Ep 89 · 1:18:59
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0:59Speaker 2Cross way, Mr. William T. Hass, ready to drop some knowledge on us. What's up, dude? Busy day.
1:20Speaker 2A lot of my mind, we're trying to focus. I was listening to you with, what's his name, the new guy.
1:27Speaker 2Well, it's good at that. He has patience. I'm not. I was thinking that, you know, you're just good at it, man. Like I'm just like, dude, I don't like explaining shit. Yeah. I don't like explaining stuff
1:40Speaker 1so that maybe helped. Yeah. Right? Like, maybe I just have that in my genes to like- Teach. Teach.
1:48Speaker 1As you get, I guess, busier and own a business and get higher up and have more employees, I feel like all I'm doing is
2:04Speaker 1gosh, this is 10 times faster if I just do it. The problem is if I just keep doing it. Yeah.
2:09Speaker 1And then now I have so many damn tasks that only I can just do and it's impossible to do all of those So
2:22Speaker 1know how to do it. And I have the right people that are quick learners and he's a damn quick learner actually. Like he's impressive. And
2:39Speaker 1yeah, it's nice. Get it. Some people just get it. But yeah, I've been having to do a lot of that.
2:44Speaker 2Well, we've talked about it many times. It's hiring the right people is key to everything.
2:51Speaker 1We were at the beach this weekend and 1 of our good friends, my buddy's wife was like, oh, she's an accountant. She's like, oh, tell me about the things,
3:04Speaker 1Answer is no. Like I explain these things all day long and think about it. Don't want to explain it to you. I just don't want to talk about it.
3:21Speaker 1I saw somebody who I used to play volleyball with when I was a single man and out there just like having fun in life
3:28Speaker 1at this beach party that we went to. And he's like, hey, man. Haven't seen him in long, long time. He's like, I watch you and Jay Hill every week. Right? I feel like I know you guys. He's like, man, you look at you. You've changed so much.
3:39Speaker 1You got a girlfriend. You got a, you got a girl. You're about to make your wife. Yes. Yes. Came up to me a few left. Super
3:47Speaker 1nice guys from Oklahoma. Yeah. Like a thick accent. Yeah. Yeah. So shout out to everybody who,
3:53Speaker 1yeah, everybody who watches and appreciates this. That's just, it is cool. And I guess if
4:04Speaker 1Yeah, I do. I like, yeah, it's nice. I was telling Will when this kind of started, because I was ahead of the curve. Had my
4:11Speaker 2channels and it was happening to me quite a bit and I'm all, it's coming. Just be ready. And it started happening. I told you,
4:17Speaker 2but everybody's cool, man. Everybody was cool. That's for sure. Super cool, man. When people just know about you and they listen and like it's flattering and it's super cool, man. It's, you know, just all kind of just happened.
4:28Speaker 2Here we are. I, but I was, I was talking with Liz. I, so Doctor. Scott, I've been, you know, dealing with the sleep thing, dealing with this, dealing with that. So Doctor. Scott, I've been working with him and he, ran some tests. This is kind of gross, but blood test obviously, which he dug in, which is man, Scott just goes deep into that. I've never had a doctor go that deep. So that was dope. And then I did for, there's no way to say this, the fecal-
4:56Speaker 2which would made it even worse as I sent it in and they never got it. So I had to do it again. I was like,
5:11Speaker 2ever. I think it was a Viking and I used to eat like 50 Viking and back in the day, but I will do it to you. But I've had this, as you know, this autoimmune forever, forever, ever, ever. I'm just so freaking ready to just get rid of this son of a bitch. He thinks he can fix it. So he's got me on all these dude. I have this just
5:39Speaker 2release toxins. I'm like, a little weird right now. I'm like, am I supposed to feel weird? He's all, yes. You're releasing toxins. I'm like, okay. Cause I feel so.
5:52Speaker 2important to do this stuff. You know what I mean? And like people that like he does that for a living. It's interesting. And I've had numerous
6:06Speaker 2Him the reins, baby. Let's see if he can do this, man. So either way, it's going to reboot my gut and that will be great.
6:18Speaker 1So we'll see. That's a good amount of time for the change that happened. Remember when I was a little kid watching ESPN or they did like this,
6:34Speaker 1he liked his supplements. Now I'm not even gonna say, like, he was doing steroids because, I mean, there is a point, like, people in the NFL, people don't understand this,
6:43Speaker 1I've met plenty of people who like, oh, you're the NFL players. They're all on steroids. Guaranteed. Like, none of them are on steroids.
6:50Speaker 1Guaranteed. You cannot play that athletic of a sport. Like, baseball's about it, and now they're even testing there. But, like, the testing is so effing strict.
6:58Speaker 1Now they can take some other things, but they're not taking straight up anabolic steroids. Anyway, the whole point of this I brought up was they they, like, covered Bill Roanosky. What do eat in a day? Like, this dude had, like, trays of pills. Oh, really? Like, this is breakfast, these 7 trays. Yeah.
7:25Speaker 1Listen, this is what we do. We love nutrition. We love it. I'm ready to dig in and fix it, baby. And the reason that none of them can be using steroids is like, they're just running too much. Like, it may make you really strong, but your connective tissues cannot
7:39Speaker 1you will get injured. That's why like you'll see all the big names who we knew were doing steroids in the NFL, they got hurt. In careers in college, when you guy was running gear when I was playing in college, they always got hurt. Always got hurt. They're gonna pull hands straight. Your muscles too strong for your tendons. Your
8:06Speaker 2Evan Britton on. He's an NFL star. And he was telling me it was kind of fun to just dig into just, man, they, they just blast you. You're getting your ass on that field,
8:17Speaker 2are getting your ass on that field, dude. Like, you are shamed. If you don't, I was like, wow, that's intense, man. But dude, you are at the top echelons
8:30Speaker 1ever. I think football even outweighs soccer in every other country where soccer is a huge in other countries. Well, yeah, soccer wins. My win. Sucker wins universally. There's no hands down because guess what? Any kid from Ghana, no offense to Ghana, but like any 3rd world country that has no money, you can play soccer. What do you need? A ball. Yeah. You need a coconut basically to kick around. That's it. To play football, need, you know, it takes money, right? Gotta organize that many people. You gotta buy them all pads. You gotta go organize all the plays. It's just a yeah. So, like, basketball, soccer is probably university, but soccer, man. Let's play those guys make Soccer. And they make cash. But you're right. I mean, it's,
9:10Speaker 1yeah, you're you're up at the very, very, very, very pinnacle and and and in an NFL career is very short, dude. Yeah. And you wanna maximize it, but it's a business too. It's all business. Even going to college. Right? Right? Like, I would high school football was fun. Right? It was still a game. Next level. You go to college and you and the 1st my the 1st realization was, damn, okay. This is a business. Yeah. Coaches,
9:35Speaker 1They are yelling at you because this is their career and their whole family is on the line. Right? Whereas your high school coach
9:41Speaker 1Yeah. He's a teacher. He don't really care. Like, it's the, you know, that Just get out there and enjoy yourself. Do your best. You know? It's like, get your ass on that field, dude. No. I need you to feed my kids. Yeah. Right? That's just an And they're making millions of dollars.
9:59Speaker 2by NFL players that go broke within few years? Yeah. Pretty crazy amount. Like, really high. It's like almost all.
10:06Speaker 2I mean, you know how to, you don't know how to deal with money. You don't know how deal with money. Just kept making nothing. Good money in my early twenties and I had no clue about anything. No, absolutely. No. But the next round, I was smart. I mean, me too. I'm gonna invest this bitch. I started a company when I was 21 and then ended
10:27Speaker 1and had to sign like a letter that says I'm banned from the industry. Okay. I had a drug problem, but like,
10:34Speaker 1When I got when I 1st had a taste of money, because like growing up, I couldn't get Nike shoes. Right? It was always like, you know, but gotta go to Payless shoe source. And so I always wanted things, but never could have them. And then when I finally started making my own money
10:50Speaker 1like a boat, an avalanche, Mercedes, 2 apartments for no fucking reason. No reason. Right? Just like buying out the bar when I'd go out. And,
10:58Speaker 1yeah, that was dumb and not right. But I didn't know how to, yeah, didn't know what I didn't know what the hell to do. I wasn't responsible. Was young too. Young people are dumb. Yeah, dude. So think about 1 guys making millions in their early twenties. And
11:12Speaker 1then the the early twenties 0 wasn't making like nothing close to millions. Just buying like all these friends who say, yo,
11:19Speaker 1let me get some, right? They don't realize taxes, right? They're taking 0.5 of their money. Yeah,
11:32Speaker 1always broke because they don't know how to deal with it. This, the mob has known this. They have a saying like, don't never make a poor man the boss.
11:40Speaker 1Right? Because the poor man, when he gets some money, he gets a little greedy and he wants to keep it and he does dumb things and then he gets violent.
11:56Speaker 2New York. Go ahead. Finale, done a finale. Cool, man. So today, my friends, it is a Q and A.
12:23Speaker 2but just everybody's kind of posting. I posted something yesterday, just kind of curious and it did well. I said, you know, here's our Will and I talk about our favorite compounds or what are your top 3? And so many people commented. So I thought that was cool. And it's a wide range of stuff out there, man. There's people are educating themselves. You could even tell them some of the questions they've changed and people are growing and it's been a cool
12:59Speaker 1It's been, you know, it's been a few days since I've been asked, like, a few of these people and haven't got back to them. But, yeah, they're coming. It's coming. Is a lot. And they're like, yeah.
13:17Speaker 1but we are just just be patient as we're Upgrading it. Rebranding and upgrading. We got a lot of cool stuff to coming,
13:34Speaker 1I don't know, ownership, actual plat different. Still made on school, but not the Pepatide of the Week school.
13:41Speaker 1It's gonna be dope, and that's the spot to be. But yeah, more to come. Yeah, VIP, a little bit more correct access to us. We can't answer every single email. Yeah. It just would not, can do it. Yeah. We're gonna call it like it's the JD and Will VIP forum. Really original, but that's what it is.
14:13Speaker 1Why did you go here? Okay. Why the peptide companies, right? That's what we're talking about. Why
14:37Speaker 1here is, I guess, you know, the main answer is just an economic answer. Okay? I know that like we,
15:17Speaker 1you know, starting from scratch and just going, alright, hey, let's revamp quality control, blah, blah, blah. We're sending out every single peptide, but to 3 different ones. So you got 75 peptides,
15:37Speaker 1for testing for your quality and purity testing. Now, if you do for the heavy metals and all the endotoxins, etcetera, it's about $600 a test. So 600 times 75
15:55Speaker 1test basically 1 batch of every peptide and that needs to be ongoing, right? Every single new batch that you get in,
16:04Speaker 1Times 3. Now, obviously that's the upfront initial expense and then it gets a little bit easier, but economically,
16:16Speaker 1all these regulations that force them to do all this stuff. This is why you get to buy these peptides. Cheap. Cheap. And I'm talking cheap, like fraction cheap compared to buying them,
16:56Speaker 1on financial. Right? So basically, hey, if you don't if you want them if you want it cheap and a real good price and to do it, you just you can't complain.
17:14Speaker 1heavy metals, but man, you should see what the, like, acceptable level of arsenic is in a daily allotment for people. Right? And like what other,
17:22Speaker 1and people don't really know how to read these things. They don't really know, and it's too too much for me to kind of explain right now because we gotta talk about every single different compound and every single different heavy metal or potential toxin Yeah. And what the allowable limit is.
17:41Speaker 1I guarantee that you're, like, the Big Mac or, like, Coca Cola that you drink Doritos. Is in Doritos
17:50Speaker 1with all of that shit than doing a peptide that, you know, hasn't been tested. Now you
18:02Speaker 1what you will see, you're gonna see test companies more and more have these further, further expensive tests, right? As people are realizing that LL peptides are great, they are working,
18:17Speaker 1so the standard is just going to go up and up and up and up. Which is good. It's great. It's just really good.
18:29Speaker 1they all get to this really high standard. Yeah. Right. And are somehow can keep costs down.
18:35Speaker 2Well, if you've heard the podcast with Jay Campbell, whether you believe it or not, but what he said is about 70%
18:42Speaker 2of those smaller research companies will be bye bye because they're not going to be able to do those types of testings. The ones that actually are literally like testing them properly
18:52Speaker 2are going to be the ones that kind of make it through. So whether that's true or not, we kind of think so. Which
19:03Speaker 2But you're getting safe products and you're still going to get them a buttload cheaper than you're going to get them from those higher companies. So they'll still be cheaper. They will be tested. So there will be some type of regulation to a degree.
19:16Speaker 2It's a good thing. It's a good thing there. It's improving, man. You don't want to get it from John that has it out of his back of his truck because he got it from China for $16.
19:25Speaker 2That's great. You can literally find that. But the reason these companies pass the cost on to you is because they test them. He just went over the cost. It costs a shitload of money to test these damn things, man. So that gets passed on to you. That's why the companies that charge a little bit more,
19:45Speaker 1math. Simple math. And also to add on to like, and I agree that he says, you know, 30%
19:52Speaker 1of the companies will still will be, will remain because they have good quality control standards. But I also kind of agree with Jay, probably about 75%
20:05Speaker 1bunk. Like, you know, say they're 10 mg, but you're getting 4.5 mg or you're not getting any and you're getting something else. Right? So,
20:15Speaker 2This man's been in this game a long time, fellas and people. So he knows what he's talking about. He's just throwing away a lot of bumps. The job tested was not tested well. So if you got that company that didn't care,
20:32Speaker 2Retrutide and you bought the 30 mg. Yeah, I gotta tell you, like a 100 plus suppliers I have purchased
20:41Speaker 1And I would say, yeah, probably I haven't honestly to be honest, like Push your limits, train with precision, see the results.
21:00Speaker 1I'd say about 15 percent, 20 percent of those, like, were fully dosed and say what and what they were. Yeah. The other ones just threw away. And so the average Joe is going, Oh, well, I find a hack. And they're like, they found 1 of those hundreds buyers I bought bought
21:20Speaker 1yeah, about 20% of the actually is on the news or even dosed, right? Not to even mention into toxins and minerals, etcetera. But
21:36Speaker 2Appreciate you guys. Many blessings and continued success. I was wondering if you all monitor IGF-one
21:46Speaker 2When would your IGF-one be at a level where you would have concerns? Any other competing peptides you would
22:03Speaker 2I'm just waiting for blood work to come back to get a baseline. I'm 53 years old male.
22:36Speaker 2probably don't need that. It's probably going to accuse your testosterone to the degree where you might have some issues. I speak with experience,
22:42Speaker 1shot at my testosterone. It's getting gyno. What do you got? Well, so yeah, so the Kisspeptin, here's the deal with that. Like we've talked about and I maybe I wasn't
23:09Speaker 1It starts though where it naturally starts, which is in our brain with our pituitary. Okay? And the research tells us that if you are on TRT,
23:25Speaker 1It will not be told to turn on because it goes, No, I already have enough testosterone.
23:38Speaker 1Because it won't do it. It won't it'll say, hit the 2 or 10. It makes them goes, nope, I'm not doing it. I already have enough testosterone. We are good. So as opposed to HCG where it bypasses that loop and just starts here, it just tells it to make tells testes to make more Yeah. And it will do it.
23:54Speaker 1So that's what I guess stood out to me. The 1 thing I don't I can't give you an exact answer on what blood levels
24:12Speaker 1you I guess the 1 worry so taking HGH or or a secretagog and IGF-one is going to increase growth signaling. Okay? Taking both of those, great. It will increase growth signaling. All 3. Okay. Is he taking all 3? Yeah. HGH is secreted to go to IGF-1s too much. I think that that is too much. Think that is
24:33Speaker 1there is too much of too much of the same thing competing for the same pathway. Absolutely. K?
24:46Speaker 1I would maybe choose 2, but just be don't don't do a whole bunch of of those 2. Okay? So secretagogues
24:59Speaker 1IGF-one would be the 1 that's would either make a choice of secretagogue or HGH. That's either or, and then you can add IGF-one,
25:06Speaker 1but don't do a ton of any of them. Yeah. Okay. You really don't wanna just overdo it. Right? You will see, you know, like hypoglycemia,
25:24Speaker 1But IGF-one is essentially the byproduct of HGH and secretagogues, right? But it's the byproduct that is the growth signaling. So,
25:41Speaker 1some of the natural loop that the secretagogs take, and not much of a natural loop that HGH takes. HGH is gonna give you that IGF-one increase, but also the other side of it, which is essentially the metabolic side, is the fat burning side. It's a growth and fat burning.
26:27Speaker 2That would be my strategy. We totally get it. I mean, we totally get it. I've done it numerous times. I've taken boatloads of peptides, you know, like they're easy access for me. Why would I not? But like, as I grow and as I evolve and I learn, as I learn myself and how I feel, blah, blah, blah, I
26:45Speaker 2think going slow and just easy literally is the best way to do it. Know, you have a lot of these peptides are great. Like you can do them in every 90 days, change it, change your cycle, change it around.
26:57Speaker 2C and NAD, amazing. So use it for like 90 days, take a big break and then switch it up. Try some Cmax, Cline, whatever. So you definitely obviously have the love for peptides,
27:06Speaker 2but just like us, just like everybody, we, we start to get so trained to take something when
27:28Speaker 2for a long time and it eventually caught up to me and whooped my ass. So I fixed it, you know, slowed the hell down and fixed it. I felt great.
27:47Speaker 2if you're trying to bulk up a bit is way better than both the secretagog and the IGF-one. I'm talking with experience. The only negative
28:15Speaker 2is your guy. Again, as long as you don't have a problem eating too much where a lot of people have.
28:20Speaker 2But other than that, I would pull out. You definitely don't want to do all 3. You're doing the AOD-two, but that's not going to increase your IGF-one.
28:28Speaker 2But yeah, I would go a little bit slower, man, and just focus on your diet, focus on your sleep and
28:33Speaker 2make sure that those things are prime too, and generally stay in a pocket of about 4 peptides. I really think that's a really good space and
28:43Speaker 2then switch it up every few months. But try the IGF-one, but just don't try out all 3. Yeah. And on that 1 go like 8 weeks max. Yeah. Like starting at 100 micrograms a day,
28:54Speaker 1I prefer post workout and always eat a little carbs with it. JD likes to pre workout, get a bigger pump pre workout for sure, especially with little carbs. I think post workout, you're getting a little bit more muscle actual development because
29:07Speaker 1it's the biggest thing, it's a nutrient partitioner. Right? So it is just gonna every nutrient you eat is just gonna suck right in to where your body's asking it for. So post workout, your muscles are sponges. Just give me food. I need to rebuild because you just tore me down. It'll suck it back up. But also, again,
29:29Speaker 1not have it show due to my GF-one, okay, then then eat a whole bunch. You're gonna wake up in the morning like stomach just flacks. All of those calories, all that food just sucked up in your muscles. Yeah. Nutrients. That is is that's if you are an active person and those muscles are getting regular exercise.
29:58Speaker 1That's a straight bulker. What's he talking about? Anovar is a cutter. I think that that's from his perspective because he eats so damn well.
30:15Speaker 1and you also cannot control your eating. That's a problem. It might not keep you. You might not be lean. Okay? That could be a problem. Yep. Just so just to put that out there. Okay?
30:31Speaker 1I love you guys. Thank you. My question is I'm a 50 year old female who had a total hysterectomy
31:17Speaker 1I think that you're losing some estrogen somehow. I just don't think that you have the tools inside of you anymore for Kisspeptin
31:29Speaker 1you know, can tell the ovaries to start making some different hormones, but, but they're just not capable for you. Would look at direct hormones.
31:45Speaker 1I just don't think your body isn't, it doesn't have the exact capability to do it right after that. 50.
31:52Speaker 1Yep. So, and mostly just because of that hysterectomy, because of the surgery, because of that.
32:03Speaker 1Look at your talk to your doctor. Yep. Okay? Because there is an ex there's explanation
32:11Speaker 1and we don't know. Nobody knows until we, until you actually do the test to figure it out.
32:20Speaker 1Start there. It's to answer that without seeing your blood work. We have a really good doctor we can connect you with that would go deep into your blood work and probably can give you some really good answers and some, some potential outcomes. It might make you do a poop test.
32:38Speaker 2that's important to us. And that's why we promote certain people. You know, I won't put Will into this when I say this, I'm not huge on Western medicine, but I do have a few out there that do care because they do truly care. And when they're trying to really help and we're complicated,
33:05Speaker 2you know, that stuff comes back around. I'm telling you, I'm going through some of it.
33:09Speaker 2But we can all age well and it all starts with blood work. It all starts with doing some things we don't want to do, like poop tests and all that stuff.
33:17Speaker 2When we get to the bottom of whatever it is affecting us, we can fix it. But we got to know 1st, we got to run tests.
33:26Speaker 20 All right. True. All right. Hello. A 57 year old female dealing with a 50 pounds post menopause weight gain. Bummer
34:00Speaker 2Will it hurt myself in the long run if I have to come off the HGH at some point in the future at my age, what do I have to lose? Need reassurance
34:31Speaker 2five'four frame for the efforts. Thanks guys. Enjoying 1 being a part of your community. So
34:51Speaker 1it could be that, Hey, but, but, but it could be that maybe the CJC Ipah is just starting to work. Okay. It take these things, all these peptides just take a little while, take a couple of weeks to start really kicking in. Who knows? You may just have started them at C and like,
35:05Speaker 1even though it's CJC Ipanda long enough, and then now it's really starting to, yeah, Yeah. Kick things into gear and that's what's causing the hunger because it is a growth hormone secretagogue.
35:44Speaker 1problem is I think is while you're using it is going a little too much, or heck, if you're sensitive to like higher blood sugars or
36:10Speaker 1you're going to be about where your body would naturally be if you never did HGH as far as your natural HGH levels. Okay. It is not really, it doesn't work the same way like a testosterone. If somebody's on testosterone for 5 years,
36:28Speaker 1their body and their nuts are going to be like, Oh crap, I got to start. I got used to not having to make so much.
36:45Speaker 1and not very much, it's not, you're not gonna have this like let down. Okay? I think that you'll take it and your body will be making the normal amount of HGH that it always
37:11Speaker 1because it will be better if to not come off. But I don't think it's causing extra problems when you do come off. Yeah. That makes sense
37:31Speaker 2You know, gaining 50 pounds sucks for anybody. So I think HGH is great. You're 57. I think most people over 40 do
37:39Speaker 2well with it at a low dose. I do think at low dose for women is different. It's a little bit different. 1 IU, I think that will do wonders. We've talked about it numerous times. It's going to take a while for that to even hit its stride. You might feel a little tired at 1st because
37:52Speaker 2HGH can do that to you, but once it hits, man, it's great. I love it. It's, I've said it countless times. It's up there close to the TRT
38:00Speaker 2with me now. You ladies going through the menopause stuff, it's a bummer, man. It's part of life though. You know, I mean, there's, when it comes to peptides,
38:11Speaker 2you know, there's a lot of peptides that are going to help with a lot of that stuff. What are some of the issues women have with menopause?
38:25Speaker 2So if you just slow down and think of that, you can combat that with certain peptides. And I'm not saying you throw the book at it, but you could, you can combat these brain fog. You can talk with, give you some cellular energy NAD,
38:57Speaker 2you can run both of those together. I think they work well. Obviously the intimacy and the dryness down below is the infamous PT-one 141,
39:14Speaker 2and the Wolverine and the TB-five 100. That's just such a perfect product for older women that are going through this types of things. Now that's
39:22Speaker 2a lot of products. I'm not saying take it all, but you could, you know, I generally just said take maybe 4,
39:35Speaker 2and these things can help with that, why not fix it? Probably not his fault. He's a dick.
39:50Speaker 2So I know we've done that 1. It comes up so much. I would say for women, the TRT and the menopause are just obviously
40:04Speaker 2but Retatrutide is obviously going to be the king to help bring down that weight. But again, Tesofensine.
40:10Speaker 1Yeah, I was about to 2nd that, about to say like, yo, I doubled down on the idea of Tesofensine when in doubt, when, when, when unable to do any of the GLPs, Tesofensine isn't is 2nd best.
40:47Speaker 2You know, we grow from this channel. We talk about these things so much and in a lot of conversations
40:52Speaker 2just really intrigued me to like think through things a little bit differently. And Tesofensine
40:56Speaker 0was something that, we talked about. We did a a podcast on it. Push your limits, train with precision, see the results.
41:15Speaker 2Obviously, it's the 1 podcast that got taken down on YouTube. We don't know why. Weird.
41:20Speaker 2a lot of you might have not seen it if you watch on YouTube, but, if you watch on the podcast, it's a good 1. Go check it out. We did a deep dive, and Will and I had discussed it and he loves it. I hated it. So I realized that I didn't give it a fair shake. So as I got off peptides in the last month or so,
41:37Speaker 2that was the 1 I tried and I freaking actually told you I loved it. I obviously, whenever I felt when I was in Cancun was probably not the test of fancy. Now here's
41:46Speaker 2what I don't feel. I don't get any food noise blockage. I still have been craving sugar.
41:56Speaker 2you crave sugar. I've been craving sugar like a son of a bitch lately. He says, that's it. So
42:11Speaker 2by the time the coffee's done, I feel like I'm already awake because I have 0.5 cup of coffee and then I do my readings and I'm just ready. So,
42:19Speaker 2I've been taking it a month and I've been loving it, but I don't feel the food noise blocking. How much are you taking? Just 1 pill. So 50 was that 50? Try to take 2. So your, I think that those are
42:38Speaker 1I take 2 pills a day. And yeah, absolutely. It's the energy. Here's the thing with the food, the sugar. Like, I am so used to eating
42:47Speaker 1ice cream, like, every night, like a little pint of ice cream. Okay, guys? I just did that forever years.
43:04Speaker 1my brain just out of habit, I was like, okay, it's time for the ice cream. Right? And I wasn't necessarily like wanting it, but this is, well, I bet I will And want
43:25Speaker 1dopamine spike in this time. It just and so like I would throw away 0.5 of the ice cream and then just stop buying them.
43:33Speaker 1So it was more out of habit, but it absolutely, I don't know. Yeah, it helps a lot. And energy, the biggest thing in energy, like I just don't feel like, I don't feel like taking a nap. And it's because it's getting you energy, but it's also boosting your dopamine and happy,
43:47Speaker 1yet energized. And I don't know. I personally want to take naps when I'm like depressed.
43:53Speaker 1And I don't say like, I get like fully depressed, but there are times where I get moods that where I'm like, not
44:00Speaker 1could put when I'm motivated about something, I don't care how little sleep I got. I'm not tired. Yeah, right. So that's kind of the way it makes me feel. Like, damn, dude, I'm looking forward thing to things,
44:14Speaker 1well, there usually is a lot to look forward to, but yeah, the energy and just happiness,
44:20Speaker 1makes you wanna be like, be awake and keep doing things. I get it. I get it. I think works. Think it's fucking awesome. I also I stand corrected.
44:30Speaker 1I would think about maybe switching to CJC and go to take Tessa. Definitely Ipah because
44:36Speaker 1your goal is fat loss. Especially at your age and all these things like the belly fat is that's where it's accumulating 1st and the Tessa is going to really attack that. I'd
44:46Speaker 2switch over to that for sure. 0 Yeah. So those are some options that'll help you with some of the menopause stuff and shoot.
44:53Speaker 2We've had women that have tried it and it's worked. I think you're up. I'm up. Okay. Hey guys,
45:00Speaker 1thanks for all you do. Wondering if you could clarify to the best of your knowledge, the amount of time peptides last before mixed
45:10Speaker 1which is mixed. There is no such there's so much conflicting and misinformation out there. Would love any updates that you have also for HGH.
45:24Speaker 1I know pieces of this have been covered in the past, but I just even recently heard from a reputable source that a mixed peptide only lasts 30 days, which I know is not accurate and wouldn't fall in line with dosage guidelines
45:36Speaker 1of the peptide. So I think it might be worth reviewing again with any updated information
45:45Speaker 2I don't think anybody knows exactly. I think anybody that says that they know, they don't know.
45:54Speaker 2Some can be out of the fridge and some cannot. So you can't bulk it together and say peptides and like, it's just like, this is how it works.
46:05Speaker 2I kind of know your answer, but I think we both have changed as we've grown and changed. I'm going to tell you that generally speaking,
46:12Speaker 2if we just kind of bulk them together, a general rule of thumb in my opinion would be 6 to 8 weeks
46:23Speaker 2We've learned a lot about that little son of a bitch dude. Like you eat, you know, like if you, if you watch pep podcasts
46:36Speaker 2We've grown too. So Tesamorelin is in itself, it's changed quite a bit. You can leave it out of the fridge. We would have never thought that a year ago,
46:48Speaker 2again, I don't know if anybody knows exactly, my take is 6 to 8 weeks. That's a good rule of thumb. I think that you'll see in some literature that,
46:58Speaker 1you know, yeah, 4 weeks I've seen that also, but I don't know, primary, like actual, like practical
47:09Speaker 1that is not the case. Right? I think it I don't know. I don't want to just re explain everything he just said because I agree with basically all of it.
47:24Speaker 1a couple of different things like, A, it's like sterile water, right? Hey, people want to mix sterile water. There's a huge difference between sterile water and like bacterial static water. Okay?
47:33Speaker 1Sterile water is used for only like a single use medication because it has no alcohol in there and nothing to kill or ward off bacteria. Sure. Okay? So that's you use sterile water only if you're going to mix something and then do the whole thing right now. Right?
47:49Speaker 1Because bacteriostatic water, you put it in there, it's got a little bit of out the benzyl alcohol in there, that's to help kill off any bacteria. And the bacteria is not to keep you, the peptide user, safe. Right? It's not like, oh, okay, good. I'll put this bacteriostatic water so I won't get a little infection, right? It is there
48:08Speaker 1from microscopic bacteria that will get in there and degrade it and eat it and degrade it
48:24Speaker 1benzyl alcohol in it, right? The no sting water has benzyl alcohol in it. So those are no better or no worse, but you just better use them with the right compounds, especially the AOD water. The
48:38Speaker 1if in The U. Looked at solvent and like your storage and handling procedures, right? So like cool dark place
49:05Speaker 1So you need to be careful with that. Like if you get it, like needs to go right in the fridge,
49:09Speaker 1okay, and not be exposed to light. You'll actually notice kind of an H, I have noticed this HGH going a little bit bad if it starts to burn as you, it's a bit, if you inject it and it stings,
49:21Speaker 1I've used enough like old things and like put together a pattern. Like I see that pattern. The
49:30Speaker 1and Trizepatide for 6 months a year, I think. And she did it and she was like, great, work amazingly.
49:35Speaker 1Right? I know people who've never even refrigerated them, not knowing that they're supposed to and they worked amazing. Okay.
49:48Speaker 1I guess. But like, and that's just in 30 days is not saying, Hey, it goes from 30 days. It's working full efficacy. Day 31, it does not work at all. That's
49:59Speaker 1this person who told you that is saying, Hey, for that specific peptide at about the 30 day mark,
50:26Speaker 1So yeah, dude, that's, that's the best thing we got for you. Yeah. But be good to your, just be good to them. With Tesamorelin,
50:35Speaker 1mixed with cold water. And I wouldn't actually keep in a fridge, especially if it's not too cold. I keep it in a cool dark place. And I would do it. Like guys just use the peptides fast.
50:45Speaker 1A few things you should be able to use last longer than 30 days in the same bottle. Seriously. And like definitely don't get, Hey, I gotta take these 3 peptides for this cycle. Let's mix all 3 of them. Yeah. Don't do that.
51:24Speaker 1Try that. It'll make it, it'll make it crystal less. Depends on how much water I would add. See if you can add more water. I have no idea what the, dilution
51:34Speaker 1that you're putting in there. I think that NAD, the easiest thing to do is if you have thousand milligram
52:03Speaker 1That is to help to not have light get into it. Okay. They make that specifically because NAD is particularly,
53:33Speaker 1Maybe not figure this out, but 4 hours a week. So social net trained social dancer 4 hours a week. I
53:39Speaker 1only occasionally lift weights at the gym once or twice a week. I had just started taking Tesamorelin at 500 micrograms daily last week, as well as 1.3
53:56Speaker 1but even at a low dose, my instant and high fluid retention was just too uncomfortable.
54:01Speaker 1We didn't look good. So I stopped after 2 weeks. I've only tried growth hormone secretagogues,
54:18Speaker 1P. S. Please consider providing the same sort of hormone information for women as you give for men.
54:41Speaker 1a little bit behind the curve on the knowledge 3 of that. We're shit, we're learning. We know more
54:54Speaker 2man. And we have heard so story after story of women getting on testosterone or hormone replacement
55:04Speaker 1they're just so damn complex, like even their bodies compared to us, you know? And so they got a whole bunch more weird shit going on that like it's worse and different, you know, the ovulation thing. Mean, there's
55:39Speaker 1put those as like, that's the question of an of an either or. Okay? They are both trying to accomplish the same end goal.
56:32Speaker 1hence, peptides are just signaling molecules. So it signals the start of the chain, right? And then all these chain reactions occur,
56:56Speaker 1is the end result. K? It's not it's bypassing all those steps and is just giving you the end result for your body to use. K?
57:19Speaker 1It's kind of like AOD, but the opposite. Right? Like AOD is just the fat burning part of the chain. Right? And the IGF-one is just the growth part of the chain. Trying to grow.
58:00Speaker 1120 days, take a couple of week break and maybe do the different 1 and then just rotate that forever. Or if you're going to do HGH, do it and you just do it. You keep going. Both of them are just our long term really to get the max full spectrum benefit
58:15Speaker 1long term like HGH. I'm telling you people like don't even expect it work to work for 6 months,
58:20Speaker 1but 5 years down the road after very consistent use, you're going to look like you did when you started, right? Which is 5
58:32Speaker 1So long term IGF-one, just muscle building added in for short spurts when you know you're going to be trying to build muscle and you know you're willing to eat some good protein and hit it hard and then stop. Yep.
58:45Speaker 1Don't do that. Yep. I wouldn't do the IGF-one unless you're lifting. I would, and I don't know what was her age. I'm sorry. 44. Okay.
58:54Speaker 1I'd still I would I understand the CJC Ipoh is really strong and it causes that water retention. Good for you for noticing.
59:06Speaker 1and maybe give that a break, do it again, and and see how that feels. You can start the HGH. I don't know. Maybe wait a little bit till you're a little bit older. It'll be more effective now. And I guess I'm just not I really aren't I'm really not that worried about side effects from HGH.
59:22Speaker 1you know, I'm really not that worried about it. At low dose. At low dose. Women, 1 IU day. Sit.
59:45Speaker 1And then people go, oh, well, I should do it at night. Well, here's the deal. The doctors are giving it to people who are like very low, critically low in HGH. At night when we're sleeping is our biggest pulse.
59:59Speaker 1if you still have a healthy pulse at night, but then you give yourself age to age, your body will go, hey, look how much I got. Let's not make as big of a pulse. So I do it in the morning where you don't compete, let your body do a good job at night.
1:00:18Speaker 2Yeah. I think she just started what you say last week with the Reta and the Tesa. So I would just keep stick with that. You know, I see, I think a little bit goes a long way, especially you just started it, so give it a shot. I would just very simply add AOD. I've talked about it numerous times, just Tessa and AOD. The
1:00:35Speaker 2experience that we speak of, I just have my wife on it numerous times and it just radically changes her body. So I would just stick with what you're doing. Don't add anything except for the AOD. You could add in some HGH later, but start there, go slow, see how you do and just keep it easy. Just do that.
1:00:59Speaker 2the past couple of weeks and now I love it. You guys do an awesome job at breaking down quality knowledge. Keep it up. I'm 28 years old, 6 to 7 days a week. I train 6 to 7 days a week. I eat 4 to 5 meals a day, super clean. Push your limits, train with precision,
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1:01:54Speaker 2and depression. My mental health wasn't the best. I decided not to take any more due
1:02:15Speaker 2I've just ordered Selank and Semax and just can't wait to try it. I think those would do well for you. I just wanted to know your best choice for boosting mental clarity
1:02:29Speaker 2my own business and work 6 to 7 days a week. I just didn't want to find an alternative peptides,
1:02:53Speaker 2is always the best, but I do know some people need it. My wife needs a tiny, tiny bit and you've seen her on and off it. Trust me, she's better on a tiny, tiny bit. She does a tiny, tiny bit.
1:03:04Speaker 2you know, I have changed with my idea on that. So some people just need it. But dude, here's the thing, you're 28.
1:03:13Speaker 2But this is the epidemic going on into the world that we live in. You have 3 15 testosterone
1:03:21Speaker 2Dude, you must be tired. Yeah. Shit. Like, let's talk about the SSRIs and brain fog and all that stuff, which is probably the genesis of the problem is your testosterone.
1:03:31Speaker 2You're not supposed to have 3 15 testosterone. You're not supposed to have 15 free testosterone.
1:03:39Speaker 2I think if you just fix that problem, even though you're 28, holy shit, whatever you need to be on testosterone, dude, the jury has come back and
1:04:13Speaker 2You're so young, you're able to do that. If you were 20 years older, you probably can do that at those levels,
1:04:18Speaker 2but just changing your testosterone dude is going to change it. I would start there. You can still do Selank and the C Max, but start with just getting your testosterone,
1:04:31Speaker 1Change your life. That will probably, I mean, you're, yeah, maybe you might be 28, but that was those scores just scream that you have to, you have to have it. Some people can put it off, but like you really should. And that will probably just solve all of these problems. Literally.
1:04:57Speaker 1And it's a serotonin reuptake inhibitor, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. And basically serotonin
1:05:15Speaker 1Duh. I've never been a depressed kid, you know? But like, hey, when you start doing drugs and then you stop them So and you're
1:05:23Speaker 1I started taking it and I didn't take them for a while and then I was like, I'm so tired all the time. Like, so that's your brain fog. Also long term SSRI and drug use just will kill, will hurt your testosterone,
1:05:37Speaker 1I feel you do get off of that. Now, I mean, I know and I don't wanna sound too hypocritical, but like Tesofensine, guess what? It's a triple. It's an SSRI.
1:06:06Speaker 1You wanna if you're gonna stop doing it, you probably should wean down a little bit from Tesofensine.
1:06:14Speaker 1You may not need that at all, though. I would probably I would go with the testosterone 1st, See if that solves all your problems. Then, then go on. There's
1:06:44Speaker 1For sure. Give it a month. Give it a month. Let us know if you got questions. Okay. Yep.
1:07:06Speaker 1Early January weighing in at 86 kilos. I'm now currently cycling on and off. Clo as I suffered years of inflammation from poor mobility,
1:07:19Speaker 1Since starting this journey, I'm now running pain free and playing well. I'm also stacking with Retatrut, Tesamorelin,
1:07:25Speaker 11 mega day, fasted before bed. I was wondering, is there anything I can take without having to branch into the steroid world to build my lean muscle,
1:07:37Speaker 1build my lean muscle mass and, but still lose fat. Keep up the good world. Love to hear from you guys. A massive fan of from the land down under.
1:08:01Speaker 1he like pitched from the Oakland A's in the farm team and ran track and you dubbed. Was a little kid and he would teach me like, well, it's just 1 on 1, just rest like scrumming. We'd put the ball in the middle of us and just like,
1:08:10Speaker 1know, push against each other. Then it's tough to play rugby 1 on 1 because you have to kick the ball to somebody else. But anyway, so we have a blast, but he said he played some some guys who were tough. And he was like, yeah, I'm not built for this. He's tall and skinny.
1:08:36Speaker 1I mean, I can't believe that the rugby doesn't burn all the fat you need, but SLU-3P- what the cool thing here is like, it's going to boost your endurance. It's going to help nutrient partitioning. You're not going to like lose as much muscle when you're, because the food that you eat, your body's gonna, oh shit,
1:09:07Speaker 10 1 5 1 6 is awesome. That will just boost the hell out of your endurance. Yep. And you'll be running circles around people,
1:09:19Speaker 1before sugar. So it kinda puts you in the state of ketosis. So you're gonna burn some good belly fat with Cardrian, but you're also gonna kick ass on the field. Do you? And
1:09:33Speaker 1wouldn't do any more Retta because you're not gonna have enough energy to run around
1:09:46Speaker 2Yeah, I think that's good, dude. I mean, there's many options. Sloop's great. You can use cart. Yeah,
1:10:08Speaker 2You can, you're 26, dude, so you can throw in a little bit of fasting like me and it'll go a long way for a 26 year old. If you could like 3 days a week, maybe just cut out breakfast and just eat from like 12 to 8 Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
1:10:30Speaker 2are great, but you know what, if you get back to the basics and just do some of the things that God gave us, which is nutrition,
1:10:39Speaker 1you're 26. It's going to work really well. I would say creatine also, that's a good over the counter, like good performance enhancer that's,
1:10:48Speaker 1is, it really freaking works. And so people say, so here's gonna be the thing is people go, oh, well, creatine, like, makes you pull your muscles. Okay?
1:10:56Speaker 1Okay. That can happen, but it's not because it makes your muscles weaker. Yeah. That's the general thought is it makes your muscles weaker or it starves them for water.
1:11:06Speaker 1It actually kind of does the opposite. The problem here's why people pull muscles is because it literally
1:11:12Speaker 1makes your muscles it's a it's a ATP. ATP is our cellular energy, right? This makes us do this really fast. You know you've burnt out your ATP when you feel your muscles burn.
1:11:27Speaker 1which is the lactic acid. And that muscles are burning like, shit, I just exhausted my ATP. Right? Well, creatine
1:11:34Speaker 1tells it when it drops to ADP, pushes it back up to ATP. So your endurance is longer and you are stronger and you have better output
1:11:42Speaker 1and for longer. So you give a person who has a muscle whose now muscle is working is stronger without
1:11:56Speaker 1And now you're gonna put more stress onto it and it's not used to that, right? It's gonna contract harder.
1:12:01Speaker 1And there is when we get muscle pulls, right? Because it's basically like working too well. It's
1:12:10Speaker 1meant, what it's mentally trying to do. And that's where we get some kind of muscle pulls. So
1:12:15Speaker 1it's not crazy. It's not going to just, you're not going to flex in your, in your bicep tendons and just muscles going to snap off of your forearm.
1:12:22Speaker 1So if you're taking creatine and running and being athletic, you know, just drink enough water and warm up
1:12:29Speaker 1and just take care of yourself and you should be just fine, but it really will help and will help keep muscle on and keep weight on you.
1:12:37Speaker 1And B12, I don't know for you and the dude, the last question, just some like vitamin
1:12:46Speaker 1I don't know. That gives me that'll help some brain fog. That'll help some energy, etcetera. Hell yeah. I love beats. Okay. I'm up. I
1:13:05Speaker 2that I had have ignored for too many years. Physical therapy is going well and my doctor gave me Wolverine stack to help recovery. Wow, good doctor.
1:13:14Speaker 2But I live alone and have trouble reaching that spot in my back to try to inject locally near the injury. Is injecting my abdomen just wasting the BPC-one 157
1:13:27Speaker 2Or do I need to try to figure out a way to get into that spot in my back no matter what?
1:13:36Speaker 1And I wish it's not a waste of time. I'd keep doing it. But if you can find a girlfriend who can inject you in the back, that's a little bit better. You know, we always say that that BPC is not going to help like structural
1:13:52Speaker 1rib, it's not going to put the thing back. But what it will do is once it's set back, right? How do things stay in socket? Well, have connecting tissues, right? They have ligaments and tendons that connect to them and hold them solid. So that's why whenever you dislocate anything, you get tons of swelling because you've torn all those ligaments and tendons, right? It's the only way that they got dislocated out of the joint.
1:14:17Speaker 1If we can set it, we know it's set back in the right place, then fill that stuff up with BPC TB and to help rebuild all those connective tissues and that strength so it doesn't dislocate
1:14:33Speaker 1All right. Hey guys, love the podcast and the new community. So thankful for your knowledge on peptides. Finding reliable info on the internet can be challenging
1:14:41Speaker 1And it's often conflicting anyway, 51 years old male currently on Retta 8 Migs a week. That's a lot. Does that say that? Yep. AOD 0.25
1:14:57Speaker 1Tessa 1 Megan Knightley. My question is when to start TRT and HGH. My goal is to lose more weight.
1:15:26Speaker 1where that is or what I want to look before I gain some lean muscle. Okay. Boom. How old are you? 51. 51. Start it now. Do it now.
1:15:39Speaker 1So like you've done a lot of really good work. Good for you. You know, you've lost a ton of weight and,
1:15:46Speaker 1through that you've obviously guarantee you've built some habits and you've learned a lot about yourself, right? Nobody loses 60 pounds or whatever.
1:16:07Speaker 1you're just going to keep up with those same bad habits that got you that heavy weight. And now you're doing tests and now your cholesterol is going to go up and now you're just going to gain a bunch of bad weight, right? And be lazy and horny and that's it.
1:16:20Speaker 1But you've proven it. I think now's the time. And now you're probably starting to plateau. Okay. Because it just is what it is, right? That extra weight's easy to get off at the beginning. Then it becomes harder and harder. The test is not do nothing but like boost your metabolism.
1:16:36Speaker 1We add muscle so that fat and everything is going to just even come off even easier and faster. Plus your age is telling us you're ready. You need age. You to probably need it.
1:16:48Speaker 2If you want to take a blood test to tell that, have that tell it to you. Go ahead. 0 Yeah. Whatever your goal weight is, you're down to 2 13 from 2 50. I mean, dude, you're doing a lot of rudder too. I would try to start to start to bring that back and just really focus on healthy
1:17:08Speaker 2You know, that's a lot of Reta, man. I think Reta goes a really long way. I'd pull that back a little bit and start to titrate
1:17:28Speaker 2You can increase your AOD to probably 500 micrograms daily. Yeah, definitely an AOD. The AOD and I think we're running well together. But again, I
1:17:40Speaker 2This is gonna be a little bit cheaper for you. Why not? And watch what the TRT does for you, dude. And
1:17:46Speaker 1wean down for Laredo. Wean down. Don't just stop. Don't just drop from 8 to 4, Right? Drop from 8 to 7.5
1:17:59Speaker 1So just slow, be easy on yourself. You know, it's not, it is not killing you right now, but it's a good idea to do less, especially if you want to be able to eat enough to add some muscle. So,
1:18:11Speaker 1and yeah, that's it dude. That's it. Good stuff, man. These are good. These are good, good educated questions. I guess what I do like is like most people nowadays
1:18:25Speaker 1actually smart. Like the dosing wise, like, okay, cool. Like even, even AM, PM, blah, blah, blah.
1:18:31Speaker 1It's all good. We're not like, oof, boy, we're missing the mark on everything on this question. When did we start doing the Q and A?
1:18:40Speaker 2long have we been doing the Q and A? 6 months, dude? Has it been 6 months? I don't know. It's actually, I think the biggest hit. People like the Q and A, so it's great, man. The questions are getting amazing. Everybody's listening. Everybody's growing. People are getting good at peptides. So man, it's been awesome.
1:19:07Speaker 2on Tuesday, just kind of what's going on with the markets, blah, blah, blah. We'll let them know on what we want to do. Maybe we'll do Tesofensine again on Friday. Shit that 1 didn't get through. Maybe that's something we could do. We'll think about it, but, join school, get enjoyed, hear them in the community. People are just getting so much information and trust us
1:19:25Speaker 2in the next 6 months. It's going to be leaps and bounds. You're going to be loving it. We're going to have so much rad content on there.
1:19:36Speaker 2And we had some cool stuff on there. Will and I even threw out a steroid cycle that we have a cutter and a bulker because we can, you know, some people do that stuff and they wanted to know, so we did it. That can only be on those platforms. And we'll put a lot of that type of content on there. If you don't like that stuff, don't watch that stuff. But if you do, then you have that stuff. We're trying to really like, we love all this stuff. Know, we loved studying it and, and, you know, we've done that stuff when we, in our youth and we know about it. So it's just fun
1:20:15Speaker 1God gave me all that we give us this cool ass thing to like the functions and we know how to make it function