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0:29Speaker 0We are in full swing. We will and I, if you missed it, we were able to do well, 1st off we launched our platform a long,
0:38Speaker 0it took a lot longer than we expected. And it was a lot of work. Now we do a lot of other stuff. So it took a long time to kind of, we're juggling different things, but man, we dropped it a week ago. It's shot up a lot more than we expected. So we're blessed. A lot of people joined and that was awesome. And yesterday we sat down with
0:56Speaker 0the warrior elites. We have a section in there where you could pay and, have some contact with us and ask us direct questions and things like that. So yesterday we sat down and we did a live zoom call, which we had never done. It was kinda different, but it was fine. It's kind of the same. Yeah. What'd you think? It was fine. I mean, it was just kind of an intro. I'm like saying
1:17Speaker 1hi and kind But just like the whole thing that it was live. I've never even done that on Instagram. Oh yeah.
1:22Speaker 1Just with people. Yes, it was different. I don't really know. We didn't really have much
1:35Speaker 0but it was fine. Everybody was cool. Mean, people said, yeah, people were just kind of there to listen. Yeah. It was a lot of like this where you guys are so rad and so kind on your, you know, everybody, you know, on these questions is always, you know, talking about how they love the podcast and whatnot. So similar to that. So it was cool. I mean, it was cool. Yes, absolutely. Everybody, those who, who spoke were just basically just wanted to say thank you, which is awesome, Which is, which is helpful.
2:11Speaker 0that we know that we have. Yeah. We've talked about it countless times, but you know, there's always new listeners. And, so we started with just a little bit of the story, how it all started. And it's a cool story. You know, a lot of people I'm sure had not heard it, but
2:24Speaker 0this whole thing, this whole podcast is just so funny because it's just kind of a fluke. It was not planned. We didn't sit down and strategically
2:32Speaker 0plan to make a podcast. We just are 2 dudes that love talking about this stuff. And we met at an AA meeting and we would talk about this stuff just like we're talking now. Hey, did you try that? Have you heard of this? You know, and like, we would say, I got this new compound. Why don't you try this? And that's what we do. We just try a bunch of stuff and see how we respond to it. And, so now we just record it. It's just, it's just a rad thing, dude. That in like, right. I have, I mean, guess me personally, right. I've been doing in
3:08Speaker 0peptide supplement business. So even supplements, would have, you can see where you learned a lot because you've, you've known a lot about proteins and stuff, and it's been helpful as we create our own protein. We'll just knows that stuff. Yeah. And tons, I mean, you know, He's the type of guy that when he works there, he's, he reads all of the stuff and learns all of the stuff where most people just work there. And when the people ask, they go, yeah, you should take this. Will actually knows why you should take it. This is who he is, man. So he studies it. I guess when there was downtime, I just went, all right, let's just well, you're curious in read, just find 1 ingredient
3:57Speaker 1in myself, right? But like, yeah, seeing all the possible potential feedback from every single compound and what do people, different people's experiences are,
4:09Speaker 1main takeaway is, right? You can read something on paper, right? You can have a profile of some compound and yeah, cool. That might do. You're going to exit. You're going to see a lot of that, but man, different people have different reactions to everything. Well, I think what's important, almost the most important thing here, it doesn't matter if it's a doctor, it doesn't matter if it's
4:30Speaker 0somebody that you trust that selling different compounds or whatever, anybody that you trust.
4:36Speaker 0If there's somebody saying this is, this is it, this is how it works. And there's no other way. That's the wrong person because we are constantly keeping our minds open and relearning and continuing to grow
4:47Speaker 0and coming in more contact with other people and myself. I read through these questions, there's a lot of stuff that I'm going to respond to that I've learned just by taking all these supplements and having, I'm going to give you like my
5:00Speaker 0feelings about what's worked. How do I know? Because I've done it. How do I know? Cause I've done it, you know? So, but I will tell you, I do not know everything nor does will we don't even pretend to,
5:10Speaker 0we just keep learning. And we commit when, if you look at some of the podcasts in the beginning, we've grown since then, just our water, we used to think we should put it in the refrigerator. That's what we read at the time. That was a studied answer.
5:22Speaker 1But as we've grown and things have changed, we've changed it. That's called Also, there has been a lot of peptides that have come out since then, that
5:31Speaker 1now, and those new ones are basically are the ones that are requiring not cold water. So frankly, even though we
5:46Speaker 1But since then, because there's new peptide because there's so much more R and D going on for all of these because they're realizing they were working and working and working. So
6:01Speaker 0we'll continue to do this stuff though, probably till we die, Cause we are so intrigued. I love it. I have enjoyed all of our own, just even our conversations.
6:11Speaker 0The conversations that we have with the doctors and the nurses and the people that we've had on and man, we plan on having a lot more because we enjoy it. We learn so much and I hope you all enjoy it as well. I know a lot of the feedback is you've enjoyed having us having guests on,
6:29Speaker 0because we enjoy it and, you know, we're going give you the best content. So it was fun. If you have not joined the Warrior Maker platform,
6:37Speaker 0we will leave some links and let you join it. It's been rad, man. You have people that are posting their wins. They're posting,
6:45Speaker 0you know, where their journey started. There's people losing a lot of weight out there. There's people that have been overweight and getting ripped.
6:58Speaker 0There's always some, for lack of a better way to say it, pricks on there that are going to be negative. We're going to boot them off. We are all about positivity here. We're not bringing negative and you're not going to talk bad on anybody. That's not going to happen on our site. So
7:10Speaker 0anyways, we're blessed. We're stoked. Everything's going good. Let's jump in. This is a Q and A episode
7:30Speaker 1I am looking for your opinion on how to optimize my health. 49 years old. Total test is $7.40.
7:39Speaker 1I started on TRT 12 weeks ago, a 0.3 mls twice a week, blood drawn today to see if it has helped.
7:50Speaker 1stayed on 3 mls a week, had good results. Body fat is 13%. I have an order of peptides coming that includes Retta, Clo, and HGH. I
8:07Speaker 1Have never taken, I've never taken HGH. Your advice would be appreciated on that. Also with Tesamorelin be helpful? I have done Ipah CJC 12 95 a few times. I've liked it other than it seems to affect my wind.
8:27Speaker 1Marathon is gonna be a hard thing. Too much of anything. So I would be careful about like, Hey, too much testosterone
8:35Speaker 1is going to affect your cardiovascular system. Right? Well, hell, you'll just gain a little, you might just gain too much weight and then, you know, you'll slow down everywhere.
8:59Speaker 11 to 3, maybe I use, but as you're preparing, but it sure is going to help your body recover. Cause you need to train for these things. It's not like, well, hopefully you're not just waking up and going, well, 6 months I got to run this marathon and then waking up that morning and just running it. You should be training before 26
9:20Speaker 1your body's going to need that recovery. Right? And I'm definitely not saying stop the testosterone, but I think your test is probably at a good, good level for that. I think I would do HGH and 1 IU,
9:43Speaker 1Good. I think you should because Retta is going to allow you to eat some more food, which your body's going to need.
9:54Speaker 1too lean. You want to have a little bit of energy stored up and you don't want to, you need some glycogen stored in your muscles before that race
10:11Speaker 0Think, I think the 1st thing that jumped out at me is the most important thing here is I feel good right now. Yeah. I mean, there, there, there you go. You're done. You're good. You feel great. So we don't need to do much more. I mean, the test is a little low. I mean, 40, you know, 7 40 you can get by with eleven's low, though. Eleven's on free. So that would be something that I would want to work on. You know, I like mine to be around 45 again.
10:37Speaker 0Not you, that's not anybody that's me, you know, cause I played with those levels, but 11 is low regardless guaranteed.
10:44Speaker 0And that's going to give you some energy and sex drive. That's that's where that stuff is affected.
10:53Speaker 0that's going to be great for recovery. I think anybody 40 should be running 1 or 2. I think HGH and TRT are just lifelines for dudes 40, especially dudes, guys that are going to be active and continue to be active.
11:10Speaker 0you're going to probably feel tired at 1st. So, you know, that's kind of what kind of comes along with it. Don't think it's not working. It is working.
11:20Speaker 0So I remember when I 1st started, I was really tired and my fingers were tingling. Remember that road? I was like, dude, man. And,
11:30Speaker 0So just know that, I think it's great, but, yeah, I would work on your 11. That's low. My brother Add in some HGH. You might want to throw in some SLU-PP-three 32 because that's going to help with stamina. You can also do a- Carterine. Carterine,
12:09Speaker 0you know, you're kind of sitting on where you should be. So your body do the, do the thinking really.
12:15Speaker 1You feel good, great talks, I don't know, like, you know, to increase your, your, your
12:21Speaker 1you could try taking provyrin. I don't know if you're willing to do that. It's not, that's very, very, very low side effect profile, but that, that,
12:30Speaker 1decreases your SHBG, your sex hormone binding globulin, which essentially like attaches to your androgen receptors and then not much more androgen can stick on there, right, like your testosterone.
12:42Speaker 1So we take provirin and that essentially strips that off. And now you have a brand new
13:02Speaker 0I'm back with another questions. I have been on NAD for at least a year and since I've been on it, I love it. I do cycle off from time to time and notice the difference for sure.
13:56Speaker 0I mean like fire ants. I switched to backwater and it hasn't gelled up on me yet. And isn't cloudy, but doesn't sting either. So fingers crossed to say
14:08Speaker 0Keep up the good work and JD, happy to hear that your little guy is doing well and it wasn't something more serious. I couldn't imagine as I'm a proud dad myself of a 9 year old. Awesome. God bless. Keep on moving. Love it. Thank you. That is awesome.
14:22Speaker 1We can run on that. Yeah, sure. So, so we have not really talked about NMN and I'm not going to say the whole words, what that acronym stands for, because they're really long words. Because
14:33Speaker 1it's that, that stuff is more for somebody who's just not willing to do the NAD That's plus
14:47Speaker 1convert that, so you give it more building materials and then your body will naturally convert that to NAD plus. Right? But if you are willing to inject NAD plus, then that's just the better option. Yeah. So we haven't really spoke about that because we have just
15:04Speaker 0because just doing the NAD plus is better. The question, yeah, it's great. So the question, did I control? Sorry. Yes, but I
15:16Speaker 1the stack you're taking great, right? Like basically it was some performance and recovery and brain focus. I hope you liking the Selank and Semax.
15:26Speaker 1That all sounds great. I would maybe like, I don't know, maybe not add anything more in there. It looks like you have like all of the bases covered
15:52Speaker 1you can mix backwater in there and it stays and it doesn't gel up, awesome. Do that. Here's the thing though. Usually, doesn't it's not like you put backwater in AOD and then it just gels
16:08Speaker 1So and my suggestion to everybody who's doing AOD, you shouldn't if you're going to mix it, you need to use it and use it religiously like now. Like that bottle can't sit even in even in AA water. I
16:39Speaker 1yeah. Yeah. That's 1, but hell, do it. If you can mix backwater and just use that fast before it starts to gel out, power to you. And then if it starts to chill up, even like, don't
16:48Speaker 1inject the gel, but like, it was me. Leave it out. Yeah. I'm still, if it's gelled up at the bottom and I've done this plenty of time, still gonna ride the, I'm still gonna use the liquid that's in there. Hell yeah.
17:02Speaker 0done it so many times. I I've used backwater even to this day. I, you know, sometimes that's what I have and that's what I use. So I don't mind it. And I've never really had the sting, but from the acidic water, but like I said, each his own.
17:14Speaker 0Yeah. I mean, Will kind of answered it. It's basically like a growth hormone and a secretagogue.
17:22Speaker 0that goes to NR that goes to NAD, right? They're precursors that for the NAD. So if you just inject NAD, you're going to get NAD
17:45Speaker 0feel anything? I don't think so. The 1 thing that I have read is that it'll kind of keep the NAD working a little bit longer. So if you want to try that, sure.
17:54Speaker 0I mean, I inject NAD daily, I don't have that problem. So I don't need to do that. I take NAD generally for the most part,
18:02Speaker 05 to 6 days a week, right around 2. So I don't need to take those because I take it every day. So, but that's the answer on that. In regards to your stack, you're doing great. AOD by far is 1 of my favorites. I have downshifted on almost all peptides
18:17Speaker 0and NAD is 1 of the ones that I've kept because I love it. So that is standing in my repertoire.
18:25Speaker 0you for talking about my little guy. It was a really funny, scary night, for sure. 1 of the scariest nights I've had with that little guy, for sure.
18:34Speaker 0But man, they are resilient. Aren't they? He woke up the next day and it was like, it never happened.
18:39Speaker 0Blown away. I was scared to death at 3 in the morning. I walked in and see my kid lifeless and I was like, please God. And then, you know, 12 hours later, he's running around kicking a ball.
18:52Speaker 1So appreciate you, man. Go ahead. All right. That's it. That's it. Good. Next 1. Ready? Want me to move on? Okay. So what is your opinion on Melanotan?
19:01Speaker 1What benefits does it have besides being tan? I'm 43 year old female and tan easily, but would prefer to stay out of the sun. All right.
19:19Speaker 12 is probably the more popular. It was it was just, I guess, more widely available earlier than 1. It's usually a little bit cheaper,
19:34Speaker 1you should be doing it, you know, almost every day to start off, right, every other day. So you need to do it more frequently. It's gonna work faster. Unfortunately, both of these things, like, they only work if you're in the sun.
19:44Speaker 1So if you don't want to stay out the set, but here's the thing, like you'll, you can spend less time in the sun because you'll get tan a whole bunch faster.
19:57Speaker 1Like I personally, if I take that and I mean, I'm taking a tiny bit. So if it was a 10 mg bottle,
20:15Speaker 1And Melanotan 1 will not do that to you. Not nearly as bad, not noticeable. So anyway, I suggest if you decide to do an MTN 2, I would do the injection at night, right before you go to sleep before a day that you know you're going to hit the sun.
20:32Speaker 1So, but MTN 2 is going to give you freckles. Like you're going to start noticing like really bad black dots everywhere.
20:40Speaker 1Melanotan 1 will not do that. MTN 2 is going to increase your libido. Like it's going to.
21:03Speaker 1It's, it's like, it'll work better, but more side effects. All right. Then is the Montel-1s,
21:20Speaker 1so let's see what else that's about it. Now, Also, if you don't wanna do the injectable, there is nasal sprays. Okay? The they work they work awesome.
21:30Speaker 1Okay? They don't you're not getting as much as you do in the injectable unless you do like 10 sprays. Yeah.
21:38Speaker 1and they really work. You just need, you do need to get sun. It's kind of enhancing the melanin in your skin. Actually will like protect you from getting burnt too,
21:57Speaker 0That's kind of a mic drop. Like Will knows a lot about that. I mean, so, but again, like it's funny because
22:02Speaker 0you, you only can go off your experience. My experience with Melanotan is that I have taken it and not gone in the sun and I still get tan. So that would be the only 1 I would say that where I would differ,
22:22Speaker 0people that we know that take it and then they come by and I'll be like, You taking a little bit of Melanotan? And they're like, Yeah, I love that stuff. I think you should stop a little bit. Stop. Trying to be nice. Yeah,
22:39Speaker 1Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So just be easy. How do you tell somebody to stop? Don't do it. Jump. Be bored. The other thing is like, it builds up in your system. Even though I said like, hey, Montan, you should maybe start off daily. Like you don't need to do it. You'll feel You basically just know it. Like be a good judge in the mirror, right? You will get to be able to just back off the dose even more and more, and it just has compounded is in your system and working.
23:04Speaker 0It's true. I've taken both. I've tried it. I like Melanotan 1. You can take it like Monday, Friday, and it works really quick. I think it works really quick. Melanotan II. I
23:25Speaker 0you say you get that nausea because it's just, I don't. And then a little bit-1x and 2? Yeah, and say with PT, some people are like, I can't take it because I get so nauseous. And I like right away, I'm like, and then I'm like,
23:37Speaker 0But some people don't, they're like, man, I can't take it because I'm so nauseous. I get a way
23:47Speaker 1but I just get uncomfortable feeling, You know, just like, ugh, just like need to, like it's like you took way too much pre workout, and then now you've just have to, like, sit there in, like, a warm room. Tingly. You know, it's not even the tingly. It's just the internal feeling. Right? Or you just do cocaine
24:15Speaker 1you just like, I kind of feel like shit. Like the only thing, same thing, same The only thing that'll make me feel good.
24:23Speaker 1But it does work, but I don't get the nausea from PT-one 41. I get it. I get the, the just bad feeling.
24:34Speaker 0hey, Jaden, Will, love the podcast. I'm a big fan of the message you guys put out. I'm a 40 year old male and had a question about TRT.
24:53Speaker 0That's great brother. That is a lot of weight. Good for you, man. That is no easy feat. Yeah. Train cardio and weights 5 to 6 days a week and follow a solid meal plan. Good for you, dude. My current stack, CJC-twelve
25:41Speaker 0it makes sense based on my labs. I have no issue with sex drive and honestly, I feel better than I ever have. I'm curious what you guys think about starting TRT or even HGH in a situation like mine. My overall goal is to just stay healthy, enjoy life long term. Thanks again for the content.
26:00Speaker 0Yeah, I think that's what we all want. You want to take that 1 1st? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Again,
26:28Speaker 0That 86 is high, but hey, you feel great, but you probably feel good because your 86 is high.
26:38Speaker 0I think that you're doing good, man. I don't think that you need to take it unless you
26:45Speaker 0then there will be a day you might not feel great and you take it. You know what mean? We're big advocates for TRT, dude. And so, you know, it's not, if you feel good, then there you go, man. I think that's it. Now HGH is a different story. You are over 40.
27:05Speaker 01 or 2. That's it. If anybody tells you more, don't listen to them. Or 2. I started off on 1, we will tell you. 1, IU for so long, I didn't want to overdo it. And dude, I'm telling you, did wonders. I, at about 6 months, right at that mark, dude, I know it was helping me burn fat like crazy. I noticed it.
27:25Speaker 0Start there maybe, you know, and then if you want to go up to 2, go up to 2, but I think you should try that.
27:33Speaker 0I think you, you can get to the TRT. Think you eventually will get to the TRT, but right now I'm going to advise you to just chill. Feel good. Yeah. Would agree. Stay off it as long as you can. If
27:56Speaker 1It's not bad, but that's not really what matters here. It's that say it's that free number. And so, yeah, I wouldn't, it doesn't sound like you need it.
28:09Speaker 1You don't, you won't have it. It won't just work as good when you really do need it. The same. I concur with the HGH as well. Everything you said. Those who haven't heard this, because we've said it a lot, but again, like I said, there's always new listeners. Easiest way to explain
28:28Speaker 0T how much money you have in your bank account? Free T how much money you have in your wallet that you could spend right then and there. So your energy level, your sex drive, it's based upon this right there. And that's why you feel great, dude. You can spend a lot of money.
28:45Speaker 0Will probably be on TRT in the next few years. So run it, man. Stay good. Who's up? You? Thank you. I think so. Alright. Hi guys. I really appreciate
28:55Speaker 1your knowledge in this space of peptides and taking the time to answer questions. I've been diagnosed with prostate hyperplasia,
29:16Speaker 1I also need your thoughts on my testosterone blood panning. Total is 3 20 nanograms per deciliter and free is 6.82
29:33Speaker 0Thanks. From Oz. They love us out in Oz. Yeah, they do. Dude, there are lot of listeners out in Australia. I love it. Good stuff. You want me to run or you want to take? I guess I'll take a stab. So I
30:04Speaker 1I mean, KPV, so basically the Thymosin you've done some research, right? So Thymosin Alpha and KPV,
30:16Speaker 1if that is the problem, I mean, that's always the problem. If the prostate is swollen, hence swelling
30:42Speaker 1I've taken 1 or 2 pills in a day, a day, like 2 days in a row, 1 pill, 1 pill, And that has been enough to shrink it back down and I'm good. Really? Yep.
30:51Speaker 1I haven't, I You feel like the flow, like opens right up? Yep. Interesting. Like within 5 hours. Wow. Yeah. Like middle of the night to the morning,
30:59Speaker 1like woken up in the middle of the night. I've ran Primo. Primo does that like bad and maybe for me. Right. And I could, I could definitely feel it. So I know all the symptoms and I've taken like Finasteride literally in the middle of night and I woke up in the morning and like emptied my full bladder. Yeah. Those symptoms though have not
31:43Speaker 1probably help out with the sex drive issue too. I know that doesn't give you a, doesn't give you a sex drive, but like when you start helping, you start getting it. Yeah.
31:55Speaker 1That's it. So PT-one hundred 41 can help. Hell, oxytocin. There's a no nasal spray called love potions. Got PT-one hundred 41 oxytocin,
32:06Speaker 1which is to help relax and help calm, right? Like helps with any like performance anxiety.
32:22Speaker 1right? Like, yeah, I guess is the question. I think you should be on TRT at 3 20 nanograms per deciliter as your total TRT
32:30Speaker 1Like that's super duper low. I think the reference range for some of these HMOs is something like 2
32:39Speaker 1they will not prescribe if you're not below 2 or 300, but man being at 3 and that's crazy. Oh my God. Yeah.
33:03Speaker 0Did. Cialis is what I was gonna say. It's great. Cialis, I take, I mean, I'm not religious about it. That's the 1 where I kind of slack, but I try to take 5 mg a day. It's great for just blood flow. It's great for pumps in the gym. It's great for just keeping blood flow. So
33:21Speaker 0It's great. It works really well. It does kind of keep you ready in the position. I'm not, I don't have a problem in it, but like it does just help, you know, and it does work with sex drive I have found.
33:35Speaker 0I will be back on his yes, please, for the love of God, get on testosterone, brother. I always just think logically,
33:50Speaker 0no right or wrong answer where you need to be. You need to be where you feel good. But the reason you don't have sex drive dude is because you don't have testosterone,
34:00Speaker 0brother. So let's get you some testosterone in you. You will feel like a new man in 3 weeks. I have arrived.
34:08Speaker 0You out in Australia, brother, you will feel like you have arrived. I'm sure you surf and all that stuff. You'll be like, just running circles around those young guys again, you'll feel like you're 31 dude. So jump on that stuff. We already took it. BPC-1MQ
34:34Speaker 0Thank you both for putting out such great, thorough information for answering our questions and make such a difference.
35:36Speaker 0year old woman on hormone replacement. I didn't catch that when I read that 1st woman. Okay. Hormone replacement therapy,
35:49Speaker 0teach, spin, hike, play tennis, and of course lift heavy weights 5 days a week. What a beast. I love it. Diet very focused on protein, intermittent fasting,
36:00Speaker 0and some carb cycling. This girl knows what's up. Working to lose 2% more body fat, which might not sound like a lot, but it's a tall, tall,
36:13Speaker 0tail end of a long, hard journey and at my age, everything takes time at work. Does. I feel you. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and insight. Let me jump on this real quick because I got some likes. So
36:28Speaker 0the best knowledge that we can give you is the 1 we learn ourselves. We have been all over the place with SLU-3. We've learned different things. We've tried different things. We tried and we got, we purchased some, what was the MIGS on that? It was 100 mg
36:47Speaker 0We all took some. So we wanted to try it because we read the same stuff that it should be taken in high doses. We've tried it all. I've taken SLU for quite a long time.
36:56Speaker 0And now after researching, you guys have probably heard me share this multiple times. I went through stage fairly recently where I was burnt the hell out. I was working a lot of hours, doing a lot of things. I juggle a lot for sure.
37:11Speaker 0But the problem is I have a 2 year old man, he just likes to wake up in the middle of the night and scream.
37:28Speaker 0reboot and just kind of think through stuff. And I start thinking kind of like what's affecting this, you know, took out Tesamorelin because I know that could affect sleep. So I just started pulling different things out. And then long story short, I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to downsize
37:47Speaker 0And, 1 stuff that I've read about the sleep is if you take too much and you do higher doses, it can give you that burnt out feeling. Now, was that the sleep that I was taking? Because I was taking about 6 mg a day. Now that would be subjective if that's high or not. I don't know. Probably I would say most would think that would be high,
38:06Speaker 0but I loved it and I know that it's a great compound and I did well on it for a while. I thought
38:11Speaker 0was that some of the issue could have been right because I've read that, you know, and I've only read that fairly recently. So that's 1 of the reasons I pulled it, you know?
38:21Speaker 0again, I think ultimately it was a 3 hours of sleep because now I've been getting great sleep and dude, I feel like 1000000 bucks, dude. I feel like brain fog's gone. And I've also downsized on everything. I was just telling Will HGH,
38:53Speaker 0How do we know this stuff? Because you try it all. How did we will and I know so much about TRT and stuff? Cause we have been doing it for a long time and the best knowledge you're going to get is when you try it on you, Right? Reading it sounds great until you know you and you've tried it. So that is my answer. Sure, it could be that. I don't think you need to worry about a MIG. A MIG is easy peasy. I think you can do a MIG for a pretty 2, long time. I would feel perfectly comfortable with that when I go back on which I will, I'll probably do about 2.
39:25Speaker 1That is my answer on that, dude. So yeah, I got you. Like, what's up with the dosage drains all over the place. Yeah. They're everywhere.
39:33Speaker 1Here's the thing. Here's what's up with it. Like sleep was so new that like all this new research and we're realizing, Hey, this works. And so they're bound to do research on,
39:42Speaker 1well, if some works, does a lot work better? What does this work better? At what point does it start to like kill us, you know? And
39:51Speaker 1not work as great. But yeah, there are studies and there's data there's, but there's nothing conclusive that just hasn't been around long enough. So there's no way for us to answer,
40:19Speaker 1So that's like, you, you know, like you're saying at 7 50 micrograms to 1 mg, right? It's
40:29Speaker 1And I know girls that have taken that, right? We have some friends, some employees who said, oh, I'll take it. They were like working with their shirt off the guys with their tank top, like, I'm sweating like crazy.
41:00Speaker 1You know, it's not a 24 hour last. Right? It's more of like, if food's 6 hours or so, and it's exercise mimetic.
41:12Speaker 1let's pretend we're exercising. It's not exactly the same as exercising folks, but if you could take it 3 3 times a day and break up those 6 hour blocks, the better it'll be. Yeah. So that's my best,
41:25Speaker 1She's on top of it too. You're on top of season, I think. Yeah, you're right. But I, but I wouldn't worry about 1 big. Not at all. I wouldn't worry about that at all. Good question. But good question. And it seems like, yeah, you're on your stuff. Just keep, you gotta just try it, but I wouldn't worry about that.
41:41Speaker 11st off, I appreciate all the info you guys provide. I'm a 33 year old male, former police officer, current firefighter.
41:47Speaker 1Damn. Husband and father of 3. I'm extremely active in the gym 7 days a week. I know probably over training, but I guess there's worse things to be addicted to currently
42:11Speaker 1Tough. I mean, so 1st of all, I guess what brings out to thank you for your service. And
42:23Speaker 1that mental toll that that takes to just basically be constantly in a fight or flight mode, right? You're in emergency mode at all times.
42:47Speaker 1and you live an active job and you've been doing an active job. So I would run the BPs like high dose, I don't know, maybe 2 Migs of each of them, like 3 days a week and be consistent, see how the body feels. I think that
43:29Speaker 1Tesa Ipamorelin. I think that the 1 thing that you're not that you're taking tests, I think some increasing your HGH
43:35Speaker 1and you're 33. I would go with TesofIP instead of real exogenous HGH, not quite yet too young for it. I
43:43Speaker 1don't know. What else am I missing? I thought there was a whole bunch things. Didn't want to give you too much.
43:48Speaker 0Know, I loved where you went with that. I didn't like, I thought you were actually going go a little bit further when you were talking about the, I thought you were going to go Selank and Semax. That was great where you were heading. Your head space was good on that answer. I wasn't, I wasn't just how you took that. Like he stressed out. That good. Anyways,
44:09Speaker 0was a great answer. Semax and Selank, I think that would be good. I didn't like pick up on that until you were talking,
44:14Speaker 0but you'd probably, were police officers. You probably saw some crazy stuff. I'll tell you a quick story. Like when I was 19, man, my mom just passed. So like, I was already like a residual from that. And like I was driving to see my girlfriend and there was a head on right in front of me. If I wasn't, that car was in front of me, it would have been me. And it was brutal.
44:45Speaker 0That shook me up to this day. I remember it. It was gnarly. So for you police officers and firemen, dude, man, my hack was off to you guys seeing that stuff. What you do, I don't think we even talk about it enough, man. We should raise the percentage that we give you off, man, because that's just that can affect. Selank, Cmax, I think that'd be great. Let's try that. So anyways, that was a great answer.
45:06Speaker 0I think they will just kind of kick ass on that answer. So it was good. So if it's like, to build muscle or whatnot, I don't know if you read as a pretty vague. Yeah. We don't really know what the point is, but like, Hey, you know, my guess is, my guess is you kind of want to build muscle. Here's the thing. So you're not HGH. We, I don't think either of us will, will, will say at 33, you got some time to take that. He was great with the secretagog.
45:36Speaker 0an SS-thirty 1, or if your pocket boats allows those 2 together are great. Like TB and
45:42Speaker 0those 2 go together. Try the Selank and the Semax together. So maybe those 2 together, the MOTS C and the SS-thirty 1, but do a little bit at a time. See what your body responds to. Like, I'm a little bit more of a kamikaze where I just jump in the pool and like try to swim.
46:04Speaker 1building peptide, right? Before you lift with a little bit of carbs, I mean, of those take it, eat a little bit of fast acting carbs.
46:11Speaker 1Before you lift, you'll have giant pumps, which will result in more muscle gains, especially if you can eat protein after. But then, but, but post workout eating protein and some carbs
46:22Speaker 1that will result in really in more muscle gain because you basically just boost the hell out of the nutrient
46:30Speaker 1telling your body and then, or hell, those of you who, who were trying to cut down, but you want to eat a big cheat meal, right? Do some IGF-one right before you eat, you know, the pizza
46:44Speaker 1stomach and still ripped up. Because all those nutrients are just going to go to the right places, right? Besides your stomach and not storing fat. All just the carbs is going to turn the glycogen, right? Protein's going right into your muscles.
47:15Speaker 0For sure. That was a great answer, man. Good job. That was awesome. I liked it. Where are we at? 1 2nd to last. Hey
47:33Speaker 0my brother. Oh man, I can feel your pain right now in cervical spine and 2 bulging discs in thoracic spine
48:19Speaker 1Discs are herniated out and now they are touching nerves. Brutal. So now the nerves hurt, right? Cause those nerves, especially your sciatic nerve, that's my guess is that's what you're talking about. Right? Aren't that
48:30Speaker 1sciatic nerve doesn't like to be touched. Any little touch man will snap her up. He and I both have had this surgery to alleviate the sciatic nerve. So, but, so basically the problem is it's a structural issue, right? The
48:55Speaker 1this being out is causing some other inflammation. That inflammation is what's maybe touching
49:03Speaker 1can help inflammation, maybe help some healing, but it's not going to be your fix. I think ARA-290I
49:14Speaker 1dull some nerve pain and help with nerve healing. Nerves take forever to heal. I had my back surgery and I dealt with my sciatic pain for year and 0.5 and just did drugs and drank over it. I couldn't feel it. Like alcohol is like the best work better than
49:41Speaker 1So that sucks that I've never So I can't tell you, I just, I can't, I'm not helpful on the mixing of the ARA-two 90.
49:49Speaker 1I've read a bunch on it and I haven't heard that great of things. Nerves are just tough.
49:58Speaker 1heal nerves. I just, I don't know, but the nerve pain is, it's not that your nerves are damaged. It's that something is pushing into those nerves that shouldn't be. So like that's the physical therapy, the like decompression
50:14Speaker 1Very fix the problem. You're 28. And I'd go fix that quick, man, 28. You have an activist job and I, and life really sucks doing your job 8 right I
50:24Speaker 0see if you can, man, my uncle spoke to you. When I 1st had my back surgery, my 1st disc went out at 25. So I was pretty close to your age. And I was in the mortgage industry and I still worked also,
50:44Speaker 0disc that went out when I was an active addiction and heavily addiction. And like Will said, I was just taking a lot of heroin and smoking a bunch of speed and I'm not advocating for that by any means. But my point of that is I let it go and let it go and let it go to the point where it got so bad that
51:02Speaker 0I literally had my girlfriend bring me to the ER 1 day because I couldn't walk and I crawled into the ER and it was, the disc was so compressed
51:11Speaker 0that they shot me upstairs. I didn't even have insurance and they didn't care. They just shot me upstairs and basically rushed me into surgery because it was bad that bad. They thought I was going have dropped foot and all this stuff.
51:22Speaker 0That's not gonna happen to you because you're not active drug addict, I don't think. But anyways, if you let it go,
51:31Speaker 0to the degree where they don't work. That's what drop foot is. You can lose your bowel like, like,
51:44Speaker 0I know you're going to have all these people in your air don't have surgery. I'm going to tell you I've had 5 and
51:50Speaker 0I've tried to wait on some when I wasn't a drug addict and dude on my last 1, I was stupid, dude. I should have just done it. I woke up and was like, but
51:59Speaker 0no more pain. Oh my gosh. And now the TB that you're taking, they're taking high doses,
52:05Speaker 0take it after, take it all the way up like 3 weeks before and then take it after. And then now, like I, I take that now. I should have actually said that I do still take Wolverine because of my back every day. And
52:28Speaker 0which you're probably will be, you're 28 and you will have 1, did you heal so quick, bro? You'll be in the gym in 2 weeks, dude. Get out of pain, brother. Get out of pain. No, no peptide is going to help you, dude. Yeah. True.
52:47Speaker 0does your normal HGH levels return right away? So in theory, if I stop taking it on Monday,
53:13Speaker 0his growth plates are still open? Would the theory grow another 0.5 inch in, let's say 4 to 5 months?
53:32Speaker 1will return to normal. I don't know about the next day, Yeah. Like Monday to Wednesday, but yeah, within a week or 2, like, it's gonna
53:47Speaker 1there's not gonna be much let down. It might feel like a let down because they'll go back to normal, but they're not going go back to worse than normal,
54:01Speaker 1With moderate to low doses, Well, I can say this, that no, it's not been an answer to risk. It's not been a problem for me nor anybody who I've known who's taken moderate
54:16Speaker 1Moderate doses, I'd say max about 30 mg a day. And that's actually maybe considered a higher dose to some people, but, I've never seen any problems at that dose.
54:25Speaker 1Your key here's the thing with the growth plates was so A) no, well, A) don't give any child, I can say this as advice, do not give the child MK-six 77 because you think it's gonna make them grow. I don't think you're serious about this, but,
54:38Speaker 1the thing is about giving someone a kid a growth hormone while his growth plates are still growing, in theory, I mean, it works and that some doctors that is treatment for some peep they do really need it. But here's the main risk is it can make your growth plates start
54:55Speaker 1growing faster. Great. But guess what it does? It basically like ages them and then they will shut down faster. Right? So the growth of them
55:03Speaker 1than it actually should have, should be. Right? If they're, if they're growing, if those growth plates normally grow to 19, you give it to them at 15, 16, they could stop at 17.5,
55:17Speaker 1the year and 0.5 or so. So that's way too much of a risk and there's no possible way for anybody to say
55:26Speaker 1how much growth they will get in a 4 to 5 month cycle. So that was just an unknown and no,
55:39Speaker 1think he's joking. Yeah. I think he's joking. But for entertaining purposes, like, no, don't do it. And yeah, that is the big risk is the growth plates, may grow a little bit faster at that point in time, but then they stop growing sooner.
55:55Speaker 015 year old told him that he read that and was telling dad, it's gonna make me grow, baby. Yeah.
56:01Speaker 0We'll answered it. No, I don't. He already answered it. I don't need to be redundant in
56:11Speaker 0it comes up a lot and rightfully so. And again, you know, I have 2 boys and it's easy to put myself in that place with them. And I'll say it again if you've missed it. Only thing that only peptide I'm going to give them at this point, unless there's something else that comes out, you know, is going to be TB or BPC. I would have no problem at all injecting
56:33Speaker 0age if they injure themselves, but they will. I'm sure that, you know, I would imagine they're going to do JT-two in sports and football and stuff. So I will have no problem with that. It comes to,
57:04Speaker 0man. Those dudes are active and burn weight. You're, you know, there's not the really fat kids, like when they're playing sports, man. So they're full of testosterone and HGH, dude. Let them grow, leave them alone. Let nature do what nature does.
57:24Speaker 0Warrior Maker platform is on circle. We're going to put it everywhere. We're going to blast it everywhere. You're going to easily find it. And
57:33Speaker 0We're going to try to do what we told everybody last night. We're going to try to do at least 2, maybe 4, probably. So at least 2, we're going figure it out how we're able to fit that into our schedule.
57:46Speaker 0I enjoyed it. We got to touch people and like actually hear their voices instead of hear your questions here. That is cool. Yeah, it was rad. I will say, I really
57:59Speaker 0that will grow. It'll evolve if you followed Will and I for the last year for any amount of time,
58:05Speaker 0we've all, we try to do it quickly and we try to better it and better it and better it. It's just kind of who we are. We're both cut from that cloth and
58:13Speaker 0the experience is going to continue to get better and better. So we promise you that. You know, if you jump on and something's not up to par, just give us some time, man. Like we opened up a little bit premature from what we were going to, but a lot of people ask.
58:27Speaker 0But either way, all the people that ask these questions are always positive people that seem to enjoy the podcast. You will fit in perfectly because you're positive.
58:36Speaker 0The group for the most part is just people rallying around each other, lifting each other and up. And how is that not a good thing? So positive stuff, man. We're all about that. So anything else this week? We record today. What today? Tuesday, which we always record Q and A. We record the Peptide of the Week on Friday, and this one's gonna be a good 1. It's gonna be a good 1. Will's been putting some deep,
58:59Speaker 0deep, you know, he's got his toy right there that he just loves playing with and like, he
59:16Speaker 0So we're going to do some deep dives. We was going to have some visuals to go through, so don't miss it. That will drop on Monday. Other than that,