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1:24Speaker 4Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. I am your host, JD Denham. Across the way, mister William T. What
1:33Speaker 4up? What's going on, dude? Everybody, I read the comments. I know you probably read some, but
1:45Speaker 5and good luck. So how'd it go? It went very well. I thought that I wasn't gonna be nervous. Told you.
1:51Speaker 5But I was. Right? Right. I was early and beat him to dinner. Folks, I tend to be late sometimes. He does.
2:00Speaker 5I was there 15 minutes early, and it was good. We started with just kind of some small talk and then I messaged, okay, like, let's address the elephant in the room. Actually, he was funny. He was, he's like,
2:15Speaker 5I was like, no, dude. No. No. Legitimately, not that I know. He didn't have an idea? No. And then he then he was like, okay. He's like, I thought it was gonna be 1 of 2 things. Right? Either that or both.
2:26Speaker 5But I said no. And then, you know, I said, I'm let's just get it out of the way. So I asked him,
2:38Speaker 5And he was good. He was cool. He's like, dude, of course. Yes. He's like, you're the only guy that she's ever dated that isn't a douchebag.
2:53Speaker 5like, not that I know who she dated, but just, man, from dating different girls and I hear some different, like, horror stories about what guys do
3:07Speaker 5being such pussies about things. Like, handle your business. So what? There's other girls in like, had a girlfriend who worked at Nordstrom and the boyfriend,
3:17Speaker 5and he immediately went and took all of the naked pictures that she had sent him. No. Because like that's what people do. Emailed
3:24Speaker 5them all to her boss. Oh, dude, bro. Bad form, dude. Bad form, bro. Just, just, 3 just jealous, you know? And
3:33Speaker 5that's, and I've had, I think I even have some couple other worse stories just from other girls. Like, this is like a constant.
3:38Speaker 5Oh dude. Jealousy is the worst, worst ever. Oh my gosh. Like, there's jealousy in anything. I'm he boards over. Yeah. Over that, dude. Not over that stuff. So that's good. Anyway, so back to the back to yeah. He's like, you're year. I would be happy. I was nervous. It's a big deal. I was nervous. It was it is a big deal. And the funny thing actually, the more I talked to him, yeah, the more I kind of realized that this is a big deal. Oh yeah. That's sacred, man. I wish more people treated it that way. It was funny. I, when I got married,
4:05Speaker 4I was with my 1st wife, I was so young, so probably not then, but with Alyssa, I was so just aware of those vowels. I said them and I truly like was like thinking through the just depth
4:17Speaker 4of those as you say them. They're very deep when you really like think about them because people just say them and don't really think they don't really think so. Death do you part, obviously, is the most common known 1 is you dude, you know? Love you and like, yes, sickness and health. I
4:40Speaker 5raised his daughter and his other daughter has a little baby, right? And his is the protector and responsible person, right, for his whole life.
4:52Speaker 4he's thought of you for years, bro, because I have a daughter and I always thought of who my daughter would and, you know, not to put on a blast. Love him. He's a great guy, but he didn't ask for my hand. I was a little bit, my wife goes,
5:04Speaker 4if the only you're the 1 person on the earth that like, he should know that like, you're so like that. I'm like, he's young though. I didn't do that for my 1st wife. So I was
5:13Speaker 4young. You would have thought your daughter would have told him. Yeah, I don't know, man, but he's a kid. Works for sometimes. As
5:24Speaker 4And that's pretty much it. It's a really low bar to have. Don't be a dick and don't be a treater before you dismiss and you'll be good. You know mean? So have a good worth ethic ethic. You'll be chilling. That's funny. Don't like low bar, right? Well, speaking of, so
5:39Speaker 5So River back home at home, right, has like, was kind of being a dick and got his electronics taken, which is like a daily thing basically. Torture for you. And
5:49Speaker 5then he's like, oh, hey, have I been have I been good? Do I earn them back? And I was like, alright, look, dude. So just
6:00Speaker 5just because you sat quietly. Yeah. Right? And like, we're looking for proactive action. Right? Like, to earn something, you don't have to just
6:09Speaker 5bar is not that low where you don't have to just not be an asshole. Yeah. And that's earning it. Right? You need to we expect you to go willingly feed the cat, help somebody,
6:23Speaker 5That's what earning something looks like. Right. It's rough. It is rough. It's rough. It's rough.
6:29Speaker 5So yes. I don't know. So we're still working on that. Mean, but hell, you know, in AA, right? We have people grown as men
6:36Speaker 5that sell like they've been destroying their family for years, right. Or their girlfriend or whatever. And then they get sober. They go to detox.
6:46Speaker 5Didn't come back. Like, we should get a party. Like everything's look how good. Look how awesome I am.
6:57Speaker 5are now just not destroying things. Like that is not a, that's not, you don't get a party for being like a normal person.
7:05Speaker 5Entitlement is a thing. Yeah. You need and this and this type of stuff in in that situation, it's like, bro, it's time. Like, you just gotta show consistency in being sober and not being a dick, like, for time. It can't I don't care. You can't you can't work really, really hard and do a bunch of things. This just needs to be consistent
7:33Speaker 4he said to me something that I still give him a shit for. He said, There's no take backs.
7:38Speaker 4So I thought that was funny. I didn't know him enough to know if he was joking or not, but still to this day, don't think he was. But anyways, I got what he meant, I think, very quickly because my wife is very accident prone. She had like 6 flat tires, I think the 1st year and I'm like, I know what you mean now. No take backs. Oh, that's hilarious. So he was really getting shit all the time.
7:59Speaker 4Needs a lot of taken care of. You know, she's a sweetheart, but man, she's, she does some funny stuff. Love you, man. Know you're listening. Yeah. What else did he say? I mean,
8:10Speaker 5he was good. Right? And he said, he's like, you know, if I cry, it's not just, I mean, he's like, well, whatever you call me a fag. I don't know. That's I got 2 daughters that I love
8:26Speaker 5Man. It's a welcome family. And then he asked about like, Hey, well, what are you guys doing for, for the wedding? Was like, well, I haven't even yet asked her. Just asked you 1st. He said, are you going to ask her mom, take her mom out to lunch? I probably shouldn't. And I think after that I will. And he was like, he's like, cause you don't really have to. It's okay. They kind of, you know, they're divorced and don't, they coexist well, but there's still some jabs. It'll play well. There's always those.
8:51Speaker 5Still have those once in a while for 20 years. And what else? Oh yeah. The wedding too is like, he's like, what are you going to do for the wedding? You're not going to like suit and tie
9:07Speaker 5think we probably have our shoes off for the wedding somewhere, somewhere on a beach with just
9:15Speaker 5Mean, shit, it's a big deal and it's, guess, for us. So let's make it just comfortable and be the way that we roll. Do that. So
9:39Speaker 5things I've ever done in my life. Yeah. But for a different story. Right? That 1, that was tough. Yeah.
9:46Speaker 5But it might be I'm excited. Yeah. So we're rolling. Big deal. If you guys didn't have long
9:51Speaker 4time, him getting hitched is a big deal. Yeah, it is. Yeah. It wasn't the type of guy that was going to,
9:58Speaker 4but she's a sweetheart. We love her. She's a good catch, man. You got to get 1. She is. Easy
10:15Speaker 5to be attracted and the sex has to be there. Right? What do they say? You know, well, sex and money are the 2 biggest things that
10:34Speaker 5I'm, yes, we're both like just thoroughly attracted to each other and I'll still will be attracted to her even if she's
10:44Speaker 4like we do little things that like a lot of people don't do, believe it not, if I'm at the store, babe, you need anything from the store. I know that sounds stupid, but like there's a lot of guys that don't do that. Like, here's a, this is common courtesy and just treated with respect and it's not that hard.
10:57Speaker 4I don't know. So it's possible to be with somebody for a long time. I'm still mad. I wouldn't mind coming up on 14
11:03Speaker 4years with Alyssa in August. That's crazy. That is crazy. Yeah. It's a long time, dude. We're still
11:10Speaker 4head over heels, man. She's a good 1 though. That's awesome. We got a good 1. We're both good
11:14Speaker 4stuff. All right. So we got the Q and A and these are some good ones. We scrolled through them separately like we have been doing and it's been working out well. So do the honors, man. You're always up. Hey
11:30Speaker 5sure. Yes, please. Why don't I have some other document here? All right. Hey man. So number 1 folks. Hey man, not sure if this is a question for the show, but I'm having somewhat of a wild issue with my peptides.
11:40Speaker 5Seeing if, this has ever happened to you, I take morning and night peptides. I'm trying to narrow down which peptide is doing this, but at night when I inject SLU-, ISA, Ipi, Tessa,
12:04Speaker 5hindersion, the induration lasts sometimes to the next day. To make sure you understand, I mean, I'll give you an example. Let's say I inject in the morning, my morning peptides in my abdomen
12:14Speaker 5and in my legs at night, They are all affected after the night dose. My belly swells only after the night injection. And it's sometimes a site that I haven't injected in a couple of days. Sorry to be so long winded, but it's a wild situation. I really think it's GHK. I do too.
12:35Speaker 5Yeah. Bizarre. Was it. That was it. It's weird. Like she'll inject it and like she'll get those little rashy things all over where she's injected. I'm like, that is weird. Yep. Everybody's just very different and sensitive sometimes. She's sensitive. I think that it, for sure, it's the GHK- is. I think it's the GHK- For sure. That's the 1 that is,
12:52Speaker 5yeah, it's a histamine reaction, obviously. Right? And all, from all of the peptides in it, I mean, it might just be all of those sites that you injected just the GHK- Yeah. In the past. Right? I would I kind of think of that. Here's what I would do is I would I mean, that is normal. So I suppose, you know, we've people feel this. I would pull the GHK completely. See if it does it. See what happens. Right? Just pull it. Let it get out of your system. Keep doing everything else. It there's a potential,
13:23Speaker 5And then, hey, if you really if you wanna try and reintroduce the GHK, I would do it just like go let's start. Reintroduce it real small and not frequently. I don't know if you're doing it every day, but I wouldn't do it every day, maybe 3 days a week. But if you're gonna reintroduce very small.
13:47Speaker 4does it bug you? I mean, if it's just kind of itchy and if it's like super rashy and it's annoying, sure. Stop it. If you can deal with it, I mean, does it and
13:55Speaker 4hers goes away fairly quickly within an hour or so, but if it bugs you, then stop. But yeah, that's the best way to look at them and pull it out. If it stops, there you go. There's a culprit. Easy peasy. Good stuff. All right. I'm 62 year old, generally healthy male and generally healthy male. And I just finished the cycle of MOTS-seer. I started out with 500 micrograms,
14:19Speaker 4At week 2, my allergies kicked into really high gear. I usually have allergies in the spring,
14:39Speaker 5But have you guys had any feedback regarding this? I've heard about it. Yes, again, and I did say kind of oops, MOTS-1C was a potential culprit. So there you go.
15:08Speaker 5And that is allowing you to be, to have these allergies affect you a bit more. Right? Because we're not seeing like,
15:22Speaker 5spot induced like the guy before, right? All those spots, that sounds like a histamine reaction. I think that this 1 is anamine
15:55Speaker 4So we had done a little research on this after we had Doctor. Scott on because it was something that popped up. I don't remember the exact conversation, but we were talking about how he
16:05Speaker 4took MOTS-1C and just was like energy off the charts where his wife was like, what's wrong with you? You know? And I didn't feel anything like that. So we were curious. I don't remember what the exact conversation was, but we dug into that because we were curious if
16:23Speaker 4and vice versa? And we dug into that. What's that? And we basically figured it out where if you don't feel it, you basically, your mitochondria is healthy. If you feel it, it means it's really ramping it up. So it's like trying to repair it. And you're just like, Woah!
16:38Speaker 4So that's probably something going on with you is there. I mean, MOTS-3s going to affect the immune system a little bit too, so that can enhance that. My digging into this for you is
16:48Speaker 4would generally run its course fairly quickly if you wanted to. I mean, you were out the tail end, it sounds like of your cycle anyway,
16:54Speaker 4I bet if you kind of stayed on, it would kind of dwindle out as your body- Yeah, I would, I think that your
17:09Speaker 5that's interesting, man. Everything is, everybody is different and reacts differently. So you're not like weird, but
17:16Speaker 5these things just happen. MOTS-1MQ May not, if the, if this is causing just too much discomfort,
17:28Speaker 5All right. Number 3. So I just started my peptide journey 2 weeks ago. I started with Reta and CJC.
17:45Speaker 5You shouldn't count calories anyway, so that's perfect. That you hate it, don't do it. Yeah. So You
17:56Speaker 5naturally, my measurements are getting smaller, but I've been stuck at the same weight for about 4 months now. I do weight training 4 to 5 days a week,
18:12Speaker 4Let me take that. Yeah, go ahead. I'll add some Retta, well, it sounds like you just started the Retta. Right? She said 2 weeks She got down from 2 26 to 1 70. But I think that was with her just dieting. She says I started Retta. So I just started my party 2 weeks ago. So there there's the answer right there. I mean, the Reddaugh is going to just jumpstart that without a doubt. Is the Reddaugh CJC a good stack for you? Sure. It sounds like you haven't done anything yet. So anything pretty much you're going to do, you're going to feel
18:44Speaker 4any of the shows, we're going to tell you the run is just a scientific breakthrough and you're going to break through that plateau without a doubt. So
18:52Speaker 5easy peasy. Yeah, you're in a good spot. So I would say that, yeah, there's nothing wrong with what you're doing. And like, so 1st of all, 2 26 to 170 is huge. Like that's amazing.
19:04Speaker 5No doubt that you're at a plateau, right? This is your body's like natural biology protecting.
19:21Speaker 5winter and low in food scarcities. And the only ways we survive through that is by our body,
19:27Speaker 5holding on to tissue and holding onto fat because that keeps us warm and is our backup,
19:38Speaker 5that means you definitely were overweight because you lost it all. Everybody didn't like to be that overweight, but now it's going, Hey, we've lost a lot and I need to, let me, I want to hold on to all this stuff. Okay.
19:50Speaker 5So 1st of all and also so so you're you're fighting some biology now, which everybody does, and it makes sense that you're at a plateau. Okay? But we gotta work your way around that plateau.
20:00Speaker 5A, you did say that your weight is not the scale isn't moving, but your measurements are. So like, shit, that is the whole, that's what you want. Right? This is your body recomposing,
20:15Speaker 5this may sound dumb, but like if you lose 2 pounds of fat and you add 2 pounds of muscle, your weight stays the same.
20:26Speaker 5some pictures of like, of different women who have, who are 10 pounds heavier, but did a full body recomp
20:33Speaker 5and 10 pounds heavier. And they look, I mean, they look like they're 40 pounds lighter, but just because the composition is completely different, they lost fat, replaced it with muscle in the right places and look amazing. So you are doing the right damn things. I would say
20:47Speaker 5the CJC, I would maybe, Hey, I'd swap that out for Tesamorelin. Good point. Let's get some like visceral fat and belly fat burning. It's going to be your most powerful,
20:59Speaker 5Also I would add some MOTS-1C in just for basic, like metabolic rate, just increasing your metabolism,
21:13Speaker 5I don't know. Your weight training sounds all- Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes,
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21:47Speaker 4Yeah, you need to trick your body. We all do. We've been working out forever. And what happens is we get so like comfortable with what we like,
21:55Speaker 4our diet that works for us, the way we work out. I mean, it's still for us. Well, I've been working on our whole life and still we, I get so caught up sometimes in just doing the same stuff. I just started that a couple of days ago. I'm eating like 5 meals a day and I'm not going to fast at all, which is really strange for me because I've been doing it for so long. I just want to change. I'm a lift heavy. I don't use a lift heavy, lift heavy, eat a lot, no fasting, but it's going to trick my body. And then I'll go back to what I like maybe in May.
22:24Speaker 4you try other things. You might like some other things too. You know what I mean? Diets, there's so many diets that work there. If any, if any fitness guy or any coach or whatever tells you this is the way and this is only way then jump ship because there's all kinds of ways to skin a cat. Try it off. As a woman, like go, Hey, do your 4 to 5 days a week, right? Lifting, but like, why don't you go just super heavy?
23:02Speaker 5worry like people, the old adage of, Hey, if I lift heavy weight and low reps, just get huge,
23:09Speaker 5Versus high reps, low weight, I'm going to get shredded. That's not really true. Like there is a huge, I mean, it depends on rest time and food intake, etcetera. But like, I frankly like the heavy, heavy, heavy, but with
23:21Speaker 5very minimal rest, right? You're not gonna be able to lift a whole bunch of weights on set 3. You know, your weight's gonna dramatically go down, but your body's gonna get beat is gonna get shredded and beat up. That's what you're looking for. Yeah. You'll drip sweat. You'll do that.
23:35Speaker 5That's the name again. Body's working. And he's right. Like this is again, bio evolutionarily,
23:41Speaker 5like we get really good. Our human body is really good at taking the path of least resistance. Okay. And getting really good at doing something so it can use the very least amount of energy possible. So if you're in the same exercise routine, it has figured that out. And it's learned how to do that
24:02Speaker 5So you need, you need to change it and trick it. This is why people who are distance runners and just do cardio is like not an effective way to burn fat. That's your body's, 1st of all, it just gets really used to it. You don't get sore anymore. Your muscles get used to it and it doesn't,
24:32Speaker 4somewhere in that 1 to 2 IU range, I'm still in the gym 4 to 5 days a week and looking for general overall health and in a much bigger way, workout recovery,
24:59Speaker 4Would Serm or Tessa be worth taking in trying to get my old and slow pituitary to produce what little extra it can? Or would you recommend just going to the HGH from a cost to value type perspective?
25:23Speaker 4when everything else goes through. I'm thinking I should maybe get tests dialed in 1st before starting the others.
26:27Speaker 5That would be the best. So that's what I would do for sure. I just don't think that you're dude, you're just of the age, like classic of the age of that. Need to get the help and get the best help financially.
26:38Speaker 5You're looking at, so I guess here's the thing, just whatever you're looking at kit wise, they all come in kits in a different like total number of IUs. Usually it's about a,
26:47Speaker 5usually it is a kit with 10 vials. Okay? And then each vial, so I'm familiar with a 100 IU kits, 150,
26:55Speaker 5200, 2 40 IU kits. Okay? So the difference is in the 100 IU kit, 10 vials of 10 IUs in a vial. 150, 10, 10 vials of 15 IUs,
27:10Speaker 5Right? So you'll know, Hey, you just do the math on it. Like that's up to you and your budgeting. Cause he said, Hey, I want a value perspective. But
27:18Speaker 5if I'm going say, start with 2 IUs a day, if you get a 100 kit that will last you 50 days.
27:26Speaker 5All right. There's your math, right? If you get a 200 IU kit and you do 2 IUs a day, it's going to last you 100 days. So
27:33Speaker 5you just be the judge, but I think that that's going to be your way more effective route. Then the testosterone is going to do wonders for you. Holy shit. You're in for a surprise. The test is going to work real fast. HGH is going to work real slow. So
27:52Speaker 5to I use a day, run it after maybe a month. If you feel like bumping up, see, you know, bumping up to 3, use a day,
28:00Speaker 5the TRT, I guess it looks like you're getting it from your urologist. I would probably maybe listen to what they tell you, but
28:14Speaker 5It'd be interesting to see but like you're at a where did eat healthy, keep doing cardio because you don't want your bad cholesterol to get elevated.
28:29Speaker 5but still based on, I don't know your blood, but for a normal person, I'd say start with 200 mg a week.
28:37Speaker 4See how you feel for a month. It's going to take a few weeks before you really feel it. But yeah, we'll obviously nail that. H here's 1 thing that a couple of things that people
28:53Speaker 4obviously that's subjective, but if you compare it to like a Tesamorelin or whatnot, in my opinion, it's cheaper because it's a big kit and it lasts for a long time. So if you break out the math, it's really about the same. Yeah. It really is. You take it a long time and, Tesamorelin would last, what is it, last 3 weeks? I don't know if I'm Yeah. I'll do some math by the time you're done talking to the HGH really isn't that expensive. It really isn't when you break the math down. Like you said, I use
29:21Speaker 4I'm worried about the cancer side. I think I've said this before, but if you didn't hear me, let me say it again. I think you should worry more about Doritos and chips and all the crap seed oil foods a lot more than you should worry about HGH.
29:33Speaker 4The pros are going to highly outweigh the cons and anything like that. 2, I use as a low dose,
29:40Speaker 4So keep that up. The cost is not what people say. The doe, the cancer stuff is just, I don't think people, people that, that I don't know where that came from so long ago, but I don't think it should be a worry at 2 IUs around that Mark.
29:54Speaker 4But other than that, you're going to be changing your life here in a few weeks, man. You're going to be feeling great. The
29:59Speaker 4HGH is going to take a long play. It's going take about 6 months, but you will notice that it's easier to burn fat
30:07Speaker 52 are great, man. HGH and TRT, man. They're perfect together. Really on the doing the math. So I just took 100
30:17Speaker 5okay, for 100 IU kit. That will last you 50 days. So 50 days for 4 50. Then let's take Tesa Ipah blend, okay, 5 mg, 5 mg, and let's set a price tag of a $100.
30:36Speaker 5so a $100 and let's go with 0.5 a milligram a day. Okay. Of each of them. That means that bottle lasts you 10 days. Okay. And the bottle costs you a $100.
30:56Speaker 5you need to plug some real world numbers in, but those are pretty easy. Those are pretty close. Think it's even more than a $100. There you go. And frankly, that 0.5 of a milligram, nothing. You're a grown man. I think that you really want to do a full milligram. Therefore that bottle lasts you 5 days. Therefore that bill is 1,003
31:13Speaker 5Yeah. There you go. There you go. And we both said HGH. There you go buddy. There you go. That helps man. But good stuff. Keep us Hey warriors. 1st of all, I got to say that how you 2 are doing God's work. Thank you. And changing the world for the better.
31:27Speaker 5I'm 21 year old male. I played, sports all my life and have been in the gym since I was 13. I have a strict workout schedule and fast daily 11 to 7, then a full 24 hour fast on Sunday. You're a disciplined person.
31:53Speaker 5We're going have to, yeah. I did the math. Oh, you did. Okay. Good. Thank you. Was kind of curious. So what's that equal? So what was his test in nanograms per 4 38 nanograms per deciliter. So that, so you're either from Canada, Australia, like UK. So
32:19Speaker 5I really want to bump it up. I'm really concerned about my fertility as I haven't had kids yet. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks again for all you guys Do stay hard.
32:41Speaker 4nanograms per deciliter in The United States. That is really low free testosterone. That means you're tired and you don't have less low, you have low sex drive.
32:53Speaker 4Wow. 21. That is definitely loads. Definitely scares me more and more seeing these numbers. Men are not supposed to be living like that,
33:11Speaker 4you don't want to feel like shit and you work out a lot and you fast a lot and you do that. That's great.
33:27Speaker 4So it can be done. You're young though. So being it on it in a very, very long time, I mean, Will and I've worked with people that are on a long time too, but man, 21 is my
33:37Speaker 4only real concern is you are so freaking young. But again, I would go, I try to go off really how I feel. And you probably just feel like shit dude. And that you're, you're healthy. You like to lift.
33:53Speaker 4So you want to feel good, man. I'm gonna go out there and say, would probably get on TRT knowing
34:02Speaker 4I would probably recommend you run it at 1000 IUs Monday, Wednesday, Friday, right out the gate, because that will keep your fertility
34:10Speaker 4run. And even if you don't have a baby, generally speaking, you can kind of get away with it by staying fertile at 500 microgram or 500 IU, I mean, for HCG.
34:20Speaker 4But you being so young man and you want to make sure you keep that fertility out to go with 1000. Yeah. Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
34:28Speaker 5That's my, that's my take. It's a rough 1 because you're so young. Here's the deal. I agree. Like you're 21. That's too young. I think that I do. I think that the your so overtraining,
34:38Speaker 5You can absolutely hurt a man's testosterone. All right. So there might, you gotta look at your lifestyle. Would just, let's look at lifestyle 1st. Would, and your nutrient intake, right? The fact that you are fasting a lot and,
34:50Speaker 5and dieting hard, I would actually kind of make sure that you're eating enough, right?
35:08Speaker 5I would fast less right now. I'd try to go to some different eating habits. Okay. Like go to the, go to the,
35:28Speaker 5Sure that your sleep is dialed in because JD will tell you like he's had a little trouble sleeping
35:35Speaker 5So you might be having that issue. And if you're having that issue, then yes, that is absolutely going to hurt your test levels. And
36:00Speaker 5I would honestly, before I would jump on tests, I would run some, I would run like 25 mgs of clomiphene daily, even HCG by itself. Who knows like that? You just, it sounds like you're in a 20, 21.
36:11Speaker 4You just need a little, like, I think just a little kickstart and you never know what's going to happen. So that's what I would do 1st. Yeah, I think that if you dig a little deeper, maybe there's some stuff behind the scenes too. Like, well, like I said, I'm going to be telling you, I what's
36:24Speaker 4worked for me has worked for a very long time until it doesn't. And that's kind of what's been going on where, I mean, I've been on the carnivore diet for 5 years and I've loved it. There's never been a problem. I've been fasting for 10.
36:36Speaker 4But as Will said in the last, I don't know, no, 4 to 5 months, give or take, I sleep like shit. I fall asleep on a dime at 9 and then I wake up at like anywhere from 12 to 2 wide awake, can't go back to sleep. It sucks. I'm it's it compounds and gets to the point where like,
36:57Speaker 4researched the hell out of it to try to figure out what the hell it was. I mean, I pulled all the peptides out. I've done so much lately to try to figure this son of bitch out. And here's what I've come up with and it kind of sounds logical with a lot of research in it. I might not be getting enough nutrients either, which sounds weird. I've fasted for so long and I've lived on these nutrients for a long time, the amount that I eat, but a lot of times I eat 1 time a day and
37:21Speaker 4I don't think that that's it is enough. That's why I'm going to the 5 meals. I'm going to shock the hell out of my system. I'm going to see if it helps me sleep.
37:35Speaker 4some different stuff and just research the hell out of it. And then try this, try that, try that, And just figure it out sometimes for yourself to where, you know, we're all science project and that's 1 thing that Will and I are. We will dig into it and try different things to see what works until it doesn't. Like I said, it sucks because like, I'm very like robotic and now
38:00Speaker 5Here we are. 5 meals a day now. But you gotta do something, dude. It sounds like, yeah, your life isn't right, but the the brain fog the brain fog and low energy and and, like, that's not good. So let's do some, make some changes. Yeah. And, and kind of track those changes and just listen to your body.
38:16Speaker 5Okay. Cause you got a lot of changes that could happen. Yep. You're young man. You're resilient. Yeah, absolutely.
38:27Speaker 4up guys? Absolutely love the podcast and the new school community. We forgot to talk about that. You're the reason my wife finally agreed to let me start TRT. Love it. 43 year old total test was $3.35.
38:38Speaker 4Woah. Fried says 21 and currently in week 3. We both use low dose Reta with great results. I just started Tessa 0.5 mg 7
39:10Speaker 4slowly working on adding more peptides as a budget allows. Thank you for the feedback. God bless.
39:20Speaker 5yeah, good for her. And I guess good for us for making you, hopefully you'll start for the TRT thing. That's awesome. Yeah. She should let you do it. Good for her. But, and you're still, I mean, heck, you're, you said you're 3 weeks in and your total test is currently 3 35
39:35Speaker 5free test 21. You got a ways to go. Right? And it's just, just started. I mean, I don't, I'm scared to know what it was when you started.
39:52Speaker 5good. Keep going, man. Week 3, you're just about feeling the bill, just about feeling the test.
40:06Speaker 5Okay. So here's the thing. I would say that as a man, I think you can increase your Ipamorelin,
40:13Speaker 5to a mg and then, you know, I don't know. I could, you could experiment getting up to 1 MIG of Ipra also instead of 0.25. I think for your wife starting it since you have, well,
40:23Speaker 5the wife should do the Tessa Ipra and if you have them separate for women, it's kind of a good idea to go a little bit lower on the IpA because that's
40:36Speaker 5if you're going to have side effects, a lot of it is water retention and women definitely do not like when you need water retention. Okay? Because it just makes you look plump, more plump. So if your
40:56Speaker 5your wife, I'd say, let's start her. If you're doing them as separates, maybe shit. Point,
41:33Speaker 00 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes.
41:55Speaker 5If it gets water retention from there, you're gonna have to get it in 2 separate, so Tesamorelin bottle and an Ipamorelin bottle and start the Ipamorelin really low,
42:13Speaker 5Increased ability to add muscle, but not, she's not going to turn into a bodybuilder. Okay. That's what women think that, but they're, she's not, she's not just pop these huge muscles out. Out.
42:24Speaker 5Will burn fat faster. Her metabolism will go up or her, and it will attack visceral fat in her abdominal
42:33Speaker 5Like over time. So these are the cool thing here is like over time, Hey, the wrinkles starting to kind of go away, right? Your skin
42:48Speaker 5Even on the secretagogs, but in secretagogs, it's still kind of a cycle break, cycle break. Whereas if it's if we're talking just real HGH, it's it's just
42:59Speaker 5And watch yourself, you know, make sure your blood sugar is not getting too high and etcetera.
43:04Speaker 5but the longer you're on way better, better it goes. Yeah. But it looks like you guys are on the right path. I think that have
43:12Speaker 4I wouldn't be worried 1 little bit about her doing it. Was too less. For women, it goes a long way. A little bit goes a long way. So we did, let me just pick up on what they said. We do. We meant to say that in the beginning. We do have a new school
43:25Speaker 4warrior platform, which has been great. It's grown a little bit quicker than we were even expecting.
43:35Speaker 4You don't know what that is, it's a platform that we've built. We built it. So people are going on there. They are posting stuff.
43:42Speaker 4Are chiming in answering questions. It's not just us. We don't even have the time to answer all the questions on there, but the whole objective was to bring people off of social media where they just it's heavily, heavily,
43:53Speaker 4heavily, heavily, heavily watched. I was dinged again for post a year ago. It's crazy.
43:58Speaker 4It's just, that's just old. Everybody's sick of that, I think. So you're able to talk freely and everybody supports each other. It's amazing. It's done better than we expected. So Warrior
44:20Speaker 4help with your wife kind of open your eyes to the fact that testosterone is a good thing.
44:25Speaker 4There's so many men now, things are starting to change and so many people are coming around, not even just for men,
44:31Speaker 4women are starting to take testosterone and it's changing their lives just like men. So I'm glad that that big wall of just,
44:48Speaker 4lot longer than we've had this podcast. Let me tell you that. And it's funny how some guys still go, don't tell my wife or don't tell anybody I'm with testosterone.
44:55Speaker 4Dude, this is a good thing. So anyways, we're glad that we were helped with that. I'm going to go a little bit different. I'm going to say for your bride,
45:07Speaker 4just a 1 make, I think would do wonders for her. 1 make of Tessa at night. It'll burn that little belly fat. If she's got a little pooch there, it really focuses on that. And,
45:18Speaker 5I would start there. So that's my recommendation. A Tesa for women. That's good. Good idea. Actually not a bad, not a bad suggestion. Hope that helps. All right.
45:38Speaker 5don't mean to make fun of you. It's just, we don't say it like that. But so my mom, 48, myself,
46:13Speaker 5days on and 2 days off, or should I go every day? Every day it needs to be done in a very consistent basis. The only reason you go 5 on 2 off is to save money.
46:51Speaker 5strength trained and focused on body recomp and always eaten at 100% on point. She's also been on HRT gel
47:10Speaker 5She's also just started BPC TB. The Reta has exceeded her expectations on how she's been feeling.
47:17Speaker 5On, my mom has been looking into MOTS-3C and the additional benefits of that to support her menopause. In general, will MOTS-3C Be a good addition to her to add her to her stack to support para menopause symptoms. We both are fans of your podcasts. Appreciate all the information as it has helped us guide through with our peptide journey.
47:34Speaker 5Damn. Good job. Good. Thank you for the message. And those were like, I mean, look, those are real questions.
47:52Speaker 5attacking visceral fat and seeing just generally kind of seeing results. Now visceral fat is inside you. You don't see that. But I'd say about 3 to 6 weeks.
48:16Speaker 5It's not going to work like that. It just, these are peptides. These need to be done consistently for a longer time. I'd say 3 to 4 months, really.
48:36Speaker 5think so. She's already doing Retatrutide. I'm just wondering, you said still feels like shit on the gel.
48:41Speaker 5I never said, never heard that you said she started to feel like shit. So I don't really know why she's feeling like shit.
48:49Speaker 5Okay. That's, I guess that is 1 question I don't know. I don't, I do think the MOTS-3C cannot hurt. It can increase her like metabolic flexibility.
48:57Speaker 5Sounds like she trains a lot and has been doing that forever. And, and, and people who have trained for a long time have really kind of beaten down their body. The way,
49:10Speaker 5there may be some kind of metabolic damage for a lot of, you know, some, some big like weight loss or muscle gain periods.
49:29Speaker 4Yeah. But different things. Can give you some different ideas. Yeah. We're big in Australia. We love, we appreciate you guys. You guys are all listening out there. We get to hear from them all the time. Appreciate that. So yeah, I think that, your mom, your mom should,
49:47Speaker 4That stuff that's this stuff sucks, man. Do you know what I mean? Like nobody likes that stuff. It don't even really work.
49:53Speaker 4Don't know how much you're really getting the gel just sucks. Skit on TRT. That's probably a fix right there. She'll feel great in a couple of weeks to do that when it comes to premenopause.
50:05Speaker 4easiest way for anybody is just to attack the symptoms. What are some of the symptoms like for a lack of a way to better way to say it, you know, dryness down below. So you got PT-one hundred 41 would help down there. Skin
50:25Speaker 4like cellular energy. I mean, there's a reason why all the movie stars take NAD and HGH because they freaking work. Anti ages are amazing and especially for perimenopause.
50:36Speaker 4The MOTS-1C will be great. You can add in, we'll know this SS-thirty 1 on top of that would light those 2 on fire.
51:04Speaker 4face cream out there, but that'll help in regards to some of that stuff and aging and things like that.
51:10Speaker 4That's a bunch to throw at you. But again, just see what the problem is and how you feel. And there's usually a peptide to fix that. So
51:19Speaker 4a permitted pause stack that we'd put together that I just kind of ran through quickly, but that'll help.
51:26Speaker 4A TRT, that's the TRT. Get on some TRT. Even if it's the pellets, I don't know if you guys have that out in Australia. A lot of people, some people like them, some people don't. They're easy for women because they can kind of control it a little bit better, but it's a tiny little bit.
51:39Speaker 5But yeah, get rid of the gel. I think that you should, like NAD is a great suggestion. I think that a few others peptides
51:49Speaker 5never know. Like we talked about with the MOTS-1C, like you just might, she might do NAD and just might go, boom, changes her life because
52:06Speaker 5I don't know. I like it and a lot of people love that stuff. Probably 7 minute pause is probably the best. Yeah.
52:15Speaker 4Love the show guys. You guys do awesome at breaking down what has worked for you. My question is I started using NAD plus and have heard that I needed to start my cycle with a 7 day loading cycle of a 100
52:36Speaker 4and a little off. On the 7th day, went in for my quarterly blood test for my testosterone
52:58Speaker 4in 1 mg of the MOTS- C every morning. Also, the NAD was definitely what made me feel off. I since cut down our back to 25
53:15Speaker 5All right. I can get you this 1, dude. This is obvious. Hell yeah. That was way too much to start. 100
53:23Speaker 5like a lot and daily is a lot too. So I, so I really, I think that about like 25, I think 25 to 50 mg,
53:39Speaker 5Migs to start off, dude. I'm surprised that, yeah, of course, dude, you didn't get like just the frozen and tingly, like overwhelming
54:17Speaker 5So there's that, dude. Your Cmax and Selank, I could you could bump those up a bit or the Cmax at least. Yeah. You said 300 mgs of each. I'd maybe, oh, 300 mgs of each and 1 to make 1
54:32Speaker 5The C MAX C Lank, you could go to 500 mgs, maybe even 7 50, but I think that too is a more of as a diminishing returns and more and more you do have that isn't necessarily better.
54:47Speaker 5Drop her down. Yeah. A 100. Wow. That's a lot. I've done a lot of NAD and I've never done that much. I mean, I think he nailed it. I want to be super redundant.
54:57Speaker 55 to 50. That's like, I do it daily. I'm not doing it right now. When I do it, I take kind of use it as a coffee around 02:00. Good friend of ours suggested it and it worked great. And I would do 50.
55:08Speaker 5So it worked for me, but I'd been doing it for a while before I did that. So try that maybe, maybe like Will said either 3 days a week at 25 or daily. I think you could get away with it because you were doing a shit ton in the beginning. Hundreds a lot.
55:21Speaker 4Yeah. And then move your way up. Like you said, you're going to waste it, you know, you're gonna waste it. So don't waste it. Just 20 5 to 50 golden.
55:29Speaker 5That's a golden ticket. It there. All right. So I'm currently on 15 mg of tirzepatide. Okay. This is like the
55:36Speaker 5max dose. I want to switch to Reta as you should. We, would you guys do it? So I'm scared to regain the weight, but I'm currently on a plateau. I work out 3 days a week and I'm currently on 100
56:05Speaker 5Could it be that I'm just gaining muscle and that's why my numbers are flat going up? I went from benching 80 pounds to 150
56:23Speaker 5and have more definition, but still got a belly. Is Reta right for me or is there a different stack you would recommend? Thanks from South Florida. Alright. So
56:45Speaker 5my guess is that you are losing weight. You just have some water retention going down like with maybe the CGC IPA and testosterone,
57:05Speaker 5And because of just because of that strength gain, I have to think that you're putting muscle on. Like, duh. Right?
57:21Speaker 5that you have probably burnt a lot of fat and gained a lot of muscle. It's the only thing I can deduce,
57:29Speaker 5Because muscle is hard to to get and you lost 3 pounds shit where we know you've gained some muscle.
57:35Speaker 5So I don't know. I have to think that maybe you got some water retention going on that is like hiding your
57:44Speaker 5I would lower, I would take some REMDAX, see if that's the case. Are you experiencing any other estrogen, estrogenic side effects? Any, any acne on your shoulders, dotted out nipple sensitivity and water retention?
57:59Speaker 5maybe 3 days a week, like a 1 pill Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 1 mg. See if it does anything.
58:38Speaker 4Yeah. So we're fully over to the Reta. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. Makes sense. That's that it's a tough 1. Mean, there's an exact sign. That's
58:46Speaker 4a rough 1. We've been, we come across it a lot. There's different ways that we've tried to help people. And I don't think there's an exact way so that worked So try that.
59:17Speaker 5also just takes time, bro. Like how old are you? How long did it take you to build that belly? Right? I bet it took longer than 4 months. Yeah. Took a while. It just takes some time, dude. That's the last thing to go is your stomach. Right? Yeah. We all get lean from toes and 4 and tops ahead 1st.
59:32Speaker 5As we get leaner and better shape, right? Those are the things that start leaning out. Right? What's the last to go is basically your lower
59:38Speaker 5stomach and your love handles. Last and hardest thing. People are like, well, but my shoulders are looking lean. Yes. So are my calves. Yep.
59:46Speaker 4Because those get lean 1st. When we were, when I working with people like on diet mainly,
59:51Speaker 4a lot of people would be not losing weight because they'd get on the scale. They're so addicted to the damn scale,
59:57Speaker 4but I would tell them send me a picture, which I did every Friday, and then I would send that, I would do a side by side and send it to him. Now I would say, do you look different? Because you do to me. And you lose it in your belt buckle sometimes 1st. Like you didn't gain all this weight at 1 time. It's not, you know, we want, we're in humans are instant gratification.
1:00:17Speaker 4Right? It just, it is what it is, but go just kind of stay on course to what you're doing. Now you can do some add ons to kind of expedite some of this, you know, as you do it, you can add on, you know, HGH,
1:00:27Speaker 4like we said, that will start to burn that belly fat too and like kind of a perpetuity type deal,
1:00:43Speaker 4any of the fat burners on top of what you're doing would do well. And there's a lot of AOD, 5 minute 1 MQ, SLU-PP-three 32.
1:00:51Speaker 4Those are just 2, you could do like L Carnitine and there's tons of them. So you could add a little bit on there if you want to inject less, just get the sublingual SLU and those are great. I love them. That. Yeah.
1:01:14Speaker 5we do think it is water retention, maybe try to like slowly lower your, your security dogs and then slowly increase them. You just might see something's going on.
1:01:26Speaker 5you had to have lost, you had to have burned fat and gain a lot of muscle. All right.
1:01:30Speaker 4Last 1. You're up. I'm up. All right. Gentlemen, love the show. Loving the new platform. Awesome. Appreciate all that you are, you and your team do. My question is
1:02:07Speaker 4over, I'm not overdoing it. Would love to get to a point where the Adderall is only used for high stakes days at work as needed,
1:02:16Speaker 4but minimally on the other days. Thanks. That's a good question. We don't have that. That's legit question.
1:02:36Speaker 5So what is Adderall? It's a stimulant. Okay. So what do we know about stimulants? It's
1:02:42Speaker 5basically it's tightening up all your blood vessels, so blood is not flowing as well. You feel this, like,
1:02:49Speaker 5of tightened shrubble up kind of feeling. It's like when you take way too much pre workout.
1:02:55Speaker 5it's not allowing as much blood flow to go around. I almost think the biggest worry is it puts you in this. It's gonna increase your your heart rate. It just makes you age faster and puts you in this kind of a more like on edge stressful state.
1:03:36Speaker 5making you age a whole lot more? Now I would try modafinil instead of Adderall. I think we don't want to be on Adderall. Right? It is a
1:03:56Speaker 5But if you do, good for you, but maybe even more reason to not wanna not do it because you might like it too much. But modafinil is a good replacer so is maybe Semax.
1:04:16Speaker 5I don't think it's that bad, but I think you're a 100% right with trying to get rid of it, get it off of you,
1:04:23Speaker 5and do less and less. And I do think it's impeding, you know, results a little bit, mostly in the recovery end
1:04:30Speaker 5because of less blood flow. So like, you know, when people get pre workouts and they get a pre workout that's
1:04:38Speaker 5like, sorry guys, it's just a marketing deal because those counteract each other. Right? The high stim is gonna re is gonna constrict blood vessels. The high pump is gonna try and open them. So if you just blast this thing full of both,
1:04:55Speaker 5I don't know. This is an extra little bit of info, but that's yeah. What you got? All
1:05:00Speaker 4right. I'm going to go a little bit different. I'm going to I'm big on abstinence on that stuff, man. I'm obviously sober and I've been through a lot of stiff shit, as you say.
1:05:09Speaker 4I think we could really start to reboot our mind once we do some things that can replace that, which is like meditation,
1:05:22Speaker 4You're probably thinking you need the Adderall, right? Whether you do or you don't, you do think that and
1:05:27Speaker 4you can break the cycle and you can replace what you think that you need with other things that are a lot more healthy.
1:05:38Speaker 4Peptides are going to be great. Do I think it's hindering you? Yeah, I think so. I think any type of narcotic or like alcohol is going to not let those shine as well. You're spending a lot of money. Why don't you get the best bang for your buck?
1:05:51Speaker 4And why don't you try this? Why don't you try to get off at or off? You can't. You might need to. Let's just like get really to the jugular. But again,
1:06:21Speaker 4I'm under the belief that God knows what he's doing, and I don't think any of us necessarily need narcotics in any form. Now, there will be some exceptions, of course, schizophrenic
1:06:35Speaker 4there's exceptions to every rule, but that's my take, man. We're sober. We talk about it all the time. I'm just a huge fan of abstinence in all forms,
1:06:44Speaker 4and you can replace that drug with something that will be a lot better. If you have any more questions, use the DM. We'd love to talk to you. Yeah. Everybody else check out the school app. It's K O 0 L. I think that we'll put a
1:07:04Speaker 4rallying around each other, lifting each other. There's been a couple of dickheads on there. We boot them off. We're very clear. There's no marketing of it. Our platform is you're not going to come and market anything. We
1:07:14Speaker 4answer questions, you give your experience and we, it's just, there's strength in numbers types and you'll enjoy it. Plus we have all the dosage protocols on there.
1:07:39Speaker 5and that are pretty in-depth that nobody else is putting out there. So yeah, a lot of good resources out there. Stuff.
1:07:45Speaker 4Next week, I don't know. We haven't decided what we're gonna do for the pep 10 of the week. We record that on Friday,