Peptide Q&A #35 – Female Fat Loss Protocols GHK-CU Injection Reactions, HGH vs Tesamorelin Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-35-female-fat-loss-protocols-ghk-cu-injection-reactions-hgh-vs-tesam/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade Electrolytes, 0:03 Speaker 0: 0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes. 0:15 Speaker 3: I get so many headaches every month. 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Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. 1:07 Speaker 2: Why wait? Ask your doctor. Visit botoxchronicmigraine.com 1:11 Speaker 2: or call 18044 1:14 Speaker 2: to learn more. 1:24 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. I am your host, JD Denham. Across the way, mister William T. What 1:33 Speaker 4: up? What's going on, dude? Everybody, I read the comments. I know you probably read some, but 1:38 Speaker 4: everybody is wondering how it went with your father. Oh, that's it. Really? Let's 1:43 Speaker 4: everybody was giving you congratulations 1:45 Speaker 5: and good luck. So how'd it go? It went very well. I thought that I wasn't gonna be nervous. Told you. 1:51 Speaker 5: But I was. Right? Right. I was early and beat him to dinner. Folks, I tend to be late sometimes. He does. 2:00 Speaker 5: So, 2:00 Speaker 5: I was there 15 minutes early, and it was good. We started with just kind of some small talk and then I messaged, okay, like, let's address the elephant in the room. Actually, he was funny. He was, he's like, 2:11 Speaker 5: is 2:12 Speaker 5: she pregnant? Oh, 2:14 Speaker 1: yeah. 2:15 Speaker 5: I was like, no, dude. No. No. Legitimately, not that I know. He didn't have an idea? No. And then he then he was like, okay. He's like, I thought it was gonna be 1 of 2 things. Right? Either that or both. 2:26 Speaker 5: But I said no. And then, you know, I said, I'm let's just get it out of the way. So I asked him, 2:32 Speaker 5: I love your daughter and, and you know, I'm asking you for her hand in marriage, 2:37 Speaker 5: please. 2:38 Speaker 5: And he was good. He was cool. He's like, dude, of course. Yes. He's like, you're the only guy that she's ever dated that isn't a douchebag. 2:46 Speaker 1: That's 2:47 Speaker 1: a win. That's a That's a win. Yeah. 2:50 Speaker 5: And he's not wrong. Like, there are unfortunately, 2:53 Speaker 5: like, not that I know who she dated, but just, man, from dating different girls and I hear some different, like, horror stories about what guys do 3:01 Speaker 5: when they break up. Right? Like, Jesus, man. Isn't it? Quit. Yeah. Like quit 3:07 Speaker 5: being such pussies about things. Like, handle your business. So what? There's other girls in like, had a girlfriend who worked at Nordstrom and the boyfriend, 3:15 Speaker 5: they broke up 3:17 Speaker 5: and he immediately went and took all of the naked pictures that she had sent him. No. Because like that's what people do. Emailed 3:24 Speaker 5: them all to her boss. Oh, dude, bro. Bad form, dude. Bad form, bro. Just, just, 3 just jealous, you know? And 3:33 Speaker 5: that's, and I've had, I think I even have some couple other worse stories just from other girls. Like, this is like a constant. 3:38 Speaker 5: Oh dude. Jealousy is the worst, worst ever. Oh my gosh. Like, there's jealousy in anything. I'm he boards over. Yeah. Over that, dude. Not over that stuff. So that's good. Anyway, so back to the back to yeah. He's like, you're year. I would be happy. I was nervous. It's a big deal. I was nervous. It was it is a big deal. And the funny thing actually, the more I talked to him, yeah, the more I kind of realized that this is a big deal. Oh yeah. That's sacred, man. I wish more people treated it that way. It was funny. I, when I got married, 4:05 Speaker 4: I was with my 1st wife, I was so young, so probably not then, but with Alyssa, I was so just aware of those vowels. I said them and I truly like was like thinking through the just depth 4:17 Speaker 4: of those as you say them. They're very deep when you really like think about them because people just say them and don't really think they don't really think so. Death do you part, obviously, is the most common known 1 is you dude, you know? Love you and like, yes, sickness and health. I 4:33 Speaker 5: guess it did hit me a bit when I'm saying, you know, I'm realizing like, Hey, 4:38 Speaker 5: this man has 4:40 Speaker 5: raised his daughter and his other daughter has a little baby, right? And his is the protector and responsible person, right, for his whole life. 4:48 Speaker 5: Basically I'm like asking 4:50 Speaker 5: to just, 4:52 Speaker 4: he's thought of you for years, bro, because I have a daughter and I always thought of who my daughter would and, you know, not to put on a blast. Love him. He's a great guy, but he didn't ask for my hand. I was a little bit, my wife goes, 5:04 Speaker 4: if the only you're the 1 person on the earth that like, he should know that like, you're so like that. I'm like, he's young though. I didn't do that for my 1st wife. So I was 5:13 Speaker 4: young. You would have thought your daughter would have told him. Yeah, I don't know, man, but he's a kid. Works for sometimes. As 5:21 Speaker 4: a father, all you care about is treat my daughter well. 5:24 Speaker 4: And that's pretty much it. It's a really low bar to have. Don't be a dick and don't be a treater before you dismiss and you'll be good. You know mean? So have a good worth ethic ethic. You'll be chilling. That's funny. Don't like low bar, right? Well, speaking of, so 5:39 Speaker 5: So River back home at home, right, has like, was kind of being a dick and got his electronics taken, which is like a daily thing basically. Torture for you. And 5:49 Speaker 5: then he's like, oh, hey, have I been have I been good? Do I earn them back? And I was like, alright, look, dude. So just 5:55 Speaker 5: not being a dick is not good enough. Right? Like, 6:00 Speaker 5: just because you sat quietly. Yeah. Right? And like, we're looking for proactive action. Right? Like, to earn something, you don't have to just 6:08 Speaker 5: like, the 6:09 Speaker 5: bar is not that low where you don't have to just not be an asshole. Yeah. And that's earning it. Right? You need to we expect you to go willingly feed the cat, help somebody, 6:19 Speaker 5: do some other things that are proactive that slightly inconvenience you. 6:23 Speaker 5: That's what earning something looks like. Right. It's rough. It is rough. It's rough. It's rough. 6:29 Speaker 5: So yes. I don't know. So we're still working on that. Mean, but hell, you know, in AA, right? We have people grown as men 6:36 Speaker 5: that sell like they've been destroying their family for years, right. Or their girlfriend or whatever. And then they get sober. They go to detox. 6:44 Speaker 5: They've been sober for 10 days. 6:46 Speaker 5: Didn't come back. Like, we should get a party. Like everything's look how good. Look how awesome I am. 6:53 Speaker 4: She won't let me see the kids. Yeah. What the fuck? It's been 30 You 6:57 Speaker 5: are now just not destroying things. Like that is not a, that's not, you don't get a party for being like a normal person. 7:05 Speaker 5: Entitlement is a thing. Yeah. You need and this and this type of stuff in in that situation, it's like, bro, it's time. Like, you just gotta show consistency in being sober and not being a dick, like, for time. It can't I don't care. You can't you can't work really, really hard and do a bunch of things. This just needs to be consistent 7:23 Speaker 5: for time. 100%. 7:25 Speaker 5: So, 7:26 Speaker 4: yeah, I didn't know. That's good, man. I when I sat down with my 7:29 Speaker 4: father-in-law, which I didn't know him that well at the time, 7:33 Speaker 4: he said to me something that I still give him a shit for. He said, There's no take backs. 7:38 Speaker 4: So I thought that was funny. I didn't know him enough to know if he was joking or not, but still to this day, don't think he was. But anyways, I got what he meant, I think, very quickly because my wife is very accident prone. She had like 6 flat tires, I think the 1st year and I'm like, I know what you mean now. No take backs. Oh, that's hilarious. So he was really getting shit all the time. 7:59 Speaker 4: Needs a lot of taken care of. You know, she's a sweetheart, but man, she's, she does some funny stuff. Love you, man. Know you're listening. Yeah. What else did he say? I mean, 8:10 Speaker 5: he was good. Right? And he said, he's like, you know, if I cry, it's not just, I mean, he's like, well, whatever you call me a fag. I don't know. That's I got 2 daughters that I love 8:19 Speaker 5: and it's important. 8:22 Speaker 5: So, but I am more than happy. 8:24 Speaker 5: To have you 8:25 Speaker 5: in the family. 8:26 Speaker 5: Man. It's a welcome family. And then he asked about like, Hey, well, what are you guys doing for, for the wedding? Was like, well, I haven't even yet asked her. Just asked you 1st. He said, are you going to ask her mom, take her mom out to lunch? I probably shouldn't. And I think after that I will. And he was like, he's like, cause you don't really have to. It's okay. They kind of, you know, they're divorced and don't, they coexist well, but there's still some jabs. It'll play well. There's always those. 8:51 Speaker 5: Still have those once in a while for 20 years. And what else? Oh yeah. The wedding too is like, he's like, what are you going to do for the wedding? You're not going to like suit and tie 8:59 Speaker 5: tuxedo it, are you? I was like, my kind of guy. 9:03 Speaker 5: No, no, we don't want to. And I mean, I was like, you know, Ali, I 9:07 Speaker 5: think we probably have our shoes off for the wedding somewhere, somewhere on a beach with just 9:12 Speaker 5: small family, if any sense. But that's wrong. 9:15 Speaker 5: Mean, shit, it's a big deal and it's, guess, for us. So let's make it just comfortable and be the way that we roll. Do that. So 9:24 Speaker 5: all in all, it went well and 9:26 Speaker 5: it was hard. It was it was I mean, it's hard. It's hard, but I mean, 9:33 Speaker 5: I think if it's not as hard as 9:36 Speaker 5: making my amends, that was 1 of still 1 of the hardest, like, 9:39 Speaker 5: things I've ever done in my life. Yeah. But for a different story. Right? That 1, that was tough. Yeah. 9:46 Speaker 5: But it might be I'm excited. Yeah. So we're rolling. Big deal. If you guys didn't have long 9:51 Speaker 4: time, him getting hitched is a big deal. Yeah, it is. Yeah. It wasn't the type of guy that was going to, 9:58 Speaker 4: but she's a sweetheart. We love her. She's a good catch, man. You got to get 1. She is. Easy 10:03 Speaker 4: low maintenance is what we look for. My 10:06 Speaker 5: wife is very low maintenance. Like low maintenance, you know, like, 10:10 Speaker 5: low maintenance. You 10:13 Speaker 5: can have fun with them. Have 10:15 Speaker 5: to be attracted and the sex has to be there. Right? What do they say? You know, well, sex and money are the 2 biggest things that 10:22 Speaker 5: destroy relationships 10:24 Speaker 5: because those will get you through. 10:27 Speaker 5: Sex will get you through lean money times and 10:30 Speaker 5: money times may get you through sex time, but maybe not. So 10:34 Speaker 5: I'm, yes, we're both like just thoroughly attracted to each other and I'll still will be attracted to her even if she's 10:39 Speaker 4: like pregnant with 3 kids or something. You just, just, if you just be courteous, 10:44 Speaker 4: like we do little things that like a lot of people don't do, believe it not, if I'm at the store, babe, you need anything from the store. I know that sounds stupid, but like there's a lot of guys that don't do that. Like, here's a, this is common courtesy and just treated with respect and it's not that hard. 10:57 Speaker 4: I don't know. So it's possible to be with somebody for a long time. I'm still mad. I wouldn't mind coming up on 14 11:03 Speaker 4: years with Alyssa in August. That's crazy. That is crazy. Yeah. It's a long time, dude. We're still 11:10 Speaker 4: head over heels, man. She's a good 1 though. That's awesome. We got a good 1. We're both good 11:14 Speaker 4: stuff. All right. So we got the Q and A and these are some good ones. We scrolled through them separately like we have been doing and it's been working out well. So do the honors, man. You're always up. Hey 11:25 Speaker 4: man, you want start with Hey man? That's nuts. 11:28 Speaker 5: Yes, 11:30 Speaker 5: sure. Yes, please. Why don't I have some other document here? All right. Hey man. So number 1 folks. Hey man, not sure if this is a question for the show, but I'm having somewhat of a wild issue with my peptides. 11:40 Speaker 5: Seeing if, this has ever happened to you, I take morning and night peptides. I'm trying to narrow down which peptide is doing this, but at night when I inject SLU-, ISA, Ipi, Tessa, 11:49 Speaker 5: and GHK, GHK, 11:51 Speaker 5: about 10 minutes later, all my injection sites from the last couple days become, 11:56 Speaker 5: itchy. 11:58 Speaker 5: Like, swell, I don't know what that word is, but Yeah. And itchy. The 12:03 Speaker 5: the 12:04 Speaker 5: hindersion, the induration lasts sometimes to the next day. To make sure you understand, I mean, I'll give you an example. Let's say I inject in the morning, my morning peptides in my abdomen 12:14 Speaker 5: and in my legs at night, They are all affected after the night dose. My belly swells only after the night injection. And it's sometimes a site that I haven't injected in a couple of days. Sorry to be so long winded, but it's a wild situation. I really think it's GHK. I do too. 12:32 Speaker 5: So that is a crazy situation. How does my wife? 12:35 Speaker 5: Yeah. Bizarre. Was it. That was it. It's weird. Like she'll inject it and like she'll get those little rashy things all over where she's injected. I'm like, that is weird. Yep. Everybody's just very different and sensitive sometimes. She's sensitive. I think that it, for sure, it's the GHK- is. I think it's the GHK- For sure. That's the 1 that is, 12:52 Speaker 5: yeah, it's a histamine reaction, obviously. Right? And all, from all of the peptides in it, I mean, it might just be all of those sites that you injected just the GHK- Yeah. In the past. Right? I would I kind of think of that. Here's what I would do is I would I mean, that is normal. So I suppose, you know, we've people feel this. I would pull the GHK completely. See if it does it. See what happens. Right? Just pull it. Let it get out of your system. Keep doing everything else. It there's a potential, 13:18 Speaker 5: maybe the MOTS-3C, but, 13:21 Speaker 5: most likely the GHK. 13:23 Speaker 5: And then, hey, if you really if you wanna try and reintroduce the GHK, I would do it just like go let's start. Reintroduce it real small and not frequently. I don't know if you're doing it every day, but I wouldn't do it every day, maybe 3 days a week. But if you're gonna reintroduce very small. 13:38 Speaker 5: At what, let's see what at what point that it actually 13:42 Speaker 5: starts doing that again. Yeah. 13:44 Speaker 4: How much can you take? That's how I look at it where 13:47 Speaker 4: does it bug you? I mean, if it's just kind of itchy and if it's like super rashy and it's annoying, sure. Stop it. If you can deal with it, I mean, does it and 13:55 Speaker 4: hers goes away fairly quickly within an hour or so, but if it bugs you, then stop. But yeah, that's the best way to look at them and pull it out. If it stops, there you go. There's a culprit. Easy peasy. Good stuff. All right. I'm 62 year old, generally healthy male and generally healthy male. And I just finished the cycle of MOTS-seer. I started out with 500 micrograms, 14:16 Speaker 4: then titrated up to 1 mg per dose. 14:19 Speaker 4: At week 2, my allergies kicked into really high gear. I usually have allergies in the spring, 14:25 Speaker 4: but nothing. Fionos, 14:27 Speaker 4: Fionos, 14:28 Speaker 4: is that the proper leaf? 14:39 Speaker 5: But have you guys had any feedback regarding this? I've heard about it. Yes, again, and I did say kind of oops, MOTS-1C was a potential culprit. So there you go. 14:52 Speaker 5: It probably 14:53 Speaker 5: is the MOTS-3A, but I don't think that this 1 is a histamine reaction. 14:58 Speaker 5: This 1 sounds more like 15:01 Speaker 5: it is your mitochondria 15:03 Speaker 5: essentially being more sensitive 15:05 Speaker 5: and changing a little bit, 15:08 Speaker 5: And that is allowing you to be, to have these allergies affect you a bit more. Right? Because we're not seeing like, 15:17 Speaker 5: this is like his kind of a systemic allergy type reaction. 15:21 Speaker 5: It is not 15:22 Speaker 5: spot induced like the guy before, right? All those spots, that sounds like a histamine reaction. I think that this 1 is anamine 15:31 Speaker 5: histamine reaction to those specific peptides. 15:34 Speaker 5: This is changing your mitochondrial 15:36 Speaker 5: activity, right? And you're like modulating 15:39 Speaker 5: your immune signaling 15:41 Speaker 5: and allowing 15:43 Speaker 5: your body as a whole to 15:46 Speaker 5: get some more, 15:48 Speaker 5: allergies in 15:49 Speaker 5: negatively 15:50 Speaker 1: to react to this. 15:55 Speaker 4: So we had done a little research on this after we had Doctor. Scott on because it was something that popped up. I don't remember the exact conversation, but we were talking about how he 16:05 Speaker 4: took MOTS-1C and just was like energy off the charts where his wife was like, what's wrong with you? You know? And I didn't feel anything like that. So we were curious. I don't remember what the exact conversation was, but we dug into that because we were curious if 16:20 Speaker 4: you feel it more, does that mean you have a healthy mitochondria 16:23 Speaker 4: and vice versa? And we dug into that. What's that? And we basically figured it out where if you don't feel it, you basically, your mitochondria is healthy. If you feel it, it means it's really ramping it up. So it's like trying to repair it. And you're just like, Woah! 16:38 Speaker 4: So that's probably something going on with you is there. I mean, MOTS-3s going to affect the immune system a little bit too, so that can enhance that. My digging into this for you is 16:48 Speaker 4: would generally run its course fairly quickly if you wanted to. I mean, you were out the tail end, it sounds like of your cycle anyway, 16:54 Speaker 4: I bet if you kind of stayed on, it would kind of dwindle out as your body- Yeah, I would, I think that your 17:01 Speaker 5: body is supposed to normalize a little bit. Yeah. Okay. 17:04 Speaker 5: Whatever it does, it's poor. You got your tail end of your cycle and it didn't do So 17:09 Speaker 5: that's interesting, man. Everything is, everybody is different and reacts differently. So you're not like weird, but 17:16 Speaker 5: these things just happen. MOTS-1MQ May not, if the, if this is causing just too much discomfort, 17:22 Speaker 5: you may not be a good candidate for MOTS-1MQ That 17:26 Speaker 5: sucks because MOTS-1MQ Yeah. 17:28 Speaker 5: All right. Number 3. So I just started my peptide journey 2 weeks ago. I started with Reta and CJC. 17:33 Speaker 5: I'm a 33 year old woman with 3 kids. 10/03/2024. 17:37 Speaker 5: I reached my heaviest at 02:26. 17:41 Speaker 5: That day I locked in. I eat pretty clean, but I hate counting calories. 17:45 Speaker 5: You shouldn't count calories anyway, so that's perfect. That you hate it, don't do it. Yeah. So You 17:50 Speaker 5: should you should try counting your macros though instead. So 17:54 Speaker 5: weighing in at 1 70, 17:56 Speaker 5: naturally, my measurements are getting smaller, but I've been stuck at the same weight for about 4 months now. I do weight training 4 to 5 days a week, 18:04 Speaker 5: and low intensity cardio after every lift. 18:08 Speaker 5: Do you think this is the right stack? 18:12 Speaker 4: Let me take that. Yeah, go ahead. I'll add some Retta, well, it sounds like you just started the Retta. Right? She said 2 weeks She got down from 2 26 to 1 70. But I think that was with her just dieting. She says I started Retta. So I just started my party 2 weeks ago. So there there's the answer right there. I mean, the Reddaugh is going to just jumpstart that without a doubt. Is the Reddaugh CJC a good stack for you? Sure. It sounds like you haven't done anything yet. So anything pretty much you're going to do, you're going to feel 18:40 Speaker 4: pretty well. 18:42 Speaker 4: If you've listened to this show and 18:44 Speaker 4: any of the shows, we're going to tell you the run is just a scientific breakthrough and you're going to break through that plateau without a doubt. So 18:52 Speaker 5: easy peasy. Yeah, you're in a good spot. So I would say that, yeah, there's nothing wrong with what you're doing. And like, so 1st of all, 2 26 to 170 is huge. Like that's amazing. 19:04 Speaker 5: No doubt that you're at a plateau, right? This is your body's like natural biology protecting. 19:11 Speaker 5: So again, right? Our bodies were genetically 19:14 Speaker 5: designed 19:14 Speaker 5: as 19:16 Speaker 5: cavemen to survive and survive 19:19 Speaker 5: through 19:21 Speaker 5: winter and low in food scarcities. And the only ways we survive through that is by our body, 19:27 Speaker 5: holding on to tissue and holding onto fat because that keeps us warm and is our backup, 19:33 Speaker 5: food source. So when you go some, when you dramatically lose weight, cool, 19:38 Speaker 5: that means you definitely were overweight because you lost it all. Everybody didn't like to be that overweight, but now it's going, Hey, we've lost a lot and I need to, let me, I want to hold on to all this stuff. Okay. 19:50 Speaker 5: So 1st of all and also so so you're you're fighting some biology now, which everybody does, and it makes sense that you're at a plateau. Okay? But we gotta work your way around that plateau. 20:00 Speaker 5: A, you did say that your weight is not the scale isn't moving, but your measurements are. So like, shit, that is the whole, that's what you want. Right? This is your body recomposing, 20:11 Speaker 5: right? You're going through like a recomposition. So just so we know, 20:14 Speaker 5: you 20:15 Speaker 5: this may sound dumb, but like if you lose 2 pounds of fat and you add 2 pounds of muscle, your weight stays the same. 20:21 Speaker 5: And 20:23 Speaker 5: that's awesome, right? I have 20:26 Speaker 5: some pictures of like, of different women who have, who are 10 pounds heavier, but did a full body recomp 20:33 Speaker 5: and 10 pounds heavier. And they look, I mean, they look like they're 40 pounds lighter, but just because the composition is completely different, they lost fat, replaced it with muscle in the right places and look amazing. So you are doing the right damn things. I would say 20:47 Speaker 5: the CJC, I would maybe, Hey, I'd swap that out for Tesamorelin. Good point. Let's get some like visceral fat and belly fat burning. It's going to be your most powerful, 20:56 Speaker 5: well, spot 20:58 Speaker 5: fat burner. 20:59 Speaker 5: Also I would add some MOTS-1C in just for basic, like metabolic rate, just increasing your metabolism, 21:05 Speaker 5: and 21:06 Speaker 5: your body's just natural caloric burn. So, 21:10 Speaker 5: take a look at your eating too. Make sure you're getting enough food. 21:13 Speaker 5: I don't know. Your weight training sounds all- Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes, 21:18 Speaker 0: 0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes. 21:30 Speaker 5: Some, but how about this? Switch it up. When we hit plateaus, 21:34 Speaker 5: name of the game is to just do something different. Okay. 21:38 Speaker 5: So this is where like fasting, maybe, like HIIT type training comes in. 21:44 Speaker 5: Just do something different, but it's productive to bust that plateau. 21:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to trick your body. We all do. We've been working out forever. And what happens is we get so like comfortable with what we like, 21:55 Speaker 4: our diet that works for us, the way we work out. I mean, it's still for us. Well, I've been working on our whole life and still we, I get so caught up sometimes in just doing the same stuff. I just started that a couple of days ago. I'm eating like 5 meals a day and I'm not going to fast at all, which is really strange for me because I've been doing it for so long. I just want to change. I'm a lift heavy. I don't use a lift heavy, lift heavy, eat a lot, no fasting, but it's going to trick my body. And then I'll go back to what I like maybe in May. 22:21 Speaker 4: But you got to shock your system and 22:24 Speaker 4: you try other things. You might like some other things too. You know what I mean? Diets, there's so many diets that work there. If any, if any fitness guy or any coach or whatever tells you this is the way and this is only way then jump ship because there's all kinds of ways to skin a cat. Try it off. As a woman, like go, Hey, do your 4 to 5 days a week, right? Lifting, but like, why don't you go just super heavy? 22:43 Speaker 5: Just lift me. Give me some like 4 to 6 reps on everything you do 22:48 Speaker 5: for a couple of weeks. 22:50 Speaker 5: But in that case, but also take 1 22:53 Speaker 5: minute to 2 minutes in between 22:55 Speaker 5: in between sets. Watch. It'll Like 22:58 Speaker 5: your body's just not used to that. And don't 23:02 Speaker 5: worry like people, the old adage of, Hey, if I lift heavy weight and low reps, just get huge, 23:09 Speaker 5: Versus high reps, low weight, I'm going to get shredded. That's not really true. Like there is a huge, I mean, it depends on rest time and food intake, etcetera. But like, I frankly like the heavy, heavy, heavy, but with 23:21 Speaker 5: very minimal rest, right? You're not gonna be able to lift a whole bunch of weights on set 3. You know, your weight's gonna dramatically go down, but your body's gonna get beat is gonna get shredded and beat up. That's what you're looking for. Yeah. You'll drip sweat. You'll do that. 23:35 Speaker 5: That's the name again. Body's working. And he's right. Like this is again, bio evolutionarily, 23:41 Speaker 5: like we get really good. Our human body is really good at taking the path of least resistance. Okay. And getting really good at doing something so it can use the very least amount of energy possible. So if you're in the same exercise routine, it has figured that out. And it's learned how to do that 23:58 Speaker 5: with the least energy possible, 24:00 Speaker 5: burning the least amount of calories possible. 24:02 Speaker 5: So you need, you need to change it and trick it. This is why people who are distance runners and just do cardio is like not an effective way to burn fat. That's your body's, 1st of all, it just gets really used to it. You don't get sore anymore. Your muscles get used to it and it doesn't, 24:16 Speaker 5: it doesn't help the fat burning 24:19 Speaker 5: anymore. Okay. Next 62, 24:22 Speaker 5: am I reading? 24:24 Speaker 4: Mean 24:25 Speaker 4: me? I think it's me. 62 year old male have considered taking HGH, 24:30 Speaker 4: Sermorelin or Tessa 24:32 Speaker 4: somewhere in that 1 to 2 IU range, I'm still in the gym 4 to 5 days a week and looking for general overall health and in a much bigger way, workout recovery, 24:43 Speaker 4: which is pretty much not very good at this age. 24:47 Speaker 4: Think I understand the difference between the 3 24:50 Speaker 4: in that HGH replenishes 24:53 Speaker 4: or adds HGH while Sermorelin and Tesa just 24:56 Speaker 4: stimulate the pituitary gland to produce more. 24:59 Speaker 4: Would Serm or Tessa be worth taking in trying to get my old and slow pituitary to produce what little extra it can? Or would you recommend just going to the HGH from a cost to value type perspective? 25:13 Speaker 4: I will add that to I will add that my urologist 25:17 Speaker 4: just wrote me a prescription 25:19 Speaker 4: for TRT that I should be starting soon 25:23 Speaker 4: when everything else goes through. I'm thinking I should maybe get tests dialed in 1st before starting the others. 25:29 Speaker 4: Thoughts? 25:30 Speaker 4: A dosage protocol 25:32 Speaker 4: for both would be great. 25:34 Speaker 4: Also, much thanks fellows. 25:36 Speaker 4: We might have a different 1 answer 25:39 Speaker 5: on this 1. I don't know. I don't think so. Okay, here's my answer is 25:42 Speaker 5: you're 62 years old, your pituitary is not doing that great of working, right? 25:49 Speaker 5: Although, and you are right, like these, the secretagogues, 25:53 Speaker 5: especially as CGC, Sermorelin, Tesamorelin 25:55 Speaker 5: are stimulating the pituitary to, Hey, signaling that to go make more of our HGH. 26:02 Speaker 5: It's still not going to be enough. Don't think 26:05 Speaker 5: based on your age, I would just, I would do the absolute, just straight 26:09 Speaker 5: exogenous human growth hormone. 26:13 Speaker 5: 2 IUs, heck, for 2 to 3 IUs a day and every day, 7 days a week, 26:19 Speaker 5: in the morning in a fasted state 26:22 Speaker 5: and do that and run it for a while forever 26:25 Speaker 5: till you die, honestly. 26:27 Speaker 5: That would be the best. So that's what I would do for sure. I just don't think that you're dude, you're just of the age, like classic of the age of that. Need to get the help and get the best help financially. 26:38 Speaker 5: You're looking at, so I guess here's the thing, just whatever you're looking at kit wise, they all come in kits in a different like total number of IUs. Usually it's about a, 26:47 Speaker 5: usually it is a kit with 10 vials. Okay? And then each vial, so I'm familiar with a 100 IU kits, 150, 26:55 Speaker 5: 200, 2 40 IU kits. Okay? So the difference is in the 100 IU kit, 10 vials of 10 IUs in a vial. 150, 10, 10 vials of 15 IUs, 27:06 Speaker 5: then 20 IUs, then 24 IUs. 27:10 Speaker 5: Right? So you'll know, Hey, you just do the math on it. Like that's up to you and your budgeting. Cause he said, Hey, I want a value perspective. But 27:18 Speaker 5: if I'm going say, start with 2 IUs a day, if you get a 100 kit that will last you 50 days. 27:26 Speaker 5: All right. There's your math, right? If you get a 200 IU kit and you do 2 IUs a day, it's going to last you 100 days. So 27:33 Speaker 5: you just be the judge, but I think that that's going to be your way more effective route. Then the testosterone is going to do wonders for you. Holy shit. You're in for a surprise. The test is going to work real fast. HGH is going to work real slow. So 27:47 Speaker 5: I would just, I would start the HGH now. 1 It's 27:50 Speaker 5: a really easy dose protocol 27:52 Speaker 5: to I use a day, run it after maybe a month. If you feel like bumping up, see, you know, bumping up to 3, use a day, 28:00 Speaker 5: the TRT, I guess it looks like you're getting it from your urologist. I would probably maybe listen to what they tell you, but 28:06 Speaker 5: you got 62. You're probably not going to have kids. Right? 28:09 Speaker 5: I would be safe on starting at 200 mg a week, 28:12 Speaker 4: doing 2 injections. Yeah. 28:14 Speaker 5: It'd be interesting to see but like you're at a where did eat healthy, keep doing cardio because you don't want your bad cholesterol to get elevated. 28:22 Speaker 5: Right. Which it, you know, cholesterol can, will raise 28:26 Speaker 5: if you're not doing the right things on testosterone, 28:29 Speaker 5: but still based on, I don't know your blood, but for a normal person, I'd say start with 200 mg a week. 28:37 Speaker 4: See how you feel for a month. It's going to take a few weeks before you really feel it. But yeah, we'll obviously nail that. H here's 1 thing that a couple of things that people 28:49 Speaker 4: I think are wrong on the HGH. 28:51 Speaker 4: 1 that it's expensive. So 28:53 Speaker 4: obviously that's subjective, but if you compare it to like a Tesamorelin or whatnot, in my opinion, it's cheaper because it's a big kit and it lasts for a long time. So if you break out the math, it's really about the same. Yeah. It really is. You take it a long time and, Tesamorelin would last, what is it, last 3 weeks? I don't know if I'm Yeah. I'll do some math by the time you're done talking to the HGH really isn't that expensive. It really isn't when you break the math down. Like you said, I use 29:17 Speaker 4: man, you're cruising. So another question I got literally today, 29:21 Speaker 4: I'm worried about the cancer side. I think I've said this before, but if you didn't hear me, let me say it again. I think you should worry more about Doritos and chips and all the crap seed oil foods a lot more than you should worry about HGH. 29:33 Speaker 4: The pros are going to highly outweigh the cons and anything like that. 2, I use as a low dose, 29:39 Speaker 4: it'll make you feel great. 29:40 Speaker 4: So keep that up. The cost is not what people say. The doe, the cancer stuff is just, I don't think people, people that, that I don't know where that came from so long ago, but I don't think it should be a worry at 2 IUs around that Mark. 29:54 Speaker 4: But other than that, you're going to be changing your life here in a few weeks, man. You're going to be feeling great. The 29:59 Speaker 4: HGH is going to take a long play. It's going take about 6 months, but you will notice that it's easier to burn fat 30:04 Speaker 4: around about 6 months. 30:06 Speaker 5: Those 30:07 Speaker 5: 2 are great, man. HGH and TRT, man. They're perfect together. Really on the doing the math. So I just took 100 30:14 Speaker 5: IU kit, I'm estimating about $450 30:17 Speaker 5: okay, for 100 IU kit. That will last you 50 days. So 50 days for 4 50. Then let's take Tesa Ipah blend, okay, 5 mg, 5 mg, and let's set a price tag of a $100. 30:29 Speaker 5: Okay? 30:30 Speaker 5: And 30:31 Speaker 5: that's kind of maybe that's a little, maybe it's cheaper. 30:35 Speaker 5: Sure. But, 30:36 Speaker 5: so a $100 and let's go with 0.5 a milligram a day. Okay. Of each of them. That means that bottle lasts you 10 days. Okay. And the bottle costs you a $100. 30:46 Speaker 5: So therefore AFT and so 50 days worth is $500 So the 30:52 Speaker 5: exogenous HGH is actually cheaper in this case. Now 30:56 Speaker 5: you need to plug some real world numbers in, but those are pretty easy. Those are pretty close. Think it's even more than a $100. There you go. And frankly, that 0.5 of a milligram, nothing. You're a grown man. I think that you really want to do a full milligram. Therefore that bottle lasts you 5 days. Therefore that bill is 1,003 31:13 Speaker 5: Yeah. There you go. There you go. And we both said HGH. There you go buddy. There you go. That helps man. But good stuff. Keep us Hey warriors. 1st of all, I got to say that how you 2 are doing God's work. Thank you. And changing the world for the better. 31:27 Speaker 5: I'm 21 year old male. I played, sports all my life and have been in the gym since I was 13. I have a strict workout schedule and fast daily 11 to 7, then a full 24 hour fast on Sunday. You're a disciplined person. 31:40 Speaker 5: I recently was noticing brain fog, low libido. 31:44 Speaker 5: So following your advice, I got a hormone test. My total test was 15.20. 31:52 Speaker 5: Okay. 31:53 Speaker 5: We're going have to, yeah. I did the math. Oh, you did. Okay. Good. Thank you. Was kind of curious. So what's that equal? So what was his test in nanograms per 4 38 nanograms per deciliter. So that, so you're either from Canada, Australia, like UK. So 32:05 Speaker 4: you're generally speaking, that's about in The U S 4 32:09 Speaker 4: 30 32:10 Speaker 4: tests, total tests. 32:12 Speaker 4: Job. At 21 dude. Yeah. 32:14 Speaker 5: Probably because, yeah. Anyway, but I'm concerned about how low my test is. Yep. 32:19 Speaker 5: I really want to bump it up. I'm really concerned about my fertility as I haven't had kids yet. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks again for all you guys Do stay hard. 32:28 Speaker 5: Like that. That's good. 32:30 Speaker 5: Go ahead, JD. So 32:32 Speaker 4: in the free test is, 32:36 Speaker 4: so nanomoles per liter is 0.263, 32:39 Speaker 4: which equals 9 or 8 32:41 Speaker 4: nanograms per deciliter in The United States. That is really low free testosterone. That means you're tired and you don't have less low, you have low sex drive. 32:49 Speaker 4: Feel exactly probably how the numbers are showing. 32:53 Speaker 4: Wow. 21. That is definitely loads. Definitely scares me more and more seeing these numbers. Men are not supposed to be living like that, 33:01 Speaker 4: but it can be fixed now. 33:04 Speaker 4: You're definitely young to be on testosterone replacement, 33:09 Speaker 4: but at the same time, 33:11 Speaker 4: you don't want to feel like shit and you work out a lot and you fast a lot and you do that. That's great. 33:18 Speaker 4: Man, that's a tough 1. I mean, I guess if it were me 33:22 Speaker 4: now, you've probably heard, I've gotten my wife pregnant twice on testosterone. 33:27 Speaker 4: So it can be done. You're young though. So being it on it in a very, very long time, I mean, Will and I've worked with people that are on a long time too, but man, 21 is my 33:37 Speaker 4: only real concern is you are so freaking young. But again, I would go, I try to go off really how I feel. And you probably just feel like shit dude. And that you're, you're healthy. You like to lift. 33:49 Speaker 4: You sound like us, man. You fell in love with it. You never stopped. Same thing. 33:53 Speaker 4: So you want to feel good, man. I'm gonna go out there and say, would probably get on TRT knowing 33:58 Speaker 4: that you can still stay fertile. You want to stay on HCG. 34:02 Speaker 4: I would probably recommend you run it at 1000 IUs Monday, Wednesday, Friday, right out the gate, because that will keep your fertility 34:10 Speaker 4: run. And even if you don't have a baby, generally speaking, you can kind of get away with it by staying fertile at 500 microgram or 500 IU, I mean, for HCG. 34:20 Speaker 4: But you being so young man and you want to make sure you keep that fertility out to go with 1000. Yeah. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. 34:25 Speaker 4: So that's a tough 1, man. 34:28 Speaker 5: That's my, that's my take. It's a rough 1 because you're so young. Here's the deal. I agree. Like you're 21. That's too young. I think that I do. I think that the your so overtraining, 34:37 Speaker 5: right? 34:38 Speaker 5: You can absolutely hurt a man's testosterone. All right. So there might, you gotta look at your lifestyle. Would just, let's look at lifestyle 1st. Would, and your nutrient intake, right? The fact that you are fasting a lot and, 34:50 Speaker 5: and dieting hard, I would actually kind of make sure that you're eating enough, right? 34:57 Speaker 5: Fat and carbs, I would kind of do maybe with 35:01 Speaker 5: what JD is doing right now 35:03 Speaker 5: because he couldn't sleep. 35:06 Speaker 5: I would, 35:08 Speaker 5: I would fast less right now. I'd try to go to some different eating habits. Okay. Like go to the, go to the, 35:14 Speaker 5: go to the small frequent meals for a little bit and, and, 35:18 Speaker 5: reduce 35:20 Speaker 5: excessive 35:21 Speaker 5: training 35:22 Speaker 5: and maybe excessive fasting. 35:24 Speaker 5: Cut out just part of 1 of those fasts that you do. 35:28 Speaker 5: Sure that your sleep is dialed in because JD will tell you like he's had a little trouble sleeping 35:33 Speaker 5: and there's a reason. 35:35 Speaker 5: So you might be having that issue. And if you're having that issue, then yes, that is absolutely going to hurt your test levels. And 35:43 Speaker 5: checking your like vitamins, 35:45 Speaker 5: zinc, 35:47 Speaker 5: magnesium, 35:48 Speaker 5: vitamin D, etcetera. If you're in The UK, maybe you need some vitamin D. 35:53 Speaker 5: It's kinda like it was in Seattle when I was there. And 35:57 Speaker 5: finally, 35:58 Speaker 5: in clomiphene shit, 36:00 Speaker 5: I would honestly, before I would jump on tests, I would run some, I would run like 25 mgs of clomiphene daily, even HCG by itself. Who knows like that? You just, it sounds like you're in a 20, 21. 36:11 Speaker 4: You just need a little, like, I think just a little kickstart and you never know what's going to happen. So that's what I would do 1st. Yeah, I think that if you dig a little deeper, maybe there's some stuff behind the scenes too. Like, well, like I said, I'm going to be telling you, I what's 36:24 Speaker 4: worked for me has worked for a very long time until it doesn't. And that's kind of what's been going on where, I mean, I've been on the carnivore diet for 5 years and I've loved it. There's never been a problem. I've been fasting for 10. 36:36 Speaker 4: But as Will said in the last, I don't know, no, 4 to 5 months, give or take, I sleep like shit. I fall asleep on a dime at 9 and then I wake up at like anywhere from 12 to 2 wide awake, can't go back to sleep. It sucks. I'm it's it compounds and gets to the point where like, 36:53 Speaker 4: I work a lot. It's been rough. 36:56 Speaker 4: So I've 36:57 Speaker 4: researched the hell out of it to try to figure out what the hell it was. I mean, I pulled all the peptides out. I've done so much lately to try to figure this son of bitch out. And here's what I've come up with and it kind of sounds logical with a lot of research in it. I might not be getting enough nutrients either, which sounds weird. I've fasted for so long and I've lived on these nutrients for a long time, the amount that I eat, but a lot of times I eat 1 time a day and 37:21 Speaker 4: I don't think that that's it is enough. That's why I'm going to the 5 meals. I'm going to shock the hell out of my system. I'm going to see if it helps me sleep. 37:29 Speaker 4: Your situation might not be the same as mine. It might not be sleep testosterone, 37:33 Speaker 4: but try 37:35 Speaker 4: some different stuff and just research the hell out of it. And then try this, try that, try that, And just figure it out sometimes for yourself to where, you know, we're all science project and that's 1 thing that Will and I are. We will dig into it and try different things to see what works until it doesn't. Like I said, it sucks because like, I'm very like robotic and now 37:55 Speaker 1: I'm like, rain man, v e r n is not working. Yeah. 38:00 Speaker 5: Here we are. 5 meals a day now. But you gotta do something, dude. It sounds like, yeah, your life isn't right, but the the brain fog the brain fog and low energy and and, like, that's not good. So let's do some, make some changes. Yeah. And, and kind of track those changes and just listen to your body. 38:16 Speaker 5: Okay. Cause you got a lot of changes that could happen. Yep. You're young man. You're resilient. Yeah, absolutely. 38:21 Speaker 5: Okay. 38:23 Speaker 4: You're reading. You're up. What's 38:27 Speaker 4: up guys? Absolutely love the podcast and the new school community. We forgot to talk about that. You're the reason my wife finally agreed to let me start TRT. Love it. 43 year old total test was $3.35. 38:38 Speaker 4: Woah. Fried says 21 and currently in week 3. We both use low dose Reta with great results. I just started Tessa 0.5 mg 7 38:48 Speaker 4: days a week, then going to a full mg and Ipamorelin 38:52 Speaker 4: 0.25. 38:53 Speaker 4: Also currently on MOTS C, 38:55 Speaker 4: 1 mg daily, 38:58 Speaker 4: the wife is interested in the benefits she would see using Tessa Ipi combo, 39:04 Speaker 4: wondering the best dosage would be for her and if dosing 39:08 Speaker 4: I plan to implement looks proper, 39:10 Speaker 4: slowly working on adding more peptides as a budget allows. Thank you for the feedback. God bless. 39:17 Speaker 4: Good stuff. What do you want to do? Like, 39:20 Speaker 5: yeah, good for her. And I guess good for us for making you, hopefully you'll start for the TRT thing. That's awesome. Yeah. She should let you do it. Good for her. But, and you're still, I mean, heck, you're, you said you're 3 weeks in and your total test is currently 3 35 39:35 Speaker 5: free test 21. You got a ways to go. Right? And it's just, just started. I mean, I don't, I'm scared to know what it was when you started. 39:43 Speaker 1: Think that's 39:44 Speaker 5: where it started. Really? Okay, maybe total was this and then currently in 3 3 39:50 Speaker 5: changing that, I guess. Okay. Well, 39:52 Speaker 5: good. Keep going, man. Week 3, you're just about feeling the bill, just about feeling the test. 39:58 Speaker 5: You, I mean, shit, your Retta, 40:01 Speaker 5: that's awesome. 40:03 Speaker 5: Your Tesa going up to 1 mg and 0.25. 40:06 Speaker 5: Okay. So here's the thing. I would say that as a man, I think you can increase your Ipamorelin, 40:13 Speaker 5: to a mg and then, you know, I don't know. I could, you could experiment getting up to 1 MIG of Ipra also instead of 0.25. I think for your wife starting it since you have, well, 40:23 Speaker 5: the wife should do the Tessa Ipra and if you have them separate for women, it's kind of a good idea to go a little bit lower on the IpA because that's 40:32 Speaker 5: just like enhancing 40:34 Speaker 5: these pulses. Women, 40:36 Speaker 5: if you're going to have side effects, a lot of it is water retention and women definitely do not like when you need water retention. Okay? Because it just makes you look plump, more plump. So if your 40:46 Speaker 5: dose is a little bit high, you'll start seeing some water retention. 40:49 Speaker 5: If that is the case, then just lower the doses and then slowly 40:53 Speaker 5: come back up. So for 40:56 Speaker 5: your wife, I'd say, let's start her. If you're doing them as separates, maybe shit. Point, 41:02 Speaker 5: if you want to be really conservative, 41:04 Speaker 5: 0.25 41:05 Speaker 5: of the tests, I'd probably just start her at 0.5. 41:08 Speaker 5: And Ipamorelin, I'd probably, you know, 41:11 Speaker 5: 0.1, 41:12 Speaker 5: 0.2 41:13 Speaker 5: to 0.25 starting. 41:15 Speaker 5: Maybe max her out at about 0.5 of the Ipah and 41:19 Speaker 5: maybe 1 of Tessa if you want to. But you if you're getting them the blend, 41:24 Speaker 5: sorry, they gotta be the same doses. Right? If they're both 5 meg Migs and 5 Migs, 41:29 Speaker 0: I would start Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes, 41:33 Speaker 0: 0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes. 41:46 Speaker 5: Both at 41:47 Speaker 5: for her, let's start both at 0.5, to be honest. If 41:51 Speaker 5: she's got some if she gets water retention from there, you back it up to 0.25, 0.25. 41:55 Speaker 5: If it gets water retention from there, you're gonna have to get it in 2 separate, so Tesamorelin bottle and an Ipamorelin bottle and start the Ipamorelin really low, 42:03 Speaker 5: 102 hundred micrograms. So I don't know if that was helpful, but 42:08 Speaker 5: it's in the benefits you would see the Tesla, but she's going to see a lot, right? 42:13 Speaker 5: Increased ability to add muscle, but not, she's not going to turn into a bodybuilder. Okay. That's what women think that, but they're, she's not, she's not just pop these huge muscles out. Out. 42:24 Speaker 5: Will burn fat faster. Her metabolism will go up or her, and it will attack visceral fat in her abdominal 42:30 Speaker 5: fat, which is awesome. 42:33 Speaker 5: Like over time. So these are the cool thing here is like over time, Hey, the wrinkles starting to kind of go away, right? Your skin 42:40 Speaker 5: gets a little bit more vibrant. 42:42 Speaker 5: You start to look younger. 42:44 Speaker 5: This is, you know, 6 months a year, then 2 years, then 3 years. Yeah. 42:48 Speaker 5: Even on the secretagogs, but in secretagogs, it's still kind of a cycle break, cycle break. Whereas if it's if we're talking just real HGH, it's it's just 42:57 Speaker 5: do it forever. 42:59 Speaker 5: And watch yourself, you know, make sure your blood sugar is not getting too high and etcetera. 43:03 Speaker 5: But 43:04 Speaker 5: but the longer you're on way better, better it goes. Yeah. But it looks like you guys are on the right path. I think that have 43:11 Speaker 5: her do it. There's not shit. 43:12 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be worried 1 little bit about her doing it. Was too less. For women, it goes a long way. A little bit goes a long way. So we did, let me just pick up on what they said. We do. We meant to say that in the beginning. We do have a new school 43:25 Speaker 4: warrior platform, which has been great. It's grown a little bit quicker than we were even expecting. 43:30 Speaker 4: I think so many people are seeking just 43:33 Speaker 4: information on peptides. 43:35 Speaker 4: You don't know what that is, it's a platform that we've built. We built it. So people are going on there. They are posting stuff. 43:42 Speaker 4: Are chiming in answering questions. It's not just us. We don't even have the time to answer all the questions on there, but the whole objective was to bring people off of social media where they just it's heavily, heavily, 43:53 Speaker 4: heavily, heavily, heavily watched. I was dinged again for post a year ago. It's crazy. 43:58 Speaker 4: It's just, that's just old. Everybody's sick of that, I think. So you're able to talk freely and everybody supports each other. It's amazing. It's done better than we expected. So Warrior 44:08 Speaker 4: Elite, 44:08 Speaker 4: Warrior Maker platform on school, you'll find School. K O 44:12 Speaker 1: 0 L. 44:13 Speaker 4: In 44:14 Speaker 4: regards to the 2nd thing, I'm stoked just to hear that we had some 44:20 Speaker 4: help with your wife kind of open your eyes to the fact that testosterone is a good thing. 44:25 Speaker 4: There's so many men now, things are starting to change and so many people are coming around, not even just for men, 44:31 Speaker 4: women are starting to take testosterone and it's changing their lives just like men. So I'm glad that that big wall of just, 44:41 Speaker 4: incorrectness 44:42 Speaker 4: is broken down because it's been there forever. 44:45 Speaker 4: Will and I have been talking about this stuff for a 44:48 Speaker 4: lot longer than we've had this podcast. Let me tell you that. And it's funny how some guys still go, don't tell my wife or don't tell anybody I'm with testosterone. 44:55 Speaker 4: Dude, this is a good thing. So anyways, we're glad that we were helped with that. I'm going to go a little bit different. I'm going to say for your bride, 45:02 Speaker 4: I like the Tessa alone. I like to put my bride on it, Tessa alone and, 45:07 Speaker 4: just a 1 make, I think would do wonders for her. 1 make of Tessa at night. It'll burn that little belly fat. If she's got a little pooch there, it really focuses on that. And, 45:18 Speaker 5: I would start there. So that's my recommendation. A Tesa for women. That's good. Good idea. Actually not a bad, not a bad suggestion. Hope that helps. All right. 45:29 Speaker 5: I think this is me. All right. Question. Chloe from Australia. What's up, my 45:35 Speaker 5: mom, 48. I 45:38 Speaker 5: don't mean to make fun of you. It's just, we don't say it like that. But so my mom, 48, myself, 45:43 Speaker 5: 48 myself, 45:45 Speaker 5: Chloe, 25 have gone crazy on peptides. 45:48 Speaker 5: For you. I started my journey 7 weeks ago on Retta and BPC TB 45:53 Speaker 5: at 150 45:55 Speaker 5: kg and currently 138 45:57 Speaker 5: kg. 45:58 Speaker 5: Good for you. I have just started stacking GHK- 46:02 Speaker 5: week 3 currently and Tesamorelin 46:04 Speaker 5: going into week 2. I'm wanting to know the following. Okay. 46:08 Speaker 5: Are, 46:09 Speaker 5: are my stacks okay? Tessa 5 46:13 Speaker 5: days on and 2 days off, or should I go every day? Every day it needs to be done in a very consistent basis. The only reason you go 5 on 2 off is to save money. 46:23 Speaker 5: It's old like trick G is passed down from long time ago for doing HGH, right? 46:28 Speaker 5: Not, that's, that is a myth and so 46:32 Speaker 5: every day will be much more effective. Okay. 46:36 Speaker 5: Every day. So should I do it every day? Yes. Okay. And then when does Tessa 46:40 Speaker 5: kick in or start to roll 46:42 Speaker 5: with targeting the visceral fat? My mom, 48, who started Reta for heavy inflammation 46:49 Speaker 5: and perimenopause 46:50 Speaker 5: symptoms is always 46:51 Speaker 5: strength trained and focused on body recomp and always eaten at 100% on point. She's also been on HRT gel 46:58 Speaker 5: for the last year and 0.5, but it's made minimal gains and still felt like shit. 47:04 Speaker 5: 4 weeks ago, she started at 60.9 47:07 Speaker 5: kg and currently 50 55.8. 47:10 Speaker 5: She's also just started BPC TB. The Reta has exceeded her expectations on how she's been feeling. 47:17 Speaker 5: On, my mom has been looking into MOTS-3C and the additional benefits of that to support her menopause. In general, will MOTS-3C Be a good addition to her to add her to her stack to support para menopause symptoms. We both are fans of your podcasts. Appreciate all the information as it has helped us guide through with our peptide journey. 47:34 Speaker 5: Damn. Good job. Good. Thank you for the message. And those were like, I mean, look, those are real questions. 47:40 Speaker 5: You've thought this stuff out. Right. And tried. So 47:44 Speaker 5: I answered every day for the Tesa. 47:48 Speaker 5: I mean, I'd say 3 to 6 weeks on the test orelin, 47:51 Speaker 5: working, 47:52 Speaker 5: attacking visceral fat and seeing just generally kind of seeing results. Now visceral fat is inside you. You don't see that. But I'd say about 3 to 6 weeks. 48:03 Speaker 5: I would go 12 weeks like consistent. 48:06 Speaker 5: Don't look back and just put your head down and just 48:09 Speaker 5: do it no matter what for 12 weeks. Okay. Don't 48:12 Speaker 5: think, don't be sitting there waiting daily for, Oh, did I see some results? 48:16 Speaker 5: It's not going to work like that. It just, these are peptides. These need to be done consistently for a longer time. I'd say 3 to 4 months, really. 48:25 Speaker 5: The most part, right? We nail Reta works a bit faster. 48:31 Speaker 5: You know, your mom, MOTS-3C, could be helpful. 48:34 Speaker 5: And I 48:36 Speaker 5: think so. She's already doing Retatrutide. I'm just wondering, you said still feels like shit on the gel. 48:41 Speaker 5: I never said, never heard that you said she started to feel like shit. So I don't really know why she's feeling like shit. 48:49 Speaker 5: Okay. That's, I guess that is 1 question I don't know. I don't, I do think the MOTS-3C cannot hurt. It can increase her like metabolic flexibility. 48:57 Speaker 5: Sounds like she trains a lot and has been doing that forever. And, and, and people who have trained for a long time have really kind of beaten down their body. The way, 49:06 Speaker 5: they may look like they're in shape, but sometimes it's, 49:10 Speaker 5: there may be some kind of metabolic damage for a lot of, you know, some, some big like weight loss or muscle gain periods. 49:17 Speaker 5: So I think MOTS-1s): Will be good for her. But 49:20 Speaker 5: in consistency in time, 49:24 Speaker 5: I don't, I think that answered your questions, 49:26 Speaker 5: but you keep going and keep messaging us 49:29 Speaker 4: Yeah. But different things. Can give you some different ideas. Yeah. We're big in Australia. We love, we appreciate you guys. You guys are all listening out there. We get to hear from them all the time. Appreciate that. So yeah, I think that, your mom, your mom should, 49:41 Speaker 4: kick the 49:42 Speaker 4: cream to the curb for sure. And just use the actual testosterone. 49:47 Speaker 4: That stuff that's this stuff sucks, man. Do you know what I mean? Like nobody likes that stuff. It don't even really work. 49:53 Speaker 4: Don't know how much you're really getting the gel just sucks. Skit on TRT. That's probably a fix right there. She'll feel great in a couple of weeks to do that when it comes to premenopause. 50:03 Speaker 4: The 50:05 Speaker 4: easiest way for anybody is just to attack the symptoms. What are some of the symptoms like for a lack of a way to better way to say it, you know, dryness down below. So you got PT-one hundred 41 would help down there. Skin 50:17 Speaker 4: can be kind of flaky, whatnot. You can have GHK-3C 50:20 Speaker 4: should be added into that. NAD should be added into that for just 50:25 Speaker 4: like cellular energy. I mean, there's a reason why all the movie stars take NAD and HGH because they freaking work. Anti ages are amazing and especially for perimenopause. 50:35 Speaker 4: NAD is amazing. 50:36 Speaker 4: The MOTS-1C will be great. You can add in, we'll know this SS-thirty 1 on top of that would light those 2 on fire. 50:43 Speaker 4: But again, you just attack where, 50:45 Speaker 4: what the problem is, right? If it's skin and GHK- 50:48 Speaker 4: if it's like cellular energy NAD, 50:51 Speaker 4: MOTS-thirty 50:52 Speaker 4: 1, those are going to work with that type of stuff. 50:55 Speaker 4: Also, if you can get it out there, 50:58 Speaker 4: the cream, the 50:59 Speaker 4: face cream, the GHK- 51:02 Speaker 4: I don't know if you can get the SNAP-8GHK-3C 51:04 Speaker 4: face cream out there, but that'll help in regards to some of that stuff and aging and things like that. 51:10 Speaker 4: That's a bunch to throw at you. But again, just see what the problem is and how you feel. And there's usually a peptide to fix that. So 51:18 Speaker 4: that's 51:19 Speaker 4: a permitted pause stack that we'd put together that I just kind of ran through quickly, but that'll help. 51:26 Speaker 4: A TRT, that's the TRT. Get on some TRT. Even if it's the pellets, I don't know if you guys have that out in Australia. A lot of people, some people like them, some people don't. They're easy for women because they can kind of control it a little bit better, but it's a tiny little bit. 51:39 Speaker 5: But yeah, get rid of the gel. I think that you should, like NAD is a great suggestion. I think that a few others peptides 51:47 Speaker 5: for 51:48 Speaker 5: your mom, 51:49 Speaker 5: never know. Like we talked about with the MOTS-1C, like you just might, she might do NAD and just might go, boom, changes her life because 51:56 Speaker 5: she's deficient in that. Right? 51:59 Speaker 5: But you don't know until you try. So I would, I would for sure add NAD as well. 52:04 Speaker 5: That seems to, 52:06 Speaker 5: I don't know. I like it and a lot of people love that stuff. Probably 7 minute pause is probably the best. Yeah. 52:12 Speaker 5: So 52:14 Speaker 5: you're up. 52:15 Speaker 4: Love the show guys. You guys do awesome at breaking down what has worked for you. My question is I started using NAD plus and have heard that I needed to start my cycle with a 7 day loading cycle of a 100 52:29 Speaker 4: each morning. Well, I did this for 7 days straight and immediately felt tingling, 52:34 Speaker 4: nausea, hungry, 52:36 Speaker 4: and a little off. On the 7th day, went in for my quarterly blood test for my testosterone 52:42 Speaker 4: therapy as 52:43 Speaker 4: I was being checked and the nurse claimed my blood pressure was abnormally 52:47 Speaker 4: low to 75 over 85. I'm wondering, can NAD cause low blood pressure? 52:53 Speaker 4: I have also been using Selank and Cmax 300 micrograms of each 52:58 Speaker 4: in 1 mg of the MOTS- C every morning. Also, the NAD was definitely what made me feel off. I since cut down our back to 25 53:07 Speaker 4: micrograms 53:09 Speaker 4: and 53:10 Speaker 4: milligrams daily. 53:12 Speaker 4: And what do you guys 53:14 Speaker 4: recommend? 53:15 Speaker 5: All right. I can get you this 1, dude. This is obvious. Hell yeah. That was way too much to start. 100 53:21 Speaker 4: mg 53:23 Speaker 5: is 53:23 Speaker 5: like a lot and daily is a lot too. So I, so I really, I think that about like 25, I think 25 to 50 mg, 53:32 Speaker 5: 3 days a week 53:34 Speaker 5: is kind of where a person should be with sub Q NAD. 53:37 Speaker 5: Right. 53:38 Speaker 5: 100 53:39 Speaker 5: Migs to start off, dude. I'm surprised that, yeah, of course, dude, you didn't get like just the frozen and tingly, like overwhelming 53:47 Speaker 5: freak 53:48 Speaker 5: out, but you may have, but you handled it well. 53:51 Speaker 5: Yeah, because that happens. 53:53 Speaker 5: I would go, I just don't think your body, 53:56 Speaker 5: I think more isn't necessarily good at that point. It's not really doing 54:00 Speaker 5: diminishing 54:01 Speaker 5: returns. 54:03 Speaker 5: So here's what I think it's 25 mg 54:06 Speaker 5: to 50 mg. Like if you're a bigger male, Hey, we can get up towards 50 mg, 54:11 Speaker 5: 3 days a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 54:13 Speaker 5: and roll with that for a long time. Yeah. K. 54:17 Speaker 5: So there's that, dude. Your Cmax and Selank, I could you could bump those up a bit or the Cmax at least. Yeah. You said 300 mgs of each. I'd maybe, oh, 300 mgs of each and 1 to make 1 54:28 Speaker 5: MIG MOTSY morning, every morning. Correct. That's what I do. 54:32 Speaker 5: The C MAX C Lank, you could go to 500 mgs, maybe even 7 50, but I think that too is a more of as a diminishing returns and more and more you do have that isn't necessarily better. 54:43 Speaker 5: I could bump, bump those a bit up, but yeah, NAD, you are right. 54:47 Speaker 5: Drop her down. Yeah. A 100. Wow. That's a lot. I've done a lot of NAD and I've never done that much. I mean, I think he nailed it. I want to be super redundant. 54:57 Speaker 5: 5 to 50. That's like, I do it daily. I'm not doing it right now. When I do it, I take kind of use it as a coffee around 02:00. Good friend of ours suggested it and it worked great. And I would do 50. 55:08 Speaker 5: So it worked for me, but I'd been doing it for a while before I did that. So try that maybe, maybe like Will said either 3 days a week at 25 or daily. I think you could get away with it because you were doing a shit ton in the beginning. Hundreds a lot. 55:21 Speaker 4: Yeah. And then move your way up. Like you said, you're going to waste it, you know, you're gonna waste it. So don't waste it. Just 20 5 to 50 golden. 55:29 Speaker 5: That's a golden ticket. It there. All right. So I'm currently on 15 mg of tirzepatide. Okay. This is like the 55:36 Speaker 5: max dose. I want to switch to Reta as you should. We, would you guys do it? So I'm scared to regain the weight, but I'm currently on a plateau. I work out 3 days a week and I'm currently on 100 55:48 Speaker 5: Migs per week, split into 2 doses, 50 Migs and 50 Migs. Also taking CJC Ipam, 55:54 Speaker 5: 57205. 55:56 Speaker 5: I was 2 0 2 pounds before starting TRT 9 weeks ago. 56:00 Speaker 5: Okay. 56:01 Speaker 5: So I was lost 3 pounds in 9 weeks on TRT. 56:05 Speaker 5: Could it be that I'm just gaining muscle and that's why my numbers are flat going up? I went from benching 80 pounds to 150 56:12 Speaker 5: in 4 months. I started DRT and jumped to 170, 56:17 Speaker 5: 5 sets, 10 reps. My 2 rep max now is 2 0 5. I do feel stronger 56:23 Speaker 5: and have more definition, but still got a belly. Is Reta right for me or is there a different stack you would recommend? Thanks from South Florida. Alright. So 56:33 Speaker 5: obviously 56:35 Speaker 5: your the testosterone is working. 56:38 Speaker 5: Right? You've like doubled your bench press. Okay. 56:42 Speaker 5: Which is amazing. 56:44 Speaker 5: And so like, yo, 56:45 Speaker 5: my guess is that you are losing weight. You just have some water retention going down like with maybe the CGC IPA and testosterone, 56:55 Speaker 5: if you pull that water out, you might look like a 56:58 Speaker 5: this is just maybe because I can't see you, but 57:02 Speaker 5: there's a very good chance that your body is recompositioning. 57:05 Speaker 5: And because of just because of that strength gain, I have to think that you're putting muscle on. Like, duh. Right? 57:12 Speaker 5: And you and and the fact that you've lost 3 pounds. So you've lost 3 pounds 57:17 Speaker 5: and your bench rest has doubled. 57:20 Speaker 5: That means 57:21 Speaker 5: that you have probably burnt a lot of fat and gained a lot of muscle. It's the only thing I can deduce, 57:26 Speaker 5: but you don't see that. 57:28 Speaker 5: Right? 57:29 Speaker 5: Because muscle is hard to to get and you lost 3 pounds shit where we know you've gained some muscle. 57:35 Speaker 5: So I don't know. I have to think that maybe you got some water retention going on that is like hiding your 57:41 Speaker 5: good leanness from you. 57:44 Speaker 5: I would lower, I would take some REMDAX, see if that's the case. Are you experiencing any other estrogen, estrogenic side effects? Any, any acne on your shoulders, dotted out nipple sensitivity and water retention? 57:56 Speaker 5: If so, try to take some Remdex 57:59 Speaker 5: maybe 3 days a week, like a 1 pill Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 1 mg. See if it does anything. 58:06 Speaker 5: Other 58:07 Speaker 5: than that, how do you switch from Tirz to Retta? 58:11 Speaker 5: I would kind of, 58:13 Speaker 5: if I could just visually show this, you're on this much Tirzepatide is like Max. 58:18 Speaker 5: Decrease this as much as you increase this. So 58:22 Speaker 5: start with 2.5 mg of this and start with 58:27 Speaker 5: 12.5 58:28 Speaker 5: mg of this. Right? So we added 2.5, took 2.5 away and 58:33 Speaker 5: do that kind of weekly. 58:35 Speaker 5: So it's like this weekly. 58:38 Speaker 4: Yeah. So we're fully over to the Reta. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. Makes sense. That's that it's a tough 1. Mean, there's an exact sign. That's 58:46 Speaker 4: a rough 1. We've been, we come across it a lot. There's different ways that we've tried to help people. And I don't think there's an exact way so that worked So try that. 58:56 Speaker 4: Stack looks good. I mean, 58:58 Speaker 4: you could be 59:00 Speaker 4: converting to estrogen and you could try 59:02 Speaker 4: to sell us general propionate. 59:04 Speaker 4: Sip can 59:05 Speaker 4: hold some water. I mean, I don't think you're taking that much, but it's possible. 59:10 Speaker 4: So that's 1 thing you could go to the test P and 59:12 Speaker 4: that would be a little bit better, but he's 100 megs per week. That's really 59:17 Speaker 5: also just takes time, bro. Like how old are you? How long did it take you to build that belly? Right? I bet it took longer than 4 months. Yeah. Took a while. It just takes some time, dude. That's the last thing to go is your stomach. Right? Yeah. We all get lean from toes and 4 and tops ahead 1st. 59:32 Speaker 5: As we get leaner and better shape, right? Those are the things that start leaning out. Right? What's the last to go is basically your lower 59:38 Speaker 5: stomach and your love handles. Last and hardest thing. People are like, well, but my shoulders are looking lean. Yes. So are my calves. Yep. 59:46 Speaker 4: Because those get lean 1st. When we were, when I working with people like on diet mainly, 59:51 Speaker 4: a lot of people would be not losing weight because they'd get on the scale. They're so addicted to the damn scale, 59:57 Speaker 4: but I would tell them send me a picture, which I did every Friday, and then I would send that, I would do a side by side and send it to him. Now I would say, do you look different? Because you do to me. And you lose it in your belt buckle sometimes 1st. Like you didn't gain all this weight at 1 time. It's not, you know, we want, we're in humans are instant gratification. 1:00:15 Speaker 4: We want it now. 1:00:17 Speaker 4: Right? It just, it is what it is, but go just kind of stay on course to what you're doing. Now you can do some add ons to kind of expedite some of this, you know, as you do it, you can add on, you know, HGH, 1:00:27 Speaker 4: like we said, that will start to burn that belly fat too and like kind of a perpetuity type deal, 1:00:34 Speaker 4: Or if you don't want to do the HGH, a secretagogue would help or 1:00:38 Speaker 4: a 5 Amino-1MQ 1:00:40 Speaker 4: or a SLU-3.3, 1:00:42 Speaker 4: or 1:00:43 Speaker 4: any of the fat burners on top of what you're doing would do well. And there's a lot of AOD, 5 minute 1 MQ, SLU-PP-three 32. 1:00:51 Speaker 4: Those are just 2, you could do like L Carnitine and there's tons of them. So you could add a little bit on there if you want to inject less, just get the sublingual SLU and those are great. I love them. That. Yeah. 1:01:04 Speaker 5: Keep going dude. Don't know your age, but like, 1:01:08 Speaker 5: yeah, a 100 megs a 1:01:10 Speaker 5: isn't a 100 megs a week really isn't a lot. If 1:01:14 Speaker 5: we do think it is water retention, maybe try to like slowly lower your, your security dogs and then slowly increase them. You just might see something's going on. 1:01:23 Speaker 5: I don't see how you got so much stronger without 1:01:26 Speaker 5: you had to have lost, you had to have burned fat and gain a lot of muscle. All right. 1:01:30 Speaker 4: Last 1. You're up. I'm up. All right. Gentlemen, love the show. Loving the new platform. Awesome. Appreciate all that you are, you and your team do. My question is 1:01:41 Speaker 4: I'm currently taking 20 to 30 Migs daily of Adderall for ADHD 1:01:46 Speaker 4: and curious how much this could potentially overwork my system or counteract 1:01:51 Speaker 4: some of the supplements I'm using currently 1:01:54 Speaker 4: running Reta, MOTS- C, NAD, BPC, 1:01:58 Speaker 4: TB blend, Tessa, 1:01:59 Speaker 4: CJC Ipah blend, adding in GHKCU. 1:02:03 Speaker 4: Just looking to optimize things and make sure I'm 1:02:07 Speaker 4: over, I'm not overdoing it. Would love to get to a point where the Adderall is only used for high stakes days at work as needed, 1:02:16 Speaker 4: but minimally on the other days. Thanks. That's a good question. We don't have that. That's legit question. 1:02:23 Speaker 5: JD and I have experimented with our share of drugs. 1:02:27 Speaker 5: Adderall is a drug. It's an amphetamine, but 1:02:30 Speaker 5: I think that 20 to 30 mg isn't very much. 1:02:33 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1:02:36 Speaker 5: So what is Adderall? It's a stimulant. Okay. So what do we know about stimulants? It's 1:02:42 Speaker 5: basically it's tightening up all your blood vessels, so blood is not flowing as well. You feel this, like, 1:02:49 Speaker 5: of tightened shrubble up kind of feeling. It's like when you take way too much pre workout. 1:02:54 Speaker 5: So 1:02:55 Speaker 5: it's not allowing as much blood flow to go around. I almost think the biggest worry is it puts you in this. It's gonna increase your your heart rate. It just makes you age faster and puts you in this kind of a more like on edge stressful state. 1:03:09 Speaker 5: And that the less blood flow and 1:03:14 Speaker 5: it is going to decrease 1:03:16 Speaker 5: recovery a little bit. Okay? For not getting as much blood to these muscles, 1:03:21 Speaker 5: we're not getting as much nutrients and as much oxygen to them. And that 1:03:25 Speaker 5: is a slight problem, but I still think that 20 to 30 mg a day isn't that much. 1:03:31 Speaker 5: Isn't that much to really be causing a problem. Isn't that much to really be 1:03:36 Speaker 5: making you age a whole lot more? Now I would try modafinil instead of Adderall. I think we don't want to be on Adderall. Right? It is a 1:03:45 Speaker 5: there's there's some things that that are just better. 1:03:48 Speaker 5: And I don't know. I don't like the I don't like the feel of Adderall. 1:03:52 Speaker 5: I just don't like how that feels. I don't like the stimulants all by themselves. 1:03:56 Speaker 5: But if you do, good for you, but maybe even more reason to not wanna not do it because you might like it too much. But modafinil is a good replacer so is maybe Semax. 1:04:05 Speaker 5: Right? Cmax and these other nootropics 1:04:08 Speaker 5: are perfect 1:04:09 Speaker 5: for people wanting to get off of this, 1:04:12 Speaker 5: like these actual 1:04:14 Speaker 5: narcotic stimulants. 1:04:15 Speaker 1: So 1:04:16 Speaker 5: I don't think it's that bad, but I think you're a 100% right with trying to get rid of it, get it off of you, 1:04:22 Speaker 5: get out of you, 1:04:23 Speaker 5: and do less and less. And I do think it's impeding, you know, results a little bit, mostly in the recovery end 1:04:30 Speaker 5: because of less blood flow. So like, you know, when people get pre workouts and they get a pre workout that's 1:04:35 Speaker 5: ultra high stim and ultra high pump, 1:04:38 Speaker 5: like, sorry guys, it's just a marketing deal because those counteract each other. Right? The high stim is gonna re is gonna constrict blood vessels. The high pump is gonna try and open them. So if you just blast this thing full of both, 1:04:50 Speaker 5: we're, we're, what vessels are same size. 1:04:53 Speaker 5: It's not helpful. So, 1:04:55 Speaker 5: I don't know. This is an extra little bit of info, but that's yeah. What you got? All 1:05:00 Speaker 4: right. I'm going to go a little bit different. I'm going to I'm big on abstinence on that stuff, man. I'm obviously sober and I've been through a lot of stiff shit, as you say. 1:05:09 Speaker 4: I think we could really start to reboot our mind once we do some things that can replace that, which is like meditation, 1:05:16 Speaker 4: helping 1:05:17 Speaker 4: people like those things center us and they center our souls. Now they take work. 1:05:22 Speaker 4: You're probably thinking you need the Adderall, right? Whether you do or you don't, you do think that and 1:05:27 Speaker 4: you can break the cycle and you can replace what you think that you need with other things that are a lot more healthy. 1:05:35 Speaker 4: So again, I'm going to do that route with you, man. 1:05:38 Speaker 4: Peptides are going to be great. Do I think it's hindering you? Yeah, I think so. I think any type of narcotic or like alcohol is going to not let those shine as well. You're spending a lot of money. Why don't you get the best bang for your buck? 1:05:51 Speaker 4: And why don't you try this? Why don't you try to get off at or off? You can't. You might need to. Let's just like get really to the jugular. But again, 1:05:59 Speaker 4: to get somewhat AA on your recovery, 1:06:04 Speaker 4: you can find so much peace that we don't find by helping other people by 1:06:09 Speaker 4: just doing for others and not looking for anything in return. 1:06:13 Speaker 4: You know, like I said, meditation 1:06:15 Speaker 4: and just breaking the old cycle of the thing that you think that you need, because 1:06:21 Speaker 4: I'm under the belief that God knows what he's doing, and I don't think any of us necessarily need narcotics in any form. Now, there will be some exceptions, of course, schizophrenic 1:06:32 Speaker 4: and all that stuff. I don't know much about that stuff. Anyways, 1:06:35 Speaker 4: there's exceptions to every rule, but that's my take, man. We're sober. We talk about it all the time. I'm just a huge fan of abstinence in all forms, 1:06:44 Speaker 4: and you can replace that drug with something that will be a lot better. If you have any more questions, use the DM. We'd love to talk to you. Yeah. Everybody else check out the school app. It's K O 0 L. I think that we'll put a 1:06:57 Speaker 1: link under. Yeah. If you guys love it, this podcast, 1:07:00 Speaker 4: you guys will love it. I mean, it's like the people are just 1:07:04 Speaker 4: rallying around each other, lifting each other. There's been a couple of dickheads on there. We boot them off. We're very clear. There's no marketing of it. Our platform is you're not going to come and market anything. We 1:07:14 Speaker 4: answer questions, you give your experience and we, it's just, there's strength in numbers types and you'll enjoy it. Plus we have all the dosage protocols on there. 1:07:23 Speaker 5: We'll keep that for every time. We're all, we're 1:07:28 Speaker 5: we're adding different like conditions, 1:07:30 Speaker 5: different protocols for all types of different conditions that people go through, 1:07:34 Speaker 5: You know, different 1:07:36 Speaker 5: stacks based on who you are, what you need, 1:07:39 Speaker 5: and that are pretty in-depth that nobody else is putting out there. So yeah, a lot of good resources out there. Stuff. 1:07:45 Speaker 4: Next week, I don't know. We haven't decided what we're gonna do for the pep 10 of the week. We record that on Friday, 1:07:51 Speaker 4: and, I guess we'll see you then. 1:07:53 Speaker 5: Good night.