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0:35Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way, my good buddy, my friend and co host Worcester William T. Hoss.
0:46Speaker 1Hello. What's up, dude? How are you doing? I was gonna say that we are learning about show business. Ladies and gentlemen, we have cameras all over us. We have a sound gal. We're learning. We're learning. So you get to learn with us. So I want to talk to you ladies and gentlemen at home. I'm going to look there. If we want to talk together, we look there. So now you know.
1:08Speaker 2with us. So I thought that's kind of cool. Yeah, if we had to- We'd be looking at the wrong place. We're learning,
1:24Speaker 1I hope you guys have been enjoying it at home. We have been enjoying it and we're just trying to enhance the experience, sound better, look better.
1:37Speaker 1going to the Super Bowl. I know, dude. Everybody keeps asking me, we'll go to the Super Bowl? I'm like, I don't know. Ask him. I don't care enough to spend $20. Is that what they are? Yeah. Well, so like right now- Up in the nosebleeds are $20. No. Right now the tickets are $7.
2:19Speaker 1in San Jose. It's the funniest thing. My wife is going to laugh because I know she listens to the podcast, especially this 1. She loves this podcast in particular, but when
2:32Speaker 1And here's my thing. And like a lot of people aren't going to agree with this, but I don't know anybody on the team,
2:38Speaker 1so I don't care who wins. So it's just, that might be silly to people. I don't have a team.
2:43Speaker 1I would rather either play football because I loved it, You know, I was pretty good at it, but,
2:48Speaker 2I just don't watch it. No, I understand that. Like my girl's a better, more bigger fan than I. Oh, really? She's like, woah, money at football. You played.
3:01Speaker 2like, people who have played fantasy football, I don't I have no interest in doing that. Yeah. Like, I don't really want and I'm more just I enjoy watch I'm less of a like, I'm not my heart is not gonna be broken. I will they will put me in no good or bad mood if we win or lose. It's just cool. Like, my mom's all excited.
3:17Speaker 2It also is a bit different if you're actually living in the city. Yeah. You know, you're a Ziox fan, you're living there like everybody, you know, just the atmosphere, everybody kind of gets you, like, gets you more pumped up. Just kind of, you
3:29Speaker 2fall into that, that mass thinking, right? Yeah. So it's easier to not be that much of a fan here.
3:37Speaker 2But yeah, fans, the experience know. The experience is When you go into a football game, it's a powerful experience, especially like the Rams stadium, like, wow. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll argue the CR Stadium is a lot better than the Rams Stadium. Oh, is it right? Yeah. I mean, the Rams Stadium's newer, but my idea of experience is so much better than the CR Stadium. I've been to both for while since. Oh, really? Oh, wow. Yeah. But
3:57Speaker 2it's just like, stadiums on those 2 is too damn comfortable, and you're watching that they have this giant TV. You're basically like Huge. Oh, I'm watching the TV again. I shouldn't be watching the game, the real life. What am I doing? Why am I even here? Right? But the Seattle, it feels like you're actually
4:15Speaker 2You know, a little bit fans are a lot better in Seattle. Are they? Sorry, LA people. Yeah. Touche. I mean, they are because it's a small city. How did he get stabbed? I don't know. Yeah. It's a small city. They just,
4:26Speaker 2right? They don't have that much more LA people. They have so much to worry about and think about. So many damn teams. Right? There's very
4:35Speaker 2Like, in the Ram Stadium, the whole time, that jumbotron is trying to tell you, get scream louder. Get pumped up. True for a team. Right? Does it say that literally? All yeah. Oh my god. The whole time. It's actually really annoying. Seattle, they don't ever even say that, and your ears are ringing, and people did not sit down the entire game. Now it was a playoff game, so that makes a bit of difference. But
5:00Speaker 2football in general. Just because of watching. Not so much. Like I enjoy that. People take it very extreme. People take it really seriously. Not saying your name is Brett. Know For sure if you're listening. Yeah. Know nobody in there. Those guys don't care about me. So I'm not going to have my
5:14Speaker 1day ruined. Yeah. Do you have a team? No. I don't know anybody on the team. So why would I have a team? Anyway, eats his own, like I know a lot of people love it. My wife see how we think, you know, when, so when I started dating her, she's like, oh my God, love that you don't watch football.
5:27Speaker 1So it was a win win for her. But so How about video games? Like- No, don't play video games. I know. Yeah. No, absolutely not. So no, I got a lot of motivation,
5:35Speaker 1man. I'm not going to sit home and play video games. I'm going to do some fuck, some work done. Yes. I don't see how people do that. With a gym, I'll do something productive, dude.
5:51Speaker 1since my sons were born. You get kids, man. And like, they just, they just, you just, I don't know if I'm listening, if I'm doing anything and watching YouTube on something that I'm trying to learn,
6:02Speaker 1you know, I'm always listening to peptide stuff. I'm always listening to carnivore stuff and just trying to get better at my crafts, so to speak. You know what I mean? And I frankly nowadays I'd rather read than watch TV. I think that that is legitimately more entertaining to me. Yeah. You've always been like that. Yeah. But not as a kid, like not as I was, I mean,
6:22Speaker 2I've always hated, I hated reading. My parents, I was little, when I was young and like kind of junior high, took me into Sylvan Learning Centers,
6:29Speaker 2which is like, they thought I had like a learning disability. They said this kid just like hates doing homework. Right? So I did all the tests and I tested out, like, the 97th percentile, and they're like, your kid's just lazy or he just hates reading. Actually, this is what they said. So my mother's college English no. Actually, my mother's a college English teacher,
6:47Speaker 2and she would so when your parents would read you books and your little kid and parents would read you the Clifford, the big red dog, my mom read me the entire Iliad and the Odyssey, which is a badass book for a young boy. Right? There's you're you're killing everybody with spears and there's monsters and and mythical stories, but she would read it to me. And basically they said, look, dude, you're such a good reader and he's used to listening to you read. He reads, it doesn't sound like you. So he doesn't want to do it, but he's still good at it in his own terms. They had me read and doing reading comprehension.
7:29Speaker 2mom did. My mom's just like, I just don't understand how you don't love doing homework. Yeah.
7:35Speaker 1Like, you've what? Really? You're kidding me. Then you become punk rocker like me and like punk rockers, it's kind of just a rebellious. I came out of the womb with a Mohawk dude, so got to be old enough. I was good at sports, so that kind of kept me in line, but I was just like, yeah, I don't like homework, so I'm just not going to do it. So that was a problem with my parents. But when you have a kid that just
7:53Speaker 1doesn't really care that much, how do get to make it? I was a rough kid. Tough. I was a rough kid. Yeah. That's why I'm attracted to the punk rock scene. So,
8:07Speaker 1Now we did, if you'll watch my stories, it all dropped it to let you guys know that we are doing it a little bit differently. How we generally have been doing it is
8:17Speaker 1the podcast we record, we run through them really quickly and we kind of just talk through them. That's kind of what we have been doing today.
8:35Speaker 1talk about this stuff often, but today might be a little bit of a different flare. So let's dive in. Okay. Do the honor. Number 1.
8:53Speaker 2You want me to run it? Go ahead. Top 5 peptides. Okay, so curveball, I would imagine you're all going to think I'm going say Retta, but I'm not. It's on my top. I'm going to say that Wolverine is definitely my top. If I could only choose 1, it would be the Wolverine because I will lift weights to the day that I die.
9:10Speaker 2if you do that, you are in pain a lot. I have shoulder injuries. I don't get tendinitis as much, knock on wood, but I used to get it a lot. I have back problems. So anyways, I'm going to take the Wolverine stack, which is for people that don't know, is TB-five
9:26Speaker 2Thymosin beta-four, and it is gonna be, BBC-one hundred 57, which those that blend, in my opinion, is freaking amazing.
9:40Speaker 1done that numerous times. So any of that will be into my number 1. Now, number 2 will be, it's
9:51Speaker 1is the best pound for pound peptide on the planet. I don't know if anything's going to ever come close to it, what it does. It is almost for everybody on the planet, except if you're already too skinny. If you're a skinny, dinky little gal like my wife, no way is she taking it? She would wither away.
10:11Speaker 1if you, you know what I mean? It's for everybody. So I use it just to give me that little edge to stay leaner.
10:23Speaker 1will be, I am a cutter guy. I like to say super lean. So I'm going to throw in my AOD-nine
10:31Speaker 1Well, I just did a podcast on it last week. It dropped on Monday. Hopefully you saw it. If you didn't check it out because it's great. So AOD
10:39Speaker 1is the last piece of the HGH chain and all it does is burn fat and you can take pretty high doses of it because it doesn't increase your IGF-one.
10:48Speaker 1It doesn't have any negative effects of the growth hormone that some people worry about. So that will be my number 3.
10:56Speaker 1gosh, this is actually thrown HGH, which actually probably might be my number 2, but anyways, HGH Somatropin
11:17Speaker 1And I could keep going, but they're Yeah. They're just freaking amazing. Yeah. Mean, they're just freaking amazing. So Alright. Have similar 1. So I
11:25Speaker 2won't reexplain your explanations. Alright? Retta also. Yeah, dude. Number 1? Just hit his has to be. Like, I don't
11:32Speaker 2don't take in a whole For bunch 200 of for you? Oh. Well, no. I mean, I guess these are just the top 5 best peptides
11:39Speaker 2in general. Not not in order and not So let's put them in order. Let's say, well, you had to choose 1 BPC-CTV.
11:45Speaker 2Okay. Because also, yes, I will lift weights till the day I die. And anybody who knows, right, we may look good, but like you don't really feel like that sometimes. Everything
11:55Speaker 2is hurting and that- But we still go. It makes a huge difference. And no doubt, like you're like, I haven't had tendonitis in a while. Probably because you're taking BPC-400HRP-100HRP-100HRP-100HRP-100HRP-1.00HRP-1s):
12:11Speaker 2You said those 3 names and people might get confused thinking it was 3 things. But anyway I was trying to I was tapping into my William T. Hoss. Good view, bro.
12:28Speaker 2Why? Oh, that surprises me. It's it's like it's tough for men. It's tough for men out there with peptides
12:38Speaker 2And that's 1 of your strongest muscle builders. So that thing's awesome. You can't run a very long 4 to 6 weeks or so, but
12:46Speaker 2yes, effective. Then I'll do another blend. Maybe that's cheating, right, because we're saying 2 at a time, but Tesamorelin,
13:02Speaker 2Put together, you should always take both. Well, I think you should always take both. One's gonna tell your body, make more natural growth hormone. The other 1 is just gonna kind of amplify those growth hormone pulses, the Ipamorelin is. But Tasamorelin is like clinically proven to burn stubborn belly fat. I say stubborn belly fat, but it was actually developed by
13:20Speaker 2AIDS patients, for AIDS patients who had this like fat freezing, which was in their stomach, their abdominal like fat would freeze and that was
13:30Speaker 2basically was lethal to them. So they developed Tesamorelin to just literally target burn that stomach fat.
13:41Speaker 2mother, you know, everybody except for maybe young kids will benefit from their, from increased natural HGH. And
13:54Speaker 2like that stuff, dude. I really, really like it. It gives it's a it's a new topic. It gives like energy, it gives physical energy,
14:08Speaker 2newer, tighter, etcetera. So long term use, hell, that stuff's awesome. And then Retta. Yeah, I don't use it that much, but I mean, it just is
14:21Speaker 2like safe. Like this shit's good for you. It is good for you if you don't abuse it, you know? Like straight up, none of these, I mean, all these actually are none of these are bad for you. Now IGF-one can be bad for you if you take it
14:39Speaker 1So yeah. Yeah, I think that was a great question. I think a better question would have been what's your top
14:49Speaker 1turn. Great question whoever asked that. So I'm running Tesa Ipamorelin, but I want to switch back to CJC Ipamorelin and
15:13Speaker 1if that's okay. If that's okay. Thank you guys for everything. I love the brand and podcast.
15:29Speaker 2Alright. So, yeah, I'll give you the doses. So 1st of all, yeah, cool. That's okay. Well, it's okay to run it's okay, 1st of all, to switch from Tesa Ipah to CJC
15:38Speaker 2Ipah. Awesome. You should after you run, you know, I don't know, 16 weeks of Tesa Ipah, great. Switch to the other 1. That's
16:07Speaker 2I would do, I don't know if you're a man or a woman, I probably would give a woman a little bit less of a dose, but I personally take like 1000,
16:28Speaker 2of each, right? Tesla and Ipah or CJC and Ipah, and you slowly titrate up. Okay. Again, if you start too high and you get water retention, well, that's why. Then you need to drop her down and then slowly titrate up. So might as well just start correctly and let your body get used to it, and that's why it didn't titrate up. So
17:10Speaker 2But your body will build a tolerance, go 4 to 6 weeks ending at, I don't know, probably I would try not to get up to 80, but I would try to end at like 60, maybe 70 micrograms. But that's a slow even
17:34Speaker 1So I think the stack is great. I think it's very thought through. I mean, you pretty much cover everything and you're, you're, you're adding in the Tesof Ipamorelin. Are you going back to the CDC? I'm assuming you're a man. Didn't say,
17:46Speaker 1I think the Tesla, it was better. I would stick with the Tesla, who am I? I don't know, just an opinion.
17:56Speaker 1soon because we haven't really dug into that deeply. I recently used it for the 1st time and I didn't have the best experience with it. We've talked about that. So we're going to dig in that a little bit better. So I'm just not a fan of CJC, but a lot of people are so each his own.
18:14Speaker 1It's really good for the gut health. So I think you got that covered. You got your secretagogue where it's going to increase growth hormone. You got your MOTS-thirty
18:30Speaker 1I think that you got it covered. Thought through. I think you got it covered, man. I think whoever that you are, man or woman, that's a great sack and stuff.
18:46Speaker 2I was reading on Reddit that it's hard to know where to buy peptides from because so many places,
18:56Speaker 2but don't have endotoxin testing. This terrifies me. I had no idea the testing being done wasn't checking for harmful stuff being added to the mix. What should you look for when vetting a peptide vendor?
19:15Speaker 2I accidentally took double my dose and felt nothing. No nausea, nothing. I recently stumbled upon 1 that sells the peptides reconstituted,
19:24Speaker 2or testing in their site. I wanted to be careful. I'd love all the tips you have. Thanks for everything you put
19:31Speaker 2out for us. You 2 are the coolest. Hey. Alright. Thank you. Appreciate you. Okay. I got a couple of answers for you. Go for A,
19:45Speaker 2gimmick to make it easier on you. Like, look, it's easier on you. But dude, these things, as soon as you add water, as soon as you reconstitute, that thing is the clock starts ticking in on its effectiveness.
20:04Speaker 2most 3 of these things, when they warm up to room temp, they start degrading really fast. So chances are, I mean, they're just doing that- Is that cold air
20:12Speaker 1like- Rough. Yeah. Don't do that. Don't don't get there's no point to it. All you gotta do is add water, dude. Like Yeah. Really. It's it's easy to add to add for that. I I would not use a company like that. We can help you,
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20:53Speaker 2It tells you exactly how much water to add and makes it really, really, really easy. 2nd,
21:05Speaker 2Most and the Koas should have a little code that you can verify those tests, Right? You can go back to that independent lab
21:13Speaker 2and enter that code in and then the lab will it'll bring up that test. Okay? Oftentimes on these sites, they'll and usually the codes at the bottom, especially in Janosik tests,
21:22Speaker 2these sites will cut off the code. So no person doesn't know. They look at the test. Great. That looks good. But
21:28Speaker 2they cut off the code for a reason because they doctored the tests or whatever. Right? So make sure that you can verify
21:34Speaker 2the COAs. Now most of them, right, do not have endotoxin testing. I would also be very wary
21:40Speaker 2of any place that does in house testing, right? It's like they produce the best test and then they show you the report of them testing it
22:01Speaker 2toxins and things that I put that like harmful things that I've put in my body because I put some really harmful things in my body and I've still lived Right? Through
22:27Speaker 2it came back as 40. So now I know the endotoxin range, like an acceptable safe range is like below 2.
22:48Speaker 2I don't know. Who's to say, Maybe you just keep doing that and it becomes really bad. So I don't know.
23:00Speaker 2yeah, helped thousands of people take peptides and nobody's ever told me anything about any
23:28Speaker 2I don't know. Just like, here's the deal. I don't want to dissuade you from that, but I'm not that worried. Now I would rather use something to test out at the end of test test at 1 than 40, for sure. I'd be very wary. I wouldn't if I had if I had knew that, known that in advance, I wouldn't have done that. But guess what? I did it, then figured it out,
23:49Speaker 2But so, yeah, I don't know. What other questions? Go ahead and answer some other questions. I
23:53Speaker 1mean, so here's the thing. You don't say the dosage of your tirzepatide and you have to understand that everybody's very different. I mean, I am somebody that doesn't get nauseous. So,
24:14Speaker 1and I didn't feel anything like that. And I know that the tirzepatide that I took was good.
24:18Speaker 1So I'm not saying you're wrong or you're right. I'm just saying you might be different. You could be taking like 0.5 of a meg and then you doubled it and that's a full meg and that would be a low dose. So that
24:27Speaker 1could be the case. Again, I'm not questioning you. I'm just saying, what, how much are you taking?
24:40Speaker 1I am not a big fan of like pharmaceutical companies. If you've watched any of my channels, I'm pretty open about that.
24:59Speaker 1without going through pharmaceutical companies because they will take a monopoly and they'll charge us that they control the supply and demand aspect
25:12Speaker 1you have to kind of do the research on the company. There are great companies. There are great companies that have true COAs and they're not hard to find if they're legit or not
25:25Speaker 1get the real ones, they spend a lot of money on them. I speak with experience, so you know, like too much money, but like it's worth it to them so that their products are legit.
25:55Speaker 1if it's me, I'm not gonna buy the cheapest on the corner. Know, like the ones that are more expensive aren't necessarily expensive because they're trying to be expensive. That means they test their products and they have to pay for the test of the products and those testing costs quite a bit of money and that's the why. So that
26:11Speaker 1can help you kind of decipher that. So I hope that helps. I think we both answered that. So I hope that helps. On the Tirzepatide, like it sounds like you were
26:27Speaker 2it did nothing. So I don't know. Do, you know, we do build a tolerance. It sounds like you kind of knew what maybe you were talking about,
26:39Speaker 2but hell they sure could have. It also sounds like they gave it to you. It was all backwater, right? They gave it to you reconstituted.
26:46Speaker 2If that's the case, don't do that. That's probably why because they gave it, they may have reconstituted it. I don't know who knows how long before they actually gave it to you. They didn't keep it refrigerated. They let light get them in. They didn't put, I don't know, the backwater wasn't actually backwater. It was just sterile water, right? The whole point of backwater, the bacteria static water is to keep bacteria out of the peptide so it doesn't degrade.
27:13Speaker 2There could be a lot of reasons, man. I don't know. I have heard that a lot. I've heard that from, from,
27:17Speaker 2I've, I've heard that quite a few times. I think it's simple. Don't use a company that reconstitute their water for you. Just don't, don't get the water. It takes so easy. Talk to the company, email, email, email in the company you're writing for. A lot of these places are just,
27:30Speaker 2yeah, don't have a real, I mean, if they're a bigger, bigger outfit, right, and there's a
27:38Speaker 2you know, right, that makes the product, there's a lab, right, that is the lab and then you have a company that sells those peptides,
27:52Speaker 2For 0.5 the price of other companies. Yeah. Especially if it's cheap, right? There's somewhat of a,
27:57Speaker 2red flag, but talk to them, see if they actually have any infrastructure of like customer service, right? That'll tell you a lot. If they actually want to answer your questions or they just want to duck and dive and just take your money,
28:14Speaker 1for me as I discovered your podcast and I've started my fitness journey. Have nothing good,
28:32Speaker 1has elevated in the past couple of months, but my ultrasound came back normal. The PCP believes my rapid weight loss
28:40Speaker 1from GLP-two GLP-three might have produced lots of fatty acids in the liver and some now have fatty liver.
28:57Speaker 1I believe that will help combat my fatty liver. Let me know your thoughts. PS I did do a cycle of Anovar 50
29:12Speaker 1it can. So if you're going to lose weight too fast, that can affect your liver. So just a simple answer to keep it very simple. That's probably what happened. I personally wouldn't be worried 1 bit. You would recover. You've probably already recovered.
29:26Speaker 1Cause that's common. If you gain weight too fast, it's a problem. If you lose weight too fast, it's a problem. There's a problem as if anything's done too fast, like go slow and,
29:36Speaker 1can't work that fast because it's not used to it. So easy fix. It'll iron out. In my opinion,
29:42Speaker 1we might have a different opinion on that 1. And in regards to the ANNOVAR, let's talk about it real quick. I personally don't think the ANNOVAR from June or July is going to be a problem. I think if you had said you just took it, it could be a problem, but I don't think, I think 6, 7 months back. I would- Personally, especially Anabar's,
30:05Speaker 1cleaner, oil, oral. So I get where you're going with that, but I personally don't think that has anything to do 6, 7 months back. So that's my- It may it may have. Possible. It may have. Absolutely. I think it's the GLP-1. I don't know you- I think you
30:27Speaker 2what's going on with your doctor and your liver. Then you said you were going to go get this test and then tell us how it went. We said, hey, tell us how it went. I believe it was what, right?
30:39Speaker 2good. I'm glad the doctor isn't worried. Here's 1. You should try fasting. Like this is why. So people
30:46Speaker 2who are overeating and eating 6 meals a day, bodybuilders eating like we only have body our livers can only it's our filter, right? It can only just process that much food constantly coming Right?
30:58Speaker 2Like it's not good for your it's not great for your liver. This is and what is a good solution is fasting.
31:09Speaker 2And what does it do in the absence of having to overwork? It starts flushing, cleaning yourself out. This is why when people go fast, they
31:17Speaker 2start just shedding tons of water, right? You start doing some big intermittent fasting and
31:24Speaker 2I've lost like 10 pounds of just water weight. You look way leaner because the liver is finally working
31:38Speaker 2But I do think, man, you know, our liver is a resilient thing. It is 1 of the most important organs in our entire body. So don't want to be bad to it, but it also, since it's so effing important, it better be resilient. And
31:52Speaker 2The trick is to just not continually be rough on your liver. So thank you for the results. I'm glad that you're gonna be doing fine and, I would do that, yeah, continue with the RET, I think low dose and it actually will help.
32:08Speaker 2I do think that will really help the Tessa. Yeah. This is good. Alright. For sure. Good job. Who's that for you? So, yeah. Hi. Thanks for all you guys do. Love your content. I'm a 33 year old female, five'four,
32:24Speaker 2I want to lose some stubborn fat in my glutes. Why? And tricep area. Started low dose Reta about a month ago, 500 micrograms
32:34Speaker 22 times a week. Also started to glow about a month ago in SS-thirty 1 last week for some mitochondrial health. Do you recommend anything else right now, or should I wait till this cycle ends? Haven't really lost any weight on Retatr so far and feel hungry and thirsty on the day I inject.
32:50Speaker 2Then I feel satisfied full of subsequent days until the next injection. Good. Should I up my dose at all on that? Thanks again so much. Anything else you guys think to add in this current cycle or include in my next cycle is appreciated.
33:05Speaker 2So as a female at 15% body fat, damn, that's low. That's really low. That's low. Maybe or is that right? Like you still wanna lose fat after that?
33:28Speaker 2because you don't have enough fat to support a baby, so God will be like, nah. 33 years old. Can't have that. Men should be about 10%.
33:40Speaker 2would say that about 15% is equal to about 8% on the man. Okay. Okay. Lean. But lean. But women are supposed to have more fat. This is it is anyway.
33:50Speaker 2So, but whatever. Okay. Forget that. Maybe whatever you happen to be you and you want what you want. So that's fine.
33:57Speaker 2500 micrograms. So that's 0.5 a Mig twice a week. That's low. That is lower than the lowest starting dose. Starting dose is 2.5 mg, right? And so you're doing 1 mg.
34:10Speaker 2You will notice right after absolutely like day you inject, it really kind of does kick in like a day or 2 after. That's what people really notice. So you're you are feeling it, which no doubt because you're pretty small,
34:23Speaker 2but you could bump up if you wanted to and it will help. I would add in what you are taking now is not anything else for fat burning help.
35:00Speaker 2Even though the L Carnitine isn't bad. So that's all I got for you. That was great. And that was awesome you stole my answer.
35:08Speaker 1You thief. Thief, my bad. No, it's good. I think that he nailed it. I mean, like I said, I, my little bride is tiny. You know, she's asked a couple times, should I take Greta? I said, not. Not a chance in hell, babe.
35:20Speaker 1She's tiny. She's tiny. I remember her with her away. Like clonbuterol years ago. She's like, I want some. Yeah. Know. I'm like, you're tiny, baby. You don't get me. I mean, I've said this countless times, but I mean, a little bit goes a long way for you gals, man. It just does, especially if you're tiny. So you don't do need to do a lot of anything. You don't, you're going to like shine on anything.
35:38Speaker 1I would probably drop the Retta, even though we love Retta. But like I said, I wouldn't even give it to my bride. I would say AOD
35:44Speaker 1and Tessa, like those 2, I gave it to my wife and she was leaning. She got freaking chiseled, man. She got chiseled.
35:50Speaker 1Like right now she's tiny. I'm telling her to plump up a little bit. I'm a baby need to eat more. You know, I love her tiny, but like a little bit of chunk on her or a little bit of more weight on her. So anyways, each his own, but that's what we'll, we'll nailed it. You can, I would drop the Reta? I don't just don't think, I don't think you need it with your size. I think you can get there with other peptides that
36:20Speaker 1I mean, shoot, dude. Would love to know what your diet is too. You don't talk about that, but that would be great. Pretty good to be. So at, like, at 120 pounds Well, they maybe need to eat more. Like maybe that, like a lot of women have that they don't,
36:32Speaker 1that doesn't register for women because we've trained a lot of women. I know we both agree with that because women,
36:38Speaker 1that food thing for men, they get that for women. They just have a hard time thinking that sometimes more food actually does you better. My wife has that problem. Like baby eat more, you'll look, it will just a pioneer now. So
36:58Speaker 2equivalent to the amount of calories we take in. Alright? Why? Because when it was wintertime and food was scarce
37:08Speaker 2squirrel a day, if our metabolism stayed high like it did in the summertime, we would burn all of our tissue off and
37:24Speaker 2a lot of people, I mean, this is what we call a crash diet, right? You eat lots of calories, now we got this gap, so now I lose weight, but metabolism catches up after 2 weeks or so. Nobody can sustain a crash diet, metabolism's on the floor, you start eating again and all the weight comes back. For sure.
37:40Speaker 2That's basically probably the most typical. Yeah, absolutely. And but also muscle. So people lose weight, they end up losing, you know, they if they're losing a lot of weight, you end up losing decent amount of muscle. Again, our basal metabolic rate is tied to our lean muscle. So you lose the more muscle you lose,
38:01Speaker 2and low, think of it as slow and fat, or I mean, don't think of it as slow and fast, think of it as high and low. It's a number.
38:20Speaker 1That testimony won't help with that that, you know, some of that fat you're talking about. Yeah. So Alright. Hope that helps. Yep. Alright. Who's up? Me? You are
38:34Speaker 1Hey guys, absolutely loving the podcast. Thank you. Great info coming out from it. Looking forward to the new year with special guests as well.
38:44Speaker 1You know what I want to tell you real quick, me to pause, we're to have Doctor. Scott coming on next
38:52Speaker 1We're going to talk about blood work. We're going to talk about some cool stuff. So I meant to say that in the beginning. Doctor. Scott's coming on for, in 2 days, he'll be here live. It'll be cool. So the majority of the talk is about running SS-31Before
39:15Speaker 1Yes. That's what I would always think. Sorry. Yeah. You're good. Well, just wanted to get your thoughts on that. What's beneficial
39:23Speaker 1compared to separately? I'm 39 year old male resistance trained 3 to 35 year old male. Cool to get to know resistance training 3 to 3 times per week with heavy weight, average 8,000
39:45Speaker 12 Migs, Friday, Sunday, and Tuesday. Now, did you read that as 6 Migs or 2 Migs total? That was the listing. So 2 Migs Friday, Sunday, and Tuesday. I'm assuming that's 2 that's 6 Migs. Yeah. CJC
40:06Speaker 1to get 7 hours of sleep every night, but I work 4AM to 01:30 with an hour commute each way, which adds up to waking up at 02:30AM. Damn it. Know I'm going to get up earlier than me, man. You got me beat dude. And getting home at 02:30.
40:25Speaker 1Yeah. That's tough. Tough when throwing in, working out and spending time with my family. I feel you brother.
40:35Speaker 1NAD plus. Those are great 3, by the way, wanting to see what you think of the stack. What could I change and mainly your opinions on if I should start running SS-31with
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41:19Speaker 2Actually, there was a price that's never been asked. Well, you know, I didn't know that
41:31Speaker 1Then It makes sense. So I always try to go to things because Will is the smarter of the 2. I'm the better looking.
41:39Speaker 1That was pretty funny. I mean, the 1st part is true, but you can judge for yourselves people on the 2nd 1. We're both good. But no, anyways, but Will always comes with a more scientific
41:48Speaker 1way that I look at things is a little bit different than because I don't have his big brain, but what I do is I slow down and I think logically.
42:02Speaker 1the MOTS-1C like to answer that, it's smart. I don't run them separate. I run them at the same time because
42:08Speaker 1I just do a bunch in the morning and then like, you know, I do have them separated, but I'm not so strategic as this can be. So it's a great question because it made me think
42:19Speaker 1So if you take it in the morning, I know a lot of people that it gives energy to. Now, it does not give me energy. I don't know if my if my mitochondria is in well form and maybe that's why I don't feel it. You know, I've had conversations with some people
42:42Speaker 1going, if you take the MOTS-1s, see, it's going to rev it up in the morning. So take it in the morning for sure. Right? So the SS-thirty 1 is going to repair the mitochondria.
42:54Speaker 1So there are people that think that SS-thirty 1 helps with sleep. Again, I take it in the morning, so I don't know, but some people say that it does help with sleep. So if you look at it like that, because it's repairing the mitochondria,
43:15Speaker 1But I get where you're going. I have not heard that out there in, out on the, in the, so I thought that was a great question. You maybe think about it. I'm like, wow, that's actually an interesting question. So that's how I answered it. Now I'm interested to see your thoughts because we didn't discuss this like we normally would. So that's how I answered it, thinking through it just logically. So let's see how- would say that
43:34Speaker 2I guess here's the real answer. I would not worry about which you should take 1st because I don't think you should take 1 1st or the other 1st. I think you should take both of them same time. Okay.
43:48Speaker 2I don't know. I guess I've just heard of more people starting the MOTS-1s): Just because
43:56Speaker 2Take that and then they go, Oh, we should have heard. But there's a lot of people that get lot of questions. Have you heard that?
44:26Speaker 2All right? So now when we have a bunch of energy and all that energy is made and like if that energy is made and it's revving in here, but it is able to leak out, okay, this is what like free radicals are. And
44:39Speaker 2it's a lot of wasted energy that we have just created, but for no good. And so, hey, potentially like maybe MOTS-3s doesn't give you energy, maybe because your cell wall, maybe it is already at kind of max capacity and doing well, but also maybe your cell wall integrity is not very good and all the energy it's making is just leaking out and going away. It's
44:58Speaker 1an interesting dig into. We should dig into that 1. Absolutely. Randy, write that down because that's
45:02Speaker 2good But the SS-thirty 1 is basically, it is harnessing all of that and now it can be actually
45:08Speaker 2put through the right electrical cord and into the right place in your body so your body can actually use it all. So I would 100% use them both at the same time.
45:19Speaker 1let's look at it for a 2nd if you look at it how they work a little bit separately. You could make that play
45:24Speaker 1because Monticello in my opinion should be taking the morning because it does give a lot of people energy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people, I've had a lot of people say, man, it's almost too much. Sure. You know I mean? But what
45:56Speaker 2Dude, I don't think that matters 1 little bit. I'd take them in the morning. So would take them both in the morning and I would take them together. If you take them 1 in the morning and 1 in the night, go ahead. I don't think that there's much
46:10Speaker 1Morning. I wouldn't take him in the night. But I think, like, Will and I will both agree when I say this because I know how he thinks. I've known him a long time. We're gonna say try them both. See what you do. Like,
46:35Speaker 1Like I ate this morning, which is so rare for me. Almost felt like I was cheating on myself because I
46:43Speaker 1minimum. But anyways, but my point is I'm trying something different. Try something different. Try them both. Logically,
46:49Speaker 1it makes some sense. And lastly, I think you talked about NAD. I love it. I use it as coffee.
47:02Speaker 1I don't know why. Yeah. Really? Every time. Yeah. People go, you're so tan. No. I just took NAD.
47:06Speaker 1Interesting. Because I get flushing mostly. The things Flushed that me. Damn. I get flushed, but in It's different, bro. I always do that. I know. You love it. I love it. I just I get super flushed immediately.
47:28Speaker 2and do them for 3 months and then make a judgment. I think that's badass. It's all like,
47:34Speaker 2that's everything you really want for like mitochondrial health and internal energy. So
47:39Speaker 2run it and you be the experiment, don't adulterate that experiment, right? Don't add a bunch of other things in and now we don't really know what happened, right? So be consistent and run that stuff at good high doses. Make sure also the SS-thirty 1, I would do a very bare minimum of 5 mg a day. I know that gets expensive, but it
47:58Speaker 2is I mean, if you I've talked to lots of people like people like 5 mg is kind of lowest effective dose really.
48:04Speaker 2I know people are taking 10 mgs a day and 20 and saying, damn, that's where I really felt it.
48:11Speaker 2that gets expensive because they're usually in 30 mg, maybe even if I've seen some 50 mg bottles, but
48:37Speaker 1thinking about this and now I'm super intrigued because we want to geek out with this stuff because
48:41Speaker 1it's so like, think about it. Like, do you, if you have, if you're not feeling these things, does it mean it's a healthy mitochondria
48:49Speaker 1or does it mean like it's leaking out now? We use that for a 2nd, and I'm sorry, I'm going in left field, but I'm thinking through this,
49:03Speaker 1If we do dig into it and think that that's that if it's not repaired, if it's repaired,
49:10Speaker 2That's a cool concept. It's kind of a chicken or egg, like right, but came 1st chicken or the egg. Yeah. But it would be fun to like dig into, like, and it might kind might into pieces like that. Yeah. Let's dig into that, bro. Maybe that's Because there's 2 ways, right? Well, is it that your engine ain't working very good or you're just not able to harness that energy energy. Same thing with testosterone.
49:29Speaker 2Like, is it that your body can't make great testosterone or can't keep it as free testosterone and actually use it or like T3,
49:49Speaker 2So there's pointless to take more T4. Right. Right? Now you just need the real thing. But anyway,
50:02Speaker 2So I'm up. Guys. I love the podcast. I'm 54, highly active my entire life. I've got a lot of nagging injuries.
50:09Speaker 2Join the club here. Yeah. I'm constantly working, around and through. Probably just your average listener. Most troubling at the moment is severe tendonitis in my elbow, but the shoulders, knees, lower back, and neck are very
50:23Speaker 2I started the world reigning cycle about a week ago, laid it out to okay. Laid it out to be 1 mg BPC
50:38Speaker 2So should I increase the dose for a shorter cycle or stick with this dose for a full 8 weeks?
50:44Speaker 2option would be a moderate dose for 5 weeks and then hold on to some supply in case I need it this spring summer when my activity level increases dramatically.
50:53Speaker 2I'd love to go high dose than low dose maintenance forever, but between my limited budget and the pending legislation,
50:59Speaker 2I'm really worried this may not, may be my only shot and I don't want to mess it up. Thanks. So great question. Thought through articulate question, whoever you are, sir. That was great. What a,
51:12Speaker 1the Wolverine stacks, you know, it was a blend. So it looks, sounds like you're doing those separate.
51:23Speaker 1blend that comes in the bottle. It doesn't matter, but you're separating them, 3 which is great. So do you want me to start with It's
51:30Speaker 1a great question because it made me think, maybe think like, because I don't know, like I was thinking I'm always in a like, again, slow down, like what would I do? You know? And I'm like, okay, so I've
51:40Speaker 1had so much experience with healing injuries and I've done little bits and I've done lots of bits. So the lots of bits obviously help. So that's the thing with the obvious.
51:53Speaker 1going to answer it like, I don't think you should really do less than a MEG. If you can do a MEG for 8 weeks, I would do that. I might even double it and do it for a month because tendinitis
52:05Speaker 1is pretty easy to fix. I've had it so many times. A lot of I've fixed it with just the BPC,
52:20Speaker 1I could make a lot of different cases, but that's probably what I would do because I do have more experience
52:25Speaker 1mainly coming out of my back surgery and taking high doses of this and just seeing how freaking amazing
52:32Speaker 1high doses is, I was blown away by it. So that's probably now sitting today. If you asked me a few months ago, probably wouldn't have answered the same way, but I would probably even double that double down and just attack that sucker. I really think that it'll knock it out quick. What do you got, man? I'm into this thing. Probably different. This
52:50Speaker 2is a tough 1. I really, I am kind of conflicted because it all depends on how your progress is going. Like my guess is dude, if you do 1 mg plus 2 mg, you won't need to do it for 8 weeks. Yeah, agreed. I don't think, I bet that the tendonitis will be healed in 3
53:11Speaker 2TB, so I wouldn't do that. Tendonitis? Yeah, yeah, yes. Cause that's what is bringing the stem cells in and just like the work crew to tell it to really, really heal. BPC
53:24Speaker 2the TB-five hundred is really telling it to heal. What you want to do, the important part I guess is physically what you do. So tendonitis is just over is like chronic inflammation, your tendon,
53:46Speaker 2That's great. You're not going to inflame it, but it's not going to heal that fast. Okay? You need a little bit of blood flow in there to
54:03Speaker 2what you need to be doing is lifting lightweight and maybe going slow if you required to or whatever your job is. You want it to maybe feel this like dull
54:13Speaker 2that's good, that means blood's getting there, but no sharp zapping pain. And don't also don't just do nothing because it'll take a long time to heal. K? So
54:25Speaker 2I would say though, bro, I would honestly say I'd rather just make sure it's healed. So frankly, my answer would be a loading phase. I'd probably go 2 megs a day plus 4 megs a day,
54:57Speaker 2You talk to us, we'll be all right. We will be all right and we will be able to, you'll be able to get peptides
55:12Speaker 1Whatever you do, whatever you choose, his way, my way, your way, whatever way, let us know how it goes. Yeah, absolutely. I'm curious to
55:20Speaker 1see what you choose and how it heals. Tinnitus is fairly easy with my experience that I think that you'll be all right. You'll be able to inject really, really,
55:32Speaker 2has healed me, didn't it? But I couldn't even like dry off with a towel. I get out of the shower and just pushing against my skin with the towel just killed me both sides. Great question That was a good question. But also inject it right at the spot. Wow. Do all of the injections just right there. You basically just want to make it triangle around
55:55Speaker 1an additional BPC to help reduce inflammation in back due to bulging disc. How much or
56:27Speaker 1When that disc is bulging, it is either in my opinion, you can do like physical therapy and all that stuff. My opinion is get the surgery and get out of pain because if you have pain like me, it sucks. It controlled my life. I was still working, but as Will, man, I was not myself. I was, it sucked.
56:44Speaker 1So that's my answer. Would I run Clo an extra BPC for other injuries? Absolutely. I think BPC is freaking amazing. You you're just adding into it, know? Clo's great, you know? But yeah, you can, but for a disc brother or sister,
57:00Speaker 1unfortunately these peptides are great, but they will not heal a disc problem. That is a problem that needs to be fixed in my opinion by surgery. Yep. Yep. We've both had that. I've had a double discectomy. I've had 2 bulging discs in my
57:14Speaker 2side nerve hurt like a mother. Okay. I had to have, like, 2 epidurals put in me. Brutal. And that that didn't even do anything, and I just had to have the surgery. So everything he's it's a structural
57:24Speaker 2issue. Like Problem. The peptides aren't going to put the damn disc back. The disc needs to go back. Yeah.
57:30Speaker 2Or be cut out to that. They're really good. Those surgeries are not They are good at the surgeries. Way better. Especially, if it's just 1 and it's early,
57:38Speaker 1they can do that and you'll be like feeling good in a couple weeks. And if you were in Orange County area, I'm going to let you know my doctor that I went to for my surgery, he's freaking top notch, dude. So if you follow us on any channels, just let us know who you are. And if you're in the area or you just happen to want to come out for the surgery for him,
57:57Speaker 2let me know. We'll get you his name. Yep. Cool. Alright. Who's that? I am curious if there are any peptides that might help with vitiligo.
58:10Speaker 2it has worked and healed their vitiligo. I'm not saying it's gonna help with you, but it is what it is. So vitiligo is like this is the skin pigmentation
58:37Speaker 2I think he was like, I don't know. People say he was dying his skin white, so we don't know. He was a little peculiar. But
58:56Speaker 2although in 1, the 1 caveat to that is like, they do say with Thymosin Alpha, if you take that during an outbreak, it actually could enhance that unfortunate autoimmune disorder. Otherwise it does have a calming effect, but BPC-one
59:15Speaker 2take more collagen in, okay, absorb more collagen, convert the food that you eat into more collagen and a signaling peptide to tell that collagen where to go.
59:25Speaker 2Right? That is telling your, like, skin, which is the problem to have more collagen. It will regenerate that skin better and make it more healthy. Melanotan
59:38Speaker 2KPV is a gut and man, our gut brain access, right? And that's our gut is, if that gut is healthy, that is autoimmune calming.
1:00:35Speaker 1stupidly, have been taking it and I caught up to it as you asked your question that I should be not taking it because I do think it does that. Now, Thymosin Alpha is great. It brings down inflammation. It's good for autoimmune issues, but sometimes if you have an outbreak, as Will said, it enhances it. I'm living experience of it. I don't know for a fact, but I know, I think that's the case.
1:00:55Speaker 1But it does enhance your immunity if it needs to. If you have an overactive, it can bring it down. Like logically,
1:01:15Speaker 2you cannot go wrong. Them out, Jay. Good shot. Yeah. Good stuff for the show. Do that, attack it, attack it hard.
1:01:25Speaker 1Hi guys. I love the podcast. I'm 28, very active. Ex gymnast, now LIF run Pilates, a nurse
1:01:33Speaker 1and generally healthy, but I have old knees and shoulder injuries and flare up from time to time. I recently started the Wolverine Blend Cycle, 400 micrograms of BPC-157
1:01:50Speaker 1what the minimum effective dose is. I think that's low. How long I should run it and dosing should differ from new versus old injury. Another great question. How many consecutive days can it be taken forever?
1:02:06Speaker 1How long should breaks be and how should I manage multiple injection sites of treating severe injuries?
1:02:17Speaker 1or general recovery of well-being? And if on a budget, which 1 to 2 peptides are most worth it? Lastly,
1:02:34Speaker 1I also take the following daily and would love your opinion on whether they're worth it. If
1:02:55Speaker 1L glutamine and cranberry extract. Thanks so much. I learned a lot from the Q and A. Awesome. Let's ride. Do you want to take that? When you start it? Yeah,
1:03:02Speaker 2sure. I'll take it. So minimum effective dose of BPC and TB-five hundred. The minimum effective dose is 500 micrograms.
1:03:17Speaker 2but frankly, I mean, I guess I would prefer that you do 1000 micrograms, right? 1 mg
1:03:27Speaker 2So there's that answer. How long can you take it? Like it is not harmful for you to take it forever.
1:03:35Speaker 2would, your body does kind of get used to it and it stops being as effective. So I would maybe go in,
1:03:49Speaker 2get it to rest a week, 2 rest, 2 weeks, and then if injury isn't healed, get back after it.
1:04:01Speaker 2I do a pretty high dose Monday, Wednesday, Friday pretty damn consistently and have been going for 3 months now. Yeah. Cool. I may stop for a week and then start again. So that's not that big of a deal,
1:04:31Speaker 2mg daily. I don't know. I wouldn't go any more than that because there is such a thing with taking too much GHKCu.
1:04:37Speaker 2Too much copper in you is not a good thing. Glow, so here's here's, some math for you. If you take the Glow blend, which customarily
1:05:09Speaker 2Then you draw 10 units. Okay? That'll give you 0.5 a milligram of BPC, 0.5 mg TB-five hundred, and 2.5 mg of GHK-two.
1:05:19Speaker 2Well said, that was good. There's math for you. That's why I was good at that stuff. I guess,
1:05:31Speaker 2that's for daily long term. That's maybe what I'd max out at. If you're doing 3 days a week, you can do more GHKCU
1:05:37Speaker 2than that. Like, I wouldn't be scared to do to do in what that math I just told you to inject 20 units 3 days a week, which gives you 5 mg of GHKCU
1:05:48Speaker 2But, you know, 60 day and then take a week break and maybe kind of after a little while switch to just the Wolverine blend and then add GHKCU
1:06:02Speaker 2oh, I don't really wanna hit on all of those. L glutamine is awesome. Right? I would switch to HCL creatine for sure. We've talked about that. Right? Just kind of bypasses your liver. You don't get as much water retention. You take,
1:06:20Speaker 11 other question, go ahead. That's great. I think that you kind of nailed it. I'd kind of like answer my question. So you did great. Way that you that's why Will knows, he knows this guy, man knows his dosages, that's for sure.
1:06:31Speaker 1Yeah, I like to keep the JHKC separate. I mean, even though I take so much of the BPC and the TB, I do them in my shoulder, shoulder and my back pretty much every day because
1:06:41Speaker 1I have really got shoulders Again, I lift weights every day, 6 days a week minimum. And I have had back surgery, so I'm just trying to stay ahead of the curve. Like Will said, I used to get tendonitis all the time and I haven't got it for a long time. I'm assuming it's because I take these.
1:07:07Speaker 1amazing. So you would love it. I keep them separate personally. So yeah, so I think you answered and then like I'm a carnivore,
1:07:15Speaker 1know, I don't take any of that other stuff. I think I get it all from the meat through my readings and my understanding of that. So I don't take any of that stuff
1:07:24Speaker 1except for the HCL creatine. And I think everybody should take that. I even have my wife on it. So monohydrate
1:07:30Speaker 1bloats you. It's funny. Well, we'll end on this because I know we're going long. Social
1:07:34Speaker 1media is funny. I even put out a post on monohydrate and HCL and how monohydrate bloats me and I got attacked for that. No, it doesn't. Geez, bro, like, can you not scroll past the freaking post, man, without yelling at me? It's just my opinion. Especially if say monohydrate then
1:07:49Speaker 2go ahead. I don't care. Especially if you say monohydrate bloats me. They say, no, no, no, it does. I'm like, you mean just said me. Yeah.
1:07:56Speaker 1But that's what's funny about this. Yeah. That was great, man. I think I like it better like that. I think that was Will's call to do it that way. I think it's more organic. We don't, I think when we talk through it 1st, we
1:08:08Speaker 1do kind of piggyback on like, because we love talking about that stuff. That was fun. I enjoyed it. Think. Great questions. Those
1:08:23Speaker 1He comes to record. We usually record for the Peptide of the Week on Friday, but we're going do it because he's off work on Thursday and he will be our 1st in house guest live. We're excited. We got to see how we're going to set it up, but, he is a good friend of ours. Good friend of the show, good friend of us, in general. And he knows a lot, probably 1 of the smartest guys I've known and known most of my life. So we are going to talk about testosterone replacement. We're going to be talking about
1:08:49Speaker 1testosterone and different esters. I know this dude right here knows his esters really well. So we're going to dig into some of that. And Scott, Doctor. Scott is amazing with blood work. So I do want to touch a little bit on blood work because he's the only man that I trust with my blood work instead of a typical, MD. So that's come in, it'll drop on Monday. Anything else? Take us out. No, dude. Awesome questions.
1:09:12Speaker 1We enjoyed that guys. That was great. We appreciate everybody who watches and I hope you, hope we do a good job. Yeah. Show's growing, so we appreciate it. We appreciate the support. We love you guys. We are out of here. Yep. Thank you to everybody who made it possible.