Peptide Q&A #26 – Top 5 Peptides, Vetting Peptide Vendors, Fat Loss for Lean Women Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-26-top-5-peptides-vetting-peptide-vendors-fat-loss-for-lean-women/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:01 Speaker 0: This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doomscrolling? 0:06 Speaker 0: Smart move. Another smart move? Getting help from 1 of State Farm's 19,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto. Bundling, just another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, 0:22 Speaker 0: amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. 0:35 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host JD Denham across the way, my good buddy, my friend and co host Worcester William T. Hoss. 0:46 Speaker 1: Hello. What's up, dude? How are you doing? I was gonna say that we are learning about show business. Ladies and gentlemen, we have cameras all over us. We have a sound gal. We're learning. We're learning. So you get to learn with us. So I want to talk to you ladies and gentlemen at home. I'm going to look there. If we want to talk together, we look there. So now you know. 1:06 Speaker 1: I wanted to fill them in on growing 1:08 Speaker 2: with us. So I thought that's kind of cool. Yeah, if we had to- We'd be looking at the wrong place. We're learning, 1:13 Speaker 1: but we are, we're loving the new podcast room. 1:17 Speaker 1: I'm glad we did it. We were thinking about if we were gonna do it or not. The, the, 1:22 Speaker 1: last 2 have been amazing to be great. 1:24 Speaker 1: I hope you guys have been enjoying it at home. We have been enjoying it and we're just trying to enhance the experience, sound better, look better. 1:32 Speaker 2: That's right. Good stuff. I think it's working. 1:35 Speaker 2: Seahawks 1:37 Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. I know, dude. Everybody keeps asking me, we'll go to the Super Bowl? I'm like, I don't know. Ask him. I don't care enough to spend $20. Is that what they are? Yeah. Well, so like right now- Up in the nosebleeds are $20. No. Right now the tickets are $7. 1:52 Speaker 1: Okay. 1:53 Speaker 2: But it would be, I would take me, me and my girl. 1:56 Speaker 2: So 3. That's it. 2 of them, just us 2. But 2:00 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to buy that, those tickets. I would want to buy them some They 2:04 Speaker 2: would probably be about $10 each after tax 2:07 Speaker 2: plus. So $10 after tax, then 2:11 Speaker 2: where's Stay there. It's in San Francisco. Okay. It's not too bad. San Francisco. No. 2:16 Speaker 2: It's at the Levi's Levi's Stadium. It's at the Niner Stadium 2:19 Speaker 1: in San Jose. It's the funniest thing. My wife is going to laugh because I know she listens to the podcast, especially this 1. She loves this podcast in particular, but when 2:28 Speaker 1: she married me, you know, I play football. I love football. I hate watching football. 2:32 Speaker 1: And here's my thing. And like a lot of people aren't going to agree with this, but I don't know anybody on the team, 2:38 Speaker 1: so I don't care who wins. So it's just, that might be silly to people. I don't have a team. 2:43 Speaker 1: I would rather either play football because I loved it, You know, I was pretty good at it, but, 2:48 Speaker 2: I just don't watch it. No, I understand that. Like my girl's a better, more bigger fan than I. Oh, really? She's like, woah, money at football. You played. 2:56 Speaker 2: Right. In college like me. Yeah. We just play division 1 football and 3:01 Speaker 2: like, people who have played fantasy football, I don't I have no interest in doing that. Yeah. Like, I don't really want and I'm more just I enjoy watch I'm less of a like, I'm not my heart is not gonna be broken. I will they will put me in no good or bad mood if we win or lose. It's just cool. Like, my mom's all excited. 3:17 Speaker 2: It also is a bit different if you're actually living in the city. Yeah. You know, you're a Ziox fan, you're living there like everybody, you know, just the atmosphere, everybody kind of gets you, like, gets you more pumped up. Just kind of, you 3:29 Speaker 2: fall into that, that mass thinking, right? Yeah. So it's easier to not be that much of a fan here. 3:37 Speaker 2: But yeah, fans, the experience know. The experience is When you go into a football game, it's a powerful experience, especially like the Rams stadium, like, wow. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll argue the CR Stadium is a lot better than the Rams Stadium. Oh, is it right? Yeah. I mean, the Rams Stadium's newer, but my idea of experience is so much better than the CR Stadium. I've been to both for while since. Oh, really? Oh, wow. Yeah. But 3:57 Speaker 2: it's just like, stadiums on those 2 is too damn comfortable, and you're watching that they have this giant TV. You're basically like Huge. Oh, I'm watching the TV again. I shouldn't be watching the game, the real life. What am I doing? Why am I even here? Right? But the Seattle, it feels like you're actually 4:11 Speaker 2: on the football field watching the game. Yeah. 4:15 Speaker 2: You know, a little bit fans are a lot better in Seattle. Are they? Sorry, LA people. Yeah. Touche. I mean, they are because it's a small city. How did he get stabbed? I don't know. Yeah. It's a small city. They just, 4:26 Speaker 2: right? They don't have that much more LA people. They have so much to worry about and think about. So many damn teams. Right? There's very 4:33 Speaker 2: there's a lot less loyalty. 4:35 Speaker 2: Like, in the Ram Stadium, the whole time, that jumbotron is trying to tell you, get scream louder. Get pumped up. True for a team. Right? Does it say that literally? All yeah. Oh my god. The whole time. It's actually really annoying. Seattle, they don't ever even say that, and your ears are ringing, and people did not sit down the entire game. Now it was a playoff game, so that makes a bit of difference. But 4:56 Speaker 2: anyway, yeah. So I'm more of just a fan of watching 5:00 Speaker 2: football in general. Just because of watching. Not so much. Like I enjoy that. People take it very extreme. People take it really seriously. Not saying your name is Brett. Know For sure if you're listening. Yeah. Know nobody in there. Those guys don't care about me. So I'm not going to have my 5:14 Speaker 1: day ruined. Yeah. Do you have a team? No. I don't know anybody on the team. So why would I have a team? Anyway, eats his own, like I know a lot of people love it. My wife see how we think, you know, when, so when I started dating her, she's like, oh my God, love that you don't watch football. 5:27 Speaker 1: So it was a win win for her. But so How about video games? Like- No, don't play video games. I know. Yeah. No, absolutely not. So no, I got a lot of motivation, 5:35 Speaker 1: man. I'm not going to sit home and play video games. I'm going to do some fuck, some work done. Yes. I don't see how people do that. With a gym, I'll do something productive, dude. 5:43 Speaker 1: Yes. I mean, no offense, bro. Right. Would feel, 5:46 Speaker 2: mean, I just feel guilty watching TV. Right. 5:49 Speaker 2: That I shouldn't have to watch TV 5:51 Speaker 1: since my sons were born. You get kids, man. And like, they just, they just, you just, I don't know if I'm listening, if I'm doing anything and watching YouTube on something that I'm trying to learn, 6:02 Speaker 1: you know, I'm always listening to peptide stuff. I'm always listening to carnivore stuff and just trying to get better at my crafts, so to speak. You know what I mean? And I frankly nowadays I'd rather read than watch TV. I think that that is legitimately more entertaining to me. Yeah. You've always been like that. Yeah. But not as a kid, like not as I was, I mean, 6:22 Speaker 2: I've always hated, I hated reading. My parents, I was little, when I was young and like kind of junior high, took me into Sylvan Learning Centers, 6:29 Speaker 2: which is like, they thought I had like a learning disability. They said this kid just like hates doing homework. Right? So I did all the tests and I tested out, like, the 97th percentile, and they're like, your kid's just lazy or he just hates reading. Actually, this is what they said. So my mother's college English no. Actually, my mother's a college English teacher, 6:47 Speaker 2: and she would so when your parents would read you books and your little kid and parents would read you the Clifford, the big red dog, my mom read me the entire Iliad and the Odyssey, which is a badass book for a young boy. Right? There's you're you're killing everybody with spears and there's monsters and and mythical stories, but she would read it to me. And basically they said, look, dude, you're such a good reader and he's used to listening to you read. He reads, it doesn't sound like you. So he doesn't want to do it, but he's still good at it in his own terms. They had me read and doing reading comprehension. 7:18 Speaker 2: Tested off the charts, but I mean, not off the charts. Was on the chart, but I 7:23 Speaker 2: didn't have a learning disability. 7:25 Speaker 2: I just was, didn't like to do homework. Me too. Who does? 7:28 Speaker 2: My 7:29 Speaker 2: mom did. My mom's just like, I just don't understand how you don't love doing homework. Yeah. 7:35 Speaker 1: Like, you've what? Really? You're kidding me. Then you become punk rocker like me and like punk rockers, it's kind of just a rebellious. I came out of the womb with a Mohawk dude, so got to be old enough. I was good at sports, so that kind of kept me in line, but I was just like, yeah, I don't like homework, so I'm just not going to do it. So that was a problem with my parents. But when you have a kid that just 7:53 Speaker 1: doesn't really care that much, how do get to make it? I was a rough kid. Tough. I was a rough kid. Yeah. That's why I'm attracted to the punk rock scene. So, 8:02 Speaker 1: but it's a peptide of the week podcast and the Q and A episode. 8:07 Speaker 1: Now we did, if you'll watch my stories, it all dropped it to let you guys know that we are doing it a little bit differently. How we generally have been doing it is 8:15 Speaker 1: we sit down right before 8:17 Speaker 1: the podcast we record, we run through them really quickly and we kind of just talk through them. That's kind of what we have been doing today. 8:23 Speaker 1: We did it a little bit differently. We read through them ourselves 8:26 Speaker 1: so that 8:27 Speaker 1: our answers will be organically me, 8:30 Speaker 1: will, because we don't always agree. We often agree because we 8:35 Speaker 1: talk about this stuff often, but today might be a little bit of a different flare. So let's dive in. Okay. Do the honor. Number 1. 8:43 Speaker 2: Hi Warriors, Charlie from Sydney, Australia. 8:46 Speaker 2: My question is, 8:48 Speaker 2: what are your top 5 peptides 8:51 Speaker 2: and why? 8:53 Speaker 2: You want me to run it? Go ahead. Top 5 peptides. Okay, so curveball, I would imagine you're all going to think I'm going say Retta, but I'm not. It's on my top. I'm going to say that Wolverine is definitely my top. If I could only choose 1, it would be the Wolverine because I will lift weights to the day that I die. 9:09 Speaker 2: And 9:10 Speaker 2: if you do that, you are in pain a lot. I have shoulder injuries. I don't get tendinitis as much, knock on wood, but I used to get it a lot. I have back problems. So anyways, I'm going to take the Wolverine stack, which is for people that don't know, is TB-five 9:25 Speaker 2: hundred, 9:26 Speaker 2: Thymosin beta-four, and it is gonna be, BBC-one hundred 57, which those that blend, in my opinion, is freaking amazing. 9:34 Speaker 2: It completely 9:36 Speaker 1: blows my mind when I have an injury and then I take it. It's 9:40 Speaker 1: done that numerous times. So any of that will be into my number 1. Now, number 2 will be, it's 9:45 Speaker 1: going be the red shoe tag because 9:48 Speaker 1: pound for pound, 9:50 Speaker 1: it by far 9:51 Speaker 1: is the best pound for pound peptide on the planet. I don't know if anything's going to ever come close to it, what it does. It is almost for everybody on the planet, except if you're already too skinny. If you're a skinny, dinky little gal like my wife, no way is she taking it? She would wither away. 10:07 Speaker 1: But for gym rats, 10:09 Speaker 1: if you need to lose weight, 10:11 Speaker 1: if you, you know what I mean? It's for everybody. So I use it just to give me that little edge to stay leaner. 10:18 Speaker 1: So I use the Retatrutide. 10:22 Speaker 1: 3rd 10:23 Speaker 1: will be, I am a cutter guy. I like to say super lean. So I'm going to throw in my AOD-nine 10:30 Speaker 1: 604. 10:31 Speaker 1: Well, I just did a podcast on it last week. It dropped on Monday. Hopefully you saw it. If you didn't check it out because it's great. So AOD 10:39 Speaker 1: is the last piece of the HGH chain and all it does is burn fat and you can take pretty high doses of it because it doesn't increase your IGF-one. 10:48 Speaker 1: It doesn't have any negative effects of the growth hormone that some people worry about. So that will be my number 3. 10:54 Speaker 1: And then I will throw in, 10:56 Speaker 1: gosh, this is actually thrown HGH, which actually probably might be my number 2, but anyways, HGH Somatropin 11:03 Speaker 1: is definitely there. And then last, will throw a mitochondria, will probably be, 11:08 Speaker 1: it's a toss-up between NAD or MOTS-3C. 11:12 Speaker 1: That's a tie at 5, but 11:15 Speaker 1: I could go Yeah. On and 11:17 Speaker 1: And I could keep going, but they're Yeah. They're just freaking amazing. Yeah. Mean, they're just freaking amazing. So Alright. Have similar 1. So I 11:25 Speaker 2: won't reexplain your explanations. Alright? Retta also. Yeah, dude. Number 1? Just hit his has to be. Like, I don't 11:32 Speaker 2: don't take in a whole For bunch 200 of for you? Oh. Well, no. I mean, I guess these are just the top 5 best peptides 11:39 Speaker 2: in general. Not not in order and not So let's put them in order. Let's say, well, you had to choose 1 BPC-CTV. 11:45 Speaker 2: Okay. Because also, yes, I will lift weights till the day I die. And anybody who knows, right, we may look good, but like you don't really feel like that sometimes. Everything 11:55 Speaker 2: is hurting and that- But we still go. It makes a huge difference. And no doubt, like you're like, I haven't had tendonitis in a while. Probably because you're taking BPC-400HRP-100HRP-100HRP-100HRP-100HRP-1.00HRP-1s): 12:05 Speaker 2: your explanation, TB-five hundred folks is also known as like Thymosin beta-four. 12:11 Speaker 2: You said those 3 names and people might get confused thinking it was 3 things. But anyway I was trying to I was tapping into my William T. Hoss. Good view, bro. 12:19 Speaker 2: TBB, 12:20 Speaker 2: so the Wolverine stat, BPC- TB-five 100. 12:24 Speaker 2: Then 12:26 Speaker 2: IGF-1LR-three. 12:28 Speaker 2: Why? Oh, that surprises me. It's it's like it's tough for men. It's tough for men out there with peptides 12:35 Speaker 2: to find stuff that actually helps build muscle. 12:38 Speaker 2: And that's 1 of your strongest muscle builders. So that thing's awesome. You can't run a very long 4 to 6 weeks or so, but 12:46 Speaker 2: yes, effective. Then I'll do another blend. Maybe that's cheating, right, because we're saying 2 at a time, but Tesamorelin, 12:52 Speaker 2: Ipamorelin. Okay. I think that 12:55 Speaker 2: CJC Ipamorelin is a stronger 12:57 Speaker 2: like 12:58 Speaker 2: secretagogue, 12:59 Speaker 2: So it's a GHRH, 13:01 Speaker 2: GHRP. 13:02 Speaker 2: Put together, you should always take both. Well, I think you should always take both. One's gonna tell your body, make more natural growth hormone. The other 1 is just gonna kind of amplify those growth hormone pulses, the Ipamorelin is. But Tasamorelin is like clinically proven to burn stubborn belly fat. I say stubborn belly fat, but it was actually developed by 13:20 Speaker 2: AIDS patients, for AIDS patients who had this like fat freezing, which was in their stomach, their abdominal like fat would freeze and that was 13:30 Speaker 2: basically was lethal to them. So they developed Tesamorelin to just literally target burn that stomach fat. 13:37 Speaker 2: So amazing and everybody will 13:39 Speaker 2: benefit. My grandmother, 13:41 Speaker 2: mother, you know, everybody except for maybe young kids will benefit from their, from increased natural HGH. And 13:51 Speaker 2: so NAD 13:52 Speaker 2: plus 13:54 Speaker 2: like that stuff, dude. I really, really like it. It gives it's a it's a new topic. It gives like energy, it gives physical energy, 14:01 Speaker 2: and I definitely notice 14:02 Speaker 2: the look. If I after I'm done with kind of a cycle of it, 14:06 Speaker 2: look, my skin looks 14:08 Speaker 2: newer, tighter, etcetera. So long term use, hell, that stuff's awesome. And then Retta. Yeah, I don't use it that much, but I mean, it just is 14:18 Speaker 2: probably the best, 14:20 Speaker 2: most effective, 14:21 Speaker 2: like safe. Like this shit's good for you. It is good for you if you don't abuse it, you know? Like straight up, none of these, I mean, all these actually are none of these are bad for you. Now IGF-one can be bad for you if you take it 14:33 Speaker 2: wrong, take too much. But 14:36 Speaker 2: Reta is actually good for a person. Yeah. 14:39 Speaker 1: So yeah. Yeah, I think that was a great question. I think a better question would have been what's your top 14:45 Speaker 1: that would been a little easier for me to answer. Got so many. My 14:49 Speaker 1: turn. Great question whoever asked that. So I'm running Tesa Ipamorelin, but I want to switch back to CJC Ipamorelin and 14:58 Speaker 1: also switched the company I'm getting them from. Didn't know if that was okay. 15:03 Speaker 1: Also, I'm wanting to add IGF-1LR-three 15:06 Speaker 1: to the stack. I'm currently running 2, 15:11 Speaker 1: but don't know dosage 15:13 Speaker 1: if that's okay. If that's okay. Thank you guys for everything. I love the brand and podcast. 15:18 Speaker 1: My stack is CLO, 15:21 Speaker 1: Tesa Ipamorelin, NAD, 15:24 Speaker 1: SS-31and 15:25 Speaker 1: Semax. 15:26 Speaker 2: Good for you. 15:29 Speaker 2: Alright. So, yeah, I'll give you the doses. So 1st of all, yeah, cool. That's okay. Well, it's okay to run it's okay, 1st of all, to switch from Tesa Ipah to CJC 15:38 Speaker 2: Ipah. Awesome. You should after you run, you know, I don't know, 16 weeks of Tesa Ipah, great. Switch to the other 1. That's 15:48 Speaker 2: okay. And 15:50 Speaker 2: dosages for and it's okay to run IGF-1LR 15:53 Speaker 2: 3 with either of those. Dosages, 15:56 Speaker 2: I would say the CJC Ipah and Tesa IpA same thing. My guess is you have like a 5 mg 16:03 Speaker 2: plus 5 mg bottle. 16:05 Speaker 2: Okay? 16:07 Speaker 2: I would do, I don't know if you're a man or a woman, I probably would give a woman a little bit less of a dose, but I personally take like 1000, 16:15 Speaker 2: I would take at a high dose, 1000 16:17 Speaker 2: micrograms, 16:18 Speaker 2: which is 1 mg 16:20 Speaker 2: of each of those. Okay? At a low dose, 16:24 Speaker 2: would So probably as a woman, I would start at 2 50 micrograms 16:28 Speaker 2: of each, right? Tesla and Ipah or CJC and Ipah, and you slowly titrate up. Okay. Again, if you start too high and you get water retention, well, that's why. Then you need to drop her down and then slowly titrate up. So might as well just start correctly and let your body get used to it, and that's why it didn't titrate up. So 16:47 Speaker 2: range 250 micrograms 16:50 Speaker 2: of each substance, right, up to 1000. 16:52 Speaker 2: And 16:53 Speaker 2: IGF-one LR3, I'd start at 20 micrograms 16:57 Speaker 2: a day. Usually, 16:59 Speaker 2: that stuff comes in like 1 mg bottles. So again, 1 mg is equal to 1000 micrograms. 17:04 Speaker 2: So I'd start at 20 micrograms a day, max, max, max out at 80 micrograms a day. 17:10 Speaker 2: But your body will build a tolerance, go 4 to 6 weeks ending at, I don't know, probably I would try not to get up to 80, but I would try to end at like 60, maybe 70 micrograms. But that's a slow even 17:23 Speaker 2: titration up throughout those 4 to 6 weeks. 17:26 Speaker 2: So hopefully that's helpful. 17:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. 17:30 Speaker 1: Think so. 17:32 Speaker 2: You done? Yeah. All right. 17:34 Speaker 1: So I think the stack is great. I think it's very thought through. I mean, you pretty much cover everything and you're, you're, you're adding in the Tesof Ipamorelin. Are you going back to the CDC? I'm assuming you're a man. Didn't say, 17:46 Speaker 1: I think the Tesla, it was better. I would stick with the Tesla, who am I? I don't know, just an opinion. 17:52 Speaker 1: Will and I are going to do a cast on the CJC 17:56 Speaker 1: soon because we haven't really dug into that deeply. I recently used it for the 1st time and I didn't have the best experience with it. We've talked about that. So we're going to dig in that a little bit better. So I'm just not a fan of CJC, but a lot of people are so each his own. 18:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, clothes great. I just started taking that again just because of the KPV. 18:14 Speaker 1: It's really good for the gut health. So I think you got that covered. You got your secretagogue where it's going to increase growth hormone. You got your MOTS-thirty 18:22 Speaker 1: 1 for your mitochondria. 18:23 Speaker 1: NAD is going to give you 18:25 Speaker 1: energy. C max, I'm assuming you want to kind of calm down a little bit if you're 18:30 Speaker 1: I think that you got it covered. Thought through. I think you got it covered, man. I think whoever that you are, man or woman, that's a great sack and stuff. 18:40 Speaker 1: Cool. You covered that. Know. 18:42 Speaker 1: Right. I'm 18:44 Speaker 2: up reading. Okay. 18:46 Speaker 2: I was reading on Reddit that it's hard to know where to buy peptides from because so many places, 18:51 Speaker 2: because so many places share their COAs, their certificates of analysis, 18:56 Speaker 2: but don't have endotoxin testing. This terrifies me. I had no idea the testing being done wasn't checking for harmful stuff being added to the mix. What should you look for when vetting a peptide vendor? 19:08 Speaker 2: I've gotten Tirzepatide from a compounding pharmacy 19:11 Speaker 2: a few months ago that I swear was just backwater. 19:15 Speaker 2: I accidentally took double my dose and felt nothing. No nausea, nothing. I recently stumbled upon 1 that sells the peptides reconstituted, 19:22 Speaker 2: but they don't have any COAs 19:24 Speaker 2: or testing in their site. I wanted to be careful. I'd love all the tips you have. Thanks for everything you put 19:31 Speaker 2: out for us. You 2 are the coolest. Hey. Alright. Thank you. Appreciate you. Okay. I got a couple of answers for you. Go for A, 19:39 Speaker 2: the company that sells them reconstituted 19:42 Speaker 2: beats Don't do that. Careful, dude. I'm not do it. That's just a 19:45 Speaker 2: gimmick to make it easier on you. Like, look, it's easier on you. But dude, these things, as soon as you add water, as soon as you reconstitute, that thing is the clock starts ticking in on its effectiveness. 19:55 Speaker 2: Okay? It will start to degrade faster. Some peptides 19:59 Speaker 2: last longer 20:01 Speaker 2: reconstituted 20:02 Speaker 2: than others, but 20:04 Speaker 2: most 3 of these things, when they warm up to room temp, they start degrading really fast. So chances are, I mean, they're just doing that- Is that cold air 20:12 Speaker 1: like- Rough. Yeah. Don't do that. Don't don't get there's no point to it. All you gotta do is add water, dude. Like Yeah. Really. It's it's easy to add to add for that. I I would not use a company like that. We can help you, 20:24 Speaker 2: point you to a place that exact 20:27 Speaker 0: This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doomscrolling? 20:32 Speaker 0: Smart move. Another smart move? Getting help from 1 of State Farm's 19,000 local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto. Bundling, just another way to save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, 20:49 Speaker 0: amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. 20:53 Speaker 2: It tells you exactly how much water to add and makes it really, really, really easy. 2nd, 20:59 Speaker 2: the endotoxins. 21:01 Speaker 2: So make sure, okay, so here's Koas. 21:05 Speaker 2: Most and the Koas should have a little code that you can verify those tests, Right? You can go back to that independent lab 21:13 Speaker 2: and enter that code in and then the lab will it'll bring up that test. Okay? Oftentimes on these sites, they'll and usually the codes at the bottom, especially in Janosik tests, 21:22 Speaker 2: these sites will cut off the code. So no person doesn't know. They look at the test. Great. That looks good. But 21:28 Speaker 2: they cut off the code for a reason because they doctored the tests or whatever. Right? So make sure that you can verify 21:34 Speaker 2: the COAs. Now most of them, right, do not have endotoxin testing. I would also be very wary 21:40 Speaker 2: of any place that does in house testing, right? It's like they produce the best test and then they show you the report of them testing it 21:47 Speaker 2: by, know, 21:49 Speaker 2: any child could just Photoshop that and saying you have no way to double check. 21:53 Speaker 2: The endotoxin test. So here's a little story. I 21:57 Speaker 2: don't know. I am not as wary 21:59 Speaker 2: about 22:01 Speaker 2: toxins and things that I put that like harmful things that I've put in my body because I put some really harmful things in my body and I've still lived Right? Through 22:10 Speaker 2: I 22:12 Speaker 2: did at 1 point early on before 22:15 Speaker 2: I was really into this, I was taking peptide and I sent that 1 out 22:20 Speaker 2: to be tested. And the endotoxin test came back at like 40. 22:24 Speaker 2: I forget what the actual like reading is, but like, but 22:27 Speaker 2: it came back as 40. So now I know the endotoxin range, like an acceptable safe range is like below 2. 22:35 Speaker 2: All right. 22:37 Speaker 2: That's scary. It tested out 40. And 22:39 Speaker 2: I did like 4 bottles of it. Did you get sick? No. 22:43 Speaker 2: I didn't notice a damn difference at all. So I guess that's what I'm saying. Nobody, 22:48 Speaker 2: I don't know. Who's to say, Maybe you just keep doing that and it becomes really bad. So I don't know. 22:54 Speaker 2: I don't have any stories to tell you. People share with us a whole lot. 22:59 Speaker 2: Have dealt and 23:00 Speaker 2: yeah, helped thousands of people take peptides and nobody's ever told me anything about any 23:07 Speaker 2: negative 23:08 Speaker 2: symptoms about 23:09 Speaker 2: everotoxins. 23:11 Speaker 2: I 23:12 Speaker 2: know that we 23:14 Speaker 2: have tested 23:15 Speaker 2: a lot of the peptides that we personally deal with and we have those endotoxin tests. 23:21 Speaker 2: So 23:22 Speaker 2: if anybody wants to see those, we can share those with you. 23:26 Speaker 2: But I would look at COAs. 23:28 Speaker 2: I don't know. Just like, here's the deal. I don't want to dissuade you from that, but I'm not that worried. Now I would rather use something to test out at the end of test test at 1 than 40, for sure. I'd be very wary. I wouldn't if I had if I had knew that, known that in advance, I wouldn't have done that. But guess what? I did it, then figured it out, 23:45 Speaker 2: and I'm and I didn't die. 23:49 Speaker 2: But so, yeah, I don't know. What other questions? Go ahead and answer some other questions. I 23:53 Speaker 1: mean, so here's the thing. You don't say the dosage of your tirzepatide and you have to understand that everybody's very different. I mean, I am somebody that doesn't get nauseous. So, 24:02 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really run tirzepatide, but I've 24:06 Speaker 1: taken it once just to kind of see the difference between that and Retta. 24:09 Speaker 1: I don't get nauseous, you know, and I did the same dose as the Retta, 24:14 Speaker 1: and I didn't feel anything like that. And I know that the tirzepatide that I took was good. 24:18 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying you're wrong or you're right. I'm just saying you might be different. You could be taking like 0.5 of a meg and then you doubled it and that's a full meg and that would be a low dose. So that 24:27 Speaker 1: could be the case. Again, I'm not questioning you. I'm just saying, what, how much are you taking? 24:32 Speaker 1: You know, and I think Will already answered 24:34 Speaker 1: that part. Now this 24:36 Speaker 1: is kind of a catch-twenty 2 to a degree because 24:40 Speaker 1: I am not a big fan of like pharmaceutical companies. If you've watched any of my channels, I'm pretty open about that. 24:47 Speaker 1: I think that they, 24:50 Speaker 1: I'll just leave it there. I'm not a big fan. 24:52 Speaker 1: We have a 24:54 Speaker 1: catch-twenty 2 to the degree where we all have the access to get things for cheaper 24:59 Speaker 1: without going through pharmaceutical companies because they will take a monopoly and they'll charge us that they control the supply and demand aspect 25:06 Speaker 1: of it. So the 25:08 Speaker 1: catch of that is you 25:12 Speaker 1: you have to kind of do the research on the company. There are great companies. There are great companies that have true COAs and they're not hard to find if they're legit or not 25:22 Speaker 1: because the companies that 25:25 Speaker 1: get the real ones, they spend a lot of money on them. I speak with experience, so you know, like too much money, but like it's worth it to them so that their products are legit. 25:33 Speaker 1: Right? So you can find those companies 25:36 Speaker 1: and to be blunt, 25:37 Speaker 1: you know, I think you can get a good feel for 25:41 Speaker 1: whether it be intuition or like the company you're working with. If it's cheap, 25:46 Speaker 1: injecting it. Don't 25:47 Speaker 2: buy cheap peptides. 25:49 Speaker 1: Like if it's too cheap, they're cheap for a reason. You get what 25:53 Speaker 1: you, you buy. So 25:55 Speaker 1: if it's me, I'm not gonna buy the cheapest on the corner. Know, like the ones that are more expensive aren't necessarily expensive because they're trying to be expensive. That means they test their products and they have to pay for the test of the products and those testing costs quite a bit of money and that's the why. So that 26:11 Speaker 1: can help you kind of decipher that. So I hope that helps. I think we both answered that. So I hope that helps. On the Tirzepatide, like it sounds like you were 26:20 Speaker 2: a consistent user of Tirzepatide 26:23 Speaker 2: prior because you said you had a normal daily dose and 26:27 Speaker 2: it did nothing. So I don't know. Do, you know, we do build a tolerance. It sounds like you kind of knew what maybe you were talking about, 26:36 Speaker 2: But we'd all do build a tolerance, 26:39 Speaker 2: but hell they sure could have. It also sounds like they gave it to you. It was all backwater, right? They gave it to you reconstituted. 26:46 Speaker 2: If that's the case, don't do that. That's probably why because they gave it, they may have reconstituted it. I don't know who knows how long before they actually gave it to you. They didn't keep it refrigerated. They let light get them in. They didn't put, I don't know, the backwater wasn't actually backwater. It was just sterile water, right? The whole point of backwater, the bacteria static water is to keep bacteria out of the peptide so it doesn't degrade. 27:07 Speaker 2: Not really to keep you safe from 27:10 Speaker 2: bacteria. Okay. 27:13 Speaker 2: There could be a lot of reasons, man. I don't know. I have heard that a lot. I've heard that from, from, 27:17 Speaker 2: I've, I've heard that quite a few times. I think it's simple. Don't use a company that reconstitute their water for you. Just don't, don't get the water. It takes so easy. Talk to the company, email, email, email in the company you're writing for. A lot of these places are just, 27:30 Speaker 2: yeah, don't have a real, I mean, if they're a bigger, bigger outfit, right, and there's a 27:36 Speaker 2: bigger lab that 27:38 Speaker 2: you know, right, that makes the product, there's a lab, right, that is the lab and then you have a company that sells those peptides, 27:45 Speaker 2: That's probably a safer bet 1 than a company, a website that sells their own 27:52 Speaker 2: For 0.5 the price of other companies. Yeah. Especially if it's cheap, right? There's somewhat of a, 27:57 Speaker 2: red flag, but talk to them, see if they actually have any infrastructure of like customer service, right? That'll tell you a lot. If they actually want to answer your questions or they just want to duck and dive and just take your money, 28:07 Speaker 1: right? 28:08 Speaker 2: That's a good sign. 28:11 Speaker 1: Warriors. 28:12 Speaker 1: Happy new year has been amazing 28:14 Speaker 1: for me as I discovered your podcast and I've started my fitness journey. Have nothing good, 28:19 Speaker 1: nothing 28:20 Speaker 1: but good has come out of my journey. 28:22 Speaker 1: Maybe some back knee, but I have that under control. 28:26 Speaker 1: I want to give you my liver ultrasound results. My ALT SGP- 28:31 Speaker 1: SGPT 28:32 Speaker 1: has elevated in the past couple of months, but my ultrasound came back normal. The PCP believes my rapid weight loss 28:40 Speaker 1: from GLP-two GLP-three might have produced lots of fatty acids in the liver and some now have fatty liver. 28:48 Speaker 1: He's not worried. He said, the time the liver will recover, 28:52 Speaker 1: I will continue my Reta and new year. 28:55 Speaker 1: I'll start my Ipatella. 28:57 Speaker 1: I believe that will help combat my fatty liver. Let me know your thoughts. PS I did do a cycle of Anovar 50 29:04 Speaker 1: Migs 29:05 Speaker 1: for 60 days back in June or July. I'm sure that didn't help. I'll start. 29:10 Speaker 1: Might as well. 29:11 Speaker 1: Yes, 29:12 Speaker 1: it can. So if you're going to lose weight too fast, that can affect your liver. So just a simple answer to keep it very simple. That's probably what happened. I personally wouldn't be worried 1 bit. You would recover. You've probably already recovered. 29:26 Speaker 1: Cause that's common. If you gain weight too fast, it's a problem. If you lose weight too fast, it's a problem. There's a problem as if anything's done too fast, like go slow and, 29:34 Speaker 1: it's, you know, your liver 29:36 Speaker 1: can't work that fast because it's not used to it. So easy fix. It'll iron out. In my opinion, 29:42 Speaker 1: we might have a different opinion on that 1. And in regards to the ANNOVAR, let's talk about it real quick. I personally don't think the ANNOVAR from June or July is going to be a problem. I think if you had said you just took it, it could be a problem, but I don't think, I think 6, 7 months back. I would- Personally, especially Anabar's, 30:01 Speaker 1: even though it's an oral, it's of those leaner, 30:05 Speaker 1: cleaner, oil, oral. So I get where you're going with that, but I personally don't think that has anything to do 6, 7 months back. So that's my- It may it may have. Possible. It may have. Absolutely. I think it's the GLP-1. I don't know you- I think you 30:17 Speaker 2: had, 30:19 Speaker 2: Mr. Arthur here, I think you had written in before 30:23 Speaker 2: talk giving us a little bit brief 30:27 Speaker 2: what's going on with your doctor and your liver. Then you said you were going to go get this test and then tell us how it went. We said, hey, tell us how it went. I believe it was what, right? 30:35 Speaker 2: This is you. So cool. Good follow-up. And 30:39 Speaker 2: good. I'm glad the doctor isn't worried. Here's 1. You should try fasting. Like this is why. So people 30:46 Speaker 2: who are overeating and eating 6 meals a day, bodybuilders eating like we only have body our livers can only it's our filter, right? It can only just process that much food constantly coming Right? 30:58 Speaker 2: Like it's not good for your it's not great for your liver. This is and what is a good solution is fasting. 31:05 Speaker 2: Fasting finally, 31:07 Speaker 2: like your liver gets to a break. 31:09 Speaker 2: And what does it do in the absence of having to overwork? It starts flushing, cleaning yourself out. This is why when people go fast, they 31:17 Speaker 2: start just shedding tons of water, right? You start doing some big intermittent fasting and 31:22 Speaker 2: after a couple of days, 31:24 Speaker 2: I've lost like 10 pounds of just water weight. You look way leaner because the liver is finally working 31:29 Speaker 2: correctly 31:30 Speaker 2: and you were backed up retaining water because of that. So I 31:35 Speaker 2: would give that a try. 31:38 Speaker 2: But I do think, man, you know, our liver is a resilient thing. It is 1 of the most important organs in our entire body. So don't want to be bad to it, but it also, since it's so effing important, it better be resilient. And 31:49 Speaker 2: so it probably will bounce back as long as you're good to it. 31:52 Speaker 2: The trick is to just not continually be rough on your liver. So thank you for the results. I'm glad that you're gonna be doing fine and, I would do that, yeah, continue with the RET, I think low dose and it actually will help. 32:05 Speaker 2: And everything that he said is correct. Go ahead with the Ipatella. 32:08 Speaker 2: I do think that will really help the Tessa. Yeah. This is good. Alright. For sure. Good job. Who's that for you? So, yeah. Hi. Thanks for all you guys do. Love your content. I'm a 33 year old female, five'four, 32:20 Speaker 2: and about 15% 32:21 Speaker 2: body fat. 32:23 Speaker 2: That's low. 32:24 Speaker 2: I want to lose some stubborn fat in my glutes. Why? And tricep area. Started low dose Reta about a month ago, 500 micrograms 32:34 Speaker 2: 2 times a week. Also started to glow about a month ago in SS-thirty 1 last week for some mitochondrial health. Do you recommend anything else right now, or should I wait till this cycle ends? Haven't really lost any weight on Retatr so far and feel hungry and thirsty on the day I inject. 32:50 Speaker 2: Then I feel satisfied full of subsequent days until the next injection. Good. Should I up my dose at all on that? Thanks again so much. Anything else you guys think to add in this current cycle or include in my next cycle is appreciated. 33:03 Speaker 2: All right. 33:05 Speaker 2: So as a female at 15% body fat, damn, that's low. That's really low. That's low. Maybe or is that right? Like you still wanna lose fat after that? 33:15 Speaker 2: Maybe that's not maybe the 15% isn't correct. Right? Men like men 33:19 Speaker 2: should be at 15 33:21 Speaker 2: is the general 16, 15, 16, 15, 33:25 Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to picture that. Basically, you'll stop having your period, 33:28 Speaker 2: because you don't have enough fat to support a baby, so God will be like, nah. 33 years old. Can't have that. Men should be about 10%. 33:35 Speaker 2: Start, that is when you can see your 6 pack. Just FYI. 33:39 Speaker 2: I 33:40 Speaker 2: would say that about 15% is equal to about 8% on the man. Okay. Okay. Lean. But lean. But women are supposed to have more fat. This is it is anyway. 33:50 Speaker 2: So, but whatever. Okay. Forget that. Maybe whatever you happen to be you and you want what you want. So that's fine. 33:57 Speaker 2: 500 micrograms. So that's 0.5 a Mig twice a week. That's low. That is lower than the lowest starting dose. Starting dose is 2.5 mg, right? And so you're doing 1 mg. 34:10 Speaker 2: You will notice right after absolutely like day you inject, it really kind of does kick in like a day or 2 after. That's what people really notice. So you're you are feeling it, which no doubt because you're pretty small, 34:21 Speaker 2: at that dose, 34:23 Speaker 2: but you could bump up if you wanted to and it will help. I would add in what you are taking now is not anything else for fat burning help. 34:33 Speaker 2: Add in AOD, 34:34 Speaker 2: shoot, in, so you're taking Reta, but you're taking my SS-thirty 34:38 Speaker 2: 1 mitochondrial and glow. Okay. Which is all just, which is all healing BPC, 34:43 Speaker 2: TB, and GHK- 34:44 Speaker 2: So why don't you add in 34:47 Speaker 2: SLU-3P if you're working out hard, 34:49 Speaker 2: AOD? 34:50 Speaker 1: Yeah. 34:52 Speaker 2: A 5 amino 1 MQ, 34:53 Speaker 2: L carnitine, those are all options 34:56 Speaker 2: based on probably the best fat burner to 34:59 Speaker 2: the worst. 35:00 Speaker 2: Even though the L Carnitine isn't bad. So that's all I got for you. That was great. And that was awesome you stole my answer. 35:08 Speaker 1: You thief. Thief, my bad. No, it's good. I think that he nailed it. I mean, like I said, I, my little bride is tiny. You know, she's asked a couple times, should I take Greta? I said, not. Not a chance in hell, babe. 35:20 Speaker 1: She's tiny. She's tiny. I remember her with her away. Like clonbuterol years ago. She's like, I want some. Yeah. Know. I'm like, you're tiny, baby. You don't get me. I mean, I've said this countless times, but I mean, a little bit goes a long way for you gals, man. It just does, especially if you're tiny. So you don't do need to do a lot of anything. You don't, you're going to like shine on anything. 35:38 Speaker 1: I would probably drop the Retta, even though we love Retta. But like I said, I wouldn't even give it to my bride. I would say AOD 35:44 Speaker 1: and Tessa, like those 2, I gave it to my wife and she was leaning. She got freaking chiseled, man. She got chiseled. 35:50 Speaker 1: Like right now she's tiny. I'm telling her to plump up a little bit. I'm a baby need to eat more. You know, I love her tiny, but like a little bit of chunk on her or a little bit of more weight on her. So anyways, each his own, but that's what we'll, we'll nailed it. You can, I would drop the Reta? I don't just don't think, I don't think you need it with your size. I think you can get there with other peptides that 36:09 Speaker 1: probably do better for you. The AOD, 36:12 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin at night, those 2 together will be great. 36:18 Speaker 1: I think that bit 36:20 Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, dude. Would love to know what your diet is too. You don't talk about that, but that would be great. Pretty good to be. So at, like, at 120 pounds Well, they maybe need to eat more. Like maybe that, like a lot of women have that they don't, 36:32 Speaker 1: that doesn't register for women because we've trained a lot of women. I know we both agree with that because women, 36:38 Speaker 1: that food thing for men, they get that for women. They just have a hard time thinking that sometimes more food actually does you better. My wife has that problem. Like baby eat more, you'll look, it will just a pioneer now. So 36:50 Speaker 2: like our bodies as we are cavemen, think of it that way, right? And 36:53 Speaker 2: our body, your metabolism slows down and speeds up 36:58 Speaker 2: equivalent to the amount of calories we take in. Alright? Why? Because when it was wintertime and food was scarce 37:05 Speaker 2: and it was cold outside and we could only eat, you know, 1 37:08 Speaker 2: squirrel a day, if our metabolism stayed high like it did in the summertime, we would burn all of our tissue off and 37:15 Speaker 2: die. So 37:18 Speaker 2: we eat this many calories and our metabolism 37:20 Speaker 2: drops down to this slow. Then 37:24 Speaker 2: a lot of people, I mean, this is what we call a crash diet, right? You eat lots of calories, now we got this gap, so now I lose weight, but metabolism catches up after 2 weeks or so. Nobody can sustain a crash diet, metabolism's on the floor, you start eating again and all the weight comes back. For sure. 37:40 Speaker 2: That's basically probably the most typical. Yeah, absolutely. And but also muscle. So people lose weight, they end up losing, you know, they if they're losing a lot of weight, you end up losing decent amount of muscle. Again, our basal metabolic rate is tied to our lean muscle. So you lose the more muscle you lose, 37:56 Speaker 2: slower 37:57 Speaker 2: the metabolism is. Okay? And I guess don't think of metabolism as high 38:01 Speaker 2: and low, think of it as slow and fat, or I mean, don't think of it as slow and fast, think of it as high and low. It's a number. 38:07 Speaker 2: So less muscle, 38:09 Speaker 2: lower metabolism. That's not good. Right? So 38:13 Speaker 2: eat more protein 38:15 Speaker 2: and add muscle, and then we will see that fat come off even faster and easier. 38:20 Speaker 1: That testimony won't help with that that, you know, some of that fat you're talking about. Yeah. So Alright. Hope that helps. Yep. Alright. Who's up? Me? You are 38:28 Speaker 1: I had my stuff the wrong way. Let me get my glasses on. Alright. Here we go. 38:34 Speaker 1: Hey guys, absolutely loving the podcast. Thank you. Great info coming out from it. Looking forward to the new year with special guests as well. 38:44 Speaker 1: You know what I want to tell you real quick, me to pause, we're to have Doctor. Scott coming on next 38:49 Speaker 1: 2 days from now. We're going to talk a lot about TRT. 38:52 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about blood work. We're going to talk about some cool stuff. So I meant to say that in the beginning. Doctor. Scott's coming on for, in 2 days, he'll be here live. It'll be cool. So the majority of the talk is about running SS-31Before 39:06 Speaker 1: MOTS-1C or even running them together. 39:09 Speaker 1: But I recently I'm hearing more of an argument about running MOTS-1C before SS-31. 39:15 Speaker 1: Yes. That's what I would always think. Sorry. Yeah. You're good. Well, just wanted to get your thoughts on that. What's beneficial 39:21 Speaker 1: about running them together 39:23 Speaker 1: compared to separately? I'm 39 year old male resistance trained 3 to 35 year old male. Cool to get to know resistance training 3 to 3 times per week with heavy weight, average 8,000 39:34 Speaker 1: steps per day, current weight 2 60, 39:36 Speaker 1: 25% 39:37 Speaker 1: body fat, and looking to get down to 2 10. I'm low carb, 39:42 Speaker 1: 80 or less per day. I also take Retta 39:45 Speaker 1: 2 Migs, Friday, Sunday, and Tuesday. Now, did you read that as 6 Migs or 2 Migs total? That was the listing. So 2 Migs Friday, Sunday, and Tuesday. I'm assuming that's 2 that's 6 Migs. Yeah. CJC 39:57 Speaker 1: 12 95, Ipamorelin, 39:59 Speaker 1: 200 micrograms nightly, 40:02 Speaker 1: TriHeal 40:03 Speaker 1: nightly. I'm 40:06 Speaker 1: to get 7 hours of sleep every night, but I work 4AM to 01:30 with an hour commute each way, which adds up to waking up at 02:30AM. Damn it. Know I'm going to get up earlier than me, man. You got me beat dude. And getting home at 02:30. 40:22 Speaker 1: So that can be tough. 40:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. That's tough. Tough when throwing in, working out and spending time with my family. I feel you brother. 40:30 Speaker 1: I've been running MOTS-1C and finally got my hands on SS-31and 40:35 Speaker 1: NAD plus. Those are great 3, by the way, wanting to see what you think of the stack. What could I change and mainly your opinions on if I should start running SS-31with 40:45 Speaker 1: MOTS-1C? 40:47 Speaker 1: That's an easy 1. Should you do them when 40:50 Speaker 1: when you should do them? That's the question. That was a great 40:54 Speaker 0: This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doomscrolling? 40:59 Speaker 0: Smart move. Another smart move? Getting help from 1 of State Farm's 19,000 41:04 Speaker 0: local agents when you choose to bundle home and auto. Bundling, 41:07 Speaker 0: just another way save with the personal price plan. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. 41:19 Speaker 2: Actually, there was a price that's never been asked. Well, you know, I didn't know that 41:24 Speaker 2: the talk is 41:25 Speaker 2: has been dominated by SS-31first 41:28 Speaker 2: and then MOTS-six. 41:31 Speaker 1: Then It makes sense. So I always try to go to things because Will is the smarter of the 2. I'm the better looking. 41:37 Speaker 1: Just joking. 41:39 Speaker 1: That was pretty funny. I mean, the 1st part is true, but you can judge for yourselves people on the 2nd 1. We're both good. But no, anyways, but Will always comes with a more scientific 41:48 Speaker 1: way that I look at things is a little bit different than because I don't have his big brain, but what I do is I slow down and I think logically. 41:56 Speaker 1: That's 41:57 Speaker 1: what I do because you know, am not as smart as you. Like 42:00 Speaker 1: what I do is like, so 42:02 Speaker 1: the MOTS-1C like to answer that, it's smart. I don't run them separate. I run them at the same time because 42:08 Speaker 1: I just do a bunch in the morning and then like, you know, I do have them separated, but I'm not so strategic as this can be. So it's a great question because it made me think 42:17 Speaker 1: MOTS-3s gonna rev up your mitochondria. 42:19 Speaker 1: So if you take it in the morning, I know a lot of people that it gives energy to. Now, it does not give me energy. I don't know if my if my mitochondria is in well form and maybe that's why I don't feel it. You know, I've had conversations with some people 42:33 Speaker 1: and it's an interesting conversation. That would be a good podcast actually. But 42:38 Speaker 1: logically, 42:39 Speaker 1: let's play this out. Mitochondria, 42:41 Speaker 1: you're 42:42 Speaker 1: going, if you take the MOTS-1s, see, it's going to rev it up in the morning. So take it in the morning for sure. Right? So the SS-thirty 1 is going to repair the mitochondria. 42:50 Speaker 1: So now let's use logic again. So when it's being repaired, it slows down. 42:54 Speaker 1: So there are people that think that SS-thirty 1 helps with sleep. Again, I take it in the morning, so I don't know, but some people say that it does help with sleep. So if you look at it like that, because it's repairing the mitochondria, 43:07 Speaker 1: that makes sense. 43:08 Speaker 1: Personally, 43:09 Speaker 1: I don't separate them. I take them together in the same shot actually. 43:15 Speaker 1: But I get where you're going. I have not heard that out there in, out on the, in the, so I thought that was a great question. You maybe think about it. I'm like, wow, that's actually an interesting question. So that's how I answered it. Now I'm interested to see your thoughts because we didn't discuss this like we normally would. So that's how I answered it, thinking through it just logically. So let's see how- would say that 43:34 Speaker 2: I guess here's the real answer. I would not worry about which you should take 1st because I don't think you should take 1 1st or the other 1st. I think you should take both of them same time. Okay. 43:45 Speaker 2: Start them both at the same time. 43:48 Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I've just heard of more people starting the MOTS-1s): Just because 43:53 Speaker 2: it's, 43:54 Speaker 2: have heard of it more. 43:56 Speaker 2: Take that and then they go, Oh, we should have heard. But there's a lot of people that get lot of questions. Have you heard that? 44:01 Speaker 2: I've never. Yeah, they do. And it's it makes your mitochondria more efficient and rev 44:07 Speaker 2: it's the it kind of revs that that 44:10 Speaker 2: in so a cell mitochondria in there, right, gives more energy to that cell, 44:14 Speaker 2: which then it is producing ATP, which is our cellular energy. 44:19 Speaker 2: SS-thirty 44:20 Speaker 2: 1, 44:21 Speaker 2: its job is to improve the integrity 44:24 Speaker 2: of the cell wall. 44:26 Speaker 2: All right? So now when we have a bunch of energy and all that energy is made and like if that energy is made and it's revving in here, but it is able to leak out, okay, this is what like free radicals are. And 44:39 Speaker 2: it's a lot of wasted energy that we have just created, but for no good. And so, hey, potentially like maybe MOTS-3s doesn't give you energy, maybe because your cell wall, maybe it is already at kind of max capacity and doing well, but also maybe your cell wall integrity is not very good and all the energy it's making is just leaking out and going away. It's 44:58 Speaker 1: an interesting dig into. We should dig into that 1. Absolutely. Randy, write that down because that's 45:02 Speaker 2: good But the SS-thirty 1 is basically, it is harnessing all of that and now it can be actually 45:08 Speaker 2: put through the right electrical cord and into the right place in your body so your body can actually use it all. So I would 100% use them both at the same time. 45:17 Speaker 1: But logically, 45:19 Speaker 1: let's look at it for a 2nd if you look at it how they work a little bit separately. You could make that play 45:24 Speaker 1: because Monticello in my opinion should be taking the morning because it does give a lot of people energy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people, I've had a lot of people say, man, it's almost too much. Sure. You know I mean? But what 45:34 Speaker 2: play? Because, 45:36 Speaker 2: and I think he's talking about just take them not at the same 45:39 Speaker 2: minute, 45:40 Speaker 2: but running 45:41 Speaker 2: them like concurrently. 45:43 Speaker 2: Don't start 1. Hey, I'm gonna run this for 3 months, then I'm gonna add SS-thirty 45:48 Speaker 2: 1. 45:49 Speaker 2: Right? I think that's how I read it is. They were saying, take Oxytocin at night, and 45:53 Speaker 2: SS-thirty 1 at night. 45:56 Speaker 2: Dude, I don't think that matters 1 little bit. I'd take them in the morning. So would take them both in the morning and I would take them together. If you take them 1 in the morning and 1 in the night, go ahead. I don't think that there's much 46:07 Speaker 2: shit. Would take him the morning. 46:10 Speaker 1: Morning. I wouldn't take him in the night. But I think, like, Will and I will both agree when I say this because I know how he thinks. I've known him a long time. We're gonna say try them both. See what you do. Like, 46:35 Speaker 1: Like I ate this morning, which is so rare for me. Almost felt like I was cheating on myself because I 46:41 Speaker 1: don't eat on Tuesdays. I eat every until 2, 46:43 Speaker 1: minimum. But anyways, but my point is I'm trying something different. Try something different. Try them both. Logically, 46:49 Speaker 1: it makes some sense. And lastly, I think you talked about NAD. I love it. I use it as coffee. 46:54 Speaker 1: I generally have said it numerous times when I take it around too. 46:58 Speaker 1: I get super flushed when I take it, so I get red as hell. 47:02 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Yeah. Really? Every time. Yeah. People go, you're so tan. No. I just took NAD. 47:06 Speaker 1: Interesting. Because I get flushing mostly. The things Flushed that me. Damn. I get flushed, but in It's different, bro. I always do that. I know. You love it. I love it. I just I get super flushed immediately. 47:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's crazy. As far as that stack goes though, dude, the SS-31Mozzi 47:20 Speaker 2: NAD, I think you should leave that alone. I think do those 3 and 47:25 Speaker 2: run it, but do them consistently 47:28 Speaker 2: and do them for 3 months and then make a judgment. I think that's badass. It's all like, 47:34 Speaker 2: that's everything you really want for like mitochondrial health and internal energy. So 47:39 Speaker 2: run it and you be the experiment, don't adulterate that experiment, right? Don't add a bunch of other things in and now we don't really know what happened, right? So be consistent and run that stuff at good high doses. Make sure also the SS-thirty 1, I would do a very bare minimum of 5 mg a day. I know that gets expensive, but it 47:58 Speaker 2: is I mean, if you I've talked to lots of people like people like 5 mg is kind of lowest effective dose really. 48:04 Speaker 2: I know people are taking 10 mgs a day and 20 and saying, damn, that's where I really felt it. 48:10 Speaker 2: That's 48:11 Speaker 2: that gets expensive because they're usually in 30 mg, maybe even if I've seen some 50 mg bottles, but 48:17 Speaker 1: still have them. 48:19 Speaker 1: Still sitting on the fact of like 48:21 Speaker 1: podcast would be cool of like digging into, 48:25 Speaker 1: if you don't feel the MOTS-1h ms 48:30 Speaker 1: that would be a pullback here. Oh, shit. That would be a 48:34 Speaker 2: good question. We'll talk about that. I'm 48:37 Speaker 1: thinking about this and now I'm super intrigued because we want to geek out with this stuff because 48:41 Speaker 1: it's so like, think about it. Like, do you, if you have, if you're not feeling these things, does it mean it's a healthy mitochondria 48:49 Speaker 1: or does it mean like it's leaking out now? We use that for a 2nd, and I'm sorry, I'm going in left field, but I'm thinking through this, 48:55 Speaker 1: maybe 48:56 Speaker 1: if you left the MOTS-1s): In the sidelines for a 2nd, started with SS-31because 49:01 Speaker 1: it repairs the mitochondria. 49:03 Speaker 1: If we do dig into it and think that that's that if it's not repaired, if it's repaired, 49:08 Speaker 1: if it needs to be repaired 1st, 49:10 Speaker 2: That's a cool concept. It's kind of a chicken or egg, like right, but came 1st chicken or the egg. Yeah. But it would be fun to like dig into, like, and it might kind might into pieces like that. Yeah. Let's dig into that, bro. Maybe that's Because there's 2 ways, right? Well, is it that your engine ain't working very good or you're just not able to harness that energy energy. Same thing with testosterone. 49:29 Speaker 2: Like, is it that your body can't make great testosterone or can't keep it as free testosterone and actually use it or like T3, 49:36 Speaker 2: you know, T3, make basic people take T4. 49:40 Speaker 2: It converts them to T3 and now your body can use it. But 49:44 Speaker 2: a lot of times people have a ton of T4, their body just isn't able to convert it. 49:49 Speaker 2: So there's pointless to take more T4. Right. Right? Now you just need the real thing. But anyway, 49:55 Speaker 2: yeah, that's an interesting question. 49:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wasn't that cool? Let's dig in a little bit. Right. You 50:00 Speaker 2: just read that 1. 50:02 Speaker 2: So I'm up. Guys. I love the podcast. I'm 54, highly active my entire life. I've got a lot of nagging injuries. 50:09 Speaker 2: Join the club here. Yeah. I'm constantly working, around and through. Probably just your average listener. Most troubling at the moment is severe tendonitis in my elbow, but the shoulders, knees, lower back, and neck are very 50:21 Speaker 2: are never really happy either. 50:23 Speaker 2: I started the world reigning cycle about a week ago, laid it out to okay. Laid it out to be 1 mg BPC 50:31 Speaker 2: per day and 1 mg TB every other day. My supply 50:35 Speaker 2: would allow me to run that dose for 8 weeks. 50:38 Speaker 2: So should I increase the dose for a shorter cycle or stick with this dose for a full 8 weeks? 50:43 Speaker 2: 0.333 50:44 Speaker 2: option would be a moderate dose for 5 weeks and then hold on to some supply in case I need it this spring summer when my activity level increases dramatically. 50:53 Speaker 2: I'd love to go high dose than low dose maintenance forever, but between my limited budget and the pending legislation, 50:59 Speaker 2: I'm really worried this may not, may be my only shot and I don't want to mess it up. Thanks. So great question. Thought through articulate question, whoever you are, sir. That was great. What a, 51:09 Speaker 1: I like that. Great 51:11 Speaker 1: question. Now 51:12 Speaker 1: the Wolverine stacks, you know, it was a blend. So it looks, sounds like you're doing those separate. 51:18 Speaker 1: You do them separate, but I mean, the 51:23 Speaker 1: blend that comes in the bottle. It doesn't matter, but you're separating them, 3 which is great. So do you want me to start with It's 51:30 Speaker 1: a great question because it made me think, maybe think like, because I don't know, like I was thinking I'm always in a like, again, slow down, like what would I do? You know? And I'm like, okay, so I've 51:40 Speaker 1: had so much experience with healing injuries and I've done little bits and I've done lots of bits. So the lots of bits obviously help. So that's the thing with the obvious. 51:50 Speaker 1: If I had a budget and had a certain amount, I'm 51:53 Speaker 1: going to answer it like, I don't think you should really do less than a MEG. If you can do a MEG for 8 weeks, I would do that. I might even double it and do it for a month because tendinitis 52:05 Speaker 1: is pretty easy to fix. I've had it so many times. A lot of I've fixed it with just the BPC, 52:12 Speaker 1: you know? So you're running both of these. So I 52:15 Speaker 1: probably personally would probably 52:17 Speaker 1: even double that and go for a month. 52:20 Speaker 1: I could make a lot of different cases, but that's probably what I would do because I do have more experience 52:25 Speaker 1: mainly coming out of my back surgery and taking high doses of this and just seeing how freaking amazing 52:32 Speaker 1: high doses is, I was blown away by it. So that's probably now sitting today. If you asked me a few months ago, probably wouldn't have answered the same way, but I would probably even double that double down and just attack that sucker. I really think that it'll knock it out quick. What do you got, man? I'm into this thing. Probably different. This 52:50 Speaker 2: is a tough 1. I really, I am kind of conflicted because it all depends on how your progress is going. Like my guess is dude, if you do 1 mg plus 2 mg, you won't need to do it for 8 weeks. Yeah, agreed. I don't think, I bet that the tendonitis will be healed in 3 53:06 Speaker 2: to 4. As long as you're not- Maybe holding out the TB on it. Don't need TB- like 53:11 Speaker 2: TB, so I wouldn't do that. Tendonitis? Yeah, yeah, yes. Cause that's what is bringing the stem cells in and just like the work crew to tell it to really, really heal. BPC 53:21 Speaker 2: is absolutely going there, is bringing more collagen, but but 53:24 Speaker 2: the TB-five hundred is really telling it to heal. What you want to do, the important part I guess is physically what you do. So tendonitis is just over is like chronic inflammation, your tendon, 53:37 Speaker 2: long and the whole goal is to keep that inflammation down. 53:40 Speaker 2: Now 53:41 Speaker 2: not doing anything, right? If you just rest and don't do anything, right? 53:46 Speaker 2: That's great. You're not going to inflame it, but it's not going to heal that fast. Okay? You need a little bit of blood flow in there to 53:54 Speaker 2: promote healing. So, but you also don't want to do anything that just 53:58 Speaker 2: zaps you with pain. Okay, that's a bad thing. So basically 54:03 Speaker 2: what you need to be doing is lifting lightweight and maybe going slow if you required to or whatever your job is. You want it to maybe feel this like dull 54:12 Speaker 2: burn, 54:13 Speaker 2: that's good, that means blood's getting there, but no sharp zapping pain. And don't also don't just do nothing because it'll take a long time to heal. K? So 54:23 Speaker 2: try not just reaggravate it the whole damn time. 54:25 Speaker 2: I would say though, bro, I would honestly say I'd rather just make sure it's healed. So frankly, my answer would be a loading phase. I'd probably go 2 megs a day plus 4 megs a day, 54:39 Speaker 2: for 2 weeks. 54:41 Speaker 2: Then I would go to 1 meg plus 2 megs that you're doing 54:46 Speaker 2: until it's healed. 54:47 Speaker 2: And I bet it gets healed before the, you 54:50 Speaker 2: know, I don't know what is a 6 weeks or something like that. 54:54 Speaker 2: Don't worry 54:56 Speaker 2: legislation. 54:57 Speaker 2: You talk to us, we'll be all right. We will be all right and we will be able to, you'll be able to get peptides 55:04 Speaker 2: not at super high prices. Okay? 55:07 Speaker 2: So 55:08 Speaker 2: don't worry about that 1. If you talk to us, we can help you out with that. 55:12 Speaker 1: Whatever you do, whatever you choose, his way, my way, your way, whatever way, let us know how it goes. Yeah, absolutely. I'm curious to 55:20 Speaker 1: see what you choose and how it heals. Tinnitus is fairly easy with my experience that I think that you'll be all right. You'll be able to inject really, really, 55:28 Speaker 1: really, really bad once I've had it. 55:30 Speaker 2: I've had it really bad and this has healed 55:32 Speaker 2: has healed me, didn't it? But I couldn't even like dry off with a towel. I get out of the shower and just pushing against my skin with the towel just killed me both sides. Great question That was a good question. But also inject it right at the spot. Wow. Do all of the injections just right there. You basically just want to make it triangle around 55:49 Speaker 2: the entry 55:50 Speaker 2: and every day just alternate. Yeah. 55:53 Speaker 1: Alright. Would you ever do Clo 55:55 Speaker 1: an additional BPC to help reduce inflammation in back due to bulging disc. How much or 56:02 Speaker 1: other recommendations? 56:03 Speaker 1: I apologize, take it just because everybody knows I've had a surgery. 56:06 Speaker 1: And here's 56:09 Speaker 1: the thing. 56:10 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter my experience with bulging disc, what you do. I tried, 56:15 Speaker 1: I tried and tried and tried and tried and tried to blast it with heavy doses of, 56:21 Speaker 1: all of them, the above, any healer peptide, 56:23 Speaker 1: glow, glow, BPC, TB, all of the above. 56:27 Speaker 1: When that disc is bulging, it is either in my opinion, you can do like physical therapy and all that stuff. My opinion is get the surgery and get out of pain because if you have pain like me, it sucks. It controlled my life. I was still working, but as Will, man, I was not myself. I was, it sucked. 56:44 Speaker 1: So that's my answer. Would I run Clo an extra BPC for other injuries? Absolutely. I think BPC is freaking amazing. You you're just adding into it, know? Clo's great, you know? But yeah, you can, but for a disc brother or sister, 57:00 Speaker 1: unfortunately these peptides are great, but they will not heal a disc problem. That is a problem that needs to be fixed in my opinion by surgery. Yep. Yep. We've both had that. I've had a double discectomy. I've had 2 bulging discs in my 57:14 Speaker 2: side nerve hurt like a mother. Okay. I had to have, like, 2 epidurals put in me. Brutal. And that that didn't even do anything, and I just had to have the surgery. So everything he's it's a structural 57:24 Speaker 2: issue. Like Problem. The peptides aren't going to put the damn disc back. The disc needs to go back. Yeah. 57:30 Speaker 2: Or be cut out to that. They're really good. Those surgeries are not They are good at the surgeries. Way better. Especially, if it's just 1 and it's early, 57:38 Speaker 1: they can do that and you'll be like feeling good in a couple weeks. And if you were in Orange County area, I'm going to let you know my doctor that I went to for my surgery, he's freaking top notch, dude. So if you follow us on any channels, just let us know who you are. And if you're in the area or you just happen to want to come out for the surgery for him, 57:57 Speaker 2: let me know. We'll get you his name. Yep. Cool. Alright. Who's that? I am curious if there are any peptides that might help with vitiligo. 58:04 Speaker 2: So I happen to know this 1 very well. So absolutely. 58:07 Speaker 2: And I have 58:08 Speaker 2: given this to friends and 58:10 Speaker 2: it has worked and healed their vitiligo. I'm not saying it's gonna help with you, but it is what it is. So vitiligo is like this is the skin pigmentation 58:19 Speaker 2: issue. It's not psoriasis, 58:21 Speaker 2: which is like dry skin, but if we've seen Michael 58:25 Speaker 2: Jackson, right? 58:26 Speaker 2: Yes, sure. 58:27 Speaker 2: If that's what it looks like. I don't know really. He didn't touch a weird shit. 58:32 Speaker 2: I don't even, there was also rumors that he was like dying. But 58:37 Speaker 2: I think he was like, I don't know. People say he was dying his skin white, so we don't know. He was a little peculiar. But 58:44 Speaker 2: so 58:45 Speaker 2: here 58:46 Speaker 2: are some good ones. So thymosin, because it's usually, it's an autoimmune 58:50 Speaker 2: disorder, right? So thymosin 58:53 Speaker 2: alpha, 58:56 Speaker 2: although in 1, the 1 caveat to that is like, they do say with Thymosin Alpha, if you take that during an outbreak, it actually could enhance that unfortunate autoimmune disorder. Otherwise it does have a calming effect, but BPC-one 59:08 Speaker 2: 157. Alright, that one's huge. I would a 100% do that. 59:12 Speaker 2: That is basically having your body 59:15 Speaker 2: take more collagen in, okay, absorb more collagen, convert the food that you eat into more collagen and a signaling peptide to tell that collagen where to go. 59:23 Speaker 2: Hence, 59:24 Speaker 2: GHK- 59:25 Speaker 2: Right? That is telling your, like, skin, which is the problem to have more collagen. It will regenerate that skin better and make it more healthy. Melanotan 59:34 Speaker 2: 1. 59:35 Speaker 2: Yep. Right? 59:36 Speaker 2: And 59:37 Speaker 2: KPV, 59:38 Speaker 2: KPV is a gut and man, our gut brain access, right? And that's our gut is, if that gut is healthy, that is autoimmune calming. 59:47 Speaker 2: And 59:48 Speaker 2: I think that that is those I would, 59:51 Speaker 2: that's great. 1:00:07 Speaker 1: Follicular stuff in my head, dude, and it sucks. 1:00:10 Speaker 1: I 1:00:11 Speaker 1: am going to tell you that I love Thymosin Alpha-one up 1:00:14 Speaker 1: there. I'm surprised I didn't put it in my top 5. 1:00:17 Speaker 1: But 1:00:18 Speaker 1: I really actually with my experience and like me 1:00:21 Speaker 1: using it so often, 1:00:23 Speaker 1: do think when I have a flare up of my head, which I do now, Doctor. 1:00:27 Speaker 1: Gets steroids injected in my head, 1:00:30 Speaker 1: that, that enhances it because I have been taking it and 1:00:35 Speaker 1: stupidly, have been taking it and I caught up to it as you asked your question that I should be not taking it because I do think it does that. Now, Thymosin Alpha is great. It brings down inflammation. It's good for autoimmune issues, but sometimes if you have an outbreak, as Will said, it enhances it. I'm living experience of it. I don't know for a fact, but I know, I think that's the case. 1:00:55 Speaker 1: But it does enhance your immunity if it needs to. If you have an overactive, it can bring it down. Like logically, 1:01:03 Speaker 1: that would probably be the best, 1:01:06 Speaker 1: but experience says, 1:01:08 Speaker 1: I don't know if that may be helpful, but I 1:01:11 Speaker 2: think that BPC-1KPV, 1:01:15 Speaker 2: you cannot go wrong. Them out, Jay. Good shot. Yeah. Good stuff for the show. Do that, attack it, attack it hard. 1:01:23 Speaker 1: Taking us home today? Yeah. 1:01:25 Speaker 1: Hi guys. I love the podcast. I'm 28, very active. Ex gymnast, now LIF run Pilates, a nurse 1:01:33 Speaker 1: and generally healthy, but I have old knees and shoulder injuries and flare up from time to time. I recently started the Wolverine Blend Cycle, 400 micrograms of BPC-157 1:01:45 Speaker 1: and 400 micrograms 1:01:47 Speaker 1: of TB-five hundred per day. I'm wondering 1:01:50 Speaker 1: what the minimum effective dose is. I think that's low. How long I should run it and dosing should differ from new versus old injury. Another great question. How many consecutive days can it be taken forever? 1:02:06 Speaker 1: How long should breaks be and how should I manage multiple injection sites of treating severe injuries? 1:02:12 Speaker 1: Also, 1:02:14 Speaker 1: any thoughts on peptides for sleep, immunity, 1:02:17 Speaker 1: support, 1:02:17 Speaker 1: or general recovery of well-being? And if on a budget, which 1 to 2 peptides are most worth it? Lastly, 1:02:26 Speaker 1: I'd love your thoughts on GLO- with a G blend and how GHK- 1:02:31 Speaker 1: can take alongside Wolverine. 1:02:34 Speaker 1: I also take the following daily and would love your opinion on whether they're worth it. If 1:02:40 Speaker 1: anything should be swapped, ideally dosing magnesium complex, multivitamin, 1:02:45 Speaker 1: omega-3s, 1:02:46 Speaker 1: ashwagandha, 1:02:48 Speaker 1: vitamin D, K2, creatine, 1:02:50 Speaker 1: switching to HCL, 1:02:52 Speaker 1: lion's mane, 1:02:53 Speaker 1: Cordyceps, 1:02:55 Speaker 1: L glutamine and cranberry extract. Thanks so much. I learned a lot from the Q and A. Awesome. Let's ride. Do you want to take that? When you start it? Yeah, 1:03:02 Speaker 2: sure. I'll take it. So minimum effective dose of BPC and TB-five hundred. The minimum effective dose is 500 micrograms. 1:03:12 Speaker 2: I'd prefer you do- Minimum. Minimum. 1:03:15 Speaker 2: Minimum. So, 1:03:17 Speaker 2: but frankly, I mean, I guess I would prefer that you do 1000 micrograms, right? 1 mg 1:03:25 Speaker 2: and daily. Okay. 1:03:27 Speaker 2: So there's that answer. How long can you take it? Like it is not harmful for you to take it forever. 1:03:33 Speaker 2: I will. But 1:03:35 Speaker 2: would, your body does kind of get used to it and it stops being as effective. So I would maybe go in, 1:03:41 Speaker 2: especially 1:03:42 Speaker 2: with just the BPC-2B 1:03:44 Speaker 2: blend, right? I'd say like hard, like 60 day, 1:03:47 Speaker 2: 2 month spurts, 1:03:49 Speaker 2: get it to rest a week, 2 rest, 2 weeks, and then if injury isn't healed, get back after it. 1:03:57 Speaker 2: Although that that being said, you know, I've kind of 1:04:01 Speaker 2: I do a pretty high dose Monday, Wednesday, Friday pretty damn consistently and have been going for 3 months now. Yeah. Cool. I may stop for a week and then start again. So that's not that big of a deal, 1:04:12 Speaker 2: for that stop. 1:04:13 Speaker 2: K. 1:04:14 Speaker 2: Then 1:04:15 Speaker 2: breaks, there we go. I I answered that 1. 1:04:19 Speaker 2: G the glow, so GHKCU, 1:04:21 Speaker 2: the basic 1:04:22 Speaker 2: kind of dose 1:04:23 Speaker 2: that we wanna tell people is 2.5 mg 1:04:27 Speaker 2: daily. 1:04:28 Speaker 2: I know people taking, you know, 3.5 1:04:31 Speaker 2: mg daily. I don't know. I wouldn't go any more than that because there is such a thing with taking too much GHKCu. 1:04:37 Speaker 2: Too much copper in you is not a good thing. Glow, so here's here's, some math for you. If you take the Glow blend, which customarily 1:04:46 Speaker 2: everywhere I've ever seen it is 10 mg of BPC, 1:04:51 Speaker 2: 10 mg of TB-five hundred, 1:04:54 Speaker 2: and 50 1:04:55 Speaker 2: mg of GHK Cu. All right? 1:04:58 Speaker 2: If you add 2 MLs of backwater, 1:05:01 Speaker 2: alright, add 2 mls of backwater that will give you 1:05:08 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1:05:09 Speaker 2: Then you draw 10 units. Okay? That'll give you 0.5 a milligram of BPC, 0.5 mg TB-five hundred, and 2.5 mg of GHK-two. 1:05:19 Speaker 2: Well said, that was good. There's math for you. That's why I was good at that stuff. I guess, 1:05:25 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I take it back just 3.5 1:05:28 Speaker 2: mg GHK-three daily just for long 1:05:31 Speaker 2: that's for daily long term. That's maybe what I'd max out at. If you're doing 3 days a week, you can do more GHKCU 1:05:37 Speaker 2: than that. Like, I wouldn't be scared to do to do in what that math I just told you to inject 20 units 3 days a week, which gives you 5 mg of GHKCU 1:05:46 Speaker 2: in injection. 1:05:48 Speaker 2: But, you know, 60 day and then take a week break and maybe kind of after a little while switch to just the Wolverine blend and then add GHKCU 1:05:56 Speaker 2: back in. Yeah. 1:05:58 Speaker 2: All these other I mean, I, unfortunately, 1:06:02 Speaker 2: oh, I don't really wanna hit on all of those. L glutamine is awesome. Right? I would switch to HCL creatine for sure. We've talked about that. Right? Just kind of bypasses your liver. You don't get as much water retention. You take, 1:06:14 Speaker 2: I don't know, 0.75 as little of the dose and it's just as effective. And 1:06:20 Speaker 1: 1 other question, go ahead. That's great. I think that you kind of nailed it. I'd kind of like answer my question. So you did great. Way that you that's why Will knows, he knows this guy, man knows his dosages, that's for sure. 1:06:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like to keep the JHKC separate. I mean, even though I take so much of the BPC and the TB, I do them in my shoulder, shoulder and my back pretty much every day because 1:06:41 Speaker 1: I have really got shoulders Again, I lift weights every day, 6 days a week minimum. And I have had back surgery, so I'm just trying to stay ahead of the curve. Like Will said, I used to get tendonitis all the time and I haven't got it for a long time. I'm assuming it's because I take these. 1:06:56 Speaker 1: The GHK-3s): 1:06:57 Speaker 1: I take it night. I do it from skin, hair, nails and 1:07:01 Speaker 1: wrinkles, 1:07:02 Speaker 1: collagen production. It freaking is a rat for old dudes like us. It's 1:07:07 Speaker 1: amazing. So you would love it. I keep them separate personally. So yeah, so I think you answered and then like I'm a carnivore, 1:07:15 Speaker 1: know, I don't take any of that other stuff. I think I get it all from the meat through my readings and my understanding of that. So I don't take any of that stuff 1:07:24 Speaker 1: except for the HCL creatine. And I think everybody should take that. I even have my wife on it. So monohydrate 1:07:30 Speaker 1: bloats you. It's funny. Well, we'll end on this because I know we're going long. Social 1:07:34 Speaker 1: media is funny. I even put out a post on monohydrate and HCL and how monohydrate bloats me and I got attacked for that. No, it doesn't. Geez, bro, like, can you not scroll past the freaking post, man, without yelling at me? It's just my opinion. Especially if say monohydrate then 1:07:49 Speaker 2: go ahead. I don't care. Especially if you say monohydrate bloats me. They say, no, no, no, it does. I'm like, you mean just said me. Yeah. 1:07:56 Speaker 1: But that's what's funny about this. Yeah. That was great, man. I think I like it better like that. I think that was Will's call to do it that way. I think it's more organic. We don't, I think when we talk through it 1st, we 1:08:08 Speaker 1: do kind of piggyback on like, because we love talking about that stuff. That was fun. I enjoyed it. Think. Great questions. Those 1:08:15 Speaker 2: good questions. Are 1:08:17 Speaker 1: Those 1:08:18 Speaker 1: are good So 1:08:20 Speaker 1: we have Doctor. Scott coming on for the podcast. 1:08:23 Speaker 1: He comes to record. We usually record for the Peptide of the Week on Friday, but we're going do it because he's off work on Thursday and he will be our 1st in house guest live. We're excited. We got to see how we're going to set it up, but, he is a good friend of ours. Good friend of the show, good friend of us, in general. And he knows a lot, probably 1 of the smartest guys I've known and known most of my life. So we are going to talk about testosterone replacement. We're going to be talking about 1:08:49 Speaker 1: testosterone and different esters. I know this dude right here knows his esters really well. So we're going to dig into some of that. And Scott, Doctor. Scott is amazing with blood work. So I do want to touch a little bit on blood work because he's the only man that I trust with my blood work instead of a typical, MD. So that's come in, it'll drop on Monday. Anything else? Take us out. No, dude. Awesome questions. 1:09:12 Speaker 1: We enjoyed that guys. That was great. We appreciate everybody who watches and I hope you, hope we do a good job. Yeah. Show's growing, so we appreciate it. We appreciate the support. We love you guys. We are out of here. Yep. Thank you to everybody who made it possible. 1:09:25 Speaker 2: All our sponsors, 1:09:26 Speaker 2: loved ones. 1:09:29 Speaker 1: All right.