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0:46Speaker 1I got to tell you, I got to tell you, this is a lot getting on. Like it's taken us about an hour and 0.5 to get these mics set up, to get these things going, but it's worth it. It's worth it.
0:59Speaker 2people can't see Brandy behind the way there. No. Thank God for Brandy. Yeah. Shout out to Brandy. There's a lot of setup that requires, but like the point of this is we only have to do that soon. We should just sit down and push
1:21Speaker 1we always like these. We always get to touch people. It's cool. We had some guys come in, you were gone. They
1:37Speaker 2I was gone. I will say to everybody, have the Seahawk shirt on. And the Seahawk's helmet if if this camera can see it. But, yes, I went to the playoff game, to the Seahawks playoff game in Seattle against the 49ers,
2:03Speaker 2went to flew to Seattle and went to the playoff game. Was awesome, dude. I gotta say the fans,
2:10Speaker 2They did a damn good job of cheering for the team. It's a small city, right, and so they didn't I guess there's not as much to Yeah.
2:18Speaker 2Root for. Yeah. But it was a great game. We stomped the hell out of the Niners, that was great. Sorry, everybody's 40 Niners fans. My
2:38Speaker 2he's a Niners fan. And I gotta say, man, the balls on that kid, like good for him. Dude, I gotta give him a shout out. So he was just decked out in Niners stuff. Right? Everybody,
2:47Speaker 2and there wasn't a good Niners turnout. Sorry, the Seattle fans bought it all. They were giving him shit. Now people in Seattle are, like, uber polite.
2:55Speaker 2Yeah. Really? So their heckling isn't mean. It's not like going to, a Niners and Oakland Raiders game, you know, in the big area where they, will stab you. But they will,
3:04Speaker 2but they still you know, he's 9 years old. So he's 9. He doesn't take well when he shows up and
3:11Speaker 2hey man, you're wearing the wrong stuff. Like, oh, you're not gonna lose today. Right? Yeah. Like he was verge of tears the whole game. But like he would go into the bathroom and people would like, Nayers suck. And he would yell back at them, Seahawks suck. That's good. Surrounded by everybody.
3:28Speaker 2And all the people next to us, we sat in like the season ticket holders spot. So we were it was nice seats. We were like maybe 10 rows up from the field. Right. And after
3:37Speaker 2the game, all the people sitting by us were like, kind of grabbed him. Like, hey, kid, you did a really good job, dude. Like, you you got some balls for just That's right. Hanging in there,
3:46Speaker 2dealing with it, keeping all your stuff on, keep rooting for your team. They're like, dude, my son's 12 and he would have been crying
3:52Speaker 2at the beginning and told me, dad, why would you take me here? Yeah. Tell everybody not like me and me to be rooting against everybody else. So Have fun. Good job. Good job. And it was it was a blast.
4:11Speaker 2but it wasn't that bad. I think I'm like a little sick, so I'd just take some Thymosin Alpha and it'll be good. I was gonna say that. Was gonna put you on blast.
4:19Speaker 1My buddy, who's 1 the smartest of my friends that I know, and he knows more about supplements than anybody I know, for you know, where it's like, Bro, why did you not even fly and not take Thymosin Alpha, dude? No. I was just telling him. My father-in-law came in today and I'm like, don't ever fly without taking Thymosin Alpha- I just had too many things on my plate to deal. Like, it's like herding cats with my mother who's 80 years old. Right? And then,
4:58Speaker 2we walk in and I, like, out loud, we both like, what the hell? Oh, yeah. There's, like, men and women in the same bathroom. That is crazy. And then I'm like, what? And the guy behind me is like, yep, welcome to Seattle. There's a sign that says, like, multi gender bathroom. Weird. It's weird. Weird. I didn't know that
5:22Speaker 2talk about like, have a private talk or, like, girls wanna go look at their makeup or you take your girlfriend there and I go, and you need to poop or something. Just get in the stall right next to me. Is that the only bathroom they had? Yeah.
5:49Speaker 1stayed at a nice hotel and it was good, but like, ain't nothing like me at home. No, it's not. When we were home, we were both like, God, I love you.
5:55Speaker 2You Yeah. Know mean? So I'm here, go Seahawks and we got next week, we're playing the Rams. And
6:08Speaker 2Probably just be like, those tickets are expensive. Mean, these tickets were expensive. Yeah. We'll
6:15Speaker 1Maybe. And like, I'm not such a diehard fan. Like, I'm not gonna lose sleep over the sea. I was losing, you know? But it's kind of fun to It's your town. It's my town. I'll do it for him. Yeah. Love it. Well, cool man. Good stuff. Good things. Well, let's you kick us off because you always do and you can't see at home guys, but we have them up on our screen here instead of our laptops like usual. Why don't you kick us off, dude? All right. So number 1. Well,
6:46Speaker 2Hello, sir. Big fan of the show. I'm 51 years old, 51 year old male. I started my peptide journey on 05/02/2025.
7:05Speaker 2which I reconstitute with 2 MLs of backwater and use 5 mgs a week. Since then, I started with Thymosin Alpha-1Mg
7:27Speaker 2that's a tiny dose. My question is, can I add all these to 1 sterile vial and inject together?
7:34Speaker 2Are these best to keep separate and inject individually? I want to keep the Retta separate. Love your podcast.
7:39Speaker 1I've listened to every episode at least twice. Keep doing what you guys do. Good stuff. Thank you. Good stuff. Yeah. So you want me to jump on this 1? Yeah, go ahead. Cause yeah. Cause I think we at 1st, we were kind of looking at it differently, but I think what you're asking is what I do, because I've done numerous posts. So I'm assuming that's what you're talking about. So what I do, for example, I have 5 peptides.
8:00Speaker 1I will take, I do the math for when I put in the water to be able to do 10 units on each of them so that I don't have to remember the dosages because, and then look, so I take 10 units of each 1 in the sterile vial,
8:16Speaker 15, and then I take 1 shot. So instead of 5 shots, I take 1 shot. Now I would not mix the Glutathione,
8:37Speaker 1because I didn't want to mix those. Now I'm even sick of that. I just put them all in the vial. I'm pretty confident they work
8:48Speaker 1that's what I do. The only thing 1 I would do separate, it would definitely be the glutathione because even though it's not oil,
8:56Speaker 1it's not the same. So, and that 1 stings a little bit, so you want to do that 1 separate. But the other ones, my answer is absolutely,
9:24Speaker 2differently, which is not the most efficient way to do it. You know, I'll take the same
9:29Speaker 2needle, right, inject, pull out my how much I need to pull out my how much I need to pull out how much, and then fill that syringe out and then do it all at once. The problem there is now that syringe has been has touched a rubber
9:40Speaker 25 times and is ultra dull. By the time that I try to inject it through my skin, it doesn't feel great. So if you were to do that, draw a squirt, draw a squirt, then grab a brand new 1 to just draw it all up,
9:56Speaker 2I know that there are certain peptides, like if you were to do that and then as soon as I like to pull HGH,
10:06Speaker 2So bad sign. Basically don't do that with HGH. So essentially if you're pulling all those and the solution still is perfectly clear,
10:25Speaker 1Needs to be done separately. We had talked about this because I have done numerous posts on this exact thing on reels on my personal channel. I think I've even put it on the Warrior Your channel as well, but I get nailed on people. That's going to mess up the pH balance, all this stuff, whatever. Everybody's a
10:41Speaker 1specialist, blah, blah, blah. But we do know some high people in some high places that are a lot smarter than us and the talk at all the peptide stuff.
10:50Speaker 1I made a call because I was actually curious. I'd straight up asked 1 of my good buddies and he said, if it does mess up any type of pH balance or any type of throws any of them off, it's such a fractional amount that don't even worry about it. So I respect him. He knows
11:07Speaker 1what he's talking about. So I'm going to listen to him over some dude on social media. So there you go. There's his answer. And I have a little side note. I didn't bring a mixing jar when I went to the hotel this weekend. And I thought of you because I did it that way. The other thing is too, I did some 5Amino
11:28Speaker 1Just doing like 10 units in the same bottle, you're not mixing them at all either. Dolling the needle sucks too, but a little bit gets in there. Little bit and you know it because everyone had a little orange.
11:47Speaker 1AOD-9604. I'm starting my BOLT now and currently running a low dose of Retta at 2 mg per week,
12:00Speaker 1a day. So far it's been solid. Appetite is there and I'm able to stay in a surplus and
12:14Speaker 2I think your microphone's about to break. So I will take that as that technical difficulties get worked out. But dude, yes, you can. Absolutely.
12:23Speaker 2You can fix, you can use those, you can bulk. The problem is, so basically AOD and speeding up your metabolism is going to help burn fat.
12:51Speaker 2totally doable. The problem is if you're bulking and you want to eat a lot of food and you want to eat bigger portions,
13:04Speaker 2using red to lose weight, right, they're trying not to eat as much and then obviously they're going to be at a calorie, they're usually at a calorie deficit.
13:19Speaker 2Calories in need to be greater than calories out. So you totally can because they're not they are not just like actively
13:26Speaker 2eating your muscle away. They are targeting fat, both of them. If you can manage to eat enough food
13:34Speaker 2all the time, absolutely. You can gain plenty of muscle and burn fat, especially while enhanced, meaning you're on test.
13:48Speaker 1love, I love, you know, rich piano's quote. I just love it because I just miss the guy. I loved watching this stuff. Want to get big, you got to eat big. And that's the truth. So how do you bulk? Got to eat. So I know we've thrown this out numerous times. You can throw an MK-six 77 on there. We've talked about it numerous time with a Retatrutide because they do offset each other. Well, I speak with experience.
14:11Speaker 1as much as when I ran it with Retatrutide. I don't know if it's coincidence or what, but I did it at the end of last year and man was I freaking hungry. Oh my gosh. So, and I was taking Retatrutide as well. So that will help. Or you just have to eat long past being satiated because Retrutide is going to make you get full quick.
14:30Speaker 1Just eat past your full. I do that now. Like I'm taking Retrutide now because I do it because it keeps you lean in hell and burns fat. So I take it and I eat past
14:40Speaker 1being full every day. So that's what I do. So you can do it. I do it. You can do it. There you go. Okay.
14:54Speaker 2I know she needs to get her hormones in check, and I finally got her to schedule an appointment. Got
15:00Speaker 2her to schedule an appointment for her, but I know peptides could help a lot. Thanks for any advice.
15:30Speaker 2develop a little allergic reaction because it's not, the CJC is pretty dang strong and it gives you a little bit more of a sustained growth hormone release instead of pulsatile like our body naturally does. And our body recognizes CJC as foreign
15:46Speaker 2and it builds histamine and it produces histamines to get rid of it, and that's what we see as an allergic reaction. Okay.
15:54Speaker 2If you take KPV with that, it should kill that allergic reaction and you'd be good. But Tesamorelin,
16:04Speaker 2very, very close to our natural growth hormone pulses. So I'd probably recommend that dosages.
16:12Speaker 2Osteoporosis is basically is our bones getting more brittle as we get older, right? Well, if she has osteoporosis,
16:19Speaker 2my guess either that or some condition that's causing it, but either way, Tesla, Ipah, I'd start her off at a lower dose. Would say, I mean, if you have a 5 mg Tesla plus 5 mg Ipah, okay, that's 1 bottle, it's a blend.
16:44Speaker 2after that's okay, you can bump that to 10 units daily. That 1st 1 will give her $22.50
16:50Speaker 2micrograms of each. Okay? It's pretty low dose for like a grown ass male. I would take 1000 micrograms of each. Oh yeah. But for her, maybe 2 50 started there. She goes up to 5. The next thing would be up to 500.
17:08Speaker 2bed. Yeah. Do it at night. Do it at night. That's before our biggest growth hormone pulse. It will really amplify that 1. Well, the Ipamorelin absolutely will. That's the 1 that, well, we have this big pulse there because our body's not stressed out. It's not doing anything else and it really works at that point. Yeah. And 7 days a week. There's no, none of this like 5 day on, 2 day off. I don't think it's just to save money. Just do it 7 days a week. And I would, for her, I would go 12 to 16 weeks. Yeah. If she starts to retain a little bit of water, you know your dose is a little bit high, back it down and titrate slower up.
17:54Speaker 11 IU would do great in the morning with the Tessa Ipu at night. I think those 3 is what I would give my mom.
18:02Speaker 1So I think if you add those 3, she'll do great. Yes, absolutely. All of those are good. Yep. I think that she'll do great. All right.
18:19Speaker 1We're having some couple of things. We were just meeting on that this morning. We're having some different sweatshirts,
18:24Speaker 1talking about some different shirts and whatnot. I think we're just going stick with the black shirts,
18:30Speaker 2Maybe we'll throw some tank tops. Summer is going to be coming soon. I'm a tank top guy. Well, it a tank top guy. So maybe we will do that. Yeah, here's the deal. We actually ordered cutoffs before. We have a whole bunch of cutoff shirts, right? And for some reason they decided to not be on regular shirt length and they go down to like straight, you know, sleeve cutoffs, not true tanks, but
18:59Speaker 2Like I have a belly shirt on, so it's weird. Yeah. I don't know why they choose to make shirts that do that. And they didn't get these well. They're like right here.
19:07Speaker 2Gotta cut them right. We just gotta get the right ones. Does anybody have any suggestions on brands?
19:18Speaker 1But tank tops, we still got to figure out the right brand to buy. Yeah, we'll never talk. We're go tank top brand. I don't remember, but I have a tank top brand that I wear. They're just plain tank tops and every time I wear them, everybody asks what they are. And they fit good. So we're working on it. We're working on it. All right. You want me to this 1 again? Okay. So you guys love the podcast. I'm 45 year old male in San Diego. Nice. I'm 6 foot 2 20 pounds in good health and in good shape. I work out 5 to 6 days a week and have my diet dialed in about 81.8%
19:53Speaker 1About 13 years ago, I found out I have a small benign tumor in my spinal cord. I run some peptides such as Retrutide,
20:14Speaker 1I will save the BPC and TB in case I get an injury. What are your thoughts on the tumor growth, risk,
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20:52Speaker 2I will start, and I'm pretty sure we're gonna be on the same page. Like, well, I don't know. As far as this goes, if me if I'm trying to recommend something to you,
21:08Speaker 2I would on the side of caution. I mean, even MOTS-1C and NAD are gonna really help like cells replicate and better cell health, right? And that,
21:28Speaker 2that's not a good thing to have. I mean, that tumor is gone and then you're in absolute remission. So that's what I have to say is not a not want to be responsible at all for you.
21:56Speaker 2and AOD-nine thousand 604 at the same time, or would they be cycled at a different time? Love y'all stay blessed. I'll run this 1. Absolutely.
22:07Speaker 1Yeah, they run great together. So the AOD is not going to increase any type of IGF-one.
22:12Speaker 1So they are running different, but the AOD is just going to burn fat. It's just going to burn fat.
22:19Speaker 1going to be, you're to take that to bed, hopefully if you're not, do that. And, it's going help your body to increase its own human growth hormone. So should you run those 2 together? Yeah, I can. I'm going to see contingent upon how old you are. If you're over 40, I would definitely, I just recommend the HGH man. I'm a big fan of it. I think an HGH in the morning and a secretagogue at night, they are wonderful.
22:43Speaker 1I know that with a lot of experience and I am a huge, huge, huge, huge fan of AOD-nine thousand 604.
22:49Speaker 1I don't even know. I think it's up in my top 3. So it's 1 of, it's definitely that good in my opinion because all its job is to do is to burn fat.
23:03Speaker 2So should you take them? Easy answer. Absolutely. Yeah. And there is no crossover. There's no crossover between like the CJC IP or Tesla IPA, right? Those are boosting your natural, like growth hormone. AOD,
23:49Speaker 2send you a DM if we have your information or please send us a DM asking us that question and we will, we'll point you on
23:57Speaker 1where to get really good effective ones. Warrior makers, you have JD fit, you have our podcasts.
24:03Speaker 1We check them on the podcast, not as much, but the warrior and the JD fit, those DMS are answered constantly.
24:16Speaker 1Every time I inject MOTS-1C, I get a wicked big red welt that lasts for days or days. Well, For that reason, I'm using 5 mg,
24:33Speaker 1Any thoughts and suggestions that might help with this? Thanks for all you do. So grateful for you guys and your team.
24:56Speaker 1flush as hell. Like I used to take it before podcasts because it does give me energy, but then I get too red and I don't like being a little cherry. So if you ever look back to some old podcasts and I look red, I just took some NAD. So there you go. So not everybody's like that. So my point is I had not heard of anybody having a big welt for days.
25:16Speaker 1I would say, who's your provider? If it's somebody that you trust, you might just be sensitive. You might have sensitive skin. You have pale people. They go to the sun for 5 minutes, they're sunburnt.
25:31Speaker 1I think you know this, but let's talk about it. It stings like a son of a bitch. Now my partner,
25:38Speaker 1my partner, I didn't, I gave you credit today. I did a post about that and he's created a
25:44Speaker 1water that you can use that will definitely, it does take away the sting. It's been tried and tested. So
25:50Speaker 1you can DM us if you have some questions on that. I want to try that. That might help cause GHK-1CU
25:57Speaker 1stings like a bitch. I take it at night and I take it here in my thigh and not every night, but a lot of nights as I'm walking up the stairs, it's like, I have a big,
26:07Speaker 1welt on my leg for about an hour, but it's only an hour and it goes away fairly quickly.
26:20Speaker 1But that's my situation, man. I think it's just the fact that the copper is just doing that to you and it does it to a lot of people. In regards to the MOTS-3C, the only outlier here is the fact that you're saying it does it for days. Have you heard for days? No, but I do know that, so, our friend Paul is allergic to MOTS-3C. Same thing like some people get easily
26:38Speaker 2easier allergic to CJC. So, he can't take MOTS-seven and will 1st sign of allergic reaction is kind of if it's a bigger welt. Now, it's other things that will create the welt, you know, if you don't inject it deep enough, if you're actually putting it into your dermis skin layer,
27:20Speaker 1fix the problem. If it's an allergic reaction, it'll fix the problem. Yeah, we were just talking oddly, we're going to probably do for the peptide of the week, think we're going do IGF-1LR3.
27:41Speaker 1of the stuff I've read about it. But I have recently started taking it. And I was telling Will off camera
27:46Speaker 1that yesterday I took that son of a bitch and I mean instant, basically just, woah, rash all over my damn leg, like instant. Like it was crazy how fast that it was.
27:58Speaker 1so we have weird stuff going on. It is what it is. Everybody's a little different, man. Allergic reaction. That's what it'll look like. It
28:06Speaker 2itched and it was like instant. It was weird. And then I will put a caveat. So the no sting water, like, it is not there's no guarantees in life, folks, and it's not going to
28:19Speaker 2and you won't feel a damn thing. Right? It's gonna blunt it a whole lot, so it makes it tolerable. Okay? So let's just make this put that out in the air. But,
28:39Speaker 2yeah, there's that. But it does, I mean, it pretty works. It really, really, really helps. Over and over. A lot of people have trained it. Okay.
28:53Speaker 2thank you so much for all the wonderful information you have provided for all of us. My question is,
29:00Speaker 2I'm stocking up on Retta from my husband and wondering if it should be frozen before it's reconstituted
29:21Speaker 2in it and it is kept away from light and kept relatively cold. I would keep it in the fridge,
29:34Speaker 2don't freeze it. Don't freeze it. No. It'll last a long time just in your regular fridge, in the crisper section of the fridge. K. That's supposed to keep condensation
29:44Speaker 2and and humidity out, and that's what you're really looking for. Right? That's how it's supposed to keep your vegetables and fruits crisp. Right. So if your crisper works correctly, do that. Some people I talked to, I told you that like, well, that's the 1st thing that just ices up immediately. Well, your fridge might not be working right. So
30:03Speaker 2I don't know. Did somebody put out a post or something like where did this freezer thing come from? Because I've never even heard that, but I've been hearing a lot. Should I free my peptides? I don't know. Why did you- Why do that? Long,
30:39Speaker 1you so much for the wonderful information you provided for all of us. You're welcome. Question
30:45Speaker 1is, oh, we read that 1, right? No, wait, no. Yeah. I'm stocking up on Retatrut. You're the 1 below. I'm 58. Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, cool. I'm 58. It was a good peptide for growth stack
31:28Speaker 1I don't I'm not going to compare a peptide ever to any type of steroid because they're just not in that range.
31:34Speaker 1But I would say IGF-one would be, I guess, probably the closest to a degree if you take it after you lift
31:51Speaker 1Those 2 would be great, I think. And it obviously depends on how much do you want to take. So I would say MK-677
32:11Speaker 1And again, the IGF-one after you lift works well. I've been doing that a lot and I like it. I do feel like more fullness in my muscles.
32:23Speaker 1Anything else in regards to a bulk or peptide, it's just, they're not there. They're not there. Eat, eat,
32:29Speaker 1eat a lot. How do you bulk? Eat a lot, eat a lot, like more than like you want to eat. Cause if you're trying to bulk eat a lot foods, your answer to even if you're running juice, eat, you got to eat.
32:41Speaker 1So that's the simple answer when it comes to that. But those 2 will be good because I think,
32:46Speaker 1I think MK-six 77 is a lot like Anovar, you know, I have, you know, just to be blunt, I've ran steroid cycles and I just know a lot about them, you know, like we don't really do much of that stuff that much anymore because we have a lot of peptides and stuff, but, and we're getting older, but,
33:00Speaker 1MK is, is, is I have very comparable to a, to an Anabar in my opinion. Looks wise, feels wise,
33:11Speaker 2well, just because like MK is going to, well, a lot of people gain water retention. So like Anovar is a straight cutter.
33:18Speaker 2It is a cutter with some fat burning properties. And like people need to know, like, there's no cutters and fat burners are different. Right? A cutter is just there to only put on perfect lean muscle
33:40Speaker 2turn, the more muscle you have, the more fat you burn. Now, but Anabar is super duper mild, but it's a steroid. Super mild. They love it. People love it. Super mild steroid.
33:55Speaker 1can add water retention. So part of it is why you can Probably do though, like, I don't, I'm always cutting. Yeah, so like you, I understand why it maybe that's kind of why it makes sense for me because I'm always on a low carb diet, blah blah blah. So like for me, I get that same. I've ran them both and I look the same when I do them. And as far as anabolic
34:22Speaker 2Okay? If you lift weights, you eat protein powder, helps you grow your muscle, therefore it's anabolic. So, but MK- far as like the anabolic rate, like so
34:41Speaker 2all the peptides are, none of them are very anabolic at all. So they probably are about the same as far as the actual anabolicness.
34:49Speaker 2Now, and if you eat super duper clean like you do, absolutely. So like you probably see the same amount of muscle and you just don't get a lot of attention then. So it makes sense why you say that. But I think for a lot of people, they may have a different,
35:01Speaker 2I don't know, opinion or reaction, I suppose. But that is why that makes sense though. Now,
35:28Speaker 2grow much big food. Okay? Yeah. You just gotta eat. Now NK, I think is your best bet. Again, it's not really a peptide, but Sarmony type. Sarmony type thing, but it, yeah, it'll boost your hunger and and will help your growth hormone. That helps us grow more muscle if we are lifting weights and eating a lot of food. So
35:50Speaker 2the best thing you can do as far as peptides for to affect great muscle growth. Yeah. 2nd best
36:01Speaker 195 plus Ipamorelin blend. I think that's why it's so popular. I would say CJC is the most popular secretive dog, don't you? Yeah, probably. Because people are kind of taking it. That's the thing that every man who wants to take peptides but wants to try to grow muscle,
36:14Speaker 2they're gonna be on that same thing with a woman. And there's tons of women out there trying to gain muscle. Luckily, it'll work really well for a woman to gain muscle because
36:23Speaker 2it's a lot easier, well, they're more sensitive. Yeah, let's say that. It's not easier for a woman to gain muscle like a man, but
36:31Speaker 2for something that's not as sensitive of a drug, it'll affect them a lot better. Yeah.
36:37Speaker 2That. Okay. How are you doing brothers? It's me again. I'm loaded now with Retatr 30 mg and AOD-nine thousand 604. It is. Like you recommended. Already I have the 5Amino also, so I'm planning to get
36:51Speaker 2it in my cycle the last 8 weeks out of the 16 weeks that I'm going to be on Retta and AOD-nine thousand 604. But my question was this,
37:10Speaker 2Do I still go 16 weeks on AOD with that dose? And what will you recommend on Reta for me to be on, on the dose?
37:29Speaker 1I don't know. I don't know. I'm trying to remember if like, I mean, we've always talked to, gone over the hits question before. Well, let's forget that he wrote that and just let's answer the
37:56Speaker 1I take, yeah. So maybe that's what he's talking about because I take it twice a day. Not always, but I take AOD
38:03Speaker 1sometimes in the morning and night and I'll take 20 units. I don't remember the exact units.
38:10Speaker 1units is what I take. That's probably where we're talking about. So I take 20 units of the AOD in the morning and at night, I don't remember the mixing Migs off the top of my head. I don't have them all in memory, but that's
38:21Speaker 2what I take. You're probably talking about Okay. Yeah, sorry, dude. Like, I get it. Like, that's a massively common misconception.
38:34Speaker 2when we're talking about units, that is a very selective, that's a measurement of volume
38:39Speaker 2and that is just, and it's only a measure of volume on that specific syringe that we're talking about, right? It's got a 100 total units, the actual integers that you see, right? Those mean nothing,
38:56Speaker 2like usually growth hormone is measured in IUs. When you said 20 IUs, I said no, because I thought you were thinking HGH
39:30Speaker 1Monday, Wednesday, Friday. So yeah, I don't see your weight on here. Just trying to lose weight. Like what's the total objective? Mean, AOD burning fat, Retrutide burning fat. So that's contingent upon goals. So Retrutide
39:45Speaker 1what your goal is. If you're trying to lose weight, you dose it differently. If you're, if you're a gym rat lean already, you dose it differently. Like I don't ever recommend anybody that kind of looks like that's in shapey type deal, gym rat, where you don't ever need to go over 3 megs. In my opinion, I was actually talking to a buddy at the gym today and he was running 5 megs and he's lean as shit. I'm like,
40:06Speaker 1too much bro. Like you're getting with a wet dude, dude, that's too much. Like you want to stay buff. So
40:11Speaker 15 megs for somebody that's just trying to, you know, be lean too much. So I would never go over 3 mgs a week. I would even go like sometimes 1.5,
40:31Speaker 2make a decision and your adjustment may be down. Right? You may go, okay, that's too much, right? Then drop her down to 0.5 a week, 0.5, right? If it's doing absolutely nothing and you know that by you're not feeling you're just not feeling
40:47Speaker 2as full immediately as you should. Right? It shouldn't really take away your appetite.
40:55Speaker 0That 1st bite of your favorite sub, followed by ice cold Pepsi. Add a couple of friends, and now that's next level.
41:02Speaker 0Suddenly, the laughs get louder, the stories keep flowing, and the food tastes better because Pepsi brings out more flavor, more fun, and more of the moment.
41:31Speaker 1Then reassess. Yeah. And so the answer to the question about the 16 weeks, I don't know. I mean, I've ran it for more than 16 weeks. It doesn't increase your IGF-one.
41:46Speaker 1Just burns fat. So I think personally that you can take your warrant in 16 weeks. Do you agree with that? Yeah, I think so. There you go. And the rep, think we know that we can't, I'm like, like at
41:58Speaker 2body gets used to it and it stops working as well. Like run-in That's it. 5 I mean, I want to do for a month and then go right back in the AOD. And there's just, there's a lot (1h of cutters ban, a lot of burning fat peptides. It really freaking worked. Yep. Peptides may not be great 1 for bulking, but they damn sure are good for-3three Oh,
42:17Speaker 1that's just a, love that. So there you go. I know we kind of brutalized that question to agree. Sorry about that. We were just dead, but hopefully we kind of recovered. Here we go. Last 1.
42:27Speaker 1Love the show. Found y'all months ago and went through every episode. That's awesome. Y'all are great. I'm 34
44:12Speaker 1Wish nothing but the best for you and your families. Right back at you, my brother. Cool, cool.
44:18Speaker 2You want to jump on that? Sure. I'll answer a few questions directly there. So is that normal?
44:29Speaker 2if the and and people have different sensitivities. Okay? So sometimes you take these secretagogues,
44:45Speaker 2It's your heart rate goes up. So you Not super common, but it happen. But it can happen, especially if you are sensitive to
44:53Speaker 2sensitive to these things. So the fact that you when you dropped it down to 2 50 and 50,
45:02Speaker 2That sounds like you're so you said, hey, should I start back up, but I wanna start at 510?
45:07Speaker 2No. I would not start back up at 510. I would start back up at 2 50 and 50 micrograms. There we go. That's what I'm saying. Each and each. So start there. Let your it's all about letting your body get used to this stuff. Okay? So start there.
45:32Speaker 2maybe and then then you might you just might be able to get back up to where you were at, where you started, have 1 MIG and 2 50 and be just fine because now it's not a shock to your body. Alright. So I would absolutely start it. But if you are routine and water, it's causing heart rate to go up. That's not good. That's why. There it is. So,
45:55Speaker 2Realize people make this journey and say, I'm going to get a sit. I'm going get lean. I'm going get lean, get a 6 pack. And then they plateau right before that 6 pack. You need to be at about 10% to see your 6 pack Usually, it's because they burn off all of their muscle, right, or most of it, and then that's why you plateau because you've killed your metabolism. Now metabolism's
46:17Speaker 2Continue as you are cutting, just do not forget about lifting weights and eating protein and trying to
46:23Speaker 2get more lean muscle on you. Okay? That will just help that journey too. Higher lean muscle is a faster fat rolls off you. The problem that you've ran into. And again, it's fairly, fairly rare, but it does happen. We'll explain it very well.
46:37Speaker 1So kind of the back door that you could go instead of increasing your growth hormone and your IGF-one,
46:45Speaker 1You could just take an AOD and just kind of go to the back door. I mean, you're trying to burn fat anyway. So if your body doesn't do well with the Tesamorelin and it just probably because of the growth hormone is because that's, what's kind of going on.
46:59Speaker 1Just you're gonna, you can do the AOD, which is a fragment of the growth hormone and it's just going to burn the fat. So you won't have some of these other issues for someone like you.
47:12Speaker 1because you just want to burn fat anyway. You want to get that 6 pack. So that's probably what you do. I mean, because we love to say Ipra. Like it's 1 of our, probably 1 of our, it's definitely our favorite secret dog. I know that because we talk about it all the time.
47:28Speaker 1You can still add the AOD anyway again, because it's not going to increase your IGF-1s. So, but AOD would work well for you. And he's not saying like just doing both? Absolutely.
47:38Speaker 1I mean, like I said, it doesn't increase it. They don't, they don't like they work together. Yep. So
47:44Speaker 1good question. Good luck. Keep going. Those are good, man. That was cool. I enjoyed those.
48:03Speaker 2You have a 35 year old woman, and she is looking for what is the best stack for a woman for antiaging,
48:17Speaker 2nothing that is going she's very sensitive to every to things. Nothing that's gonna like raise her heart rate or
48:23Speaker 2yes, or make her feel any type of weird. So there is the question. Best act, 35 year old woman for anti aging, but she is easily overstimulated.
48:46Speaker 1Do you remember when we 1st started talking about NAD, we were so low dose. How long I'm trying to remember what- People like we ran it, we went to this like,
48:58Speaker 2and met this guy. He's like, oh yeah, dude, I take 100 mg a day every day just forever. Right? He is like with the big, giant like peptide manufacturer.
49:07Speaker 2Like, all right, I guess that's possible, right? And we know that people do drips, you know, thousands of milligrams over the same, in the same day. Now, if you squeeze that bag, it feels like fire ants are going in you. But, and I've personally done
49:40Speaker 2with the no sting water and that then it gets stimulated damp thing. What about HGH? And then HGH,
49:50Speaker 2a good time to take it. I think about 35 is as young as you want to go, but at 30 always tell people, like if I'm talking to somebody,
49:57Speaker 1what, just do it like, like we always say like, want to be successful, do successful people do movie stars take what? 2 things. HGH
50:09Speaker 1why do they do that? Because they have the best of the best. They know what freaking works. So NAD small
50:25Speaker 2There you go. Noticeable pretty quick. Yeah. I mean, in Hollywood they are, you've seen, I don't know, there was a couple, I don't follow it, but my girl was showing me these actresses who,
50:33Speaker 2damn, they've came out after a long time of not being in the spotlight and everybody's like, wow, why do you look so amazing? And they've said, I've been doing HGH and NAD.
50:43Speaker 2And HGH is a long term play, like don't expect that, but we're talking anti AG, cool. But if you start now, this isn't a promise, but like at 1 IU, you keep it going for 5 years,
51:02Speaker 2they don't leave my arsenal. Yep. Yep. And HGH is gonna help burn a lot of fat too. So-
51:14Speaker 1because I don't know if we've done that. If we have, it's been a while. Yeah. And that's a great compound.
51:30Speaker 1I want to talk a little bit about experience with it because it's been a little bit of weird experience and we'll throw that out there. So that will be recorded on Friday and we will be dropping it on Monday. Anything else for relief?
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