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0:00Speaker 0Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox,
0:04Speaker 0that's high performance loving.
0:06Speaker 0Everything you need to lock in and unlock your potential at Equinox.
0:10Speaker 0Start today at equinox.com.
0:24Speaker 1Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast.
0:27Speaker 1I am your host, JD Denham. And right next to me, my buddy,
0:31Speaker 1T. Hawk. What's up? What up? What's up everybody? We have,
0:36Speaker 1so you got a big day tomorrow. I do. It'll be fun. You've been waiting for a while. Yeah, I have. I've been thinking about this Are you for spilling the beans? Yeah, sure.
0:46Speaker 2Don't. Tell the fans. So I'm a The fans, right?
0:51Speaker 2I've been thinking about, I saw I'm 40, geez, am I 41? I don't know. I think I'm 40. I've done that 1.
0:57Speaker 2And I've been thinking about so I've had I've had hair, and it looks like I'm getting ready. I have some hair. Right? But I wanted to just not
1:06Speaker 2not even worry about it.
1:08Speaker 2But it's thinning. I don't really care. I'll tell all of you people because you know that all of you are thinking the same thing. Yeah.
1:14Speaker 2That you all would we would all love lots of hair. So I've been thinking about, like, going to Turkey,
1:20Speaker 2which is way cheaper. It's, like, something like $4. I have friends that have done it, like, $4 instead of $30 here.
1:28Speaker 2They put you in a 5 star hotel
1:30Speaker 2and,
1:31Speaker 2that's it. Now you gotta buy your air your AirFlight. And then we happen to run across a friend,
1:37Speaker 2well,
1:38Speaker 2a doctor that we do some business with who owns a hair transplant place. So-
1:45Speaker 2Yeah, for almost the same price. For the same price. And he would give me a Well, he'd give me a good deal because we're in business with him.
1:53Speaker 2And so basically, yes, it works out to be about the same price. And I don't have to go spend a week of my life,
1:58Speaker 2you know, in Turkey, even though Turkey would be cool, but it would not be cool. I'm not really gonna go out and be able to sightsee much, you know? It's like, do this, do this transplant and then just lay there and recover for 3 days.
2:11Speaker 1Is that what it is laying around a little bit? Yeah. Yeah. Painful?
2:15Speaker 2It is supposed to be very painful. They,
2:17Speaker 2but they apparently they inject you with numbing
2:21Speaker 2stuff, cortisone,
2:22Speaker 2and then maybe rub numbing cream in there, But it's labor intensive. They literally it's like it's almost think think of well, it's like potting. It's like replanting a tree. Right? You gotta cut the roots out. So literally every single pore,
2:35Speaker 2they have to go in there,
2:38Speaker 2cut the entire pore out with the follicle,
2:41Speaker 2cut a little hole where they want it, and replant it
2:45Speaker 2every every single hair at a time. And to make the hairline,
2:49Speaker 2they go in and they look at every follicle and they go so a normal person, every, like, pore has got 2 has got 2 little strands of hair coming out. Right? That's about average. But a lot there are a lot that just have 1. So they have to isolate the ones that just have 1, cut those out, and that's what they create their hairline with. Wow. So you don't have
3:08Speaker 22 going in odd odd directions or something.
3:11Speaker 2Interesting. Yeah. And then the rest of them, they want the ones that have 2. If not, mean, even more. Great. And then they they put that in the middle of your head. Right. And the donor, you gotta do it while you're young and you still have lots of hair. And apparently, I still have lots of hair. The
3:24Speaker 2question is, you know, I'm going, like, going a little gray, like, on the sides. And so the donor spot is gonna be
3:30Speaker 2from gray hair, but I wonder if,
3:34Speaker 2if I'm gonna be just replanting gray hairs in the middle of my head.
3:39Speaker 1If so, right, if so, oh well, so be it. It's funny, man, when you choose to put your life on social media, know, I don't even know how that all happened, but why you always wearing a hat? Because you're on testosterone, all this stupid stuff, you know, and it's like, listen, I'm 48 years old, dude. Like, I don't know if 48 year old isn't somewhat losing his hair. It's like, jeez, dude, it's not always like such a negative, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's called age. I feel like I'm pretty, like, pretty good for 48. Jesus happens. Let me see. I'm good. Me too. I mean, I'm pretty good for 40, and I just you know, my father still has a full thin air, but my my grandpa, my mom's father was bald
4:14Speaker 2ever since I ever knew him. So, apparently, it's
4:18Speaker 2from the your mother's side of the family. Right. Did you get that? Speaking of hair, I actually ran into somebody this morning
4:24Speaker 2at the gym, and she was telling me that she's taken GHKCu,
4:29Speaker 2and she's like, holy crap.
4:32Speaker 2My
4:33Speaker 2my hair
4:34Speaker 2right? And she's a young younger girl. She's like, I can't believe how fast my hair is growing back now. Not like growing back, not like she bald, but just growing. She goes, but it is growing growing in darker.
4:45Speaker 2Awesome.
4:46Speaker 2Was like, that's where it's too interesting.
4:49Speaker 2And she said, yeah, that's the thing. That is the thing. So people,
4:52Speaker 2like doing GHK-two. Yeah, we know like there's shampoo.
4:57Speaker 2We know it kind of stimulates follicles to grow and grow thicker, but it's interesting that my wife's good
5:04Speaker 2friend who does her hair, and she's a pretty renowned for Orange County hairdresser.
5:09Speaker 2She's pretty good at what she does. It was the best way to say that she
5:12Speaker 2isn't losing her hair. So naturally, she comes in and we talk about it, blah, blah, blah. And we talk about the shampoo and
5:19Speaker 2she brings it home, not thinking it's going to do much. And
5:22Speaker 2we've a call a couple of weeks later and she's blown away by it. And she's a no bullshit type girl. She's like,
5:29Speaker 2know, wants to sell it. So why am I saying this? Because it works, man. Why does everybody that tries to It doesn't matter what peptide they start with. It's generally BPC or like a GLP-one, right? For the most part.
5:41Speaker 1But why are peptides growing in popularity so much? Because they're fricking awesome, dude. They work
5:48Speaker 1compared to like Western medicine where they like that you go in there, they spend 2 minutes with you. They don't talk to you. They give you stuff that messes up our gut for the most part.
5:57Speaker 1Peptides
5:58Speaker 1are already in our body for the most part, right? They're just enhancing or whatever it is, whatever particular peptide.
6:04Speaker 1That's why they work so good, man. So when people start to try them and they get
6:09Speaker 2rad results, Yep. That's why they're growing so damn fast, man, because they freaking work. And not to mention, so we have a friend, we did an episode about the new industry
6:20Speaker 2update, right? And we have a friend who
6:23Speaker 2was in Washington,
6:25Speaker 2like speaking with
6:28Speaker 2RFK and JD Vance
6:30Speaker 2about
6:32Speaker 2Reta, but they also came there with
6:37Speaker 2a list of 40 or 50 peptides that we all talk about that
6:41Speaker 2are basically fast track to be FDA approved. Now, why would they do that? Why would they do that? Think through that.
6:47Speaker 2Because they wanna control it. Well, they wanna control it, but
6:50Speaker 2it also provides a ton of legitimacy to
6:54Speaker 2all these peptides, right? Like it's a
6:57Speaker 2yes. I mean, I still, the FDA, you approved OxyContin and told
7:02Speaker 2everybody that they're not addictive, right? And I have 10 dead friends that say otherwise.
7:07Speaker 2So
7:08Speaker 2the FDA don't
7:10Speaker 2really have much faith in,
7:13Speaker 2but it's a hard besides money, but there's, you know, not with not a lot of money, well, there would be a lot of money, a lot of these other peptides, but it does,
7:22Speaker 2they wanna control it, but the fact is it's, they are good and they are actually working. So it is, something, a commodity that they can control and can make billions off of. So
7:34Speaker 2how can we make sense? That,
7:36Speaker 2There but just, I don't know. These things freaking work and
7:40Speaker 2are
7:42Speaker 2I mean, they're safe. I don't even wanna say relatively safe. All
7:46Speaker 1the political
7:47Speaker 1leave it right there. Peptides are freaking amazing. That's why you're listening to the podcast. That's why the podcast is doing so well. Nothing special about us. The fact that we're talking about things that people are intrigued by and they're interested in, and we like talking about them. We definitely, definitely like trying them. Absolutely. So I guess the last little bit of of the hair, yeah, I'm gonna do that. It's like 7 hours, and, I will
8:09Speaker 2show everybody if everybody cares.
8:11Speaker 2It's gotta be interesting. Hey. Now there's something on the video
8:15Speaker 2that alright. Hey. On this date, this is what my hair looks like.
8:19Speaker 2Cool. We'll see you in 6 months. Right. It's not gonna look pretty next week. That's for sure. We'll see what I look like with a shaved head. Kinda have a long head with a
8:28Speaker 1a smallish crown. Yeah. I had a shaved head forever, man. Figured out finally, like, 2 years back, but there's Well, dude, well, cool. Today is the episode we all love. It's the Q and A episode.
8:40Speaker 1We like talking through these things and getting a little touch of you guys.
8:44Speaker 1So let's why don't you do the honors, man? We always like you to start it off. Alright.
8:48Speaker 2I'll get my glasses. Hey, JD. I've been fortunate enough to find your podcast and listen to every episode a couple of times now to get information,
8:57Speaker 2that you guys provide stuck in my brain. It's great to see you 2 blokes telling it how it is and being a 100% honest about what they are putting in their bodies,
9:07Speaker 2as too often people hide it for sure. Again, my friends who have been like, man, the testosterone I've done, dude, has saved my life.
9:17Speaker 2It has made in new man, it's the best thing. Hey, but just don't tell anybody that I'm doing this. Okay? You asshole.
9:23Speaker 2Yeah. Right? Yeah.
9:26Speaker 2Okay. I have a request, and I'm not sure that it's something that can be done on the podcast. Solid favor. Need to send it to me privately. Right? I'm currently battling with tendonitis in my elbow. Has been about 4 months. Recently started on Glow. I've heard you guys say you can inject straight into where the injury is, but I'm a little scared of injecting into my tendon. My question to you is, are you able to do a video on how to do this, please? I have so many questions for you, but,
9:54Speaker 2but now this is 1 of my biggest. I should add I had tendonitis in my right elbow for many months, ended up having a cortisone injection,
10:02Speaker 2which helped immensely. Yeah. But but, I thought I would try peptides before going back to a cortisone injection. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks again for being awesome, guys. I appreciate all the knowledge,
10:12Speaker 2that you put out everywhere. Stay strong and safe.
10:15Speaker 1A lot of Aussies, man. A lot of Aussies listening in. I love it. I would
10:19Speaker 1imagine they're pretty damn hard to get out in Australia.
10:22Speaker 1I've heard- We get a lot of people hooking this up, but you want me to start? I mean- You wanna start? Do wanna- I'll start because I have some immediate answers. Go it.
10:31Speaker 2BPC, like tendonitis, BPC is the thing for tendonitis. Like, that's its job. It's really- Right into that tendonitis, baby. Tendonitis.
10:38Speaker 2I have said this previously that I've had bad tendonitis and have injected just directly into my tendon. Okay. And
10:49Speaker 2use, I use a brand new needle, so it goes in. It's kinda, you can, I mean, you can almost like feel it?
10:55Speaker 2Right? That's a tightly wound
10:58Speaker 2tendon. So,
10:59Speaker 2you know, it doesn't just go through, like, your, like, skin or muscle. So Yeah. You kinda feel it. I went slow. I'm like, damn. This feels kinda weird.
11:07Speaker 2You know, you want to I made sure I didn't hit a vein.
11:10Speaker 2So
11:11Speaker 2you can hopefully see the veins. Right? You better not have any blood that comes back in.
11:17Speaker 2The needle, I don't know how graphic we're allowed to be. I don't know I don't think we're
11:22Speaker 2we're ready to do a video just because that's why you said message you privately, so thank you. But,
11:27Speaker 2putting it right in there and and injecting it every day really, really worked for me.
11:34Speaker 2Numerous times. You could go
11:35Speaker 2you you know, you could go really close to the tendon also. Right? Subcu there, intramuscular there, but not, you know, point into the tendon.
11:44Speaker 2I have, and I thought it worked amazingly.
11:47Speaker 2So there's that Cortisone scares me. Like, there's a reason that, you know, most doctors, most doctors are
11:52Speaker 2they don't wanna give people cortisone injections more than like twice a year because it just destroys, well, your, like, cartilage.
12:00Speaker 2So and all it's doing is masking the pain. Yeah. Actually, I mean, it might be reducing inflammation, and that is all tendonitis is. It's just chronic
12:08Speaker 2over inflammation.
12:10Speaker 2So but I would abs do what you're doing. Stay away from the cortisone. Yeah. Objection. Because it's not it's not gonna it's not really it's gonna help right now. Yeah. Cool. Because you don't feel it.
12:20Speaker 2But it's not helping the condition,
12:24Speaker 2fully like BBC is.
12:26Speaker 1BPC will heal that condition. Well, it did for me multiple times and for lots of friends.
12:33Speaker 2Hands in. Hell yeah. And the glow, now you said you're gonna do glow. That's cool. It's got BPC and TB and GHK-
12:39Speaker 2That's gonna sting.
12:41Speaker 2That's gonna sting a little bit going in there. I would frankly just do high doses of BPC and TB. Yep. Right in there. Wondering what That's my answer. Yeah, I would say
12:52Speaker 1we'll kind of just picked up on that. What I would say is pull out the glow.
12:56Speaker 1Glow's great, but in
12:58Speaker 1regards to what you're describing,
13:00Speaker 1there ain't nothing better than the Wolverine dude. I've used it countless times. I am still blown away by how freaking good it works. I was just, I just actually dropped a video driving
13:08Speaker 1today, just talking about how freaking fast
13:12Speaker 1the Wolverine healed my chest. I'm still blown away. I literally thought I was going to have problems like, oh dude, I'm not going be able to do my chest forever. I was like, bomb dude. And like, I started blasting it right away and I'm still amazed. Like it healed it so freaking fast.
13:27Speaker 1So I would pull out the glow and just go Wolverine and how
13:31Speaker 1much can you afford? You can blast it. I think that is such a good compound. And I am really going to say that 1 in particular, the Wolverine, if you can afford it, do quite a bit because it will expedite the healing. Now, if you can afford a little, then do a little, still will do well. It might take a little bit longer to heal, but Will and I know countless people with tendinitis and the BPC,
13:50Speaker 1it's what it's for. It will heal it, but just nail that sucker.
13:54Speaker 2Just wherever it's at, Wherever it happens to be. I don't know. Some people get it here, right? Some people get it right here. These 2.
14:00Speaker 2And you will notice, guys, everybody's healing cycle is like this. So you, when it's really inflamed and it really hurts the pain, and I'm just using this, this is where my tendon always hurts, okay? But that pain may, some people are like, oh, I don't even know where it originates, right? Because it is now so bad and that inflammation is everywhere and it's hurting me from here to here, right? You will notice though that pain will start to centralize.
14:23Speaker 2Okay. And it will start to hurt more
14:26Speaker 2if that's central point. Okay. That is a good sign. We know things are healing if that's happening. So don't say, oh man, it's even, it's like hurting more. It's more sensitive. So this must be bad. Yeah. That's actually a good sign. If the
14:42Speaker 2pain just narrows
14:43Speaker 2down to a very specific spot, but pain goes up, that's great. You're on the cusp of actually truly healing it now.
14:50Speaker 2So going. And when he says a lot, like, I'd say a reasonable lot is 2 mgs a day. Yeah. That's good. 2 mg a day of of TB and BPC.
15:01Speaker 2I
15:02Speaker 2wouldn't take any less than 0.5 a milligram of each a day,
15:06Speaker 2and I would go till it's done.
15:09Speaker 1I was doing it morning and night. I was able to, and, like, I brought a big bottle of the BPC. It was actually the only bottle when I was in Cabo. I was only BPC,
15:18Speaker 1but I did it in the morning and night because again, I was like, Oh man, this sucks. I do not want to, I'm going to have this tear. I was really worried about the tear. It was that bad.
15:26Speaker 1So I did it morning and night. I mean, I have
15:29Speaker 1proof from my back surgery doing it like that morning and night in high doses and how fast it helped, dude. So like, I am sold. And again, I've had numerous injuries since and like, damn, this stuff works so good. It's insane.
15:41Speaker 1So much better than the cortisone.
15:43Speaker 1Brother. Much better. And thank you for the support, all the way out in Australia, man. A lot of Aussies listening. I love it.
15:59Speaker 1They last and be effective? Grateful for both of you sharing your experience, strength, and hope. Good stuff.
16:06Speaker 1Stuff. I mean, about 2 years, I would say stored in the fridge. They last a long time before you mix them, man. So
16:14Speaker 1we said it before, nobody knows what's
16:19Speaker 1going to happen in 2026. So I think anybody that can afford a bit, stock up, why not? Not going go bad. So all you're doing is just being prepared. You know? I got some in my fridge at the house just in case too and whatever.
16:31Speaker 2I would say that so in the refrigerator,
16:34Speaker 2so there's a couple of things you don't keep away from light and heat. If you're gonna go really long term, well, a, number 1, don't mix them. Alright?
16:42Speaker 2Where he's taught when he says 2 years, that means unmixed still in their powder form. Yeah.
16:48Speaker 2So don't mix them. I would put them in the fridge.
16:52Speaker 2Don't freeze them. Like, if we're talking, like, 10 years, freeze them. Okay? Really cold, but we're not. I don't think. So fridge and the little tip, like put them in the crisper.
17:04Speaker 2You know, everybody in the refrigerator has the like crisper drawer. Okay?
17:08Speaker 2That is supposed to be less humid.
17:11Speaker 2K? What you do not want, though, is if it's cold, but you better not let any condensation
17:17Speaker 2get inside of that bottle. K? So crisper drawer is
17:22Speaker 2the best place in the fridge.
17:25Speaker 2It doesn't need to be super cold.
17:28Speaker 2Yeah, that's my best suggestion and 2 years. They'll last
17:32Speaker 2a they'll last plenty long unmixed. Yeah. As soon as you mix them, you know No. It depends on the it depends on the peptide, but
17:42Speaker 2but, I mean, honestly, I've seen people who have old
17:45Speaker 2Tirzepatide and had it for 6 months and it still works. So I've had some Melanotan that had been in my
17:51Speaker 1fridge forever and I had done it forever. Like, yeah, I'll do it for a week. And then I'm like, it still works. PT-one hundred 40 one's probably been there for
17:57Speaker 2a year, at least in a still works really, really well. It
18:01Speaker 2depends.
18:02Speaker 2But yeah, the key, I guess, don't mix them. Don't mix it before storage. And I like your I mean, those who know know, and he says,
18:10Speaker 2thanks for sharing your experience, strength, and hope. I think that there's a lot a bill. Yeah. So right on.
18:16Speaker 2Cool. Next. Okay. Hi, guys. I continue to love the podcast and learn
18:21Speaker 2so much from you both every week. There's a lot of information being shared, and I often find myself wondering whether you'd consider a show website
18:29Speaker 2or something with an index of topics discussed.
18:32Speaker 2Another thing that would be great would be a peptide cheat sheet. It would be so beneficial to have an updated place to
18:39Speaker 2look up a particular peptide or blend, what it is used for, typical doses, dose range for both men and women, frequency, forms, availability, reconstitution amount, etcetera.
18:50Speaker 2You could link to your products or others you'd like. Just a thought, I've looked up, the Peptide Research Institute,
18:57Speaker 2but there are
18:59Speaker 2many products
19:01Speaker 2that you mention
19:02Speaker 2that aren't on their list.
19:04Speaker 2Thanks.
19:06Speaker 2Yeah, totally.
19:08Speaker 2I have been
19:10Speaker 2kind of working on that and doing different iterations for a long time,
19:16Speaker 2And we are really, we are working on
19:19Speaker 2that and getting this
19:22Speaker 2podcast more organized. So we actually
19:25Speaker 2have like, yeah, a different software program where
19:30Speaker 2the videos and, like, a protocol type database will be included.
19:35Speaker 2And it's in the works. Right? That is
19:39Speaker 2it's a big undertaking.
19:41Speaker 2Yeah. Mhmm. It's a big undertaking, especially, like, cystic current with all the services protocols because, like, hey. New info comes out.
19:50Speaker 2Then you start getting into it and you're like, oh, well, let's add this. But then if you add that, you gotta add that for every every for every single 1 and
19:58Speaker 2deal with the formatting. I don't know. It's maybe making excuses, but it's just a lot of work. And we're and I've been
20:03Speaker 2I've done a lot of those, but but
20:06Speaker 2got up until
20:07Speaker 2today.
20:08Speaker 2So
20:09Speaker 2but we're working on something a lot more official that'll be really clean and useful
20:14Speaker 0for every Push your limits. Train with precision. See the results.
20:18Speaker 0At Equinox,
20:19Speaker 0that's high performance loving. Everything you need to lock in and unlock your potential at Equinox.
20:25Speaker 0Start today at equinox.com.
20:30Speaker 1Buddy.
20:30Speaker 1Simplicity.
20:31Speaker 1I mean, everybody at this point, I think, should know that, social media is
20:36Speaker 1they get nailed on social media channels. I mean, even YouTube, which we thought was a little bit safer, we've got nailed on there a little bit, but so we
20:43Speaker 1can't talk about protocols on that stuff. Just not going to happen
20:46Speaker 1because we do not want to have any of those taken down because we put a lot of work into those over the last year, year and 0.5. So what we've decided to do is pull people off their social media is on to kind of our own type of a deal where we'll have some of that stuff where we can talk freely
21:01Speaker 1and not just Will and I, I mean, anybody at this company is extremely passionate. They're all knowledgeable.
21:07Speaker 1People know a lot of the people that we kind of work with.
21:11Speaker 1Will and I only kind of work around people that are very passionate about the stuff we do. So you'll be able to talk to a lot of different people that are really into this stuff, and I think that you will enjoy it. It'll be good. Still works.
21:22Speaker 1All right.
21:24Speaker 1What's up, guys? I'm 43 and taking CJC-1295
21:28Speaker 1and
21:29Speaker 1a Clomiphene-6.25
21:31Speaker 1every other day. I'm also on MOTS-1C.
21:35Speaker 1Just had labs done. My total T is $11.64.
21:40Speaker 1Free T is 180.
21:42Speaker 1Wow. DHT
21:43Speaker 1is 94 and Estrada is 74. I was having some emotional side effects,
21:48Speaker 1So my doc put me on anastrozole.
21:51Speaker 1My
21:52Speaker 1total and free almost doubled in 3 months.
21:56Speaker 1I haven't started an AI yet because I hear it's not the best
22:00Speaker 1for you and
22:02Speaker 1have some side effects
22:04Speaker 1of a society with
22:06Speaker 1blonde and dim. My goal with all of this is to lean out a bit, join the club.
22:13Speaker 1So a bit, so also gay- he also gave me Retto 1 mg a week, which is very low.
22:19Speaker 1I'm 185 pounds, five'eleven and very active.
22:22Speaker 1Should I take the AI increase the Retta or is there anything else you recommend?
22:27Speaker 1Merry Christmas, love you guys. Well, 1st and foremost, man, those numbers are extremely high. I mean, the 11.64,
22:34Speaker 1there's a lot of guys that like to run that on their
22:37Speaker 1total test.
22:39Speaker 1Matter of opinion, you know, Will and I have talked about it quite a few times.
22:44Speaker 1Most people talk about the free tests. I mean, the total tests and not the free test, which is kind of odd because that's where you get your energy, drive and certain things. So free test is actually really important.
22:54Speaker 1And that's high, dude. Like, I like to be like 45, you're 180.
22:58Speaker 1That's high. So you must be, that's
23:01Speaker 2I a mean, that's great. And there's nothing really, you can,
23:04Speaker 2there's nothing.
23:05Speaker 2I mean, yeah, hell, you you wanna get as much free test as damn possible.
23:10Speaker 2So
23:11Speaker 2kick ass. You're you're see you'll sex hormone binding globulin, right, is probably super low,
23:17Speaker 2which is awesome. That's what just kind of takes up your androgen receptor space. So not all of your total tests can actually grab on and therefore
23:27Speaker 2be free.
23:29Speaker 1So I'm sorry, Kurie, Kurie. You're good. Your estradiol is at 74, which is pretty high. So like an optimal,
23:35Speaker 1I mean, everybody's a different science project. We're talking about 15
23:38Speaker 1to 30
23:39Speaker 1people grams per milliliter. So you're at 74,
23:42Speaker 1super high. My question would be, are you getting gyno?
23:47Speaker 1Because testosterone is obviously converting estrogen and when that happens for most, like me,
23:52Speaker 1you get gynecomastia.
23:53Speaker 1So do you have a little ball in your nipple? Do you get itchy? Is it tender?
23:59Speaker 1If so, should you start the AI? Absolutely. I think that you should anyway. Now, there's
24:05Speaker 1a lot of stuff out there where certain people saying don't take an AI, blah, blah. Listen,
24:10Speaker 1everybody has a man of opinion. I posted something about like, were talking about this in 1 of the posts and it's just like, dude, people just attack it. Listen, if you don't want to take it, then don't take it. We take it. If I get, if I'm getting gyno, I'm going to take, I'm going to take an AI. So if you have a problem with that, don't take it. You know what mean? Like, live and let live, man. I'm assuming with those numbers, my brother, you are definitely probably getting some gyno issues.
24:37Speaker 1So my suggestion would be absolutely. You do not want to get gyno to the degree where it grows to the factory, you can't fix it. I've had the surgery because of my testosterone for since day 1 converts
24:48Speaker 1estrogen long
24:50Speaker 1before I knew about,
24:51Speaker 1know, long before I knew what I was doing, it converted estrogen to the degree where I had to get it cut out. And it still comes back. People think if you have the surgery that you can't get it, that's wrong. It's
25:03Speaker 1wrong. So, yeah, that would be my thing in regards to that. Look at the signs, your numbers are high,
25:10Speaker 1mean, how do you feel? It always boils down to how do you feel?
25:15Speaker 1What's some of the questions? I take it 1 off the red
25:19Speaker 1mg of red is extremely low.
25:22Speaker 1I think you could do a little bit more. I mean, you could just do 0.5 of a mg Monday, Wednesday, Friday and go up a little bit.
25:29Speaker 1Try that.
25:30Speaker 1But
25:31Speaker 1we say it all the time,
25:34Speaker 1We're science projects. You won't know until you try.
25:37Speaker 1And
25:38Speaker 1you got to find your sweet spot on a lot of this stuff. And that takes time. It takes experimenting.
25:43Speaker 1And, we've done it for years and
25:46Speaker 1it takes a long time to find out your sweet spot in testosterone placement,
25:50Speaker 1hormone optimization,
25:51Speaker 1even diet nutrition.
25:53Speaker 1I like the carnivore diet, but that doesn't mean that I know all just because it works for me. It doesn't mean it's going to work for you. You got to find what works for you.
26:00Speaker 1My suggestion is up the red a little bit, and I would probably take AI because I'm thinking you probably are converting estrogen and you're gonna get some gyno.
26:08Speaker 2What do you got? Yeah, I mean, I guess at 1st glance, I was gonna say, well, you're that Enclomiphene dose 6.25
26:13Speaker 2mg is damn low, but results
26:16Speaker 2is being at 1,100
26:20Speaker 2total tests and
26:23Speaker 2your free test being 180 is
26:26Speaker 2high and great.
26:28Speaker 2You're not, I mean, look, dude, you say you're telling me that you're not taking testosterone.
26:34Speaker 2Did he say that? Kick. Yeah. I guess I they didn't say he is. Just said he was taking enclomiphene.
26:40Speaker 2The CJC 12 95
26:43Speaker 2doesn't isn't gonna do anything to your testosterone.
26:46Speaker 2Good or bad. That's just not how it works.
26:49Speaker 2But the enclomiphene
26:51Speaker 2at 6.25,
26:53Speaker 2just generally, like, I usually see pills at at 12.5
26:57Speaker 2or 25
26:58Speaker 2mg. So
27:01Speaker 2that's great. Now your estrogen being at 74, like, I will 2nd that. Like, that I mean, absolute that's why your doctor told you to take take inastrozole
27:08Speaker 2AKA Arimidex.
27:10Speaker 2Okay? As signs of high estrogen. Basically, there's 4 4 main ones. So
27:16Speaker 2emotions. Right? I mean, basically women have a ton of estrogen. Okay?
27:21Speaker 2Yeah, absolutely. So this is what,
27:25Speaker 2you're kind of turning into a woman. So sorry, women, like emotional.
27:29Speaker 2You're,
27:30Speaker 2you start retain water. So excess
27:32Speaker 2water retention.
27:33Speaker 2So if you're starting to look bloated, everywhere,
27:36Speaker 2you may think, okay, my estrogen's probably high. Acne, if you're getting, you know, dotted out, you start, I don't know, you have any, like, more breakouts than usual anywhere Chest and back. Especially chest and back where you shouldn't have it. That's all estrogen and easily fixed. And then gyno, he's right. Right? Your body is gonna start growing
27:55Speaker 2TIFF, it starts growing too fat from a tiny little bit right under your nipples.
28:00Speaker 2Your nipples will be start to be sore and sensitive, and that's a sign that the estrogen is high and that your body is trying to build that fat. And if if left unchecked and you do not take an estrogen
28:11Speaker 2blocker and AI, right, aromatase inhibitor,
28:14Speaker 2you will build that fat, and that fat must be cut out of you.
28:19Speaker 2I actually talked to a girl yesterday, and I was like, that's the fat that can't be cut that has to be cut out, can't be burnt off. And they're like, well, bullshit. How come every time I lose weight, I I only I burn off all my tits?
28:31Speaker 2It's like, well, it's true. Have heard that from girls.
28:33Speaker 2Maybe it works different for in men, but, or it's different than this the the kind of fake breasts that men shouldn't have when we grow fat. Yeah. The guys, you can't burn that off. And so the goal is to never let it grow. Okay?
28:46Speaker 2So if you are experiencing any of those 4 symptoms, I would absolutely start the REMEDX. And people are tripping
28:52Speaker 2who say, oh, REMEDX is so bad for you. Like, that is such bullshit. And
28:58Speaker 2I guarantee 90% of those people out in line that are are geared up and giant and they say they'd never take Remodex, they're lying to you.
29:07Speaker 2So I don't think so, man. The goal is to take as little
29:10Speaker 2Rimbidex, Anastrozil, AI blocker, all the same thing,
29:14Speaker 2as possible.
29:15Speaker 2So as little as possible, but to get no to have no side effects. Okay? There is a life where you can take testosterone or or or something else, I guess, to really elevate your testosterone
29:26Speaker 2and have no side effects. Okay? Yeah. Holy It's really doable.
29:29Speaker 2Just gotta do it right. You just gotta find your sweet spot.
29:33Speaker 2And I've talked about that before. So we just kinda take it till symptoms are gone daily, take it till symptoms are gone, then back up 3 days a week. And then maybe every 2 weeks, pull out, you know, 0.5 a pill, 0.5 a milligram.
29:46Speaker 2And
29:47Speaker 2as long as, hey, no symptoms, great. You can drop another 0.5 mg. No symptoms, great. As soon as you drop another milligram and some of the symptoms come back, well, maybe last week was your sweet spot.
29:57Speaker 2K? But just incrementally drop them. Otherwise, dude,
30:01Speaker 2I'm not mad at you for having 1,100
30:03Speaker 2test scores, especially if you're not actually taking testosterone. That kicks ass. Good for you. The boron and dim, like, yeah, that might lower your estrogen a little bit. Alright.
30:13Speaker 2Cool. Maybe and you said it had. Like, that's correct. That that does. But if we if you're somebody who actually has an estrogen problem
30:20Speaker 2and you're having gyno, I would not rely on boron and dim. I'm taking dim times and Yeah. It doesn't really do much.
30:27Speaker 2But in your case, maybe it did a little bit and just enough. Awesome.
30:30Speaker 2And I I 2nd what he said about Retta.
30:33Speaker 2Alright. Moving on. Who's up? Mew? I am. So hey, bro. It's Charlie from Sydney, Australia here. Awesome. Love the pod.
30:41Speaker 2Keep up the great work. My question is with a lot of peptides still being research chemicals,
30:47Speaker 2are you worried about future desensitization
30:50Speaker 2to our receptors?
30:52Speaker 2I've seen a few videos regarding this, and I'm not sure if they're legitimate or not. Many thanks in advance. Yeah, I mean,
30:59Speaker 2I think the fact that their research chemicals has not much to has nothing to do about it, you know, has nothing to do with it.
31:08Speaker 2Like,
31:09Speaker 2the retatrutide
31:12Speaker 2research use only and
31:14Speaker 2prescribed,
31:17Speaker 2there is 0 difference between those 2,
31:19Speaker 2FYI.
31:21Speaker 2Theoretically, there should be 0 difference. Okay?
31:25Speaker 2Unless you have somebody who puts nothing in a jar and sells it to you.
31:29Speaker 2But that is not worry about that is not what do you mean? There are and then but yes, I mean, I worry about desensitization
31:36Speaker 2with everything that a person takes. Right?
31:40Speaker 2There's
31:40Speaker 2know, drinking a lot of coffee, you start to get desensitized to coffee.
31:45Speaker 2You everything that I take, you build a slight tolerance. And so
31:49Speaker 2none of these are and that's why I have said that, hey, guys. Even the stuff that is totally okay for you, there's not gonna give you any real side effects
31:59Speaker 2long term. I still have said, hey, I think you should go 4 months and then take a couple couple week break
32:04Speaker 2specifically for that reason. Right? Because you build this tolerance and you are less sensitive to it, and then therefore it's not doing
32:11Speaker 2the same thing as it should. And so it's a good idea to give yourself breaks. Now I'm not worried about, like, forever
32:19Speaker 2desensitization
32:21Speaker 2on certain things. Now 100%. But, like, yeah. If you
32:25Speaker 2I
32:27Speaker 2don't know. If we're having a rational conversation and
32:31Speaker 2saying that, we're assuming you're not gonna do a 100 bottles of IGF-one
32:36Speaker 2every day,
32:37Speaker 2you know,
32:38Speaker 2then, no, with regular dosing, I'm not worried about long term
32:42Speaker 2desensitization
32:43Speaker 2or just completely blowing out unrepairable
32:47Speaker 2unrepairing your your receptors. Right? But so no. But I still think, hey. A couple weeks break,
32:52Speaker 2then they'll then then everything will be back to normal. Right? There is, like, people talk about metabolic damage and like, hey, you know, ask any bodybuilder,
33:01Speaker 2who's cutting. You know, you can do metabolic
33:04Speaker 2damage by
33:05Speaker 2taking so many supplements that are fat burners that are like lipotropics
33:10Speaker 2and starving yourself out. And
33:14Speaker 2after a while,
33:15Speaker 2you'll do some cuts and then you'll try to, you know, you'll get you'll gain some weight or whatever, and you'll try to cut like, man, this stuff just isn't working. My body isn't responding. Yes, because you've kind of done some metabolic damage. What you need to do then is
33:29Speaker 2chill and live your life. Eat some normal food, eat some normal healthy meals for a few months. Right? Back up on the psycho working out and
33:38Speaker 2don't take heavy doses of fat burners. In fact, maybe let's just not take any fat burners as supplements. Let your body just get back to its normal equilibrium.
33:48Speaker 2And yeah, take DSIP
33:50Speaker 2to helps your body get back in check. Take Thymosin Alpha.
33:56Speaker 2Take Epitalon.
33:58Speaker 2Those kind of all help
34:00Speaker 2nail on their bio regulators. Reboot.
34:03Speaker 2Help you reboot a little bit and then your body will come back.
34:07Speaker 2I am also amazed the resilience of the human body. Yeah.
34:12Speaker 2God knows what he's doing. God knows what he's doing. When I 1st got into doing testosterone, you hear all these things about like, oh, you know, you'll never have a kid. Like what I have been amazed with after seeing thousands of people is like,
34:24Speaker 2how much our natural test does bounce back after
34:28Speaker 2abuse
34:30Speaker 2and abuse and abuse and abuse. But despite all of our best efforts to just kill our own natural testosterone, damn, that thing still keeps coming back. And people still can have babies.
34:40Speaker 2You know, there's
34:42Speaker 2exceptions to every rule, but that's what I'm surprised about.
34:46Speaker 2Agreed.
34:47Speaker 1Cool. Alright, where we at? Let's see. Last 1. Alright. What's the best thing if Retta is no longer available? I currently take Retta for weight loss and blood sugar regulation.
34:58Speaker 1I do not think you need to worry about it.
35:01Speaker 1The maker, I will not say the name, no need of this compound
35:06Speaker 1is going to be once it's FDA approved, it will be everywhere.
35:09Speaker 1Now, costs will be higher in my opinion,
35:12Speaker 1but you will be able to get it. So I would not worry about you being able to get it. The cost just might be higher.
35:19Speaker 2What do you got? True that. Yeah, supply is not gonna be a problem. It's just cost will.
35:26Speaker 2That's about that's about it. If you wanna DM us, we can kinda tell you, yeah, some spots to that will be, like, foolproof or recession proof.
35:36Speaker 2Yeah. And
35:38Speaker 2but if we wanna say, okay, let's say, Retta was never invented, but we know this idea of what it does.
35:45Speaker 21
35:45Speaker 2thing that I like is Tesofensine.
35:48Speaker 2That really helps with food cravings.
35:51Speaker 2You know?
35:53Speaker 2It helps more for your brain, makes your brain just more satious. You're not walking around looking for any type of dopamine spike. So it helps people who love to eat sweets, cut back on sweets
36:03Speaker 2just because you're like, don't
36:04Speaker 2really,
36:05Speaker 2yeah. No. It's not looking not looking to satisfy that part of our brain. Because believe it or not, I mean, that is a 1 of our major functional drivers of us human beings is food. Right? We are built
36:17Speaker 2with the survival mechanism to need to eat and to search for it. Right? Yeah. Or else the species
36:23Speaker 2would die off.
36:25Speaker 2That's why sex drive is so high, you know?
36:29Speaker 2God knows what he's doing. Yeah, knows what he's doing, man. Does whatever it takes to
36:34Speaker 2design us so the species survives. So I don't know, man. I wouldn't worry about that.
36:39Speaker 2Just cost. Just cost.
36:41Speaker 2Yeah. But I think it'd be alright. You'll probably find it available. Find it cheap. 30 year old, 38 year old female, 3 kids, eat healthy, work out 6 days a week. 3 to 4 of those days are heavyweight training days. Also, I do a mix of HIIT and zone 2 cardio,
36:56Speaker 2walking, running, biking, started microdose of tirzepatide,
37:00Speaker 22 Migs a week in August, and it has helped with every aspect of my life. Lost 20 pounds of bloat and inflammation, healed my gut, so much more.
37:08Speaker 2Just rechecked
37:10Speaker 2my labs, and my inflammation is way down. My cholesterol is in the normal range for the 1st time in my adult life. Yep. I don't know about you.
37:16Speaker 2And I look and feel like I've gained muscle.
37:20Speaker 2K. I'm now very into I am now very into peptides.
37:24Speaker 2This is literally what you're going to be open So with, you
37:27Speaker 21st of all, good for you,
37:29Speaker 2person.
37:31Speaker 2I lost my spot. Alright. I just finished a cycle of
37:34Speaker 2BPC-one 57 to heal my shoulder issue, and now I'm starting GHK CU and NAD plus.
37:40Speaker 2Wondering about dosing,
37:42Speaker 2how often I should take them, and how long each cycle should be.
37:46Speaker 2Also, though, I do not want to lose any more weight, I'd love to try and tone up my stomach a bit more.
37:52Speaker 2Thoughts on Tessa Ipi.
37:54Speaker 2What
37:55Speaker 2do you think of this stack with the goal to maintain weight, increase muscle, increase energy,
38:00Speaker 2and adjust for general longevity. I also plan on staying on the microdose of Zepatide for the foreseeable future since it has truly saved my life,
38:09Speaker 2changed my life, and thank you for the wealth of knowledge and you have provided me through this podcast. I look forward to each and every episode.
38:16Speaker 1Sweet. Oh, hell. That was a good 1.
38:18Speaker 2Go ahead. So,
38:21Speaker 1I think that, without even us reading this together, I think we're both gonna probably answer 1 of them with the right same answer, which is we're going to say, get off the Tirzepatide and go with the Retrutide. It's just a superior product. I think you'll like it more.
38:34Speaker 1So you definitely want to do that. Thoughts on Tessa Ipamorelin. I think it's amazing.
38:38Speaker 1I definitely think it's amazing for women. If you want to tighten up the tummy,
38:42Speaker 1that will do it. It focuses right on that bottom belly fat. We've discussed it numerous times on this podcast. It's the 1 peptide,
38:49Speaker 1it's the 1 compound
38:51Speaker 1out there that
38:53Speaker 1literally will focus in on that fat. So should you do it? Yes, I think it would be great. I would switch the tirzepatide.
39:00Speaker 1I know it's done wonders for you, but if you liked your appetite, you'll probably love Revitrutide.
39:05Speaker 1So try that.
39:07Speaker 1If you're not looking to lose any more weight, just do a low dose.
39:11Speaker 1And then if you feel like you've got to the point where you're good, you can always pull it out. You can always go back on. So it's never going to be a bad thing.
39:20Speaker 1General longevity,
39:21Speaker 1you've got some of them. You tie your NAD. I
39:24Speaker 1I would say
39:26Speaker 1MOTS-C
39:27Speaker 1and an SS-thirty 1 would be great to add with NAD.
39:30Speaker 1GHK- CU, you women love that. I think it's great as well.
39:35Speaker 1Some women can't handle the sting, but my buddy over here has figured out a way to even diminish the sting, so that should be fine. But I think that you're doing great. I would pull the Tirz, I would go with the Retta, I would definitely try the
39:49Speaker 1Tessa Ipah.
39:50Speaker 1And if you want some longevity, like you said, I would add in on top of the NAD
39:55Speaker 1SS-31MOTS
39:57Speaker 1C, boom,
39:58Speaker 1good to go.
40:00Speaker 2For sure. I 2nd a lot of that. I don't know. My thoughts on the tirzepatide comment, like,
40:05Speaker 2I understand, yes, you wanna be loyal to that tirzepatide and has 1 done wonders until, like, I don't know. I guess I'm I'm
40:13Speaker 2I'm going with stay sticking with what worked maybe until it doesn't. Right? These are always
40:18Speaker 2we always kinda wanna run things till we hit the plateau and then change it up
40:22Speaker 2and do that again till we end up in plateau.
40:24Speaker 2I will say though with the Tirzepatide versus Retta, like, I bet you'll find
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41:00Speaker 2Oftentimes, people don't quite like they'll start right up and be like, I don't like it as much. It's not working because you do have a little bit more appetite.
41:09Speaker 2Okay? I promise you behind the scenes,
41:12Speaker 2it's burning twice as much fat. And
41:15Speaker 2those of us who, if it's been hard to like to lose that last little bit on your stomach,
41:22Speaker 2like, retard just might be the only key, the only answer that you have. And so Ernst- I would urge you at some point, like, I don't I'm not, you know, you don't have to quit it. It's done well and awesome. Maybe go until you really just do plateau on the tours, but
41:37Speaker 2it might be worth a try for the to go to Retta. But when you do, just give it a month. Okay? You're gonna immediately go and go, oh, well, I feel like I need to eat more. And you might eat a little bit more. And then you might
41:48Speaker 2think you're gaining a little bit of weight, but just stick with it. We've seen it countless times. Right? Somebody said, said this exact same thing. Hey, I didn't, I don't feel it. I don't think it's working, but I just stick with it and the holy shit, I'm on another level now. You know, I'm on Now it's really just burning fat. Plus I feel great. I have more energy.
42:07Speaker 2And it's still gonna inhibit you from eating a lot. K? But it will give you a little bit of appetite, but only appetite for good things. Changes your taste buds a little taste buds away from bad stuff. I know, man. It's weird.
42:19Speaker 2So think about this. So I don't know. You know? Hey. Do do what works. But again, it's and some people I don't know. Do do what you like, but don't don't shut you turn your back on that completely.
42:29Speaker 2You asked about GHK
42:31Speaker 2CU and NAD.
42:33Speaker 2I would do about 2.5 mg of GHK CU
42:38Speaker 2daily, maybe 3 times a week. K? There is such thing as doing too much copper.
42:44Speaker 2And
42:46Speaker 2so 2.5 mg, those usually come at 50 or 100 mg bottles.
42:51Speaker 2So,
42:52Speaker 2hopefully, you could do the math.
42:54Speaker 2NAD plus. So NAD is an interesting 1. B.
42:58Speaker 2So people have sold this in different clinics where they've filled an IV bag, right, and done 1000 mg in a day, usually over 12 hours because it's a form of, like, niacin. And if it goes in too fast, it burns your veins like fire ants. So slowly, but but people could do 1000
43:15Speaker 2migs in a day.
43:17Speaker 2I my my general advice on this and how I do it is I don't definitely don't do it daily, and I'm doing it subcutaneous.
43:26Speaker 2But I start with 5 mg. I go 3 times a week. I gotta set schedule 3 times a week. Start at 5 mg per injection
43:35Speaker 2and then work up every single injection, 5 more milligrams. I'm aiming for 25 mg per injection.
43:42Speaker 2I know lots of people who do a lot more. I just really don't think that your body can actually take in and use much more than that. Right. There
43:51Speaker 2comes a point where you're doing too much,
43:54Speaker 2k, as as you get close to that point, you might do it and, like, start to feel tingling in your your, like, legs.
44:01Speaker 2If you do more and more and more, that tingling can then be just overwhelming
44:06Speaker 2tingling sensation. I've done it to myself. I've been literally paralyzed. It's burning everywhere.
44:12Speaker 2It is just deep breath. I'm not gonna die.
44:16Speaker 2I didn't pass out or die and everything came back, but it was it was kinda weird, man. My, like, no my nasal cavity just locked
44:23Speaker 2up on me. It is. It
44:26Speaker 2was kinda scary, but I've been through some
44:28Speaker 2really like scary shit. And so I figured this is not the way
44:33Speaker 2that it ends.
44:34Speaker 2So-
44:35Speaker 1AD got him. Yeah.
44:38Speaker 2Only man that died of peptides. Only man that died of peptides. William GH. I don't think that's gonna happen, but so 25 mg, 3 days a week. Oh, but I was gonna say, I would go at your own pace until you get to about 1000 mg total. Okay? And if that takes you 2 months, great. If that takes you 3 months off,
44:55Speaker 2Then,
44:56Speaker 2you give a little mud break and then
44:59Speaker 2repeat.
45:00Speaker 2Rinse and repeat
45:01Speaker 2and do that for,
45:03Speaker 2hell, years if you want to continue to look younger and feel younger. MOTS-seventy
45:08Speaker 21 is basically just gonna give you more energy throughout the day, like ATP
45:13Speaker 2energy, cellular energy,
45:15Speaker 2not caffeine buzz energy, so good, long, sustainable energy.
45:21Speaker 2And
45:22Speaker 2yeah,
45:24Speaker 2there you go.
45:25Speaker 1Rock and Yep.
45:26Speaker 1Let's see.
45:29Speaker 1Hello, 47 male on old school bodybuilding diet. I'm six'four, 2 65 pounds.
45:35Speaker 1I'm looking to lean out more.
45:38Speaker 1I'm looking to lean out more in 2026.
45:41Speaker 1I'm on Cessna on 250 and MPP plus a daily dose of Tadafinil,
45:46Speaker 1which is
45:49Speaker 1and
45:50Speaker 1dosed at 20 mg per day, which is a lot.
45:54Speaker 1I want to start the peptide route, not going to add any more AAS
45:59Speaker 1steroids.
46:00Speaker 1Where's a good route to start? HGH with testosterone
46:03Speaker 1question mark.
46:05Speaker 1What are your thoughts? Just looking slimmed down more body fat. Thank you. Huge supporter of the show, by the way, Mastroon is also my favorite as well.
46:14Speaker 1Well, I like Mastroon as well, buddy.
46:16Speaker 1It's always been 1 of my favorite compounds. I mean, we're heavily into peptides, but, you know, Will and I have dabbled through some
46:24Speaker 1of that stuff through the years. You know, we're getting older, so definitely not as much as we used to.
46:29Speaker 1But we know about them. You tried them. We don't deny it.
46:32Speaker 1Mastroon's great. Mastroon and Winstraw always would be 2 of my favorites when it comes to that type of stuff. But
46:38Speaker 1what
46:39Speaker 1should you add? Well, if you want to get leaned out, my opinion is always going be Reta. Everybody
46:44Speaker 1that, you mean you talk, if you can wait, you got bodybuilders,
46:48Speaker 1you got gym rats, you got people trying to lose weight. Everybody's doing well on it. Just contingent upon the dose.
46:53Speaker 1Now that's going to be huge. You can add an attestamorelin,
46:56Speaker 1Ipamorelin at night. You can add in an AOD.
47:00Speaker 1AOD
47:01Speaker 1is just, I, my buddy,
47:03Speaker 1Doctor. Scott actually just started that and like, I was trying to tell him to get on it for a long time. He finally did. He's like, Dude, this stuff is freaking amazing. All it does is burn fat, man. It has 1 job burns out. So those 3 together, I mean, there's so many fat burners. I mean, SLU-PP-three
47:19Speaker 132 is an exercise with my medic so that like you can take that and it's not an injectable.
47:25Speaker 1Mean, it can be, but, we like the sub sublingual the best.
47:29Speaker 1So you could do that. Even a 5 amino 1 MQ,
47:33Speaker 1that's going to basically take your fat and burn it as fuel, kind of like a keto diet without doing a keto diet. So those, you could pick them all. You can pick a few out of them. I would say Retta, AOD, Tessa, Ipah. If I had to choose, if you had a couple of bucks more and you really want to burn the hell out of that fat. Can you even try the other 2? I've done it numerous times. I'm huge on fat burners. I love to be super
47:55Speaker 1lean and ripped.
47:56Speaker 1Some heavy into fat burners. That's why I like Mastrone and Lintzraw back in the day, because those 2 are leaners
48:03Speaker 1than cutters, as they would say. So that's
48:06Speaker 1what it is, man. I think that those would do you well. What do you got? I think that, yes, your answer to HGH on top of the TRT-one
48:13Speaker 2100%. That's the logical, that is the progression.
48:17Speaker 2It's
48:19Speaker 2amazing. Those of you know, if you're on tests or you're doing other AAS,
48:23Speaker 2which stands for anabolic angiogenic steroid,
48:27Speaker 2you,
48:29Speaker 2if normally, let's say you would just cut, cut it all, right, and not do any post cycle, you would loo-, you would lose weight. Okay. Lots of muscle was just run off you because your test is now on the floor and your cortisol's way up. Like, it's amazing if you're running growth and not even a lot. Like, he does like 2 IUs. I go I stay between like 2 to 3 IUs a day. You look broken Yes,
48:51Speaker 2I am. Yeah. True. I probably have 50 pounds on you,
48:55Speaker 2maybe more, but it's crazy how, like, you won't lose any muscle.
49:00Speaker 2Yeah. Even if you did everything wrong, now you
49:03Speaker 2might lose a little bit of muscle, but if you do everything right, you won't lose a damn thing. And
49:08Speaker 2that has been like, I don't really do much. I some I run like a low dose of tests.
49:15Speaker 2Everyone Mastron is also my favorite. I've always just liked cutters and Mastron's great. Maybe I might do some Mastron every once in a while, but like, I can't even tell you last time I actually did a cycle of anything. I know it's been a while for you, man. Yeah, it's been a long time. And I think that,
49:31Speaker 2anyway, it took for another day, like I might, might be trying to get
49:35Speaker 2someone pregnant, but-
49:38Speaker 2Someone. Someone, but
49:40Speaker 2not, not the person that lives with me. But yes, the person, the girlfriend, but I also want to do the next step 1st, which is
49:49Speaker 2make her,
49:51Speaker 2calm her nerves
49:52Speaker 2not be pregnant without a,
49:54Speaker 2a a husband. So anyway,
49:57Speaker 2again, I don't even want to get into this right now, but,
50:01Speaker 2dude, yeah. So, so HGH for sure, man. That's what's, it's gonna keep muscle on you. It's not gonna make you big. People think HGH is like some miracle drug. Oh, I wanna get jacked and all that. They'll healed. It's
50:13Speaker 2not even about that, but like you, it'll make things easier. It'll speed your metabolism,
50:19Speaker 2and you sure as hell won't lose any muscle. So my guess is you have a decent amount of muscle on you because based on your height and weight and, um- NPP.
50:27Speaker 2Yes. And in fact, you're doing NPP and have done other stuff. So HGH for sure, dude, long term play. Okay. Start it
50:35Speaker 2every day. Just go. Don't even, don't even, don't even think about, you know, how long you've been doing it. I would go for 10 years,
50:43Speaker 2not longer. Don't even expect much either, 6 months. I would also start it now. Don't like, all right, I'm gonna get off of the test and all the AAS and then start my HGH. That doesn't make sense. Start your HGH so it's actually working before you decide to get off anything. Yeah. Also,
51:00Speaker 2just disclaimer, peptides, peptides, they are
51:03Speaker 2The 1 thing that there is not anything that's great for is putting extra muscle on a decently muscled man. Yeah. All right. They're
51:12Speaker 2just not that strong enough, right? That's why there's no side effects. That's why there's tons of side effects from steroids.
51:17Speaker 2Because that stuff works really, really well for putting on muscle. So there is no peptide that's going to match any of that stuff.
51:25Speaker 2IGF-1LR-three
51:26Speaker 2is something maybe to look at. It's kind of your best muscle building 1.
51:31Speaker 1MK-677,
51:32Speaker 1which is not an actual peptide.
51:35Speaker 1A non peptide secretagogue.
51:37Speaker 1So it's comparable to like a CJC or a Tesamorelin,
51:41Speaker 1but that 1 in particular,
51:43Speaker 1it's kind of like a SARM peptide, even though that's not the exact name.
51:47Speaker 1It would be like an ANNOVAR.
51:49Speaker 1And I can say this because I've done them both. It's very similar in regards to my opinion on MK-3.
51:55Speaker 1Because you eat a lot more for 1, and that's, know, I love, I love quoting Rich Piena. When you get big, you gotta eat big, you know? So
52:03Speaker 1something like that. We recommend that for a lot of bodybuilder or like guys that like to bulk that are just trying to stay a little bit like get
52:10Speaker 1off the juice and go that route. So it's definitely a little bit cleaner. So MK. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
52:16Speaker 2And MK is basically like ipamorelin,
52:19Speaker 2but more it's in the same classification. So it works on your gorrelin receptor, which boosts your hunger.
52:25Speaker 2So
52:26Speaker 2I don't know, bro. You're gonna have to try everything he said about the fat burners and leaning out, I will 2nd, and I will not re explain
52:33Speaker 2his explanations.
52:34Speaker 2Okay?
52:35Speaker 2Alright. Badum. Good job, man. Yep. Yes.
52:40Speaker 1Sorry guys, I'm a little sick. Alright. I will go.
52:44Speaker 2Oh, I'm I'm 40 I'm 56. Yeah. Okay. I'm a 56 year old female
52:48Speaker 2and new to discovering the benefits of peptides. I took
52:52Speaker 2tripeptide
52:53Speaker 2for 3 months and lost 35 pounds.
52:55Speaker 2Probably just talking about Retta. And now weigh 1 30, and my body fat percent is 18%.
53:01Speaker 2That's that's lean,
53:03Speaker 2for a woman. I work out 3 to 5 times a week and would like to see more definition, but also help with saggy skin and the weight loss slash age and antiaging.
53:13Speaker 2What would you recommend for me? Where would you recommend me getting it? And there is so much out there. I'm not sure what is legitimate or not. I've I I hear you.
53:22Speaker 2I'm currently taking NAD, GHK
53:25Speaker 2and CJC,
53:26Speaker 2Ipamorelin
53:27Speaker 2blend that I obtained through an online physician. Love your podcast. Thanks. Well, so 1st of all, DM us.
53:36Speaker 2DM JD probably more.
53:38Speaker 2Me too, but he's a better responder.
53:40Speaker 2Yeah.
53:41Speaker 2And
53:43Speaker 2he can help you with kinda with good
53:45Speaker 2good sourcing.
53:46Speaker 2K?
53:49Speaker 2I don't know. I mean, shoot. 1st of all, 18% is damn
53:54Speaker 2good.
53:54Speaker 2Oh, Saggy Skin Bite what? So GHK-
53:57Speaker 2is where it's at. I think there, I would say SNAP-eight,
54:01Speaker 2you can
54:02Speaker 2connect there's injectable SNAP-eight, right, and it works only locally.
54:06Speaker 2It's still a peptide. And for specific like saggy skin spots, that's absolutely
54:13Speaker 2worth a shot, 100%.
54:15Speaker 1It
54:16Speaker 2is kind of, it's what
54:19Speaker 2makes Botox Botox.
54:21Speaker 2You will see it often in serums.
54:24Speaker 2So
54:25Speaker 2we have a serum that I would like to just point out something. I don't even think you realize this, the concentration of ours. It's amazing, but- No, I read that.
54:33Speaker 1From the cannabis? Yeah. I saw that. Yeah.
54:37Speaker 2So-
54:38Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah.
54:40Speaker 2Oh, wow. But some blue. Serum is
54:43Speaker 2well, so SNAP AID helps just tighten your skin up a bit. So you can inject it or maybe just topically put it on wherever. I don't know if it's really gonna, you know, it's good like facial serum topically, you know, snap a bit. I don't see it, I don't know, if you have an inch loose skin
54:59Speaker 2sucking that much up. Oh yeah, why not? Depends. Depends. Depends.
55:03Speaker 2I think that GHKCU,
55:05Speaker 2even BPC,
55:06Speaker 2just because the angiogenesis
55:08Speaker 2is forming, like, creating new blood vessels, it actually is good for your damn skin too. Because, right,
55:13Speaker 2brings life and, you know, and the newness. People who smoke nicotine,
55:17Speaker 2you know, they have developed wrinkles because Yeah. Because nicotine is deoxygenating
55:22Speaker 2and deblooding the skin, and
55:25Speaker 2so your skin starts to die off.
55:27Speaker 2That's why you get loose and wrinkled. So BPC, frankly, might even help. I
55:34Speaker 2don't know what else she asked. Go ahead. I think that's great. I think that
55:39Speaker 1nails it. I mean, if you're, you know, where your age is at, it's just kind of part of the game. How much loose skin he's right. I mean,
55:46Speaker 1I no longer inject a sub Q in my belly just because I've done it for so long. There's some areas where I just kind of felt like the skin was getting thicker because I'd done it for so long.
55:57Speaker 1I've injected the SNAP-eight recently and I, whether I always say this, whether it's placebo or not, it sure seems like it's thinning that little fatty part out. So try that. They call it Botox in a bottle for a reason.
56:11Speaker 1So you can try it again.
56:12Speaker 1Don't say how much skin, but then like Will said, you can also rub that
56:17Speaker 1serum in that area. That's what it's for.
56:21Speaker 1GHK-
56:23Speaker 1has multiple
56:24Speaker 1things that it does, but skin, hair, nails is where it really shines.
56:29Speaker 1So you're definitely on a good track there.
56:34Speaker 2I recommend getting in also on my side. Yeah, so shoot me a DM
56:38Speaker 1depending on where you found us and
56:41Speaker 1we can help you and you can ask us or our team some other questions in regards to safe
56:46Speaker 1places to get in and so to speak. Yep.
56:49Speaker 2All right. I
56:51Speaker 1lost about 40 pounds with TRT and diet and exercise. Good for you. That's huge. I started Peptide Journey and another 20 pounds just fell off and the excess fat just keeps falling off. Cool, man. Started at 3 20 while it's a lot and I'm down to 2 60. That is so awesome. When I was in the army and in great shape, I was 2 15. So I'm shooting for 2 25. Screw that man, go to 2 15.
57:16Speaker 1You can do it. Loose skin is already starting to show, and I'm sure that it's just the beginning. Are there any peptides and protocols that help with loose skin?
57:25Speaker 1Currently doing TB-five hundred, 1 mg daily, BPC-one hundred 57, 0.5 a mg daily, and Retatrutide 3.5
57:33Speaker 1mg weekly. Just finished the cycle of NAD. Anything else I should look at as well? Want to run that? I feel like we just did our best answer previously. So
57:42Speaker 1if you have a lot of excess
57:43Speaker 1skin because you've lost a lot of weight, you know, there's just nothing that's going to like fix that. It's just unfortunately
57:49Speaker 1probably the surgery, right?
57:51Speaker 2Like that much loose skin. I'll tell you what, like I actually just wrote in my notes here, like I'm going to do some research and asking around and see if there is,
58:00Speaker 2yeah, there is some specific protocol that would really, really target loose skin. I will say, yo, the SNAP-8s. So we have an older woman who we love, and she
58:11Speaker 2was running SNAP-8s early on. Early on, she was doing a bunch of SNAP-8s, injecting it sub q,
58:16Speaker 2and then said, hey, guys, do you guys think that this is really, like, gonna be tightening up my skin everywhere? And we said, no.
58:23Speaker 2No. I don't think. Yeah.
58:25Speaker 2Right. It's just gonna kinda work locally. And she said,
58:29Speaker 2alright. Understood. I'll probably stop, but I'll tell you what, my
58:33Speaker 2belly
58:34Speaker 2skin is way tighter than it ever was before. That's where she was just doing it every, like, every day, 3 days a week. You know? So,
58:42Speaker 2again, depending on how much loose skin we're talking. Right.
58:46Speaker 1For that much weight, I mean, I would imagine you're gonna have Not a of loose
58:50Speaker 2sure, but not to, but I'll, we're gonna look up look it up and
58:54Speaker 2see
58:55Speaker 2what we can find. Alright.
58:58Speaker 1Take us home. Final question.
59:00Speaker 2Hey guys, love the show. 31 year old active male
59:03Speaker 2on an animal based diet, currently around 16%
59:06Speaker 2body fat. Had testicular cancer at 17.
59:09Speaker 2Damn. Surgery only. Bummer.
59:12Speaker 2Fully resolved. I'm on my 1st peptide cycle for GH support, fat loss, energy recovery, Tesamorelin,
59:19Speaker 2Ipamorelin, BPC-
59:21Speaker 2MOTS-9A plus low dose Reta,
59:23Speaker 2Thymosin Alpha. Thinking about increasing my MOTS-3A around workouts,
59:28Speaker 2turning NAD plus more frequently and titrating Reta slightly higher? Question 1, any red flags or smarter tweaks? Question 2, after cutting to 10% body fat, I wanna pivot lean muscle and
59:40Speaker 2skin quality. Does the stack of CJC
59:43Speaker 2that
59:45Speaker 2CJC 12 95 with Ipamot
59:48Speaker 2c NAD plus GHKCU,
59:50Speaker 2BPZ TB make sense? Yeah.
59:54Speaker 2So to address these questions,
59:56Speaker 2I have no red flags other than I think you mentioned the cancer thing and
1:00:01Speaker 2it's been, you know, 14
1:00:03Speaker 2years.
1:00:06Speaker 2So I hope just
1:00:08Speaker 2It sounds like you've thought about this,
1:00:11Speaker 2and I don't think you're asking about the red flags
1:00:14Speaker 2because you are doing growth hormone support. Growth hormone can help tissue,
1:00:19Speaker 2cancerous or not, grow.
1:00:21Speaker 2But
1:00:22Speaker 2it is generally my understanding
1:00:25Speaker 2is if you've been 14 years completely
1:00:28Speaker 2free,
1:00:29Speaker 2then you don't have any more cancer on you. So that's a you
1:00:34Speaker 2question there, Matt.
1:00:37Speaker 2But, and it sounds like you already came
1:00:40Speaker 2over that. So other red flags other than that, dude, like, no,
1:00:44Speaker 2it's everything
1:00:46Speaker 2looks great, dude.
1:00:49Speaker 2You don't tell me
1:00:50Speaker 2what your dosing
1:00:52Speaker 2is.
1:00:53Speaker 2So other than micro dosing Reta, and so everything that you said is like, yeah, cool. Go ahead. Titrate Reta a little bit. You know, you can run. Good. Okay. You can do more NAD, I think.
1:01:05Speaker 2Don't know where you were started.
1:01:07Speaker 2But
1:01:08Speaker 2MOTS c, I generally just try and do, like, 1 mg a day and 5 mg of of SS 31 a day with that.
1:01:17Speaker 2And CJC,
1:01:19Speaker 212 95 with
1:01:21Speaker 2DAC,
1:01:22Speaker 2with Ipi.
1:01:24Speaker 2So I have done
1:01:27Speaker 2our growth hormone
1:01:29Speaker 2is
1:01:31Speaker 2put out in different pulses, about 6 pulses or so a day. That's our natural state and it's like kind of these short releases. Okay?
1:01:39Speaker 2No
1:01:40Speaker 2DAC
1:01:41Speaker 2will
1:01:42Speaker 2keep it short.
1:01:45Speaker 2Okay?
1:01:46Speaker 2The DAC,
1:01:47Speaker 2adding DAC in will make it a really long release. Okay? Which in turn, it's kinda like using a long estrogen steroid versus a short estrogen steroid. Okay?
1:01:58Speaker 2The long Ester 1 over time will be more effective, okay? So with DAC, it's going to release more of a fluid constant
1:02:06Speaker 2growth hormone output, which is not the natural way that it's done. You will end up having more growth hormone, but therefore more potential side effects. Okay? Because it's lingering in you, you're having too much,
1:02:18Speaker 2etcetera, etcetera, versus the shorter 1.
1:02:21Speaker 2It's the more natural way plus they're pulsing
1:02:25Speaker 2then stopping that pulse.
1:02:27Speaker 2There's not as much of a worry about overdoing it. So just FYI,
1:02:31Speaker 2I tend to like to know DAC, okay? You gotta inject it more frequently. With DAC, you get to inject less frequently.
1:02:39Speaker 2But yeah, that's probably the best 1 for the secretagog. That's gonna be the strongest, CGC and Ipamorelin.
1:02:46Speaker 2And IGF-1LR-three,
1:02:48Speaker 2after you're done cutting and you want to add some muscle, I would absolutely try that.
1:02:53Speaker 2Keep in mind, so 10%, 10% folks is like, that's when you get to see a 6 pack as a general rule. So that's a good spot.
1:03:02Speaker 2Mark my words here, though, you might not get to 10% without putting on a good amount of muscle. Alright? Closer you get to 10%, the slower that, the harder it is to get that last fat off. And unfortunately, people usually cut down
1:03:16Speaker 2to get there and they lose muscle on the way there and your metabolism inherently slows down the less muscle that you have and therefore making it almost impossible to get down there without a good amount of muscle.
1:03:28Speaker 2So
1:03:29Speaker 2don't forget about putting on muscle while you're cutting, I guess. Gotta eat. Eat, eat, eat good protein, eat some fat,
1:03:37Speaker 2buy muscle need fat to to grow.
1:03:40Speaker 1Go ahead. This is a thought through question. I mean, you can tell, you put some thought on and you know kind of what you're doing. You can just tell in the question. So I love it. I'm going to take it. He's already answered, I think, that part well, the peptides, I'm going to take it on the left field here that I like to talk about. So,
1:03:56Speaker 1you know, we have a good buddy of ours that had cancer when he was younger and he's asked us about growth
1:04:02Speaker 1hormone peptides, growth hormone security dogs and HGH, and both of us separately answered the same way. We don't think he should do it. Now you're a grown man, you can do what you want. I just think that you could probably get some other things in you, which I wouldn't want to mess with that. But
1:04:16Speaker 1here's another way that you can maybe get some of that growth hormone
1:04:20Speaker 1without taking a secretagog or whatnot is fasting.
1:04:24Speaker 1You should be fasting anyway.
1:04:25Speaker 1I'm obviously anybody that follows my channels. I am huge on it for multiple reasons.
1:04:31Speaker 1I just had this conversation with a buddy of mine that his
1:04:35Speaker 1good friend of his got cancer and he and I were talking about it at the gym and
1:04:40Speaker 1I've read a lot about fasting. I just really geek out on things when I'm super intrigued by them. So for years and years, I read a lot about fasting. If I ever got cancer, 1 of the things that I would do is a 25
1:04:51Speaker 1day fast.
1:04:53Speaker 1Cancer thrives on glucose, so you would starve the hell out of that sucker. There's been a lot of success with people that do that type of stuff. So the reason I'm saying that is
1:05:02Speaker 1I would add fasting into your protocol because of your past regardless.
1:05:06Speaker 1Now I personally
1:05:08Speaker 1would, if you were a good friend of mine, suggest you pull the secretagogues
1:05:12Speaker 1out because you can do an AOD that wouldn't increase your IGF-one
1:05:18Speaker 1or
1:05:18Speaker 1anything in regards to that stuff.
1:05:22Speaker 1AOD is great for a cutter
1:05:24Speaker 1and fat burner,
1:05:26Speaker 1and you don't have to worry about some of that stuff. And I would say just try some fasting. 1, it's amazing for discipline. 2, it's amazing for your body. And 3, when you get to the 16 hour mark, give or take your body's going to start those spurts of the growth hormone.
1:05:42Speaker 1So you're going to get some of that stuff like the old school way.
1:05:46Speaker 1And that way is a little bit safer in my opinion. And if you're gonna be anything like me, once you start tapping into discipline, man, and you really start to open those doors, it's amazing, man. There is this empowerment in
1:06:00Speaker 1the discipline of those types of things. So I would throw some fasting into that. Will already answer the peptide ones well.
1:06:06Speaker 1So I'll throw the diet and fasting in and hope you try that because I think it'll do well for you.
1:06:12Speaker 2Yep. Good stuff. Yeah, man. Good. So
1:06:16Speaker 1that is the last 1 before
1:06:18Speaker 1Will goes under the knife, if it's the knife
1:06:22Speaker 1or the pen, whatever, whatever they do it, we'll see how he does. So the next 1,
1:06:26Speaker 1I think we're going to try to do the Peptide of the Week on Friday if you're up to it. And
1:06:31Speaker 1we asked on the Instagram
1:06:33Speaker 1channel
1:06:34Speaker 1for some people that what, what peptide do you want us to dig into?
1:06:38Speaker 1So a lot of people already responded, so thanks to that. So if you follow us on Instagram,
1:06:44Speaker 1on the story, shoot us a couple of some things that you want us to talk about for the next
1:06:49Speaker 1peptide of the week. We're going to tackle 2, and then coming up in the next week to 2 weeks, we're going to have our 1st doctor on and
1:06:58Speaker 1Doctor. Tyler Stanley,
1:06:59Speaker 1who is a testosterone
1:07:01Speaker 1replacement
1:07:02Speaker 1doctor and he's a friend of ours and that will be fun.
1:07:07Speaker 1So that's the next what's coming up. Everybody give anybody that prays and believes in God, give this dude a throw him up in some prayer. And other than that, we will see you on the next round. I'll take your prayers just in general. But like, I'm not going to under any general anesthesia. I know. There's no life. There's no 1st thing I asked them, like, can they though? I'd be like, you wanna put my No doubt. Right? I hate the dentist. I want to next time if I ever go locally,
1:07:33Speaker 2secret trick,
1:07:34Speaker 2dad always had me wash my mouth out with hydrogen peroxide. Like drink it, no don't swallow it, but,
1:07:41Speaker 2drink it. So I've always done that and
1:07:44Speaker 2we're gonna, like, I have avoided cavities forever. Really? Yeah. Haven't even heard of that. But
1:07:50Speaker 2I hate the dentist. So if I had to do any work, like, I can't even,
1:07:54Speaker 2I was traumatized 1 time that they didn't put the non increase on my gums before they gave me the shot. Oh my god. Was horrible. But
1:08:03Speaker 2I hate it. I just would like them to put me out completely. True that. I think I will, if I ever have to go to the dentist again to get anything done. True that. Like even teeth cleaning, I'm not doing it without being dumb.
1:08:13Speaker 2But yeah, dude, I don't know. I'll be fine, but I will yeah. I mean, I'll take anybody's good.
1:08:18Speaker 2Good wishes. Hell yeah.
1:08:21Speaker 1We'll catch all the help I can get. Catch you in the next round. Later, guys.