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2:03Speaker 3like to look at it like this. He's earned it. He's earned a little bit of palm. That guy has like written a lot of books and led the way in testosterone replacement.
2:12Speaker 3you take people with a grain of salt, like all the guy knows a lot. He knows a shit ton. I don't really, I mean, really, I guess I don't,
2:20Speaker 4I don't notice him as really pompous. Suppose dropping names, I guess is pompous, but I don't I agree. I mean, a 100% agree. It's like, dude,
2:28Speaker 4he has been around. He's been doing this this like, he's been in this industry really, like, focusing on, like, men's health
2:52Speaker 4As far as I can tell, I don't know what his bank account looks like as far as success, but the fact that you've been continuing to do this and continue to be able to pay people
3:05Speaker 3done some things right. Yeah, it was good. I don't listen to every podcast by any means, but some I do because that 1 was, listened to it yesterday when I lifted it. It was a good, great podcast,
3:23Speaker 4They, that was a good pod podcast to kind of see what's coming down the pike. Hopefully it's illuminating. I know a lot of people who listen to this right are, are, you know, consumers of peptides and not necessarily in the business, but it's also, hopefully it was illuminating and helpful for those of you consumers
3:42Speaker 4you know, why there's such a big turnover maybe in the different websites, right? Why things are out of stock? Why don't they have payment processors? Right? Why don't they, why isn't this like a normal business?
4:17Speaker 4to survive in this industry. And really the only thing they really, because it's not, I mean,
4:22Speaker 4because the peptides are just not dangerous, sorry. They're just not dangerous, but they really wanna
4:28Speaker 4the government and everybody really wants to make it sound like they're dangerous because they know they really work, and so the only thing to do is scare people. But the only recourse they really have is financial institutions, right? Which is a big recourse. Which is a huge recourse, right? That's a huge thing. So you can't get a credit card process. You can't
4:45Speaker 4get credit card process or, you have a business Venmo that's meant for you to have a business that makes money.
4:58Speaker 4Same thing with everything else. So yeah, it's tough. It's tough in that business, but people,
5:04Speaker 4yeah, that's why it's not things may look shady. They're really not. It's just like forcing. And then, and really the bottom line is the banks
5:12Speaker 4open excuse is saying that people who use peptides are shady people. Like that's why that's
5:19Speaker 4are the people buying them are the shady people. That's why a high risk like payment processor, they have to be high risk. What they're talking about high risk is the customers using the payment processor. They're saying that you are shady because you are bad people and you will do chargebacks all the time.
5:41Speaker 4you know, exceptions. Every rule, there are some, yeah, absolutely. There's some assholes out there who do charge of get their stuff and just do chargebacks because they're greedy.
5:54Speaker 4for the most part, hell no, I don't think that anything is at all about, but in fact, I think people actually buying peptides are probably
6:06Speaker 3see things coming down the pike and they're maneuvering for health. 5 Yes, absolutely. But shades of amino acids are unhealthy.
6:20Speaker 3But today is everybody's favorite. And we want to talk real quick about school and that. That
6:38Speaker 3And we were in top 13 right away out the gate, you know, it came out swinging and that grew really Top
6:51Speaker 3Because so many people are active on it. So if you're active on it, keep doing that. You know, it's your community too. We are doing our best to give the best
7:01Speaker 3information that we have, and we don't ever pretend to have it all. We just do our best to give you the best. And that's 1 goal. The 2nd goal equally as important is just to connect like minded people that are
7:15Speaker 3something outside of Western medicine, seeking something, just chasing growth, seeking true health,
7:25Speaker 3all of it. And it's been a rad group of people lifting each other up. Gosh, I love that. I started deleting people off of my social media in 2026.
7:37Speaker 3No, we're talking shit. Like not going to have any of that negative stuff. I'm like, it's been great. It's all clean now for the most part.
7:44Speaker 4Some people swipe through, but delete. And we're going on. So on that school, like again, we've
8:04Speaker 4our school now is essentially dedicated like to peptide of right? This is peptide of the week and like peptide research.
8:47Speaker 4put out a new video and to tell you the new exact name of the school because it is, no longer what it, what it was named. So we'll, we'll put a link on this video because
9:06Speaker 4some damn good information out there for that everybody from All Watch Life can use different protocols, right, for all these questions that people ask, you know, we're trying to make, you know, protocols literally for everybody, for every situation that somebody encounters.
9:20Speaker 3And yeah, so more and more and more is being created and created just to give out to everybody. So for the lead, it'll be some small price tag monthly, but I'm sure anybody that would understand the amount of work that goes in, which is a lot, it would be well worth it just because of the fact that I would imagine you would want to.
9:40Speaker 4And we weren't, dude, we were not here to like rob anybody and provide and charge money for not a good service. So our goal is to make the value proposition
9:49Speaker 4a way better value. In fact, it already is based on the discounts that you get from other stores that we give you for being an elite.
10:35Speaker 4Outside the box, man, those people change the world. Hey, that last menopause thing, you, we will be putting out some good information for, for the ladies and menopause because that's huge. We hear that constantly.
10:48Speaker 3we got new things coming. Yeah. We're going do meetup. Talk a little bit about that. We're going do a meetup. I threw it out there to see if people, how people would bite. Didn't think that they would, and they did.
10:59Speaker 3And we're always curious. You don't know who's listening or what they want, but it's always cool to hear that. There's a lot of people that would probably come and break some bread with us and we'd love to shake your hand and just meet you. You
11:11Speaker 3know, I it's cool. I was up in Vegas and I had a few people notice me up there and it's still a little bit weird,
11:17Speaker 3you know, Hey man, you know, I call you and like, I love getting to meet people for, but just, you know, and like what led our paths together. And it's like, it's such a big world, but at the same time it's small.
11:29Speaker 3I love that stuff. So we get to shake your hand, break some bread. We're going to, we're going to, we were just talking about this. We're going to have La Carneseria,
11:43Speaker 4We'll do this. 1 All right. So here we go. We're getting into question number 1. This is where we're starting. Hopefully we have the same question. Yes. Hello. I have a question for my wife from post pregnancy.
11:57Speaker 4since she will most likely need a C section. I was going to get her onto the Wolverine blend also to offset hair loss. I was planning on getting her on GHK- GHK-
12:09Speaker 4will these peptides be safe for the baby or even get into the baby's system? Also, is there any other peptides you guys would recommend for postpartum?
12:20Speaker 4Good 1. Good 1. All the president hasn't popped up more. Yeah. It's tough. Like, I don't know. I can
12:38Speaker 4You know, it's like baby is born, like literally in the womb, right? You're made of the mother's blood and everything in her. Yet if she has these some like terrible, like I don't know, if she has HIV, like the baby's not gonna have HIV. Like, it's crazy. Like, how does that work? How does the baby not have that? Yeah. Right?
13:03Speaker 3chances are, I mean, there is a heroin addict pass it on to their children. You can be addicted, but you have to be doing a ton
13:20Speaker 4breastfeeding is the challenge. That's the scare that's actually the scarier part because
13:31Speaker 4things in your body and then it's coming out of the breast milk. Generally, like the breastfeeding stage is like- Huge. Huge. Is the stage where you've- Developing of the brain. You don't want anything else in your body that isn't natural. So to be honest,
13:44Speaker 4as far as all of these seem very 3 like, I mean, this is looks as safe as you can get. I just don't feel safe saying
13:52Speaker 3during the breastfeeding stage to take any of this stuff. Yeah. I was going to wonder how you're going to answer that.
14:04Speaker 3shampoo, face serum, go ahead. I mean, I would lean a little bit towards the probably the Wolverine. I just believe it's so, so, so like fine in regards to just, I don't think there's any worry or concern. Anything
14:26Speaker 3on my side of caution. You're for the healing of the wound for the C section. I think that you could run it for a short time.
14:34Speaker 3I wouldn't run anything else, you know, zinc, vitamin C, those things will help with wounds and stuff as well. Why mess with it? Why even mess with it? You know, there's a lot of what ifs, but
14:59Speaker 4that's the stuff that like, hey, you can have, you know, you can do too much GHKCU and it can harm you. Like,
15:05Speaker 4I would say no on that 1 for sure because it could get into the breast milk. And, you know, she'll be
15:36Speaker 4and then leave some stretch marks. Yeah. 1 of the easier ways to tell somebody's age is neck and chest. Right? Yeah, we're smoker. Yeah. Yeah. And smoker, why? Because smoking nicotine, like, deoxygenates
15:53Speaker 4if you have less oxygen and less good blood flow coming to the skin, that's why smokers have wrinkles because their skin is dying at a faster rate than
16:02Speaker 3regular people. Yeah. They're not getting all the nutrients that they should be getting. Thing is smoking is kind of not that many people smoke anymore. I think I was walking the other day. I'm like, is somebody smoking? Like, I haven't heard smoke that smell in a long time. It's gone. Every once in while I haven't smoked in
16:16Speaker 313 years, I think. Well, no, no, no, Maybe 10, something like that. I think 5 years I gave up smoking, but,
16:22Speaker 3I have sobriety, but man, every once in while I'll get a smell of a cigarette and I'll just figure it for a quick 2nd.
16:28Speaker 30, I had that old smell, but it's crazy. You remember like, oh gosh, you feel dirty smoking. Yeah. Like at the end of the day, I was like, you
16:36Speaker 4freak when you go to the elevator. It's nuts to think, like, I think I was like, when I was in college, you could still smoke in bars. Right?
16:44Speaker 4Imagine today, like, you're in a bar in a crowded ass bar, right, where you're squeezing through people and people got cigarettes in their hands. You know? It used to get ashed on you, you know, holes burnt in your clothes,
16:55Speaker 4and it's just disgusting in there. Like, we can't even really imagine that nowadays, but that used to be just commonplace
17:05Speaker 3the ashtray. They're eat the pancakes, take a drag, get a cigarette. Oh man. Yeah. Yeah. When I, when I had flown up for, I used to 3 fly for a job and do sell stuff and flew all over and, and dude, Missouri still smoked
17:33Speaker 3guy who found peptide 5 months ago and they have changed my life. All right. Body comp and health. I found you guys about a month ago and have listened to all shows. My question is related to supporting
17:50Speaker 3Early fifties, great shape. Retta 3 times, it says a month, but I'm assuming that 3 times a week, 5, 6, 120 pounds, very healthy. And I'm about to begin TRT.
18:46Speaker 4That was quite a bit. That's quite a bit. And I think that, so 1st of all, what the hell is chalation therapy? So what it is is somebody who has too much heavy metals of whatever kind, right, that are poisoning their blood.
19:06Speaker 4stirs things, Put that in. And it just grabs onto all the the metals in your blood and pulls them all out. Okay. And they use that as like, this is supposed to be a,
19:24Speaker 4the metals lead mercury have caused extreme fatigue, brain fog, right? The cognition issues. So the doctors have said, Hey, you need to have this therapy done. You need all your heavy metals pulled out. So are all these heavy metals that should not be in there. The problem is that it is, it can be very rough on a person's body. Like they, like he said, because it's pulling all the good nutrients and minerals out of your body. Okay. That are we need to have some level of
19:58Speaker 4concern is it's going to pull everything out and we need to, you need to kind of replenish all of that stuff.
20:05Speaker 4I'm sure the doctor has told you some other vitamins to take, right, to replenish what they're pulling out.
20:10Speaker 4But I think that attacking some of the symptoms to get your body health, I think glutathione is the number 1 thing that you should that you really, really, really should be doing.
20:28Speaker 4when you're after you've pulled all that stuff out, your body's going to be kind of beat down. Think that indirectly the Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin is a good idea just to help some, with some, some growth recovery. Dihexa is a really good idea.
20:45Speaker 4Absolutely. You might just learn that she just likes that a lot. I do. I like it a lot and I take it consistently
20:52Speaker 4and nobody, can't like the BPC oral blend is good for every single person in the world. Like you're, everybody needs their gut health to be, to be better. And
21:05Speaker 4Honestly, not really. That's kind of a lot. It's a lot, but it's not too much. And none of these are being are redundant. You kinda look at
21:12Speaker 4you you are you're losing a kind of a broad spectrum of of things during this therapy. And so it's kinda nice to enhance your body in a broad spectrum on the way after.
21:23Speaker 4So that's what I got. The the controversy on the Schalace stuff is there's a lot of, like, health clinics that are just saying, hey, do
22:01Speaker 4like, oh, you don't have any heavy metal poisoning. You don't have extra high levels. You know, you're fine, but metals are bad,
22:21Speaker 3have done it. I don't know if that would fix your bride's problem, but it might be worth it to do 1st before
22:29Speaker 3you do this. I don't know the comparison in regards to prices and all that stuff. Would imagine your insurance covers this Ipu probably not, but I've done it. And you basically,
22:38Speaker 3it's like an oil change, a blood change. They take out blood from you and then they put it through the system and it cleans out heavy metals and toxins
23:02Speaker 3And they are, it's big in Dubai and in places like that, but they definitely are doing it here. Lee,
23:08Speaker 3Nurse Lee from here that we had on the podcast does that. That's where it did it. So you might want to check that out. In regards to
23:21Speaker 3I don't know. My opinions on that has changed in recently. I used to take a lot and I can tell that I think I do want to, I tone it down and how do you know it's doing what? Right? So
23:42Speaker 3old school. I think you should add in some fasting for your bride. Now women and men are different in regards to what
23:55Speaker 3know, God knows what He's doing and He can heal the body. Our body heal does heal itself. Fasting is truly, truly, truly amazing. My belief is if you get cancer, should do a 25 day fast.
24:07Speaker 3It thrives on glucose. You suffocate the hell out of that glucose and there's been huge, huge,
24:27Speaker 3fall off and brand new ones take their place. So think about an extended fast on how that would be. So I would definitely recommend it and try it,
24:39Speaker 4Hey, if you got cancer, what do you got to lose? You 25 days of being really hungry. That's what I said. Shit.
24:44Speaker 3I mean, what's 25 days out of your whole life? Like walk into like a time bomb and like inject yourself with poison.
24:50Speaker 3Again, I'm not judging, but I walked my sponsor through it. I'd never seen it. It's brutal.
24:58Speaker 3Fasting for 25 days or injecting yourself with a time bomb that you hope you don't die. Yeah, shit. That's
25:05Speaker 3So hope that helps. I think if you do some of that stuff, it'll, it'll work for her. Good luck on that. Keep us posted. Yep. Yep. I am all right. I recently got my blood results back. My cholesterol,
25:18Speaker 4were out of range on the high side and out of range. My diet is tuned in low carb, high fat, 1 g protein per pound of body weight. Are there any peptides that you know of that would help, that would address this? If
25:31Speaker 4if not, do you know any other way you can address this without putting my money towards big pharma?
25:36Speaker 4Know, I don't know of any other way. Oh wait, I lift 4 times a week minimum with 30 minute cardio, 30 minutes cardio. I understand you guys aren't doctors, but honestly I trust you more than more than a ton of them. Anything that helps boys. Thank you. God bless. So
25:59Speaker 4semi indirectly, but that's what I would try 1st. And I would do a low dose. Like I wouldn't go crazy. I think that for this purpose Does he say his body weight?
26:12Speaker 4he's up on his exercise. More cardio. So Retta, I'd low dose it, right? I'd start with like 0.5 a milligram 3 times a week and do that consistently for like 2 months and then go get those, go get yourself tested again to see what happens. Also, I know you say, do you cardio, but cardio is a huge thing that will help this. So do more, try,
26:38Speaker 4that I'm sure you've looked up some other, but those types of things. So good fiber. That means like lots of vegetables,
26:58Speaker 3So that's what I got. Yeah. My opinion's going be a little different. 1st, I would start off with what's high and subjective. And if you're going to ask my opinion, I think that's a bunch of bullshit. You know, I've studied cholesterol just because of the carnivore diet and ketogenic type diets. I don't believe I don't trust doctors in any form about saying high cholesterol. We saw a run around like 3 50 give or take cholesterol and everybody was thriving and doing well. And now all of sudden at 200, they try to give you a statin drug and do
27:29Speaker 3sir. Whatever you do, do not go on a statin drug run from any doctor that wants to prescribe it. A lot of people don't realize that a lot of the problems that lie with people
27:42Speaker 3Cancer is in low cholesterol. There's just so many problems, low cholesterol. It's so subjective on what the numbers
27:57Speaker 3That started changing in the late seventies when they started to get people off fat because the sugar companies want to sell more sugar. So they took fat out of the food
28:06Speaker 3and they had to replace it with something because there was no taste because fats the taste and they replaced it with sugar. And then came seed oils and everybody got fat. So when you eat fat, you don't get fat. That is amazing for you. What's the 1st thing that we eat?
28:21Speaker 3Breast milk is full of fat and cholesterol. And there's a reason because it develops brain, baby's brains and whatnot.
28:30Speaker 4I'll stop there, but I am not in agreement with him. He's right though. Like what is high? I would look at your numbers. Some
28:37Speaker 3get, or some doctors are just not. Try to put my dad on stat and then I'm like, dude, not even tell me that he was always considering it. I'm like, do you not know who your son is? I'm the king of fat dad.
28:49Speaker 3But that's, I would, I would say that he got it right. Tesa Retta, I would say would be my 1st. 0 yeah, Tesamorelin. Right. Those 2 would be great.
29:10Speaker 3but we're so programmed to take something. So are we, we're used to it. Like, what can I take to feel better?
29:15Speaker 3And I think if we slap slow down and get to the basics of life, again, I believe God knows what he's doing and our bodies know how to heal themselves if we properly feed it and give it the proper nutrition.
29:32Speaker 3but again, we're programmed to take something. So if you're going to take some LILRETTA, Tesa, a couple of other ones that will be helpful, I think for your gut, there's going to be KPV, Wolverine,
29:43Speaker 3all those will be pretty well for you. But I'd say fasting, man, and I would do, please not don't take a statin.
30:04Speaker 3drastically. I mean, I don't think anybody truly knows the answer to this. If they tell you then that's
30:10Speaker 3in my opinion, don't listen to that person because if anybody tells you they know, they probably don't know. It's kind of a guesstimation,
30:29Speaker 36 to 8 weeks. What's your take on that? I'd say about that. Yeah. Rough. I mean, here's the thing. Don't mix your peptides if you're not going take them. Do not mix peptides, do a shot and then leave it for 3 months and go, Oh shoot, I still have some MOTS-1C. Like you're not doing it right. You just paid money for that.
30:44Speaker 3Most peptides will be done in a few weeks, so you should be good. If you leave it, will it still work? Sure. Will it be the full potency? No. No. So
30:55Speaker 4you got some time. Keep in the fridge. It will probably it'll retain. I mean, like I would say that
31:16Speaker 4Light fluctuations is bad for it. But yeah, I think you're right. I think that on the super conservative end on maybe the ones that go that degrade
31:30Speaker 4and she was up to us. She literally had a bottle of, I think, Semaglutide in my fridge for a year,
31:36Speaker 4came back and did it again and it worked just fine. Yeah. Fully, fully worked great. Yeah. My bill people also who've, who've literally done kind of the same thing and then was like, oh, 4 months later, oh shit, I didn't know I need to refrigerate it and it still works great.
31:51Speaker 4And if anybody's right. If anybody gives you a diff like there is no way, sorry folks, we do not know that, hey, like MOTS-3D degrades at a 2% rate. Yeah.
32:12Speaker 3saying, nobody knows. Maybe 1 day. It's not there yet. Maybe not. Yeah. Just do your peptides. Just do the peptides. Easy enough. Right.
32:21Speaker 4I'm loving Retta and I tell everyone I know about it. My daughter-in-law is intrigued and very worried about gaining weight once she stops.
32:28Speaker 4I don't see a lot of information about women who go off, Retta, probably because why would you?
32:36Speaker 4if your hormones are optimized, diet is dialed in, exercise is happening, and you're sleeping, you should be able to maintain weight.
32:43Speaker 4What other reassurances can I give her? Thanks so much. Okay. I mean, here, that's a valid question. Okay.
32:53Speaker 4yeah, you can lose, you could probably gain some weight back, right? Because it does have a, some effect on your appetite.
33:03Speaker 4or I mean, our metabolism is tied to how much food we actually put in our, how many calories our body is used to think of it that way. So
33:14Speaker 4maximum, like lowering your calories, let's say the 500 calories a day, which I, which I don't think, hopefully nobody is doing. But if you do that lower to 500 calories a day, do that for a month. And then, and you're able to maintain it because you're on Reta. And then all of a sudden take the Reta out and now your hunger goes up 1 and you start eating 3,000 calories a day. You're going to gain weight 100%
33:57Speaker 4add muscle while you're on it. So you add the more muscle we have, the faster our metabolism
34:03Speaker 4and the less likely that you're going to gain any weight back because your muscle just burns that fat off.
34:09Speaker 4while you're on it, keep eating, right? Don't just stop eating. Retta, the benefit to Retta is that you don't, it's not like you just go, I don't want to eat any food at all. It's just kind of forces small portions, small frequent meals on you, but that's good. Make sure you're eating enough protein so you keep in fact, maybe hopefully even gain a little bit of muscle
34:31Speaker 4you have to actually at low doses, like it has been shown like this is good for you. So, but if you want to come off, just ever so slightly weaned down
34:41Speaker 4and stop. If you're going, oh wow, I have like a big urge, then chill. There's nothing that says you can't wean down and then stay for a couple of weeks until your body gets, you know, balanced out and then keep weaning down. Okay. Give yourself time,
34:58Speaker 3Eat protein. Keep muscle on. Well, that's what keeps metabolism fast and that's what keeps fat from coming back. Yeah, my daughter-in-law was intrigued, but very worried about gaining weight once she stops. So I'm assuming she wants to take it to stop, to lose weight. So she, I'm assuming she needs to lose weight or wants to lose weight. So like getting caught up in what ifs is silly. Like there's, you know what I mean? I hate the what if game? Like, what if this, what if that? I would be some analytical friends and like, I'm like, Dude, bro, like, you're what if ing me?
35:29Speaker 3You are going to lose weight. That's what you're going to do. Be positive, think positive, talk positive. And that's really like how life works. Like start talking,
35:37Speaker 3you know, good things into your life. You're going to lose weight. You're going to eat better. You're going to change your life. Start talking to yourself about that. So let's not talk about the what ifs.
35:46Speaker 3And we already handled in regards to titrate down. You can always go back on. People do it all the time. So if you need to lose weight, this is going to help you get there. Don't worry about you gaining the weight back. It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Right? Same thing. It's like, it's better to have
36:04Speaker 3lost a bunch of weight and then gain some back than to never have lost any weight. This guy nailed it. The hormones optimization diet is dialed exercise happening. You got it. So if you do that, you're good. Good to go. All right. All
36:30Speaker 3is marketed for muscle growth, recovery, sleep, but Tesamorelin is for visceral fat. Wouldn't that do the same thing? That's a very good question. Actually, I really
36:54Speaker 4doesn't my pituitary do the same thing if it's stimulated by this thing or that thing? Right?
37:20Speaker 4and trying to produce growth. Okay? That will produce a way bigger effect. Well, way more growth hormone. Okay?
37:32Speaker 4So that's a huge difference that in Tesamorelin, because Tesamorelin, the whole point is it stimulates pituitary and pulses, right, just like our body does. So quick quick hits.
37:43Speaker 4But then if we go CJC with no DAC, okay, the whole point of that is to make it natural, look like it's natural,
37:52Speaker 4So now we got 2 things that are pretty much the damn same. Like, you're right, dude. They're very close. The thing is though the Tesamorelin because based on because of its amino acid design,
38:18Speaker 4here. It will actually kind of stimulate and activate a bit more fat burning on your liver as opposed CJC
38:40Speaker 4is really with, say, like a broad signaling 1. So it is gonna help a little bit more recovery because it's focusing more on everything on 3 that area. Whereas Tesamorelin is focusing its efforts
38:50Speaker 4on your abdominal and your liver. That's the best answer I possibly can think that's right. It's
38:56Speaker 4a tough question. It's a bad, it's a really good question too. I think just broke it down perfectly. CJC
39:01Speaker 3is going to focus on sleep recovery and Tesamorelin is going to focus on that belly fat. Are they very similar? Yes. A lot of people have reactions to CJC more and more and more and more the longer we do this, do we run into people that have histamine responses to CJC in particular? So if I had to choose, it's always going to be Tesa.
39:24Speaker 456 year old male, 5 11, 200 pounds, 10% body fat, and pretty jacked now thanks to you 2 guys. Since
39:50Speaker 42 mg times 3 days a week, MOTS c s s 31, 5 amino s 5 amino 1 m q. High dose of SLU-three 32.
40:01Speaker 4I also take glutathione, HCG 2 times a week. I'm coming to end about 16 weeks. I wanted your opinion on what to do next. I'm an elite masters athlete, CrossFit,
40:10Speaker 4HYROX, DECA, and looking to continue to improve my endurance engine and strength. I train 15 to 20 hours a week and looking to just keep getting stronger and better as an athlete. I've been,
40:22Speaker 4I have been such an inspiration to my school. I'm a teacher, community, and family by trying to get help everyone I touch be healthier version of themselves. Thanks again. Can't wait to hear your opinion. Boom. Yo. Yeah. Sounds like you've kicked some ass, seriously. Hell yeah. That's rad. That's awesome. Go ahead. You can throw out throwing some answers. I mean, you got a lot. I think, for you,
40:44Speaker 3you're on point, man. Here's some here's some stuff that you could switch it up. You obviously know what you're doing. You
40:56Speaker 3some of the things. Think after a while, the MOTS-8 necessarily want to go give it a break. I'm just speaking of with experience.
41:14Speaker 3You need to get HGH now. HGH is like right next to, they're like best friends. TRT and HGH to me are like best friends. So I would say add an HGH,
41:23Speaker 3no more than 2 IUs, Will might say maybe 3, depends on how big he is. Five'eleven, I'd say 2 IUs.
41:40Speaker 3I have not noticed a big difference in strength or body composition is going to be IGF-1LR-three.
42:45Speaker 3you can contain that in your discipline, which I'm assuming you are because you sound like you're an avid lifter and whatnot, I think MK-676
42:58Speaker 3I'd compare I I personally have taken both, so I compare it to Anabar. Now there's people that are gonna disagree with that. I'm just telling you my experience of taking a both. I I I felt the same. I felt like I looked the same. The only difference is the food thing, which I'm pretty damn disciplined. So that for me was fine, but you will get size. So if you want that and
43:27Speaker 3And the last 1, last 2, I'll say, Cardene. You can replace the Cardene with SLU-3. I think you can stay on the SLU-3.5 are going to both give you stamina.
43:36Speaker 3Cardene's great. I remember years and years ago, Will had brought it up to me and so I obviously started reading about it and I remember I took it. I loved it. I thought it was great. I definitely felt like I had more stamina in the gym. So card reading is great. I think you should maybe replace that with SLU-4A bit,
43:51Speaker 3give it a break and then go back on in 16 weeks or whatever. And the last 1, I'll just say just for your immunity, you're getting old and we all, I love this 1. It's TA-one Thymosin Alpha-one boost
44:07Speaker 3your stack with another stack that would I believe equally as well. Add the HGH still no matter what, my opinion. Yep.
44:22Speaker 4will love Carter and it's going to, you're going to kick so much ass. Try that, Try that for sure.
44:31Speaker 4if to add some muscle, it's just gonna make your body just add lean muscle. So there's that. I swear by it. Some fat burners to replace the,
44:41Speaker 4And this loop is kind of so we're thinking, yes, Carderine replaced this loop. Try the try HGH frag 1 76, 1 91, which is basically AOD just a little bit more effective. It's got 1 more amino acid. So either AOD or HGH frag for, to replace as a fat burner to keep you lean.
45:09Speaker 4This time it'll work, it'll work better and you got it. Yeah, it'll work really well on you. That's what I would do for sure. And
45:17Speaker 4stay on it. I wouldn't do anything to your test. Your test just seems to be working great. Don't go any higher than that. You
45:26Speaker 4Shit, man. Everything else you said is great. I agree with it. Make a few little changes and have fun. Keep us posted, See how you do. Yeah.
45:49Speaker 3read that needs to have carbs. I don't take any take with any carbs or take any carbs. Sorry. I figured my fellow carnivore J might,
46:00Speaker 3not many of us carnivores in the world, but does seem to be catching on more and more. Keep up the great work. Just discovered your podcasts and have really been enjoying it. I am trying to recover from a chronically dislocated
46:22Speaker 3Physical therapy is going well. My doctor gave me the Wolverine stack perfect to help with recovery,
46:41Speaker 3or will it still have some benefit or do I need to try to figure out a way to get it in that spot on my back no matter what? That's a great question. I think it's great. Yeah. Question. Yes. Very good question. Go ahead. You can answer them on. I think the
46:58Speaker 3is going to definitely work better with carbs, especially after you lift, you want to have some carbs. This is nutrient partition is going to push those suckers right into the muscle. You've heard Will say, this is 1 of the things that got me super intrigued
47:10Speaker 3by when we 1st kind of started reading about it, he's like, you can have a big carb day and it's just going to like push those carbs into the muscle
47:17Speaker 3and you'll wake up super lean. So I put it to the test. I went and ate a bunch of sushi when I was on carnivore and I woke up lean as hell. So it worked.
47:32Speaker 3what's your objective? There might be some other things that might be better again. MK-six 77 might be better for you.
47:50Speaker 3obviously the, my back, I did not inject it into my back. I injected it sub Q in my stomach. And that was
48:06Speaker 3TB is going to obviously travel better. I think with them both, they just really work well with each other. I mean, sure, it could work a little bit better than BPC if you get to your back.
48:16Speaker 3I think it's going to work great. I think it's gonna work great, just sub Q. Sometimes for me, just, you know, sometimes for me now because I can move, you know, and I'll turn around and just pinch some fat in the back and try to get it as close as I can. And that's just me not trying to have another surgery. I'm not hurting back there, but I don't want her back there ever again. So
48:35Speaker 3I'll kind of twist around. 3 I don't think it's that necessary though, dude. So that's my take.
48:40Speaker 4Yeah. I don't think, I think that just putting, putting in your stomach will systematically work. Like it'll get there.
48:46Speaker 4Works for me to do. Better to be right into your back. But dude, when the app if you just can't, you can't
48:54Speaker 4yeah, getting it as close as you can, hell, you might even wanna just go intramuscular on top of your butt cheek. Good. Yeah. Yeah.
49:00Speaker 4Sure. Every once in a while, you know A lot of people do. Just kind of rotate it from, you know, stomach to there.
49:05Speaker 4It'll get the closer it is. Yeah, the better. Yeah. Work a little bit better close, but
49:10Speaker 4it's still totally worth doing it. A lot of it if you can afford it. Yeah, a lot of it. And then, yeah, he's right on the, I mean, the IGF-one.
49:17Speaker 4Yeah. So somebody who's on just no carbs whatsoever in doing IGF-one, I guess the worry is
49:25Speaker 4well, sugars out of your body and then going into this like, you know, hypoglycemia shock. Right? I don't think that risk is that much, but there is that potential risk. Even if you're on cardio, if you're on carnivore, right, and you are in keto and you're worried about getting thrown out of keto because you have to eat carbs,
49:49Speaker 4carbs are not even gonna throw you out of keto. Okay? Because your body's just gonna whack suck them up and get rid of them. Like rice cake, something like that even like something that's like those
49:59Speaker 3carbs that push it right into your- you're just- There's a little bit of sweet potatoes, a little bit of rice. Yeah. Right after you lift, it might be a little bit better talking to carnivore. So it really will, it will work better or just do MK-six, 7, 7.
50:13Speaker 4Alright. Next 1. Hi guys, as ever, thank you for everything you do. You're building a really helpful community. I've heard you mention a couple of times on the pod recently that particularly
50:38Speaker 4we're doing both things. I'm 56 year old female and I've written in before. This week I started my 1st course of Ipah in the morning and my 3rd course of tests in the evening. So I'm thinking about what to do. I've been taking 500 mg of micrograms of Tessa
50:56Speaker 4but I might scale that back down to 200 and go a little heavier on the Tessa. Also taking
51:08Speaker 4Goal continues to be losing those last few percentages of body fat after a major recomposition and weight loss journey.
51:15Speaker 4Just curious to know the reasoning of your shift because all the information is useful. Thank you so much for your insight and feedback.
51:39Speaker 4is the right thing to do. Okay? They work in conjunction with each other. I have never strayed from that, but what I did stray from is Dosage. Saying is dosages and going, I think that women especially, why?
51:56Speaker 4the gross portion as much. Some do, some really want that muscle gain, but they want the fat burning while keeping lean muscle. Okay? Right. Tesamorelin
52:20Speaker 4Ipamorelin is really the stronger of the growth hormone of the actual growth hormone properties. It's coming from Ipamorelin.
52:29Speaker 4when women have a little too much of that growth hormone, they start to retain a little bit of water. And then that makes them unhappy. So
52:51Speaker 4with the Ipamorelin. I still want to enhance those pulses a bit more, but not at the same rate as the Tesamorelin
52:58Speaker 4because we worry about the water retention potentially for you and we would like, and I bet you want extra extra belly fat burning
53:06Speaker 4and not extra extra growth and water retention. So that is the reason and that's, that is what I said.
53:14Speaker 4Hopefully that made sense. There's my thinking. They're like, yo, I really appreciate the question. That's very good. You're right. Knowledge is just more knowledge is useful. So
53:23Speaker 4that's the thought and do with that as you will. The name of the game though, is about you experimenting
53:32Speaker 4I don't know if you're going to notice any of the difference between 2 50 micrograms and 200.
53:38Speaker 4Maybe I'm just talking for me because I'm 2 50 pounds and like that, like that little bit of an adjustment, I guarantee you, I won't feel for woman and
53:47Speaker 4of your age and weight. Yeah, you might. Absolutely. Yeah. It's always different for women. And I'm
53:53Speaker 3going to be in a different opinion because I just think women do fine with just the Tesa. I just don't really ever recommend the Tesla Impa, but Will has always backed
54:01Speaker 3out. He's talked about it forever. Now, will say your age, I think that what would be rad if you did 1 IU of HGH,
54:08Speaker 3I think that would do wonders alone for you. We're obviously advocates of human growth hormone because it's freaking amazing.
54:26Speaker 3just the test at night. Now, can you up your dose of AOD? Of course you can. It doesn't raise your IGF-one.
54:34Speaker 3There's a fine line of when is it just not when you're just taking more where it's not really doing much.
54:49Speaker 3Like, Will, bit don't notice anything, but for women, a little tiny bit, I added her, Tesa, just a tiny bit. And like she, he just said, she started retaining water like crazy. She did a little bit. And so I would say, try that, try the Tessa at night, HGH in the morning, and then the obvious, if you're trying to get to your goal, you want to expedite it, throw in a little bit of Retta.
55:16Speaker 3There's a reason we talk about it on every podcast like a 100 times because it freaking works. So 0.5,
55:22Speaker 33 times a week would do you wonders. You'll burn that fat right off your girl. Hope that helps. Who's
55:31Speaker 4Question 10. I have an oral BPC question. I've heard JT say several times BPC is the only peptide he would consider giving to his son for an injury. I have a kid going through what we think is Osgood Schlatter.
55:53Speaker 4He's doing better. Still though, as a dad, I can't help but want to do everything in my power to help. Right? Do you think oral BPC could help with some of his inflammation
56:06Speaker 4Injection isn't an option. I don't mind poking myself, but I'm not doing that with my teenager. Thanks. You 2 are awesome. Awesome. I hope the show keeps growing. So Oskins
56:14Speaker 4Osgood Slaughter, the funny thing is I've always I had this too when I was a kid. Like, and it's really
56:21Speaker 4is it feels like jumper's knee, which is patella tendonitis. So it's like right on your tibia
56:40Speaker 4and inflamed. I've always had it in both of my knees, which is crazy. But Ostenslauter is a little bit of like a it's almost like a burn bone spur right
57:06Speaker 4If I if it was my kid, I would do that. Yeah. I would also probably inject my kid with the BPC, but I totally understand. Sitting by Johnny. But I totally understand. And maybe my kid
57:21Speaker 4yeah, dude, but like, I respect your opinion. You don't wanna I get it. Cool. Don't don't you don't don't do that then. Don't inject him. That's fine. But I would try the BPC.
57:36Speaker 4I had, I think, but I had, and you said, Hey, I think so, right? I went to doctors and they thought they diagnosed it. It was a long time ago, so now I'm kind of, I don't exactly remember if I had like a full diagnosis or if I just had patella tendon tendonitis,
57:49Speaker 4which is what jumpers need. And you see the guys in the NBA or in the NFL running around and they have like a little strap
58:09Speaker 4why here's the deal. Why people get jumpers knee and you see it a lot of basketball players because they're skinny and they don't lift weights. They don't have enough, a, quad strength. K?
58:19Speaker 4and, b, they don't have enough equal hamstring to quad strength. Right? When 1 of them just becomes, like, bicyclist.
58:26Speaker 4Right? There's no hamstring going on. You're just pushing quads, quads, quads. You get overdeveloped there and then we have imbalance and that causes problems. But so quads and hamstrings need to be developed equally,
58:40Speaker 4you don't want all the stress being on that tendon. That's not what you want contracting really fast and pushing the load up, right? You want that whole giant ass muscle
58:50Speaker 4to be the thing doing all of the load with the tendon helping connect that to the other part of the body that springs.
59:04Speaker 4quad up and just kind of hold, hold, hold for a long time. There's a lot of rehab that you can do, but the BPC is probably a good, probably helpful also. Yeah.
59:15Speaker 3it's not going to hurt. It's not going be obviously like the injection because it's more mainly for like gut inflammation and, but obviously it can trickle down to your legs for sure, but better
59:26Speaker 3Yeah, sure. Give it a try. Think we'll answer the rest of it, but I would feel comfortable with giving my sons, which I probably will
59:32Speaker 3when they're in high school and whatnot. Maybe there might as well be something a lot better by then. I don't know.
59:43Speaker 4would test, I would feel his So here's the crazy thing. Like I've always had, dude, I would go to the training room 2 hours early to practice. My knees, my patella tendons would just be like swollen.
59:59Speaker 4maybe it was just, yes, overuse, not enough strength because I didn't lift a whole bunch of weights when I was in high school. It was just pure like I just played sports.
1:00:09Speaker 4Did you not live in high school? You lived in high school? Did a little bit, but I was, but that was not Yeah. There was people that were more advanced lifting. Like I did start in my junior,
1:00:20Speaker 4in, yeah, I gained muscle pretty easily, but it wasn't my, there was people who started to try it a lot harder than me, but I was a lot better than them. As he eats his cookie. Yes.
1:00:40Speaker 3maybe I'll remember it again in a 2nd. That was good though. Great question. I mean, we're
1:00:46Speaker 4always going protect their kids. Is what I want to say. Because nowadays if I go play basketball and and I've noticed this maybe a couple years after I was done playing sports, like, could go run 2 2 hours of basketball and be hot, sweaty everywhere, and you put your hands over my knees where my 10 where my patella tendons are, and they're ice cold. Like no matter what. It's crazy. Right? Like, and so no wonder
1:01:07Speaker 4I would get tendonitis in there really bad, right? And no blood is getting, for some reason, no blood is getting to those tendons. So anytime you have a tendon and it's cold, then you use it repeatedly,
1:01:24Speaker 4wearing just a neoprene knee brace, not because I'm worried about the stability of my knee, but just frankly, just to keep that area warm
1:01:37Speaker 4out and actually better, a lot better performance because I could have gone, you know, a 100%. So
1:01:42Speaker 3think of that maybe. There you go. So the tip I got hindsight. 0 Good episode. Right under, right under an hour. We did good today. We did good today. So join the school. We'll let you know about the get together that we'll be doing. And other than that,
1:01:58Speaker 3do we have anybody on this week? No, we're going do the Pepatide of the Week on Friday.
1:02:08Speaker 3So somebody probably next week, don't know who are. We'll let you know. But other than that, you have a great time. We'll see you next time. Good night.