Peptide Q&A #32 – Low Testosterone, Surgery Recovery Stacks, Female Hormones & Fat Loss Protocols Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-32-low-testosterone-surgery-recovery-stacks-female-hormones-fat-loss/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:00 Speaker 0: Chronic migraine: 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more, can make me feel like a spectator in my own life. Botox, onabotulinum 0:08 Speaker 2: toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month. 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Ask your doctor, visit botoxchronicmigraine.com, 0:57 Speaker 0: or call one-eight hundred-44Botox 0:59 Speaker 0: to learn more. 1:01 Speaker 3: Low energy, unfocused, 1:03 Speaker 3: foggy? You might be dehydrated. 1:05 Speaker 3: Whether it's hot yoga, over 100 degree weather, or too much sun. Gator Lite, with a specialized blend of 5 electrolytes, 1:13 Speaker 3: was scientifically designed to help move fluids into the body faster for rapid rehydration. 1:18 Speaker 3: Shop now at retailers nationwide. 1:21 Speaker 3: Lite hydrates faster than water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration. 1:27 Speaker 3: Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. 1:38 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Pep Tide of the Week Podcast. 1:42 Speaker 3: I'm your host, JD Denham across the way, Mr. William T. Haws. 1:47 Speaker 3: What's up, dude? What's up? Hello, sir. We call those Willisms. So Will and I, exciting 1:54 Speaker 3: day for us. We've talked about this on this podcast for months 1:58 Speaker 3: and it's not the easiest feat to complete. We've been busy. We're juggling a lot of things, but we've talked about it. And finally, 2:05 Speaker 3: I think tomorrow or the next day, but when you listen to this, it will be dropped. We got our forum, 2:11 Speaker 3: our 1 circle, 2:13 Speaker 3: our 2:14 Speaker 3: website. What do you even call it exactly? What's the proper platform 2:18 Speaker 4: platform in 2:19 Speaker 4: circle. 2:20 Speaker 3: Our own. 2:21 Speaker 3: So we are 2:23 Speaker 3: tired of getting dinged on social media. Were tired. I mean, we had a video on podcasts on YouTube getting taken down for nothing. I mean, I had a video taken down for fasting and I wasn't able to post for a week. It's like fasting video. So anyways, listen, we're stoked. We've done well on social media. It's been a blessing to us, but at the same time, there's a catch-twenty 2 part because 2:46 Speaker 3: what they say they do and sometimes we get dinged and we don't like being delivered out. So anyways, we have our own platform. 2:53 Speaker 3: We'll be dropping it in all of our social media things. You'll be able to find it easy. We'll be talking about it constantly, 3:00 Speaker 3: but we want to pull you off social media where we have to be vague and tiptoe around things. 3:07 Speaker 4: And we can talk to you bluntly. We can talk to you about 3 whatever we Whatever you want. We don't have to give you watered down and like, I'm not really going to say that go into this detail. Right? It doesn't have to be watered down. Right. 3:18 Speaker 4: Yes. How exciting. So we can do whatever 3:21 Speaker 3: we want within reason. Well, it's just funny because what you don't see behind cameras and what you don't see 3:27 Speaker 3: about our lives, which is almost a daily occurrence is Will and I sitting down and thinking, Hey man, should we do this or should we not do this? We talk through like 3:37 Speaker 3: maneuvering around 3:38 Speaker 3: the social media world of 3:41 Speaker 3: what can we say, what can we not say? There's no rules written down so we don't have to deal with that anymore. Yeah. And if you ever, if 3:48 Speaker 4: you ever message any of us and we don't respond, that's because we're on like a shadow band and we can't see anybody's messages because 3:55 Speaker 4: we said a word that wasn't like, 3:59 Speaker 4: I have no idea why it'd be problematic anyway. We don't even say, don't know. No. 4:05 Speaker 3: Finish the word. We just say supplements. 4:07 Speaker 4: Yeah. We got creative. We've been So it'll be cool. There will be a whole lot of extra info. And like, yeah, the point is to 4:14 Speaker 4: give the people, like, real information. Right. Right? That is the absolute sugarcoated, like, vague really 4:20 Speaker 4: do that. And we started this whole thing really just kind of wanting to, I don't know, a, we love talking about this stuff, but, yeah, wanted to disseminate as much 4:29 Speaker 4: information as possible. And 4:33 Speaker 3: and we have a lot of value and info to give. Yeah. So we're excited. We think you guys will be excited. We'll pull you out off the social media onto our own platform and you'll have access to us, 4:46 Speaker 3: to the team, ask all the questions that you want, be able to post on the front page, be able to post wins, be able to post all kinds of stuff. I'm excited. It's great. 4:55 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Well, today is the Q and A episode, always our favorite, and seems like you guys like it a lot as well because we to kind of feel each other and see what you're interested in and where we like to answer these types of questions. So this is a good 1. You wanna start us off like always? Number 1. 5:13 Speaker 4: Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for all the information you guys provide. 5:18 Speaker 4: So that's, we're using that call now, but this page 1. 5:23 Speaker 4: I'm 30 year old male and recently had my testosterone levels checked and they came back at a 3 14 5:29 Speaker 4: total 5:30 Speaker 4: and 8. My 5:32 Speaker 4: doctors seem to think that these are perfectly normal, refuses to run my any other tests regardless of my symptoms, fatigue, lack of morning erections, and anxiety. I'm wondering 5:42 Speaker 4: if I do go to a telemedicine clinic, 5:45 Speaker 4: dosages would help me bring my levels to an optimal range? I'm extremely active with a physical job and lift 4 to 5 times a week. Currently on RET, I lose some extra fat. Also, fertility is not a concern as I do not wish to have any more children. So is HCG 6:02 Speaker 4: necessary? 6:04 Speaker 4: Alright. So 1st, 6:06 Speaker 4: my quick answer is 6:08 Speaker 4: the doctor So a lot of these doctors, especially in HMOs, 6:11 Speaker 4: right, they have strict prescribing recommendations 6:14 Speaker 4: that is given to them by their bosses, HMOs, like Kaiser and such. 6:20 Speaker 4: They have to conform to the rules that 6:22 Speaker 4: the board and administration forces them to conform to. 6:26 Speaker 4: Because 3 14 is inside of that reference range and other hospitals, whatever, some other people or people are just don't know, so they want to play it, doctors want to play it super duper conservative. And 6:36 Speaker 4: you know, the reference range is something like 6:40 Speaker 4: 2 50 to 6:41 Speaker 4: like 900 or something like that. Okay. You're good. So basically they're saying like anything up above 2 50, sorry, we're not doing no, you don't fall with that. Year old. Now, again, as we know, like all these reference ranges, it's like, it's 6:54 Speaker 4: similar to It fits somewhere in here. Exactly. Well, yeah, it's somewhere in here plus plus this is what average Americans are. Right? But we know, so this is like, if you're in the average American range, like that's bad. You're not healthy. 7:05 Speaker 4: You know, it's like doing a BMI test. Right. Okay. 7:09 Speaker 4: Those BMI tests are only for Ubers, uber skinny and really, really obese. Yeah. You know, I mean, it says a BMI test tells me that I am like morbidly obese. Right. 7:21 Speaker 4: Because all it takes into consideration is height, 7:24 Speaker 4: weight, 7:25 Speaker 4: age, and sex. Right? It has no idea what composition 7:29 Speaker 4: that weight comes from. Right. Muscle or fat. Right. But so same kind of premise basically on these reference range tests. So hell yeah, you need to go see somebody else. You need to go see doctors, clinics who 7:40 Speaker 4: specialize 7:41 Speaker 4: in 7:42 Speaker 4: testosterone, 7:43 Speaker 4: okay? Because they will prescribe on your symptoms, not on your test score. 7:47 Speaker 4: And your symptoms seem to be pretty clear so far. Right? 3 14 is too low. No wonder. 7:54 Speaker 4: I think it is. Right? No wonder you're getting fatigue and lack of morning erections and anxiety. Okay? HCG, 7:59 Speaker 4: is it necessary? Frankly, like, 8:02 Speaker 4: yeah, in an indirect way, it can actually help fertility, but like over time you do testosterone and 8:08 Speaker 4: our testes 8:09 Speaker 4: slow down their production and you will physically see decreased 8:13 Speaker 4: size of your testes. Okay? 8:16 Speaker 4: It's also decreasing your fertility and natural ability for testosterone output. 8:21 Speaker 4: Okay? So yes, HCD is necessary, 8:24 Speaker 4: right? Because you are, if you're taking tests, they're going to slow down, right? The less tests you take, the slower they slow down. Yep. Okay. The longer you take it, obviously the more that they will, smaller they will be. So I do think the HCG run concurrently with testosterone is a good idea. 8:40 Speaker 4: And then as far as your like doses, I don't know. I mean, and then when you get your blood test, 8:45 Speaker 4: do not just get your total tea and free tea, right? You need your like sex hormone binding globulin, like luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone, 8:55 Speaker 4: estradiol prolactin, thyroid, DHEA, cortisol, lipids, and metabolic and other metabolic markers. Okay. And there's more, but 9:03 Speaker 4: 0 That's 9:04 Speaker 4: lot. That's good because 0 also let's make sure to attack why that testosterone is low. Right? A lot of times at 9:12 Speaker 4: 30. Holy moly shit. Yeah. Yeah. What the hell? So lack of stress, lack of sleep, lack of nutrition, right? Hey, people who are on Reto or Trozeptide, Semaglutide 9:23 Speaker 4: more commonly in the past, you're not eating enough food. Okay. Your body's not getting enough nutrients and it's not going to be as optimally healthy. Okay? That is gonna your testosterone will suffer if you're just not 9:35 Speaker 4: getting nutrients that you should be getting. So sleep, if I didn't mention sleep, that's probably 1 of the bigger damn things. Huge. I know. You know, do fasting, cold tubs, 9:44 Speaker 4: go through some rough things in your life like that are not damaging rough things. I don't develop a drug addiction, but- Do hard shit. Do hard shit and it makes you harder. That's good. That was great, man. You killed it. I'll be brief because you killed that mic drop. 9:58 Speaker 3: Man, 30 years old, holy moly. I'll tell you from the standpoint of this brother, I got sober at 33, so 10:05 Speaker 3: everything to me is pre and post sobriety. 10:08 Speaker 3: You say you don't want any more kids as did I. I got sober at 33 and there was no way in hell I would have any more kids and I meant every word of it. I was a 100% 10:18 Speaker 3: sure. 10:19 Speaker 3: But 30, I know you think you're old, that is very young and you got a long way to go, dude. 10:26 Speaker 3: And you might want to have kids. You hope to God you don't ever get divorced if you're divorced. That's what I'm saying. But people 10:33 Speaker 3: change, things change. 10:35 Speaker 3: If another lady comes into your life in your forties, like myself and wants to have kids, 10:40 Speaker 3: you're going to wish that you got on and stayed on that HCG. 10:44 Speaker 3: I don't want to have tiny 10:46 Speaker 3: testicles or balls anyway, to be honest with you. I know like people saying that they don't care. I do. 10:52 Speaker 3: So 10:53 Speaker 3: that's kind of why I take it, you know, 10:56 Speaker 3: know, Doctor. Stanley was on here and he talked a lot about the HCG and different angles and Will and I love this stuff. We've been talking about it for years and we continue to learn. We love having the TRT doctors and nurses and all on here. We continue to learn. We continue to gorge ourself on this and we bring them on here, 11:14 Speaker 3: not just for us, 11:15 Speaker 3: obviously more for everybody because we learn so much. So hopefully you've seen that episode and if you didn't watch it. And 11:22 Speaker 3: the 1 with Doctor. Scott and the 1 with Nurse Lee, because we've all, we've had 3 11:28 Speaker 3: nurses and doctors on here 11:30 Speaker 3: where they talk about testosterone replacement, 11:33 Speaker 3: HCG, 11:34 Speaker 3: estrogen, 11:35 Speaker 3: and all of that stuff, 11:36 Speaker 3: because you ask what's your, what should be your markers. It's not 1 size fits all. I have really found through the years 11:45 Speaker 3: my sweet spots. I won't even say it because it's not going to be your sweet spot. I've just found it and it's taken a long time to find it with a lot of trial and error, different dosage, different things and stuff like that. So go get your blood work done by a doctor that knows what they're talking about. 12:01 Speaker 3: And 12:02 Speaker 3: they are out there, they are growing. There are a lot of doctors now that are starting to see the importance of the testosterone and hormones and all that. 12:12 Speaker 3: Hope that answered it. We'll killed it on the 1st 1. So, yeah, hope that helps. The last little bit, like, right. He said, everybody is different, but 12:19 Speaker 4: the general 12:21 Speaker 4: range that you're kind of aiming for, I suppose, I think, well, that probably most doctors 12:26 Speaker 4: are aiming for, most doctors probably aiming for is like 6 to 900. Okay. I 12:33 Speaker 4: try to live at like 900, 12:35 Speaker 4: but to each his own and at what dose 12:38 Speaker 4: That's very dependent, but like I would, you know, I'd start off at 100 mg a week. Yeah. Then bump to 150 a week. 12:45 Speaker 4: See if that does it. The goal is less day, do as little as you can to achieve the desired result. 12:52 Speaker 4: And, yeah, let's say maybe 100, hundred and 50, you know, there's no shame. I mean, if you need more, cool, you need more. Right? 12:58 Speaker 4: Because we love you. General thing is like 200, 13:03 Speaker 4: I do think is kind of a max TRT dose. Yeah. Max, max, max. I think about 3 to 400 is is like the minimum anabolic dose. So at 200 or, I mean, at 300, maybe to 400 13:14 Speaker 4: mgs a week of any testosterone. 13:16 Speaker 4: Okay? They're all the same. 13:18 Speaker 4: Then we really start popping muscles out. 13:21 Speaker 3: You're, you know, yeah. With other problems. Then 13:25 Speaker 4: you start really starting to see estrogen side effects. And 13:29 Speaker 4: everybody is different on that. Some people just aromatize way more easy, you know, easier. 13:34 Speaker 4: Some present with certain side effects and some others don't. So you got to feel yourself, but yeah, 13:41 Speaker 3: that was good enough. Good stuff, man. Been taking BPC-1Mg 13:45 Speaker 3: daily and TB-5002.5 13:48 Speaker 3: mg, 2 times weekly. 13:50 Speaker 3: I bumped up the dose recently to 3 mg a day of BPC and noticed old gyno from teen steroids 14:00 Speaker 3: use reactivating. 14:02 Speaker 3: Even on low dose BPC, 14:04 Speaker 3: now it seems to get sensitive and I've seen people online say the same. Any thoughts? That was an interesting question. I've never heard that. Have you? No. I'm 14:15 Speaker 3: super gyno prone. I mean, I and I take a shit ton of BPC. I mean, BPC and TB-five hundred are my favorites. I basically 14:23 Speaker 3: right 14:24 Speaker 3: now for March have 14:26 Speaker 3: basically I'm on a TRT, 14:29 Speaker 3: 180 mg TRT. I'm keeping my AOD because I love AOD and HGH. That's all. I've cut out everything. I'm trying to do a reboot even that. So I'm not even taking the Wolverine right now. I try to even cut that for a bit and just do a whole reboot. But my point in that is this, I've taken shitloads, man, and I am gyno prone dude, and not ever have I felt that. I think 14:50 Speaker 3: what you should look at is diet. 14:53 Speaker 3: I've noticed if like I 14:55 Speaker 3: eat a lot of carbs, 14:57 Speaker 3: gyno is affected. So insulin spikes and things like that, in my opinion, affect it from my experience. If I'd eat a carb day, man, I would have that tingly and itchiness in my nipple. 15:08 Speaker 3: So 15:09 Speaker 3: think on that. I don't know if that's the case. How are you eating? How's your diet? 15:13 Speaker 3: But to answer your question from my view viewpoint, and I did dig into this a little bit after because I was curious, I'd never heard that. So I did some research and I hadn't found anything that you should worry about, dude. I mean, there's always a what if and you could be an outlier, but I think you're good, dude. I don't think it's the BPC or TB. Okay. So I don't think there's no possible way. 15:32 Speaker 4: There's 15:33 Speaker 4: no possible way that BPC is 15:36 Speaker 4: causing 15:37 Speaker 4: GHYNO. Right? It's not that's just that the answer there is is a quick easy no. That's not causing any gyno. Okay? Here's the deal though, like, is causing a lot of angiogenesis, 15:49 Speaker 4: which means they means formations of new blood vessels. Okay? It's, 15:53 Speaker 4: it is it is it's really trying to make, well, things grow, right, make help you repair yourself. So 16:01 Speaker 4: it is not so basically, if you already have gyno and you already have this gland that is swollen, right, that has a little bit of fat underneath it, 16:10 Speaker 4: You take high doses of BPC, and I'm just saying this is like, I get, have never, nobody's ever told me this, but here's the theoretical possibility of You 16:19 Speaker 4: have this gland that's already there swollen, okay? Now everything is getting a little bit more blood flow, right? Is not really swelling, like I'm not saying that that's inflammation, 16:28 Speaker 4: but hey, new blood vessels, 16:31 Speaker 4: new blood flow, 16:33 Speaker 4: trying to build new tissue, 16:35 Speaker 4: you know, that can maybe take what you just barely couldn't see, right? Now to maybe pushes it out a little bit. So it's not making the actual gyno works. It is not building fat that is burn offable. 16:49 Speaker 3: Right? 16:50 Speaker 4: But it might make you kind of, Oh, hey, notice it a little bit more. It might make you feel it. Right? Makes sense. I can see that. Also 16:57 Speaker 4: the people who you say online are doing this, I would check, dude, I just don't trust anybody that's on Reddit. Like, who knows? They're probably, you know, it's guys like, 17:07 Speaker 4: I do BPC, I got, I know what a fuck. They're telling you 700 makes a test and they'd like, they leave that part out. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. It's the BPC. Right. So, you know, check the sources on that 1. Don't get caught up too much in the bandwagon, but there's that and like, Hey, are you taking tests? Right? Is there something that is raising your estrogen 17:26 Speaker 4: naturally? Like he basically said, that's what I would be looking at more so than the BPC. Try to change some other factors and 17:34 Speaker 4: hell, 17:35 Speaker 4: why don't you lower the, the, now you said even when you lower it, it starts to happen. Okay. 17:40 Speaker 4: Maybe give yourself like, maybe just stop the BPC, 17:44 Speaker 4: see what happens. Okay. Go 2 weeks without it and then reintroduce it at a lower, at a lower dose. 17:49 Speaker 4: But it's not common if that happens and that's kind of the theoretical possibility. 17:56 Speaker 4: Right. So number 3, hey guys, been watching the pod for a while and 18:00 Speaker 4: was wondering if you had any insight in bio regular regulators 18:04 Speaker 4: like Testogen 18:06 Speaker 4: and Kardalax? 18:08 Speaker 3: Okay. 18:09 Speaker 4: So 18:10 Speaker 4: did, those are both bio regulators, which means they're really short, 18:14 Speaker 4: amino acid chains. 18:17 Speaker 4: I have tried and used Kardalax for a while and 18:22 Speaker 4: it's never going to like repair you. It is just a signaling a peptide that well, it's not a peptide, signaling 18:29 Speaker 4: kind of is because that's a chain of amino acids. It's just a really short chain 18:33 Speaker 4: That is going to really kind of tell body, 18:36 Speaker 4: this is what needs to be repaired, right? It itself doesn't do much repairing, 18:42 Speaker 4: and it only brings you back to normal kind of by a regulator, right? It's like, it's gonna try to bring body back back to normal, but not ever like super physiological 18:53 Speaker 4: levels. 18:54 Speaker 4: K? 18:55 Speaker 4: Testogen, I have not used. 18:58 Speaker 4: I think that there's stuff out there that I mean, I don't think these either of these can hurt that much, but I don't basically the Cadillacs 19:05 Speaker 4: didn't really it was debatable how much it really did. I tried it. Didn't. So 19:10 Speaker 4: they're never gonna hurt you. Yeah. I think it's worth a try. If you got some serious problems, right? If you've been really, really trying, trying, trying to 19:17 Speaker 4: get your wife pregnant and you've done HCG 19:21 Speaker 4: and clomiphene, 19:23 Speaker 4: HMG, 19:24 Speaker 4: and none of that is working and you're really desperate, like, cool. You can add that in, but all those 19:29 Speaker 4: aforementioned 19:31 Speaker 4: things that I just said 19:33 Speaker 4: will be better 19:35 Speaker 4: for 19:35 Speaker 4: for testes and-1TX, 19:38 Speaker 4: right? It's like, it's for collagen. I was cartilage. I still would much prefer BPC-1TB, 19:45 Speaker 4: hell even GHK-3Cu, 19:47 Speaker 4: etcetera. And, and Tesa Ipah, or just any type of HGH 19:51 Speaker 4: to help. Yeah. To help you recover. Greed. 19:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. I knew a little bit about, mean, I tried the CarMax when we had it. 19:59 Speaker 3: I don't know. 20:00 Speaker 3: So, I mean, it's okay. I mean, like Will said, I mean, I've said it a 100 times. I'm a huge fan of the Wolverine, which for anybody that doesn't know is the BPC-157 20:09 Speaker 3: and the TB-five hundred blend. 20:11 Speaker 3: I think for any type of injury, you're good. You're golden. I think that's just man. I think that's the holy grail when it comes to that. I am continued 20:19 Speaker 3: to be blown away by that. The testogen, I mean, what, why? Like, what is it like, like meaning, like, what are you taking it for? You got your Kisspeptin, you got your HCG. 20:29 Speaker 3: So they're similar in regards to that. I mean, I'm assuming you're trying to increase your testosterone or 20:34 Speaker 3: sperm count. It's such a vague question. So how do we answer that to the degree? Like, why would you take it? Because there's other stuff in my opinion that would do better. 20:44 Speaker 3: Kind of contingent upon what you're trying to do. Like it's obviously to increase testosterone. 20:48 Speaker 3: And I are going to say 10 times out of 10, get on testosterone for the love of God. If it's, you know, to stay fertile and things like that, HCG, you know, compared to Kisspeptin and all 21:00 Speaker 3: 3, HCG is the winner in regards to that. So again, it's vague, hard to answer that, but there's better products in my opinion. Yeah, I think this is better stuff. Yeah. Okay, I'm up. 21:11 Speaker 3: I stumbled upon the podcast and have binge listening to the episodes by episode, and I'm so glad that you are doing this Q and A because I actually have a question. 21:20 Speaker 3: That's funny. I'm 21:22 Speaker 3: going for a scar revision 21:24 Speaker 3: surgery after having a brachialplasty 21:28 Speaker 0: surgery resulting in my chronic migraine. 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more, can make me feel like a spectator in my own life. Botox, onabotulinum 21:38 Speaker 1: toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month. It's the number 1 prescribed branded chronic migraine preventive treatment. 21:47 Speaker 2: Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert Eaton and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor, visit botoxchronicmigraine.com, 22:27 Speaker 0: or call one-eight hundred-44Botox 22:29 Speaker 3: to learn more. The scars looking less than ideal 22:32 Speaker 3: and in need of revision. 22:34 Speaker 3: Time around, I don't want to have the same thing happen. 22:37 Speaker 3: And I want to use peptides before the surgery and after the surgery to ensure the 22:42 Speaker 3: wound 22:43 Speaker 3: closures are aesthetical 22:46 Speaker 3: pleasing. 22:48 Speaker 3: What peptides should I begin prior to the surgery and how long before the surgery should I be taking them? What peptides should I continue to use after the surgery in order to make sure this time around the scars along are 23:01 Speaker 3: along my arms heal properly 23:04 Speaker 3: and look the best. You want to take that? Yes, but I will also add. Yeah, I'll go quick. So you got a, so 23:11 Speaker 3: obviously the Wolverine is what you're going to want to take when it comes to the scars. GHK-3C is going to be your best in regards to that. 23:19 Speaker 3: After the surgery, 23:21 Speaker 3: face serum, 23:22 Speaker 3: you know, you can take the GHK-3CU 23:24 Speaker 3: snap 8 face serum and you're going to rub that right on the scar. That's going be great. You want to take actual H or GHKCU 23:31 Speaker 3: as well. You can take the glow. 23:34 Speaker 3: For some reason, I like them separate. That's just probably a matter of preference for me. Some of it would be depending on your pocketbook. 23:42 Speaker 3: I like the Wolverine by the Wolverine by itself because you can just take such shitloads of Wolverine, you know, with copper, you can overdo it on copper. So what I would say is kind of keep them separate if your pocket book allows that. So 23:56 Speaker 3: I would say 3 weeks up to the surgery, if you can afford it. 24:00 Speaker 3: And then however long after that, it's going to take you to heal 24:05 Speaker 3: when it comes to dosage, 24:08 Speaker 3: what can you afford? You know, the more that you can take, obviously you're going to expedite the healing of it. I think most people know about my surgery and how fast I healed and I took huge, huge, huge quantities 24:20 Speaker 3: because a good friend of ours who will be on the show this week 24:23 Speaker 3: had referred that to me. And I was even blown away by it because I don't have a problem taking high doses of most peptides. And I was even like, wow. 24:31 Speaker 3: But after I did and did what he said, I was truly blown away by how fast I healed. I was in the gym in 2 weeks and people were like, Dude, should you be lifting that much? And I'm like, I feel good. So 24:42 Speaker 3: that's my answer. 24:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my answer. For sure. I 2nd that. I would say, I don't know, 4 weeks before, you said, but 3 weeks, maybe 24:52 Speaker 4: whatever. So yeah, you want kind of anything that's going help with like collagen remodeling 24:57 Speaker 4: angiogenesis, 24:58 Speaker 4: like I just mentioned, formation of new blood vessels, blood is life, right? More blood that goes to tissues, the better it heals, the better it looks, the better it feels, the better it functions, reduced 25:08 Speaker 4: inflammation 25:10 Speaker 4: and general just 25:12 Speaker 4: healing of everything. 25:13 Speaker 4: So yeah, you nailed like BPC. So I would go 4, I'd do 4 weeks ahead of time, BPC and TB. 25:19 Speaker 4: The- Would you separate as well? 25:21 Speaker 3: No. Don't do the glove. No. Okay. So, sorry. 25:25 Speaker 4: I would not separate the BPC, TB. Yeah. Yeah. I would keep those together. I got no problem with that. Presurgery, 25:31 Speaker 4: so the only reason that I would not take the glow is because 25:35 Speaker 4: GHKCU is the 1 that you can't really don't wanna take too much of. Okay? So if you'd have to have the if they're on the same bottle and you wanna take high doses of BPC and TB, sorry, you got to take the high doses of the GHK-3Cu, 25:48 Speaker 4: right? Because it's all in a proportion. 25:51 Speaker 4: So that's what's not if you separate them, cool, you can take lower GHK-3C as much 25:57 Speaker 4: Wolverine, BPC-2B as you want. As you should. As you should. Right. So, but I would like scar wherever the scar happens is going to be. Right? 26:05 Speaker 4: I would put, you're kind of just trying to go make a triangle of injections daily around 26:10 Speaker 4: where the issue is, 26:12 Speaker 4: the healing you want to take place. We're just saturating the area with. 26:16 Speaker 4: BPC is signaling is helping absorb collagen and signaling, telling it where to go, reducing inflammation. The TB-five hundred is bringing a whole bunch of stem cells in there, just telling to build, build, build, build, build. So 26:29 Speaker 4: saturated area beforehand and then 6 to 8 weeks post surgery, I definitely would, 26:34 Speaker 4: here I would go with BPC TB also. 26:37 Speaker 4: Use pattern, but also GHK- 26:39 Speaker 4: That's going to help body kinda create more of its natural collagen 26:44 Speaker 4: in your skin. Also, 26:47 Speaker 4: Tessa Ipi, 26:48 Speaker 4: that is 26:49 Speaker 4: it's a HGH secretagogue. 26:51 Speaker 4: And as the name says, like human growth hormone. So it is going to help your skin repair. Hell, when I'm taking that dude, I mean, I could 26:59 Speaker 4: grow a beard in a week if I want to. It just makes things grow 27:02 Speaker 4: fast. Okay, so including your skin, that's gonna help with everything. And I'd say 6 to 8 weeks post. 27:10 Speaker 4: And yeah, a 100%. Once the wound is closed, 27:13 Speaker 4: then the GHKC 27:15 Speaker 4: use and SNAP-eight serum. 27:17 Speaker 4: Put it on there daily for sure. Yeah. It worked. And watch that watch that wound and not scar up. 27:23 Speaker 4: So there you go. Dosage ranges, I'd say, you know, hey, 27:27 Speaker 4: about 500 27:28 Speaker 4: micrograms 27:30 Speaker 4: daily of BPC and TB is about as low as you want to go. I'd say up to 3 mg of each. Okay. 27:38 Speaker 4: 0.5 a milligram to 3 mg is the range. Don't go less than that. GHK CU, I'd say maybe 2.5 mg to 5 mg, 3 days a week. 27:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, 27:49 Speaker 3: there you go. You You can throw on top of that as you were talking, I was thinking you can throw in some Thymosin Alpha-one because that's going to be good for immunity and you're in surgery 27:58 Speaker 3: and a lot of people get sick in surgery, blah, blah, blah. 28:00 Speaker 3: So do that, try that maybe. And it brings down inflammation. It's the best for bringing down inflammation. So, throw in some TA-one if you can afford that too. That'd be good. Yeah. Vitamin C is always good for scars. 28:12 Speaker 4: Do that. Well, you know, zinc. 28:15 Speaker 4: Who's that? Me? You are no, I am. But I wanna make sure that I'm reading the right the full questions. Guys. Is the way I printed them out. Is this I'm a 41 year old female? No. It's, hey, guys. Alright. 4th down on the Let me see yours. I might have to read this from your sheet. Yeah. 2 the same. Hey, guys. Love the podcast. Thank you for what I'm doing, for what you do. I'm a 41 year old female here in SoCal. For some reason, mine, like, cut off the 1st sentence. 28:40 Speaker 4: 41 year old female here in SoCal. I 28:44 Speaker 4: have that now. I just had labs done and it looks like I'm low in testosterone. 28:48 Speaker 4: I'm at a 12. 28:50 Speaker 4: This is a woman. Symptoms are low libido, tired, fatigue. Do you know anything 28:56 Speaker 4: about women 28:58 Speaker 4: tea and what peptides might increase tea? 29:03 Speaker 3: That's where mine ends. Oh really? Yeah. I also started MOTS-3C this past week that I'm hoping will help with energy, etcetera. I have also exercised and taken care of my body. My goal is to feel better, have energy, sex drive, and lose the last bit of my belly fat. Any recommendations 29:21 Speaker 3: would be great. 29:23 Speaker 3: I think that's awesome because, 29:26 Speaker 3: well, you probably 29:27 Speaker 3: had asked this or I would assume you either didn't see 29:32 Speaker 3: the episode with a nurse Lee that we just had on. We did that for you ladies because we, you know, we have 29:38 Speaker 3: obviously a lot of ladies that listen and 29:41 Speaker 3: they are just like men. They go through the same stuff. And 29:45 Speaker 3: I, you know, I can probably speak for Will. We love sitting down and talking to people about this stuff. We learn so much. We are both so intrigued by this stuff. We learn every time and 29:55 Speaker 3: we love it. We could talk about it for hours. 29:58 Speaker 3: But mainly we bring those people on because they're educated, they're good at what they do. We know them personally. So, you know, when it comes to doctors and certain things, you know, like I'll be blunt with you. I don't, I'm not the, I don't have the most respect for a lot of them in certain areas, hormone doctors and stuff in hormone areas, but these ones that we bring on and we do because we know them and we know that they're good at what they do. So if you have not heard that episode, 30:21 Speaker 3: it was the last 1 jump on there. And she dug into that type of stuff and she went in deep on that stuff and you're in SoCal. 30:29 Speaker 3: You, we would be happy to give you her information. 30:33 Speaker 3: She has 2 wellness centers 30:36 Speaker 3: in Orange County. Well, one's in Chino Hills, one's in Orange County, and she would be happy 30:42 Speaker 4: to help you out with that. Yeah, for sure. And she does that. She does like testosterone. 30:48 Speaker 3: Know her well, but she has her heart is just like, she truly tries to help everybody that we bring on this show. We know them personally. We know that they're legitly 30:57 Speaker 3: trying to, 31:00 Speaker 3: like, they know what they're talking about. They, they believe, you know what I mean? Like they're, they're, they're vetted is the best way to say that we know them well. That's why we bring them on and we're going to continue to do that because 31:10 Speaker 3: we love it. We know it's important for you guys and shoot, man, we learn more every single time we sit with them. I love it. So there you go. 31:18 Speaker 4: I would agree. I don't know if so. Would 2nd that, 31:21 Speaker 4: as far as some peptide MOTS-1C, awesome. I would really always try to pair that with SS-31NAD 31:29 Speaker 4: plus 31:31 Speaker 4: So these are really good kind of general 31:34 Speaker 4: health 31:35 Speaker 4: and for female hormone balancing 31:37 Speaker 4: type peptides that will attack 31:40 Speaker 4: some of the problems that some of those symptoms, I suppose that you're feeling with low testosterone until you can actually go get some real testosterone. It fixed. 31:48 Speaker 4: Easy fix. Women need super duper duper low doses of testosterone. Okay. 31:53 Speaker 4: You know, you don't want virilization, 31:54 Speaker 4: which is a woman turning into a man. That is a real problem. You 31:58 Speaker 4: know how to it. 32:01 Speaker 4: You know, it's your fault if you have, if you get those problems because you overdid it, everybody. 32:07 Speaker 4: But MOTS-1s): Awesome. Tesamorelin right there. It's helping to burn visceral fat, help burn the belly fat 32:14 Speaker 4: NAD plus MOTS-31. 32:18 Speaker 4: I 32:18 Speaker 4: would look at all those. Kisspeptin 32:20 Speaker 4: might. 32:22 Speaker 4: I 32:23 Speaker 4: I think Kisspeptin, I would be very interested to see a female have 32:29 Speaker 4: have your a, blood test run, 32:31 Speaker 4: you know, 8 weeks of Kisspeptin and then see the blood test again, see what it has done to testosterone. 32:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife is, we're in the middle of, or middle, we're at the tail end of getting my son off breastfeeding. 32:45 Speaker 3: So, 32:45 Speaker 3: you know, she's about to go in and get her hormones tested and get all that stuff. And we're thinking about putting her on Kisspeptin, but she's going to get tested and like look at her levels and all that 1st. 32:55 Speaker 3: We'll see, we might be putting her on that so that Kisspeptin might work. 32:59 Speaker 3: But once again, you are 41, you're at that age. 33:03 Speaker 3: Testosterone will change your life. 33:05 Speaker 4: Sure. We're positive. It really will change your life. 33:08 Speaker 3: Just give somebody like 33:10 Speaker 3: nurse Lee that knows what they're doing. I'm telling you, I've known her for so long. She travels the freaking world and studies this stuff. That's why I love her. So she's really good at that. So hit us up in numerous areas or just look on our social media. She's on there and I put her on there every time we post. So we're going You're 33:29 Speaker 4: up, but you read 0.5 of my question last time. 33:32 Speaker 4: You to read 0.5 of mine? No, 33:35 Speaker 4: I'll read the whole 33:36 Speaker 4: thing. All right. 33:38 Speaker 4: So, 33:39 Speaker 4: yay. All right. Hey, guys. I absolutely love your podcast and have learned so much from you. Thank you for so generously sharing your knowledge and just being such great guys. My 24 year old daughter started on Tirzepatide about 3 months ago. She's 5 foot 4, started at 150. 33:55 Speaker 4: She is now down 20 pounds. 33:57 Speaker 4: Damn. 3 months ago, down 20 pounds and has lost 12% body fat. Right? She eats pretty clean. It eats a pretty clean diet. I know it's hard to quantify and 34:08 Speaker 4: sprint trains 34:09 Speaker 4: several days a week. Suggested she start on tirzepatide because she had a lot of weight to lose. 34:14 Speaker 4: She'd like to lose 5 to 10 more pounds, but is now more concerned with gaining muscle. My thinking is to switch her to Retta to help her with the fat burn and appetite regulation. 34:23 Speaker 4: I've been on Retta for a few months and had amazing results. So 34:27 Speaker 4: what be good for her to add, 34:30 Speaker 4: to add, to build muscle? Also side note, she has celiac and also has had 34:35 Speaker 4: SIBO. 34:37 Speaker 4: Anything gut related that might help her? 34:39 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your help. 34:43 Speaker 4: Cool. Mom, I think you're right on- Mom's been listening. Yeah, absolutely. 34:47 Speaker 4: Mom's been listening. So- Yeah, mom. Hell, you're right on. You're right on 34:51 Speaker 4: there. Retta absolutely will help her. The problem with tirzepatide 34:54 Speaker 4: and semaglutide is people just don't eat. Okay? They don't really want to eat anything. And so they 34:59 Speaker 4: don't so when they're losing a lot of 35:02 Speaker 4: mass in general, they're losing indiscriminately 35:04 Speaker 4: fat and muscle. Yeah. Retta allows you to actually have an appetite, so you can eat some protein and therefore keep your keep muscle, 35:13 Speaker 4: if not added. Now, 35:15 Speaker 4: unless you are an enhanced male, it's 35:18 Speaker 4: going to be pretty hard for person to 35:21 Speaker 4: lose, 35:21 Speaker 4: for a woman to lose 5 to 10 more pounds of fat while gaining 35:27 Speaker 4: lean muscle. That's I can, I can safely say that that might be impossible, 35:34 Speaker 4: again, unless you're an enhanced 35:36 Speaker 4: male, 35:37 Speaker 4: but you can absolutely 35:39 Speaker 4: lose those 5 to 10 pounds and not lose any more muscle? Right? Keep all that. And then maybe once you're down, once you're down there because to lose weight, you need to be in a calorie deficit. 35:49 Speaker 4: And to gain muscle, you need to be the opposite. 35:54 Speaker 4: So 35:55 Speaker 4: maybe lose all the weight, take it right up, but lose the 5 to 10 pounds 35:59 Speaker 4: of fat. And then we work on getting that muscle back up. 36:04 Speaker 4: Okay. Or vice versa, whatever you want to do. 36:07 Speaker 4: And some other things to gain for, 36:10 Speaker 4: I don't know, helping women muscle Tessa Ipamorelin. 36:14 Speaker 4: Okay. Tessa is going to help actually burn a little stomach fat. 36:18 Speaker 4: Goes a long way women. But it also goes a long way for women and can really help. Well, absolutely ensure you don't lose any muscle 36:26 Speaker 4: if not build. 36:28 Speaker 4: So I would, I'd go to Reta and then maybe Tesa Ipamorelin if you need, 36:32 Speaker 4: or maybe just 36:33 Speaker 4: Tessa. 36:35 Speaker 4: Or AOD. Or AOD. But that's for just extra burn of fat. Yeah. 36:41 Speaker 3: Burn that fat off. That was great. Yeah, you've been listening, mom. I love it. 36:46 Speaker 3: The tirzepatide 36:47 Speaker 3: is 36:48 Speaker 3: dying 36:49 Speaker 3: on the side of the road. 36:51 Speaker 3: Yes, it is. It compound is, we visual 36:54 Speaker 3: proof of like tirzepatide is 36:58 Speaker 3: gasping for breath. It is a compound that not that many people are taking that much anymore. So I'm not sure if you're getting it from a doctor or what, but 37:05 Speaker 3: yeah, Retatrutide 37:07 Speaker 3: is, there's a reason why it's the king dog because it freaking just is the king dog for a reason. 37:13 Speaker 3: So yeah, to answer your question, 37:16 Speaker 3: Will already killed it on your, on that answer. Yes. Get her on Retrutide. It is a far, far, far superior 37:22 Speaker 3: product. She will be happy. 37:24 Speaker 3: Tesa and 37:26 Speaker 3: AOD, 37:27 Speaker 3: those 3 for a few months, man, it'll burn that right. Mob her. She's young. She'll kill it. Yep. And we 37:34 Speaker 4: should mention 37:35 Speaker 4: sleep. 37:37 Speaker 4: Weight training that she said she's already doing, right? Eating protein. So she's gonna, it's gonna be, you know, you've already read it. Yeah, you have an appetite, but you should feel full faster. Okay. So that's the point. But make sure that food that you are eating is 37:50 Speaker 4: protein. 37:51 Speaker 4: That's what the muscles are made out of. If you don't eat protein, then it protects muscle. 37:57 Speaker 4: So all those other things, you know, eating 37:59 Speaker 4: healthy sleep is huge to gain any muscle and to burn fat. Hell, so It's always fun to say people, I mean healthy. What does that mean? What does that mean? Subject. You know, the 1 thing that we have learned, right, in this, all these GLPs coming out is 38:14 Speaker 4: holy shit, the importance of eating versus exercise. So like previously, 38:19 Speaker 4: I'd say, you know, it's probably like, what's more effective? If you had to choose 1, right, that's maybe it's a 50 50 toss-up. Like we now have learned because of trial and error, right, I've seen 38:29 Speaker 4: hundreds of people 38:30 Speaker 4: really be kick ass at working out, but their diet isn't very good. And they make some changes, right? But then we've seen way more people 38:39 Speaker 4: be terrible at working out. In fact, do nothing and do nothing but change their diet and they see huge results. Huge. And also, it is very, it's illuminated what people think of like, Oh, I eat great. Yeah. 38:51 Speaker 4: No. No, you don't. Until then you got on the GLP and now you started losing weight because that forced you to eat 38:58 Speaker 3: great. 38:59 Speaker 3: And so you didn't know most people don't know what eating great is. Well, so we've always had just, this has been our life for so long. We loved it. And from 39:07 Speaker 3: sports to, you learn about nutrition and stuff through sports just because you're kind of forced to a degree. 39:13 Speaker 3: Some people take it further, but anyways, when like with fitness training and helping people get in shape and whatnot, it's 39:19 Speaker 3: so funny that people just think you just need a workout. I'm going to work out and they go to the gym and they work hard. They put like 2 weeks, like, let's take the 1st of the year and everybody's, I'm going to work my ass off. They do. They're busting their ass. Their diet sucks and they don't see any benefits. There's been no drop in weight and then they give up. They do it wrong. You're doing it wrong. You got to start in the kitchen, man. 39:43 Speaker 3: Fasting food, 39:44 Speaker 4: exercise, hormones, all that stuff, man. And it takes a little bit of time. Like it's not as, 39:51 Speaker 3: Exactly. It took you this long, but 39:53 Speaker 4: to build those habits that got you that way. Right? It takes, it's hard to, it's hard to establish new habits and be disciplined and don't think, I definitely know that the losing weight or gaining muscle is like a domino effect. So people, Hey, I'm going to do 1 thing and they go, hell, 2 weeks a month, 40:09 Speaker 4: maybe not. And like, damn, I'm doing everything right. It's like, don't quit before the miracle happens. Right? And like literally 1 day 40:16 Speaker 4: your body goes, Oh, I get it. This is what we're trying to do. And then they falling over and then they won't. And then I have people like who want to gain muscle, 40:24 Speaker 4: finally start gaining muscle. They're like, well, shit, now I just keep getting too big or the same way. Like I can't stop this roller coaster I'm on. 40:33 Speaker 4: You know, I guess is a good problem to have, but like proof's in the pudding. So-1s, 40:38 Speaker 3: the cool thing about that, and it took me a while to come around to it for, you know, before I really started studying them, because I've talked about neuroscience and Will was always saying, Hey, look into these, look into these. I'm like, nah, dude. But anyways, 40:51 Speaker 3: the cool thing that I have found even with, doing fitness with people and whatnot, 40:57 Speaker 3: if somebody is just, I grew up in the gym, I started lifting 0.125 grade and never stopped. I fell in love from the 1st bench press and it just never stopped. 41:06 Speaker 3: But that's not everybody. And like, there's people that have never even been in a gym. Like I structured my fitness program around that because there's guy knew the guys didn't want to go into the gym. You know what I mean? And, which is fine. 41:17 Speaker 3: But the GLP-1s, 41:19 Speaker 3: 1 of the things that rat about them is 41:22 Speaker 3: they work so quickly that you do see benefits. And when you see benefits, 41:28 Speaker 3: it's your mind. It's like a trigger in your mind where it lights a fire in your soul or whatever. And like, I want more. That even if you don't work out 41:36 Speaker 3: and you lose a little bit of weight, it triggers something in your mind to eat better, workout more, and it's a snowball effect. And I think that's been the beauty about the GLP-1s. 41:46 Speaker 3: Now there are going be some people that sit on the couch and like, that's just silly because you're not trying to improve your life. Most people, I think, 41:52 Speaker 3: get a taste of what it feels like to see improvement 41:56 Speaker 3: and 41:57 Speaker 3: they dive head 1st. We've seen it most. 42:00 Speaker 4: Sure. You know what I mean? Like that a lot. That is the best. True. And that's what I guess the other thing was cool. It's not, it doesn't happen overnight, but 42:09 Speaker 4: eggs are like getting in shape is 1 of the like fastest, 42:16 Speaker 4: what do I want to like, 42:18 Speaker 4: anyway, it's like drugs and alcohol, those drugs, alcohol, sex, driving fast, those are immediate gratification. That's the word I was looking for. Working out is a pretty close 2nd. Right? 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You and you. 43:53 Speaker 4: Really it just 3 months of hard work, You can change your life, change your life 90 days. You see a little bit and then you're like, Oh, there it is. Now it's working. Then you really 1 get into You start hanging out with people to go to the gym. You start hanging out with people that want to improve themselves. It's the law of attraction. It's my 44:08 Speaker 3: favorite saying with some total of 5 people we hang out with the most. Your If friends are sitting on the couch and Doritos, change your friends. Seriously, like find people that are chasing growth, man. It's contagious. 44:17 Speaker 3: Right? 44:18 Speaker 3: Let's see here. Tried 44:20 Speaker 3: the glow 70 megs for 2 weeks and had injected site reactions each time, red welts, itchy, hot, etcetera. 44:28 Speaker 3: So I gave it a break for a week, gave it myself another injection after and to see if the reaction improved, but it did not. I'm assuming this was from the cup or yes, it is. My question is, was it suitable alternative? 44:41 Speaker 3: What is a suitable alternative that provides similar benefits? 44:45 Speaker 3: My current stack is NAD plus and DSIP. My plan is to incorporate 44:50 Speaker 3: Batalon once I've ran DSIP for 3 weeks. The goal is to get better sleep and have more energy and mental clarity. Would love to incorporate something 45:00 Speaker 3: to skin, hair, and nails, but without this, sight reaction. Good question. 45:06 Speaker 3: Let me take that. Yeah, go ahead. I 45:11 Speaker 3: mean, some of it's just part of the game. You know, Will has his big brain has created 45:18 Speaker 3: water that you can use that will help with that. Would it help with the itchy welts? I think so. 45:25 Speaker 3: I think so. I mean, 45:27 Speaker 3: some of that's part of the game. Think after time you're going to, it's going to kind of subside a bit anyway. I know you deal with NAD problems quite a bit. The ones that I ran into that are an issue, if I just keep doing it, they kind of subside in regards to the wealthy type stuff. I mean, I get GHK- 45:43 Speaker 3: it's not an every night thing when I would take it. 45:46 Speaker 3: It would just be like every few nights and I would get like a big wealth. I'd be walking up my stairs. I'm like, Oh man, that's a desert. But 45:54 Speaker 3: I think it's worth 45:56 Speaker 3: that and I think it will run its course 46:01 Speaker 3: in regards to that. That NAD is kind of in the same realm. 46:07 Speaker 3: It is the copper. Yes. 46:13 Speaker 3: Okay. Sleep. Let me talk about that a little bit. Cause I've been dealing with that and I've been doing a lot of research on it because man, it's my sleep has been so off for months and it's been really, really sucking the life out of me. So I've been digging into it and doing a lot of research on my end on trying to figure it out. So here's some of the things that I've been doing, that have been working for me and they might be a little woo woo to some, but I don't care. I'm open minded and try things. So, 46:40 Speaker 3: I've read that just right when the sun comes up, take your shoes off and go walk in the grass, 46:45 Speaker 3: kind of sit by a tree and just you're so connected to the universe and 46:48 Speaker 3: it resets your whole body and your mind. 46:53 Speaker 3: And I did it, whether it placebo or not. I have been sleeping great. That's been working. I've cut down to the basics. I 47:01 Speaker 3: am cutting off my phone at night. I put my phone in my office. 47:06 Speaker 3: I'm not looking at my phone. I'm extremely disciplined 47:09 Speaker 3: in the morning. I don't look at my phone for an hour and I haven't for a long time, but at night I look 47:15 Speaker 3: at that sucker until the 2nd I put it on my thing. So I've now given myself about an hour to not do that. And so the last week I have slept freaking amazing. I feel 47:26 Speaker 3: so much better. I feel so much like myself. I finally feel like just me again. I was struggling for months. 47:34 Speaker 3: I would say try it. It works for me. I don't care if it's woo woo or placebo or not. It works. 47:40 Speaker 3: So try that. Yeah. 47:43 Speaker 3: What'd got? Agreed 47:45 Speaker 4: on that 1, like our brain needs wind down time. I mean, I read every night and 47:50 Speaker 4: that just 47:51 Speaker 4: calms, just drops the calming 47:54 Speaker 4: on me. DSIP, cool. That's what it's gonna do, right? It's not gonna make you drool on yourself and pass out, right? It is going to 48:01 Speaker 4: all those neurotransmitter, 48:02 Speaker 4: all the calming neurotransmitters, it's just gonna tell them all to chill and get you in the right mood for sleep. So you're doing the right thing there, but yeah, there's some lifestyle changes. My problem 48:11 Speaker 4: is knowing when to quit. Like I 48:14 Speaker 4: try to like, all right, get home from work. I gotta get all these things in, right? And 48:18 Speaker 4: up to the point of like, okay, I can do 3 more things in bed while I'm on my laptop. Right? And then 48:24 Speaker 4: usually what happens is I don't get them done and I spend an hour just like, 48:29 Speaker 4: I knew them like, damn it. If I would've just said, not being productive. Yeah, right. If I would've just said 48:34 Speaker 4: productivity 48:35 Speaker 4: is rest. 48:36 Speaker 4: Right? Rest is productivity. 48:38 Speaker 4: I'll leave it at that. 48:40 Speaker 3: Sleep is freaking huge would get way more done overall. 48:44 Speaker 4: So, 48:46 Speaker 4: yeah, lifestyle changes like that, But I mean, far as peptides go, was going to say NAD, 48:52 Speaker 4: Epitalon for sure. 48:55 Speaker 3: So she should stop on the GHK? 48:57 Speaker 4: Oh, okay. Yes, yes, it's the copper. Like I would try mixing it with no sting water. 49:02 Speaker 4: Hit us up and tell you what that is. Okay? If that doesn't happen, some people get a little histamine reaction to 2 things, Now you got BPC, TB, and 49:11 Speaker 4: GHK-3CU, 49:12 Speaker 4: maybe some of that little mix of them is igniting a histamine reaction. Who knows? My chances are, I think it is just the copper uncomfortableness. 49:20 Speaker 4: And frankly, if you're getting just a little bit of redness and itching, that's better than most. 49:25 Speaker 4: Most people say, I, it hurts so bad that I can't even function. 49:30 Speaker 4: So tough it out, I guess. 0 Being dramatic here. If 49:35 Speaker 4: it's, if it's an allergic reaction, like try, 49:39 Speaker 4: see if you do it, take it like a Benadryl right beforehand and do that injection and see if that reaction happens. Then you- Probably Clo. 49:47 Speaker 3: Who has KPV, which helps with histamine. So 49:50 Speaker 3: maybe try Clo. That's KPV. 49:53 Speaker 4: That helps with that stuff. But also BPC for skin, shoot, 49:58 Speaker 4: Talking about angiogenesis, creating new blood vessels. Right? If it's creating new blood vessels in the skin level, your skin's gonna be healthier. 50:06 Speaker 4: So I would do all that. Like, I even know if you wanna hit us up, I have 50:11 Speaker 4: a good supplement for, like, hair, skin, and nails, and I'm gonna read you these ingredients because I can't pronounce a lot of them. No. Just 50:19 Speaker 4: niacinamide, 50:20 Speaker 4: thiamine HCL, pantothenic acid, choline, inositol. 50:24 Speaker 4: Alright? 50:25 Speaker 4: That is 50:26 Speaker 4: a loaded hair, skin and nails, 50:29 Speaker 4: intramuscular injection 50:31 Speaker 4: that you could take. If you want to hit us up, I'll tell you where to get it. 50:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, but everything else you covered. This dude sitting here literally made up this no sting water. So he's a pretty bright guy and it really does work. We're not just saying that it works. The topical serum, shit, topical serum, like, right. Put the SNAP-8GHK 50:49 Speaker 4: CU serum just right on your face. I think that that's the glaring ones right at us. You up? I'm up. Let me steal your paper. Yep. 50:59 Speaker 4: 300. Okay. 51:03 Speaker 4: Am I here? The new peptides? Okay. New to peptides and loving it. Love it so much that I want to get my dad on them. Little background story because details are important. He's had multiple back and neck surgeries in the past to help him mitigate nerve pain and muscle weakness and improve his walking balance. The last back surgery he had at 8 hour intensive went south and crashed twice in the OR, jeez, 51:25 Speaker 4: and was on a ventilator for 5 to 6 days. After that, the doc realized the blood thinner heparin actually had an adverse reaction on his system and clotted blood rather than thinning it. Wow, sweet. 51:37 Speaker 4: All to say he's been through the rigor. Since then he's made progress in physical therapy and is now completely off of blood thinners. My thought is that BPC-157 51:47 Speaker 4: maybe a last ditch effort to 51:49 Speaker 4: relieve his nerve pain. I know JD has had multiple back surgeries as well, so I'd like to know, 1, would BPC and or TB be a good fit for him? Yes. 2, 51:59 Speaker 4: I read, 52:00 Speaker 4: it may not be suitable for people who have blood clotting thinning issues due to the creation of new vessels to transport blood to inflamed areas? Maybe. 52:09 Speaker 4: How 52:10 Speaker 4: risky would this peptide be to its health given his circumstances? 52:16 Speaker 4: Well, 52:17 Speaker 4: mean, 52:20 Speaker 4: that's, 52:21 Speaker 4: don't, to yeah, be honest, like I don't know the severity. I mean, I guess in theory, right? 52:27 Speaker 3: I would say if it was my dad, I would, I'll answer if it was my dad because I can't answer for your dad. That's, you know, and like, we're not doctors, obviously. 52:36 Speaker 3: I would feel comfortable giving my dad 52:39 Speaker 3: the Wolverine in that situation. 52:43 Speaker 3: You know, I would, 52:45 Speaker 3: I get where you're coming from and I see the logic in that, but I don't think that you would have a problem with it. I think it's going to be more positive 52:51 Speaker 3: than good. 52:53 Speaker 3: Everything's a risk to reward and you can only answer that yourself. So what you feel comfortable with, if it's gonna like, you're going to give it to him and it's gonna screw with your head and you're gonna be super worried, then don't. You know, if it's going to be, you're going to be worried that it's doing that or this. 53:07 Speaker 3: Again, this is just somewhat of a guess. I think that anybody could answer that. Don't think you need to worry about it as much. 53:15 Speaker 3: I think it's going to do really good for him. It's going to expedite the healing. It's going to do so much. It's my favorite compound 53:22 Speaker 3: by a mile. 53:24 Speaker 3: So that's my answer, man. I would feel comfortable giving it to my old man in that situation. 53:29 Speaker 4: Yeah. 53:30 Speaker 4: I would too. Also my dad is, 53:33 Speaker 4: I mean, 53:34 Speaker 4: my guess is he's getting older 53:37 Speaker 4: as with my dad. 53:39 Speaker 4: If he's just going to be miserable, 53:42 Speaker 4: what's the point anyway? So I would tell my dad to try it. 53:46 Speaker 4: So that's all I can tell you. Probably the proper answer is like, it's an actual answer to you, you know, ask your doctor about it. Okay? 53:54 Speaker 4: I don't know how helpful the doctor will be, but you can do that. 54:00 Speaker 4: But I mean, 54:01 Speaker 4: the whole point is he's on blood thinners, 54:03 Speaker 4: right? And he finally got off of them. That's great. 54:06 Speaker 4: But the worry then is the BPC is going to potentially let blood flow a little bit more freer and therefore act as, 54:15 Speaker 4: like, what a blood thinner might do. And I guess that is was the good thing. That wasn't the problem at the beginning. 54:22 Speaker 4: So, 54:24 Speaker 4: take that for what it's worth. 54:26 Speaker 4: Right? Clotting was the issue, not more 54:29 Speaker 4: blood flowing. 54:31 Speaker 3: Okay, Europe. Number 9. What's up? Great podcast. Super informative and not overly med technical. 54:37 Speaker 3: I'm 62102, 54:40 Speaker 3: body fat, 174 54:42 Speaker 3: pounds, currently running Reta at 54:45 Speaker 3: 5 mg every 3 days, AOD at 2 50 micrograms 54:49 Speaker 3: per day, 54:51 Speaker 3: and Tesa Ipah at 300 micrograms per day. Can I stack into this lineup MOTS-C 54:58 Speaker 3: and SLU-PP-three 55:00 Speaker 3: 32 or is it over the top trying to really lean out my middle? 55:04 Speaker 3: I think that's an easy 1, man. I mean, I don't what's too much? I don't know. I mean, always affordability is gonna play a role if you can afford it. I say you can do it. I mean, if you're 55:13 Speaker 3: you could also pull those out and up the Retta, that would probably be your quickest bet, to be honest with you. To be honest with you, you could literally just go up to MIG 3 times a week and I think that's going to get you to the end zone quicker and 55:26 Speaker 3: cheaper. 55:27 Speaker 3: So I would probably do that now that I'm reading this. I didn't think of that until I'm reading this, but to answer your direct question, can you do MOTS-1s): Is an overkill? 55:36 Speaker 3: I don't think so. Even close MOTS-1s): And slew are 2 of my favorites and they will definitely help 55:42 Speaker 3: put on top of all that. 55:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. I think, I think that I would hold those and I would increase Zaretta 55:49 Speaker 4: for fast results. And then you got those for when it's time to get off the others, right? And it's kind of cycle off those and now, now add these 2 in. There is potentially such thing as kind of like metabolic overload where you're just taking so many damn 56:03 Speaker 4: peptides that are boosting your metabolism and your 56:07 Speaker 4: metabolic pathways that it's going to cause some general fatigue 56:13 Speaker 4: and some metabolic burnout. 56:15 Speaker 4: But theoretically they should all help, 56:18 Speaker 4: but there is such thing as just too too much. Right? And I do think, yeah, less is more, a few, you know, 3, 3 peptides 56:27 Speaker 3: cycle 3, 3 to 4 months and then pull them and put 3 to 4 in their place. When I've talked about this, we've thrown it out a couple of times and there's numerous reasons why I've downshifted and 56:39 Speaker 3: taking very minimal peptides, at least for me. 56:42 Speaker 3: But we've talked about 56:43 Speaker 3: adding a peptide into our personal stack, 56:47 Speaker 3: even if we've done it, but it doesn't matter on, we just want to do 1 and we want to do it for, I don't know, what do we say? 60 days or probably 2 months, give 56:55 Speaker 3: or take. And then, but we wanted to get like a really hands on how we both feel at the same time and kind of just talk through it. So 1 of the reasons I've kind of unwinded 57:05 Speaker 3: some of that stuff is I want to get to the basics And if I do A peptide, 57:10 Speaker 3: not plural A peptide, yeah, what's it doing is, you know, I mean, I've taken so much for so long. 57:15 Speaker 3: I want to just start 57:17 Speaker 4: from scratch. Yeah. For sure. I think, 57:21 Speaker 4: yes, and I think good for you. I'm doing that also. 57:25 Speaker 4: Okay. 57:27 Speaker 4: What's up? Great podcast. Super informative and not only okay. You already read that? What's up, you pair of legends? I'm coming to you all the way from Bonney, Scotland. 57:36 Speaker 4: Been following your pod for some time now, and I preach about you guys to anyone who will listen. Got it. Thank you. That's so cool. So I have surgery coming up to repair 2 bulging herniated discs, 57:46 Speaker 4: l 4, l 5. 57:48 Speaker 4: The pain I'm in is incredible. No shit. 57:51 Speaker 4: My question relates to my current stack and some upcoming, 57:55 Speaker 4: surgery to repair. I've been using Reta for 5 months now, down about 44 pounds. Phew. About 58:01 Speaker 4: another 20 to go. I've just finished the cycle on MOTS-nine, Tesamorelin. I plan to start TRT post surgery to optimize health. 58:09 Speaker 4: Once surgery is done, I'm considering a blast of Cartilax and Wolverine 58:14 Speaker 4: to assist recovery. Is there anything else you would suggest? Also, 58:18 Speaker 4: once recovery is done, I wanna get back to the gym to rebuild the muscle I've lost though through not being able to train. Suggestions for them. My pocketbook isn't massive, but I'd certainly be able to add a few others if you think they'll help. Keep up the amazing enlightening work you do. Big love and God bless. 0 Huge man. That is cool. Scotland? 58:35 Speaker 4: Scotland. 58:36 Speaker 3: Wow. 58:38 Speaker 4: That's amazing. Well, okay. 58:41 Speaker 4: We both know that you've had a couple disc 58:44 Speaker 4: surgeries. Mine is my s 1 l 5, which is your, like, sacrum, iliac, and 58:51 Speaker 4: that disc and then my l 5 58:54 Speaker 4: and the disc L-four, L-five disc. So I had 2 and 58:58 Speaker 4: it was miserable. 58:59 Speaker 4: I was bedridden and- Mood. I mean, for months and had 2 epidurals, those didn't do a damn thing. 59:05 Speaker 4: My only regret is if I wish I would have had surgery sooner. Wicker. 59:10 Speaker 4: Oh my god. The past, I mean, I'm paranoid about it now too. And I know I can start to feel in my butt. You get scared. A little, like, wheeze, and and I go, oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, no. And I I and so what I do is I go to the gym and I do all the girl exercises. Right? I do like the weighted 59:26 Speaker 4: hip thrusts 59:27 Speaker 4: and literally the next day I'm good. So it's it is, 59:32 Speaker 4: it's because I need to like build my glutes up. Right? I gotta keep those glutes firing and strong. Right. And then there won't be this push pull imbalance. Or sometimes if I'll do, like, heavy abs, my abs are really sore, but I hadn't activated my glutes yesterday, 59:44 Speaker 4: then my abs are, like, pulling me forward and pulling things out of line. You know? So I try to keep front and back pretty even, 59:51 Speaker 4: core even. Alright. Anyway, 59:53 Speaker 4: digressing. 59:54 Speaker 4: But what 59:55 Speaker 4: I would say is hell so Cardiac post surgery, I think we talked about Cardiac right then and there is a very good use of Cardiac, right? 1:00:04 Speaker 4: This bio regular, it shouldn't be done all the time. In fact, it's pointless to be done more than 2, 3 times a year, but after a trauma and especially 1:00:13 Speaker 4: to a 1:00:14 Speaker 4: cartilage, 1:00:16 Speaker 4: organ, it's not an organ, but right cartilage system, Cartilage is great to tell the Wolverine stack where the hell to go and heal. 1:00:24 Speaker 4: Then high doses of Wolverine 1:00:26 Speaker 4: before and after just like we answered the last question, right? I'd say 4 weeks before and 4 to 6 weeks after. 1:00:34 Speaker 4: Then, hey, what do I do to put it? Well, you said you're going to start tests post 1:00:38 Speaker 4: surgery and you're asking, am I going do to put on muscle that you lost? There it is. It'll work really well. Eat, lift. Eat, lift and do your test. 1:00:46 Speaker 4: If there's anything else like HGH 1:00:49 Speaker 3: or HGH Accretic. Is it an age? 1:00:53 Speaker 4: He said, 1:00:54 Speaker 3: I don't think so. Okay. I'm just curious about age because HGH, 1:00:58 Speaker 3: it's always a little bit for me. 1:01:01 Speaker 3: If mid thirties, 1:01:02 Speaker 3: if it's 35 plus, I'll say HGH for sure. TRT for sure. Eat. You can always do MK-677, 1:01:08 Speaker 3: which is not a peptide, but that will help you gain some weight pretty quickly. You'll 1:01:13 Speaker 3: eat, you'll be hungry. I don't know, take it for like 60 days. It'll do its thing in 60 days, but we'll 1:01:19 Speaker 3: nail that man. High doses of the Wolverine. It'll help you expedite that, man. I'm sorry, man. That is pain that if you've never felt it, you can't understand it. It controls 1:01:30 Speaker 3: your life. It's hell. 1:01:32 Speaker 3: Hell. 1:01:33 Speaker 4: So 1:01:34 Speaker 3: let us know how you do, man. God bless you back, dude. And let us know how you do when you're done with the surgery. Keep us posted. Yeah. All right. Last question. 1:01:45 Speaker 3: Have you ever tried 1:01:46 Speaker 3: Lipo C Super Shred shots? 1:01:50 Speaker 3: It has L Carnitine, MIC, B-six, B-twelve. 1:01:54 Speaker 3: I love my L carnitine sub q, 2 40 mg a day. 1:01:59 Speaker 4: I never have. Yes. Well, 1:02:01 Speaker 4: it was a big thing in 1:02:04 Speaker 4: these different med clinics. The lipo 1:02:06 Speaker 4: they would call them like Skinny shots. Shots. Right? Different lipo Cs have different things, but I think that what they're describing is the traditional should be like L carnitine, then MYC and B-twelve. And the MYC is methionine, 1:02:18 Speaker 4: inositol, 1:02:19 Speaker 4: and choline. 1:02:20 Speaker 4: Those 3 1:02:22 Speaker 4: quickly 1:02:23 Speaker 4: are to help you burn, 1:02:26 Speaker 4: internal visceral fat and help clean out your liver. Okay? Get the fat off of your liver, 1:02:32 Speaker 4: which is your visceral fat. 1:02:34 Speaker 4: Those 1:02:35 Speaker 4: 3 internal works to get that gone. 1:02:39 Speaker 4: You're healthier than your liver functions better and everything functions better if your liver functions better. 1:02:45 Speaker 4: The L carnitine, like we already know, we talk about that 1 a lot. 1:02:48 Speaker 4: B-twelve energy, 1:02:50 Speaker 4: Yeah. Just good energy, brain, and body. L carnitine just helps body your body kinda go into the state of keto where where it prioritizes 1:02:57 Speaker 4: fat 1st, 1:02:59 Speaker 4: sugar 2nd. K? 1:03:02 Speaker 4: What do I think of them? I think they've gone kinda by the wayside 1:03:06 Speaker 4: in the advent of these GLB-1s. 1:03:08 Speaker 4: I don't think it can hurt, 1:03:10 Speaker 4: but I sure as hell wouldn't spend a lot of money on it at a med spa 1:03:14 Speaker 4: as something that's really going to make you lose a ton of weight. There's lot 1:03:18 Speaker 4: better things out there. I think it's almost like more of like a general health. Yeah. 1:03:23 Speaker 4: People love their L carnitine. I mean, it's a great, great, great, great compound, but man, I just can't do it. It's just, you're gonna inject too much. I try. So those are good. So that's good. I got, I don't really have anything bad say other than there's 1:03:36 Speaker 4: better 1:03:37 Speaker 4: stuff. It's a good it's a good add on if you're going for like a general health or cutting stack. It's usually done intramuscularly. 1:03:46 Speaker 4: And I just wouldn't spend a ton of money on it 1:03:49 Speaker 4: and not make it your primary, like, I'm gonna put all my eggs in this basket and I'm gonna lose weight with this thing. 1:03:54 Speaker 3: It's not. What do you inject that? I use intramuscular. I know, I know. I'm being like, is that daily? Because L carnitine is daily. So you do B12 is like once a week. So do you do that on a I don't, I think it's 3 times a week to twice a week. Got it. Yeah. 1:04:08 Speaker 4: Cool. Good stuff. You know, I mean, you say that, but it's got ill quarantine in it. Right? So every day. But my guess is that these clinics that are selling this are going for 2 to 3 times a week. Yeah. Probably burns. 1:04:21 Speaker 4: You know, it probably burns a bit. What 1:04:25 Speaker 3: was that stuff you gave me years ago, dude, where it was supposed to be B12 and like I took What the hell is that dude? Burning out of heat. It was like a multivitamin 1:04:33 Speaker 4: plus this. It was this. It was brutal, bro. It had about 20 different ingredients. It was brutal. That shit. I was like, that hurt. 1:04:40 Speaker 4: Pretty tough Sometimes it's the benzalkal, like you're mixing that many vitamins in there. You need to put a good amount of benzalkal to keep them together. Yeah. And to keep it sterile. Right? And that's what burns. 1:04:51 Speaker 3: 0 Cool, man. Good stuff. So we 1:04:54 Speaker 3: are having 1:04:55 Speaker 3: a Paul back to you on the podcast again, and we're going to be talking about what's going on in the peptide world. 1:05:02 Speaker 3: A lot Peptide science just got shut down. So Paul has an inside view of a lot of things. So we want to pull him back on and pick his brain on camera. 1:05:13 Speaker 3: Right? 1:05:14 Speaker 3: So I'm sure you guys want to know too and talk about a lot of stuff And remember, 1:05:18 Speaker 3: so when 1:05:19 Speaker 3: you hear this podcast, 1:05:21 Speaker 3: we will have the access and we will have our circle open. So jump on, we'll have numerous areas where you can find it. Jump on, post stuff down the front. We will be on there. Our team, all of us will be talking to you. It's going to be cool, man. You can post your wins. You can post pictures of your family. You can post pictures of your stacks. That matter where you can post whatever you want. We 1:05:41 Speaker 3: will respond. We're looking at them and we will try and we'll do the same. Yeah. We've already told our team to start getting on there and posting man, and let's just start getting this algorithm flowing and let's start getting the flow of it. We're excited. 1:05:51 Speaker 3: I think you will love it. I think that we've been trying really to give access to us on a direct level to where we can answer some questions. Sometimes we'll be on there and vice versa, some of the team, but we'll try to answer every 1 of your damn questions, baby. 1:06:04 Speaker 4: Little updates. So like some of you may or may not know, like I had a hair transplant, what, 6 weeks ago? This is what it looks like. It's good. Pretty damn good. Tell me he looks he should leave his hair like that. Yeah. 1:06:16 Speaker 4: So my hair MD, like if anybody has questions or wants to know, they did a damn, they did a great job. It's a labor intensive process. It was in San Diego 1:06:24 Speaker 4: and I would I would just I'd give you Todd's 1:06:27 Speaker 4: number who's 1:06:29 Speaker 4: part owner, not the actual surgeon, but he did the, like, the artwork. 1:06:33 Speaker 4: Like, they bring you in and actually do you know, it's not just like a straight across 1:06:37 Speaker 4: hairline. Yeah. They actually just jagged 1:06:40 Speaker 4: make it kind of jagged. They even go into this much detail where they will so as they pull the donor hairs, right, they most of our hairs, 1:06:48 Speaker 4: you have your little follicle 2 come with 2 hair follicles. I think that's what those are called. 1:06:53 Speaker 4: Most of them grow like this. Sometimes, you know, you'll have 10, I don't know, but sometime a lot of times you'll also have 1. So they do, 1:07:01 Speaker 4: they go in as much detail where they find the ones that it's only 1 hair and then replant 1:07:06 Speaker 4: only those ones on the hairline. So they can point that 1 hair the right direction and not have like 2 going, going which ways on the pairs that you see. Damn. That sounds complex, dude. Yeah. 1:07:19 Speaker 4: So there was that and the peptide sciences. Yeah. Here's my guess. I don't know what Paul is going say, but 1:07:25 Speaker 4: my guess is they were just doing so, so much volume 1:07:28 Speaker 4: so long that they were cutting into big pharma's 1:07:32 Speaker 4: profits. 1:07:33 Speaker 4: And, 1:07:34 Speaker 3: I'm excited about this. We haven't really had a lot of conversations with him yet. He's been busy, so we're excited to kind of break this down. And we always have good conversations with him. He knows a lot about a lot. We love him. He's a good friend of ours. So we're excited. Yep, we are. We record on Friday. It'll drop on Monday. So cool, man. Well, we will catch you on the next round. We love you guys later.