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0:39Speaker 1What is up everybody? Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week Podcast. I'm your host, JD Denham, right next to me and my buddy, my co host William T. Haas. Welcome back. We should have done this yesterday, but we're doing it today. Doing it today. This week has been a little bit of some technical difficulties as we get the podcast room up to par. It's taken, like, there's a couple curveballs
1:01Speaker 1that have been thrown at us, but we are here. We're doing it a little late for the 2nd time of the week, but we will be more back We're doing it to our more,
1:13Speaker 1Ain't that the truth? That's how things work. Luckily, we have some people that are smarter than us helping us.
1:19Speaker 1You're actually good at tech though. Yeah. So I'll give you that. Me neither. Not so much. But it's been a mix of, yes, construction
1:30Speaker 1work as it's supposed to. I always just like try to find perspective, man. We're sitting in our own podcast room. Laugh's pretty damn cool. The life's cool.
1:38Speaker 1Love Life is cool. We never would have thought, but here we are, man. What a cool thing life is. Well, so a little side life side note here, like, you know, you just took 6 years of sobriety. And on Sunday I take 15.
1:55Speaker 1the promises they talk about in Alcoholics Anonymous, not to talk about Alcoholics Anonymous because it's anonymous, but they're
2:02Speaker 1real dude. They are real. When you give back to people, when you, you know, 1 of my favorite quotes from my sponsor was great men help other men succeed.
2:09Speaker 1Man, when you do that, it pays dividends, baby. We're living proof. I mean, yeah. Have the work ethic to back it up. Yeah, but no, you really got the work ethic.
2:26Speaker 0I did lots of uppers in my day to have better work ethic, right? So I could work my ass off, right, 18 hours a day just to make a bunch of money and then spend
2:37Speaker 0it all again on drugs to fuel me to work 18 hours and then ended up 5 years later going-
2:47Speaker 0I almost would've been better off just playing video games all day long and But doing absolutely
3:03Speaker 0That is when you- I mean, the Bible says it, right? Like, give and you shall receive, right? Like, that's when you actually start
3:10Speaker 1getting any gifts, right? The cool thing is tangible things, everybody wants them. You do get some tangible stuff, right? You just- you know, everybody wants pretty things. But the things that are priceless are peace of mind, contentment, serenity.
3:28Speaker 1you're full of anxiety, you're full of stress, you're full of like, that's your subconscious screaming at you that you're not living up to your potential and you're
3:37Speaker 1falling out of line of God's order and everything's just chaos. So when you get things in line and you help people
3:49Speaker 1We both not had that. Now we have it now, and it's priceless, dude. It is priceless, 100%. That's what keeps you I know that I can speak for both of us because I know you well. I mean, that is,
4:00Speaker 1something that kind of keeps us in line to a degree because, man, we've seen people that fall away from,
4:06Speaker 1you know, starting to cut corners and stuff like that, and they start to lose that piece. And all of a sudden, man, they got a bottle in their hand again. Absolutely. Awesome. And I mean, all of these lessons that we learned, like,
4:22Speaker 0faced with a decision, we have to stop and think and go- What's Integra- What is the absolute, like, right thing to do despite
4:40Speaker 0Looking at them. Because you're yeah. Because, I mean, you're not having to, like, I don't know, struggle with
4:46Speaker 0with these decisions. You just go, well, that's the So right thing to like, that's what we're gonna do. And I don't even and there is no debate to that. And that's just, that's how we move forward. I don't care how harmful it is to me,
5:00Speaker 1much of a pain in the ass it is, but true that. We're doing it. Well, cool, man. Well, happy 6 to you in a couple days. Happy 15 to me. And,
5:12Speaker 1he didn't see my last day, but I did see his last day when he was running amok and, he ran his truck into a wall.
5:24Speaker 1done a lot, man. It's been a blessing. I guess the 1st day of sobriety was in jail, but, um-
5:41Speaker 0And luckily I woke up. And then I went to jail. The dog went to jail. And my man, like, that was the worst thing about it, to be honest, was just trying to get out so I could go get him. And I did. And of course, he's a big dog that is
5:55Speaker 0doesn't play well with others when he's scared. And so they had and when I finally, like, figured out where he was, because it was so hard to just to get any answers.
6:04Speaker 0Yeah, he was in like solitary confinement with a muzzle on. Oh, wow. Yeah, I felt bad. Had to catch an Uber.
6:10Speaker 0Had like 3 Ubers come. Because you can get, you can have dogs in Uber. It's just up to the driver. I had 3 Uber drivers come, look at us. I'm like, nope. Really? Just drive away. Yeah.
6:21Speaker 0But finally, we got him back. And I mean, to be honest, like, you're really I'm not cruel to my dog. I'm probably 1 of the nicest
6:32Speaker 1Good story. Come a long way, man. Been a freaking blessing. I know there's lot of sober people that listen to this podcast. I know because we get a lot of the DMs. So that's our past. That's our story. But man, God is good because we have come a long way and we're sitting on our own podcast. How freaking rad. Promises are real.
6:48Speaker 1Today is as always 1 of our favorite episodes because it's the Q and A, we get a little touch of you all.
6:54Speaker 1So let's get into it. I always like to give you the honors. You always take the 1st question, so let's continue on that path and let's get into it. Right. Question 1. How many peptides can 1 stack,
7:05Speaker 0and could we be sending too many signals at once? I'm currently on the following. ARADA weekly, Tesamorelin nightly,
7:23Speaker 0every 3 days. Kisspeptin every 2 days. PT-one 41 every 3 days. L carnitine, I work out days.
7:31Speaker 0Just sharing my stat. But I've heard you answer questions for other listeners that are on a myriad of peptides, and I'm curious if we're sending way too many signals that compete or drop the efficacy of our peptides,
7:54Speaker 0everything I say is just like the word of- word of God golden, but here's what I think.
8:05Speaker 0too many things, but that is based on what these peptides, which kind of receptors or metabolic pathways that these specific receptors,
8:20Speaker 0I'd I see absolutely no problem with those. And so like, there is no way there's not like signals are not getting mismatched because their peptides aren't doing the same thing. Right? You just don't wanna take any redundant
8:44Speaker 0dulled down because you're just they're competing for the same same signaling pathway. But what you're taking, cool. There is no problem. They literally will just enhance each other. Yeah.
9:20Speaker 0desensitized to it after a while. So that's why it's saying, hey, maybe 4 months and then take a couple week break or switch to a different secretagogue.
9:36Speaker 0cool. Every 2 days, that's fine. You can take that. You can frankly take that forever. All of this stuff actually can be sustainably taken forever because none of this,
9:54Speaker 1totally looking good, man. Look at the reel that I posted today on my exact stack. I post that every couple months just so people know exactly what I take.
10:13Speaker 1that would be something that would be silly. So something like that. Like he said, if you're taking Sermorelin,
10:24Speaker 1My answer to that is you can take a lot if you want. A lot of it is contingent upon pocketbook.
10:35Speaker 1And I'm obviously seeing that you see that. So the answer is you can take a lot if you like it. If your Pocketbook
11:12Speaker 1So basically I'm miserable and that sucks. I just began the Wolverine stack, but I also have Cartilax available.
11:38Speaker 1for workouts due to pain. Thanks. Man, oh, it sounds brutal. Man, I've lived some of that stuff. That type of pain, dude, is just- don't even get it. It freaking is just
11:48Speaker 0brutal. Yeah, brutal. What do you wanna take We both had, I mean, hell, we both had back surgeries and
11:54Speaker 0I even, so currently, so I had 2 bulging discs, like herniated discs out that were cutting into my sciatic nerve. And I had the surgery for that. After a year, the nerve finally kinda calmed down a little bit. And
12:11Speaker 0several months ago, man, I, I think I did something like that. I think I was doing bent over rows and
12:17Speaker 0it just put me down, like literally like bent. Like I wasn't moving and the arm didn't get up for like 2 weeks.
12:24Speaker 0And I went to the doctor and got an- got a X-ray, MRI, and she told me, and I believe that
12:32Speaker 0the arthrosis is- sounded familiar, but basically I have not only- I mean, my discs are good. So those
12:45Speaker 0Okay. And my doctor said, I said, well, what can I do? And the doctor said, just don't lift weights
13:01Speaker 0happening. But I have realized that I just, I literally can't do any bent over rows. I cannot do that hinge- Oh, bro. With weight- Brutal. That hinge, which I love to do, frankly, like good mornings,
13:16Speaker 0That was kinda 1 of my favorite things to do. Bent over rows. Me too. Hinging at the waist, but I can't do that with I have a belt. No way. Anyway,
13:30Speaker 0absolutely do it, okay? That is going to reduce inflammation. It's gonna promote a whole bunch of like angiogenesis,
13:43Speaker 0and lowering inflammation to them. Cardalax is interesting. Cardalax is a, bioregulator,
13:53Speaker 0it is basically like the foreman of the job site. So it is going to tell your body, like, how to rebuild that cartilage
14:01Speaker 0better. Right. Than it. And- is it signaling like, yo, let's build right there. And how do we build it better? So it's not bringing any new building materials to the party, right, like BPC and TB are. Well, TB is like bringing the workforce.
14:17Speaker 0BPC is signaling to heal there also and is allowing your body to build to absorb way more collagen, create more collagen.
14:26Speaker 0So it's bringing the building materials. TB-five hundred is bringing the workforce. Cartilax is foreman telling them how to do their jobs better. Why does your body not know how to build cartilage really well? Well, both age and stress. Okay? Our body just gets a little bit worse at everything as the older we get and the more stress we have. So I would 100%
14:50Speaker 0So if you're taking the other things, right, you might as well you really need to now give them extremely good
15:00Speaker 0It's not gonna I'm not gonna tell you, like, this is gonna heal everything, but that's your best chance. And it sounds like you're miserable, and I would just get after it. I would do what I can.
15:14Speaker 1Yeah, I He already summed that up. My experience with this, most have kind of followed my journey through my back surgery recently, and this
15:24Speaker 1was my 5th. I had 3 microdiscectomies and then a fusion, and then I finally just did another microdiscectomy
15:30Speaker 1And they actually took the hardware out of my back from the fusion, which I was a little bit worried about, but I chose a very, very good surgeon.
15:38Speaker 1And the reason I say that is this. I waited a long time to do the surgery because I was trying to not have another surgery.
15:46Speaker 1I was in so much freaking pain. You know, I got a good work ethic, so I was still coming to work. Will saw me, but I was not me.
16:00Speaker 1I'm going to tell you straight up my opinion on it. You know, we'll have a different opinion on it, but I'm pro surgery, man. Like, it's either you're going to fix your back and help it a little bit and or you're going to in pain the rest of your life. You know, these compounds are going to be great,
16:14Speaker 1but they're not going to fix those types of problems, dude. Like I was injecting a lot of the Wolverine when I had that nerve pain in my leg. It was freaking killing me, dude. I was just trying to find some peace for a few seconds. I was dying.
16:31Speaker 1surgery and fixing some of the problems if that is possible. Get, you know, interviewed numerous surgeons in my opinions, because some people hit a baseball better, some people don't. So there's good surgeons and there's some that aren't so good.
16:46Speaker 1Then after, if you do the surgery, you could blast it with a CarLax and more importantly that Wolverine and you will expedite your healing without a doubt.
16:55Speaker 1You So, know, but yeah, these compounds aren't gonna heal you that big of a problem, dude. And they might give you a little bit of peace, but
17:00Speaker 0it is what it is, man. So I would, I would look into having some surgery and fixing the problem, dude. Hope that helps. Yep. I'm pro surgery also. Yep. Maybe because I haven't had any like terrible Actually, I haven't, I haven't even had like great experiences. I had a surgery where they put metal mesh in my stomach for a hernia. And then when I woke up, they're like, oh, I guess you didn't have a hernia, but we still did that surgery.
17:21Speaker 0but still I am prosurgery. Like, dude, I don't know. Well That pain's brutal, man. Get out It'll it'll help you. I just won't fix me. I'll take some some, you know,
17:37Speaker 03. I'm not sure where or when to post Q and A questions, but hopefully you find this. I'm 45 year old female.
17:45Speaker 0I started my weight loss journey in 20 17, 3 0 5 pounds. Lost 80 pounds on keto and weight lifting 5 to 6 times a week. Damn. You girl. Then install-
17:59Speaker 0Jumped back and forth from 2 20 to do 60 pounds for years. I found peptides through my doctor
18:05Speaker 0in October of last year, and finally the weight started coming off. Right? I'm on a balanced diet now, but don't,
18:12Speaker 0track. And I still weight lift and cardio 5 to 6 times a week. I'm taking RetUp 5 Migs on Friday, 5 Migs on Tuesday,
18:28Speaker 0That's awesome. And you're, yeah, especially for a female. It's just harder for you ladies to do that.
18:39Speaker 0I don't wanna get off Retta. Super scared of the food noise and cravings. How do I titrate
18:52Speaker 1Good on you. It doesn't matter how you get there, you got there. You were talking about it in the beginning about a keto type diet,
19:00Speaker 1and then you fell off and then you gained some of the weight back, right? So the goal that every 1 of us should have is to make this a lifestyle
19:17Speaker 1help, but only if your diet is strict and in line. So that's going to be really the base of all of us. Will and I are the same way.
19:30Speaker 1gaining that weight back, it's understandable, man. You have lost a lot of weight, man. I am so stoked for you. You know, in regards to the Retta, you can take it for long periods. You know, that 10 mg is a lot. So So definitely, I would say start to, as you just said, titrate down.
19:45Speaker 1I would say, you know, we haven't talked about this 1, but I would say what, drop it like every couple of weeks, drop it a mg or maybe a 0.5
20:02Speaker 1I think you could, with a good diet and having a good living style, I think that you could be perfectly fine with maybe like
20:21Speaker 1gotta stay strict on the diet. I'm a huge carnivore guy, ketogenic type guy. You've done that. You've obviously had luck with it.
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21:00Speaker 1As as you keep your diet in line, you should be fine bringing that down. Yeah. You're not as powerful as hell, man. It really is. Yeah.
21:07Speaker 0Well, here's the good thing is like you, you did it the hard way, like the, you know, at the beginning. So like you've built some damn You built some real work ethic and lost a ton of weight, you know, doing-
21:23Speaker 0good for you. That should carry over. Literally almost 100 pounds she did that Absolutely carry
21:27Speaker 0over and help you in this journey. Again, yes, like you said, it is about building habits.
21:32Speaker 0So how should you tie and I guess okay, cool. You wanna do less. Like, we all we all don't wanna do have to, you know, have any crutch at all. So good for you. But you don't necessarily need to come off. Okay? I don't know what the rush is to come off.
21:47Speaker 0But I, for sure, don't don't just stop cold turkey. Right? Absolutely wean down. What JD said is great. I would just play it by ear. There's 2 ways for you to wean down. It's either by gradually lowering the milligram
22:09Speaker 0right? Do that. Do what he said. You know, maybe 0.5 a milligram a week, you didn't but hey, if you drop down and wow, the food noise is coming back, like there's no
22:18Speaker 0reason, nothing that says you can't bump back up or at least just stay there longer. Okay? And master that food noise, right? Build your habits and go, okay, this is- this I can handle and still say no to to food, right, at this level. And so you go until you feel
22:56Speaker 0Yeah. And then you can go just you can go at a real low dose. In fact, it's not even it it is acceptable. Let's say you have
23:08Speaker 0I don't know, Christmas is coming up. You're going to vacation. You're like, damn. Everybody's gonna be eating, and I'm really, really worried about it. Cool. Do a little bit more. Okay? There's it's there's actually nothing wrong with you
23:18Speaker 0doing just, like, spot checking a little bit more for, you know, a short amount of time, k, and then drop back down.
23:24Speaker 0I know people who do that and who are like, hey. I don't wanna I don't wanna drink this next week. All my friends are gonna be drinking, and they actually will will take a little bit more because it makes them not wanna drink and not be able to drink a bunch.
23:38Speaker 0you're on the right track. You just and and keep lifting weights. Okay? What you do not wanna do is if you the less muscle you have, the slower your metabolism is. Okay? The more you know, I'm six'four, 2 50, and I have a lot of muscle on me, So I don't really need to do cardio. In fact, if when I don't eat very when I don't eat well, great, dude. My my basal metabolic rate is so high. My it's about 2,600
24:01Speaker 0calories in any 24 hour period if I was in a coma. Alright? So 2,600 calories my body burns
24:07Speaker 0at rest, not moving a single muscle just based on how much muscle I have. Okay? So that burns off a whole lot of bad food that I eat. Right? That makes me way more forgiving. So you're never gonna be the,
24:24Speaker 0but you can have it necessary- have it equal to your body, right? So keep adding muscle, please.
24:31Speaker 0That will help your life. It'll make everything so much easier. It'll help the weight stay off, etcetera. Good job, girl. Keep going.
24:38Speaker 1Standing ovation, man. That is a lot of weight. Man, good on you. Good job. 62 year old, 180
25:16Speaker 0I would say a I don't know. Hey, 4 to 6 weeks might be a little bit a little bit conservative.
25:26Speaker 0So 1 option is to just take a straight up break. I'd say 4 weeks, okay, of- of not doing anything. Or,
25:40Speaker 0Okay? What you just thought is- is perfect. So, yes, those are both very good ideas, and you should do that. And then run that 1 for 12 weeks and then- then switch- switch back.
26:25Speaker 0I don't know. That's a personal preference. Totally fine to keep running them forever.
26:29Speaker 1Yeah. The glutathione is great. I wanna run that forever too. Probably NAD too, but like, yeah, I mean, you got it, man. You there's so many secretagogues.
26:43Speaker 1I just think they grow, they do amazing together if you're taking like 1 or 2 IUs of HGH in the morning. And then if you took a secretagog at night, you could change. There's so many different secretagogs that you could take, and you could just change them every 2 months, maybe every 3 months. You know, they work for quite a while. NAD,
27:01Speaker 1I think that you're, you know, at your age, I think it's great to do that. You could even throw in a GHK-
27:07Speaker 1Skin, hair, nails, that would be a good addition to what you're running there. But we'll answer that. You're good to go, man. You can take these things for long periods. I plan on taking peptides forever, so they are amazing. So why would I stop? You know I mean? Yeah.
27:22Speaker 0I think you're up. Okay. Yep. So, yep, I ordered SLU- 32, and when I reconstituted it, it didn't dissolve very well in the backwater.
27:31Speaker 0I can still see the very small particles. Is that normal? I read online they use DMSO solution for SLU-.
27:41Speaker 0Set up your alley on this 1. Yeah, yeah. I would say do not use the DMSO, dude. It's way too powerful. And, I mean, I think that you're referring to making like a skin salute. So DMSO
27:52Speaker 0is a very strong and, like, unforgiving solvent. And oftentimes people will mix it and then put it on their skin. And so it allows everything to absorb into through your skin into your body. Well, the problem is it works way too well. Okay? So
28:17Speaker 0It is that strong that anything else that you might be dealing with, if you have your Windex, right, that you just sprayed and it's still sitting next to you, I worry about that Windex
28:31Speaker 0That's an example. Right? But apply that to a whole bunch of different places. DMSO, I wouldn't do it. So yes, it is normal. So SLU-3P is hydrophobic.
28:42Speaker 0And small particulates floating from the So basically, you put in water and it's just not mix dissolving completely.
28:56Speaker 0inject it. Use it. It actually won't really affect the it it won't even affect the efficacy of the peptide.
29:04Speaker 0Now why did it do that? Yes, yes, that's normal, but here's a couple strategies to help is,
29:09Speaker 01st of all, everybody I would suggest, and we've told you the opposite of this before in way, way past.
29:21Speaker 0I would mix that at room temp. 100%. Okay? So the water room temp, cool. Refrigerate your peptides. Right? Pull that out, but put room temp water in. Has anybody else
29:45Speaker 0It's a lot harder to mix. Right? You're like, damn, I gotta keep stirring this thing. Right? Why isn't it mixing? Well, this
29:53Speaker 0your if you try to put really cold water into powder, it just does not mix very well. So
30:03Speaker 0Worst case, you can even put the needle in there, draw a little bit of water, and just kinda gently just blow some water back in to get this thing to mix.
30:16Speaker 0swirl it like that, but it's normal. It won't affect it. Those are some suggestions, but I would absolutely
30:25Speaker 1Don't put We at 1 time thought it was cold and we did that for years. I've mixed cold water in my HGH for a long time. And, you know, we are always works in progress. We are always studying, and we, you know, a lot of people that are into this, this,
30:37Speaker 1area as well, and we improve. I mean, I think we've been saying warm water for about a year, give or take. But if you looked at the very, very beginning of the podcast,
30:44Speaker 1we talk differently. We always grow. So you didn't know. Now you know. Warm, room temperature water. Keep my Room temperature water. Keep my water out, you know, by my desk. Then when I mix it, there you go. But I used to keep it in the fridge. I no longer do that. There you go. And it didn't, and it, and for the most part, right, 90% of everything, it doesn't actually matter. Right? 90% of the powder- still mixing well. 90% of these just mixed perfectly. Cold,
31:13Speaker 0yes, do it right. Also, try to add more water. There's nothing wrong. Like, let's say you put 2 mils in there, and it's like, damn, they're still particulates. Okay.
31:21Speaker 0Then take another mil of room temp water and put it in there. More water with less powder makes it
31:40Speaker 0milliliter per 10 units or however? It's pretty easy. There's peptide calculators everywhere that would just really help you out with that. Yep.
31:50Speaker 1SLU-3. That's what I prefer. And I'm an injectable guy, but the SLU-3. Sublinguals are my favorite. So maybe try that. All right. Hey guys, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I would like to know if any other peptides similar to GLP-1s
32:07Speaker 1food cravings, and facilitate a good, healthy diet. I don't want to lose more fat, but I'm struggling to keep a good diet.
32:15Speaker 1I heard about a peptide in oral form that could help. I heard about a peptide in oral form that could hurt up.
32:24Speaker 1I'm assuming that's what you're talking about. Because I know without even asking you, I think we're both gonna say, Tesofensine.
32:30Speaker 1We've actually done a cast on that. That 1 got dinged, actually. It got taken down from YouTube, and we don't know why. So if you can't find it,
32:38Speaker 1you can find it on the podcast, the Apple, or Spotify. But we did dig into Tesofensine
32:43Speaker 1and kind of went through that. Will loves it. I hate it. A lot of people use it in regards to that. It's good for appetite suppressant and things like that. My question would be, if your question is
33:03Speaker 1laws changing and things like that. You know, I don't know if that is where your question kind of came from, but I don't think you need to worry about that. I'm going to tell you Retta over Tesofensine 10 times out of 10, but there are people that love that Tesofensine, man. They just love it. So if you've never tried it, maybe give it a shot because it does does help with appetite suppression quite a It works in a little bit different way. So- I'm assuming that's what they're talking about, like an oral form. Yeah. Anticipantsine is I would oral think so. Yeah. Now, and Tesofensine is not a peptide. Let's just all be sure
33:38Speaker 0So it's not a peptide, but absolutely it's a oral it's like, it's basically a triple antidepressant.
33:47Speaker 0what they're doing is they're literally slowing your digestion up or down. And so you,
33:54Speaker 0longer because you are. Right? Your food hasn't moved this far down the intestines. Right? It's only moved this far. So your brain goes, well, I'm still full. Yes, you are.
34:04Speaker 0Plus with semaglutide, tirzepatide, the side effect is massive nausea. Well, more with semaglutide, and that really cuts down on food noise. Okay? Because if you think about eating and you wanna throw up, that sure makes you not wanna eat.
34:15Speaker 0Is anybody still doing semaglutide? No. No. But and and so we know, right, semaglutide is gonna be really heavy on the
34:30Speaker 0a little bit less strong and Retta, the least strong. But Retta is gonna be the best by double for actual
34:50Speaker 0works in a on your brain. It literally just basically tells you it's make your body your brain isn't looking for any dopamine spikes through food or any other pathways. Right? It's because it's just making you feel essentially content.
35:05Speaker 0you're not- And believe it or not, right, we're not always eating just for sustenance,
35:10Speaker 0for survival, right? We eat- most of the time, frankly, especially at night or sweets, we're eating for brain happiness. A munchie. And Tesofensine
35:19Speaker 0like solves that problem. And it really does work. It works. I love it actually. It gives me good, good, clean energy,
35:26Speaker 0because it's increasing. It is a slight antidepressant. So it's giving you more dopamine, more motivation,
35:39Speaker 0I would try that. I love that stuff. He just dislikes it. It depends on your brain chemistry, how you react. You know? So not everybody is gonna
35:58Speaker 0to put a force field around their opiate receptors, and it blocks those receptors from
36:24Speaker 1and- So even though like Retta, so you're talking about like some of the changing of cravings and whatnot. I don't know. I can't speak for Tesofensine because I've only taken it for 3 days and I hated it. But, Retatrutide will change some cravings. Not only can I tell you from this experience, but experience with hearing from numerous people? I don't know if the question is based upon that you don't want to inject,
36:46Speaker 1and that might be some of the basis of the question, you're just looking for an oral, so Tesofensine would fill that.
36:56Speaker 1They're out there, and we've talked about it. So they might be out there and coming, you know? So maybe you can look into that too, because GLP-1s will be in oral form. They are already, but not really widely.
37:30Speaker 1I chased after. And so I did HIIT trainings like 2 a week. And I have, if you scroll through my YouTube channel at the bottom, I have probably 35
37:42Speaker 1and about 6 or 7 of them might be like a 10 to 15 minute ab workout. So you'll find that on there. And I have ab workouts that are not 1 single sit ups that, will rip your stomach. So there's oblique stuff in there. There's ab stuff in there. And, you know what I'll do? I'll actually post some of those on my Instagram
37:59Speaker 0and kinda bring them back to life so you guys can see that. There you go. Yep. Nice. Alright. I Hey, got them guys. Just sharing my recent experience. Maybe it helps with data for the podcast.
38:11Speaker 01 mgs at 1 mg a day. I've been managing well with water retention with clean diet, exercise, electrolytes, compression socks,
38:18Speaker 0all going well until I had a night out last night and had more than 1, just 1 glass of wine. What I usually do on weekends. Let's just say, oh, I had a bottle of champagne. And
38:31Speaker 0with the worst crazy swelling legs and feet. It's really bad. Like I've never seen them before. They got me scared. Just sharing this
38:47Speaker 0True story. True. Yep. That's very true. What you experience is not a random reaction. Right? This is a like
38:53Speaker 0real storm of physiology. Like, that was I could yes. I can tell you that that is going to happen. Right? When we
39:08Speaker 0As you know from anybody looking at some, like, late stage alcoholic or some, you know, they're just bloated and
39:29Speaker 0and that if we're having but I will say, though, that the fact that just by taking Tesamorelin, you're already needing to wear compression socks,
39:50Speaker 0that water retention so hard. Now maybe I got you wrong, but but you may have something else going on
39:58Speaker 0that is just really attributing to water retention for you because because, yeah, Just doing a mg of of Tesamorella, which is a decent which is a pretty darn good dose,
40:15Speaker 1But everybody's different. So it's like- Yeah, so like when you're gonna drink, if you say you're gonna do this on a weekend basis, just don't take the Tesamorelin during the weekend, for sure. Yeah. That'll help. And, I would hydrate the hell out of you, man. Drink a lot of,
40:29Speaker 1water with Celtic salt and just really get your body hydrated before you go out drinking. You're talking to 2 sober guys, so man, maybe just cut out the drinking.
40:38Speaker 1Even though you're talking about 2 recovering drug addicts, alcohol is way worse than drugs, man. Alcohol is a doozy for your body, man. Especially as you age, it is not good for your body. It does not like it. Yeah. I mean, hell, even though I like drugs more, I still had some, I mean, I was
40:55Speaker 0there was a bad time. I- Of course. At 1 point, I had a job where I had to wear dress shoes and- Push your limits, train with precision,
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41:31Speaker 0I, like, towards the end, I couldn't even fit my feet in the dress shoes. Oh, really? Was just yeah. Oh, brutal. So had such bad edema.
41:47Speaker 0yeah, that it's not that bad of a day. So you have to do you do these injections daily because it's so fast acting. And therefore, if you just don't do them, like, on Saturday, Sunday,
41:56Speaker 0it will get out of you considerably and not cause that water retention. So if you feel like drinking, maybe it's a good idea to just not do your do your injections. It's not the end of the world. You get back on them Monday.
42:06Speaker 0A lot of people think that we can talk to A of people do 5 days on, 2 days off anyway.
42:10Speaker 0Mostly, like, really I mean, the only reason you really wanna do that is just to kinda save money. Like, that's a common
42:15Speaker 0like, thing with HCG, like, oh, I need to do 5 days on, 2 days off. Well, is that true? Like, no. That that serves absolutely no purpose other than
42:23Speaker 0elongating the HCG that you have and saving you a little bit of money. But daily is better. Let's do that. All right.
42:31Speaker 1You up? You are. I'm up. All right. Hi, JD. This is the right place to send a question for Peptide of the Week. Yes, it is. If not, I apologize. My question is regarding the stack I have my husband on. He is 46 years old,
43:42Speaker 1you and Will for all that you guys are doing. I'm constantly listening to the podcast episodes on repeat and learn something new each time. You guys rock. Thank you for that. We love that, man. We are continuing to be blown away by everybody's kind words, and we love that stuff. So thank you for that. It means a lot to us. It really does.
44:09Speaker 145 is when you should be doing that. I would definitely say take both. I'm a big fan of taking both. I'm 48 years old. I take HGH in the morning.
44:18Speaker 1I take II IU. I don't ever go above that. I don't personally think that we need it. II IU is perfect.
44:29Speaker 1at night. I just, for the 1st time I've never been a CJC Ipamorelin guy, but I just started that in the last month.
44:36Speaker 1So that's what I'm running right now. You can see it because I just posted something today that I'm running CJC Ipamorelin at night. So I take an HGH in the morning and then a secretagog
44:56Speaker 1we just made a big jump because we're talking about peptides. Now we're talking about hormones.
45:03Speaker 1we need to get his blood work done. Where's his blood work? When it comes to testosterone,
45:08Speaker 1I want to see where his blood work is, where his testosterone's at, where his free testosterone's at, where his estrogen's at? Those are going to answer that. My opinion with working with both of us, hundreds and hundreds of men,
45:20Speaker 1most men, especially over 40, with a lot of the living styles, food that we eat on and on and on, their testosterone levels have just absolutely plummeted to just scary levels.
45:37Speaker 1I would imagine his testosterone is going to be low. That 1 in particular will be a changing of his life. If he is not on testosterone, has low testosterone, in 3 weeks, he will feel like a different human,
46:08Speaker 1for my total test and give or take, like 45 for my free test. Those of what I have seen with a lot of trial and error have worked
46:20Speaker 1and just constant energy throughout the day, but it's taken me a long time to know those numbers.
46:34Speaker 0You're like you keep referring to, like, you're- Selling my brother and your husband. Like, that's awesome, man. You're, like, supportive. And, usually it's the husband like- Take this, honey. Asking the wife, can I please take this?
46:44Speaker 0So good for you. That's that's badass. So the Tesamorelin at 45, I don't know. People are tripping. Like, that
46:51Speaker 0is so Makes no sense. Yeah. It makes no sense. Now maybe if so Tesamorelin tells your pituitary, your natural process to, hey, let's try it. Let's make more. Now Why would that be bad? Your now as we get older, if your natural process is like shot and not working at all,
47:17Speaker 0at 45 and you still my guess is that is not the case at all. Like, we're not at 45. Like, life isn't over. That is not when people's
47:35Speaker 0everybody's different, but for sure. At 45, I would, you know, get some- Get them blood test. Put money on.
47:41Speaker 0He should be over just I know JD said, Hey, if you're over 300, definitely do it. I would
47:53Speaker 0nanograms per deciliter, that's what we're looking for is the actual, like, blood test reading,
48:16Speaker 1C, we are, and NAD, those 3 together are just, they're gonna light a fire in his mitochondria, and they're going to really give him cellular energy. Those are great. I know we're big fans of And those the more weight he loses, so he needs to lose 40 to 50 pounds, like, good, Retta. Good. Did she say Retta in there? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Good. So good, Retta.
48:33Speaker 0Life is gonna just get better and better. The test is gonna work better and better the more weight he loses. Right? That's like- That's the key. The problem is the more fat we have, the more estrogen we have, and the worse we feel and the less testosterone we have.
48:46Speaker 0And it's a vicious cycle that just keeps going like that until you actually do something drastic to change that cycle.
48:54Speaker 0So it sounds like you're doing all, and I would let's go aggressive, you know? He's 45. He's got a whole 0.5 life to live. Yeah.
49:05Speaker 0Okay. Good stuff. Alright, guys. 1st, thank you for what you're doing. It's hard to sort through the BS these days, but you guys are the real deal, sharing your knowledge for the greater good.
49:14Speaker 0You're helping thousands of people you'll never know and for that you deserve whatever good fortune and good karma comes your way. Right back at you. I'm five'four.
49:26Speaker 0An avid mountain biker focused on the gravity discipline, suits your car full body endurance, strength, power. In the winter, I focus on gym work, which are mostly full body HIIT workouts. This year, I'm dealing with debilitating
49:42Speaker 0Minor shoulder problems, nothing new, a meniscus pain in both knees. Have my right knee repaired last winter, and the left is currently asking for it. Last
49:56Speaker 0g a week of the TB-five hundred in split doses. I'll run that for 6 weeks. During the riding season, I need endurance, power, and strength
50:09Speaker 0But fast muscle recovery is crucial. Joint repair will be needed as well. My dream stack, I think, would be CJC- Ipamorelin with BPC-
50:24Speaker 0which would you run and how much? I'm wondering if once I'm done with this 6 weeks of Wolverine,
50:35Speaker 0GH with 1 of the Wolverine peptides to get both aspects working together? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
50:49Speaker 1I was, I continue to be blown away by that particular compound. I love the Wolverine. I think that, if that would probably be, if I had to choose 1, that would be the 1. There's some guys out there throwing out that blends don't work and all that stuff. Listen,
51:08Speaker 1you all have those guys that are saying that stuff, I would ask you, do they sell peptides?
51:12Speaker 1They make more money when they sell them separate. Just so you know, I'm not accusing. I'm just saying maybe that's the case, because I'm telling you with 100% certainty,
51:27Speaker 1and here's why. I have rips in both shoulders, and there's no way in hell I'm not gonna lift weights. It's just part of my life.
51:34Speaker 1And those help without a doubt. I used to not even be able to raise my arm above my shoulder until I started taking the Wolverine. So now both, I do even dumbbell
51:45Speaker 1incline presses. I've never had done those in years. And that's because of the Wolverine,
51:50Speaker 1And then for me, like I've talked about numerous times, I've had back surgeries. So what I'm trying to do to stay ahead of the curve with that is I am injecting
52:04Speaker 1and that does a lot more, I think, in longevity in regards to the stem cells and whatnot. But anyways,
52:12Speaker 1in my back, I'm doing it on a daily basis just to try to maybe stay ahead of the curve. And I don't want to have another surgery, obviously.
52:24Speaker 1I think that you can take them. You sound like you're like us. You're going to work out till the day you die. It's your lifestyle.
52:31Speaker 1I can tell by how you're questioning and what you wrote in there, right? I love it. So you don't need to take them for only 6 weeks, especially those 2. BPC and the TB-five
52:51Speaker 1just like testosterone, our body doesn't make as much growth hormone. So like I've answered in other questions, I would even take actual, like a somatropin in the morning, like actual HGH.
53:20Speaker 0Answer that? I think I've got that. Yep. What are your your take? So the main question, dude, I don't know. You said budget's tight. Which should I choose? Okay. So the 1st 1 was like, do I should I what would you do in season?
53:52Speaker 0if you're in that much pain, there's certain things you just are not performing. I'm sorry. It's it's just not gonna happen
54:05Speaker 0aren't as great to nearly outweigh the effect that, yeah, the no inflammation and less pain would give you. K?
54:15Speaker 0So that's what I would do. I wish you had more money so you could do both because I absolutely would do both. Then, you know, I guess I would,
54:22Speaker 0yeah, safely do those. I'd probably rather take real HGH when you do, put in the CGC 12 95 IPA.
54:29Speaker 0You know, it's a long term that's even a long term play. So just don't expect it to work really fast like the BPC-2B-
54:41Speaker 0it sounds like and everything else, dude, your dosage, like, you it sounds like you know your stuff and you're on the right track, man.
54:51Speaker 0Yeah. You're If you're not taking tests and you're 54, like, that'll help. For you as an endurance athlete, you're gonna wanna take a, like, a very small amount, right, to stay lean and and and have good endurance,
55:04Speaker 0but it'll help a lot. You got it. Good stuff. Alright. Take us home, big dog. Last reconstituting
55:09Speaker 0AOD, which I've done numerous times. I utilize acetic acid backwater. During my last reconstitution,
55:15Speaker 0mix sure ever so slightly gelled up on a subsequent day, but it promptly returned to its liquid state after being vigorously rolled in the palms. Are there any other recommendations regarding the temperature of the AA backwater?
55:26Speaker 0Yes. There you go. Such as cold or room temp. What would be beneficial? Additionally, is it acceptable to run the AOD after this reconstitution?
55:52Speaker 0priority 1 is room temp water. K? Acetic acid backwater, good for you. That is exactly what you should be using with
56:04Speaker 0you know, still be you should be mixing around, rolling rolling it in daily, and you should be using it pretty fast. You can't even you really can't even expect to mix even the acetic acid backwater
56:19Speaker 05 mg last a month. Okay? It's just not gonna stay in a liquid form for that long. So use it, and use it as you're supposed to, which makes it be gone on a couple weeks.
56:32Speaker 0All right? It is awesome. And it's awesome. And, oh yeah, absolutely. It's a 100% safe to use now.
56:37Speaker 0If it had a little gelling problem, you got it to ungel, go ahead, use it. Great. All the time. No problem whatsoever.
56:43Speaker 0Even if it was gelled, let's say, let's say there was a little bit of gel at the bottom, right? Use all the liquid.
57:15Speaker 0Semax is a will give you energy. It will give you more energy and clarity of thought, whereas Selank
57:21Speaker 0will actually give you clarity of thought but a little bit more relaxed calm without, like, not drooling on yourself sleepy
57:34Speaker 0I wouldn't go in some high level competition and do a bunch of Selank right before, okay, because it may slow you down a little bit, but for the average person.
57:54Speaker 0And I don't really want to yeah, they actually just enhance each other in a really the CSS-thirty
58:00Speaker 11, like, they work well separately, but they just some of them work better in tandem. So I think those 2, in my opinion, work better. Absolutely.
58:11Speaker 0Russians have been using Semax slang for a long time. Long time. Right? And- and swear by it and love it. And so- For antidepressants. Antidepressants.
58:31Speaker 1Yeah. People freaking love it and swear by it. Good stuff. If you try it, let us know. We'd like to know how you do with it, but- Yeah, absolutely. Perfect, man. I have a doctor's appointment to go to, so we are good to go. Anything else before we get out of here? We gotta get this edited and out because it's gonna be- We're gonna drop it today. Anything else? No. Nope. All right. Leave us some comments, shoot us some DMs. We gotta record on Friday,
58:52Speaker 1the peptide of the week for Monday. Give us some ideas of what you want us to talk about. And the following week, we're gonna have our 1st doctor who is a TRT doctor.
59:00Speaker 1We definitely have, I think, some different opinions on some AI stuff, so it's gonna be a good conversation.
59:06Speaker 1It's gonna be a good conversation. We're gonna be a TRT doctor on and talk about TRT and some AIs and stuff like that. That's 2 weeks from now. Cool. Cool? Right on. All right, guys. We'll catch you on the next 1. Thanks, Al. Take care.