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Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. 1:07 Speaker 1: Why wait? Ask your doctor. Visit botoxchronicmigraine.com 1:11 Speaker 1: or call 18044 1:14 Speaker 1: to learn more. 1:24 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. 1:27 Speaker 3: I'm your host, JD Denham across the way, my buddy, William T. Potts. What's man? 1:35 Speaker 2: Life's good. Busy, busy. Let's see. 1:39 Speaker 2: My father's moving and anybody, if anybody cares about personal life, but 1:43 Speaker 2: my sister goes, she 1:45 Speaker 2: calls me and says, Hey, we're gonna go they're in Washington state, right, where I was born and raised. And my sister 1:50 Speaker 2: calls me and says, Me and my husband are gonna go down to talk to dad and about his like end of life plans. 1:55 Speaker 2: And 1:57 Speaker 2: so I'll let you know how it goes and okay. 2:00 Speaker 2: Alright, cool. And then she tells me, oh, it's okay. He was organized. We'll get him a house cleaner because he just is getting them too old, like pick up after himself really well. And then my dad calls me the next day and he's like, well, your sister and her husband talked me into moving down there to Southern California next to you. 2:16 Speaker 2: What? 2:17 Speaker 2: Thanks sis. You didn't, 2:19 Speaker 2: failed to mention that 1. 2:21 Speaker 2: But 2:23 Speaker 2: here's the deal. I actually told him, my dad, 2:26 Speaker 2: here's the thing. You wiped my ass and worked hard and paid for everything 2:30 Speaker 2: for a long time when I was just like from nothing. Right? So as much of a pain in the ass as it's going to be with you close to me, like I owe it to you and I will do it with 2:40 Speaker 2: a smile on my face. So- 2:42 Speaker 2: That's rad bro. That's the thing. Now he's not gonna live with me. Yeah. So below. We will put him, but yeah. So that might just happen. 2:51 Speaker 3: That is crazy to think that, I mean, that's where we're at. My dad's 75. I was we used to we went to breakfast on Saturday ironically, and we 2:58 Speaker 3: talked about his age and I was like, I caught up to that. Was like, damn. Yeah, that's right. Oh, dude, he's getting old. It's getting Yeah, they're getting old. I think it was a little tough spot in my 3:08 Speaker 2: life. I mean, but it was noticeable when my parents kind of got to the age where 3:13 Speaker 2: like as a little kid, your parents were just like the rock, right? Like they can, they are the stable people and they will, if you're in trouble or whatever, they're there to fix you. Then when you get to a point where they're starting to be more frail and, 3:28 Speaker 2: and are not the everything, 3:30 Speaker 2: that was kind of a, I don't know, eye opener. I'd be like, They're not invincible. Yeah. They're not invincible. And maybe I'm, 3:38 Speaker 2: yeah, well, a, I better start, I better figure my stuff out and like 3:42 Speaker 2: be, be prepared to give back to them, take care of them because 3:47 Speaker 2: I think we all owe that to our parents who were there with us. 3:51 Speaker 2: Even more, I don't know. Yeah. I may be alone. I don't have 3:55 Speaker 3: a physical higher help in case when shit hits the fan. Yeah. It's always a perspective though. Like, so that's great. You're thinking that because like my mom passed when I 20. Yeah. This is what you get, kid. They don't have an option. You know? So like people that still have parents, take care of them. Take, yeah. I'd love to say 1 more thing to my mom, man. So take care of your parents for the love of God, people. Good thing on you, bro. Good stuff. Anyways, that's what's kind of new. So, but we'll see That's what it'll cool, man. It'll be fun. My dad's, my dad's, 4:19 Speaker 2: he's cool. He drinks a lot. So he'll, he'll go fast and that's been always his problem, but he's never been like a mean drunk. 2 can turn him at the very end and get him into a seat and be able to see for you. 5 But maybe hell, to meet friends. I've seen some people that were like, there's no way he's going to heal and he doesn't. I know. Wow. We've taken him, my sisters tried to get him to like, so when I was in treatment, 4:40 Speaker 2: they have the parents, you know, this like go through like the family program, right? And my sister's like, oh, this would be great. Let's have him go through the family program. 4:48 Speaker 2: And so we're at lunch after I got out, and he she's like, alright. Hey, what did you what did you learn? Do you learn anything about yourself, maybe? Going to this? He goes, yeah. I need to go to Al Anon for Will for sure. 5:00 Speaker 2: See, that's so funny, bro. 5:03 Speaker 2: Basley means like, yeah, I messed up because he's got a prop. Yeah. 5:07 Speaker 2: Not clue in whatsoever that maybe 5:10 Speaker 2: yeah. 5:11 Speaker 2: Might have sums up alcohol. 5:13 Speaker 3: Totally does. Well, cool people, we are here for the 5:16 Speaker 3: Q and A episode. Man, I gotta rub my hands. I picked up on this. I'm noticing I do that constantly. I don't know why I do that. So I'm gonna stop. I'm working on it. All my pockets. But anyways, I'm excited about this. We love doing this. And let's jump in, dude. Let's rock and roll. Cool. All right, that'll get going. So number 1, hey guys, 1st off, love the podcast. It's become a new obsession. Beautiful. That's cool. New to the peptide industry and just looking for some advice. 40 years old firefighter 5:44 Speaker 2: from Newfoundland, 5:45 Speaker 2: Canada. You know, anyway, I just had a distal bicep tendon repair surgery this morning, 03/09/2026. 5:54 Speaker 2: My physiotherapy 5:55 Speaker 2: starts 5:56 Speaker 2: in 10 to 14 days. I wanted to ask your opinion on the best pod ties to take to aid in recovery and possible dosages as well. Should I start taking them right away or wait a few days? Once I'm back to the gym and in a good form, you'll a 100% be getting more questions from me. 6:12 Speaker 2: I just saw a video of JD on Instagram, dude, you jacked. And now I want to look like you. Thanks in advance for the advice and motivation and inspiration. 6:20 Speaker 3: That's funny, man. That's how we work it. That's how we work it, man. Think that we, 6:24 Speaker 3: I think, 6:26 Speaker 3: you know, if you followed my channels or whatever, you know, well, I both feel like this. You know, men are supposed to be the leaders, providers, protectors, all that stuff. And I think men have kind of let some of that stuff go by letting them self go. But I believe that, you know, 6:41 Speaker 3: you get in shape, watch how many people you inspire to get in shape. And I believe that's how rad life is. You know, iron sharpens iron man. Like you watch how many of your friends 6:50 Speaker 3: get in shape. I can't even tell you when I started doing the carnivore, people were like, you're gonna die from cholesterol. And then everybody, I had every 1 of my friends soon quickly after because I got ripped and they're like, can we tell me a little bit about this carnivore thing? They were. We would try to, we would go to parties at your house or at other people's houses. Who would bring you meat? Well, yeah, like the the catering would be 7:10 Speaker 2: just like burnt cheese with no tortilla. Yeah. Just burnt cheese and meat. Meat in it. 7:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody else. The toast is baby. 7:20 Speaker 2: But that's rad man, you want me to take this 1? Well, I think, I mean, okay, so like here's the deal, dude, we have discussed this and I think here 7:29 Speaker 2: is what I would do and what we have done, what JD has done actually post surgery, like so BPC 7:34 Speaker 2: and TB-five 7:35 Speaker 2: hundred. Okay? 7:37 Speaker 2: Those are your 7:39 Speaker 2: tendon 7:40 Speaker 2: actually and tissue repairs. Those are the best things possible. There's some other stuff that we, you know, GHK- 7:47 Speaker 2: more of like a skin type healer, but BPC-one hundred 57 is going to help with angiogenesis, 7:52 Speaker 2: create new little blood vessels, 7:54 Speaker 2: which blood is life, right? So that's going to help heal things. It is going to allow your body to create more collagen from all the food that you eat. It's going to signal where to put that collagen, right? Because it knows wherever is hurting and needs to be rebuilt, 8:10 Speaker 2: it's going to shove it all there. 8:12 Speaker 2: The TB-500s 8:13 Speaker 2: is just going to boost the hell out of your stem cell production and like the healing power of those stem cells to get you back in. The combination of those 2, 8:22 Speaker 2: AKA a Wolverine stack, 8:24 Speaker 2: I would, 8:25 Speaker 2: and JD, 8:27 Speaker 2: can chime in, but like, dude, I would do, you just had the surgery, I'd go high doses right now and I would inject not into the open wound, but like, 8:35 Speaker 2: it's, let's say it's reduced here, I would go kind of in a triangle 8:39 Speaker 2: daily 8:40 Speaker 2: around there, saturate that area. 8:43 Speaker 2: And if money is no object, would do 5 mg. I would do what JD did 15 mg of each, But like, I would minimum post surgery for a month, at least this is minimum, like 2 mg of each. Yeah. 1. For sure. Daily into 8:59 Speaker 2: that BPC 9:01 Speaker 2: TB right there. Also 9:04 Speaker 2: add in a like secretaguard, CJC, 9:07 Speaker 2: Ipamorelin, or Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin. 9:09 Speaker 3: Those 9:10 Speaker 2: those tell your body to create more growth hormone. What's growth hormone do? It helps repair, 9:14 Speaker 2: recover, and rebuild everything in your body and you will heal faster and stronger, 3 but do not, 9:20 Speaker 2: don't miss out on the Wolverine for sure. Just blast high doses. Can't overdose on it. Pretty 9:26 Speaker 3: much sum that up. I love it. Like I've heard it. I don't know where people pick ups. I'm assuming there's always going to be new people. So some of this will be redundant for some, but it's the 1 peptide I think Will and I both will choose. You know, there's some right after that we would wish we kind of had if we didn't, like Wolverine will be there just because it works so freaking good, man. It healed me so fast. My 9:49 Speaker 3: stepmom or my dad's wife just had major back surgery and her scars was gigantic. 9:55 Speaker 3: We've been getting her on quite a bit. So it's definitely been expediting the healing. 10:01 Speaker 3: I will summed it up. What can you afford? 10:04 Speaker 3: Blast it. You will expedite the healing. You can't take too much of that dude. Yeah. I think what was, what was it? You were taking 10:11 Speaker 2: 15 10:12 Speaker 3: mg a bottle. I took a bottle. I think it was a 10 mg. Don't think I had the 30 mg. I think it was the 10 mg and I took 3 bottles in the morning and 2 at night. I was like, when Paul told me that I was like, woah. 10:23 Speaker 3: And I was even blown away by it because I was taking a lot. So it was 40 10:28 Speaker 3: mg each. There were the 10 mg runs, not 5. I'm pretty sure it was a 10 mg and then 4 bottles the next day, 3 bottles the next day, 2 bottles, and then 1. And then I was running like a full bottle for, I think like 2 weeks after or something. I don't remember the exact, but the big, the point was the saturation and just right after the surgery and it worked really good. 10:49 Speaker 3: Now 10:50 Speaker 3: on a maintenance, 10:51 Speaker 3: my shoulders are always torn and 10:54 Speaker 3: I usually try to do it every day. The 10:57 Speaker 3: Wolverine, 10:58 Speaker 3: I don't always remember because it's not always hurting. Then as soon as I stop, they hurt. So I, you know, I'm trying to, and then I do, I do try to like lean back 11:06 Speaker 3: and blast 11:08 Speaker 3: a little bit of my back just to try to, just to try to make sure I don't ever have a surgery again. I'm not going to say that's going to stop it. If a disc goes out of disc goes out, but it'll help. 11:17 Speaker 3: So that stuff's magic, man. It's amazing. 11:20 Speaker 3: The good stuff. Hope you heal well, man. So happy you have your own community. Now we forgot to tell you guys, we have our warrior 11:29 Speaker 3: makers community. We have man, my, our team, we have the, I'm not saying this. I'm just, I'm being honest. Our team at Warrior Makers is the best damn team ever. Know, we are very, very choosy on who we hire. We're very choosy that they will all be cohesive and they have our same beliefs and stuff. It's been great because everybody here has worked their butt off for this Warrior Maker platform. We started on 1 and we figured out that was not the right move. Just 1 11:57 Speaker 3: of our guys just hammered out a new 1 on school. And so we're up and running on that. It's really, we're just trying to bring people in where we can kind of be a little bit more upfront on protocols, 12:09 Speaker 3: kind of just, you know, we're, it's our platform, so we're able to say things a little bit more direct where we don't have to tiptoe around so much on social medias. It is what it is. You know, that's part of life. And whether I agree with it or not, it's not my company so they can do what they do. 12:23 Speaker 3: But we have been amazed at how fast it grew 12:27 Speaker 3: and how people are making comments and lifting each other up and it's been amazing. So if you're not on it, it's on school and 12:34 Speaker 2: you will love it. Yeah, we can post- Alright. I'm sure we could post the information on at the bottom. Yep, we'll put it on there. And 12:41 Speaker 2: we are working hard, man, to just to- Improve it. To improve it constantly. So 12:46 Speaker 2: every time- And we will. You log in, I mean, hopefully you're doing it daily. It's basically a social media platform, 12:52 Speaker 2: but we have a lot of good in-depth info and we are making more and more and more to 12:58 Speaker 2: just really fill in everybody with all the knowledge that we know and the experts knowledge that we have contacted- Come here for us and do the podcast. Absolutely. We 13:07 Speaker 3: did a 7 minute video on just testosterone replacement, just some of the oils. What's the difference between the oils? Why? 13:16 Speaker 2: Exactly how you do it. Just kind of went through my 13:20 Speaker 3: sometime, and I switch it up in regards to that stuff. Sometimes I'll do test SIP, sometimes I've even done test E and then I've done a lot of test P lately. I've been really liking the test P, but I tell why. So it's on there. You can check it out on the Warrior Makers platform and stuff. 13:35 Speaker 3: I forgot to say that. All right, cool. So we got so happy you have your own community. Love all the knowledge and passion you share. Can you provide some guidance on SNAP-eight protocol? I'd like to target some loose skin on the tummy and thighs. Also assuming injection is more efficient 13:50 Speaker 3: than putting on top of cream. 13:52 Speaker 3: Thanks for being awesome. Do you know the protocol? So it's tough. 13:58 Speaker 2: The SNAP, as 13:59 Speaker 2: all of these peptides are, well, almost all of them are all like research peptides and there's still a whole bunch of more research that needs to be done, which is beautiful for anybody out there taking them, though you are the R and D force. 14:12 Speaker 2: So I am, MKD is, right? 14:15 Speaker 2: Where the, Like well, the research, not the development portion, but the research is the only way it gets done. So here's the thing, with the SNAP-eight, like, it only really works locally. 14:25 Speaker 2: It 14:26 Speaker 2: is very, very, very closely related to like botulinum toxin or however you say it, which is Botox. 14:31 Speaker 2: And it's signaling to, 14:35 Speaker 2: whereas yeah, Botox is a toxin, 14:38 Speaker 2: okay? And that's why your face freezes. It's basically just like paralyzing your face. This 14:44 Speaker 2: is more of a signaling peptide that tells the skin 14:47 Speaker 2: to relax 14:50 Speaker 2: and tighten essentially. If 14:52 Speaker 2: it's relaxed and not being constantly like used, 14:56 Speaker 2: it won't develop wrinkles and actually it helps with some collagen uptake to fill in some of those wrinkles. 15:02 Speaker 2: Would also personally But 15:04 Speaker 2: research has shown us that it only really works in a spot 15:08 Speaker 2: injection. And frankly, the topical serum is 15:12 Speaker 2: probably more effective. So you did say, Hey, I assume that the injection is better. I think for this 1, 15:19 Speaker 2: an actual topical 15:20 Speaker 2: serum is a better way to With the GHK- With GHK- 15:25 Speaker 2: because that 1 we know 15:27 Speaker 2: is going to promote a whole bunch of new collagen being made in the skin, right 15:32 Speaker 3: there. So use 15:33 Speaker 3: both. 15:34 Speaker 2: We can also tell you what the best serum is, is we have tried and then made some custom 15:39 Speaker 2: serum that is awesome. Yes. 15:43 Speaker 2: And it's a huge big bang for your buck. 15:46 Speaker 2: There is, 15:47 Speaker 2: gosh, what do we put in there? Like, I think I think 20 15:50 Speaker 2: bottles of 100 mg GHKCu 15:53 Speaker 2: and 30 bottles of SNAP-8s used to make 20 ml serum. 20 bottles, you said. 20 bottles. A deep bottle. Super dark blue. Super dark blue, and it really works. People are selling these at, like, 16:07 Speaker 2: at their 16:09 Speaker 2: beauty. I don't know what 16:25 Speaker 2: Guys who I use it too. It's not just women, but blue magic, blue goddess. But I'd use the answer, snap eights, probably best Yeah. In a serum and apply it topically and also do it with GHK-two. 16:36 Speaker 3: Sure. Cool. Nailed it. Yep. Right. 16:39 Speaker 2: Oh, and number 3, watched your video on IGF-1LR-three 16:43 Speaker 2: and VIP. And I have a question. I'm a type 2 diabetic on TRT at 200 mgs a week, as well as Mounjaro 16:51 Speaker 2: for the type 2. 16:52 Speaker 2: Blood work done every 6 months. My A1C stays around 7. Glucose around 140 to 150. 16:58 Speaker 2: With that being said, IGF-1LR-three 17:01 Speaker 2: sounds like what I want to help build more muscle and wanted to get your opinion on that as well as dosage. 17:06 Speaker 2: Also, I'm looking into SLU-three 32 for my wife. She is going through menopause, 17:11 Speaker 2: has some belly fat from her previous C section, and is starting to exercise, and it sounds like this would help her out really well. Thank you for any info and help. 17:19 Speaker 3: Actually, you want me to run that? Yeah, go ahead. But I also have answers, but I'll add on. Yeah, it's free. I think the IGF-one is great. When it comes, we've said this, but when it comes to baptized, you're not going to get, you know, anything near any type of gear or anything. I mean, you're going to diet, lifting weights, eating, that's going be your best thing to 17:38 Speaker 3: gain. But the IGF-one will work after lifting, I think. I've kind of experienced some of that stuff. So I would lift and then take the IGF-one. 17:47 Speaker 3: So 17:47 Speaker 3: I think that is a good idea. 17:50 Speaker 3: What 17:51 Speaker 3: I would recommend is just very simple taking 17:54 Speaker 3: 100 micrograms 17:56 Speaker 3: and that should do the trick. And you want to generally run it. 17:59 Speaker 3: Again, these are research, 18:01 Speaker 3: but our 18:02 Speaker 3: recommendation is generally going to run it for 8 weeks 18:06 Speaker 3: and then take 2 to 4 weeks off. I 18:08 Speaker 3: think you could take 2 weeks off and do it again, but some people might want to take 4 weeks off, but that's generally Now, again, just to be redundant for a reason, this is just recommended. You can try to go outside of that box and just see how your body responds. That's how we do it. And 18:24 Speaker 3: then that's kind of the best way. It comes to your bride. SLU-3s great. I love it. I think it's amazing. 18:30 Speaker 3: I think that she could get more bang for her buck if you're only going to do 1 peptide, which is very simply to go right to the king of the castle, which is Retatrutide. 18:38 Speaker 3: Why would you not? If it's just because maybe she doesn't want to inject, I get that. But once you do it once, you'll be like, that's nothing. And then she'll want to do it again. Even though SLU-3P is great, 18:49 Speaker 3: nothing compares to the king daddy of burning fat and just burning weight off you like Retatrut. So I would just get to the jugular and go right there, my brother. So hope that helps. You're out the go. Yeah, dude. So 19:00 Speaker 2: your dosing on, so did you ask a question about the TRT? So 200 mg is great. Okay. That's your TOT dose. Yes. IGF-1LR-three 19:10 Speaker 2: is like hand the peptides. That is, that's the best thing you can do to add muscle. 19:15 Speaker 2: JD said this, be careful as a diabetic, as a type 2 diabetic, right? It can kind of alter your body's glucose handling. All right? So 19:24 Speaker 2: be aware of that. Keep getting your blood tests, but it 19:30 Speaker 2: can increase blood sugar a little bit. I would imagine most diabetics do that. Yeah, and my guess is that hopefully you know how to handle yourself and listen to your body, but just, you know, do your own due diligence 19:43 Speaker 2: on that, but it's the best thing. And like Judy said, I'd say 8 weeks max. Right? You don't really wanna run it that long. 19:49 Speaker 2: And like his dosages, right, I would it's usually comes in 1 mg bottle. So IGF-one LR 31 mg bottle. 19:56 Speaker 2: I add a 100 mils or I mean, mil of water, which is a 100 units of backwater 20:02 Speaker 2: and 10 units will give you 100 micrograms. I'd start there. Make sure you eat a little 20:09 Speaker 2: bit of sugar, like right as you take that. Right? 20:13 Speaker 2: And post workout is the best. Basically, it's it is the nutrient partitioning is the 1 is the big deal or IGF-4s. 20:20 Speaker 2: So like you work out, you tear your muscle down, now your muscle's like a sponge. Right? It goes, damn, I wasn't strong enough to do what you asked me to do, so I wanna build bigger and stronger, 20:30 Speaker 2: but it needs food. So you work out, eat some protein with maybe 20 grams of carbs, fast acting carbs right after that workout and the IGF-1LR-three, 20:39 Speaker 2: and it will just shove all of that protein with the carbs 20:44 Speaker 2: right into the muscles to regroup to grow, grow, grow, grow, grow. Alright? 20:47 Speaker 2: That's how it that's in a simplified way and how it works, and it is the best for that. SLUIP, I can't think SLUIP will be good kind of for anti 20:57 Speaker 2: oxidative stress and boosting 20:59 Speaker 2: metabolism and nutrient partitioning and helping with endurance. I think Reta is the more effective 21:05 Speaker 2: straight up fat burner. 21:07 Speaker 2: He's right. SLU-1R can't hurt and doing them both can't hurt either. 21:13 Speaker 0: Yeah. If you're gonna do 1 though. If you're gonna do one- Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes, 0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your work out and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes. 21:30 Speaker 2: I probably would choose right out just because I would choose right out always. 21:34 Speaker 2: It's the best thing there is Yeah. For weight loss. 21:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, man. I think that's it. Go ahead. Menopause, 21:43 Speaker 2: yeah, depends on the symptoms. Everybody has, you know, has different symptoms of menopause, but there's a peptide cut for a lot of these things. 21:50 Speaker 2: If the menopause So Menopause 21:52 Speaker 2: is critical. Absolutely. 21:54 Speaker 2: I mean, Tesamorelin 21:56 Speaker 2: by the way, is the 1 21:59 Speaker 2: that is FDA approved to target belly fat. So 22:03 Speaker 2: think on that too. That's always the hardest part to leave. The hardest fat to burn is the belly fat. Obviously like how much weight? So if it's like, you know, 22:11 Speaker 2: 50 pounds, go with the Retta. But 22:14 Speaker 2: sleep, 22:16 Speaker 2: exercise, good nutrition. Always. 22:18 Speaker 2: Have to be a baseline. 22:20 Speaker 3: All right. Good morning, gentlemen. I am 30 year old male, father of 2. I recently got my hormones checked and my total test was 3 22:28 Speaker 3: 12. Pretty typical these days. And free was 8. Woah, you must be tired. And my E2 was low normal. However, the symptoms of fatigue, low drive are prevalent. I decided to run a TRT protocol myself and my doctor agreed follow-up 22:43 Speaker 3: on my labs upon request. 22:45 Speaker 3: I'm currently taking 120 mg, 22:48 Speaker 3: test it, 22:49 Speaker 3: split into 3 injections. Good doctor. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. My question is, 22:55 Speaker 3: if my blood work comes back good, is it a good idea to go up in dosing? I currently take 3 megs a week and would like to get my testosterone levels to high end of normal. 23:06 Speaker 3: Any advice would be great and thank you and stuff. You want me to take Yeah, go ahead. Mean, yeah. Yeah, 23:12 Speaker 3: I think that if your doctor recommended, that's great. You know, he's telling you to inject 3 times a week. I don't think most doctors do that. Now, 23:20 Speaker 3: 120 23:21 Speaker 3: mg is definitely low, but I think 23:24 Speaker 3: it's all subjective to how you feel, how your numbers are gonna come back. And that's going to take a little while. You're not going to find that after your 1st blood test, you're going to feel better. 23:34 Speaker 3: And it's going to really take a little while to find your sweet spot and probably a few months until you know what your exact dosing is. But 23:43 Speaker 3: the 120 is definitely on the low side. You can always go up, but to be honest with you, brother, to like get to the point you just 23:52 Speaker 3: go slow, 23:53 Speaker 3: figure it out. Like should you go up? What does the blood work say? And then even more so, how do you feel? 24:00 Speaker 3: Right? You have free testosterone of 8, so you must be really tired, dude. And you must have a really low sex drive. So that's an easy fix. You're going to fix that part. That's just the cherry on top of testosterone. 24:13 Speaker 3: There is a boatload of all these other things that are so much more even important than that. So you're going to feel great, my friend, take it slow and kind of keep reporting back, man. We'll give you some of our opinions on some of that stuff, But 24:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, I 24:27 Speaker 2: concur. 24:28 Speaker 2: Get it up, how you feel. And again, like, so everybody has a different, I don't know, how they feel at a certain 24:37 Speaker 2: blood test count and 24:40 Speaker 2: everybody, I don't know, my personal goal, like I want to stay like 24:44 Speaker 2: 800 to 900 24:46 Speaker 2: nanograms 24:47 Speaker 2: per deciliter, okay? 24:51 Speaker 2: Because that's where I want to be, that's where I feel good. I think this is about the same for JD. 24:55 Speaker 2: I think anything over 1000, you're probably a little high for just like a TOT dose because, hey, if your test gets that high, then we start making too much estrogen. 25:04 Speaker 2: I definitely notice if my test is too high, I start feeling slow, 25:08 Speaker 2: you know, because it's sluggish and blood thickens a bit and I can almost just feel it. 25:14 Speaker 2: Obviously the estrogen side effects are going to go up and then now I've to take the AI 25:18 Speaker 2: to combat those and that's not good long term. So it's 25:23 Speaker 2: a delicate, but frankly, 25:25 Speaker 3: I don't know, not that hard. Hopefully just try to be in tune with your body. 25:30 Speaker 3: Because don't get caught up on the level. Don't get caught up on like what the number is. Like, don't go, well, I'm at 09:50 25:37 Speaker 3: now, so I'm good. How do you feel? You don't feel good at 09:50. 25:41 Speaker 3: Like again, like I know like around 900 to give or take 45 on my free is where I feel the best. That's just taking me a while, you know? 25:49 Speaker 2: But you can't take that as you're going to feel the same way as I did because you're totally different. This is- I know people who feel awesome at 600 for definitely that's cool. Right on. They get to take less. 26:01 Speaker 2: I personally take about 200 megs a week. 26:05 Speaker 2: I'm taking less now because I'm 26:08 Speaker 2: getting myself ready to be fertile. 26:10 Speaker 2: So I'm lowering the dose instead of just cutting it off completely. But 26:15 Speaker 2: yeah, maybe 26:16 Speaker 2: an answer for the next question or or later down the road. Yeah. Alright. Love it. Next 1. Hey, guys. Love the podcast. You both have been incredibly helpful 26:24 Speaker 2: through my peptide journey. I started TRT 6 months ago. My wife was pregnant, so I wasn't worried about the effects from the TRT. Unfortunately, we lost the baby. I'm sorry. Oh man, that sucks. 26:35 Speaker 2: My recent blood work showed my luteinizing hormone is very low. We wanted to start trying again. My question is, should I stop the TRT and get on HCG? 26:44 Speaker 2: I know that's supposed to increase testosterone and help with fertility. I apologize if you have already touched on this topic. I appreciate your time and keep up the great work. So we have touched on this before and no problem, dude. I understand there's 26:58 Speaker 2: So 27:00 Speaker 2: I would probably lower so it's not it is not impossible 27:04 Speaker 2: to conceive while you're on TRT. Okay? Everybody let's let's let that be known. Just because you're on testosterone, 27:10 Speaker 2: that is not a, like, guaranteed birth control pill. I know people who've been running trends for 9 months and got their own pregnancy list. But 27:18 Speaker 2: then again, I've known people who ran testosterone once and it's been really, really hard 27:22 Speaker 2: to get pregnant. JD has not ever come off the testosterone 27:26 Speaker 2: to get his wife pregnant I know 27:29 Speaker 2: people who've tried and then said, all right, fine, lowered it, lowered it, and then finally came off and then a couple months later, got pregnant. 27:35 Speaker 2: So it's up to you, dude. 27:39 Speaker 2: Okay, so, but here's what I would do for sure. Either way, if you wanna get off What I am personally doing is lowering 27:46 Speaker 2: my dose real low. I don't wanna come completely off. And then Enclomiphene, 27:51 Speaker 2: okay, that is going to 27:53 Speaker 2: Regardless, 27:54 Speaker 2: that is gonna boost your natural test output and fertility. Okay. HCG, 28:00 Speaker 2: some clinicians will make the argument that that is only 28:07 Speaker 2: making your natural 28:09 Speaker 2: testosterone 28:10 Speaker 2: production higher, but not your actual fertility higher. 28:14 Speaker 2: But in practical 28:16 Speaker 2: practice, 28:18 Speaker 2: we realize that, and actually, even if, when we're just boosting that natural test, it does carry over to the fertility side. So, 28:26 Speaker 2: and we know people who have tried, tried, tried, then added HCG and bam, they got pregnant. 28:31 Speaker 2: So there has to be, there's some correlation there and it can't hurt. So I'd run HCG, 28:36 Speaker 2: I'd run Enclomiphene. I'd run like 25 mg of Enclomiphene daily. Enclomiphene, 28:41 Speaker 2: not Clomid. Right. Not Clomiphene 28:43 Speaker 2: Right. But Enclomiphene. 28:45 Speaker 2: HCG, 28:46 Speaker 2: JT can help with this, but maybe, 28:49 Speaker 2: what, 1000? 28:51 Speaker 2: 1000 IUs, Try it 2, 3 times a week. Yeah. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. And then there's finally HMG, 28:57 Speaker 2: which is usually used as kind of a last resort. It's really expensive. You're doing like a full bus 75 IUs 3 times a week, 1 bottle of 75 IUs. Yeah. 29:06 Speaker 2: But that also works. Kisspeptin 29:09 Speaker 2: is the last fertility 29:11 Speaker 2: peptide. 29:13 Speaker 2: It works more like HGH 29:15 Speaker 2: not HGH, but an HGH secretagogue, but it tells brain to say, Hey, boost up the pituitary to make more down here. But that gets shut off if you're on TRT. It will not work. The brain goes, Wait, no, no, no. I got enough tests. I'm not going to work. All of the other ones I mentioned bypass the brain and just go straight to the testes and tell them to go. 29:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. So Kisspeptin, 29:37 Speaker 3: just to clarify that, you can't stay on TRT, it won't work. So you'd have to come up with TRT. Regardless, you better do very small doses of Kisspeptin folks. 29:46 Speaker 2: More is not the answer on Kisspeptin and will in fact do the opposite. It's actually being used to like reduce 29:53 Speaker 2: fertility and cut off fertility when given in semi moderate to high doses. 29:59 Speaker 2: Anyway, so there's 30:01 Speaker 3: better ways and more effective. Enclomiphene ACG run it. Yeah. I mean, there's been so many people that we've talked with that. I've never done the Enclomiphene side, but we've helped people to do that. I mean, I've just very simply have stayed on TRT. Haven't changed my doses. I didn't come down. 30:15 Speaker 3: I stayed at 180 and I literally very simply just took 1000 IUs Monday, Wednesday, Friday. It took about, ironically about 9 months each time, 30:24 Speaker 3: but it worked. And 30:26 Speaker 2: I didn't change anything except for that. Yep. Oh, the, your girl can take Kisspeptin. Yeah. That actually will help small doses. 30:34 Speaker 3: We missed 1. Let's see here. Hey guys, new 30:37 Speaker 3: to peptides. Just found your podcast, learning so much. Thanks for the great content. 30:41 Speaker 3: My question is around Retta and type 1 diabetes. 30:45 Speaker 3: My son-in-law 30:46 Speaker 3: is a type 1 diabetes since childhood, 30:49 Speaker 3: currently 30 years old and looking to lose about 70 pounds. I've 30:55 Speaker 3: not been able to find any research on Retta use in type 1 diabetic. 31:01 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts? Do you think GLP-two 31:04 Speaker 3: may be a better option? 31:07 Speaker 3: That's 31:08 Speaker 3: worse. We're 31:10 Speaker 3: thinking of talking about this and we're surprised it hasn't come up 31:13 Speaker 3: more, to be honest with you. But then we kind of caught up to that, I think, which was the truth, which if you have type 1 diabetes, you have to be It's life and death. So you 31:21 Speaker 3: probably know what's 31:23 Speaker 3: up and you tracked out stuff. But no, we're going to recommend against it just because you can have an unpredictable glucose spike. 31:32 Speaker 3: Just to be blunt, no, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even mess with it. Just don't. It's just not, 31:36 Speaker 3: like you said, there's not a lot of research 31:39 Speaker 3: out there because it's just not a wise decision. 31:42 Speaker 2: There's a reason you can't find. The reason you can't find anything on type 1 diabetes because you 31:47 Speaker 2: shouldn't do it. It's approved for type 2. Type 31:50 Speaker 2: 1 is just too risky and all of these GLP-1s, 31:57 Speaker 2: they're not controlled enough in 31:59 Speaker 2: your body. 32:00 Speaker 3: It's a big deal if you mess up. So 32:04 Speaker 3: definitely 32:05 Speaker 3: it sucks because it would definitely help them, but we want to keep them alive. Yeah. So good 32:11 Speaker 2: old fashioned hard work. 32:13 Speaker 2: There's a few, there's a lot of other baptized that he can take 3 to help him lose weight. 32:21 Speaker 2: Tesofensine might A Tesofensine might work. 32:24 Speaker 2: Shit. I would absolutely 32:26 Speaker 2: do going to keto diet though. Hell yeah. Carnivores, baby. That's 32:31 Speaker 2: the number 1 thing I would do for sure. Yeah. I had some serious type 1 diabetes. That's the 1st thing. Hell yeah. 32:37 Speaker 3: Which like ketogenic diet, I've done both. 32:40 Speaker 3: I find, I found, I've done pretty much most diets and I've done them pretty well because I'm pretty disciplined when I do them. 32:48 Speaker 3: And the ketogenic diet, 32:50 Speaker 3: I'll be great. It feels harder for me. You really have to track your macros, which I hate doing. Where a carnivore, you don't because you don't eat sugar and you don't really eat glucose. You eat meat, 33:00 Speaker 3: fat, and eggs. So maybe just start there and see how he does because you just know you can, this is what you can eat, this little bucket and nothing else. And I know that sounds hard, but as long as he likes steak and ground beef, 33:12 Speaker 3: you'll be good. Thought it was gonna be harder. Remember when I Joe Rogan talked about it before I did it for specific reasons for some health stuff. I was like, wow, that would be crazy. Eating meat, that's it? And then meat's not the star. It's fat. 33:26 Speaker 3: Fat, fat, fat, fat is what your body switches over from glucose 33:30 Speaker 3: to running on fat and huge benefits. They're 33:33 Speaker 2: really trying to get on a good diet. 33:37 Speaker 2: I think that what you said earlier is like the best way to go, dude, it's like, okay, hey, let's get used to eating some things the same, but also just make it easy and simple on yourself. Totally. 1st of all, if you're trying to go on a keto day and you're trying to go, gosh, what if if you're trying to calculate how much carbs can I possibly eat, like, that's a wrong mindset? It sucks. Just 33:54 Speaker 2: don't even the good just just don't eat any bars and stuff are not do not. Yeah. Don't listen to any of that marketing stuff that's on any bars. I'll say keto bars Keto friendly. 20 grams of carbs in it. And 34:07 Speaker 2: no fiber, which is a carb, but it doesn't convert. 34:11 Speaker 2: But what I would do literally is go, all right, here are my protein sources. And I would just pick 5 that I know that are good on my wallet that I can cook and I can deal with it. Right? I would say, Hey, I got so you're not trying to get 34:24 Speaker 2: fancy with all of your meals and like, I just try to, like you said, just put it I got 5 protein sources and maybe that's too many. Okay? You wanna do 3, right? Well, I want chicken, 34:33 Speaker 2: this this kind of steak and and and something else. Okay? And 34:39 Speaker 2: then pick 3 34:41 Speaker 2: carb sources if we're for this is just like on a basic meal plan. If we're trying to eat small frequent meals, you know, just make life easier. 34:48 Speaker 2: Pick 5 to choose from, pick 3 to choose from. We got fat sources, pick 2 to choose from and just go different combinations of all those. Okay? The carbs is not the keto part. I'm just saying in general, simplifying 34:59 Speaker 2: your life would be a lot easier. 35:01 Speaker 2: And yeah, when he said carnivore is keto, he's just saying there is just no possibility of carbs in carb. 35:07 Speaker 3: Are going into ketosis. Their 35:11 Speaker 2: flesh is not any carbohydrate. 35:14 Speaker 2: And it makes it just takes that option off the table. And that's the mindset you wanna be in anyway. Oh, yeah. 35:20 Speaker 2: Okay. I did skip that 1. Good stuff. 35:23 Speaker 2: Alright. I think here we go. Hey, man. I love the show. Keep up the good work. Is that right? Yeah. 35:28 Speaker 2: Just had a question about throwing in CJC Ipamorelin, 35:32 Speaker 2: but on Reta. Okay. Beneficial or pointless? 35:35 Speaker 2: Also, would it be ideal while on a secrete gag to pin IGF-one 35:39 Speaker 2: pre and post workout? My thoughts is that I'm trying to continue to grow with the fat loss expedited. I understand you'd love Tesamorelin, but I have available access to CJC on hand, it's convenient. Would love the insight, 35:51 Speaker 2: boss. 35:53 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, dude. I think, I mean, my quick answer is I would, there is no problem. It is definitely not pointless. Yeah. And there's no, like, 36:03 Speaker 2: contraindication 36:04 Speaker 2: between Reta and the CGC 36:06 Speaker 2: IPA 36:07 Speaker 2: secretagogues. 36:08 Speaker 2: So I would, yeah, do it. And you can also add IGF-1Biller 36:14 Speaker 3: 3. Yeah, just because you're taking a secretagogue doesn't mean you can't take the IGF-one. Those things, that kind of works downstream. It doesn't, 36:21 Speaker 2: the secretagogues work way upstream when the manufacturing process, the IGF-one skips all of that and just 36:27 Speaker 2: IGF-one to grow. Yeah. 36:31 Speaker 2: There's some people think that you inject it. A good idea. 36:36 Speaker 3: It was great. In the muscle? I haven't done as much research on that as I probably need to dig into that, but some people think that if you inject the IGF-one right into the muscle you just lift it on, it helps. Helps. 36:48 Speaker 2: High. Glad you didn't really lead me there, so I haven't dug into that much. Because it's modified 36:53 Speaker 2: to stay around 36:55 Speaker 2: a longer period of time. It's not just super duper fast acting. Like it goes into your bicep, for example, 37:01 Speaker 2: and cool for a few minutes, it might start to build muscle there, but it really kind of systemically 37:07 Speaker 2: integrates into your whole body really fast. You do the IGF-1DES, 37:12 Speaker 2: that's a super fast acting 1. That would make more sense in the muscle. You just need to inject it more frequently throughout the day. 37:20 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that is 37:21 Speaker 2: the right, if, 37:23 Speaker 2: if we're talking peptides and you want to gain the most amount of muscle, 37:26 Speaker 2: I think what you're doing, what you just said is probably your best bet. Yeah. You said you have excess. 37:33 Speaker 3: I mean, just to kind of like go off what you said. I mean, I do love Tesamorelin. 37:37 Speaker 3: I've kind of like turned on it because 37:40 Speaker 3: I, we've 37:41 Speaker 3: had so many people bring it up and the sleeping part has been rough for me. I think it's amazing. It really helps with that burning fat, but it affects my sleep. So I have not taken it. Now, another thing I think Will and I both kind of, you know, we continue to grow and like we learn and like we'll never stop and we're going to continue. And I can't even believe, I can't even think when we're being a year because like now we do this for a living and we get to talk about this all day. 38:06 Speaker 3: Where when it comes to like the 38:08 Speaker 3: HGH in the morning and then a secretagogue at night, we are big fans of that. I have recently kind of, well, both of us, I think, I only talk for you, but we don't 38:17 Speaker 3: think that it does as much as we thought it did. So I'm not even taking a secretagog at night. I mean, I've tempered down a lot of my peptides anyways, but when I run the HGH, 38:26 Speaker 3: I don't, don't, I'd always thought I needed to take a secretagog at night and I don't know, my opinion on that has changed a bit. I would definitely go with the king of the castle in that category, which is the HGH. 38:36 Speaker 3: But if I wasn't going to take the HGH, 38:39 Speaker 3: then 1 of the secretagogues 38:40 Speaker 3: would be it. 38:42 Speaker 2: And not CJC. 38:44 Speaker 3: It wouldn't be CJC. I mean, we've talked about it, but I'll tell you, 38:49 Speaker 3: I had read a lot about it and we've talked about it long before this happened. And like, I just wasn't a fan of it because of some of the stuff I read. 38:56 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, I haven't done it. Let me just try it. So I think I took 5 shots and then I took like my 5th shot and I was just like, boom, 39:05 Speaker 3: rash. I mean, to, from the, it was like such a split 2nd that I couldn't believe it happened that fast. And I was like, holy shit. I kind of felt a little weird. 39:14 Speaker 3: So I was like blown away by it. 39:16 Speaker 3: Months later, 39:17 Speaker 3: you know, my wife tries different things. I'd had her on Tesamorelin and I wanted to switch that up for her. And I gotta be honest with you. I did, I had no 39:24 Speaker 3: part of me thought that she was going to have a reaction just because I thought it just is rare, 39:29 Speaker 3: rare enough to where I wasn't worried about it. And she had 1 immediately. 39:33 Speaker 3: Like I inject her and then I went around the corner and she was going to put my son around and she came out and her lips were huge. 39:39 Speaker 3: She's like, I think something's wrong. I'm like, Woah, I called Will. Was like, 39:42 Speaker 3: bro, 39:43 Speaker 3: it was, it scared the shit out of me. Almost took her to the hospital. Oh, because my bride, you know, and so I don't want to scare you away from CJC, 39:51 Speaker 3: but 39:52 Speaker 3: my wife and I both had a reaction and we're pretty good at peptides. Have a lot of experience. 39:57 Speaker 2: We're 39:58 Speaker 3: just gonna let you know because you can make an educated decision. 40:02 Speaker 3: Yes, the chance that that would happen to you would probably be fairly low, but 40:07 Speaker 2: happened to my wife and I know it's pretty rare. I've heard it from a lot of people like basically CJC 40:12 Speaker 2: is the 1 that our body 40:14 Speaker 2: more than anything really recognizes as a foreign 40:18 Speaker 2: substance. And our body's reaction 40:21 Speaker 2: is to create histamines 40:23 Speaker 2: to get it the hell out of us. So 40:26 Speaker 2: we all know what histamines are basically. We've heard of antihistamines, 40:30 Speaker 2: right? It's an allergy pill. So the allergic 40:33 Speaker 2: reaction 40:35 Speaker 2: is our body trying to help us, 40:38 Speaker 2: but 40:40 Speaker 2: it just is creating way too many histamines and now you need 40:44 Speaker 2: an antihistamine to get rid of that. But CGC, 40:47 Speaker 2: because of its strength 40:48 Speaker 2: and whatever, because of its structure, our body rarely, really recognizes that guy as 40:54 Speaker 2: not us and attacks it. And it happens to quite a few people. And I've heard of people throwing up and feeling 41:00 Speaker 3: and yeah. We talked about it for a long time dude before, we, 41:05 Speaker 3: you know, and then I, I'll try it. If 41:07 Speaker 2: you get that reaction, 41:09 Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it anymore. Everybody's telling you don't do it. Allergic reactions, they just got to get worse with time. 41:16 Speaker 2: You're over, like worried about it, dude, like you can just take a, have an allergy pill, maybe like take that 5 minutes before you do the injection. Yeah. That's good. And 41:24 Speaker 2: KPV is also known to help because a lot of these 41:27 Speaker 2: these autoimmune disorders kind of originate in the gut. Propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes, 41:33 Speaker 0: 0 sugar, and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes. 41:45 Speaker 3: And if KPV is on board and actually does help. That's all I had. I didn't have an anti antihistamine, so you just have KPV. 41:52 Speaker 2: And then the growth thing, you know, 41:54 Speaker 2: the problem with the HGH in the morning and then the secreted Gog, especially the growth hormone releasing 42:01 Speaker 2: hormone, 42:02 Speaker 2: hope that's right. 42:03 Speaker 2: Like Tesamorelin, Sermorelin, 42:05 Speaker 2: CGC-twelve 95 is the pituitary is the 1 you're telling, Hey, pituitary, let's make more growth. If you're doing exogenous growth, your pituitary goes, Nope, I already got a bunch. And therefore the secretagogue 42:19 Speaker 2: may not be that effective because the brain goes, no thanks. I'm not to 42:23 Speaker 2: stimulate it because I have a lot. Therefore it's just kind of a waste of money. Now, Ipamorelin 42:28 Speaker 2: though does not play by those rules. Okay? Just so we know, right? Ipamorelin 42:32 Speaker 2: is 42:33 Speaker 2: a 100% good to go with exogenous growth hormone and it will do its job. It will boost 42:38 Speaker 2: your 42:39 Speaker 2: growth hormone pulses 42:41 Speaker 2: even more so. So there's no problem with There's no problem on the other side. It's just, it may not be that effective. The Teslas Sermorelin, CJC, 42:50 Speaker 2: if you're doing regular growth hormone in the morning. But Ipamorelin, absolutely, that'll help with everything. If you're not in exchange, then you're good. You guys have inspired me to try SLU-332. 43:01 Speaker 2: Right? Because this last 1 was a Yeah, same 1. Duplicate. Yeah. Okay. 43:06 Speaker 2: Inspired me to do SLU-three 32. 43:08 Speaker 2: I received 43:10 Speaker 2: vials of 5 mg lyophilized powder of the SLU-two and I'm having trouble reconstituting it. Yep. I tried 3 mils Hospira bacteriostatic 43:20 Speaker 2: water, and it ended up with a bunch of undissolved floaters. 43:23 Speaker 2: I then tried 0.3 43:24 Speaker 2: mLs of DMSO after some research guided me in that direction to dissolve the powder 1st completely and then added 2.7 43:32 Speaker 2: mLs of backwater, but it turned into a cloudy gelled mess. 43:37 Speaker 2: What's the proper way to reconstitute sleep? 43:39 Speaker 2: Here it is, is I would do the same thing that you use with AOD, 43:43 Speaker 2: which is acetic acid. 43:47 Speaker 2: I personally 43:49 Speaker 2: like acetic acid, glycerol, and I think the acetic acid percentage you're looking for is 0.9%. 43:57 Speaker 2: And 43:58 Speaker 2: glycerol 3%. The acetic acid burns, hence acid. 44:01 Speaker 2: Glycerol helps cut down the sting from the acid 44:06 Speaker 2: and then also there will be benzyl alcohol at about 0.0 8%. 44:12 Speaker 2: And that's what you do, dude. AOD water, acetic acid, microstatic 44:17 Speaker 2: water 44:18 Speaker 2: with glycerol. If you want to message us, we can give you some sourcing recommendations 44:22 Speaker 2: on where to get the stuff that will work. Also, 44:26 Speaker 3: just so you know, 44:28 Speaker 3: won't speak for Will, but I think I can, but the 44:32 Speaker 3: SLU-PP-three 32 is the 1 44:34 Speaker 3: peptide that we believe works just as well in like a sublingual 44:39 Speaker 3: form. 44:40 Speaker 3: I've done them both and I just because it's 1 less job, I actually lean towards that myself. 44:47 Speaker 3: So maybe try that. I don't know. But if you do want to do the injection, yeah, 44:52 Speaker 2: got that down. Yeah. But I mean, really sublingual is kind of proven to be like the most effective route for sure. Yeah. 44:59 Speaker 3: Works well. Yep. I love it. Cool. 45:02 Speaker 2: Hi 45:03 Speaker 3: gentlemen. I just listened to your peptide of the week on Pinealon 45:06 Speaker 3: and I'm really curious. I'm MML-32but 45:11 Speaker 3: suffer from diagnosed 45:12 Speaker 3: PTSD 45:13 Speaker 3: due to childhood abuse. 45:15 Speaker 3: Therapy 45:16 Speaker 3: works and increases my quality of life. A PTSD is a bitch. 45:20 Speaker 3: So anything I could do further help sound very interesting. Do you have any further information on the effectiveness 45:27 Speaker 3: of it on any younger demographic 45:30 Speaker 3: suffering from trauma? 45:32 Speaker 3: Thanks. 45:33 Speaker 3: Want me to take it? I 45:35 Speaker 2: can 45:36 Speaker 2: go start off and then tell them what you think and I can help. I can add in. Do you want me to go? Yeah, go ahead. So 45:43 Speaker 3: you can do the Pinealon. 45:45 Speaker 3: It'll help with like oxidative stress. 45:48 Speaker 3: So it's possible. I think there's better what you could do like a Selank. 45:52 Speaker 3: Selank basically in Russia is kind of an antidepressant, 45:55 Speaker 3: so it'll help. So you got, it'll help with like anxiety, 45:58 Speaker 3: social anxiety. It'll help you get calm. 46:01 Speaker 3: It regulates dopamine. 46:04 Speaker 3: I think that you should lean towards that. That 1 would probably 46:07 Speaker 3: do you well. 46:09 Speaker 3: So that would be my recommendation. I think that you would really like that. I think I'll do a lot for you. So, and I agree that the, so the Selank is like an angeolytic, 46:17 Speaker 2: it helps you calm down and 46:20 Speaker 2: with a little bit of mood boost. 46:22 Speaker 2: That will work a lot, 46:24 Speaker 2: I guess, 46:25 Speaker 2: and really feel it. 46:27 Speaker 2: With Pinealon, 46:28 Speaker 2: the goal there, it's really helping heal 46:31 Speaker 2: neurons. 46:32 Speaker 2: Okay? And 46:35 Speaker 2: we did do this Epipatide of the Week on this 1 and the PTSD was, 46:41 Speaker 2: it is being tested and doing some trials on PTSD patients, but really it was more on like traumatic brain injuries 46:48 Speaker 2: from sports or military, 46:51 Speaker 2: right, where there's like physical 46:53 Speaker 2: damage to the brain, 46:55 Speaker 2: not as much emotional damage because it's there to heal neurons. 47:02 Speaker 2: Think that, but I think it's absolutely worth a shot. Now I don't really There's 47:08 Speaker 2: not a lot 47:09 Speaker 2: of research. Okay. So I can't really 47:12 Speaker 2: give you any further information on the effectiveness. 47:15 Speaker 2: Now I do know I would run, I would do it and I would shit, I would go for maybe a month straight. 47:22 Speaker 2: How you feel. Would also maybe try Dihexa. 47:24 Speaker 2: And 47:26 Speaker 2: in my, in our pep time of the week, we are alerted. I think I would take a little higher dose of Dihexa than I 47:33 Speaker 2: talked about previously. 47:35 Speaker 2: I'd say 20 to 30 mg of Diahexa orally 47:38 Speaker 2: daily. 47:39 Speaker 2: And 47:40 Speaker 2: you will, you might actually just feel that. I have talked to lots of people since and really absolutely feel focused. And that's really going to help heal the connections of neurons, right? The synapses, 47:53 Speaker 2: dihexa. 47:54 Speaker 2: And 47:55 Speaker 2: so 47:56 Speaker 2: PE-2228 47:58 Speaker 2: something we rarely ever talk about. 48:00 Speaker 2: Read up on that 1. 48:02 Speaker 2: You might just be go, damn, I need to take that. There's not, there's even less data on that 1, but PE 22, 28, 48:10 Speaker 2: read up on that too. 48:12 Speaker 2: That is more of just a classic like antidepressant. 48:14 Speaker 2: And 48:15 Speaker 2: it depends on what your PTSD symptoms are. Guess that's what's tough about 48:20 Speaker 2: our answer, but my guess is anxiety, 48:22 Speaker 2: depression. 48:23 Speaker 2: So 48:25 Speaker 2: would say- Maybe 48:27 Speaker 2: Tesofensine is a triple antidepressant, right? Although 48:30 Speaker 2: may not be the best for somebody with anxiety because it's going to boost your norepinephrine, 48:35 Speaker 2: which is your happy and energy. 48:37 Speaker 3: Right? So that might not be good for that. Yeah. I wouldn't start with that. I would say, I've tried those other ones you said that was great. I thought that was a good attack. That was good. And like I said, like I said, like just try them and then you can always stop if like shit. Yeah. There's no rebound. There's no negative rebounds like literally any of these. 48:54 Speaker 3: You're so dude, try them like PT is that is a bit. I mean, It's a bitch. So that sucks. You don't wanna live like that, so I would be doing everything I possibly can. I I would like to take a left turn real quick and just kinda give you some advice for whatever that's worth. You know? I think God noticed what he's doing, so he kinda created us to kind of heal heal ourselves, which what I mean by that is, 49:16 Speaker 3: you remember you've heard that guy, Chris Kyle, he was the guy that was the sniper and then he had PTSD. And I know that's not your life, but he had PTSD. 49:24 Speaker 3: And how he ended up fixing it before he unfortunately got shot, but how he ended up fixing it was he started helping people. He started helping people with PTSD 49:32 Speaker 3: and showing them that you could live a life and it was like a circle of just life, helping people and then they help people and then you help people and you keep helping people. I think God created us to help. I think God created us to try to fix problems. 49:45 Speaker 3: And I think we can, and then we turn around and help other people fix problems. And when we do that kind of in perpetuity where that's your life, where you're helping people, 49:55 Speaker 3: I believe God puts his hand on it. Will and I are both guys that know that. Like we were to a degree of train wreck, you know, now like we do do pretty well, but we are giving, we try to be integral and we always 50:07 Speaker 3: say yes, if somebody asks for help and there is a peace and a calmness that comes in my opinion, I'm not getting religious on you, but I am, that comes from God. 50:18 Speaker 3: I call it a pocket of peace or a pocket of bliss. 50:21 Speaker 3: And the only times I have felt it is when I'm helping another person without any expectation of reciprocity. 50:27 Speaker 3: So I know that's not a peptide, but it works. 50:30 Speaker 2: It might be the most effective number. I really think it is, 50:33 Speaker 2: But yes, we have lived a life and the only way that we've gotten better and had our together is by helping 50:39 Speaker 2: other people. And it is a pain in the butt. 50:43 Speaker 3: If it doesn't convene you, it's you mean inconvenience to you is not helping the people. If you're not inconvenienced, you're not doing it. Right? Right. 50:51 Speaker 3: Try that, man. Try try that. Go walk on a beach, go put your walk, take your shoes off, walk by in the grass like we're connected to the earth, man. That's calmness. Alright, 50:59 Speaker 3: man. Your last. Last 1. So my wife is 25 woman 25 and suffers from severe endometriosis. 51:07 Speaker 3: She already has her 2nd operation because that shit grows fast. In addition, she suffers from permanent reflux. 51:15 Speaker 3: She hardly eats anymore because of this. We are are ready working 51:19 Speaker 3: on becoming parents 51:21 Speaker 3: as this is the most 51:24 Speaker 3: recommended solution for the end symptoms. 51:27 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to start her on Clo, great idea, in the hope to get that damn chronic inflammation down until it arrives. We start with a 1 mg of BPC daily. Do you have any further ideas what peptides we could use 51:41 Speaker 3: hormonally? 51:42 Speaker 3: She's 51:44 Speaker 3: ALS, 51:45 Speaker 3: very estrogen dominant. 51:47 Speaker 3: I am very glad I found you and your community. 51:51 Speaker 3: Awesome. It really gives me strength and energy and hope to listen to you. Best regards from Austria. 51:57 Speaker 3: Wow. Austria. 51:59 Speaker 2: Yeah. Mozart not with the from Mozart not kangaroos. I get it. Wow. That's funny, man. 52:04 Speaker 2: Austria. Not Austria. Cool man. Motart, 52:07 Speaker 2: you know, who's also Australian or I mean Austrian? 52:10 Speaker 3: Is Arnold Schwarzenegger. Hell yeah. The man. We got him hanging up right there, baby. 52:14 Speaker 2: It's not a boomer. 52:16 Speaker 2: You want 52:17 Speaker 2: So I can give you some, so here are some things I would a 100% try. So the goal is to reduce inflammation, 52:23 Speaker 2: right? 52:25 Speaker 2: BPC, 52:26 Speaker 2: a 100, 52:27 Speaker 2: like gut health too. Like autoimmune inflammation is all, well, not all, but oftentimes 52:32 Speaker 2: originated from the gut. So I 52:35 Speaker 2: do, 52:36 Speaker 2: I would, I'd would throw everything at it. It sounds like this is like a serious issue and she's over dealing with this stuff and it's time to attack it. So frankly, I'd be doing it like 2 Migs of BPC 52:48 Speaker 2: in the stomach and I would be taking 2 Migs of BPC oral pills 52:53 Speaker 2: daily. 52:54 Speaker 2: And I would also be taking KPV, 52:56 Speaker 2: probably a Mig a day. 52:59 Speaker 2: And that's just all pure stomach gut healing 53:02 Speaker 2: and thymosin 53:03 Speaker 3: Alpha-0.1 53:05 Speaker 3: the best 1. It 53:06 Speaker 2: could arguably be the absolute best 53:09 Speaker 2: anti inflammatory. 53:11 Speaker 2: Also VIP, 53:13 Speaker 2: look into that guy 54:21 Speaker 3: CA-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ-1MQ 54:34 Speaker 3: another like left turn, I get bad acid reflux to the degree like, dude, like it's horrible. I don't, it's just horrible. I've cop up food. 54:44 Speaker 3: What has worked for me? I take a medication now that's I've been on it, it's been helping me, but what has worked for me in the past, 54:50 Speaker 3: 1 of the reasons why I went on a carnivore. Glucose 54:53 Speaker 3: for 54:54 Speaker 3: carbs is what did it. I eat carbs, like if I would, even when I was doing the carnivore, I would every 6 week do a carb reload. Oh my God, that night it was hell. I'd be coughing up shit like, oh dude, I'd why'd I do this? 55:07 Speaker 3: So try that. Just see, I mean, the carbs is what seemed to be the problem and the culprit for the 55:13 Speaker 3: serious acid reflux for me. 55:15 Speaker 3: So you could try to have her maybe do the carnivore for a month and just see if that helps. I have a feeling it will. 55:21 Speaker 3: Bet it will. Yeah. We like, again, God knows what he's doing. We can heal ourselves a lot with diet 55:27 Speaker 3: when our hormones are optimized and we have our diet good peptides shine. 55:32 Speaker 3: So that is it. That was great. We want to just reiterate the fact that we have the Warrior Makers platform. 55:38 Speaker 3: Once you log on and see the posts that people are doing, it is a rad community. I'm not saying that out of convenience or it's ours. It's been great to see people supporting each other, posting pictures of 55:51 Speaker 3: just different things and people commenting. 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