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0:27Speaker 1I'm your host, JD Denham across the way looking dapper as always my buddy, William T. Hoss,
0:46Speaker 1I don't know, man, if you ever go through these little stages where just these moments of gratitude,
0:51Speaker 1you know what I mean? Just moments of gratitude. Like our lives pretty damn cool, man. And 1 of those moments this morning where, you know, going through, you know, I posted that reel of just where our company has come, where we've come from so quickly and just guys, 2 dudes that were
1:07Speaker 1addicted to drugs and where their life has come and like sometimes it's so good to just sit in a pile of,
1:20Speaker 1it almost didn't happen. I was thinking about it this morning, bro. Like, so we almost a year ago, we're up in Vegas. We were going up there for some business stuff, just trying to figure out what we were going to do some wholesale stuff. So we go up there and I think I was trying to talk Will and to sit down with me and doing,
1:37Speaker 1it wasn't a podcast. It wasn't, it was just a 10 minute thing on, I was going to put on YouTube about- PBC.
1:51Speaker 110 years, 10 months ago. 10 months. So that's how fast this has grown to the fact that we're sitting in our own podcast studio that we've built
1:59Speaker 23 hard work and just man, it's And freaking by no means, was it like, did we start going, let's make a podcast? It was like, no, no, no, Not even close. Hey, just let's put a little bit of
2:18Speaker 1this. No, that's crazy how things just kind of just fall into place, man. And now like, again, also, you know, 1 thing that if people don't know, which probably a lot of people don't.
2:30Speaker 1he is kind of the brains, if you will. He does the backend, he does the computer stuff. He does the systems.
2:37Speaker 1He's that guy. I am more of the social media guy. He doesn't get to see as much of the social media stuff as I do now. There's something cool and I have a cool comment, I send it to him so you guys all know.
2:48Speaker 1But, yeah, man, it was like, we get to read through some of your comments and just the people that are just appreciative of what we do. And it's funny because it's, we're 2 dudes that just talked like this when we weren't on a podcast. Like we would just be talking about compounds. Hey bro, did you check this out? Or have you heard about this? And that's all we do on a podcast now, and it's like, dude, life is good, dude. Yeah. Yeah. I agree, man. It's an amazing switch from
3:13Speaker 2from just being miserable. I guess, you know, before in the past life 10 years ago, right, I had 2 emotions of excited
3:20Speaker 2and depressed, right? That's it. And so it is priceless to wake up or sit back and just, and feel content.
3:33Speaker 1peaks and valleys. Sometimes I'm like working through because like, I don't want you happy. It doesn't want you to enjoy whatever the dark side, the devil, I don't care what you call it. It's just, it doesn't want you content.
3:44Speaker 2Right. I think it's human nature and that's what, how we ensure progress. Sure. Yeah. I think that's almost God's way of ensuring the survival of our species is making us never
3:54Speaker 2feel content and always need more. And because that is the truth, right? If we were always just content, we would still be animals. Right.
4:01Speaker 1But, yeah. So if you're content, you're sitting there. So you're just not doing a whole lot. We're supposed to grow. We're supposed to evolve. We're supposed to be debtor. We're supposed to do more. And like the people, and I'm not talking about bank accounts. Everybody wants bank accounts to grow. That's the opposite, but it's more of like
4:16Speaker 1you're content more when you're helping other people, you're content more when you're doing something cool or like getting out of your comfort, comfortable little box of like normal where you're, you know, comfort is the enemy of progress. So if you're like comfortable, you're doing it wrong. There's no growth in comfort.
4:31Speaker 1You grow when you're like, dude, I don't want to do this. I'll get perfect example of this as well, did not want to do this. You're just not, you're not a face of like, you don't, he's not on social media. No, He never has been. So for him to sit down and do this was a lot. You were very uncomfortable. You go back at some of the 1st ones, you're like trying to look straight because that's just not your gig, dude. But like, that's where the growth is, man. That is true. So I was thinking about this morning, man. It was pretty damn cool to be like, man, life is cool, dude. But what gonna do? Grow what are gonna do? Mean,
5:00Speaker 2yeah, you just got to do uncomfortable things, right? Like if ever I feel myself like, man, I'm unhappy or,
5:07Speaker 2feeling stagnant, suppose is the obvious answer is like do some that scares me, like do something that is out of my comfort zone. Like people want to know how do I build self esteem? It's like, well do a steamable act. And the only way a steamable act is none of them are easy. Yeah. That would be boring dude. That'd
5:24Speaker 1be boring. Like if you want to, if you're, if you're someone out there that's like struggling with self esteem or just discontentment
5:33Speaker 1and you're having problems in a marriage or a relationship, like become a better man. What I mean by that is like, do become
5:42Speaker 1that opposite sex, like be a man of integrity and your amount of integrity, you attract integrity.
5:48Speaker 1You know, if you're doing shifty shit, cutting corners, if you're at your job and like,
5:53Speaker 1and you're an hourly employee and you're like fitting on this and feeling like that, that yields discontentment,
6:00Speaker 1You know what I mean? Like a lot of people realize that, but that's where a lot of people are unhappy
6:11Speaker 2I know it's so true and it's hard for anybody to really think like most of the stuff that's really good for you. You can't conceptualize and go,
6:19Speaker 2I know if I just do that, that makes sense. I'm going to feel really good. It's 1 of these things where you just got to do it and then you understand.
6:29Speaker 1Or like, so like 1 of the things that I'm doing currently is a 72 hour fast, which is hard. I've done it countless times and it still sucks. I was wanting to eat last night more than normal after day 1.
6:40Speaker 1But I remember I just keep thinking to myself at the end of the 72 hours, like when you're done with something hard, like it's hard, you are just like, I freaking did it, dude. Yeah.
6:51Speaker 2It's hard to explain. You know what I mean? And everything is hard body to is screaming like, no, no, no, don't do that. The best way is Have a donut. Have a burger.
7:03Speaker 2those who know know, right, do it, like, I think the things where they gave me the biggest gross were the assignments that the sponsor wouldn't check on like, Hey, you're going to go pray every night, right? For the person you most hate
7:24Speaker 2to check that you did that. Right. But the fact that you actually doing it and doing it consistently, like they say, nobody's going to know. You do. That's when God knows.
7:35Speaker 1most of contentment that we speak of because I had this experience fairly recently where some people that I love, we went through some stuff and man, I was angry and I was never thought I would have a resume and to the degree where it was hard for me to get past it. But my sponsor with Jedi sponsor, this says, I want you to pray for them every morning and pray for their success.
7:59Speaker 1I did it because I'm disciplined and I would hit my knees and I would pray for them and this success. And it was freaking hard for me to get out every day. But like eventually you don't even like, it's not like 1 day you're like content all of a sudden you're just subtly,
8:14Speaker 1have found forgiveness. Yep. It's hard to explain. It's rad dude. I mean, if you don't believe in God, I don't know what you're, I don't know what to tell you. There is a God. Yeah. Right. It makes life a lonely,
8:27Speaker 1when it doesn't need to be. Doesn't even matter if you call it God or you call it spirituality.
8:32Speaker 2And 1 the biggest things, right? Like I don't care what you call it, but like that just puts you, you now are not the most important thing in the world. If you have a God, but it's like,
8:40Speaker 2and that is a lot of burden because we all just right, have this natural instinct to just want to care about me, me, me, me,
8:48Speaker 2But if we have a God, then we go, all right, hey man, there's something bigger than me. And I'm not the most important. And it makes all this stuff a little bit easier. It takes pressure It
8:57Speaker 2makes going through a little bit of hard times a bit easier because the most important thing in the world is not my
9:11Speaker 1and, you know, you think everybody's looking at you because you're not comfortable in your skin. I remember thinking, I was sitting at this meeting and I looked and I was like, hey, I was like, man, everybody's looking at me, dude. He's like,
9:32Speaker 2I wanted to share that a little bit because life is freaking good. Look where we're at. We get a little touch of you guys today and I love it. So we are grateful for all of you, man. Yeah. We read some rad comments from you guys. So we're appreciative. Thank you. And life gets us too, man. I for sure get selfish a lot, but luckily you've done enough work to be able to, like, get myself out of it and right in the midst of chaos. There you go. Even in the midst of chaos, the worst things happen now. Can
10:01Speaker 2Alright, big dog, you're up. You start us off. So I will start us off. Number 1, sub warriors, I have a question on finasteride.
10:16Speaker 2is known to help women with acne. In some cases, it's shown to help men. Finasteride is known to help lower DHT and lower inflammation on the prostate, I guess.
10:26Speaker 2It can help battle acne. What are your thoughts? Go Warriors. All right, I have good thoughts 1st. Know a lot of the finasteride.
10:40Speaker 2DHT is interesting. It does a few things. Yes, it swells, it can inflame your prostate.
10:48Speaker 2Testosterone does this, but a lot of like different steroids that are straight up DHT derivatives,
11:00Speaker 2those will really, inflame prostate. So it, it, DHT inflates prostate. It also closes up pores, Okay? Your hair follicles, well, I think the follicle is the actual strand, but there's a pore around that. Okay? That's why you have high DHT. That's the reason for hair loss, right? Like testosterone
11:20Speaker 2So your pores close-up, hair can't grow. The same thing with your pores and your skin. Okay? Those things close-up,
11:35Speaker 2everybody thinks because that finasteride is the better 1 to take, but I would argue that dutasteride
11:42Speaker 2It has actually less side effects than finasteride, and the side effects are not great for a man. I know I take it in-depth, and it sucks. Like I
11:51Speaker 2have taken it in about 1 mg a day and, and no sex drive whatsoever. Like after a week of taking this stuff, I just was like, just could care less. Right. It's
12:03Speaker 2not even like I was horny and then the thing didn't work. It was just like, nah, don't feel like it. And it also gives you that feeling of like,
12:09Speaker 2like a Xanax without euphoria, just like no real good, no emotion. No, no, happy, no sad. And if there is no happy that comes,
12:20Speaker 1Think backne overfeeling that deal. But, but There's better ways to get rid of backne though. 100%.
12:27Speaker 2Is not, my guess is that the DHT is not the cause of your backneat. I think the estrogen is.
12:32Speaker 2It is a I mean, dude, I don't I mean, 1000 out of 1000 times. If we can increase your estrogen blocker,
12:55Speaker 2But anyway, go with anastrozole. If we get your estrogen checked, dude, all that hormonal
13:00Speaker 2imbalance is gonna go away and I guarantee that acne, all that dotted outness just goes Quickly.
13:09Speaker 2even, yeah, even today in this day and age, I suppose. Like, I know if my estrogen is a little bit elevated, like, damn, I'm getting like a zits
13:19Speaker 2Last night, I wake up in the morning and those things have receded down to 10% and they're going to be gone.
13:35Speaker 1yeah, it's estrogen. A lot of people don't know, like when I take testosterone, get acne or I get back acne and whatever.
13:42Speaker 2And they don't like doctors don't even realize that it just it's, it's the estrogen. Absolutely. It's estrogen. That's the most likely cause is estrogen. So historically most people are taking Finasteride like, so I just got the hair transplant, right?
14:04Speaker 2can anybody, if anybody wants to message in, like I sent a few people there and they've been really happy and everything is working out just fine.
14:26Speaker 2Now that has that's only for hair, the minoxidil portion of it. That's not a DHT blocker or anything,
14:33Speaker 2but that's to stimulate a little bit of hair growth. So there there is a dutasteride minoxidil
14:40Speaker 2pill together that you can find out there. So that's what they tell me, but frankly, but if we're just talking about, Hey, I'm doing tests and I'm getting back knee,
14:48Speaker 2dutasteride would be the right answer, but the real answer is it's an estrogen problem. I would just increase your estrogen blocker and keep yourself stable. And then the goal is to take as little estrogen blocker as you possibly can without
14:59Speaker 2feeling and seeing any side effects. Side effects are acne, water retention, and gyno sensitivity or
15:10Speaker 2And take as little estrogen blockers as you can, where you don't see any of those side effects. Well, it's been interesting,
15:20Speaker 1compared to like lately, there's been kind of a lot of doctors are saying like they don't like it, blah, blah, blah, blah. A lot of people where
15:27Speaker 1it's a big difference when you're talking about like a steroid cycle, that's greatly increasing your testosterone
15:37Speaker 1And that's what generally I think you and I talk about. It's not like we're saying you should take an AI. You think if you need it, if you get back knee, if you get your estrogens,
15:46Speaker 1you can do it quickly. You're not going to, you shouldn't be taking it in like any type of longevity. Doctors prescribe it like that. I would hope that they're not anymore.
15:55Speaker 2They're hopefully prescribed, especially like, and basically the amount of estrogen you create is
16:00Speaker 2equal to, or has a direct correlation to the amount of estrogen that comes up. Right? And so if you're on a TRT dose, it's a correct dose. That's a really, like, that's a very small amount. You shouldn't be making a whole bunch of estrogen. No. Okay. And you shouldn't theoretically,
16:16Speaker 2hopefully on TRT, I guess the right thing is to take enough dose where you feel the test, right? It's helping. And we don't, in TRT, the goal is not to build muscle. So you shouldn't be taking enough so much testosterone that you're popping muscles That's
16:31Speaker 2Need estrogen. And you need estrogen. So you shouldn't be taking so much tests where you actually need an estrogen blocker though some people are very sensitive. And
16:42Speaker 2But if we are talking about psycho levels, sure as hell might absolutely might need 1.
16:47Speaker 2there is a thing and I've experienced this myself of and people are like, oh, okay, so I'll just take my AI, like, right as I take my testosterone. Right? Like, no, no, no. Do not take the AI
16:57Speaker 2if you are not if you don't have elevated estrogen already. Okay? Basically, if you have normal estrogen
17:04Speaker 2and we kill that now, what's your body going do? It's going to go, what the fuck? I need to have that estrogen. And now it's going to work twice as hard creating estrogen and you have literally just shot yourself in the foot. I've done that much to myself. I'm like, the hell? And
17:16Speaker 2the secret was just like, I had to lower my test and just stop the AIs for like 3 weeks and
17:28Speaker 1And then, and it did, and it reset. And then I'm back on it and doing just fine. It takes a little time to like learn that stuff. But again, I mean, I w I was saying when I was working with a lot more guys during the fitness stuff, would have them talk about how the doctor would prescribe them the TRT and the AI
17:44Speaker 1and not really explain it. Like, shouldn't take it if you don't need it. That's the silliest thing ever, but it's like,
18:36Speaker 1It depends on how clean you want to be. Now you could switch it. I use the same needle for multiple.
18:47Speaker 1You know what I mean? That's just how clean are you? I'm not going to even say and lie to you that I'm like, I do that. I don't, you know, I'd use the same needle for multiple peptides and I personally put them all in 1 bottle. I do multiple, let's say I'm doing 7 peptides. I know that's a lot, but let's just say I
19:09Speaker 1I would separate those because I didn't like to mix those. Now at this point with lots and lots and lots of experience, I do not notice a difference even in putting those into the same bottle. So I take them all out 1 same syringe to pull out into the same bottle, pull out into the same bottle, pull out into the same bottle. And then I switched the syringe, brand new syringe
19:44Speaker 1AOD is known to do that. Sometimes I think if you were Mitch HGH, which I still push HGH and all of it, I don't really have a problem with cloudy. I don't know if that's stupid or not, but like, I've just been doing it for so long and it takes a long time in the morning. I'm disciplined, so I do it, but I don't want I it's been fine. I I've lived. I don't have a problem. I don't have any bumps. I don't have any so that's how I do it. I think you might maybe have a different answer, but maybe not. I don't know. Like, okay. So I think clean do you wanna be? Right. You could be overly clean.
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20:45Speaker 2Beck, answer is to, like Glut. You ever stick anything in your body, you wanna wipe yourself with alcohol. Right? Do you do that? No. I've no. I never have. Never. Never. So, like, what's the real answer? Like, what's the super safe answer that what will I actually do?
21:12Speaker 2and then into 1 peptide valve, water into another, water into another, because it's not actually touching that peptide, right? It's going into the air inside it.
21:21Speaker 2That's cool. So if you want to mix those and use that same needle, great. The official answer is you don't want to let the same needle actually
21:36Speaker 2I don't care. Now, if I had, like they said, if you have Ipamorelin and Tesamorelin, 2 different vials and you want to inject them together,
21:55Speaker 2going all into your stomach anyway and they're going to mix together so it doesn't really matter in the end. But
22:13Speaker 1So that's true and it could, and that's possible. I've done it so long for so long and never had a problem.
22:23Speaker 1people will say just to kind of like do it quicker, you're using the same needle, you pull it out of the Ipamorelin
22:29Speaker 1and then you pull it out of the Tesamorelin and just use the same needle. And some people will do that. I'd like to do that. Yeah, I know you've done that. And I, me, I don't just because I don't like the dull needle because I do give, I don't like bumps.
22:41Speaker 1Does give me bumps. So if I'd use the same brand new needle and you know, testosterone too, like if I'm, you know, mixing any type of oil or whatnot, it's a brand new needle every time I inject for me. Different learning of testosterone because those needles are so big. Yeah. Don't just always learn to like just a brand new needle to inject. But I would say brand, absolutely brand new. And that is smarter. I will definitely, right now it is, I will draw from 1, draw from 2,
23:04Speaker 2and inject. But more than that, if I'm drawing from 5 Right. That is some dull that is a dull ass It will. Right? But that's fact that you you'd notice by even, like, maybe 3 injections by pulling. The needle starts to bend a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Letting you know that like Yeah. You don't wanna put needle off inside of you. Yeah. Also, like besides the fact that it's uncomfortable,
23:25Speaker 2it builds scar tissue. Okay? So like a dull needle will build scar tissue and then that scar tissue doesn't absorb anything and will take up place. Then that's where you're to get like permanent bumps. Yep. Right? And spots where anybody who's done testosterone for a long time, of old school and use the same needle, like if you're injecting and then oil's coming out of that wound, cause you basically inject it into scar tissue, it's not absorbing a damn thing and it's just pushing it back out.
23:53Speaker 2space where you can create scar tissue and just ruin that tissue. So use a brand new 1. Now I will say do not. There are like,
24:01Speaker 2like AOD water that should just be mixed in AOD, right? It's got acetic acid, bacteriostatic water,
24:10Speaker 2That I just recently ran a bunch of tests on that and every other compound do not ever put acetic acid into anything else besides AOD. It will ruin the other peptides.
24:33Speaker 2I would say for like no, you can use it for SLU-3two You can use it for SLU-3two Especially like big 30 mg SLU-3two
24:46Speaker 2Yes. I've ran some bunch of tests. Like it can be put into anything, but besides I wouldn't use it with AOD because you're using AOD water with AOD.
24:56Speaker 2no sting has glycerol in there that's really thick. And so people could look at that and be like, why it doesn't look just like water because it's a bit of thicker consistency and that's true. It's not gonna, nothing is wrong, but you might just see it a little bit different.
25:39Speaker 1Not at all. When you do it long enough, you start to kinda Yeah. Cut a little bit of corners. Like, you get cleaner 1st. But, like, you have a 1st baby, like, you're like, oh my gosh. And then, like, 3rd baby, like, oh, he's fine. Throw him in the shit. Throw him the Yeah. Okay,
26:01Speaker 2Thanks. Also, while I'd love to travel someplace long enough to be able to bring unreconstituted
26:07Speaker 2peptides, I've usually only gone 3 to 4 nights max and I tend to buy larger doses of peptides to save money, right? So would hate to have to lose, have to toss any.
26:18Speaker 2you're going to offer some kind of cold pack for travel. Is that available yet? Ideally, it would hold at least 3 vials without being too bulky because I almost always have to travel carry on only. Thanks again. Well, lucky you, we brought a visual aid here. We did.
26:34Speaker 2Drumroll. So there is this option. This is like an FDA approved really like insulin carrying kit, but tells you the temperature,
26:47Speaker 2ice packs that you will keep cold. Right? You'll freeze them, put them in here. It has
26:57Speaker 2But you can probably stuff 40 peptides in here and 20 syringes if you want to. So it's got it has plenty.
27:08Speaker 2really tough looking logo and it is ready and that's the way to do So you can feel free to mix your peptides and bring them with you. Okay.
27:16Speaker 1Mean, that's probably most do the mix. I started learning that through the grapevine. I don't even remember how I even kind of thought through that, but
27:24Speaker 1what I think a lot of neat people need to realize, like, I don't always go for long periods. So if I go for like 3 days,
27:29Speaker 2I wait and mix them there, but I still bring them back. I don't leave them, don't use them all. Yeah, but there is the potential, like, I guess early on, right, when we were even learning about this stuff years ago,
27:41Speaker 2that was a concern. Right? Like, certain ways we were like, damn, they can't really How far out? They can't root they can't how many hours can they be
27:49Speaker 2be, warmed up? Do you think how long do you think what would you say? Because it's somewhat Well, right now, it totally depends on the peptide, but I would say that- How hot is it? Even how hot is it? Right? You just really don't wanna get get them really hot. Like room temp and
28:03Speaker 2cool dark place room temp, frankly, they will just they'll be just fine and last a long time. Some of them are more sensitive than others, some really aren't.
28:17Speaker 2just totally fine. Insurers aren't going to help you. Like if you lose a little bit of efficacy right there, just don't do it all the time. If
28:26Speaker 2not in the fridge, do not go home and throw it away. Just use it, use it. It's not gonna hurt you. I would. Yeah. I have. Also another visual aid, like here is a, someone's, people have always asked like, how do you find a good peptide company? Here's 1 sign. So this is like, this isn't ice pack. Any
28:56Speaker 2of the peptide. Because even unmixed, they can't get too hot. Right? The whole point of putting an ice pack in there isn't to keep it refrigerator cold, but it's prevent because it's going to right?
29:06Speaker 2Like in transit, but this at least will keep it cool from ever getting to that high temperatures where it's going to damage it, right? And if your company is putting these in, this means they care and know that you are spending
29:19Speaker 1on these peptides and you probably want them to work at their full, full efficacy. So it's also expensive. So that company is doing it. They care about you. They're spending money to care you. They're not even mixed. And you have some of those people that have, cause there's been a lot of questions that have come through here about people buying them mixed
29:34Speaker 1and then they get shipped. Think about how long they get shipped. So, you know, we're not here to knock about knock any companies. We don't really care what you do, grownups, but
29:42Speaker 1I would strongly recommend you don't buy it from a company that has the bottles mixed and then they ship it because they're not gonna be cold. They're not gonna And be
30:00Speaker 2All right. Let's see. Oh, DSIP. So dosing of the DSIP, I personally, I do, I fill about a 10 mg bottle with 1 mil of water. And
30:29Speaker 2I'm a big guy. I can handle it. I'd start it at 10, but like, and remember it doesn't make you just drool on yourself and pass out. Right? It just puts
30:45Speaker 2and not just like ruin your day. You absolutely could. It just is going to night like give you, just make you kind of really calm. It doesn't put you to sleep. Just puts all of your brain in that position to be asleep. Then when you do fall asleep, you get in that real restful REM sleep. Yeah. DSIPs around. I
31:04Speaker 1So oftentimes I go to sleep at like 09:30 and then wake up at 2. I don't know why that is, but it just is what it is. Sometimes I get up, sometimes I don't. But the reason I say that is because
31:15Speaker 1I know that when I take this, it gets me into that REM sleep quickly because I feel more rested
31:22Speaker 1I do 20 units, same math. So that's the same as 1 mill, 10. Everybody like that. So that's what I do. So he's doing 1 mg. I'm saying 1 mg to 2 mg. Yeah. Every once in while, if I'm like, knew, I think I need to sleep real well. Do,
31:37Speaker 1you know, 30 was like a make and 0.5. Yeah. For you. That's about it. That works well. So yeah. DSIP's right. You haven't tried it and you have problems sleeping?
32:32Speaker 1in my opinion, it doesn't have to be refrigerated. We suggested I'm taking it right now because you guys have probably been seeing, I've been, I just had a laser facial, so I've been taking it every day. I mean, I was going to do a post today. I mean, my face is always just kind of red, I think. I
32:47Speaker 1don't know why, but like, I'm not joking. It's been 4 days and my face is almost healed and it usually takes 9 days.
32:58Speaker 1it's like, like I'm already almost healed. And like, you saw somebody that got the same
33:06Speaker 1thing you would, it would, there, it takes them to like 7 days minimum. So my face is almost already healed. It works. Now,
33:12Speaker 1I say that because I put it in the fridge because when you're, when you're kind of scraped up, it feels good. It's cold. So it doesn't need to be refrigerated. It feels better when it's in the cold, when you put it on it.
33:26Speaker 1my bride and your girlfriend kind of like instructed us how to do this. You do the microderm
33:32Speaker 1abrasion. So what it's called. Yeah, I was forget that name. And then you put that on your face 3 times a week is generally what I've been doing. It opens up your pores, opens it up and then you rub it in there. Okay. So that's what you do 3 times a week. Now, depending on your pocketbook, can you use it every night? Of course, I wouldn't do the microdermer thing every night, 3 times a week. And then I do, I do do that
33:54Speaker 1every night because it does work well. And then I do put some lotion on it after because it does dry it out a little bit, but that's what I do in regards to the SLU- pills. No, you don't need to be refrigerated.
34:18Speaker 2yeah, I 2nd everything you just said about the serum. I frankly use it every day like a face lotion.
35:33Speaker 2The SLU-1P injectable, 100% for sure, refrigerate it, but the SLU-2P tabs, don't need to. The shelf life on those tablets is a lot longer than any peptide, any injectable peptide. The big thing in the SLU-2P tabs, you don't want to do is like get moisture in it because they're pressed pills. Just every press, there are pressed pills with no coating. Coating
35:51Speaker 2makes it so a pressed pill doesn't break up, right? You were to pour water into the SLU-3PO pills, they will turn into mush.
36:09Speaker 2is a for the right person. Never done have you? I have not for weight loss. I've done a lot of Naltrexone in my life because I've been addicted to opiates.
36:22Speaker 2naltrexone injections in my glutes and oh my God, that 1 hurts. Right? It feels like they are injecting sand
36:34Speaker 2sew a pellet into you and it gives off naltrexone for like 3, 4 months. The 2nd 1 I got, I got tired of having it in there and I took my utility knife and I cut it out of myself.
36:44Speaker 2Don't do that either, but you know, those are dark times when I just like, yeah, right. Like, I just could not be okay with
36:52Speaker 2not being high, so that sucks. So don't do that ever. I never got paid for doing any of those either.
36:57Speaker 2I was actually the 1st person in the state of Washington to ever get 1 those nitrexone pellets. I had my doc. I told my doctor like, cause California started it. And I told my doctor like, Hey, know they're doing this. I've flown down to La Mirada
37:23Speaker 2good for so Naltrexone for people like me, it actually like helps with cravings. And so a lot of people for appetite things take it for to reduce cravings for anything. Right? And and we crave anything that spikes our dopamine,
37:38Speaker 2I guess it doesn't really reset your receptors, but it kind of increases your receptor signaling efficiency.
37:59Speaker 2would say, don't, not everybody just go out and get this. It's going to be hard for you to get naltrexone anyway. It's a prescription drug.
38:06Speaker 2But maybe start with small doses and if you're the right person and if it works, if it works great for you, then then awesome.
38:12Speaker 2But I don't know. I wouldn't say everybody just madly go out and it's some, like, magical cure.
38:29Speaker 2and thymalin are not popular? From what I read, they do amazing things for cancer and immune issues. I'm guessing Pharm doesn't want to cure issues.
38:48Speaker 2I'll spare you. Your wallet. Right. So it's like, oh, no. I did that adamotide. We I absolutely took a hard look at that 1 for a while, when getting it in the there is
38:57Speaker 2it's really harsh on the body and it's not It has benefits for sure. It's got, like, cool benefits, but there's also some really scary reporting as an actual use cases where it's like
39:12Speaker 2scares me. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do it to anybody that- There's other stuff that might happen, but it's also really rough on the body. And so like, that is why it is not popular. Although it may do a lot of good things, it does
39:54Speaker 2your immune system. So it is gonna signal and say, Hey, immune system, no matter what, let's just go back to normal.
40:05Speaker 2of your immune system, right? And so that basically is like a controlled thermostat where it could flood you a T cell, Treg cells,
40:18Speaker 2beat up immune system guys, let's hyper boost it. Whereas the bioregulator is not going hyper boost anything. It's only going to bring it down
40:29Speaker 2but there you go. And so why is it not that popular? Because Thymosin Alpha is better. Yeah. I would I wouldn't option. Why do it? Yeah. Why do it? It's also a really old drug and it's really cheap.
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41:19Speaker 2it's it's there, and there's just not a big markup on it because it's cheap. So I think this this 1 is less of a conspiracy theory and more of just an economic
41:29Speaker 1issue of why it's not popular. I've done some reading on it. It's kind of big in Russia, which a lot of peptides are big in Russia.
41:36Speaker 1I did some studying on the Thymalon just because I had heard a podcast on it, so I was intrigued by it. But as Will said, you have Thymosin Alpha-one that's a better, it's a, you know, just a better compound. So why would you do something that's weaker if you can do something that's more powerful?
41:56Speaker 1What, some of the cool thing about like Will and I, like, 1 of us will be like, Hey, have you heard about this? Or usually it's me, Hey, have you heard about this? And he already has usually and like, we'll kind of talk through it. We're like, Yeah, because
42:08Speaker 1here's some of the negatives. So sometimes we're like thinking through if it's something that we should dig into and get
42:14Speaker 1and all that stuff. And there's been a few that we've lagged on getting, I think, compared to some companies because
42:25Speaker 2that's 1 of the reasons that we've kind of left that 1 alone. But we've talked about a lot of ask me all the time, well, why don't you make, okay, so DSIP, right? Like why can't it be like, why don't you have a pill? Right? DSIP is not good for pills. Sorry folks.
42:40Speaker 2just kill most of the drug before it ever gets to you. Same reason we don't make most things into pills because they're just, they just don't work and we're not going to sell junk. Not
42:57Speaker 1but we've just talked about it for, We talked about it and we're like, we're not going to just sell something just because it says peptides,
43:04Speaker 1which a lot of people will, and that's not knocking anybody except for each zone. We are arguing just anybody using anything that just because it says peptides. That's what they sell. Like, remember when, like, everybody went through that keto thing and, like, they had keto bars and keto this and keto that. They sucked. They weren't good. They weren't even like, you would get out of ketosis.
43:24Speaker 1Yeah. They weren't even legitimate. Put keto on there and people were buying it. Like, I'm gonna stay in ketosis. No. You're not allowed to spike your insulin and you're screwed, but whatever. They have ketosis on our keto bars.
43:39Speaker 1Anyway That will spike your insulin. Yep. Alright. You were up. I'm up. Okay. Few questions about the Wolverine and its cousins, Glow and Clo. I'm currently in the mountain bike race off season,
43:53Speaker 1working out in the gym 3 to 4 times per week, rehabbing last season's damage while building fitness for the next. I'm running 500
44:10Speaker 1mg a week of each compound for about 8 weeks. And then when riding racing season starts in March, drop that down to maintenance dose
44:20Speaker 1with the random boost to handle injuries repair as needed for maintenance. Would it be better to run a steady low dose every day
44:36Speaker 1with small steady flow over time, or if it might work better with a higher dose at times of maximum blood flow,
44:42Speaker 1like work out on a bike ride. I'll take this 1 1st and then kind of jump in. So I love the Wolverine. I've said it numerous times, it's my favorite compound. If I had to choose 1, it would be that just because of the fact that I'll lift weight till I die. We've talked about that, but
44:56Speaker 1I don't think there's an exact answer on this. I don't think anybody's going to really know. It's going to be kind of a matter of like how you feel and you trying it.
45:10Speaker 1daily and sometimes I just don't, but like generally because 1 I've had back surgeries and I'm trying to not ever have 1 again. So I don't know how much this is really staying ahead of the curve or not, but stem cells and
45:26Speaker 1And I have really bad shoulders. And when I don't take it, my shoulders hurt again. Okay. So I do that to stay ahead of the curve. And I have found that it works for me. Now I ripped my chest.
45:41Speaker 1freaking hurt like a son of a bitch. And I thought I was gonna have more problems and I jabbed it with just a ton of the Wolverine.
45:51Speaker 1it worked. And I was ready. I'd never even stopped lifting. I went real light and real slow,
45:56Speaker 1but every once in a while I aggravated again and I just blast it. I blast it for 2, maybe 3 days with higher dose
46:04Speaker 1and it works for me. That's when I do it. So kind of a cruise and blast. Like I run it generally
46:16Speaker 1Now, if I feel pain, I do heavier dosages and that's what works for me. Do I think that's going to be the recipe for everybody? No. There might be better ways to do it, but when I have pain, I do more when I just for just to stay away from pain, I just do it consistently
46:36Speaker 1day? And that's it. Yeah, but it depends on how much. 10. So, but like, I think that works for me.
46:42Speaker 2So I don't think there's an exact answer on this. No, I don't hear you're right. I don't, I don't think there's a really right answer, but here's my answer. I
46:57Speaker 2let's heal a bunch of injuries or like nagging little injuries, you're riding heavily, I know that's rough on your body. I think that the more consistent,
47:05Speaker 2smaller dose approach is the better 1. And I would say daily, if not every other day, I still think daily is better. Okay?
47:24Speaker 1run that till that injury is gone. Higher dose. Usually works really good too. If you're doing it consistently on a daily basis, I have found when you do have flare ups and you blast it for like 3 days, maybe it really brings it down. It really compounding
47:49Speaker 1I need help and listen to every show. You guys seem to know your stuff. Been on TRT since June.
48:04Speaker 1as it goes on. My doctor prescribed me Cialis, which does nothing for me. I get erections through the night and wake up in the morning with morning blood,
48:16Speaker 1when the time comes, I'm all revved up and ready to go. But when I start, the erection goes away. I've asked online TRT community, don't do that.
48:44Speaker 1I can't even believe that I'm even reading this with what my numbers are showing. Get a new doctor. Yeah.
49:07Speaker 1as well. Same issue. It gets me to full go, but fell at the start. I've lost weight 2 43 down to 2 16. Good for you With Retatrutide
49:23Speaker 1The weight loss was from October to Christmas workout 3 times per week. Not a stressful person to don't drink nor smoke. It's making it hard with Mrs.
49:34Speaker 1The Mrs. And me fast daily for 16 to 20 hours. Sounds like he's a thorough dude. You kind of thought through this. You want me to take this? You want to go ahead, but I will also have some answers and questions.
49:46Speaker 11st and foremost, I kind of answered it reading because it just frustrated me and I was reading it. If your doctor doesn't want to run your estrogen, find another doctor. I mean, that's just silly. That's just the answers a lot of the questions there. Now, you know, we've talked with numerous doctors and there's going to be a wide range of what your estrogen should be, what your free testosterone should be, what your total testosterone should be. We are a science project. How do you feel now? You're not working down there. Now,
50:12Speaker 1the 1st thing that jumped out at me is some of it seems like a psychological, right? When you start to
50:18Speaker 1think it ain't going to work, that is a stressful thing. Like you're supposed to have some love with your bride and she's like, you know, looking at you and it ain't working. Sucks. I'm imagining we've all been there, even if it's when we were drinking or not, we've been there and it sucks. So that is stressful. I would imagine that has to do with some of it, but
50:37Speaker 1you need to know your numbers. You need to know what your estrogen is. I'm going to say it again because it needs to be said, If your doctor doesn't run your estrogen, find another doctor. If your doctor just runs
50:51Speaker 1So he's got so much ego, can't do anything. That's stupid. Why would you just want to know what testosterone levels is? The free testosterone is where you get a lot of your energy, sex drive, things like that. Like they all kind of cohesively
51:13Speaker 1I I've talked to, you know, Doctor. Scott, his levels, he likes them very different. We have another Doctor. Stanley coming on with he and I have talked recently and his levels, I'll let him say what they are a lot higher than I've expected, but we are science projects,
51:26Speaker 1And like if he runs better and he feels better and his sex drive works better and he, you know what I mean? Like these
51:42Speaker 1there's a lot of MDs that don't when it comes to hormones and things like that. A lot of them, unfortunately, are taught to prescribe and that's what they know and they don't continue on the education in learning
51:54Speaker 1that type of stuff. So there are really good doctors. You've seen Doctor. Scott on here. He spent the time to get better and better and better and learn and learn. And we all should be doing that, man. If your doctor's not doing that, find a different doctor. That means
52:09Speaker 2what do you got? 0 Okay. So I think there's this requires some questions. And 1st of all, like, dude, I feel for you. I think that we've all been there and, and JD's right about the psychological thing. It's crazy.
52:21Speaker 2Cause, cause, cause why do we think it's psychological? Cause you're physically capable of getting your attention.
52:26Speaker 2In the morning and then, and then when it comes down to it and I know why people are saying, well, try your sister out. Right? Like that's kind of a dick thing to say or really to do.
52:41Speaker 2I don't think that that's probably the issue. Because it sure sounds like you were doing fine earlier in your life with her.
52:49Speaker 2That can happen. But right. When 1 thing doesn't work, then you're like, oh shoot, I hope it works. And then that just leads into it not working. Yeah.
53:00Speaker 2Estrogen, I think estrogen is probably the number 1 thing that we need to check. That's probably the number 1 culprit.
53:17Speaker 2think he knows, but he's like, no, it isn't that. But like a doctor should go, well, maybe it is.
53:22Speaker 2Who knows? Cause that, I mean, there's pretty obvious culprit. He's just got too much ego like here, he knows.
53:42Speaker 2Would, if you're going once a week, if you're going once every 2 weeks, heaven forbid,
53:53Speaker 2I mean, I guess tell us, yeah, how often you are, but Hey, go to daily split those, whatever the amount you're doing frigging
54:11Speaker 2So you're pretty low. You gave us a reading of your SHBG, right? Your sex hormone bonding, sex hormone binding globulin essentially like we have receptors,
54:20Speaker 2we have androgen receptors, we do testosterone and other engines, they stick to this and once they stick to that, then it works. Right? Then our body actually feels it. SHBG
54:39Speaker 2Then this, so they don't really work and therefore we're not getting free testosterone,
54:47Speaker 2That's part of the reason why somebody would want to take Provirin, right? Everybody thinks, hey, Provirin enhances everything. Why is it a enhance everything? Provirin goes here and strips the SHBG
54:56Speaker 2off. Now everything that you're taking wax sticks and works way better. That was good. So but you've
55:30Speaker 2can increase estrogen because it's increasing your gonad output. It could also increase prolactin. If this stuff sure sounds like a prolactin issue, if you ask me. This is what people get with like decadick or trendick. Right? They take trend. They're horny. It works,
55:51Speaker 2frankly, whatever you blood test, I maybe differ from a lot of people, but I want to know how you feel. And I would still forget what the blood even says. Try something and because 1 reading might be perfect
56:16Speaker 2right? Take a, what did I just say? Provirin works. It is an anabolic steroid. It's a very mild 1.
56:28Speaker 2it's a dopamine agonist, but that kills off your prolactin and prolactin is what causes
56:33Speaker 2trendy, decadick and kind of sounds like that, to be honest, it kind of sounds like that. So I would try taking prolactin,
56:41Speaker 2manage estrogen. But the biggest thing it's like, when you take tests, it does amp up our like sympathetic
56:48Speaker 2which is where we just, we don't have any effect over that. We don't really know that it is, but it's kind of amping us up and all of that amp up or too much caffeine, right? Anything that's kind of boosting, like making your nervous system hyperactive
57:14Speaker 2Yeah. 1 of the best drugs that I know of for relaxing C Mag, well, Selank. I would do CLAG. CMAG would get it up, but I would really heavily go CLAG.
57:24Speaker 2Another 1 that isn't a peptide or anything, it might be kinda hard to get is Phenibut.
57:29Speaker 2Phenibut actually kind of kicks ass for sexual issues. It makes things just relax down there and your brain relax. You just chill. And I don't know, use the secret.
57:43Speaker 1because like, think about it. It works. You said it. So it's gotta be some connection of your head not working into like your doctor hasn't run your estrogen. If your estrogen is too high, it could diminish your sex drive. Your estrogen is too low, can diminish your sex drive. The fact that he doesn't want to know what it is is stupid. It's stupid. It's absolutely like stupid. So get it in the dark. If you feel like, if you want to DM us and maybe ask where to get any of those things that I said, if you don't know, ask.
58:15Speaker 2dude. Yeah, actually. Sorry. Thank you. Thank you there producer behind the camera. Thank you, Jesus, that you're somewhere.
58:34Speaker 2is the love drug that helps, but it also has a very calming effect. And that will really help Selank
58:45Speaker 2That's like the weekend that lock you and your wife in your hotel room for a weekend. Yeah, you know what you should do too, if you're taking Cialis,
58:54Speaker 1but if you're taking Cialis like to get ready, you should be taking 5 mg of Cialis daily because it's gonna, 1, be great for your lips. Like, I do it every day because it's just great for lips and blood flow and blah blah blah. For your lips? So, lifts. Oh. Lips. Like, like, blood flow and lifts.
59:10Speaker 1But you should try that to where it's not you're only just taking it before because I think it's a head problem.
59:15Speaker 1And so if you're taking it like daily 5 mg per day, it compounds it builds and you get blood flow. Always. And yeah, it's weird that the Cialis doesn't work. Like, yeah, because of caffeine that restricts any stimulants
59:27Speaker 2restrict blood vessels. Right? It's like The PT-one 41 don't work? 1 41 doesn't work? Shit. I do it, I'm like walking around for days. Right. Man, dude. No. He said it works, but it then,
59:38Speaker 2it gets you full go, but fail but fail at the start. Like, damn, dude. It sure sounds like a head thing, but I know that's not what you don't want. So what you need is relax, is relax, relax, relax. But
59:53Speaker 2Sucks. Like this will can will ruin a marriage. Like this is like a not a fun place to be for a man. And I'm sure it's not a fun place to be for a woman, you know, especially if you're married to this person, like, that sucks, dude. So if you wanna reach back out to us, we can help further.
1:00:11Speaker 2Questions regarding CJC Ipamorelin. Would you recommend with or without DAC for my 1st time? I would say without DAC. Okay. Way more We just did a on this. Yeah, we just did a pod watched our last podcast where we talk about every single secretagogue. Yep. Or the 1 before that where we just talk about CJC.
1:00:36Speaker 2every day, but it is way more like your natural growth output and will give you better results and safer results. Okay? I'm 37 UPS driver, so I'm active and go to the gym. I weigh about 200 pounds,
1:00:48Speaker 2trying to lose weight and lean out, And my natural test is in the 8 to 900 range. Also, would be a good starting point to stack Retta with?
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1:01:45Speaker 1I see the other just man. I mean, SLU-throw SLU in there instead of the AOD, but AOD is a lot of it. I'd say AOD is number 1, but like, okay, here's our secondaries is is like 5 m, 1 MQ. Right. SLU-1MQ,
1:02:49Speaker 265 year old woman or whatever husband is good for you. You're a good wife asking in this because 50
1:03:00Speaker 2weird. I almost don't trust the blood test. Sometimes this data gets weird. I don't know if he's on, if it's on like keto or fasting, it can
1:03:23Speaker 2And you're asking because you're not really seeing the benefits of that 50 free tests. It's probably not really like that.
1:03:38Speaker 2forcing the guy to go take cold baths and fast and like just give him some testosterone.
1:03:44Speaker 2You know? He's a good candidate for it. There's all a bunch of natural things that people can do to like, but he's not,
1:03:58Speaker 2For everybody's sake, it'll work like that too. Everybody will be happier. Feel a new man in 3 minutes. Take him to go to DRT if you wanna die Then for the rest
1:04:06Speaker 2get give it a few months, then run the numbers. I bet you'd be radically different. Yeah. You'll see it. I dare I mean, you'll I think you're gonna see it in his behavior and
1:04:27Speaker 1What's up? Last question, guys. All right. So what's up guys? Cisco here. I'm back. I took your advice on the Q and A all but
1:04:34Speaker 1the test. I just can't get the injection in the muscle. No, I know. But here's my question. A friend of mine wants to do a copper peptide as a topical after
1:04:53Speaker 1like a serum as a topical. Do you agree? No. 1 more. I'm loving the Tessa Ipamorelin and have noticed a big decrease in my lower belly and love handles with no water retention. My wife on the other hand was retaining a lot of water. So she got off 1 of her friends too. Is there way
1:05:17Speaker 1water? Thanks again for the podcast. It's awesome. Keep up the good work. Much love from over here in the Midwest. For
1:05:24Speaker 1sure. I don't think so. I mean, just, mean, you could do both. I do both. I love GHK-3Cu.
1:05:42Speaker 1Ours in particular has a SNAP-eight too, which is like Botox in a bottle, it's gonna tighten skin, get rid of wrinkles. It's
1:05:49Speaker 1just gonna be better. Could it work? Sure. Why would you do that? Just inject the GHK-two and use the face serum. So that's my answer on that. When it comes to Tesamorelin,
1:06:41Speaker 2know it sounds weird, but like there's stuff in there you don't want to spray in your face, but inject it. But
1:06:48Speaker 2that stuff that's in there for the injection is kind of meant to go in there and, like the salt puck that they put in, that they put everybody when you ophilize a peptide, folks, if you just got the raw peptide powder
1:07:04Speaker 2and crimp the top, you would look at it and go, Where is my peptide? Right? You'd see little wisps of nothing.
1:07:15Speaker 2in there that mixes with the peptide, give it some like volume and body and a preservative,
1:07:23Speaker 2suck the air out most of them just because you have the air sucked if the air is if it's not vacuum sealed, doesn't necessarily that's just 1 lab's
1:07:31Speaker 2Okay? So just like if it doesn't if it's not vacuum sealed, not necessarily bad. Now, you know, that is 1 sign that maybe somebody tampered with it,
1:07:39Speaker 2took the top off before selling it to you and just like crimp the top on and that's bad, but just it's not necessarily a bad sign if it's not vacuum sealed. But,
1:07:48Speaker 2you know, you don't, there's way better things to do that is made into a serum, right? That the water just kind of runs off your face anyway. Plus
1:07:57Speaker 2it has- You can waste a lot of bacterial I mean, plus it's got, you know, benzyl alcohol,
1:08:03Speaker 2not great in micro needling. I would absolutely use a serum by the way, in 1 of these serums that we have, right? So let's say you have your 100 mg of GHK CU bottle, right? To make 1 of our serums, 20 mils,
1:08:18Speaker 2we, there are 21 bottles of that to make So blue. Have you ever looked at other companies?
1:08:30Speaker 2You're getting a ton for your money, by the way. That's what it works. Way more and it works. It works. It's
1:08:36Speaker 2So I would do that for sure. And your last question is, oh yeah, yeah, he's right about that. Women,
1:08:51Speaker 2each, Tessa and Ipah, okay? And let them use that stable, maybe 2 weeks, show, hey, not retaining water or at least have lost that water. Or if you wanna just stop it altogether, let the water flush,
1:09:07Speaker 2Go with like 2 week increments, right? 250 micrograms daily. Hell, even 3 days a week if you wanna start really low, then go up to 500 micrograms and you should find your sweet spot. If you go to the next level, maybe 7 50 and you start retaining water, too much. There it is. Back her back down. Lose and then just chill. Cause things just work better in women. They're smaller people. Yeah. Usually.
1:09:32Speaker 2Then, yeah, find a sweet spot, but don't just stop. Absolutely don't stop. Ride it out. There's a lot of things with, with, with, these secretagogues that honestly, if you just kind of ride it out, lower your dose, let your body normalize, get used to it, you're all good. Good
1:09:48Speaker 1stuff. That was good. We always liked this 1. It's always fun to have the side. So we have
1:09:54Speaker 1Doctor. Stanley coming on. What is today? I think we recorded it. No, 2 days. And it will drop on Monday and we're going to talk a little bit more about some testosterone replacement.
1:10:06Speaker 1So we'll kind of see where the conversation goes. Then after that, not right after, but we are going to have a gal on here who is a nurse practitioner
1:10:24Speaker 1and just certain things directed towards you women. And she knows a lot about a lot of that stuff. So we want to have that on there for her. So I think with Doctor. Stanley, we will talk about some of the things with like
1:10:36Speaker 1AIs and things like that, because there has been some shifts in people's opinions on that. His in particular, his, his, what he believes estrogen levels are okay and things like that. So a little bit of a different opinion than I think some of Will and I have discussed, but like anything, you know, there's growth on all aspects, you know, like we're always, the cool thing about what we do is these are conversations we've had forever long before, like we were on a podcast, they would just be us talking.
1:11:02Speaker 1Now we have a lot of people that come into our realm because of this and we get to learn and continue to grow and continue to maybe have different perspectives. That's called growth, right? We are not too proud to say we don't know everything just because we were on a podcast and no me knew everything. We pretend to know everything, but we love it. We study it and that will never stop. So that is coming. Anything else you got? Yeah, we are thinking about you ladies. That is why we're having,
1:11:28Speaker 2a lot of questions. And really, and, and, you know, I don't know, those questions are better answered. A lot of them are better answered, but from a woman and she is practicing in this space, like daily,
1:11:43Speaker 2facial trends. Oh yeah. And we're going to try to get anyway, we'll let Doctor. Stanley speak for himself and you'll see, but you should watch that. That's good takes on different things and other alternative medicines that people ask about, especially men. But the women 1, are thinking about you, we're going to do that.
1:11:58Speaker 1We're absolutely going to do that. And we can expand on that more too, if that helps. Yeah. She does some stuff like Ipu. Don't know if I've done it before. I don't know if anybody knows what that is, but it's like blood transfusion. Literally take blood out of your body. It cleans it of toxins. It cleans it of like microplastics.
1:12:13Speaker 1I've done it. I did it with her. So she'll talk a little bit about that. It's interesting. We might even will and I might even go try it and just record it. He's never done it, but that stuff's cool, man. So those are the kinds of stuff that we get to try and it's like you can age really well these days. These things cost,
1:12:34Speaker 2customers told me that she is doing it's new. And she said, Hey, will you do you want to be like a test case? Right? Because it's usually really expensive, but it's draw your blood, then
1:13:04Speaker 1the doctor or the nurse practitioner that we're talking about. So we'll talk about whatever kind of pops up, but we will talk about
1:13:10Speaker 1a lot of the testosterone questions that you ladies want to talk about. Cause we get so many from you. We want to have 1 episode for you. Yeah. And we know a bunch of women who are taking testosterone pellets, like in our, in our loving it. She does that. And
1:13:23Speaker 2some are taking deserves from pellets and, you know, maybe aren't loving it, but have found a better way.