Ep 59 · 1:07:34
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0:36Speaker 1so you got a big day tomorrow. I do. It'll be fun. You've been waiting for a while. Yeah, I have. I've been thinking about this Are you for spilling the beans? Yeah, sure.
0:51Speaker 2I've been thinking about, I saw I'm 40, geez, am I 41? I don't know. I think I'm 40. I've done that 1.
0:57Speaker 2And I've been thinking about so I've had I've had hair, and it looks like I'm getting ready. I have some hair. Right? But I wanted to just not
1:08Speaker 2But it's thinning. I don't really care. I'll tell all of you people because you know that all of you are thinking the same thing. Yeah.
1:14Speaker 2That you all would we would all love lots of hair. So I've been thinking about, like, going to Turkey,
1:20Speaker 2which is way cheaper. It's, like, something like $4. I have friends that have done it, like, $4 instead of $30 here.
1:31Speaker 2that's it. Now you gotta buy your air your AirFlight. And then we happen to run across a friend,
1:45Speaker 2Yeah, for almost the same price. For the same price. And he would give me a Well, he'd give me a good deal because we're in business with him.
1:53Speaker 2And so basically, yes, it works out to be about the same price. And I don't have to go spend a week of my life,
1:58Speaker 2you know, in Turkey, even though Turkey would be cool, but it would not be cool. I'm not really gonna go out and be able to sightsee much, you know? It's like, do this, do this transplant and then just lay there and recover for 3 days.
2:22Speaker 2and then maybe rub numbing cream in there, But it's labor intensive. They literally it's like it's almost think think of well, it's like potting. It's like replanting a tree. Right? You gotta cut the roots out. So literally every single pore,
2:49Speaker 2they go in and they look at every follicle and they go so a normal person, every, like, pore has got 2 has got 2 little strands of hair coming out. Right? That's about average. But a lot there are a lot that just have 1. So they have to isolate the ones that just have 1, cut those out, and that's what they create their hairline with. Wow. So you don't have
3:11Speaker 2Interesting. Yeah. And then the rest of them, they want the ones that have 2. If not, mean, even more. Great. And then they they put that in the middle of your head. Right. And the donor, you gotta do it while you're young and you still have lots of hair. And apparently, I still have lots of hair. The
3:24Speaker 2question is, you know, I'm going, like, going a little gray, like, on the sides. And so the donor spot is gonna be
3:39Speaker 1If so, right, if so, oh well, so be it. It's funny, man, when you choose to put your life on social media, know, I don't even know how that all happened, but why you always wearing a hat? Because you're on testosterone, all this stupid stuff, you know, and it's like, listen, I'm 48 years old, dude. Like, I don't know if 48 year old isn't somewhat losing his hair. It's like, jeez, dude, it's not always like such a negative, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's called age. I feel like I'm pretty, like, pretty good for 48. Jesus happens. Let me see. I'm good. Me too. I mean, I'm pretty good for 40, and I just you know, my father still has a full thin air, but my my grandpa, my mom's father was bald
4:18Speaker 2from the your mother's side of the family. Right. Did you get that? Speaking of hair, I actually ran into somebody this morning
4:34Speaker 2right? And she's a young younger girl. She's like, I can't believe how fast my hair is growing back now. Not like growing back, not like she bald, but just growing. She goes, but it is growing growing in darker.
4:57Speaker 2We know it kind of stimulates follicles to grow and grow thicker, but it's interesting that my wife's good
5:12Speaker 2isn't losing her hair. So naturally, she comes in and we talk about it, blah, blah, blah. And we talk about the shampoo and
5:22Speaker 2we've a call a couple of weeks later and she's blown away by it. And she's a no bullshit type girl. She's like,
5:29Speaker 2know, wants to sell it. So why am I saying this? Because it works, man. Why does everybody that tries to It doesn't matter what peptide they start with. It's generally BPC or like a GLP-one, right? For the most part.
5:41Speaker 1But why are peptides growing in popularity so much? Because they're fricking awesome, dude. They work
5:48Speaker 1compared to like Western medicine where they like that you go in there, they spend 2 minutes with you. They don't talk to you. They give you stuff that messes up our gut for the most part.
5:58Speaker 1are already in our body for the most part, right? They're just enhancing or whatever it is, whatever particular peptide.
6:09Speaker 2rad results, Yep. That's why they're growing so damn fast, man, because they freaking work. And not to mention, so we have a friend, we did an episode about the new industry
6:41Speaker 2are basically fast track to be FDA approved. Now, why would they do that? Why would they do that? Think through that.
7:02Speaker 2everybody that they're not addictive, right? And I have 10 dead friends that say otherwise.
7:13Speaker 2but it's a hard besides money, but there's, you know, not with not a lot of money, well, there would be a lot of money, a lot of these other peptides, but it does,
7:22Speaker 2they wanna control it, but the fact is it's, they are good and they are actually working. So it is, something, a commodity that they can control and can make billions off of. So
7:47Speaker 1leave it right there. Peptides are freaking amazing. That's why you're listening to the podcast. That's why the podcast is doing so well. Nothing special about us. The fact that we're talking about things that people are intrigued by and they're interested in, and we like talking about them. We definitely, definitely like trying them. Absolutely. So I guess the last little bit of of the hair, yeah, I'm gonna do that. It's like 7 hours, and, I will
8:19Speaker 2Cool. We'll see you in 6 months. Right. It's not gonna look pretty next week. That's for sure. We'll see what I look like with a shaved head. Kinda have a long head with a
8:28Speaker 1a smallish crown. Yeah. I had a shaved head forever, man. Figured out finally, like, 2 years back, but there's Well, dude, well, cool. Today is the episode we all love. It's the Q and A episode.
8:44Speaker 1So let's why don't you do the honors, man? We always like you to start it off. Alright.
8:48Speaker 2I'll get my glasses. Hey, JD. I've been fortunate enough to find your podcast and listen to every episode a couple of times now to get information,
8:57Speaker 2that you guys provide stuck in my brain. It's great to see you 2 blokes telling it how it is and being a 100% honest about what they are putting in their bodies,
9:07Speaker 2as too often people hide it for sure. Again, my friends who have been like, man, the testosterone I've done, dude, has saved my life.
9:17Speaker 2It has made in new man, it's the best thing. Hey, but just don't tell anybody that I'm doing this. Okay? You asshole.
9:26Speaker 2Okay. I have a request, and I'm not sure that it's something that can be done on the podcast. Solid favor. Need to send it to me privately. Right? I'm currently battling with tendonitis in my elbow. Has been about 4 months. Recently started on Glow. I've heard you guys say you can inject straight into where the injury is, but I'm a little scared of injecting into my tendon. My question to you is, are you able to do a video on how to do this, please? I have so many questions for you, but,
9:54Speaker 2but now this is 1 of my biggest. I should add I had tendonitis in my right elbow for many months, ended up having a cortisone injection,
10:02Speaker 2which helped immensely. Yeah. But but, I thought I would try peptides before going back to a cortisone injection. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks again for being awesome, guys. I appreciate all the knowledge,
10:22Speaker 1I've heard- We get a lot of people hooking this up, but you want me to start? I mean- You wanna start? Do wanna- I'll start because I have some immediate answers. Go it.
10:31Speaker 2BPC, like tendonitis, BPC is the thing for tendonitis. Like, that's its job. It's really- Right into that tendonitis, baby. Tendonitis.
10:38Speaker 2I have said this previously that I've had bad tendonitis and have injected just directly into my tendon. Okay. And
10:49Speaker 2use, I use a brand new needle, so it goes in. It's kinda, you can, I mean, you can almost like feel it?
10:59Speaker 2you know, it doesn't just go through, like, your, like, skin or muscle. So Yeah. You kinda feel it. I went slow. I'm like, damn. This feels kinda weird.
11:11Speaker 2you can hopefully see the veins. Right? You better not have any blood that comes back in.
11:17Speaker 2The needle, I don't know how graphic we're allowed to be. I don't know I don't think we're
11:22Speaker 2we're ready to do a video just because that's why you said message you privately, so thank you. But,
11:27Speaker 2putting it right in there and and injecting it every day really, really worked for me.
11:35Speaker 2you you know, you could go really close to the tendon also. Right? Subcu there, intramuscular there, but not, you know, point into the tendon.
11:47Speaker 2So there's that Cortisone scares me. Like, there's a reason that, you know, most doctors, most doctors are
11:52Speaker 2they don't wanna give people cortisone injections more than like twice a year because it just destroys, well, your, like, cartilage.
12:00Speaker 2So and all it's doing is masking the pain. Yeah. Actually, I mean, it might be reducing inflammation, and that is all tendonitis is. It's just chronic
12:10Speaker 2So but I would abs do what you're doing. Stay away from the cortisone. Yeah. Objection. Because it's not it's not gonna it's not really it's gonna help right now. Yeah. Cool. Because you don't feel it.
12:26Speaker 1BPC will heal that condition. Well, it did for me multiple times and for lots of friends.
12:33Speaker 2Hands in. Hell yeah. And the glow, now you said you're gonna do glow. That's cool. It's got BPC and TB and GHK-
12:41Speaker 2That's gonna sting a little bit going in there. I would frankly just do high doses of BPC and TB. Yep. Right in there. Wondering what That's my answer. Yeah, I would say
13:00Speaker 1there ain't nothing better than the Wolverine dude. I've used it countless times. I am still blown away by how freaking good it works. I was just, I just actually dropped a video driving
13:12Speaker 1the Wolverine healed my chest. I'm still blown away. I literally thought I was going to have problems like, oh dude, I'm not going be able to do my chest forever. I was like, bomb dude. And like, I started blasting it right away and I'm still amazed. Like it healed it so freaking fast.
13:31Speaker 1much can you afford? You can blast it. I think that is such a good compound. And I am really going to say that 1 in particular, the Wolverine, if you can afford it, do quite a bit because it will expedite the healing. Now, if you can afford a little, then do a little, still will do well. It might take a little bit longer to heal, but Will and I know countless people with tendinitis and the BPC,
13:54Speaker 2Just wherever it's at, Wherever it happens to be. I don't know. Some people get it here, right? Some people get it right here. These 2.
14:00Speaker 2And you will notice, guys, everybody's healing cycle is like this. So you, when it's really inflamed and it really hurts the pain, and I'm just using this, this is where my tendon always hurts, okay? But that pain may, some people are like, oh, I don't even know where it originates, right? Because it is now so bad and that inflammation is everywhere and it's hurting me from here to here, right? You will notice though that pain will start to centralize.
14:26Speaker 2if that's central point. Okay. That is a good sign. We know things are healing if that's happening. So don't say, oh man, it's even, it's like hurting more. It's more sensitive. So this must be bad. Yeah. That's actually a good sign. If the
14:43Speaker 2down to a very specific spot, but pain goes up, that's great. You're on the cusp of actually truly healing it now.
14:50Speaker 2So going. And when he says a lot, like, I'd say a reasonable lot is 2 mgs a day. Yeah. That's good. 2 mg a day of of TB and BPC.
15:09Speaker 1I was doing it morning and night. I was able to, and, like, I brought a big bottle of the BPC. It was actually the only bottle when I was in Cabo. I was only BPC,
15:18Speaker 1but I did it in the morning and night because again, I was like, Oh man, this sucks. I do not want to, I'm going to have this tear. I was really worried about the tear. It was that bad.
15:29Speaker 1proof from my back surgery doing it like that morning and night in high doses and how fast it helped, dude. So like, I am sold. And again, I've had numerous injuries since and like, damn, this stuff works so good. It's insane.
15:43Speaker 1Brother. Much better. And thank you for the support, all the way out in Australia, man. A lot of Aussies listening. I love it.
15:59Speaker 1They last and be effective? Grateful for both of you sharing your experience, strength, and hope. Good stuff.
16:06Speaker 1Stuff. I mean, about 2 years, I would say stored in the fridge. They last a long time before you mix them, man. So
16:19Speaker 1going to happen in 2026. So I think anybody that can afford a bit, stock up, why not? Not going go bad. So all you're doing is just being prepared. You know? I got some in my fridge at the house just in case too and whatever.
16:34Speaker 2so there's a couple of things you don't keep away from light and heat. If you're gonna go really long term, well, a, number 1, don't mix them. Alright?
16:42Speaker 2Where he's taught when he says 2 years, that means unmixed still in their powder form. Yeah.
16:52Speaker 2Don't freeze them. Like, if we're talking, like, 10 years, freeze them. Okay? Really cold, but we're not. I don't think. So fridge and the little tip, like put them in the crisper.
17:11Speaker 2K? What you do not want, though, is if it's cold, but you better not let any condensation
17:32Speaker 2a they'll last plenty long unmixed. Yeah. As soon as you mix them, you know No. It depends on the it depends on the peptide, but
17:45Speaker 2Tirzepatide and had it for 6 months and it still works. So I've had some Melanotan that had been in my
17:51Speaker 1fridge forever and I had done it forever. Like, yeah, I'll do it for a week. And then I'm like, it still works. PT-one hundred 40 one's probably been there for
18:02Speaker 2But yeah, the key, I guess, don't mix them. Don't mix it before storage. And I like your I mean, those who know know, and he says,
18:10Speaker 2thanks for sharing your experience, strength, and hope. I think that there's a lot a bill. Yeah. So right on.
18:21Speaker 2so much from you both every week. There's a lot of information being shared, and I often find myself wondering whether you'd consider a show website
18:32Speaker 2Another thing that would be great would be a peptide cheat sheet. It would be so beneficial to have an updated place to
18:39Speaker 2look up a particular peptide or blend, what it is used for, typical doses, dose range for both men and women, frequency, forms, availability, reconstitution amount, etcetera.
18:50Speaker 2You could link to your products or others you'd like. Just a thought, I've looked up, the Peptide Research Institute,
19:41Speaker 2Yeah. Mhmm. It's a big undertaking, especially, like, cystic current with all the services protocols because, like, hey. New info comes out.
19:50Speaker 2Then you start getting into it and you're like, oh, well, let's add this. But then if you add that, you gotta add that for every every for every single 1 and
19:58Speaker 2deal with the formatting. I don't know. It's maybe making excuses, but it's just a lot of work. And we're and I've been
20:19Speaker 0that's high performance loving. Everything you need to lock in and unlock your potential at Equinox.
20:36Speaker 1they get nailed on social media channels. I mean, even YouTube, which we thought was a little bit safer, we've got nailed on there a little bit, but so we
20:46Speaker 1because we do not want to have any of those taken down because we put a lot of work into those over the last year, year and 0.5. So what we've decided to do is pull people off their social media is on to kind of our own type of a deal where we'll have some of that stuff where we can talk freely
21:01Speaker 1and not just Will and I, I mean, anybody at this company is extremely passionate. They're all knowledgeable.
21:11Speaker 1Will and I only kind of work around people that are very passionate about the stuff we do. So you'll be able to talk to a lot of different people that are really into this stuff, and I think that you will enjoy it. It'll be good. Still works.
22:27Speaker 1Merry Christmas, love you guys. Well, 1st and foremost, man, those numbers are extremely high. I mean, the 11.64,
22:44Speaker 1Most people talk about the free tests. I mean, the total tests and not the free test, which is kind of odd because that's where you get your energy, drive and certain things. So free test is actually really important.
23:11Speaker 2kick ass. You're you're see you'll sex hormone binding globulin, right, is probably super low,
23:17Speaker 2which is awesome. That's what just kind of takes up your androgen receptor space. So not all of your total tests can actually grab on and therefore
23:29Speaker 1So I'm sorry, Kurie, Kurie. You're good. Your estradiol is at 74, which is pretty high. So like an optimal,
23:47Speaker 1Because testosterone is obviously converting estrogen and when that happens for most, like me,
23:59Speaker 1If so, should you start the AI? Absolutely. I think that you should anyway. Now, there's
24:05Speaker 1a lot of stuff out there where certain people saying don't take an AI, blah, blah. Listen,
24:10Speaker 1everybody has a man of opinion. I posted something about like, were talking about this in 1 of the posts and it's just like, dude, people just attack it. Listen, if you don't want to take it, then don't take it. We take it. If I get, if I'm getting gyno, I'm going to take, I'm going to take an AI. So if you have a problem with that, don't take it. You know what mean? Like, live and let live, man. I'm assuming with those numbers, my brother, you are definitely probably getting some gyno issues.
24:37Speaker 1So my suggestion would be absolutely. You do not want to get gyno to the degree where it grows to the factory, you can't fix it. I've had the surgery because of my testosterone for since day 1 converts
24:51Speaker 1know, long before I knew what I was doing, it converted estrogen to the degree where I had to get it cut out. And it still comes back. People think if you have the surgery that you can't get it, that's wrong. It's
25:03Speaker 1wrong. So, yeah, that would be my thing in regards to that. Look at the signs, your numbers are high,
25:22Speaker 1I think you could do a little bit more. I mean, you could just do 0.5 of a mg Monday, Wednesday, Friday and go up a little bit.
25:38Speaker 1you got to find your sweet spot on a lot of this stuff. And that takes time. It takes experimenting.
25:53Speaker 1I like the carnivore diet, but that doesn't mean that I know all just because it works for me. It doesn't mean it's going to work for you. You got to find what works for you.
26:00Speaker 1My suggestion is up the red a little bit, and I would probably take AI because I'm thinking you probably are converting estrogen and you're gonna get some gyno.
26:08Speaker 2What do you got? Yeah, I mean, I guess at 1st glance, I was gonna say, well, you're that Enclomiphene dose 6.25
26:28Speaker 2You're not, I mean, look, dude, you say you're telling me that you're not taking testosterone.
26:34Speaker 2Did he say that? Kick. Yeah. I guess I they didn't say he is. Just said he was taking enclomiphene.
27:01Speaker 2that's great. Now your estrogen being at 74, like, I will 2nd that. Like, that I mean, absolute that's why your doctor told you to take take inastrozole
27:36Speaker 2you may think, okay, my estrogen's probably high. Acne, if you're getting, you know, dotted out, you start, I don't know, you have any, like, more breakouts than usual anywhere Chest and back. Especially chest and back where you shouldn't have it. That's all estrogen and easily fixed. And then gyno, he's right. Right? Your body is gonna start growing
28:00Speaker 2Your nipples will be start to be sore and sensitive, and that's a sign that the estrogen is high and that your body is trying to build that fat. And if if left unchecked and you do not take an estrogen
28:19Speaker 2I actually talked to a girl yesterday, and I was like, that's the fat that can't be cut that has to be cut out, can't be burnt off. And they're like, well, bullshit. How come every time I lose weight, I I only I burn off all my tits?
28:33Speaker 2Maybe it works different for in men, but, or it's different than this the the kind of fake breasts that men shouldn't have when we grow fat. Yeah. The guys, you can't burn that off. And so the goal is to never let it grow. Okay?
28:46Speaker 2So if you are experiencing any of those 4 symptoms, I would absolutely start the REMEDX. And people are tripping
28:58Speaker 2I guarantee 90% of those people out in line that are are geared up and giant and they say they'd never take Remodex, they're lying to you.
29:15Speaker 2So as little as possible, but to get no to have no side effects. Okay? There is a life where you can take testosterone or or or something else, I guess, to really elevate your testosterone
29:33Speaker 2And I've talked about that before. So we just kinda take it till symptoms are gone daily, take it till symptoms are gone, then back up 3 days a week. And then maybe every 2 weeks, pull out, you know, 0.5 a pill, 0.5 a milligram.
29:47Speaker 2as long as, hey, no symptoms, great. You can drop another 0.5 mg. No symptoms, great. As soon as you drop another milligram and some of the symptoms come back, well, maybe last week was your sweet spot.
30:03Speaker 2test scores, especially if you're not actually taking testosterone. That kicks ass. Good for you. The boron and dim, like, yeah, that might lower your estrogen a little bit. Alright.
30:13Speaker 2Cool. Maybe and you said it had. Like, that's correct. That that does. But if we if you're somebody who actually has an estrogen problem
30:20Speaker 2and you're having gyno, I would not rely on boron and dim. I'm taking dim times and Yeah. It doesn't really do much.
30:33Speaker 2Alright. Moving on. Who's up? Mew? I am. So hey, bro. It's Charlie from Sydney, Australia here. Awesome. Love the pod.
30:41Speaker 2Keep up the great work. My question is with a lot of peptides still being research chemicals,
30:52Speaker 2I've seen a few videos regarding this, and I'm not sure if they're legitimate or not. Many thanks in advance. Yeah, I mean,
30:59Speaker 2I think the fact that their research chemicals has not much to has nothing to do about it, you know, has nothing to do with it.
31:29Speaker 2But that is not worry about that is not what do you mean? There are and then but yes, I mean, I worry about desensitization
31:49Speaker 2none of these are and that's why I have said that, hey, guys. Even the stuff that is totally okay for you, there's not gonna give you any real side effects
31:59Speaker 2long term. I still have said, hey, I think you should go 4 months and then take a couple couple week break
32:04Speaker 2specifically for that reason. Right? Because you build this tolerance and you are less sensitive to it, and then therefore it's not doing
32:11Speaker 2the same thing as it should. And so it's a good idea to give yourself breaks. Now I'm not worried about, like, forever
32:47Speaker 2unrepairing your your receptors. Right? But so no. But I still think, hey. A couple weeks break,
32:52Speaker 2then they'll then then everything will be back to normal. Right? There is, like, people talk about metabolic damage and like, hey, you know, ask any bodybuilder,
33:15Speaker 2you'll do some cuts and then you'll try to, you know, you'll get you'll gain some weight or whatever, and you'll try to cut like, man, this stuff just isn't working. My body isn't responding. Yes, because you've kind of done some metabolic damage. What you need to do then is
33:29Speaker 2chill and live your life. Eat some normal food, eat some normal healthy meals for a few months. Right? Back up on the psycho working out and
33:38Speaker 2don't take heavy doses of fat burners. In fact, maybe let's just not take any fat burners as supplements. Let your body just get back to its normal equilibrium.
34:12Speaker 2God knows what he's doing. God knows what he's doing. When I 1st got into doing testosterone, you hear all these things about like, oh, you know, you'll never have a kid. Like what I have been amazed with after seeing thousands of people is like,
34:30Speaker 2and abuse and abuse and abuse. But despite all of our best efforts to just kill our own natural testosterone, damn, that thing still keeps coming back. And people still can have babies.
34:47Speaker 1Cool. Alright, where we at? Let's see. Last 1. Alright. What's the best thing if Retta is no longer available? I currently take Retta for weight loss and blood sugar regulation.
35:12Speaker 1but you will be able to get it. So I would not worry about you being able to get it. The cost just might be higher.
35:19Speaker 2What do you got? True that. Yeah, supply is not gonna be a problem. It's just cost will.
35:26Speaker 2That's about that's about it. If you wanna DM us, we can kinda tell you, yeah, some spots to that will be, like, foolproof or recession proof.
35:38Speaker 2but if we wanna say, okay, let's say, Retta was never invented, but we know this idea of what it does.
35:53Speaker 2It helps more for your brain, makes your brain just more satious. You're not walking around looking for any type of dopamine spike. So it helps people who love to eat sweets, cut back on sweets
36:05Speaker 2yeah. No. It's not looking not looking to satisfy that part of our brain. Because believe it or not, I mean, that is a 1 of our major functional drivers of us human beings is food. Right? We are built
36:17Speaker 2with the survival mechanism to need to eat and to search for it. Right? Yeah. Or else the species
36:29Speaker 2God knows what he's doing. Yeah, knows what he's doing, man. Does whatever it takes to
36:41Speaker 2Yeah. But I think it'd be alright. You'll probably find it available. Find it cheap. 30 year old, 38 year old female, 3 kids, eat healthy, work out 6 days a week. 3 to 4 of those days are heavyweight training days. Also, I do a mix of HIIT and zone 2 cardio,
37:00Speaker 22 Migs a week in August, and it has helped with every aspect of my life. Lost 20 pounds of bloat and inflammation, healed my gut, so much more.
37:10Speaker 2my labs, and my inflammation is way down. My cholesterol is in the normal range for the 1st time in my adult life. Yep. I don't know about you.
37:46Speaker 2Also, though, I do not want to lose any more weight, I'd love to try and tone up my stomach a bit more.
37:55Speaker 2do you think of this stack with the goal to maintain weight, increase muscle, increase energy,
38:00Speaker 2and adjust for general longevity. I also plan on staying on the microdose of Zepatide for the foreseeable future since it has truly saved my life,
38:09Speaker 2changed my life, and thank you for the wealth of knowledge and you have provided me through this podcast. I look forward to each and every episode.
38:21Speaker 1I think that, without even us reading this together, I think we're both gonna probably answer 1 of them with the right same answer, which is we're going to say, get off the Tirzepatide and go with the Retrutide. It's just a superior product. I think you'll like it more.
38:34Speaker 1So you definitely want to do that. Thoughts on Tessa Ipamorelin. I think it's amazing.
38:42Speaker 1that will do it. It focuses right on that bottom belly fat. We've discussed it numerous times on this podcast. It's the 1 peptide,
38:53Speaker 1literally will focus in on that fat. So should you do it? Yes, I think it would be great. I would switch the tirzepatide.
39:00Speaker 1I know it's done wonders for you, but if you liked your appetite, you'll probably love Revitrutide.
39:11Speaker 1And then if you feel like you've got to the point where you're good, you can always pull it out. You can always go back on. So it's never going to be a bad thing.
39:35Speaker 1Some women can't handle the sting, but my buddy over here has figured out a way to even diminish the sting, so that should be fine. But I think that you're doing great. I would pull the Tirz, I would go with the Retta, I would definitely try the
40:00Speaker 2For sure. I 2nd a lot of that. I don't know. My thoughts on the tirzepatide comment, like,
40:05Speaker 2I understand, yes, you wanna be loyal to that tirzepatide and has 1 done wonders until, like, I don't know. I guess I'm I'm
40:13Speaker 2I'm going with stay sticking with what worked maybe until it doesn't. Right? These are always
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41:00Speaker 2Oftentimes, people don't quite like they'll start right up and be like, I don't like it as much. It's not working because you do have a little bit more appetite.
41:15Speaker 2those of us who, if it's been hard to like to lose that last little bit on your stomach,
41:22Speaker 2like, retard just might be the only key, the only answer that you have. And so Ernst- I would urge you at some point, like, I don't I'm not, you know, you don't have to quit it. It's done well and awesome. Maybe go until you really just do plateau on the tours, but
41:37Speaker 2it might be worth a try for the to go to Retta. But when you do, just give it a month. Okay? You're gonna immediately go and go, oh, well, I feel like I need to eat more. And you might eat a little bit more. And then you might
41:48Speaker 2think you're gaining a little bit of weight, but just stick with it. We've seen it countless times. Right? Somebody said, said this exact same thing. Hey, I didn't, I don't feel it. I don't think it's working, but I just stick with it and the holy shit, I'm on another level now. You know, I'm on Now it's really just burning fat. Plus I feel great. I have more energy.
42:07Speaker 2And it's still gonna inhibit you from eating a lot. K? But it will give you a little bit of appetite, but only appetite for good things. Changes your taste buds a little taste buds away from bad stuff. I know, man. It's weird.
42:19Speaker 2So think about this. So I don't know. You know? Hey. Do do what works. But again, it's and some people I don't know. Do do what you like, but don't don't shut you turn your back on that completely.
42:58Speaker 2So people have sold this in different clinics where they've filled an IV bag, right, and done 1000 mg in a day, usually over 12 hours because it's a form of, like, niacin. And if it goes in too fast, it burns your veins like fire ants. So slowly, but but people could do 1000
43:17Speaker 2I my my general advice on this and how I do it is I don't definitely don't do it daily, and I'm doing it subcutaneous.
43:26Speaker 2But I start with 5 mg. I go 3 times a week. I gotta set schedule 3 times a week. Start at 5 mg per injection
43:35Speaker 2and then work up every single injection, 5 more milligrams. I'm aiming for 25 mg per injection.
43:42Speaker 2I know lots of people who do a lot more. I just really don't think that your body can actually take in and use much more than that. Right. There
43:54Speaker 2k, as as you get close to that point, you might do it and, like, start to feel tingling in your your, like, legs.
44:06Speaker 2tingling sensation. I've done it to myself. I've been literally paralyzed. It's burning everywhere.
44:16Speaker 2I didn't pass out or die and everything came back, but it was it was kinda weird, man. My, like, no my nasal cavity just locked
44:38Speaker 2Only man that died of peptides. Only man that died of peptides. William GH. I don't think that's gonna happen, but so 25 mg, 3 days a week. Oh, but I was gonna say, I would go at your own pace until you get to about 1000 mg total. Okay? And if that takes you 2 months, great. If that takes you 3 months off,
46:05Speaker 1What are your thoughts? Just looking slimmed down more body fat. Thank you. Huge supporter of the show, by the way, Mastroon is also my favorite as well.
46:16Speaker 1It's always been 1 of my favorite compounds. I mean, we're heavily into peptides, but, you know, Will and I have dabbled through some
46:24Speaker 1of that stuff through the years. You know, we're getting older, so definitely not as much as we used to.
46:32Speaker 1Mastroon's great. Mastroon and Winstraw always would be 2 of my favorites when it comes to that type of stuff. But
46:39Speaker 1should you add? Well, if you want to get leaned out, my opinion is always going be Reta. Everybody
46:48Speaker 1you got gym rats, you got people trying to lose weight. Everybody's doing well on it. Just contingent upon the dose.
47:03Speaker 1Doctor. Scott actually just started that and like, I was trying to tell him to get on it for a long time. He finally did. He's like, Dude, this stuff is freaking amazing. All it does is burn fat, man. It has 1 job burns out. So those 3 together, I mean, there's so many fat burners. I mean, SLU-PP-three
47:19Speaker 132 is an exercise with my medic so that like you can take that and it's not an injectable.
47:33Speaker 1that's going to basically take your fat and burn it as fuel, kind of like a keto diet without doing a keto diet. So those, you could pick them all. You can pick a few out of them. I would say Retta, AOD, Tessa, Ipah. If I had to choose, if you had a couple of bucks more and you really want to burn the hell out of that fat. Can you even try the other 2? I've done it numerous times. I'm huge on fat burners. I love to be super
47:56Speaker 1Some heavy into fat burners. That's why I like Mastrone and Lintzraw back in the day, because those 2 are leaners
48:06Speaker 1what it is, man. I think that those would do you well. What do you got? I think that, yes, your answer to HGH on top of the TRT-one
48:29Speaker 2if normally, let's say you would just cut, cut it all, right, and not do any post cycle, you would loo-, you would lose weight. Okay. Lots of muscle was just run off you because your test is now on the floor and your cortisol's way up. Like, it's amazing if you're running growth and not even a lot. Like, he does like 2 IUs. I go I stay between like 2 to 3 IUs a day. You look broken Yes,
49:03Speaker 2might lose a little bit of muscle, but if you do everything right, you won't lose a damn thing. And
49:15Speaker 2Everyone Mastron is also my favorite. I've always just liked cutters and Mastron's great. Maybe I might do some Mastron every once in a while, but like, I can't even tell you last time I actually did a cycle of anything. I know it's been a while for you, man. Yeah, it's been a long time. And I think that,
49:40Speaker 2not, not the person that lives with me. But yes, the person, the girlfriend, but I also want to do the next step 1st, which is
50:01Speaker 2dude, yeah. So, so HGH for sure, man. That's what's, it's gonna keep muscle on you. It's not gonna make you big. People think HGH is like some miracle drug. Oh, I wanna get jacked and all that. They'll healed. It's
50:13Speaker 2not even about that, but like you, it'll make things easier. It'll speed your metabolism,
50:19Speaker 2and you sure as hell won't lose any muscle. So my guess is you have a decent amount of muscle on you because based on your height and weight and, um- NPP.
50:27Speaker 2Yes. And in fact, you're doing NPP and have done other stuff. So HGH for sure, dude, long term play. Okay. Start it
50:35Speaker 2every day. Just go. Don't even, don't even, don't even think about, you know, how long you've been doing it. I would go for 10 years,
50:43Speaker 2not longer. Don't even expect much either, 6 months. I would also start it now. Don't like, all right, I'm gonna get off of the test and all the AAS and then start my HGH. That doesn't make sense. Start your HGH so it's actually working before you decide to get off anything. Yeah. Also,
51:03Speaker 2The 1 thing that there is not anything that's great for is putting extra muscle on a decently muscled man. Yeah. All right. They're
51:12Speaker 2just not that strong enough, right? That's why there's no side effects. That's why there's tons of side effects from steroids.
51:17Speaker 2Because that stuff works really, really well for putting on muscle. So there is no peptide that's going to match any of that stuff.
51:49Speaker 1And I can say this because I've done them both. It's very similar in regards to my opinion on MK-3.
51:55Speaker 1Because you eat a lot more for 1, and that's, know, I love, I love quoting Rich Piena. When you get big, you gotta eat big, you know? So
52:03Speaker 1something like that. We recommend that for a lot of bodybuilder or like guys that like to bulk that are just trying to stay a little bit like get
52:10Speaker 1off the juice and go that route. So it's definitely a little bit cleaner. So MK. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
52:19Speaker 2but more it's in the same classification. So it works on your gorrelin receptor, which boosts your hunger.
52:26Speaker 2I don't know, bro. You're gonna have to try everything he said about the fat burners and leaning out, I will 2nd, and I will not re explain
52:55Speaker 2Probably just talking about Retta. And now weigh 1 30, and my body fat percent is 18%.
53:03Speaker 2for a woman. I work out 3 to 5 times a week and would like to see more definition, but also help with saggy skin and the weight loss slash age and antiaging.
53:13Speaker 2What would you recommend for me? Where would you recommend me getting it? And there is so much out there. I'm not sure what is legitimate or not. I've I I hear you.
53:27Speaker 2blend that I obtained through an online physician. Love your podcast. Thanks. Well, so 1st of all, DM us.
54:25Speaker 2we have a serum that I would like to just point out something. I don't even think you realize this, the concentration of ours. It's amazing, but- No, I read that.
54:43Speaker 2well, so SNAP AID helps just tighten your skin up a bit. So you can inject it or maybe just topically put it on wherever. I don't know if it's really gonna, you know, it's good like facial serum topically, you know, snap a bit. I don't see it, I don't know, if you have an inch loose skin
55:08Speaker 2is forming, like, creating new blood vessels, it actually is good for your damn skin too. Because, right,
55:17Speaker 2you know, they have developed wrinkles because Yeah. Because nicotine is deoxygenating
55:39Speaker 1nails it. I mean, if you're, you know, where your age is at, it's just kind of part of the game. How much loose skin he's right. I mean,
55:46Speaker 1I no longer inject a sub Q in my belly just because I've done it for so long. There's some areas where I just kind of felt like the skin was getting thicker because I'd done it for so long.
55:57Speaker 1I've injected the SNAP-eight recently and I, whether I always say this, whether it's placebo or not, it sure seems like it's thinning that little fatty part out. So try that. They call it Botox in a bottle for a reason.
56:41Speaker 1we can help you and you can ask us or our team some other questions in regards to safe
56:51Speaker 1lost about 40 pounds with TRT and diet and exercise. Good for you. That's huge. I started Peptide Journey and another 20 pounds just fell off and the excess fat just keeps falling off. Cool, man. Started at 3 20 while it's a lot and I'm down to 2 60. That is so awesome. When I was in the army and in great shape, I was 2 15. So I'm shooting for 2 25. Screw that man, go to 2 15.
57:16Speaker 1You can do it. Loose skin is already starting to show, and I'm sure that it's just the beginning. Are there any peptides and protocols that help with loose skin?
57:25Speaker 1Currently doing TB-five hundred, 1 mg daily, BPC-one hundred 57, 0.5 a mg daily, and Retatrutide 3.5
57:33Speaker 1mg weekly. Just finished the cycle of NAD. Anything else I should look at as well? Want to run that? I feel like we just did our best answer previously. So
57:43Speaker 1skin because you've lost a lot of weight, you know, there's just nothing that's going to like fix that. It's just unfortunately
57:51Speaker 2Like that much loose skin. I'll tell you what, like I actually just wrote in my notes here, like I'm going to do some research and asking around and see if there is,
58:00Speaker 2yeah, there is some specific protocol that would really, really target loose skin. I will say, yo, the SNAP-8s. So we have an older woman who we love, and she
58:11Speaker 2was running SNAP-8s early on. Early on, she was doing a bunch of SNAP-8s, injecting it sub q,
58:16Speaker 2and then said, hey, guys, do you guys think that this is really, like, gonna be tightening up my skin everywhere? And we said, no.
58:34Speaker 2skin is way tighter than it ever was before. That's where she was just doing it every, like, every day, 3 days a week. You know? So,
59:12Speaker 2Fully resolved. I'm on my 1st peptide cycle for GH support, fat loss, energy recovery, Tesamorelin,
59:28Speaker 2turning NAD plus more frequently and titrating Reta slightly higher? Question 1, any red flags or smarter tweaks? Question 2, after cutting to 10% body fat, I wanna pivot lean muscle and
1:00:53Speaker 2So other than micro dosing Reta, and so everything that you said is like, yeah, cool. Go ahead. Titrate Reta a little bit. You know, you can run. Good. Okay. You can do more NAD, I think.
1:01:08Speaker 2MOTS c, I generally just try and do, like, 1 mg a day and 5 mg of of SS 31 a day with that.
1:01:31Speaker 2put out in different pulses, about 6 pulses or so a day. That's our natural state and it's like kind of these short releases. Okay?
1:01:47Speaker 2adding DAC in will make it a really long release. Okay? Which in turn, it's kinda like using a long estrogen steroid versus a short estrogen steroid. Okay?
1:01:58Speaker 2The long Ester 1 over time will be more effective, okay? So with DAC, it's going to release more of a fluid constant
1:02:06Speaker 2growth hormone output, which is not the natural way that it's done. You will end up having more growth hormone, but therefore more potential side effects. Okay? Because it's lingering in you, you're having too much,
1:02:31Speaker 2I tend to like to know DAC, okay? You gotta inject it more frequently. With DAC, you get to inject less frequently.
1:02:39Speaker 2But yeah, that's probably the best 1 for the secretagog. That's gonna be the strongest, CGC and Ipamorelin.
1:02:48Speaker 2after you're done cutting and you want to add some muscle, I would absolutely try that.
1:02:53Speaker 2Keep in mind, so 10%, 10% folks is like, that's when you get to see a 6 pack as a general rule. So that's a good spot.
1:03:02Speaker 2Mark my words here, though, you might not get to 10% without putting on a good amount of muscle. Alright? Closer you get to 10%, the slower that, the harder it is to get that last fat off. And unfortunately, people usually cut down
1:03:16Speaker 2to get there and they lose muscle on the way there and your metabolism inherently slows down the less muscle that you have and therefore making it almost impossible to get down there without a good amount of muscle.
1:03:29Speaker 2don't forget about putting on muscle while you're cutting, I guess. Gotta eat. Eat, eat, eat good protein, eat some fat,
1:03:40Speaker 1Go ahead. This is a thought through question. I mean, you can tell, you put some thought on and you know kind of what you're doing. You can just tell in the question. So I love it. I'm going to take it. He's already answered, I think, that part well, the peptides, I'm going to take it on the left field here that I like to talk about. So,
1:03:56Speaker 1you know, we have a good buddy of ours that had cancer when he was younger and he's asked us about growth
1:04:02Speaker 1hormone peptides, growth hormone security dogs and HGH, and both of us separately answered the same way. We don't think he should do it. Now you're a grown man, you can do what you want. I just think that you could probably get some other things in you, which I wouldn't want to mess with that. But
1:04:25Speaker 1I'm obviously anybody that follows my channels. I am huge on it for multiple reasons.
1:04:40Speaker 1I've read a lot about fasting. I just really geek out on things when I'm super intrigued by them. So for years and years, I read a lot about fasting. If I ever got cancer, 1 of the things that I would do is a 25
1:04:53Speaker 1Cancer thrives on glucose, so you would starve the hell out of that sucker. There's been a lot of success with people that do that type of stuff. So the reason I'm saying that is
1:05:26Speaker 1and you don't have to worry about some of that stuff. And I would say just try some fasting. 1, it's amazing for discipline. 2, it's amazing for your body. And 3, when you get to the 16 hour mark, give or take your body's going to start those spurts of the growth hormone.
1:05:46Speaker 1And that way is a little bit safer in my opinion. And if you're gonna be anything like me, once you start tapping into discipline, man, and you really start to open those doors, it's amazing, man. There is this empowerment in
1:06:00Speaker 1the discipline of those types of things. So I would throw some fasting into that. Will already answer the peptide ones well.
1:06:06Speaker 1So I'll throw the diet and fasting in and hope you try that because I think it'll do well for you.
1:06:26Speaker 1I think we're going to try to do the Peptide of the Week on Friday if you're up to it. And
1:06:38Speaker 1So a lot of people already responded, so thanks to that. So if you follow us on Instagram,
1:06:44Speaker 1on the story, shoot us a couple of some things that you want us to talk about for the next
1:06:49Speaker 1peptide of the week. We're going to tackle 2, and then coming up in the next week to 2 weeks, we're going to have our 1st doctor on and
1:07:07Speaker 1So that's the next what's coming up. Everybody give anybody that prays and believes in God, give this dude a throw him up in some prayer. And other than that, we will see you on the next round. I'll take your prayers just in general. But like, I'm not going to under any general anesthesia. I know. There's no life. There's no 1st thing I asked them, like, can they though? I'd be like, you wanna put my No doubt. Right? I hate the dentist. I want to next time if I ever go locally,
1:07:34Speaker 2dad always had me wash my mouth out with hydrogen peroxide. Like drink it, no don't swallow it, but,
1:07:44Speaker 2we're gonna, like, I have avoided cavities forever. Really? Yeah. Haven't even heard of that. But
1:07:54Speaker 2I was traumatized 1 time that they didn't put the non increase on my gums before they gave me the shot. Oh my god. Was horrible. But
1:08:03Speaker 2I hate it. I just would like them to put me out completely. True that. I think I will, if I ever have to go to the dentist again to get anything done. True that. Like even teeth cleaning, I'm not doing it without being dumb.
1:08:13Speaker 2But yeah, dude, I don't know. I'll be fine, but I will yeah. I mean, I'll take anybody's good.