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1:45Speaker 2calls me and says, Hey, we're gonna go they're in Washington state, right, where I was born and raised. And my sister
1:50Speaker 2calls me and says, Me and my husband are gonna go down to talk to dad and about his like end of life plans.
2:00Speaker 2Alright, cool. And then she tells me, oh, it's okay. He was organized. We'll get him a house cleaner because he just is getting them too old, like pick up after himself really well. And then my dad calls me the next day and he's like, well, your sister and her husband talked me into moving down there to Southern California next to you.
2:30Speaker 2for a long time when I was just like from nothing. Right? So as much of a pain in the ass as it's going to be with you close to me, like I owe it to you and I will do it with
2:42Speaker 2That's rad bro. That's the thing. Now he's not gonna live with me. Yeah. So below. We will put him, but yeah. So that might just happen.
2:51Speaker 3That is crazy to think that, I mean, that's where we're at. My dad's 75. I was we used to we went to breakfast on Saturday ironically, and we
2:58Speaker 3talked about his age and I was like, I caught up to that. Was like, damn. Yeah, that's right. Oh, dude, he's getting old. It's getting Yeah, they're getting old. I think it was a little tough spot in my
3:13Speaker 2like as a little kid, your parents were just like the rock, right? Like they can, they are the stable people and they will, if you're in trouble or whatever, they're there to fix you. Then when you get to a point where they're starting to be more frail and,
3:30Speaker 2that was kind of a, I don't know, eye opener. I'd be like, They're not invincible. Yeah. They're not invincible. And maybe I'm,
3:55Speaker 3a physical higher help in case when shit hits the fan. Yeah. It's always a perspective though. Like, so that's great. You're thinking that because like my mom passed when I 20. Yeah. This is what you get, kid. They don't have an option. You know? So like people that still have parents, take care of them. Take, yeah. I'd love to say 1 more thing to my mom, man. So take care of your parents for the love of God, people. Good thing on you, bro. Good stuff. Anyways, that's what's kind of new. So, but we'll see That's what it'll cool, man. It'll be fun. My dad's, my dad's,
4:19Speaker 2he's cool. He drinks a lot. So he'll, he'll go fast and that's been always his problem, but he's never been like a mean drunk. 2 can turn him at the very end and get him into a seat and be able to see for you. 5 But maybe hell, to meet friends. I've seen some people that were like, there's no way he's going to heal and he doesn't. I know. Wow. We've taken him, my sisters tried to get him to like, so when I was in treatment,
4:40Speaker 2they have the parents, you know, this like go through like the family program, right? And my sister's like, oh, this would be great. Let's have him go through the family program.
4:48Speaker 2And so we're at lunch after I got out, and he she's like, alright. Hey, what did you what did you learn? Do you learn anything about yourself, maybe? Going to this? He goes, yeah. I need to go to Al Anon for Will for sure.
5:16Speaker 3Q and A episode. Man, I gotta rub my hands. I picked up on this. I'm noticing I do that constantly. I don't know why I do that. So I'm gonna stop. I'm working on it. All my pockets. But anyways, I'm excited about this. We love doing this. And let's jump in, dude. Let's rock and roll. Cool. All right, that'll get going. So number 1, hey guys, 1st off, love the podcast. It's become a new obsession. Beautiful. That's cool. New to the peptide industry and just looking for some advice. 40 years old firefighter
5:45Speaker 2Canada. You know, anyway, I just had a distal bicep tendon repair surgery this morning, 03/09/2026.
5:56Speaker 2in 10 to 14 days. I wanted to ask your opinion on the best pod ties to take to aid in recovery and possible dosages as well. Should I start taking them right away or wait a few days? Once I'm back to the gym and in a good form, you'll a 100% be getting more questions from me.
6:12Speaker 2I just saw a video of JD on Instagram, dude, you jacked. And now I want to look like you. Thanks in advance for the advice and motivation and inspiration.
6:26Speaker 3you know, if you followed my channels or whatever, you know, well, I both feel like this. You know, men are supposed to be the leaders, providers, protectors, all that stuff. And I think men have kind of let some of that stuff go by letting them self go. But I believe that, you know,
6:41Speaker 3you get in shape, watch how many people you inspire to get in shape. And I believe that's how rad life is. You know, iron sharpens iron man. Like you watch how many of your friends
6:50Speaker 3get in shape. I can't even tell you when I started doing the carnivore, people were like, you're gonna die from cholesterol. And then everybody, I had every 1 of my friends soon quickly after because I got ripped and they're like, can we tell me a little bit about this carnivore thing? They were. We would try to, we would go to parties at your house or at other people's houses. Who would bring you meat? Well, yeah, like the the catering would be
7:20Speaker 2But that's rad man, you want me to take this 1? Well, I think, I mean, okay, so like here's the deal, dude, we have discussed this and I think here
7:29Speaker 2is what I would do and what we have done, what JD has done actually post surgery, like so BPC
7:40Speaker 2actually and tissue repairs. Those are the best things possible. There's some other stuff that we, you know, GHK-
7:47Speaker 2more of like a skin type healer, but BPC-one hundred 57 is going to help with angiogenesis,
7:54Speaker 2which blood is life, right? So that's going to help heal things. It is going to allow your body to create more collagen from all the food that you eat. It's going to signal where to put that collagen, right? Because it knows wherever is hurting and needs to be rebuilt,
8:13Speaker 2is just going to boost the hell out of your stem cell production and like the healing power of those stem cells to get you back in. The combination of those 2,
8:27Speaker 2can chime in, but like, dude, I would do, you just had the surgery, I'd go high doses right now and I would inject not into the open wound, but like,
8:43Speaker 2And if money is no object, would do 5 mg. I would do what JD did 15 mg of each, But like, I would minimum post surgery for a month, at least this is minimum, like 2 mg of each. Yeah. 1. For sure. Daily into
9:10Speaker 2those tell your body to create more growth hormone. What's growth hormone do? It helps repair,
9:14Speaker 2recover, and rebuild everything in your body and you will heal faster and stronger, 3 but do not,
9:20Speaker 2don't miss out on the Wolverine for sure. Just blast high doses. Can't overdose on it. Pretty
9:26Speaker 3much sum that up. I love it. Like I've heard it. I don't know where people pick ups. I'm assuming there's always going to be new people. So some of this will be redundant for some, but it's the 1 peptide I think Will and I both will choose. You know, there's some right after that we would wish we kind of had if we didn't, like Wolverine will be there just because it works so freaking good, man. It healed me so fast. My
10:04Speaker 3Blast it. You will expedite the healing. You can't take too much of that dude. Yeah. I think what was, what was it? You were taking
10:12Speaker 3mg a bottle. I took a bottle. I think it was a 10 mg. Don't think I had the 30 mg. I think it was the 10 mg and I took 3 bottles in the morning and 2 at night. I was like, when Paul told me that I was like, woah.
10:28Speaker 3mg each. There were the 10 mg runs, not 5. I'm pretty sure it was a 10 mg and then 4 bottles the next day, 3 bottles the next day, 2 bottles, and then 1. And then I was running like a full bottle for, I think like 2 weeks after or something. I don't remember the exact, but the big, the point was the saturation and just right after the surgery and it worked really good.
10:58Speaker 3I don't always remember because it's not always hurting. Then as soon as I stop, they hurt. So I, you know, I'm trying to, and then I do, I do try to like lean back
11:08Speaker 3a little bit of my back just to try to, just to try to make sure I don't ever have a surgery again. I'm not going to say that's going to stop it. If a disc goes out of disc goes out, but it'll help.
11:20Speaker 3The good stuff. Hope you heal well, man. So happy you have your own community. Now we forgot to tell you guys, we have our warrior
11:29Speaker 3makers community. We have man, my, our team, we have the, I'm not saying this. I'm just, I'm being honest. Our team at Warrior Makers is the best damn team ever. Know, we are very, very choosy on who we hire. We're very choosy that they will all be cohesive and they have our same beliefs and stuff. It's been great because everybody here has worked their butt off for this Warrior Maker platform. We started on 1 and we figured out that was not the right move. Just 1
11:57Speaker 3of our guys just hammered out a new 1 on school. And so we're up and running on that. It's really, we're just trying to bring people in where we can kind of be a little bit more upfront on protocols,
12:09Speaker 3kind of just, you know, we're, it's our platform, so we're able to say things a little bit more direct where we don't have to tiptoe around so much on social medias. It is what it is. You know, that's part of life. And whether I agree with it or not, it's not my company so they can do what they do.
12:27Speaker 3and how people are making comments and lifting each other up and it's been amazing. So if you're not on it, it's on school and
12:34Speaker 2you will love it. Yeah, we can post- Alright. I'm sure we could post the information on at the bottom. Yep, we'll put it on there. And
12:46Speaker 2every time- And we will. You log in, I mean, hopefully you're doing it daily. It's basically a social media platform,
12:58Speaker 2just really fill in everybody with all the knowledge that we know and the experts knowledge that we have contacted- Come here for us and do the podcast. Absolutely. We
13:07Speaker 3did a 7 minute video on just testosterone replacement, just some of the oils. What's the difference between the oils? Why?
13:20Speaker 3sometime, and I switch it up in regards to that stuff. Sometimes I'll do test SIP, sometimes I've even done test E and then I've done a lot of test P lately. I've been really liking the test P, but I tell why. So it's on there. You can check it out on the Warrior Makers platform and stuff.
13:35Speaker 3I forgot to say that. All right, cool. So we got so happy you have your own community. Love all the knowledge and passion you share. Can you provide some guidance on SNAP-eight protocol? I'd like to target some loose skin on the tummy and thighs. Also assuming injection is more efficient
13:59Speaker 2all of these peptides are, well, almost all of them are all like research peptides and there's still a whole bunch of more research that needs to be done, which is beautiful for anybody out there taking them, though you are the R and D force.
14:15Speaker 2Where the, Like well, the research, not the development portion, but the research is the only way it gets done. So here's the thing, with the SNAP-eight, like, it only really works locally.
14:26Speaker 2is very, very, very closely related to like botulinum toxin or however you say it, which is Botox.
14:38Speaker 2okay? And that's why your face freezes. It's basically just like paralyzing your face. This
14:56Speaker 2it won't develop wrinkles and actually it helps with some collagen uptake to fill in some of those wrinkles.
15:12Speaker 2probably more effective. So you did say, Hey, I assume that the injection is better. I think for this 1,
15:34Speaker 2We can also tell you what the best serum is, is we have tried and then made some custom
15:53Speaker 2and 30 bottles of SNAP-8s used to make 20 ml serum. 20 bottles, you said. 20 bottles. A deep bottle. Super dark blue. Super dark blue, and it really works. People are selling these at, like,
16:25Speaker 2Guys who I use it too. It's not just women, but blue magic, blue goddess. But I'd use the answer, snap eights, probably best Yeah. In a serum and apply it topically and also do it with GHK-two.
16:43Speaker 2and VIP. And I have a question. I'm a type 2 diabetic on TRT at 200 mgs a week, as well as Mounjaro
17:01Speaker 2sounds like what I want to help build more muscle and wanted to get your opinion on that as well as dosage.
17:11Speaker 2has some belly fat from her previous C section, and is starting to exercise, and it sounds like this would help her out really well. Thank you for any info and help.
17:19Speaker 3Actually, you want me to run that? Yeah, go ahead. But I also have answers, but I'll add on. Yeah, it's free. I think the IGF-one is great. When it comes, we've said this, but when it comes to baptized, you're not going to get, you know, anything near any type of gear or anything. I mean, you're going to diet, lifting weights, eating, that's going be your best thing to
17:38Speaker 3gain. But the IGF-one will work after lifting, I think. I've kind of experienced some of that stuff. So I would lift and then take the IGF-one.
18:08Speaker 3think you could take 2 weeks off and do it again, but some people might want to take 4 weeks off, but that's generally Now, again, just to be redundant for a reason, this is just recommended. You can try to go outside of that box and just see how your body responds. That's how we do it. And
18:24Speaker 3then that's kind of the best way. It comes to your bride. SLU-3s great. I love it. I think it's amazing.
18:30Speaker 3I think that she could get more bang for her buck if you're only going to do 1 peptide, which is very simply to go right to the king of the castle, which is Retatrutide.
18:38Speaker 3Why would you not? If it's just because maybe she doesn't want to inject, I get that. But once you do it once, you'll be like, that's nothing. And then she'll want to do it again. Even though SLU-3P is great,
18:49Speaker 3nothing compares to the king daddy of burning fat and just burning weight off you like Retatrut. So I would just get to the jugular and go right there, my brother. So hope that helps. You're out the go. Yeah, dude. So
19:00Speaker 2your dosing on, so did you ask a question about the TRT? So 200 mg is great. Okay. That's your TOT dose. Yes. IGF-1LR-three
19:15Speaker 2JD said this, be careful as a diabetic, as a type 2 diabetic, right? It can kind of alter your body's glucose handling. All right? So
19:30Speaker 2can increase blood sugar a little bit. I would imagine most diabetics do that. Yeah, and my guess is that hopefully you know how to handle yourself and listen to your body, but just, you know, do your own due diligence
19:43Speaker 2on that, but it's the best thing. And like Judy said, I'd say 8 weeks max. Right? You don't really wanna run it that long.
19:49Speaker 2And like his dosages, right, I would it's usually comes in 1 mg bottle. So IGF-one LR 31 mg bottle.
20:02Speaker 2and 10 units will give you 100 micrograms. I'd start there. Make sure you eat a little
20:13Speaker 2And post workout is the best. Basically, it's it is the nutrient partitioning is the 1 is the big deal or IGF-4s.
20:20Speaker 2So like you work out, you tear your muscle down, now your muscle's like a sponge. Right? It goes, damn, I wasn't strong enough to do what you asked me to do, so I wanna build bigger and stronger,
20:30Speaker 2but it needs food. So you work out, eat some protein with maybe 20 grams of carbs, fast acting carbs right after that workout and the IGF-1LR-three,
20:47Speaker 2That's how it that's in a simplified way and how it works, and it is the best for that. SLUIP, I can't think SLUIP will be good kind of for anti
20:59Speaker 2metabolism and nutrient partitioning and helping with endurance. I think Reta is the more effective
21:13Speaker 0Yeah. If you're gonna do 1 though. If you're gonna do one- Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes, 0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your work out and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes.
21:43Speaker 2yeah, depends on the symptoms. Everybody has, you know, has different symptoms of menopause, but there's a peptide cut for a lot of these things.
22:03Speaker 2think on that too. That's always the hardest part to leave. The hardest fat to burn is the belly fat. Obviously like how much weight? So if it's like, you know,
22:20Speaker 3All right. Good morning, gentlemen. I am 30 year old male, father of 2. I recently got my hormones checked and my total test was 3
22:28Speaker 312. Pretty typical these days. And free was 8. Woah, you must be tired. And my E2 was low normal. However, the symptoms of fatigue, low drive are prevalent. I decided to run a TRT protocol myself and my doctor agreed follow-up
22:55Speaker 3if my blood work comes back good, is it a good idea to go up in dosing? I currently take 3 megs a week and would like to get my testosterone levels to high end of normal.
23:06Speaker 3Any advice would be great and thank you and stuff. You want me to take Yeah, go ahead. Mean, yeah. Yeah,
23:12Speaker 3I think that if your doctor recommended, that's great. You know, he's telling you to inject 3 times a week. I don't think most doctors do that. Now,
23:24Speaker 3it's all subjective to how you feel, how your numbers are gonna come back. And that's going to take a little while. You're not going to find that after your 1st blood test, you're going to feel better.
23:34Speaker 3And it's going to really take a little while to find your sweet spot and probably a few months until you know what your exact dosing is. But
23:43Speaker 3the 120 is definitely on the low side. You can always go up, but to be honest with you, brother, to like get to the point you just
23:53Speaker 3figure it out. Like should you go up? What does the blood work say? And then even more so, how do you feel?
24:00Speaker 3Right? You have free testosterone of 8, so you must be really tired, dude. And you must have a really low sex drive. So that's an easy fix. You're going to fix that part. That's just the cherry on top of testosterone.
24:13Speaker 3There is a boatload of all these other things that are so much more even important than that. So you're going to feel great, my friend, take it slow and kind of keep reporting back, man. We'll give you some of our opinions on some of that stuff, But
24:28Speaker 2Get it up, how you feel. And again, like, so everybody has a different, I don't know, how they feel at a certain
24:51Speaker 2Because that's where I want to be, that's where I feel good. I think this is about the same for JD.
24:55Speaker 2I think anything over 1000, you're probably a little high for just like a TOT dose because, hey, if your test gets that high, then we start making too much estrogen.
25:08Speaker 2you know, because it's sluggish and blood thickens a bit and I can almost just feel it.
25:14Speaker 2Obviously the estrogen side effects are going to go up and then now I've to take the AI
25:30Speaker 3Because don't get caught up on the level. Don't get caught up on like what the number is. Like, don't go, well, I'm at 09:50
25:41Speaker 3Like again, like I know like around 900 to give or take 45 on my free is where I feel the best. That's just taking me a while, you know?
25:49Speaker 2But you can't take that as you're going to feel the same way as I did because you're totally different. This is- I know people who feel awesome at 600 for definitely that's cool. Right on. They get to take less.
26:16Speaker 2an answer for the next question or or later down the road. Yeah. Alright. Love it. Next 1. Hey, guys. Love the podcast. You both have been incredibly helpful
26:24Speaker 2through my peptide journey. I started TRT 6 months ago. My wife was pregnant, so I wasn't worried about the effects from the TRT. Unfortunately, we lost the baby. I'm sorry. Oh man, that sucks.
26:35Speaker 2My recent blood work showed my luteinizing hormone is very low. We wanted to start trying again. My question is, should I stop the TRT and get on HCG?
26:44Speaker 2I know that's supposed to increase testosterone and help with fertility. I apologize if you have already touched on this topic. I appreciate your time and keep up the great work. So we have touched on this before and no problem, dude. I understand there's
27:04Speaker 2to conceive while you're on TRT. Okay? Everybody let's let's let that be known. Just because you're on testosterone,
27:10Speaker 2that is not a, like, guaranteed birth control pill. I know people who've been running trends for 9 months and got their own pregnancy list. But
27:18Speaker 2then again, I've known people who ran testosterone once and it's been really, really hard
27:29Speaker 2people who've tried and then said, all right, fine, lowered it, lowered it, and then finally came off and then a couple months later, got pregnant.
27:39Speaker 2Okay, so, but here's what I would do for sure. Either way, if you wanna get off What I am personally doing is lowering
28:18Speaker 2we realize that, and actually, even if, when we're just boosting that natural test, it does carry over to the fertility side. So,
28:26Speaker 2and we know people who have tried, tried, tried, then added HCG and bam, they got pregnant.
28:51Speaker 21000 IUs, Try it 2, 3 times a week. Yeah. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. And then there's finally HMG,
28:57Speaker 2which is usually used as kind of a last resort. It's really expensive. You're doing like a full bus 75 IUs 3 times a week, 1 bottle of 75 IUs. Yeah.
29:15Speaker 2not HGH, but an HGH secretagogue, but it tells brain to say, Hey, boost up the pituitary to make more down here. But that gets shut off if you're on TRT. It will not work. The brain goes, Wait, no, no, no. I got enough tests. I'm not going to work. All of the other ones I mentioned bypass the brain and just go straight to the testes and tell them to go.
29:37Speaker 3just to clarify that, you can't stay on TRT, it won't work. So you'd have to come up with TRT. Regardless, you better do very small doses of Kisspeptin folks.
29:46Speaker 2More is not the answer on Kisspeptin and will in fact do the opposite. It's actually being used to like reduce
30:01Speaker 3better ways and more effective. Enclomiphene ACG run it. Yeah. I mean, there's been so many people that we've talked with that. I've never done the Enclomiphene side, but we've helped people to do that. I mean, I've just very simply have stayed on TRT. Haven't changed my doses. I didn't come down.
30:15Speaker 3I stayed at 180 and I literally very simply just took 1000 IUs Monday, Wednesday, Friday. It took about, ironically about 9 months each time,
30:26Speaker 2I didn't change anything except for that. Yep. Oh, the, your girl can take Kisspeptin. Yeah. That actually will help small doses.
31:13Speaker 3more, to be honest with you. But then we kind of caught up to that, I think, which was the truth, which if you have type 1 diabetes, you have to be It's life and death. So you
31:23Speaker 3up and you tracked out stuff. But no, we're going to recommend against it just because you can have an unpredictable glucose spike.
31:32Speaker 3Just to be blunt, no, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even mess with it. Just don't. It's just not,
31:42Speaker 2There's a reason you can't find. The reason you can't find anything on type 1 diabetes because you
32:05Speaker 3it sucks because it would definitely help them, but we want to keep them alive. Yeah. So good
32:13Speaker 2There's a few, there's a lot of other baptized that he can take 3 to help him lose weight.
32:31Speaker 2the number 1 thing I would do for sure. Yeah. I had some serious type 1 diabetes. That's the 1st thing. Hell yeah.
32:40Speaker 3I find, I found, I've done pretty much most diets and I've done them pretty well because I'm pretty disciplined when I do them.
32:50Speaker 3I'll be great. It feels harder for me. You really have to track your macros, which I hate doing. Where a carnivore, you don't because you don't eat sugar and you don't really eat glucose. You eat meat,
33:00Speaker 3fat, and eggs. So maybe just start there and see how he does because you just know you can, this is what you can eat, this little bucket and nothing else. And I know that sounds hard, but as long as he likes steak and ground beef,
33:12Speaker 3you'll be good. Thought it was gonna be harder. Remember when I Joe Rogan talked about it before I did it for specific reasons for some health stuff. I was like, wow, that would be crazy. Eating meat, that's it? And then meat's not the star. It's fat.
33:37Speaker 2I think that what you said earlier is like the best way to go, dude, it's like, okay, hey, let's get used to eating some things the same, but also just make it easy and simple on yourself. Totally. 1st of all, if you're trying to go on a keto day and you're trying to go, gosh, what if if you're trying to calculate how much carbs can I possibly eat, like, that's a wrong mindset? It sucks. Just
33:54Speaker 2don't even the good just just don't eat any bars and stuff are not do not. Yeah. Don't listen to any of that marketing stuff that's on any bars. I'll say keto bars Keto friendly. 20 grams of carbs in it. And
34:11Speaker 2But what I would do literally is go, all right, here are my protein sources. And I would just pick 5 that I know that are good on my wallet that I can cook and I can deal with it. Right? I would say, Hey, I got so you're not trying to get
34:24Speaker 2fancy with all of your meals and like, I just try to, like you said, just put it I got 5 protein sources and maybe that's too many. Okay? You wanna do 3, right? Well, I want chicken,
34:41Speaker 2carb sources if we're for this is just like on a basic meal plan. If we're trying to eat small frequent meals, you know, just make life easier.
34:48Speaker 2Pick 5 to choose from, pick 3 to choose from. We got fat sources, pick 2 to choose from and just go different combinations of all those. Okay? The carbs is not the keto part. I'm just saying in general, simplifying
35:01Speaker 2And yeah, when he said carnivore is keto, he's just saying there is just no possibility of carbs in carb.
35:14Speaker 2And it makes it just takes that option off the table. And that's the mindset you wanna be in anyway. Oh, yeah.
35:23Speaker 2Alright. I think here we go. Hey, man. I love the show. Keep up the good work. Is that right? Yeah.
35:39Speaker 2pre and post workout? My thoughts is that I'm trying to continue to grow with the fat loss expedited. I understand you'd love Tesamorelin, but I have available access to CJC on hand, it's convenient. Would love the insight,
35:53Speaker 2Hell yeah, dude. I think, I mean, my quick answer is I would, there is no problem. It is definitely not pointless. Yeah. And there's no, like,
36:14Speaker 33. Yeah, just because you're taking a secretagogue doesn't mean you can't take the IGF-one. Those things, that kind of works downstream. It doesn't,
36:21Speaker 2the secretagogues work way upstream when the manufacturing process, the IGF-one skips all of that and just
36:36Speaker 3It was great. In the muscle? I haven't done as much research on that as I probably need to dig into that, but some people think that if you inject the IGF-one right into the muscle you just lift it on, it helps. Helps.
36:48Speaker 2High. Glad you didn't really lead me there, so I haven't dug into that much. Because it's modified
36:55Speaker 2a longer period of time. It's not just super duper fast acting. Like it goes into your bicep, for example,
37:01Speaker 2and cool for a few minutes, it might start to build muscle there, but it really kind of systemically
37:12Speaker 2that's a super fast acting 1. That would make more sense in the muscle. You just need to inject it more frequently throughout the day.
37:26Speaker 2I think what you're doing, what you just said is probably your best bet. Yeah. You said you have excess.
37:41Speaker 3had so many people bring it up and the sleeping part has been rough for me. I think it's amazing. It really helps with that burning fat, but it affects my sleep. So I have not taken it. Now, another thing I think Will and I both kind of, you know, we continue to grow and like we learn and like we'll never stop and we're going to continue. And I can't even believe, I can't even think when we're being a year because like now we do this for a living and we get to talk about this all day.
38:08Speaker 3HGH in the morning and then a secretagogue at night, we are big fans of that. I have recently kind of, well, both of us, I think, I only talk for you, but we don't
38:17Speaker 3think that it does as much as we thought it did. So I'm not even taking a secretagog at night. I mean, I've tempered down a lot of my peptides anyways, but when I run the HGH,
38:26Speaker 3I don't, don't, I'd always thought I needed to take a secretagog at night and I don't know, my opinion on that has changed a bit. I would definitely go with the king of the castle in that category, which is the HGH.
38:49Speaker 3I had read a lot about it and we've talked about it long before this happened. And like, I just wasn't a fan of it because of some of the stuff I read.
38:56Speaker 3And then I'm like, I haven't done it. Let me just try it. So I think I took 5 shots and then I took like my 5th shot and I was just like, boom,
39:05Speaker 3rash. I mean, to, from the, it was like such a split 2nd that I couldn't believe it happened that fast. And I was like, holy shit. I kind of felt a little weird.
39:17Speaker 3you know, my wife tries different things. I'd had her on Tesamorelin and I wanted to switch that up for her. And I gotta be honest with you. I did, I had no
39:24Speaker 3part of me thought that she was going to have a reaction just because I thought it just is rare,
39:33Speaker 3Like I inject her and then I went around the corner and she was going to put my son around and she came out and her lips were huge.
39:43Speaker 3it was, it scared the shit out of me. Almost took her to the hospital. Oh, because my bride, you know, and so I don't want to scare you away from CJC,
39:52Speaker 3my wife and I both had a reaction and we're pretty good at peptides. Have a lot of experience.
40:07Speaker 2happened to my wife and I know it's pretty rare. I've heard it from a lot of people like basically CJC
40:48Speaker 2and whatever, because of its structure, our body rarely, really recognizes that guy as
40:54Speaker 2not us and attacks it. And it happens to quite a few people. And I've heard of people throwing up and feeling
41:09Speaker 2I wouldn't do it anymore. Everybody's telling you don't do it. Allergic reactions, they just got to get worse with time.
41:16Speaker 2You're over, like worried about it, dude, like you can just take a, have an allergy pill, maybe like take that 5 minutes before you do the injection. Yeah. That's good. And
41:27Speaker 2these autoimmune disorders kind of originate in the gut. Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes,
41:33Speaker 00 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes.
41:45Speaker 3And if KPV is on board and actually does help. That's all I had. I didn't have an anti antihistamine, so you just have KPV.
41:54Speaker 2the problem with the HGH in the morning and then the secreted Gog, especially the growth hormone releasing
42:05Speaker 2CGC-twelve 95 is the pituitary is the 1 you're telling, Hey, pituitary, let's make more growth. If you're doing exogenous growth, your pituitary goes, Nope, I already got a bunch. And therefore the secretagogue
42:23Speaker 2stimulate it because I have a lot. Therefore it's just kind of a waste of money. Now, Ipamorelin
42:41Speaker 2even more so. So there's no problem with There's no problem on the other side. It's just, it may not be that effective. The Teslas Sermorelin, CJC,
42:50Speaker 2if you're doing regular growth hormone in the morning. But Ipamorelin, absolutely, that'll help with everything. If you're not in exchange, then you're good. You guys have inspired me to try SLU-332.
43:10Speaker 2vials of 5 mg lyophilized powder of the SLU-two and I'm having trouble reconstituting it. Yep. I tried 3 mils Hospira bacteriostatic
43:24Speaker 2mLs of DMSO after some research guided me in that direction to dissolve the powder 1st completely and then added 2.7
43:49Speaker 2like acetic acid, glycerol, and I think the acetic acid percentage you're looking for is 0.9%.
44:18Speaker 2with glycerol. If you want to message us, we can give you some sourcing recommendations
44:40Speaker 3I've done them both and I just because it's 1 less job, I actually lean towards that myself.
44:52Speaker 2got that down. Yeah. But I mean, really sublingual is kind of proven to be like the most effective route for sure. Yeah.
45:20Speaker 3So anything I could do further help sound very interesting. Do you have any further information on the effectiveness
45:36Speaker 2go start off and then tell them what you think and I can help. I can add in. Do you want me to go? Yeah, go ahead. So
46:09Speaker 3So that would be my recommendation. I think that you would really like that. I think I'll do a lot for you. So, and I agree that the, so the Selank is like an angeolytic,
46:41Speaker 2it is being tested and doing some trials on PTSD patients, but really it was more on like traumatic brain injuries
47:15Speaker 2Now I do know I would run, I would do it and I would shit, I would go for maybe a month straight.
47:26Speaker 2in my, in our pep time of the week, we are alerted. I think I would take a little higher dose of Dihexa than I
47:40Speaker 2you will, you might actually just feel that. I have talked to lots of people since and really absolutely feel focused. And that's really going to help heal the connections of neurons, right? The synapses,
48:02Speaker 2You might just be go, damn, I need to take that. There's not, there's even less data on that 1, but PE 22, 28,
48:30Speaker 2may not be the best for somebody with anxiety because it's going to boost your norepinephrine,
48:37Speaker 3Right? So that might not be good for that. Yeah. I wouldn't start with that. I would say, I've tried those other ones you said that was great. I thought that was a good attack. That was good. And like I said, like I said, like just try them and then you can always stop if like shit. Yeah. There's no rebound. There's no negative rebounds like literally any of these.
48:54Speaker 3You're so dude, try them like PT is that is a bit. I mean, It's a bitch. So that sucks. You don't wanna live like that, so I would be doing everything I possibly can. I I would like to take a left turn real quick and just kinda give you some advice for whatever that's worth. You know? I think God noticed what he's doing, so he kinda created us to kind of heal heal ourselves, which what I mean by that is,
49:16Speaker 3you remember you've heard that guy, Chris Kyle, he was the guy that was the sniper and then he had PTSD. And I know that's not your life, but he had PTSD.
49:24Speaker 3And how he ended up fixing it before he unfortunately got shot, but how he ended up fixing it was he started helping people. He started helping people with PTSD
49:32Speaker 3and showing them that you could live a life and it was like a circle of just life, helping people and then they help people and then you help people and you keep helping people. I think God created us to help. I think God created us to try to fix problems.
49:45Speaker 3And I think we can, and then we turn around and help other people fix problems. And when we do that kind of in perpetuity where that's your life, where you're helping people,
49:55Speaker 3I believe God puts his hand on it. Will and I are both guys that know that. Like we were to a degree of train wreck, you know, now like we do do pretty well, but we are giving, we try to be integral and we always
50:07Speaker 3say yes, if somebody asks for help and there is a peace and a calmness that comes in my opinion, I'm not getting religious on you, but I am, that comes from God.
50:21Speaker 3And the only times I have felt it is when I'm helping another person without any expectation of reciprocity.
50:33Speaker 2But yes, we have lived a life and the only way that we've gotten better and had our together is by helping
50:43Speaker 3If it doesn't convene you, it's you mean inconvenience to you is not helping the people. If you're not inconvenienced, you're not doing it. Right? Right.
50:51Speaker 3Try that, man. Try try that. Go walk on a beach, go put your walk, take your shoes off, walk by in the grass like we're connected to the earth, man. That's calmness. Alright,
50:59Speaker 3man. Your last. Last 1. So my wife is 25 woman 25 and suffers from severe endometriosis.
51:07Speaker 3She already has her 2nd operation because that shit grows fast. In addition, she suffers from permanent reflux.
51:27Speaker 3Well, I'm going to start her on Clo, great idea, in the hope to get that damn chronic inflammation down until it arrives. We start with a 1 mg of BPC daily. Do you have any further ideas what peptides we could use
51:51Speaker 3Awesome. It really gives me strength and energy and hope to listen to you. Best regards from Austria.
51:59Speaker 2Yeah. Mozart not with the from Mozart not kangaroos. I get it. Wow. That's funny, man.
52:10Speaker 3Is Arnold Schwarzenegger. Hell yeah. The man. We got him hanging up right there, baby.
52:17Speaker 2So I can give you some, so here are some things I would a 100% try. So the goal is to reduce inflammation,
52:27Speaker 2like gut health too. Like autoimmune inflammation is all, well, not all, but oftentimes
52:36Speaker 2I would, I'd would throw everything at it. It sounds like this is like a serious issue and she's over dealing with this stuff and it's time to attack it. So frankly, I'd be doing it like 2 Migs of BPC
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54:34Speaker 3another like left turn, I get bad acid reflux to the degree like, dude, like it's horrible. I don't, it's just horrible. I've cop up food.
54:44Speaker 3What has worked for me? I take a medication now that's I've been on it, it's been helping me, but what has worked for me in the past,
54:54Speaker 3carbs is what did it. I eat carbs, like if I would, even when I was doing the carnivore, I would every 6 week do a carb reload. Oh my God, that night it was hell. I'd be coughing up shit like, oh dude, I'd why'd I do this?
55:07Speaker 3So try that. Just see, I mean, the carbs is what seemed to be the problem and the culprit for the
55:15Speaker 3So you could try to have her maybe do the carnivore for a month and just see if that helps. I have a feeling it will.
55:21Speaker 3Bet it will. Yeah. We like, again, God knows what he's doing. We can heal ourselves a lot with diet
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