Speaker 3of TB-five hundred and of BPC because they're both 10 mg. So add 2 mls of water to the glow.
1:01:57Speaker 3And I would say your dose is 10 units and that 10 units will yield, that will give you 2.5
1:02:19Speaker 3divide it by Yeah. The arbitrary number. This is kind of a guess and check, though, sometimes. Right? Like, how much water do you wanna add? Make that round numbers. Right. So if you did 1 mil, it just would I mean, 1 mil.
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1:03:31Speaker 3You know, you would do You wanna put 2 mils in a in a We would still the thing with the GHKCU
1:03:36Speaker 3Yeah. I would want I want you to put 2 mils water. For sure. Because you need that needs to be
1:03:41Speaker 3you're not so densely concentrated or it's gonna burn like hell. Yeah. But if I just had the BPC TB,
1:03:47Speaker 3if it was just 10 mils, 10 mils, shit, I would just put 1 mil of water. Again. Okay? Inject less. 1 mil, so then then the math is you go 10. If 1 mil is 10, 10 divided by 10, 1. Yeah. But 10 units, was 1 mg. Right. So like, yeah, the ones that burn, you want to dilute them a little bit more. Yeah. Other than that and like high dose stuff, if you have MOTS-forty,
1:04:14Speaker 3Than that, and again, the number of water is really just arbitrary. You just make it up. It doesn't matter. It's not like something works better. You don't ruin it. The yeah. In fact, we're wearing it. Because we're talking units or what what is what is that equal in milligrams or or you know what I mean? So And by the way, if anybody says, oh, I take this many units or something, that means actually nothing. Like, we have no idea what you're talking about. If you don't tell us how much water you put in. Right. But we can make some guesstimations based on kinda what we know. What we've, yeah, talked about.
1:04:42Speaker 2We may mainly get it. But at the same time, it's not units, it's milligram. Yeah. And units
1:04:56Speaker 3out of context means nothing in the world. Right? Whereas grams mean something. Vol like milliliters
1:05:01Speaker 3mean something to everybody. Right. Grams means that I use, in fact, mean something to everybody everywhere. Right. Units, it only makes any sense if you are look talking about a specific syringe. Yeah. Units are just little integers.
1:05:24Speaker 2This is a different question. Mhmm. Do some oils have different levels of effectiveness?
1:05:58Speaker 2MCT is like a thinner oil, and it's obviously gonna be the healthier oil. I remember when they switched to MCT, I was like, what is this? Yeah, right. Is it blood odor? Yeah, I was like, dude, bro, I remember. Yeah. And,
1:06:21Speaker 2time don't do well with MCT oil. I was 1 of those people and it was really kind of throwing a curve ball. Some people don't do well, like, with different esters, propionate, and things. Yeah. It's really just
1:06:40Speaker 3hurts different. No. But no. And I don't I think there's a lot that. How you inject, it's also Don't jab it in slow.
1:06:48Speaker 2Like, heat up the oil and go slow. Don't just go Yeah. Like, you're gonna push too much oil there, and you're gonna get pit, man. It's gonna hurt. Yeah. But it also matters all of the ingredients and how much you put in things. So, like, folks, everybody's like, you have the there's the raw hormone. Okay?
1:07:28Speaker 3mgs per milliliter. 1st of all, I think it's way too high of a dose. But can do it. Keep that in ester and not crack not falling out of its ester, you better put a lot of benzyl benzoate in there. Yeah. So benzylbenzoate
1:07:45Speaker 3Well, that makes it hurt a lot more. Yeah. So you better keep your ester you better keep it together, but it's gonna hurt more if you put more benzoin benzoate in there, but it sure will make it more stable. Right. The benzyl alcohol is to protect
1:08:03Speaker 3And also there's a good amount of benzoyl alcohol in there, so that's also to help you not so to to be basically sterile to go in India. Okay? So those 2 matter. I could make you can make the same compound and just put a higher level of benzoyl benzoate, and that'll hurt like a mother. Higher level of benzoin benzoin alcohol. It'll hurt like crazy. The and then then you have the different esters. Now,
1:08:28Speaker 3pharmaceutical standard, and I think now most of those guys are using grape seeds. Like, cottonseed oil is pretty thin
1:08:56Speaker 3Yeah. A lot of people believe will. Mean that it's impossible to have a reaction to it. It means it's probably the least
1:09:04Speaker 3of because it's the most highly filtered in. So MCT oil, and actually we should call it what it actually is, is Miglol 8, which is a 60 40 blend.
1:09:14Speaker 3Yeah. And the good shit is good shit. I mean Makes a difference. Buy this for things. And for 1 gallon, folks,
1:09:40Speaker 3So castor oil, I have some notes here. Like, castor oil is used in, like, long ester things like decanoate,
1:09:50Speaker 3Helps it helps with the depot, the slow release. Yeah. Because it's such a thick oil. I mean, think of it like, right, the thinner oil is faster than going to give you. It just is what it is. It's like
1:10:06Speaker 3That was a great question. Yeah, no, that is really good. So grape seed oil is like, it's relatively hypoallergenic.
1:10:20Speaker 3faster and easier than anything else. Yeah. But so what you really and then there's ethyl oleate, which I've heard nothing of bad things. There's there's some potential
1:10:29Speaker 3bad stuff in there, so I would stay away with anything made with ethyl oleate, by the way. But Miglol
1:10:35Speaker 3Miglol 8 40 is MCT oil, and it's a 60 40 blend. And then you need to get it the, like, ultra refined
1:10:49Speaker 3That's that's the Cadillac. That's the 1 that you should do unless you happen to be this you know, have this have some type of weird reaction. And my guess is, though, it's usually not the reaction to the actual oil. It's reaction to the concentration Yeah.
1:11:08Speaker 3the testosterone is. I know people who've, like, made, like, test e 500. Right? It's like, yo, try this.
1:11:14Speaker 3I've tried that and holy shit. I couldn't sit down for 2 weeks. Oh, worse. There is no point there is a reason if you look at everything if you you go look everywhere. Why I've never seen this before? Right? Why I've not seen this before? Right? Like, scientists have figured this out a long time ago. Right? Dude, seriously. You didn't just make this up. You didn't right. There's a reason. You're you're you're not the only 1st person ever thinking about this. So
1:11:49Speaker 3K? It does not hurt. So something dosed way too high, now you so you say, hey, test 400. Right? Test 400 is classically 200 mgs of test SIP, 200 mgs of test E.
1:12:00Speaker 3Do that because a human can tolerate 200 mgs of SIP and 200 mgs of test E. What it cannot tolerate is 400 mgs of SIP. Yeah. Or 400 mgs of test So that's don't think it would stay in solution, bro. Think, no, you would have to put a ton of benzylbenzoyl in there,
1:12:15Speaker 3and that's why it would hurt really bad. Also that and the denseness. Faster esters tend to hurt more.
1:12:25Speaker 3esters are going to hurt more. You're going to get more of it, right? Our body naturally cleanses itself and stops
1:12:44Speaker 3go, well, if it's the same price, what the hell? I'm getting twice as much with the SIP. Why would I ever want to buy the prop? Okay.
1:12:51Speaker 3Well, guess what? If we have something that's that fast of an Ester and getting in you that fast, our body doesn't have the chance to filter any of it out. So you're getting, you know, 95%
1:13:03Speaker 3of those hundred milligrams of test prop. But guess what? Test SIB is such a slow release, right? 6, 7 days,
1:13:11Speaker 3you're getting about 60% of that. You're really they're basically equaled out, right? SIB is actually not you're not getting twice as much testosterone.
1:13:30Speaker 2just say try them all and then, you know, like everybody's likes his peptides, man, you're going to be different. And again, I wanna be redundant for a reason. A lot of it's gonna sometimes depend on you and how you inject. If you don't know what you're doing, watch YouTube.
1:13:44Speaker 2There's videos everywhere. Do it properly and you're gonna avoid some of that PIP that probably could be avoidable, man.
1:13:50Speaker 3Good question, Melanotan. Good question. Very good question. There's a side here. Was goes right. You know what, here's another thing that I just learned. So, you know, the injector pens, peptide injector pens, you and I, we've had HGH, we've had the tirzepatide injector pens. We've got several of them. Did you use that very I mean, basically, it turns out that those pens are just kind of more of a pain in the ass than
1:14:15Speaker 3People have never done it. Yeah, people have never done it. But if you do that, you push the tiny little needle, right? Yeah. This long, that's it. Boom. And you push it in. Okay.
1:14:28Speaker 3Chad, other friends, it's like dripping out and you're like, Wait a minute, did it get in me? And then I figured out the other day
1:14:42Speaker 3actually drips into you. Oh, wow. And you need to keep holding it there. So anytime that I ever use it, I would just go,
1:14:49Speaker 3basically, I was getting nothing. These things suck, dude. Just a waste. So if you have 1 them pens, you need to put it in there and hold it.
1:14:57Speaker 3Yeah. And they do they say some ridiculous like, on the actual instructions, it's like, hold for 3 minutes. Like, who's gonna do that? You know? But really, you know, at least 30 seconds, I would absolutely hold it up because you do notice you push in that just
1:15:10Speaker 3slowly And because all guys like peptides just realize if you're getting, like, a red flush,
1:15:16Speaker 3you can reduce that easily by just injecting it way slower. Right? People who are leaner
1:15:21Speaker 3are gonna get that way more of a flush because it's just hitting you. It doesn't have the fat to absorb it and then slowly get into it. Right? You lean and you just jam it down. It's a lot. Yeah. You could actually that can be the difference between actually having a reaction and just no reaction whatsoever. So
1:15:41Speaker 3So especially the oils. Right? Don't use a brand new needle too. I mean, that's huge. Those needles, the testosterone needle is so big. Yeah. You reuse 1, you're causing scar tissue. No.
1:15:51Speaker 3Don't reuse 1. And it'll just cut you up and then nothing will work as great. Alright. Alright. Last 1. Take a moment. For Tesamorelin, I have heard people saying both. Keep it in the fridge or after reconstitution or don't keep it in the fridge because it's a long amino acid chain and it can fold. Mine has been in the fridge the whole time. Is that right?
1:16:14Speaker 3Any that don't last very long that I should know about. I just used the last of my Retta,
1:16:20Speaker 3that's been in the fridge for 8 weeks. Is the efficacy still the same? You guys are awesome. Thanks for all your help. Alright.
1:16:31Speaker 3it is, like, fickle. Okay? And especially if you're getting, like, the Tesa 20 mg. Right? The denser
1:16:50Speaker 3something might've gelled up, like you have 2 of the same things, right, bought them for the same 1st 1 of them gels up. Well, maybe that 1 was exposed to too much heat or light, right, and degraded a bit. But for Tesamorelin specifically, here's my suggestion. You add definitely room temp water,
1:17:11Speaker 3That's something like You're talking water or the Tesa? Tesa. So once mixed. So 1st of all, room temp water, 70 ish degrees water.
1:17:20Speaker 3Once you then have mixed it, I would not store it in the fridge. I would store it in a cool in a, you know, in an air conditioned room inside of a cupboard or something. Keep
1:17:52Speaker 320 days. You know, 0.5 of a milligram is about as little as a person would want to go.
1:18:05Speaker 3that's the best that's the best advice I can give you. I know this guy said, hey, mine's been in the fridge the whole time. Good for you. Good.
1:18:11Speaker 2I don't think it matters that much, but I would kind of follow what Will said, but I don't think it matters that much, but you don't want to inject cold water because that's where you're going have maybe have some gelling up. If you inject cold water, we've seen it and it's not necessarily the peptides bad. It's just, you did it wrong. We all learn takes time. And sometimes
1:18:27Speaker 3we have you realize that you tested it and redone it and redone it and it works every time. Also slowly adding the water in. Absolutely. Right? Do not squirt that right out of here. Are
1:18:47Speaker 3is is a bit is a bit delicate. Put enough water in there. The ones that may potentially gel up like AOD For sure. Make sure you use, like, acidic acid, sound sloop.
1:18:57Speaker 3would say that, dude, I mean, I also have had a trizepatide and Retta in my fridge or my neighbor's
1:19:04Speaker 3fridge, and literally she didn't she it was in there for a year. She did it again, and it worked great. Yeah. So, like, we don't really deal with this rule forever.
1:19:13Speaker 2Forever. Yeah. It still worked. Dude, I've had yes. I've had PT-one hundred 41 in longer than a year. But answer. Generally, the general rule of thumb, whatever that's even worth is 30 to 60 days. Is that
1:19:24Speaker 2mean that it's not going to work past that? Of course not. It doesn't. Oh, it's 60 days. It doesn't work. I mean, again, I've left PT in there for, I don't even know, a long time because you don't use it that often and it worked just like it was fresh. So What I would do is I would buy, if you're buying the Pet Duds and you're going to use them, I would, won't you plan it out and fucking use them? But like buy enough
1:19:45Speaker 3that once you mix it, that you'll use it in 30 days. Yeah. So, like, let's say you you you happen to wanna do Tesamorelin,
1:19:58Speaker 3Why don't you buy the 10 mg bottle? Yeah. And just and then use that because the 20 mg 1 will last you way too long. It'll be mixed and be sitting there way too long. Just like be smarter rather than dumber.
1:20:10Speaker 3Think through it. Yeah. It's math. But like good I mean, dude, that's a and all the new peptides that come out, right, some are
1:20:19Speaker 3than others. And so that's why we're learning when we 1st started doing this, there wasn't that many
1:20:24Speaker 3out and there wasn't. And now we've had to adapt and learn that certain peptides have certain finicky issues.
1:20:32Speaker 2Yeah, absolutely. And we're always under construction and learning. That's why I love what we do.
1:21:10Speaker 2JD is but we can multipurpose some of those. Yeah. We like to show who are the people that you don't see. You see us and we
1:21:20Speaker 2don't do all the back end stuff. We would love, actually, would not love to say that we did that, but we could just come sit down and we have people that allow us to kick ass and just do what we like to do. And, I want well, we want to show you those people. Yeah. Because
1:21:35Speaker 3are awesome. And we treat them like fan. Oh, that's a So I know this is like asking you if you're like, which child do you like best? Okay. But I'll still play the game.
1:21:45Speaker 3But I but I will give them maybe a tie. This means I actually I actually, like, love every
1:21:50Speaker 3dude, everybody that we have on a team is freaking awesome. We've got a good crew. I figured they're all We got a couple doozy fans on the same website. Yeah, man. I mean, it's bad people. Yes. We've had some issues.
1:22:02Speaker 3Just like every other business owner, they understand. This is a tough part. I'm gonna say it's a tie between Brandy and Rob, I and have a feeling that we both will say Rob. But
1:22:13Speaker 3she's just so effing competent. On the day 1, she was like, screw it. Give me the screwdriver. I'll roll up my sleeves and just hang out in the insulation. She was like hired to be my executive assistant.
1:22:37Speaker 3like running around to help people all day long. Now you got to keep him focused. But
1:22:56Speaker 2people that flow with the vibe and our morals and our integrity level. Like, we've missed the mark a couple of times. Nobody's perfect, but
1:23:05Speaker 2we've just really been blessed to get rad people. Like, not saying that convenience because Brandy's sitting there behind the soundboard, but, we like people that
1:23:17Speaker 2And that's pretty rare in this world. Like, people just get after it. And I had some stuff going on with my throat and Brandy brings me tea. That's just kindness. That's just love. So, I love Brandy too. She just kicks ass. I love Mario. Mario is just a beast. I call him the beast. He, how I found Mario was I was on a podcast. I was asked to be on a podcast and it was my 1 of my 1st podcasts I'd ever done.
1:23:43Speaker 2needed something after, and I'm not good at any type of tech stuff and I needed to do something.
1:23:48Speaker 2And I asked him if he could help me and I'd pay him. He's like, no, I'll do it for you. And he sent it to me quickly.
1:23:54Speaker 2And I was like, wow, dude, let me pay you. And he wouldn't let me pay him. And I was just, wow, that's not like normal people. Like, I'm not, it's just so rare these days. I just love people like that. And then long story short, he hit me back later and say, Hey, have you ever
1:24:06Speaker 2branch out? I was doing a podcast at the time, but ever do want to do anything else. I, you know, I edited blah, blah. And
1:24:12Speaker 2I did that podcast fizzled out and I did. I talked to him. Sent him a text and now he works for his full time and does so much stuff editing behind the scenes. And so I love more. I could go on and about all of those. They're
1:24:40Speaker 2we are pretty damn choosy because you got to fit with the vibe, dude. Like you gotta be, we love people that like I said, now my job, figuring out. Yeah. You figured out like Brandy came with lots of skills. We had no idea that she knew how to put you through the podcast.
1:24:54Speaker 2podcast, if she came in with her and Will, man, they didn't chew. We're like the dynamic dude, they kicked ass.
1:25:01Speaker 2Hope that answers your question. We gotta be a little bit vague. No, we love them all. I'm not even lying. But good question. Yeah. From left field. Good stuff. Other than that, join school and,
1:25:11Speaker 2Paul back here will be on the next round and, we'll figure out what we're gonna talk about it, but we're gonna spend some time thinking on it. So we want it to be rad. Yeah. So other than that, we'll see you next time. Cool. Good night.