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Happy Tuesday. Yeah, 1:50 Speaker 3: we just had Jake Hamilton. That was very interesting. I know people 1:55 Speaker 3: read comments and a lot of people, 1:57 Speaker 3: know, Jake comes off as Jay and some people that is off putting, but I 2:03 Speaker 3: like to look at it like this. He's earned it. He's earned a little bit of palm. That guy has like written a lot of books and led the way in testosterone replacement. 2:10 Speaker 3: And so 2:12 Speaker 3: you take people with a grain of salt, like all the guy knows a lot. He knows a shit ton. I don't really, I mean, really, I guess I don't, 2:20 Speaker 4: I don't notice him as really pompous. Suppose dropping names, I guess is pompous, but I don't I agree. I mean, a 100% agree. It's like, dude, 2:28 Speaker 4: he has been around. He's been doing this this like, he's been in this industry really, like, focusing on, like, men's health 2:35 Speaker 4: for 25 2:36 Speaker 4: years and been 2:38 Speaker 4: very vocal and 2:41 Speaker 4: probably, 2:41 Speaker 4: like, helped hundreds of thousands of people. Right? 2:46 Speaker 4: So good for good for him and been 2:49 Speaker 4: very successful at everything he's done. Yeah. 2:52 Speaker 4: As far as I can tell, I don't know what his bank account looks like as far as success, but the fact that you've been continuing to do this and continue to be able to pay people 2:59 Speaker 4: to do work and, 3:01 Speaker 4: and you're still are doing that 20 years later means you've 3:05 Speaker 3: done some things right. Yeah, it was good. I don't listen to every podcast by any means, but some I do because that 1 was, listened to it yesterday when I lifted it. It was a good, great podcast, 3:14 Speaker 3: A lot of education in there. And for those, 3:17 Speaker 3: which most are trying to figure out 3:21 Speaker 3: waters of peptides. 3:23 Speaker 4: They, that was a good pod podcast to kind of see what's coming down the pike. Hopefully it's illuminating. I know a lot of people who listen to this right are, are, you know, consumers of peptides and not necessarily in the business, but it's also, hopefully it was illuminating and helpful for those of you consumers 3:39 Speaker 4: to know like why, 3:42 Speaker 4: you know, why there's such a big turnover maybe in the different websites, right? Why things are out of stock? Why don't they have payment processors? Right? Why don't they, why isn't this like a normal business? 3:53 Speaker 4: You know? Why isn't as easy? 3:56 Speaker 4: Well, that 3:57 Speaker 4: interview helped 3:59 Speaker 4: reinforce a lot of those things. 4:01 Speaker 4: It's just really hard. Choppy waters, man. 1 Choppy 4:05 Speaker 4: anybody trying to be in the peptide business. 4:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, because banks don't like it. Many have tried, many have Many have 4:13 Speaker 4: It's the game. That's why. Because they make it very difficult 4:17 Speaker 4: to survive in this industry. And really the only thing they really, because it's not, I mean, 4:22 Speaker 4: because the peptides are just not dangerous, sorry. They're just not dangerous, but they really wanna 4:28 Speaker 4: the government and everybody really wants to make it sound like they're dangerous because they know they really work, and so the only thing to do is scare people. But the only recourse they really have is financial institutions, right? Which is a big recourse. Which is a huge recourse, right? That's a huge thing. So you can't get a credit card process. You can't 4:45 Speaker 4: get credit card process or, you have a business Venmo that's meant for you to have a business that makes money. 4:52 Speaker 4: If you make 4:53 Speaker 4: money 4:54 Speaker 4: on it or show any growth, we'll freeze it and shut it down. 4:58 Speaker 4: Same thing with everything else. So yeah, it's tough. It's tough in that business, but people, 5:04 Speaker 4: yeah, that's why it's not things may look shady. They're really not. It's just like forcing. And then, and really the bottom line is the banks 5:12 Speaker 4: open excuse is saying that people who use peptides are shady people. Like that's why that's 5:18 Speaker 4: what high risk people, 5:19 Speaker 4: are the people buying them are the shady people. That's why a high risk like payment processor, they have to be high risk. What they're talking about high risk is the customers using the payment processor. They're saying that you are shady because you are bad people and you will do chargebacks all the time. 5:37 Speaker 4: So which I don't think is, 5:39 Speaker 4: I don't think there's, 5:41 Speaker 4: you know, exceptions. Every rule, there are some, yeah, absolutely. There's some assholes out there who do charge of get their stuff and just do chargebacks because they're greedy. 5:49 Speaker 3: That's you, you suck. That's you, you suck. But 5:54 Speaker 4: for the most part, hell no, I don't think that anything is at all about, but in fact, I think people actually buying peptides are probably 6:01 Speaker 4: more responsible and more educated and more affluent than most most consumers. So 6:06 Speaker 3: see things coming down the pike and they're maneuvering for health. 5 Yes, absolutely. But shades of amino acids are unhealthy. 6:16 Speaker 3: You'll sell that somewhere else. Gubby, 6:18 Speaker 3: wrong place. 6:20 Speaker 3: But today is everybody's favorite. And we want to talk real quick about school and that. That 6:27 Speaker 3: is going amazing. 6:28 Speaker 3: We had just figured out our analyst guy that was running some numbers yesterday and 6:33 Speaker 3: it's cool to have an analyst guy. 6:36 Speaker 3: You know, those guys are good at what they do. 6:38 Speaker 3: And we were in top 13 right away out the gate, you know, it came out swinging and that grew really Top 6:44 Speaker 4: 13 schools 6:47 Speaker 4: the fitness category. Sweet. Right. Okay. Keep going. 6:51 Speaker 3: Because so many people are active on it. So if you're active on it, keep doing that. You know, it's your community too. We are doing our best to give the best 7:01 Speaker 3: information that we have, and we don't ever pretend to have it all. We just do our best to give you the best. And that's 1 goal. The 2nd goal equally as important is just to connect like minded people that are 7:14 Speaker 3: seeking 7:15 Speaker 3: something outside of Western medicine, seeking something, just chasing growth, seeking true health, 7:21 Speaker 3: all aspects, 7:23 Speaker 3: diet, nutrition, supplementation, 7:25 Speaker 3: all of it. And it's been a rad group of people lifting each other up. Gosh, I love that. I started deleting people off of my social media in 2026. 7:35 Speaker 3: You talk shit, I delete you. 7:37 Speaker 3: No, we're talking shit. Like not going to have any of that negative stuff. I'm like, it's been great. It's all clean now for the most part. 7:44 Speaker 4: Some people swipe through, but delete. And we're going on. So on that school, like again, we've 7:51 Speaker 4: encountered some 7:53 Speaker 4: problems, 7:54 Speaker 4: I suppose, not of people, not of like actual users, but like the man. 7:59 Speaker 4: So we've to 8:02 Speaker 4: bobby weave a bit. And so 8:04 Speaker 4: our school now is essentially dedicated like to peptide of right? This is peptide of the week and like peptide research. 8:12 Speaker 4: In fact, peptide research institute, 8:15 Speaker 4: but you will find it. Yes. I mean, it is just purely education. 8:19 Speaker 4: We are working really hard to give 8:22 Speaker 4: a lot more really good kind of custom 8:25 Speaker 4: stacks conditions protocols, 8:27 Speaker 4: From us, from all of our extensive experience. 8:30 Speaker 4: And that will be, we'll put some of them 8:32 Speaker 4: on there, but a lot of them for the elite section, because they did took a lot of time 8:37 Speaker 4: and 8:39 Speaker 3: yes, and good information. They're dope, are fortunate ass off. They look great. Yeah. 8:44 Speaker 4: So now you will, I guess, we'll 8:47 Speaker 4: put out a new video and to tell you the new exact name of the school because it is, no longer what it, what it was named. So we'll, we'll put a link on this video because 8:57 Speaker 4: we're still deciding frankly. We're 9:01 Speaker 3: used to it. 9:03 Speaker 4: But we're committed to putting some really good, 9:06 Speaker 4: some damn good information out there for that everybody from All Watch Life can use different protocols, right, for all these questions that people ask, you know, we're trying to make, you know, protocols literally for everybody, for every situation that somebody encounters. 9:20 Speaker 3: And yeah, so more and more and more is being created and created just to give out to everybody. So for the lead, it'll be some small price tag monthly, but I'm sure anybody that would understand the amount of work that goes in, which is a lot, it would be well worth it just because of the fact that I would imagine you would want to. 9:38 Speaker 4: Like no doubt. 9:40 Speaker 4: And we weren't, dude, we were not here to like rob anybody and provide and charge money for not a good service. So our goal is to make the value proposition 9:49 Speaker 4: a way better value. In fact, it already is based on the discounts that you get from other stores that we give you for being an elite. 9:56 Speaker 4: Here is, I just wanted to run, here are some other schools that 10:01 Speaker 4: are talking about rankings. Okay? There is a school there for 10:05 Speaker 4: underwater breath holding, 10:07 Speaker 4: and that 1 earns $3,000 a month. 10:11 Speaker 4: There is poop scooping business earns 48 ks a month. 10:17 Speaker 4: Donkey hoof trimming, 10:18 Speaker 4: Well, they only earn 1,000, 10:21 Speaker 4: but menopause fitness owns 40 10:24 Speaker 4: 49 ks a month. Damn. 10:26 Speaker 4: Survival gardening, 10:28 Speaker 4: $4 a month. 10:30 Speaker 4: People make money on crazy ass things. Thinking outside the box, baby. 10:35 Speaker 4: Outside the box, man, those people change the world. Hey, that last menopause thing, you, we will be putting out some good information for, for the ladies and menopause because that's huge. We hear that constantly. 10:45 Speaker 4: So 10:47 Speaker 4: yeah, 10:48 Speaker 3: we got new things coming. Yeah. We're going do meetup. Talk a little bit about that. We're going do a meetup. I threw it out there to see if people, how people would bite. Didn't think that they would, and they did. 10:59 Speaker 3: And we're always curious. You don't know who's listening or what they want, but it's always cool to hear that. There's a lot of people that would probably come and break some bread with us and we'd love to shake your hand and just meet you. You 11:11 Speaker 3: know, I it's cool. I was up in Vegas and I had a few people notice me up there and it's still a little bit weird, 11:17 Speaker 3: you know, Hey man, you know, I call you and like, I love getting to meet people for, but just, you know, and like what led our paths together. And it's like, it's such a big world, but at the same time it's small. 11:29 Speaker 3: I love that stuff. So we get to shake your hand, break some bread. We're going to, we're going to, we were just talking about this. We're going to have La Carneseria, 11:37 Speaker 3: my favorite restaurant, 11:39 Speaker 3: Catery. So good stuff, my friends. 11:43 Speaker 4: We'll do this. 1 All right. So here we go. We're getting into question number 1. This is where we're starting. Hopefully we have the same question. Yes. Hello. I have a question for my wife from post pregnancy. 11:53 Speaker 4: I wanna get my wife on peptides after the baby is delivered, 11:57 Speaker 4: since she will most likely need a C section. I was going to get her onto the Wolverine blend also to offset hair loss. I was planning on getting her on GHK- GHK- 12:06 Speaker 4: Since she will be breastfeeding, 12:09 Speaker 4: will these peptides be safe for the baby or even get into the baby's system? Also, is there any other peptides you guys would recommend for postpartum? 12:17 Speaker 4: Thank you and love the podcast. 12:20 Speaker 4: Good 1. Good 1. All the president hasn't popped up more. Yeah. It's tough. Like, I don't know. I can 12:27 Speaker 4: the breastfeeding portion. So 1st thing is I'm always just incredibly amazed on how 12:33 Speaker 4: resilient a baby is and unaffected by what mom does. 12:38 Speaker 4: You know, it's like baby is born, like literally in the womb, right? You're made of the mother's blood and everything in her. Yet if she has these some like terrible, like I don't know, if she has HIV, like the baby's not gonna have HIV. Like, it's crazy. Like, how does that work? How does the baby not have that? Yeah. Right? 12:56 Speaker 4: I've known anyway, so that amazes me now. There is the problem. Can't the baby- 13:03 Speaker 3: chances are, I mean, there is a heroin addict pass it on to their children. You can be addicted, but you have to be doing a ton 13:10 Speaker 4: of heroin. 13:12 Speaker 4: And yes, there's fetal alcohol syndrome, right? There's all this stuff, but like 13:16 Speaker 4: you have to be doing a lot, a lot, a lot of it. Anyway, the thing is though, 13:20 Speaker 4: breastfeeding is the challenge. That's the scare that's actually the scarier part because 13:26 Speaker 4: your body metabolizes 13:27 Speaker 4: these, peptides. It is just, it is changing 13:31 Speaker 4: things in your body and then it's coming out of the breast milk. Generally, like the breastfeeding stage is like- Huge. Huge. Is the stage where you've- Developing of the brain. You don't want anything else in your body that isn't natural. So to be honest, 13:44 Speaker 4: as far as all of these seem very 3 like, I mean, this is looks as safe as you can get. I just don't feel safe saying 13:52 Speaker 3: during the breastfeeding stage to take any of this stuff. Yeah. I was going to wonder how you're going to answer that. 13:58 Speaker 4: Topical, 13:59 Speaker 4: topical GHK-1R 14:01 Speaker 4: your head, on your head, shampoos, right? GHK-1R 14:04 Speaker 3: shampoo, face serum, go ahead. I mean, I would lean a little bit towards the probably the Wolverine. I just believe it's so, so, so like fine in regards to just, I don't think there's any worry or concern. Anything 14:17 Speaker 3: else though? And that's me just being 14:21 Speaker 3: tiptoeing, even saying that. Obviously, Will and I almost always are going to air 14:26 Speaker 3: on my side of caution. You're for the healing of the wound for the C section. I think that you could run it for a short time. 14:34 Speaker 3: I wouldn't run anything else, you know, zinc, vitamin C, those things will help with wounds and stuff as well. Why mess with it? Why even mess with it? You know, there's a lot of what ifs, but 14:45 Speaker 3: if there's any 1 that could be negative, it's too many. 14:48 Speaker 3: So just 14:49 Speaker 3: probably on the side of no. The GHK-3Cu, 14:52 Speaker 4: right? This is copper peptide. Copper is a 14:56 Speaker 4: not saying you're injecting like metal into your body, but still 14:59 Speaker 4: that's the stuff that like, hey, you can have, you know, you can do too much GHKCU and it can harm you. Like, 15:05 Speaker 4: I would say no on that 1 for sure because it could get into the breast milk. And, you know, she'll be 15:11 Speaker 4: Women have C sections all the time. She'll heal. Post 15:14 Speaker 4: breastfeeding, right? Absolutely 15:16 Speaker 4: use serum. There is a lot of cool stuff and especially like the GHK- 15:20 Speaker 4: SNAP-8 serum put on topically. 15:23 Speaker 4: And I would actually use SNAP-eight around 15:26 Speaker 4: the stomach post breastfeeding to help like tighten up the skin again. But 15:31 Speaker 4: during that 15:33 Speaker 4: and here as well, because these things get swollen 15:36 Speaker 4: and then leave some stretch marks. Yeah. 1 of the easier ways to tell somebody's age is neck and chest. Right? Yeah, we're smoker. Yeah. Yeah. And smoker, why? Because smoking nicotine, like, deoxygenates 15:49 Speaker 4: your blood. Right? And blood is life. Right? And 15:53 Speaker 4: if you have less oxygen and less good blood flow coming to the skin, that's why smokers have wrinkles because their skin is dying at a faster rate than 16:02 Speaker 3: regular people. Yeah. They're not getting all the nutrients that they should be getting. Thing is smoking is kind of not that many people smoke anymore. I think I was walking the other day. I'm like, is somebody smoking? Like, I haven't heard smoke that smell in a long time. It's gone. Every once in while I haven't smoked in 16:16 Speaker 3: 13 years, I think. Well, no, no, no, Maybe 10, something like that. I think 5 years I gave up smoking, but, 16:22 Speaker 3: I have sobriety, but man, every once in while I'll get a smell of a cigarette and I'll just figure it for a quick 2nd. 16:28 Speaker 3: 0, I had that old smell, but it's crazy. You remember like, oh gosh, you feel dirty smoking. Yeah. Like at the end of the day, I was like, you 16:36 Speaker 4: freak when you go to the elevator. It's nuts to think, like, I think I was like, when I was in college, you could still smoke in bars. Right? 16:44 Speaker 4: Imagine today, like, you're in a bar in a crowded ass bar, right, where you're squeezing through people and people got cigarettes in their hands. You know? It used to get ashed on you, you know, holes burnt in your clothes, 16:55 Speaker 4: and it's just disgusting in there. Like, we can't even really imagine that nowadays, but that used to be just commonplace 17:02 Speaker 4: in your hair, girls. I know my parents used to smoke it like a Denny's, 17:05 Speaker 3: the ashtray. They're eat the pancakes, take a drag, get a cigarette. Oh man. Yeah. Yeah. When I, when I had flown up for, I used to 3 fly for a job and do sell stuff and flew all over and, and dude, Missouri still smoked 17:21 Speaker 3: inside and I had never seen it. I was like, 17:24 Speaker 3: Woah, that sucks. 17:25 Speaker 4: Yeah. 17:27 Speaker 3: No bueno. No 17:30 Speaker 3: way. Early fifties guy, 17:33 Speaker 3: guy who found peptide 5 months ago and they have changed my life. All right. Body comp and health. I found you guys about a month ago and have listened to all shows. My question is related to supporting 17:46 Speaker 3: shalation 17:47 Speaker 3: therapy 17:48 Speaker 3: that my wife is about to undergo. 17:50 Speaker 3: Early fifties, great shape. Retta 3 times, it says a month, but I'm assuming that 3 times a week, 5, 6, 120 pounds, very healthy. And I'm about to begin TRT. 18:01 Speaker 3: The metals lead, 18:03 Speaker 3: mercury 18:04 Speaker 3: have caused extreme fatigue, 18:07 Speaker 3: brain fog, and cognition issues. 18:10 Speaker 3: Chaletian 18:11 Speaker 3: with DMSA 18:13 Speaker 3: can be tough on the body and we want to support her with healthy peptides 18:19 Speaker 3: with chosen peptides. Already started GHK- 18:22 Speaker 3: to raise glutathione levels and thought about adding KPV, 18:26 Speaker 3: Tessa IpiGH 18:28 Speaker 3: stimulation, 18:33 Speaker 3: Dihexa, 18:34 Speaker 3: Tesofensine, 18:35 Speaker 3: BPC oral blend, 18:37 Speaker 3: MOTS-3one 18:39 Speaker 3: thoughts or additions, 18:41 Speaker 3: additional ideas. 18:43 Speaker 3: Thank you. Keep up the great work. 18:46 Speaker 4: That was quite a bit. That's quite a bit. And I think that, so 1st of all, what the hell is chalation therapy? So what it is is somebody who has too much heavy metals of whatever kind, right, that are poisoning their blood. 18:58 Speaker 4: It's, I think the oversimplification 19:00 Speaker 4: is like, they just run a big magnet through your bloodstream, 19:03 Speaker 4: right? Like that magnet that we would that 19:06 Speaker 4: stirs things, Put that in. And it just grabs onto all the the metals in your blood and pulls them all out. Okay. And they use that as like, this is supposed to be a, 19:18 Speaker 4: and it sounds like 19:19 Speaker 4: he is doing, she is having this done for the absolute need, 19:23 Speaker 4: right? Like 19:24 Speaker 4: the metals lead mercury have caused extreme fatigue, brain fog, right? The cognition issues. So the doctors have said, Hey, you need to have this therapy done. You need all your heavy metals pulled out. So are all these heavy metals that should not be in there. The problem is that it is, it can be very rough on a person's body. Like they, like he said, because it's pulling all the good nutrients and minerals out of your body. Okay. That are we need to have some level of 19:50 Speaker 4: metals AKA, right, minerals in our body that help, 19:54 Speaker 4: but this 19:56 Speaker 4: pulls those out too. So 19:58 Speaker 4: concern is it's going to pull everything out and we need to, you need to kind of replenish all of that stuff. 20:05 Speaker 4: I'm sure the doctor has told you some other vitamins to take, right, to replenish what they're pulling out. 20:10 Speaker 4: But I think that attacking some of the symptoms to get your body health, I think glutathione is the number 1 thing that you should that you really, really, really should be doing. 20:20 Speaker 4: NAD plus also, but I think MOTS-11s, 20:23 Speaker 4: SS-thirty 1, absolutely, to kind of boost up your mitochondrial health 20:28 Speaker 4: when you're after you've pulled all that stuff out, your body's going to be kind of beat down. Think that indirectly the Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin is a good idea just to help some, with some, some growth recovery. Dihexa is a really good idea. 20:41 Speaker 4: What else did you say? Tesofensine. 20:45 Speaker 4: Absolutely. You might just learn that she just likes that a lot. I do. I like it a lot and I take it consistently 20:52 Speaker 4: and nobody, can't like the BPC oral blend is good for every single person in the world. Like you're, everybody needs their gut health to be, to be better. And 21:02 Speaker 4: I would take that too. 21:04 Speaker 4: Additions? 21:05 Speaker 4: Honestly, not really. That's kind of a lot. It's a lot, but it's not too much. And none of these are being are redundant. You kinda look at 21:12 Speaker 4: you you are you're losing a kind of a broad spectrum of of things during this therapy. And so it's kinda nice to enhance your body in a broad spectrum on the way after. 21:23 Speaker 4: So that's what I got. The the controversy on the Schalace stuff is there's a lot of, like, health clinics that are just saying, hey, do 21:31 Speaker 0: Hey, Detroit. Class it up with Crocs. 21:34 Speaker 0: You know back to school is coming in fast, 21:36 Speaker 0: so why wait to find your new fave footwear? 21:39 Speaker 0: Step into a local Crocs store and step into your new look. 21:44 Speaker 0: Try it, style it, make it yours. 21:47 Speaker 0: Because the right pair doesn't just show up, it shows off. 21:51 Speaker 0: 1st day fits, handled. 21:54 Speaker 0: Walk out ready for whatever's next. 21:56 Speaker 0: Visit your nearest Crocs store today. 21:59 Speaker 4: This 22:00 Speaker 4: voluntarily, 22:01 Speaker 4: like, oh, you don't have any heavy metal poisoning. You don't have extra high levels. You know, you're fine, but metals are bad, 22:08 Speaker 4: right? And then they just do this voluntarily 22:11 Speaker 4: voluntary 22:12 Speaker 4: therapy and 22:13 Speaker 4: they're just pulling out all the good nutrients out of your body. 22:18 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of Ipu? 22:20 Speaker 3: I 22:21 Speaker 3: have done it. I don't know if that would fix your bride's problem, but it might be worth it to do 1st before 22:29 Speaker 3: you do this. I don't know the comparison in regards to prices and all that stuff. Would imagine your insurance covers this Ipu probably not, but I've done it. And you basically, 22:38 Speaker 3: it's like an oil change, a blood change. They take out blood from you and then they put it through the system and it cleans out heavy metals and toxins 22:47 Speaker 3: and plastics. 22:50 Speaker 3: You see it dripping into this little bucket. 22:54 Speaker 3: You're supposed to do it 3 times. I only did it once, I won't actually do it again. 22:57 Speaker 3: But you might try that. EBOO, E B O 0, I think it's spelled. 23:02 Speaker 3: And they are, it's big in Dubai and in places like that, but they definitely are doing it here. Lee, 23:08 Speaker 3: Nurse Lee from here that we had on the podcast does that. That's where it did it. So you might want to check that out. In regards to 23:16 Speaker 3: everything else or some extras, 23:18 Speaker 3: you know, how much do you want to take? 23:21 Speaker 3: I don't know. My opinions on that has changed in recently. I used to take a lot and I can tell that I think I do want to, I tone it down and how do you know it's doing what? Right? So 23:32 Speaker 3: MOTS-thirty 23:33 Speaker 3: 1, great NAD, like you said, obviously the Wolverine added some B12, 23:37 Speaker 3: add in Thymosin Alpha, that's for immunity. So you can add in those and 23:42 Speaker 3: old school. I think you should add in some fasting for your bride. Now women and men are different in regards to what 23:50 Speaker 3: is recommended for fasting. 23:53 Speaker 3: But keep in mind, 23:55 Speaker 3: know, God knows what He's doing and He can heal the body. Our body heal does heal itself. Fasting is truly, truly, truly amazing. My belief is if you get cancer, should do a 25 day fast. 24:07 Speaker 3: It thrives on glucose. You suffocate the hell out of that glucose and there's been huge, huge, 24:12 Speaker 3: huge amount of people that have even beat cancer from just fasting because your body 24:18 Speaker 3: will 24:19 Speaker 3: deplete itself. And when you're at 16 hours alone, you start autophagy. 24:24 Speaker 3: So autophagy is when dead cells die off, 24:27 Speaker 3: fall off and brand new ones take their place. So think about an extended fast on how that would be. So I would definitely recommend it and try it, 24:36 Speaker 3: because it's, there's a reason it's been around forever. 24:39 Speaker 4: Hey, if you got cancer, what do you got to lose? You 25 days of being really hungry. That's what I said. Shit. 24:44 Speaker 3: I mean, what's 25 days out of your whole life? Like walk into like a time bomb and like inject yourself with poison. 24:50 Speaker 3: Again, I'm not judging, but I walked my sponsor through it. I'd never seen it. It's brutal. 24:56 Speaker 3: That stuff is brutal, dude. 24:58 Speaker 3: Fasting for 25 days or injecting yourself with a time bomb that you hope you don't die. Yeah, shit. That's 25:04 Speaker 3: brutal. 25:05 Speaker 3: So hope that helps. I think if you do some of that stuff, it'll, it'll work for her. Good luck on that. Keep us posted. Yep. Yep. I am all right. I recently got my blood results back. My cholesterol, 25:15 Speaker 4: LDL and APO B, 25:18 Speaker 4: were out of range on the high side and out of range. My diet is tuned in low carb, high fat, 1 g protein per pound of body weight. Are there any peptides that you know of that would help, that would address this? If 25:31 Speaker 4: if not, do you know any other way you can address this without putting my money towards big pharma? 25:36 Speaker 4: Know, I don't know of any other way. Oh wait, I lift 4 times a week minimum with 30 minute cardio, 30 minutes cardio. I understand you guys aren't doctors, but honestly I trust you more than more than a ton of them. Anything that helps boys. Thank you. God bless. So 25:51 Speaker 4: yeah, that's interesting. Would, my 1st, 25:54 Speaker 4: this isn't like a perfect cure, but like Reta, Reta is going to be to 25:58 Speaker 4: lower your cholesterol 25:59 Speaker 4: semi indirectly, but that's what I would try 1st. And I would do a low dose. Like I wouldn't go crazy. I think that for this purpose Does he say his body weight? 26:09 Speaker 4: Nobody says his diet's tuned in and 26:12 Speaker 4: he's up on his exercise. More cardio. So Retta, I'd low dose it, right? I'd start with like 0.5 a milligram 3 times a week and do that consistently for like 2 months and then go get those, go get yourself tested again to see what happens. Also, I know you say, do you cardio, but cardio is a huge thing that will help this. So do more, try, 26:31 Speaker 4: try to do more. 26:35 Speaker 4: Omega-three fatty acids, fiber, 26:38 Speaker 4: that I'm sure you've looked up some other, but those types of things. So good fiber. That means like lots of vegetables, 26:45 Speaker 4: lots of vegetables and take a omega-three fatty acid supplement 26:49 Speaker 4: that can't hurt at all. That can, that actually should help. Do cardio and 26:54 Speaker 4: red is about the biggest thing that 26:56 Speaker 4: that's the best 1 to help. 26:58 Speaker 3: So that's what I got. Yeah. My opinion's going be a little different. 1st, I would start off with what's high and subjective. And if you're going to ask my opinion, I think that's a bunch of bullshit. You know, I've studied cholesterol just because of the carnivore diet and ketogenic type diets. I don't believe I don't trust doctors in any form about saying high cholesterol. We saw a run around like 3 50 give or take cholesterol and everybody was thriving and doing well. And now all of sudden at 200, they try to give you a statin drug and do 27:27 Speaker 3: not do that, 27:29 Speaker 3: sir. Whatever you do, do not go on a statin drug run from any doctor that wants to prescribe it. A lot of people don't realize that a lot of the problems that lie with people 27:40 Speaker 3: are in low cholesterol. 27:42 Speaker 3: Cancer is in low cholesterol. There's just so many problems, low cholesterol. It's so subjective on what the numbers 27:49 Speaker 3: mean, but if you're like at 200 and your doctor's 27:52 Speaker 3: telling you it's your high cholesterol, 27:56 Speaker 3: run. 27:57 Speaker 3: That started changing in the late seventies when they started to get people off fat because the sugar companies want to sell more sugar. So they took fat out of the food 28:06 Speaker 3: and they had to replace it with something because there was no taste because fats the taste and they replaced it with sugar. And then came seed oils and everybody got fat. So when you eat fat, you don't get fat. That is amazing for you. What's the 1st thing that we eat? 28:21 Speaker 3: Breast milk is full of fat and cholesterol. And there's a reason because it develops brain, baby's brains and whatnot. 28:28 Speaker 3: So that's my take on that. 28:30 Speaker 4: I'll stop there, but I am not in agreement with him. He's right though. Like what is high? I would look at your numbers. Some 28:37 Speaker 3: get, or some doctors are just not. Try to put my dad on stat and then I'm like, dude, not even tell me that he was always considering it. I'm like, do you not know who your son is? I'm the king of fat dad. 28:49 Speaker 3: But that's, I would, I would say that he got it right. Tesa Retta, I would say would be my 1st. 0 yeah, Tesamorelin. Right. Those 2 would be great. 28:58 Speaker 3: Fasting. 29:00 Speaker 3: Fasting is amazing. You will have huge, huge, huge, huge results with fasting. 29:06 Speaker 3: You know, we're so programmed and I know this is a peptide podcast, 29:10 Speaker 3: but we're so programmed to take something. So are we, we're used to it. Like, what can I take to feel better? 29:15 Speaker 3: And I think if we slap slow down and get to the basics of life, again, I believe God knows what he's doing and our bodies know how to heal themselves if we properly feed it and give it the proper nutrition. 29:26 Speaker 3: Fasting is always going to be 1 of my answers in a lot of cases. 29:30 Speaker 3: You have your diet in line, 29:32 Speaker 3: but again, we're programmed to take something. So if you're going to take some LILRETTA, Tesa, a couple of other ones that will be helpful, I think for your gut, there's going to be KPV, Wolverine, 29:42 Speaker 3: NAD, 29:43 Speaker 3: all those will be pretty well for you. But I'd say fasting, man, and I would do, please not don't take a statin. 29:50 Speaker 3: I'll 29:51 Speaker 3: say that last time. Who's that? Me? A 1. Okay. 29:54 Speaker 3: All right. What's the shelf life of MOTS-1C 29:58 Speaker 3: reconstituted? 29:59 Speaker 3: Does it lose potency right after mixing? 30:02 Speaker 3: I think so. 30:03 Speaker 3: Not 30:04 Speaker 3: drastically. I mean, I don't think anybody truly knows the answer to this. If they tell you then that's 30:10 Speaker 3: in my opinion, don't listen to that person because if anybody tells you they know, they probably don't know. It's kind of a guesstimation, 30:18 Speaker 3: I would say in just reading about this stuff and it's every peptide is different. 30:26 Speaker 3: Maybe 4 to 30:29 Speaker 3: 6 to 8 weeks. What's your take on that? I'd say about that. Yeah. Rough. I mean, here's the thing. Don't mix your peptides if you're not going take them. Do not mix peptides, do a shot and then leave it for 3 months and go, Oh shoot, I still have some MOTS-1C. Like you're not doing it right. You just paid money for that. 30:44 Speaker 3: Most peptides will be done in a few weeks, so you should be good. If you leave it, will it still work? Sure. Will it be the full potency? No. No. So 30:55 Speaker 4: you got some time. Keep in the fridge. It will probably it'll retain. I mean, like I would say that 31:00 Speaker 4: if it's in the fridge 31:02 Speaker 4: for 30 days, 31:04 Speaker 4: you're good. You're fine. It's probably still right about it, but in the 99th, 31:08 Speaker 4: 98th percentile of its potency. 31:12 Speaker 4: Heat fluctuations 31:14 Speaker 4: is bad for it. Right? 31:16 Speaker 4: Light fluctuations is bad for it. But yeah, I think you're right. I think that on the super conservative end on maybe the ones that go that degrade 31:23 Speaker 4: rapidly, like 2 to 4 weeks, 31:26 Speaker 4: but shit, I know, I mean, I had a neighbor that was doing Semaglutide 31:30 Speaker 4: and she was up to us. She literally had a bottle of, I think, Semaglutide in my fridge for a year, 31:36 Speaker 4: came back and did it again and it worked just fine. Yeah. Fully, fully worked great. Yeah. My bill people also who've, who've literally done kind of the same thing and then was like, oh, 4 months later, oh shit, I didn't know I need to refrigerate it and it still works great. 31:51 Speaker 4: And if anybody's right. If anybody gives you a diff like there is no way, sorry folks, we do not know that, hey, like MOTS-3D degrades at a 2% rate. Yeah. 32:00 Speaker 4: Which is like every, you know, it degrades by, you know, 1.66 32:04 Speaker 4: mg 32:05 Speaker 4: per 14 days 32:07 Speaker 4: left at 32:08 Speaker 4: 79 32:09 Speaker 4: degrees, right? Nobody's 32:12 Speaker 3: saying, nobody knows. Maybe 1 day. It's not there yet. Maybe not. Yeah. Just do your peptides. Just do the peptides. Easy enough. Right. 32:17 Speaker 3: That should be easy now. Is that me? Oh, I am. So 32:21 Speaker 4: I'm loving Retta and I tell everyone I know about it. My daughter-in-law is intrigued and very worried about gaining weight once she stops. 32:28 Speaker 4: I don't see a lot of information about women who go off, Retta, probably because why would you? 32:34 Speaker 4: Anyways, I know you say, 32:36 Speaker 4: if your hormones are optimized, diet is dialed in, exercise is happening, and you're sleeping, you should be able to maintain weight. 32:43 Speaker 4: What other reassurances can I give her? Thanks so much. Okay. I mean, here, that's a valid question. Okay. 32:50 Speaker 4: When done incorrectly, 32:53 Speaker 4: yeah, you can lose, you could probably gain some weight back, right? Because it does have a, some effect on your appetite. 33:00 Speaker 4: Appetite is tied to, 33:03 Speaker 4: or I mean, our metabolism is tied to how much food we actually put in our, how many calories our body is used to think of it that way. So 33:11 Speaker 4: if you do this and then you start 33:14 Speaker 4: maximum, like lowering your calories, let's say the 500 calories a day, which I, which I don't think, hopefully nobody is doing. But if you do that lower to 500 calories a day, do that for a month. And then, and you're able to maintain it because you're on Reta. And then all of a sudden take the Reta out and now your hunger goes up 1 and you start eating 3,000 calories a day. You're going to gain weight 100% 33:35 Speaker 4: that 33:37 Speaker 4: out. So 33:38 Speaker 4: here's what you do is you just, when it's time to get off, 33:42 Speaker 4: you just very, very slowly just wean, wean off and 33:47 Speaker 4: exercise a little bit of no skills as, as, 33:50 Speaker 4: like hunger comes a little bit of urges come back. 33:53 Speaker 4: But you have, while you're on it, you exercise really good habits and namely 33:57 Speaker 4: add muscle while you're on it. So you add the more muscle we have, the faster our metabolism 34:03 Speaker 4: and the less likely that you're going to gain any weight back because your muscle just burns that fat off. 34:09 Speaker 4: So 34:09 Speaker 4: while you're on it, keep eating, right? Don't just stop eating. Retta, the benefit to Retta is that you don't, it's not like you just go, I don't want to eat any food at all. It's just kind of forces small portions, small frequent meals on you, but that's good. Make sure you're eating enough protein so you keep in fact, maybe hopefully even gain a little bit of muscle 34:27 Speaker 4: while you're on it. And then if you feel like coming off and nobody really says 34:31 Speaker 4: you have to actually at low doses, like it has been shown like this is good for you. So, but if you want to come off, just ever so slightly weaned down 34:41 Speaker 4: and stop. If you're going, oh wow, I have like a big urge, then chill. There's nothing that says you can't wean down and then stay for a couple of weeks until your body gets, you know, balanced out and then keep weaning down. Okay. Give yourself time, 34:54 Speaker 4: be forgiving, and then you'll just, you'll be just fine. 34:57 Speaker 4: Eat protein. 34:58 Speaker 3: Eat protein. Keep muscle on. Well, that's what keeps metabolism fast and that's what keeps fat from coming back. Yeah, my daughter-in-law was intrigued, but very worried about gaining weight once she stops. So I'm assuming she wants to take it to stop, to lose weight. So she, I'm assuming she needs to lose weight or wants to lose weight. So like getting caught up in what ifs is silly. Like there's, you know what I mean? I hate the what if game? Like, what if this, what if that? I would be some analytical friends and like, I'm like, Dude, bro, like, you're what if ing me? 35:24 Speaker 3: What if nothing happens? 35:26 Speaker 3: So I would take that out of the equation and just to be positive. 35:29 Speaker 3: You are going to lose weight. That's what you're going to do. Be positive, think positive, talk positive. And that's really like how life works. Like start talking, 35:37 Speaker 3: you know, good things into your life. You're going to lose weight. You're going to eat better. You're going to change your life. Start talking to yourself about that. So let's not talk about the what ifs. 35:46 Speaker 3: And we already handled in regards to titrate down. You can always go back on. People do it all the time. So if you need to lose weight, this is going to help you get there. Don't worry about you gaining the weight back. It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Right? Same thing. It's like, it's better to have 36:04 Speaker 3: lost a bunch of weight and then gain some back than to never have lost any weight. This guy nailed it. The hormones optimization diet is dialed exercise happening. You got it. So if you do that, you're good. Good to go. All right. All 36:16 Speaker 3: right. How does 36:18 Speaker 3: CJC-1MQ 36:19 Speaker 3: differ from Tesamorelin 36:22 Speaker 3: and Tessa Ipi if they both just stimulate the pituitary to release growth hormone? 36:28 Speaker 3: Confused by CJC-1P 36:30 Speaker 3: is marketed for muscle growth, recovery, sleep, but Tesamorelin is for visceral fat. Wouldn't that do the same thing? That's a very good question. Actually, I really 36:39 Speaker 4: like your question because I have the same 36:42 Speaker 4: questions for like, wait 36:44 Speaker 4: a minute. It is just, it's like, it's a mimic of the GHRH, 36:48 Speaker 4: which just stimulates pituitary 36:49 Speaker 4: and pituitary is really the 1 that's doing the work. Doesn't your pituitary 36:54 Speaker 4: doesn't my pituitary do the same thing if it's stimulated by this thing or that thing? Right? 37:00 Speaker 4: Well, I don't really have a super great answer for you. I think it does. But It 37:05 Speaker 4: It does. So 1st of all, 37:07 Speaker 4: if we're talking 1 thing that gets mixed up is the CJC 37:11 Speaker 4: with DAC. 37:12 Speaker 4: Okay? That makes it a very long lasting and that makes your pituitary just constantly 37:19 Speaker 4: be on and 37:20 Speaker 4: and trying to produce growth. Okay? That will produce a way bigger effect. Well, way more growth hormone. Okay? 37:27 Speaker 4: Not naturally, 37:28 Speaker 4: not the way that our body does it, which is in quick pulses. 37:32 Speaker 4: So that's a huge difference that in Tesamorelin, because Tesamorelin, the whole point is it stimulates pituitary and pulses, right, just like our body does. So quick quick hits. 37:43 Speaker 4: But then if we go CJC with no DAC, okay, the whole point of that is to make it natural, look like it's natural, 37:50 Speaker 4: like our body's natural pulsing, which is just like Tesamorelin. 37:52 Speaker 4: So now we got 2 things that are pretty much the damn same. Like, you're right, dude. They're very close. The thing is though the Tesamorelin because based on because of its amino acid design, 38:03 Speaker 4: it actually is signaled to 38:06 Speaker 4: go work on your liver 38:08 Speaker 4: and your like abdominal 38:10 Speaker 3: area more 38:11 Speaker 4: than CJC 38:12 Speaker 4: is. Okay? And therefore 38:14 Speaker 4: the signaling that it's telling your body, hey, let's work on 38:18 Speaker 4: here. It will actually kind of stimulate and activate a bit more fat burning on your liver as opposed CJC 38:25 Speaker 4: is more of a broad signaling. 38:27 Speaker 4: Okay? 38:28 Speaker 4: So it is your pituitary can be activated, 38:32 Speaker 4: but, 38:34 Speaker 4: in the same way, but these peptides can kind of, yeah, 38:38 Speaker 4: activate more. So CJC 38:40 Speaker 4: is really with, say, like a broad signaling 1. So it is gonna help a little bit more recovery because it's focusing more on everything on 3 that area. Whereas Tesamorelin is focusing its efforts 38:50 Speaker 4: on your abdominal and your liver. That's the best answer I possibly can think that's right. It's 38:56 Speaker 4: a tough question. It's a bad, it's a really good question too. I think just broke it down perfectly. CJC 39:01 Speaker 3: is going to focus on sleep recovery and Tesamorelin is going to focus on that belly fat. Are they very similar? Yes. A lot of people have reactions to CJC more and more and more and more the longer we do this, do we run into people that have histamine responses to CJC in particular? So if I had to choose, it's always going to be Tesa. 39:19 Speaker 4: Ready? Yep, I would agree. All right. Who's up? I think I am. 39:24 Speaker 4: 56 year old male, 5 11, 200 pounds, 10% body fat, and pretty jacked now thanks to you 2 guys. Since 39:32 Speaker 4: listening to your podcast, I dropped 40 plus pounds. It's 13% body fat. Damn. 39:37 Speaker 4: I'm on TRT, 200 mg split, 39:40 Speaker 4: 2 times a week, 2 75 free, 1300 39:43 Speaker 4: total. Yes. I 39:45 Speaker 4: take peptides in 16 week cycles, currently on 6 mg of Retta, 39:50 Speaker 4: 2 mg times 3 days a week, MOTS c s s 31, 5 amino s 5 amino 1 m q. High dose of SLU-three 32. 39:58 Speaker 4: Before bed, I take a test of Ipra blend. 40:01 Speaker 4: I also take glutathione, HCG 2 times a week. I'm coming to end about 16 weeks. I wanted your opinion on what to do next. I'm an elite masters athlete, CrossFit, 40:10 Speaker 4: HYROX, DECA, and looking to continue to improve my endurance engine and strength. I train 15 to 20 hours a week and looking to just keep getting stronger and better as an athlete. I've been, 40:22 Speaker 4: I have been such an inspiration to my school. I'm a teacher, community, and family by trying to get help everyone I touch be healthier version of themselves. Thanks again. Can't wait to hear your opinion. Boom. Yo. Yeah. Sounds like you've kicked some ass, seriously. Hell yeah. That's rad. That's awesome. Go ahead. You can throw out throwing some answers. I mean, you got a lot. I think, for you, 40:44 Speaker 3: you're on point, man. Here's some here's some stuff that you could switch it up. You obviously know what you're doing. You 40:50 Speaker 3: know, you're the teacher of the class, you know what's up. You can take out 40:56 Speaker 3: some of the things. Think after a while, the MOTS-8 necessarily want to go give it a break. I'm just speaking of with experience. 41:02 Speaker 3: I would take that out for a bit. You can replace it with NAD 41:05 Speaker 3: plus. 41:07 Speaker 3: You can do, 41:09 Speaker 3: you can take out the TES-1IIPA. 41:11 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you, dude, you are 56. 41:14 Speaker 3: You need to get HGH now. HGH is like right next to, they're like best friends. TRT and HGH to me are like best friends. So I would say add an HGH, 41:23 Speaker 3: no more than 2 IUs, Will might say maybe 3, depends on how big he is. Five'eleven, I'd say 2 IUs. 41:29 Speaker 3: For 41:31 Speaker 3: that, 41:32 Speaker 3: you can now, you can do 2 options 41:35 Speaker 3: to 41:36 Speaker 3: increase some strength. 41:37 Speaker 3: Now the lesser of the 2, which 41:40 Speaker 3: I have not noticed a big difference in strength or body composition is going to be IGF-1LR-three. 41:47 Speaker 3: It's there. It's 41:49 Speaker 3: Some people say it's the closest thing to gear on a peptide scale. Actually, 41:53 Speaker 3: JC Campbell would disagree, and we're learning that too. 41:55 Speaker 3: But IGF-one is great. I would take it after you lift. 41:58 Speaker 3: 2nd option would be- 42:00 Speaker 0: Hey, Detroit. Class it up with Crocs. 42:04 Speaker 0: You know back to school is coming in fast, 42:06 Speaker 0: so why wait to find your new fave footwear? 42:09 Speaker 0: Step into a local Crocs store and step into your new look. 42:13 Speaker 0: Try it. Style it, make it yours. 42:17 Speaker 0: Because the right pair doesn't just show up, it shows off. 42:21 Speaker 0: 1st day fits, handled. 42:23 Speaker 0: Walk out ready for whatever's next. 42:26 Speaker 0: Visit your nearest Crocs store today. 42:29 Speaker 3: MK-six 42:30 Speaker 3: 77, 42:30 Speaker 3: which is not a peptide 42:32 Speaker 3: but is a non peptide secretagogue. 42:35 Speaker 3: It will absolutely 42:37 Speaker 3: give you some strength, give you some 42:40 Speaker 3: muscle tone. 42:41 Speaker 3: You will 42:42 Speaker 3: most likely get hungry. 42:44 Speaker 3: If 42:45 Speaker 3: you can contain that in your discipline, which I'm assuming you are because you sound like you're an avid lifter and whatnot, I think MK-676 42:53 Speaker 3: is great. It's 42:55 Speaker 3: just the closest damn thing that you're going to get to gear. 42:58 Speaker 3: I'd compare I I personally have taken both, so I compare it to Anabar. Now there's people that are gonna disagree with that. I'm just telling you my experience of taking a both. I I I felt the same. I felt like I looked the same. The only difference is the food thing, which I'm pretty damn disciplined. So that for me was fine, but you will get size. So if you want that and 43:21 Speaker 3: you could add on AOD-nine 43:22 Speaker 3: thousand 604 and 43:24 Speaker 3: that will be just continuing to burn fat. 43:27 Speaker 3: And the last 1, last 2, I'll say, Cardene. You can replace the Cardene with SLU-3. I think you can stay on the SLU-3.5 are going to both give you stamina. 43:36 Speaker 3: Cardene's great. I remember years and years ago, Will had brought it up to me and so I obviously started reading about it and I remember I took it. I loved it. I thought it was great. I definitely felt like I had more stamina in the gym. So card reading is great. I think you should maybe replace that with SLU-4A bit, 43:51 Speaker 3: give it a break and then go back on in 16 weeks or whatever. And the last 1, I'll just say just for your immunity, you're getting old and we all, I love this 1. It's TA-one Thymosin Alpha-one boost 44:02 Speaker 3: your immunity, keep you healthy. Hopefully 44:05 Speaker 3: those give you some options to replace 44:07 Speaker 3: your stack with another stack that would I believe equally as well. Add the HGH still no matter what, my opinion. Yep. 44:14 Speaker 4: Carter and 1st things stand out like, dude, you did the type of, 44:17 Speaker 4: you know, the CrossFit, 44:19 Speaker 4: athletics 44:20 Speaker 4: and endurance, 44:22 Speaker 4: will love Carter and it's going to, you're going to kick so much ass. Try that, Try that for sure. 44:27 Speaker 4: You know? Yes. So the IGF-1LR-three, 44:31 Speaker 4: if to add some muscle, it's just gonna make your body just add lean muscle. So there's that. I swear by it. Some fat burners to replace the, 44:39 Speaker 4: you know, 5 m 1 MQ. 44:41 Speaker 4: And this loop is kind of so we're thinking, yes, Carderine replaced this loop. Try the try HGH frag 1 76, 1 91, which is basically AOD just a little bit more effective. It's got 1 more amino acid. So either AOD or HGH frag for, to replace as a fat burner to keep you lean. 45:01 Speaker 4: Sure, I would switch to just the good old HGH. 45:06 Speaker 4: You're of the age and that's the time. 45:09 Speaker 4: This time it'll work, it'll work better and you got it. Yeah, it'll work really well on you. That's what I would do for sure. And 45:17 Speaker 4: stay on it. I wouldn't do anything to your test. Your test just seems to be working great. Don't go any higher than that. You 45:23 Speaker 4: don't need to even change the Reta. 45:26 Speaker 4: Shit, man. Everything else you said is great. I agree with it. Make a few little changes and have fun. Keep us posted, See how you do. Yeah. 45:34 Speaker 3: I'm up, right? Yes. 50 year old male, five'ten, 162 45:38 Speaker 3: workout 3 days a week 45:41 Speaker 3: with weights, 3 days cardio. I'm strict carnivore. 45:45 Speaker 3: Had thought about trying IGF-1LR3 45:49 Speaker 3: read that needs to have carbs. I don't take any take with any carbs or take any carbs. Sorry. I figured my fellow carnivore J might, 45:57 Speaker 3: might could help me with that since 46:00 Speaker 3: not many of us carnivores in the world, but does seem to be catching on more and more. Keep up the great work. Just discovered your podcasts and have really been enjoying it. I am trying to recover from a chronically dislocated 46:15 Speaker 3: rib 46:16 Speaker 3: in my back at my T spine that I have ignored for far too many years. 46:22 Speaker 3: Physical therapy is going well. My doctor gave me the Wolverine stack perfect to help with recovery, 46:27 Speaker 3: but I live alone. I have trouble reaching that spot on my back to try to inject 46:33 Speaker 3: locally into an injury. 46:35 Speaker 3: Is injecting in the abdomen, 46:38 Speaker 3: just wasting the BPC-157 46:41 Speaker 3: or will it still have some benefit or do I need to try to figure out a way to get it in that spot on my back no matter what? That's a great question. I think it's great. Yeah. Question. Yes. Very good question. Go ahead. You can answer them on. I think the 46:57 Speaker 3: IGF-1LR-three 46:58 Speaker 3: is going to definitely work better with carbs, especially after you lift, you want to have some carbs. This is nutrient partition is going to push those suckers right into the muscle. You've heard Will say, this is 1 of the things that got me super intrigued 47:10 Speaker 3: by when we 1st kind of started reading about it, he's like, you can have a big carb day and it's just going to like push those carbs into the muscle 47:17 Speaker 3: and you'll wake up super lean. So I put it to the test. I went and ate a bunch of sushi when I was on carnivore and I woke up lean as hell. So it worked. 47:26 Speaker 3: Will it work without the carbs? Sure. Will it work better with carbs? Sure. 47:31 Speaker 3: Again, 47:32 Speaker 3: what's your objective? There might be some other things that might be better again. MK-six 77 might be better for you. 47:39 Speaker 3: So 47:40 Speaker 3: it's just, it kind of really depends on what you want. 47:43 Speaker 3: Now, lastly, 47:45 Speaker 3: my experience with that is the Wolverine. When I had my back surgery, 47:50 Speaker 3: obviously the, my back, I did not inject it into my back. I injected it sub Q in my stomach. And that was 47:57 Speaker 3: with the Paul bacteria who had told me to go through that protocol, 48:03 Speaker 3: me to just do it sub Q. The 48:06 Speaker 3: TB is going to obviously travel better. I think with them both, they just really work well with each other. I mean, sure, it could work a little bit better than BPC if you get to your back. 48:16 Speaker 3: I think it's going to work great. I think it's gonna work great, just sub Q. Sometimes for me, just, you know, sometimes for me now because I can move, you know, and I'll turn around and just pinch some fat in the back and try to get it as close as I can. And that's just me not trying to have another surgery. I'm not hurting back there, but I don't want her back there ever again. So 48:35 Speaker 3: I'll kind of twist around. 3 I don't think it's that necessary though, dude. So that's my take. 48:40 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think, I think that just putting, putting in your stomach will systematically work. Like it'll get there. 48:46 Speaker 4: Works for me to do. Better to be right into your back. But dude, when the app if you just can't, you can't 48:51 Speaker 4: still put in your stomach. And I think that, 48:54 Speaker 4: yeah, getting it as close as you can, hell, you might even wanna just go intramuscular on top of your butt cheek. Good. Yeah. Yeah. 49:00 Speaker 4: Sure. Every once in a while, you know A lot of people do. Just kind of rotate it from, you know, stomach to there. 49:05 Speaker 4: It'll get the closer it is. Yeah, the better. Yeah. Work a little bit better close, but 49:10 Speaker 4: it's still totally worth doing it. A lot of it if you can afford it. Yeah, a lot of it. And then, yeah, he's right on the, I mean, the IGF-one. 49:17 Speaker 4: Yeah. So somebody who's on just no carbs whatsoever in doing IGF-one, I guess the worry is 49:23 Speaker 4: pulling too much, 49:25 Speaker 4: well, sugars out of your body and then going into this like, you know, hypoglycemia shock. Right? I don't think that risk is that much, but there is that potential risk. Even if you're on cardio, if you're on carnivore, right, and you are in keto and you're worried about getting thrown out of keto because you have to eat carbs, 49:44 Speaker 4: really the thing is if you can eat just a little bit of carbs with that injection, 49:49 Speaker 4: carbs are not even gonna throw you out of keto. Okay? Because your body's just gonna whack suck them up and get rid of them. Like rice cake, something like that even like something that's like those 49:59 Speaker 3: carbs that push it right into your- you're just- There's a little bit of sweet potatoes, a little bit of rice. Yeah. Right after you lift, it might be a little bit better talking to carnivore. So it really will, it will work better or just do MK-six, 7, 7. 50:12 Speaker 4: Yeah. 50:13 Speaker 4: Alright. Next 1. Hi guys, as ever, thank you for everything you do. You're building a really helpful community. I've heard you mention a couple of times on the pod recently that particularly 50:22 Speaker 4: for women, but maybe also for men, you are moving away from recommending Ipamorelin 50:28 Speaker 4: when Tesamorelin 50:29 Speaker 4: is also being used. Can you explain your thinking on that? Will said he 50:34 Speaker 4: thought a 1 to 3 ratio 50:36 Speaker 4: would be good if 50:38 Speaker 4: we're doing both things. I'm 56 year old female and I've written in before. This week I started my 1st course of Ipah in the morning and my 3rd course of tests in the evening. So I'm thinking about what to do. I've been taking 500 mg of micrograms of Tessa 50:53 Speaker 4: and 2 50 of the IpA, 50:56 Speaker 4: but I might scale that back down to 200 and go a little heavier on the Tessa. Also taking 51:02 Speaker 4: 3 50 mg of AOD in the AM and wondering about going up on that. 51:08 Speaker 4: Goal continues to be losing those last few percentages of body fat after a major recomposition and weight loss journey. 51:15 Speaker 4: Just curious to know the reasoning of your shift because all the information is useful. Thank you so much for your insight and feedback. 51:20 Speaker 4: Good question. So let's see to clarify. 51:23 Speaker 4: I think I do remember talking about this. What 51:26 Speaker 4: I had 51:28 Speaker 4: said was, 51:30 Speaker 4: 1st of all, 51:31 Speaker 4: I have never strayed from the fact that I definitely think that taking a GHRH 51:37 Speaker 4: and a GHRP together 51:39 Speaker 4: is the right thing to do. Okay? They work in conjunction with each other. I have never strayed from that, but what I did stray from is Dosage. Saying is dosages and going, I think that women especially, why? 51:51 Speaker 4: Women usually want fat burning. Okay? They don't want 51:56 Speaker 4: the gross portion as much. Some do, some really want that muscle gain, but they want the fat burning while keeping lean muscle. Okay? Right. Tesamorelin 52:06 Speaker 4: is especially, 52:07 Speaker 4: as we've talked about, good for that belly fat for belly fat burning. 52:13 Speaker 4: Ipamorelin 52:14 Speaker 4: is 52:16 Speaker 4: just increasing those pulse size. Okay. Women are very sensitive. 52:20 Speaker 4: Ipamorelin is really the stronger of the growth hormone of the actual growth hormone properties. It's coming from Ipamorelin. 52:27 Speaker 4: So when women are sensitive, 52:29 Speaker 4: when women have a little too much of that growth hormone, they start to retain a little bit of water. And then that makes them unhappy. So 52:37 Speaker 4: for women, based on what as a generalization, 52:41 Speaker 4: what your goals are, 52:43 Speaker 4: I think heavier on the Ipamorelin 52:45 Speaker 4: because of everything I just said. And then 52:48 Speaker 4: so a 3 to 1 ratio 52:51 Speaker 4: with the Ipamorelin. I still want to enhance those pulses a bit more, but not at the same rate as the Tesamorelin 52:58 Speaker 4: because we worry about the water retention potentially for you and we would like, and I bet you want extra extra belly fat burning 53:06 Speaker 4: and not extra extra growth and water retention. So that is the reason and that's, that is what I said. 53:14 Speaker 4: Hopefully that made sense. There's my thinking. They're like, yo, I really appreciate the question. That's very good. You're right. Knowledge is just more knowledge is useful. So 53:23 Speaker 4: that's the thought and do with that as you will. The name of the game though, is about you experimenting 53:30 Speaker 4: with you 53:31 Speaker 4: trying things out. 53:32 Speaker 4: I don't know if you're going to notice any of the difference between 2 50 micrograms and 200. 53:38 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm just talking for me because I'm 2 50 pounds and like that, like that little bit of an adjustment, I guarantee you, I won't feel for woman and 53:47 Speaker 4: of your age and weight. Yeah, you might. Absolutely. Yeah. It's always different for women. And I'm 53:53 Speaker 3: going to be in a different opinion because I just think women do fine with just the Tesa. I just don't really ever recommend the Tesla Impa, but Will has always backed 54:01 Speaker 3: out. He's talked about it forever. Now, will say your age, I think that what would be rad if you did 1 IU of HGH, 54:08 Speaker 3: I think that would do wonders alone for you. We're obviously advocates of human growth hormone because it's freaking amazing. 54:16 Speaker 3: And that's in my opinion, better than any of the secretagogues. 54:19 Speaker 3: So I would say if you wanted to add that, I would personally say 1 IU of 54:25 Speaker 3: HGH in the morning, 54:26 Speaker 3: just the test at night. Now, can you up your dose of AOD? Of course you can. It doesn't raise your IGF-one. 54:34 Speaker 3: There's a fine line of when is it just not when you're just taking more where it's not really doing much. 54:40 Speaker 3: I just see him for women, you know, now 56 is different. My wife is 54:44 Speaker 3: about 20 years younger, 54:46 Speaker 3: but it just women do just a little bit. 54:49 Speaker 3: Like, Will, bit don't notice anything, but for women, a little tiny bit, I added her, Tesa, just a tiny bit. And like she, he just said, she started retaining water like crazy. She did a little bit. And so I would say, try that, try the Tessa at night, HGH in the morning, and then the obvious, if you're trying to get to your goal, you want to expedite it, throw in a little bit of Retta. 55:12 Speaker 3: Ding ding. If you haven't, you didn't mention it. So I imagine not. 55:16 Speaker 3: There's a reason we talk about it on every podcast like a 100 times because it freaking works. So 0.5, 55:22 Speaker 3: 3 times a week would do you wonders. You'll burn that fat right off your girl. Hope that helps. Who's 55:28 Speaker 4: the last 1? I will take it. 55:31 Speaker 4: Question 10. I have an oral BPC question. I've heard JT say several times BPC is the only peptide he would consider giving to his son for an injury. I have a kid going through what we think is Osgood Schlatter. 55:44 Speaker 4: He has active he is active, but nothing crazy. He just plays football and baseball. 55:49 Speaker 4: We have him stretching and we deloaded 55:51 Speaker 4: some of his activities. 55:53 Speaker 4: He's doing better. Still though, as a dad, I can't help but want to do everything in my power to help. Right? Do you think oral BPC could help with some of his inflammation 56:02 Speaker 4: in his legs? Maybe the transdermal would be better. 56:06 Speaker 4: Injection isn't an option. I don't mind poking myself, but I'm not doing that with my teenager. Thanks. You 2 are awesome. Awesome. I hope the show keeps growing. So Oskins 56:14 Speaker 4: Osgood Slaughter, the funny thing is I've always I had this too when I was a kid. Like, and it's really 56:21 Speaker 4: is it feels like jumper's knee, which is patella tendonitis. So it's like right on your tibia 56:25 Speaker 4: where your 56:27 Speaker 4: knee, where your patella goes, patella attaches 56:30 Speaker 4: from your 56:32 Speaker 4: patella tendon, attaches for your kneecap down to your tibia. Right? And 56:36 Speaker 4: people who have jumpers knee get that thing gets swollen 56:40 Speaker 4: and inflamed. I've always had it in both of my knees, which is crazy. But Ostenslauter is a little bit of like a it's almost like a burn bone spur right 56:48 Speaker 4: on the attachment below the kneecap. 56:51 Speaker 4: So and maybe that'll leave a bump. 56:54 Speaker 4: I think that, 56:56 Speaker 4: I think the BPC orally cannot hurt. 56:59 Speaker 4: It can help 57:01 Speaker 4: healing and can help reduce inflammation everywhere. 57:04 Speaker 4: I would do it. 57:06 Speaker 4: If I if it was my kid, I would do that. Yeah. I would also probably inject my kid with the BPC, but I totally understand. Sitting by Johnny. But I totally understand. And maybe my kid 57:16 Speaker 4: wouldn't let me. So I don't know. Then I wouldn't do it. But, 57:21 Speaker 4: yeah, dude, but like, I respect your opinion. You don't wanna I get it. Cool. Don't don't you don't don't do that then. Don't inject him. That's fine. But I would try the BPC. 57:30 Speaker 4: And that's a, you know, that's 57:32 Speaker 4: that sucks. It's a it's a painful, like, knee issue. 57:36 Speaker 4: I had, I think, but I had, and you said, Hey, I think so, right? I went to doctors and they thought they diagnosed it. It was a long time ago, so now I'm kind of, I don't exactly remember if I had like a full diagnosis or if I just had patella tendon tendonitis, 57:49 Speaker 4: which is what jumpers need. And you see the guys in the NBA or in the NFL running around and they have like a little strap 57:56 Speaker 4: right underneath patella 57:58 Speaker 4: tendon or right underneath their kneecap. That's basically pushing their kneecap up 58:03 Speaker 4: and that helps relieve a lot of the stress 58:06 Speaker 4: on that tendon. 58:08 Speaker 4: Also, 58:09 Speaker 4: why here's the deal. Why people get jumpers knee and you see it a lot of basketball players because they're skinny and they don't lift weights. They don't have enough, a, quad strength. K? 58:18 Speaker 4: And 58:19 Speaker 4: and, b, they don't have enough equal hamstring to quad strength. Right? When 1 of them just becomes, like, bicyclist. 58:26 Speaker 4: Right? There's no hamstring going on. You're just pushing quads, quads, quads. You get overdeveloped there and then we have imbalance and that causes problems. But so quads and hamstrings need to be developed equally, 58:36 Speaker 4: but also this quad needs to be developed. When you're jumping, 58:40 Speaker 4: you don't want all the stress being on that tendon. That's not what you want contracting really fast and pushing the load up, right? You want that whole giant ass muscle 58:50 Speaker 4: to be the thing doing all of the load with the tendon helping connect that to the other part of the body that springs. 58:58 Speaker 4: So 58:59 Speaker 4: quad strength, quad strength, quad strength, and like slow, like holds like flex 59:04 Speaker 4: quad up and just kind of hold, hold, hold for a long time. There's a lot of rehab that you can do, but the BPC is probably a good, probably helpful also. Yeah. 59:14 Speaker 4: Orals, maybe 59:15 Speaker 3: it's not going to hurt. It's not going be obviously like the injection because it's more mainly for like gut inflammation and, but obviously it can trickle down to your legs for sure, but better 59:24 Speaker 3: than nothing. 59:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. Give it a try. Think we'll answer the rest of it, but I would feel comfortable with giving my sons, which I probably will 59:32 Speaker 3: when they're in high school and whatnot. Maybe there might as well be something a lot better by then. I don't know. 59:37 Speaker 3: But if they were in high school now, I would absolutely 59:41 Speaker 3: give them the pills. I 59:43 Speaker 4: would test, I would feel his So here's the crazy thing. Like I've always had, dude, I would go to the training room 2 hours early to practice. My knees, my patella tendons would just be like swollen. 59:54 Speaker 4: And 59:55 Speaker 4: whatever I used to, I would jump a lot and I could jump pretty high and 59:59 Speaker 4: maybe it was just, yes, overuse, not enough strength because I didn't lift a whole bunch of weights when I was in high school. It was just pure like I just played sports. 1:00:09 Speaker 4: Did you not live in high school? You lived in high school? Did a little bit, but I was, but that was not Yeah. There was people that were more advanced lifting. Like I did start in my junior, 1:00:18 Speaker 4: senior year 1:00:20 Speaker 4: in, yeah, I gained muscle pretty easily, but it wasn't my, there was people who started to try it a lot harder than me, but I was a lot better than them. As he eats his cookie. Yes. 1:00:30 Speaker 3: Naturally. 1:00:31 Speaker 4: Right. But 1:00:33 Speaker 4: here's what I would say if I remember here. 1:00:38 Speaker 4: I don't know. I forget now, but 1:00:40 Speaker 3: maybe I'll remember it again in a 2nd. That was good though. Great question. I mean, we're 1:00:46 Speaker 4: always going protect their kids. Is what I want to say. Because nowadays if I go play basketball and and I've noticed this maybe a couple years after I was done playing sports, like, could go run 2 2 hours of basketball and be hot, sweaty everywhere, and you put your hands over my knees where my 10 where my patella tendons are, and they're ice cold. Like no matter what. It's crazy. Right? Like, and so no wonder 1:01:07 Speaker 4: I would get tendonitis in there really bad, right? And no blood is getting, for some reason, no blood is getting to those tendons. So anytime you have a tendon and it's cold, then you use it repeatedly, 1:01:17 Speaker 4: you're gonna develop a lot of inflammation and and tendonitis. 1:01:21 Speaker 4: Yep. So 1:01:22 Speaker 4: in hindsight, 1:01:24 Speaker 4: wearing just a neoprene knee brace, not because I'm worried about the stability of my knee, but just frankly, just to keep that area warm 1:01:31 Speaker 4: probably would have saved me a whole ton of 1:01:35 Speaker 4: pain 1:01:36 Speaker 4: and sitting 1:01:37 Speaker 4: out and actually better, a lot better performance because I could have gone, you know, a 100%. So 1:01:42 Speaker 3: think of that maybe. There you go. So the tip I got hindsight. 0 Good episode. Right under, right under an hour. We did good today. We did good today. So join the school. We'll let you know about the get together that we'll be doing. And other than that, 1:01:58 Speaker 3: do we have anybody on this week? No, we're going do the Pepatide of the Week on Friday. 1:02:03 Speaker 3: We've discussed 1:02:04 Speaker 3: maybe having your hair guy on, maybe even Paul back to you, are back on. 1:02:08 Speaker 3: So somebody probably next week, don't know who are. We'll let you know. But other than that, you have a great time. We'll see you next time. Good night.