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0:53Speaker 2Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I am your host JD Denham across the way, mister William Teahaw.
1:18Speaker 2I like to look at it like this. He's earned it. He's earned a little bit of palm. That guy has like written a lot of books and led the way in testosterone replacement.
1:35Speaker 3I don't notice him as really pompous. Suppose dropping names, I guess is pompous, but I don't I agree. I mean, a 100% agree. Like dude's early. He has been around. He's been doing this this like he's been in this industry really like focusing on like men's health
2:07Speaker 3As far as I can tell, I don't know what his bank account looks like as far as success, but the fact that you've been continuing to do this and continue to be able to pay people
2:19Speaker 2you've done some things right. Yeah, that was good. I don't listen to every podcast by any means, but some I do because that 1 was, I listened to it yesterday when I lifted it. It was a good, great podcast, man. A lot of education in there and for those,
2:38Speaker 3They, that was a good pod podcast to kind of see what's coming down the pike. Hopefully it's illuminating. I know a lot of people who listen to this right are, are, you know, consumers of peptides and not necessarily in the business, but it's also, hopefully it was illuminating and helpful for those of you consumers
2:57Speaker 3you know, why there's such a big turnover maybe in the different websites, right? Why things are out of stock? Why don't they have payment processors?
3:14Speaker 3reinforce a lot of those things. Basically it's just really hard. Choppy waters, man. Choppy waters for anybody trying to be in the peptide business.
3:32Speaker 3to survive in this industry. And really the only thing they really, because it's not, I mean,
3:37Speaker 3because the peptides are just not dangerous. Sorry. They're just not dangerous, but they really want to, the government and everybody really wants to make it sound like they're dangerous because they know they really work, and so the only thing to do is scare people. But the only recourse they really have is financial institutions, right? Which is a big recourse. Which is a huge recourse, right? Like, that's a huge thing. And so you can't get a credit card process. You can't
4:00Speaker 3get credit card process or, Oh, you have a business Venmo that's meant for you to have a business that makes money. But
4:13Speaker 3Same thing with everything else. So yeah, it's tough. It's tough in that business, but people,
4:19Speaker 3yeah, that's why it's not things may look shady. They're really not. It's just forcing. And then, and really the bottom line is the banks'
4:27Speaker 3open excuse is saying that people who use peptides are shady people. Like that's why- They're the companies.
4:33Speaker 3They're saying new people. Are the people buying them are the shady people. That's why a high risk like payment processor, they have to be high risk. What they're talking about high risk is the customers using the payment processor. They're saying that you are shady because you are bad people and you will
4:56Speaker 3you know, exceptions to every rule. Are some, yeah, absolutely. There's some assholes out there who do charge to get their stuff and just do chargebacks because they're greedy.
5:09Speaker 3For the most part, hell no, I don't think that anything is at all about that. In fact, I think people are actually buying peptides are probably
5:35Speaker 2But today is everybody's favorite. And we want to talk real quick about school and that. That
5:53Speaker 2we were in top 13 right away out the gate, you know, it came out swinging and that grew really fast. Top
6:06Speaker 2Because so many people are active on it. So if you're active on it, keep doing that. You know, it's your community too. We are doing our best to give the best information
6:17Speaker 2that we have, and we don't ever pretend to have it all. We just do our best to give you the best. And that's 1 goal. The 2nd goal equally as important is just to connect like minded people that are
6:30Speaker 2something outside of Western medicine, seeking something, just chasing growth, seeking true health,
6:40Speaker 2all of it. And it's been a rad group of people lifting each other up. Gosh, I love that. I started deleting people off of my social media in 2026.
6:54Speaker 2Not going have any of that negative stuff. Like, it's been great. It's all clean now for the most part.
7:17Speaker 3bob and weave a bit. And so this, our school now is essentially dedicated like to peptide of week, This is peptide of the week and like peptide research.
8:21Speaker 3some damn good information out there for that everybody from All Walks Life can use different protocols, right, for all these questions that people ask, you know, we're trying to make, you know, protocols literally for everybody, for every situation that somebody encounters.
8:35Speaker 2And yeah, so more and more and more is being created and created just to give out to everybody. So for the lead, it'll be small price tag monthly, but I'm sure anybody that would understand the amount of work that goes in, which is a lot, it would be well worth it just because of the fact that I would imagine you would want to.
8:54Speaker 3And we weren't, dude, we were not here to like rob anybody and provide and charge money for not a good service. So our goal is to make the value proposition
9:04Speaker 3a way better value. In fact, it already is based on the discounts that you get from other stores that we give you for being an elite. Here
9:50Speaker 3Outside the box, man. Those people change the world. Hey, but that last menopause thing, you, we will be putting out some good information for, for the ladies and menopause because that's huge. We hear that constantly.
10:03Speaker 2we got new things coming. Yeah, we're going meet up. Let's talk a little bit about that. We're going do Militate meetup. I threw it out there to see if people, how people would bite. Will didn't think that they would, and they did.
10:17Speaker 2but it's always cool to hear that. There's a lot of people that would probably come at bricks and bread with us and we'd love to shake your hand and just meet you. You
10:26Speaker 2know, I it's cool. I was up in Vegas and I had a few people notice me up there and it's still a little bit weird,
10:32Speaker 2you know, Hey man, you know, I call you. And like, I love getting to meet people for, but just, you know, and like what led our paths together. And it's like, it's such a big world, but at the same time, it's small.
10:44Speaker 2I love that stuff. So we get to shake your hand, breaks of bread. We're gonna, we're gonna, we were just talking about this. We're going to have La Carneseria,
10:54Speaker 3Catery. So good stuff, my friends. We'll do this. All right. So here we go. Getting into question number 1. This is where we're starting. Hopefully we have the same question. Yes. Hello. I have a question for my wife from post pregnancy.
11:12Speaker 3since she will most likely need a C section. I was going to get her onto the Wolverine blend also to offset hair loss. I was planning on getting her on GHKCu.
11:24Speaker 3will these peptides be safe for the baby or even get into the baby's system? Also, is there any other peptides you guys would recommend for postpartum?
11:35Speaker 3Good 1. Good 1. All the The president hasn't popped up more. Yeah. It's tough. Like, I don't know. I can
11:53Speaker 3You know, it's like baby is born, like, literally in the womb, right? You're made of the mother's blood and everything in her. Yet if she has these some, like, terrible, like, I don't know if she has HIV, like the baby's not gonna have HIV. Like it's crazy. Like how does that work? How does the baby not have that? Yeah. Right?
12:36Speaker 3breastfeeding is the challenge. That's the scare that's actually the scarier part because
12:46Speaker 3things in your body and then it's coming out in the breast milk. Generally, like the breastfeeding stage is like- Huge. Huge. Is the stage where you've- Developing of the brain. You don't want anything else in your body that isn't natural. So to be honest,
12:58Speaker 3as far as all of these 3 seem very like, I mean, this is looks as safe as you can get. I just don't feel safe saying
13:06Speaker 2during the breastfeeding stage to take any of this Yeah. I was going to wonder how you're going to answer that.
13:21Speaker 2I mean, I would lean a little bit towards the, probably the Wolverine. I just believe it's so, so, so like fine in regards to just, I don't think there's any worry or concern.
13:36Speaker 2tiptoeing even saying that. Obviously, Will and I almost always are going to air on the side of caution. You're for the healing of the wound for the C section. I think you could run it for a short time.
13:49Speaker 2I wouldn't run anything else, you know, zinc, vitamin C, those things will help with wounds and stuff as well. Why mess with it? Why even mess with it? You know, there's a lot of what ifs, but
14:00Speaker 2if there's any 1 that could be negative, it's too many. So just probably on the side of no. And the GHK-3Cu,
14:07Speaker 3right? This is copper peptide. Like copper is a metal not saying you're injecting like metal into your body, but still
14:14Speaker 3that's the stuff that like, hey, you can have, you know, you can do too much GHK-two and it can harm you. Like,
14:19Speaker 3I would say no on that 1 for sure because it could get into the breast milk. And, you know, she'll be
14:25Speaker 3women have C sections all the time. She'll heal. Post that, post breastfeeding, right? Absolutely
14:31Speaker 3use serum. There is a lot of cool stuff and especially like the GHK- SNAP-eight serum put on topically.
14:51Speaker 3and then leave some stretch marks. Yeah. 1 of the easier ways to tell somebody's age is neck and chest. Right? Yeah, we're smoker.
15:08Speaker 3if you have less oxygen and less good blood flow coming to the to the skin, that's why smokers have wrinkles because their skin is dying at a faster rate than
15:17Speaker 2regular people. Yeah. They're not getting all the nutrients that they should be getting. Thing is smoking is kind of not that many people smoke anymore. Think I was walking the other day, like, is somebody smoking? Like, haven't heard smoke that smell in a long time. Every
15:31Speaker 213 years, I think. No, no, no, 10, something like that. I think 5 years I gave up smoking, but,
15:37Speaker 2I have sobriety, but man, every once in while I get a smell of a cigarette and I'll just figure it for a quick 2nd.
15:43Speaker 20, I had that old smell, but it's crazy. You remember like, oh gosh, you feel dirty smoking. Yeah. Like at the end of the day, I was like, you
15:51Speaker 3freak when you go to the elevator. It's nuts to think, like, I think I was like, right when I was in college, you could still smoke in bars. Right?
15:59Speaker 3Imagine today, like, you're in a bar in a crowded ass bar, right, where you're squeezing through people and people got cigarettes in their hands. You know? You used to get ashed on. You get, you know, holes burnt in your clothes, and it's just disgusting in there. Like, we can't even really imagine that nowadays, but that used to be just commonplace
16:23Speaker 2take a drag, get a cigarette. 0 0 man. Yeah. When I, when I had flown up for, I used to fly for a job and do sales stuff and flew all over and, and dude, Missouri still smoked
16:48Speaker 2guy who found peptide 5 months ago and they have changed my life. All right. Body comp and health. I found you guys about a month ago and have listened to all shows. My question is related to supporting
17:05Speaker 2Early fifties, great shape. Retta 3 times, it says a month, but I'm assuming that 3 times a week, five'six, 120 pounds, very healthy. And I'm about to begin TRT.
18:01Speaker 3That was quite a bit. That's quite a bit. And I think that, so 1st of all, what the hell is chalation therapy? So what it is, is somebody who has too much heavy metals of whatever kind, that are poisoning their blood.
18:15Speaker 3is like, they just run a big magnet through your bloodstream, right? Like that magnet that we would that
18:21Speaker 3stirs things, right? Put that in, and it just grabs onto all the the metals in your blood and pulls them all out. Okay? And they use that as like, this is supposed to be a,
18:42Speaker 3brain fog, right? The cognition issues. So the doctors have said, Hey, you need to have this therapy done. You need all your heavy metals pulled out. So are all these heavy metals that should not be in there. The problem is that it is, it can be very rough on a person's body. Like they, like he said, because it's pulling all the good nutrients and minerals out of your body. Okay. That are we need to have some level of
19:14Speaker 3is it's gonna pull everything out and we need to, you need to kind of replenish all of that stuff.
19:19Speaker 3I'm sure the doctor has told you some other vitamins to take, right, to replenish what they're pulling out.
19:25Speaker 3But I think that attacking some of the symptoms to get your body health, I think glutathione is the number 1 thing that you should that you really, really, really should be doing.
19:43Speaker 3when you're after you've pulled all that stuff out, your body's going to be kind of beat down. Think that indirectly the Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin is a good idea just to help some, with some, some growth recovery. Dihexa is a really good idea.
20:01Speaker 3You might just learn that she just likes that a lot. I do. I like it a lot and I take it consistently
20:08Speaker 3can't like the BPC oral blend is good for every single person in the world. Like your, everybody needs their gut health to be, to be better. And
20:20Speaker 3Honestly, not really. That's kind of a lot. It's a lot, but it's not too much. And none of these are being are redundant. Kinda look at
20:27Speaker 3you you are you're losing a kind of a broad spectrum of of things during this therapy. And so it's kind of nice to enhance your body in a broad spectrum on the way after.
20:38Speaker 3So that's what I got. The controversy on the Shalacin stuff is there's a lot of, like, health clinics that are just saying, hey, do
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21:17Speaker 3oh, you don't have any heavy metal poisoning. You don't have extra high levels, you know, you're fine, but metals are bad,
21:36Speaker 2have done it. I don't know if that would fix your bride's problem, but it might be worth it to do 1st before
21:44Speaker 2you do this. I don't know the comparison in regards to prices and all that stuff. Would imagine your insurance covers this. Ipu probably not, but I've done it. And you basically,
21:53Speaker 2it's like an oil change, a blood change. They take out blood from you and then they put it through the system and it cleans out heavy metals and toxins
22:09Speaker 2And you're supposed to do it 3 times. I only did it once, I won't actually do it again.
22:17Speaker 2And they are, it's big in Dubai and in places like that, but they definitely are doing it here. Lee,
22:23Speaker 2Nurse Lee from here that we had on the podcast does that, that's where it did it. So it might want to check that out. In regards to
22:36Speaker 2I don't know. My opinions on that has changed in recently. I used to take a lot and I can tell that I think I do want to, I tone it down and how do you know it's doing what? Right? So
22:57Speaker 2old school. I think you should add in some fasting for your bride. Now women and men are different in regards to what
23:10Speaker 2know, God knows what He's doing and He can heal the body. Our body heal does heal itself. Fasting is truly, truly, truly amazing. My belief is if you get cancer, you should do a 25 day fast. It thrives on glucose. You suffocate the hell out of that glucose and there's been huge, huge,
23:27Speaker 2huge amount of people that have even beat cancer from just fasting because your body will
23:39Speaker 2So autophagy is when dead cells die off, fall off and brand new ones take their place. So think about an extended fast on how that would be. So I would definitely recommend it and try it,
23:51Speaker 2because it's, there's a reason it's been around forever. Hey, Hey, if you got cancer, what do you got to lose? You 25 days of being really hungry. That's what I said. Shit.
23:59Speaker 2I mean, what's 25 days out of your whole life? Like walk into like a time bomb and like inject yourself with poison.
24:05Speaker 2Again, I'm not judging, but I walked my sponsor through it. I'd never seen it. It's brutal. That stuff is brutal, dude.
24:13Speaker 2Fasting for 25 days or injecting yourself with a time bomb that you hope you don't die. Yeah, shit. That's brutal.
24:20Speaker 2So hope that helps. I think if you do some of that stuff, it'll, it'll work for her. Good luck on that. Keep us posted. Yep. Yep. I am all right. I recently got my blood results back. My cholesterol,
24:33Speaker 3were out of range on the high side and out of range. My diet is tuned in low carb, high fat, 1 g protein per pound of body weight. Are there any peptides that you know of that would help, that would address this? If
24:46Speaker 3if not, do you know any other way I can address this without putting my money towards big pharma?
24:51Speaker 3Know, I don't know of any other way. Oh, wait. I live 4 times a week minimum with 30 minute cardio, 30 minutes cardio. I understand you guys aren't doctors, but honestly, I trust you more than more than a ton of them. Anything that helps boys.
25:09Speaker 3this isn't like a perfect cure, but like Retta, Retta is going to be to lower your cholesterol
25:15Speaker 3semi indirectly, but that's what I would try 1st. I would do a low dose. Like I wouldn't go crazy. Think that for this purpose- Does he say his body weight?
25:27Speaker 3he's up on his exercise. More cardio. So Retta, I'd low dose it, right? I'd start with like 0.5 mg 3 times a week and do that consistently for like 2 months and then go get those go get yourself tested again to see what happens. Also, I know you say, do you cardio, but cardio is a huge thing that will help this. So do more, try,
25:53Speaker 3that I'm sure you've looked up some other, but, but those types of things. Good fiber. That means like lots of vegetables,
26:13Speaker 2So that's what I got. Yeah. My opinion's going to be a little different. 1st, I would start off with what's high and subjective. And if you're going to ask my opinion, I think that's a bunch of bullshit. You know, I've studied cholesterol just because of the carnivore diet and ketogenic type diets. I don't believe I don't trust doctors in any form about saying high cholesterol. We saw a run around like 3 50, give or take cholesterol and everybody was thriving and doing well. And now all of sudden at 200, they try to give you a statin drug and do
26:44Speaker 2sir. Whatever you do, do not go on a statin drug run from any doctor that wants to prescribe it.
26:57Speaker 2Cancer is in low cholesterol. There's just so many problems, low cholesterol. It's so subjective on what the numbers
27:04Speaker 2mean. But if you're like at 200 and your and your doctor's telling you it, you're too high cholesterol,
27:12Speaker 2started changing in the late seventies when they started to get people off fat because the sugar companies want to sell more sugar. So they took fat out of the food
27:21Speaker 2and they had to replace it with something because there was no taste because fats the taste and they replaced it with sugar. And then came seed oils and everybody got fat. So when you eat fat, you don't get fat. That is amazing for you.
27:36Speaker 2Breast milk is full of fat and cholesterol. And there's a reason because it develops brain, baby's brains and whatnot.
27:43Speaker 2So that's my take on that. I'll stop there, but I am not in agreement with him. Yeah, he's right though. Like what is high? I would look at your numbers. Doctors
27:53Speaker 2some doctors are just not They try to put my dad on his stat and then I'm like, dude, not even tell me that he was always considering it. I'm like, do you not know who your son is? I'm the king of fat dad.
28:04Speaker 2But that's, I would, I would say that he got it right. Tesa Retta, I would say would be my 1st. 0 yeah, Tesamorelin. Right. Those 2 would be great.
28:21Speaker 2You know, we're so programmed and I know this is a peptide podcast, but we're so programmed to take something. So are we, we're used to it. What can I take to feel better?
28:30Speaker 2And I think if we slap, slow down and get to the basics of life, again, I believe God knows what he's doing and our bodies know how to heal themselves if we properly feed it and give it the proper nutrition.
28:47Speaker 2but again, we're programmed to take something. So if you're going to take some Loretta, Tesa, a couple of other ones that will be helpful, I think for your gut, there's going to be KPV, Wolverine,
28:58Speaker 2all those will be pretty well for you. But I'd say fasting, man, and I would do, please not don't take a statin.
29:19Speaker 2Not drastically. I mean, I don't think anybody truly knows the answer to this. If they tell you,
29:24Speaker 2then that's in my opinion, don't listen to that person because if anybody tells you they know, they probably don't know. It's kind of a guesstimation,
29:47Speaker 2I mean, here's the thing. Don't mix your peptides if you're not going take them. Do not mix peptides, do a shot and then leave it for 3 months and go, Oh shoot, I still have some MOTS-1C. Like you're not doing it right. You just paid money for that.
30:00Speaker 2will be done in a few weeks, so you should be good. If you leave it, would still work? Sure. Will it be the full potency? No. No. So
30:10Speaker 3you got some time. Keep in the fridge. It will probably it'll retain. I mean, like I would say that
30:31Speaker 3Light fluctuations is bad for it. But yeah, I think you're right. I think on the super conservative end on maybe the ones that go that degrade rapidly, like 2 to 4 weeks,
30:45Speaker 3and she was up to us. She literally had a bottle of, I think Semaglutide in my fridge for a year,
30:52Speaker 3came back and did it again. It worked just fine. Fully, fully worked great. Yeah. My bill people also who've, who've literally done kind of the same thing and then was like, oh, 4 months later, oh shit, I didn't know I need to refrigerate it and it still works great.
31:06Speaker 3And if anybody's right. If anybody gives you a diff like there is no way, sorry folks, we do not know that, hey, like MOTS-3D degrades at a 2 percent rate. Yeah.
31:24Speaker 279 degrees, right? This is all right. Nobody's saying, nobody knows. Maybe 1 day. Not there yet. Maybe not. Yeah. Just do your peptides. Just do the peptides. Easy enough.
31:36Speaker 3I'm loving Retta, and I tell everyone I know about it. My daughter-in-law is intrigued and very worried about gaining weight once she stops.
31:43Speaker 3I don't see a lot of information about women who go off Retta, probably because why would you?
31:51Speaker 3if your hormones are optimized, diet is dialed in, exercise is happening, and you're sleeping, you should be able to maintain weight.
32:08Speaker 3yeah, you can lose, you could probably gain some weight back, right? Because it does have some effect on your appetite.
32:18Speaker 3or I mean, our metabolism is tied to how much food we actually put in our, how many calories our body is used to think of it that way. So
32:29Speaker 3maximum, like lowering your calories, let's say the 500 calories a day, which I, which I don't think, hopefully nobody is doing. But if you do that lower to 500 calories a day, do that for a month. And then, and you're able to maintain it because you're on Reta. And then all of a sudden take the Reta out and now your hunger goes up and you start eating 3,000 calories a day.
33:12Speaker 3add muscle while you're on it, right? So you add the more muscle we have, the faster our metabolism
33:18Speaker 3and the less likely that you're going to gain any weight back because your muscle just burns that fat off.
33:24Speaker 3while you're on it, keep eating, right? Don't just stop eating. Retta, the benefit to Retta is that you don't, it's not like you just go, I want to eat any food at all. It just kind of forces small portion of small frequent meals on you, but that's good. Make sure you're eating enough protein. So you keep in fact, maybe hopefully even gain a little bit of muscle
33:46Speaker 3you have to actually at low doses, like it has been shown like this is good for you. So, but if you want to come off, just ever so slightly wean down
33:56Speaker 3and stop. If you're going, oh, wow, I have like a big urge, then chill. There's nothing that says you can't wean down and then stay for a couple of weeks until your body gets, you know, balanced out and then keep weaning down. Okay. Give yourself time,
34:13Speaker 2Eat protein. Keep muscle on. Well, that's what keeps metabolism fast and that's what keeps fat from coming back. Yeah, my daughter-in-law was intrigued, but very worried about gaining weight once she stops. I'm assuming she wants to take it to stop to lose weight. So she, I'm assuming she needs to lose weight or wants to lose weight.
34:30Speaker 2So like getting caught up in what ifs is silly. Like there's, you know what I mean? I hate the what if game? Like what if this, what if that? Would be some analytical friends and like, I'm like, dude, bro, like, you're what if ing me? What if nothing happens?
34:44Speaker 2You are going to lose weight. That's what you're going to do. Be positive, think positive, talk positive. And that's really like how life works. Like start talking,
34:52Speaker 2you know, good things into your life. You're going to lose weight. You're going to eat better. You're to change your life. Start talking to yourself about that. So stop talking about the what ifs.
35:01Speaker 2And we already handled in regards to titrate down. You can always go back on. People do it all the time.
35:07Speaker 2So if you need to lose weight, this is going to help you get there. Don't worry about you gaining the weight back. It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Right? Same thing. It's like, it's better to have lost a bunch of weight and then gain some back than to never have lost any weight. This guy nailed it. The hormones optimization diet is dialed exercise happening. You got it. So if you do that, you're good. Good to go. All right. All
35:37Speaker 2and Tessa Ipamorelin if they both just stimulate the pituitary to release growth hormone?
35:48Speaker 3visceral fat. Wouldn't that do the same thing? That's a very good question. Actually, I really
36:09Speaker 3doesn't my pituitary do the same thing if it's stimulated by this thing or that thing? Right?
36:15Speaker 3Well, I don't really have a super great answer for you. I think it does. But it does it does. So 1st of all,
36:36Speaker 3trying to produce growth. Okay? That will produce a way bigger effect, well, way more growth hormone. Okay?
36:47Speaker 3So that's a huge difference that in Tesamorelin because Tesamorelin, the whole point is it stimulates pituitary and pulses, right, just like our body does. So quick quick hits.
36:58Speaker 3But then if we go CJC with no DAC, okay, the whole point of that is to make it natural,
37:08Speaker 3So now we got 2 things that are just the most common. Pretty much the damn same. Like, you're right, dude. They're very close. The thing is though, the Tesamorelin,
37:34Speaker 3It will actually kind of stimulate and activate a bit more fat burning on your liver as opposed CJC is more of a broad signaling.
37:55Speaker 3is really with, say, like a broad signaling 1. So it is gonna help a little bit more recovery because it's focusing more on everything on that area, whereas Tesamorelin is focusing its efforts
38:05Speaker 3on your abdominal and your liver. So that's the best answer I possibly can give. Buzz spot on. It's
38:11Speaker 2a tough question. It's a really good question too. I think you just broke it down perfectly. CJC is going to focus on sleep recovery and Tesamorelin is going to focus on that belly fat. Are they very similar? Yes. A lot of people have reactions to CJC.
38:23Speaker 2More and more and more and more, the longer we do this, do we run into people that have histamine responses to CJC in particular? So if I had to choose, it's always going be Tesamorelin.
38:35Speaker 3would agree. All right. Who's up? I think I Right. Right. 56 year old male, 5 11, 200 pounds, 10% body fat, and pretty jacked now thanks to you 2 guys. Hey. Hey. Hey. Since listening to your podcast, I dropped 40 plus pounds. It's 13% body fat. Damn.
39:05Speaker 32 mgs times 3 days a week, MOTS-three, SS-thirty 1, 5 amino s 5 amino 1 in q. High dose of SLU-three 32.
39:16Speaker 3I also take glutathione, HCG, 2 times a week. I'm coming to end about 16 weeks and wanted your opinion on what to do next. I'm an elite masters athlete, CrossFit,
39:25Speaker 3HYROX, DECA, and looking to continue to improve my endurance engine and strength. I train 15 to 20 hours a week and looking to just keep getting stronger and better as an athlete. I've been,
39:37Speaker 3I have been such an inspiration to my school. I'm a teacher, community, and family by trying to get help everyone I touch be healthier version of themselves. Thanks again. Can't wait to hear your opinion. Boom. Yeah. Sounds like you've kicked some ass seriously.
40:11Speaker 2some of the things I think after a while, MOTS-8 necessarily want to go give it a break. I'm just speaking of with experience.
40:30Speaker 2HGH is like right next to them. They're like best friends. TRT and HGH to me are like best friends. So I would say add an HGH,
40:38Speaker 2no more than 2 IUs, Will might say maybe 3, depends on how big he is. Five'eleven, I'd say 2 IUs.
40:55Speaker 2I have not noticed a big difference in strength or body composition is going be IGF-1LR-three.
41:04Speaker 2people say it's the closest thing to gear on a peptide scale. Actually, Jay Campbell would disagree and we're learning that too. But IGF-one is great. I would take it after you lift.
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42:00Speaker 2If you can contain that in your discipline, which I'm assuming you are because you sound like you're an avid lifter and whatnot,
42:10Speaker 2just the closest damn thing that you're going to get to gear. I've compared it. I personally have taken both, so I compare it to Anabar. Now there's people that are going to disagree with that. I'm just telling you my experience of taking a bull. I felt the same. I felt like I looked the same. The only difference is the food thing, which I'm pretty damn disciplined. So that for me was fine, but you will get size. So if you want that, and
42:45Speaker 2You can replace the Cardene with SLU- I think you can stay on the SLU-3.5 Those are going to both give you stamina.
42:51Speaker 2Card ring is great. I remember years and years ago, Will had brought it up to me and so I obviously started reading about it and I remember I took it. I loved it. I thought it was great. I definitely felt like I had more stamina in the gym. So carding is great. I think you should maybe replace that with SLU-4A bit,
43:06Speaker 2give it a break and then go back on in 16 weeks or whatever. And the last 1, I'll just say just for your immunity, you're getting old and we all, I love this 1. It's TA-one Thymosin Alpha-one.
43:22Speaker 2your stack with another stack that would I believe equally as well. Add the HGH still no matter what, my opinion. Yeah.
43:45Speaker 3if to add some muscle, it's just gonna make your body just add lean muscle. So there's that. I swear by it. Some fat burners to replace the, you know, 5 m 1 MQ,
43:56Speaker 3and this loop is kind of so we're thinking, yes, Carderine replaced this loop. Try the try HGH frag 1 76, 1 91, which is basically AOD just a little bit more effective. It's got 1 more amino acid. So either AOD or HGH frag for, to replace as a fat burner to keep you lean.
44:23Speaker 3It's time, it will work, it'll work better and you got it. Yeah. It'll work really well on you.
44:32Speaker 3stay on it. I wouldn't do anything to your test. Your test just seems to be working great. Don't go any higher than that. You
44:41Speaker 3shit, man. Everything else you said is great. I agree with it. Make a few little changes and have fun. Keep us posted, man. See how you do. Yeah.
45:04Speaker 2read that needs to have carbs. I don't take any take with any carbs or take any carbs. Sorry. I figured my fellow carnivore J might,
45:15Speaker 2not many of us carnivores in the world, but does seem to be catching on more and more. Keep up the great work. Just discovered your podcast and have really been enjoying it.
45:37Speaker 2Physical therapy is going well. My doctor gave me the Wolverine stack perfect to help with recovery,
45:56Speaker 2or will it still have some benefit or do I need to try to figure out a way to get it in that spot on my back no matter what? That's a great question. I think it's great. Yeah. Bad question. Yes. Very good question. Go ahead. You can answer them on
46:13Speaker 2is going to definitely work better with carbs, especially after you lift, you want have some carbs. This is a nutrient partition is going to push those suckers right into the muscle. You've heard Will say, this is 1 of the things that got me super intrigued
46:25Speaker 2by when we 1st kind of started reading about it, he's like, you can have a big carb day and it's just gonna like push those carbs into the muscle and you'll wake up super lean. So So I put it to the test. I went and ate a bunch of sushi when I was on carnivore and I woke up lean as hell. So it worked.
46:47Speaker 2what's your objective? There might be some other things that might be better again. MK-six 77 might be better for you.
47:05Speaker 2obviously the, my back, I did not inject it into my back. I injected it sub Q in my stomach. And that was
47:21Speaker 2TB is going to obviously travel better. I think with them both, they just really work well with each other. I mean, sure, it could work a little bit better than BPC if you get to your back.
47:31Speaker 2I think it's going to work great. I think it's gonna work great. Just sub Q sometimes for me, just, you know, sometimes for me now, because I can move and, you know, and I'll turn around and just pinch some fat in the back and try to get it as close as I can. That's just me not trying to have another surgery. I'm not hurting back there, but I don't want her back there ever again. So
47:50Speaker 3I'll kind of twist around. I don't think it's that necessary though, dude. So that's my take. Yeah. I don't think, I think that just putting, putting in your stomach will systemically work. Like, it'll get there. Works for me to better to be right into your back, but dude, when the if you just can't, you can't.
48:09Speaker 3yeah, getting it as close as you can, hell, you might even wanna just go intramuscular on top of your butt cheek. Good. That's doable. Yeah. Sure. Every once in a while, you know A lot of people do. Just kind of rotate it from, you know, stomach to there.
48:20Speaker 3It'll get the closer it is, yeah, the better. Yeah. Work a little bit better close, but
48:25Speaker 3it's still totally worth doing it. A lot of it if you can afford it. Yeah. A lot of it. And then, yeah, he's right on the, I mean, the IGF-one.
48:32Speaker 3Yeah. So somebody who's on just no carbs whatsoever in doing IGF-one, I guess the worry is
48:40Speaker 3well, sugars out of your body and then going into this like, you know, hypoglycemia shock. Right? I don't think that risk is that much, but there is that potential risk. Even if you're on cardio, if you're on carnivore, right, and you are in keto and you're worried about getting thrown out of keto because you have to eat carbs,
49:04Speaker 3carbs are not even gonna throw you out of keto. Okay? Because your body's just gonna suck them up and get rid of them. Like rice cake, something like that even like something that's like those
49:14Speaker 2carbs that push it right into your- just a little bit of sweet potatoes, a little bit of rice. Yeah. Right after you lift, it might be a little bit better talking to carnivore. So it really will, it will work better or just do MK-six, 7, 7.
49:28Speaker 3Alright. Next 1. Hi guys, as ever, thank you for everything you do. You're building a really helpful community. I've heard you mention a couple of times on the pod recently that particularly
49:53Speaker 3we're doing both things. I'm 56 year old female and I've written in before. This week I started my 1st course of Ipah in the morning and my 3rd course of Tesa in the evening. So I'm thinking about what to do. I've been taking 500 mg of micrograms of Tessa
50:11Speaker 3but I might scale that back down to 200 and go a little heavier on the Tessa. Also taking
50:23Speaker 3Goal continues to be losing those last few percentages of body fat after a major recomposition and weight loss journey.
50:30Speaker 3Just curious to know the reasoning of your shift because all the information is useful. Thank you so much for your insight and feedback.
50:54Speaker 3is the right thing to do. Okay? They work in conjunction with each other. I have never strayed from that, but what I did stray from is Dosage. Saying is dosages and going, I think that women especially.
51:11Speaker 3the gross portion as much. Some do, some really want that muscle gain, but they want the fat burning while keeping lean muscle. Okay? Right. Tesamorelin
51:35Speaker 3Ipamorelin is really the stronger of the growth hormone of the actual growth hormone properties.
51:44Speaker 3when women have a little too much of that growth hormone, they start to retain a little bit of water. And then that makes them unhappy.
52:06Speaker 3ratio with the Ipamorelin. I still want to enhance those pulses a bit more, but not at the same rate as the Tesamorelin
52:13Speaker 3because we worry about the water retention potentially for you and we would like, and I bet you want extra extra belly fat burning and
52:29Speaker 3Hopefully that made sense. There was my thinking. They're like, yo, I really appreciate the question. That's very good. You're right. Knowledge is just more knowledge is useful. So
52:38Speaker 3that's the thought and do with that as you will. The name of the game though, is about you experimenting
52:47Speaker 3I don't know if you're going to notice any of the difference between 2 50 micrograms and 200.
52:53Speaker 3Maybe I'm just talking for me because I'm 2 50 pounds and like that, like that little bit of an adjustment, I guarantee you, I won't feel for a woman and
53:09Speaker 2going to be in a different opinion because I just think women do fine with just the Tesla. I just don't really ever recommend the Tesla Impa, but Will has always backed
53:16Speaker 2out. He's talked about it forever. Now, will say your age, I think that what would be rad if you did 1 IU of HGH,
53:24Speaker 2I think that would do wonders alone for you. We're obviously advocates of human growth hormone because it's freaking amazing.
53:42Speaker 2just the test at night. Now, can you up your dose of AOD? Of course you can. It doesn't raise your IGF-one.
53:49Speaker 2There's a fine line of when is it just not when you're just taking more where it's not really doing much.
54:05Speaker 2Will, bit don't notice anything, but for women, a little tiny bit, I added her, Tesa, just a tiny bit. And like she, he just said, she started retaining water like crazy. She did a little bit. And so I would say, try that, try the Tessa at night, HGH in the morning, and then the obvious, if you're trying to get to your goal, you want to expedite it, throw in a little bit of Retta.
54:31Speaker 2There's a reason we talk about it on every podcast like a 100 times because it freaking works. So 0.5,
54:37Speaker 23 times a week would do you wonders. You'll burn that fat right off you girl. Hope that helps. Who's
54:46Speaker 3Question 10. I have an oral BPC question. I've heard J. D. Say several times, BPC is the only peptide he would consider giving to his son for an injury.
54:59Speaker 3He has active he is active, but nothing crazy. He just plays football and baseball. We have him stretching and we deloaded
55:08Speaker 3He's doing better. Still though, as a dad, I can't help but wanna do everything in my power to help. Right? Do you think oral BPC could help with some of his inflammation
55:21Speaker 3Injection isn't an option. I don't mind poking myself, but I'm not doing that with my teenager. Thanks to you 2 are awesome. Awesome. I hope the show keeps growing. So Oskins
55:36Speaker 3it is, it feels like jumper's knee, which is patellar tendonitis. So it's like right on your tibia
55:51Speaker 3people who have jumpers knee get that thing gets swollen and inflamed. I've always had it in both of my knees, which is crazy. But Ostenslauter is a little bit of like a it's almost like a bone spur right
56:21Speaker 3Villain my kid, I would do that. Yeah. I would also probably inject my kid with the BPC, but I totally understand. Sitting there, Johnny. But I totally understand and maybe my kid
56:36Speaker 3yeah, dude, but like I respect your opinion. You don't wanna I get it. Cool. Don't don't you don't don't do that then. Don't inject him. That's fine. But I would try the BPC.
56:51Speaker 3I had, I think, but I had, and you said, Hey, I think so, right? I went to doctors and they thought they diagnosed it. It was a long time ago, so now I'm kind of, I don't exactly remember if I had like a full diagnosis or if I just had patella tendon tendonitis,
57:04Speaker 3which is what jumpers need. And you see the guys in the NBA or in the NFL running around and they have like a little strap
57:24Speaker 3why here's the deal. Why people get jumpers knee and you see it a lot of basketball players because they're skinny and they don't lift weights? They don't have enough, a, quad strength.
57:34Speaker 3and, b, they don't have enough equal hamstring to quad strength. Right? When 1 of them just becomes, like, bicyclists.
57:45Speaker 3You get overdeveloped there and then we have imbalance and that causes problems. So quads and hamstrings need to be developed equally,
57:55Speaker 3you don't want all the stress being on that tendon. That's not what you want contracting really fast and
58:19Speaker 3quad up and just kind of hold, hold, hold for a long time. There's a lot of rehab that you can do, but the BPC is probably a good, probably helpful also. Yeah.
58:30Speaker 2it's not going to hurt. It's not going be obviously like the injection because it's more mainly for like gut inflammation and, but obviously it could trickle down to your legs for sure, but better than nothing.
58:41Speaker 2But yeah, sure, give it a try. Think we'll answer the rest of it, but I would feel comfortable with giving my sons, which I probably will
58:47Speaker 2when they're in high school and whatnot. Maybe there might as well be something a lot better by then. I don't know. But if they were in high school now, would absolutely
58:58Speaker 3would test, I would feel his So here's the crazy thing. Like I've always had, dude, I would go to the training room 2 hours early to practice. My knees, my patella tendons would just be like swollen.
59:10Speaker 3whatever I used to, I would jump a lot and I could jump pretty high and maybe it was just, yes, overuse, not enough strength because I didn't lift a whole bunch of weights when I was in high school. It was just pure, like I just played sports.
59:24Speaker 2Did you not live in high school? You lived in high school? Did a little bit, but I was, but that was not,
59:30Speaker 3there was people that were more advanced lifting. Like I did start in my junior, senior year
59:35Speaker 3in, yeah, I gained muscle pretty easily, but it wasn't my, there's people who started to try it a lot harder than me, but I was a lot better than them. As he eats his cookie. Yes.
59:55Speaker 2maybe I'll remember it again in a 2nd. That was good though. Great question. I mean, we're
1:00:01Speaker 3always going protect their Oh, here's what I want to say. Cause nowadays if I go play basketball and I've noticed this maybe a couple of years after I was done playing sports, like I could go run 2 2 hours of basketball and be hot, sweaty everywhere and you put your hands over my knees where my 10 where my patellar tendons are and they're ice cold.
1:00:22Speaker 3I would get tendonitis in there really bad. Right? And no blood is getting for some reason, no blood is getting to those tendons. And so anytime you have a tendon and it's cold, then you use it repeatedly,
1:00:41Speaker 3not because I'm worried about the stability of my knee, but just frank, just to keep that area warm probably would have saved me a whole ton of
1:00:50Speaker 3pain and and sitting sitting out out and and actually better, a lot better performance because I could have gone, you know, a 100%. So think of that maybe. So
1:01:01Speaker 20 Good episode. Oh, right under, right under an hour. Did good today. We did good today. So join the school. We'll let you know about the get together that we'll be doing.
1:01:13Speaker 2do we have anybody on this week? No, we're gonna do the Pepatide of the Week on Friday.
1:01:23Speaker 2So somebody probably next week. I don't know who you are. We'll let you know. But other than that, you have a great time. We'll see you next time. Good night.