Peptide Q&A #28 – Mixing Peptides, Libido Crashes, Wolverine Dosing & Women’s Water Retention
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0:39  Speaker 0:  Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast.
0:42  Speaker 0:  I'm your host, JD Denham, across the way looking dapper as always my buddy, William T. Ross,
0:49  Speaker 0:  ready for another episode of the Q and A. Yes, sir. It was funny, man. We were talking off camera where
0:57  Speaker 0:  I had these moments in the morning lately where
1:01  Speaker 0:  I don't know, man, if you ever go through these little stages where just these moments of gratitude,
1:06  Speaker 0:  you know what I mean? Just moments of gratitude. Our lives pretty damn cool, man. And 1 of those moments this morning where, you know, going through, you know, I posted that reel of just where our company has come, where we've come from
1:18  Speaker 0:  so quickly and just guys, 2 dudes that were
1:22  Speaker 0:  addicted to drugs and where their life has come. And like sometimes it's so good to just sit in a pile of, yeah, that's freaking good, dude. It's
1:31  Speaker 0:  just rad. And like,
1:32  Speaker 0:  you know, we sit in this podcast,
1:35  Speaker 0:  almost
1:36  Speaker 0:  didn't happen. I was thinking about it this morning, bro. Like, so we almost a year ago, we're up in Vegas. We were going up there for some business stuff, just trying to figure out we were going to do some wholesale stuff. So we go up there
1:48  Speaker 0:  and I think I was trying to talk Will and to sit down with me and doing,
1:52  Speaker 0:  it wasn't a podcast. It wasn't, it was just a 10 minute thing on. I was going put on YouTube about-3s): BPC.
1:59  Speaker 0:  BPC. So we sat down, we did it and we, that was the Genesis
2:03  Speaker 0:  of,
2:04  Speaker 0:  I mean, that was
2:06  Speaker 0:  10, 10 months ago, 10 months ago. So that's how fast this has grown to the fact that we're sitting in our own podcast studio that we've built by 3 hard work and just man, it's And by no means, was it like, did we start going, let's make a podcast? It was like, no, no, no, was just,
2:23  Speaker 1:  Hey, just let's put a little bit of
2:26  Speaker 0:  some information
2:28  Speaker 1:  out there because this stuff's cool. And
2:31  Speaker 0:  with no plan of doing, of doing this. That's crazy how things just kind of just fall into place, man. And now like, again, also, you know, 1 thing that if people don't know, which probably a lot of people don't,
2:42  Speaker 0:  Will and I own a business together and
2:45  Speaker 0:  he is kind of the brains, if you will. He does the backend, he does the computer stuff. He does the systems.
2:52  Speaker 0:  He's that guy. And I am more of the social media guy. He doesn't get to see as much of the social media stuff as I do now, if there's some cool 1, I have a cool comment. I send it to him so you guys all know. But,
3:03  Speaker 0:  yeah, man, it was like, we get to read through some of your comments and just the people that are just appreciative of what we do. And it's funny because this were 2 dudes that just talked like this when we weren't on a podcast. Like, we would just be talking about compounds.
3:17  Speaker 0:  Hey, bro, did you check this out? Or have you heard about this? And that's all we do on a podcast now, and it's like, dude, life is good, dude. Yeah. Yeah.
3:24  Speaker 1:  Agree, man. It's an amazing
3:26  Speaker 1:  switch from
3:27  Speaker 1:  from just being miserable. I guess, you know, before in the past life 10 years ago, right, I had 2 emotions of
3:35  Speaker 1:  excited and depressed, right? That's it. And so it is priceless to wake up or sit back and just, and feel content.
3:44  Speaker 0:  You had those moments of like, because life's
3:48  Speaker 0:  peaks and valleys. Sometimes I'm like working through because like, I don't want you happy. It doesn't want you to enjoy whatever the dark side, the devil, I don't care what you call it. It's just, it doesn't want you content.
3:59  Speaker 1:  It is. I think it's human nature and that's what, how we ensure progress. Sure.
4:04  Speaker 1:  Yeah. I think that's almost God's way of ensuring the survival of our species is making us never
4:09  Speaker 1:  feel content and always need more. And because that is the truth, right? If we were always just content, we would still be animals.
4:16  Speaker 0:  Yeah. If you're content, you're
4:18  Speaker 0:  sitting there. So you're just not doing a whole lot. We're supposed to grow. We're supposed to evolve. We're supposed to be deader. We're supposed to do more. Like the people, and I'm not talking about bank accounts. Everybody wants bank accounts to grow. That's the opposite, but it's more of like
4:31  Speaker 0:  you're content more when you're helping other people, you're content more when you're doing something cool or like getting out of your comfort, comfortable little box of like normal where you're, you know, comfort is the enemy of progress. If you're like comfortable, you're doing it wrong. There's no growth in comfort.
4:46  Speaker 0:  You grow when you're like, dude, I don't want to do this. I'll give a perfect example of this as well, did not want to do this. You're just not, you're not a face of like, you don't, he's not on social media. He never has been. So for him to sit down and do this was a lot. You were very uncomfortable. You glued back at some of the 1st ones, you're like trying to look straight because that's just not your gig, dude. But like, that's where the growth is, man. That is true. So I was thinking about this morning, man. It was pretty damn cool to be like, man, life is cool dude. Speaking of- What are gonna do?
5:13  Speaker 1:  Grow what are gonna do? Mean,
5:15  Speaker 1:  yeah, you just got to do uncomfortable things, right? Like if ever I feel myself like, man, I'm unhappy
5:21  Speaker 1:  or,
5:22  Speaker 1:  feeling stagnant, I suppose is the obvious answer is like, some that scares me, like do something that is out of my comfort zone. Like people want to know how do I build self esteem? It's like, we'll do a steamable act. And the only way a steamable act is none of them are easy. Yeah. That would be boring dude.
5:39  Speaker 0:  That would be boring. Like if you want to, if you're someone
5:41  Speaker 0:  out there that's like struggling with self esteem or just discontentment
5:45  Speaker 0:  or anxiety,
5:48  Speaker 0:  and you're having problems in a marriage or a relationship, like become a better man. What I mean by that is like, do become somebody that attracts
5:57  Speaker 0:  that opposite sex, like be a man of integrity and your amount of integrity, you attract integrity.
6:03  Speaker 0:  You know, if you're doing shifty shit, cutting corners, if you're at your job and like,
6:08  Speaker 0:  and you're an hourly employee and you're like fibbing on this and fibbing like that, that yields discontentment,
6:13  Speaker 0:  yields anxiety.
6:15  Speaker 0:  You know what I mean? Like a lot of people realize that, but that's where a lot of people are unhappy
6:20  Speaker 0:  because of cheating on shit. You know what I mean?
6:23  Speaker 1:  Absolutely.
6:24  Speaker 1:  A 100%. And it's,
6:26  Speaker 1:  I know it's so true and it's hard for anybody to really think like most of the stuff that's really good for you. You can't
6:32  Speaker 1:  conceptualize and go, okay, I know if I just do that, that makes sense. I'm going feel really good. It's 1 of those things where you just got to do it
6:40  Speaker 1:  and then you understand.
6:42  Speaker 0:  You understand it. Yeah.
6:44  Speaker 0:  Or like, so like 1 of the things that I'm doing currently is a 72 hour fast, which is hard. I've done it countless times and it still sucks. I was wanting to eat last night more than normal after day 1.
6:55  Speaker 0:  But I remember I just keep thinking to myself at the end of the 72 hours, like when you're done with something hard, like it's hard, you are just like, I freaking did it, dude. Yeah. There it's hard to explain. You know what mean? And everything in your body is screaming like, no, no, no, don't do that. The best way is Have a donut. Have a burger.
7:14  Speaker 1:  And since like when we're doing, when I'm doing my step work and I had sponsees,
7:18  Speaker 1:  those who know know, right, do it, like I think the things where they gave me the biggest growth were the assignments that the sponsor wouldn't check on. Like, hey, you're gonna go pray every night, right, for
7:30  Speaker 1:  the person you most hate
7:32  Speaker 1:  for them to want to get everything that you want in life. But,
7:36  Speaker 1:  and there's no way for anybody
7:39  Speaker 1:  to check that you did that.
7:41  Speaker 0:  But the fact that you actually doing it and doing it consistently, like they say, nobody's going to know. You do. That's when you know, and that's when you get the most of contentment that we speak of because I had this experience fairly recently where some people that I love, we went through some stuff and man, I was angry and I was never thought I would have a resemblance to the degree where it was hard for me to get past it.
8:03  Speaker 0:  But my sponsor with Jedi sponsor, this says, I want you to pray for them every morning and pray for their success.
8:10  Speaker 0:  And I'm like,
8:11  Speaker 0:  I don't like them.
8:13  Speaker 0:  You know I mean? Like
8:14  Speaker 0:  I did it because I'm disciplined and I would hit my knees and I would pray for them and the success. It was freaking hard for me to get out every day. But like eventually you don't even like, it's not like 1 day you're like content all of a sudden you're just subtly,
8:29  Speaker 0:  have found forgiveness. It's hard to explain. It's rad dude. I mean, if you don't believe in God, I don't know what you're that. I don't know what to tell you. There is a God. Yeah. Right. It makes life a lonely,
8:40  Speaker 1:  rough place
8:42  Speaker 0:  when it doesn't need to be. It doesn't even matter if you call it God or you call it spirituality.
8:47  Speaker 1:  Like And 1 of the biggest things, right? Like I don't care what you call it, but like that just puts you, you now are not the most important thing in the world. Right. If you have a God, it's like, and that is a lot of burden because we all just, right, have this natural instinct to just want to care about me, me, me, me, me. But if we have a God, then we go, all right, hey man, there's something bigger than me and I'm not the most important. And it makes all this stuff a little bit easier. It takes the pressure off. It makes going through a little bit of hard times a bit easier because the most important thing in the world is not
9:18  Speaker 1:  my contentness and like how happy I am at all times. Like
9:24  Speaker 1:  when I 1st got sober, like you're not comfortable
9:26  Speaker 1:  and, you know, you think everybody's looking at you because you're not comfortable in your skin. I remember thinking, I was sitting at this meeting and I looked and I was like, hey, I was like, man, everybody's looking at me, dude. He's like,
9:36  Speaker 0:  the hell makes you so special? And I'm like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. You know, he's like, okay. He had his way of, like, smacking me in the face of the truth, man.
9:44  Speaker 0:  Well, cool, man. So yeah,
9:47  Speaker 1:  wanted to share that a little bit because life is freaking good. Look where we're at. We get a little touch of you guys today and I love it. So we are grateful for all of you, man. Yeah. We read some rad comments from you guys. So we're Yes. Thank you. And life gets us too, man. I for sure get selfish a lot. But luckily, you've done enough work to be able to, like, get myself out of it and right in the midst of chaos. There you go. Even in the midst of chaos, the worst things happen now. I can
10:11  Speaker 1:  sit back and be like, dude. I know. It's really good. Jedi shit. Awesome problems. Alright, big dog, you're up. You start us off. So I will start us off. Number 1, sub warriors, I have a question on finasteride.
10:23  Speaker 1:  What are your thoughts on using finasteride
10:26  Speaker 1:  to battle a acne breakout? I've been reading and it seems that finasteride
10:31  Speaker 1:  is known to help women with acne. In some cases, it's shown to help men. Finasteride is known to help lower DHT and lower inflammation on the prostate, I guess.
10:41  Speaker 1:  It can help battle acne. What are your thoughts? Go Warriors. All right, I have good thoughts 1st. Know a lot of Testosterone about
10:49  Speaker 1:  converts into 2 things, all right? Estrogen
10:52  Speaker 1:  and DHT, dihydrotestosterone.
10:55  Speaker 1:  DHT is interesting. It does a few things. Yes, it swells, it can inflame your prostate.
11:01  Speaker 1:  And there are
11:03  Speaker 1:  Testosterone does this, but a lot of like different steroids that are straight up DHT derivatives, Okay. Like
11:10  Speaker 1:  Primo,
11:11  Speaker 1:  Masteron,
11:12  Speaker 1:  those
11:13  Speaker 1:  will really- Windstraw. Windstraw, those will really, inflame prostate. So it, it, DHT inflates prostate. It also closes up pores. Your hair follicles, well, I think the follicle is the actual strand, but there's a pore around that. Okay? That's why you have high DHC. That's the reason for hair loss. Yeah. Right? Call it like like testosterone related hair loss.
11:35  Speaker 1:  So your pores close-up, hair can't grow. The same thing with your pores and your skin. Okay? Those things close-up,
11:41  Speaker 1:  dirt builds up and it can't get out and that creates acne. No.
11:46  Speaker 1:  Finasteride
11:46  Speaker 1:  is a DHT blocker.
11:49  Speaker 1:  Historically, everybody thinks because that finasteride is the better 1 to take, but I would argue that dutasteride
11:55  Speaker 1:  is the better option.
11:57  Speaker 1:  It has actually less side effects than finasteride and the side effects are not great for a man. I know. Take it it sucks. Like I
12:06  Speaker 1:  have taken it in about 1 mg a day and,
12:09  Speaker 1:  and no sex drive whatsoever. Like after a week of taking this stuff, I just was like, just could care less.
12:16  Speaker 0:  It's
12:18  Speaker 1:  not even like I was horny and then the thing didn't work. It was just like, don't feel like it. And it also gives you that feeling of like,
12:24  Speaker 1:  like a Xanax without euphoria, just like no real good, no emotion.
12:29  Speaker 1:  No, no, no happy, no sad. And if there is no happy that comes,
12:33  Speaker 1:  then you're basically sad.
12:36  Speaker 0:  Think back me overfeeling that. But,
12:39  Speaker 1:  but There's better ways to get rid of the back knee though. A 100%. That does not My guess is that the DHT is not the cause of your back knee. Think the estrogen is. Right. It is a I mean, dude, I don't I mean, 1000 out of thousand times. If we can increase your estrogen blocker,
12:55  Speaker 1:  done try to do your best with anastrozole,
12:58  Speaker 1:  which is Arimidex,
13:00  Speaker 1:  before you move into exemestane, which is aromasin or letrozole,
13:05  Speaker 1:  which is really strong.
13:07  Speaker 1:  Although, exemestane is the strongest. It's the 1 suicidal.
13:10  Speaker 1:  But anyway, go with anastrozole. If we get your estrogen checked, dude, all that hormonal
13:15  Speaker 1:  imbalance is gonna go away and I guarantee that acne and all that dotted outness just goes Quickly.
13:20  Speaker 1:  Very quickly. Very quickly. Yeah, yeah. I will notice it today. I mean,
13:24  Speaker 1:  even, yeah, even today in this day and age, I suppose. Like I know if my estrogen is a little bit elevated, like, damn, I'm getting like a zits here. That's weird. I literally take 1 tonight.
13:34  Speaker 1:  Last night I wake up in the morning and those things have receded down to 10% and they're going to be gone.
13:40  Speaker 1:  But it's
13:42  Speaker 1:  that's what I would check out 100 percent 1st. He doesn't
13:45  Speaker 0:  mention testosterone, I'm assuming that's where he's coming from. But yeah, it's estrogen. A lot of the people don't know, like when I take testosterone, I get acne or I get back acne and whatever.
13:57  Speaker 1:  And they don't like doctors don't even realize that it just it's, it's the estrogen. Absolutely. It's estrogen. That's the most likely cause is estrogen. So historically most people are taking Finasteride like, so I just got the hair transplant, right?
14:11  Speaker 1:  Shout out to my hair MD.
14:14  Speaker 1:  I didn't ever actually say the name of them, but
14:18  Speaker 1:  the odd,
14:19  Speaker 1:  I can anybody, if anybody wants to message in, like I sent a few people there and they've been really happy and everything is working out just fine.
14:27  Speaker 1:  But I'll send you their information. But anyway, they absolutely, they
14:32  Speaker 1:  say, hey, especially because I am on testosterone, even though low dose,
14:36  Speaker 1:  they have told me to take dutasteride,
14:38  Speaker 1:  but mixed with
14:40  Speaker 1:  minoxidil.
14:41  Speaker 1:  Now that has that's only for hair, the minoxidil portion of it. That's not a DHT blocker or anything,
14:48  Speaker 1:  but that's to stimulate a little bit of hair growth. So there there is a dutasteride minoxidil
14:55  Speaker 1:  pill together that you can find out there. So that's what they tell me, but frankly, but if we're just talking about, hey, I'm doing tests and I'm getting back knee,
15:03  Speaker 1:  dutasteride would be the right answer, but the real answer is it's an estrogen problem. I would just increase your estrogen blocker and keep stable. And then the goal is to take as little estrogen blocker as you possibly can without
15:14  Speaker 1:  feeling and seeing any side effects. Side effects are acne, water retention, and gyno sensitivity or
15:21  Speaker 1:  swelling of your nipples. You should not feel any of those and take as little estrogen blockers as you can, where you don't see any of those side effects. Well, it's been interesting,
15:31  Speaker 0:  because there's been a big shift away from anastrozole,
15:35  Speaker 0:  compared to like lately, there's been kind of a lot of doctors are saying like, they don't like it, blah, blah, blah, blah. A lot of people where
15:42  Speaker 0:  it's a big difference when you're talking about like a steroid cycle, that's greatly increasing your STI, your testosterone compared to like a TRT dose.
15:52  Speaker 0:  And that's what generally I think you and I talk about. It's not like we're saying you should take an AI. You think if you need it, if you get back to me, if you get your estrogens, you can do it quickly. You're not going to, you shouldn't be taking it in like any type of longevity. Doctors prescribe it like that. I would hope that they're not anymore.
16:10  Speaker 1:  They're hopefully prescribed, especially like, and basically the amount of estrogen you create is
16:15  Speaker 1:  equal to or has a direct correlation
16:19  Speaker 1:  to the amount of estrogen that comes up. Right? And so if you're on a TRT dose, it's a correct dose. That's a really, like, that's a very small amount. You shouldn't be making a whole bunch of estrogen. No. Okay. And you shouldn't theoretically,
16:31  Speaker 1:  hopefully on TRT, I guess the right thing is to take enough dose where you feel the test, right? It's helping. And And TRT, the goal is not to build muscle. So you shouldn't be taking enough so much testosterone that you're popping muscles out.
16:44  Speaker 1:  That's not the point. You
16:46  Speaker 1:  need estrogen. And you need estrogen. So you shouldn't be taking so much tests where you actually need an estrogen blocker though some people are very sensitive and
16:54  Speaker 1:  you might need it to just calm that down.
16:57  Speaker 1:  But if we are talking about cycle levels, sure as hell absolutely
17:00  Speaker 1:  might need 1. Also,
17:02  Speaker 1:  there is a thing and I've experienced this myself of and people are like, oh, okay, so I'll just take my AI, like right as I take my testosterone. Right? Like, no, no, no. Do not take the AI
17:12  Speaker 1:  if you are not if you don't have elevated estrogen already. Okay? Basically, if you have normal estrogen
17:19  Speaker 1:  and we kill that now, what's your body going to do? It's going go, what the fuck? I need to have that estrogen. And now it's going to work twice as hard creating estrogen and you have literally just shot yourself in the foot. I've done that much to myself. I'm like, the hell? And
17:31  Speaker 1:  the secret was just like, I had to lower my test and just stop the AIs for like 3 weeks and
17:37  Speaker 1:  just let my body reset.
17:40  Speaker 1:  All right. And stop trying to forcefully make a bunch of estrogen.
17:43  Speaker 0:  And then, and it did, and it reset. And then I'm back on it and doing just fine. It takes a little time to like learn that stuff. But again, I mean, I w I was saying when I was working with a lot more guys during the fitness stuff, would have them talk about how the doctor would prescribe them the TRT and the AI
17:59  Speaker 0:  and not really explain it. Like, shouldn't take it if you don't need it. That's silliest the thing ever, but it's like,
18:05  Speaker 0:  no, it was done. Great
18:07  Speaker 1:  day.
18:08  Speaker 0:  All right. Let's see here. Can you discuss in detail
18:11  Speaker 0:  all about reconstitution
18:13  Speaker 0:  and pulling syringes?
18:15  Speaker 0:  What can be mixed?
18:17  Speaker 0:  What can't be mixed?
18:18  Speaker 0:  Can the same needle be used to reconstitute multiple vials at the same time?
18:25  Speaker 0:  The pool amount of backwater to reconstitute 3 different vials of different peptides and say
18:32  Speaker 0:  I have a bottle of Tesamorelin
18:34  Speaker 0:  and a bottle of Ipamorelin,
18:36  Speaker 0:  let's say I already reconstituted.
18:38  Speaker 0:  Can I pull my dose from both in 1 syringe
18:41  Speaker 0:  or do I need to use 2 syringes?
18:44  Speaker 0:  Pretty common question.
18:46  Speaker 0:  I'll jump on this because I've done numerous posts on this.
18:51  Speaker 0:  It depends on how clean you want to be. Now you could switch it. I use the same needle for multiple.
18:58  Speaker 0:  I mean, should even clean the top if you want to be super clean of the bottle.
19:02  Speaker 0:  You know what I mean? That's just how clean are you? I'm not going to even say and lie to you that I'm like, I do that. I don't,
19:08  Speaker 0:  you know, I'd use the same needle for multiple
19:12  Speaker 0:  peptides and I personally put them all in 1 bottle. I do multiple, let's say I'm doing 7 peptides. I know that's a lot, but let's just say I
19:20  Speaker 0:  used to separate HCG
19:22  Speaker 0:  and if I was using a GLP-three, I would separate those because I didn't like to mix those. Now at this point with lots and lots and lots of experience,
19:31  Speaker 0:  I do not notice a difference even in putting those into the same bottle. So I take them all out 1 same syringe to pull out into the same bottle, pull out into the same bottle, pull out into the same bottle. And then I switched the syringe, brand new syringe
19:45  Speaker 0:  to pull out of the bottle, to do the 7 into 1 injection. So that's what I do.
19:52  Speaker 0:  I don't run into any issues. Know Will and I've discussed some
19:56  Speaker 0:  can make things cloudy.
19:59  Speaker 0:  AOD is known to do that. Sometimes I think if you were Mitch HGH, which I still put HGH and all of it, I don't really have a problem with cloudy. I don't know if that's stupid or not, but like, I've just been doing it for so long and it takes a long time in the morning. I'm disciplined, so I do it, but I don't want, I it's been fine. Believe they don't have a problem. I don't have any bumps. I don't have any so that's how I do it. I think you might maybe have a different answer, but maybe not. I don't know. Like, okay. So I think How clean do wanna be? Right. You could be overly clean. Like, what's the most official,
20:28  Speaker 1:  I mean Wipe your butt.
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21:00  Speaker 1:  Beck, answer is to, like,
21:02  Speaker 1:  before you ever stick anything in your body, you wanna wipe yourself with alcohol. Right? Do you do that? No. No. I never have. Never. Never. So, like, what's the real answer? Like, what's the what's the super safe answer that what do I actually do?
21:14  Speaker 1:  I guess they're a lot different and I never had a problem. But
21:18  Speaker 1:  I suppose the official answer is if you use the same needle, okay,
21:22  Speaker 1:  it is okay to go water,
21:25  Speaker 1:  to let that needle touch water
21:27  Speaker 1:  and then into 1 peptide valve, water into another, water into another, because it's not actually touching that peptide, right? It's going into the air inside it. Okay.
21:36  Speaker 1:  That's cool.
21:37  Speaker 1:  So if you want to mix those and use that same needle, great. The official answer is you don't want to let the same needle actually
21:44  Speaker 1:  touch
21:45  Speaker 1:  the multiple
21:46  Speaker 1:  peptides.
21:47  Speaker 1:  1 peptide, 2. I
21:50  Speaker 1:  do.
21:51  Speaker 1:  I don't care. Now, if I had, like they said, if you have Ipamorelin and Tesamorelin, 2 different vials and you want to inject them together,
21:59  Speaker 1:  then
22:00  Speaker 1:  who gets that shit? Then absolutely I would go same, same,
22:03  Speaker 1:  put it in there because those things are going in you. It's like,
22:07  Speaker 1:  you know, peanut peanut butter and jelly sandwich, right? Like, they're
22:10  Speaker 1:  going all into your stomach anyway and they're gonna mix together so it doesn't really matter in the end. But
22:17  Speaker 1:  officially,
22:18  Speaker 1:  you really shouldn't have the same needle touch 1 compound. Ideally. And
22:23  Speaker 1:  another 1 because it could get this compound inside of this, this 1. So
22:28  Speaker 0:  that's true. And it could, and that's possible. I've done it so long for so long and never had a problem.
22:35  Speaker 0:  Again, I think
22:38  Speaker 0:  some people will say just to kind of like do it quicker, you're using the same needle, you pull it out of the Ipamorelin and then you pull it out of the Tesamorelin and just use the same needle. Some people will do that. I'd like to do that. Yeah, I know you've done that. And I mean, I don't just because I don't like the dull needle because I do give, I don't like bumps.
22:56  Speaker 0:  That does give me bumps. So if I'd use the same brand new needle and you know, testosterone too, like if I'm, you know, mixing any type of oil or whatnot, it's a brand new needle every time I inject for me. Different learning of testosterone because those needles are so big. Yeah. There's
23:09  Speaker 1:  always a learn to like just a brand new needle to inject. But I would say brand absolutely brand new. And that is smarter. I will definitely right now it is. I will draw from 1, draw from 2,
23:19  Speaker 0:  and inject. But more than that, if I'm drawing from 5 Right. That is some dull that is a dull ass It will. Right? But then the fact that you you'd notice by even, like, maybe 3 injections by pulling, the needle starts to bend a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know that like Yeah. You don't wanna put needle off inside of you. Yeah. Also, like besides the fact that it's uncomfortable,
23:40  Speaker 1:  it builds scar tissue. Okay? So like a dull needle will build scar tissue and then that scar tissue doesn't absorb anything and will take a place and then that's where you're to get like permanent bumps. Yep. Right? And spots where anybody who's done testosterone for a long time, of old school and use the same needle, like if you're injecting and then oil's coming out of that wound, it's because you basically inject it into scar tissue, it's not absorbing a damn thing and it's just pushing it back out.
24:03  Speaker 1:  And you,
24:04  Speaker 1:  and there's like, you only have a limited
24:08  Speaker 1:  space where you can create scar tissue and just ruin that tissue. So use a brand new 1. Now I will say, do not. There are like,
24:16  Speaker 1:  like AOD water that should just be mixed in AOD. Right? It's got acetic acid, bacteriostatic water,
24:22  Speaker 1:  some other things.
24:25  Speaker 1:  That I just recently ran a bunch of tests on that and every other compound do not ever put acetic acid into anything else besides AOD.
24:33  Speaker 1:  It will ruin the other peptides.
24:36  Speaker 1:  You'll get a peptide and go, what the hell? Why is it just like wispy and like jet, like kind of this gross nasty gel? So
24:43  Speaker 1:  you'd use AOD water for AOD,
24:46  Speaker 1:  nothing else. Right?
24:48  Speaker 1:  I would say for like no, you can use it for SLU-3. You can use it for SLU-one 100, especially like big 30 mg SLU-3.
24:55  Speaker 1:  But anything else you put into any of the GLPs? Goodbye.
24:59  Speaker 1:  No
25:00  Speaker 1:  sting?
25:01  Speaker 1:  Yes. I've ran some bunch of tests. Like it can be put into anything, but besides I wouldn't use it with AOD because you're using AOD water with AOD.
25:10  Speaker 1:  But
25:11  Speaker 1:  no sting has glycerol in there that's really thick. And so people could look at that and be like, why it doesn't look just like water because it's a bit of thicker consistency and that's true. It's not gonna, nothing is wrong, but you might just see it a little bit different.
25:25  Speaker 1:  But I would just stick with backwater for everything besides
25:28  Speaker 1:  AOD and SLUIP. I would AOD water for SLUIP and AOD, and I would use no sting water for GHK. GHK,
25:35  Speaker 1:  glow, clo, NAD.
25:38  Speaker 1:  Just, just, just if they burn, don't use it if it doesn't burn. There's no point. Right?
25:42  Speaker 1:  Use other ones. So there it is person.
25:46  Speaker 1:  I don't know. You can be as conservative as you want. Everybody's
25:49  Speaker 0:  a little different.
25:50  Speaker 1:  It's all good. We believe. I think it would so for me
25:54  Speaker 0:  When you do it long enough, you start to kinda Yeah. Cut a little bit of corners. Like, you get cleaner 1st. Mhmm. Like, you have a 1st baby, like, you're like, oh my gosh. And then, like, 3rd baby, like, oh, he's fine. Throw him in the Throw him in truck. Yeah. Okay.
26:06  Speaker 1:  Number 3. So I loved hearing about DSIP,
26:09  Speaker 1:  Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide,
26:11  Speaker 1:  but missed the dosing recommendations. Is it Sub Q injection or a capsule?
26:16  Speaker 1:  Thanks. Also, while I'd love to travel someplace long enough to be able to bring unreconstituted
26:22  Speaker 1:  peptides, I've usually only gone 3 to 4 nights max and I tend to buy larger doses of peptides to save money, right? So would hate to have to lose, have to toss any.
26:31  Speaker 1:  I know you guys,
26:33  Speaker 1:  you're going to offer some kind of cold pack for travel. Is that available yet? Ideally, it would hold at least 3 vials without being too bulky because I almost always have to travel carry on only. Thanks again. Well,
26:43  Speaker 1:  lucky you, we brought a visual aid here. We did.
26:48  Speaker 1:  About that? Drum roll. So there is this option. This is like an FDA approved really like insulin carrying kit, but tells you the temperature,
26:57  Speaker 1:  okay, inside, comes with
27:00  Speaker 1:  not 1 but 2
27:02  Speaker 1:  ice packs that you will keep cold, right? You'll freeze them, put them in here. It has
27:07  Speaker 1:  little pouch.
27:09  Speaker 1:  This will fit
27:11  Speaker 1:  plenty.
27:12  Speaker 1:  But you can probably stuff 40 peptides in here and 20 syringes if you want to. So it's got, it has plenty,
27:22  Speaker 1:  got this
27:23  Speaker 0:  really tough looking logo and it is ready and that's the way to do it. So you can feel free to mix your peptides and bring them with you. Okay.
27:31  Speaker 0:  Mean, that's probably most do the mix. I started learning that through the grapevine. I don't even remember how I even kind of thought through that, but
27:39  Speaker 0:  what I think a lot of neat people need to realize, like, I don't always go for long periods. So if I go for like 3 days,
27:44  Speaker 1:  I wait and mix them there, but I still bring them back. I don't leave them, don't use them all. Yeah, but there is the potential, like, I guess early on, right, when we were even learning about this stuff years ago,
27:56  Speaker 1:  that was a concern, right? Like, certain ways we were like, damn, they can't really How far out? They can't
28:01  Speaker 1:  how many hours can they be
28:04  Speaker 1:  be, warmed up? How do you think? How long do you think? What would you say? Because it's somewhat of a Well, right now, it totally depends on the peptide, but I would say that- How hot is it? Even how hot is it? Right? You just really don't want to get get them really hot. Like room temp and
28:18  Speaker 1:  cool dark place room temp, frankly, they will just, they'll be just fine and last a long time. Some of them are more sensitive than others, some really aren't. Aren't.
28:26  Speaker 1:  But I would say anywhere between, I don't know, 12 hours of room temp is
28:32  Speaker 1:  just totally fine. Insurers aren't going to help you. Like if you lose a little bit of efficacy right there, just don't do it all the time.
28:39  Speaker 1:  If you leave your peptide out overnight,
28:41  Speaker 1:  not in the fridge, do not go home and throw it away. Use it, use it. It's not going to hurt you. I would. Yeah. Also
28:48  Speaker 1:  another visual aid, like here's a, someone's, people have always asked like, how do you find a good peptide company? Here's 1 sign. So this is like, this isn't ice pack. Any
28:59  Speaker 1:  good peptide company is going to ship their bottles unmixed,
29:02  Speaker 1:  even unmixed
29:04  Speaker 1:  with
29:05  Speaker 1:  a ice pack in there to just preserve the actual temperature
29:10  Speaker 1:  of the peptide. Because even unmixed, they can't get too hot. Right? The whole point of putting an ice pack in there isn't to keep it refrigerator
29:18  Speaker 1:  cold, but it's prevent because it's going to
29:21  Speaker 1:  melt, right? Like in transit, but this at least will keep it cool from ever getting to that high temperatures where it's going to damage it. Right? And if your company is putting these in, this means they care. They know that you are spending a lot of money on these peptides and you probably want them to work at their full efficacy.
29:37  Speaker 0:  So it's also expensive. So that company is doing that. They care about you. They're spending money to care about They're not even mixed. And you have some of those people that have, because there's been a lot of questions that have come through here about people buying them mixed
29:49  Speaker 0:  and then they get shipped. Think about how long they get shipped. So, you know, we're not here to knock about knock any companies. We don't really care what you do, your grownups, but I would strongly recommend you don't buy it from a company that has the bottles mixed and then they ship it because they're not going to be cold. They're not gonna be
30:06  Speaker 0:  you go to a degree we're like. And
30:08  Speaker 1:  it's just an easier sales pitch, right? Because it's hard to
30:11  Speaker 0:  mix. It ain't working.
30:13  Speaker 1:  I wouldn't do that. Alright.
30:16  Speaker 1:  Let's see. Oh, DSIP. So dosing of the DSIP, I personally, I do, I fill about a 10 mg bottle with 1 mil of water. And I do, I'm a big guy though, 10 to 20 units,
30:29  Speaker 1:  45 minutes to 60 minutes before I go to sleep. So if you have a 10 mg
30:35  Speaker 1:  bottle,
30:36  Speaker 1:  I mix it with 1 mil of water and I do 10 units. That is 1 mg dose. If
30:42  Speaker 1:  20 units is 2 mg.
30:44  Speaker 1:  I'm a big guy. I can handle it. I'd start it at 10, but like, remember,
30:48  Speaker 1:  it doesn't make you just drool on yourself and pass out. Right? It just puts
30:52  Speaker 1:  several different neurotransmitters in this relaxed mode. So frankly, decent you could take it morning time
31:00  Speaker 1:  and not just like ruin your day. You absolutely could. It just is going to night like give you, just make you kind of really calm. It doesn't put you to sleep. It just puts all of your brain in that position to be asleep. Then when you do fall asleep, you get in that real restful REM sleep. Yeah. DSIPs around.
31:15  Speaker 0:  I use it almost nightly just because I think it's great. I don't sleep well. So oftentimes I go to sleep at like 09:30 and then wake up at 2. I don't know why that is, but it just is what it is. Sometimes I get up, sometimes I don't. But I, the reason I say that is because
31:30  Speaker 0:  I know that when I take this, it gets me into that REM sleep quickly because I feel more rested
31:35  Speaker 0:  when I'm not. I do 2 mills and
31:37  Speaker 0:  I do 20 units, same math. So that's the same as 1 mill, 10 units. I've just done it that. So that's what I do. So he's doing 1 mg. I'm saying 1 mg to 2 mg. Yeah. Every once in a while, if I'm like, knew, I think I need to sleep real well. I do,
31:52  Speaker 0:  you know, 30 units was like a mega and 0.5. Yeah. That's about it. That works well. So yeah, do you subscribe?
32:00  Speaker 0:  You haven't tried it and you have problems sleeping? It does help, man. You know that REM sleep.
32:05  Speaker 0:  All right. Hey guys, thanks for all you do. I have a few random questions.
32:09  Speaker 0:  I just bought the Glutox serum.
32:11  Speaker 0:  Is this best kept refrigerated?
32:14  Speaker 0:  Great question. How often can I use this on my face? Does it expire? Great question.
32:20  Speaker 0:  Also bought
32:22  Speaker 0:  Saloop
32:23  Speaker 0:  PP-three 32.
32:24  Speaker 0:  Should the tablets be kept refrigerated?
32:27  Speaker 0:  All great questions. I'm sorry. Prize we didn't hear about that.
32:29  Speaker 0:  Do the tablets have a similar expiration as reconstituted
32:33  Speaker 0:  peptides?
32:34  Speaker 0:  What are your guys' thoughts on low dose Naltrexone
32:38  Speaker 0:  for resetting receptors sensitivity?
32:40  Speaker 0:  Yeah,
32:42  Speaker 0:  I'll jump on that in regards to the
32:46  Speaker 1:  Glutox,
32:47  Speaker 0:  in my opinion, it doesn't have to be refrigerated. We suggested I'm taking it right now because you guys have probably been seeing, I've been, I just had a laser facial, so I've been taking it every day. I mean, I was going to do a post today. I mean, my face is always just kind of red, I think. I
33:02  Speaker 0:  don't know why, but like, I'm not joking. It's been 4 days and my face is almost healed and it usually takes 9 days.
33:07  Speaker 0:  Isn't a sales play. It freaking works, man. It's GHK-1s):
33:13  Speaker 0:  it's like, like I'm already almost healed. And like, you saw somebody that got the same
33:19  Speaker 0:  face,
33:21  Speaker 0:  thing you would, it would, there, it takes them to like 7 days minimum. So my face is almost already healed. It works. Now
33:27  Speaker 0:  I say that because I put it in the fridge because when you're, when you're kind of scraped up, it feels good. It's cold. So it doesn't need to be refrigerated. It feels better when it's in the cold, when you put it on it.
33:37  Speaker 0:  Now if you didn't have a laser facial,
33:41  Speaker 0:  my bride and your girlfriend kind of like instructed us how to do this. You do the microderm
33:47  Speaker 0:  abrasion and so what it's called. Yeah, I always forget that name. And then you put that on your face 3 times a week is generally what I've been doing and it opens up your pores, opens it up and then you rub it in there.
33:58  Speaker 0:  Okay. So that's what you do 3 times a week. Now,
34:01  Speaker 0:  depending on your pocketbook, can you use it every night? Of course, I wouldn't do the microdermer thing every night, 3 times a week. And then I do, I do do that every night because it does work well. And then I do put some lotion on it after because it does dry it out a little bit, But that's what I do in regards to the SLU- pills, no, you don't need to be refrigerated.
34:21  Speaker 0:  If you're talking about the sublingual, I keep them right at my desk.
34:27  Speaker 0:  Reconstitution,
34:28  Speaker 1:  I think that's it, right? Did I get it? Naltrexone, but I'll kind of cover that 1 if you need. So
34:33  Speaker 1:  yeah, I 2nd everything you just said about the serum. I frankly use it every day like a face lotion.
34:39  Speaker 1:  Okay?
34:40  Speaker 1:  And that is what it is. And how much? Like I put, a I bigger face than most, I don't know,
34:47  Speaker 1:  but I put 2 pumps. That is fine.
34:50  Speaker 1:  Face like neck.
34:51  Speaker 1:  You know, here's 1 thing is, do you want to know how to really judge someone's age? Look at their neck skin,
34:59  Speaker 1:  right? So that's
35:00  Speaker 1:  the 1st thing that gets dried out and starts looking old. All right. So
35:06  Speaker 1:  put lotion in your neck more.
35:08  Speaker 0:  I've never done that.
35:10  Speaker 1:  You will not look as old. Right? Girls, women get like wrinkles. You know, you see these creases here? As soon as they smoke. That's a sign. Same as smoking. Right? Smoking, any nicotine, right, deoxygenates
35:20  Speaker 1:  your blood. Yep. Therefore, your skin wrinkles faster. Yeah. Okay? Because it's just not as healthy. You're not getting as much blood to the skin, okay? Which BPC
35:30  Speaker 1:  is just forces
35:32  Speaker 1:  angiogenesis,
35:32  Speaker 1:  which is more blood vessels to the skin.
35:35  Speaker 1:  So does GHK,
35:37  Speaker 1:  CU, and these all, that's why all these things can make look
35:40  Speaker 1:  younger.
35:42  Speaker 1:  I guess the SLU-3D- definitely
35:44  Speaker 1:  no refrigeration,
35:46  Speaker 1:  right? Things- Injectables, yes. The SLU-3D injectable, a 100% for sure, refrigerate it, but the SLU-3D tabs, don't need to. The shelf life on those tablets is a lot longer than any peptide, any injectable peptide. The big thing in the SLU-2Tabs, what you don't want to do is like give moisture in it because they're pressed pills. There
36:03  Speaker 1:  are pressed pills with no coating.
36:06  Speaker 1:  Coating
36:06  Speaker 1:  makes it so a pressed pill doesn't break up, right? You were to pour water into the SLU pills, they will turn into mush.
36:13  Speaker 1:  So you don't want to let any moisture get in there.
36:17  Speaker 1:  But even if it turns into mush, you still can use it and it'll work perfect.
36:21  Speaker 1:  And then that, you know, I don't know, naltrexone is
36:25  Speaker 1:  a for the right person. Never done you. I have not for weight loss. I've done a lot of Naltrexone in my life
36:32  Speaker 1:  because I've been addicted to opiates.
36:34  Speaker 1:  I've had
36:35  Speaker 1:  4
36:37  Speaker 1:  Naltrexone
36:38  Speaker 1:  injections in my glutes and oh my God, that 1 hurts, right? Feels like they are injecting sand
36:44  Speaker 1:  into you. I've had 3
36:47  Speaker 1:  pellets, right? They
36:49  Speaker 1:  sew a pellet into you and it gives off naltrexone for like 3, 4 months. The 2nd 1 I got, I got tired of having it in there and I took my utility knife and I cut it out of myself.
36:59  Speaker 1:  Don't do that either, but you know those are dark times when I just like, yeah, right, like I just could not be okay with
37:07  Speaker 1:  not being high, that sucks. So don't do that ever. I never got paid for doing any of those either.
37:12  Speaker 1:  I was actually the 1st person in the state of Washington to ever get 1 of those naltrexone pellets. I had my doc I told my doctor like, because California started it. And I told my doctor like, Hey, I know they're doing this. I've flown down to La Mirada
37:23  Speaker 1:  and gotten 1 before. Can you please order 1? She's like, all right.
37:28  Speaker 1:  Yeah.
37:29  Speaker 1:  So then I cut it out of my roof after
37:32  Speaker 1:  it was all healed up anyway.
37:34  Speaker 1:  Okay. Naltrexone
37:37  Speaker 1:  is
37:37  Speaker 1:  good for so Naltrexone, for people like me, it actually like helps with cravings. And so a lot of people for appetite things take it for
37:45  Speaker 1:  to reduce cravings for anything. Right? And and we crave anything that spikes our dopamine,
37:50  Speaker 1:  food, drugs, etcetera. Now
37:53  Speaker 1:  I guess it doesn't really reset your receptors, but it kind of increases
37:57  Speaker 1:  your receptor signaling
37:59  Speaker 1:  efficiency.
38:01  Speaker 1:  And
38:03  Speaker 1:  as a neuro kind of receptor,
38:06  Speaker 1:  it'll increase the signaling there a little bit
38:10  Speaker 1:  for the right person.
38:12  Speaker 1:  I would I
38:14  Speaker 1:  would say, not everybody just go out and get this. It's going be hard for you to get naltrexone anyway. It's a prescription drug. So,
38:21  Speaker 1:  but maybe start with small doses. If you're the right person, and if it works, if it works great for you, then then awesome.
38:27  Speaker 1:  But I don't know. I wouldn't say everybody just madly go out and it's some like magical cure.
38:34  Speaker 1:  You are oh, no. I am I'm Thank you.
38:37  Speaker 1:  Hey, guys. No. Am I on fire? Last 1. Sup, Warriors? Is there any reason why adipotide
38:44  Speaker 1:  and thymalin
38:45  Speaker 1:  are not popular? From what I read, they do amazing things for cancer and immune issues. I'm guessing Pharm doesn't want to cure issues.
38:53  Speaker 1:  They want to mark up the insurance companies and your wallet.
38:58  Speaker 1:  There is truth to that.
39:00  Speaker 1:  Don't get me started. Yeah. No. Don't
39:03  Speaker 1:  I'll spare you. Your wallet. Right. It feels like, oh, no. I did it adamotide. We I absolutely took a hard look at that 1 for a while, when getting it in the there is
39:12  Speaker 1:  it's really harsh on the body and it's not It has benefits for sure. It's got like a cool benefits, but there's also some really scary
39:20  Speaker 1:  reporting as an actual use cases where it's like
39:24  Speaker 1:  shutting down your liver. That
39:26  Speaker 1:  scares me.
39:28  Speaker 1:  Yeah. Don't want to do that. And I don't want to give it to anybody that- There's other stuff might happen, but it's easy. It's also really rough on the body. And so like, that is why it is not popular.
39:35  Speaker 1:  Although it may do a lot of good things, it does
39:38  Speaker 1:  strikes me as it does worse things
39:41  Speaker 1:  than the good things. The thymosin comes from that same, like it works on the same like
39:47  Speaker 1:  thymus gland,
39:49  Speaker 1:  right? Same with, well, TB-five 100 thymosin
39:52  Speaker 1:  alpha.
39:54  Speaker 1:  Although thymosin is a bioregulator,
39:56  Speaker 1:  so it's a very short chain of amino acids and is
39:59  Speaker 1:  really just a very And usually those are weaker as far as overall
40:04  Speaker 1:  actual effect.
40:06  Speaker 1:  It is there just to regulate
40:09  Speaker 1:  your immune system. So it is going to signal and say, Hey, immune system, no matter what, let's just go back to normal.
40:16  Speaker 1:  Whereas
40:17  Speaker 1:  thymosin alpha is a activator of your immune system, right? And so that basically is like a controlled thermostat where it could flood you a T cell, Treg cells,
40:28  Speaker 1:  which will say, Hey, overactive immune system? Slow
40:32  Speaker 1:  it down. Hey,
40:33  Speaker 1:  beat up immune system? Guys, let's hyper boost it. Whereas the bio regulator is not going to hyper boost anything. It's only going to bring it down
40:40  Speaker 1:  to
40:41  Speaker 1:  regular. That's
40:43  Speaker 1:  oversimplified,
40:44  Speaker 1:  but there you go. And so why is it not that popular? Because Thymosin Alpha is better. I would I wouldn't option. Why do it? Yeah. Why do it? It's also a really old drug, and it's really cheap.
40:54  Speaker 1:  And really old and cheap does not make good business models for big pharma.
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41:30  Speaker 1:  Right? Really hard to, patent because
41:34  Speaker 1:  it's it's there and there's just not a big markup on it because it's cheap. So I think this this 1 is less of a conspiracy theory and more of just an economic
41:43  Speaker 0:  issue of why it's not popular. I've done some reading on it. It's kind of big in Russia, which a lot of peptides are big in Russia.
41:51  Speaker 0:  I did some studying on the Thymalon just because I had heard a podcast on it, so I was intrigued by it. But as Will said, you have Thymosin Alpha-one that's a better, it's a, you know, just a better compound. So why would you do something that's weaker if you can do something that's more powerful?
42:07  Speaker 0:  Adipitide.
42:12  Speaker 0:  Some of the cool thing about like Will and I, like, 1 of us will be like, Hey, have you heard about this? Or usually it's me, Hey, have you heard about this? And he already has usually and like, we'll kind of talk through it. We're like, yeah, because
42:22  Speaker 0:  it's,
42:23  Speaker 0:  here's some of the negatives. So sometimes we're like thinking through if it's something that we should dig into and
42:28  Speaker 0:  get and all that stuff. And there's been a few that we've lagged on getting, I think, compared to some companies because
42:35  Speaker 0:  we try to air on the side of just caution for obvious reasons.
42:39  Speaker 0:  So
42:40  Speaker 1:  that's 1 the reasons that we've left that 1 alone. But we've talked about a lot of this. People ask me all the time, well, why don't you make, okay, so DSIP, right? Like why can't it be like, why don't you have a pill? Right? DSIP is not good for pills. Sorry folks.
42:51  Speaker 1:  It's just your body, your stomach acids or whatever,
42:55  Speaker 1:  just kill most of the drug before it ever gets to you. Same reason we don't make most
43:00  Speaker 1:  things into pills because they're just, they just don't work and we're not going to sell junk. Not
43:07  Speaker 0:  that we sell- It takes a long time to get around even to the BPC-157
43:09  Speaker 0:  pills, even though this work
46:06  Speaker 0:  it worked. And I was ready. I'd never even stopped lifting. I went real light and real slow,
46:11  Speaker 0:  but every once in a while I aggravated again and I just
46:15  Speaker 0:  blast it. I blast it for 2, maybe 3 days with higher dose
46:19  Speaker 0:  and it works for me. That's when I do it. So kind of a cruising blast. Like I run it generally
46:26  Speaker 0:  every day, lower dose,
46:28  Speaker 0:  shoulder, shoulder, back,
46:30  Speaker 0:  chest.
46:31  Speaker 0:  Now, if I feel pain, I do heavier dosages and that's what works for me. Do I think that's going to be the recipe for everybody? No. There might be better ways to do it, but when I have pain, I do more when I just for just to stay away from pain, I just do it consistently
46:47  Speaker 0:  like, you know, 10 units like a MIG, what is that a MIG a
46:51  Speaker 0:  day? And that's it. It on how much. Yeah, 10. So, but like, I think that works for me.
46:57  Speaker 1:  So I don't think there's an exact answer on this. No, I don't hear you're right. I don't, I don't think there's a really right answer, but here's my answer. I
47:05  Speaker 1:  think that if we are going for maintenance,
47:08  Speaker 1:  right? So if you're just going for like inflammation,
47:11  Speaker 1:  let's heal a bunch of injuries or like nagging little injuries, you're riding heavily, I know that's rough on your body. I think that the more consistent,
47:20  Speaker 1:  smaller dose approach is the better 1. And I would say daily, if not every other day, I still think daily is better. Okay?
47:27  Speaker 1:  So if
47:29  Speaker 1:  we have an absolute acute injury,
47:32  Speaker 1:  then we need to go
47:34  Speaker 1:  a higher, higher dose aggressive and inject at the point of injury. And
47:39  Speaker 0:  run that till that injury is gone. Higher dose. Usually works really good too. If you're doing it consistently on a daily basis, I have found when you do have flare ups and you blast it for like 3 days, maybe it really brings it down. It does. It's compounding
47:54  Speaker 0:  daily. So
47:55  Speaker 0:  it definitely works. There's my, yep. That was my answer. Keep going. I think we got it. Okay. You're up. One's all right. So I need help and listen to every show. You guys seem to know your stuff. Been on TRT since June.
48:10  Speaker 0:  I do 0.5 twice a week. I have developed a libido issue
48:15  Speaker 0:  and I don't know what is going on. And honestly, it's really making it worse
48:19  Speaker 0:  as it goes on. My doctor prescribed me Cialis, which does nothing for me. I get erections through the night and wake up in the morning with morning blood,
48:29  Speaker 0:  but
48:31  Speaker 0:  when the time comes, I'm all revved up and ready to go. But when I start the erection goes away. I've asked online TRT community, don't do that.
48:40  Speaker 0:  And I will get,
48:42  Speaker 0:  and I will get what I find is I get a new wife or try her sister out. Stupid.
48:48  Speaker 0:  They're silly. Does them. I need help, please.
48:51  Speaker 0:  My doctor isn't a big estrogen guy.
48:54  Speaker 0:  I asked to have it tested,
48:56  Speaker 0:  but he says it's not needed. That is insane.
48:59  Speaker 0:  I can't even believe that I'm even reading this with what my numbers are showing. Get a new doctor. Yeah.
49:05  Speaker 0:  Blood work 3 times a week ago, test was 8 68 free tests, 22,
49:11  Speaker 0:  free 2.6,
49:13  Speaker 0:  SHBG
49:14  Speaker 0:  25.4,
49:17  Speaker 0:  numbers are showing blood work. Wait, Oh, I've tried PT-one hundred 41 as well. Same issue. It gets me to full go, but fell at the start. I've lost weight 2 43 down to 2 16. Good for you With Retatrutide
49:32  Speaker 0:  20 units, twice a week, 2 Migs,
49:34  Speaker 0:  Tesa Ipah blend 15 units nightly with TRT.
49:38  Speaker 0:  The weight loss was from October to Christmas workout 3 times per week,
49:43  Speaker 0:  not a stressful person to don't drink nor smoke. It's making it hard with Mrs.
49:49  Speaker 0:  The Mrs. And me fast daily for 16 to 20 hours. Sounds like he's a thorough dude. Kind of thought through this. You want me to take this? You want go ahead, but I will also have some answers and questions.
50:01  Speaker 0:  1st and foremost, I
50:03  Speaker 0:  kind of answered it out of reading because it just frustrated me when I was reading it. If your doctor doesn't want to run your estrogen, find another doctor. I mean, that's just silly. That's just the answers a lot of the questions there. Now, you know, we've talked with numerous doctors and there's going be a wide range of what your estrogen should be, what your free testosterone should be, what your total testosterone should be. We are a science project. How do you feel now? You're not working down there. Now,
50:27  Speaker 0:  the 1st thing that jumped out at me is some of it seems like a psychological, right? When you start to
50:33  Speaker 0:  think it ain't going to work, that is a stressful thing. Like you're supposed to have some love with your bride and she's like, you know, looking at you and it ain't working. Sucks.
50:43  Speaker 0:  I'm imagining we've all been there, even if it's when we were drinking or not, we've been there and it sucks. So that is stressful. Would imagine that has to do with some of it, but
50:52  Speaker 0:  you need to know your numbers. You need to know what your estrogen is. I'm going say it again because it needs to be said. If your doctor doesn't run your estrogen, find another doctor. If your doctor just runs
51:03  Speaker 0:  total testosterone and not anything else, find another doctor. If he's got some ego, they can't do anything. That's stupid. Like, why would you just want to know what testosterone levels is? It's like the free testosterone is where you get a lot of your energy, sex drive, things like that. Like they all kind of cohesively work together.
51:18  Speaker 0:  And just because my levels, I like to be at like 9
51:22  Speaker 0:  45 free testosterone
51:24  Speaker 0:  estrogen,
51:25  Speaker 0:  I don't know, 40
51:27  Speaker 0:  ish.
51:28  Speaker 0:  I've talked to, you know, Doctor. Scott, his levels, he likes them very different. We have another Doctor. Stanley coming on with he and I have talked recently and his levels, I'll let him say what they are, are a lot higher than I've expected, but we are science projects,
51:41  Speaker 0:  And like if he runs better and he feels better and his sex drive works better and he, you know what I mean? Like, these
51:48  Speaker 0:  things take time and you sometimes
51:51  Speaker 0:  you need to find the right doctors that know what they're doing. I mean, and that there's
51:58  Speaker 0:  a lot of MDs that don't when it comes to hormones and things like that. A lot of them unfortunately are taught to prescribe
52:04  Speaker 0:  and that's what they know and they don't continue on the education
52:08  Speaker 0:  in learning that
52:09  Speaker 0:  type of stuff. So there are really good doctors. You've seen Doctor. Scott on here. He spent the time to get better and better and better and learn and learn. And we all should be doing that, man. If your doctor's not doing that, find a different doctor. God means
52:24  Speaker 1:  what do you got? Okay. So I think there's this requires some questions. And 1st of all, like, dude, I feel for you. I think that we've all been there and JD's right about the psychological thing. It's crazy. Right? Like, sure.
52:36  Speaker 1:  Because because because why do we think it's psychological? Because you're physically capable of getting your attention, right, like in the morning. And then then when it comes down to it, and I know why people are saying, well, try your sister out. Right? Like, that's kind of a dick thing to say or really to do.
52:51  Speaker 1:  But
52:52  Speaker 1:  like what they're saying is maybe she doesn't do it for you, but you married her and,
52:56  Speaker 1:  I don't think that that's probably the issue, right? Because it sure sounds like you were doing fine earlier in your life with her.
53:02  Speaker 1:  And I don't think she makes you nervous, right? That can happen, but right. When 1 thing doesn't work, you're like, oh shoot, hope it works. And then that just leads into it not working. Yeah.
53:12  Speaker 1:  So, but here are the questions.
53:15  Speaker 1:  Estrogen, I think estrogen is probably the number 1 thing that we need to check. That's probably the number 1 culprit. And
53:22  Speaker 1:  I just 2nd everything else that JD said, if you have a doctor, it sounds like, it sounds like this 1, the doctor's got too much ego
53:29  Speaker 1:  to do the check. Whereas does he I think he knows, but he's like, no, it isn't that. But like a doctor should go, well, maybe it is.
53:37  Speaker 1:  Who knows? Because that, I mean, there's pretty obvious culprit. He's just got too much ego. Like here he knows.
53:43  Speaker 1:  Knowing you know is a problem always.
53:46  Speaker 1:  True that bro. You know what I'm saying? Anyway,
53:48  Speaker 1:  whatever the reason is,
53:50  Speaker 1:  I 2nd everything you said.
53:52  Speaker 1:  I
53:53  Speaker 1:  would take a look at your injection frequency.
53:56  Speaker 1:  All right. I would, if you're going once a week, if you're going once every 2 weeks, heaven forbid,
54:02  Speaker 1:  that will absolutely throw a whole bunch of hormones off. Okay. So
54:06  Speaker 1:  I would,
54:08  Speaker 1:  I mean, I guess tell us, yeah, how often you are, but Hey, go to daily,
54:12  Speaker 1:  split those, whatever the amount you're doing,
54:14  Speaker 1:  frigging inject daily of that. Just divide that by 7 and do injections. That will help
54:19  Speaker 1:  even things out.
54:21  Speaker 1:  You said your free test.
54:24  Speaker 0:  22. 22.
54:26  Speaker 1:  So you're It's pretty low. You gave us a reading of your SHBG,
54:29  Speaker 1:  right? Your sex hormone bonding, sex hormone binding globulin essentially like we have receptors,
54:34  Speaker 1:  we have androgen receptors, we do testosterone and other engines, they stick to this and once they stick to that, then it works. Right? Then our body actually feels it. SHBG
54:44  Speaker 1:  goes here and essentially like
54:46  Speaker 1:  covers this androgen receptor, and when androgens try to attach,
54:51  Speaker 1:  they just bounce off.
54:54  Speaker 1:  Then this, so they don't really work and therefore we're not getting free testosterone,
54:58  Speaker 1:  right? We're getting all this extra like total, but it ain't connecting.
55:02  Speaker 1:  That's part of the reason why somebody would want to take Provirin, right? Everybody thinks, hey, Provirin enhances everything. Why does it enhance everything? Provirin goes here and strips
55:09  Speaker 1:  the SHBG
55:10  Speaker 1:  off. Now everything that you're taking whack sticks and works way better. That was good. So but you've
55:16  Speaker 1:  but I don't know. Your free test doesn't look too bad. SHBG,
55:21  Speaker 1:  is important off the top of my head. I'm sorry, but I don't what 25.4
55:26  Speaker 1:  is if that's high or low.
55:29  Speaker 1:  But we want that to be low. SHBG,
55:32  Speaker 1:  Okay.
55:33  Speaker 1:  The other so injection frequency,
55:35  Speaker 1:  make sure SHBG
55:37  Speaker 1:  is low.
55:40  Speaker 1:  Prolactant, are you taking HCG?
55:42  Speaker 1:  There's a question. Okay. HCG
55:45  Speaker 1:  can increase estrogen because it's increasing your gonad output. It can also increase prolactin. If this stuff sure sounds like a prolactin issue, if you ask me. This is what people get with like decadick or trendick. Right? They take trend. They're horny. It works,
56:00  Speaker 1:  but doesn't stay erect. Right? So I would check the prolactin levels. Yeah. And
56:06  Speaker 1:  frankly, whatever you blood test, I maybe differ from a lot of people, but I want to know how you feel. And I would still forget what the blood even says. Try something and because 1 reading might be perfect
56:19  Speaker 1:  for somebody, but that same number
56:21  Speaker 1:  could not be good for another person. So here's the things like to into your SHBG,
56:27  Speaker 1:  here's the drugs to fix things,
56:29  Speaker 1:  lower SHBG,
56:30  Speaker 1:  right? Take a, what did I just say? Provirin works. It is an anabolic steroid. It's a very mild 1.
56:37  Speaker 1:  Provirin.
56:38  Speaker 1:  So, but prolactin
56:40  Speaker 1:  cabergoline
56:42  Speaker 1:  cabergoline,
56:43  Speaker 1:  it's a dopamine agonist, but that kills off your prolactin. And prolactin is what causes
56:48  Speaker 1:  trendy, decadick and kind of sounds like that, to be honest, it kind of sounds like that. So I would try taking prolactin,
56:56  Speaker 1:  manage estrogen. But the biggest thing it's like, when you take tests, it does amp up our like sympathetic
57:01  Speaker 1:  nervous system,
57:03  Speaker 1:  which is where we just, we don't have any effect over that. We don't really know that it is, but it's kind of amping us up and all of that amp up or too much caffeine, right? Anything that's kind of boosting, like making your nervous system hyperactive
57:17  Speaker 1:  is going to, well, caffeine reduces blood flow by the way.
57:21  Speaker 1:  So it restricts all your vessels and
57:24  Speaker 1:  erections are blood.
57:26  Speaker 1:  Drop
57:27  Speaker 1:  the caffeine, but I would just relax.
57:29  Speaker 1:  Yeah. 1 of the best drugs that I know of for
57:32  Speaker 1:  relaxing CMAG,
57:33  Speaker 1:  well, Selank. I would do Selank. Selank would get it up, but I would really heavily go C-, Selank.
57:39  Speaker 1:  Another 1 that isn't a peptide or anything you might be kind of hard to get is Phenibut.
57:44  Speaker 1:  Phenibut actually kind of kicks ass for sexual issues. It makes things just relax down there and your brain relax. You just chill.
57:52  Speaker 1:  And I don't know, use the secret.
57:54  Speaker 1:  Just know that it's going to happen
57:57  Speaker 1:  without a doubt. Well,
57:58  Speaker 0:  because like, think about it. It works. You said it. So it's gotta be some connection of your head not working into like your doctor hasn't run your estrogen. If your estrogen is too high, it could diminish your sex drive. Your estrogen is too low, can diminish your sex drive. The fact that he doesn't want to know what it is is stupid. It's stupid. It's absolutely
58:15  Speaker 1:  like stupid. So get it in the doctor. If you feel like, if you want to DM us and maybe ask where to get any of those things that I said, if you don't know, ask. Yeah.
58:24  Speaker 0:  Who's that? Me or you? Thank you. I think I read that.
58:28  Speaker 1:  Ah, yes,
58:30  Speaker 1:  dude. Yeah, actually, sorry. Thank you. Thank you there producer behind the camera. Thank you, Jesus, that you're somewhere.
58:37  Speaker 1:  So there
58:39  Speaker 1:  is a dope nasal spray that works called love potion, Cmax, C like oxytocin.
58:46  Speaker 1:  Don't know. Yeah. We're just not thinking that oxytocin
58:48  Speaker 1:  is the love drug that helped, but it also has a very calming effect. Right? And so that was all Selank,
58:54  Speaker 1:  Cmax,
58:55  Speaker 1:  oxytocin, and PT-one hundred 41 all mixed together in a nasal spray.
59:00  Speaker 0:  That's like the weekend that lock your, you and your wife in your hotel room for a weekend. Yeah, you know what you should do too, if you're taking Cialis, but if you're taking Cialis, like to get ready, you should be taking like 5 mg of Cialis daily because it's gonna, 1, be great for your lips. Like, I do it every day because it's just great for lips and blood flow and blah blah blah. Lips? So, lifts. Lips.
59:22  Speaker 0:  Like, like, blood flow and lifts.
59:24  Speaker 0:  But you should try that to where it's not you're only just taking it before because I think it's a head problem.
59:30  Speaker 0:  And so if you're taking it like daily 5 mg per day, it compounds it builds and you get blood flow. Always. And yeah, it's weird that the Cialis doesn't work. Yeah, because of caffeine that restricts any stimulants,
59:42  Speaker 0:  restrict blood vessels. Right? It's like The PT-one hundred 41 don't work? 141 doesn't work? Shit. No. It does. Walking around for days. Right. No. He said it works, but it then,
59:52  Speaker 1:  it gets you full go, but fail but fail have the start. Like, damn, dude. It sure sounds like a head thing, but I know that's what you don't want. So what you need is relax, is relax. Relax. Relax. Yes.
1:00:05  Speaker 1:  But you got this dude. I
1:00:07  Speaker 1:  this sucks. Like this will can will ruin a marriage. Like kids is like a not a fun place to be for a man. And I'm sure it's not a fun place to be for a woman, you know, especially you're married to this person, like that sucks, dude. So if you wanna reach back out to us, we can help further.
1:00:21  Speaker 0:  You're
1:00:22  Speaker 1:  a big dog. Okay. Good morning. You've been watching the podcast. Love the info. Questions regarding CJC Ipamorelin. Would you recommend with or without DAC for my 1st time? I would say without DAC. Okay. Way more close with,
1:00:35  Speaker 1:  yeah, we just did a pod watched our last podcast where we talk about every single secretagogue. Yep. Or the 1 before that where we just talk about CJC.
1:00:42  Speaker 1:  Yeah. And,
1:00:45  Speaker 1:  but no DAC, it just is that
1:00:48  Speaker 1:  you got to inject a little bit more frequently, well,
1:00:51  Speaker 1:  every day, but it is way more like your natural growth output and will give you better results and safer results. Okay? I'm 37 UPS driver, so I'm active and go to the gym. Weigh about 200 pounds,
1:01:03  Speaker 1:  trying to lose weight and lean out. And my natural test is in the 8 to 900 range. Also, would be a good starting point to stack Retta with?
1:01:11  Speaker 1:  Thank you and thank God bless. So
1:01:15  Speaker 1:  I'd say no DAC on the, on the CJC Ipam.
1:01:18  Speaker 1:  What would stack Retta with? Hell.
1:01:21  Speaker 1:  AOD?
1:01:23  Speaker 1:  AOD's awesome.
1:01:24  Speaker 1:  I would probably say if I had to choose 1,
1:01:27  Speaker 1:  I would choose that 1st. Hear that.
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1:02:00  Speaker 0:  The city other are just man. Yeah. I mean, SLU- throw SLU in there instead of the AOD, but AOD is I love it. Yeah. I'd say AOD is number 1, but, like, okay, here's our secondaries is is, like, 5 m, 1 MQ.
1:02:12  Speaker 1:  SLU-3P, even L carnitine, which is not really an injectable peptide, but, and I would do the injectable L carnitine, not pill L carnitine.
1:02:21  Speaker 1:  What am I missing for fat burners?
1:02:53  Speaker 0:  T levels up to more optimized levels? What do you got? Take testosterone,
1:02:58  Speaker 1:  take TRT.
1:03:00  Speaker 1:  I mean, okay. So sorry.
1:03:03  Speaker 1:  1st of all,
1:03:04  Speaker 1:  65 year old woman or whatever husband is good for you. You're a good wife asking in this because 50
1:03:12  Speaker 1:  free tests, but total 196,
1:03:14  Speaker 1:  197, which is weird. I almost don't trust the blood test. Sometimes this data gets weird. I don't know if it's on, if it's on, like, keto or fasting, it it can totally, like, skew blood tests. There's a bunch of things that just
1:03:27  Speaker 1:  like, that's an amazing conversion.
1:03:29  Speaker 1:  Tiniest
1:03:31  Speaker 1:  amount of total
1:03:32  Speaker 1:  testosterone
1:03:33  Speaker 1:  just
1:03:34  Speaker 1:  converted so much to free tests. That's weird.
1:03:38  Speaker 1:  And you're asking because you're not really seeing the benefits of that 50 free tests. It's probably not really like that.
1:03:45  Speaker 1:  I would go to at 197,
1:03:48  Speaker 0:  there's
1:03:48  Speaker 1:  that's
1:03:50  Speaker 1:  I'm sorry. There's he's 65.
1:03:52  Speaker 1:  Quit
1:03:53  Speaker 1:  forcing the guy to go take cold baths and fast and like just give him some testosterone.
1:03:59  Speaker 1:  You know? He's a good candidate for it. Know, there's all a bunch of natural things that people can do to like, but he's not,
1:04:06  Speaker 1:  he's too low and he's too old. Give him some real testosterone.
1:04:10  Speaker 1:  Please.
1:04:11  Speaker 1:  Please.
1:04:13  Speaker 1:  For everybody's sake. It'll work like that too. Everybody will be happier. So
1:04:17  Speaker 1:  Take him to go to DRT if wanna die for Then 3
1:04:21  Speaker 1:  get give it a few months, then run the numbers. I bet you'd be radically different. Yeah. You'll see it. I dare I mean, you'll I think you're gonna see it in his behavior and,
1:04:29  Speaker 1:  happiness.
1:04:30  Speaker 1:  It's both of your happiness.
1:04:33  Speaker 1:  Here
1:04:35  Speaker 1:  I am.
1:04:37  Speaker 0:  I love that Peptide podcast.
1:04:39  Speaker 0:  They helped me. Okay.
1:04:41  Speaker 0:  What's up? Last question, guys. All right. So what's up guys? Cisco here. I'm back. I took your advice on the Q and A all but
1:04:49  Speaker 0:  the test. I just can't get the injection in the muscle. No, I know. But here's my question. A friend of mine wants to do a copper peptide as a topical
1:05:00  Speaker 0:  after they get micro needling done to their face.
1:05:03  Speaker 0:  A rep encouraged her to just use the peptide that you usually inject as
1:05:08  Speaker 0:  like a serum as a topical.
1:05:10  Speaker 0:  Do you agree? No. 1 more. I'm loving the Tessa Ipamblend and have noticed a big decrease in my lower belly and love handles with no water retention. My wife, on the other hand,
1:05:22  Speaker 0:  was retaining a lot of water, so she got off 1 of her friends too. Is
1:05:27  Speaker 0:  there a way to not retain water, just do less for
1:05:31  Speaker 0:  women or less water?
1:05:33  Speaker 0:  Thanks again for the podcast. It's awesome. Keep up the good work. Much love from over here in the Midwest. For
1:05:39  Speaker 0:  sure. But I don't think so. I mean, just, I mean, you could do both. I do both. I love GHK-3Cu, so my wife and I both take it at night.
1:05:47  Speaker 0:  Face serum, you know, is
1:05:49  Speaker 0:  done from a
1:05:52  Speaker 0:  chemist that actually knows what they're doing and you're going to get the better.
1:05:57  Speaker 0:  Ours in particular has a SNAP-eight too, which is like Botox in a bottle. So it's going to tighten skin, get rid of wrinkles.
1:06:03  Speaker 0:  It's just going to be better. Could it work? Sure. Why would you do that? Just inject the GHK-two and use the face serum. So that's my answer on that. When it comes to Tesamorelin,
1:06:11  Speaker 0:  that's common for women. A little bit of anything for women goes a long way. I've
1:06:17  Speaker 0:  said this numerous times, but I put my wife on AOD and Tesamorelin and it did wonders for her, but she did start getting bloated fairly quickly.
1:06:25  Speaker 0:  So we took her off of it and she was on a super low dose. So you could either just cut it in 0.5 and see if it works or get off it for a few, like a week or so and then get back on it.
1:06:35  Speaker 0:  I think that should work. But a Tesamorelin for women goes a long way and it works really well. So that should should help, but it's common for water retention chair.
1:06:43  Speaker 1:  Yep. So yeah, you're talking about just like, Hey, the regular,
1:06:48  Speaker 1:  GHK-3two
1:06:49  Speaker 1:  0 One:5two one:5two
1:06:52  Speaker 1:  0 Like there is more, there's stuff in there that you,
1:06:55  Speaker 1:  One:5two I know it sounds weird, but like there's stuff in there you don't want to spray in your face, but inject it.
1:07:01  Speaker 1:  But
1:07:02  Speaker 1:  that stuff that's in there for the injection is kind of meant to go in there and, like, like the salt puck that they put in, that everybody,
1:07:10  Speaker 1:  when you lyophilize a peptide folks, if you just got the raw peptide powder
1:07:15  Speaker 1:  and
1:07:17  Speaker 1:  put it in a bottle and
1:07:19  Speaker 1:  crimp the top, you would look at it and go, where is my peptide? Right? You'd see little wisps of nothing.
1:07:26  Speaker 1:  So they put the oversimplification,
1:07:28  Speaker 1:  basically a salt puck
1:07:30  Speaker 1:  in there that mixes with the peptide, give it some like volume and body and a preservative,
1:07:35  Speaker 1:  and then freeze dry it,
1:07:38  Speaker 1:  suck the air out most of them just because you have the air sucked if the air is if it's not vacuum sealed, doesn't necessarily that's just 1 lab's
1:07:45  Speaker 1:  process.
1:07:46  Speaker 1:  Okay? So just like if it doesn't if it's not vacuum sealed, it's not necessarily bad. Now, yeah, that is 1 sign that maybe somebody tampered with it,
1:07:54  Speaker 1:  took the top off before selling it to you and just like crimp the top on and that's bad, but just it's not necessarily a bad sign if it's not vacuum sealed, but you know, you don't, there's way better things to do that is made into a serum, right? That the water just kind of runs off your face anyway. Plus
1:08:12  Speaker 0:  it has bacterial
1:08:15  Speaker 1:  I mean, plus it's got, you know, benzyl alcohol,
1:08:18  Speaker 1:  not great in micro needling. You know, I would absolutely use a serum by the way, in 1 of these serums that we have, right? So let's say you have your 100 mg of GHK CU bottle, right? To make 1 of our serums, 20 milers,
1:08:32  Speaker 1:  we, there are 20 bottles 1 of that to make So blue. Have you ever looked at other companies?
1:08:39  Speaker 0:  No offense, but it's like crap. That is yeah. Barely blue. There's some copper in there. Yeah.
1:08:45  Speaker 1:  You're getting a ton for your money, by the way. That's what it works. Way more. And it works. It works. It's
1:08:51  Speaker 1:  So I would do that for sure. And your last question is,
1:08:55  Speaker 1:  oh yeah, yeah, he's right about that.
1:08:58  Speaker 1:  Women, yes, here's the answers.
1:09:00  Speaker 1:  Drop them down to like 2 50 micrograms.
1:09:04  Speaker 1:  So low dose of
1:09:06  Speaker 1:  each, Tessa and Ipah, okay? And let
1:09:10  Speaker 1:  them use that stable, maybe 2 weeks, show, hey, not retaining water or at least I've lost that water. Or if you wanna just stop it altogether, let the water flush,
1:09:18  Speaker 1:  then restart it, but restart it at a low dose.
1:09:22  Speaker 1:  Go like 2 week increments, right, 2 50 micrograms daily, hell, even 3 days a week if you wanna start really low, then go up to 500 micrograms and you find your sweet spot. If you go to the next level, maybe 7 50 and you start retaining water, too much. There it is. Back her back down. And then just chill. Cause things just work better in women. They're smaller people. Yeah. Usually.
1:09:44  Speaker 1:  Sweet spot, man. Takes while.
1:09:48  Speaker 1:  Find a sweet spot, but don't just stop. Absolutely don't stop. Ride it out. There's a lot of things with, with, with these secretagogues that honestly, if you just kind of ride it out, lower your dose, let your body normalize, get used to it, you're all good. Good
1:10:03  Speaker 0:  stuff. That was good. We always liked this 1. It's always fun So have
1:10:08  Speaker 0:  we have
1:10:09  Speaker 0:  Doctor. Stanley coming on. What is today? I think we recorded it. No, 2 days. And it will drop on Monday and
1:10:16  Speaker 0:  we're going to talk a little bit more about some testosterone replacement.
1:10:19  Speaker 0:  We will talk about some peptides,
1:10:21  Speaker 0:  so we'll kind of see where the conversation goes. Then after that, not right after, but we are gonna have a gal on here who is a nurse practitioner
1:10:29  Speaker 0:  that I know very well, good friend of ours.
1:10:31  Speaker 0:  And she's gonna talk about women and testosterone
1:10:35  Speaker 0:  and things like that. So that episode will be strictly for you gals
1:10:39  Speaker 0:  and just certain things directed towards you women. And she knows a lot about a lot of that stuff. So we want to have that on there for her. So I think with Doctor. Stanley, we will talk about some of the things with like
1:10:50  Speaker 0:  AIs and things like that, because there has been some shifts in people's opinions on that. In particular, his, his, what he believes estrogen levels are okay and things like that. A little bit of a different opinion than I think some of Will and I have discussed, but like anything, you know, there's growth on all aspects, you know, like we're always, the cool thing about what we do is these are conversations we've had forever long before, like we were on a podcast, they would just be us talking.
1:11:17  Speaker 0:  Now we have a lot of people that come into our realm because of this, we get to learn and continue to grow and continue to maybe have different perspectives. That's called growth. Right? We are not too proud to say we don't know everything just because we were on a podcast that no me knew everything. We pretend to know everything, but we love it. We study it and that will never stop. So that is coming. Anything else you got? Yeah, we are thinking about you ladies. That is why we're having a
1:11:43  Speaker 1:  of questions. And really, and, and, you know, I don't know, those questions are better answered. A lot of them are better answered with from a woman and she is practicing in this space, like daily, very
1:11:54  Speaker 1:  successful
1:11:55  Speaker 1:  and constantly educating herself on
1:11:58  Speaker 1:  facial trends. Oh yeah. And we're going try to get anyway, we'll let Doctor. Stanley speak for himself and you'll see, but you should watch that. That's good takes on different things and other alternative medicines that people ask about, especially men, but the women 1, we are thinking about you. We're going to do that.
1:12:13  Speaker 0:  We're absolutely going do that. And we can expand on that more too, if that helps. She does some stuff like EBO- don't know if I've done it before. Don't know if anybody knows what that is, but it's like a blood transfusion. Literally take blood out of your body.
1:12:24  Speaker 0:  It cleans it of toxins. It cleans it of like microplastics.
1:12:28  Speaker 0:  I've done it. I did it with her. She'll talk a little bit about that. It's interesting. We might even will and I might even go try it and just record it. He's never done it, but, that stuff's cool, man. So those are the kinds of stuff that we get to try and it's like, you can age really well these days. Now these things cost,
1:12:45  Speaker 1:  but if they're affordable, they work. 1 of our, 1 of our customers told me that she is knowing it's new. And she said, Hey, will you, do you want to be like a test case? Because it's usually really expensive, but it's draw your blood, then
1:13:00  Speaker 1:  mix it and basically turn it into almost a clay. Oh, wow. And then
1:13:04  Speaker 1:  reapply
1:13:05  Speaker 1:  it
1:13:06  Speaker 1:  like topically or re or inject it back in you maybe. Wow.
1:13:11  Speaker 0:  Well, they have that blood, a vampire facial. Yeah. She
1:13:18  Speaker 0:  does with, the doctor or the nurse practitioner that we're talking about. So we'll talk about whatever kind of pops up, but we will talk about a lot of the testosterone questions that you ladies want to talk about. Cause we had so many from you. We want to have 1 1 episode for you. Yeah. And we know a bunch of women who are taking testosterone pellets, like in, or in our loving it.
1:13:37  Speaker 1:  Some are taking desserts from pellets and, you know, maybe aren't loving it, but have found a better way. That's the problem with anyway. Let her break it down. So
1:13:46  Speaker 0:  that's what it is. We will catch you on the next round with Doctor. Tyler Stanley drops on Monday. Other than that, we'll catch you guys next time. Take it easy. Good night.