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0:39Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham across the way. I'm a good buddy, my friend and co host Worcester William T. Hoss.
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1:40Speaker 1are going to the Super Bowl. I know, dude. Everybody keeps asking me as well going to the Super Bowl. I'm like, I don't know. Ask him. I don't care enough to spend $20.
1:48Speaker 0Is that what they are? Yeah. Well, so like, right now Up in the nosebleeds are $20. No. Right now, the tickets are $7.
1:55Speaker 0Okay. K? But it would be I would take me me and my girl. Okay. So 3. That's it. Yeah. So 2 of them, just us 2. K. But I wouldn't want to buy that those tickets. I would want to buy them some They
2:14Speaker 0where's that? Stay there? It's in San Francisco. Okay. It's not too bad. San Francisco. No.
2:22Speaker 1in San Jose. It's the funniest thing. My wife is going to laugh because I know she listens to the podcast, especially this 1. She loves this podcast in particular, but when
2:31Speaker 1she married me, you know, I play football, I love football, I hate watching football. I know. And here's my thing. And like a lot of people aren't going to agree with this, but I don't know anybody on the team,
2:41Speaker 1so I don't care who wins. So it's just, that might be silly to people. I don't have a team.
2:46Speaker 1I would rather either play football because I loved it. You know, I was pretty good at it, but
2:51Speaker 0I just don't watch it. No, I understand that. Like my girl's a better, more bigger fan than I. Oh really? She's like, woah, money at football. Which you too, played. Who? Right. I think- In college like me. Yeah.
3:04Speaker 0I'd like people who have played fantasy football. I don't I have no interest in doing that. Yeah. Like, I don't really want and I'm more just I enjoy watch. I'm less of a like, I'm not my heart is not gonna be broken. I will they will put me in no good mood if we win or lose. It's just cool. Like my mom's all excited.
3:25Speaker 0you're Seahawk fan, you're living there. Like everybody, you know, just the atmosphere, everybody kind of gets you, like, gets you more pumped up. You just kind of,
3:42Speaker 0is when you go into a football game, it's a powerful experience, Especially, like, the Rams Stadium. Like, what? Yeah. Yeah. And I'll argue the Seattle Stadium is a lot better than the Rams Stadium. Oh, is it right? Yeah. I mean, the Rams Stadium's newer, but my idea of experience is so much better than the Seattle Stadium. I've been to both lots of times. Oh, really? Oh, wow. Yeah. But
4:00Speaker 0it's just like, Thresh Stadium Zone was too too damn comfortable, and you're watching that they have this giant TV. You're basically like
4:06Speaker 0Huge. Oh, I'm watching the TV again. I shouldn't be watching the game in the real life. What am I doing? Why am I even here? Right? But the Seattle, it feels like you're actually
4:18Speaker 0You know, literally fans are a lot better in Seattle. Are they? Sorry, LA people. Yeah. Touche. I mean, they are. Because it's a small city. How did he get stabbed? I don't know. Yeah. It's a small city. They just,
4:29Speaker 0right? They don't have that much more LA people. They have so much to worry about and think about. So many damn teams. Right? There's very there's a lot less loyalty.
4:38Speaker 0Like, in the Ram Stadium, whole time, that jumbotron is trying to tell you, get scream louder. Get pumped up. Drew for a team. Right? Does it say that literally? All yeah. Oh my god. The whole time. It's actually really annoying. Seattle, they don't ever even say that, and your ears are ringing,
4:54Speaker 0and people did not sit down the entire game. Now it was a playoff game, so that makes a bit of difference. But
5:03Speaker 0football in general. Just because of watching. Not so much. Like I enjoy that. People take it very extreme. People take it really seriously. Not saying the name is Brett. Know For sure if you're listening. Yeah. Know nobody in there. Those guys don't care about me. So I'm not going to have my
5:17Speaker 1day ruined. Yeah. Do you have a team? No. I don't know anybody on the team. So why would I have a team?
5:22Speaker 1Anyway, eats his own, like I know a lot of people love it. My wife see how we think, you know, so when I started dating her, she's like, Oh my God, I love that you don't watch football. And so it was a win win for her. So How about video games? No. I don't play video games. I know. Yeah. No, absolutely not. So no, I got a lot of
5:38Speaker 1logistics, man. I'm not going to sit home and play video games. I'm gonna get some fuck, some work done. Yes. I don't see how people do that. Like, do something productive, dude. Yes. I mean, no offense, bro. Like, right. I would feel, mean, I just feel guilty watching TV. Right. That I shouldn't I have do not watched TV since my sons were born. Like you get kids, man, and like they just, they just, you just, I don't know. If I'm doing
6:05Speaker 0you know, I'm always listening to peptide stuff. I'm always listening to carnivore stuff and just trying to get better at my crafts, so to speak. You know what I mean? And I frankly nowadays I'd rather read than watch TV. I think that that is legitimately more entertaining to me. Yeah. You've always been like that. Yeah. But not as a kid, like not as I was, I mean,
6:25Speaker 0I've always hated, I hated reading. My parents, when I was little, when I was young and like kind of junior high, took me into Sylvan Learning Centers,
6:32Speaker 0which is like, they thought I had like a learning disability. They said this kid just like hates doing homework. Right? So I did all the tests and I tested out like the 97th percentile and they're like, your kid's just lazy or he just hates reading. Actually, this is what they said. So my mother's college English. No. Actually, my mother's a college English teacher,
6:50Speaker 0and she would so when your parents would read you books and your little kid and parents would read you the Clifford, the big red dog, my mom read me the entire Iliad and the Odyssey,
6:58Speaker 0which is a badass book for a young boy. Right? There's you're you're killing everybody with spears and there's monsters and mythical stories, but she would read it to me. And basically they said, look, dude, you're such a good reader and he's used to listening to you read. When he reads, it doesn't sound like you. So he doesn't want to do it, but he's still good at it in his own terms. They had me read and doing reading comprehension,
7:33Speaker 0mom did. My mom is just like, I just don't understand how you don't love doing homework. Like
7:38Speaker 1you're what really? Kidding me. Me. Then you become punk rocker like me and like punk rockers, it's kind of just a rebellious. I came out of the womb with a Mohawk dude. Like, so got to be old enough. I was good at sports, so that kind of kept me in line, but I was just like, yeah, I don't like homework, I'm just not going to do it. So that was a problem with my parents. But when you have a kid that just
7:56Speaker 1doesn't really care that much, how do you get to make it? I was a rough kid. Tough. I was a rough kid. Yeah. That's why I'm attracted to the punk rock scene. But
8:10Speaker 1Now we did, if you'll watch my stories, it all dropped it to let you guys know that we are doing it a little bit differently. How we generally have been doing it is
8:18Speaker 1we sit down right before the podcast we record, we run through them really quickly and we kind of just talk through them. That's kind of what we have been doing today. We did it a little bit differently. We read through them ourselves
8:33Speaker 1organically will, because we don't always agree. We often agree because we talk about this stuff often, but today might be a little bit of a different flare. So let's dive in. Okay. Do the honor. Number 1. Hi Warriors, Charlie from Sydney, Australia.
8:56Speaker 1You want me to run it? Go ahead. Top 5 peptides. Okay, so curveball, I would imagine you're all going to think I'm going say Retta, but I'm not. It's on my top. I'm going to say that Wolverine is definitely my top. If I could only choose 1, it would be the Wolverine because I will lift weights to the day that I die.
9:13Speaker 1if you do that, you are in pain a lot. I have shoulder injuries. I don't get tendinitis as much, knock on wood, but I used to get it a lot. I have back problems.
9:23Speaker 1So anyways, I'm going to take the Wolverine stack, which is for people that don't know, it is TB-five
9:43Speaker 1done that numerous times. So any of that will be my number 1. Now, number 2 will be, it's
9:54Speaker 1is the best pound for pound pep tied on the planet. I don't know if anything's going to ever come close to it, what it does. It is almost for everybody on the planet, except if you're already too skinny. If you're a skinny, dinky little gal like my wife, no way is she taking it? She would wither away. But for gym rats, for if you need to lose weight,
10:14Speaker 1if you, you know what I mean? It's for everybody. So I use it just to give me that little edge to stay leaner.
10:26Speaker 1will be, I am a cutter guy. I like to say super lean. I'm going to throw in my AOD-nine
10:34Speaker 1Well, I just did a podcast on it last week. It dropped on Monday. Hopefully you saw it. If you didn't check it out because it's great. So AOD
10:42Speaker 1is the last piece of the HGH chain and all it does is burn fat and you can take pretty high doses of it because it doesn't increase your IGF-one.
10:51Speaker 1It doesn't have any negative effects of the growth hormone that some people worry about. So that will be my number 3.
10:59Speaker 1gosh, this is actually thrown HGH, which actually probably might be my number 2, but anyways, HGH somatropin
11:21Speaker 0And I could keep going, but there you And they're just freaking amazing. Yeah. I mean, they're just freaking amazing. So Alright. Have a similar 1. So I
11:28Speaker 0won't re explain your explanations. Alright? Retta also. Yeah, dude. I just hit his has to be. Like, I don't I don't take it a whole bunch times. Oh.
11:42Speaker 1in general. Not not in order and not So let's put them in order. Let's say we'll do that. If you had to choose 1 BPC-CTV.
11:48Speaker 0Okay. Because also, yes, I will lift weights till the day I die. And anybody who knows, right, we may look good, but like you don't really feel feel like that sometimes. Everything
11:58Speaker 0is hurting and that- But we still go. Man, it makes a huge difference. And no doubt, like you're like, hey, I haven't had tendonitis in a while. Probably because you're taking BPC-400s
12:14Speaker 0You said those 3 names and people might get confused thinking it was 3 things. But anyway I was trying to I was tapping into my William T. Hoss. Good for you, bro.
12:31Speaker 0Oh. Why? Oh, that surprises me. It's it's like it's tough for men. It's tough for men out there with peptides
12:42Speaker 0that's 1 of your strongest muscle builders. So that thing's awesome. You can't run a very long 4 to 6 weeks or so, but
12:49Speaker 0yes, effective. Then I'll do another blend. Maybe that's cheating, right, because we're saying 2 at a time, but Tesamorelin,
13:05Speaker 0put together. You should always take both. Well, I think you should always take both. One's going tell your body make more natural growth hormone. The other 1 is just going to kind of amplify those growth hormone pulses, the Ipamorelin is. But Tesamorelin is like clinically proven to burn stubborn belly fat. I say stubborn belly fat, but it was actually developed by
13:23Speaker 0AIDS patients, for AIDS patients who had this like fat freezing, which was in their stomach. Their abdominal like fat would freeze and that was
13:33Speaker 0basically was lethal to them. So they developed Tesamorelin to just literally target- Burn that stomach. Stomach fat. So amazing and everybody will
13:57Speaker 0I like that stuff, dude. I really, really like it. It's a it's a new topic. It gives like energy, it gives physical energy.
14:11Speaker 0newer, tighter, etcetera. So long term use, hell, that stuff's awesome. And then Retta. Yeah, I don't use it that much, but I mean, it just is
14:24Speaker 0like safe. Like this shit's good for you. It is good for you if you don't abuse it. You know, like straight up, none of these, I mean, all these actually are, none of these are bad for you. IGF-one can be bad for you. You take it too long, if you take it wrong, take too much,
14:42Speaker 1Good. So yeah. I think that was a great question. I think a better question would have been what's your top 10?
14:53Speaker 1turn. Great question. Whoever asked that. So I'm running Tesa Ipamorelin, but want to switch back to CJC Ipamorelin and
15:16Speaker 1if that's okay. If that's okay. Thank you guys for everything. I love the brand and podcast.
15:33Speaker 0Alright, so yeah, I'll give you the doses. So 1st of all, yeah, cool. That's okay. Well, it's okay to run it's okay, 1st of all, to switch from Tesa Ipah to CJC
15:42Speaker 0Ipah. Awesome. You should after you run, you know, I don't know, 16 weeks of Tesa Ipah. Great. Switch to the other 1.
16:10Speaker 0I would do I don't know if you're a man or a woman. I probably would give a woman a little bit less of a dose, but I personally take like 1000.
16:31Speaker 0of each, right? Tesla and Ipah or CJC and Ipah, and you slowly titrate up. Okay. Again, if you start too high and you get water retention, well, that's why. Then you need to drop her down and then slowly titrate up. So might as well just start correctly, let your body get used to it, and that's why it didn't titrate up. So
17:14Speaker 0But your body will build a tolerance, go 4 to 6 weeks ending at, I don't know, probably I would try not to get up to 80, but I would try to end it like 60, maybe 70 micrograms. But that's a slow even
17:35Speaker 1Are you done? Yeah. Was it? All right. So I think the stack is great. I think it's very thought through. I mean, you pretty much cover everything and you're
17:43Speaker 1adding in the Tesa Ipamorelin. Are you going back to the CJC? I'm assuming you're a man. Didn't say,
17:49Speaker 1I think the Tesla HIPAA is better. I would stick with the Tesla HIPAA, but who am I? I don't know, just an opinion.
17:54Speaker 1I will and I are going to do a cast on the CJC soon because we haven't really dug into that deeply. I recently used it for the 1st time and I didn't have the best experience with it. We've talked about that. So we're going to dig in that a little bit better. I'm just not a fan of CJC, but a lot of people are so each his own.
18:17Speaker 1It's really good for the gut health. So I think you got that covered. You got your secretagogue where it's going to increase growth hormone. You got your MOTS-thirty
18:28Speaker 1energy. Cmax, I'm assuming you want to kind of calm down a little bit if you're anxious. I think that you got it covered. Thought through. I think you got it covered, man. I think whoever that you are, man or woman, that's a great sack
18:49Speaker 0was reading on Reddit that it's hard to know where to buy peptides from because many places
18:59Speaker 0but don't have endotoxin testing. This terrifies me. I had no idea the testing being done wasn't
19:09Speaker 0when vetting a peptide vendor? I've gotten Tirzepatide from a compounding pharmacy a few months ago that I swear was just backwater.
19:18Speaker 0I accidentally took double my dose and felt nothing. No nausea, nothing. I recently stumbled upon 1 that sells the peptides reconstituted,
19:28Speaker 0or testing in their site. I wanted to be careful. I'd love all the tips you have. Thanks for everything you put
19:48Speaker 0gimmick to make it easier on you. Like, look, it's easier on you. But dude, these things, as soon as you add water, as soon as you reconstitute that thing, clock starts ticking in on its effectiveness.
20:07Speaker 0most of these things, when they warm up to room temp, they start degrading really fast. So chances are, I mean, they're just doing that- Keep that cold air shift. It like- Rough. Yeah. Don't do that. Don't don't get there's There's no point to it. All you gotta do is add water, dude. Like Yeah. Really. It's it's easy to add to add for that. I I would not use a company like that. We can help you,
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21:12Speaker 0Most and the COAs should have a little code that you can verify those tests, right? You can go back to that independent lab
21:19Speaker 0and enter that code in and then the lab will it'll bring up that test. Okay. Oftentimes on these sites, they'll use the codes at the bottom, especially in Janoship tests.
21:29Speaker 0These sites will cut off the code. So no person doesn't know. They look at the test great. That looks good, but
21:34Speaker 0they cut off the code for a reason because they doctored the tests or whatever. Right? So make sure that you can verify
21:41Speaker 0the COAs. Now most of them do not have endotoxin testing. I would also be very wary of
21:46Speaker 0any place that does in house testing. Right? It's like they produce the best The taste is good. And then they show you the report of them testing it
22:07Speaker 0toxins and things that I put that like harmful things that I've put in my body because I put some really harmful things in my body and I've still lived through it.
22:49Speaker 0I didn't notice a damn difference at all. So I guess that's what I'm saying. Now nobody
22:54Speaker 0I don't know. Who's to say? Maybe you just keep doing that and it becomes really bad. So I don't know
23:09Speaker 0take peptides and nobody's ever told me anything about their, any like negative symptoms about
23:33Speaker 0But I would look at COAs. I don't know. I just like, here's the deal. I don't wanna dissuade you from that, but I'm not that worried. Now I would rather use something to test out at the end of test test at 1 than 40, for sure. I'd be very wary. I wouldn't if I had, if I had knew that, known that in advance, I wouldn't have done
23:56Speaker 0so, yeah, I don't know. What are the questions? Go ahead and answer some other questions.
23:59Speaker 1I mean, so here's the thing. Don't say the dosage of your tirzepatide and you have to understand that everybody's very different. I mean, I am somebody that doesn't get nauseous. So, I mean, I don't really run tirzepatide, but I've
24:15Speaker 1I don't get nauseous, you know, and I did the same doses as the Retta, and I didn't feel anything like that. And I know that the Tirzepatide that I took was good.
24:24Speaker 1So I'm not saying you're wrong or you're right. I'm just saying you might be different. You could be taking like 0.5 of a mg and then you doubled it and that's a full meg and that would be a low dose. So
24:33Speaker 1that could be the case. Again, I'm not questioning you. I'm just saying, what, how much are taking?
24:46Speaker 1I am not a big fan of like pharmaceutical companies. If you've watched any of my channels, I'm pretty open about that.
25:00Speaker 1yeah, it's a catch-twenty 2 to the degree where we all have the access to get things for cheaper
25:05Speaker 1without going through pharmaceutical companies because they will take a monopoly and they'll charge us that they control the supply and demand aspect
25:18Speaker 1you have to kind of do the research on the company. There are great companies. There are great companies that have true COAs and they're not hard to find if they're legit or not
25:31Speaker 1get the real ones, they spend a lot of money on them. I speak with Experian, so you know, like too much money, but like it's worth it to them so that their products are legit.
25:54Speaker 1buy cheap peptides. Like if it's too cheap, that's they're cheap for a reason. You get what you, you get what you buy. So if it's me, I'm not going to buy the cheapest on the corner. Know, like the ones that are more expensive aren't necessarily expensive because they're trying to be expensive. That means they test their products and they have to pay for the test of the products and those testing
26:17Speaker 1can help you kind of decipher that. So I hope that helps. I think we both answered that. So I hope that helps. On the Tirzepatide, like it sounds like you were a consistent user of Tirzepatide
26:33Speaker 0it did nothing. So I don't know. Do, you know, we do build a tolerance. It sounds like you kind of knew what maybe you were talking about,
26:45Speaker 0but hell they sure could have. It also sounds like they gave it to you. It was all backwater, right? They gave it to you reconstituted.
26:53Speaker 0If that's the case, don't do that. That's probably why, because they gave it, they may have reconstituted it. I don't know who knows how long before they actually gave it to you. They didn't keep it refrigerated. They let light get them in. They didn't put, I don't know, the backwater wasn't actually backwater. It was just sterile water, right? The whole point of backwater, the bacteria static water is to keep bacteria out of the peptide so it doesn't degrade.
27:19Speaker 0There could be a lot of reasons, man. Don't know. I have heard that a lot. I've heard that from, from,
27:24Speaker 1I've heard that quite a few times. I think it's simple. Don't use a company that reconstitute their water for you. Just don't. Get the water. It takes so easy. Hey, talk to the company, email, email, email in the company you're writing for. A lot of these places are just,
27:37Speaker 0yeah, don't have a real mean, if they're a bigger, bigger outfit, right, and there's a
27:44Speaker 0you know, right, that makes the product, there's a lab, right, that is the lab and then you have a company that sells those peptides.
28:02Speaker 0There's somewhat of a, somewhat a red flag, but talk to them, see if they actually have any infrastructure of like customer service, right? That'll tell you a lot. And if they actually want to answer your questions or they just want to duck and dive and just take your money,
28:21Speaker 1for me as I discovered your podcast and I've started my fitness journey. Have nothing good,
28:27Speaker 1but good has come out of my journey. Well, maybe some back knee, but I have that under control.
28:39Speaker 1elevated in the past couple of months, but my ultrasound came back normal. The PCP believes
28:47Speaker 1from GLP-two GLP-three might have produced lots of fatty acids in the liver and some now have fatty liver.
29:04Speaker 1I believe that will help combat my fatty liver. Let me know your thoughts. PS I did do a cycle of ANNOVAR,
29:23Speaker 1So just a simple answer to keep it very simple. That's probably what happened. I personally wouldn't be worried 1 bit. You would recover. You've probably already recovered
29:32Speaker 1because that's common. If you gain weight too fast, it's a problem. If you lose weight too fast, it's a problem. There's a problem as if anything's done too fast, like go slow and
29:43Speaker 1can't work that fast because it's not used to it. So easy fix. It'll iron out. In my opinion,
29:49Speaker 1we might have a different opinion on that 1. And in regards to the ANNOVAR, let's talk about it real quick. I personally don't think the Anabar from June or July is going to be a problem. I think if you had said you just took it, it could be a problem, but I don't think, I think 6,
30:08Speaker 1even though it's an oral, it's of those leaner oils. Cleaner oil oral. So I I I get where you're going with that, but I personally don't think that has anything to do 6, 7 months back. So that's my It may it may have. Possible. It may have. Absolutely. I think it's a GLP-1. I don't know, I think that, I think you had,
30:33Speaker 0what's going on with your doctor and your liver. Then you said you were going go get this test and then tell us how it went. We said, Hey, tell us how it went. So I'm like, cool. This
30:46Speaker 0good. I'm glad the doctor isn't worried. Here's 1, you should try fasting. Like this is why. So people
30:53Speaker 0who are overeating and eating, you know, 6 meals a day, bodybuilders eating, like we only have body or livers can only it's our filter, right? It can only just process that much food constantly coming in, right? Like it's not good for your it's not great for your liver. This is what is a good solution is fasting.
31:13Speaker 0like your liver gets to a break. And what does it do in the absence of having to overwork? It starts flushing, cleaning yourself out. This is why when people go fast, they
31:24Speaker 0start just shedding tons of water, right? You start doing some big intermittent fasting
31:29Speaker 0and after a couple of days, like, dude, I've lost like 10 pounds of just water weight. You look way leaner because the liver is finally working
31:44Speaker 0But I do think that, you know, our liver is a resilient thing. It is 1 of the most important organs in our entire body. So you don't want to be bad to it, but it also, since it's so effing important, it better be resilient. Do that. And so it probably will bounce back as long as you're good to it.
31:59Speaker 0The trick is to just not continually be rough on your liver. So thank you for the results. I'm glad that you're gonna be doing fine and, I would do that. Yeah, continue with the RET at like low dose and it actually will help.
32:15Speaker 0I do think that will really help, the Tesa. Yeah. This is good. Alright. For sure. Good job. Was that for you? So, yeah. Hi. Thanks for all you guys do. Love your content. I'm a 33 year old female, 5 4, and about 15% body fat.
32:31Speaker 0I want to lose some stubborn fat in my glutes. Why? And tricep area. Started low dose Reta about a month ago, 500 micrograms
32:40Speaker 02 times a week. Also started to glow about a month ago in SS-thirty 1 last week for some mitochondrial health. Do you recommend anything else right now, or should I wait till this cycle ends? Haven't really lost any weight on Reta so far and feel hungry and thirsty on the day I inject.
32:59Speaker 0until the next injection. Good. Should I up my dose at all, on that? Thanks again so much. Anything else you guys think to add in this current cycle or include in my next cycle is appreciated.
33:30Speaker 015, 15, 20. Like, I'm trying to picture that out. Basically, you'll stop having your period,
33:48Speaker 0is equal to about 8% on the man. Okay. Okay. But lean, but women are supposed to have more fat. It is what it is anyway.
33:56Speaker 0So, but whatever. Okay. Forget that. Maybe whatever you happen to be you and you want what you want. That's fine.
34:08Speaker 0is lower than the lowest starting dose. Starting with 2.5 mg, right? And so you're doing 1 mg.
34:16Speaker 0You will notice right absolutely like day you inject, it really kind of does kick in like a day or 2 after. That's what people really notice. So you're, you are feeling it, which no doubt because you're pretty small,
34:30Speaker 0but you could bump up if you wanted to and it will help. I would add in what you are taking now is not anything else for fat burning help.
34:43Speaker 0SS-thirty 1, mitochondrial, and Glow, okay, which is all just, which is all healing BPC,
35:07Speaker 0You know, the L Carnitine isn't bad. So that's all I got for you. That was great. I thought it was awesome you stole my answer.
35:14Speaker 1You thief. Thief, my bad. No, it's good. I think that he nailed it. I mean, like I said, I, my little bride is tiny. You know, she's asked a couple times, Should I take Greta? I said, Absolutely not. Not a chance in hell, babe. She's tiny. She's tiny. I remember her with her away. I like, clenbuterol years ago. She's like, I want some. Yeah. Know. I'm like, you're tiny, baby. You don't get any. I mean, I've said this countless times, but I mean, a little bit goes a long way for you gals, man. It just does, especially if you're tiny. So you don't do need to do a lot of anything. You don't, you're going to like shine on anything. So I would probably drop the Retta, even though we love Retta, but like I said, I wouldn't even give it to my bud. I would say AOD
35:50Speaker 1and Tesa. Like those 2, I gave it to my wife and she was leaning. She got freaking chiseled, man. She got chiseled.
35:57Speaker 1Like right now she's tiny. I'm telling her to plump up a little bit. I'm a baby need eat more. You know, I love her tiny, but like a little bit of chunk on her or a little bit of more weight on her. Anyways,
36:06Speaker 1each his own, but that's what we'll, we'll nailed it. You can, I would drop the Reta? I don't just don't think, I don't think you need it with your size. I think you can get there with other peptides that
36:27Speaker 1Mean, shoot, dude, I would love to know what your diet is too. You don't talk about that, but that would- But it's gotta be pretty good to be at, so at like at 120 pounds- Plus they maybe need to eat more. Maybe that, like a lot of women have that they don't,
36:38Speaker 1that doesn't register for women because we've trained a lot of women. I know we both agree with that because women,
36:44Speaker 1that food thing for men, they get that for women. They just have a hard time thinking that sometimes more food actually does you better. My wife has that problem. Like, baby, eat more. You will look able to just a higher amount. So
37:05Speaker 0to the amount of calories we take in. All right. Why? Because when it was wintertime and food was scarce
37:15Speaker 0squirrel a day, if our metabolism stayed high like it did in the summertime, we would burn all of our tissue off and
37:29Speaker 0All right? Then a lot of people, I mean, this is what we call a crash diet, right? You eat lots of calories, now we got this gap. So now I lose weight, but metabolism catches up after 2 weeks or so. Nobody can sustain a crash diet and metabolism's on the floor. You start eating again and all the weight comes Yeah, for sure.
37:46Speaker 0That's basically probably the most typical. Yeah, absolutely. But also muscle. So people lose weight, they end up losing, you know, if they're losing a lot of weight, you end up losing decent amount of muscle. Again, our basal metabolic rate is tied to our lean muscle. So you lose, the more muscle you lose,
38:08Speaker 0and low, think of it as slow and fat, or I mean, don't think of it as slow and fast. Think of it as high and low. It's a number.
38:21Speaker 0and add muscle, and then we will see that fat come off even faster and easier. And that testimony won't help with
38:40Speaker 1Hey guys, absolutely loving the podcast. Thank you. Great info coming out from it. Looking forward to the new year with special guests as well. And, you know what I want to tell you real quick for me to pause, we're going to have Doctor. Scott coming on next
38:58Speaker 1We're going to talk about blood work. We're going to talk about some cool stuff. So I meant to say that in the beginning. So Doctor. Scott's coming on for, in 2 days, he'll be here live. It'll be cool. So the majority of the talk is about running SS-31B
39:21Speaker 1Yes. That's what I would always think. Sorry. Yeah. You're good. Well, just wanted to get your thoughts on that. What's beneficial
39:29Speaker 1compared to separately? I'm 39 year old male resistance trained, 35 year old male. Cool to get to know resistance training 3 to 3 times per week with heavy weight, average 8,000
39:48Speaker 180 grams or less per day. I also take Retta 2 megs, Friday, Sunday, and Tuesday. Now, did you read that as 6 makes or 2 makes total? That was the listing. So,
40:12Speaker 1I'm to get 7 hours of sleep every night, but I work 4AM to 01:30 with an hour commute each way, which adds up to waking up at 02:30AM.
40:22Speaker 1Damn it. Know I'm going to get up earlier than me. Man, you got me beat, dude. And getting home at 02:30.
40:31Speaker 1Yeah. That's tough. Tough when throwing in, working out and spending time with my family. I feel you brother.
40:41Speaker 1NAD plus, those are great 3, by the way, wanting to see what you think of the stack. What could I change and mainly your opinions on if I should start running SS-31with
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41:41Speaker 1It makes sense. I always try to go to things because Will is the smarter of the 2, I'm the better looking.
41:48Speaker 1That was pretty funny. I mean, the 1st part is true, but you can judge for yourselves people on the 2nd We get both good. But no, anyways, but Will always comes with a more scientific
41:58Speaker 1The way that I look at things is a little bit different than because I don't have his big brain, but what I do is I slow down and I think logically.
42:06Speaker 1That's what I do because, you know, I don't, I am not as smart as you. It's the truth. So like what I do is like, so
42:13Speaker 1like to answer that, it's smart. I don't run them separate. I run them at the same time because I just do a bunch in the morning and then like, you know, I do have them separated, but I'm not so strategic as this can be. So it's a great question because it made me think MOTS-3s
42:29Speaker 1So if you take it in the morning, I know a lot of people that it gives energy to. Now, it does not give me energy. I don't know if my, if my mitochondria is in well form and maybe that's why I don't feel it. You know, I've had conversations with some people
42:51Speaker 1going, if you take the MOTS-seed, it's going to rev it up in the morning. So take it in the morning for sure. Right? So the SS-thirty 1 is going to repair the mitochondria.
43:04Speaker 1So there are people that think that SS-thirty 1 helps with sleep. Again, I take it in the morning, so I don't know, but some people say that it does help with sleep.
43:24Speaker 1But I get where you're going. I have not heard that out there in, out on the, in the, I thought that was a great question. Maybe think about it. I'm like, wow, that's actually an interesting question. So that's how I answered it. Now I'm interested to see your thoughts because we didn't discuss this like we normally would. So that's how I answered it, thinking through it just logically. So let's see how- would say that,
43:44Speaker 0I guess here's the, here's the real answer. I would not worry about which you should take 1st because I don't think you should take 1 1st or the other 1st. I think you should take both of them same time. Start
43:58Speaker 0I don't know. I guess I've, I just heard of more people starting the MOTS-1s): Just because
44:06Speaker 0Absolutely take that and then they, oh, I should have heard, but there's a lot of people that get a lot of money. Have you heard that?
44:35Speaker 0All right? So now when we have a bunch of energy and all that energy is made and like if that energy is made and it's revving in here, but it is able to leak out, okay, this is what like free radicals are. And
44:48Speaker 0it's a lot of wasted energy that we have just created, but for no good. And so, hey, potentially like maybe MOTS-3D doesn't give you energy, maybe because your cell wall, maybe it is already at kind of max capacity and doing well, but also maybe your cell wall integrity is not very good and all the energy it's making is just leaking out and going away. It's
45:07Speaker 0an interesting dig into. We should dig into that 1. Absolutely. Randy, write that down because that's a good But the SS-thirty 1 is basically, it is harnessing all of that and now it can be actually,
45:18Speaker 0you know, put through the right electrical cord and into the right place in your body so your body can actually use it all. So I would 100%
45:28Speaker 1let's like look at it for a 2nd if you look at it how they work a little bit separately. Yeah. You could make that play.
45:34Speaker 1Because Monticello in my opinion should be taking the morning because it does give a lot of people energy. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people, I've had a lot of people say, man, it's almost too much. Sure. But
46:10Speaker 0would take them both in the morning and I would take them together. If you take them 1 in the morning and 1 in night, go ahead. I don't think that there's much
46:19Speaker 1I wouldn't wouldn't take it at night. But I think like Will and I will both agree when I say this because I know how he thinks. I've known him a long time. We're gonna say try them both. See what you do. Like, we try all kinds of different things. You know, like I'm trying some different stuff with my diet.
46:34Speaker 1I'm on a carnivore diet and do a lot of fasting, but I'm changing up some fasting because I'm trying to bulk more for me, which on fasting is harder.
46:45Speaker 1I ate this morning, which is so rare for me. I almost felt like I was cheating on myself because I don't
46:53Speaker 1minimum. But anyways, but my point is I'm trying something different. Try something different. Try them both. Logically,
46:59Speaker 1it makes some sense. And lastly, I think you talked about NAD. I love it. I use it as coffee.
47:12Speaker 1I don't know why. Yeah. Every time. Yeah, People go, you're so tan. No. I just took NAD.
47:16Speaker 0Interesting. Because I get flushing mostly. Like, the things that flush me damn. I get flushed, but NAD- It's different, bro. I'm just doing that. I know. You love it. I love it. I just I get super flushed immediately. Yeah. Crazy. As far as that stack goes though, the SS-31Mozzi,
47:48Speaker 0run it and you be the experiment, don't adulterate that experiment, right? Don't add a bunch of other things in and now we don't really know what happened. Right? Now you know something. Be consistent and run that stuff at good high doses. Make sure also the SS-thirty 1, I would do a very bare minimum of 5 mgs a day. Yeah. I know that gets expensive, but
48:07Speaker 0it is mean, if you I've talked to lots of people like people like 5 mgs is kind of the lowest effective dose really.
48:14Speaker 0I know people are taking 10 mgs a day and 20 and saying, damn, that's where I really felt it. That's
48:21Speaker 0gets expensive because they're usually in 30 mg, maybe even if I've seen some 50 mg bottles, but
48:46Speaker 1thinking about this and now I'm super intrigued because we want to geek out of this stuff because
48:51Speaker 1it's so like, think about it. Like, do you, if you have, if you're not feeling these things,
48:58Speaker 1or does it mean like it's leaking out now? We use that for a 2nd, I'm sorry, I'm going in left field, but I'm thinking through this,
49:12Speaker 1If we do dig into it and think that that's that if it's not repaired, if it's repaired, if it needs to be repaired 1st,
49:20Speaker 0That's a cool- It's kind of a chicken or egg, like right, what came 1st, chicken or the egg? But it would be fun to dig into, like- It'd be interesting to research.
49:29Speaker 0Let's dig into that bro. Maybe because- Because there's 2 ways, right? Well, is it that your engine ain't working very good or you're just not able to harness that energy energy. Same thing with testosterone. Like, is it that your body can't make great testosterone or can't keep it as free testosterone and actually use it or like T3,
50:15Speaker 0highly active my entire life. I've got a lot of nagging injuries. Join the club, dude. Yeah.
50:20Speaker 0I'm constantly working, around and through. Probably just your average listener. Most troubling at the moment is severe tendonitis in my elbow, but the shoulders, knees, lower back, and neck are very
50:33Speaker 0I started the world reigning cycle about a week ago, laid it out to okay. Laid it out to be 1 mg BPC
50:48Speaker 0So should I increase the dose for a shorter cycle or stick with this dose for a full 8 weeks?
50:54Speaker 0option would be a moderate dose for 5 weeks and then hold on to some supply in case I need it this spring summer when my activity level increases dramatically.
51:02Speaker 0I'd love to go high dose than low dose maintenance forever, but between my limited budget and the pending legislation,
51:09Speaker 0I'm really worried this may not, may be my only shot and I don't want to mess it up. Thanks.
51:13Speaker 1Great question. Thought through articulate question, whoever you are, sir. That was great. What a,
51:22Speaker 1the Wolverine stacks, you know, it's a blend. So it looks, sounds like you're doing those separate,
51:32Speaker 1blend that comes in the bottle. It doesn't matter, but you're separating 3 them, which is great. So do you want me to start with It's
51:39Speaker 1a great question because it made me think again, made me think like, cause I don't know, like I was thinking, I'm always in a like, slow down, like what would I do? You know? And I'm like, okay, so I've
51:50Speaker 1had so much experience with healing injuries and I've done little bits and I've done lots of bits. So the lots of bits obviously help. So that's the thing, obvious.
52:03Speaker 1going to answer it like, I don't think you should really do less than a MEG. If you can do a MEG for 8 weeks, I would do that. I might even double it and do it for a month because tendinitis
52:15Speaker 1is pretty easy to fix. I've had it so many times. A lot of I've fixed it with just the BPC,
52:29Speaker 1I can make a lot of different cases, but that's probably what I would do because I do have more experience
52:35Speaker 1mainly coming out of my back surgery and taking high doses of this and just seeing how freaking amazing
52:42Speaker 1high doses is, I was blown away by it. So that's probably now sitting today. If you asked me a few months ago, I probably wouldn't have answered the same way, but I would probably even double that double down and just attack that sucker. And I really think that it'll knock it out quick. What do you got, man? I'm into this thing. It's probably different. This
53:00Speaker 0is a tough 1. I really, I am kind of conflicted because it all depends on how your progress is going. Like my guess is dude, if you do 1 mg plus 2 mg, you won't need to do it for 8 weeks. Yeah, I agreed.
53:15Speaker 03 to 4. As long as you're not- Maybe holding out the TB on it. You don't need TB on TB. I like TB, so I
53:34Speaker 0TB-five 100 is really telling it to heal. What you want to do, the important part I guess is physically
53:40Speaker 0what you do. So tendonitis is just over, is like chronic inflammation in tendon, right?
54:13Speaker 0what you need to be doing is lifting lightweight and maybe going slow if you required to or whatever your job is. You want it to maybe feel this like dull
54:23Speaker 0That's good. That means blood's getting there, but no sharp zapping pain. And don't also don't just do nothing because it'll take a long time to heal. K? So
54:35Speaker 0I would say though, bro, I would honestly say I'd rather just make sure it's healed. So frankly, my answer would be a loading phase. I'd probably go 2 megs a day
55:29Speaker 1see what you choose and how it heals. Tinnitus is fairly easy with my experience that I think that you'll be all right. He'll be really,
55:42Speaker 0me. But I couldn't even like dry off with a towel. Get out of the shower and just pushing against my
55:47Speaker 0skin with the towel just killed me on both sides. I've- Great question though dude. That was a good question. But also inject it right at the spot.
55:54Speaker 0Wow. Do all of the injectors just right there. You basically just want to make a triangle around
56:37Speaker 1When that disc is bulging, dude, it is either in my opinion, you can do like physical therapy and all that stuff. My opinion is get the surgery and get out of pain. Because if you have pain like me, it sucks. It controlled my life. I was still working, but as Will, man, I was not myself. I was, it sucked.
56:55Speaker 1that's my answer. Would I run Khloe an extra BPC for other injuries? Absolutely. I think BPC is freaking amazing. You know, you're just adding into it, you know, close great, you know?
57:10Speaker 1these peptides are great, but they will not heal a disc problem. That is a problem that needs to be fixed in my opinion by surgery. Yep. Yep. We've both had that. I've had a double discectomy. I've had 2 bulging discs in my
57:28Speaker 0that didn't even do anything and I just had to have the surgery. So everything, it's a structural
57:33Speaker 0issue. Like Problem. The peptides aren't going to put the damn disc back. The disc needs to go back. Yeah.
57:40Speaker 0Or be cut out to that. They're really good. Those surgeries are not They are good at the surgeries. Way better. Especially, if it's just 1 and it's early,
57:47Speaker 1they can do that and you'll be like feeling good in a couple of weeks. If you were in Orange County area, I'm gonna let you know my doctor that I went to for my surgery, he's freaking top notch, dude. So if you follow us on any channels, just let us know who you are. And if you're in the area or you just happen to want to come out for the surgery for him,
58:17Speaker 0and I have There you go. Given this to friends and it has worked and healed their vitiligo. I'm not saying it's gonna help with you, but but it is what it is. So vitiligo is like this is the skin pigmentation
58:47Speaker 0I think he was like, I don't know. People say he was dying his skin white, so we don't know. He was a little peculiar.
59:05Speaker 0Although in 1, the 1 caveat to that is like, they do say the Thymosin Alpha, if you take that during an outbreak, it actually could enhance that unfortunate autoimmune disorder. Otherwise it does have a calming effect, but BPC-157.
59:18Speaker 0All right, that one's huge. Would 100 percent do that. That is basically having your body
59:25Speaker 0take more collagen in. K? Absorb more collagen, convert the food that you eat into more collagen and a signaling peptide to tell that collagen where to go.
59:37Speaker 0which is the problem to have more collagen. Will regenerate that skin better and make it more healthy. Melanotan 1.
59:49Speaker 0is a gut and man, our gut brain access, right? And that's our gut is, if that gut is healthy, that is autoimmune calming.
1:00:45Speaker 1stupidly, I have been taking it and I caught up to it as you asked your question that I should be not taking it because I do think it does that. Now, Thymosin Alpha is great. It brings down inflammation. It's good for autoimmune issues, but sometimes if you have an outbreak, as Will said, it enhances it. I'm living experience of it. I don't know for a fact, but I know, I think that's the case.
1:01:06Speaker 1enhance your immunity if it needs to. And if you have an overactive, it can bring it down. Like logically,
1:01:25Speaker 0you cannot go wrong. Keep them on, Jay. Good shot. Yeah. Good stuff for the show. Do that, attack it, attack it hard. Are taking us home today? Okay. Hi
1:01:42Speaker 1and generally healthy, but I have old knees and shoulder injuries and flare up from time to time. I recently started the Wolverine Blend Cycle, 400 micrograms of BPC-157
1:02:00Speaker 1what the minimum effective dose is. I think that's low. How long I should run it and dosing should differ for new versus old injury. Another great question. How many consecutive days can it be taken forever?
1:02:16Speaker 1How long should breaks be and how should I manage multiple injection sites of treating severe injuries?
1:02:27Speaker 1or general recovery of well-being? And if on a budget, which 1 to 2 peptides are most worth it? Lastly,
1:02:36Speaker 1I'd love your thoughts on GLO- with a G blend and how GHK- CU can take alongside Wolverine.
1:02:44Speaker 1I also take the following daily and would love your opinion on whether they're worth it. If
1:03:06Speaker 1and cranberry extract. Thanks so much. I learned a lot from the Q and A. Awesome. Let's ride. Do want to take that? When you start it? Yeah. Yeah, I'll sure. I'll take it. So minimum effective dose of BPC and TB-five hundred.
1:03:27Speaker 0but frankly, I mean, I guess I would prefer that you'd do 1000 micrograms, right? 1 mg
1:03:37Speaker 0There's that answer. How long can you take it? Like it is not harmful for you to take it forever.
1:03:44Speaker 0would, your body does kind of get used to it and it stops being as effective. So I would maybe go in, especially
1:03:59Speaker 0get it to rest a week, 2 rest, 2 weeks. And then if injury isn't healed, get back after it.
1:04:10Speaker 0I do a pretty high dose Monday, Wednesday, Friday pretty damn consistently and have been going for 3 months now. Yeah, cool. I may stop for a week and then start again. So that's not that big of a deal,
1:04:41Speaker 0mg daily. I don't know. I wouldn't go any more than that because there is such a thing with taking too much GHKCu.
1:04:47Speaker 0Too much copper in you is not a good thing. Glow, so here's here's, some math for you. If you take the glow blend, which customarily
1:05:19Speaker 0Then you draw 10 units. K? That'll give you 0.5 a milligram of BPC, 0.5 mg TB-five hundred, and 2.5 mg of GHK-two.
1:05:41Speaker 0that's for daily long term. That's maybe what I'd max out at. If you're doing it 3 days a week, you can do more GHKCU
1:05:47Speaker 0than that. Like, I wouldn't be scared to do to do in what that math I just told you to inject 20 units 3 days a week, which gives you 5 mg of GHKCU
1:05:57Speaker 0But, you know, 60 day and then take a week break and maybe kind of after a little while switch to just the Wolverine blend and then add
1:06:12Speaker 0oh, I don't really wanna hit on all of those. L glutamine is awesome. Right? I would switch to HCL creatine for sure. We've talked about that. Right? Just kind of bypasses your liver. You don't get as much water retention. You take,
1:06:29Speaker 1And 1 other question, go ahead. That's great. I think that you kind of nailed it. I'd kind of like answered my question. So you did great the way that you, that's why Will knows, he knows this guy, man knows his dosages, that's for sure.
1:06:40Speaker 1Yeah, I like to keep the JHKC separate. I mean, even though I take so much of the BPC and the TB, I do them in my shoulder, shoulder, and my back pretty
1:06:51Speaker 1I have really bad shoulders. Again, I lift weights every day, 6 days a week minimum, and I have had back surgery. So I'm just trying to stay ahead of the curve. Like Will said, I used to get tendonitis all the time and I haven't got it for a long time. I'm assuming it's because I take 1 these.
1:07:16Speaker 1It's amazing. So you would love it. I keep them separate personally. So yeah, so I think you answered and then like I'm a carnivore,
1:07:25Speaker 1you know, I don't take any of that other stuff. I think I get it all from the meat through my readings and my understanding of that. So I don't take any of that stuff
1:07:33Speaker 1except for the HCL creatine. And I think everybody should take that. I even have my wife on it. So monohydrate
1:07:44Speaker 1Social media is funny. I even put out a post on monohydrate and HCL and how monohydrate bloats me and I got attacked for that. No, it doesn't. Geez bro, like, can you not scroll past the freaking post man without yelling at me? It's just my opinion.
1:08:08Speaker 1great, man. I think I like it better like that. I think that was Will's call to do it that way. I think it's more organic.
1:08:18Speaker 1do kind of piggyback on like, because we love talking about that stuff. That was fun. I enjoyed it. Think. Great question.
1:08:33Speaker 1He comes to record. We usually record for the Peptide of the Week on Friday, but we're gonna do it because he's off work on Thursday. He will be our 1st in house guest live. We're excited. We got to see how we're going to set it up, but he is a good friend of ours, good friend of the show, good friend of us, just in general. And he knows a lot, probably 1 of the smartest guys I've known and known most of my life. So we are gonna talk about testosterone replacement. We're gonna be talking about
1:08:58Speaker 1testosterone and different esters. I know this dude right here knows his esters really well. So we're gonna dig into some of that. And Scott, Doctor. Scott is amazing with blood work. So I do want to touch a little bit on blood work because he's the only man that I trust with my blood work instead of a typical MD.
1:09:15Speaker 1So that's come in, it'll drop on Monday. Anything else? Take us out. No, dude. Awesome questions.
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