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0:54Speaker 2Welcome
0:54Speaker 2back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. Cross the way, Mr. William T. Hass, ready to drop some knowledge on us. What's up, dude? Busy day.
1:07Speaker 1Always a busy day, man.
1:09Speaker 2What? 12 past 12? We never record past 12. Dearly 10.
1:14Speaker 1Busy is good though. Busy is good. It's a busy day.
1:17Speaker 1Yeah. I have a lot on my mind, I guess.
1:20Speaker 2A lot of my mind. So we're trying to focus. I was listening to you with, what's his name, the new guy.
1:25Speaker 2Kenzie?
1:27Speaker 2Will's good at that. He has patience. I'm not. I was thinking that, you you're just good at it, man. Like, I'm just a dude, I don't like explaining shit. Yeah, I don't like explaining stuff at all. But I guess I was, so I was raised by 2 school teachers,
1:41Speaker 1so that maybe helped. Yeah. Right? I, like, maybe I just have that in my genes to like teach.
1:47Speaker 1But
1:48Speaker 1as you get, I guess busier and own a business and get higher up and have more employees, I feel like all I'm doing is explaining
1:58Speaker 1how to do things,
1:59Speaker 1but which is a huge pain in the ass. Like it sucks because
2:04Speaker 1gosh, this is 10 times faster if I just do it. The problem is if I just keep doing it. And
2:10Speaker 1then now I have so many damn tasks that only I can just do and it's impossible to do all of those So
2:16Speaker 1you,
2:17Speaker 1it's a necessary evil, right? You got to train people to
2:22Speaker 1know how to do it. And I have the right people that are quick learners and he's a damn quick learner actually. Like he's impressive. And
2:30Speaker 1that's great when you teach somebody
2:33Speaker 1not even that thoroughly and then they nerdy know it. So it's like that too and Brandy, but like,
2:39Speaker 2Some
2:41Speaker 1people just get it. But yeah, I've been having to do a lot of that.
2:45Speaker 2Well, we've talked about it many times. It's hiring the right people is key to everything.
2:50Speaker 1Everything. We were at the beach this weekend and 1 of our good friends, my buddy's wife was like, oh, she's an accountant. She's like, oh, tell me about things,
2:58Speaker 1you know, what are you guys dealing with? And I was like, honestly,
3:02Speaker 1I don't want to. No.
3:04Speaker 1Answer is no. Like, I explain these things all day long and think about it. I don't want to explain it to you. I just don't want to talk about it.
3:14Speaker 1I'm just like, I understand. It's okay. Thank you. I do it every day. Yeah. I don't know. Shout out to people who, I saw I
3:21Speaker 1saw somebody who I used to play volleyball with when I was a single man and out there just like having fun in life,
3:27Speaker 1every weekend
3:28Speaker 1at this beach party that we went to. And he's like, hey man, I haven't seen him in a long, long time. He's like, I watch you and Jamie all every week. Right? I feel like I know you guys. He's like, man, you look at you. You've changed so much. Who was that? You got a girlfriend. You got a you got a girl. You're about to make your wife. Yes. Yes. Came up to me a few left. Super
3:47Speaker 1nice guys from Oklahoma. Yeah. Like a thick accent. Yeah. Yeah. So shout out to everybody who,
3:53Speaker 1yeah, everybody who watches and appreciates this. That's just, it is cool. And I guess if
3:59Speaker 1you see us around, like feel free to say hi.
4:02Speaker 2Guess. Super cool. I do. I like, yeah, it's nice. I was sound well, when this kind of started, because I was ahead of the curve. Had my
4:11Speaker 2channels and it was happening to me quite a bit and I'm all, it's coming, Just be ready. Everything started happening. Told you.
4:17Speaker 2Everybody's cool, man. Everybody's cool. That's for sure. Super cool, man. When people just know about you and they listen and like it's flattering and it's super cool, man. It's, know, just all kind of just happened. Here we are.
4:29Speaker 2But I was, I was talking with Liz. I, so Doctor. Scott, I've been, you know, dealing with the sleep thing, dealing with this, dealing with that. So Doctor. Scott, I've been working with him and he, ran some tests. This is kind of gross, but blood test obviously, which he dug in, which is, man, Scott just goes deep into that. I've never had a doctor go that deep. So was dope. And then I did for, there's no way to soft way to say this, the boob test. Fecal. Yeah. Fecal test. And it's gross. It was seriously gross,
4:56Speaker 2which would made it even worse as I sent it in and they never got it. So I had to do it again.
5:01Speaker 2And I was like, Bro, only me. Damn. But that stuff's crazy, dude. So anyways, long story short,
5:07Speaker 2he's working with fixing
5:08Speaker 2my gut. I've had some gut problems for
5:11Speaker 2ever. I think it was a Viking in that I used to eat like 50 Viking in back in the day, but I will do it to you. But I've had this, as you know, this autoimmune forever,
5:19Speaker 2forever, ever, ever. I'm just so freaking ready to just get rid of this son of a bitch. Thinks he can fix it. So he's got me on all these dude. Have this just
5:29Speaker 2box
5:30Speaker 2now of supplements
5:33Speaker 2taken morning and night. Just started taking it for the last 2 days.
5:37Speaker 2Yeah, it's a little weird, bro. You
5:39Speaker 2release toxins. So I'm like, I'm a little weird right now. I'm like, am I supposed to feel weird? He's all, yes. You're releasing toxins. I'm like, okay. Cause I feel like,
5:46Speaker 2so it's
5:48Speaker 2interesting because
5:49Speaker 2the reason I even bring this up is just
5:51Speaker 2it's important to do this stuff. You know what I mean? And like people that like he does that for a living. It's interesting.
5:58Speaker 2I've had numerous
6:00Speaker 2MDs think that they can fix it and they don't even come close. So
6:03Speaker 2give the holistic man.
6:06Speaker 2Give him the reins, baby. Let's see if he can do this man. Either way, it's going to reboot my gut and that would be great. So you're be taking lots of I remember 9 week
6:16Speaker 2course of what I'm doing.
6:18Speaker 1So we'll see. That's a good amount of time for the change that happened. I remember when I was a little kid watching ESPN or they did like this,
6:26Speaker 1they spotlighted spot lit,
6:29Speaker 1Bill Romanowski.
6:30Speaker 1And they're like, let's, you know, and he was a badass and obviously
6:34Speaker 1he liked his supplements. I'm not even gonna say like he was doing steroids because I mean, there's a point like people in the NFL, people don't understand this,
6:42Speaker 1but I've met plenty of people who are like, oh, you're NFL players. They're all on steroids guaranteed. Like none of them are on steroids guaranteed.
6:50Speaker 1You cannot play that athletic of a sport. Like baseball's about it, and now they're even testing there. But like the testing is so effing strict.
6:58Speaker 1Now they can take some other things, but they're not taking straight up anabolic steroids. Anyway, the whole point of this I brought up was they, they like covered Bill Roanosky, what do you eat today? Like this dude had like trays of pills. Really? Like this is breakfast, these 7 trays.
7:13Speaker 1This is my snack. This is my lunch.
7:17Speaker 2That's me now. Yeah. That's
7:19Speaker 1a lot. That's what it sounds like. Yeah.
7:21Speaker 2We'll see. Yeah. I'll keep you posted
7:24Speaker 1today. Listen, this is what we do. We love nutrition. We love it. I'm ready to dig in and fix it, baby. And the reason that none of them can be used in steroids is like, they're just running too much. Like it may make you really strong,
7:36Speaker 1but your connective tissues cannot,
7:39Speaker 1you will get injured. That's why like, you'll see all the big names who we knew were doing steroids in the NFL,
7:44Speaker 1got hurt. And in college,
7:47Speaker 1when the guy was running here when I was playing in college, they always got hurt. Always got hurt. They're gonna pull all the way, your muscles too strong for your tendons.
7:55Speaker 1Your endurance just cannot,
7:58Speaker 1you know? Yeah. You just can't do it for a long time.
8:01Speaker 2They definitely inject you with like cortisol,
8:04Speaker 2just crazy. And I had,
8:07Speaker 2Evan Britton on, he's an NFL star and he was telling me was kind of fun to just dig into just man. They, they just blast you. You're getting your ass on that field,
8:17Speaker 2are getting your ass on that field dude. Like, are shamed
8:20Speaker 2if you don't. Was like, wow, that's intense, man. But dude, you are at the top echelons of
8:27Speaker 2the top sport
8:30Speaker 1ever. I think football even outweighs soccer in every other country where soccer is a huge in other countries. Well, the, yeah, soccer wins. My wife, soccer wins universally. There's no hands down because guess what? Any kid from Ghana, no offense to Ghana, but like any 3rd world country that
8:47Speaker 1has no money, you can play soccer. What do you need? A ball. Yeah. You need a coconut basically kick around.
8:53Speaker 1Play football, need, you know, it takes money, right? You gotta organize that many people. You gotta buy them all pads. You gotta go organize all the plays. It's just a yeah. So, like, basketball, soccer is probably their university, but soccer, man. Let's put those guys make cash. And
9:07Speaker 1they make cash. But you're right. I mean, it's
9:10Speaker 1yeah. You're you're up at the very, very, very, very pinnacle and in in an NFL career is very short, dude. Yeah. And you wanna maximize it, but it's a business too. It's all business. Even going to college. Right? Right? Like, I would high school football was fun. Right? It was still a game. Next level. You go to college and you And the 1st my the 1st realization was, damn, okay. This is a business. Yeah. Coaches,
9:33Speaker 1this is their career. Yeah.
9:35Speaker 1They are yelling at you because this is their career and their whole family is on the line. Right? There's your high school coach.
9:41Speaker 1Yeah. He's a teacher. He don't really care. Like, he's the, you know, that Just get out there and enjoy yourselves. Do your best. You know? Yeah. It felt like, get your ass on that field, dude. No. I need you to feed my kids. Yeah. Right? That's just an And they're making millions of dollars. Yeah.
9:56Speaker 1So
9:57Speaker 2What was the statistic that
9:59Speaker 2by NFL players that go broke within 2 years? Yeah. Pretty crazy amount. Like, really high. It's like almost all.
10:06Speaker 2I mean, you know how to you don't know how to deal with money. You don't know how to deal with money. Kept making nothing. Good money in my early twenties and I had no clue about anything. No, absolutely. No. Next round, I was smart. I mean, I'm gonna invest this bitch. I started a company when I was 21 and then ended
10:24Speaker 1up selling it, well, being forced to sell it
10:27Speaker 1and had to sign, take a letter that says I'm banned from the industry. I had a drug problem, but like,
10:33Speaker 1absolutely.
10:34Speaker 1When I got when I 1st had a taste of money, because like growing up, I couldn't get Nike shoes. Right? It was always like, you know, but you gotta go to Payless Shoe Source. And so I always wanted things, but never could have them. And then when I finally started making my own money Yeah.
10:47Speaker 1At 1 point, I literally had 2 apartments,
10:50Speaker 1like a boat, an avalanche, Mercedes, 2 apartments for no fucking reason. No reason. Right? Just like buying out the bar when I'd go out. And,
10:58Speaker 1yeah, that was dumb and not right. But I didn't know how to, didn't know what I didn't know what the hell to do. Wasn't responsible. Was young too. Young people are dumb. Yeah, dude. So think about guys making 1 millions in their early And
11:12Speaker 1then they're
11:13Speaker 1serious money. Wasn't making like nothing close to millions. Like just buying like all these friends who say, yo,
11:19Speaker 1let me get some, right? Business. They don't realize taxes, right? They're taking 0.5 of their money. Yeah,
11:26Speaker 1so it makes sense. Same same thing, lotto ticket winners, right? They're like
11:32Speaker 1always broke because they don't know how to deal with it. This the mob had known this. They they have a saying, like, don't never make a poor man the boss.
11:40Speaker 1Right? Because the poor man, when he gets some money, he gets a little greedy and he wants to keep it and he does dumb things, and then he gets violent.
11:47Speaker 2That's true. So, yeah.
11:50Speaker 2Those mob guys know what's up, dude. Fuck. Yeah.
11:54Speaker 2Moms, I was from my mom was from Brooklyn, New York. Go ahead. Finale, down to finale. Cool, man. So today,
12:00Speaker 2my friends, it is a Q and A. It's, these are good questions. I thought they were great.
12:05Speaker 2So we're gonna enjoy this. Remember to jump on to school. School is growing.
12:11Speaker 2It's going well. People are loving it. So if you haven't joined our school platform,
12:17Speaker 2jump on there. There's been some great information,
12:20Speaker 2not just the stuff that we're posting,
12:23Speaker 2but just everybody's kind of posting. I posted something yesterday, kind of curious and it did well. I said, you know, here's our Will and I talk about our favorite compounds or what are your top 3? And so many people commented. I thought that was cool. And it's a wide range of stuff out there, man. There's people are educating themselves.
12:41Speaker 2You could even tell them some of questions they've changed and people are growing and it's a cool 1 experience, man. To those people who ask questions to me
12:52Speaker 1that are complex ones,
12:55Speaker 1I know, and I'm working on it.
12:59Speaker 1This has been, you know, it's been a few days since I've been asked like a few of these people and haven't got back to them. But yeah, they're coming, it's coming. Is a lot. And they're like, yeah.
13:09Speaker 1Like, yes, some loaded questions.
13:12Speaker 1And school is still like folks, we it is it is under construction. It's still there,
13:17Speaker 1but we are just just be patient as we're Upgrading it. Rebranding and upgrading. We got a lot of cool stuff to coming,
13:24Speaker 1including a whole new just private
13:27Speaker 1q and a forum
13:29Speaker 1section.
13:30Speaker 1Different
13:31Speaker 1different same platform, but like different actual,
13:34Speaker 1I don't know, ownership, actual plat different. Still made on school, but not the Pepatide of the Week school.
13:41Speaker 1It's gonna be dope and
13:43Speaker 1that's the spot to be. But yeah, more to come. Okay? Yeah, VIP, a little bit more correct access to us. We can't answer every single email. Yeah. No. It just would not, can do it. So Yeah. We're gonna call it like this, JD and Will VIP forum. Really original, but that's what it is.
14:00Speaker 1Make it very easy. We're trying to go with simple and,
14:03Speaker 1yeah, no fancy.
14:05Speaker 2Well, do this honors big dog. You're always the 1st 1.
14:10Speaker 1Am that's not the right 1. Hold on 1 2nd.
14:14Speaker 1Why do need to go here? Okay. Why the peptide companies, right? That's what we're talking about, right? Yep. Okay.
14:21Speaker 1Why are the peptide companies not testing for endotoxins,
14:24Speaker 1TFA,
14:25Speaker 1sterility,
14:26Speaker 1heavy metals, etcetera? They all mainly seem to focus on mass and purity. Interesting
14:31Speaker 1on your, interested in your take. Great question. Good question. Okay, so
14:37Speaker 1here is, I guess, you know, the main answer is just an economic answer. Okay. I know that like we,
14:46Speaker 1I guess, consult for some different companies and the way to go is here's here's the realistic thing.
14:52Speaker 1Let me do some math for you. Okay? So a basic,
14:58Speaker 1a basic test
14:59Speaker 1for just purity and content,
15:02Speaker 1average is about $200. Okay?
15:06Speaker 1A pepatide company that I know about is
15:10Speaker 1intimately is testing sends out samples, okay, to 3 independent labs,
15:15Speaker 1every sample,
15:16Speaker 1and,
15:17Speaker 1you know, starting from scratch and just going, alright, hey, let's revamp quality control, blah, blah, blah. We're sending out every single peptide, but to 3 different ones. So you got 75 peptides,
15:28Speaker 1right?
15:29Speaker 1Times
15:30Speaker 1$200 each.
15:32Speaker 1All right.
15:34Speaker 1Times 3 different spots. So there's $45,000
15:37Speaker 1for testing for your quality and purity testing. Now, if you do for the heavy metals and all the endotoxins, etcetera, it's about $600 a test. So 600 times 75
15:48Speaker 1times 3,
15:50Speaker 1looking at about $135,000
15:53Speaker 1to
15:55Speaker 1test basically 1 batch of every peptide. And that needs to be ongoing, right? Single new batch that you get in,
16:03Speaker 1you're doing it again.
16:05Speaker 1Times 3. Now, obviously that's the upfront initial expense and then it gets a little bit easier. But economically
16:11Speaker 1these research peptide companies,
16:13Speaker 1they do not have, they are not bound by
16:16Speaker 1all these regulations that force them to do all this stuff. Yep. This is why you
16:21Speaker 1get to buy these peptides. Cheap. Cheap.
16:24Speaker 1And I'm talking cheap, like fraction cheap compared to buying them,
16:28Speaker 1prescribed right from Eli Lilly. They are bound to do all of these CGMP
16:35Speaker 1testing procedures, and that is why you will be paying 15 times the price. So
16:42Speaker 1also,
16:43Speaker 1like, what really I don't know. You're not
16:46Speaker 1I have some doubts and personally, I guess maybe just because I'm a
16:50Speaker 1gym bro and I'd like put enough stuff in my body that,
16:54Speaker 1yeah, weigh the consequences on financial. Right? So basically, hey, if you don't if you want them if you want it cheap and a real good price and to do it, you just you can't complain.
17:03Speaker 1Beggars can't be choosers. Sure.
17:06Speaker 1Or you can pay 15 times as much. I personally
17:09Speaker 1yeah. Cool. I don't want my endotoxins to be just off the charts bad
17:14Speaker 1heavy metals, but man, you should see what the, like, acceptable level of arsenic is in a daily allotment for people. Right? And like what all their
17:22Speaker 1and people don't really know how to read these things. They don't really know, and it's too too much for me to kind of explain right now because we gotta talk about every single different compound and every single different heavy metal or potential toxin Yeah. And what the allowable limit is.
17:38Speaker 1Like, we we consume this stuff every day, breathing.
17:41Speaker 1I guarantee that you're like the Big Mac or like Coca Cola that you drink Doritos. Is in Doritos
17:48Speaker 1is way worse for you
17:51Speaker 1with all of that shit than
17:53Speaker 1doing a peptide that, you know,
17:55Speaker 1hasn't been tested. Now you
17:57Speaker 1shouldn't ever buy some stuff that hasn't been tested at all.
18:02Speaker 1What you will see, you're gonna see test companies more and more have these further and further expensive tests, right? As people are realizing like, yeah, peptides are great, they are working,
18:12Speaker 1and more money is going to come into this, right? Bigger money players who,
18:17Speaker 1so the standard is just going to go up and up and up and up. Which is good. It's great. It's just really good. But that, I mean, that's,
18:25Speaker 1that's the reason why. Okay. And
18:28Speaker 1hopefully
18:29Speaker 1they all get to this really high standard. Yeah. Right. And are somehow can keep costs down.
18:35Speaker 2Well, if you've heard the podcast with Jay Campbell, whether you believe it or not, but what he said is about 70%
18:42Speaker 2of those smaller research companies will be bye bye because they're not going to be able to do those types of testings. The ones that actually are literally like testing them properly
18:52Speaker 2are going to be the ones that kind of make it through. So whether that's true or not, we kind of think so. Which
18:59Speaker 2is good for you. I mean, yes, is the cost going to increase? A bit sure.
19:03Speaker 2But you're getting safe products and you're still going to get them a buttload cheaper than you're
19:09Speaker 2going to get them from those higher companies. So they'll still be cheaper. They will be tested. So there will be some type of regulation to a degree.
19:16Speaker 2It's a good thing. It's a good thing there. It's improving, man. You don't want to get it from John that has it out of his back of his truck because he got it from China for $16.
19:24Speaker 2That's great. You can literally find that. But the reason these companies pass the cost on to you is because they test them. He just went over the It costs a shitload of money to test these damn things, man. So that gets passed on to you. That's why the companies that charge a little bit more,
19:43Speaker 2charge a little bit more. Just test them. Simple
19:45Speaker 1math.
19:46Speaker 1Simple math. And also to add on to, like, yes, and I agree that he says, you know, 70 30% of the companies will still will be will remain because they have good quality control standards. But I also kind of agree with Jay, probably about 75 of the peptides out there in research websites
20:02Speaker 1are
20:05Speaker 1bunk. Like, you know, say they're 10 mg, but you're getting 4.5 mg or you're not getting any and you're getting something else. Right?
20:13Speaker 1So,
20:15Speaker 2yeah, this man's been in this game a long time,
20:18Speaker 2fellas and people.
20:19Speaker 2So he knows what he's talking about. He's just throwing away a lot of bones stuff. It got tested. It was not tested well. So if you company that didn't care,
20:29Speaker 2you would get 4 mg of
20:32Speaker 1Retrutide and you bought the 30 mg. Yeah. I gotta tell you, like a 100 plus suppliers I have purchased
20:38Speaker 1things off of and tested them all.
20:41Speaker 1And I would say, yeah, probably don't know. Honestly, to be honest, like Push your limits. Train with precision. See the results.
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21:15Speaker 1I'd say about 15 percent, 20 percent of those, like, were fully dosed and say what and what they were. Yeah. The other ones just threw away. And so the average Joe is going, Oh, well, I find a hack. And they're like, they found 1 of those hundreds buyers I bought bought
21:30Speaker 1it, they got it and they sold it. That's what they're putting on the website.
21:35Speaker 1Yeah, about 20% of it actually is on the news or even dosed,
21:39Speaker 1Not to even mention into toxins and minerals, etcetera. But
21:43Speaker 1that's what you're
21:45Speaker 1getting.
21:46Speaker 2That's
21:47Speaker 3why
21:48Speaker 2well said there. All right. Let's
21:51Speaker 2see here.
21:52Speaker 2Appreciate you guys. Many blessings and continued success. I was wondering if you all monitor IGF-one before taking IGF-1LR-three,
22:01Speaker 2When would your IGF-one be at a level where you would have concerns? Any other competing peptides you would
22:08Speaker 2be concerned taking if starting IGF-1LR3?
22:12Speaker 2Continuing
22:13Speaker 2to build muscle, cut fat, and I'm looking to add this to the stack.
22:18Speaker 2I'm just waiting for blood work to come back to get a baseline. I'm 53 years old male.
22:25Speaker 2Stack consists
22:26Speaker 2of
22:27Speaker 2HGH2
22:28Speaker 2IUs, TRT 175,
22:32Speaker 2Kisspeptin,
22:33Speaker 2AOD, CJC, Ipamorelin,
22:35Speaker 2NAD, MOTS-3JHK-3U.
22:38Speaker 2I'm a peptide lover.
22:41Speaker 2You go, dude. Only 1 I was kind of curious about was the Kisspeptin in there. I'd
22:48Speaker 2kick that out of the, out of there. If you're running TRT,
22:51Speaker 2probably don't need that. It's probably going to accuse your testosterone to the degree where you might have some issues. Speak with experience.
22:57Speaker 2Shut up my testosterone. It's getting gyno.
23:00Speaker 1What do you got? Well, yeah, so the Kisspeptin, here's the deal with that. Like we've talked about, and I, maybe I wasn't
23:06Speaker 1listening to what you just said. I'm sorry. But,
23:10Speaker 1so the Kisspeptin starts, so it is there to kind of increase,
23:15Speaker 1testicular action, right, on both of you like
23:18Speaker 1luteinizing hormone follicle stimulating.
23:21Speaker 1Yeah. So you're both your testes. Okay?
23:24Speaker 1It starts though where it naturally starts, which is in our brain with our pituitary. Okay? And the research tells us that if you are on TRT,
23:32Speaker 1okay, pituitary is basically,
23:34Speaker 1and therefore you have elevated testosterone levels. That means our pituitary
23:39Speaker 1is not listening.
23:40Speaker 1It will not be told to turn on because it goes, no, I already have enough testosterone.
23:46Speaker 1So
23:48Speaker 1Kisspeptin is essentially
23:50Speaker 1worthless if you're taking testosterone. Right. Because it won't do it. It won't it'll say, hey, Make some he goes, nope. I'm not doing it. I already have enough testosterone. We are good. So as opposed to HCG where it bypasses that loop and just starts here and just tells it to make tells testes to make more. Yeah. And it will do it.
24:09Speaker 1So that's what I guess stood out to me. The 1 thing I don't I can't give you an exact answer on what blood levels
24:18Speaker 1exactly to look for and make a determination if it's okay to take IGF-1LR3,
24:23Speaker 1right, or not, sorry. But you,
24:27Speaker 1I guess the 1 worry So taking HGH or a secretagog and IGF 1 is going to increase growth signaling. Okay? Taking both of those,
24:37Speaker 1great. It will increase growth signaling. All 3. Okay. Is he taking all 3? Yeah. HGH is secretagog and IGF-one. So too much. I think that that is too much. I think there
24:48Speaker 1there is too much of too much of the same thing competing for the same pathway. Absolutely. Okay.
24:55Speaker 1I
24:56Speaker 1would
24:57Speaker 1take something like,
24:59Speaker 1IGF-one
25:00Speaker 1and
25:02Speaker 1I would maybe choose 2, but just be don't don't do a whole bunch of those 2. Okay. So secretagogues
25:08Speaker 1plus
25:09Speaker 1IGF-one
25:11Speaker 1or HGH
25:12Speaker 1plus IGF-one.
25:14Speaker 1IGF-one
25:15Speaker 1would be the 1 that's would either make a choice of secretagogue or HGH.
25:19Speaker 1That's either or, and then you can add IGF-one,
25:22Speaker 1but don't do a ton of any of them. Yeah. Okay. You really don't want to just overdo it. Right? You will see, you know, like hypoglycemia
25:30Speaker 1edema,
25:31Speaker 1which is just water, excess water retention.
25:35Speaker 1Though that's a sign that we're doing too much and we need to back it off.
25:39Speaker 1But IGF-one is essentially the byproduct of HGH and secretagogues, right? But it's the byproduct that is the growth signaling. So,
25:46Speaker 1just giving yourself straight IGF-1LR-three
25:49Speaker 1is just telling your body just right now, boom, hey, let's grow your muscles
25:55Speaker 1without
25:56Speaker 1some of the natural loop that the secretagogs take,
25:59Speaker 1and not much of a natural loop that HGH takes. The HGH is gonna give you that IGF-one increase, but also the other side of it, which is essentially the metabolic side, is the fat burning side. It's a growth and fat burning.
26:12Speaker 1So be aware of that. I would cut yeah, I'd worry about just too much in the same pathway
26:17Speaker 1and everything else. And do that to think about that with other peptides everybody you're taking. Like, if you have 1, 2 peptides that do the same thing or compete for the same pathway because their mechanism
26:31Speaker 1is basically the same thing, let's just do
26:34Speaker 1Like, 1 of yeah, save some money. Do that for 90 days,
26:39Speaker 1get off that and then do that other 1. That
26:42Speaker 2would be my strategy. We totally get it. I mean, we totally get it. I've done it numerous times. I've taken boatloads of peptides, you know, like they're easy access for me. So why would I not? But like, as I grow and as I evolve and I learn, as I learn myself and how I feel, blah, blah, I
27:00Speaker 2think going slow and just easy literally is the best way to do it. You know, you have a lot of these peptides are great. Like you can do them in every 90 days, change it, change your cycle, change it around. SS-31Mod
27:12Speaker 2C and NAD, amazing. So use it for like 90 days, take a big break and then switch it up, try some Cmax, Cline, whatever. So you definitely obviously have the love for pet types,
27:22Speaker 2but just like us, just like everybody, we start to get so trained to take something when
27:27Speaker 2the baseline
27:29Speaker 2of everything
27:30Speaker 2is diet and exercise and sleep. And sleep. I've talked about my lack of sleep and it effed me up.
27:38Speaker 2I ran, you know, for about a year on 3 to 4 hours and I was running on adrenaline
27:43Speaker 2for a long time and it eventually caught up to me and whooped my ass. So I fixed it, you know, slowed the hell down and fixed it. And I felt great.
27:52Speaker 2Get your diet in line now. I'll pull out the IGF-one
27:55Speaker 2and the secretagogue,
27:57Speaker 2as you know, big fans of HGH here, got the TRT. I think MK-677,
28:03Speaker 2if you're trying to bulk up a bit, is way better than both the secretagogue and the IGF-one. I'm talking with experience. The only negative
28:10Speaker 2that people have is they eat a lot. If you can control the hunger, you're going to be fine.
28:15Speaker 2I truly compare MK-677
28:18Speaker 2to Anabar. Done them both.
28:21Speaker 2So it does give you that nice round
28:24Speaker 2looking
28:25Speaker 2fullness when you lift.
28:27Speaker 2So if that's what you're looking for, MK-six 77 is your guy. Again, as long as you don't have a problem eating too much where a lot of people have.
28:35Speaker 2But other than that, I would pull out. You definitely don't want to do all 3. You're doing the AOD-two, but that's not going to increase your
28:41Speaker 2IGF-one.
28:43Speaker 2But yeah, I would go a little bit slower, man, and just focus on your diet, focus on your sleep and make
28:49Speaker 2sure that those things are prime too, and generally stay in a pocket of about 4 peptides.
28:55Speaker 2I really think that's a really good space
28:58Speaker 2and then switch it up every few months.
29:00Speaker 1Try the IGF-one, but just don't try out all 3. Yeah. And on that 1 go like 8 weeks max. Yeah. Like starting at a 100,
29:09Speaker 1I'd
29:10Speaker 1prefer post workout and always eat a little carbs with it. JD likes to pre workout, get a bigger pump pre workout for sure, especially with little carbs. I think post workout, you're getting a little bit more muscle actual development because
29:22Speaker 1it's the biggest thing, it's a nutrient partitioner, right? So it is just gonna every nutrient you eat is just gonna suck right in to where your body's asking it for. So post workout, your muscles are sponges. Just give me food. I need to rebuild because you just tore me down. It'll suck it back up. But also, again,
29:38Speaker 1after a big meal, if like, if you want to
29:41Speaker 1pig out and,
29:44Speaker 1not have it show due to my GF-one, okay, then then eat a whole bunch. You're gonna wake up in the morning like stomach just flacks. All of those calories, all that food just sucked up into your muscles. Yeah. Nutrients. That is that's if you are an active person and those muscles are getting regular exercise.
30:00Speaker 1That's the only way that nutrients
30:01Speaker 1could will be told to go into the muscles, by the way. Yeah.
30:05Speaker 1Also,
30:06Speaker 1we've done this before, but those of you when it when JD says MK-677
30:10Speaker 1is like Anovar, those of you who say, what the hell?
30:13Speaker 1That's a straight bulker. What's he talking about? Anovar is a cutter. I think that that's from his perspective because he eats so damn well. Like if he took DeCA, it'll also Yeah. He'll stay lean. Right? So
30:26Speaker 1those of you who, if you take MK-six 77, you have a little bit different genetics
30:30Speaker 1and you also cannot control your eating. That's a problem. You might not keep you. You might not be lean. Okay. That can be a problem. Yep. Just so just to put that out there. Good.
30:42Speaker 1Alright. Next 1. You're up. Okay. Hi. Love the,
30:46Speaker 1I love you guys. Thank you. My question is I'm a 50 year old female who had a total hysterectomy with bilateral
30:54Speaker 1salpingectomy
30:56Speaker 1a year ago. Sorry.
30:58Speaker 1Think I'm entering perimenopause
31:00Speaker 1and the insomnia.
31:02Speaker 1Hot flashes and night sweats are torturous.
31:05Speaker 1I've looked into Kisspeptin, but having a hysterectomy,
31:08Speaker 1I'm not sure if Kisspeptin
31:10Speaker 1would help. Thoughts?
31:11Speaker 1I think you're probably right.
31:14Speaker 1So your hysterectomy
31:17Speaker 1should involve, like, removing an ovary,
31:21Speaker 1and
31:22Speaker 1that is
31:23Speaker 1where a lot of those hormones that you're missing,
31:27Speaker 1are being created. But also
31:30Speaker 1estrogen,
31:31Speaker 1like you're
31:32Speaker 1I think that you're losing some estrogen somehow.
31:35Speaker 1I just don't think that you have the tools inside of you anymore for Kisspeptin to actually work good. Pituitary, tell things, tell, you know, can tell the ovaries to start making some different hormones, but but they're
31:48Speaker 1just not capable.
31:50Speaker 1For you, I would look at direct hormones.
31:53Speaker 1I was wondering if you're going go there. That's what I would at. Absolutely. Just like
31:57Speaker 1doctor, 100% direct hormones.
32:00Speaker 1I just don't think your body isn't, doesn't have the exact capability to do it right after
32:05Speaker 1that. 50.
32:07Speaker 1Yep. So, and mostly just because of that hysterectomy,
32:10Speaker 1because of the surgery, because of that.
32:12Speaker 1So yeah, like, like actually, you know, this is a question that needs to be detailed.
32:18Speaker 1Look at your, talk to your doctor. Okay. Because there is an, explanation
32:23Speaker 1for all, there's a couple explanations for all these symptoms.
32:26Speaker 1And we don't know. Nobody knows until we, until you actually do the test to figure it out. Yeah. I think it's very simple. Get blood work.
32:35Speaker 1Start there. It's to answer that without seeing your blood work. Have a really good doctor. We can connect you with that would go deep into your blood work and probably can give you some really good answers and some, some potential outcomes. He might make you do a poop test. Nobody
32:51Speaker 2does. He cares. And that's
32:53Speaker 2important to us. And that's why we promote certain people. You know, I won't put Will into this when I say this, I'm not huge on Western medicine, but I do have a few out there that do care
33:03Speaker 2because they do truly care. And when they're trying to really help and we're complicated,
33:08Speaker 2dude. I'm freaking almost 50 years old, man. And I put my body through some hell,
33:14Speaker 2know, with the drug abuse and all that stuff.
33:16Speaker 2You know, even though I've been sober for 15 years, there's residual,
33:20Speaker 2you know, that stuff comes back around. I'm telling you, I'm going through some of it.
33:25Speaker 2But we can all age well. And it all starts with blood work. It all starts with doing some things we don't want to do, like poop tests and all that stuff.
33:32Speaker 2When we get to the bottom of whatever it is affecting us, we can fix it. But we got to know 1st, we got to run tests.
33:40Speaker 1As that.
33:41Speaker 2All right. Sure. All right. Hello. A 57 year old female dealing with a 50 pounds post menopause weight gain.
33:48Speaker 2Bummer.
33:49Speaker 2Goal is to look and stay as youthful as possible.
33:54Speaker 2Join the club. I'm currently on CJC-twelve
33:57Speaker 295, Vipamorelin,
33:59Speaker 2GHK-
34:00Speaker 2CU Wolverine,
34:02Speaker 2and KPV almost 4 months. This go around added
34:06Speaker 2MOTS-3C
34:07Speaker 2few weeks ago and experienced ravenous hunger. Well, I'm
34:12Speaker 2seriously considering dropping the CJC and going for the HGH.
34:15Speaker 2Will it hurt myself in the long run if I have to come off the HGH at some point in the future at my age, what do I have to lose? Need reassurance
34:25Speaker 2of the safety of HGH.
34:27Speaker 2Can't do GLPs
34:29Speaker 2at all. Hoping this will help me reach my goals to lose weight and look younger.
34:35Speaker 2I'm consistent with the gym and macros, but not seeing a lot of results
34:40Speaker 2for my efforts. Pre menopause
34:42Speaker 2weight was stable and I carried good muscle on
34:46Speaker 25 4 frame for the efforts. Thanks guys. Enjoying being a part of your community. Right. So 57 year old female,
34:54Speaker 250 pounds post menopause.
34:55Speaker 1So I think the 1st of all, just like, Hey, the MOTSY cool
35:00Speaker 1MOTSY can boost is going to boost your metabolism. Guess your body wants after it burns calories, it wants food. So
35:06Speaker 1it could be that, Hey, but, but, but it could be that maybe the CJC Ipah is just starting to work. Okay. It take these things, all these peptides just take a little while and take a couple of weeks to start really kicking in. Who knows you may just have started them at C and like,
35:20Speaker 1even though it's CJC up into long enough, and then now it's really starting to, yeah, kick things into gear and that's what's causing the hunger because it is a growth hormone secretagogue.
35:30Speaker 1Also telling your body to grow, body needs food to grow.
35:33Speaker 1So
35:35Speaker 1keep that in mind.
35:36Speaker 1The HGH,
35:38Speaker 1I am not going to give you a confirmation and guarantees that there will be no problems
35:44Speaker 1ever from HGH.
35:46Speaker 1Right? That's,
35:48Speaker 1That would be untruthful.
35:50Speaker 1But
35:51Speaker 1I think that,
35:52Speaker 1so at a low dose of HGH,
35:56Speaker 1after
35:57Speaker 1long term use, the
35:59Speaker 1biggest problem is I think is while you're using it is going a little too much or
36:05Speaker 1heck, if you're sensitive to like higher blood sugars or
36:11Speaker 1dimming down your insulin sensitivity,
36:13Speaker 1that's the bigger risk. I'm not really, I don't think it's going to, when you get off it now your body won't know how to make HGH.
36:21Speaker 1I
36:22Speaker 1think as far as on that
36:24Speaker 1tip,
36:25Speaker 1you're going to be about where your body would naturally be if you never did HGH as far as your natural HGH levels. Okay. It is not really, it doesn't work the same way like a testosterone. If somebody's on testosterone for 5 years,
36:40Speaker 1right. And then they stop
36:42Speaker 1absolutely
36:43Speaker 1their body and their nuts are going to be like, oh crap, I got to start. I got used to not having to make so much. Now we got to restart the factory
36:51Speaker 1and it's going to take a little while.
36:54Speaker 1HGH,
36:56Speaker 1it can work like that if you abuse it, but taking it in the morning,
37:01Speaker 1and not very much, it's not you're not gonna have this, like, let down. Okay? I think that you'll take it and your body will be making the normal amount of HGH that it always
37:09Speaker 1should be making at your age, which is not much,
37:13Speaker 1not enough to make you happy probably.
37:15Speaker 1So
37:16Speaker 1I don't think there's an extra bad there's not you have to worry about problems
37:21Speaker 1being caused when coming off. I just would
37:24Speaker 1rather not come off because it will be better if you do not come off, but I don't think it's causing extra problems when you do come off. Yeah. That makes sense?
37:33Speaker 1In lots of words.
37:35Speaker 1Sorry.
37:38Speaker 1Yeah. What else you got? Well,
37:41Speaker 2I was curious when you said you couldn't take the GLP-1s.
37:44Speaker 2You didn't really say why. I wish you did.
37:46Speaker 2You know, gaining 50 pounds sucks for anybody. So I think HGH is great. You're 57. I think most people over 40 do
37:54Speaker 2well with it at a low dose. I do think at low dose for women is different. It's a little bit different. 1 IU, I think that will do wonders. We've talked about it numerous times. It's going to take a while for that to even hit its stride. You might feel a little tired at 1st because
38:07Speaker 2HGH can do that to you, but once it hits, man, it's great. I love it. It's, I've said it countless times. It's up there close to the TRT
38:15Speaker 2with me now. You ladies going through the menopause stuff, it's a bummer, man. It's part of life though. You know, I mean, there's,
38:23Speaker 2when it comes to peptides,
38:26Speaker 2you know, there's a lot of peptides that are going to help with a lot of that stuff. What are some of the issues women have with menopause? Brain fog, weight gain,
38:34Speaker 2moodiness,
38:36Speaker 2thinning hair, sex drive decreases,
38:38Speaker 2dry skin.
38:40Speaker 2So if you just slow down and think of that, you can combat that with certain peptides. And I'm not saying you throw the book at it, but you could, you can combat these brain fog. You can talk with, give you some cellular energy NAD,
38:55Speaker 2SS-31MoTC.
38:58Speaker 2When it comes to weight gain, I would tell you, Retatrutide,
39:01Speaker 2you said you can't take a GLP-one, but you can try like Tesofensine
39:04Speaker 2That might work for you.
39:06Speaker 2When it comes to moodiness,
39:08Speaker 2Cmax,
39:10Speaker 2Selank,
39:11Speaker 2both,
39:12Speaker 2you can run both of those together. I think they work well. Obviously, the intimacy and the dryness down below is the infamous PT-one hundred 41.
39:21Speaker 2And then the dry skin and hair and all that, we all know it's GHK-
39:25Speaker 2or
39:26Speaker 2just take the CLO
39:28Speaker 2with KPV
39:29Speaker 2and the Wolverine and the TB-five 100. That's just such a perfect product for older women that are going through this types of things. Now that's
39:38Speaker 2a lot of products. I'm not saying take it all, but you could, you know, I generally just said take maybe 4,
39:43Speaker 2but you're going through a big change in life.
39:46Speaker 2And if you're fighting with your husband and yelling at him and you don't know why,
39:50Speaker 2and these things can help with that, why not fix it? Probably not his fault. He's a dick.
39:55Speaker 2Your husband's a dick.
39:59Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, that's it. So those things are, you know, we have a menopause protocol.
40:05Speaker 2So I know we've done that 1. It comes up so much. I would say for women, the TRT and the menopause are just obviously
40:11Speaker 2the top 2.
40:13Speaker 2And that will help with that stuff. Again, I wish I knew why you can't take the GOPs,
40:19Speaker 2but Retatrutide is obviously going to be the king to help bring down that weight. But again, Tesofensine.
40:25Speaker 1Yeah, I was about to 2nd that, about to say like, yo, I doubled down on the idea of Tesofensine when in doubt, when, when, when unable to do any of the GLPs, Tesofensine isn't is 2nd best.
40:36Speaker 1They say that it combats Retatrutide in regards to the food noise. Do you feel that?
40:41Speaker 1Yes.
40:42Speaker 2Yeah.
40:43Speaker 1It's not like I don't want to eat, but it absolutely
40:46Speaker 1get it. The food noise is that is the pleasure spike you get from food.
40:52Speaker 1For me, it absolutely kills the need for sugar. No way. Yeah.
40:57Speaker 2That's interesting. So I don't even know if I've been told Will this.
41:02Speaker 2You know, we grow from this channel. We talk about these things so much and in a lot of conversations
41:07Speaker 2just really intrigued me to like think through things a little bit differently. And Tesofensine
41:12Speaker 2was something that we talked about. We did a podcast
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41:45Speaker 2Actually, it's the 1 podcast that got taken down on YouTube. We don't know why. Weird.
41:49Speaker 2So, anyways,
41:50Speaker 2a lot of you might have not seen it if you watch on YouTube, but, if you watch on the podcast, it's a good 1. Go check it out. We did a deep dive and Will and I had discussed it and he loves it. I hated it.
42:01Speaker 2So I realized that I didn't give it a fair shake. So as I got off peptides in the last month or so,
42:07Speaker 2that was the 1 I tried and I freaking actually told you I loved it. I obviously,
42:12Speaker 2whenever I felt when I was in Cancun was probably not the test of fancy. Now here's what I don't feel. I don't get any food noise blockage. I still have been craving sugar.
42:23Speaker 2Said yeast in my stomach because I have a yeast problem. So
42:27Speaker 2you crave sugar. I've been craving sugar like a son of a bitch lately. He says, that's it. So
42:32Speaker 2I'm not on Retta. I have been on Tesofensine.
42:35Speaker 2Here's what I love about it. I feel like it gives me energy.
42:38Speaker 2I take it right when I wake up.
42:41Speaker 2And by
42:42Speaker 2the time the coffee's done, I feel like I'm already awake because I have 0.5 cup of coffee and then I do my readings and I'm just ready. So
42:49Speaker 2I've been taking it a month and I've been loving it, but I don't feel the food noise blocking. How much are you taking? Just 1 pill. So 50 was that 50? Try to take 2. So your, I think that those are
43:01Speaker 1either 2 50 micrograms or 5 I'm
43:04Speaker 2trying to remember what, but
43:06Speaker 1people can take up to 1000.
43:08Speaker 1I take 2 pills a day and yeah, absolutely. It's the energy. Here's the thing with the food, the sugar, like I am so used to eating
43:17Speaker 1ice cream, like every night, like a little pint of ice cream. Okay, guys. I just did that forever years.
43:23Speaker 1And my body got used to it. Didn't really add any fat or do anything bad. Sorry. But
43:27Speaker 1500
43:28Speaker 1micrograms a pill. Okay. So
43:32Speaker 1I, when I take the way I started taking this,
43:35Speaker 1my brain just out of habit, I was like, okay, it's time for the ice cream. Right? And it wasn't necessarily like wanting it, but this is, well, I bet I will And want
43:43Speaker 1then when I take a bite,
43:45Speaker 1it just is like, okay,
43:48Speaker 1that's ice cream.
43:49Speaker 1It's not that special.
43:51Speaker 1Like before, it was like, damn, like, that just, like, gave me a huge
43:55Speaker 1dopamine spike. And this time, it doesn't and so, like, I would throw away 0.5 of the ice cream and then just stop buying them.
44:04Speaker 1So it was more out of habit, but it absolutely, I don't know. Yeah, it helped a lot. And energy, the biggest thing is energy. Like I just don't feel like, I don't feel like taking a nap. Yep. And it's because it's getting you energy, but it's also boosting your dopamine and happy,
44:17Speaker 1yet energized.
44:18Speaker 1Yep. And I don't know. I personally want to take naps when I'm like depressed.
44:23Speaker 1And I don't say like, I get like fully depressed, but there are times where I get moods that where I'm like, not
44:28Speaker 1happy.
44:30Speaker 1But when I'm motivated about something, I don't care how little sleep I got. I'm not tired. Yeah, right. So that's kind of the way it makes me feel. Like, damn, dude, I'm looking forward thing to things,
44:41Speaker 1even if there's not a lot to look forward to,
44:44Speaker 1well, there usually is a lot to look forward to, but yeah, the energy and just happiness,
44:50Speaker 1which
44:51Speaker 1makes you want to be like, be awake and keep doing things. I get it. I get it. It works. Think it's fucking awesome. I stand corrected.
44:59Speaker 1Last person
45:01Speaker 1I would think about maybe switching to CJC and go to take Tessa. Definitely. Ipah.
45:06Speaker 1Because your goal is fat loss. And especially at your age and all these things like the belly fat is that's where it's accumulating 1st and the Tesa is going to really attack that.
45:16Speaker 2I'd switch over to that for sure. Yeah. So those are some options that'll help you with some of that menopausal stuff and shoot.
45:23Speaker 2We've had women that have tried it and it's worked. I
45:26Speaker 1think you're up. I'm up.
45:29Speaker 1Hey guys,
45:30Speaker 1thanks for all you do. Wondering if you could clarify to the best of your knowledge, the amount of time peptides last before mixed
45:37Speaker 1and also after
45:39Speaker 1reconstituted,
45:40Speaker 1which is mixed. There is no such
45:42Speaker 1there's so much conflicting and misinformation out there. Would love any updates that you have also for HGH.
45:48Speaker 1Also, this is also
45:51Speaker 1is the storage of the peptides before reconstituted.
45:55Speaker 1I know pieces of this have been covered in the past, but I just even recently heard from a reputable source that a mixed peptide only lasts 30 days, which I know is not accurate and wouldn't fall in line with dosage guidelines
46:06Speaker 1of the peptide. So I think it might be worth reviewing again with any updated information
46:10Speaker 1that you have.
46:14Speaker 2Interesting. I
46:16Speaker 2don't think anybody knows exactly. I think anybody that says that they know, they don't know.
46:21Speaker 2It's 1 numerous peptides. Some are delicate, some are not so delicate.
46:25Speaker 2Some can
46:26Speaker 2be out of the fridge and some cannot. So you can't bulk it together and say peptides and like it's just like this is how it works.
46:33Speaker 2I think
46:35Speaker 2I kind of know your answer, but I think we both have changed as we've grown and changed. I'm going to tell you that generally speaking,
46:42Speaker 2we just kind of bulk them together, a general rule of thumb, in my opinion, would be 6 to 8 weeks
46:48Speaker 2ish.
46:49Speaker 2And that is going to be structured based upon different peptides like Tesamorelin.
46:54Speaker 2We've learned a lot about that little son of a bitch dude. Like, you know, like if you watch pep podcasts from a year ago, we changed a lot because we've grown, we've
47:02Speaker 2seen hundreds and hundreds of people take these compounds. So we've grown too. So Tesamorelin is in itself, it's changed quite a bit. You can leave it out of the fridge. We would've never thought that a year ago, but that's what you learn because a lot of people have problems with it. So again, I don't know if anybody knows exactly. My take is 6 to 8 weeks. That's a good rule of thumb. I think that you'll see in some literature that,
47:29Speaker 1you know, yeah, 4 weeks I've seen that also, but I don't know, primary, like actual, like practical
47:35Speaker 1use and application has proven to me that
47:39Speaker 1that is not the case. Right? I think it, I don't know. I don't want to just re explain everything he just said because I agree with basically all of it.
47:47Speaker 11st of all, but it also, what matters hugely is the solvent that you mix with it. So
47:54Speaker 1there's a couple of different things like, A, it's like sterile water, right? Hey, people want to mix sterile water. There's a huge difference between sterile water and like bacterial static water. Okay. Sterile water is used for only like a single use medication because it has no alcohol in there and nothing to kill or ward off bacteria. Sure. Okay? So that's, you use sterile water only if you're going to mix something and then do the whole thing right now. Right?
48:19Speaker 1Because bacteriostatic
48:20Speaker 1water, you put it in there, it's got a little bit of the benzyl alcohol in there. That's to help kill off any bacteria. And the bacteria is not to keep you, the peptide user safe, right? It's not like, oh, okay, good. I'll put this bacteriostatic water. So I won't get a little infection. It is there
48:37Speaker 1to keep your peptide safe from
48:39Speaker 1microscopic bacteria that will get in there and degrade it and eat it and degrade it
48:45Speaker 1away. Okay. So
48:47Speaker 1then obviously then you got some things. I think that's a huge distinction. Okay.
48:52Speaker 1AOD water has
48:54Speaker 1benzyl alcohol in it, right? The no sting water has benzyl alcohol in it. So there's, those are no better or no worse, but you just better use them with the right compounds, especially AOD water. The
49:05Speaker 1storage couple years. So before mixing, before reconstituted,
49:09Speaker 1if in the also looked at solvent and like your storage and handling procedures, right? So like cool dark place
49:14Speaker 1or refrigerator,
49:15Speaker 1which will not let condensation inside of the bottle. They were good before mixed
49:20Speaker 1a couple years.
49:21Speaker 1Sort of got HGH
49:23Speaker 1in particular is very sensitive.
49:25Speaker 1So that 1,
49:28Speaker 1degrades fast,
49:29Speaker 1even unmixed
49:31Speaker 1if it's in a hot
49:33Speaker 1or high light environment.
49:35Speaker 1So you need to be careful with that. Like if you get it, like needs to go right in the fridge,
49:39Speaker 1okay, and not be exposed to light, You'll actually notice kind of an H I have noticed this. It's going a little bit bad if it starts to burn as you it's a bit, if you inject in it stings,
49:48Speaker 1that's not how it should be.
49:51Speaker 1I've used enough like old things and like put together a pattern. Like I see that pattern.
49:57Speaker 1The other thing, I mean, again, I had a neighbor who had semaglutide
50:00Speaker 1and Trizepatide for 6 months a year, I think. And she did it and she was like, great, working amazingly.
50:05Speaker 1Right? I know people who've never even refrigerated them not knowing that they're supposed to and they worked amazing. Okay.
50:11Speaker 1So
50:12Speaker 1sorry folks, there is no hard fast rule. Like he said,
50:16Speaker 130 days you're going to be ultra conservative,
50:18Speaker 1I guess. But like, and that's just in 30 days is not saying, Hey, it goes from 30 days, it's working full efficacy, day 31, it does not work at all.
50:27Speaker 1Throw it out. That's not it, right? Maybe this person who told you that is saying, Hey,
50:32Speaker 1that specific peptide at about the 30 day mark,
50:36Speaker 1it may now start to slowly degrade.
50:40Speaker 2Okay. Which it will a little bit, of course. It's gonna have to lose some consistency.
50:44Speaker 1Yeah. Just like you and I, I have got older.
50:47Speaker 1In the last hour. Have degraded in an hour.
50:50Speaker 1But noticing
50:53Speaker 1noticeable,
50:53Speaker 1not that much, hopefully.
50:56Speaker 1So yeah, dude, that's the best thing we got for you. Yeah. But be good to your, just be good to them. With Tesamorelin,
51:04Speaker 1would not put
51:05Speaker 1mixed with cold water. I wouldn't actually keep in a fridge, especially if it's not too cold. I keep it in a cool dark place. And I would do it. Like guys, just use the peptides fast.
51:14Speaker 1Only a few things you should be able to use last longer than 30 days in the same bottle. Seriously. And like, definitely don't get, Hey, I gotta take these 3 peptides for this cycle. Let's mix all 3 of them. Yeah. Don't do that.
51:27Speaker 1Don't mix all your HGH vials. Mix 1, use it. Mix 1, use it. Okay.
51:32Speaker 1And don't let bacteria in the bacteria
51:34Speaker 1will,
51:35Speaker 1know, if not killed by the benzalkal will kill that.
51:38Speaker 1All right,
51:40Speaker 2next,
51:40Speaker 2you're up. What causes NAD plus to crystallize
51:44Speaker 2and what can I do about it? What was a whiz with this stuff? I don't know.
51:50Speaker 1If you actually, if there's a thing,
51:52Speaker 1mix it with no sting water,
51:55Speaker 1Try that. It'll make it, it'll make it crystal less. Depends on how much water I would add. See if you can add more water. I have no idea what the, dilution
52:05Speaker 1that you're putting in there. I think with NAD, the easiest thing to do is if you have thousand milligram
52:11Speaker 1NAD plus put 10 mils of water in. Yeah, 505
52:15Speaker 1hundred MLs,
52:17Speaker 1or I mean, hundred milligram NAD, put 5 mils of water, right? You want to make sure you have enough water.
52:25Speaker 1If it is now most, you'll see that most NAD is coming in a
52:30Speaker 1amber vial. Okay, why is that?
52:33Speaker 1That is to help to not have light get into it. Okay, they make that specifically because NAD is particularly,
52:40Speaker 1I guess, expensive and, susceptible damage through light.
52:44Speaker 1So
52:45Speaker 1don't,
52:46Speaker 1you know, and watch your, obviously, your solvent. Let's
52:51Speaker 1see.
52:53Speaker 1It depends.
52:54Speaker 1I mean, at some cases, like maybe your NAD just isn't that good.
52:58Speaker 1Okay. Maybe it's user error.
53:00Speaker 1I don't really know. But if you would,
53:03Speaker 1the only I can control is
53:06Speaker 1the products that I know specifically.
53:08Speaker 1So I don't know.
53:10Speaker 1If you got a product that I suggested to you,
53:13Speaker 1then you can ask us.
53:15Speaker 1I can walk you through that problem, but there's a variance of reasons. It's
53:19Speaker 1falling out of solution so it's crystallizing, but why?
53:24Speaker 1Do you Mcdough? Next. Sorry guys, my printer failed again on my now I can't Okay,
53:31Speaker 1here we go.
53:33Speaker 2I'm 44. All
53:37Speaker 1right. I'm a 44 year old mother of 3 sober 18 years, 5, 7,
53:42Speaker 11 28,
53:44Speaker 1very active stay at home mom as well as trained social
53:49Speaker 1dancer. I wondered what that was. What does that mean? No idea.
53:54Speaker 1Social dance?
53:57Speaker 2Social dancer.
53:58Speaker 1Is that line dancing? Anyway,
54:00Speaker 1we shall, we will, I don't know. Maybe not figure this out, but 4 hours a week. So social net trained social dancer 4 hours a week. I
54:09Speaker 1only occasionally lift weights at the gym once or twice a week. I just started taking Tesamorelin at 500 micrograms
54:16Speaker 1daily last week,
54:17Speaker 1as well as 1.3
54:19Speaker 1mg of Reta weekly.
54:22Speaker 1And I'm trying to tone up even more. I previously tried CJC,
54:25Speaker 1no DAC plus Epimorelin, but even at a low dose, my instant high fluid retention was just too uncomfortable.
54:32Speaker 1We didn't look good. I stopped after 2 weeks. I've only tried growth hormone secretagogues,
54:37Speaker 1but I've heard mention of IGF-1LR3
54:39Speaker 1and HGH. What is the difference
54:41Speaker 1in the IGF-1LR3
54:43Speaker 1and HGH? Should I switch to 1 of those instead of the growth hormone releasing hormone?
54:48Speaker 1P. S. Please consider providing the same sort of hormone information for women as you give for men.
54:55Speaker 1Thank you. Noted. Yeah. It's been easier for us to research
55:00Speaker 1our whole lives about hormones on men
55:03Speaker 1because it pertained to us, but I totally feel it. That's a valid request.
55:09Speaker 1We're just maybe just
55:11Speaker 1a little bit behind the curve on the knowledge of that. We're shit, we're learning. We know more
55:16Speaker 1for men. 0
55:18Speaker 2some people on to talk about it. And then we'll continue to do that because I know it is increasing,
55:24Speaker 2man. We have heard so story after story of women getting on testosterone or hormone replacement
55:29Speaker 2and it changed in their lives, man. So it's pretty awesome to see. And poor women,
55:35Speaker 1they're just so damn complex, like even their bodies compared to us, you know? And so they got a whole bunch more weird shit going on that like it's worse and different, you know, the ovulation thing. Mean, there's just a lot.
55:47Speaker 1Okay? And so my
55:49Speaker 1heart goes out to y'all managing
55:51Speaker 1those hormones, which are a lot to manage. Okay.
55:55Speaker 1So
55:56Speaker 1answer is what I mean, question so should you take, hey, can I take IGF-1LR-three
56:02Speaker 1instead of the secretagogues or HGH? So I guess think of it this way.
56:07Speaker 1Secretogogue
56:08Speaker 1and HGH
56:09Speaker 1put those as like, that's the question of
56:13Speaker 1an either or. Okay? They are both trying to accomplish the same end goal.
56:17Speaker 1They are the full spectrum
56:20Speaker 1HGH
56:21Speaker 1telling your body to burn fat,
56:25Speaker 1boost metabolism and
56:27Speaker 1grow
56:28Speaker 1everything, which means heal from injuries, heal muscles faster, Also
56:32Speaker 1sleep well,
56:34Speaker 1less wrinkles,
56:35Speaker 1more hair growth, right? That's the growth portion of it. So
56:38Speaker 1the secretagogues,
56:40Speaker 1whether it be CJC, Ipamorelin, Tesamorelin,
56:43Speaker 1Ipamorelin,
56:45Speaker 1those are doing it the body's natural way. They are stimulating the
56:49Speaker 1very start of the process
56:51Speaker 1and hoping for the end result. Very start of the process is pituitary,
56:55Speaker 1stimulated,
56:57Speaker 1that gets going and says, hey, body, let's make more natural HGH.
57:01Speaker 1Okay? And then your body, it's hence, peptides are just signaling molecules. So it signals the start of the chain, right? And then all this chain reactions occur
57:10Speaker 1and now your body
57:12Speaker 1promotes and produces more of that full HGH spectrum.
57:16Speaker 1Okay?
57:17Speaker 1HGH,
57:18Speaker 1human growth hormone, the actual
57:21Speaker 1hormone,
57:22Speaker 1when injected
57:24Speaker 2exogenously
57:26Speaker 1is the end result. It's
57:28Speaker 1bypassing all those steps and is just giving you the end result for your body to use. K? B set boost metabolism,
57:37Speaker 1boost growth.
57:38Speaker 1To that. IGF-1LR
57:40Speaker 13
57:41Speaker 1is the pure essentially,
57:44Speaker 1like,
57:46Speaker 1end product of the growth portion.
57:49Speaker 1It's kind of like AOD, but the opposite. Right? Like AOD is just the fat burning part of the chain. Right? And the IGF-one is just the growth part of the chain. Trying to grow.
57:56Speaker 1So it's just the end result. Now IGF-one
57:59Speaker 1is more potent for muscle building 100%
58:03Speaker 1Yep. Than either of those.
58:05Speaker 1It also potentially comes with the most like side effects,
58:11Speaker 1know, blunting insulin sensitivity,
58:13Speaker 1hyperglycemic.
58:16Speaker 1So you don't want to do this for long term. So IGF-one short term 6, 8 weeks. Yeah. Stop break.
58:24Speaker 1Growth hormone secretagogues
58:25Speaker 1shit do them. I mean, I would still do them for 90 days,
58:30Speaker 1120 days, take a couple of week break and maybe do the different 1 And then just rotate that forever. If you're going to do HGH, you do it and you just do it. You keep going.
58:40Speaker 1Of them are just our long term really to get the max full spectrum benefit
58:45Speaker 1long term like HGH. I'm telling you people like, don't even expect it to work for 6 months.
58:51Speaker 1But 5 years down the road after very consistent use, you're going to look like you did when you started, right? Which is, which is
58:58Speaker 15 years younger.
59:02Speaker 1So long term IGF-one just muscle building added in for short spurts when you know you're going to be trying to build muscle and you know you're willing to eat some good protein and hit it hard and then stop. Yep.
59:12Speaker 2So for her, no.
59:14Speaker 2For her,
59:15Speaker 1Don't do that. Yep. I wouldn't do the IGF-one unless you're lifting. Would, and I don't know what was her age. I'm sorry. 44. Okay.
59:24Speaker 1I'd still would I understand the CJC Ipoh is really strong and it causes that water retention. Good for you for noticing.
59:30Speaker 1Give the I would do the Tesof Ipoh.
59:33Speaker 1Give that a good 120 days and
59:36Speaker 1maybe give that a break, do it again, and and see how that feels. You can start the HGH. I don't know. Maybe wait a little bit to a little bit older. It'll be more effective now. And I guess I'm just not I really aren't I'm really not that worried about side effects for HGH.
59:51Speaker 1I got to just kind of tell you what,
59:53Speaker 1you know, I'm really not that worried about it. At low dose. At low dose. Women, 1 IU day. That's it.
59:59Speaker 17 days a week in the morning on an empty stomach.
1:00:03Speaker 1Potentially you do that thing at night. You'll read up that,
1:00:06Speaker 1you'll read on the internet oftentimes with doctor's offices saying,
1:00:10Speaker 1Hey, we administer
1:00:11Speaker 1HGH at nighttime.
1:00:15Speaker 1And then people go, woah, well, I should do it at night. Well, here's the deal. The doctors are giving it to people who are like very low, critically low in HGH. At night when we're sleeping is our biggest pulse.
1:00:25Speaker 1And so you're not making much of a pulse. So the doctors are replacing that, but
1:00:29Speaker 1if you still have a healthy pulse at night, but then you give yourself HCG, your body will go, hey, look how much I got. Let's not make as big of a pulse. So I do it in the morning where you don't compete, let your body do a good job at night.
1:00:41Speaker 1In the morning,
1:00:42Speaker 1do it when your pulse
1:00:44Speaker 1is not very good.
1:00:46Speaker 1So it doesn't matter if it gets replaced.
1:00:49Speaker 2Yeah. I think she just started what she say last week with the Reta and the Tesa. So I would just keep stick with that. You know, I see, I think a little bit goes a long way, especially you just started it, so give it a shot. I would just very simply add AOD. I've talked about it numerous times, just Tessa and AOD. The
1:01:05Speaker 2experience that we speak of, I just have my wife on it numerous times and it just radically changes her body. So I would just stick with what you're doing. Don't add anything except for the AOD. You could add in some HGH later, but start there, go slow, see how you do and just keep it easy. Just do that.
1:01:22Speaker 2You can always try more.
1:01:24Speaker 2Sorry. You're up. All
1:01:26Speaker 2right, guys. I started to listen to your podcast for
1:01:29Speaker 2the past couple of weeks and now I love it. You guys do an awesome job at breaking down quality knowledge. Keep it up. I'm 28 years old, 6 to 7 days a week. I train 6 to 7 days a week. I eat 4 to 5 meals a day, super clean. Push your limits, train with precision, see the results.
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1:02:15Speaker 2And do cardio 4 to 6 days a week. I was on SSRIs
1:02:21Speaker 2for about 7 months due to having severe anxiety and depression. My mental health wasn't the best. I decided not to take any more due
1:02:32Speaker 2to giving my brain due to giving me bad brain fogs,
1:02:36Speaker 2which I couldn't cope with anymore. My testosterone was at
1:02:41Speaker 23 15 and pre testosterone was at 15.
1:02:45Speaker 2I've just ordered Selank and Semax and just
1:02:48Speaker 2can't wait to try it. I think those would do well for you. I just wanted to know your best choice for boosting mental clarity
1:02:55Speaker 2and permanent energy throughout the day. Own
1:02:59Speaker 2my own business and work 6 to 7 days a week. I just didn't want to find an alternative peptides, but I would love to hear from you guys. Thanks for keeping it up, keeping it real.
1:03:10Speaker 2Cool. Keep killing it guys.
1:03:12Speaker 2I think that's great. I've never been on SSRIs. I don't know much about that,
1:03:17Speaker 2but I know a lot of people are. I love that you're off it. Know, I for
1:03:20Speaker 2me,
1:03:22Speaker 2I think abstinence
1:03:23Speaker 2is always the best, but I do know some people need it. My wife needs a tiny, tiny bit and you've seen her on and off it and trust me, she's better on a tiny, tiny bit. She does a tiny, tiny bit.
1:03:34Speaker 2So, you know, I have changed with my idea on that. So some people just need it, but dude, here's the thing, you're 28.
1:03:42Speaker 2This is crazy,
1:03:43Speaker 2but this is the epidemic going on into the world that we live in. You have 3 15 testosterone
1:03:50Speaker 2and 15 free testosterone.
1:03:51Speaker 2Dude, you must be tired. Yeah. Oh shit. Good luck. Let's talk about the SSRIs and brain fog and all that stuff, which is probably the genesis of the problem is your testosterone.
1:04:01Speaker 2You're not supposed to have 3 15 testosterone.
1:04:04Speaker 2You're not supposed to have 15 free testosterone.
1:04:07Speaker 2That's not how God created us. I think if you just fix that problem, even though you're 28, holy shit, whatever you need to be on testosterone, dude, the jury has come back and that alone
1:04:19Speaker 2will change a lot of your problems. Now, if you're anxiety driven and depressed, I don't, the
1:04:26Speaker 2and the Semax will do good with that. That's Russians used it for that.
1:04:31Speaker 2Dude,
1:04:32Speaker 2testosterone alone is going to change your life, You're going to be killing vigor,
1:04:36Speaker 2brain fog should be gone. You're going to feel like a man and just, work 6 to 7 days a week and you work out a lot. You're probably because you're so young, you're able to do that. If you were 20 years old, you probably can do that at those levels.
1:04:48Speaker 2Just changing your testosterone
1:04:50Speaker 2dude is going to change it. I would start there. You can still do the Selank and the C Max, but start with just getting your testosterone,
1:04:58Speaker 2dude. And then, then we can adapt from there.
1:05:01Speaker 1Change your life, dude. That will probably, I mean, you're, yeah, maybe you might be 28, but that was those scores just scream that you have to, you have to have it. Some people
1:05:11Speaker 1can put it off, but like you really should. And that will probably just solve all of these problems. Literally.
1:05:17Speaker 1Also
1:05:18Speaker 1though, there's some other Tesofensine
1:05:20Speaker 1that we were talking about. Yep. Okay. I
1:05:23Speaker 1have been on SSRIs
1:05:26Speaker 1before. Okay.
1:05:27Speaker 1And
1:05:28Speaker 1it's a serotonin reuptake inhibitor, a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. And basically
1:05:33Speaker 1serotonin is our neurotransmitter that makes us
1:05:37Speaker 1happy but calm.
1:05:38Speaker 1And I too had, I got on it, like after I got a detox at 1 point, I was like, I'm so depressed.
1:05:46Speaker 1Duh. I've never been a depressed kid, you know? But like, hey, when you start doing, when you do drugs and then you stop them, you're depressed.
1:05:52Speaker 1So I started taking it and I did take them for a while and then I was like, I'm so tired all the time. Like, so that's your brain fog. Also long term SSRI and drug use just will kill, will hurt your testosterone,
1:06:04Speaker 1you know?
1:06:05Speaker 1There you go. So
1:06:07Speaker 1I feel you do get off of that. Now, I mean, I know and I don't wanna sound too hypocritical, but like Tesofensine, guess what? It's a triple. It's an SSRI.
1:06:15Speaker 1It's a dopamine
1:06:16Speaker 1reuptake inhibitor, which is what Wellbutrin is, and it's a norepinephrine
1:06:22Speaker 1reuptake inhibitor,
1:06:24Speaker 1but is like the best of all of those worlds and
1:06:28Speaker 1actually made at different concentrations.
1:06:31Speaker 1This stuff's cool,
1:06:32Speaker 1man.
1:06:33Speaker 1It's also but it is something that you don't wanna just stop.
1:06:36Speaker 1You wanna if you're gonna stop doing it, you probably should wean down a little bit from Tesofensine.
1:06:41Speaker 1So so if you start and you make a habit, just know that. You may not need that at all though. I would probably, I would go with the testosterone 1st, see if that solves all your problems, then
1:06:51Speaker 1go on. There's
1:06:52Speaker 1another 1 coming out, Peptide Illuminero,
1:06:55Speaker 1which is
1:06:56Speaker 1going to be a whole nootropic blend.
1:06:59Speaker 1I'm excited about that. We'll tell you when that stuff comes out. Okay.
1:07:04Speaker 2And that's it bro. Keep going, man. Keep going. Yeah. Get on the dude for your business. For a month and then let us know how you feel, dude. Yeah.
1:07:12Speaker 1I feel like super bad. Yeah. For sure. Give it a month. Give it a month. Let us know if you got questions. Okay? Yep. And,
1:07:19Speaker 1yeah,
1:07:20Speaker 1you have a lot of hope in the future. Okay?
1:07:24Speaker 1Alright. I'm up. You're ready? Hey, guys. Love the podcast. I'm 26 years old weighing in at 70 kilos.
1:07:30Speaker 1Very recently dialed in and fixed my diet training with the help of Retta.
1:07:36Speaker 1Early January weighing in at 86 kilos. I'm now currently cycling on and off. Clo as I suffered years of inflammation from poor mobility, which I struggle as I play rugby in the rugby league. Duh.
1:07:48Speaker 1Since starting this journey, I'm now running pain free and playing well. I'm also stacking with Reta, Tesamorelin,
1:07:56Speaker 11 mega day, fasted before bed. I was wondering, is there anything I can take without having to branch into the steroid world to build my lean muscle,
1:08:06Speaker 1geez, to build my lean muscle mass and but still lose fat. Keep up the good world. Love to hear from you guys. A massive 3 fan of from the land down under.
1:08:17Speaker 2Aussies, baby.
1:08:19Speaker 1Cool man. Rugby's rough sport. Good for you. You guys liked that stuff. 26.
1:08:24Speaker 1Did you say he's 26 years old? Yep. Oh shit. Right. My
1:08:27Speaker 1dad, my dad played rugby and my dad also,
1:08:31Speaker 1he like pitched from the Oakland A's in the farm team and ran track and you dub. But I was a little kid and he would teach me like, well, it's just 1 on 1, just rest like scrumming. We put the ball in the middle of us and just like,
1:08:40Speaker 1you know, push against each other. And then it's tough to play rugby with 1 on 1 because you have to kick the ball to somebody else. But anyway, so we had it last, but he said he played some guys who were tough. And he was like, yeah, I'm not built for this.
1:09:05Speaker 1Fat burning. Like, I mean, I can't believe that the rugby doesn't burn all the fat you need, but SLU-3s): What the cool thing here is like, it's going to boost your endurance. It's going to help nutrient partitioning. So you're not going to like lose as much muscle when you're because the food that you eat, your body's gonna, oh shit,
1:09:21Speaker 1nutrients, vitamins, minerals,
1:09:24Speaker 1muscle protein, let's go to the muscles. And
1:09:28Speaker 1it will boost your endurance and it will help burn fat. And it's not a steroid. CarGurine getting a little closer to steroid y.
1:09:36Speaker 1GW-five
1:09:38Speaker 10 1 5 1 6 is awesome. That will just boost the hell out of your endurance. Yep. And you'll be running circles around people and
1:09:47Speaker 1it will prioritize
1:09:48Speaker 1fat,
1:09:49Speaker 1before sugar. So it kind of puts you in the state of ketosis. So you're gonna burn some good belly fat with Cardrian, but you're also gonna kick ass on the field. And
1:09:58Speaker 1yeah, that's
1:10:00Speaker 1about based on what you're doing, bro. Like I wouldn't do any more rhetoric because you're not gonna have enough energy to run around
1:10:08Speaker 1because you're not gonna be eating enough food.
1:10:10Speaker 1I would try 1 of those men and go,
1:10:14Speaker 1try 1 of those.
1:10:16Speaker 2Yeah, I think that's good, dude. I mean, there's many options. Sloop's great. You could use cart. Yeah,
1:10:22Speaker 2I mean, you got it. MK-677, like I've said,
1:10:25Speaker 2IGF-one,
1:10:26Speaker 2obviously AOD.
1:10:27Speaker 2These are just some that you can try nutrition,
1:10:30Speaker 2nutrition, nutrition, diet, diet, diet, lift heavy,
1:10:33Speaker 2eat a lot. You're young. You're obviously running a lot.
1:10:38Speaker 2You can, you're 26, dude, so you can throw in a little bit of fasting like me and it'll go a long way for a 26 year old. If you could like 3 days a week, maybe just cut out breakfast and just eat from like 12 to 8 Monday, Wednesday, Friday, you'll see a huge, huge, huge difference
1:10:54Speaker 2for sure because you're 26. It'll work really well. So,
1:10:58Speaker 2you know, as I said before, that supplements are great, but you know what, if you get back to the basics and just do some of the things that God gave us, which is nutrition, lifting heavy shit and fasting.
1:11:09Speaker 1You're 26. It's going to work really well. I would say creatine also, dude, that's a good over the counter, like good performance enhancer.
1:11:16Speaker 1That's
1:11:17Speaker 1creatine. It is. It really freaking works. And so people say, so here's gonna be the thing, is people go, oh, well, creatine like makes you pull your muscles. Okay?
1:11:27Speaker 1Okay. That can happen, but it's not because it makes your muscles weaker. That's the general thought is it makes your muscles weaker or it starves them for water.
1:11:36Speaker 1It actually kind of does the opposite. The problem here's why people pull muscles is because it literally
1:11:42Speaker 1makes your muscles so it's a it's a ATP. ATP is our cellular energy, right? So it's making us do this really fast. You know you've burnt out your ATP when you feel your muscles burn.
1:11:52Speaker 1So ATP for energy,
1:11:55Speaker 1then it converts into ADP,
1:11:57Speaker 1which is the lactic acid. And that muscles are burning like, shit, I just exhausted my ATP. Right? Well, creatine
1:12:04Speaker 1tells it when it drops to ADP, whoop, pushes it back up to ATP. So your endurance is longer and you are stronger and you have better output and for longer. So you give a person who has a muscle, who's now muscle is working is stronger without
1:12:20Speaker 1building any more extra infrastructure, right? It's just stronger and
1:12:24Speaker 1can thinks it can go longer.
1:12:26Speaker 1And now you're gonna put more stress onto it and it's not used to that, right? It's gonna contract harder.
1:12:31Speaker 1And there is when we get muscle pulls, right? Because it's basically like working too well. It's
1:12:38Speaker 1not strong enough to do what it's meant, what it's mentally trying to do. And that's where we get some kind of muscle pulls. So
1:12:45Speaker 1it's not crazy. It's not going to just, you're not going to flex in your, in your bicep tendons and just muscles going to snap off of your forearm.
1:12:52Speaker 1So if you're taking creatine and running and being athletic,
1:12:55Speaker 1you know, just drink enough water and warm up
1:12:58Speaker 1like a person should
1:12:59Speaker 1and just take care of yourself and you should be just fine,
1:13:03Speaker 1but it really will help and will help keep muscle on and keep weight on you.
1:13:08Speaker 1And B12, I don't know for you and the dude in the last question, just some like vitamin
1:13:12Speaker 1B12 injections and thousand micrograms a week.
1:13:16Speaker 1I don't know. That gives me that'll help some brain fog. That'll help some energy, etcetera. 0 Hell yeah. I love B12
1:13:22Speaker 2I'm up. I think me. Okay, good. Just discovered a podcast
1:13:26Speaker 2and have really been enjoying it. I am trying to recover from a chronically
1:13:31Speaker 2dislocated
1:13:32Speaker 2rib in my back at my T spine
1:13:35Speaker 2that I have ignored for too many years. Physical therapy is going well and my doctor gave me Wolverine's to help recovery. Wow, good doctor. But I live alone and have trouble reaching that spot in my back to try to inject locally near the injury. Is injecting my abdomen just wasting the BPC-one 157
1:13:55Speaker 2or will it have some benefit?
1:13:57Speaker 2Or do I need to try to figure out a way to get into that spot in my back no matter what?
1:14:03Speaker 1I think you're good, man. It's not a waste of time. It's not a waste of time. And
1:14:07Speaker 1I wish it's not a waste of time. I'd keep doing it. But if you can find a girlfriend who can inject you in the back, that's a little bit better. You know, we always say that BPC
1:14:15Speaker 1is not going to help like structural
1:14:18Speaker 1problems. You know, it's not going to, if you have a dislocated
1:14:22Speaker 1rib, it's not going to put the thing back. But what it will do is once it's set back, right? How do things stay in socket? Well, have connecting tissues, right? They have ligaments and tendons that connect to them and hold them solid. So that's why whenever you dislocate anything, get tons of swelling because you've torn all those ligaments and tendons, right? It's the only way that they got dislocated out of the joint.
1:14:45Speaker 1So it's actually a very good idea.
1:14:47Speaker 1If we can set it and we know it's it's set back in the right place, then fill that stuff up with BPC TB and to help rebuild all those connective tissues and that strength. It doesn't dislocate
1:14:58Speaker 1again in the future. Smart doctor. Good job. Yeah. Was great. Keep doing it.
1:15:02Speaker 1All right. Hey guys, love the podcast and the new community. So thankful for your knowledge on peptides. Finding reliable info on the internet can be challenging
1:15:11Speaker 1and
1:15:12Speaker 1it's often conflicting anyway. 51 years old male currently on Retta 8 Migs a week. That's a lot. Does that say that? Yep. AOD 0.25
1:15:22Speaker 1Migs daily AM facet GHKCu
1:15:25Speaker 11 Mig nightly and
1:15:27Speaker 1Tessa 1 Mig nightly. My question is when to start TRT and HGH. My goal is to lose more weight.
1:15:35Speaker 1I started my journey at 2 50. I'm currently 2 15, 13. That's fucking awesome.
1:15:40Speaker 1Trying to preserve muscle
1:15:42Speaker 1while losing weight.
1:15:45Speaker 1Mainly making sure I get enormous,
1:15:47Speaker 1enormous. Yes. GH protein.
1:15:50Speaker 1Should I start TRT and or GH now? And when I get closer to my goal weight undecided
1:15:56Speaker 1where that is or what I want to look before I gain some lean muscle. Okay. Boom. How old are you? 51. 51. Start it now. Do it now.
1:16:07Speaker 1Easy answer. It's going to help yesterday.
1:16:09Speaker 1So like you've done a lot of really good work. Good for you. You know, you've lost a ton of weight and,
1:16:15Speaker 1and
1:16:16Speaker 1through that you've obviously guarantee you've built some habits and you've learned a lot about yourself, right? Nobody loses 60 pounds or whatever.
1:16:24Speaker 1When not, not, not learning new habits, new ways of doing things and,
1:16:29Speaker 1and, and yes, building, doing things consistently.
1:16:33Speaker 1The worry that would be the 51 year old before you lost that weight is that you're
1:16:37Speaker 1just going to keep up with those same bad habits that got you that heavy weight. And now you're doing tests and now your cholesterol is gonna go up and now you're just gonna gain a bunch of bad weight, right, and be lazy and horny and that's it. But
1:16:51Speaker 1you've proven it. I think now is the time, and now you're probably starting to plateau, okay, because it just is what it is, right? That extra weight's easy to get off at the beginning, then it becomes harder and harder. The test is not do nothing but like boost your metabolism.
1:17:04Speaker 1And
1:17:05Speaker 1how do we boost metabolism?
1:17:07Speaker 1We add muscle so that fat and everything is going to just even come off even easier and faster. Plus your age is telling us you're ready. You need age. Need probably need it.
1:17:17Speaker 1Do it now.
1:17:19Speaker 1If you want to take a blood test to tell that, have that tell it to you, go ahead. Yeah.
1:17:23Speaker 2Whatever your goal weight is, you're down to 2 13 from 2 50. I mean, dude, you're doing a lot of rudder too. I would try to start to start to bring that back and just really focus on healthy
1:17:33Speaker 2habits,
1:17:34Speaker 2diet.
1:17:36Speaker 2You're obviously sound like you're there.
1:17:38Speaker 2You know, that's a lot of Retta man. I think Retta goes a really long way. I'd pull that back a little bit and start to titrate
1:17:45Speaker 2that back and
1:17:46Speaker 2get on the TRT and HGH that will help you on the AOD.
1:17:51Speaker 2You can replace it with other things if you want, like SLU-1MQ.
1:17:58Speaker 2You can increase your AOD to probably 500 micrograms daily. Yeah, definitely on AOD. The AOD and I think we're running well together. But again,
1:18:07Speaker 2I think you can get away with a little bit less in my opinion.
1:18:10Speaker 2This is gonna be a little bit cheaper for you. Why not? And watch what the TRT does for you, dude. And
1:18:16Speaker 1wean down for Laredo. Wean down. Don't just stop. Don't just drop from 8 to 4, Right? Drop from 8 to 7.5
1:18:26Speaker 1for like 2 weeks and then go maybe down to 7.
1:18:29Speaker 1So just be easy on yourself. You know, it's not, it is not killing you right now, but it's a good idea to do less, especially if you want to be able to eat enough to add some muscle. So,
1:18:40Speaker 1but,
1:18:41Speaker 1and yeah, that's it dude. That's it. Good stuff, man. These are good. These are good, good questions. Guess what I do like is like most people nowadays
1:18:50Speaker 1who are sending, tell us what they're doing. Like it's all
1:18:55Speaker 1actually smart. Like the dosing wise, like, okay, cool. Like even, even ampm,
1:19:00Speaker 1blah, blah, blah. It's all good. We're not like, oof, boy, we're missing the mark on everything on this question. No. When did we start doing the Q and A?
1:19:10Speaker 1How
1:19:11Speaker 2long have been doing the Q and 6 months, dude? Has it been 6 months? I don't know. It's actually, I think the biggest hit. People like the Q and A, so it's great, man. The questions are getting amazing. Everybody's listening. Everybody's growing. People are getting good at peptides. So man, it's been awesome.
1:19:24Speaker 2We got the peptide of the week. We will probably record it on Friday.
1:19:29Speaker 2We got Paul back TR coming next Tuesday.
1:19:33Speaker 2That's generally when we record the Q and A we'll probably do Q and A Monday
1:19:37Speaker 2on Tuesday, just kind what's going on with the markets, blah, blah, blah. But we'll let them know on what we want to do. Maybe we'll do Tesofensine again on Friday.
1:19:45Speaker 2Should that 1 didn't get through? Maybe that's something we could do. We'll think about it, but, join school, get enjoyed, hear them in the community. People are just getting so much information and trust us
1:19:55Speaker 2in the next 6 months, it's going to be leaps and bounds. You're going to be loving it. We're going to have so much rad content on there.
1:20:02Speaker 2Obviously, it's controlled a little bit, but it's controlled mainly by us.
1:20:06Speaker 2And we had some cool stuff on there. Will and I even threw out a steroid cycle that we have a cutter and a bulker because we can, you know, some people do that stuff and they wanted to know. So we did it so that can only be on those platforms. And we'll put a lot of that type of content on there. If you don't like that stuff, don't watch that stuff. But if you do, then you have that stuff. We're trying to really like, we love all this stuff. You know, we loved studying it and, you know, we've done that stuff when we, in our youth and we know about it. So it's just fun
1:20:36Speaker 1to, I don't know, I say this is really fun to like this
1:20:39Speaker 1push. Let's just like see what your, what my genetic potential is. Right. You
1:20:45Speaker 2know,
1:20:45Speaker 1guys gave me all that we give us this cool ass thing to like the functions and we know how to make it function
1:20:52Speaker 1just way better.
1:20:54Speaker 1Just be careful at what risk, at what cost,
1:20:57Speaker 1but
1:20:58Speaker 2it's fun. Yeah, we love it. So
1:21:01Speaker 2awesome. We appreciate you. We will catch you on the next round. Good night. Care.