Peptide Q&A #25 – Mixing Peptides in One Vial, Bulking on RETA + AOD, Anti-Aging Stacks for Women Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-25-mixing-peptides-in-one-vial-bulking-on-reta-aod-anti-aging-stacks/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:01 Speaker 0: Late night bites with friends, 0:03 Speaker 0: already hard to beat. 0:05 Speaker 0: That 1st too hot bite of fries you couldn't wait for, 0:08 Speaker 0: followed by ice cold Pepsi. 0:11 Speaker 0: Now that hits different. 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Part of the game. 1:18 Speaker 1: So today is going to be good though because we've got the Q and A and 1:21 Speaker 1: we always like these. We always get to touch people. It's cool. We had some guys come in, you were gone. They 1:28 Speaker 1: kind of got led here by the 1:31 Speaker 1: podcast. 1:31 Speaker 1: I got to meet them, get a picture with them. 1:34 Speaker 1: Life was cool, dude. Like what a cool thing. 1:37 Speaker 2: I was gone. I will say to everybody, have the Seahawk shirt on. And the Seahawk's helmet if if this camera can see it. But, yes, I went to the playoff game, to the Seahawks playoff game in Seattle against the 49ers, 1:49 Speaker 2: because I'm born and raised in Seattle. My mom 1:52 Speaker 2: loves 1:53 Speaker 2: them. Really? 1:55 Speaker 2: And she's getting old in this season, I think. So, yes, so I bought tickets of me, 2:00 Speaker 2: my girl, my stepson, 2:02 Speaker 2: and my mother 2:03 Speaker 2: went to flew to Seattle and went to the playoff game. Was awesome, dude. I gotta say the fans, 2:08 Speaker 2: are like rabid. 2:10 Speaker 2: They did a damn good job of cheering for the team. It's a small city, right, and so they didn't I guess there's not as much to Yeah. 2:18 Speaker 2: Root for. Yeah. But it was a great game. We stomped the hell out of the Niners, that was great. Sorry, everybody's 40 Niners fans. My 2:26 Speaker 2: poor 2:28 Speaker 2: stepson, right, and 2:30 Speaker 2: I'm still 2:31 Speaker 2: unsure if I'm allowed to say his name, so I will 2:35 Speaker 2: that's why I haven't ever said his name, but 2:38 Speaker 2: he's a Niners fan. And I gotta say, man, the balls on that kid, like good for him. Dude, I gotta give him a shout out. So he was just decked out in Niners stuff. Right? Everybody, 2:47 Speaker 2: and there wasn't a good Niners turnout. Sorry, the Seattle fans bought it all. They were giving him shit. Now people in Seattle are, like, uber polite. 2:55 Speaker 2: Yeah. Really? So their heckling isn't mean. It's not like going to, a Niners and Oakland Raiders game, you know, in the big area where they, will stab you. But they will, 3:04 Speaker 2: but they still you know, he's 9 years old. So he's 9. He doesn't take well when he shows up and 3:09 Speaker 2: crowds of people are saying, 3:11 Speaker 2: hey man, you're wearing the wrong stuff. Like, oh, you're not gonna lose today. Right? Yeah. Like he was verge of tears the whole game. But like he would go into the bathroom and people would like, Nayers suck. And he would yell back at them, Seahawks suck. That's good. Surrounded by everybody. 3:28 Speaker 2: And all the people next to us, we sat in like the season ticket holders spot. So we were it was nice seats. We were like maybe 10 rows up from the field. Right. And after 3:37 Speaker 2: the game, all the people sitting by us were like, kind of grabbed him. Like, hey, kid, you did a really good job, dude. Like, you you got some balls for just That's right. Hanging in there, 3:46 Speaker 2: dealing with it, keeping all your stuff on, keep rooting for your team. They're like, dude, my son's 12 and he would have been crying 3:52 Speaker 2: at the beginning and told me, dad, why would you take me here? Yeah. Tell everybody not like me and me to be rooting against everybody else. So Have fun. Good job. Good job. And it was it was a blast. 4:04 Speaker 1: That's a good stuff. It was cold. 4:06 Speaker 2: You know, it was like 45 4:08 Speaker 2: during the day, like 35 at night, 4:11 Speaker 2: but it wasn't that bad. I think I'm like a little sick, so I'd just take some Thymosin Alpha and it'll be good. I was gonna say that. Was gonna put you on blast. 4:19 Speaker 1: My buddy, who's 1 the smartest of my friends that I know, and he knows more about supplements than anybody I know, for you know, where it's like, Bro, why did you not even fly and not take Thymosin Alpha, dude? No. I was just telling him. My father-in-law came in today and I'm like, don't ever fly without taking Thymosin Alpha- I just had too many things on my plate to deal. Like, it's like herding cats with my mother who's 80 years old. Right? And then, 4:42 Speaker 2: stepson who's 9 4:44 Speaker 2: and girlfriend all in a foreign place. 4:47 Speaker 2: So I don't know. Just 4:50 Speaker 2: went to the Seattle Aquarium and 4:52 Speaker 2: they had my 4:54 Speaker 2: girl and I go walk into the bathroom and there's a 4:58 Speaker 2: we walk in and I, like, out loud, we both like, what the hell? Oh, yeah. There's, like, men and women in the same bathroom. That is crazy. And then I'm like, what? And the guy behind me is like, yep, welcome to Seattle. There's a sign that says, like, multi gender bathroom. Weird. It's weird. Weird. I didn't know that 5:15 Speaker 2: that guess in Seattle that happens. Like, obviously. 5:18 Speaker 2: Like, what if you do girls wanna go in there and 5:22 Speaker 2: talk about like, have a private talk or, like, girls wanna go look at their makeup or you take your girlfriend there and I go, and you need to poop or something. Just get in the stall right next to me. Is that the only bathroom they had? Yeah. 5:33 Speaker 1: Interesting. The only 1. Yeah. Well, yeah. So there was that. Well, 5:39 Speaker 2: Seattle. So anyway, it's good to be back. It's 5:43 Speaker 2: good to be back. I mean- 5:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny, like we were even gone for the weekend, dude, and it's like, we 5:49 Speaker 1: stayed at a nice hotel and it was good, but like, ain't nothing like me at home. No, it's not. When we were home, we were both like, God, I love you. 5:55 Speaker 2: You Yeah. Know mean? So I'm here, go Seahawks and we got next week, we're playing the Rams. And 6:01 Speaker 2: then winner of that goes to the Super Bowl. Would you go to Super Bowl? 6:05 Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't take everybody. 6:08 Speaker 2: Probably just be like, those tickets are expensive. Mean, these tickets were expensive. Yeah. We'll 6:13 Speaker 2: see, maybe. 6:15 Speaker 1: Maybe. And like, I'm not such a diehard fan. Like, I'm not gonna lose sleep over the sea. I was losing, you know? But it's kind of fun to It's your town. It's my town. I'll do it for him. Yeah. Love it. Well, cool man. Good stuff. Good things. Well, let's you kick us off because you always do and you can't see at home guys, but we have them up on our screen here instead of our laptops like usual. Why don't you kick us off, dude? All right. So number 1. Well, 6:42 Speaker 2: actually, 6:43 Speaker 2: that was page 2. All right. Page 1. 6:46 Speaker 2: Hello, sir. Big fan of the show. I'm 51 years old, 51 year old male. I started my peptide journey on 05/02/2025. 6:54 Speaker 2: I started with tirzepatide and have lost 6:58 Speaker 2: 90.5 6:59 Speaker 2: pounds to date, which is amazing. 7:01 Speaker 2: I 7:02 Speaker 2: have since switched 7:04 Speaker 2: over to Reta, 20 mg, 7:05 Speaker 2: which I reconstitute with 2 MLs of backwater and use 5 mgs a week. Since then, I started with Thymosin Alpha-1Mg 7:14 Speaker 2: daily, GHK-two 7:16 Speaker 2: mgs daily, 5 mgs a 1 mq, 0.5 mgs daily, Glutathione 1500 7:21 Speaker 2: mg, 400 micrograms, 7:23 Speaker 2: 3 times a week. My 7:27 Speaker 2: that's a tiny dose. My question is, can I add all these to 1 sterile vial and inject together? 7:34 Speaker 2: Are these best to keep separate and inject individually? I want to keep the Retta separate. Love your podcast. 7:39 Speaker 1: I've listened to every episode at least twice. Keep doing what you guys do. Good stuff. Thank you. Good stuff. Yeah. So you want me to jump on this 1? Yeah, go ahead. Cause yeah. Cause I think we at 1st, we were kind of looking at it differently, but I think what you're asking is what I do, because I've done numerous posts. So I'm assuming that's what you're talking about. So what I do, for example, I have 5 peptides. 8:00 Speaker 1: I will take, I do the math for when I put in the water to be able to do 10 units on each of them so that I don't have to remember the dosages because, and then look, so I take 10 units of each 1 in the sterile vial, 8:16 Speaker 1: 5, and then I take 1 shot. So instead of 5 shots, I take 1 shot. Now I would not mix the Glutathione, 8:25 Speaker 1: but I personally 8:28 Speaker 1: would mix all those. Now 8:30 Speaker 1: I used to, 8:32 Speaker 1: well, I was talking about this. I used to do Retatrutide separate and HCG separate, 8:37 Speaker 1: because I didn't want to mix those. Now I'm even sick of that. I just put them all in the vial. I'm pretty confident they work 8:44 Speaker 1: and 8:45 Speaker 1: it's just to save me a jab. So 8:48 Speaker 1: that's what I do. The only thing 1 I would do separate, it would definitely be the glutathione because even though it's not oil, 8:56 Speaker 1: it's not the same. So, and that 1 stings a little bit, so you want to do that 1 separate. But the other ones, my answer is absolutely, 9:02 Speaker 1: I would do it. It's gonna save you some jabs, dude. Yeah, I think that you 9:06 Speaker 2: totally can. There is no problem with that. The efficacy will not be affected. 9:12 Speaker 2: Go for it. Glutathione, 9:14 Speaker 2: yeah, 9:15 Speaker 2: because you can do that 1 intramuscularly. 9:17 Speaker 2: I may just separate that. Here's the general rule. Know because I do 9:22 Speaker 2: this also, although I do it a bit 9:24 Speaker 2: differently, which is not the most efficient way to do it. You know, I'll take the same 9:29 Speaker 2: needle, right, inject, pull out my how much I need to pull out my how much I need to pull out how much, and then fill that syringe out and then do it all at once. The problem there is now that syringe has been has touched a rubber 9:40 Speaker 2: 5 times and is ultra dull. By the time that I try to inject it through my skin, it doesn't feel great. So if you were to do that, draw a squirt, draw a squirt, then grab a brand new 1 to just draw it all up, 9:52 Speaker 2: inject, 9:53 Speaker 2: smarter idea. You jump. 9:56 Speaker 2: I know that there are certain peptides, like if you were to do that and then as soon as I like to pull HGH, 10:04 Speaker 2: the whole syringe just goes cloudy. 10:06 Speaker 2: So bad sign. Basically don't do that with HGH. So essentially if you're pulling all those and the solution still is perfectly clear, 10:16 Speaker 2: go ahead. If you do that and there's 1 that you add and it changes the 10:20 Speaker 2: composition, 10:21 Speaker 2: the color, 10:22 Speaker 2: then don't do it with that 1 any longer. 10:25 Speaker 1: Needs to be done separately. We had talked about this because I have done numerous posts on this exact thing on reels on my personal channel. I think I've even put it on the Warrior Your channel as well, but I get nailed on people. That's going to mess up the pH balance, all this stuff, whatever. Everybody's a 10:41 Speaker 1: specialist, blah, blah, blah. But we do know some high people in some high places that are a lot smarter than us and the talk at all the peptide stuff. 10:50 Speaker 1: I made a call because I was actually curious. I'd straight up asked 1 of my good buddies and he said, if it does mess up any type of pH balance or any type of throws any of them off, it's such a fractional amount that don't even worry about it. So I respect him. He knows 11:07 Speaker 1: what he's talking about. So I'm going to listen to him over some dude on social media. So there you go. There's his answer. And I have a little side note. I didn't bring a mixing jar when I went to the hotel this weekend. And I thought of you because I did it that way. The other thing is too, I did some 5Amino 11:24 Speaker 1: and I got a little 5Amino in some of the ones that I did. 11:28 Speaker 1: Just doing like 10 units in the same bottle, you're not mixing them at all either. Dolling the needle sucks too, but a little bit gets in there. Little bit and you know it because everyone had a little orange. 11:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. There you go. 11:41 Speaker 1: All right, good. All right. So have you ever bolt 11:45 Speaker 1: by using Retatrutide 11:46 Speaker 1: and 11:47 Speaker 1: AOD-9604. I'm starting my BOLT now and currently running a low dose of Retta at 2 mg per week, 11:55 Speaker 1: split daily. 11:56 Speaker 1: All right. Plus AOD at 500 micrograms 12:00 Speaker 1: a day. So far it's been solid. Appetite is there and I'm able to stay in a surplus and 12:07 Speaker 1: body fat seems to be staying in check. Curious to hear your experience. 12:11 Speaker 1: He's also on TRT. 12:14 Speaker 2: I think your microphone's about to break. So I will take that as that technical difficulties get worked out. But dude, yes, you can. Absolutely. 12:23 Speaker 2: You can fix, you can use those, you can bulk. The problem is, so basically AOD and speeding up your metabolism is going to help burn fat. 12:33 Speaker 2: And Reta is going to help burn fat and is actually a little bit muscle protective. 12:38 Speaker 2: It will 12:39 Speaker 2: provide you with glucose when necessary instead of just eating all 12:45 Speaker 2: instead of digging into your muscle for energy. Alright? 12:49 Speaker 2: So that's 12:51 Speaker 2: totally doable. The problem is if you're bulking and you want to eat a lot of food and you want to eat bigger portions, 12:58 Speaker 2: red is definitely going to inhibit that. And for a normal person who's 13:04 Speaker 2: using red to lose weight, right, they're trying not to eat as much and then obviously they're going to be at a calorie, they're usually at a calorie deficit. 13:11 Speaker 2: So you cannot bulk 13:13 Speaker 2: if you're in a calorie deficit. It's just like math. Right? 13:19 Speaker 2: Calories in need to be greater than calories out. So you totally can because they're not they are not just like actively 13:26 Speaker 2: eating your muscle away. They are targeting fat, both of them. If you can manage to eat enough food 13:34 Speaker 2: all the time, absolutely. You can gain plenty of muscle and burn fat, especially while enhanced, meaning you're on test. 13:43 Speaker 1: Does he say test? Yes, he's on test. Yeah. I mean, he just summed it up. I mean, I 13:48 Speaker 1: love, I love, you know, rich piano's quote. I just love it because I just miss the guy. I loved watching this stuff. Want to get big, you got to eat big. And that's the truth. So how do you bulk? Got to eat. So I know we've thrown this out numerous times. You can throw an MK-six 77 on there. We've talked about it numerous time with a Retatrutide because they do offset each other. Well, I speak with experience. 14:08 Speaker 1: I 14:09 Speaker 1: had never had the hunger 14:11 Speaker 1: as much as when I ran it with Retatrutide. I don't know if it's coincidence or what, but I did it at the end of last year and man was I freaking hungry. Oh my gosh. So, and I was taking Retatrutide as well. So that will help. Or you just have to eat long past being satiated because Retrutide is going to make you get full quick. 14:30 Speaker 1: Just eat past your full. I do that now. Like I'm taking Retrutide now because I do it because it keeps you lean in hell and burns fat. So I take it and I eat past 14:40 Speaker 1: being full every day. So that's what I do. So you can do it. I do it. You can do it. There you go. Okay. 14:47 Speaker 2: This question is for my mom. Do 14:51 Speaker 2: you have a recommended stack for someone with osteoporosis? 14:54 Speaker 2: I know she needs to get her hormones in check, and I finally got her to schedule an appointment. Got 15:00 Speaker 2: her to schedule an appointment for her, but I know peptides could help a lot. Thanks for any advice. 15:06 Speaker 2: Hitting on dosages would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. 15:10 Speaker 2: Cool. I'll answer this. Quick answer is I would either do the CJC 15:15 Speaker 2: 12 95, 15:17 Speaker 2: with no DAC plus Ipamorelin blend 15:20 Speaker 2: or the Tesamorelin 15:22 Speaker 2: Ipamorelin blend. This 1st 1 will be a little bit stronger. 15:27 Speaker 2: Again, we've talked about this, but like some people 15:30 Speaker 2: develop a little allergic reaction because it's not, the CJC is pretty dang strong and it gives you a little bit more of a sustained growth hormone release instead of pulsatile like our body naturally does. And our body recognizes CJC as foreign 15:46 Speaker 2: and it builds histamine and it produces histamines to get rid of it, and that's what we see as an allergic reaction. Okay. 15:54 Speaker 2: If you take KPV with that, it should kill that allergic reaction and you'd be good. But Tesamorelin, 15:59 Speaker 2: Ipamorelin is a little less effective, but still damn effective and, 16:04 Speaker 2: very, very close to our natural growth hormone pulses. So I'd probably recommend that dosages. 16:09 Speaker 2: So she's an older woman for your mom. 16:12 Speaker 2: Osteoporosis is basically is our bones getting more brittle as we get older, right? Well, if she has osteoporosis, 16:19 Speaker 2: my guess either that or some condition that's causing it, but either way, Tesla, Ipah, I'd start her off at a lower dose. Would say, I mean, if you have a 5 mg Tesla plus 5 mg Ipah, okay, that's 1 bottle, it's a blend. 16:33 Speaker 2: I 16:33 Speaker 2: would add 1 mil of water and I would start off with 16:38 Speaker 2: maybe 16:39 Speaker 2: maybe 5 units daily, 16:41 Speaker 2: 7 days a week. 16:42 Speaker 2: And then 16:44 Speaker 2: after that's okay, you can bump that to 10 units daily. That 1st 1 will give her $22.50 16:50 Speaker 2: micrograms of each. Okay? It's pretty low dose for like a grown ass male. I would take 1000 micrograms of each. Oh yeah. But for her, maybe 2 50 started there. She goes up to 5. The next thing would be up to 500. 17:01 Speaker 2: And 17:05 Speaker 2: yeah, that's that's before bed. Right? Before 17:08 Speaker 2: bed. Yeah. Do it at night. Do it at night. That's before our biggest growth hormone pulse. It will really amplify that 1. Well, the Ipamorelin absolutely will. That's the 1 that, well, we have this big pulse there because our body's not stressed out. It's not doing anything else and it really works at that point. Yeah. And 7 days a week. There's no, none of this like 5 day on, 2 day off. I don't think it's just to save money. Just do it 7 days a week. And I would, for her, I would go 12 to 16 weeks. Yeah. If she starts to retain a little bit of water, you know your dose is a little bit high, back it down and titrate slower up. 17:42 Speaker 2: Perfect. 17:43 Speaker 1: Maybe a little GHKCU, 17:45 Speaker 1: collagen production. I would say a little HGH in the morning. 17:49 Speaker 1: I think HGH is great for anybody 40. 17:52 Speaker 1: Low dose women, 17:54 Speaker 1: 1 IU would do great in the morning with the Tessa Ipu at night. I think those 3 is what I would give my mom. 18:02 Speaker 1: So I think if you add those 3, she'll do great. Yes, absolutely. All of those are good. Yep. I think that she'll do great. All right. 18:10 Speaker 1: When will you have Warrior Maker tank tops available to buy on the website? Well, 18:15 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe soon. Soon. Yeah. 18:19 Speaker 1: We're having some couple of things. We were just meeting on that this morning. We're having some different sweatshirts, 18:24 Speaker 1: talking about some different shirts and whatnot. I think we're just going stick with the black shirts, 18:29 Speaker 1: maybe some different sweatshirts. 18:30 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll throw some tank tops. Summer is going to be coming soon. I'm a tank top guy. Well, it a tank top guy. So maybe we will do that. Yeah, here's the deal. We actually ordered cutoffs before. We have a whole bunch of cutoff shirts, right? And for some reason they decided to not be on regular shirt length and they go down to like straight, you know, sleeve cutoffs, not true tanks, but 18:51 Speaker 2: they go down to, well, my like belt line. 18:55 Speaker 2: So if I bend over to pick something up, it's like showing my back. 18:59 Speaker 2: Like I have a belly shirt on, so it's weird. Yeah. I don't know why they choose to make shirts that do that. And they didn't get these well. They're like right here. 19:07 Speaker 2: Gotta cut them right. We just gotta get the right ones. Does anybody have any suggestions on brands? 19:13 Speaker 2: I personally like next level t shirts like the 60 40 blend. Those things are awesome. 19:18 Speaker 1: But tank tops, we still got to figure out the right brand to buy. Yeah, we'll never talk. We're go tank top brand. I don't remember, but I have a tank top brand that I wear. They're just plain tank tops and every time I wear them, everybody asks what they are. And they fit good. So we're working on it. We're working on it. All right. You want me to this 1 again? Okay. So you guys love the podcast. I'm 45 year old male in San Diego. Nice. I'm 6 foot 2 20 pounds in good health and in good shape. I work out 5 to 6 days a week and have my diet dialed in about 81.8% 19:51 Speaker 1: of the time. That was funny. 19:53 Speaker 1: About 13 years ago, I found out I have a small benign tumor in my spinal cord. I run some peptides such as Retrutide, 20:01 Speaker 1: GHKCU, 20:02 Speaker 1: MOTS- C, NAD, 20:04 Speaker 1: and have held off on the Wolverine and the secretagogues 20:08 Speaker 1: because of the risk of the growing tumor. 20:10 Speaker 1: Am, am I being overly cautious here? 20:14 Speaker 1: I will save the BPC and TB in case I get an injury. What are your thoughts on the tumor growth, risk, 20:21 Speaker 1: and peptides? 20:22 Speaker 1: I also have been doing TRT for over a decade. 20:25 Speaker 1: All right. 20:26 Speaker 1: You want me 20:28 Speaker 0: The perfect lunch combo. 20:31 Speaker 0: That 1st bite of your favorite sub, followed by ice cold Pepsi. Add a couple of friends, and now that's next level. Suddenly, the laughs get louder, the stories keep flowing, and the food tastes better because Pepsi brings out more flavor, more fun, and more of the moment. Food deserves Pepsi. Grab a Pepsi 0 Sugar today. 20:51 Speaker 2: Gonna take that? 20:52 Speaker 2: I will start, and I'm pretty sure we're gonna be on the same page. Like, well, I don't know. As far as this goes, if me if I'm trying to recommend something to you, 21:00 Speaker 2: I would 21:02 Speaker 2: not take any of them, frankly. I think the Reta is okay. But 21:08 Speaker 2: I would on the side of caution. I mean, even MOTS-1C and NAD are gonna really help like cells replicate and better cell health, right? And that, 21:17 Speaker 2: frankly, like cancer, 21:19 Speaker 2: it's made up of cells and you're making all your cells more healthy. 21:24 Speaker 2: I would cut it all 21:27 Speaker 2: because 21:28 Speaker 2: that's not a good thing to have. I mean, that tumor is gone and then you're in absolute remission. So that's what I have to say is not a not want to be responsible at all for you. 21:39 Speaker 1: On the super side of caution, man. Turns bad. 21:44 Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. It is. Agree. Agree. All 21:47 Speaker 2: right. 21:48 Speaker 2: And sorry about the tumor. That sucks. 21:52 Speaker 2: Thoughts about taking CJC Ipah or Ipatezza, 21:56 Speaker 2: and AOD-nine thousand 604 at the same time, or would they be cycled at a different time? Love y'all stay blessed. I'll run this 1. Absolutely. 22:05 Speaker 1: You should. I have. I do. 22:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, they run great together. So the AOD is not going to increase any type of IGF-one. 22:12 Speaker 1: So they are running different, but the AOD is just going to burn fat. It's just going to burn fat. 22:17 Speaker 1: And the CJC-1MQ 22:19 Speaker 1: going to be, you're to take that to bed, hopefully if you're not, do that. And, it's going help your body to increase its own human growth hormone. So should you run those 2 together? Yeah, I can. I'm going to see contingent upon how old you are. If you're over 40, I would definitely, I just recommend the HGH man. I'm a big fan of it. I think an HGH in the morning and a secretagogue at night, they are wonderful. 22:43 Speaker 1: I know that with a lot of experience and I am a huge, huge, huge, huge fan of AOD-nine thousand 604. 22:49 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I think it's up in my top 3. So it's 1 of, it's definitely that good in my opinion because all its job is to do is to burn fat. 23:00 Speaker 1: It's going to burn freaking fat. 23:03 Speaker 2: So should you take them? Easy answer. Absolutely. Yeah. And there is no crossover. There's no crossover between like the CJC IP or Tesla IPA, right? Those are boosting your natural, like growth hormone. AOD, 23:15 Speaker 2: yeah, cool. It's a fragment of the HGH chain, but it is not doing any of those like 23:21 Speaker 2: actual growth 23:22 Speaker 2: properties. 23:23 Speaker 2: Is just doing the fat burning portion. Yep. Okay, it's the 23:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, 23:29 Speaker 2: there you go, no crossover. 23:31 Speaker 2: Next. 23:32 Speaker 2: Alright, 23:33 Speaker 2: I've gotten 1 peptide from my doctor, but 23:36 Speaker 2: he cannot prescribe me any others. 23:39 Speaker 2: If you cannot recommend 23:40 Speaker 2: a provider, 23:41 Speaker 2: can you tell me how to properly vet 1? Thanks in advance, my brothers. So 23:47 Speaker 2: we will 23:49 Speaker 2: send you a DM if we have your information or please send us a DM asking us that question and we will, we'll point you on 23:57 Speaker 1: where to get really good effective ones. Warrior makers, you have JD fit, you have our podcasts. 24:03 Speaker 1: We check them on the podcast, not as much, but the warrior and the JD fit, those DMS are answered constantly. 24:09 Speaker 1: So if you follow us on either of those, shoot us a DM and we will help you with that. 24:16 Speaker 1: Every time I inject MOTS-1C, I get a wicked big red welt that lasts for days or days. Well, For that reason, I'm using 5 mg, 24:25 Speaker 1: 2 times per week only. 24:28 Speaker 1: Same thing happens with GHK-3Cu, 24:30 Speaker 1: but worse. So I cycled off of that 1. 24:33 Speaker 1: Any thoughts and suggestions that might help with this? Thanks for all you do. So grateful for you guys and your team. 24:41 Speaker 1: Well, wow. I mean, 24:43 Speaker 1: the MOTS-3C- 24:45 Speaker 1: everybody's different. 24:46 Speaker 1: Everybody's different. You 24:49 Speaker 1: know? So for example, 24:51 Speaker 1: I get flushed as hell when I take NAD, 24:54 Speaker 1: like flush as hell, like 24:56 Speaker 1: flush as hell. Like I used to take it before podcasts because it does give me energy, but then I get too red and I don't like being a little cherry. So if you ever look back to some old podcasts and I look red, I just took some NAD. So there you go. So not everybody's like that. So my point is I had not heard of anybody having a big welt for days. 25:16 Speaker 1: I would say, who's your provider? If it's somebody that you trust, you might just be sensitive. You might have sensitive skin. You have pale people. They go to the sun for 5 minutes, they're sunburnt. 25:28 Speaker 1: Everybody's different. When it comes to the GHK- 25:31 Speaker 1: I think you know this, but let's talk about it. It stings like a son of a bitch. Now my partner, 25:38 Speaker 1: my partner, I didn't, I gave you credit today. I did a post about that and he's created a 25:44 Speaker 1: water that you can use that will definitely, it does take away the sting. It's been tried and tested. So 25:50 Speaker 1: you can DM us if you have some questions on that. I want to try that. That might help cause GHK-1CU 25:57 Speaker 1: stings like a bitch. I take it at night and I take it here in my thigh and not every night, but a lot of nights as I'm walking up the stairs, it's like, I have a big, 26:07 Speaker 1: welt on my leg for about an hour, but it's only an hour and it goes away fairly quickly. 26:12 Speaker 1: Now that to me is worth it because I know what GHK-1s): 26:16 Speaker 1: Does, I think it's, it's a powerhouse. 26:20 Speaker 1: But that's my situation, man. I think it's just the fact that the copper is just doing that to you and it does it to a lot of people. In regards to the MOTS-3C, the only outlier here is the fact that you're saying it does it for days. Have you heard for days? No, but I do know that, so, our friend Paul is allergic to MOTS-3C. Same thing like some people get easily 26:38 Speaker 2: easier allergic to CJC. So, he can't take MOTS-seven and will 1st sign of allergic reaction is kind of if it's a bigger welt. Now, it's other things that will create the welt, you know, if you don't inject it deep enough, if you're actually putting it into your dermis skin layer, 26:54 Speaker 2: It's not deep enough, actually into the fat or into your sub Q layer, 26:58 Speaker 2: we're going to see that welt up. Okay. 27:00 Speaker 2: But you 27:02 Speaker 2: could be allergic to MOTS-3s. So 27:05 Speaker 2: take KPV with it or 27:08 Speaker 2: another antihistamine 27:09 Speaker 2: like, 27:10 Speaker 2: I don't know, I take Xyzal. 27:12 Speaker 2: So 27:13 Speaker 2: what are some other, I don't know, some Claritin, 27:16 Speaker 2: something like that. 27:17 Speaker 2: That should 27:20 Speaker 1: fix the problem. If it's an allergic reaction, it'll fix the problem. Yeah, we were just talking oddly, we're going to probably do for the peptide of the week, think we're going do IGF-1LR3. 27:29 Speaker 1: I think we're going to do CJC with Hippamorelin. 27:32 Speaker 1: And the reason is 27:34 Speaker 1: haven't taken CJC. 27:36 Speaker 1: I'm a big Tesof HIPAA guy, 27:38 Speaker 1: but I haven't been a huge fan of CJG's, 27:41 Speaker 1: of the stuff I've read about it. But I have recently started taking it. And I was telling Will off camera 27:46 Speaker 1: that yesterday I took that son of a bitch and I mean instant, basically just, woah, rash all over my damn leg, like instant. Like it was crazy how fast that it was. 27:57 Speaker 1: And 27:58 Speaker 1: so we have weird stuff going on. It is what it is. Everybody's a little different, man. Allergic reaction. That's what it'll look like. It 28:06 Speaker 2: itched and it was like instant. It was weird. And then I will put a caveat. So the no sting water, like, it is not there's no guarantees in life, folks, and it's not going to 28:16 Speaker 2: take away the sting 100% 28:19 Speaker 2: and you won't feel a damn thing. Right? It's gonna blunt it a whole lot, so it makes it tolerable. Okay? So let's just make this put that out in the air. But, 28:28 Speaker 2: and then some people are super, 28:30 Speaker 2: super, super sensitive, right? And it still might just hurt a little bit. But 28:34 Speaker 2: I bet it would hurt way more 28:36 Speaker 2: if you didn't use that. So 28:39 Speaker 2: yeah, there's that. But it does, I mean, it pretty works. It really, really, really helps. Over and over. A lot of people have trained it. Okay. 28:46 Speaker 2: So that would be my only solution to GHK-3s. 28:49 Speaker 2: It is what it is. Okay. 28:51 Speaker 2: Thank you 28:53 Speaker 2: thank you so much for all the wonderful information you have provided for all of us. My question is, 29:00 Speaker 2: I'm stocking up on Retta from my husband and wondering if it should be frozen before it's reconstituted 29:06 Speaker 2: since I am buying in bulk. Thank you, Mary. Do not freeze it. 29:10 Speaker 2: Okay? Do not freeze it, please. 29:13 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. It will last a long, long time. Like you got a couple of years 29:18 Speaker 2: for it to last if there's no condensation 29:21 Speaker 2: in it and it is kept away from light and kept relatively cold. I would keep it in the fridge, 29:27 Speaker 2: not not too cold of a refrigerator. 29:29 Speaker 2: Okay. Not nothing that's like borderline freezing, 29:34 Speaker 2: but 29:34 Speaker 2: don't freeze it. Don't freeze it. No. It'll last a long time just in your regular fridge, in the crisper section of the fridge. K. That's supposed to keep condensation 29:44 Speaker 2: and and humidity out, and that's what you're really looking for. Right? That's how it's supposed to keep your vegetables and fruits crisp. Right. So if your crisper works correctly, do that. Some people I talked to, I told you that like, well, that's the 1st thing that just ices up immediately. Well, your fridge might not be working right. So 30:00 Speaker 2: not my fault. 30:03 Speaker 2: I don't know. Did somebody put out a post or something like where did this freezer thing come from? Because I've never even heard that, but I've been hearing a lot. Should I free my peptides? I don't know. Why did you- Why do that? Long, 30:14 Speaker 2: long term actual, 30:16 Speaker 2: so labs will 30:18 Speaker 2: freeze them at like 30:20 Speaker 2: super cold, super, 30:22 Speaker 2: super, super cold, which most of us don't have that ability, so don't do it. And 30:26 Speaker 2: it's not necessary. So why don't It's gonna last. Don't worry. If you needed more 30:31 Speaker 1: than 2 or 3 years, I think that you bought a lot. Yes, you did. 30:35 Speaker 1: If you did. Alright. 30:37 Speaker 1: Thank 30:39 Speaker 1: you so much for the wonderful information you provided for all of us. You're welcome. Question 30:45 Speaker 1: is, oh, we read that 1, right? No, wait, no. Yeah. I'm stocking up on Retatrut. You're the 1 below. I'm 58. Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, cool. I'm 58. It was a good peptide for growth stack 30:57 Speaker 1: to do after 6 weeks mini cut. I'm currently on Rx of TRT. 31:02 Speaker 1: Cheers, Cam. I'm assuming the question you're what you're referring to is 31:07 Speaker 1: bulk. 31:09 Speaker 1: We're assuming that's what you mean. So what would be a good peptides bulk? 31:14 Speaker 1: You may jump on this. I like the IGF-one. 31:17 Speaker 1: I mean, 31:19 Speaker 1: I take IGF-1LR-three 31:21 Speaker 1: after I lift. 31:22 Speaker 1: I think it's great. It's going to give you some fullness of your muscle recovery. 31:28 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not going to compare a peptide ever to any type of steroid because they're just not in that range. 31:34 Speaker 1: But I would say IGF-one would be, I guess, probably the closest to a degree if you take it after you lift 31:41 Speaker 1: because MK-677, 31:42 Speaker 1: I'm going to say that too, but it's not a peptide. It's a non 31:46 Speaker 1: secretagot peptide. 31:51 Speaker 1: Those 2 would be great, I think. And it obviously depends on how much do you want to take. So I would say MK-677 31:57 Speaker 1: at night. It is great for bulk. 32:01 Speaker 1: I've used it numerous times, 32:04 Speaker 1: and it's amazing. Like I said, it'll make you hungry. So when you eat more, you bulk 32:09 Speaker 1: is a good thing. 32:11 Speaker 1: And again, the IGF-one after you lift works well. I've been doing that a lot and I like it. I do feel like more fullness in my muscles. 32:19 Speaker 1: So that's what I would do. 32:23 Speaker 1: Anything else in regards to a bulk or peptide, it's just, they're not there. They're not there. Eat, eat, 32:29 Speaker 1: eat a lot. How do you bulk? Eat a lot, eat a lot, like more than like you want to eat. Cause if you're trying to bulk eat a lot foods, your answer to even if you're running juice, eat, you got to eat. 32:41 Speaker 1: So that's the simple answer when it comes to that. But those 2 will be good because I think, 32:46 Speaker 1: I think MK-six 77 is a lot like Anovar, you know, I have, you know, just to be blunt, I've ran steroid cycles and I just know a lot about them, you know, like we don't really do much of that stuff that much anymore because we have a lot of peptides and stuff, but, and we're getting older, but, 33:00 Speaker 1: MK is, is, is I have very comparable to a, to an Anabar in my opinion. Looks wise, feels wise, 33:07 Speaker 1: shape wise. You agree with that? Not really, but I think, 33:11 Speaker 2: well, just because like MK is going to, well, a lot of people gain water retention. So like Anovar is a straight cutter. 33:18 Speaker 2: It is a cutter with some fat burning properties. And like people need to know, like, there's no cutters and fat burners are different. Right? A cutter is just there to only put on perfect lean muscle 33:29 Speaker 2: and 33:31 Speaker 2: pull some bad water out of your body to make you look really lean, right? It's 33:37 Speaker 2: not really going to help burn fat. I mean, in 33:40 Speaker 2: turn, the more muscle you have, the more fat you burn. Now, but Anabar is super duper mild, but it's a steroid. Super mild. They love it. People love it. Super mild steroid. 33:49 Speaker 2: MK-677 33:51 Speaker 2: boosts the hell out of your hunger 33:53 Speaker 2: and 33:55 Speaker 1: can add water retention. So part of it is why you can Probably do though, like, I don't, I'm always cutting. Yeah, so like you, I understand why it maybe that's kind of why it makes sense for me because I'm always on a low carb diet, blah blah blah. So like for me, I get that same. I've ran them both and I look the same when I do them. And as far as anabolic 34:13 Speaker 2: folks just means anabolic like dictionary definition means grows muscle, right? 34:19 Speaker 2: Protein powder is anabolic. 34:22 Speaker 2: Okay? If you lift weights, you eat protein powder, helps you grow your muscle, therefore it's anabolic. So, but MK- far as like the anabolic rate, like so 34:29 Speaker 2: ANNOVAR on the anabolic rating amongst other steroids is nothing, right? Yeah. MK 34:35 Speaker 2: amongst other peptides 34:38 Speaker 2: in such is 34:39 Speaker 2: top, 34:40 Speaker 2: but 34:41 Speaker 2: all the peptides are, none of them are very anabolic at all. So they probably are about the same as far as the actual anabolicness. 34:49 Speaker 2: Now, and if you eat super duper clean like you do, absolutely. So like you probably see the same amount of muscle and you just don't get a lot of attention then. So it makes sense why you say that. But I think for a lot of people, they may have a different, 35:01 Speaker 2: I don't know, opinion or reaction, I suppose. But that is why that makes sense though. Now, 35:08 Speaker 2: yes, got to hear an answer for that. 35:11 Speaker 2: Kind of just realize guys like peptides, 35:15 Speaker 2: are just not steroids. 35:17 Speaker 2: They're just not strong enough to really affect your hormones like steroids do. 35:22 Speaker 2: There's none that are really good for making a grown man who's already muscled 35:28 Speaker 2: grow much big food. Okay? Yeah. You just gotta eat. Now NK, I think is your best bet. Again, it's not really a peptide, but Sarmony type. Sarmony type thing, but it, yeah, it'll boost your hunger and and will help your growth hormone. That helps us grow more muscle if we are lifting weights and eating a lot of food. So 35:45 Speaker 2: Yeah. The the IGF-1LR-three 35:48 Speaker 2: is about the biggest, 35:50 Speaker 2: the best thing you can do as far as peptides for to affect great muscle growth. Yeah. 2nd best 35:57 Speaker 2: other than, like, MK for real peptides is by CJC-twelve 36:01 Speaker 1: 95 plus Ipamorelin blend. I think that's why it's so popular. I would say CJC is the most popular secretive dog, don't you? Yeah, probably. Because people are kind of taking it. That's the thing that every man who wants to take peptides but wants to try to grow muscle, 36:14 Speaker 2: they're gonna be on that same thing with a woman. And there's tons of women out there trying to gain muscle. Luckily, it'll work really well for a woman to gain muscle because 36:23 Speaker 2: it's a lot easier, well, they're more sensitive. Yeah, let's say that. It's not easier for a woman to gain muscle like a man, but 36:31 Speaker 2: for something that's not as sensitive of a drug, it'll affect them a lot better. Yeah. 36:35 Speaker 2: A little bit goes a long way. Yep. 36:37 Speaker 2: That. Okay. How are you doing brothers? It's me again. I'm loaded now with Retatr 30 mg and AOD-nine thousand 604. It is. Like you recommended. Already I have the 5Amino also, so I'm planning to get 36:51 Speaker 2: it in my cycle the last 8 weeks out of the 16 weeks that I'm going to be on Retta and AOD-nine thousand 604. But my question was this, 36:59 Speaker 2: you recommended to do 20 IUs in the morning. 37:04 Speaker 2: It's not true. 37:05 Speaker 1: Yeah. 37:07 Speaker 2: In the morning and night of the AOD-nine thousand 604. 37:10 Speaker 2: Do I still go 16 weeks on AOD with that dose? And what will you recommend on Reta for me to be on, on the dose? 37:19 Speaker 2: Okay. So what do they do? Reta and AOD. Okay. 37:24 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm wondering where the 20 IU of what? What do we recommend that at? 37:29 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I'm trying to remember if like, I mean, we've always talked to, gone over the hits question before. Well, let's forget that he wrote that and just let's answer the 37:38 Speaker 2: direct next 2 sentences. 37:43 Speaker 2: AOD at that dose. That's what they said, AOD at that dose. The question was 37:48 Speaker 2: Red from me to me on. 37:52 Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact measure. 37:56 Speaker 1: I take, yeah. So maybe that's what he's talking about because I take it twice a day. Not always, but I take AOD 38:03 Speaker 1: sometimes in the morning and night and I'll take 20 units. I don't remember the exact units. 38:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, 20 units. So 20 I use 20 38:10 Speaker 1: units is what I take. That's probably where we're talking about. So I take 20 units of the AOD in the morning and at night, I don't remember the mixing Migs off the top of my head. I don't have them all in memory, but that's 38:21 Speaker 2: what I take. You're probably talking about Okay. Yeah, sorry, dude. Like, I get it. Like, that's a massively common misconception. 38:28 Speaker 2: An international unit 38:31 Speaker 2: is an actual measurement of mass versus 38:34 Speaker 2: when we're talking about units, that is a very selective, that's a measurement of volume 38:39 Speaker 2: and that is just, and it's only a measure of volume on that specific syringe that we're talking about, right? It's got a 100 total units, the actual integers that you see, right? Those mean nothing, 38:49 Speaker 2: frankly, unless we know how much water was mixed into what milligram. But 38:56 Speaker 2: like usually growth hormone is measured in IUs. When you said 20 IUs, I said no, because I thought you were thinking HGH 39:02 Speaker 2: and doing 20 IUs, don't do that. That's way too much. 39:06 Speaker 2: But I'm sorry, so JD 39:09 Speaker 2: is saying that I believe the mic, I would say maybe between 500 39:14 Speaker 2: micrograms 39:15 Speaker 2: and 1000 micrograms, so 0.5 a milligram to 1 mg 39:18 Speaker 2: of AOD. Yep. Okay. 39:21 Speaker 2: And he does it twice a day. For the Retta, I always 39:26 Speaker 2: recommend folks do start 39:28 Speaker 2: off with 1 mg, 39:30 Speaker 1: Monday, Wednesday, Friday. So yeah, I don't see your weight on here. Just trying to lose weight. Like what's the total objective? Mean, AOD burning fat, Retrutide burning fat. So that's contingent upon goals. So Retrutide 39:43 Speaker 1: is so contingent 39:44 Speaker 1: upon 39:45 Speaker 1: what your goal is. If you're trying to lose weight, you dose it differently. If you're, if you're a gym rat lean already, you dose it differently. Like I don't ever recommend anybody that kind of looks like that's in shapey type deal, gym rat, where you don't ever need to go over 3 megs. In my opinion, I was actually talking to a buddy at the gym today and he was running 5 megs and he's lean as shit. I'm like, 40:06 Speaker 1: too much bro. Like you're getting with a wet dude, dude, that's too much. Like you want to stay buff. So 40:11 Speaker 1: 5 megs for somebody that's just trying to, you know, be lean too much. So I would never go over 3 mgs a week. I would even go like sometimes 1.5, 40:20 Speaker 1: just 0.5, 0.5, 0.5 40:23 Speaker 2: if you're super lean. So basically I tell, I say the 40:26 Speaker 2: 1 mg, 3 times a week, do that for 2 weeks, then hey, 40:31 Speaker 2: make a decision and your adjustment may be down. Right? You may go, okay, that's too much, right? Then drop her down to 0.5 a week, 0.5, right? If it's doing absolutely nothing and you know that by you're not feeling you're just not feeling 40:47 Speaker 2: as full immediately as you should. Right? It shouldn't really take away your appetite. 40:53 Speaker 0: The perfect lunch combo. 40:55 Speaker 0: That 1st bite of your favorite sub, followed by ice cold Pepsi. Add a couple of friends, and now that's next level. 41:02 Speaker 0: Suddenly, the laughs get louder, the stories keep flowing, and the food tastes better because Pepsi brings out more flavor, more fun, and more of the moment. 41:11 Speaker 0: Food deserves Pepsi. Grab a Pepsi 0 Sugar today. 41:16 Speaker 2: God, in 2 weeks, you can tell if if your eating habits have changed, 41:20 Speaker 2: and you can go up or down from there. And I would only up or down by 41:25 Speaker 2: 0.5 of a mg per 41:27 Speaker 2: dose. 41:29 Speaker 2: Okay. That's your adjustment range. 41:31 Speaker 1: Then reassess. Yeah. And so the answer to the question about the 16 weeks, I don't know. I mean, I've ran it for more than 16 weeks. It doesn't increase your IGF-one. 41:40 Speaker 1: I've 41:41 Speaker 1: said it, I'll say it again, I love AOD. I just think it's amazing. 41:46 Speaker 1: Just burns fat. So I think personally that you can take your warrant in 16 weeks. Do you agree with that? Yeah, I think so. There you go. And the rep, think we know that we can't, I'm like, like at 41:55 Speaker 2: that point, it might be about time to change just because your 41:58 Speaker 2: body gets used to it and it stops working as well. Like run-in That's it. 5 I mean, I want to do for a month and then go right back in the AOD. And there's just, there's a lot (1h of cutters ban, a lot of burning fat peptides. It really freaking worked. Yep. Peptides may not be great 1 for bulking, but they damn sure are good for-3three Oh, 42:17 Speaker 1: that's just a, love that. So there you go. I know we kind of brutalized that question to agree. Sorry about that. We were just dead, but hopefully we kind of recovered. Here we go. Last 1. 42:27 Speaker 1: Love the show. Found y'all months ago and went through every episode. That's awesome. Y'all are great. I'm 34 42:34 Speaker 1: year old male, six'two, 2 17 pounds, maybe 15% 42:39 Speaker 1: -ish. Body fat was 2 50 last year, meaning testosterone 42:45 Speaker 1: level, had low T and got on a clomiphene 42:48 Speaker 1: 12.5 42:50 Speaker 1: mg daily 42:51 Speaker 1: about a year and 0.5 ago. Went from 3 60 testosterone 42:56 Speaker 1: to 8 20 level 42:58 Speaker 1: and never looked back. I've cycled Reta over the last year and currently on 43:04 Speaker 1: it doing 2 Migs once a week. 43:08 Speaker 1: My goal is to continue fat loss until I get a 6 pack. Awesome. 43:13 Speaker 1: I want to run Tessa Ipah cycle, 43:16 Speaker 1: but I did this last summer and had an increased heart rate that affected my sleep. 43:21 Speaker 1: Went from a resting range 43:24 Speaker 1: around 50 to 55 43:26 Speaker 1: to 70 to 80. 43:28 Speaker 1: I was taking 1 mg of Tesamorelin 43:31 Speaker 1: and 2 50 micrograms of Bipomorelin. So 5 days on, 2 days off weekly at night. 43:38 Speaker 1: I switched to morning and the same thing happened. 43:41 Speaker 1: Because of this, 43:42 Speaker 1: I took Tessa down to 2 50 micrograms 43:46 Speaker 1: and Ipah to 50 micrograms. 43:49 Speaker 1: Heart rate returned to normal, 43:51 Speaker 1: but I stopped 8 weeks in for the travel and other commitments. 43:56 Speaker 1: What do you think about me starting it again? Is the increased heart rate normal? 44:02 Speaker 1: Currently, thought is trying to do 500 micrograms of Tessa 44:05 Speaker 1: and 100 micrograms of Ipi daily 44:09 Speaker 1: from there. Thanks again for the great content. 44:12 Speaker 1: Wish nothing but the best for you and your families. Right back at you, my brother. Cool, cool. 44:18 Speaker 2: You want to jump on that? Sure. I'll answer a few questions directly there. So is that normal? 44:25 Speaker 2: It can be normal. So here's the simple answer is 44:29 Speaker 2: if the and and people have different sensitivities. Okay? So sometimes you take these secretagogues, 44:35 Speaker 2: they can make you retain water. Right? 44:38 Speaker 2: Retaining 44:39 Speaker 2: water increases your blood pressure, your heart has to work harder. Yes. K. 44:45 Speaker 2: It's your heart rate goes up. So you Not super common, but it happen. But it can happen, especially if you are sensitive to 44:53 Speaker 2: sensitive to these things. So the fact that you when you dropped it down to 2 50 and 50, 44:59 Speaker 2: the heart rate normalized, 45:01 Speaker 2: good. 45:02 Speaker 2: That sounds like you're so you said, hey, should I start back up, but I wanna start at 510? 45:07 Speaker 2: No. I would not start back up at 510. I would start back up at 2 50 and 50 micrograms. There we go. That's what I'm saying. Each and each. So start there. Let your it's all about letting your body get used to this stuff. Okay? So start there. 45:21 Speaker 2: Run that for a week, maybe 2, 45:23 Speaker 2: and bump her up. Okay? 45:26 Speaker 2: And bump up and just in titrate, 45:28 Speaker 2: right, very slowly 45:29 Speaker 2: incrementally. 45:31 Speaker 1: Until 45:32 Speaker 2: maybe and then then you might you just might be able to get back up to where you were at, where you started, have 1 MIG and 2 50 and be just fine because now it's not a shock to your body. Alright. So I would absolutely start it. But if you are routine and water, it's causing heart rate to go up. That's not good. That's why. There it is. So, 45:50 Speaker 2: and my last thing is, yeah, cool. Good. Get it, get your 6 pack. That's awesome. 45:55 Speaker 2: Realize people make this journey and say, I'm going to get a sit. I'm going get lean. I'm going get lean, get a 6 pack. And then they plateau right before that 6 pack. You need to be at about 10% to see your 6 pack Usually, it's because they burn off all of their muscle, right, or most of it, and then that's why you plateau because you've killed your metabolism. Now metabolism's 46:14 Speaker 2: super slow, you ain't making any more progress. 46:17 Speaker 2: Continue as you are cutting, just do not forget about lifting weights and eating protein and trying to 46:23 Speaker 2: get more lean muscle on you. Okay? That will just help that journey too. Higher lean muscle is a faster fat rolls off you. The problem that you've ran into. And again, it's fairly, fairly rare, but it does happen. We'll explain it very well. 46:37 Speaker 1: So kind of the back door that you could go instead of increasing your growth hormone and your IGF-one, 46:43 Speaker 1: because that's the problem. 46:45 Speaker 1: You could just take an AOD and just kind of go to the back door. I mean, you're trying to burn fat anyway. So if your body doesn't do well with the Tesamorelin and it just probably because of the growth hormone is because that's, what's kind of going on. 46:59 Speaker 1: Just you're gonna, you can do the AOD, which is a fragment of the growth hormone and it's just going to burn the fat. So you won't have some of these other issues for someone like you. 47:09 Speaker 1: Would probably just do that 47:12 Speaker 1: because you just want to burn fat anyway. You want to get that 6 pack. So that's probably what you do. I mean, because we love to say Ipra. Like it's 1 of our, probably 1 of our, it's definitely our favorite secret dog. I know that because we talk about it all the time. 47:23 Speaker 1: But do that or 47:25 Speaker 1: do what Will said, you know, you did find at those levels. 47:28 Speaker 1: You can still add the AOD anyway again, because it's not going to increase your IGF-1s. So, but AOD would work well for you. And he's not saying like just doing both? Absolutely. 47:38 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, it doesn't increase it. They don't, they don't like they work together. Yep. So 47:44 Speaker 1: good question. Good luck. Keep going. Those are good, man. That was cool. I enjoyed those. 47:49 Speaker 1: Sir. None of them were like too, too 47:53 Speaker 1: pretty 47:54 Speaker 2: typical. Like, good stuff. Yep. Alright. So we have a guest question. 47:59 Speaker 2: So someone called in and asked, so here's the question if I do it from memory. 48:03 Speaker 2: You have a 35 year old woman, and she is looking for what is the best stack for a woman for antiaging, 48:10 Speaker 2: but 48:11 Speaker 2: this woman is uber sensitive 48:14 Speaker 2: to overstimulation. 48:15 Speaker 2: So 48:17 Speaker 2: nothing that is going she's very sensitive to every to things. Nothing that's gonna like raise her heart rate or 48:23 Speaker 2: yes, or make her feel any type of weird. So there is the question. Best act, 35 year old woman for anti aging, but she is easily overstimulated. 48:32 Speaker 1: I mean, I could look at you thinking that we're gonna say a couple of the same. NAD. 48:36 Speaker 2: Okay, NAD, but 48:39 Speaker 2: at a higher dose of NAD, 48:41 Speaker 2: it can make you tingly. Yeah, I would say a low but 48:45 Speaker 2: frequent. 48:46 Speaker 1: Do you remember when we 1st started talking about NAD, we were so low dose. How long I'm trying to remember what- People like we ran it, we went to this like, 48:55 Speaker 2: be this conference in Vegas 48:58 Speaker 2: and met this guy. He's like, oh yeah, dude, I take 100 mg a day every day just forever. Right? He is like with the big, giant like peptide manufacturer. 49:07 Speaker 2: Like, all right, I guess that's possible, right? And we know that people do drips, you know, thousands of milligrams over the same, in the same day. Now, if you squeeze that bag, it feels like fire ants are going in you. But, and I've personally done 49:19 Speaker 2: somewhere that was, I mean, yeah, I was frozen 49:23 Speaker 2: in tingling. I literally could not move. 49:26 Speaker 2: Demoralized, like, oh shit, just breathe it out and don't freak out. 49:31 Speaker 1: But 49:32 Speaker 2: again, NAD low dose for sure, GHKCu, 49:36 Speaker 2: absolutely. It helps your skin- With your water. With your water, 49:40 Speaker 2: with the no sting water and that then it gets stimulated damp thing. What about HGH? And then HGH, 49:46 Speaker 2: That is what? 35 year old. 35 year old. That's 49:50 Speaker 2: a good time to take it. I think about 35 is as young as you want to go, but at 30 always tell people, like if I'm talking to somebody, 49:57 Speaker 1: what, just do it like, like we always say like, want to be successful, do successful people do movie stars take what? 2 things. HGH 50:05 Speaker 2: for sure. Test. And NAD. So 50:09 Speaker 1: why do they do that? Because they have the best of the best. They know what freaking works. So NAD small 50:13 Speaker 1: amount of HGH for women. 1 IU. 50:16 Speaker 1: IU. Yeah. Little bit HGHKCU 50:18 Speaker 1: because it's going to get rid of collagen 50:20 Speaker 1: production, 50:21 Speaker 1: gets rid of wrinkles. 50:22 Speaker 1: Skin just looks crisp and golden. 50:25 Speaker 2: There you go. Noticeable pretty quick. Yeah. I mean, in Hollywood they are, you've seen, I don't know, there was a couple, I don't follow it, but my girl was showing me these actresses who, 50:33 Speaker 2: damn, they've came out after a long time of not being in the spotlight and everybody's like, wow, why do you look so amazing? And they've said, I've been doing HGH and NAD. 50:43 Speaker 2: And HGH is a long term play, like don't expect that, but we're talking anti AG, cool. But if you start now, this isn't a promise, but like at 1 IU, you keep it going for 5 years, 50:54 Speaker 2: In 5 years, you're gonna look how you do it now, if not better. 10 50:59 Speaker 1: years. 51:00 Speaker 1: HGH and TRT, 51:02 Speaker 2: they don't leave my arsenal. Yep. Yep. And HGH is gonna help burn a lot of fat too. So- 51:07 Speaker 1: it's tough. So we 51:09 Speaker 1: decided, 51:11 Speaker 1: will not today, that we're going to do IGF-1LR-three 51:14 Speaker 1: because I don't know if we've done that. If we have, it's been a while. Yeah. And that's a great compound. 51:19 Speaker 1: What the hell? Know. Like we love that 1. Then we are going to throw some CJC 51:23 Speaker 1: dip in there because I know it's been a while. It's probably most people's favorite 51:29 Speaker 1: secretagogues. 51:30 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about experience with it because it's been a little bit of weird experience and we'll throw that out there. So that will be recorded on Friday and we will be dropping it on Monday. Anything else for relief? 51:42 Speaker 2: Go, go Hawks. 51:44 Speaker 1: So that is it. We appreciate you. We get your DMs. We love every single 1 of you. Every comment is read, and, we appreciate you. So we will catch you next round 51:55 Speaker 1: later. 51:56 Speaker 2: Peace.