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0:36Speaker 1What is up everybody? Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham, right next to me and my buddy, my co host William T. Haas. Welcome back. We should have done this yesterday, but we're doing it today. Doing it today. This week has been a little bit of some technical difficulties as we get the podcast room up to par. Yeah. It's taken, there's a couple curve balls that have been thrown at us, but we are here. We're doing it a little late for the 2nd time of the week, but we will be more back We're doing more, to our
1:10Speaker 1Ain't that the truth? That's how things work. Luckily, we have some people that are smarter than us helping us.
1:15Speaker 1Absolutely. You're actually good at tech though. Yeah. So I'll give you that. Me neither. Not so much. But it's been a mix of, yes, construction and,
1:27Speaker 1work as it's supposed to. I always just like try to find perspective, man. We're sitting in our own podcast room. Laughs pretty damn cool. Yeah, life's cool.
1:35Speaker 1Laughs is cool. We never would have thought, but here we are, man. What a cool thing life is. Well, so a little side, side note here, like, you know, you just took 6 years of sobriety. And on Sunday I take 15.
1:52Speaker 1promises they talk about in Alcoholics Anonymous, not to talk about Alcoholics Anonymous because it's anonymous, but they're
1:59Speaker 1real, dude. They are real. When you give back to people, when you, you know, 1 of my favorite quotes from my sponsor was great men help other men succeed.
2:06Speaker 1Man, when you do that, it pays dividends, baby. We're living proof. I mean, yeah. Have the work ethic to back it up. But yeah, but no, we only really got the work ethic.
2:22Speaker 2I guess I did lots of uppers in my day to have better work ethic, right? So I could work my ass off, right, 18 hours a day just to make a bunch of money and then spend it all again on drugs to fuel me to work 18 hours and then ended up 5 years later going-
2:44Speaker 2I almost would've been better off just playing video games all day long doing But absolutely
2:59Speaker 2That is when you I mean, the Bible says it, right? Like, give and you shall receive, right? Like, that's when you actually start
3:06Speaker 1getting any gifts, right? The cool thing is tangible things, everybody wants them. You do get some tangible stuff, right? You just you know, everybody wants pretty things. But the things that are priceless are peace of mind, contentment, serenity.
3:25Speaker 1you're full of anxiety, you're full of stress, you're full of like, that's your subconscious screaming at you that you're not living up to your potential and you're, you're, you're falling out of line of God's order and everything's just chaos. So when you get things in line and you help people and not expecting anything in return,
3:46Speaker 1We both not had that. Now we have it now, and that's priceless, dude. It is priceless, 100%. That's what keeps I know that I can speak for both of us, because I know you well. I mean, that is,
3:57Speaker 1something that kind of keeps us in line to a degree because, man, we've seen people that fall away from,
4:03Speaker 1you know, starting to cut corners and stuff like that, and they start to lose that piece. And all of a sudden, man, they got a bottle in their hand again. Absolutely. Awesome. And I mean, all of these lessons that we learned, like,
4:19Speaker 2faced with a decision, we have to stop and think and go- Let's integrate. What is the absolute,
4:37Speaker 2Looking at them. Because you're yeah. Because, I mean, you're not having to, like, I don't know, struggle with
4:43Speaker 2with these decisions. You just go, well, that's So, the right thing to like, that's what we're gonna do. And I don't even and there's no debate to that. And that's just, that's how we move forward. I don't care how harmful it is to me.
4:57Speaker 1much of a pain in the ass it is, but to that, we're doing it. Well, cool, man. Well, happy 6 to you in a couple days. Happy 15 to me. And,
5:09Speaker 1he didn't see my last day, but I did see his last day when he was running amok and, he ran his truck into a wall.
5:21Speaker 1Done a lot, man. It's been a blessing. I guess the 1st day of sobriety was in jail, but, um-
5:38Speaker 2And luckily I woke up. And then I went to jail. The dog went to jail and my man, like that was the worst thing about it, to be honest, was just trying to get out so I could go get him.
5:52Speaker 2doesn't play well with others when he's scared. And so they had it when I finally like figured out where he was, because it was so hard to just to get any answers.
6:01Speaker 2Yeah, he was in like solitary confinement with a muzzle on. Oh, wow. Yeah, I felt bad. Had to catch an Uber.
6:07Speaker 2They had like 3 Ubers come. Because you can get you can have dogs in Uber. It's just up to the driver. Uh-huh. I had 3 Uber drivers come, look at us. I'm like, nope. Really? Just drive away. Yeah.
6:18Speaker 2But but finally, we got him back. And I mean, to be honest, like, really I'm not cruel to my dog. I'm probably 1 of the nicest
6:29Speaker 1Good story. Come a long way, man. Been a freaking blessing. I know there's a lot of sober people that listen to this podcast. I know because we get a lot of the DMs. So that's
6:36Speaker 1our past. That's our story. But man, God is good because we have come a long way and we're sitting on our own podcast. How freaking rad. Promises are real.
6:45Speaker 1Today is as always 1 of our favorite episodes because it's the Q and A, we get a little touch of you all.
6:51Speaker 1So let's get into it. I always like to give you the honors. You always take the 1st question, so let's continue on that path and let's get into it. Alright. Question 1. How many peptides can 1 stack,
7:01Speaker 2and could we be sending too many signals at once? I'm currently on the following. Retta weekly, Tesamorelin
7:21Speaker 23 days. Kisspeptin every 2 days. PT-one hundred 41 every 3 days. L carnitine, I work out days.
7:28Speaker 2Just sharing my stat. But I've heard you answer questions for other listeners that are on a myriad of peptides, and I'm curious if we're sending way too many signals that compete or drop the efficacy of our peptides, or is this sustainable?
7:51Speaker 2Everything I say is just like the word word of God and golden, but here's what I think.
8:02Speaker 2too many things, but that is based on what these peptides, which kind of receptors or metabolic pathways that these specific receptors,
8:17Speaker 2I'd I see absolutely no problem with those. And so, like, there is no way there's not like signals are not getting mismatched
8:25Speaker 2because their peptides aren't doing the same thing. Right? You just don't wanna take any redundant
8:41Speaker 2dulled down because you're just they're competing for the same same signaling pathway. But what you're taking, cool. There is no problem. They literally will just enhance each other. Yeah.
9:17Speaker 2desensitized to it after a while. So that's why it's saying, hey, maybe 4 months and then take a couple week break or switch to a different secretagogue.
9:33Speaker 2cool. Every 2 days, that's fine. You can take that. You can frankly take that forever. All of this stuff actually can be sustainably taken forever because none of this
9:51Speaker 1you're totally looking good, man. Look at the reel that I posted today on my exact stack. I post that every couple months, just so people know exactly what I take.
10:10Speaker 1that would be something that would be silly. So something like that, like he said, if you're taking Sermorelin,
10:21Speaker 1My answer to that is you can take a lot if you want. A lot of it is contingent upon pocketbook.
10:31Speaker 1And I'm obviously seeing that you see that. So the answer is you can take a lot if you like it. If your pocketbook
11:09Speaker 1So basically I'm miserable and that sucks. I just began the Wolverine stack, but I also have Cartilax available.
11:35Speaker 1for workouts due to pain. Thanks. Man, I know. Oh, it sounds brutal. Man, I've lived some of that stuff. That type of pain, dude, is just, people don't even get it. It freaking is just
11:45Speaker 2brutal. Yeah. Yeah, it's brutal. What do wanna take down? We both had, I mean, hell, we both had back surgeries and
11:51Speaker 2I even So currently, so I had 2 bulging discs, like herniated discs out that were cutting into my sciatic nerve. And I had the surgery for that. After a year, the nerve finally kinda calmed down a little bit. And
12:08Speaker 2several months ago, man, I, I think I did something like that. I think I was doing bent over rows and
12:13Speaker 2it just put me down, like literally like bent. Like I wasn't moving and damn near, didn't get up for like 2 weeks.
12:21Speaker 2And I went to the doctor and got an- got a X-ray, MRI, and she told me, and I believe that
12:30Speaker 2is- sounded familiar, but basically I have not only- I mean, my discs are good. So those
12:42Speaker 2Okay. And my doctor said, I said, well, what can I do? And the doctor said, just don't lift weights
12:58Speaker 2Happening. But I have realized that I just, I literally can't do any bent over rows. I cannot
13:03Speaker 2do that hinge- Oh, bro. With weight. Brutal. That hinge, which I love to do, frankly, like good mornings,
13:12Speaker 2That was kind of 1 of my favorite things to do. That bent over rows where- Me too. Hinging at the waist, but I can't do that with I have a belt. Anyway,
13:27Speaker 2absolutely do it, okay? That is going to reduce inflammation. It's gonna promote a whole bunch of like angiogenesis,
13:40Speaker 2and lowering inflammation to them. Cardalax is interesting. Cardalax is a, bioregulator,
13:50Speaker 2it is basically like the foreman of the job site. So it is going to tell your body, like, how to rebuild that cartilage
14:01Speaker 2is it signaling like, let's build right there and how we build it better. So it's not bringing any new building materials to the party, right, like BPC and TB are. Well, TB is like bringing the workforce.
14:17Speaker 2to heal there also and is allowing your body to build to absorb way more collagen, create more collagen.
14:23Speaker 2So it's bringing the building materials. TB-five 100 is bringing the workforce. Cartilox is foremen telling them how to do their jobs better. Why does your body not know how to
14:32Speaker 2build cartilage really well? Well, age and stress. Okay? Our body just gets a little bit worse at everything as the older we get and the more stress we have. So I would 100%
14:47Speaker 2So if you're taking the other things, right, you might as well you really need to now give them extremely good direction
14:57Speaker 2It's not gonna I'm not gonna tell you, like, this is gonna heal everything, but that's your best chance. And it sounds like you're miserable, and I would just get after it. I would do what I can.
15:11Speaker 1Yeah. I he already summed that up. My experience with this, most have kind of followed my journey through my back surgery recently, and this
15:27Speaker 1And they actually took the hardware out of my back from the fusion, which I was a little bit worried about, but I chose a very, very good surgeon.
15:35Speaker 1And the reason I say that is this. I waited a long time to do the surgery because I was trying to not have another surgery.
15:43Speaker 1I was in so much freaking pain. You know, I got a good work ethic, so I was still coming to work. Will saw me, but I was not me. I was
15:57Speaker 1I'm going to tell you straight up my opinion on it. You know, we'll have a different opinion on it, but I'm pro surgery, man. Like, it's either you're going to fix your back and help it a little bit and or you're going be in pain the rest of your life. You know, these compounds are going to be great,
16:11Speaker 1but they're not going to fix those types of problems, dude. Like I was injecting a lot of the Wolverine when I had that nerve pain in my leg. It was freaking killing me, dude. I was just trying to find some peace for a few seconds. I was dying.
16:26Speaker 1I would say you look into having surgery and fixing some of the problems if that is possible. Get, you know, interviewed numerous surgeons in my opinions, because some people hit a baseball better, some people don't. So there's good surgeons and there's some that aren't so good. And they, that really does make a difference.
16:43Speaker 1Then after, if you do the surgery, you could blast it with a CarLax and more importantly that Wolverine and you will expedite your healing without a doubt.
16:52Speaker 1You know, but yeah, these compounds aren't going to heal you that big of a problem, dude. They might give you a little bit of peace, but
16:57Speaker 2it is what it is, man. So I would, I would look into having some surgery and fixing the problem, dude. Hope that helps. Yep. I'm pro surgery also. Yep. Maybe because I haven't had any like terrible- I haven't even had like great experiences. I had a surgery where they put metal mesh in my stomach for a hernia. And then when I woke up, they're like, oh, I guess you didn't have a hernia, but we still did that surgery. So,
17:18Speaker 2But still I am pro surgery. Like, dude, I don't know. Well That pain's brutal, man. Get out It'll it'll help you. I just won't just fix me. I'll take some some, you know,
17:34Speaker 2I'm not sure where, or when to post Q and A questions, but hopefully you find this. I'm 45 year old female.
17:45Speaker 23 0 5 pounds. I lost 80 pounds on keto and weight lifting 5 to 6 times a week. Damn. You girl. Then install,
17:56Speaker 2back and forth from 02:20 to 2 60 pounds for years. I found peptides through my doctor
18:02Speaker 2in October of last year, and finally the weight started coming off. Right? I'm on a balanced diet now, but don't,
18:09Speaker 2track. And I still weight lift in cardio 5 to 6 times a week. I'm taking RetUp 5 Migs on Friday, 5 Migs on Tuesday,
18:24Speaker 2That's awesome. And you're yeah. Especially for a female. It's just harder for you ladies to do that.
18:36Speaker 2I don't wanna get off Reta, super scared of the food noise and cravings. How do I titrate
18:49Speaker 1Good on you. It doesn't matter how you get there, you got there. You were talking about it in the beginning about like keto type diet,
18:57Speaker 1and then you fell off and then you gained some of the weight back, right? So the goal that every 1 of us should have is to make this a lifestyle
19:14Speaker 1help, but only if your diet is strict and in line. So that's going to be really the base of all of us. Will and I are the same way. So good on you.
19:27Speaker 1gaining that weight back, it's understandable, man. You have lost a lot of weight, man. I am so stoked for you.
19:33Speaker 1Know, in regards to the Red, you can take it for long periods. You know, that 10 is a lot. So definitely, would say start to, as you just said, titrate down.
19:42Speaker 1I would say, you know, we haven't talked about this 1, but I would say what, drop it like every couple of weeks, drop it a mg or maybe a 0.5
19:59Speaker 1I think you could, with a good diet and having a good living style, I think that you could be perfectly fine with maybe like
20:15Speaker 1As long as you keep that diet up, just that's, you gotta stay strict on the diet. I'm a huge carnivore guy, ketogenic
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20:51Speaker 1As long as you keep your diet in line, you should be fine bringing that down. Yeah. You're not as powerful as hell, man. It really is. Yeah.
20:59Speaker 2Well, here's the good thing is, like, you you did it the hard way, like, the you know, at the beginning. Like you've built some damn You built some real work ethic- Yeah. And lost a ton of weight,
21:14Speaker 2good for you. That should carry you- Literally almost a 100 pounds she did that Absolutely carry over and help you in this journey. Again, yes, like you said, it is about
21:29Speaker 2we all don't wanna do have to, you know, have any crutch at all. So good for you. But you don't necessarily need to come off. Okay? I don't know what the rush is to come off.
21:38Speaker 2But I, for sure, don't don't just stop cold turkey. Right? Absolutely wean down. What what JD said is is great. I would just play it by ear. There's 2 ways for you to wean down. It's either by gradually lowering
22:00Speaker 2right? Do that. Do what he said. You know, maybe 0.5 a milligram a week, you didn't, but, but hey, if you drop down and wow, the food noise is coming back, like there's no
22:10Speaker 2reason, nothing that says you can't bump back up or at least just stay there longer. Okay? And master that food noise. Right? Build your habits and go, okay, this this I can handle and still say no to, to food, right, at this level. And so you go until you feel-
22:48Speaker 2And then you can go just you can go at a real low dose. In fact, it's not even it is acceptable. Let's say you have
23:00Speaker 2I don't know, Christmas is coming up. You're going to vacation. You're like, damn. Everybody's gonna be eating, and I'm really, really worried about it. Cool. Do a little bit more. Okay? There's it's there's actually nothing wrong with you
23:09Speaker 2doing just, like, spot checking a little bit more for, you know, a short amount of time, okay, and then drop back down.
23:16Speaker 2I know people who do that and who are like, hey. I don't wanna I don't wanna drink this next week. All my friends are gonna be drinking, and they actually will will take a little bit more because it makes them not wanna drink and not be able to drink a bunch.
23:29Speaker 2you're on the right track. You just and keep lifting weights. Okay? What you do not wanna do is if you the less muscle you have, the slower your metabolism is. Okay?
23:39Speaker 2The more, you know, I'm six'four, 2 50, and I have a lot of muscle on me, so I don't really need to do cardio. In fact, when I don't eat very when I don't eat well, great, dude. My basal metabolic rate is so high. It's about 2,600
23:59Speaker 2at rest, not moving a single muscle just based on how much muscle I have. Okay? So that burns off a whole lot of bad food that I eat. Right? That makes me way more forgiving. So you're never gonna be the- the- you know, the size that I
24:15Speaker 2but you can have it necessary- have it equal to your body, right? So keep adding muscle, please. That will help your life. It'll make everything so much easier. It'll help the weight stay off, etcetera. Good job, girl. Keep going.
24:30Speaker 1Standing ovation, man. That is a lot of weight. Man, good on you. Good job. 62 year old, 180 pound male,
24:42Speaker 1Do you recommend taking a break for 4 to 6 weeks off after 12 weeks of Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin,
25:17Speaker 2So 1 option is to just take a straight up break. I'd say 4 weeks, okay, of- of not doing anything. Or,
25:31Speaker 2Yep. Okay. What you just thought is- is perfect. So yes, those are both very good ideas and you should do that. And then run that 1 for 12 weeks and then- then switch- switch back.
26:17Speaker 2I don't know. That's a personal preference. Totally fine to keep running them forever.
26:21Speaker 1Yeah. The glutathione is great. I wanna run that forever too. Probably NAD too. But, like, yeah, I mean, you got it, man. There's so many secretagogues.
26:34Speaker 1I just think they grow, they do amazing together if you're taking like 1 or 2 IUs of HGH in the morning. Then if you took a secretagog at night, you could change. There's so many different secretagogs
26:45Speaker 1that you could take, and you could just change them every 2 months, maybe every 3 months. You know, they work for quite a while.
26:53Speaker 1I think that you're, you know, at your age, I think it's great to do that. You could even throw in a GHK-
27:03Speaker 1we'll answer that. You're good to go, man. You can take these things for long periods. I plan on taking peptides forever, so they are amazing. So why would I stop? You know I mean? Yeah. I think you're up. Okay. Yeah. So, yep, I ordered SLU-three 32, and when I reconstituted it, it didn't dissolve very well in the backwater.
27:22Speaker 2I can still see the very small particles. Is that normal? I read online to use DMSO solution for SLU-two.
27:33Speaker 2Set up your alley on this 1. Yeah. Yeah. I would say do not use the DMSO. It's way too powerful. And, I mean, I think that you're referring to making like a skin salu so DMSO
27:44Speaker 2is a very strong and, like, unforgiving solvent. And oftentimes people will mix it and then put it on their skin. And so it allows everything to absorb into through your skin into your body. What the problem is it works way too well. Okay? So
28:09Speaker 2It is that strong that anything else that you might be dealing with, if you have your Windex, right, that you just sprayed
28:23Speaker 2That's an example. Right? But apply that to a whole bunch of different places. DMSO, I wouldn't do it. So yes, it is normal. So SLU-3P is hydrophobic.
28:31Speaker 2It's 1 of those that that really does not like water. And small particulates floating from the So basically you put in water and it's just not mix dissolving completely.
28:48Speaker 2inject it. Use it. It actually won't really affect the it it won't even affect the efficacy of the peptide.
28:55Speaker 2Now why did it do that? Yes. Yes, that's normal. But here's a couple strategies to help is,
29:01Speaker 21st of all, everybody I would suggest, and we've told you the opposite of this before in way, way past.
29:13Speaker 2I would mix that at room temp. 100%. Okay? So the water room temp, cool. Refrigerate your peptides. Right? Pull that out, but put room temp water in. Has anybody else,
29:31Speaker 2hell, lemonade, I don't know, into ice water, it doesn't mix very well. It's a lot harder to mix. Right? You're like, damn, I gotta keep stirring this thing. Right? Why isn't it mixing? Well, this
29:44Speaker 2your if you try to put really cold water into powder, it just does not mix very well. So warmer
29:54Speaker 2Worst case, you can even put the needle in there, draw a little bit of water, and just kinda gently just blow some water back in to get this thing to mix.
30:07Speaker 2swirl it like that, but it's normal. It won't affect it. Those are some suggestions, but I would absolutely
30:16Speaker 1Don't cold We at 1 time thought it was cold and we did that for years. I've mixed cold water in my HGH for a long time. And, you know, we are always works in progress. We are always studying and we, you know, a lot of people that are into this, this,
30:28Speaker 1area as well, and we improve. I mean, I think we've been saying warm water for about a year, give or take. But if you looked at the very beginning of the podcast,
30:36Speaker 1we talk differently. We always grow. So you didn't know, now you know. Warm, room temperature water. Keep my water
30:43Speaker 1out, you know, by my desk. Then when I mix it, there you go. But I used to keep it in the fridge. I no longer do that. There you go. And it didn't, for the most part, right, 90% of everything, it doesn't actually matter. Yeah. So 90% of the powder, like 90%
31:04Speaker 2yes, do it right. Also, try to add more water. There is nothing wrong. Like, let's say you put 2 mils in there, and it's like, damn, they're still particulates. Okay.
31:13Speaker 2take another mil of room temp water and put it in there. More water with less powder makes it
31:32Speaker 2milliliter per 10 units or however, it's pretty easy. There's peptide calculators everywhere that will just really help you out with that.
31:41Speaker 1SLU-1s that's what I prefer. And I'm an injectable guy, but the SLU-1s are my favorite. So maybe try that.
31:48Speaker 1All right. Hey guys, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I would like to know if any other peptides similar to GLP-1s
32:06Speaker 1I heard about a peptide in oral form that could help. I heard about a peptide in oral form that could hurt up.
32:16Speaker 1I'm assuming that's what you're talking about. Because I know without even asking you, think we're both going to say Tesofensine.
32:21Speaker 1We've actually done a cast on that. That 1 got dinged, actually. It got taken down from YouTube, we don't know why. So if you can't find it,
32:29Speaker 1you can find it on the podcast, the Apple, or the Spotify. But we did dig into Tesofensine
32:35Speaker 1and kind of went through that. Will loves it. I hate it. A lot of people use it in regards to that. It's good for appetite suppressant and things like that. My question would be, if your
32:47Speaker 1is driven from the fact where you think you're not going to be able to get the GLP-1s,
32:55Speaker 1laws changing and things like that. I don't know if that is where your question kind of came from, but I don't think you need to worry about that. I'm going to tell you Retta over Tesofensine 10 times out of 10, but there are people that love that Tesofensine, man. They just love it. So if you've never tried it, maybe give it a shot because it does
33:15Speaker 2help with appetite suppression quite a bit. Works in a little bit different way. So- I'm assuming that's what they're talking about, like an oral form. Yeah. I would think so. Yeah. Now, and Tesofensine is not a peptide. Let's just all be sure that we're clear on that, but whatever. So it's not a peptide, but absolutely it's a oral. It's like, it's basically a triple antidepressant.
33:38Speaker 2what they're doing is they're literally just slowing your digestion out and And so you,
33:45Speaker 2longer because you are. Right? Your food hasn't moved this far down the intestines. Right? It's only moved this far. So your brain goes, well, I'm still full. Yes, you are.
33:55Speaker 2Plus with semaglutide, gizepatide, the side effect is massive nausea. Well, more with semaglutide, and that really cuts down on food noise. Okay? Because if you think about eating and you wanna throw up, that sure makes you not wanna eat. Is anybody still doing semaglutide? No. No. But and and so we know, right, Glutide is gonna be really heavy on the
34:22Speaker 2a little bit less strong, and Retta, the least strong. But Retta is gonna be the best by double for actual
34:42Speaker 2works in a on your brain. It literally just basically tells you it's make your body your brain isn't looking for any dopamine spikes through food or any other pathways. Right? Because it's just making you feel essentially content.
34:56Speaker 2So you don't not and believe it or not, right, we're not always eating just for sustenance,
35:02Speaker 2for survival, right? We eat most of the time, frankly, especially at night or sweets, we're eating for brain happiness. A munchie. And Tesofensine
35:10Speaker 2like solves that problem. And it really does work. It works. I love it actually. It gives me good, clean energy,
35:17Speaker 2because it's increasing. It is a slight antidepressant. So it's giving you more dopamine, more motivation,
35:31Speaker 2I would try that. I love that stuff. He just dislikes it. It depends on your brain chemistry, how you react. You know? So not everybody is gonna is gonna love it.
35:50Speaker 2to put a force field around their opiate receptors, and it blocks those receptors from
35:58Speaker 2cravings for Well, it was developed It was actually developed for alcoholics, but, because they work on the same receptors. But
36:16Speaker 1and OVA. So even though like Reta, so you're talking about like some of the changing of cravings and whatnot. I don't know. I can't speak for Tesofensine because I've only taken it for 3 days and I hated it. But registry type will change some cravings. Not only can I tell you from this experience, but experience with hearing from numerous people? I don't know if the question is based upon that you don't want to inject,
36:37Speaker 1and that might be some of the basis of the question, you're just looking for an oral, so Tesofensine would fill that.
36:48Speaker 1They're out there, and we've talked about it. So they might be out there and coming, you know? So maybe you can look into that too, because GLP-1s will be in oral form. They are already, but not really widely. But,
37:06Speaker 2or show your core ab oblique workout routine. Doesn't just want to see you right now. They're talking about you.
37:18Speaker 1I actually was thinking YouTube was going to be where I chased after. And so I did HIIT trainings,
37:26Speaker 1And I have, if you scroll through my YouTube channel at the bottom, I have probably 35
37:38Speaker 1So you'll find that on there. And I have ab workouts that are not 1 single sit ups that, will rip your stomach. So there's oblique stuff in there. There's ab stuff in there. And, you know what I'll do? I'll actually post some of those on my Instagram
37:50Speaker 2and kind of bring them back to life so you guys can see that. There you go. Yep. Nice. All right. I got them up. Hey, guys. Just sharing my recent experience. Maybe it helps with data for the podcast.
38:02Speaker 21 mgs at 1 mgs a day. I've been managing well with water retention with clean diet, exercise, electrolytes, compression socks,
38:09Speaker 2all going well until I had a night out last night and had more than 1, just 1 glass of wine. What I usually do on weekends, let's just say, oh, I had a bottle of champagne.
38:21Speaker 2I was already with the worst crazy swelling legs and feet. It's really bad. Like I'd never seen them before. They got me scared just sharing this.
38:37Speaker 2Agreed. True. True. True story. Yep. That's very true. What you experience is not a random reaction.
38:45Speaker 2real storm of physiology. Like, that was I could yes. I can tell you that that is going to happen. Right? When we
38:59Speaker 2As you know from anybody looking at some like late stage alcoholic or some, you know, they're just bloated yeah. And
39:21Speaker 2in that hell if we're having but I will say, though, that the fact that just by taking Tesamorelin, you're already needing to wear compression socks,
39:30Speaker 2I wish they would have said their weight and their age. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would help. Like, I feel like
39:50Speaker 2that is just really attributing to water retention for you because because yeah. Just doing a mg of of Tesamorella, which is a decent which is a pretty darn good dose,
40:07Speaker 1But everybody's different. So it's like- Yeah, so like when you're gonna drink, if you say you're gonna do this on a weekend basis, just don't take the Tesamorelin during the weekend, for sure. That'll help. And, I would hydrate the hell out you, man. Drink a lot of,
40:20Speaker 1water with Celtic salt and just really get your body hydrated before you go out drinking. You're talking to 2 sober guys, man, maybe just cut out the drink. There's nothing, even though you're talking about 2 recovering drug addicts, alcohol is way worse than drugs, man. Alcohol is a doozy for your body, man. It just especially as you age, it is not good for your body. It does not like it. Yeah. I mean, hell, even though I like drugs more, I still had some I mean, I was
40:47Speaker 2there was some bad times. Like, I Of course. At 1 point, I had a job where I had to wear dress shoes and
40:55Speaker 0That 1st bite of your favorite sub followed by ice cold Pepsi. Add a couple of friends, and now that's next level. Suddenly, the laughs get louder, the stories keep flowing, and the food tastes better because Pepsi brings out more flavor, more fun, and more of the moment.
41:17Speaker 2I like towards the end, I couldn't even fit my feet in the dress shoes. Totally. Was just yeah. So
41:33Speaker 2yeah, that it's not that bad of a day. So you have to do you do these injections daily because it's so fast acting. And therefore, if you just don't do them, like, on Saturday, Sunday,
41:42Speaker 2it will get out of you considerably and not cause that water retention. So if you feel like drinking, maybe it's a good idea to just not do your do your injections. It's not the end of the world. You get back on them Monday.
41:56Speaker 2Mostly, like, really I mean, the only reason you really wanna do that is just to kind of save money. Like, that's a common,
42:01Speaker 2like, thing with HCG. It's like, oh, I need to do 5 days on, 2 days off. Why is that true? Like, no. That that serves absolutely no purpose other than
42:09Speaker 2elongating the HCG that you have and saving you a little bit of money. But daily is better. Let's do that. All right. You are.
42:18Speaker 1I'm up. All right. Hi, JD. This is the right place to send a question for Peptide of the Week. Yes, it is.
42:25Speaker 1If not, I apologize. My question is regarding the stack I have my husband on. He is 46 years old,
42:38Speaker 1Works 4 to 6 days workout 4 to 6 days a week. Diet is decent. Everybody says decent. It's Okay. Decent,
43:24Speaker 1And or testosterone. Okay. Well, that's a big jump. Thank you and Will for all that you guys are doing. I'm constantly listening to the podcast episodes on repeat and learn something new each time. You guys rock. Thank you for that. We love that, man. We are continuing to be blown away by everybody's kind words, and we love that stuff. So thank you for that. It means a lot to us. It really does.
43:55Speaker 145 is when you should be doing that. I would definitely say take both. I'm a big fan of taking both. I'm 48 years old. I take HGH in the morning.
44:04Speaker 1I take II IU. I don't ever go above that. I don't personally think that we need it. II IU is perfect.
44:15Speaker 1at night. I just, for the 1st time, I've never been a CJC Ipamorelin guy, but I just started that in the last month.
44:24Speaker 1right now. You can see it because I just posted something today that I'm running CJC Ipamorelin at night. So I take an HGH in the morning and then a secretagog at night, and I move the secretagogs around every 90 days or so.
44:42Speaker 1we just made a big jump because we're talking about peptides. Now we're talking about hormones.
44:49Speaker 1we need to get his blood work done. Where's his blood work? When it comes to testosterone,
44:56Speaker 1at, where his free testosterone's at, where his estrogen's at? Those are going to answer that. My opinion with working with both of us, hundreds and hundreds of men,
45:06Speaker 1most men, especially over 40, with a lot of the living styles, food that we eat, on and on and on, their testosterone levels have just absolutely plummeted to just scary levels. I'm assuming your husband would be like that,
45:23Speaker 1I would imagine his testosterone is going to be low. That 1 in particular will be a changing of his life. If he is non testosterone, has low testosterone in 3 weeks, he will feel like a different human,
45:48Speaker 1Where the levels should be, that's going to be between you and a doctor. I like to be around 900 give or take
45:55Speaker 1for my total test and give or take like 45 for my free test. Those are what I have seen with a lot of trial and error have worked
46:06Speaker 1and just constant energy throughout the day, but it's taken me a long time to know those numbers.
46:20Speaker 2You're like you you keep referring to, like, you're You're your like, that's awesome, man. You're, like, supportive. And, usually it's the husband like Take this, honey. Asking the wife, can I please take this?
46:30Speaker 2So good for you. That's that's badass. So the Tesamorelin at 45, I don't know. People are tripping. Like, that
46:37Speaker 2is so Makes no sense. Yeah. It makes no sense. Now maybe if so Tesamorelin tells your pituitary, your natural process to, hey, let's try it. Let's make more. Now Why would that be bad? Your now as we get older, if your natural process is, like, shot and not working at all,
47:03Speaker 2at 45 and you still my guess is that is not the case at all. Like, we're not at 45. Like, life isn't over. That is not when people's
47:21Speaker 2everybody's different, but for sure, at 45, I would, you know, get some- get a blood test. Put money on it. He should be over just, I know JD said, hey, if you're over 300, definitely do it. I would
47:39Speaker 2nanograms per deciliter, that's what we're looking for is the actual, like, blood test reading,
48:02Speaker 1we are, and NAD, those 3 together are just, they're gonna light a fire in his mitochondria, and they're going to really give him cellular energy. Those are great. I know we're big fan of And those the more weight he loses, so he needs to lose 40 to 50 pounds, like, good, Retta. Good. Did she say Retta in there? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Good. So good, Retta.
48:19Speaker 2Life is gonna just get better and better. The test is gonna work better and better the more weight he loses. Right? That's the that's the key. The problem is the more fat we have, the more estrogen we have, and the worse we feel and the less testosterone we have.
48:32Speaker 2And it's a vicious cycle that just keeps going like that until you actually do something drastic to change that cycle.
48:40Speaker 2it sounds like you're doing all, and I would let's go aggressive. You know? He's 45. He's got a whole 0.5 life to live. Yeah.
48:51Speaker 2Okay. Good stuff. Alright, guys. 1st, thank you for what you're doing. It's hard to sort through the BS these days, but you guys are the real deal, sharing your knowledge for the greater good.
49:00Speaker 2You're helping thousands of people you'll never know and for that you deserve whatever good fortune and good karma comes your way. Right back at you. I'm five'four.
49:16Speaker 2suits your core full body endurance, strength, and power. In the winter, I focus on gym work, which are mostly full body HIIT workouts. Sweet. This year, I'm dealing with debilitating
49:28Speaker 2Minor shoulder problems, nothing new, a meniscus pain in both knees. Had my right knee repaired last winter and left is currently asking for it. Shit. Last week, for the 1st time, I started 1 mg,
49:43Speaker 2g a week of the TB-five hundred in split doses. I'll run that for 6 weeks. During the riding season, I need endurance, power, and strength
49:55Speaker 2But fast muscle recovery is crucial. Joint repair will be needed as well. My dream stack, think, would be CJC-1.3 I'm Rellin with BPC- TB. But sadly, my budget's limited.
50:10Speaker 2which would you run and how much? I'm wondering if once I'm done with this 6 weeks of Wolverine,
50:21Speaker 21 GH with 1 of the Wolverine peptides to get both aspects working together? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
50:35Speaker 1I was, I continue to be blown away by that particular compound. I love the Wolverine. I think that, if that would probably be, if I had to choose 1, that would be the 1. There's some guys out there throwing out that blends don't work and all that stuff. Listen,
50:51Speaker 1You can take them separate if you want. You know, if you all have those guys that are saying that stuff, I would ask you, do they sell peptides?
50:58Speaker 1They make more money when they sell them separate, just so you know. I'm not accusing. I'm just saying maybe that's the case because I'm telling you with 100% certainty, with personal experience, the blends work.
51:16Speaker 1and there's no way in hell I'm not going to lift weights. It's just part of my life, And those help without a doubt. I used to not even be able to raise my arm above my shoulder until I started taking the Wolverine. So now both, I do even dumbbell
51:32Speaker 1incline presses. I've never had done those in years. And that's because of the Wolverine,
51:38Speaker 1like I've talked about numerous times, I've had back surgeries. So what I'm trying to do to stay ahead of the curve with that is I am injecting the Wolverine in my back.
51:47Speaker 1Sometimes I'll do the Tri Hill because it has more TB, you know, and, that does a lot more, I think, in longevity in regards to the stem cells and whatnot. But anyways,
51:58Speaker 1in my back, I'm doing it on a daily basis just to try to maybe stay ahead of the curve. And I don't want to have another surgery, obviously.
52:11Speaker 1I think that you can take them. You sound like you're like us. You're going to work out till the day you die. It's your lifestyle.
52:17Speaker 1I can tell by how you're questioning and what you wrote in there, right? I love it. So you don't need to take them for only 6 weeks, especially those 2, the BPC and the TB-five
52:29Speaker 1As we age, man, take them forever. So you don't need to do that. Now, when it comes to the secretagogue,
52:37Speaker 1you know, just like testosterone, our body doesn't make as much growth hormone. So like I've answered in other questions, I would even take actual, like, somatropin in the morning, like actual HGH.
53:07Speaker 2To answer that, I think I've got that. Yep. What do you what's your take? So the main question, dude, I don't know. You said
53:12Speaker 2budget's tight, which should I choose? Okay. So 1st 1 was like, do I should I what would you do in season?
53:23Speaker 2Wolverine. I would do the Wolverine. 100%. I just know my body. Like, if I am if I am recovering
53:38Speaker 2if you're in that much pain, there's certain things you just are not performing. I'm sorry. It's it's just not gonna happen
53:52Speaker 2aren't as great to nearly outweigh the effect that, yeah, the no inflammation and less pain would give you. K?
54:01Speaker 2So that's what I would do. I wish you had more money so you could do both because I absolutely would do both. Then, you know, I guess I would,
54:08Speaker 2yeah, safely do those. I'd probably rather take real HGH when you do, put in the CGC 12 95 IPA.
54:34Speaker 2yeah, keep going. How's your testosterone? Yeah. You don't, if you're not taking tests and you're 54, like, that'll help. For you as an endurance athlete, you're gonna wanna take a, like, a very small amount, right, to stay lean and and and have good endurance,
54:50Speaker 1but it'll help a lot. You got it. Good stuff. Alright. Take us home, big dog. Last reconstituting
54:56Speaker 2AOD, which I've done numerous times. I utilize acetic acid backwater. During my last reconstitution,
55:01Speaker 2mix sure ever so slightly gelled up on a subsequent day, but it promptly returned to its liquid state after being vigorously rolled in the palms. Are there any other recommendations regarding the temperature of the AA backwater?
55:12Speaker 2Yes. There you go. Such as cold or room temp. What would be beneficial? Additionally, is it acceptable to run the AOD after this reconstitution?
55:38Speaker 2priority 1 is room temp water. K? Acetic acid backwater, good for you. That is exactly what you should be using with
55:50Speaker 2you know, still be you should be mixing around rolling rolling AOD in daily, and you should be using it pretty fast. You can't even you really can't even expect to mix even the acetic acid backwater
56:05Speaker 25 mg last a month. Okay? It's just not gonna stay in a liquid form for that long. So use it, and use it as you're supposed to, which makes it be gone on a couple weeks.
56:18Speaker 2All right? That is awesome. And it's awesome. And, oh, yeah, absolutely. It's a 100% safe to use now.
56:23Speaker 2If it had a little gelling problem, you got it to ungel, go ahead. Use it. Great. I do it all the time. No problem whatsoever.
56:29Speaker 2Even if it was gelled, let's say, let's say there was a little bit of gel at the bottom, right, use all the liquid.
56:35Speaker 2I always do Do it. It so many times. Don't care. It's not gonna be bad for you at all. It'll work.
57:01Speaker 2Semax is a will give you energy. It will give you more energy and clarity of thought, whereas Selank
57:07Speaker 2will actually give you clarity of thought, but a little bit more relaxed calm without, like, not drooling on yourself sleepy calm, right, not a Xanax calm, but that is but that's the goal. Right? So you can still perform.
57:20Speaker 2I wouldn't go in some high level competition and do a bunch of Selank right before, okay, because it may slow you down a little bit, but for the average person.
57:40Speaker 2And I don't really want to yeah. They actually just enhance each other in a really- So MOTS-thirty
57:46Speaker 11, like they work well separately, but they just, some of them work better in tandem. So I think those 2, in my opinion, work better. Absolutely.
58:20Speaker 1Good stuff. If you try it, let us know. We'd like to know how you do with it. Yeah, absolutely. Perfect, man. I have a doctor's appointment to go to, so we are good to go. Anything else before we get out of here? We gotta get this edited and out because it's Yeah. Gonna We're gonna drop it today. Anything else? No. All right. Leave us some comments, shoot us some DMs. We gotta record on Friday,
58:38Speaker 1the Peptide of the Week for Monday. Give us some ideas of what you want us to talk about. And the following week, we're gonna have our 1st doctor who is a TRT doctor.
58:46Speaker 1We definitely have, I think, some different opinions on some AI stuff, so it's gonna be a good conversation.
58:52Speaker 1It's gonna be a good conversation. We're gonna be a TRT doctor on and talk about TRT and some AIs and stuff like that. That's 2 weeks from now. Cool. Cool? Right on. All right, guys. We'll catch you on the next 1. Thanks, Al. Take care.