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0:50Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way, William T. HGH. What is up, dude? What's up, man?
1:01Speaker 2Full force. Life is full force. Lace full force. We have a full day. You
1:06Speaker 2got a full week. Got a lot going on. I have this, I got a cool story that
1:11Speaker 2I was thinking about. Did actually, I made it real. I was driving today because it was something I had been thinking on.
1:17Speaker 2And this is just being a father.
1:18Speaker 2You'll realize it day. I know you're working towards that. So
1:22Speaker 2my wife was dealing with Jax and, you know, Jax is Jax. He's being a butthole to her. So she's like, can you take him for a bit? So I scooped him up and took him to a movie. And we pulled into the parking lot and as we're walking to the theater, you know, he just obviously grabs my hand and we're walking. And I don't know if it's an epiphany, I don't know if it's just catching up to life and its perspective,
1:43Speaker 2but I was thinking, I was like, man, this
1:46Speaker 2is almost over for
1:49Speaker 2him at least. Mason's chilling behind him. But when does kids stop holding your hand across the street?
1:56Speaker 29 year olds don't. River don't do that. Right? Maybe 7, 6, I don't know.
2:01Speaker 2Give or take, oh, 7 year olds do. But
2:04Speaker 2the reason I say that is just because it's like, did you start to realize that these are these last ofs.
2:10Speaker 2Yeah. And last time I'll pick my son up
2:13Speaker 2and take him to bed because when you're old enough, you're like, Come on, bud, you're it's time for bed, you walk him to bed. I don't know why that hit me so hard, but like,
2:21Speaker 2it's a part of life. But, like, sometimes I get so frustrated with them. You've seen, like, I mean, my son's coming out nowhere else with, like, bats out of hell. Yeah. And it's like, here come the denim boys. You know what mean?
2:32Speaker 2And it's chaos, and it's chaos at home, but, and sometimes I get frustrated as hell, man. But, I try to slow down and just be like,
2:40Speaker 2these are the times we will miss even though they are really rough at times.
2:44Speaker 1No doubt. It's always I know. I mean, Alyssa, I was in here yesterday, she came in. She's like,
2:50Speaker 1I just don't know what's wrong. Like, Jack Jack's I don't know. What what what was it? Like, she got him something,
2:57Speaker 1but he wanted a little bit more, and so he threw the milkshake all over her car. My son's a punk rocker. Oh my dude. I mean, yeah. You know, it's funny. I mean, our kid, he's 9, and he will you're like, we're going getting you ice cream and
3:10Speaker 1get him 2 scoops,
3:11Speaker 1and he will go ape shit
3:13Speaker 1and crying because he didn't get 3 fucking scoops. That's crazy.
3:17Speaker 1Sorry for swearing. I like that's
3:19Speaker 1just driving me crazy. I'm like, dude, you get no scoops. Does he listen to you? Yes.
3:25Speaker 1Yes, he does.
3:27Speaker 1He will mostly
3:29Speaker 1Yeah, Yeah, he does. Like, I don't
3:31Speaker 1no, he does not do that. No, he doesn't do that.
3:34Speaker 1I try not to, like, create the rules. I just try to, like, enforce
3:40Speaker 2his mother's rules. You know what I mean? Yeah. Step Step parents is really finesse. I've done it. I my ex wife had a stepdaughter,
3:47Speaker 2and it's
3:48Speaker 1hard navigate.
3:50Speaker 1Yeah. And luckily, he he has never been
3:52Speaker 1he's never been, like, combative and argumentative towards me. Right? There's never been that like, oh, you're
3:59Speaker 1not my dad or or like, fuck you. I'm protecting my mom. Yeah.
4:03Speaker 1But,
4:05Speaker 1yeah, I don't know. It's tough, though. It is tough. Yeah. It was his birthday yesterday. Oh, really? No way.
4:11Speaker 1So we won't come up with, he's 10 years old. Yeah. Decade. And
4:16Speaker 1I don't know. There's it's just it's it is hard, especially like it not being your kid that you Yeah. It's rough. Like, would want to maybe do something different. But then again, he's got a whole lifetime of habits Yeah.
4:29Speaker 1That
4:30Speaker 1that are what they are and just gotta do their best. But, you know, even the birthday, like, woke him up with all these presents and balloons and stuff. And like, for the time he's sick, he's going to bed, it was
4:39Speaker 1I had just be like, hey, look, your birthday, it's good job. It's not a license. You don't it's not your license, though, just to be an asshole all day long.
4:48Speaker 1Because he was just feisty. Well, he's like, well, it's my birthday. I get to do whatever I want. Like, that's not funny, bro.
4:56Speaker 2Some of the problem, though you know, I know my wife's gonna listen to this, but it's the truth, babe. I love you. She just can't say no. She's very bad at saying no. And I'm like, it's your some of it's your fault, honey. Say no. Because I'm like, no. And then they stop. She has a problem. Sure. See that, but there has to be a balance and they're definitely it's like Ali's Ali is great with him. He also has got a really short memory. Like, when things I realized,
5:20Speaker 1he could be crying and pissed at her, like, literally 5 minutes later, it's like nothing happened. Right? Kid does not, like, hold a grudge. Yeah. And she'll worry like, oh, it's his birthday, and I made him cry. Like,
5:33Speaker 1he will he won't even have any idea that this happened just tomorrow morning. You would,
5:38Speaker 2it'll be completely different. Owe them something, and they don't forget. Yeah. Remember when you said yesterday that you're gonna give me a toy? Yeah.
5:44Speaker 1Then they don't forget it. I've also had that talk with him. Like, so where did you learn? And I gotta remember, like, I tend to all of you guys know me, like, I tend to explain things too much. Like, being too analytical, it does not work for a 9 year old. Right? You gotta, like After looking at E like He's like, yeah, I'm gone. Yeah. But,
6:03Speaker 1so I have to keep the word short. But
6:06Speaker 1like, so
6:08Speaker 1I guess, weren't you learn that everybody else has to stand up to their word, but you never have to stand up to your word? Right? Because it's always like, yeah, I'll do it later. I'll do it in 5 minutes. 5 minutes. Right? But then if somebody's promised him a Coca Cola 4 days ago, it's like, I need the cookie promised me.
6:24Speaker 1I deal with it every day, man. But, I think my explanation was too long on that 1. I don't think you gotta do it.
6:31Speaker 1But he's a dude. He's actually like a I don't know. You know? Yes. But you're He's a good he's a good He's a good candidate. You have a unique ability to
6:41Speaker 2shape a little person's life. Sure. My
6:44Speaker 2wife, you know, and I'll say this out of convenience because she's my wife.
6:48Speaker 2I was a stepparent and it was rough.
6:51Speaker 2It really was. And
6:53Speaker 2to love
6:55Speaker 2a child that's not yours as much as yours,
6:58Speaker 2I don't think it's humanly possible. It
7:00Speaker 2is what it is.
7:01Speaker 2Dude, I'll tell you straight up, man, I'm going to give a huge shout out to my bride. My wife treated my daughter
7:08Speaker 2damn near as close as if it were her daughter.
7:11Speaker 2Even to this day, she'd done so much like she put together her baby shower and then my daughter's my daughter and then she doesn't get what she wants from her. Then she gets upset because she puts so much time in, but that's my wife's heart, you know that. She's a great human.
7:23Speaker 1But yeah, Alyssa got pretty damn close to treating my daughter like her own daughter. It's rough. That's cool. But it is hard. You have the ability to shape him. Well, you're gonna get though because he's in sports and- Yes. That stuff's fun, dude. He he definitely listens to me. Like, I definitely and it's just like it's a man's voice. Like, the kid was raised basically by 3 women. Right? He didn't have his father really ever. His dad's now showing up, which is good. Like, I I want
7:46Speaker 1yes. Yeah. He should have a dad. He still looks up to his dad, but
7:50Speaker 1Ali will be frustrated and be like, well, say something. And I was like, yell, and he'll just,
7:55Speaker 1alright, sorry.
7:58Speaker 2Of a big guy.
7:59Speaker 2You have that stature. Yeah.
8:01Speaker 1But, you know, it's kind of okay, so like, I don't want to my motto is part right. I'm not creating the rules, but I'll enforcers and
8:10Speaker 1speak softly and carry a big stick. So just I don't and I don't get
8:14Speaker 1I don't know. I don't freak out at all these little things. Right? But
8:19Speaker 1I'll just slightly remind and be the calm headed 1 because they definitely are
8:23Speaker 1you know, they've been those 2 have been living together for their whole lives. Yeah. As we know. Right? Like, I love my mother shit, and she's never said a bad thing about anybody and is the best mother to everyone. Everybody else loves her, but like, dude, I don't know. She drives me crazy
8:35Speaker 1because she's my mom.
8:37Speaker 1Yeah.
8:38Speaker 1I don't have he's not annoyed at me nagging at him for for his entire life. Right. But I so I try not to let's maintain that balance.
8:46Speaker 1And when I say something, then then I mean it,
8:49Speaker 2and let's do it, but I won't say much. It's the man's voice. Yeah. It is true. You don't have if you're, don't have a man in your child's life, it sucks because it really does work. I say no now. And they're like, no.
9:02Speaker 2Because I am dead serious though. Yeah. They get wood for me. It is what it is. Yeah. I believe it's bacon. Yep. Was faint, and I never questioned my parents' love. So
9:10Speaker 2so whatever. Each is out. Right? But a couple things before we get into the q and a, which, is everybody's favorite. Last week, we put it on hold. We had a couple guest doctors,
9:21Speaker 2Paul Bactiar. So now we're getting back to the q and a, but, this is a little bit premature and it's not setting it out on stage. What we're tentatively
9:29Speaker 2set in the 27th for the Warrior makeup
9:32Speaker 2meetup. It's not it's not set in stone, but probably is what we're shooting for. June 27 here at the warehouse. We'll let you guys all know. If you wanna come, let us shoot us DMs so we can start to kind of get a feel of Yeah. How many people will even be running.
9:47Speaker 2Then we'll set that in stone here shortly because we gotta plan it and get that all dialed in. And we're gonna do at the warehouse we've decided so that we can bring people in and meet them, shake their hands, take pictures, and just meet people that love the show. So that would be rad.
10:00Speaker 2Secondly, school is kicking butt, dude. We are, we were even, astonished by it. It's over 8,000 people and climbing quickly,
10:08Speaker 2and the feedback has been off the charts because people love it, man. You guys are talking amongst each other and getting a lot of knowledge from each other,
10:17Speaker 2sharing stories,
10:18Speaker 2sharing success stories, and it's been great. The VIP we're about to open up to have
10:24Speaker 2rad stuff. We'll be working on some dope stuff that we haven't put out yet, but it's coming. So the VIP, we're gonna charge $60
10:31Speaker 2a month, but it's gonna be well worth it. We give you 15% discount anyway, so that cancels it out if you do anything. If the mask works out in your favor, trust us. But you're gonna get rad stuff that only the VIP will see. We won't put it on any other of our channels, and we got some cool stuff, bro. So if you're not a member of school, get on there. You'll love it. Other than that, let's jump in for the Q and A. Will always does the on those that start us off. Let's jump right in. Alright. Number 1.
11:00Speaker 1This is actually
11:02Speaker 1a new question. Yeah, spreading.
11:05Speaker 1What's
11:06Speaker 1going on? Okay. So, hey, hey, JD and Will.
11:09Speaker 1Been with Warrior for 5 months. Awesome stuff. I love what you guys are doing. I have a couple questions.
11:15Speaker 1What is the story with bacterial static water? Is it really 28 days from popping the top then dispose?
11:21Speaker 1Also, with AOD-nine thousand 604, I've been cycling for the last 13 to 14 weeks
11:27Speaker 1at 500 micrograms daily fasted in the AM before working out. Should I split the dose in the AM and PM or take another 500 micrograms at night?
11:37Speaker 1Is 1 mg daily too much. Thanks. Look forward to hearing from you guys.
11:43Speaker 2Alright. Mateo.
11:44Speaker 1Yeah. Go ahead. Well, you wanna do the water thing. Sure. I'll talk about about the water. So yes. Yes. Yeah.
11:51Speaker 1It the
11:52Speaker 1they it is known that
11:55Speaker 1so basically, bacteriostatic water is made in benzyl alcohol and distilled water. The
12:01Speaker 1benzyl alcohol is there, is an antibacterial,
12:05Speaker 1okay, and it is not
12:07Speaker 1to protect you, the peptide user,
12:10Speaker 1from bacteria.
12:11Speaker 1It is to protect the actual peptide
12:14Speaker 1from bacteria that can degrade its efficacy, right? It can make it work a little bit less. Good. K?
12:22Speaker 1So
12:24Speaker 1that's what it's for. Yes. Basically, at 28 days, benzoyl alcohol starts to lose its
12:31Speaker 1its bacterial killing function. Now it starts to. It doesn't just all of a sudden
12:36Speaker 1stop working whatsoever. And also at the same time, it also depends on how much bacteria you're allowing to get in there. Okay? So every time you puncture that rubber stopper, that is an opportunity for bacteria to go in. And so
12:49Speaker 1I think that probably the number 1 way that bacteria can go in is if you, like, reuse the needle or something like that. So you have another you have a needle that you used last time,
12:58Speaker 1and that's been dirty. It's been sitting on the counter or whatever in a drawer,
13:02Speaker 1and now you just stick that in there. All that bacteria now has got in there.
13:08Speaker 1Then you drop but, basically, it can be at 28 days, cool. The men's alcohol starts to not work as great and then slowly is gonna work a little less good the whole time.
13:18Speaker 1But also it depends on how much you're
13:22Speaker 1not going to have that perfect. It doesn't just stop. And then all of a sudden the perfect bacteria just floods your peptide and then kills everything and makes it not work. Okay? But
13:30Speaker 1so to each his own, right? To each his own, everybody, you'd be precautious
13:35Speaker 1as much as you'd like. Like I know for a fact I've had
13:39Speaker 1a 100 mil bottles of backwater and I've used them for several months.
13:44Speaker 1And I know for a fact that
13:47Speaker 1the peptide was still working that I used. Yeah. So it depends. I mean, and it also like storage, the bacterial static water, yes, to keep it the best possible, it probably should be refrigerated.
13:58Speaker 1But then we worry about, but when you're putting it into the peptide,
14:02Speaker 1chances are you want to warm it up to room temp, right? For most peptides, it's fine entering cold water, but some peptides,
14:09Speaker 1as a general blanket statement, need to want warm water, not warm, but room temp water.
14:14Speaker 1So that's it. You do what you want with that information.
14:18Speaker 1Yeah.
14:19Speaker 1So yeah, yes. So 1 option is 1
14:22Speaker 1month, so buy 5 mil bottles, right? So that your 10 mil bottles that you know you will use in less than a month,
14:29Speaker 1and you'll be fine instead of buying a ginormous bottle that you'll use longer, that'll take longer in a month.
14:35Speaker 2Depends on your peptides. They don't know what you're taking. Yep.
14:38Speaker 1Just buy a little bottle. And then I guess the other questions,
14:42Speaker 1AOD, I guess I would rather,
14:45Speaker 1I think it'd be best to take it in 2 times a day rather than 1 big
14:49Speaker 1shot of 1000 micrograms or 1 mg of AOD. I'd rather take, have you take 2, 505
14:55Speaker 1hundred than 1000.
14:58Speaker 2But go ahead, finish the answers to that 1. Yeah, so that's like said perfectly. I like how you said that to where it's not to protect you, it's to protect the peptide. So I don't think a lot of people know that. I thought that was perfectly said. Here's my answer to what you said there, big big dog. You were running AOD for quite some time. Yeah. I love it. I've said it numerous times. It's in my top 5. I think it's great. I don't think it's great alone. I think it needs to be stacked with other peptides. You don't talk about anything else.
15:25Speaker 1So
15:26Speaker 2I
15:27Speaker 2would pull that for now,
15:30Speaker 2put it on the shelf for a bit and you can replace it with other peptides that are equally
15:35Speaker 2as good in my opinion, like SLU-PP-three
15:38Speaker 232,
15:39Speaker 2which is an exercise mimetic 5 amine and 1MQ.
15:42Speaker 2And you didn't answer or
15:45Speaker 2let us know if you are on TRT.
15:47Speaker 2So
15:48Speaker 2you don't really say your age, so that kind of plays a role with that. So hormone replacement, as you know, plays a big role in how good the peptides work.
15:57Speaker 2So a little bit vague in regards to some of the questioning, but I would pull the AOD for a bit and replace it with either SLU-PP-332
16:06Speaker 2or 5Amino-1MQ.
16:08Speaker 2There's other ones that are equally as good, but those 2 would do good to replace.
16:14Speaker 1I would agree. 13, 14 weeks is it's time to stop, give it a break and do something different. For sure. All right.
16:23Speaker 2Morning, gentlemen. Thank you all for being awesome. My question is regarding
16:28Speaker 2PNC-27.
16:30Speaker 2Have you come across any studies or personal knowledge on if PNC-27can
16:36Speaker 2be ran as a proactive
16:39Speaker 2protocol
16:40Speaker 2if 1 is unaware if they have active cancer or not.
16:44Speaker 2I have not been able to find much on this, but from what I've read, looks like it would only target the bad cells
16:52Speaker 2if they exist. Just curious on your opinions.
16:56Speaker 1Go ahead. Well,
16:59Speaker 2the question from my
17:01Speaker 2reading of it, so are you just trying to prevent cancer? Is that your objective?
17:07Speaker 2I'm going to probably take a left on to a different answer than I think Will might.
17:13Speaker 2I'm going to tell you that
17:15Speaker 2anybody that falls into my channels is going to know what I'm hugely into and I love it and will never stop, which is going to be fasting.
17:22Speaker 2I've read a lot about fasting and different how
17:26Speaker 2long, short fasting, water fasting,
17:29Speaker 2dry fasting.
17:30Speaker 2They all have a purpose.
17:32Speaker 2If you are somebody that has cancer in your family, I would recommend you do a lot of fasting.
17:37Speaker 2Cancer thrives on glucose
17:40Speaker 2and glucose
17:41Speaker 2is what you want to kind of starve. So if you are somebody that does a lot of fasting,
17:48Speaker 2if it's something that you want to kill off dead cells
17:51Speaker 2you know, and replace them with brand new cells, which some peptides can help with that, you can do that with fasting. It's called autophagy. If you reach the 16 hour mark alone,
18:01Speaker 2that's when the autophagy really
18:03Speaker 2kicks in from 16 to 24. If you do a 24 fast alone,
18:07Speaker 2there's a huge amount of autophagy where those dead cells will be washed away and brand new ones take their place. No joke, if you're somebody that fasts a lot, you actually start to look younger because you are replaced with brand new cells often. No joke. So that would be my take on We Are So Programmed, and I know this is a Peptide podcast,
18:26Speaker 2but it's also a health and nutrition podcast.
18:29Speaker 2And we are huge into that ourselves and we've tried it all and we love it all and we've studied a lot cause we're super intrigued by it. And I'm going to go that route fast, do a lot. You should be fasting if you are somebody that has it in your family, if you're worried about it, I would start there and I bet you'll have huge benefits and it's freaking awesome. It's been around since ever because it works. So what'd you got? You might have a different answer on that 1. Well, I thought that you were gonna say, if we're taking this
18:56Speaker 1proactively
18:57Speaker 1because you don't have cancer,
18:59Speaker 1I think that the fundamental thing- Think it. The more you think about not wanting to have cancer, the probably more you're gonna attract you having cancer. Sure.
19:08Speaker 1I'll attract. Yeah.
19:10Speaker 1I actually I do believe in I believe in that. It just seems to it seems to happen all the time. So I don't know. Have a have a different mindset, but I don't really know. You know, you may absolutely have everybody in your family,
19:20Speaker 1that's cancer, and so that this is a legitimate worry. But if it's if there is no legitimate worry, then I would not worry about it. I think you're healthy or not. But
19:29Speaker 1this the PNC-twenty 7, you haven't found a lot of data because there isn't a Okay? So
19:34Speaker 1take that for what it's worth and let's think that something like this that is
19:39Speaker 1the stakes are high.
19:41Speaker 1Big deal. It's a big deal, especially if you have cancer to throw your eggs in all in 1 basket and like, this is gonna heal me, right? Like, let's let's let the scientists do a little bit more research on it. But it is genuinely kind of really interesting of how it's supposed to work. So
19:56Speaker 1it is literally supposed to it's like a selective peptide that is
20:00Speaker 1apoptosis
20:02Speaker 1means like programmed cell death, okay? So it is selectively targeting this HDM2
20:09Speaker 1protein
20:10Speaker 1that is only
20:12Speaker 1there. It's overexpressed in cancer cells, okay,
20:15Speaker 1on their cell membrane. So it's here. This peptide is basically selectively programmed to go in and kill
20:22Speaker 1that,
20:23Speaker 1but only those, right? So if you do not have a malignant cancer in you, which it does not have this overexpressed cell,
20:30Speaker 1this PNC-twenty
20:31Speaker 17 will pass right through you, and nothing bad will happen at all. It won't kill any it won't kill any cells.
20:37Speaker 1But if you do have that 1 little protein that is overexpressed,
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21:12Speaker 1That is essentially the cancer.
21:14Speaker 1It should go in there and tell it to die. And how it tells it to die is actually really interesting. Like,
21:20Speaker 1basically, like, pokes holes in the cell,
21:23Speaker 1and that's a way oversimplification,
21:25Speaker 1but it kind of go in there and goes in there and just pokes punches a bunch of holes in that protein, and then it suddenly just dies off. So
21:33Speaker 1theoretically,
21:34Speaker 1like, if that worked,
21:36Speaker 1if PNC-twenty 7 was, like, proven to work every time exactly like I said Hell yeah. Do that. I know about it. Everybody would do it. Yeah. You know, it'd be a bajillion dollar drug, but they are I'm not saying it doesn't. There's just a whole lot more research that needs to happen. But that's theoretically what it's supposed to do.
21:53Speaker 1And
21:54Speaker 1no, but we don't again, we don't really know if there is some side effects, right? I would say, yeah, just do it. But I don't know. We don't really know if it actually does that exactly
22:04Speaker 1right now and to what extent and if anybody has just slight genetic variations, like what it's gonna do with them, etcetera. So,
22:13Speaker 1yeah, that's all I have. That's all I can give you. True that. Okay.
22:18Speaker 1Next question. Sorry, folks. I'm reading them off my phone because my paper is broken.
22:23Speaker 1Okay. I hurt my back during warm ups 2 weeks ago. I hear warm ups. We would feel you, buddy. Yeah. I hurt myself more doing nothing, like noncontact injuries,
22:32Speaker 1sneezing, looking in the mirror. I'm like throwing my back up for 24
22:36Speaker 1hours, like, in the in the morning. I looked in the mirror and back went, nope. Yeah. Ground.
22:41Speaker 1Okay.
22:43Speaker 12 weeks ago, I took BPC-one hundred 57 and KPV.
22:46Speaker 1Now entering week 3, and I am taking
22:49Speaker 10.5
22:50Speaker 1Migs, 10 units daily of the Wolverine stack. The pain is really bad from 9PM
22:55Speaker 1until about 10AM. So that means all night long.
22:59Speaker 1Right?
23:00Speaker 1Then the pain goes away completely during the day as you're moving. That's odd.
23:05Speaker 1And
23:07Speaker 1I am rolling and using an acuball massage.
23:10Speaker 1Do you recommend that I add any other peptides or increase the amount?
23:14Speaker 1This has been a major setback and cannot wait to return to the gym full strength. Okay, so me being experienced and having tons of injuries,
23:22Speaker 1you know, I hurt my back. We don't I don't it it all depends on what you did. Like, let's say if you strained a muscle back there or you pulled a muscle,
23:32Speaker 1then
23:35Speaker 1then you don't want to do the ackee ball and roll and you don't want to stretch, right? We don't really know. Now if you did that, then peptides can help that. They can heal those a bit more. Maybe
23:45Speaker 1it doesn't hurt because you're moving around a lot and it's warmed up.
23:50Speaker 1What if you slipped a Like
23:52Speaker 1the BPC
23:53Speaker 1and TB-five hundred, if you slipped a disc,
23:57Speaker 1isn't really gonna help at all. It may help to reduce some inflammation at the beginning, which causes a little bit less pain, but that's a structural issue and it just no peptides are going to like push
24:07Speaker 1the disc back in between the vertebrates perfectly, right? So it's not gonna happen. Yeah.
24:13Speaker 1So honestly, like, I have no idea what you did. Yeah. We'd need or I would I would like a more of a diagnosis of like actually what is happening because there's a 100 different things that could have happened. I don't know.
24:25Speaker 2It's interesting that it only hurts at night when you're laying down. You said something that was, I think, spot on is if he's moving throughout the day, there's blood flow. When he's at night, he's sleeping, he's tired, he's chilling. So I think that has a big part of Yeah. And
24:39Speaker 1like, gotta, and follow that based on, we don't know really what it is or what, mean, I guess if you were here in front of me, I'd ask you a bunch of questions, but
24:48Speaker 1I don't know, dude. I think that if I were to ask so let's say it's a it's a tissue injury. Let's say it's a tendon ligament issue. Okay? That is really, really, really what BPC is targeting, is gonna help with. Okay?
25:02Speaker 1And it's an acute injury, right? This is like debilitating. It sounds like I would increase that dose to 1 mg instead of 0.5 a milligram. At least. Okay. At the very, at least. Right. He's right.
25:12Speaker 1Of each, you know, 1 mg of each.
25:15Speaker 1And then I would do that. Hell, I'd probably go more. I'd probably go like 2 2 mg for at least 2 weeks and then back it down to 1 mg, kind of a loading phase
25:24Speaker 1and then a maintenance phase after that. But until it's gone, do that for 60 days, 60 to 90 days. And if it is not, like, healed by then, give it a break for a week or 2, and then do it again. Yep.
25:37Speaker 1Just remember folks, if we've
25:40Speaker 1pulled or strained a muscle or or or or ligament,
25:44Speaker 1you do not wanna stretch it or work it out with an acu ball. Right? The whole problem is that that that tissue got pulled too far.
25:52Speaker 1Stretching pulls it just aggravates
25:55Speaker 1that. Right? It does it just needs to be fucking left alone. Just let it fucking chill and heal.
26:01Speaker 1I don't know.
26:02Speaker 2It's all I got. Mean, it's a vague question, so and that's not to knock on you. I mean, the better that you kind of explain it. So if it's a disc,
26:10Speaker 2and I'm gonna, I get asked this all the time because people know I had the surgery. If it's a disc, I'm gonna be straightforward, which I am with everybody. Just get the damn surgery. I waited a year
26:18Speaker 2trying to not have another surgery, and I wish I would've done it a year prior. 2
26:22Speaker 2weeks after the surgery, I've been like, I'm back to myself.
26:26Speaker 1Now,
26:27Speaker 2like Will said, if it's not a disc, if it's not a nerve that you're dealing with,
26:33Speaker 2you're taking very little.
26:36Speaker 2A lot of people ask me, you know, how much should they take? It depends on the injury, but how much can you afford on this actual Wolverine? Because you can take a shitload,
26:45Speaker 2which you can, and I think you should. Now I'm not saying a whole bottle, like after my surgery, but you can take a lot of this and it will expedite the healing in in in our opinion. Now if it's a bigger injury,
26:58Speaker 2add in some TB 500, some extra TB because that's gonna, like, move through you a little bit better. It's a little bit more powerful where the the BPC is gonna go right to that injury where the BP the TB will travel and have a little bit of a health heftier punch to fix.
27:13Speaker 2But again, I know I'm being redundant, but you didn't really tell us what you're dealing with, man, so it's a hard 1. But definitely up the dose if it's not a,
27:20Speaker 2nerve or a,
27:23Speaker 2disc.
27:24Speaker 2Of that doubt, that 0.5 ain't nothing, man. Yeah.
27:28Speaker 2So it sounds like you're in pain. Yeah. You
27:31Speaker 1got it.
27:33Speaker 2Love listening to the podcast. Gentlemen, I'm
27:36Speaker 237 year old male. I've lost 25 pounds of fat and gained 30 pounds of muscle
27:41Speaker 2in 6 months on the carnivore diet,
27:44Speaker 2resistance training
27:46Speaker 25 to 7 days a week and taking HCG,
27:50Speaker 2Retta, Clo, Tesa, Ipamorelin stack. I also have swapped out Clo,
27:56Speaker 2Tessa, Ipah for Wolverine,
27:58Speaker 2MOTS-3P-332
28:01Speaker 2stacking
28:02Speaker 2the weeks off Tesa Ipah. Went from 20% body fat to 12%. Is there a recommendation
28:08Speaker 2to help tighten up the little bit of saggy skin in belly region since losing fat?
28:14Speaker 2Would SNAP-eight
28:15Speaker 2help, or what are your suggestions,
28:18Speaker 2if any? Thanks guys for the advice,
28:21Speaker 2for the help.
28:23Speaker 1What do think? Okay, so 1st of all, SNAP-eight, I don't think so SNAP-eight is like Botox
28:28Speaker 1kind of in a peptide and more of a topical thing. And
28:32Speaker 1Botox is a neurotoxin,
28:33Speaker 1right? And basically it works and so SNAP-eight also works by relaxing
28:39Speaker 1where you put it, and therefore that's not gonna then we're gonna reduce the wrinkle lines because
28:46Speaker 1you can't
28:47Speaker 1move that flesh as much. Okay? So
28:50Speaker 1SNAP-8s come the wrong,
28:53Speaker 1is the wrong kind of pathway mechanism
28:55Speaker 1for this. I think that GHKCU
28:58Speaker 1is your best bet. Right? What you were looking for is like collagen
29:02Speaker 1remodeling,
29:04Speaker 1and that's gonna be the number 1 thing. You're trying to, yes, have create more collagen and then actually grow the skin back together. So frankly, like, GHKCu
29:15Speaker 1injected right into the spot.
29:17Speaker 1I would act I would still put the GHKCu
29:19Speaker 1Dan Snap 8 serum,
29:21Speaker 1like, on that spot, on the whole belly area. And then frankly, either the growth HGH secretagogue
29:28Speaker 1peptides or HGH itself.
29:30Speaker 1K? That stuff's really, really gonna help.
29:34Speaker 2Yeah. That's
29:36Speaker 2what I would do. And by the way, you've kicked ass. Like, good job, dude. You've done some amazing, made some amazing progress. Love
29:42Speaker 2it. That's impressive. That was cool. You kind of got my answer, so we obviously agree on that. He said the serum, which I agree. I think it's great. And then GHKCu,
29:51Speaker 2absolutely. I'm surprised you're not taking that. I know you're taking the close, so you do got that in there, but I would take the actual GHKCU.
29:58Speaker 2Yeah, man, I would go with the HGH,
30:00Speaker 2man. You're reaching that
30:02Speaker 2age where
30:03Speaker 2most men, in my opinion, should be on small dose of HGH and you do not talk about testosterone
30:09Speaker 2replacement.
30:10Speaker 2So that
30:11Speaker 2is a big piece of this puzzle.
30:14Speaker 2Obviously,
30:15Speaker 2your blood work done 1st to see if you need it, but
30:19Speaker 2my experience is you probably do,
30:21Speaker 2just running a lot of men's blood work. So if you're not on testosterone and you haven't got your blood work, I would definitely get that done just to know where you're at. If your numbers are great, cool, man. If you're kicking butt, it's just pretty rare these days, unfortunately. So that will be the granddaddy of
30:38Speaker 2all of this.
30:39Speaker 2And then I'm going to be redundant.
30:41Speaker 2You do the carnivores, so you maybe either fall on me or maybe you just like the carnivores. So carnivores are great.
30:48Speaker 2I've learned a lot about it more recently and I'm going to change my carnivores structure up.
30:53Speaker 2Also my fasting structure,
30:55Speaker 2in
30:57Speaker 2the last few months and some gut problems that I've gone through, lack of sleep problems that I've gone through have
31:03Speaker 2generated
31:04Speaker 2me studying stuff
31:06Speaker 2again that I thought I kind of knew, but
31:09Speaker 2I've done it for so long and the science adjusts.
31:12Speaker 2It gets better and it changes the fasting protocols,
31:15Speaker 2Even from the guys that I've learned from that I really respect, they are doing things very different. Some of the carnivore people are doing stuff different. And so I think carnivore is good within like a few months at a time, break, a few months at a time, That's very different. And the fasting,
31:31Speaker 2a lot of people think that you shouldn't do
31:34Speaker 2as much fasting
31:35Speaker 2as I like to do, but for you, would at least add some fasting in because that will help in fasting
31:42Speaker 2and carnivore
31:43Speaker 2are like brothers, man. They worked so well in tandem. They're both were great separate, but together because the carnivore diet, you cut out all sugar and it kicks butt. And then when you add in fasting,
31:56Speaker 2you burn a lot of fat too. So I think just doing that as well in the serum and the GHK-seventy you'll kick some butt.
32:03Speaker 1Nice. All right.
32:06Speaker 1Next 1. Hi there. I love you guys' podcasts. I've been listening
32:09Speaker 1to it for a few weeks and started my own research shortly after being prescribed tirzepatide.
32:15Speaker 1I listened to multiple shows daily while working on my own business. I also I'm also in recovery since 2019, so I find you guys inspiring
32:24Speaker 1with your journey. Right on.
32:27Speaker 1I have a couple of questions for you,
32:29Speaker 1for your q and a, and I haven't heard yet. So 1, for flying across the country for 2 weeks, how would you bring your peptides, or would you leave them home? I have a prescription for some, but not all of them. Timeline is November of this year, 2026.
32:43Speaker 1Number 2 is my mom is struggling to want to eat on tirzepatide
32:47Speaker 1a month into her journey, and I'm thinking she would do better on Retta. If this was you guys, would you wait 14 days at last,
32:56Speaker 1at least, Tirzepatide
32:57Speaker 114
32:59Speaker 1days after the last Tirzepatide
33:01Speaker 1shot before starting Retta or switch at the 7 day mark,
33:05Speaker 1for a weekly
33:07Speaker 1shot? Thank you so much for what you guys are doing. You guys are inspiring and proof that we don't have to be stuck in life even after addiction.
33:15Speaker 1Yeah. Keep on elevating. We do recover.
33:19Speaker 1Standing away. So yeah. Good for all of you people who've been in recovery. It's not a it's not an easy thing.
33:26Speaker 1Okay. So 1st of all, I guess the traveling thing, what I do, what I have done is I will bring dude, I've brought
33:35Speaker 1BUTL-3s everywhere I go. I always check a bag because I just hate being that person that walks into the airplane with a giant bag and then like- You're like that too. You go, Hey, dude, I hate Oh, dude, there's a- I'm not fighting for space in this thing, dude. Hell no. I'll wait 10 minutes. Like, I'll wait 10 minutes for the fucking carousel. It's all good. And I'd rather just count for trouble light. You don't wanna carry a bunch of shit. I can't
33:57Speaker 1stand Yeah.
33:59Speaker 1Fucking hate those people. Sorry.
34:02Speaker 1Yeah. So anyway, I put it in my carry on and I've never ever, ever, ever had a problem. You mean checked? Checked bags, excuse me, on my checked bags. If
34:12Speaker 1that's what I would do, dude, and I would bring it and I wouldn't, but I would use they have peptide carrying cases. In fact, we have 1. We sell 1, frankly,
34:19Speaker 1right there.
34:21Speaker 1And
34:22Speaker 1it grab that thing, dude. Let me
34:26Speaker 1so the whole point is it has it's insulated.
34:30Speaker 1It's got ice packs in there.
34:32Speaker 1It's got little pouches.
34:34Speaker 1Patches for your pup. These things are, like, FDA approved too. So they know what's going on.
34:42Speaker 1Know, and I would put that in your I would put that in your, also, your checked Yeah. Bag. But but I guess I would probably take your peptides unmixed. If you're gonna be there for 2 weeks, just based on what you have, I don't know what it is. Whatever it is that you need to take, you be the judge.
34:57Speaker 1If you can use it in 2 weeks, great, don't mix it. If you're just gonna finish it, bring 1 that you're finishing.
35:03Speaker 1I don't think that, especially in this, either way, it doesn't matter, dude. It can be refrigerated there and back. It doesn't matter. Yeah.
35:09Speaker 1So there's answer 1. Number answer 2, I'm not sure if I understand. Maybe, dude, you can help me. So the his mother is struggling
35:17Speaker 1with eating. Does that mean she is she
35:20Speaker 1is not eating at all? How much she's taking? But she wants to be eating? Yeah. She's not eating enough, probably. She's not eating enough. Okay. So
35:29Speaker 1that is that happen then then, yes, you're right. Retta is a better option. Yeah. Tirzepatide is a even though it's maybe not making her, like, overtly nauseous,
35:39Speaker 1it still is triggering that nausea, which is why it's taking her appetite away, okay, which is a side effect of the drug, not the intention of the drug.
35:46Speaker 1So
35:47Speaker 1Retta beautifully takes away all of that. So all it's going to do is make you not look for
35:55Speaker 1dopamine spikes
35:57Speaker 1from food so that can help maybe reduce this kind of cravings and food noise, but it also slows gastric emptying. So when you do eat, you get full fast, but it doesn't take away your appetite like tirzepatide dose. So I would absolutely switch and I would not wait 14 days. I would know. I would just go right into it, and you could be at the same dose. Their dosing is basically the same.
36:18Speaker 1If you wanna be a little cautious, maybe when you do start the Retta, maybe go, I don't know, scale back
36:23Speaker 1slightly,
36:24Speaker 1like 0.5 a milligram from what you were taking, tirzepatide.
36:27Speaker 1I don't know, I mean, if you wanna be cautious, don't think that's necessary at all. Yeah. Because the only thing we're worried about is the nausea and
36:33Speaker 1Reta is like, is is has so much anti nausea that that's not a thing.
36:39Speaker 1So I wouldn't wait 14 days. Nope. I would just go, hey, whenever your next shot, let's do it. I also, we always have suggested to do, I think dosing more frequently is a better idea. 3 times a week. I like better than once a week,
36:52Speaker 1but it's up to you. I know people who've got good results both ways.
36:56Speaker 1Frankly, like it works either way. Just a matter of how. No right or wrong. Yeah.
37:01Speaker 2It's perfect. I,
37:03Speaker 2In regards
37:05Speaker 2to the flying, have flown, like Will said, countless times and I've flown with
37:10Speaker 2the bottles mixed because I fly to Mexico all the time, unmixed and not even in 1 of these. And I'm telling you, you're good. Yeah. You're good for hours.
37:19Speaker 2Everybody stresses on that, but I can tell you that they've been fine.
37:23Speaker 2If you can get 1 of those, obviously, like Will said, I had to catch up to that. It took me a while, but if you can afford it and it works for you, I don't mix my peptides until I get there. And that always works well. And generally, I try to use them
37:37Speaker 2all in the week that I'm generally gone, and
37:40Speaker 2then I don't really bring them back.
37:42Speaker 2Some I do, some I don't, but that works. Like he said, I think the most important thing out of all this is check your back.
37:50Speaker 2Have, if nobody cares, the peptides are not illegal.
37:54Speaker 2Syringes might get you held up and like, it's not about you're gonna get in trouble or in handcuffs.
37:59Speaker 2You're gonna get stopped. When I'm trying to travel, I don't wanna get stopped. I don't want them to open my bag and ask me about syringes. Yeah. Just check them. I've done it umpteenth times and never had a problem once. Yeah.
38:09Speaker 2Like he said, in regards to the Retta, definitely go to the Retta.
38:14Speaker 2I've seen, and I'm actually curious if you're gonna agree with this, what I've seen when the Tirz is prescribed,
38:20Speaker 2they are prescribing heavy doses of Tirz. 15 Migs for people that I'm like, dude, you're on 15 Migs of that? Because then they did the 1 shot and I'm like, oh my gosh, well, that's why you haven't eaten.
38:33Speaker 2You're taking way too much.
38:35Speaker 2Less is more. So your mom's probably taking too much. You don't tell us how much.
38:39Speaker 2Back it out, start the Retin Now, kick Retrutide
38:42Speaker 1to the curb and start slow. You can always go. Yeah. And she's been doing it for 1 month. She's taking it anywhere close to 15 mg, find a new doctor. Or 12. Crazy. Said, wait. The starting dose is 2.5 mg.
38:56Speaker 1And really, the the, like, active 0.5 life is 5 days. So if you're doing it every 7 days, your blood, like, plasma levels is, like, 0.5 of the concentration that it should be for it to be effective.
39:07Speaker 1And so
39:09Speaker 1don't do that, like, more frequently,
39:12Speaker 1honest
39:12Speaker 1almost like especially with the tirzepatide. But I would take a look at your dose. He's right. Like it and let's say maybe maybe what you're saying, maybe we understood this wrong and you said that she's still hungry and has still has an appetite.
39:26Speaker 1If that's the case,
39:28Speaker 1then Ret is probably not the right move. But also what she shouldn't be looking for is this to take away her appetite, right? That's the wrong mindset. You do not it's the the the right way to do this and to have these things these drugs affect you is for them not to just remove all of your appetite. Surely to want the goal. Okay. Struggling to want to eat. Right.
39:49Speaker 1So That's just appetite for you. Yep.
39:52Speaker 2Enough said there. Hope that helps. All right. All right. Hi,
39:56Speaker 2I love your show. I'm 66 year old retired
39:59Speaker 2San Francisco fire department, firefighter,
40:02Speaker 2and five'six,
40:04Speaker 2124
40:05Speaker 2pounds on HRT
40:07Speaker 2in training for a bike century in a few weeks and have trouble with sleep. There's brain fog and I have been working on
40:16Speaker 2with Cerebrolysin
40:17Speaker 2and BPC. I've mastered my sleep hygiene,
40:21Speaker 2tried DSIP for 8 weeks, no changes. My deep sleep is what appears to be lacking
40:27Speaker 2at 15 to 40 minutes tops. Dang.
40:30Speaker 2What would you recommend to help me heal my brain and improve my whole body recovery? Ordered Epitalon
40:36Speaker 2and I appreciate your advice
40:38Speaker 2on using that too. I can take this. Yeah. So I
40:43Speaker 2know what you're talking about, man. I dealt with this. It sucked. I dealt with it for
40:48Speaker 2jeez, man, I wasn't sleeping for like a year. I was like getting 3, maybe 4 hours of sleep for
40:53Speaker 2a long time and it didn't really affect me. I've always done well on
40:58Speaker 2low sleep until it didn't, until it just caught up to me to where it basically knocked me on my ass. And what happens with me researching a lot of it, like I did because I was trying to figure it out,
41:09Speaker 2cortisol
41:10Speaker 2is a bitch.
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41:57Speaker 2If you are not sleeping, your cortisol
42:00Speaker 2is spiked and cortisol is just a beast, man. It'll mess you up. You will hold fat. You can hold fat in your belly because it is a protection mechanism.
42:10Speaker 2So you don't want doesn't sound like that's happening to you, but it will, happen to me. So I'm gonna give you some advice that someone gave to me from this show. No joke. It was rad. I've used it and it worked immediately.
42:22Speaker 2So here's the protocol. And who, if you're listening, who gave me this, I wish I had that DM still.
42:28Speaker 2Thank you. I'm still doing it. My wife just ordered my 2nd round.
42:32Speaker 2Here it is. Magnesium
42:34Speaker 2glycinate,
42:36Speaker 2glycine,
42:37Speaker 2ashwagandha,
42:39Speaker 2and a time release melatonin.
42:41Speaker 26 hour time release or something like that.
42:44Speaker 2I take it every night and,
42:46Speaker 2it has just worked freaking wonders. I am very, I've always gotten up at 4. I'm super crazy about my time frames, but I'm so behind on sleep that I've allowed myself to sleep until 6 sometimes. I look in the the lights out in the window. I'm like, so it has worked wonders for me. So there you go, man. I would try that and
43:07Speaker 2then go to Epitalon. I'd 1st try to fix your sleep
43:11Speaker 2and I'm telling you, will do you wonders, my brother.
43:15Speaker 1Yeah, I think the Epitalon
43:17Speaker 1is,
43:19Speaker 1there's actual evidence that will help like in line, align your circadian rhythm. So I think that is a good call and do what he said, but also I would take I would do the Epitalon,
43:31Speaker 1because that actually is going to that actually might help your sleep and help your, you know, your slow wave sleep. Nervous as well. Also,
43:39Speaker 1I'm surprised that DSIP did nothing to you at all. I don't know how much you were taking, but,
43:46Speaker 1I don't know, 0.5 a milligram, milligram. I generally take a milligram,
43:50Speaker 1take a 2 mg.
43:52Speaker 1But maybe like
43:54Speaker 1so NAD, Methylene Blue for to ward off the brain fog. So, yes, you are a 100% right that, like,
44:02Speaker 1brain fog could be caused by lack of sleep, an actual restful sleep for sure. So 2 fronts, but maybe also so try to let's let's attack it by getting better sleep,
44:11Speaker 1but also
44:12Speaker 1by actually taking maybe something like methylene blue and NAD to to
44:17Speaker 1decrease the actual brain fog.
44:19Speaker 1That will help your brain work a little bit sharper and,
44:24Speaker 1yeah, you might just really, really like it. Plus, it'll be very helpful for you as an endurance athlete. Yeah.
44:30Speaker 1And, you know, you're, like, if you're training for this
44:34Speaker 1for this bike ride, which is super long, you know, you are
44:38Speaker 1wearing your body out. So no worry, no wonder. I think Semax made me another thing to increase your like BDNF.
44:46Speaker 1You're beating yourself up. Make sure you're replenishing, giving and eating enough food, right? So like storing
44:53Speaker 1everything, or of course you're going have brain fog, right? Your body's using every last bit of energy. It has to train and then to try to recover and just didn't have enough energy to recover your brain and body. Yeah. So
45:05Speaker 1all of those, I think are really good suggestions.
45:07Speaker 21 last thing that I read, and it was very interesting because these things are rad. There's
45:12Speaker 2something about obviously our connection to the world, to the universe. However, 1 wants to look at it and, grounding is what I read. I thought that was interesting. Take your shoes off and just walk in the grass, stand by a tree, hug a tree. I know that sounds weird. Mhmm. That's supposed to reset your circadian rhythm. I found that interesting, so I was willing to try whatever. And I did, hugged a couple trees.
45:33Speaker 2This is what works. Good for you.
45:35Speaker 1Alright. Last 1. Man, really appreciate not last 1. Man, really appreciate what you guys are doing.
45:41Speaker 1Great to see that there are people out there that are concerned about about your health and not their wallet. May,
45:48Speaker 1okay. Yeah. May the Lord bless your future endeavors. I'm 48 year old and I'm currently on TRT 150
45:55Speaker 1megs a week, which I split into 3 doses.
45:59Speaker 1HGH 1 IU daily, 3 mgs of Reta split into 3 days,
46:04Speaker 1MOTS-3s
46:05Speaker 1split into 3 days, NAD 500 mgs, 3 days a week, Tessa 5 units nightly HCG,
46:12Speaker 1500 micrograms
46:14Speaker 1or micrograms
46:16Speaker 1times 2 a week. Maybe I use GHKCu
46:20Speaker 1nightly and I weigh 214
46:25Speaker 1pounds. Started at 2 26 2 months ago. My goal is 200 pounds by summer.
46:31Speaker 1You think I'm taking too many peptides?
46:34Speaker 1Dude, no. Actually, I don't think that is like reckless. I think that it's
46:39Speaker 1dense,
46:40Speaker 1but not reckless and not too many.
46:45Speaker 1Frankly,
46:47Speaker 1you know, I don't see other than
46:49Speaker 1the HGH
46:51Speaker 1and the I'm actually even okay with you doing the Tessa nightly on top of the HGH because just
46:57Speaker 1Tessa alone, my thought is that you're probably just going for the belly fat
47:01Speaker 1burning and
47:02Speaker 1that is what Tesla will
47:05Speaker 1produce. So you're
47:06Speaker 1letting HGH do its HGH thing.
47:09Speaker 1If anything,
47:10Speaker 1frankly, you know, there's some things that you could bump up,
47:14Speaker 1but nothing is redundant.
47:16Speaker 1I like the MOTS-1C and NAD-500NAD
47:19Speaker 1together.
47:21Speaker 1I guess, me why the HCG, is it just to try to increase your natural
47:28Speaker 1testosterone
47:28Speaker 1while you're on TRT?
47:30Speaker 1You're on a low dose of TRT. So,
47:33Speaker 1but the HCG ain't bad. It might not 3 be helpful, but it sure isn't going to hurt Probably to
47:39Speaker 2keep this test.
47:41Speaker 1Exactly.
47:42Speaker 1So I don't know, dude. Everything's great. I think that I always like to pair SS-31MUTC,
47:47Speaker 1but
47:50Speaker 1shit, you're not taking, you're not taking too many. I think you keep, are, you are losing weight. Correct, the correct timeline,
47:56Speaker 1the way that it's supposed to be done. All right.
48:00Speaker 1Just keep rolling and just don't, you just can't take this exact same thing forever. Right? We got to switch it up, have a plan for what happens when you need to take a break from most of this stuff.
48:10Speaker 2Yeah.
48:11Speaker 2I don't have much to add. The only thing that I could say is you could pull the Tesla because there's, you know, some viewpoints that the
48:19Speaker 2secretagogue at night doesn't do as much,
48:23Speaker 2know, like as Will said, if you're going for that, this girl fat, that will help. So that would be the only thing I could, you could pull out the Tessa and maybe save a few bucks, maybe bump the HGH to 2 IU. Uh-huh. That would be the only thing that I could change. Other than that, no, I don't think it's taking too much. I think it's a great stack. MOTS-9C, NAD, those are amazing.
48:42Speaker 2HCG,
48:43Speaker 2yeah, I'm gonna take that and then, yeah, you're good, man. I would just maybe pull out the test and go up on the HGH.
48:48Speaker 1HGH is just better, dude. Yeah. When it's time to switch some of these up, I guess think of just some options like AOD,
48:57Speaker 15 m, 1 MQ, add SLU-1.1
49:00Speaker 1Yep.
49:02Speaker 1Try those ones next.
49:04Speaker 1That's how rad it is that we can just take some out and replace. Yep. But there is a too many and, I, that my opinion has changed on that. I think that too many peptides can overload the system, but I don't think you're there, man. You're good. What we, yeah. And the too many is like, if we have, if we're taking multiple peptides that are, that are competing for the same pathway, that's what we really worry about. Right. It was not, it's just that it doesn't really mean it's like people overtraining like, oh, I trained every single day. Well, that's fine.
49:33Speaker 1If you,
49:34Speaker 1if what you are training every day is completely different than what you trained a week ago, right? If you do 1 muscle a day,
49:40Speaker 1that's fine. But if you're doing a full body workout
49:43Speaker 2every day, that's not helpful. It's just-0s): Even though, even so when do you recover, when you
49:49Speaker 2rest? So like you should take breaks from all of this stuff. Yeah. You what I mean? Yeah.
49:55Speaker 2You
49:57Speaker 1up? I think so. Are, I just read this. All right. So what's up warriors? 58
50:03Speaker 1year old.
50:04Speaker 2What's up Warriors? I've said thank for providing this platform along with the school community.
50:09Speaker 2I'm getting so much from both. Love it. It's awesome. And I truly appreciate what you're doing for us. My question,
50:16Speaker 2I'm looking to go on a cut, trying to lose 10 to 15 pounds and
50:22Speaker 24 to 5% body fat in the next 45 to 60 days.
50:27Speaker 2I'm a 50 year old man, five'ten, 2 18, and I'm around 15 to 16 body fat according to my
50:34Speaker 2Hume scale.
50:36Speaker 2I'm currently on TRT, 200 megs weekly broken up into 3 injections, 2 IU of HGH.
50:42Speaker 2I just started about a week ago,
50:44Speaker 220 units of AOD morning and night, MOTS- C NAD,
50:50Speaker 2daily and 5B amino-1MQ.
50:52Speaker 2I am looking to add some ANNOVAR and clombuterol,
50:56Speaker 2but want to get your thoughts on that protocol.
50:59Speaker 2I also take GLO
51:01Speaker 2and TA1.
51:02Speaker 2Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
51:06Speaker 2Just a shout out to your team and warrior makers. Are awesome. Appreciate you, man. You want me to run that 1? Yeah, please do.
51:13Speaker 2So 1st off,
51:15Speaker 2Anovar is great. I've ran it numerous times. I'm not gonna lie. I've done multiple
51:21Speaker 2different stacks. Generally, I'm a cutter, so I'm a cutter guy. Anovar is great. It's an oral.
51:27Speaker 2So,
51:28Speaker 2know, an oral is an oral. It's not like an injection, so it's going to go through your liver and whatnot,
51:33Speaker 2but it's the cleaner 1, right? Cleaner,
51:36Speaker 2Anabar is clean and it really gives you a hard,
51:38Speaker 2drier look for the most part. A lot of people think that it's a woman's,
51:44Speaker 2steroid and I disagree with that. I think the ANNOVAR is great.
51:48Speaker 2Clenbuterol is cool. I
51:51Speaker 2think these days, I was actually curious what you were gonna say on this, Will, is I think clenbuterol is great, but I think it might be a little bit outdated. Yeah. I don't think that he had Reta in there. So I think if you took out the clin and went with Reta, it would be night and day,
52:06Speaker 2because Reta is just cleaner than clenbuterol.
52:09Speaker 2Yeah.
52:10Speaker 2Clenbuterol ran for a cycle. Ain't gotta do that bad. Obviously, depending on how much you do.
52:15Speaker 2I've done it countless times.
52:18Speaker 2It's not really needed with peptides these days in my opinion. So my final take, Anabar, yes. I think it's great. If that's your objective, no judgment here. I would pull out the clambuterol and I would replace it with Retta.
52:31Speaker 1Other that, you know, clambuterol is kind of outdated. Like really the studies are showing like it's only,
52:37Speaker 1you know, maybe boosting your metabolism by an extra, like 2, 300 calories a day.
52:43Speaker 1If you ask me that ain't worth it for feeling hot and feeling weird. I don't like how it makes you feel.
52:48Speaker 1It's just not that great. Retta's, you're gonna be way, way, way more effective. Or other peptides.
52:54Speaker 1Or in the or some a lot of other peptides, right, without that super stimulant effect.
52:59Speaker 2High dose of SLUIP. Exactly. Yeah. There's 100 mg SLUIP that we've circled around at different times and that would be a matter of opinion.
53:07Speaker 2You heard Jay Campbell, if you listen, he's huge on it. So hundred Migs of SLU-3P would,
53:12Speaker 2probably do you better than the CLEN-two.
53:15Speaker 1Yep.
53:16Speaker 1Agreed. And I 2nd everything else. Animar isn't a woman's drug, but the deal is Animar is 1 of the most
53:23Speaker 1mild steroids and therefore
53:26Speaker 1women,
53:27Speaker 1it's like basically the only 1 that women
53:30Speaker 1I couldn't, I'm not going to say should take, but it's only the only ones that women can base can stand
53:35Speaker 1at a low dose and not take you too long.
53:38Speaker 1And it'll work really, really well. But it
53:42Speaker 1works for men. That's 50 to 100 mg. Some people love it. Some people don't people think it's fake because it takes them a while to work 3 and it's very, very mild. So it may just be working on somebody and they're like, Oh, this doesn't work.
53:54Speaker 1It was a good diet and just good protocols and whatnot. It works. But if you're blasting trend and, and JECA and a whole bunch of tests and you data ANNOVAR, you may not see the field of the ANNOVAR much. Yeah,
54:05Speaker 1probably not. But for this, for you dude, I think it'll work. For a grown male,
54:11Speaker 1I wouldn't take anything less than 50 megs a day. A 100%.
54:15Speaker 1Whitman, 5 megs max, like 2 weeks on, maybe a week on, week off, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off.
54:21Speaker 1Be very careful. Yeah.
54:23Speaker 2Yeah. All
54:25Speaker 2right.
54:27Speaker 1Now we're at this 1. I got confused because we have like 4 questions that are like, 8 year olds. Feel like they're all the same. Okay. 58 year old. What about
54:34Speaker 1adding HGH 2? Use in the am and Tessa in the evening.
54:38Speaker 1Lots of different views. Currently on 8 mgs of Reta, 2 mgs of Tesa nightlys, 750
54:44Speaker 1micrograms of Ipam,
54:47Speaker 1and a 100
54:48Speaker 1micrograms
54:49Speaker 1IGF-one LR3 cycle.
54:54Speaker 1Down 10%,
54:55Speaker 1body fat,
54:56Speaker 1less than greater than 10% body fat working well, but looking for long term plan is the best. Okay.
55:03Speaker 1So here is the yes, we've had this question before. So
55:08Speaker 1HGH,
55:09Speaker 1if you're taking HGH,
55:11Speaker 1okay, your
55:13Speaker 1body's natural HGH production starts in the pituitary, okay, in your brain. Your body goes, Hey, do I,
55:20Speaker 1could I make more? Do I have enough? Right? So these secretagogues
55:24Speaker 1like Tesamorelin,
55:25Speaker 1Ipamorelin,
55:26Speaker 1when you take them, that goes straight to the pituitary and says, well, Tesamorelin,
55:31Speaker 1Tesamorelin.
55:32Speaker 1Pituitary, hey, make more HGH.
55:34Speaker 1Well, if you're already on HGH,
55:37Speaker 1your
55:38Speaker 1pituitary will go, how much do I have? Nope. Nope. I already have a lot. I already have more than I probably should.
55:44Speaker 1Therefore, nope, I'm not gonna turn on and make more. Okay. So if you're on HGH and you take Tesamorelin,
55:51Speaker 1it's
55:52Speaker 1probably not going to do anything to your HG-2A
55:55Speaker 1natural
55:55Speaker 1HGH levels, but Tesamorelin
55:58Speaker 1does
55:59Speaker 1do other things. Okay. And that
56:02Speaker 1don't have anything to do with the pituitary. So it will help burn belly fat, right? And help burn
56:09Speaker 1visceral fat, which is fat around your organs, right? But help burn belly fat. It was actually studied and developed.
56:15Speaker 1So for AIDS patients, when they have this belly fat freezing
56:19Speaker 1disorder, which is like fatal,
56:22Speaker 1so it is actually targeting your belly fat and will work to do that, but it may not work to actually increase your growth hormone, but you already got the HGH for that. So I don't mind. So I think it's a great idea if that's what you're going for. That's why you'd want to take tests at night.
56:36Speaker 1HGH in the morning.
56:41Speaker 1That's all I got to say on that 1. Everything else looks good. Just, you know, be careful of your IGF-1L-3A
56:46Speaker 1100 micrograms.
56:47Speaker 1So maybe I corrected myself a few weeks back. I think I misspoke
56:52Speaker 1in 1 of these podcasts at some point. So you're like starting dose of IGF 100
56:57Speaker 1micrograms
56:59Speaker 1is,
57:01Speaker 1is about as high as you want to go.
57:03Speaker 1Okay.
57:04Speaker 1So
57:05Speaker 1we don't just don't do that for too long. Yeah. 4 weeks maybe.
57:09Speaker 2Yeah.
57:10Speaker 2That's it. I was curious if you can say that. So that's the only thing that I'm saying. I mean, if you're taking the HGH
57:16Speaker 2Tessa at night, IGF-one, I think that's just overload in my opinion. I think you could pull out the IGF-one.
57:22Speaker 2I mean, it also depends on your objectives and I'm going to just kind of back out that 8 megs of Retta.
57:28Speaker 2Are you on testosterone 1st and foremost? You're 58, so I would hope so.
57:32Speaker 2Secondly,
57:35Speaker 28 megs of Retta is quite a bit, you know, I think that going a little bit less is going to do more. I know we are so programmed to think we need to do more. I'm not, I'd speak to myself as well, but I would try to back that down and start going down and,
57:52Speaker 2you know, people we respect, whether you believe them or not, or we believe them or not, like Jay Campbell is somebody that talks about it as really low dose. Like that's what nobody needs, whether you believe that or not. I don't know. I just think you can go down on the Retta, save a few bucks. Also,
58:09Speaker 2think it'll work better over the long term.
58:12Speaker 2Take out the IGF-one. I think the HGH, the only question I have, my friend is
58:17Speaker 2TRT.
58:18Speaker 2I hope that you are on TRT
58:20Speaker 2because you're looking for the long term
58:23Speaker 2And ultimately,
58:25Speaker 2are your objectives?
58:27Speaker 2Take out the Retta, try some SLU-3s, try some 5 Amino-1MQ
58:30Speaker 2or
58:31Speaker 2AOD instead of the IGF-one
58:34Speaker 2because you're trying to burn fat. I think you'll do better with that.
58:38Speaker 1Did I answer that? Yeah.
58:40Speaker 2Rock and roll. My man. 2nd
58:42Speaker 2to last 1. 2nd last 1. Hello, I'm 23 year old, 6 foot, 2 15 pounds, starting my fitness journey in February. Wow. And went from 2 40 to 115
58:53Speaker 2in 2 months. Boom.
58:55Speaker 2I'm currently running Retta, 3 megs, great. A week,
58:59Speaker 2Wolverine needed as needed and
59:02Speaker 2NAD,
59:03Speaker 2wondering if I should be using anything else. I run 3 days a week for training for a marathon
59:09Speaker 2and lift weights
59:11Speaker 2the remaining days of the week. Also, if this isn't too much, my dad has
59:16Speaker 2tendinitis in both of his heels,
59:19Speaker 2have been injecting Wolverine daily
59:21Speaker 2for the last 3 months. He says he doesn't think it's working,
59:25Speaker 2but it is an injury for the last 2 years, and I told him it takes time. Am I doing something wrong with his injections or is he just stubborn?
59:35Speaker 2A dose is 20 to 50 units on a 20 mg vial, 2 mil backwater.
59:43Speaker 1Interesting.
59:44Speaker 2You want to take that?
59:45Speaker 1So let me address the last part, I guess.
59:50Speaker 1Your father is older.
59:51Speaker 1Okay. If you're 23, your father's probably a little bit older than you. We can assume maybe above older than 50, 60. He's not healing naturally as well. He's had tendonitis in here for a long time, right? This is an old chronic injury, right? There's scar tissue
1:00:07Speaker 1and
1:00:09Speaker 1that, and maybe like, it's great that you're doing this. Would increase the dose, but like it's natural healing abilities. Probably give it up on him. It's good that you're starting this, but it's going to take some time. Also
1:00:19Speaker 1if they're in his heels, how active is he? Right? Because if you, I don't care how much, if you have tendonitis, I don't care how much BPC you inject into it. If you just then go out and just reinjure that tendonitis all day long,
1:00:34Speaker 1there's not going to heal you. So
1:00:37Speaker 1in your heels is tough because he needs to walk probably. So
1:00:41Speaker 1he's gonna need to do something to kind of immobilize that tendonitis. And are we talking to his Achilles?
1:00:48Speaker 1Probably.
1:00:49Speaker 1But he's going to, I don't know. I don't want him to be, if he's exacerbating
1:00:53Speaker 1this while you're injecting him with these things,
1:00:56Speaker 1it's not very helpful. So tell him, find a way to rest a bit more.
1:01:00Speaker 1If it's 200 to 500 micrograms for injection, I'd go way up, especially for him, like just
1:01:07Speaker 12 Migs daily, each heel. That's it.
1:01:10Speaker 1Minimum
1:01:11Speaker 12 Migs daily, each heel,
1:01:14Speaker 1do them in like, I would do that like in a month spurt. So I tell this people will notice like, hey, I've said different things because people are different. So,
1:01:21Speaker 1I would say for him, like he needs a heavy, heavy blast and to wake up those stem cells, tell things to heal right there because it's such a chronic old injury. 2 makes a day,
1:01:31Speaker 1both heels for a month, give it a week break. If it's not healed, do it again. Just repeat.
1:01:36Speaker 2Yeah.
1:01:38Speaker 1It'll work out and then have him rest too. 0 Sometimes nasty
1:01:43Speaker 2tendonitis in your elbow dude is I've had it sometimes where it's a bitch, man. And I've had a run.
1:01:49Speaker 2I've had a run. That was before we had the Wolverine, but I ran BPC for 20 days, didn't work. I had to run another 20 days, finally worked, but it did, it sucked too. But I had it so bad. So part
1:02:00Speaker 2of the game, man, that sucks
1:02:02Speaker 2In
1:02:03Speaker 2regards to the other stuff, currently running Retta, Wolverine,
1:02:07Speaker 2when needed NAD,
1:02:09Speaker 2should I be using anything else? You're 23, man. You're
1:02:13Speaker 2running pretty good.
1:02:14Speaker 2So I think the Retta 3 MiGs is perfect.
1:02:18Speaker 2I think less is more, focus on diet,
1:02:21Speaker 2focus on that type of stuff. Now, you can, once you've run NAD for, I think 1000 mg is what we suggest, you can pull that out and then maybe run an SS-thirty 1 and a MOTS C together,
1:02:33Speaker 2that would do well. And then you run those for a good,
1:02:38Speaker 2know, 2 months, give or take. Yeah. Pull that out and then go back to the NAD.
1:02:42Speaker 2And then for you, since you are a runner, I would, run SLU-PP-three
1:02:46Speaker 232. It's an exercise mimetic, and that's gonna give you some endurance. So I would would add that and it's not an injection. You could do a sub sublingual,
1:02:54Speaker 2so,
1:02:55Speaker 2I would add that into it for sure.
1:02:57Speaker 1Yeah. Or cartering if you wanna go next level for endurance. Yep. Cartering is great. Okay. As a 23 year old female who is on tirzepatide
1:03:06Speaker 1and the scale hasn't dropped in weeks. I'm currently taking 3 Migs weekly,
1:03:11Speaker 1workout, and watch my diet. Just added 0.75
1:03:14Speaker 1Migs of MOTSY a week to help with the weight loss and energy levels. Is there anything else you would add? Should I up the amount of Tirzepatide or switch to Retta?
1:03:22Speaker 1Alright. We think we should switch to Retta. Here's the thing. You plateaued, I may, I mean, I mean, I guess I'm assuming,
1:03:29Speaker 1well, you're 23.
1:03:31Speaker 1I would switch to Retta for sure. What we don't want you to do is like starve yourself. Okay. So you may have lost some weight at the beginning and now we've like eaued. Well, duh, cause you probably just didn't eat anything. Want to crash diet, burned a lot of your muscle off. Learn, you may have lost fat, but you lost muscle, which now dropped your metabolism to the floor. Right. And
1:03:51Speaker 1there's nowhere to go other than, well, you got to start eating some protein and start building some muscle back and that boosts your metabolism.
1:03:59Speaker 1So yeah, go with the Reta switch
1:04:02Speaker 1to the Reta,
1:04:03Speaker 1you know, you are 23, right? 23? No, that was the last guy. But no, she's too. Yeah. Okay. So you're in '23, so I don't want to throw a whole bunch of stuff at you. I think MOTS-1s) is, is great. Sloop would be another 1 for you to take.
1:04:19Speaker 1Even the AOD is totally fine. And you can take all of those at 1 time if you feel like it.
1:04:25Speaker 1As a woman, yeah, I would say just, yeah,
1:04:29Speaker 2do the Retta Switch to the Retta. Lift weights. Yeah, he said it too though. Lift weights. Protein. A lot of times when you're not eating enough, it does the opposite. So Tirzepatide is going to do that. Retta's, 2 times is going to be better because
1:04:42Speaker 2Will have said it before and I've always loved it when he said that because I've used it numerous times since, God gives us hunger
1:04:49Speaker 2pain for a reason. It does because we're supposed to eat. So like if you're doing Tirzepatide and not eating enough and women for some reason don't eat enough protein because they think they need salads and stuff. I'm not saying you. I'm saying women. Protein.
1:05:03Speaker 2Protein. Protein. Eat protein. So if you're not eating enough, at least get in the that protein. You'll probably see be see a difference just in that. And, yeah, Retta is just a better
1:05:11Speaker 2compound.
1:05:12Speaker 1You'll get hungry. You'll just get full quick. It just works better. Yep. You'll eat it'll force the small frequent meals, which is the right way to do it. And so you might get scared and be like, Oh shit, now I'm like hungry. This is, there's a problem.
1:05:26Speaker 1That's not a problem. That's actually good. We need to be eating small
1:05:30Speaker 1regular,
1:05:31Speaker 1but
1:05:32Speaker 1small meals. And that's what Reddit will do. So it will bring, you might have a little bit more hungry when you switch. That's okay. Chill, maybe use a little bit of willpower and,
1:05:42Speaker 1but focus on protein.
1:05:44Speaker 1True that. Agree. It'll work. You just stay the course, right? Just stay the course too. Takes time.
1:05:49Speaker 2Nothing happens overnight. Good stuff, man. Good Q and A.
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1:06:09Speaker 2Anything else?
1:06:11Speaker 2Nothing. Alright, we're gonna finish the day. You guys have an amazing day. We'll catch you next time for the pep day of the week. Yes, sir. Here we are.