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0:09Speaker 0Welcome
0:10Speaker 0back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham. Across the way, my buddy William T Haws. What's up dude? What up man?
0:18Speaker 0Not much. How's life? What's going on? It's good. I got a little tattoo on Friday. 1 Was that Friday? No, Saturday. Yeah, it was Saturday. And I got, I think a Wednesday. Pretty good.
0:27Speaker 1Went, Jake goes very deep. Really? I mean, I got my whole kneecap done and I could fall asleep the whole time.
0:35Speaker 1We only went hour.
0:38Speaker 0It? Wonder why it didn't work for me. Did you wrap it with a yeah. Yes, you did. That's the key. That's the key. So all we did, I mean, you barely see, cause like we didn't do a whole bunch.
0:47Speaker 1True pain,
0:50Speaker 1the older I get, the more tattoos
0:52Speaker 1hurt. I don't care who you are. Like if you're saying that tattoos don't hurt,
0:57Speaker 1you're lying and trying to be tough. Yeah. Although, girl you know what? It's funny. Girls girls, women, women have a higher pain threshold tolerance than we do. Right? Because they have to have they have to have more bear babies, and that shit hurts.
1:11Speaker 1But it hurts. Okay. That just hurts. The older I get, it hurts. Yeah. These sick of it. More of a pain see, I get. So, yes, I've used some I used some numbing cream on there. And
1:21Speaker 1for the reference, everybody, like, we have some really good
1:24Speaker 1numbing cream that's like, it's really good. But I also have always done, like, put it on,
1:30Speaker 1sometimes not put saran wrap around it. Right.
1:33Speaker 1Then sometimes that was funny on the way there, I was chat GPTing,
1:37Speaker 1like, how much of an effect does is it to actually Saran wrap the thing? And they basically said, well, this is a clinical, like standard practice. I forget the name of it, but to wrap something in a non breathable deal and it makes about a 60% difference. That's a big deal. That's a huge deal. I've noticed that because I've done it numerous times. As you said, when you get older, I don't think that you're,
1:59Speaker 0I just think you get sick of pain. I'm covered in tattoos. I've had so many and like, I'm like, I don't remember like a few tattoos back and I've gotten numerous since I've said this, but I was like, I'm done. Like I'm done. I'm pained out of tattoos. And I did for quite a while,
2:14Speaker 1but anyways, like I'd have no problem saying that I use that tattoo cream. I don't care. No, don't care. Whatever. Don't care anymore. No. Now folks, everybody's listening. Like if it's your 1st tattoo, no, you cannot use numbing cream. Like we went a long, long time. We got to know it's not allowed. You have to earn it.
2:29Speaker 1All still cannot
2:31Speaker 1tattoo yourselves for the 1st time,
2:34Speaker 0sleeves down
2:35Speaker 1and knees down. Not a lot and neck up. Work people in their hands 1st. Yeah.
2:42Speaker 1Don't stand on your hands. Yeah, you can't do that. You have to earn your way. You have to earn your way there and earn your way getting a tattoo and dealing with a of pain. But I do remember after I got my chest done,
2:52Speaker 0I also said, Dude, I'm fucking done. And I don't, and I took a good break. Yeah, me too. Maybe like 6 months. Was like, Dude, that shit hurts. And then you get another 1 and you're like, Oh man, I did my left hand and I couldn't always get my right hand. Yeah,
3:07Speaker 0he did, he did good. He went really deep. He even told me, he's like, I had go really deep on your right. So I was expecting him to scar up and none.
3:14Speaker 0Apparently we have 6 scabbed over. If you've been doing HGH, you have. Yeah, dude, I would imagine, you know, it's funny you said that. So I was thinking about them, like, how did I not scab at all
3:24Speaker 0and peel off, which is very, I think it's 1 of my 1st, it's never done that. I would imagine this peptides. Yeah, probably. Only difference. Probably. Taking a lot. Probably.
3:33Speaker 1I mean, I even put the serum, the SNAP-eight and GHK- serum on mine today. Thinking like, maybe
3:40Speaker 1you're like in a really open wound that might not be the best idea, but I did He do
3:45Speaker 0said said, Put it on it. And I'm like, Are you sure it's not going to take out the ink? He said, No, I think it'd be good. So I was roaming in at night, so obviously that was it.
3:53Speaker 0Good. Hip heads are awesome. Well, today is a Q and A episode,
3:57Speaker 0which we all love so much. Good questions. Good questions.
4:01Speaker 0Yeah, we'll jump right in because this usually goes about an hour so. Yeah. We'll jump right in. You always do the starter off.
4:08Speaker 1Okay, number 1. So everywhere I look online, it says that for exogenous
4:15Speaker 1HGH to work, that means like the actual HGH
4:17Speaker 1hormone
4:18Speaker 1somatropin that you're injecting. Okay. Exogenous
4:21Speaker 1means exit outside
4:23Speaker 1of the body going in. Endogenous means internally made.
4:29Speaker 1Exogenous is to work at its most optimal. You have to take it fasted, but I've taken HGH fasted and with meals, and I've got amazing results both times. Only difference I felt is that when I take HGH fasted, it gives me more of a fat burning effect. When I take it with food, it gives me more of a performance recovery effect. Is this something I made up in my head or does HGH only really work when take it fasted?
4:51Speaker 1Love the podcast. Keep up the word good work guys.
4:54Speaker 1Okay. I think that holy shit. You are incredibly in tune to your body. I was kind of curious. He was like wondering if you felt that or read that.
5:03Speaker 1Says he read the opposite.
5:04Speaker 1That it shouldn't really work. It should blunt the effects, but this is what I feel. Right? I mean, that's really amazing. You are in tune with your body like crazy because that is basically, that is what's happening.
5:16Speaker 1The
5:17Speaker 1the insulin,
5:19Speaker 1basically if you eat, if you are not fasted and you are fed
5:22Speaker 1before taking the HGH, it is going to blunt the metabolic effect.
5:27Speaker 1It's gonna blunt the fat burning effect. Okay? But regardless
5:31Speaker 1if you have food in you or not, when you take the HGH, it's always gonna convert to the IGF-one.
5:36Speaker 1And IGF-one is what gives you that recovery effect.
5:40Speaker 1Okay. So
5:42Speaker 1you're feeling everything you just said is perfectly true.
5:45Speaker 1Although, so, so if fasted,
5:48Speaker 1you're getting both effects. Okay. Metabolic and IGF-one,
5:52Speaker 1which is the growth
5:53Speaker 1recovery,
5:54Speaker 0just as much. If not fasted, you're getting a blunted metabolic, therefore fat burning effect and the same good IGF-one output. Yeah, still getting the IGF-one. So I don't know why you would not want to get both like the fat burning. I mean, that's 1 of the reasons why I love HGH so much because of fat burning, many you're taking it for 6 months plus you are cruising.
6:13Speaker 0You really do notice the fat burning, but I've
6:17Speaker 0also read that bodybuilders will take it with, you know, food and when they eat with a lot of like
6:25Speaker 0glucose,
6:26Speaker 0you know, big meals, I
6:29Speaker 0don't think it's going to change the difference in regards to IGF-one. It's just going to change the fat burning. So if you're going to do it, why not burn fat? Yeah.
6:37Speaker 1Why not? Might as well. Even if you're big, it's still good to burn fat. So, but that was a great question. I've, it's never crossed our path. So I thought that was really good. And he's right. Like when I 1st started doing growth a few years back, like I didn't even think about, never had heard about this fast, fasted or not. Several
6:52Speaker 1years ago. And,
6:53Speaker 1and it sure still worked
6:55Speaker 1Now, I guess I'm not as in tune to hear going, Oh, it worked better. You're eating without not fasting. Yeah.
7:01Speaker 0Yeah. Still worked. Yeah. I
7:03Speaker 0mean, it's, I think that, you know, we've gone over, there's going to be some that aren't as important to do that, that you need to be fasted, like the healing peptides, blah, blah, blah.
7:13Speaker 0But you know, peptides are not cheap. So if you're going to do them, do them well, you know, and you want to get the best for your buck. So
7:20Speaker 0again, if you're going to get the same effects with IGF-one
7:24Speaker 0might as well do it faster dude and get the fat burning. Like again, who doesn't want to burn fat?
7:30Speaker 0Know mean? You've got big bodybuilders burn fat. So, all right, but good question, man. That was a great 1. 44 year old female, 150
7:38Speaker 0pounds, five'nine athlete
7:40Speaker 0and gym girl
7:41Speaker 0in weights section, not cardio equipment. If you know what I mean, I eat protein, 130, 150 grams per day, higher fat, moderate, low carb,
7:50Speaker 0had a baby at 42. Good for you. And still feeling not quite myself yet.
7:56Speaker 0I'm trying to figure out when did she have the baby, but anyways, looking to add muscle like bikini model build,
8:02Speaker 0have a great tone now, just a few squishy areas I want to firm up. So I'm close, just need some help. My current stack is Tessa,
8:11Speaker 01.5 mg nightly, Reta
8:14Speaker 0micro dosing 1.5
8:16Speaker 0mg weekly,
8:17Speaker 0GHKCU 2.5 mg and the GHKCU
8:21Speaker 0serum. Wolverine stack, Wolverine blend 1.5 to 2.5 mg,
8:26Speaker 03 to 4 times at night, get rid of aches of any kind. I bought HGH,
8:32Speaker 020 vials,
8:33Speaker 0Tessa Ipah, and CJC Ipah. What
8:37Speaker 0should I do? Change my current dose,
8:40Speaker 0add HGH
8:42Speaker 0or switch to Tesa Ipamorelin.
8:44Speaker 0I tried CJC Ipamorelin.
8:46Speaker 0Wasn't as big a fan of it. Got the rash. Thanks for all you do. Love your products. Podcasts.
8:52Speaker 0The GHK-3two
8:53Speaker 00 is awesome from my face. I I'm going to start there. Yeah, go ahead. Cause you have a little bit personal experience as part of that. I've been kind of, ready for this to pop up because I knew it would.
9:05Speaker 0Man, so for the longest time I didn't run CJC just because I'd read if there was just there's some of these secreted cogs, I run HGH and, just some of the negatives I've
9:16Speaker 0with the CJC. I just never had the huge interest
9:20Speaker 0in running it. And, I think I've talked about it on the podcast, but I did, I did it a few, maybe a month ago, 2 months ago, whatever it was. And I did good for about a week and then I injected it and I got an instant rash. I mean, it was, it was so trippy that like it was so freaking instant that I was like, Woah.
9:38Speaker 0And I do it in my legs sometimes and it was like, rash.
9:42Speaker 0And I felt a little bit weird and I'm like, That was gnarly.
9:46Speaker 0So needless to say, I didn't do CJC anymore because
9:49Speaker 0for those that don't know, if you do it and you have that, it's probably going to be worse next time. Not every time, but generally speaking. Yeah,
9:56Speaker 0generally it's a histamine situation.
9:59Speaker 0So KPV
10:01Speaker 0does work. KPV is great.
10:03Speaker 0So to finish this off,
10:05Speaker 0my wife, you know, she's tiny and, we switched things around and she loves Tesamorelin, blah, blah, blah. So I was going to try the CJC. I didn't think that she would have a reaction. I think it's not so common that I was that worried about it, to be honest with you. And I injected her just
10:23Speaker 010 units and dude, she went to put my son to bed almost
10:28Speaker 0immediately. She came out and her lips
10:30Speaker 0were so freaking swollen
10:32Speaker 0and she was completely red and she had this fear in her eyes. Like, I think something's wrong. And I was like, Holy shit, woah.
10:39Speaker 0You know, it's my wife. And I'm like, Woah, woah, woah, woah. And like, I'm like, Wow. So I had KPV. I gave her a shot at KPV that helped,
10:46Speaker 0but it was gnarly dude. I called Will. Was like, dude, bro, holy woah.
10:51Speaker 0So I won't really be doing CJC anymore.
10:55Speaker 0Mean, people love it. People love it. That's great. But then I think, I mean, you had the same thing. You had the rash. It seems to be way more common than even I was even expecting it to be. I mean, for me to get it and my wife to get it different bottle, wasn't the same bottle, widely
11:11Speaker 0separated from in regards to a couple of months or something from when we did it.
11:15Speaker 0Hey, anyways,
11:16Speaker 0I read negatives. There was a reason I didn't do it for a long time and, yeah.
11:21Speaker 0So there you go. Everybody,
11:23Speaker 0Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin,
11:25Speaker 0wins in regards to the question there.
11:28Speaker 0Should you do the HGH now
11:30Speaker 0for women, my take on this might be different than Will, so let's dig into it. So for women,
11:36Speaker 0little bit goes a long way.
11:38Speaker 0Doing an
11:40Speaker 0HGH in the morning and the secretagogue
11:43Speaker 0at night, I'm going to tell you, I think that's going to be a little bit much for a woman. I just don't think women need that much. I would do eitheror.
11:50Speaker 0And I'm going to lean towards the HGH because it's actual, just some, you know, somatropin in the morning. And I mean, a woman can get away, in my opinion, with 1 IU. You know, I mean, I do too. You know, 1 IU would go a long way.
12:03Speaker 0So I would try that. You have it. So you bought it. So why don't you do that and, kind of put the secretagogues
12:09Speaker 0on ice? Now you could do the test of Ip at night.
12:12Speaker 0Again, I think it's overkill for a woman. If you're a man, I think that would be great. I just think it's too much for a woman.
12:20Speaker 0Yeah, so that's what, and then I would kick the CJC to the curb, man. I am not a fan and I would hate to see what happened to my wife happened to you. It sucked. It was scary.
12:29Speaker 0She was scared.
12:31Speaker 1That's where we're at. Yeah, that's scary. And it's gonna get worse. Like I wouldn't. Basically Her lips were huge.
12:36Speaker 0Huge. Mean, like huge. And she was flushed.
12:39Speaker 0She pulled up her shirt and she was just freaking fiery red. I was like, Woah, dude, that I was scared that. So if you do have that, so you all know,
12:48Speaker 0have some KPV that isn't antihistamine. So
12:51Speaker 1like, and KPV,
12:53Speaker 1but like also
12:54Speaker 1an antihistamine,
12:56Speaker 1which we all know Benadryl stuff,
12:59Speaker 1stuff like that will also help. But if all you got is KPV,
13:02Speaker 1use the damn KPV. And
13:05Speaker 1it would generally like every single, every allergic histamine related reaction we have, it always gets worse every time. So
13:12Speaker 1you probably cannot, I would throw that away or find somebody who wants to use it. But you used it. So find a close friend.
13:20Speaker 1They're trying to get us there, buddy.
13:22Speaker 1So I do think that also we have talked about this before, but the quick lesson on
13:27Speaker 1running the secret to dogs with HGH,
13:30Speaker 1with exogenous HGH, right? Basically the
13:34Speaker 1Tesamorelin,
13:35Speaker 1the actual, it activating your pituitary pituitary telling body to, Hey, let's make more
13:41Speaker 1HGH
13:42Speaker 1will get blunted.
13:44Speaker 1Okay. By, if you're taking exogenous HGH and you already have high levels, then that pituitary action might get blunted a little bit. And that new, the secretagog
13:54Speaker 1just may not do much for you. It may not really stimulate any more growth. Now, the Ipamorelin
14:01Speaker 1portion of it will absolutely still enhance your growth pulses.
14:05Speaker 1So even when taking exogenous HGH,
14:09Speaker 1the IpA will still kind of enhance our regular pulses. Your body just won't be making more from the secretagogue.
14:14Speaker 1It might be, but maybe, but it's negligible.
14:17Speaker 1But Tesamorelin has another property besides just
14:21Speaker 1telling pituitary to make more growth, and that is to target belly fat. True. And
14:26Speaker 0and
14:29Speaker 1what's our other what's
14:30Speaker 1our other kind of fat that's stuck to your internal organs that's really bad? Forgive
14:35Speaker 1visceral. Thank you that. Thank you for the crowd.
14:39Speaker 1Tesamorelin will do that. We'll also burn that. Okay. And that, that effect will not be blunted.
14:45Speaker 1But like JD said, I still think like the real deal, right? They're all HGH is probably best. And 1 I use probably all you need. What I would suggest
14:53Speaker 1instead of stacking even more growth hormone,
14:56Speaker 1know, producing,
14:59Speaker 1compounds on there, I would maybe take IGF-1LR3,
15:04Speaker 1which is not really a it's the byproduct, right? It's basically the portion of it. When you do HGH,
15:10Speaker 1it basically makes your body metabolic or recovery, right? Recovery meaning build more, build tissue and build muscles back. IGF-one is
15:18Speaker 1the end product of that that builds tissue. So it's probably your best muscle building,
15:24Speaker 1compound. Don't really wanna do it for very long, but IGF-1LR-three
15:28Speaker 1might be a good thing. And, and it takes time. Like your body, a bikini body is doable at your age,
15:35Speaker 1but
15:36Speaker 1things just take time and consistency,
15:38Speaker 1consistency,
15:39Speaker 1and, and,
15:40Speaker 1you know, get a plan that is sustainable that you can keep long term, right? And long term by a year.
15:46Speaker 1And that's what I mean. I don't mean 20 years, but that's kind of how you'll slowly whittle away those squishy
15:53Speaker 1spots and turn them hard. Right? There's nothing 1 for a woman
15:56Speaker 1where there's nothing really we can give you that whack overnight like steroids would do for a man. Yeah.
16:02Speaker 1They would do that for a man. You took enough stuff and you ate- Yeah,
16:05Speaker 0Because Retta is close. But you're doing that. She could up the Retta too. We don't know what she's trying to weigh. She doesn't talk about her weight, but 1.5 is pretty low. I mean, assuming a microdose on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, probably 0.25
16:18Speaker 0of a mg. You could go up to a mg and just see if that helps. That would help a little bit. Think. True.
16:24Speaker 1True. That is true. That's still fairly low. Yeah. Swamp burn fat. And that's very low. So 1.5 mg a week. That's very low on the Reta. Yeah.
16:33Speaker 1Feel free to go up a little bit. No. Alright. I'm reading. Number 3.
16:39Speaker 0Any
16:41Speaker 1idea if you will discuss
16:43Speaker 1Prostamax
16:44Speaker 1and
16:45Speaker 1the salute?
16:46Speaker 1I'm 49 and have an OAB overactive bladder. I've ordered
16:51Speaker 1both and waiting for delivery, but wanted to see what the experts have to say. I love the show.
16:58Speaker 1Do you I don't really like, okay, maybe,
17:02Speaker 1maybe once we get a little bit more data and maybe, and have tried it and have, have some more experience,
17:08Speaker 1I think that we could do an episode on that, but now is not the time, but
17:13Speaker 1we will look into it.
17:15Speaker 0Yeah. It's not something that's really like, like something that's really, really crossed our path. I, you know, I'm 48. So I'll tell you my experience of that. I don't really run into that right now. I did during COVID so
17:27Speaker 0maybe 2020 give or take. I was like peeing like 6 times a night. It was horrible. And, obviously thinking there was something wrong with me. Finally,
17:35Speaker 0my wife said, you got to see a doctor. And at that time you couldn't see a doctor. So I had to wait. So I finally got on a zoom call with a doctor and
17:43Speaker 0I thought he was going to have some earth shattering advice
17:47Speaker 0because I was peeing 6 and 7 times a night and not sleeping well. Yeah.
17:51Speaker 0And, his advice was this, he said, How old are you? And I, you know, at the time, 44 or whatever it was. And he goes, and I said, And I'm with testosterone, you know, put it on the line. He goes, Yeah, you're just getting old, man. And that's really kind of where he left it. I said, I was kind of expecting a little bit more doc,
18:09Speaker 0just more proof on why I'm not a huge fan of Western medicine. But my
18:14Speaker 0point on that story is I
18:17Speaker 0never really did a whole lot to fix it. I don't know what really rectified it. I don't run. I don't have that problem anymore.
18:23Speaker 0But I'm going to always on the side of, you know, Vesalud is a bioregulator, so it's not, you know, it's, it's, I think, Prostomax, I think that's like an over counter. I don't know much about that, but that's a bioregular. I'm going to always on the side of trying that before a pharmaceutical.
18:40Speaker 0I just, pharmaceuticals
18:41Speaker 0suck. I just am not a fan of them. I didn't take whatever that doctor prescribed me just because I'm not a fan of pharmaceuticals.
18:49Speaker 0And I got past it. So
18:51Speaker 0again, I don't remember how, why and how it fixed itself, but I don't have the problem anymore. So
18:56Speaker 1I don't know. That's kind of vague, but- that's fine. I don't really have a great answer either for you, but I would say, so is there anything that you are taking
19:03Speaker 1that might
19:05Speaker 1swell your prostate?
19:06Speaker 1Okay.
19:07Speaker 1You taking testosterone?
19:09Speaker 1Like, are you taking testosterone? Are you taking,
19:12Speaker 1Winstrel or,
19:14Speaker 1Mastron
19:14Speaker 1or,
19:15Speaker 1Primo?
19:16Speaker 1If I take Primo for like 2 weeks,
19:20Speaker 1it will like swell up my prostate every time. Interesting. Yeah. And are you just peeing a lot or do you have like a weak stream?
19:29Speaker 1Basically you gotta pee really bad. Yeah. And then you're gonna pee and like, it just kind of, I mean, it comes out, but like not nearly equal
19:36Speaker 1to what
19:37Speaker 1you had to do. And then you feel it. Then you're like, well, I guess I'm done.
19:41Speaker 1So 30 minutes later, got to go pee really bad and the same thing happens.
19:45Speaker 1That is generally a swollen prostate and obviously, and it occurs from those substances because of DHT, right? Those are all DHT derivative
19:54Speaker 1compounds, and therefore they're gonna raise the hell out your DHT.
19:58Speaker 1And dutasteride,
19:59Speaker 1finasteride are the
20:01Speaker 1like pharmaceutical
20:03Speaker 1drugs that will
20:06Speaker 1fix those. Side effects on those things suck.
20:10Speaker 1It's the same thing that we talked about, like for me taking,
20:14Speaker 1to combat
20:15Speaker 1hair loss.
20:17Speaker 0So sex drive sex drive,
20:20Speaker 1like I really feel those things. I disliked
20:23Speaker 1them, but the good thing is whenever I, in the past, if I have felt to that, I take literally 1 pill for 1 day, 2 days, and it fixes the problem for a year or until I'm dummy again, trying to do like pretty much,
20:37Speaker 1but it fixes them immediately. I did the 1st time I ever took them, you know, I took it for like a week straight and like, yeah, killed this, killed my sex drive, but also just made it like,
20:47Speaker 1it made me almost just depressed.
20:49Speaker 1Like brain's like, don't
20:51Speaker 1care about much, you know, no happiness,
20:55Speaker 1no motivation.
20:57Speaker 1What's it like that? Sucks. Nobody wants to feel like that. No.
21:00Speaker 0Unless you're making a difference. I'd rather P 6 times in the week, the same night than feel like that. So I don't know. I'd look into it.
21:06Speaker 1Sometimes it's just an estrogen hormonal imbalance,
21:10Speaker 1but I would
21:12Speaker 1I'll guess with JD too,
21:14Speaker 1man, you ordered them, take them.
21:16Speaker 0Yeah.
21:18Speaker 1I do
21:18Speaker 1not have any direct
21:20Speaker 1experience with them either of those. So,
21:24Speaker 1and don't have much anecdotal like experience than anybody else. So I don't want to give you any answers I don't know about.
21:31Speaker 0All right. Why is this so, this is good 1. So why are there so
21:34Speaker 0much different information around Tesamorelin
21:37Speaker 0meaning why it gels up,
21:39Speaker 0has to be used in 3 days, in the fridge, don't put in the fridge, keep room temperature
21:45Speaker 0in the dark,
21:47Speaker 0mix it room temperature, mix it cold, etcetera, etcetera. Great question. You want to take that 1? Cause I know we've discussed it. It's very interesting.
21:54Speaker 1Yeah. Okay. So Tesamorelin
21:57Speaker 1is that,
22:00Speaker 1is 1 of these kind of like,
22:02Speaker 1well, all peptides are fragile, right? They're like living,
22:05Speaker 1living, but like amino acid chains that are really fragile. So all of them, this is why whenever you mix water in there, you don't want to blast the water in. You don't want to shake the thing. So Tesamorelin
22:14Speaker 1seems to be
22:16Speaker 1ultra sensitive. Okay.
22:18Speaker 1And it gels up. We, we knew a lot of people that were mixing like really cold water in and then getting it in, and it was gelling up even, even putting as you're putting your water in just too fast.
22:29Speaker 1Right? So you really,
22:32Speaker 1it will make it gel up. It doesn't mean it's bad Tesamorelin.
22:35Speaker 1Just is cause it's that is the compound. The higher the dose Tesamorelin, the easier it's going to do that usually because like a 20 mg is still coming in a 3 mil bottle. It's a max amount of water you can put in it.
22:47Speaker 1Therefore it'll jelly even easier.
22:49Speaker 1But so here's a suggestion. Now the 3 days, like mix it and use it all in 3 days.
22:56Speaker 1There's no evidence.
22:57Speaker 1There's no evidence I've come across that that's true. Even from the actual prescription manufacturer,
23:02Speaker 1it's like EGRIFTA or something like that,
23:05Speaker 1that makes it,
23:07Speaker 1they don't even say that.
23:09Speaker 1It, that may just be some, I don't know. Well, that's manufacturer rumors. Yeah.
23:15Speaker 1Or even right. Rumor from manufacturers. So people get buy their stuff more often and use it faster than buy more.
23:22Speaker 1But here is the strategy.
23:25Speaker 1It will so
23:26Speaker 1really we'll also realize so 1st of mix room temp water.
23:30Speaker 1Okay. Then the Tesamorelin,
23:32Speaker 1if you want to store it in a cool,
23:35Speaker 1cool,
23:36Speaker 1not cold,
23:38Speaker 1not really cold, and dark and dry place,
23:41Speaker 1that will be just fine. K?
23:43Speaker 1It'll it'll work and it will stay that way. The problem occurs when people put really cold water in. Right. Or they even put room temp water, put it back in their fridge, and their fridge is like 1 of people who keeps their fridge really, really cold.
23:56Speaker 1That's the that is gonna be the problem. So if you can keep your fridge maybe a little bit normal warmer than a normal recommended fridge, it'll be okay to put in there. Yeah.
24:06Speaker 1Likewise,
24:08Speaker 1or in a cool, I mean, probably not even up to 70 degrees, 65 degrees or so dark, 3
24:14Speaker 1dry cabinet.
24:16Speaker 0That's okay. That's also okay. But put room temp water That's new. I mean, that's, we've come a long way from that. Mean, we continue to grow and learn and we wouldn't have said that. I mean, we, the beginning, I mean, you looked at some of the stuff, like some of the podcasts a year ago, we were injecting cold water at the time. That's what we thought we'd read that.
24:34Speaker 0Yeah, like anything, only cold water into the box. Yeah. Yeah. But now I keep my water out in room temperature.
24:41Speaker 1Yep. I kept it the freezer all time. It's just lots of experience, but also it's because, you know, back way back when the new peptides are coming out all the time. When we started,
24:49Speaker 1there weren't that many peptides and the ones that were out
24:54Speaker 0were ones that weren't very fragile. Yeah, it's true. Right? And so then the new stuff comes out and they have other complications and they're delicate. Yeah, it's funny. I mean, Tesamorelin is definitely like an AOD. Those 2 gel up pretty commonly. I've just never had that problem with Tesamorelin. AOD I have, but not ever since we've been using acetate water in it.
25:14Speaker 0But yeah, I don't know. A lot of people do. I've never had it
25:18Speaker 1And I guess just use it like everything else.
25:21Speaker 1If you're gonna do Tesamorelin, like don't also just don't let it be sitting mixed. Don't miss your doses. Leave it out a little bit. It'll Yeah, it might it might ungel. I often see people will send me like videos like, look,
25:33Speaker 1and it you can tell that it's just halfway frozen. Yeah.
25:36Speaker 1Just warm it like you tell it's like about to turn into ice, which I think will basically ruin it also if it actually gets frozen.
25:44Speaker 1So, but use it. Okay. A 10 mg
25:48Speaker 1Tesamorelin
25:50Speaker 1generally, I think people should start at maybe 500 micrograms, test their tolerance, and then be, then bump up to 1000 micrograms
25:57Speaker 1daily.
25:58Speaker 1So that would mean that the 1000 micrograms, a 10 mg bottle will last you 10 days.
26:05Speaker 1It'll be just, it'll be good for those 10 days. I promise you as long as it gel, it doesn't gel up. And the same thing for 20 mg, 20 days,
26:13Speaker 1it'll be good for those 20 days as
26:16Speaker 0long as you don't allow it to gel up. And again, do not squirt the water on there very hard like a lot of people do. Yep. None of the peptides. Don't
26:24Speaker 0do that. If you're gonna coach it,
26:27Speaker 1coach it to the side of the thing and just Yeah. Yeah. Let's put the needle in and then bend it, do this, and shoot it on the sidewall. Yeah. Let it go in. And if it's and it's really vacuumed, right, just kind of impede the plunger from just blasting the water in. You know? Depends on how big if you happen to use in, a 3 mil syringe that water will go in fast if you let it. So don't let it. Okay, next. Cool. Alright. So, hey guys, huge fan and all in the peptide game with you both. I'm 38 year old man
26:57Speaker 0aiming for a body recomb, lifting weights
27:00Speaker 04 days a week at least and eating a high protein tight
27:04Speaker 0diet. 6 weeks in to CJC Ipamorelin,
27:10Speaker 02 Migs recently increased AOD,
27:13Speaker 0500 micrograms, Retta, 8 Migs just increased with CLO NAD-1MQ-1C.
27:19Speaker 0My question is, when I am done with my 12 to
27:24Speaker 016 week cycle of GHRP-NGH-6.6,
27:29Speaker 0I want to keep up with the momentum. What are your thoughts on cycling on HGH
27:35Speaker 0HGH 1 to 2 IU per day during my rest period of peptides?
27:39Speaker 0Easy math. Yes, do it. You should be doing that anyway.
27:44Speaker 0Yeah. I mean, age Yeah. 38. 38.
27:46Speaker 0I would say just, you're obviously somebody that's
27:51Speaker 0into peptides as we are.
27:53Speaker 0You're 38,
27:55Speaker 0know, TRT and HGH. We've said it numerous times. I mean, that's a staple for me.
28:00Speaker 01 to 2 IU,
28:02Speaker 0you can run that, not necessarily in perpetuity, but maybe I
28:06Speaker 0plan to run it in very long periods and that'll just help you to
28:10Speaker 0lay your base and then you can add in secretagogues.
28:13Speaker 0Think, did you say in CJC and Tesa? I wouldn't run those 2 together. I would run either or.
28:19Speaker 0And then the HGH in the morning, but the answer, my answer is very easy. Yes, do that. Dude, I don't know. I think that,
28:27Speaker 1you know, okay. Exogenous
28:29Speaker 1HGH,
28:30Speaker 1like take yours like a ramp up period. Okay. It doesn't,
28:34Speaker 1we always say it's a, it's a long term play. Okay.
28:38Speaker 1I don't think frankly, it's a very good idea for you to do to like get on security dogs and pull out the HGH.
28:45Speaker 1So then now you're on security dogs
28:48Speaker 1for 12 weeks. And then as soon as you stop those at HGH in for, for 8 weeks and then pull that and then go back to security. You read that. I didn't read it like that.
28:58Speaker 0If he's just going to do that for 8 weeks, if that's the case, then don't do that because it's not an 8 week play at all. I'm close the secretagogue. Sure. HGH is not an 8 week play. It's a lot longer. Yeah. It's a lot, it's a lot longer that that is pointless. You're really just kind of, you're, you're not,
29:14Speaker 1I don't know. You're not me. You're really kind of throwing off your body's like pulsatile
29:18Speaker 1function, how it normally produces HGH. I would
29:22Speaker 1stick with either 1 or the other. Frankly, I would go either, Hey,
29:27Speaker 1just, can, you can keep running the security guards and maybe switch between like, Hey, go see if you're good with CJC, 1st of all, right? CJC Ipamorelin for 12 weeks, and then go Tessa Ip of 12 weeks.
29:39Speaker 1That keeps your body's, you know, pulsing and that keeps a normal rhythm sustainable rhythm to it.
29:46Speaker 1Or
29:48Speaker 1just do the HGH
29:50Speaker 1that whole time. K? You could also add just Ipamorelin
29:53Speaker 1on top of just the h HGH.
29:56Speaker 1Because again,
29:58Speaker 1the worry is that these secretagogues,
30:01Speaker 1if you run HGH,
30:02Speaker 1okay,
30:03Speaker 1and now a secretagogue on top, that secretagogue on top ain't gonna be doing much because the HGH is blunting
30:10Speaker 1that pituitary response. So it's just not gonna be really making more of its own growth. And I don't know anything just
30:17Speaker 1like just like a bodybuilder bulks and
30:21Speaker 1cuts and bulks you like that, that is not good for a human body.
30:25Speaker 1With growth, we kind of want to get it into a good rhythm and
30:30Speaker 1that's why HGH is a long play, right? We want to get into a rhythm, doing the same thing and getting better and better ramping that up as opposed to just switching the way that the body
30:39Speaker 1makes it and receives it. It's confusing. So
30:43Speaker 1may, I don't know, despite how the question was asked, hopefully that gave an answer that you can apply. Yeah, that was good. All right. 6.
30:52Speaker 1So my current stack is Reta 3 Migs once week 1, once weekly,
30:58Speaker 1morning fasted 2 mg Tessa, once nightly,
31:02Speaker 1fasted 2 50 micrograms of Ipi once nightly fasted.
31:07Speaker 1I'm not sure there's no punctuation, so I don't know which goes with which, but fasted 1 mg Wolverine blend.
31:13Speaker 1500 mg BPC
31:15Speaker 1and TB-five hundred nightly, fasted 2 mg GHK
31:19Speaker 1CU nightly fasted.
31:21Speaker 1That's it, maybe. 100 micrograms
31:23Speaker 1B12 morning fasted
31:26Speaker 1started
31:27Speaker 1at 365,
31:29Speaker 112:16.
31:31Speaker 1Started at 365.
31:33Speaker 1I think that's a weight pounds. Okay. On December 16, currently 338
31:39Speaker 1on February 14.
31:41Speaker 1Good
31:42Speaker 1job.
31:44Speaker 1Resistance slash cardio 3 days a week.
31:47Speaker 1BBJ BBJ
31:49Speaker 1Muay Thai 3 days a week, 1,500 calorie intake
31:54Speaker 1daily,
31:55Speaker 1and typically around 125
31:57Speaker 1grams of protein and carbs, 50 grams of fat feel amazing. Any suggestions and anything else to help with body recomp or cellular help? Any chances you guys would recommend?
32:06Speaker 1Any changes you guys would recommend?
32:09Speaker 1Why don't you start since I was
32:12Speaker 0stumbling through The 1st thing, and this
32:15Speaker 0is just, I don't know, I mean, 100 calories is pretty low.
32:19Speaker 0You're a big guy. Now you're trying to lose weight obviously, and that's great. I'm going to always tell you, I think you should do some fasting. You're perfect for it. You're doing BJ-1MQ,
32:28Speaker 0Muay Thai, Brazilian
32:30Speaker 0jujitsu.
32:31Speaker 0I think that's great.
32:33Speaker 0Were you thinking that to 1,500 calories for a guy that size is going to definitely be pretty small. I mean, you got to keep your metabolism going now, if you're going to do that,
32:41Speaker 0do the fasting. So
32:43Speaker 0I'm sure you've seen some of my stuff that if
32:47Speaker 0you throw in the fasting and even maybe try during the week to do 1 huge meal or maybe 2 meals,
32:53Speaker 0And then on the weekends eat. I do that a lot and it's worked out great. I think that will help you.
32:58Speaker 0You're saying you're at your
33:02Speaker 0weight is 3 38 and you're eating 125
33:05Speaker 0grams. I would up the protein
33:07Speaker 0for sure. Eat more protein. I you're not eating enough, dude, to be honest with you. You're a big guy.
33:12Speaker 0And I know that's kind of a mind F to a lot of people. They think we're not supposed to eat, but you got to keep in mind that you got to keep your metabolism going. And if you're eating too much, it sometimes does the opposite of what you want it to do. So
33:26Speaker 0I would throw in some fasting and eat a little bit more when you eat.
33:30Speaker 0Okay, cool. I agree.
33:33Speaker 0Were you thinking that too when you saw $1,500
33:35Speaker 1$1,500 a little bit low,
33:38Speaker 1but here's the deal. Do not make a drastic increase on that immediately.
33:42Speaker 1Right? If you are, if your body is used to eating 1,500 calories, if we say you should be eating more than you go up to 3,000,
33:49Speaker 1not going to be good. But like, so what I would do is start
33:53Speaker 1slowly increasing that number and let's increase it by protein. You know I'm saying? Like that's get more calories
34:02Speaker 1via protein, please. You're
34:05Speaker 1a big dude. So my general, I guess if you want if a person wanted to gain the most amount of muscle possible,
34:11Speaker 1okay, I think that
34:14Speaker 11.5 g of protein per pound of body weight
34:19Speaker 1is about what we can take in. Also, every time you eat, it takes about 2 hours for protein to
34:25Speaker 1and depending on your size, 40 to 50 grams of protein per serving, then it takes 2 hours for your body to actually digest and use that, shove it to your muscles. So like in a perfect world,
34:36Speaker 1taking and you're a big dude. So let's go with 50 g per meal, 50 g of protein. I want an injection
34:42Speaker 1of 50 g of protein every 2 hours,
34:46Speaker 120 fourseven.
34:47Speaker 1That way that's not real. We're not really actually injecting protein, but
34:52Speaker 1then you will gain the absolute most amount of muscle. Okay. And I know you're saying, Hey, I'm trying to lose weight, but like promise
34:59Speaker 1me to promise you like lifting weights and gaining muscle is,
35:04Speaker 1is going to make you burn fat and lose fat so much faster. Okay? Just the recovery time that your muscles are sore because you train them. That's the only way to build muscle is by working them out to soreness. Your body's burning a shit ton more calories.
35:17Speaker 1Just recovering
35:18Speaker 1plus every pound of muscle we add, metabolism
35:22Speaker 1speeds up by 50 calories a day. Okay?
35:25Speaker 1And that stuff adds up over time. So
35:28Speaker 1I wouldn't try to increase the caloric amount plus your your your your body burns
35:34Speaker 1pretty damn equal to the amount of calories you take in once it gets used to that. So
35:40Speaker 1you're just kind of killing your metabolism by eating a low amount of calories,
35:44Speaker 1whether you think so or not. It's about the macros of those calories. That's the most important. I always, I frankly just don't think calories should ever factor into anything.
35:52Speaker 1I don't care about calories. What we care about is macros. Right? I care about
35:57Speaker 1protein,
35:58Speaker 1fat, and carbs. I don't give a shit right. If you're eating 1515
36:02Speaker 1hundred calories and it comes from Twinkies,
36:05Speaker 1right? Or 1,500 calories and it comes from steak. There's a massive
36:09Speaker 1difference. I know there's some people's philosophies in calories out. Like that's been
36:12Speaker 1around for a long time. And I'll say calories in calories out makes you lose weight. But it's like, what kind of weight do you want to lose? Right? Like
36:19Speaker 1if you're 1,500
36:21Speaker 0calories of donuts compared to 1,500 calories of like chicken and vegetables, very different. It's a night and day difference. So 1st of all, there's that 2nd.
36:29Speaker 1Let's that's great. It sounds like your exercise is really good.
36:33Speaker 1Is your sleep good?
36:35Speaker 1Sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep, deep sleep, right? DSIP for deep sleep will help. Dihexa
36:41Speaker 1even.
36:43Speaker 1Then
36:45Speaker 1you basically just know like you're going to be, this is a journey, right? You've kicked ass already from December to February. Okay.
36:53Speaker 1You've lost what, 20, 25, 27 pounds. That's really good. Okay.
36:58Speaker 1But this is going to be long term. Like it sure sounds like you are well on your way to making a good lasting life change, but
37:06Speaker 1results are going be, I mean, it's going be kind of fun for you though, because you're going to see fast results. It starts to get really hard towards the end
37:13Speaker 1as you just need to lose a little bit more, right? So you're doing the right thing by not just
37:19Speaker 1losing 50 pounds in a month. Although you're on that, you're on that track since you lost 25 pounds and oh no, no, not in 2 weeks,
37:26Speaker 1in 2 months. So you're actually doing, you're doing this at a really healthy rate even based on that starting at 3 65. Like, yeah, you should be losing weight pretty fast at the beginning, doing all these things right.
37:37Speaker 1So
37:38Speaker 1I just hate to,
37:41Speaker 1I just really want you to get into a rhythm of general health. Mitochondria, I'd still may MOTS-thirty
37:48Speaker 11. To get to 3 65
37:51Speaker 1pounds, you have probably had to not be living the most healthy life.
37:55Speaker 1Okay? Therefore, my guess is your mitochondrial health, internal health, insulin sensitivity
38:01Speaker 1is not very good.
38:03Speaker 1So I think it would actually benefit you a lot. Maybe try to add in MOTS-three
38:09Speaker 11, which helps you give us more energy in your mitochondria. SS-thirty 1 basically makes that mitochondria a lot more efficient and healthy so it can use all of that energy.
38:17Speaker 1You might want to try that, see if you notice a difference, but you're feeling great, bro. Just
38:21Speaker 1stay the course, dude. Go with it. What is working and getting you results? Okay. Until you plateau,
38:28Speaker 1that is when it's time to switch everything up. Yep. Okay. So as long as you are losing weight at this rate,
38:35Speaker 01 thing that I don't think that we could, but we probably won't, when I say that you're going to catch it too. So why don't you try to do the microdose? You do it 3 mgs of Retta once a week. I know that's a lot of people think that that's the way to do it. We will say a little bit differently. Why don't you try? Why don't you try to do a MIG Monday, Wednesday, and Friday? You're a big dude too. You can go up on the Retta. I mean, that's a pretty low dose for a guy that your is your side, so you could go up if you want. But
39:02Speaker 0either way, even if you stay at the 3 megs,
39:04Speaker 0a make Monday, Wednesday, Friday, we have just found that it works better.
39:10Speaker 0Just try it. Yeah. You can always go back. Absolutely.
39:14Speaker 1But dude, I don't know. Keep kicking ass. Like, let us know how it goes and ask us when you do plateau out.
39:20Speaker 1Cool. In. Tell us, tell us what's up. Tell us what's next. All right. Go ahead. All right. Does Retatrutide
39:29Speaker 0have any effect on birth control as far as losing weight or effectiveness
39:34Speaker 0on the pill? Man, that was a good question. I've never heard that. Well,
39:39Speaker 11st of all,
39:40Speaker 1there's a lot of like secondary effects that it potentially could have. Right going through big hormonal changes, like losing a whole bunch of weight while being pregnant
39:49Speaker 1is probably
39:50Speaker 1not a great idea.
39:51Speaker 1Plus
39:52Speaker 1it's slowing the gastric emptying. It's basically just really, really slowing down
39:57Speaker 0food going through your intestines down your stomach. The wild world of college football continues Labor Day weekend.
40:04Speaker 0On Saturday,
40:06Speaker 0East Carolina looks to shock Alabama,
40:08Speaker 0and Baylor and Auburn battle it out in Atlanta in the 0.5 flag kickoff game. Then Clemson hits the road looking to spoil Lane Kiffin's Death Valley debut.
40:17Speaker 0Sunday night, it's Louisville versus Ole Miss in Nashville in the inaugural Liberty Mutual Music City kickoff game.
40:24Speaker 0College football Labor Day weekend continues Saturday and Sunday on ABC and the ESPN app. How do we how does a baby eat?
40:32Speaker 1It eats the food that you eat, right, and feeds the baby. So
40:37Speaker 1I would not pick that the time to starve myself and
40:41Speaker 1when I just starve myself, I'm just talking about just general and GLP ones. People just eat start eating less food. Okay. Even on Reta because it makes you not eat as much during each sitting. So I
40:52Speaker 1wouldn't do, I wouldn't do Reta just because of the secondary effects. I don't think I actually write read up on this. I don't think there's any
40:58Speaker 1like direct
41:00Speaker 0effect
41:01Speaker 1where like something in red eye is really like gonna harm the baby, but
41:06Speaker 1those secondary effects, you know, keep your babies. When we get fat while they're pregnant for a reason, dude, because you need to eat. You're eating for 2. Sorry. You just gotta I'd error on the more nutrients
41:17Speaker 1to give that baby.
41:18Speaker 1Also, we do know if we're talking like pre,
41:23Speaker 1if you're trying to get pregnant,
41:25Speaker 1you know, women who are doing bodybuilding shows, you get down, women get down to below like 17 percent and they stop having their period. And because God
41:34Speaker 1goes, yeah, you don't eat enough food for 2. So you don't have enough fat on you for 2 people, so you shouldn't be having a baby.
41:42Speaker 1So I wouldn't, you're not going to want to do that and put yourself in that. Yeah.
41:49Speaker 0More fat causes S-3s pregnant though. That's what she's trying to do because birth control, is it affecting like, I think what she's trying to get out as if she's on the pill
41:57Speaker 0is taking Retrutide
41:59Speaker 0going to basically dilute it. And my understanding is it can, I don't think it will?
42:05Speaker 0It can
42:07Speaker 0just by like slowing down the absorption of
42:10Speaker 0the pill.
42:12Speaker 0My
42:15Speaker 0somewhat guesstimation
42:16Speaker 0for just logic is I don't think I think you'd be fine. Yeah. I think you'd be good.
42:21Speaker 1Fertility will increase as you get as you get more estrogen, more fat, more estrogen, more estrogen,
42:27Speaker 0more fertility also. All right. Am I up? Yeah. Am I up? Yeah. Okay. Hi guys, as always, you for bringing in such great information and insight to the world of peptides and wellness. 56 year old woman here, fit, active, and closing in on those last 5 pounds after the significant weight loss journey,
42:46Speaker 0hoping to lose another 2 to 3% body fat, which is going to take some time. Question about using Ipamorelin
42:53Speaker 0without Tesamorelin
42:54Speaker 0or other GH secretagogues.
42:57Speaker 0I'm finishing up a 12 week course of Tessa,
43:00Speaker 0AOD,
43:01Speaker 0GLOW, and ongoing Retta.
43:03Speaker 0I hadn't tried Ipamorelin before because I was concerned about
43:08Speaker 0interfering grilling
43:09Speaker 0with my recomp and weight loss goals, but your recent podcast made me think that the hunger pulls might be completely manageable and
43:17Speaker 0not contradict
43:19Speaker 0what the Red Eye is doing. So I'm interested, would it be worth trying Ipamorelin
43:23Speaker 0on its own alongside Retta with some sloop?
43:27Speaker 0Or should I wait 6 or 8 weeks until I start another round of Tesa? Thanks so much for your feedback. That was a great question. Yeah.
43:35Speaker 0I don't think that's in, I don't personally think that the hunger of Ipamorelin,
43:41Speaker 0I don't even notice it. I mean, I know that's some of the job of it,
43:45Speaker 0but you know, we've talked about comparing it to like an MK-677
43:50Speaker 0and that will make you hungry. It will make you hungry. Ipamorelin,
43:54Speaker 0I've done countless times, I've never even noticed a difference in hunger
43:59Speaker 0at all. So
44:00Speaker 0my answer to that is I think you're fine. I think you're good. I wouldn't even worry about that. You seem to be a pretty conscience gal anyway.
44:08Speaker 0So I would do that. And then
44:11Speaker 0it's a matter of an opinion.
44:13Speaker 0I think Tessa Ipamorelin together are great. Can you do Ipamorelin? Sure. I mean, I think Ipamorelin for a woman would go a really long way. I think you'll get a little bit of a tone, toneness, but why not do the Tesamorelin because it's going burn that belly fat too.
44:26Speaker 0So I'm going to on the side of do the test of Ipamorelin. Why not?
44:31Speaker 0And don't worry about the hunger. You're going to be good. Yeah. Would agree. I don't think that the
44:37Speaker 1hunger caused by Ipamorelin is all that much. You're right because
44:40Speaker 1of the ghrelin receptor.
44:43Speaker 1I think it'll do more plus you're taking Retta. Would, so yes, I would say to answer the question directly,
44:48Speaker 1hell yeah, I would take Ipam all by itself and SLU-3. Okay.
44:53Speaker 1On top of those. And then if you want to wait for your another round of Tesa, then just add that Tesa back in. So you're doing Tessa and Ipam then at that point,
45:01Speaker 0right
45:02Speaker 1on. And you know, you're 56 and you got to lose that last pound of 5 pounds, right? That takes discipline and good for you to get after it, but like, that's going to be hard. It is hard and it's going to take some discipline, right? Abs and stuff made in the kitchen.
45:17Speaker 1So
45:20Speaker 1watch, you know, eat and be disciplined.
45:23Speaker 1Yeah. She's there. I can tell. Yep. Sleep. You're up. Sleep. All right. Hi, I'm 48 years old
45:29Speaker 1type 1 diabetic female and would love your thoughts on peptide used specifically for T1D
45:35Speaker 1individuals for context. I'm five'seven, 126
45:39Speaker 1pounds and have lost 40 pounds
45:42Speaker 1using tirzepatide and retetradide.
45:44Speaker 1Currently running Reta 1 mg every 4 days,
45:48Speaker 1GLOW 5 days per week, AOD
45:52Speaker 19 5 0 4, 9 6 0 4, 5 daily per week. I recently finished a cycle of Tessa Ipi, and I absolutely loved how I felt on it. Overall, I'm feeling really good and now focusing on building more lean muscle. I did deal with a bit of skinny fat early on after the weight loss. Right? My question is, are there any peptides, stacks, or cycling considerations you found particularly helpful
46:14Speaker 1or things to be cautious with for people with type 1 diabetes?
46:18Speaker 1I'm currently working on
46:21Speaker 1calendaring a year long peptide cycling plan. I would love any high level guidance or principles to keep in mind for T1D specifically.
46:28Speaker 1You all for your education
46:30Speaker 1you put out. So
46:35Speaker 1I would
46:37Speaker 1not take regular
46:39Speaker 1HGH.
46:41Speaker 1Okay.
46:42Speaker 1That doesn't sound like you wanted to, but
46:44Speaker 1while you're taking any of these secretagogues,
46:48Speaker 1I would keep getting your blood I mean, it's you're you're measuring your own blood, my guess is. So
46:54Speaker 1if you did great and you felt great with that,
46:58Speaker 1do on those, that's kind of, I would say that that's the
47:02Speaker 1secretagogues
47:03Speaker 1are the biggest worry
47:04Speaker 1on,
47:06Speaker 1anybody who's, who has insulin issues or diabetes.
47:11Speaker 1Gosh, I don't know. I don't really have much more like you're doing.
47:16Speaker 0I mean, you could take out the secretagogs and just go with AOD,
47:20Speaker 0you know? Absolutely.
47:22Speaker 0Just take it to senior drugs and not even mess with it. We're going to, Will and I just known a long time, so I know I can speak here when I say that we're always going to on the side of caution. Like, not? You have so many dang
47:32Speaker 0peptides
47:33Speaker 0out there that are rad. So like throwing SLU-0UP, throwing AOD, take out the secretagogue and just be safe. I think you're going to get equally as much out of it.
47:42Speaker 0What do you think?
47:43Speaker 0I think so. Mean, just kick the kick the secretagogue through the curve, man. AOD is amazing. 5Amino-1MQ
47:50Speaker 0is amazing. SLU-3P-three 32, amazing. Those are 3 compounds that are not secretive goggles and they are awesome.
47:56Speaker 0So I would do that.
47:58Speaker 1Yeah. I think that everything else, like all of the if you want to do the fat burner, AOD is great. 5 m 1 MQ is just fine with type 1 diabetes.
48:09Speaker 0Sloop is just fine. Yep. Stack them too. I mean, if you're trying to like lose weight and, you know, burn fat, I mean, you can stack those. They go really well together.
48:20Speaker 0And again, just be safe. You're worried about that. So just, you know, it is a great worry.
48:25Speaker 0Why mess with it? Growth hormone, the growth hormone
48:29Speaker 1products are the worst 1, are the ones that you need to worry about. Frankly, everything else is either
48:35Speaker 1a non factor or is helpful.
48:38Speaker 0Okay? So
48:39Speaker 1that's,
48:40Speaker 1that's all I got. But I don't mean to yeah, just keep doing what is it keep being consistent.
48:48Speaker 0Right. All right. You're up reading. Am I taking this home? Yes. All right.
48:53Speaker 0Hey guys, I love the podcast. Thanks for putting so much knowledge out there. I have a few questions
48:58Speaker 0and would appreciate any guidance when you get a chance. I'm 35 year old female who strength trains regularly,
49:05Speaker 0tracks my diet closely.
49:07Speaker 0Like many of us, I am chasing the dream of getting lean while maintaining muscle.
49:12Speaker 0Don't worry, I have my Retta
49:14Speaker 0already in order after all you guys have to say about it. I previously ran IpocJC,
49:20Speaker 0very popular compound, right? And love the results, especially this sleep. During my 1st cycle, I developed a well, red welts. Here we go again, at the injection site that
49:32Speaker 0lasted a few days, but I pushed through it. On my 2nd cycle within about 2 weeks, I started getting full body hives.
49:40Speaker 0The hives resolved
49:41Speaker 0within 2 to 3 days of stopping Ipamorelin. I've
49:45Speaker 0since switched to Tesamorelin,
49:47Speaker 0but I'm not seeing the results as impressive as I did of the Ipamorelin.
49:51Speaker 0It's because CJC is just more stronger. I remember, it being a mentioned that KPV may help reduce allergic reactions. Will
50:00Speaker 0though at the time I broke into hives, I was also taking Clo.
50:06Speaker 0I'm not sure if the reaction was from Ipam, CJC,
50:09Speaker 0or combination,
50:10Speaker 0so I'm hesitant to retry without guidance.
50:13Speaker 0Is there any alternative you'd recommend stacking with Tesamorelin instead?
50:18Speaker 0Also after listening to the podcast, I started MOTS-3.0
50:22Speaker 0game changer for energy and focus. I run it with NAD
50:26Speaker 0plus which I like, but MOTS-3.0 really stands out for me. I'm considering adding SS-thirty 1 as well. What protocol would you recommend with running NAD MOTS-1C
50:38Speaker 0and SS-thirty 1 together? Should
50:41Speaker 0they be stacked on the same days or staggered?
50:44Speaker 1Great question, man. All right. I can give you some answers on this 1. So, A, so you got had a reaction twice to C2, CJC and Ipamorelin. All right. Well, that was the CJC Ipamorelin.
50:57Speaker 1My guess is the reaction was to the CJC, by the way,
51:02Speaker 1twice. So don't do that 0.333 time. Right? But you also got a had a reaction to Khloe,
51:08Speaker 0or was it Khloe? I think that she was saying that the the Khloe,
51:12Speaker 0I was also- Because she was saying it had KPV, so maybe she was saying that that- Oh, well, it may help reduce allergic reactions,
51:19Speaker 1though at the time I broke into hives and I was also taking Clo.
51:23Speaker 1Okay. So KPV,
51:24Speaker 1so 1st of all, KPV
51:26Speaker 1is helpful for your gut and helps with your immune
51:30Speaker 1system. It is not
51:33Speaker 1a straight up antihistamine.
51:38Speaker 1Like a So Benadryl is the thing that is going to help the, the
51:42Speaker 1reactions. Okay.
51:43Speaker 1Clo.
51:44Speaker 1It might help. It's worth a try.
51:47Speaker 1And
51:48Speaker 1it could help, but
51:50Speaker 1it's all you got.
51:51Speaker 1But Benadryl is like the guarantee we will fix it. Now. I still think that the reaction is probably not safe for you to go, well, screw it. I'll just take CJC, Ipam and a Benadryl every time. Not a good idea.
52:03Speaker 1Now if you did happen to react, so therefore the KPV and CLO may just not, you still had a reaction. The KPV wasn't strong enough in there. Or,
52:12Speaker 1Hey, sometimes people are,
52:14Speaker 1can be allergic to the binder fillers that are put in these peptides when you do make a blend. Okay. So they have to put something different,
52:24Speaker 1in there when they actually blend a couple peptides together.
52:26Speaker 1And I know some of those, I read a big long article about an employee for a lab, like literally couldn't, she couldn't hang out with her friends if
52:35Speaker 1they wore the lab coat, which touched their regular clothes,
52:38Speaker 1like 16 hours later,
52:40Speaker 1if they were making any blended pipettes. She was that allergic to that binding that binding chemical. That's crazy. Yeah. Like, it was, like, bad. Like, she almost died the 1st time that she was in there when they started doing it.
52:52Speaker 1So some people can be allergic to the
52:55Speaker 1actual blends.
52:58Speaker 1You taking Tesas, you said, Hey, I didn't have a great, didn't really notice much.
53:02Speaker 1It could be, I don't know what you were taking for dose timing,
53:06Speaker 1you know,
53:08Speaker 1fasted or not fasted.
53:10Speaker 1You weren't taking Ipamorelin. I don't think CJC is the culprit usually. Okay. Not Ipamorelin.
53:15Speaker 1Just happen to have always have CJC blended with Ipamorelin.
53:19Speaker 1I would still give Tessa Ipamorelin a fighting shot. Yeah. Now I might also have a bottle of Benadryl next to you.
53:27Speaker 0In case you were allergic to that too,
53:29Speaker 1that blend. But
53:32Speaker 1kick ass, go with I mean, I'm glad to hear that the MOTS-1C and NAD is really a game changer. So you asked here, I can't answer this direct question. Here's what I would do on the protocol
53:42Speaker 1with the MOTS C SS 31.
53:44Speaker 1I like doing 1 mg of MOTS C daily
53:49Speaker 1and then between
53:51Speaker 15
53:52Speaker 1to 10, maybe even a 15 Migs
53:55Speaker 1daily
53:56Speaker 1of the SS-thirty 1. That's
53:58Speaker 1too high. But like I wouldn't do any less than 5 mg of SS-thirty 1. Sorry. I just wouldn't.
54:04Speaker 1But so I do MOTS-1MQ and SS-thirty 1 at least 5 mgs daily.
54:09Speaker 1It doesn't matter. Daily timing of those 2
54:12Speaker 1doesn't really matter. Right? That's not really going to make a difference.
54:15Speaker 1Since you're already taking SS-thirty 1, I mean, you're already taking MOTS-thirty you might just add the SS-thirty 1 in.
54:22Speaker 1Hell yeah. If you asked us, we've had this question before and we answered it in the, in discussed it. If you asked us, which should I, if I wanted to take SS-thirty 1 and MOTS-thirty
54:31Speaker 1okay, I want to take them, but if there were 1 that I wanted to start 1st, a month before I introduce the next, which would it be? And the answer,
54:40Speaker 1well, my answer is now that thinking about it, is the SS-thirty 1 1st because that is what is strengthening the integrity of the mitochondrial wall. Right? So I don't care. You add MOTS-1MQ
54:51Speaker 1in and you don't have any good integrity of the mitochondrial wall. Okay, it's pushing energy and that energy is just floating out in the universe and not doing That's not helpful. So let's make the, the, the, like the housing unit very strong.
55:04Speaker 1Then the energy in, and now it will really work and harness that energy correctly.
55:10Speaker 1So that was my answer.
55:12Speaker 1The NAD,
55:13Speaker 1frankly, I think 15 mgs a day. Yeah, daily.
55:16Speaker 0Daily. A lot of people do it like 3 times a week. I don't know. I do daily. Think so. So
55:22Speaker 0you can get away with 3 times a week. Depends on your objectives. I use it as a coffee type deal. So
55:27Speaker 0those 3 together though, you just nailed it are amazing.
55:31Speaker 1Are light your mitochondria up baby. So you're rocking and rolling. Good job. Thank you guys, JD. Thank you for getting through this. It was a rough weekend at the Denham household
55:41Speaker 1with his wife and- Plastic stuff
55:44Speaker 1going on. So we got Having issues and yeah, so
55:48Speaker 0we are good to You made it through.
55:51Speaker 0And then I called Will this morning. I'm like, coming in a little late today. Can't remember sleeping like shit, but we got through it. I always enjoy this either way. We love the Q and A and the next 1 we will be doing, pepatide of the week. So that'll be next. Anything else? And I get to use my, I get to give y'all some visual learnings. I'm excited.
56:09Speaker 0He sure does, man. But, we will catch you guys next round. Yep. Later.