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0:36Speaker 1Welcome
0:37Speaker 2back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham across the way, my buddy William T. Haws.
0:43Speaker 1What's up, dude? What up, man?
0:45Speaker 2Not much. How's life? What's going on? It's good. I got a little tattoo on Friday. Was that Friday? No, Saturday. Yeah, it was Saturday and I got, think a Wednesday. Feeling pretty good.
0:54Speaker 1Went, Jake goes very deep. Really? I mean, I got my whole kneecap done and I could fall asleep the whole time.
1:02Speaker 1We only went Did back that stuff work?
1:05Speaker 1Yeah. It? Yeah. Wonder why it didn't work for me. Did you wrap it with a yeah, Yeah, you did. That's the key. That's the key. So all we did, I mean, you barely see, because like we didn't do a whole bunch.
1:15Speaker 1True,
1:16Speaker 1pain,
1:17Speaker 1dude, the older I get, the more tattoos
1:19Speaker 1hurt. I don't care who you are. Like if you're saying that tattoos don't hurt, Yeah. You're lying and trying to be tough. Yeah. Although girl you know what? It's funny. Girls girls, women, women have a higher pain threshold tolerance than we do. Right? Because they have to have they have to have more bear babies, and that shit hurts.
1:38Speaker 1But it hurts.
1:40Speaker 1That thing hurts. The older I get, it hurts. Yeah. Lead is same thing. More of a pain pussy I get. So, yes, I've used some I used some numbing cream on there.
1:48Speaker 1And for the reference, everybody, like, we have some really good
1:51Speaker 1numbing cream that's like, it's really good. But I also have always done, like, put it on, sometimes not put saran wrap around it. Right. And then sometimes have, it's funny, on the way there, I was chat GPTing like, much of an effect does is it to actually Saran wrap the thing? And they basically said, well, this is a clinical, like standard practice. I forget the name of it, but to wrap something in a non breathable deal and it makes about a 60% difference. That's a big deal. That's a huge deal. I've noticed that because I've done it numerous times. As you said, when you get older, I don't think that you're,
2:26Speaker 2I just think you get sick of pain. I'm covered in tattoos. I've had so many and like, I'm like, I don't remember like a few tattoos back and I've gotten numerous since I've said this, but I was like, I'm done. Like I'm done. I'm pained out of tattoos. I did for quite a while,
2:41Speaker 1but anyways, like I'd have no problem saying that I use that tattoo cream. I don't care. Don't care. Whatever. Don't care anymore. No. Now folks, everybody's listening. Like if it's your 1st tattoo, no, you cannot use numbing cream. Like we went a long, long time. We got to know it's not allowed. You have to earn it.
2:56Speaker 1You also cannot
2:58Speaker 1tattoo yourselves for the 1st time,
3:01Speaker 1sleeves down
3:02Speaker 2and knees down. Not allowed and neck up. Right? Pulling their hands 1st. Yeah.
3:09Speaker 1Don't stand on your hands. Yeah, you can't do that. You have to earn your way. You have to earn your way there and earn your way getting tattooed and dealing with a lot of pain. But I do remember after I got my chest done,
3:19Speaker 2I also said, dude, I'm fucking done. And I don't, and I took a good break. Yeah, me too. Maybe like 6 months. I'm like, dude, that shit hurts. And then you though, then you get another 1 and you're like, Oh man, I did my left hand and I couldn't always get my right hand. I like your right hand 1. Yeah, he did, he did good. He went really deep. He even told me, he's like, I had to go really deep on your right. So I was expecting him to scar up and none.
3:41Speaker 1Apparently we have 6 scabbed over. If you've been doing HGH, you have, you
3:46Speaker 2know, it's funny you said that. So I was thinking about it, I'm like, how did I not scab at all
3:51Speaker 2and peel off, which is very, I think it's 1 of my 1st it's never done that. Would imagine this peptides. Yeah, probably. Only difference. Probably. Taking a lot.
3:59Speaker 1Probably.
4:00Speaker 1I mean, I even put the serum, the SNAP-eight and GHK-3Cu
4:03Speaker 1serum on mine. So did I? Thinking like, maybe
4:07Speaker 2you're like in a really open wound that might not be the best idea, but I do do that. He said that. He said put it on it and I'm like, you sure it's not gonna take out the ink? He said, No, I think it'd be good. So I was roaming in at night, so obviously that was it.
4:20Speaker 2Good. Hip heads are awesome. Well, today is a Q and A episode,
4:24Speaker 2which we all love so much. Good questions. Good questions.
4:28Speaker 2Yeah, we'll jump right in because this usually goes about an hour or so. Yeah. We'll jump right in. You always do the honors.
4:35Speaker 1Okay, number 1. So everywhere I look online, it says that for exogenous
4:41Speaker 1HGH to work, that means like the actual HGH
4:44Speaker 1hormone
4:45Speaker 1somatropin that you're injecting. Okay.
4:48Speaker 1Exogenous
4:48Speaker 1means exit outside
4:50Speaker 1of the body going in. Endogenous means internally made.
4:56Speaker 1Exogenous is to work at its most optimal. You have to take it fasted, but I've taken HGH fasted and with meals, and I've got amazing results both times. Only difference I felt is that when I take HGH fasted, it gives me more of a fat burning effect. When I take it with food, it gives me more of a performance recovery effect. Is this something I made up in my head or does HGH only really work when take it
5:18Speaker 1Love the podcast. Keep up the word good work guys.
5:21Speaker 1Okay. I think that holy shit. Are incredibly in tune to your body. I was wondering
5:27Speaker 1if you felt that or read that. He
5:30Speaker 1read the opposite That it shouldn't really work. It should blunt the effects, but this is what I feel. Right? I mean, that's really amazing. You are in tune with your body like crazy because that is basically, that is what's happening. That's true.
5:43Speaker 1The,
5:45Speaker 1the insulin,
5:46Speaker 1basically if you eat, if you are not fasted and you are fed before taking the HGH,
5:51Speaker 1it is going to blunt the metabolic effect.
5:54Speaker 1It's going to blunt the fat burning effect. Okay? But regardless
5:58Speaker 1if you have food in you or not, when you take the HGH, it's always going to convert to the IGF 1 and IGF-one is what gives you that recovery effect.
6:07Speaker 1Okay.
6:08Speaker 1So
6:09Speaker 1you're feeling everything you just said is perfectly true.
6:12Speaker 1Although, so, so if fasted,
6:15Speaker 1you're getting both effects. Okay. Metabolic and IGF-one,
6:19Speaker 1which is the growth recovery,
6:21Speaker 1just as much. If not fasted,
6:23Speaker 1you're getting a blunted metabolic, therefore fat burning effect and the same good IGF-one output. Yeah, still getting the IGF-one.
6:31Speaker 2I don't know why you would not want to get both, like the fat burning. I mean, that's 1 of the reasons why I love HGH so much because of fat burning, man, you're taking it for 6 months plus you are cruising. You really do notice the fat burning, but
6:44Speaker 2I've also read that bodybuilders will take it with, you know, food and when they eat with a lot of like,
6:52Speaker 2glucose,
6:53Speaker 2you know, big meals.
6:56Speaker 2I don't think it's going to change the difference in regards to IGF-one. It's just going to change the fat burning. So if you're going to do it, why not burn fat?
7:02Speaker 1Yeah.
7:04Speaker 1Why not? Might as well. Even if you're big, it's still good to burn fat. So, but that was a great question. I've, it's never crossed our path. So I thought that was really he's right. Like when I 1st started doing growth a few years back, like I didn't even think about, never had heard about this fast, fasted or not several
7:19Speaker 1years ago. And,
7:20Speaker 1and it sure still worked.
7:22Speaker 1Now, I guess I'm not as in tune to hear going, Oh, it worked better. You're eating without not fast food. Yeah. Okay. Still works. Yeah. I
7:30Speaker 2mean, it's, I think that, you know, we've gone over, there's going to be some that aren't as important to do that, that you need to be fasted, like the healing peptides, blah, blah,
7:40Speaker 2But you know, peptides are not cheap. So if you're going to do them, do them well, you know, and you want to get the best for your buck. So again, if you're going to get the same effects with IGF-one,
7:51Speaker 2might as well do it faster dude and get the fat burning. Like again, who doesn't want to burn fat?
7:56Speaker 2You know I mean? Big bodybuilders burn fat.
8:00Speaker 2All right, but good question, man. That was a great 1. 44 year old female, 150
8:05Speaker 2pounds, five'nine athlete
8:07Speaker 2and gym girl
8:08Speaker 2in weights section, not cardio equipment. If you know what I mean, I eat protein, 130, 150,
8:15Speaker 2higher fat, moderate, low carb,
8:17Speaker 2had a baby at 42, good for you and still feeling not quite myself yet.
8:23Speaker 2I'm trying to figure out when did she have the baby, but anyways, looking to add muscle like bikini model build,
8:29Speaker 2have a great tone now, just a few squishy areas I want to firm up. So I'm
8:34Speaker 2close, just need some help. My current stack is Tessa,
8:38Speaker 21.5
8:39Speaker 2mg nightly, Reta
8:41Speaker 2micro dosing 1.5 mg weekly,
8:44Speaker 2GHKCU
8:45Speaker 22.5 mg and the GHKCU
8:48Speaker 2serum. Wolverine stack, Wolverine blend 1.5 to 2.5 mg,
8:53Speaker 23 to 4 times at night,
8:55Speaker 23 to 4 4 night,
8:57Speaker 2bought HGH,
8:59Speaker 220 vials,
9:00Speaker 2Tessa Ipah, and CJC Ipah.
9:03Speaker 2What should I do? Change my current dose,
9:07Speaker 2add HGH
9:09Speaker 2or switch to Tessa Ipamorelin.
9:11Speaker 2I tried CJC Ipamorelin. Wasn't as big a fan of it. Got the rash. Thanks for all you do. Love your products. Podcasts,
9:19Speaker 2the GHK-3Cu
9:20Speaker 2serum is awesome from my face. I'm Want to start there? Yeah, go ahead. Cause you have a little bit personal experience as part of that. I've been kind of ready
9:29Speaker 2for this to pop up because I knew it would.
9:32Speaker 2Man, so
9:33Speaker 2for the longest time I didn't run CJC just because I'd read if there was just, there's some of these secretive cogs, I run HGH and, just some of the negatives I've
9:43Speaker 2with the CJC. I just never had the huge interest
9:47Speaker 2in running it. And, I think I've talked about it on the podcast, but I did, I did it a few, maybe a month ago, 2 months ago, whatever it was.
9:55Speaker 2And I did good for about a week and then I injected it and I got an instant rash. I mean, it was it was so trippy that like it was so freaking instant that I was like, Woah.
10:05Speaker 2And I do it in my legs sometimes and it was like, rash.
10:09Speaker 2And I felt a little bit weird and I'm like, That was gnarly.
10:13Speaker 2So needless to say, I didn't do CJC anymore because
10:16Speaker 2for those that don't know, if you do it and you have that, it's probably going to be worse next time. Not every time, generally speaking. Yeah,
10:23Speaker 2generally. It's a histamine situation.
10:26Speaker 2So KPV does work. KPV is great.
10:30Speaker 2So to finish this off,
10:32Speaker 2my wife, you know, she's tiny and, we switched things around and she loves testing around blah, blah, blah. So I was going to try the CJC. I didn't think that she would have a reaction. I think it's not so common that I was that worried about it, to be honest with you. And I injected her just
10:50Speaker 210 units and, dude, she went to put my son to bed almost
10:55Speaker 2immediately. And she came out and her lips
10:57Speaker 2were so freaking swollen
10:59Speaker 2and she was completely red and she had this fear in her eyes. I think something's wrong. And I was like, Holy shit, woah.
11:06Speaker 2You know, that's my wife. I'm like, Woah, woah, woah, woah. And like, I'm like, Wow. So I had KPV. I gave her a shot at KPV that helped,
11:13Speaker 2but it was gnarly dude. I called Will. Was like, dude, bro, holy woah.
11:18Speaker 2So I won't really be doing CJC anymore.
11:22Speaker 2Mean, people love it. People love it. That's great. But then I think, I mean, you had the same thing. You had the rash. It seems to be way more common than even I was even expecting it to be. I mean, for me to get it and my wife to get it different bottle, wasn't the same bottle, widely
11:37Speaker 2separated from in regards to a couple of months or something from when we did it.
11:42Speaker 2Hey, anyways, I read negatives. There was a reason I didn't do it for a long time and, yeah.
11:48Speaker 2So there you go. Everybody,
11:50Speaker 2Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin wins in regards to the question there.
11:55Speaker 2Should you do the HGH now
11:57Speaker 2for women, my take on this might be different than Will, so let's dig into it. For women, a little bit goes a long way.
12:05Speaker 2Doing an
12:07Speaker 2HGH in the morning and the secretagogue at night, I'm going to tell you, I think that's going to be a little bit much for a woman. I just don't think women need that much. I would do either or. And I'm going to lean towards the HGH because it's actual, some somatropin in the morning. And I mean, a woman could get away, in my opinion, with 1 IU. I mean, I do too. You know, 1 IU would go a long way.
12:29Speaker 2So I would try that. You have it. So you bought it. So why don't you do that and kind of put the secretagogues on ice? Now you could do the Tessa Ip at night. Again, I think it's overkill for a woman. If you're a man, I think that would be great. I just think it's too much for a woman.
12:47Speaker 2Yeah, so that's what it meant. I would kick the CJC to the curb, man. I am not a fan and I would hate to see what happened to my wife happened to you. It sucked. It was scary.
12:56Speaker 2She was scared.
12:58Speaker 1That's where we're at. Yeah, that's scary. And it's going to get worse. Like it wouldn't. So basically Her lips were huge.
13:03Speaker 2Huge. I mean like huge. And she was flushed. She pulled up a shirt and she was just freaking fiery red. I was like, woah dude, that I was getting that. So if you do have that, so you all know,
13:15Speaker 2have some KPV that is an antihistamine. So
13:18Speaker 1like, and KPV,
13:20Speaker 1but like also
13:21Speaker 1an antihistamine,
13:23Speaker 1which we all know Benadryl
13:25Speaker 1stuff, stuff like that will also help. But if all you got is KPV,
13:29Speaker 1use the damn KPV. And
13:32Speaker 1it would generally like every single, every allergic histamine related reaction we have, it always gets worse every time. So
13:39Speaker 1you probably cannot, I would throw that away or find somebody who wants to use it. But you used it. So find a close friend.
13:47Speaker 1They're to get us there, Betty. So I do think that also we have talked about this before, but the quick lesson on
13:54Speaker 1running the secretagogues
13:56Speaker 1with HGH,
13:57Speaker 1with exogenous HGH, right? Basically the
14:01Speaker 1Tesamorelin,
14:02Speaker 1the actual, it activating your pituitary pituitary telling body to, Hey, let's make more HGH
14:08Speaker 1will
14:09Speaker 1get blunted.
14:11Speaker 1Okay. By, if you're taking exogenous HGH and you already have high levels,
14:16Speaker 1then that pituitary action might get blunted a little bit. And that new, the secretagog
14:21Speaker 1just may not do much for you. It may not really stimulate any more growth.
14:27Speaker 1The Ipamorelin
14:28Speaker 1portion of it will absolutely still enhance your growth pulses.
14:33Speaker 1So even when taking exogenous HGH,
14:36Speaker 1the IpA will still kind of enhance our regular pulses. Your body just won't be making more from the secretagog. It might be, but maybe it's negligible.
14:44Speaker 1But Tesamorelin has another property besides just
14:48Speaker 1telling pituitary to make more growth, and that is to target belly fat. True. And and
14:56Speaker 1what's our other adip what's our other kind of fat that's stuck to your internal organs that's really bad?
15:01Speaker 1Forgive
15:02Speaker 1visceral. Thank you for that. Thank you for the crowd.
15:06Speaker 1Tesamorelin will do that will also burn that. Okay? And that that effect will not be blunted. So
15:12Speaker 1but like JD said, I still think, like, the real deal, right, They're all HGH is probably best. And 1 I use probably all you need. What I would suggest
15:20Speaker 1instead of stacking even more growth hormone,
15:23Speaker 1know, producing,
15:26Speaker 1compounds on there, I would maybe take IGF-1LR3,
15:31Speaker 1which is not really a, it's, it's the byproduct, right? It's, it's basically the portion of when you do HGH,
15:37Speaker 1it basically makes your body metabolic or recovery, right? Recovery, meaning build more, build tissue and build muscles back. IGF-one is
15:46Speaker 1the end product of that that builds tissue. So it's probably your best muscle building.
15:51Speaker 1Compound, you don't really wanna do it for very long, but IGF-1LR-three
15:55Speaker 1might be a good thing. And, and it takes time. Like your body, a bikini body
15:59Speaker 1is doable at your age,
16:02Speaker 1but
16:03Speaker 1things just take time and consistency, consistency,
16:06Speaker 1and, and,
16:07Speaker 1you know, get a plan that is sustainable that you can keep long term, right? And long term by a year.
16:13Speaker 1And that's what I mean. I don't mean 20 years, but that's kind of how you'll slowly whittle away those squishy spots and turn them hard. Right? There's nothing for a woman
16:23Speaker 1where there's nothing really we can give you that whack overnight like steroids would do for a man. Yeah.
16:29Speaker 1They would do that for a man. You took enough stuff and you ate- Retta's
16:33Speaker 2close. But you're doing that. She could up the Retta too. We don't know what she's trying to weigh. She doesn't talk about her weight, but 1.5 is pretty low. I mean, assuming a microdose on Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
16:43Speaker 2probably 0.25
16:45Speaker 2of a mg. You could go up to a mg and just see if that helps. That would help a little bit, I think. True.
16:51Speaker 1True. That is true. I'm fairly low. Yeah. It's 1 burn fat. That's very low. So 1.5 mg a week. That's very low on Loretta.
17:00Speaker 1Feel free to go up a little bit. No. Alright. I'm reading. Number 3.
17:07Speaker 1Any idea if you will discuss
17:10Speaker 1Prostamax
17:11Speaker 1and
17:12Speaker 1the salute?
17:14Speaker 1I'm 49 and have an OAB overactive bladder. I've ordered
17:18Speaker 1both and waiting for delivery, but wanted to see what the experts have to say. I love the show.
17:25Speaker 1Do you I don't really like okay. Maybe
17:29Speaker 1maybe once we get a little bit more data and maybe, and have tried it and have, have some more experience,
17:35Speaker 1I think that we could do an episode on that, but now is not the time, but
17:41Speaker 1we will look into it.
17:43Speaker 2Yeah. It's not something that's really like, like something that's really, really crossed our path. I, you know, I'm 48, so I'll tell you my experience of that. I don't really run into that right now. I did during COVID,
17:54Speaker 2so maybe 20 20 give or take. I was like peeing like 6 times a night. It was horrible. And, I was just thinking there was something wrong with me. Finally, my wife said, you got to see a doctor. And at that time you couldn't see a doctor. So I had to wait. So I finally got on a zoom call with a doctor and
18:10Speaker 2I thought he was going to have some earth shattering
18:13Speaker 2advice
18:14Speaker 2because I was peeing 6 and 7 times a night and not sleeping well. Yeah. And,
18:19Speaker 2his advice was this, he said, How old are you? And I, you know, at the time, 44 or whatever it was. And he goes, and I said, and I'm a testosterone, you know, put it on the line. He goes, you're just getting old man. And that's really kind of where he left it. I said, I was kind of expecting a little bit more doc,
18:36Speaker 2but just more proof on why I'm not a huge fan of Western medicine. But my
18:41Speaker 2point on that story is I
18:44Speaker 2never really did a whole lot to fix it. I don't know what really rectified it. Don't run, I don't have that problem anymore.
18:50Speaker 2But I'm going to always on the side of, you know, Vesalud is a bioregulator, so it's not, you know, it's, it's, I think Prostomax,
18:59Speaker 2I think that's like an over counter. I don't know much about that, but that's a bioregular. I'm going to always on the side of trying that before a pharmaceutical.
19:07Speaker 2I just, pharmaceutical
19:08Speaker 2suck. I just am not a fan of them. I didn't take whatever that doctor prescribed me just because I'm not a fan of pharmaceuticals.
19:16Speaker 2And I got past it. So,
19:18Speaker 2again, I don't remember how, why and how it fixed itself, but I don't have the problem anymore. So
19:23Speaker 1I don't know. That's kind of vague, but-0.23: No, that's fine. I don't really have a great answer either for you, but I would say, so is there anything that you are taking
19:30Speaker 1that might
19:31Speaker 1swell your prostate?
19:34Speaker 1Okay. Are you taking any steroids?
19:36Speaker 1Like, are you taking testosterone? Are you taking
19:39Speaker 1Winstrel or,
19:41Speaker 1Masderon or,
19:42Speaker 1Primo?
19:43Speaker 1If I take Primo for like 2 weeks,
19:47Speaker 1it will like swell up my prostate every time. Interesting. Yeah.
19:51Speaker 1And are you just peeing a lot or do you have like a weak stream?
19:56Speaker 1Basically you gotta pee really bad. And then you're gonna pee and like,
19:59Speaker 1it just kind of, I mean, it comes out, but like not nearly equal
20:03Speaker 1to what you
20:04Speaker 1had to do. And then you feel it and then you're like, well, I guess I'm done.
20:07Speaker 1So 30 minutes later, you gotta go pee really bad and the same thing happens. Yeah.
20:12Speaker 1That is generally a swollen prostate and obviously, and it occurs from those substances because of DHT, right? Those are all DHT derivative compounds, and therefore they're going to raise the hell out of your DHT
20:25Speaker 1And do fast, right, finesse
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20:51Speaker 1Thread are the, like,
20:54Speaker 1pharmaceutical
20:55Speaker 1drugs that Brutal. That will fix those. But side effects on those things suck. Horrible. It's the same thing that they we talked about, like, for me taking,
21:05Speaker 1to combat
21:07Speaker 1hair loss.
21:09Speaker 2So sex drive sex drive,
21:12Speaker 1like I really feel those things. I disliked
21:15Speaker 1them, but the good thing is whenever I, in the past, if I have felt to that, I take literally 1 pill for 1 day, 2 days, and it fixes the problem for a year or until I'm dummy again, try to do like pretty much,
21:28Speaker 1but it fixes them immediately. I did the 1st time I ever took them, you know, I took it for like a week straight and like, yeah, killed this, killed my sex drive, but also just made it like,
21:38Speaker 1it made me almost just depressed.
21:41Speaker 1Like brain's like, don't
21:43Speaker 1care about much, you know, no happiness,
21:46Speaker 1no motivation.
21:49Speaker 1Sucks. Nobody wants to feel like that. Nope. Unless you're making yourself rather P 6 times the week, the same night than feel like that. So I don't know. I'd look into it.
21:58Speaker 1Sometimes it's just an estrogen hormonal imbalance,
22:02Speaker 1but I would
22:03Speaker 1I'll guess with JD too, like, man, you ordered them, take them.
22:09Speaker 1I do
22:10Speaker 1not have any direct
22:12Speaker 1experience with them either of those. So,
22:15Speaker 1and don't have much anecdotal like experience than anybody else. So I don't want to give you any answers I don't know about. Okay.
22:23Speaker 2All right. Why is this so, this is a good 1. So why are there so
22:26Speaker 2much different information around Tesamorelin
22:29Speaker 2meaning why it gels up,
22:31Speaker 2has to be used in 3 days, in the fridge, don't put in the fridge, keep room temperature
22:37Speaker 2in the dark,
22:39Speaker 2mix it room temperature, mix it cold,
22:41Speaker 2etcetera, etcetera. Great question. You want to take that 1? Cause I know we've discussed it. It's very interesting.
22:46Speaker 1Yeah.
22:47Speaker 1Okay. So Tesamorelin
22:49Speaker 1is that,
22:52Speaker 1is 1 of these kind of like,
22:54Speaker 1well, all peptides are fragile, right? They're like living,
22:57Speaker 1living, but like amino acid chains that are really fragile. So all of them, this is why whenever you mix water in there, you don't want to blast the water in. You don't want to shake the thing. So Tesamorelin
23:06Speaker 1seems to be
23:08Speaker 1ultra sensitive.
23:09Speaker 1Okay.
23:10Speaker 1And it gels up. We knew a lot of people that were mixing like really cold water in and then getting it in and it was gelling up even, even putting as you're putting your water in just too fast.
23:21Speaker 1Right? So you really,
23:24Speaker 1it will make it gel up. It doesn't mean it's bad Tesamorelin.
23:27Speaker 1Just is it's because that is the compound. The higher the dose Tesamorelin, the easier it's going to do that usually because like a 20 mg is still coming in a 3 mil bottle.
23:36Speaker 1It's a max amount of water you can put in it.
23:39Speaker 1Therefore it'll jelly even easier.
23:41Speaker 1But so here's a suggestion. Now the 3 days, like mix it and use it all in 3 days.
23:47Speaker 1There's no evidence.
23:49Speaker 1There's no evidence I've come across that that's true. Even from the actual prescription manufacturer,
23:54Speaker 1it's like EGRIFTA or something like that,
23:57Speaker 1that makes it,
23:59Speaker 1they don't even say that.
24:01Speaker 1It, that may just be some, I don't know. Well, that's manufacturer Yeah.
24:07Speaker 1Or even right.
24:08Speaker 1Rumor from manufacturers.
24:10Speaker 1So people buy their stuff more often and use it faster than buy more.
24:14Speaker 1But here is the strategy.
24:16Speaker 1It will so
24:18Speaker 1really we'll also realize so 1st of all, mix room temp water.
24:22Speaker 1Okay. Then the Tesamorelin, if you want to store it in a cool,
24:27Speaker 1cool,
24:28Speaker 1not cold,
24:29Speaker 1not really cold and
24:31Speaker 1dark and dry place,
24:33Speaker 1that will be just fine. Okay.
24:35Speaker 1It'll it'll work and it will stay that way. The problem occurs when people put really cold water in. Right. Or they even put room temp water, put it back in their fridge and their fridge is like 1 of the people who keeps their fridge really, really cold.
24:48Speaker 1That's the, that is gonna be the problem. So if you can keep your fridge maybe a little bit normal, warmer than a normal recommended fridge, it'll be okay to put in there. Yeah.
24:58Speaker 1Likewise,
24:59Speaker 1or in a cool,
25:01Speaker 1mean, I probably not even up to 70 degrees, 65 degrees or so dark,
25:06Speaker 1dry cabinet.
25:08Speaker 2That's okay. That's also okay. But put room temp water in. That's new. I mean, that's, we've come a long way from that. I mean, we continue to grow and learn and we wouldn't have said that. I mean, we, in the beginning, I mean, if you looked at some of the stuff, like some of the podcasts a year ago,
25:21Speaker 2were injecting
25:22Speaker 2cold water because at the time that's what we thought we'd read that.
25:26Speaker 2Yeah,
25:27Speaker 1like anything cold water into the box. Yeah. Yeah. But now I keep my water out in room temperature. Yep. Kept in the freezer a little because there's lots of experience, but also it's because, you know, back way back when the new peptides are coming out all the time. When we started,
25:41Speaker 1there weren't that many peptides and the ones that were out
25:45Speaker 1were ones that weren't very fragile. Yeah, it's true. Right? And so then the new stuff comes out and they have other complications
25:52Speaker 2and they're delicate. Yeah, it's funny. I mean, Tesamorelin
25:55Speaker 2is definitely like an AOD. Those 2 gel up pretty commonly. I've just never had that problem with Tesamorelin. AOD I have, but not ever since we've been using acetate water in it.
26:06Speaker 2But yeah, don't know. A lot of people do. I've never had it. Yeah.
26:09Speaker 2And I guess just use it like everything else.
26:13Speaker 1If you're gonna do Tesamorelin,
26:14Speaker 1like don't also just don't let it be sitting mixed. Don't miss your doses. Leave it out a little bit. It'll Yeah, it might it might ungel. I often see people will send me like videos like, look, and it, you can tell that it's just halfway frozen.
26:28Speaker 1Warm it like you tell it's like about to turn into ice, which I think will basically ruin it also if it actually gets frozen.
26:36Speaker 1But use it. Okay. A 10 mg
26:40Speaker 1Tesamorelin
26:41Speaker 1generally, I think people should start at maybe 500 micrograms,
26:44Speaker 1test their tolerance, and then be, then bump up to 1000
26:48Speaker 1micrograms
26:49Speaker 1daily.
26:50Speaker 1So that would mean that the 1000 micrograms, a 10 mg bottle will last you 10 days.
26:56Speaker 1It'll be just, it'll be good for those 10 days. I promise you as long as it doesn't
27:01Speaker 1gel up. The same thing for 20 mg, 20 days,
27:05Speaker 1it'll be good for those 20 days as
27:07Speaker 2long as you don't allow it to gel up. And again, do not squirt the water on there very hard like a lot of people do. Yep. None of the pepatides. Don't do that. If you're gonna coach it,
27:19Speaker 1coach it to the side of the thing and just be like Yeah. Yeah. Let's put the needle in and then bend it, do this, and shoot it on the sidewall. Yeah. Let it go in. And if it's and it's really vacuumed, right, just kind of impede the plunger from just blasting the water in. You know? Depends on how big if you happen to use in, a 3 mil
27:37Speaker 2syringe, that water will go in fast if you let it. So don't let it. Okay, next. Cool. Alright. So, hey guys, huge fan and all in the peptide game with you both. I'm 38 year old man
27:49Speaker 2aiming for a body recomb, lifting weights
27:52Speaker 24 days a week at least and eating a high protein,
27:55Speaker 2tight diet. 6 weeks in to CJC Ipamorelin,
28:02Speaker 22 Migs recently increased AOD,
28:04Speaker 2500 micrograms,
28:06Speaker 2Retta, 8 Migs just increased with CLO NAD
28:10Speaker 2and MOTS-C. My question is, when I am done with my 12 to
28:16Speaker 216 week cycle of GHRP
28:18Speaker 2and GHK-six,
28:20Speaker 2I want to keep up with the momentum. What are your thoughts on cycling on HGH
28:26Speaker 2HGH
28:27Speaker 21 to 2 IU per day during my rest period of peptides?
28:31Speaker 2Easy math. Yes, do it. You should be doing that anyway.
28:35Speaker 2Yeah.
28:36Speaker 238,
28:37Speaker 138.
28:38Speaker 2I would say just, you're obviously somebody that's
28:43Speaker 2into peptides as we are. You're 38,
28:46Speaker 2know, TRT and HGH. We've said it numerous times. I mean, that's a staple for me.
28:51Speaker 21 to 2 IU,
28:53Speaker 2you can run that, not necessarily in perpetuity, but maybe
28:57Speaker 2I plan to run it in very long periods and that'll just help you to
29:02Speaker 2lay your base and then you can add in secretagogues.
29:05Speaker 2Think, did you say CJC and Tesa? I wouldn't run those 2 together. I would run either or.
29:11Speaker 2And then the HGH in the morning, but the answer, my answer is very easy. Yes, do that. Dude, I don't know. I think that,
29:19Speaker 1you know, okay.
29:21Speaker 1Exogenous HGH like take there's like a ramp up period. Okay. It doesn't,
29:26Speaker 1we always say it's a, it's a long term play. Okay.
29:30Speaker 1I don't think frankly, it's a very good idea for you to do to like get on security dogs and pull out the HGH.
29:37Speaker 1So then now you're on security dogs
29:40Speaker 1for 12 weeks. And then as soon as you stop those at HGH in for, for 8 weeks and then pull that and then go back to security. That how you read that? I didn't read it like that. If
29:50Speaker 2he's just going do that for 8 weeks, if that's the case, then don't do that because it's not an 8 week play ms at The
29:56Speaker 2secretagogue sure.
29:58Speaker 1HGH is not an 8 week play. It's a lot longer. Yeah. It's a lot, it's a lot longer that that is pointless. And you're really just kind of, you're, you're not,
30:06Speaker 1I don't know. You're not me. You're really kind of throwing off your body's like pulsatile
30:10Speaker 1function,
30:11Speaker 1how it normally produces HGH. I would
30:14Speaker 1stick with either 1 or the other. Frankly, I would go either, Hey, just,
30:19Speaker 1can, you can keep running the security guards and maybe switch between like, Hey, go see if you're good with CJC, 1st of all, right? CJC Ipamorelin for 12 weeks and then go Tessa Ipamorelin for 12 weeks.
30:30Speaker 1That keeps your body's, you know, pulsing and that keeps a normal rhythm sustainable rhythm to it.
30:38Speaker 1Or
30:40Speaker 1just do the HGH that whole time. Okay? You could also add just Ipamorelin
30:45Speaker 1on top of just the HGH.
30:48Speaker 1Because again,
30:50Speaker 1the worry is that these secretagogues,
30:53Speaker 1if you run HGH,
30:54Speaker 1okay,
30:55Speaker 1and now a secretagogue on top, that secretagogue on top ain't gonna be doing much because the HGH is blunting
31:02Speaker 1that pituitary response. So it's just not gonna be really making more of its own growth.
31:07Speaker 1And I don't know anything just, just like, just like a bodybuilder bulks and
31:13Speaker 1cuts and bulks you like that, that is not good for a human body.
31:17Speaker 1With growth, we kind of wanna get it into a good rhythm and, and that's why HGH is a long play. Right? We want to get into a rhythm, doing the same thing and getting better and better ramping that up as opposed to just switching the way that the body makes it and receives it. It's confusing.
31:34Speaker 1So me, I don't know, despite how the question was asked, hopefully that gave an answer that you can apply. Yeah, that was good. Alright.
31:43Speaker 16.
31:44Speaker 1So my current stack is Reta 3 Migs
31:46Speaker 1once week 1, once weekly
31:49Speaker 1morning fasted 2 mg Tessa, once nightly
31:54Speaker 1fasted 2 50 micrograms of IpA once nightly fasted.
31:58Speaker 1I'm not sure there's no punctuation, so I don't know which goes with which, but fasted 1 mg Wolverine blend.
32:05Speaker 1500 mgs BPC
32:07Speaker 1and TB-five hundred nightly, fasted 2 mg GHK
32:11Speaker 1CU nightly fasted.
32:13Speaker 1That's it, maybe. 100 micrograms
32:15Speaker 1B12 morning fasted started
32:19Speaker 1at 365,
32:20Speaker 112 16,
32:23Speaker 1started at 365.
32:25Speaker 1I think that's a weight pounds. Okay. On December 16, currently 3 38
32:31Speaker 1on February 14. Yeah. K. Good job.
32:36Speaker 1Resistance slash cardio 3 days a week.
32:39Speaker 1BBJ
32:40Speaker 1BBJ
32:41Speaker 1Muay Thai 3 days a week, 1,500 calorie
32:45Speaker 1intake daily,
32:47Speaker 1and typically around 125
32:49Speaker 1grams of protein and carbs, 50 grams of fat, feel amazing. Any suggestions and anything else to help with body recomp
32:55Speaker 1or cellular help? Any chances you guys would recommend?
32:58Speaker 1Any changes you guys would recommend?
33:01Speaker 1Why don't you start since I was
33:03Speaker 2studying through The 1st thing, and this
33:07Speaker 2is just, I don't know. I mean, 100 calories is pretty low.
33:11Speaker 2You're a big guy. Now you're trying to lose weight obviously, and that's great. I'm going to always tell you, I think you should do some
33:45Speaker 2And then on the weekends eat. I do that a lot and it's worked out great. I think that will help you.
33:50Speaker 2You're saying you're at your
33:54Speaker 2weight is 3 38 and you were eating 125
33:56Speaker 2grams. Would up the protein
33:59Speaker 2for sure. Eat more protein. I you're not eating enough, dude, to be honest with you. You're a big guy.
34:04Speaker 2And I know that's kind of a mind F to a lot of people. They think we're not supposed to eat, but you got to keep in mind that you got to keep your metabolism going. And if you're eating too much, it sometimes does the opposite of what you want it to do. So
34:18Speaker 2I would throw in some fasting and eat a little bit more when you eat.
34:22Speaker 1Okay, cool. I agree.
34:25Speaker 2Were you thinking that too?
34:27Speaker 11,500 is a little bit low,
34:29Speaker 1but here's the deal. Do not make a drastic increase on that immediately.
34:34Speaker 1If you are, if your body is used to eating 1,500 calories, if we say you should be eating more than you go up to 3,000,
34:41Speaker 1it's not going to be good. But like, so, but what I would do is start
34:45Speaker 1slowly increasing that number. And let's increase it by protein. You know what I'm saying? Like rats get more calories
34:53Speaker 1via protein, please. You're
34:56Speaker 1a big dude. So my general, I guess if you want if a person wanted to gain the most amount of muscle possible, okay, I think that
35:05Speaker 11.5 g of protein per pound of body weight
35:10Speaker 1is about what we can take in. Also, every time you eat, it takes about 2 hours for protein to
35:17Speaker 1and depending on your size, 40 to 50 grams of protein per serving, then it takes 2 hours for your body to actually digest and use that, shove it to your muscles. So like in a perfect world,
35:28Speaker 1taking and you're a big dude. So let's go with 50 grams per meal, 50 g of protein. I want an
35:34Speaker 1injection of 50 of protein every 2 hours,
35:37Speaker 120 fourseven.
35:38Speaker 1That way that's not real. We're not really actually injecting protein, but
35:44Speaker 1then you will gain the absolute most amount of muscle. Okay. And I know you're saying, Hey, I'm trying to lose weight, but like promise me, promise you like lifting weights and gaining muscle is,
35:55Speaker 1is going to make you burn fat and lose fat so much faster. Okay? Just the recovery time that your muscles are sore because you train them. That's the only way to build muscle is by working them out to soreness. Your body's burning a shit ton more calories.
36:09Speaker 1Just recovering plus every pound of muscle we had, metabolism
36:13Speaker 1speeds up by 50 calories a day. Okay?
36:17Speaker 1And that stuff adds up over time. So
36:20Speaker 1I would try to increase the caloric amount plus your your your your body burns
36:25Speaker 1pretty damn equal to the amount of calories you take in once it gets used to that. So
36:31Speaker 1you're just kind of killing your metabolism by eating a low amount of calories,
36:35Speaker 1whether you think so or not. It's about the macros of those calories. It's the most important. Always, I frankly just don't think calories should ever factor into anything. I don't care about calories.
36:46Speaker 1What we care about is macros. Right? I care about
36:49Speaker 1protein, fat, and carbs. Don't give a shit. Right? If you're eating 1,500,
36:54Speaker 11,500 calories and it comes from Twinkies,
36:56Speaker 1right? Or 1,500 calories and it comes from steak. There's a massive
37:00Speaker 1difference. I know there's some people's philosophies. Calories in Like that's been around for a long time. And I'll say calories in calories out makes you lose weight, but it's like, what kind of weight do you want to lose?
37:10Speaker 2Like if you're 1,500
37:12Speaker 2calories of donuts compared to 1,500 calories of like chicken and vegetables, very different. It's a night and day difference. So 1st of all, there's that 2nd.
37:21Speaker 1Let's
37:21Speaker 1that's great. It sounds like your exercise is really good.
37:25Speaker 1Is your sleep good?
37:27Speaker 1Sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep, deep sleep, right? DSIP for deep sleep will help.
37:32Speaker 1Dihexa even.
37:35Speaker 1Then you
37:37Speaker 1basically
37:38Speaker 1just know like you're going to be, this is a journey, right? You've kicked ass already from December to February. Okay.
37:45Speaker 1You've lost 20,
37:46Speaker 125, 27 pounds. That's really good. Okay.
37:50Speaker 1But this is going to be long term. Like it sure sounds like you are well on your way to making a good lasting life change, but
37:57Speaker 1results are going to be, mean, it's going to be kind of fun for you though, because you're going to see fast results, right? It starts to get really hard towards the end
38:05Speaker 1as you just need to lose a little bit more, right? So you're doing the right thing by not just
38:10Speaker 1losing 50 pounds in a month. Although you're on that, you're on that track since you lost 25 pounds and oh no, no, not in 2 weeks,
38:18Speaker 1in 2 months. So you're actually doing, you're doing this at a really healthy rate even
38:22Speaker 1based on that starting at $3.65.
38:24Speaker 1So like, yeah, you should be losing weight pretty fast at the beginning doing all these things right.
38:29Speaker 1So
38:30Speaker 1I just hate to,
38:33Speaker 1I just really want you to get into a rhythm of general health. Mitochondro, I'd still may MOTS-thirty
38:40Speaker 11. To get to 3 65
38:43Speaker 1pounds, you probably
38:44Speaker 1had to not be living the most healthy life. Okay? Therefore,
38:48Speaker 1my guess is your mitochondrial health, internal health, insulin sensitivity
38:53Speaker 1is not very good.
38:55Speaker 1So I think it would actually benefit you a lot. Maybe try to add in MOTS-three
39:00Speaker 11,
39:01Speaker 1which helps you give us more energy in your mitochondria. SS-thirty 1 basically makes that mitochondria a lot more efficient and healthy so it can use all of that energy.
39:09Speaker 1You might want to try that, see if you notice a difference, but you're feeling great, bro. Just
39:13Speaker 1stay the course, dude. Go with it. What is working and getting you results? Okay. Until you plateau,
39:19Speaker 1that is when it's time to switch everything up. Yep. Okay. So as long as you are losing weight at this rate,
39:27Speaker 21 thing that I don't think that we would
39:29Speaker 2probably won't when I say that you're going to catch it too. So why don't you try to do the microdose? You do it 3 mgs of Retta once a week. I know that's a lot of people think that that's the way to do it. We will say a little bit differently. Why don't you try? Why don't you try to do a MEG Monday, Wednesday, and Friday? You're a big dude too. You can go up on the Retta. I mean, that's a pretty low dose for a guy that you're is your side, so you could go up if you want.
39:53Speaker 2But
39:53Speaker 2either way, even if you stay at the 3 megs,
39:56Speaker 2do a make Monday, Wednesday, Friday, we have just found that it works better.
40:02Speaker 2Just try it.
40:03Speaker 2You can always go back. Absolutely.
40:06Speaker 1But dude, I don't know. Keep kicking ass. Like, let us know how it goes and ask us when you do plateau out.
40:12Speaker 1Cool. Write in, tell us, tell us what's up. Tell us what's next. All right. Go ahead. All right. Does Retatrutide
40:20Speaker 2have any effect on birth control as far as losing weight or effectiveness
40:26Speaker 2on the pill? And that was a good question. I've never heard that. Great question. Well, 1st of all,
40:32Speaker 1there's a lot of like secondary effects that potentially could have like, right going through big hormonal changes, like losing a whole bunch of weight while being pregnant
40:40Speaker 1is probably
40:41Speaker 1not a great idea.
40:44Speaker 1Plus, it's slowing the gastric emptying. It's basically just really, really slowing down
40:49Speaker 1food going through your intestines and your stomach.
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41:16Speaker 1How do we how does a baby eat?
41:18Speaker 1It eats the food that you eat, right, and feeds the baby,
41:23Speaker 1so
41:24Speaker 1I would not pick that the time to starve myself. And when I just starve myself, I'm just talking about just general and GLP-1s. People just eat, start eating less food. Okay, even on Retta, because it makes you not eat as much during each sitting. So
41:38Speaker 1I wouldn't do, I wouldn't do Retta just because of the secondary effects. I don't think I actually write read up on this. I don't think there's any
41:45Speaker 1like direct effect,
41:47Speaker 1like something in Retta is really like gonna harm the baby, but
41:53Speaker 1those secondary effects, you know, keep your babies when we get fat while they're pregnant for a reason, dude, because you need to eat. You're eating for 2. Sorry. You just gotta I'd error on the more nutrients to give that baby.
42:05Speaker 1Also, we do know if we're talking like pre,
42:09Speaker 1if you're trying to get pregnant,
42:12Speaker 1you know, women who are doing bodybuilding shows, you get down, women get down to below like 17%
42:16Speaker 1and they stop having their period. Because
42:20Speaker 1God goes, yeah, you don't eat enough food for 2. So you don't have enough fat on you for 2 people, so you shouldn't be having a baby.
42:29Speaker 1So I wouldn't you're not gonna wanna do that and put yourself in that
42:33Speaker 1Yeah.
42:35Speaker 1She's pregnant
42:37Speaker 2though. That's what she's trying to do because birth control, is it affecting like, I think what she's trying to get out is if she's on the pill
42:44Speaker 2is taking Retrutide
42:46Speaker 2going to basically dilute it and my understanding is it can, I don't think it will?
42:52Speaker 2It can
42:53Speaker 2just by like slowing down the absorption of
42:56Speaker 2the pill.
42:59Speaker 2My
43:01Speaker 2somewhat guesstimation for just logic is I don't think I think you'd be fine. Yeah. I think you'd be good.
43:08Speaker 1Fertility will increase as you get as you get more estrogen, more fat, more estrogen, more estrogen,
43:13Speaker 2more fertility also. All right. Am I up? Yeah. Am I up? Yeah. Okay.
43:19Speaker 2Hi guys, as always, thank you for bringing such great information and insight to the world of peptides and wellness. 56 year old woman here, fit, active, and closing in on those last 5 pounds after the significant weight loss journey.
43:32Speaker 2Hoping to lose another 2 to 3% body fat, which is going to take some time. Question about using Ipamorelin without Tesamorelin
43:40Speaker 2or other GH secretagogues.
43:43Speaker 2I'm finishing up a 12 course of Tessa,
43:47Speaker 2AOD,
43:47Speaker 2GLOW, and ongoing RETA.
43:49Speaker 2I hadn't tried Ipamorelin before because I was concerned about
43:54Speaker 2grilling ghrelin interfering with my recomp and weight loss goals, but your recent podcast made me think that the hunger pulls might be completely manageable and
44:04Speaker 2not contradict
44:05Speaker 2what the Red Eye is doing. So I'm interested, would it be worth trying Ipamorelin
44:09Speaker 2on its own alongside Retta with some sloop?
44:13Speaker 2Or
44:14Speaker 2should I wait 6 or 8 weeks until I start another round of Tesa? Thanks so much for your feedback. That was a great question. Yeah.
44:21Speaker 2I don't think that's in, I don't personally think that the hunger of Ipamorelin,
44:27Speaker 2I don't even notice it. I mean, I know that's some of the job of it, but
44:32Speaker 2you know, we've talked about comparing it to like a MK-six 77 and that will make you hungry. It will make you hungry.
44:40Speaker 2Ipamorelin,
44:41Speaker 2I've done countless times, I've never even noticed a difference in hunger at all. So,
44:47Speaker 2my answer to that is I think you're fine. I think you're good. I wouldn't even worry about that. You seem to be a pretty conscience gal anyway.
44:54Speaker 2So I would do that. And then
44:57Speaker 2it's a matter of an opinion.
44:59Speaker 2I think Tessa Ipamorelin together are great. Can you do Ipamorelin? Sure. I mean, I think Ipamorelin for a woman would go a really long way. I think you'll get a little bit of a tone,
45:08Speaker 2toneness, but why not do the Tesamorelin because it's going to burn that belly fat too.
45:12Speaker 2So I'm going to on the side of do the test of Ipamorelin. Why not?
45:17Speaker 2And don't worry about the hunger. You're going to be good. Yeah, I would agree. I don't think that the
45:23Speaker 1hunger caused by Ipamorelin is all that much And you're right because
45:27Speaker 1of the ghrelin receptor.
45:28Speaker 1I
45:29Speaker 1think it'll do more plus you're taking Retta. I would. So yes, I would say to answer the question directly,
45:35Speaker 1hell yeah, I would take Ipamorelin all by itself and SLU-3s. Okay.
45:39Speaker 1On top of those. And then if you want to wait for your another round of Tesa, then just add that Tesa back in. So you're doing Tessa and Ipam then at that point,
45:47Speaker 1you'll
45:48Speaker 1love it. On. And you know, you're 56 and you gotta lose that last pound of 5, 5 pounds, right? Like that takes discipline and good for you to get after it. But like, that's going to be hard. It is hard and it's going to take some discipline, right? Abs, abs and all this stuff made in the kitchen. So
46:06Speaker 1watch, you know, eat and be disciplined.
46:09Speaker 1Yeah. She's there. Can tell. Yep. Sleep. You're up. Sleep. All right. Hi, I'm 48 years old
46:16Speaker 1type 1 diabetic female and would love your thoughts on peptide use specifically for T1D individuals.
46:23Speaker 1Context, I'm five'seven, 126
46:25Speaker 1pounds and have lost 48 pounds 40 pounds
46:28Speaker 1using tirzepatide and ritatriptide.
46:31Speaker 1Currently running Reta 1 mg every 4 days,
46:35Speaker 1glow 5 days per week, AOD
46:38Speaker 19504,
46:40Speaker 15
46:42Speaker 1days per week. I recently finished the cycle with Tesla Ipi, and I absolutely loved how I felt on it. I'm feeling really good. Now focusing on building more lean muscle. I did deal with a bit of skinny fat early on after the weight loss. My question is, are there any peptides, stacks, or cycling considerations you found particularly helpful
47:00Speaker 1or things to be cautious with for people with type 1 diabetes?
47:04Speaker 1I'm currently working on
47:06Speaker 1calendaring it, calendaring a year long peptide cycling plan. Would love any high level guidance or principles to keep in mind for T1D specifically.
47:15Speaker 1You all for your education
47:17Speaker 1you put out. So
47:22Speaker 1I would
47:23Speaker 1not take regular
47:25Speaker 1HGH.
47:27Speaker 1Okay.
47:28Speaker 1That doesn't sound like you wanted to, but while you're taking any of these secreted gugs,
47:34Speaker 1I would keep getting your blood I mean, it's you're you're measuring your own blood, my guess is.
47:40Speaker 1So if you did great and you felt great with that,
47:45Speaker 1do on those that's kind of, I would say that that's
47:48Speaker 1the secretagogues
47:49Speaker 1are the biggest worry on
47:52Speaker 1anybody who
47:54Speaker 1has insulin issues or diabetes.
47:58Speaker 1Gosh, I don't know. I don't really have much more like you're doing.
48:02Speaker 2I mean, you could take out the secretagogues
48:04Speaker 2and just go with AOD,
48:06Speaker 2you know? Yeah. Absolutely.
48:08Speaker 2Just take it to see your drugs and not even mess with it. We're going to, Will and I just known a long time, so I know I can speak here when I say that we're always going to air on the side of caution. Like, why not? You have so many dang
48:19Speaker 2peptides
48:20Speaker 2out there that are rad. So like throwing SLU-0.0, throw an AOD, take out the secretagogue and just be safe. I think you're going to get equally as much out of it.
48:28Speaker 2What do you think? Yeah, I think so. I mean, just kick the kick the secretive
48:32Speaker 2goggles through the curve, man. AOD is amazing. 5 amino-1MQ
48:36Speaker 2is amazing. SLU-3P-thirty
48:38Speaker 22, amazing. Those are 3 compounds that are not secretive goggles and they are awesome.
48:43Speaker 2So I would do that.
48:44Speaker 1Yeah. I think that everything else, all of the, if you want to do
48:48Speaker 1the fat burner, AOD is great.
48:51Speaker 15 m 1 MQ is just fine with type 1 diabetes.
48:55Speaker 1Sloop is just fine.
48:57Speaker 2Stack them too. I mean, if you're trying to like lose weight and, you know, burn fat, I mean, you can stack those. They go really well together.
49:06Speaker 2And again, just be safe. Worried about that. Just, you know, it is a great worry.
49:11Speaker 1Why mess with it? Growth hormone, the growth hormone
49:15Speaker 1products
49:16Speaker 1are the worst 1, are the ones that you need to worry about. Frankly, everything else is either
49:21Speaker 1a non factor or is helpful.
49:24Speaker 2Okay. So
49:26Speaker 1that's, that's all I got, but I don't mean to, yeah, just keep doing what is it? Being consistent.
49:34Speaker 1Right. You're up reading. Am I taking this home? Yes. All right.
49:39Speaker 2Hey guys, I love the podcast. Thanks for putting so much knowledge out there. I have a few questions and
49:44Speaker 2would appreciate any guidance when you get a chance.
49:47Speaker 2I'm 35 year old female who strength trains regularly,
49:51Speaker 2tracks my diet closely.
49:53Speaker 2Like many of us, I am chasing the dream of getting lean while maintaining muscle.
49:58Speaker 2Don't worry, I have my Retta already
50:01Speaker 2in order after all you guys have to say about it. I previously ran IpocJC,
50:06Speaker 2very popular compound, right?
50:09Speaker 2And love the results, especially this sleep. During my 1st cycle, I developed a well, red welts. Here we go again at
50:16Speaker 2the injection site that
50:18Speaker 2lasted a few days, but I pushed through it On my 2nd cycle,
50:22Speaker 2about 2 weeks, I started getting full body hives.
50:26Speaker 2The hives resolved
50:28Speaker 2within 2 to 3 days of stopping Ipamorelin. I've
50:31Speaker 2since switched to Tesamorelin,
50:33Speaker 2but I'm not seeing the results as impressive as I did of the Ipamorelin.
50:38Speaker 2It's because CJC is just more stronger.
50:40Speaker 2I remember it being a mentioned that KPV may help reduce allergic reactions. It will though at the time I broke into hives,
50:50Speaker 2I was also taking Clo.
50:52Speaker 2I'm not sure if the reaction was from Ipah, CJC or combination,
50:57Speaker 2so I'm hesitant to retry without guidance.
51:00Speaker 2Is there any alternative you'd recommend stacking with Tesamorelin instead?
51:05Speaker 2After listening to the podcast,
51:07Speaker 2I started MOTS- C huge game changer for energy and focus. I run it with NAD plus which I like, but MOTS-1C really stands out for me. I'm considering adding SS-thirty 1 as well. What protocol would you recommend with running NAD MOTS-1C
51:24Speaker 2and SS-thirty 1 together? Question mark,
51:27Speaker 2should they be stacked on the same days or staggered?
51:30Speaker 2Great question, All
51:32Speaker 2right. I can give you some answers on this 1. So, A, so you got a reaction twice to C2, CJC and Ipamorelin. All right. Well, that was the CJC Ipamorelin. My guess is the reaction was to the CJC,
51:46Speaker 2by the way,
51:48Speaker 1twice. So don't do that 0.333 time. Right? But you also got a reaction to Clo.
51:54Speaker 1Or was it Glow? I think that she was saying that the Clo-
51:59Speaker 2Because she was saying it had KPV, so maybe she was saying that that helped. Well,
52:03Speaker 1it may help reduce allergic reactions,
52:05Speaker 1though at the time I broke into hives and I was also taking Clo. Well, okay. So KPV,
52:10Speaker 1so 1st of all, KPV
52:12Speaker 1is helpful for your gut and helps with your immune
52:16Speaker 1system. It is not
52:20Speaker 1a straight up antihistamine.
52:24Speaker 1Like a So Benadryl
52:25Speaker 1is the thing that is going to help the, the, the reactions.
52:29Speaker 1Okay. Clo.
52:31Speaker 1It might help. It's worth a try. And
52:34Speaker 1it could help, but
52:36Speaker 1it's all you got.
52:38Speaker 1But Benadryl is like the guarantee we will fix it. Now. I still think that the reaction is probably not safe for you to go, well, screw it. I'll just take CJC, Ipam and a Benadryl every time. Not a good idea.
52:49Speaker 1Now if you did happen to react, so therefore the KPV and CLO may just not, you still had a reaction. The KPV wasn't strong enough in there. Or,
52:58Speaker 1Hey, sometimes people are,
53:01Speaker 1can be allergic to the binder fillers that are put in these peptides when you do make a blend. Okay. So they have to put something different,
53:10Speaker 1in there when they actually blend a couple peptides together.
53:13Speaker 1And I know some of those, I read a big long article about an employee for a lab, like literally couldn't, she couldn't hang out with her friends
53:21Speaker 1if they wore the lab coat, which touched their regular clothes,
53:25Speaker 1like 16 hours later, if they were making any blended pipettes. So she was that allergic to that binding that binding chemical. That's crazy. Yeah. Like it was like bad. Like she almost died the 1st time that she was in there when they started doing it.
53:38Speaker 1So some people can be allergic to the
53:41Speaker 1actual blends.
53:44Speaker 1You taking Tesas, you said, Hey, I didn't have a great, didn't really notice much. Well, it could be, I don't know what you were taking for dose timing,
53:53Speaker 1you know,
53:54Speaker 1fasted or not fasted.
53:56Speaker 1Also you weren't taking Ipamorelin.
53:58Speaker 1I don't think CJC is the culprit usually. Okay. Not Ipamorelin.
54:01Speaker 1Just happen to have always have CJC blended with Ipamorelin.
54:05Speaker 1I would still give Tessa Ipamorelin a fighting shot. Yeah. Now I might also have a bottle of Benadryl next to you.
54:13Speaker 1In case you were allergic to that too,
54:16Speaker 1that blend. But
54:18Speaker 1kick ass, go with I mean, I'm glad to hear that the MOTS-3C and NAD is really a game changer. So you asked here, I can't answer this direct question. Here's what I would do on the protocol
54:28Speaker 1with the MOTS C SS-thirty 1. I like doing 1 mg of MOTS C daily
54:36Speaker 1and then between 5
54:38Speaker 1to 10 or maybe even a 15 Migs
54:41Speaker 1daily
54:42Speaker 1of the SS-thirty 1. That's
54:45Speaker 1too high. But like I wouldn't do any less than 5 mg of SS-thirty 1. Sorry. I just wouldn't.
54:50Speaker 1But so I do MOTS-1MIG
54:52Speaker 1and SS-thirty 1 at least 5 mgs daily.
54:55Speaker 1It doesn't matter. Daily timing of those 2
54:58Speaker 1doesn't really matter. Right? That's not really going to make a difference.
55:02Speaker 1Since you're already taking SS-thirty 1, I mean, you're already taking MOTS-thirty you might just add the SS-thirty 1 in. Yeah. Hell yeah. If you asked us, we've had this question before and we answered it in the, in discussed it. If you asked us, which should I, if I want to take SS-thirty 1 and MOTS-three,
55:17Speaker 1okay, I want to take them, but if there were 1 that I wanted to start 1st, like a month before I introduced the next, which would it be? And the answer,
55:26Speaker 1well, my answer is now that thinking about it is the SS-thirty 1 1st, because that is what is strengthening the integrity of the mitochondrial wall, right? So I don't care, you add MOTS-1MQ
55:38Speaker 1in and you don't have any good integrity of the mitochondrial wall. Great, it's pushing energy and that energy is just floating out in the universe and not doing anything. That's not helpful. So let's make the, the, the, like the housing unit very strong,
55:51Speaker 1then add the energy in and now it will really work and harness that energy correctly.
55:56Speaker 1So that was my answer. The NAD,
55:59Speaker 1frankly, I think 15 mgs a day. Yeah, daily.
56:03Speaker 2Daily. A lot of people do it like 3 times a week. Don't know. I do daily. Think so. So
56:08Speaker 2you can get away with 3 times a week. Depends on your objectives. I use it as a coffee type deal. So those
56:14Speaker 23 together though, you just nailed it are amazing.
56:17Speaker 1Are so light your mitochondria up baby. So you're rocking and rolling. Good job. Thank you guys, JD. Thank you for getting through this. It was a rough weekend at the Denham household
56:27Speaker 1with his wife and- A
56:29Speaker 2lot of stuff going on. So we got through. Having issues and yeah, so
56:34Speaker 1we are good to And
56:37Speaker 2then I called Will this morning. I'm like, coming in a little late today. I'm sleeping like shit, but we got through it. Always enjoy this either way. We love the Q and A and the next 1 we will be doing,
56:48Speaker 2pep out of the week. So that'll be next. Anything else? Yeah, I get to use my, I get to give you all some visual learnings. I'm excited. He sure does, man. But, we will catch you guys next round. Yep. Later.