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1:17Speaker 1What's up, dude? What's up? Hello, sir. We call those Willisms. So Will and I, exciting, exciting day for us. We've talked about this on this podcast for months
1:28Speaker 1and it's not the easiest feat to complete. We've been busy. We're juggling a lot of things, but, we've talked about it. And,
1:35Speaker 1finally, I think tomorrow or the next day, but when you listen to this, it will be dropped. We got our forum,
1:53Speaker 1tired of getting dinged on social media. Were tired. I mean, we had a video on podcasts on YouTube getting taken down for nothing. I mean, I had a video taken down for fasting and I wasn't able to post for a week. Like fasting video. So anyways, listen, we're stoked. We've done well on social media. It's been a blessing to us, but at the same time, there's a catch-twenty 2 part because
2:16Speaker 1what they say they do and sometimes we get dinged and we don't like being delivered out. Anyways, we have our own platform.
2:23Speaker 1We'll be dropping it in all of our social media things. You'll be able to find it easy. We'll be talking about it constantly,
2:30Speaker 1but we want to pull you off social media where we have to be vague and tiptoe around 1 things.
2:37Speaker 2And we can talk to you bluntly. We can talk to you about whatever we Whatever you want. We don't have to give you watered down and like, I'm not really going to say that go into this detail, right? It doesn't have to be watered down.
2:51Speaker 1we want within reason. Well, it's just funny because what you don't see behind cameras and what you don't see
3:01Speaker 1Will and I sitting down and thinking, Hey man, should we do this or should we not do this? We talk through like maneuvering
3:11Speaker 1what can we say, what can we not say? There's no rules written down, so we don't have to deal with that anymore. Yeah. And if you ever
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3:37Speaker 2We got creative. We've that. So it'll be cool. There will be a whole lot of extra info and like, yeah, the point is to
3:43Speaker 2give the people like real information. Right. Right? That is the absolute And we just can't really
3:50Speaker 2do that and we started this whole thing really just kind of wanting to, I don't know, A, we love talking about this stuff, but yeah, wanted to disseminate as much
4:03Speaker 1And yeah, and we have a lot of value and info to give. Yeah. So we're excited. We think you guys will be excited. We'll pull you out off the social media onto our own platform and you'll have access to us,
4:16Speaker 1to the team, ask all the questions that you want, be able to post on the front page, be able to post wins, be able to post all kinds of stuff. I'm excited. It's gonna great. I'm gonna be great. Well, today is the Q and A episode, always our favorite, and, seems like you guys like it a lot as well because we we get to kinda feel each other and see what you're interested in and where we like to answer these types of questions. So, this is a good 1. So you wanna start us off like always? Number 1.
4:53Speaker 230 year old male and recently had my testosterone levels checked and they came back at a 3 14
5:02Speaker 2doctors seem to think that these are perfectly normal, refuses to run my any other tests regardless of my symptoms, fatigue, lack of morning erections and anxiety. I'm wondering
5:15Speaker 2dosages would help me bring my levels to an optimal range? I'm extremely active with a physical job and lift 4 to 5 times a week. Currently on RET, I lose some extra fat. Also, fertility is not a concern as I do not wish to have any more children.
5:52Speaker 2the board and administration forces them to conform to because 3 14 is inside of that reference range and other hospitals, whatever, some other people or people are just don't know, so they want to play it, doctors want to play it super duper conservative. And
6:14Speaker 2basically they're saying like anything above 2 50, sorry, we're not doing, no, you don't fall with that. 30 year old. Now, again, as we know, like all these reference ranges, it's like,
6:23Speaker 2it's similar to It fits somewhere in here. Exactly. Well, yeah, it's somewhere in here plus plus this is what average Americans are. Right? But we know so this so like if you're in the average American range, like that's bad. You're not healthy.
6:39Speaker 2Those BMI tests are only for Ubers, uber skinny and really, really obese. Yeah. You know, I mean, it says a BMI test tells me that I am like morbidly obese. Right.
7:02Speaker 2So same kind of premise basically on these reference range tests. So hell yeah, you need to go see somebody else. You need to go see doctors, clinics who specialize
7:24Speaker 2I think it is. Right? No wonder you're getting fatigue and lack of morning erections and anxiety. Okay. HCG,
7:32Speaker 2yeah, in an indirect way, can it actually help fertility, but like over time you do testosterone and
7:54Speaker 2right? Because you are, if you're taking tests, they're going to slow down. Right? The less tests you take, the slower they slow down. Yep. Okay. The longer you take it, obviously the more that they will, smaller they will be. So I do think the HCG run concurrently with testosterone is a good idea.
8:10Speaker 2And then as far as your like doses, I don't know. I mean, and then when you get your blood test,
8:15Speaker 2do not just get your total tea and free tea, right? You need your like sex hormone binding globulin,
8:25Speaker 2estradiol prolactin, thyroid, DHEA, cortisol, lipids, metabolic, other metabolic markers. Okay. And there's more,
8:42Speaker 230. Holy moly shit. Yeah. Yeah. What the hell? So lack of stress, lack of sleep, lack of nutrition, right? Hey, people who are on Reto or Trozeptide, Semaglutide
8:55Speaker 2you're not eating enough food. Okay? Your body's not getting enough nutrients and it's not going to be as optimally healthy. Okay? That is gonna your testosterone will suffer if you're just not
9:05Speaker 2getting nutrients that you should be getting. So sleep, if I didn't mention sleep, that's probably 1 of the bigger damn things. Huge. I know. You know, do fasting, cold tubs,
9:14Speaker 2go through some rough things in your life like that are not, you know, damaging rough things. Like don't develop a drug addiction, but- Do hard shit. Do hard shit and it makes you harder. That's good. That was great, man. You killed it. I'll be brief because you killed that like mic drop.
9:28Speaker 1Man, 30 years old, holy moly. I'll tell you from the standpoint of this brother, I got sober at 33, so everything to me is pre and post sobriety.
9:38Speaker 1You say you don't want any more kids as did I. I got sober at 33 and there was no way in hell I would have any more kids and I meant every word of it. I was a 100%
9:49Speaker 1But 30, I know you think you're old. That is very young and you got a long way to go, dude. And you might want to have kids. You hope to God you don't ever get divorced if you're divorced. That's what I'm saying. But
10:05Speaker 1If another lady comes into your life in your forties, like myself and wants to have kids,
10:16Speaker 1testicles or balls anyway, to be honest with you. I know like people say that they don't care. I do.
10:26Speaker 1you know, Doctor. Stanley was on here and he talked a lot about the HCG and different angles and Will and I love this stuff. We've been talking about it for years and we continue to learn. We love having the TRT doctors and nurses and all on here. We continue to learn. We continue to gorge ourself on this and we bring them on here,
10:46Speaker 1obviously more for everybody because we learn so much. So hopefully you've seen that episode and if you didn't watch it. And
11:06Speaker 1because you ask what's your, what should be your markers. It's not 1 size fits all. I have really found through the years,
11:15Speaker 1my sweet spots. I won't even say it because it's not going to be your sweet spot. I've just found it. And, it's taken a long time to find it with a lot of trial and error, different dosage, different things and stuff like that. So go get your blood work done by a doctor that knows what they're talking about.
11:32Speaker 1And they are out there, they are growing. There are a lot of doctors now that are starting to see the importance of the testosterone and hormones and all that.
11:42Speaker 1Hope that answered it. We'll kill it on the 1st 1. So, yeah, hope that helps. The last little bit, like, right. He said, everybody is different, but
11:51Speaker 2range that you're kind of aiming for, I suppose, I think, well, that probably most tier 2 doctors are aiming for, most doctors probably aiming for is like 6 to 900. Okay.
12:09Speaker 2very dependent, but like I would, you know, I'd start off at 100 mg a week, then bump to 150 a week.
12:15Speaker 2See if that does it. The goal is less day, do as little as you can to achieve the desired result. And
12:22Speaker 2yeah, let's say maybe 101 hundred and 50, you know, there's no shame. I mean, if you need more, cool, you need more, right? Because we'll let go. The general
12:31Speaker 2thing is like 200, I do think is kind of a max TRT dose. Yeah. Max, max, max. I think about 3 to 400 is like the minimum anabolic dose. So at 200 or I mean at 300, maybe to 400
12:59Speaker 2And everybody is different on that. Some people just aromatize way more easy, you know, easier. Some present with certain side effects and some others don't. So you got to feel yourself. But yeah,
13:34Speaker 1now it seems to get sensitive and I've seen people online say the same. Any thoughts? That was an interesting question. I've never heard that. Have you? No. I'm
14:00Speaker 1I'm keeping my AOD because I love AOD and HGH. That's all. I've cut out everything. I'm trying to do a reboot even that. So I'm not even taking the Wolverine right now and I try to even cut that for a bit and just do a whole reboot. But my point in that is this, I've taken shitloads, and I am guy no prone dude, and not ever have I felt that. I think
14:27Speaker 1gyno is affected. So insulin spikes and things like that, in my opinion, affect it from my experience. If I'd eat a carb day, man, I would have that tingly and itchiness in my nipple.
14:43Speaker 1But to answer your question from my view point, and I did dig into this a little bit after because I was curious, I'd never heard that. So I did some research and I hadn't found anything that you should worry about, dude. I mean, there's always a what if and you could be an outlier, but I think you're good, dude. I don't think it's the BPC or TB. Okay. So I don't think there's no possible way.
15:07Speaker 2GHYNO. Right? It's not that's just that the answer there is is a quick easy no. That's not causing any gyno. Okay? Here's the deal though. Like, it is causing a lot of angiogenesis,
15:23Speaker 2it is it is it's really trying to make, well, things grow. Right? Make help you repair yourself. So
15:31Speaker 2is not so basically, if you already have gyno and you already have this gland that is swollen, right, that has a little bit of fat underneath it,
15:40Speaker 2you take high doses of BPC, and I'm just saying this is like, again, I have never nobody's ever told me but here's the theoretical possibility of You
15:49Speaker 2have this gland that's already there swollen. Okay? Now everything is getting a little bit more blood flow, right? Is not really swelling. Like, I'm not saying that that's inflammation,
16:05Speaker 2you know, that can maybe take what you just barely couldn't see right now to maybe pushes it out a little bit. So it's not making the actual gyno works, it is not building fat that is burn
16:20Speaker 2But it might make you kind of, Oh, hey, notice it a little bit more. It might make you feel it. Right? It makes sense.
16:27Speaker 2the people who you say online are doing this, like I would check, dude, I just don't trust anybody that's on Reddit. Like, who knows? They're probably, you know, it's guys like, I
16:37Speaker 2do BPC and I got, I know what a fuck. They're telling you 700 makes a test and they like, they leave that part out. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. It's the BPC. Right. So
16:46Speaker 2check the sources on that 1. Don't get caught up too much in the bandwagon, but there's that and like, hey, are you taking tests? Is there something that is raising your estrogen
17:14Speaker 2see what happens. Okay? Go 2 weeks without it and then reintroduce it at a lower at a lower dose. But it's not common if that happens and that's kind of the theoretical possibility.
17:26Speaker 2Alright. I'm a So number 3, hey guys, been watching the pod for a while and was wondering if you had any insight in bio regular regulators
17:47Speaker 2I have tried and used Cardellax for a while, and it is it's not really it's never gonna, like, repair you. It is just a signaling a peptide that well, it's not a peptide. Signaling
18:13Speaker 2And it only brings you back to normal kind of by a regulator. Right? It's like it's gonna try to bring body back back to normal, but not ever like super physiological
18:28Speaker 2I think that there's stuff out there that, I mean, I don't think these either of these can hurt that much, but I don't know. The Cadillacs
18:40Speaker 2They're never going to hurt you. Think it's worth a try if you got some serious problems, right? If you've been really, really trying, trying, trying to
18:54Speaker 2and none of that is working and you're really desperate, like, cool. You can add that in, but all those
19:29Speaker 1don't know. So, I mean, it's okay. I mean, like Will said, I mean, I've said it a 100 times. I'm a huge fan of the Wolverine, which for anybody that doesn't know is the BPC-157
19:41Speaker 1I think for any type of injury, you're good. You're golden. I think that's just man. I think that's the holy grail when it comes to that. I am continued to be blown away by that. The testogen, I mean, what, why? Like, what is it like, like meaning like, what are you taking it for? You got your Kisspeptin, you got your HCG.
19:59Speaker 1So they're similar in regards to that. I mean, I'm assuming you're trying to increase your testosterone
20:08Speaker 1do we answer that to the degree? Like, why would you take it? Because there's other stuff in my opinion that would do better.
20:14Speaker 1Kind of contingent upon what you're trying to do. Like, it's obviously to increase testosterone. Will and I are going to say 10 times out of 10, get on testosterone for the love of God. If it's,
20:30Speaker 1all 3. HCG is the winner in regards to that. So again, it's vague, hard to answer that, but there's better products in my opinion. Yeah, I think this is better stuff. Yeah. Okay. I
20:41Speaker 1stumbled upon the podcast and have binge listening to episodes by episode, and I'm so glad that you are doing this Q and A because I actually have a question.
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21:32Speaker 1and in need of revision. This time around, I don't want to have the same thing happen.
21:37Speaker 1And I want to use peptides before the surgery and after the surgery to ensure that the
21:49Speaker 1should I begin prior to the surgery and how long before the surgery should I be taking them? What peptides should I continue to use after the surgery in order to make sure this time around the scars along my
22:04Speaker 1and look the best. Do you want me to take that? Yes, but I will also add. Yeah, I'll go quick. So you got a, so
22:11Speaker 1obviously the Wolverine is what you're going to want to take when it comes to the scars. GHK-3C is going to be your best in regards to that.
22:24Speaker 1Snap 8 Face Serum and you're going to rub that right on the scar. That's going to be great. You want to take actual H or GHK-3two
22:46Speaker 1Shitloads of Wolverine, you know, with copper, you can overdo it on copper. So what I would say is kind of keep them separate if your pocketbook allows that.
23:07Speaker 1what can you afford? You know, the more that you can take, obviously you're going to expedite the healing of it. I think most people know about my surgery and how fast I healed and I took huge, huge, huge quantities
23:23Speaker 1had referred that to me. I was even blown away by it because I don't have a problem taking high doses of most peptides. I was even like, wow.
23:31Speaker 1But after I did and did what he said, I was truly blown away by how fast I healed. I was in the gym in 2 weeks and people were like, Dude, should you be lifting that much? And I'm like, I feel good. So
23:44Speaker 2Yeah, that's my answer. For sure. I 2nd that. I would say, I don't know, 4 weeks before, you said, but 3 weeks, maybe whatever.
23:58Speaker 2like I just mentioned, formation of new blood vessels, blood is life, right? More blood that goes to tissues, the better it heals, the better it looks, the better it feels, the better it functions, reduced
24:12Speaker 2healing of everything. Okay? So yeah, you nailed like BPC. So I would go 4, I'd do 4 weeks ahead of time, BPC and TB.
24:21Speaker 2No. Don't need the glove. No. Okay. So, sorry. I would not separate the BPC, TB. Yeah. Yeah. I would keep those together. I got no problem with that. Presurgery,
24:36Speaker 2is the 1 that you can't really don't wanna take too much of. Okay? So if you'd have to have them, if they're on the same bottle and you wanna take high doses of BPC and TB, sorry, you got to take the high doses of the GHKCU,
24:57Speaker 2BPC, TB as you want. As you should. As you should. Right. So, but I would like star wherever the star happens is going to be. Right?
25:05Speaker 2I would put you're kind of just trying to go make a triangle of injections daily around
25:10Speaker 2where the issue is, where the healing you want to take place. We're just saturating the area with.
25:22Speaker 2reducing inflammation. The TB-five hundred is bringing a whole bunch of stem cells in there, just telling to build, build, build, build, build. So saturated area beforehand and then 6 to 8 weeks post surgery, I definitely would,
25:51Speaker 2And as the name says, like, human growth hormone. So it is going to help your skin repair. Hell, when I'm taking that dude, I mean, I could
26:02Speaker 2fast. Okay, so including your skin, that's gonna help with everything. And I'd say 6 to 8 weeks post.
26:16Speaker 2Put it on there daily for sure. Yeah. It worked. And watch that watch that wound and not scar up.
26:30Speaker 2daily of BPC and TB is about as low as you want to go. I'd say up to 3 mg of each. Okay.
26:38Speaker 20.5 a milligram to 3 mg is the range. Don't go less than that. GHK CU, I'd say maybe 2.5 mg to 5 mg, 3 days a week.
26:49Speaker 1there you You can throw on top of that as you were talking, was thinking you can throw in some thymosin Alpha-one because that's going to be good for immunity and you're in surgery
27:00Speaker 1So do that, try that maybe. And it brings down inflammation. It's the best for bringing down inflammation. So, throw in some TA-one if you can afford that too. That'd be good. Yeah. Vitamin C is always good for scars.
27:15Speaker 2Who's that? Me? You are a no, I am. But I wanna make sure that I'm reading the right the full questions. Guys. Is the way I printed them out. Is this I'm a 41 year old female? No. It's, hey, guys. Alright. 4th down on the Let me see yours. I might have to read this from your sheet. Yeah, 2 the same. Hey guys, love the podcast. Thank you for what I'm doing, for what you do. I'm a 41 year old female here in SoCal. For some reason, mine, like, cut off the 1st sentence.
27:40Speaker 241 year old feel female here in SoCal. SoCal. I have that now. I just had labs done and it looks like I'm low in testosterone.
28:03Speaker 1That's where mine ends. Oh really? Yeah. I also started to MOTS-3C this past week that I'm hoping will help with energy, etcetera. I have also exercise and taking care of my body. My goal is to feel better, have energy, sex drive, and lose the last bit of my belly fat. Any recommendations
28:31Speaker 1the episode with Nurse Li that we just had on. We did that for you ladies because we, you know, we have
28:45Speaker 1I can probably speak for Will. We love sitting down and talking to people about this stuff. We learn so much. We are both so intrigued by this stuff. We learn every time and we love it. We could talk about it for hours.
28:58Speaker 1But mainly we bring those people on because they're educated, they're good at what they do. We know them personally. So, you know, when it comes to doctors and certain things, you know, like I I'll be blunt with you. I don't, I'm not the, I don't have the most respect for a lot of them in certain areas, hormone doctors and stuff in hormone areas, but these ones that we bring on, we do because we know them and we know that they're good at what they do. So if you have not heard that episode,
29:21Speaker 1it was the last 1 jump on there. And she dug into that type of stuff and she went in deep on that stuff and you're in SoCal.
29:35Speaker 1in Orange County. Well, one's in Chino Hills, one's in Orange County, and she would be happy
29:41Speaker 1to help you out with that. Yeah, for sure. And she does that. She does like testosterone. I know her well, but she has sure heart is just like, she truly tries to help everybody that we bring on the show. We know them personally. We know that they're legitly
30:00Speaker 1like, they know what they're talking about. They, they believe, you know what I mean? Like they're, they're, they're vetted is the best way to say that we know them well. That's why we bring them on and we're going to continue to do that because
30:10Speaker 1we love it. We know it's important for you guys and shoot, man, we learn more every single time we sit with them. I love it. So there you go. Yeah. I would agree. I don't know if so. Would 2nd that as far as some peptide MOTS-1C, awesome. I would really always try to pair that with
30:40Speaker 2some of the problems that some of those symptoms, I suppose that you're feeling with low testosterone until you can actually go get some real testosterone. Get it fixed. Easy fix. Now women need super duper duper low doses of testosterone. Okay.
30:54Speaker 2which is a woman turning into a man. That is a real problem. It will, you do too much, but
31:00Speaker 2know how to do it. You know, it's your fault if you have, if you get those problems because you overdid it, everybody.
31:07Speaker 2But MOTS-1s): Awesome. Tesamorelin right there. It's helping to burn visceral fat, help burn the belly fat
31:31Speaker 2you know, 8 weeks of Kisspeptin and then see the blood test again, see what it has done to testosterone.
31:37Speaker 1Yeah, my wife is, we're in the middle of, or middle, we're at the tail end of getting my son off breastfeeding.
31:45Speaker 1you know, she's about to go in and get her hormones tested and get all that stuff. And we're thinking about putting her on Kisspeptin, but she's going to get tested and like look at her levels and all But that
32:08Speaker 1Just give somebody like nurse Lee that knows what they're doing. I'm telling you, I've known her for so long. She travels the freaking world and studies this stuff. That's why I love her. So she's really good at that. So hit us up in numerous areas or just look on our social media. She's on there and I put her on there every time we post. So we're going You're
32:39Speaker 2yay. All right. Hey, guys. I absolutely love your podcast and have learned so much from you. Thank you for so generously sharing your knowledge and just being such great guys. My 24 year old daughter started on Tirzepatide about 3 months ago. She's 5 foot 4, started at 1 50. She is now down 20 pounds,
32:57Speaker 2Damn. 3 months ago, down 20 pounds and has lost 12% body fat. Right? She eats pretty clean, eats a pretty clean diet. I know it's hard to quantify and
33:09Speaker 2several days a week. I suggested she start on Tirzepatide because she had a lot of weight to lose.
33:14Speaker 2She'd like to lose 5 to 10 more pounds, but is now more concerned with gaining muscle. My thinking is to switch her to Retta to help her with the fat burn and appetite regulation. I've been on Reta for a few months and had amazing results. So what
33:27Speaker 2be good for her to add, to add, to build muscle? Also, side note, she has celiac and also has had
33:47Speaker 2Mom's been listening. So Yeah, mom. Hell, you're right on. You're right on you're right on there. Retta absolutely will help her. The problem with tirzepatide
33:54Speaker 2and semaglutide is people just don't eat. Okay? They don't really wanna eat anything. And so they
34:02Speaker 2mass in general, they're losing indiscriminately fat and muscle. Yeah. Retta allows you to actually have an appetite so you can eat some protein and therefore keep your keep muscle,
34:39Speaker 2lose those 5 to 10 pounds and not lose any more muscle. Right? Keep all that. And then maybe once you're down, once you're down there because to lose weight, you need to be in a calorie deficit.
35:18Speaker 2There's a long way for women, but it also goes a long way for women and can really help. We'll absolutely ensure you don't lose any muscle,
35:57Speaker 1gasping for breath. It is a compound that not that many people are taking that much anymore. So I'm not sure if you're getting it from a doctor or what, but
36:06Speaker 1is, there's a reason why it's the king dog because it freaking just is the king dog for a reason.
36:15Speaker 1Will already killed it on your, on that answer. Yes. Get it on the registry side. It is a far, far, far superior
36:27Speaker 1those 3 for a few months, man, it'll burn that right and pop her. She's young, she'll kill it. Yep. And we
36:37Speaker 2Weight training that she said she's already doing, right? Eating protein. So she's gonna, it's gonna be, you know, even more red, yeah, you have an appetite, but you should feel full faster. Okay, so that's the point. But make sure that food that you are eating is
36:50Speaker 2That's what muscles are made out of. If you don't eat protein, then it protects muscle.
36:59Speaker 2healthy sleep is huge to gain any muscle and to burn fat. Hell, so- It's always fun to say people, I mean healthy. What's that mean? What does that mean? Subject. You know, the 1 thing that we have learned, right, in this all these GLPs coming out is
37:19Speaker 2I'd say, you know, it's probably like, what's more effective? If you had to choose 1, right, that's maybe it's a 50 50 toss-up. Like, we now have learned because of trial and error, right? I've seen hundreds of people
37:30Speaker 2really be kick ass at working out, but their diet isn't very good. And they make some changes, right? But then we've seen way more people
37:38Speaker 2be terrible at working out. In fact, do nothing and do nothing but change their diet and they see huge results. And
37:51Speaker 2No. No, you don't. No, no. Until then you got on the GOP and now you started losing weight because that forced you to eat great.
37:58Speaker 2And so you didn't know most people don't know what eating great is. Well, so we've always had just,
38:04Speaker 1has been our life for so long. We loved it. And from sports to, you know, you learn about nutrition and stuff through sports just because you're kind of forced to, to a degree.
38:12Speaker 1Some people take it further, but anyways, when like with fitness training and helping people get in shape and whatnot,
38:18Speaker 1it's so funny that people just think you just need a workout. I'm going to work out. And they go to the gym and they work hard. They put like 2 weeks, like let's take the 1st of the year and everybody's, I'm going to work my ass off. They do, they're busting their ass. Their diet sucks and they don't see any benefits. There's been no drop in weight and then they give up. They do it wrong. You're doing it wrong. You got to start in the kitchen, man.
38:45Speaker 2hormones, all that stuff, man. And it takes a little bit of time. Like it's not as, but we're overweight overnight. Exactly. It took you this long, but
38:53Speaker 2to build those habits that got you that way. It takes, it's hard to, it's hard to establish new habits and be disciplined. Don't think, I definitely know that the losing weight or gaining muscle is like a domino effect. So people, Hey, I'm going to do 1 thing. They go, hell, 2 weeks, a month,
39:08Speaker 2maybe a month. And like, damn, I'm doing everything right. It's like, don't quit before the miracle happens. Right? In like literally 1 day
39:16Speaker 2your body goes, Oh, I get it. This is what we're trying to do. And then they start falling over and then they won't. Then I have people like who want to gain muscle,
39:24Speaker 2finally start gaining muscle. They're like, well, shit, now I just keep getting too big Yeah. Or the same way, like I can't stop this roller coaster I'm on. Sure. Which,
39:38Speaker 1the cool thing about that, and it took me a while to come around to it for, you know, before I really started studying them, because I've talked about neuroscience and Will was always saying, Hey, look into these, look into these. And I'm like, nah, dude. But anyways, the cool thing that I have found even with doing fitness with people and whatnot,
39:59Speaker 1grew up in the gym, I started lifting 0.125 grade and never stopped. I fell in love from the 1st bench press and it just never stopped.
40:05Speaker 1But that's not everybody. And like, there's people that have never even been in a gym. Like I structured my fitness program around that because there's guy knew that guys didn't want to go into the gym. You know what I mean? And, which is fine.
40:28Speaker 1it's your mind. It's like a trigger in your mind where it lights a fire in your soul or whatever. And like, I want more.
40:34Speaker 1That even if you don't work out and you lose a little bit of weight, it triggers something in your mind to eat better, work out more. And it's a snowball effect. And I think that's been the beauty about the GLP-1s. Now there are going be some people that sit on the couch and like, that's just silly because you're not trying to improve your life. Most people, I think get a taste of what it feels like to see improvement
41:00Speaker 2for sure. Know what I mean? They're a lot. That is the best. True. And that's what I guess the other thing was cool. It's not, it doesn't happen overnight, but
41:18Speaker 2anyway, it's like drugs and alcohol, those drugs, alcohol, sex, driving fast, those are immediate gratification. That's the word I was looking for. Working out is a pretty close 2nd, right, compared to anything else in this world that we get that gives
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42:00Speaker 2right? Like, it works pretty fast. Yeah. Hey, do you want gratification of having a great job that takes some years
42:07Speaker 2and years? Right? I want to be gratification of, I don't know, having a nice car. Well, you gotta get rich 1st, I suppose. That takes a long, long time. Right? But working out is pretty quick if you dive head 1st and,
42:22Speaker 2Really it just 3 months of hard work, You can change your life, change your life 90 days. You see a little bit and then you're like, Oh, there it is. Now it's working. Then you really 1 get into You start hanging out with people to go to the gym. You start hanging out with people that want to improve themselves. It's the law of attraction. It's my
42:37Speaker 1favorite saying with some total of 5 people we hang out with the most. If your friends are sitting on the couch and Doritos, change your friends. Seriously, like find people that are chasing growth, man. It's contagious.
42:50Speaker 1the glow 70 megs for 2 weeks and had injected site reactions each time, red welts, itchy, hot, etcetera.
42:57Speaker 1So I gave it a break for a week, gave it myself another injection after and to see if the reaction improved, but it did not. I'm assuming this was from the cup or yes, it is. My question is, was it suitable alternative?
43:11Speaker 1What is a suitable alternative that provides similar benefits? Our current stack is NAD plus and DSIP. My plan is to incorporate
43:20Speaker 1Vatalon once I've ran DSIP for 3 weeks. The goal is to get better sleep and have more energy and mental clarity. Would love to incorporate something
43:40Speaker 1mean, some of it's just part of the game. You know, Will has his big brain has created a
43:48Speaker 1water that you can use that will help with that. Would it help with the itchy welts? I think so. I
43:57Speaker 1some of that's part of the game. Think after time you're going to, it's going to kind of subside a bit anyway. I know you deal with NAD problems quite a bit. The ones that I ran into that are an issue. If I just keep doing it, they kind of subside in regards to the wealthy type stuff. I mean, I get GHK-
44:16Speaker 1It would just be like every few nights and I would get like a big wealth. I'd be walking up my stairs. I'm like, Oh man, that's a desert.
44:43Speaker 1Sleep. Let me talk about that a word. Cause I've been dealing with that and I've been doing a lot of research on it because man, it's my sleep has been so off for months and it's been really, really sucking the life out of me. So I've
44:55Speaker 1been digging into it and doing a lot of research on my end on trying to figure it out. So here's some of the things that I've been doing, that have been working for me and they might be a little woo woo to some, but I don't care. I'm open minded and try things. So,
45:09Speaker 1I've read that just right when the sun comes up, take your shoes off and go walk in grass,
45:22Speaker 1And I did it, whether it placebo or not. I have been sleeping great. That's been working. I've cut down to the basics.
45:39Speaker 1in the morning. I don't look at my phone for an hour and I haven't for a long time, but at night I look
45:44Speaker 1at that sucker until the 2nd I put it on my thing. So I've now given myself about an hour to not do that. And so the last week I have slept freaking amazing. I feel
45:55Speaker 1so much better. I feel so much like myself. I finally feel like just me again. I was struggling for months.
46:04Speaker 1I would say try it. It works for me. I don't care if it's woo woo or placebo or not. It works.
46:23Speaker 2on me. DSIP, cool. That's what it's gonna do, right? It's not gonna make you drool on yourself and pass out, right? It is going to all
46:36Speaker 2You're doing the right thing there, but yeah, there's some lifestyle changes. My problem
46:44Speaker 2try to like, all right, I get home from work. I got to get all these things in, right? And up to the point of like, okay, I can give 3 more things in bed while I'm on my laptop. Right. And then
46:59Speaker 2I knew that I'm like, damn it. If I would've just said, not be productive. Right. If I would've just said
47:15Speaker 2yeah, lifestyle changes like that, But I mean, as far as peptides go, I was going to say NAD,
47:25Speaker 2she should stop on the GHK? Oh, okay. Yes, yes, it's the copper. Like I would try mixing it with no sting water.
47:34Speaker 2that doesn't happen, some people get a little histamine reaction to 2 things, Now you got BPC, TB, and
47:41Speaker 2maybe some of that little mix of them is igniting a histamine reaction. Who knows? My chances are I think it is just the copper uncomfortableness.
47:50Speaker 2And frankly, if you're getting just a little bit of redness and itching, that's better than most.
48:08Speaker 2see if you do it, take it like a Benadryl right beforehand and do that injection and see if that reaction happens. You- Probably Clo,
48:22Speaker 2KPV. That helps with that stuff. But also BPC for skin. Shoot, dude. Talking about angiogenesis, creating new blood vessels, right? If it's creating new blood vessels in the skin level, your skin's gonna be healthier.
48:40Speaker 2a good supplement for, like, hair, skin, and nails, and I'm gonna read you these ingredients because I can't pronounce a lot of them. No. Just
49:04Speaker 1Yeah. But everything else you covered. This dude sitting here literally made up this no sting water. So he's a pretty bright guy and it really does work. We're not just saying that it works. The topical serum, topical serum, like, right. Put the SNAP-8GHK
49:19Speaker 2CU serum just right on your face. I think that that's the glaring ones right at us. You up? I'm up. Let me steal your paper. Yep.
49:32Speaker 2Am I here? The new to peptides? Okay. New to peptides and loving it. Love it so much that I want to get my dad on them. Little background story because details are important. He's had multiple back and neck surgeries in the past to help him mitigate nerve pain, muscle weakness, and improve his walking balance. The last back surgery he had at 8 hour intensive went south and crashed twice in the OR, jeez, and was on a ventilator for 5 to 6 days. After that, the doc realized the blood thinner heparin actually had an adverse reaction on his system and clotted blood rather than thinning it. Wow, sweet.
50:06Speaker 2All to say he's been through the rigor. Since then he's made progress in physical therapy and is now completely off of blood thinners. My thought is that BPC-157
50:17Speaker 2maybe a last ditch effort to relieve his nerve pain. I know JD has had multiple back surgeries as well, so I'd like to know, 1, would BPC and or TB be a good fit for him? Yes. 2,
50:30Speaker 2it may not be suitable for people who have blood clotting thinning issues due to the creation of new vessels to transport blood to inflamed areas? Maybe.
50:51Speaker 2don't, to yeah, be honest, like I don't know the severity. I mean, I guess in theory, right? Maybe.
50:57Speaker 1I would say if it was my dad, I would, I'll answer if it was my dad because I can't answer for your dad. That's, you know, and like, we're not doctors, obviously.
51:14Speaker 1I get where you're coming from and I see the logic in that, but I don't think that you would have a problem with it. I think it's going to be more positive
51:23Speaker 1Everything's a risk to reward and you can only answer that yourself. So what you feel comfortable with, if it's gonna like, you're gonna give it to him and it's gonna screw with your head, you're gonna be super worried, then don't. You know, if it's going to be, you're going to be worried that it's doing that or this.
51:37Speaker 1Again, this is just somewhat of a guess. I think that anybody could answer that. I don't think you need to worry about it as much.
51:45Speaker 1I think it's going to do really good for him. It's going to expedite the healing. It's going to do so much. It's my favorite compound by a mile.
51:54Speaker 1That's my answer, man. I would feel comfortable giving it to my old man in that situation. Yeah.
52:16Speaker 2So that's all I can tell you. Probably the appropriate answer is like, if it's an actual answer to you, you know, ask your doctor about it. Okay?
52:36Speaker 2But the worry then is the BPC is going to potentially let blood flow a little bit more freer and therefore act as like what a blood thinner might do. And I guess that was the good thing. That wasn't the problem at the beginning.
53:00Speaker 1Okay, Europe. My up. Number 9. What's up? Great podcast. Super informative and not overly med technical.
53:34Speaker 1I think that's an easy 1, man. I mean, I don't what's too much? I don't know. I mean, always affordability is gonna play a role if you can afford it. I say you can do it. I mean, if you're, you could also pull those out and up the Reta, that would probably be your quickest bet, to be honest with you. To be honest with you, you could literally just go up to MIG 3 times a week, and I think that's going to get you to the end zone quicker and
53:56Speaker 1So I would probably do that now that I'm reading this. I didn't think of that until I'm reading this, but to answer your direct question, can you do MOTS-1s): Is a no overkill?
54:05Speaker 1I don't think so. Even close MOTS-1s): MOTS-1S-1s): And slew are 2 of my favorites and they will definitely help
54:13Speaker 2Yeah, I would agree. I think I think that I would hold those and I would increase Zaretta for fast results. And then you got those for when it's time to get off the others, right, and kind of cycle off those and now add these 2 in. There is potentially such thing as kind of like metabolic overload where you're just taking so many damn
54:48Speaker 2but there is such thing as just too much, much. Right? And I do think, yeah, less is more a few, you know, 3, 3 bed duds
54:57Speaker 1cycle 3, 3 to 4 months and then pull them and put 3 to 4 in their place. When I've talked about this, we've thrown it out a couple of times and there's numerous reasons why I've downshifted and
55:17Speaker 1even if we'd done it, but it doesn't matter on, we just want to do 1 and we want to do it for, I don't know, what did we say? 60 days or Probably 2 months, probably give or take. Then, but we wanted to get like a really hands on how we both feel at the same time and kind of just talk through it. And, so 1 of the reasons I've kind of unwinded
55:39Speaker 1not plural A peptide, yeah, what's it doing is, you know, I mean, I've taken so much for so long.
55:47Speaker 2from scratch. Yeah. For sure. I think that's good. I think yes. And I think good for you. I'm doing that also.
55:57Speaker 2What's up? Great podcast. Super informative and not only okay. You already read that? What's up, you pair of legends? I'm coming to you all the way from Bonny, Scotland. Whoo. Been following your pod for some time now and preach about you guys to anyone who will listen. Thank you. That's so cool. So I have surgery coming up to repair 2 bulging herniated discs,
56:18Speaker 2The pain I'm in is incredible. No shit. My question relates to my current stack and some upcoming,
56:48Speaker 2once recovery is done, I want to get back to the gym to rebuild the muscle I've lost though through not being able to train suggestions for them. My pocketbook isn't massive, but I'd certainly be able to add a few others if you think they'll help. Keep up the amazing enlightening work you do. Big love and God bless. Huge, man. That is cool. Scotland?
57:29Speaker 2Absolutely. I was bedridden and, I mean, for months and had 2 epidurals. Those didn't do a damn thing.
57:40Speaker 2Oh my god. And in past, I mean, I'm paranoid about it now too. And I know I can start to feel in my butt, right, a little like, and
57:50Speaker 2so what I do is I go to the gym and I do all the girl exercises. Right? I do like the weighted
58:01Speaker 2it's because I need to, like, build my glutes up. Right? I gotta keep those glutes firing and strong. Right. And then there won't be this push pull imbalance or sometimes if I'll do, heavy abs, my abs are really sore, but I hadn't activated my glutes yesterday.
58:14Speaker 2Then my abs are, like, pulling me forward and pulling things out of line, you know? So I try to keep front and back pretty even,
58:24Speaker 2what I would say is hell so cardiac post surgery, I think we talked about CARLLAX right then and there is a very good use of CARLLAX, right?
58:33Speaker 2This bio regular, it shouldn't be done all the time. In fact, it's pointless to be done more than 2, 3 times a year, but after a trauma and especially to a
58:45Speaker 2right? Organ, it's not an organ, but right cartilage system, Cartilax is great to tell the Wolverine stack where the hell to go and heal.
58:55Speaker 2before and after just like we answered the last question, right? I'd say 4 weeks before and 4 to 6 weeks after.
59:07Speaker 2post surgery and you're asking, am I going do to put on muscle that you lost? There it is. It'll work really well. Eat, lift, and
59:28Speaker 1it's always a little bit for me. If mid thirties, if it's 35 plus, I'll say HGH for sure. TRT for sure.
59:42Speaker 1You'll eat, you'll be hungry. I don't know, take it for like 60 days. It'll do its thing in 60 days, but we'll nail that man. High doses of the Wolverine. It'll help you expedite that, man. I'm sorry, man. That is pain that if you've never felt it, you can't understand it. It controls
1:00:04Speaker 1let us know how you do, man. God bless you back dude. And let us know how you do when you're done with the surgery. Keep us posted. Yeah. All right. Last question.
1:00:33Speaker 2these different med clinics. The lipo C, they would call them like key shots. Right?
1:00:39Speaker 2Different lipo Cs have different things, but I think that what they're describing is the traditional should be like L carnitine, then MYC and B12. And the MYC is methionine,
1:00:56Speaker 2internal visceral fat and help clean out your liver. Okay? Get the fat off of your liver,
1:01:08Speaker 2You're healthier than your living liver functions better and everything functions better if your liver functions better.
1:01:20Speaker 2Yeah. Just good energy, brain, and body. L carnitine just helps body your body kinda go into the state of keto where where it prioritizes fat 1st,
1:01:48Speaker 2better things out there. I think it's almost like more of like a general health. Yeah. People love their L carnitine. I mean, it's a great, great, great, great compound, but man, I just can't do it. It's just, you know, inject too much. I try. So those are good. So that's good. I got, I don't really have anything bad to say other than
1:02:05Speaker 2there's better there's better stuff. It's a good it's a good add on if you're going for like a general health or cutting stack. It's usually done intramuscularly.
1:02:18Speaker 2and not make it your primary, like, I'm gonna put all my eggs in this basket and I'm gonna lose weight with this thing.
1:02:24Speaker 1It's not. What do you inject that? I use intramuscular. I know, I know. I'm being like, is that daily? Because L carnitine is daily. So you do B12 is like once a week. So do you do that on a I don't, I think it's 3 times a week to twice a week. Yeah.
1:02:38Speaker 2Cool. Good stuff. You know, I mean, you say that, but it's got ill quarantine in it. Right? So every day. But my guess is that these clinics that are selling this are going for 2 to 3 times a week. Yeah. Probably burns.
1:02:54Speaker 1was that stuff you gave me years ago, dude, where it was supposed to be B12 and like I took it, I'm like, what the hell is that? It was burning out of me. It was like a multivitamin
1:03:03Speaker 1plus this. It was this. It was brutal, bro. It had about 20 different ingredients. It was brutal. That shit. I was like, that hurt.
1:03:10Speaker 2Pretty tough guy. Sometimes it's the benzalkyl, like you're mixing that many vitamins in there. You need to put a good amount of benzalkyl to keep them together and to keep it sterile. Right? And that's what burns.
1:03:25Speaker 1Paul back to you on the podcast again, and we're going to be talking about what's going on in the peptide world.
1:03:35Speaker 1has an inside view of a lot of things. So we want to pull him back on and pick his brain on camera.
1:03:51Speaker 1we will have the access and we will have our circle open. So jump on, we'll have numerous areas where you can find it. Jump on, post stuff down the front. We will be on there. Our team, all of us will be talking to you. It's going to be cool, man. You can post your wins. You can post pictures of your family. You can post pictures of your stacks. Don't matter where you can post whatever you want. We
1:04:10Speaker 1will respond. We're looking at them and we will try and we'll do the same. We've already told our team to start getting on there and posting man, and let's just start getting this algorithm flowing and let's start getting the flow of it. We're excited.
1:04:21Speaker 1I think you will love it. I think that we've been trying really to give access to us on a direct level to where we can answer some questions. Sometimes we'll be on there and vice versa, some of the team, but we'll try to answer every 1 of your damn questions, baby.
1:04:34Speaker 2Updates. So like some of you may or may not know, like I had a hair transplant, but 6 weeks ago, This is what it looks like. It's good. Pretty damn good. Tell me he looks he should leave his hair like that. Yeah.
1:04:45Speaker 2So my hair MD, like if anybody has questions or wants to know, they did a damn, they did a great job. It's a labor intensive process. It was in San Diego.
1:05:03Speaker 2Like, they bring you in and actually do you know, it's not just like a straight across
1:05:10Speaker 2make it kind of jagged. They even go into this much detail where they will as they pull the donor hairs, right, they most of our hairs,
1:05:18Speaker 2you have your little follicle to come with 2 hair follicles. I think that's what those are called.
1:05:25Speaker 2you know, you'll have 10. I don't know. But sometime, a lot of times you'll also have 1. So they do,
1:05:30Speaker 2they go in that much detail where they find the ones that it's only 1 hair and then replant
1:05:36Speaker 2only those ones on the hairline. So they can point that 1 hair the right direction and not have like 2 going
1:05:49Speaker 2was that in the peptide sciences. Yeah, Here's my guess. I don't know what Paul is going say, but
1:06:04Speaker 1excited about this because we haven't really had a lot of conversations with him yet. He's been busy, so we're excited to kind of break this down. And we always have good conversations with him. He knows a lot about a lot. We love him. He's a good friend of ours,