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0:24Speaker 1Welcome back to the peptide of the week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham, and my buddy, my partner is across the way with T. Hoss.
0:34Speaker 2What's up, everybody? What up, dude? Dapper in your black and white. You just look good today. Well, thank thank you. How's your head? Head's good, man. Yeah. I was looking at today when we were I talking was out riding a bike, going to golf cart this weekend. It was sunny. It was like 80 degrees this weekend. Purchase. I know what in the Downtown,
0:49Speaker 2it was just like, it's wintertime. I know. Mid January, we live in a beautiful place. People at the beach. Yeah.
1:04Speaker 2know, like we brought up the bikes for the winter because they've been kind of stored for 2 months of winter and realized,
1:24Speaker 2Didn't run it into it. Just didn't realize that if you park the golf cart sideways, the little thing that moves,
1:42Speaker 2So it was a blessing in disguise. It was a blessing in disguise. And then, yeah. So there's a lot of, like
1:56Speaker 2So I was playing mechanic this weekend. Pretty typical. Pretty kind of typical. Yeah. I always have
2:02Speaker 1stuff that I'm breaking and fixing or that's broken and I'm fixing. I end up getting too many like toys that I really want to make, that I wanna make work. So people at home, this is a this is kind of a funny story. So Will and I through the warehouse have video cameras, and we both have access to them. And sometimes
2:17Speaker 1Will likes to be left alone, and Will likes to do his things. And I've learned that about him through the years, especially working with the Blast Deer on a daily basis. And so I stay out of his way. I'm not that helpful when it comes to that stuff anyway. So he likes to just come in and do some busy work, but I'll watch you just do the word-5-1T.
2:41Speaker 2ugh, I need- You build something? Yes, I'd rather, I need to get up and go move some furniture, do something physical. Yeah. Because it dry, I mean, you know, productivity starts to just
3:01Speaker 1everybody, you can leave us some comments. I'm curious. I think he looks good with a shaved head. I think that I had a shaved head for most probably 20 years. Did you meet me with a shaved head? Yes. I think that I had a shaved head forever. I finally grew it out, but
3:13Speaker 2I think you look good, bro. I would leave it. It's easy. I went to a funeral on Friday to, for a friend of ours, unfortunately.
3:27Speaker 2I had 2 different people who were like, oh, I was like, yeah, shaved my I shaved my head. I got this hair transplant. And they're like, oh, really? I wouldn't even notice. Like, you look like you were made for a shaved head.
3:37Speaker 2Some people just heat up, man. I've seen some people that their heads just destroyed after that day. That's Yeah. Well, apparently, so the the hair is supposed to be falling out now. And then then it will finally regrow. But maybe
3:52Speaker 2Oh, maybe. It's growing faster and just not falling out. That GHK ECU, baby. It works. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That's awesome. So I should give a shout out to my,
4:06Speaker 2but let me make sure I get the name right. Yeah. That's probably 1st before the shout out. But I will say I was at the gym this morning, so I go to Equinox in Huntington and a different gym, but, I know that you like quotes. I do. So you're a big, like, motivational quote person and I am kind of too. There's a couple heard somebody say this in the gym this morning, which is very basic and probably everybody else is gonna be like, duh. But he's, he was talking about work, he's like, well, I'd rather just I'd rather be tired than broke.
4:34Speaker 2Mic drop. Right? Like, there's a I don't know. I've never heard of it. Maybe everybody else has. I like it. But I like the other 1 that says friends
4:41Speaker 1Friends don't ask you for discounts. Right? Friends pay full price and leave you a review. That's Oxford Mosse. Yeah. I love Oxford Mosse. I remember when I read that, I was like, dude, I love Oxford Mosse.
4:57Speaker 2I love that, bro. Right? Not not just me, like all of our friends. Right? Like, I don't ask until you get burnt. Right? I had a friend who had cancer, and so he did did a hit,
5:05Speaker 2he had a car detailing business. I was like, bro, I'll pay you. I go, don't I don't even want a discount, dude. I know you're hurting.
5:29Speaker 2So maybe those aren't really They'll comment. They'll comment. They'll comment on that 1. But I do try to, like, I don't know. I'd rather give money to somebody I know. Oh god. Same thing like if I had a sister. I'd probably rather my friend who I like marry her than some random ass person. Right? People get all butt hurt that their friend is maybe dating their sister, but I mean, I guess I'd rather have the person who I know and I like be good to my sister. It's always perspective.
5:57Speaker 1I'll give the shout out here in a little bit. Yeah. I love it as you're doing that. I mean, going off of what you said, what made me think about that was, my, my son-in-law, which was great. You know, they, he, is in the union and, know, he was rained out, wasn't working much. I had no idea. You know, I don't know what's going on in their life exactly. But,
6:12Speaker 1you know, he reached out and instead of asking for money, he asked if he could work. Yeah, that's great. I respected it, you know, because he came here at work. It was cool. I'm like, bro, that was like rare.
6:24Speaker 1Good job, He worked and he worked well and like, then he left. Yeah. He didn't ask for anything. He just worked. So get on you, man. So- That's the way- Young guys, you, are listening, do that. Do that.
6:54Speaker 2apparently we live in a neighborhood that has tons of kids and they're awesome. So we had like kids riding a bike. I was like, Trevor, get out there and go ride your bike. So he did 2 down houses down. These guys have this giant
7:11Speaker 2Outside. Bigger than my than my arm stretch outside that they blow up in front of their house. Cool. And they ring a popcorn machine out at nighttime and, like, watch movies or sporting events and all the kids in the neighborhood can ride by. And anyway, so he's running to the house chasing,
7:29Speaker 2Do you have screen force? It's what I would do. Yeah. I know. I mean, my dogs don't he'd ruin every single string screen door in my house.
7:36Speaker 2It it is what it is, but, I was like, hey, Ali, like, let's make sure that we say we're gonna pay for the screen door. Right? Tell them we'll pay for Chances are with things like that, like, you know, chances are most people are gonna make, don't even worry about it, but, like, you need to just offer and be ready to Always. Pay for it. Do that, bro. So Let's bring that type of lifestyle back. Gosh. Offer. Jeez. Just offer every time. No matter what.
7:58Speaker 2It's a good back. 90% of the time, they're gonna say, no, it's cool. Right. But if you offer, you better do it. Yeah. Shoot. Anyway,
8:06Speaker 1white Well, today's q and a. Today's q and a. We say it all the time. We love this. We get a touch a little bit more touch of who you guys are and what you're what you got going. The questions are pretty to the degree base. We ran through them separately,
8:18Speaker 1we didn't do it. We are doing that, that like that. I think that we enjoyed it more. I hope that you enjoyed it more, but we did. So we're going to do it that way. We don't share answers.
8:33Speaker 2It's good. People get different differences of opinion and different explanations as to why, you know?
8:39Speaker 1Yeah, it was fun. So it was cool. So I, as always, I think you do the honors, man. I think that's kinda how we start with you doing the 1st 1. That's rough. Alright. Here we go. Hi. I have a question for your podcast, and I'm not sure this is the way I'm supposed to reach you. That
8:54Speaker 2seems to be we will talk to our guy to make it more clear. Alright. Because you're not the 1st person to ask that.
9:00Speaker 2I hope this message is not bothering you. I Never. I am a fan of your podcast and learned so much, thanks to you guys. I've been on tirzepatide for almost 4 months, lost 28 pounds
9:31Speaker 2although I don't hit the gym, I have an outdoor physical job that keeps me moving all day. Someday I will have time for the gym when kids are older. I wanna lose another 4 pounds of fat, and I'm stalled. Should I change to Retta or add switch to AOD, Tesamorelin, BAM 15,
9:48Speaker 2or which ones do you recommend? Also, should I cycle them and for how long? I'd like to get off Drzepatide sometime in the next 3 months tops to make sure I don't develop any resistance to it.
10:03Speaker 2versus more affordable? I can only probably afford 1 to 2 peptides at this time. Thank you again so much for all of the research and expertise you provide. Okay,
10:13Speaker 2yeah, sure. I have some answers for you. So, again, as always, like, here's what I would do. Okay. I'm not really I don't really wanna give advice. We're not doctors.
10:27Speaker 2I would so you need to so a, you're telling us that don't tell you to just go start lifting weights. Okay? Because the okay. So we won't bother saying that. But cool. You have a physical job, and,
10:38Speaker 2you're stalled. You did an awesome job, but you're stalled at the I would abs I would switch to Retta. 100 yes. Yes. I would.
10:49Speaker 2We do build a tolerance to these things. So you've been on it for 4 months. Like, this dose is not doing the same thing as it used to when you started.
10:59Speaker 2is because you have lost weight, but unfortunately, you've probably lost some muscle also. Fat,
11:05Speaker 2maybe mostly fat, but like a little bit of muscle. Okay? Remember, every pound of muscle we burn off, we lose, our metabolism slows down by about 50 calories a day.
11:17Speaker 2multiply, you know, you lost 3 pounds of muscle. It's just, for example, right, there's a 150 calories a day.
11:24Speaker 2You know, that adds up. K? If I was better at math, I would tell you, but 150 calories a day times times 7 days is 700.
11:38Speaker 2And that makes that last little bit of fat harder and harder to get off you if we have less muscle because it lowers your basal metabolic rate. Okay?
11:47Speaker 2So eat more protein. I know you're not gonna go to the gym because I would say, Hey, hit the gym, lift some weights, gain some of that muscle back, but Retta will help with this.
11:56Speaker 2If you switch to Retta, start at the same dose, but feel free to bump up a little bit. Okay? Maybe to, you know, to start at 2.5 makes for a week and or 2. And then if you feel like bumping up to, like,
12:10Speaker 2maybe up to 5 Migs a week. I don't think you need to go that high immediately. For sure not.
12:16Speaker 2But try that. That will give you a little bit more of an appetite. Okay? But make sure that when you do eat, now we're eating only protein. So so it goes to muscle, you sure don't lose any more muscle, but you might add some muscle, especially with your active job and and throwing the kids around.
13:20Speaker 1if you will. I like to do things the same exact way, and that's just the way I roll. Now, 1 of the things that I do, I wake up at 4, I go downstairs, I hit coffee and I'm generally sitting on my chair for a good 10 minutes as a coffee's making, then I have 0.5 of a cup, blah, blah, Then I get into readings, blah, blah. 1 of the things that I have changed
13:38Speaker 1in the last 2 weeks is as I go and hit coffee, I go into my office and I do 200 sit ups. 1st thing that I do. So I get right to doing sit ups. It wakes me up more. I get the sit ups in because I at the gym, I don't really have to do
13:53Speaker 1abs if I don't want to, because sometimes I got to get out of there. And so I knocked the abs out right away. He wakes me up. So the reason I'm telling you this is do something like that. You don't have to hit the gym,
14:13Speaker 1sit ups and push ups are, like, amazing. Body weight squats. It's a bet. Yeah. Body weight squats,
14:19Speaker 1push ups, sit ups. You could crack that out in 15 minutes and go so far with just body weight stuff. So I'm gonna recommend that,
14:26Speaker 1for sure. Throw that in there. We already picked up the tab on this. Obviously, we're gonna say go to Retta, especially if you feel like you've been losing some muscle. The Retta, you're not gonna have to deal with that as much.
14:38Speaker 1AOD is gonna be great. I wouldn't really switch off the Retta. I would stay on it for a bit and then add in the AOD.
14:45Speaker 1And I mean, he's already said it. I don't want to be completely redundant. Then you can add in the Tesamorelin and it's all affordability, right?
14:55Speaker 1And then if you can do the Tesamorelin at night, it helps with sleep and it will just burn that bottom belly fat. But
15:06Speaker 1some weights, throwing some exercise. You don't have weights. I mean, get some curls, 25 year curls. I mean, those are cheap and you can use so much. You can do triceps. You can do back.
15:19Speaker 2day. We'll do a lot. So throw that in. And what do you say too? Like, Hey, 1st thing in the morning, this is what we call kind of fasted cardio. Right? Well, if anybody's ever heard of that, why that makes sense is,
15:30Speaker 2well, we're fasted. We didn't eat anything. If you have any sugar carbs on board, right, in your system and you go work out, your body will not burn fat until those
15:39Speaker 2that sugar and carbs have been burnt off. K? It's fueling you to have a great workout. Cool. More energy, but exercise 1st thing in the morning. Your body goes, okay. Where's the carbs? None. Okay. I'll burn fat. Right? I'll burn fat. Yes. So that is 1 benefit to 1st thing in the morning. Plus it just boosts your metabolism all day long, and it makes you feel better. 15 minutes. Wakes you up. That's 15 minutes. Absolutely nothing.
16:09Speaker 2I do more body weight squats than anything. Yeah. Herschel Walker was famous. Mike Tyson never put weights on their back at all. Those dude's legs are this big around. And I know that's not your goal, but the point is that- Throw it in there. They still work and get you worked out. You know, it's funny, so side note. So 1 of the things when I 1st started my fitness thing, I was doing a lot of HIIT training and videos like that, you remember?
16:30Speaker 1And so I would do recordings and I wouldn't like rehearse them obviously. So I did a 1 where I wanted to switch it up from hit and do body weight, pushups, body weight, squats, and sit ups. I'm like, we're going to do 300 of each, hundred, hundred, hundred, then 100, So 100, I did 300 and I thought it was gonna be easy. I, it
16:50Speaker 1it was a lot harder and I couldn't like, I had to like get the video done, which I did, but it was rough, dude.
16:58Speaker 2Goes a long way. So Body weight goes a long way, dude. I mean, not a 100, but I think on these days where I'm like, I don't have that much time. Everything is kind of sore. Right? You don't really wanna work out a sore muscle because you just the whole point working a muscle out is you beat it down, you tear it down, then you just let it grow back. Right? If we're just
17:17Speaker 2you're defeating the purpose of really working it. Right? Tear down, let it eat protein, let it build. Yep. Right? But
17:23Speaker 2so the days I try not to like hit any muscle hard, so I'll do a variation of that and do 10 body weight squats,
17:36Speaker 2tough, but even, I don't know if I have TRx bands or whatever, but I go 3 exercises, go 10, 10, 10, and then repeat 10 times. That's great. 10 rounds of that. Yeah. And don't try not to break. Right? You just try to just take great workout.
17:52Speaker 1Pull ups, sit ups, push ups, body squats. Squats. All you need, dude. It really is. People get ripped up in prison cells. I would be. I'm
18:40Speaker 1Hit the gym a minimum 3 days a week with push pull leg workout format at the purple, at the purple gym. That's funny. I know what you mean. That's funny. Right. Thought that.
19:03Speaker 1be a good plan of attack to get the fat burned off. I do not want to lose muscle, just the fat. During the club diet is 75%
19:50Speaker 1say it so often, but like it's really true. There's very few people that it wouldn't before.
19:55Speaker 1And I'll say it again because I don't know when, what you've heard and what you haven't, but in my opinion is only going to Retatrutide is only going to be for not going to be for somebody tiny like my wife because she's too small and she would wither away. It really does have a place for most people
20:11Speaker 1regardless of what they're looking for. And the only difference is going to be Push your limits, train with precision,
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20:34Speaker 1is and the dosage is the key. If you're trying to lose weight, you're gonna take more. If you're trying to just be more lean, if you're already lean, you take a tiny bit. Tiny bit goes a long way.
20:54Speaker 1it's always very vague to me because clean, what is clean? I I've, I've, done a fitness thing for a long time. And like when I would ask, when they would say clean and I would ask what clean means, it wouldn't really be clean. And I'm not challenging you. I'm just saying maybe elaborate a little bit more on the clean eating
21:11Speaker 1a lot. So yeah, I think if you added some Retta, I think, you know, I'm a fasting guy. I talk about it a lot. If you just add in some fasting and just make some changes when it comes to that, the fasting goes a long way. Retrutide,
21:37Speaker 1I think those are a little better. I think Will knows this. I'm not the biggest fan of CJC
21:42Speaker 1just from what I've read. And then I finally, for the 1st time, took it recently and just didn't like it. It really kind of like coincided with things that I read. I stopped it fairly quickly.
21:53Speaker 1not the biggest fan of CJC. I would say Tesamorelin, if you're going to add that in Tesamorelin
22:22Speaker 2Kinda sorta not really? 0 Yeah. Yeah. No, that was good. Yeah. That's fine. Okay, cool. All right. Here is what stands out to me.
22:33Speaker 2would taking Reta 2 to 3 months then going to CJC Ipah because you don't wanna lose muscle. So here's the deal. Like when you're on Reta, any of these GLP-1s,
22:53Speaker 2your body use your muscle for energy, therefore losing muscle. But on the secreted drugs,
23:00Speaker 2that's 1 of the biggest things about your growth hormone being elevated is like you will not lose any muscle. I don't care what kind of, you know, you can just run yourself to death every day. If your HGH is high, it's crazy how
23:12Speaker 2you're not gonna lose much muscle at all. So my suggestion would be to be on a secretagogue while doing Retta. Right. K?
23:35Speaker 2in conjunction with each other, it's gonna be much more effective. There's gonna a synergistic effect. Okay? Yeah.
23:41Speaker 2When the product of the whole is greater than the sum of the individual parts, okay, they will do a lot more than just 1 plus 1. Right? Together is gonna give you more.
23:55Speaker 2as far as the burning fat part of the CJC IpA, it's like, man, does that, like, a personal
24:01Speaker 2sometimes it burns a lot of fat on certain people and, like, sometimes people don't really notice what it's doing. Really what it's gonna tell you is like how low your natural growth is. So as you get older though, and I believe said 60, so like now is it. Bet that stuff will work very well for you. I bet it worked really, really well for you.
24:28Speaker 2That'll help help you gain some muscle. But so I would do them at the same time, and you just gotta try. You just gotta go, hey, man. I'm gonna do the CJC up at 1st. Great. Do it. Run it at least 3, I'd say 3, 4 months. Okay? Then make a decision.
24:49Speaker 21 time a day of 0.25 pin per day. Then every other day for a 120, do that. All of these secreted dogs need to be done every day. There is no such thing as a loading phase. Like the loading
25:10Speaker 2They don't build up in you. So just every day. And there's and don't do 5 days on, 2 days off. Only reason you wanna do that is to save money, but it it will be less effective.
25:19Speaker 2Agreed. A lot of people say that though. It is what it is. That's like an old thing from bodybuilders and growth. Like, oh, 5 days on, 2 days off. It's just because it was expensive, so there was a strategy to save money, but it's going to be,
25:51Speaker 2assuming you're not on like a ketogenic or carnivore diet. Right? But you're probably getting enough fat, and you're probably not eating a whole bunch of carbs.
25:59Speaker 2So you better be Okay. So I just I don't know. It just if I'm if I'm hitting my protein, like, I'm doing really good.
26:11Speaker 2You know? And you're getting 96 you're getting 960 calories a day from 240 grams. So how are we feeling the rest of those calories? Right? Let's
26:20Speaker 2you know, they're gonna be from sugar or, from carbs or fat, but just make sure that those are about even. Maybe macros is another conversation.
26:30Speaker 2I think that when people tell me, and no offense to you, but like when people tell me how many steps they get, it's equivalent
26:42Speaker 2Leg, I mean, step, I don't care. You're not burning fat walking. Sorry. Like you're just, you're not, your HURBIT's not getting elevated enough. You're just slowly burning off energy from your body. Right? So
26:57Speaker 2made us think that you're healthy if we get more steps in. That's not a, it's- It doesn't matter. Doesn't, it actually doesn't really work that well. We need to have real exercise.
27:07Speaker 2Okay? And frankly, I don't care about doing cardio either. Cardio is not as you will not burn as much fat. Person does cardio as much as they lift weights, person lifting weights is gonna burn way more calories, right? Because you have when you tear your muscle down and it is sore,
27:22Speaker 2every day you're running a ton of calories, your body trying to repair that. Right? Way more than and when you do cardio cool, you might be burning a little bit more more calories during the act than lifting weights. Soon as you stop,
27:34Speaker 2calories done burning. Yeah. But lifting weights, that caloric burn continues on for 2 days as long as you're sore. Yep. Plus,
27:44Speaker 2plus usually doing cardio, you burn off muscle, which just kills your metabolism also. So
27:50Speaker 2good. Don't care really about cardio. Cardio, the only good thing is, I mean, for your heart, you want your heart to be healthy. So I don't wanna say don't ever do cardio, but your cardio better be in the heart healthy zone, which is like above 80%
28:04Speaker 1heart rate. So many people that don't know that what you just said. Yeah. Yeah. Very good that you did. And I believe your max rate is calculated 2 20 minuteus your age.
28:11Speaker 2Mean, there's a longer calculation, but that's a rough 1. 2 20 minuteus your age, that's your max heart rate,
28:23Speaker 2Your heart is getting a workout. Your heart's a muscle. That thing needs to get a, get a good workout in.
28:44Speaker 2your body is working so hard that it is burning muscle and fat. So there's your trade off is what it is.
28:51Speaker 1Percent, 60 to 70. Right. I'd rather do it 1 way. Sorry. I don't even do cardio. And eat healthy. Right? Yeah. I was gonna say, like, you that's like, it's so funny because, like, I don't do cardio. If I'm ever gonna do it, it's hit, but I haven't done it forever because of my back. But lifting
29:03Speaker 1weights, I love it. I don't do cardio. People think that's crazy because they probably think because I'm lean that I do a lot of cardio, but I don't. I eat right. I fast and I eat right. I don't do cardio. I hate cardio. I don't want to do cardio. So for my heart, it probably would be good if I did it sometimes, but I fast a lot and I think the fasting picks up the tab for a lot. It does. It does. Go to the gym and go look at who's in shape. See, abs, it's diet pressure. But, like, where are they? What are they doing? Right? Where are the women who are in shape? Are they on tell me if they're all on the cardio equipment or are they in the weight room?
29:37Speaker 1I think 1 of the things that you said that kind of sat with me, which was rad, which is if
29:42Speaker 1you have HGH growth hormone, you're not going to lose muscle, which is awesome because it's funny because we had recorded a video right before we sat for my channel because I get challenged on that really quickly and I want to tap on it because
29:55Speaker 1I eat, I fast a lot and only sometimes 1 big meal. And a lot of people question that, like, do you get enough nutrients? How do you get enough protein, blah, blah, blah. Well, I take human growth hormone for 1. And when you fast, your body releases human growth hormone for 2, and you don't need as much food as we think we do for 3. So that's how that stuff works, you know? So it's diet. Like again, we're gonna, Will and I are gonna say diet, diet, diet, diet, diet is such a big part of health.
30:22Speaker 1Supplements are freaking great, but if you don't have hormones in line and diet supplements don't mean shit. It's just the truth. I'm gonna be blunt with you. That's just the So diet, diet, And to be real for all of you haters, like,
30:34Speaker 2he he is, like, enhanced. Right? So he's taking some testosterone and HGH. Right? And then I mean, that's what we call enhanced, but, like, his hormones are optimized. So some rule, if your hormones are not optimized,
30:54Speaker 1Yeah. So if you're if you're someone that wants to like, okay, like, it's great to like study what somebody does. We're advocates of you want to be successful, do it successfully. But you have to understand that, I've done a lot of things to get to the point where I'm doing all this. Know it works for me. So if you're coming in for somebody, been sitting on the couch for a long time and that's your life, and then you wanna do exactly how I do it, like without the HGH or the testosterone, just wanna it's not gonna work the same. It's not gonna work this. It's all optimized. Yep. And,
31:23Speaker 2but again, there are natural ways to bump up your testosterone and your growth hormone. Okay? It may not be as effective or quick as this. I'm not just saying, like, if you're a person who's like, I just will not ever touch those. Right. That's okay. You might have to work a little bit harder.
31:56Speaker 2that. Dose, though. Yes. Lotus. And recently added Tessa Ipah, 1 Migs Tessa every morning and 150
32:12Speaker 23 weeks into this cycle, 3 weeks. Okay. Was wondering how beneficial it is actually to fast after taking these.
32:19Speaker 2I don't have any side effects or benefits just yet, so hoping these should hit soonish, but I was wondering if I could do it unfasted.
32:49Speaker 2it all this is like, yo, I wanna eat. How long do I have to wait to eat? So the trick is you need to be fasted while you take them. So like I would say, don't eat for an hour before taking them. But also wait, like, I don't know, 0.5 hour, maybe maybe an hour after, but then you can eat.
33:11Speaker 2Because your problems were, hey, I I hate going to sleep on an empty stomach. It's not I that's the worst thing ever. I can feel my ribs while I'm you don't have to do that. You just need to be fasted.
33:22Speaker 2Eat a little bit of food, and I do think you should eat some nutrients before you go to sleep, like protein, especially, because that's then we got a building blocks for the biggest time that we actually body builds.
33:48Speaker 1and you're still like not you're choosing not to. They're the same price basically. So get off Semaglutide and get on the Retrutide and you get an upgrade very quickly. So do that. It'll make a huge difference. Yeah. And again, I, you, you did say that you did try to do the secretagog ZAT
34:06Speaker 1don't know if you're your aura ringer or whatever was saying that you had bad sleep, but they should be
34:11Speaker 1improving your sleep. Tesamorelin shouldn't be improving your sleep. So I'd give it some time. I would definitely take it at night. Let it run its course. Maybe your body at 1st is just kind of acting like that, but I'm going to say you're going take a security dog at night. That's
34:24Speaker 2cool. But you can eat after taking it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think your pro probably your sleep was bad because you're starving while you're while you're sleeping. Right. And that does suck.
34:33Speaker 2Also, okay, 3 weeks. You know what? Got this, these things were kind of a long place. So if you 3 weeks, yeah, keep going. Don't expect and you don't, it's funny. You don't really
34:55Speaker 2But it's a long term play, so don't expect immediate results, but it really is good for you. And I'm talking like, Most yeah, long
35:02Speaker 1are. I think people, you know, especially you started, it sounds like you started with Semaglutide,
35:07Speaker 1which you probably saw results really quickly. So you're probably thinking when you take the other compounds, you're going to find the same results and just, it's just not that way. I mean, most things take time, right? The GLP-1s are a little bit of an outlier when it comes to that stuff, but, and, you know,
35:22Speaker 1you know, for lack of a better way to say this, I think, you know, there's some people still hold like, peptides and compare them to like a steroid
35:35Speaker 1this is not how it works. You know, it's not how it works. You're just going to improve your body. You know, you have to have the other things in line again, diet and sleep and things like that to enhance them, and that can help them work quicker. But again, you're not going to really feel anything per se. You're just going to be healthier.
35:53Speaker 2you do have 3, 4 months, when you stop, you'll go, oh, that's what I was doing. Damn. Growth hormone for sure. Yeah. Like, I was way my body was way more forgiving if I did ate anything bad or didn't exercise or,
36:06Speaker 2you know, exercise too much. Right. Like, all the muscle just stayed on me. The other thing is you do say, hey, how long do I need to wait to eat and drink? Like, dude, drink. Go ahead. I mean, this can't be like protein shakes drinking, but like drink a bunch of water if you want. That that is not a
36:27Speaker 2There was something else that I meant to say. Maybe I'll come back to it. But yeah, drink water's cool, man. Drink it drink water and black coffee basically don't it's it's drinking foods that have nutrients in them. Anything that breaks a fast, right, that has calories in it. People think gum. I gum and I fast, so I
37:03Speaker 1love the material you guys are covering the podcast. Been doing peptides for 4 months now. Freaking love them. Don't we all? How happens? I'm looking to take HGH
37:17Speaker 1done to check my testosterone because I'm looking into TRT. I'm 32, pretty young, 32 year old male, lift 4 to 5 times a week,
37:27Speaker 1looking to pack on some lean muscle, start a new year, then look to get shredded before summer.
37:38Speaker 1what is an ideal dose or units to take per day or week? Would it be best to microdose like I do with peptides?
37:49Speaker 1and TRT daily, and what is your typical protocol? As you mentioned a while back on the podcast, HGH and TRT
38:04Speaker 1and Tesamorelin at night. Thanks guys. Love you much. You want me to jump on that? Go ahead. So yeah, they are. HGH
38:12Speaker 1and TRT are staples of mine. I've been taking HGH for quite some time, years, and I don't ever push the limits. I take low dose.
38:21Speaker 1I did 1 unit for a very long time. Do you remember? 1 unit. Then I even pushed it. I should probably been a couple of years since I've been 2 now, but some people still see a video from when I did 1. They're like, But I don't go above that. I think my take on HGH
38:40Speaker 1That's the godfather, so to speak. 32 is young. I'd like to see where your numbers are at.
38:56Speaker 1people in their young thirties coming back with low doses, low, like 300 or below on TRT 2. Was actually blown away when I started seeing that. You could be very low, but 32 is young in my opinion for TRT. So you definitely need to get your blood work,
39:12Speaker 1total tests, free test, estrogen levels at a minimum. If you want to call Doctor. Scott, he can help you with some of that stuff and read that stuff with you and then go from there. So TRT,
39:28Speaker 1Know, with the food we eat, it's poison. It's so a lot of people's numbers are kind of our toast, but 2 I use to
39:35Speaker 1answer your questions. I take, I never go above it ever. I believe, I personally believe with what
39:52Speaker 1problems that some people think HGH brings. I think a lot of that stuff is just not true.
39:58Speaker 1The cancer thing has been running around for years. We've been, I've heard it since the beginning of time that HGH causes cancer.
40:18Speaker 1You're going to have a lot more benefits from HGH than Doritos. So worry about that type of stuff, crap food.
40:24Speaker 1So HGH2 IUs, I would not recommend going over it. It's a long play. If you do decide to make an edgy Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox, that's high performance loving.
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41:00Speaker 1Cated opinion, which I hope you do some study and don't just take our opinions from the show. Study it, take our opinions, then study it, do the research to where you feel like you're educated
41:10Speaker 1and then decide if you're going to jump. And if you do, it's a long play. You won't really see a whole lot for 6 months, but my play on it was when you get to 6 months, you will notice that burning fat is a lot easier.
41:35Speaker 2the last question, like, why do you take it fasted? She didn't ask that, but it's helpful to tell people, like, especially the secretagogues, there's a lot of these Pepatides you don't need to Like take it
42:02Speaker 2and that food and sugar are competing for the same pathways. Right? And so essentially,
42:14Speaker 2they're gonna compete for the same pathways and, hey, you might not get all that get all the secretagogue because your body's processing-
42:22Speaker 2them like in the best of them. Yeah. Absolutely. And then also sugar, right? Like just, sorry, when our insulin is increased,
42:34Speaker 2the secreting effects are just blunted. It just will not work as well. K? If you have sugar carbs on board. K? There's that quickly. Okay. Your other person, I agree. So I agree on this 1. I think that more on the the growth.
42:49Speaker 2I just don't do that at your age of 32. Like, I don't know if it's gonna really work that much. Yeah. Because your growth hormone's
43:09Speaker 1And I would love to see who if you're hearing this, which I hope you asked it, so I hope you watch and listen,
43:22Speaker 1Gosh, man. Like it's, I was really blown away when I was having younger guys have their blood work done. I was like, dude, woah, it's an epidemic out there, man. It's the food. It's poison. It's hormone,
43:44Speaker 2So 1 of the reasons, you know, 100 years ago, people had way higher tests and were more just virile because they had to take Worked
43:51Speaker 2showers, and it was cold, and their body had they had to go kill their food and work hard. Right?
43:56Speaker 2That all that stuff, right We need it. Is higher gives you higher testosterone. Yeah. Sitting in the couch and doing nothing in the desk job and keeping the temp the heat all nice and taking nice, comfortable, warm showers and,
44:15Speaker 1ways, whether don't I don't know how good this works, but, I mean, there's been studies done where, like, like,
44:21Speaker 1sitting by a tree. I know that sounds woo woo, but sitting by a tree, you're like walk grounding, meaning like taking your shoes off and walking on the ground, sitting by a tree. We don't do that. And people don't do that anymore. We don't walk on the grass. We don't do those types of things. They used to do those things all the time.
44:39Speaker 2good. Good enough. Get back to the old school, man. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I would. Sitting on the couch with a controller. Yeah. Not doing anything. He needs some twinkies and going, what? Testosterone low. Yes.
44:50Speaker 2Right. This is I mean, part of the reason is, hey, you know, cold cold plunges, that's 1 of the reasons that will help. Your body just you can shock the shit out of your body. Yeah. And it will help your your testosterone.
45:02Speaker 2Okay. And then finally, yeah, you you help you did say, hey. Should I microdose each? There
45:11Speaker 2It's daily. It is daily, daily, daily, daily, daily. I would say, I know everybody would be surprised if you actually knew what he tells you, but if you believed him on the
45:21Speaker 2doses of testosterone and HGH that he takes, I've known him for a long time. Like, you can't take that much testosterone.
45:28Speaker 2I don't think you ever have taken more than 200 or you haven't been like, oh shit, this is bad for me.
45:33Speaker 2And yes, he's at 1 IU of growth, maybe 2 and 2 nowadays. But personally, go between like 2 to 3 IUs of growth. I would say that there's no, I would don't go more than 4. Some people are saying, are you just going to go higher? Well, let's talk about it for a 2nd because the 1 thing, the difference, if you compare me and you, 1, you're a lot bigger, but like that's the obvious with 2,
45:55Speaker 1you don't stay on it more. I'm not necessarily doing it in perpetuity, but I've taken a lot longer than you do. I think you kind of go off and on it more than I do. So I think that, like, if you did it from the standpoint of that, you could get away with some 3. Yeah. Sometimes 4. That is true. That is true. But here's but people, I don't get off of it on purpose. There's just been different times in my life that I've stopped.
46:26Speaker 2Everybody knows what that means. I'm going to lower the hell out of my testosterone, like take really like, I'm not getting off completely. Like you said, we'll let God sort it out. Yeah.
46:48Speaker 2work with or have, our main kind of doctor or chemist has told me that I should probably get off the growth, but I don't but I've also talked to different doctors and they said, get on and grow.
47:00Speaker 2I'm definitely, I'm gonna drop it down to 1 IU. I would like to ask And him super low. Did he say why? Did he elaborate on the why? No, but I can get that answer. That would be interesting. I can get the answer. So, but I think I'm gonna drop it down to 1 IU and drop down my test down to really low
47:22Speaker 2super expensive. Folks like incubate, like 75 IU bottles. Right? And that's basically your daily dose. You're killing a bottle a day. Yeah. I don't know. I think I may just not do that and then see if it works, but I but I'm not talking and I'm actually kind of preparing. I don't expect to have sex once and, like, pregnant because because I long time. I think you can do it for a long period, like HCG. Yeah. Yeah. Thousand IUs 3 times a week. Yep. I think you're golden. It'll take a while. And I will take- But you can't,
48:00Speaker 2So, that's what I'm gonna do. And and this data is not just me just making shit up. Gotta, you know- No, no, no. There's
48:07Speaker 1been we've talked about it a lot and I, my wife has probably listened to this, so close yours, honey. So I'm not gonna like, because she's gonna ask, she's be, I'll get out of clomiphene. She wants to have another baby. You know how I know because she tells me every day. Yeah. Honey, I love you. She's listening for sure. She likes the show, but like Enclomiphene works.
48:21Speaker 1Then, yeah, I mean, there's, there's ways to expedite things and do it a little bit faster.
48:27Speaker 1Even the, even the thousand I use Monday, Wednesday, Friday, it's not a cheap dig. Like, you know, HCG is not a cheap gig. That's a 9 month play give or take. So you gotta know that it's, if you want to stay on testosterone and your bride or girlfriend wants to have a baby, it's not going to be the cheapest thing. It's not going to be the cheapest thing. Yeah. And also just jumping
48:55Speaker 2maybe start to see some results, right? A year that's when it starts, we get real good benefits. 5
49:02Speaker 2you know, you're going to look 1 as young as you did 5 years ago. Right? That is a, it's a long term place, a budget for it. There's no point to do it for 2, 3 I always say, I always say like, just think logically, why don't all the movie stars on HGH? Because it freaking works when they stay younger.
49:18Speaker 2Right? Just be logical. And when you start growth, everybody just realized this. You will feel a little bit lethargic the 1st couple weeks. Okay?
49:24Speaker 2That's normal. That's good. Yep. Then you start getting kinda like swollen knuckles, little little kind of tingling. Those are all good signs.
49:33Speaker 2The tiredness goes away, so just deal with it. Your body's basically using more calories. Right? It's trying to grow.
49:38Speaker 2Trying to grow everywhere. Right? And and that makes us tired. The same reason you do leg day and you're tired tomorrow. You're not tired because if it's like, it's a hangover because you worked so hard yesterday. No. No. You're tired right now because your muscles right now just got got tore down yesterday, and they are still they're using a lot of calories to re repair themselves. And that overall caloric burn saps your energy. Okay.
50:20Speaker 25 11 and weigh 1 85, around 10% body fat. Cool. Trying to lean up a bit more. My current stack is Enclomiphene,
50:31Speaker 2slash Ipah, with Ipah. I recently got Reta from my doc at 1 mg a week. Just had labs done, and my test was 1100, and Estradiol was 75.
50:52Speaker 2I don't think the Retta or AI have anything to do with each other whatsoever, so I would say get on the Reta. He's on the Reta though, didn't he say? No. He just he just got it from his doc. Got it. Got it. So the estradiol is too high.
51:06Speaker 2I agree that, like, you shouldn't be taking as much testosterone to need an AI, and long term use of an AI is not good for you for various, various reasons. Yeah. But
51:23Speaker 2Right? Get that down. And I don't know if you're feeling it. I'm seeing these side effects, effects, like your main guys with, if your estrogen is too high, I can tell you immediately as soon as my estrogen is high,
51:34Speaker 2Acne. We start seeing like little dotted out and then actually just having your more oily skin breaking out. What the hell? Don't know.
51:48Speaker 2Okay. That's not good. You need to you need to stop that immediately. Take an AI right now because what your body is doing is building fat underneath your nipples. It's just trying to build you women's breasts.
52:02Speaker 2If you build up even a little bit of fat in there, you would need to get it cut out. You can't burn that fat off. Yep.
52:16Speaker 2everywhere, not just I'm not talking about stomach bloat, but just your body's retaining water. Your estrogen is too high and, you know, general mood swings. So just think of like, if you're a woman, if you're turning into a woman,
52:28Speaker 2You're crying a lot. I'm crying a lot. What is wrong with always complaining about like, oh, I'm retaining water up here, and that's because their estrogen's higher. Right.
52:38Speaker 2those 2 don't have anything to do with each other. I would get on the Retta. I would also take an estrogen blocker, an AI, and a Strozole probably,
52:46Speaker 2and get that balanced and then take it out a little bit. You gotta find your sweet spot. Alright?
53:07Speaker 2test dose where you don't need the AI. But if you want to take a whole bunch of tests, you're going to need a little bit of AI. Take as little as possible.
53:15Speaker 2but maybe you're not even taking tests because you're taking Enclomiphene. As is it Enclomiphene that busted that? But still, maybe you're in Enclomiphene. It's just maybe you're There's not those. Maybe your natural test, bro, is really good, and you don't need the Enclomiphene. Pretty true. I mean, 1,100 ain't off the charts, but it's probably 3 a little high for what's the free
53:33Speaker 1Like There's another piece of that puzzle that will tell a little bit because if you're 1,100 on your total tests and like 6 on your free test, there's something wrong.
53:45Speaker 1the estrogen is, is really strange because as hopefully you guys, if you haven't didn't go and watch the last episode that we had with Doctor. Scott, because it was such a, it was such a great conversation.
53:55Speaker 1I'm 2 with 2 of my best friends talking about stuff. Love to talk about like, dude, this is what I do for a living. It's crazy. But
54:02Speaker 1talked with Doctor. Scott after the show about some estrogen stuff, and he likes to be as estrogen, estradiol at 50, which to me seems extremely high because from what I read,
54:24Speaker 1you know, you know what I mean? It wasn't methylating and things like that. It's all going to play a role
54:34Speaker 1Do you convert to estrogen? Does it cause gyno? Like for Will, he doesn't really get gyno. I've got gyno since he's known me. Like if I go, if I go over 180,
54:43Speaker 1I'd know it because I convert estrogen. So again, these are things that play such a role where
54:59Speaker 1So I'll tell you, like, there's people that say you need to do a Retrutide once a week and it's the science, all this stuff. Okay, cool. Well,
55:06Speaker 1we know a lot of people that have done Retrutide and we have found with our hands on, so to speak of seeing people's progress, they do better micro dosing.
55:16Speaker 1Now science can say this, but this says this what's right or wrong. You can choose and whatever you want. So I hope that didn't confuse the situation by my mean, these numbers are great.
55:26Speaker 1You do need to say what your free test is because that does play a role with it. If it's a wide range of something wrong, and again, you might not even need the Enclomiphene,
55:46Speaker 1the free test is really what you're using in like sex drives energy and things like that. So you're going to want to know what that is. If you did get your blood work done without that, get that. And
56:01Speaker 2of Reta is like 2.5 mg a week. Okay. Doc told you to go 1 mg a week. That's like really, really, really low. Now the fact that you are, I mean, you're a great candidate because you're, you're, if you're 43, you're 5 11, 1 85 at 10%. 10% means we can see your abs. Right? You are in damn good shape. Right? You can do 1 twice. It might actually be pretty good. Maybe 1 mg twice a week.
56:29Speaker 2obviously is high. I mean, and bro, you're trying to lose weight or look even more chiseled that high estrogen's just gonna kill that. Yeah. You're going be
56:38Speaker 2And maybe, like you said, with these blood tests, like, I don't know if you are feeling any of those symptoms that I just said, if you're not feeling any symptoms,
56:52Speaker 2if you are feeling symptoms, you've got to do something about that estrogen immediately. Immediately.
56:56Speaker 275 is definitely high. I mean, is definitely like, you're probably, if you're Gynoprone, you're definitely getting Gynop. And hopefully you're not just like, damn, I can't get leaner. Got to take more supplements and all of this is just water retention that you're making that's making you look like a little bit plumper that you don't wanna be, and it would've just been fixed.
57:14Speaker 2a milligram of Anastrozil 3 to 3 times a week. Right? For you, I don't know. I'd probably start at, like,
57:25Speaker 2by 0.5 a milligram a week to pull it down. And then your goal is to take as little as possible when having,
57:46Speaker 1Any peptides that help with energy that you would get from taking Vyvanse or at all? Not really. I mean, nothing's that good. So,
57:54Speaker 1I mean, I don't know. It's not a peptide, but modafinil is rad. And we've never really even talked about that on this-
58:06Speaker 2like prescription only smart pill. They call it the limitless pill. Limitless pill, right? Like it has AKA
58:18Speaker 2it doesn't give you, it doesn't make you like kind of cracked out feeling that that a that a actual,
58:46Speaker 2it's more of like an antidepressant, but it's gonna give you energy and happiness. Yeah.
58:51Speaker 1Yeah. There's gonna be none that like kind of hold up to Adderall. There's gonna be some that like, you know, and again, like some of it's contingent on how your, how your body is, like your mitochondria and things like that. Like NAD
59:03Speaker 1is known for some people to give energy. I feel like it does whether it does not. I feel like it does. So it works for me. And I've said it numerous times, they take it at 02:00. And
59:13Speaker 1that has worked for me. I do take the midafinil before every podcast unless I forget, but it's a little quick side note of funny story about mid affinil when Will and I
59:24Speaker 1started working together about a year ago, give or take, I had never heard of it. So, he was saying, try this and I took a, took 1 and
59:31Speaker 1I think it took 1 the next day and I was super freaking focused. I didn't really realize that that was how well it worked. And I was like, man, I am just on fire today, maybe. And I'm just like, dude, dude, dude, like, just feel like I could work in and like, was like 06:30 and I should be going home, but I like, I was just in it. And he's a little, did you take that? I'm like, yeah, he's like, that's what it was. You remember that? I'm like,
59:52Speaker 1oh man, no, but if you do take it though too much, it doesn't. It's not habit for me because if you take it too much, it stops working. So I take 1 before a podcast. I know that you get more focused.
1:00:04Speaker 1Yep. And it's not- I'm not an ally, but I hear that you have razor focus, so I don't know if you could compare it, but I get super focused
1:00:12Speaker 1on monaffinil and it's not habit forming. So try it. Yeah. It's not like there's no euphoria.
1:00:17Speaker 2Yeah. You don't feel energy. You don't feel fussed. Overall, there is low euphoria. So, like, that's why it makes it addictive
1:00:30Speaker 2I've known less people who get addicted to everything. I do too. And I'll take my nap, and I'll be like, meh. You're here. I'll try it. Can stop. But, like, usually, everything I take, this makes me feel a little bit great. Yeah. Like, I'm in all day long.
1:02:26Speaker 2let's say, like, it's okay if you step down and then, damn, you're getting maybe a rush of hunger and not quite like it. Like, it's okay. Hey. Just maybe ride that up. Maybe stay at that that dose for a couple of weeks and then continue with your taper. Okay. Don't be so rigid. Listen to your body.
1:02:43Speaker 2But other than that, dude, yeah, I got no good. Sounds like you've, you have thought through
1:02:49Speaker 2it and that's absolutely what I would do. 0 Yeah. I mean, I don't have anything much more. I don't take Tesofensine. I don't personally
1:03:30Speaker 2not saying I just, some people take that. Okay. Good stuff. You're up. All right. Dubar question number 1.
1:03:49Speaker 1there are different amounts of the peptides in the vial? Thanks again for the great content.
1:04:02Speaker 1can, the best way that I can answer it is I can answer it in many different ways, but it's
1:04:14Speaker 1and the TB-five hundred separately was the best way to do it. And I believed it at the time until the Wolverine did come out. We had read about it for a while and read some different things on how it worked and blah, blah, blah. So because I read some negative things about the blend, I kind of had that perspective
1:04:39Speaker 1where I could not raise my hand, my arm above my head. But when the woman Ray came and we got it, I,
1:04:48Speaker 1amazing. I'm not kidding. 3 days I was like, Oh my God, I'd not raised my arm, my shoulder forever. And I had taken TB and BBC separately. So not saying the blend was like magic, but it worked for me. And then when I had the surgery,
1:05:10Speaker 1because I was told to by someone we respect heavily that knows a lot about this stuff and
1:05:18Speaker 1that's how I'll answer it. I think the blends are great. I know, you know, Doctor. Trevor and goes like that, I go on and on and on and off, and I'm not knocking him or not. Don't care. I think he's great. But he says the blends suck. I think the blends are great. I think they're awesome. I think that they're cheaper and you can get a lot from them.
1:05:34Speaker 1So I'm a fan of the blends. I think they work amazing. And the people that say that they don't,
1:05:50Speaker 2devoted their lives to the science of peptides and said, What's that? He said, Bro, like,
1:05:56Speaker 2okay. If there's a pH, there might cause a slight pH balance. So it might be a pH balance between those. And like, this is, this is the problem too, again, like on research, right? Even.
1:06:13Speaker 2under, you know, under the right conditions, if you have a tiny little bit of this, tiny bit, a little bit of that, it may
1:06:18Speaker 2negate each other. But he's like, dude, in real life, that difference that it's actually making is like
1:06:37Speaker 2so there's that. But the same thing with, I don't know, all these new there's a whole bunch of new peptides and like even supplements,
1:06:44Speaker 2a lot of the over the counter supplements and you read up on them. You're like, oh my goodness. Look at that. That's just amazing.
1:06:51Speaker 2Right? Like, reality. Like, But under a microscope, we could see the cell doing that, but it it translating
1:07:00Speaker 2Sorry. Point different. Like, it doesn't I mean, and just look at a whole bunch of these GNC
1:07:13Speaker 2I don't know what to tell you, I guess, because there's different blends, and I can't really say this is exactly how you're doing it. Let's let's talk about everything on blend, but here's, so for example, how about the glow? Okay. Most glows, the ones I know are 10 mg BPC,
1:07:47Speaker 2and then make it impossible for you to add 1 amount of water and then like, well, I can't possibly take that much. Right? Do it. Blends are made with
1:07:54Speaker 2in the same mind where you put the same amount of water in, now you're taking a correct dose.
1:07:58Speaker 2But I generally is gonna am gonna put 20 or put 2 MLs of water in. Here's how the math works in my brain. I'll go up.
1:08:07Speaker 2This doesn't work for everybody, but you got 10 mgs. We have 10 mgs. We have 50 mgs. Okay? I put 2 mils of water. How my brain works is I know that
1:08:30Speaker 2intervals of tens in 1. Okay. Well, 2, there's gonna be 20. So I take the milligram. I got 10 mg and I divide that by 20. That will tell me how many milligrams is in 10.
1:08:56Speaker 2because again, I did 50 divided by 20, 10 divided by 20, 10 divided by 20, Frank. And that is about, that's about the low dose that you want. I
1:09:16Speaker 2I wouldn't do any more than 20 units. 10 will give you 0.5, 0.5, 2.5, 20 will give you 1 mg, 1 mg, and 5 mg.
1:09:25Speaker 2The problem there is you don't really want to do more GHKC than that. Yeah. But if you didn't have the glow, didn't have GHKCU,
1:09:31Speaker 2shoot, run it, like get take up to shit. I mean, I think 2 mg per injection of BPC and TB 500 is great. So like if you have the Wolverine blend 10, 10,
1:09:50Speaker 2hundred. Okay. I would make the math easy. You got 30, 30. Let's add 3 mils of water.
1:09:56Speaker 2That makes everything kind of work out really easy. So just following along with this with my calculator here.
1:10:35Speaker 1Everybody's brain just works differently. Sorry. That's how I do quick math. I don't know. Might be wrong.
1:10:42Speaker 1for a long time. He's good at it. But it works. You're good. I guess I have a way. You're good at it. I don't know if that helped at all, but yeah. Oh, man. There's calculators. Yeah. Just and I still use a calculator just to be sure. True that. Okay. That's Big zone, big no. Okay. Hey, guys.
1:11:04Speaker 2Now with that, I'll give you my background. I'm 5 8, 1 90, 10% body fat. Right? Used to be a power lifter, but changed lifestyle for longevity.
1:11:12Speaker 2Started running this year. Dropped 25 pounds and completed 1.5 marathons the past 6 weeks to cap off 20 25. Damn. How do your knees feel? Shin.
1:11:27Speaker 2My main focus isn't fat loss. It's increasing my endurance and ability to run while not compromising my strength.
1:11:34Speaker 2I have, I have to have fuel to run 25 to 30 miles in a week. Yeah. Hybrid athlete is what I guess is what,
1:11:43Speaker 2is it's being called in this day and age. Hybrid athlete. Nice. Thanks so much for all you do. So the goal, the question was shed some light on peptides for endurance.
1:12:16Speaker 2You as an endurance athlete, I don't know if it's me, maybe I'm 2 50 and I've ran a lot, but like, damn, dude, running,
1:12:30Speaker 2Yeah. For sure. There's definitely might wanna heal yourself. Right? You're gonna get some serious plus any secretagogue.
1:12:54Speaker 2just not too much. Not too much at all. Right? You do not there's a reason I don't know. People will argue with this, but, like,
1:13:05Speaker 2any of these really endurance heavy sports. You're not doing much steroids. K? People say, oh, yeah. They are. No. They're not.
1:13:11Speaker 2Sorry. I've I've been there. I've known them. I played there. I know the NFL, but I played in the high level college. Like, it's not an accept maybe bay baseball? Yes.
1:13:22Speaker 2dude, it's just your heart just goes to shit. Your endurance goes to shit. Your muscle you you're you're too strong. Yeah. Yeah. If you're running you're too strong. You tear all your muscles down. You do. Your tendons tear. I think I was getting geared. Was getting hurt. You're always getting hurt. So for an endurance athlete, like, cool. You do tests. It's not very much. K? Shit.
1:13:39Speaker 1That's about, I think, all I got right now. Yeah. Those are good. I won't say the same SLU. I will just be redundant on that 1 because I think that is gonna be the best 1, but a couple that you didn't, that I I I suggested would be a couple of the mitochondria where it's gonna be fat oxidation would be the 2 we love. Then I know that you, when I say this, you're going to know already, it's going be the MOTS-3.0
1:14:00Speaker 1So adding those onto what he said would be great because it's going to help with the
1:14:08Speaker 1and it's just going to get help with the endurance. And if I'm assuming, you know, fat oxidation is, body's using the fat and burning the fat. Why do people do a ketogenic diet or a carnivore type diet?
1:14:19Speaker 1Now, there are a few people that would fight against this, obviously, because I've heard them, but like
1:14:23Speaker 1when you're using fat as a fuel, it's a more sustainable fuel. So you don't have these, you know, it's a sustainable fuel. So when you're using the fat as your energy, gonna give you more calories. Oh, I want to add something to history. The Mongolian,
1:14:36Speaker 2the Mongol army, right, like back in ancient times, they kicked everybody's ass. Right? 1 of their biggest things, why they kicked so much ass is they didn't they didn't have a bunch of servants carrying all their grain and all this bullshit. You know what they did? Ate meat.
1:14:50Speaker 2Yep. They ate meat and they eat a lot of fat. So they all, and they could just ride lean, not carrying a bunch of stuff and were fueled and had a whole bunch of energy that sustained shit out of them. They could have not eaten for a while. This giant,
1:15:06Speaker 1Yeah, because they were on ketogenic diet. Know that what they would do, this is a lot of people don't know this is they would melt fat and drink it as coffee.
1:15:13Speaker 2Yep. There you go. So we can they that that was energy. It was pure energy. You're drinking fat. Yep. They could make they had cows that they would just yank with them for for milk,
1:15:27Speaker 1And so it's, it's, I mean, everything's gonna be a matter of opinion. You do, Will and I are such advocates for the fact that where,
1:15:35Speaker 1you know, do you figure out what works for you? You know, I think most people at this point know I'm a high fat guy. I love it. I love running on fat, but it's not for everybody. Some people don't, like, there's a lot of people that track macros, a lot of people for the glucose, blah, blah, blah. But, so final works for you. I think that, we answered that, but, that was that was great, man. Think The other reason for the ketogenic or the other reason for the secretagogs, brother, this is what you said. It's like, you're burning a ton of calories.
1:15:59Speaker 2You don't your biggest goal is not burn fat is to not lose muscle. So secretive arch. Oh, really HGH, dude. Especially if it's what's gonna protect your muscle. Absolutely.
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