Peptide Q&A #23 – Tendonitis Healing, RETA Storage, Estrogen Control & Long-Term Peptide Use Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-23-tendonitis-healing-reta-storage-estrogen-control-long-term-peptid/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:01 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 0:04 Speaker 0: The space to go further, to feel better, 0:07 Speaker 0: to do something you never thought possible. 0:09 Speaker 0: And this space starts with ultra fit. Unlike traditional running shoes, ultra Fit gives toes more room to move naturally, 0:17 Speaker 0: so every step is strong, balanced, 0:19 Speaker 0: and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. Shop now at ultrarunning.com. 0:26 Speaker 0: That's altrarunning.com. 0:39 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the peptide of the week podcast. 0:42 Speaker 1: I am your host, JD Denham. And right next to me, my buddy, 0:46 Speaker 2: T. Hawk. What's up? What up? What's up everybody? We have a, 0:51 Speaker 1: so you got a big day tomorrow. I do. It's gonna be fun. You've been waiting for a while. Yeah, I have. I've been thinking about this Are you for a spilling the beans? Yeah, sure. I don't. Tell the fans. So I'm, the fans, right? 1:06 Speaker 2: I've been thinking about, so I'm 40, geez, am I 41? I don't know. Think I'm 40. I've done that before. 1:12 Speaker 2: And I've been thinking about So I've had 1:15 Speaker 2: hair, and it looks like I'm getting ready. I have some hair, right? But I wanted to just not 1:21 Speaker 2: even worry about it. 1:23 Speaker 2: But it's thinning. I don't really care. I'll tell all of you people because you know that all of you are thinking the same thing. Yeah. 1:29 Speaker 2: That you all would we would all love lots of hair. So I've been thinking about, like, going to Turkey, 1:35 Speaker 2: which is way cheaper. It's, like, something like $4. I have friends that have done it, like, $4 instead of $30 here. 1:43 Speaker 2: They put you in a 5 star hotel 1:45 Speaker 2: and, 1:46 Speaker 2: that's it. Now you gotta buy your in your AirFlight. And then we happen to run across a friend, 1:52 Speaker 2: well, 1:53 Speaker 2: a doctor that we do some business with who owns a hair transplant place. So- 2:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, for almost the same price. For the same price. And he would give me a well, he'd give me a good deal because we're in business with him. 2:08 Speaker 2: And so basically, yes, it works out to be about the same price. And I don't have to go spend a week of my life, 2:13 Speaker 2: you know, in Turkey, even though Turkey would be cool, but it would not be cool. I'm not really gonna go out and be able to sightsee much, you know? It's like, do this do this transplant and then just lay there and recover for 3 days. 2:26 Speaker 1: Is that what it is laying around a little bit? Yeah. 2:29 Speaker 1: Painful? 2:29 Speaker 2: It is supposed to be very painful. They, 2:32 Speaker 2: they apparently they inject you with numbing 2:36 Speaker 2: stuff, cortisone, 2:37 Speaker 2: and then maybe rub numbing cream in there. But it's labor intensive. They literally it's like it's almost think think of well, it's like potting was like replanting a tree. Right? You gotta cut the roots out. So literally every single pore, 2:50 Speaker 2: they have to go in there, 2:52 Speaker 2: cut the entire pore out with the follicle, 2:56 Speaker 2: cut a little hole where they want it, and replant it 3:00 Speaker 2: every every single hair at a time. And to make the hairline, 3:04 Speaker 2: they go in and they look at every follicle and they go, so a normal person, every, like, pore has got 2 has got 2 little strands of hair coming out. Right? That's about average. 3:13 Speaker 2: But a lot there are a lot that just have 1. So they have to isolate the ones that just have 1, cut those out, and that's what they create their hairline with. Wow. So you don't have 3:23 Speaker 2: 2 going in odd odd directions or something. 3:26 Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah. And then the rest of them, they want the ones that have 2. If not, I mean, even more. Great. And then they they put that in the middle of your head. Right. And the donor, you gotta do it while you're young and you still have lots of hair. And apparently, I still have lots of hair. 3:38 Speaker 2: The question is, you know, I'm going, like, going a little gray, like, on the sides. And so the donor spot is gonna be 3:45 Speaker 2: from gray hair, but I wonder if, 3:49 Speaker 2: if I'm gonna be just replanting gray hairs in the middle of my head. 3:54 Speaker 1: If so, right, if so, oh well, so be it. It's funny, man, when you choose to put your life on social media, know, I don't even know how that all happened, but why you always wearing a hat? It's because you're on testosterone, all this stupid stuff, you know, and it's like, listen, I'm 48 years old, dude. Like, I don't know if 48 year old isn't somewhat losing his hair. It's like, jeez, dude, it's not always like such a negative, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's called age. It's called age. I feel like I'm pretty, like, pretty good for 48. Jesus. Happens. It always has flat going. Me too. I mean, I'm pretty good for 40, and I just you know, my father still has a full but my my grandpa, my mom's father was bald 4:29 Speaker 2: ever since I ever knew him. So, apparently, it's 4:33 Speaker 2: from the your mother's side of the family. Right. I wanted to get that. Speaking of hair, I actually ran into somebody this morning 4:39 Speaker 2: at a gym, and she was telling me that she's taken GHKCu. 4:44 Speaker 2: And, she's like, holy crap. 4:47 Speaker 2: My 4:48 Speaker 2: my hair 4:49 Speaker 2: right? And she's a young younger girl. She's like, I can't believe how fast my hair is growing back now. Not like growing back, not like she bald, but just growing. And she goes, but it is growing growing in darker. 5:00 Speaker 2: Awesome. 5:01 Speaker 2: Was like, oh, that's where it's really interesting. 5:04 Speaker 2: She said, yeah, that's the thing. That is the thing. So people, 5:07 Speaker 2: like doing GHK- 5:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, we know like there's shampoo. 5:12 Speaker 2: We know it kind of stimulates follicles to grow and grow thicker, but it's interesting that 5:17 Speaker 2: wife's 5:19 Speaker 2: good friend who does her hair, and she's a pretty renowned for Orange County hairdresser. 5:24 Speaker 2: She's pretty good at what she does. It was the best way to say that she 5:27 Speaker 2: isn't losing her hair. So naturally, she comes in and we talk about it, blah, blah, blah. And we talk about the shampoo and 5:34 Speaker 2: she brings it home, not thinking it's going to do much. And 5:37 Speaker 1: we've a call a couple of weeks later and she's blown away by it. And she's not a no bullshit type girl. She's like, 5:43 Speaker 1: you know, wants to sell it. So why am I saying this? Because it works, 5:47 Speaker 1: Why does everybody that tries to, it doesn't matter what peptide they start with. It's generally BPC or like a GLP-one, right? For the most part. 5:56 Speaker 1: But why are peptides growing in popularity so much? Because they're fricking awesome, dude. They work 6:03 Speaker 1: compared to like Western medicine where they like that you go in there, they spend 2 minutes with you. They don't talk to you. They give you stuff that messes up our gut for the most part. 6:12 Speaker 1: Peptides 6:13 Speaker 1: are already in our body for the most part, right? They're just enhancing or whatever it is, whatever particular peptide. 6:19 Speaker 1: That's why they work so good, man. So when people start to try them and they get 6:24 Speaker 2: rad results, 6:25 Speaker 2: that's why they're growing so damn fast, man, because they freaking work. And not to mention, so we have a friend, we did an episode about the new industry 6:35 Speaker 2: update, 6:36 Speaker 2: right? And we have a friend who 6:38 Speaker 2: was in Washington, 6:40 Speaker 2: like speaking with 6:43 Speaker 2: RFK and JD Vance 6:47 Speaker 2: about Reta, but they also came there 6:50 Speaker 2: with 6:52 Speaker 2: a list of 40 or 50 peptides that we all talk about that are basically fast track to be FDA approved. Now, why would they do that? Why would they do that? Think through that. Because they wanna control it. Well, they wanna control it, but 7:05 Speaker 2: it also provides a ton of legitimacy to 7:09 Speaker 2: all these peptides, right? Like it's a, 7:11 Speaker 2: for yes. I mean, I still the FDA, like, you approved OxyContin and told 7:17 Speaker 2: everybody that they're not addictive. Right? And I have 10 dead friends that say otherwise. 7:22 Speaker 1: Right? 7:23 Speaker 2: So the FDA don't 7:25 Speaker 2: really have much faith in, 7:28 Speaker 2: but 7:28 Speaker 2: it's a hard, besides money, but there's, you know, not with not a lot of money, well, there would be a lot of money, a lot of these other peptides, but it does, 7:38 Speaker 2: they wanna control it, but the fact is it's, they are good. They are actually working. So it is, something, a commodity that they can control and can make billions off of. So 7:49 Speaker 1: how can we make sense? 7:51 Speaker 2: There is that, but just, I don't know. These things freaking work and are 7:57 Speaker 2: I mean, they're safe. I don't even want say relatively safe. All 8:01 Speaker 1: the political 8:02 Speaker 1: loot right there. Peptides are freaking amazing. That's why you're listening to the podcast with why the podcast is doing so well. Nothing special about us. The fact that we're talking about things that people are intrigued by and they're interested in, and we like talking about them. Definitely, definitely like trying them. Absolutely. So I guess the last little bit of hair, yeah, I'm gonna do that. It's like 7 hours. And, I will 8:23 Speaker 2: show everybody if everybody cares. 8:26 Speaker 2: It's gotta be interesting. Hey. Now there's something on the video 8:30 Speaker 2: that alright. Hey. On this date, this is what my hair looks like. 8:34 Speaker 2: Cool. We'll see you in 6 months. Right. It's not gonna look pretty next week. That's for sure. We'll see what I look like with a shaved head. Kind of have a long head with 8:43 Speaker 1: with a smallish crown. Yeah. I had a shaved head forever, man. We got out finally like 2 years back, but there's Well, dude, well, cool. Today is the episode we all love. It's the Q and A episode. 8:55 Speaker 1: We like talking through these things and getting a little touch of you guys. 8:59 Speaker 1: So let's why don't you do the honors, man? We always like you to start it off. Alright. 9:03 Speaker 2: I'll get my glasses. Hey, JD. I've been fortunate enough to find your podcast and listen to every episode a couple of times now to get information, 9:12 Speaker 2: that you guys provide stuck in my brain. It's great to see you 2 blokes telling it how it is and being a 100% honest about what they are putting in their bodies, 9:22 Speaker 2: as too often people hide it for sure. Again, my friends who have been like, man, the testosterone I've I've done, dude, this saves my life. 9:32 Speaker 2: It has made in new man, it's the best thing. Hey, but just don't tell anybody that I'm doing this. Okay? You asshole. 9:38 Speaker 2: Yeah. Right? Yeah. Anyway. 9:41 Speaker 2: Okay. I have a request, and I'm not sure that it's something that can't be done on the podcast. Solid 9:46 Speaker 2: favor. You to send it to me privately. Right? I'm currently battling with tendonitis in my elbow. Has been about 4 months. Recently started on Glow. I've heard you guys say you can inject straight into where the injury is, but I'm a little scared of injecting into my tendon. My question to you is, are you able to do a video on how to do this, please? I have so many questions for you, but, 10:09 Speaker 2: but now this is 1 of my biggest. I should add I had tendonitis in my right elbow for many months. I ended up having a cortisone injection, 10:17 Speaker 2: which helped immensely. Yeah. But but, I thought I would try peptides before going back to a cortisone injection. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks again for being awesome, guys. I appreciate all the knowledge, 10:27 Speaker 2: that you've put out everywhere. Stay strong and safe. 10:30 Speaker 1: A lot of Aussies, man. A lot of Aussies listening in. I love it. I would imagine they're pretty damn hard to get out in Australia. Yes, I've heard. You hear lot of people hook this up, but you want me to start? I mean You wanna start? Do you wanna I'll start because I have some immediate answers. Go it. A, 10:46 Speaker 2: BPC, like tendonitis, BPC is the thing for tendonitis. Like, that's its job. It's really- Right into that tendonitis, tendonitis. 10:53 Speaker 2: I have said this previously that I have had mad- bad tendonitis and 10:58 Speaker 2: have injected just directly into my tendon. Okay? 11:03 Speaker 2: And 11:04 Speaker 2: use I use a brand new needle, so it goes in. It's kinda you can, like, I mean, you can almost, like, feel it. 11:10 Speaker 2: Right? That's a tightly wound 11:13 Speaker 2: tendon. So, 11:14 Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't just go through, like, your, like, skin or muscle. So Yeah. You kinda feel it. I went slow. I'm like, damn. This feels kinda weird. 11:22 Speaker 2: You know, you wanna I made sure I didn't hit a vein. 11:25 Speaker 2: So 11:26 Speaker 2: you can hopefully see the veins. Right? You better not have any blood that comes back in. 11:32 Speaker 2: The needle, I don't know how graphic we're allowed to be. I don't know I don't think we're 11:37 Speaker 2: we're ready to do a video just because that's why you said message you privately, so thank you. But, 11:42 Speaker 2: putting it right in there and and injecting into every day really, really worked for me. 11:48 Speaker 2: You you could go you you know, you could go really close to the tendon also. Right? Sub Q there, intramuscular there, but not, you know, point into the tendon. 11:59 Speaker 2: I have. Even I thought it worked amazingly. 12:02 Speaker 2: So there's that Cortisone scares me. Like, there's a reason that, you know, most doctors, 12:06 Speaker 2: most doctors are 12:07 Speaker 2: they don't wanna give people cortisone injections more than like twice a year because it just destroys, well, your, like, cartilage. 12:15 Speaker 2: So and all it's doing is masking the pain. Yeah. Actually, I mean, it might be reducing inflammation, and that is all tendonitis is. It's just chronic 12:23 Speaker 2: over inflammation. 12:25 Speaker 2: So but I would abs do what you're doing. Stay away from the cortisone Yeah. Injection. Because it's not it's not gonna it's not really it's gonna help right now. Yeah. Cool. Because you don't feel it. 12:35 Speaker 2: But it's not helping the condition 12:39 Speaker 2: fully like BPC is. BPC will heal that condition. Well, it did for me multiple times and for lots of friends. 12:48 Speaker 2: Hands up. Hell yeah. And the glow, now you said you're gonna do glow. That's cool. It's got BPC and TB and GHK- 12:54 Speaker 2: That's gonna sting a bit. 12:56 Speaker 2: That's gonna sting a little bit going in there. I would frankly just do high doses of BPC and TB. Yep. Right in there. Yep. Wondering you're That's my answer. Yeah, I would say we'll kind of just picked up on that. What I would say is pull out the glow. Glow is great, but in 13:13 Speaker 1: regards to what you're describing, 13:15 Speaker 1: we ain't nothing better than the Wolverine dude. I've used it countless times. I am still blown away by how freaking good it works. Was just, I just actually dropped a video driving today, just talking about how freaking fast 13:27 Speaker 1: the Wolverine healed my chest. I'm still blown away. I literally thought I was going to have problems like, Oh dude, I'm not going be able to do my chest forever. I was like, Bomb dude. And like, I started blasting it right away and I'm still amazed. Like, it healed it so freaking fast. 13:42 Speaker 1: So I would pull out the glow and just go Wolverine and how 13:46 Speaker 1: much can you afford? You can blast it. I think that is such a good compound. And, 13:50 Speaker 1: I am really going to say that 1 in particular, the Wolverine, if you can afford it, quite a bit because it will expedite the healing. Now, if you can afford a little, then do a little. Still will do well. It might take a little bit longer to heal, but Will and I know countless people with tendinitis and the BPC, 14:06 Speaker 1: it's what it's for. It will heal it, but just nail that sucker. 14:09 Speaker 2: Just wherever it's at. Wherever happens to be. I don't Some people get it here, right? Some people can it right here. 2. 14:15 Speaker 2: And you will notice, guys, everybody's healing cycle is like this. So you, when it's really inflamed and it really hurts the pain, and I'm just using this, this is where my tendon always hurt. Okay? But that pain may Some people are like, oh, I don't even know where it originates, right? Because it is now so bad and that inflammation is everywhere and it's hurting me from here to here. 14:34 Speaker 2: You will notice though that pain will start to centralize. 14:38 Speaker 2: Okay. And it will start to hurt more 14:41 Speaker 2: if that's central point. Okay. That is a good sign. We know things are healing if that's happening. So don't say, oh man, it's even, it's like hurting more. It's more sensitive. So this must be bad. Yeah. That's actually a good sign. If the 14:57 Speaker 2: pain just right narrows down to a very specific spot, but pain goes up, that's great. You're on the cusp of actually truly healing it now. 15:05 Speaker 2: So keep going. And what he says a lot, like, I'd say a reasonable lot is 2 mgs a day. Yeah. That's good. 2 mg a day of of TB and BPC. 15:16 Speaker 2: I 15:17 Speaker 2: wouldn't take any less than 0.5 a milligram of each a day, and I would go till it's done. 15:24 Speaker 1: I was doing it morning and night. I was able to, and like, I brought a big bottle of the BPC. It was actually the only bottle when I was in Cabo. I was only BBC, 15:33 Speaker 1: but I did it in the morning and night because again, I was like, Oh man, this sucks. I do not want to, I'm going to have this tear. I was really worried about the tear. It was that bad. 15:41 Speaker 1: So I did it morning and night. I mean, I have 15:44 Speaker 1: proof from my back surgery doing it like that morning and night in high doses and how fast it helped, dude. So like, I am sold. And again, I've had numerous injuries since and like, damn, this stuff works so good. It's insane. 15:56 Speaker 1: So much better than the cortisone. 15:58 Speaker 1: Brother. Much better. And thank you for the support, All the way out in Australia, man. A lot of Aussies listening. I love it. Hey, guys, I'm stocking up on GLP peptides before January 1. What's 16:10 Speaker 1: the best way to store 16:12 Speaker 1: long term and how long can they last and be effective? Grateful for both of you sharing your experience, strength, hope. Good stuff. Good 16:21 Speaker 1: stuff. I mean, 2 years, I would say stored in the fridge. 16:25 Speaker 1: They last a long time before you mix them, man. So 16:29 Speaker 1: we said it before, nobody knows what's 16:34 Speaker 1: going to happen in 2026. So I think anybody that can afford a bit, stock up, why not? Not going go bad. So all you're doing is just being prepared. I got some in my fridge at the house just in case too and whatever. I 16:46 Speaker 2: would say that, so in the refrigerator, 16:49 Speaker 2: so there's a couple of things you don't keep away from light and heat. If you're gonna go really long term, well, a, number 1, don't mix them. Alright? Where he's taught when he says 2 years, that means unmixed still in their powder form. Yeah. 17:03 Speaker 2: So don't mix them. I would put them in the fridge. 17:07 Speaker 2: Don't freeze them. Like if we're talking like 10 years, 17:10 Speaker 2: freeze them. Okay. Really cold, but we're not, I don't think. So fridge 17:15 Speaker 2: and the little tip, like put them in the crisper, 17:19 Speaker 2: You know, everybody in their refrigerator has the, like, crisper drawer. Okay? 17:23 Speaker 2: That is supposed to be less humid. 17:26 Speaker 2: Okay? What you do not want, though, is if it's cold, but you better not let any condensation 17:32 Speaker 2: get inside of that bottle. Okay? So crisper drawer is 17:37 Speaker 2: the best place in the fridge. 17:40 Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be super cold. 17:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's my best suggestion and 2 years. They'll last 17:47 Speaker 2: a they'll last plenty long unmixed. 17:50 Speaker 2: Yeah. As soon as you mix them, you know, it depends on the it depends on the peptide, but 17:57 Speaker 2: but, I mean, honestly, I've seen people who have old 18:00 Speaker 2: Tirzepatide and had it for 6 months and it still works. So I've had some Melanotan that had been in my 18:06 Speaker 1: fridge forever and I hadn't done it forever. Like, yeah, I'll do it for a week and then I'm like, it still works. PT-one 40 one's probably been there for There you go. For a year at least and it still works really, really well. So it depends. 18:17 Speaker 2: But yeah, the key, I guess, don't mix them. Don't mix it before storage. And I like your I mean, all those who know will know, and he says, 18:25 Speaker 2: thanks for sharing your experience, strength, and hope. Think that there's a lot- Bring a bill. Yeah. So right on. 18:31 Speaker 2: Cool. Next. Okay. Hi, guys. I continue to love the podcast and lean learn 18:36 Speaker 2: so much from you both every week. There's a lot of information being shared, and I often find myself wondering whether you'd consider a show website or something with an index of topics discussed. 18:47 Speaker 2: Another thing that would be great would be a peptide cheat sheet. It would be so beneficial to have an updated place to 18:54 Speaker 2: look up a particular peptide or blend, what it is used for, typical doses, dosage range for both men and women, frequency forms, availability, reconstitution amount, etcetera. 19:05 Speaker 2: You could link to your products or others you'd like. Just a thought, I've looked up, the Peptide Research Institute, 19:12 Speaker 2: but there are 19:14 Speaker 2: many products 19:16 Speaker 2: that you mention 19:17 Speaker 2: that aren't on their list. 19:19 Speaker 2: Thanks. 19:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 19:23 Speaker 2: I have been 19:25 Speaker 2: kind of working on that and doing different iterations for a long time, 19:31 Speaker 2: And we are really, we are working on 19:34 Speaker 2: that and getting this 19:37 Speaker 2: podcast more organized. So we actually 19:41 Speaker 2: have like, yeah, a different software program where 19:45 Speaker 2: the videos and, like, a protocol type database will be included. 19:50 Speaker 2: And it's in the works. Right? That is 19:54 Speaker 2: it's a big undertaking. 19:56 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a big undertaking, especially, like, cystic current with all the systems protocols because, like, hey, new info 20:02 Speaker 2: comes out. 20:05 Speaker 2: Then you start getting into it and you're like, oh, well, let's add this. But then if you add that, you gotta add that for every for 20:10 Speaker 2: every single 1 and 20:13 Speaker 2: deal with the formatting. I don't know. It's maybe making excuses. But it's just a lot of work, and we're and I've been 20:18 Speaker 2: I've done a lot of those, but but 20:21 Speaker 2: not up until 20:22 Speaker 2: today. 20:24 Speaker 2: So but we're working on something a lot more official that'll be really clean and useful 20:29 Speaker 2: for every 20:31 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 20:34 Speaker 0: The space to go further, 20:35 Speaker 0: to feel better, to do something you never thought possible. And this space 20:40 Speaker 0: starts with UltraFit. 20:42 Speaker 0: Unlike traditional running shoes, UltraFit gives toes more room to move naturally. So every step is strong, balanced, balanced, and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. Shop now at Ultra Running dot com. That's altrarunning.com. 21:00 Speaker 1: Hey, buddy. Simplicity. I mean, everybody at this point, I think, should know that social media is 21:06 Speaker 1: they get nailed on social media channels. I mean, even YouTube, which we thought was a little bit safer. We've got nailed on there a little bit, but so we 21:13 Speaker 1: can't talk about protocols on that stuff. Just not going to happen because 21:17 Speaker 1: we do not want to, have any of those taken down because we put a lot of work into those over the last year, year and 0.5. So what we've decided to do is pull people off their social media is on to kind of our own type of a deal where we'll have some of that stuff where we can talk freely 21:31 Speaker 1: and not just Will and I, I mean, anybody at this company is extremely passionate. They're all knowledgeable. 21:37 Speaker 1: People know a lot of the people that we kind of work with. 21:41 Speaker 1: Will and I only kind of work around people that are very passionate about the stuff we do. So you'll be able to talk a lot of different people that are really into this stuff. And I think that you will enjoy it. It'll be good. Still works. 21:52 Speaker 1: All right. 21:54 Speaker 1: What's up, guys? I'm 43 and taking CJC-1295 21:58 Speaker 1: and 21:59 Speaker 1: a Clomiphene-six 22:00 Speaker 1: 25 every other day. 22:03 Speaker 1: I'm also on MOTS-1C. 22:05 Speaker 1: Just had labs done. My total T is 11 60 4. 22:10 Speaker 1: Free T is 180. 22:12 Speaker 1: Wow. 22:13 Speaker 1: DHT is 94 and Estrada is 74. 22:15 Speaker 1: I was having some emotional side effects. 22:18 Speaker 1: So my doc put me on anastrozole. 22:21 Speaker 1: My total and free almost doubled in 3 months. 22:26 Speaker 1: I haven't started an AI yet because I hear it's not the best 22:30 Speaker 1: for you and have 22:32 Speaker 1: some side effects 22:34 Speaker 1: of a society 22:36 Speaker 1: with blonde and dim. My goal with all of this is to lean out a bit, join the club. 22:43 Speaker 1: A bit, so also gay- he also gave me Reto, 1 mg a week, which is very low. 22:49 Speaker 1: I'm 185 pounds, five'eleven and very active. 22:52 Speaker 1: Should I take the AI increase the Retta or is there anything else you recommend? 22:57 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, love you guys. Well, 1st and foremost, man, those numbers are extremely high. I mean, the $11.64, 23:04 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that like to run that on their 23:07 Speaker 1: total test matter 23:09 Speaker 1: of opinion. You know, Will and I have talked about it quite a few times. 23:14 Speaker 1: Most people talk about the free tests. I mean, the, the total tests and not the free test, which is kind of odd because that's where you get your energy, sex drive, certain things. So free test is actually really important. 23:24 Speaker 1: And that's high, dude. 23:26 Speaker 1: Like, I like to be like 45, you're 180. 23:28 Speaker 2: That's high. So you must be, that's a lot. I mean, that's great. And there's nothing really you can 23:34 Speaker 2: there's nothing 23:35 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, hell, you you wanna get as much free test as damn possible. 23:40 Speaker 2: So 23:41 Speaker 2: kick ass. You're you're you're 23:43 Speaker 2: sex hormone finding globulin, right, is probably super low, 23:47 Speaker 2: which is awesome. That's what just kind of takes up your androgen receptor space. So not all of your total tests can actually grab on and therefore 23:57 Speaker 2: be free. 23:58 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, Kuri. Kuri. You're good. The, your estradiol is at 74, which is pretty high. So like an optimal, 24:05 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's a different science program. You're talking about 15 24:08 Speaker 1: to 30 24:09 Speaker 1: people grams per milliliter that, so you're at 74, 24:12 Speaker 1: super high. My question would be, are you getting gyno? 24:17 Speaker 1: Testosterone is obviously converting estrogen and when that happens for most like me, 24:22 Speaker 1: you get gynecomastia. 24:23 Speaker 1: So do you have a little ball in your nipple? Do you get itchy? Is it tender? 24:29 Speaker 1: If so, should you start the AI? Absolutely. I think that you should anyway. Now there's 24:35 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff out there where certain people saying don't take an AI blah, blah, blah. Listen, 24:40 Speaker 1: everybody has a matter of opinion. I posted something about like, we were talking about this in 1 of the posts and it's just like, dude, people just attack it. Like, listen, if you don't want to take it, then don't take it. We take it. If I get, if I'm getting gyno, I'm going to take, I'm going to take an AI. So if you have a problem with that, don't take it. You know what mean? Like, live and let live, man. I'm assuming with those numbers, my brother, you are definitely probably getting some gyno issues. 25:07 Speaker 1: So my suggestion would be absolutely. You do not want to get gyno to the degree where it grows to the factory, you can't fix it. I've had the surgery because of my testosterone for since day 1, 25:18 Speaker 1: converts estrogen long before I knew about, 25:21 Speaker 1: know, long before I knew what I was doing, it converted estrogen to the degree where I had to get it cut out. And it still comes back. People think if you have the surgery that you can't get it, that's wrong. 25:32 Speaker 1: It's wrong. So, 25:34 Speaker 1: yeah, that would be my thing in regards to that. 25:37 Speaker 1: Look at the signs, your numbers are high, 25:40 Speaker 1: mean, how do you feel? It always boils down to how do you feel? 25:45 Speaker 1: What's some of the questions? Should I take it 1 off the red 25:49 Speaker 1: meg of red is extremely low. 25:52 Speaker 1: I think you could do a little bit more. I mean, you could just do 0.5 of a mg Monday, Wednesday, Friday and go up a little bit. 25:59 Speaker 2: Try that. 26:00 Speaker 1: But 26:01 Speaker 1: we say it all the time, man. We're science projects. You won't know until you try. 26:07 Speaker 1: And, 26:08 Speaker 1: you got to find your sweet spot on a lot of this stuff. And that takes time. It takes experimenting. 26:13 Speaker 1: And, we've done it for years and 26:16 Speaker 1: it takes a long time to find out your sweet spot in testosterone placement, 26:20 Speaker 1: hormone optimization, 26:21 Speaker 1: even diet nutrition. 26:23 Speaker 1: I like the carnivore diet, but that doesn't mean that I know all just because it works for me. It doesn't mean it's going to work for you. You got to find what works for you. 26:30 Speaker 1: My suggestion is up the red a little bit, and I would probably take AI because I'm thinking you probably are converting estrogen and you're gonna get some gyno. 26:38 Speaker 2: What do you got? Yeah, I mean, I guess at 1st glance, was gonna say, well, you're that Enclomiphene dose 6.25 26:43 Speaker 2: mg is damn low, but results 26:46 Speaker 2: is being at 1,100 26:50 Speaker 2: total tests, 26:53 Speaker 2: your free test being 180 is 26:56 Speaker 2: high and great. 26:58 Speaker 2: You're not, I mean, look, dude, you say you're telling me that you're not taking testosterone. 27:04 Speaker 2: Did he say that? Kick out. I guess I they didn't say he is. Just said he was taking enclomiphene. 27:10 Speaker 2: The CJC 12 95 27:13 Speaker 2: doesn't isn't gonna do anything to your testosterone. 27:16 Speaker 2: Good or bad. That's just not how it works. 27:19 Speaker 2: But the enclomiphene 27:21 Speaker 2: at 6.25, 27:23 Speaker 2: just generally, like, I usually see pills at at 12.5 27:27 Speaker 2: or 25 27:28 Speaker 2: mg. 27:30 Speaker 2: So that's great. Now your estrogen being at 74, like, I will 2nd that. Like, that I mean, absolutely. That's why your doctor told you to take take inastrozole AKA Arimidex. 27:40 Speaker 2: Okay? The signs of high estrogen. 27:43 Speaker 2: Basically, there's 4 4 main ones. So 27:46 Speaker 2: emotions. Right? I mean, basically women have a ton of estrogen. Okay? 27:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. So this is what, 27:54 Speaker 2: you're kind of turning into a woman. So sorry, women, like emotional. 27:59 Speaker 2: You're, 28:00 Speaker 2: you start retain water. So excess 28:02 Speaker 2: water retention. 28:03 Speaker 2: So if you're starting to look bloated, everywhere, 28:06 Speaker 2: you may think, okay, my estrogen's probably high. Acne, if you're getting, you know, dotted out, you start, I don't know, having any, like, more breakouts than usual anywhere in back. Especially chest and back where you shouldn't have it. That's all estrogen and easily fixed. And then gyno, he's right. Right? Your body is gonna start growing 28:25 Speaker 2: Tip, it starts growing too fat from a tiny little bit right under your nipples. 28:30 Speaker 2: Your nipples will be start to be sore and sensitive, and that's a sign that the estrogen is high and that your body is trying to build that fat. And if if left unchecked and you do not take an estrogen 28:41 Speaker 2: blocker and AI, right, aromatase inhibitor, 28:44 Speaker 2: you will build that fat, and that fat must be cut out of you. 28:49 Speaker 2: Actually was talking to a girl yesterday, and I was like, that's the fat that can't be cut that has to be cut out, can't be burnt off. And they're like, well, bullshit. How come every time I lose weight, I I only I burn off all my tits? 29:01 Speaker 2: It's like, well, it's true. I have heard that from girls. 29:03 Speaker 2: Maybe it works the other in men, but, or it's different than this the the kind of fake breasts that men shouldn't have when we grow fat. Yeah, the guys, you can't burn that off. And so the goal is to never let it grow. Okay? 29:16 Speaker 2: So if you are experiencing any of those 4 symptoms, I would absolutely start the REMDAX. And people are tripping 29:22 Speaker 2: who say, oh, REMDAX is so bad for you. Like, that is such bullshit. And 29:28 Speaker 2: I guarantee 90% of those people out in line that are are geared up and giant and they say they'd never take Remodex, they're lying to you. 29:37 Speaker 2: So I don't think so, man. The goal is to take as little 29:40 Speaker 2: Rimbidex, 29:41 Speaker 2: Anastrozil, AI blocker, all the same thing, 29:44 Speaker 2: as possible. 29:45 Speaker 2: So as little as possible, but to get no to have no side effects. Okay? There is a life where you can take testosterone or or or something else, I guess, to really elevate your testosterone 29:55 Speaker 2: and have no side effects. Okay? Yeah. So it's not doable. 29:59 Speaker 2: Just gotta do it right. You just gotta find your sweet spot. 30:03 Speaker 2: And I've talked about that before. So we just kinda take it till symptoms are gone daily. Take it till symptoms are gone, then back up 3 days a week. And then maybe every 2 weeks, pull out, you know, 0.5 a pill, 0.5 a milligram. 30:16 Speaker 2: And 30:17 Speaker 2: as long as, hey, no symptoms, great. You can drop another 0.5 mg. No symptoms, great. As soon as you drop another milligram and some of the symptoms come back, well, maybe last week was your sweet spot. 30:27 Speaker 2: K? But just incrementally drop them. Otherwise, dude, I'm not mad at you for having 1,100 30:33 Speaker 2: test scores, especially if you're not actually taking testosterone. That kicks ass. Good for you. The boron and dim, like, yeah, that might lower your estrogen a little bit. Alright? 30:43 Speaker 2: Cool. Maybe and and you said it had. Like, that's correct. That that does. But if we if you're somebody who actually has an estrogen problem 30:50 Speaker 2: and you're having gyno, I would not rely more on a DIMM. I've taken DIMM countless times and Yeah. It doesn't really do much. But in your case, maybe it did a little bit and just enough. Awesome. 31:00 Speaker 2: And I I 2nd what he said about Retta. 31:03 Speaker 2: Alright. Moving on. Who's that? Mew? I am. So hey, 31:08 Speaker 2: It's Charlie from Sydney, Australia here. Awesome. Love the pod. 31:11 Speaker 2: Keep up the great work. My question is with a lot of peptides still being researched chemical, are you worried about future desensitization 31:20 Speaker 2: to our receptors? 31:22 Speaker 2: I've seen a few videos regarding this, and I'm not sure if they're legitimate or not. Many thanks in advance. Yeah, I mean, 31:29 Speaker 2: I think the fact that their research chemicals has not much to has nothing to do about it, you know, has nothing to do with it. 31:38 Speaker 2: Like, 31:39 Speaker 2: the retatrutide 31:42 Speaker 2: research use only and 31:44 Speaker 2: prescribed, 31:47 Speaker 2: there is 0 difference between those 2, 31:49 Speaker 2: FYI. 31:51 Speaker 2: Theoretically, there should be 0 difference. Okay? 31:55 Speaker 2: Unless you have somebody who puts nothing in a jar and sells it to you. 31:59 Speaker 2: But that is not worry about that is not what do you mean? There are then but yes, I mean, I worry about desensitization 32:06 Speaker 2: with everything that a person takes. 32:09 Speaker 2: Right? 32:09 Speaker 2: There's you know, drinking a lot of coffee, you start to get desensitized to coffee. 32:15 Speaker 2: You everything that I take, you build a slight tolerance. And so 32:19 Speaker 2: none of these are and that's why I have said that, hey, guys. Even the stuff that is totally okay for you, there's not gonna give you any real side effects 32:29 Speaker 2: long term. I still have said, hey, I think you should go 4 months and then take a couple couple week break 32:34 Speaker 2: specifically for that reason. Right? Because you build this tolerance and you are less sensitive to it, and then therefore it's not doing 32:41 Speaker 2: the same thing as it should. And so it's a good idea to give yourself breaks. Now I'm 32:46 Speaker 2: not worried about, like, forever 32:49 Speaker 2: desensitization 32:51 Speaker 2: on certain things. Now Yeah. I know. But, like, yeah. If you 32:55 Speaker 2: I 32:57 Speaker 2: don't know. If we're having a rational conversation and 33:00 Speaker 2: saying 33:01 Speaker 2: that, yeah, we're assuming you're not gonna do a 100 bottles of IGF-one 33:06 Speaker 2: every day, 33:07 Speaker 2: you know, 33:08 Speaker 2: then, no, with regular dosing, I'm not worried about long term 33:12 Speaker 2: desensitization 33:13 Speaker 2: or just completely blowing out unrepairable, 33:17 Speaker 2: unrepairing your your receptors. 33:19 Speaker 2: Right? But so no. But I still think, hey. A couple weeks break, 33:22 Speaker 2: then they'll then then everything will be back to a There 33:25 Speaker 2: is, like, people talk about metabolic damage and like, hey, you know, ask any bodybuilder, 33:31 Speaker 2: who's cutting. You know, you can do metabolic 33:34 Speaker 2: damage by 33:35 Speaker 2: taking so many supplements that are fat burners that are like lipotropics 33:40 Speaker 2: and starving yourself out. And 33:44 Speaker 2: after a while, 33:45 Speaker 2: you'll do some cuts, then you'll try to, you know, you'll get you'll gain some weight or whatever, and you'll try to cut like, man, this stuff just isn't working. My body isn't responding. Yes, because you've kind of done some metabolic damage. What you need to do then is 33:59 Speaker 2: chill and live your life. Like, eat some normal food, eat some normal healthy meals for a few months. Right? Back up on the psycho working out and don't take heavy doses of fat burners. In fact, maybe let's just not take any fat burners as supplements. Let your body just get back to its normal equilibrium. 34:18 Speaker 2: And, yeah, take DSIP 34:20 Speaker 2: to helps your body get back in check. Take Thymosin Alpha. 34:26 Speaker 2: Take Epitalon. 34:28 Speaker 2: Those kind of all help 34:30 Speaker 2: nail on their bio regulators. Reboot. 34:33 Speaker 2: Help you reboot a little bit and then your body will come back. 34:37 Speaker 2: I am also amazed the resilience of the human body. Yeah. God 34:42 Speaker 2: knows what he's doing. God knows what he's doing. When I 1st got into doing testosterone, you hear all these things and they're like, oh, you know, you'll never have a kid. Like what I have been amazed with after seeing thousands of people is like, how 34:55 Speaker 2: much our natural test does bounce back after 35:00 Speaker 2: abuse and abuse and abuse and abuse. But despite all of our best efforts to just kill our own natural testosterone, 35:06 Speaker 2: damn, nothing still keeps coming back. And people still can have babies. 35:10 Speaker 2: You know, there's exceptions 35:12 Speaker 2: to every rule, but that's what I'm surprised about. Agreed. 35:17 Speaker 1: Cool. All right, where we at? Let's see. All 35:20 Speaker 1: right. What's the best thing if Retta is no longer available? I currently take Retta for weight loss 35:26 Speaker 1: and blood sugar regulation. 35:28 Speaker 1: I do not think you need to worry about it. 35:31 Speaker 1: The maker, I will not say the name, no need of this compound 35:36 Speaker 1: is going to be once it's FDA approved, it will be everywhere. Now, costs will be higher in my opinion, 35:42 Speaker 1: but you will be able to get it. So I would not worry about you being able to get it. The cost just might be higher. 35:49 Speaker 2: What do got? True that. Yeah, supply is not gonna be a problem. Just cost will. 35:56 Speaker 2: That's about that's about it. If you wanna DM us, we can kinda tell you, 36:01 Speaker 2: yeah, some spots to that will be, like, foolproof or recession proof. 36:06 Speaker 2: Yeah. 36:08 Speaker 2: And but if we wanna say, oh, okay. Let's say, Reta was never invented, but we know this idea of what it does. 36:15 Speaker 2: 1 thing that I like is Tesofensine. 36:18 Speaker 2: That really helps with food cravings. 36:21 Speaker 2: You know? 36:23 Speaker 2: It helps more for your brain, Makes your brain just more satious. You're not walking around looking for any type of dopamine spike. So it helps people who love to eat sweets, cut back on sweets 36:33 Speaker 2: just because you're like, meh. Don't really yeah. No. It's not looking not looking to satisfy that part of our brain. Because believe it or not, I mean, that is 1 of our major functional drivers of us human beings is food. Right? We are built with the survival mechanism to need to eat and to search for it. Right? Yeah. Or else the species 36:53 Speaker 2: would die off. 36:55 Speaker 2: That's why sex drive is so high, you know? 36:59 Speaker 2: God knows what he's doing. God knows what he's doing, man. Does whatever it takes to 37:04 Speaker 2: design us so the species survives. So I don't know, man. I wouldn't worry about that. 37:09 Speaker 2: Just cost. But it just cost. 37:11 Speaker 2: Yeah. But I think it'd be all right. You'd probably find it available. Find it cheaper. All right. 30 year old, 38 year old female, 3 kids, eat healthy, work out 6 days a week. 3 to 4 of those days are heavyweight training days. Also, I do a mix of HIIT and zone 2 cardio, 37:26 Speaker 2: walking, running, biking, started microdose of tirzepatide, 37:30 Speaker 2: 2 Migs a week in August, and it has helped every aspect of my life. Lost 20 pounds of bloating inflammation, healed my gut, so much more. 37:38 Speaker 2: Just rechecked my labs, and my inflammation is way down. My cholesterol is in the normal range for the 1st time in my adult life. Yep. I don't know about you. 37:46 Speaker 2: And I look and feel like I've gained muscle. 37:50 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm now very into I am now very into peptides. 37:54 Speaker 2: This is literally what your voice would be open So with, you 37:57 Speaker 2: 1st of all, good for you, 37:59 Speaker 2: persons here. Sorry. Lost my spot. Alright. I just finished a cycle of 38:04 Speaker 2: BPC-one 38:05 Speaker 2: hundred 57 to heal my shoulder issue, and now I'm starting GHK CU and NAD plus. 38:10 Speaker 2: Wondering about dosing, 38:12 Speaker 2: how often I should take them and how long each cycle should be. Also, though I do not want to lose any more weight, I'd love to try and tone up my stomach a bit more. 38:22 Speaker 2: Thoughts on Tessa Ipamore. 38:24 Speaker 2: What do you think of this stack with the goal to maintain weight, increase muscle, increase energy, 38:30 Speaker 2: and just for general longevity? I also plan on staying on the microdose of Tazepatide for the foreseeable future since it has truly saved my life, 38:39 Speaker 2: changed my life, thank you for the wealth of knowledge and you have provided me through this podcast. Look forward to each and every episode. 38:46 Speaker 1: Sweet. Oh, hell. That was good 1. 38:48 Speaker 2: Go ahead. So 38:51 Speaker 1: I think that without even us reading this together, I think we're both gonna probably answer 1 of them with 38:56 Speaker 1: the right same answer, which is we're gonna say get off the Tirzepatide and go with the Retrutide. It's just a superior product. I think you'll like it more. 39:04 Speaker 1: So you definitely want to do that. Thoughts on Tessa Ipoh. I think it's amazing. 39:08 Speaker 1: I definitely think it's amazing for women. If you want to tighten up the tummy, 39:12 Speaker 1: that will do it. It focuses right on that bottom belly fat. We've discussed it numerous times on this podcast. It's the 1 peptide. Tide. It's the 1 compound 39:21 Speaker 1: out there that 39:23 Speaker 1: literally will focus in on that fat. So should you do it? Yes, I think it would be great. I would switch the tirzepatide. 39:30 Speaker 1: I know it's done wonders for you, but if you liked your appetite, you'll probably love Retrutide. 39:35 Speaker 1: So try that. If you're not looking to lose any more weight, steal a dose. 39:41 Speaker 1: And then if you feel like you've got to the point where you're good, you can always pull it out. You can always go back on. So it's never going to be a bad thing. 39:50 Speaker 1: General longevity, 39:51 Speaker 1: you've got some of them. You tie your NAD. I mean, I would say 39:56 Speaker 1: MOTS-C 39:57 Speaker 1: and an SS-thirty 1 would be great to add with NAD. 40:00 Speaker 1: GHK- 40:01 Speaker 1: CU, you women love that. I think it's great as well. 40:05 Speaker 1: Some women can't handle the sting, but my buddy over here has figured out a way to even diminish the sting, so that should be fine. But I think that you're doing great. I would pull the Tirzepatide. I would go with the Reta. I would definitely try the 40:19 Speaker 1: Tessa Ipah. 40:20 Speaker 1: And if you want some longevity, like you said, I would add in on top of the NAD 40:26 Speaker 1: SS-31MOT 40:27 Speaker 1: C, boom, 40:28 Speaker 1: good to go. 40:30 Speaker 2: For sure. I 2nd a lot of that. I don't know. My thoughts on the tirzepatide comment, like, I understand, yes, you wanna be loyal to that tirzepatide and has 1 done wonders until, like, I don't know. I guess I'm I'm 40:43 Speaker 2: I'm going with stay sticking with what worked maybe until it doesn't. Right? These are always 40:48 Speaker 2: always kinda wanna run things till we hit the plateau and then change it up 40:52 Speaker 2: and do that again till we hit another plateau. 40:54 Speaker 2: I will say, though, with the Tirzepatide versus Retta, like, I bet you'll find 41:01 Speaker 0: Ultra running shoes are all about space. 41:04 Speaker 0: The space to go further, 41:05 Speaker 0: to feel better, to do something you never thought possible. 41:09 Speaker 0: And this space 41:10 Speaker 0: starts with Ultra Fit. Unlike traditional running shoes, 41:14 Speaker 0: Ultra Fit gives toes more room to move naturally, so every step is strong, balanced, 41:19 Speaker 0: and comfortable. Whatever you're lacing up for, stay out there with Ultra. Shop now at ultrarunning.com. 41:26 Speaker 0: That's altrarunning.com. 41:30 Speaker 2: Oftentimes, people don't quite like they'll start running and be like, I don't like it out as much. It's not working because you do have a little bit more appetite. 41:39 Speaker 2: Okay? But I can promise you behind the scenes, 41:42 Speaker 2: it's burning twice as much fat. And 41:45 Speaker 2: those of us who if it's been hard to, like, to lose that last little bit on your stomach, 41:52 Speaker 2: like, retard just might be the only key, the only answer that you have. And so are they I would would you at some point, like, don't I'm not you know, you don't have to quit it. It's done well and awesome. Maybe go until you really just do plateau on the tours, but 42:07 Speaker 2: it might be worth a try for the to go to Retta. But when you do, just give it a month. Okay? You're gonna immediately go and go, oh, well, I feel like I need to eat more. And you might eat a little bit more. And then you might 42:18 Speaker 2: think you're gaining a little bit of weight, but just stick with it. We've seen it countless times. Right? Somebody said said this exact same thing. Hey, I didn't, I don't feel it. I don't think it's working, but I just stick with it and holy shit, I'm on another level now, you know, a month Now it's really just burning fat. Plus I feel great. I have more energy. 42:37 Speaker 2: And it's still gonna inhibit you from eating a lot. K? But it will give you a little bit of appetite, but only appetite for good things. Changes your taste buds a little bit. Taste buds away from bad stuff. I know, man. It's weird. 42:49 Speaker 2: So think about this. So I don't know. You know? Hey. Do do what works. But again, it's and some people, I don't know, do do what you like, but don't don't shut you turn your back on that completely. 42:59 Speaker 2: You asked about GHK 43:01 Speaker 2: CU and NAD. 43:03 Speaker 2: I would do about 2.5 mg of GHK CU 43:08 Speaker 2: daily, maybe 3 times a week. K? There is such thing as doing too much copper. 43:14 Speaker 2: And 43:15 Speaker 2: so 2.5 mg, those usually come at 50 or 100 mg bottles. 43:21 Speaker 2: So 43:22 Speaker 2: hopefully, you could do the math. 43:24 Speaker 2: NAD plus. So NAD is an interesting 1. B. 43:28 Speaker 2: So people have sold this in different clinics where they've filled an IV bag, right, and done 1000 mg in a day, usually over 12 hours because it's a form of, like, niacin. And if it goes in too fast, it burns your veins like fire ants. So slowly, but but people can do 1000 43:45 Speaker 2: migs in a day. 43:47 Speaker 2: I my my general advice on this and how I do it is I don't definitely don't do it daily, and I'm doing it subcutaneous. 43:56 Speaker 2: But I start with 5 mg. I go 3 times a week. I gotta set schedule 3 times a week. Start at 5 mg per injection 44:05 Speaker 2: and then work up every single injection, 5 more milligrams. I'm aiming for 25 mg per injection. 44:12 Speaker 2: I know lots of people who do a lot more. I just really don't think that your body can actually take in and use much more than that. Right. 44:21 Speaker 2: There comes a point where you're doing too much. 44:24 Speaker 2: Okay? As as you get closer to that point, you might do it and, like, start to feel tingling in your- in your, like, legs. 44:31 Speaker 2: If you do more and more and more, that tingling can then be just overwhelming 44:36 Speaker 2: tingling sensation. I've done it to myself. I've been literally paralyzed and burning everywhere. 44:42 Speaker 2: It was just deep breaths. I'm not gonna die. 44:46 Speaker 2: I didn't pass out or die and everything came back, but it was, it was kinda weird, man. My, like, no, my nasal cavity just locked 44:53 Speaker 2: up on me. It is. 44:55 Speaker 2: It was kind of scary, but I've been through some 44:58 Speaker 2: really like scary shit. And so I figured this is not the way 45:03 Speaker 2: that it ends. 45:04 Speaker 2: So- 45:05 Speaker 2: AD got him. 45:07 Speaker 2: Yeah. Only man that died with peptides. Only man that died with peptides. William GH. I don't think that's gonna happen, but- So 25 mg, 3 days a week. Oh, but I was gonna say, I would go at your own pace until you get to about 1000 mg total. Okay? And if that takes you 2 months, great. If that takes you 3 months, awesome. 45:25 Speaker 2: Then, 45:26 Speaker 2: you give it a little mud break and then 45:29 Speaker 2: repeat. 45:30 Speaker 2: Rinse and repeat and 45:32 Speaker 2: do that for, hell, years if you want to continue to look younger and feel younger. 45:37 Speaker 2: MOTS-seventy 45:39 Speaker 2: 1 is basically just gonna give you more energy throughout the day, like ATP 45:43 Speaker 2: energy, cellular energy, 45:45 Speaker 2: not caffeine buzz energy, so good, long, sustainable 45:49 Speaker 2: energy. 45:51 Speaker 2: And, 45:52 Speaker 2: yeah, 45:54 Speaker 2: there you go. 45:55 Speaker 2: Rock them up. Yep. 45:56 Speaker 1: Let's see. 45:59 Speaker 1: Hello, 47 male on old school bodybuilding diet. I'm six'four, 2 65 pounds. 46:05 Speaker 1: I'm looking to lean out more. 46:08 Speaker 1: I'm looking to lean out more in 2026. 46:11 Speaker 1: I'm on Cessinol 2 50 and MPP 46:14 Speaker 1: plus a daily dose of Tadafinil, 46:16 Speaker 1: which is 46:19 Speaker 1: and 46:20 Speaker 1: dosed at 20 mg per day, which is a lot. 46:23 Speaker 1: I 46:24 Speaker 1: want to start the peptide route, not going to add any more AAS steroids. 46:30 Speaker 1: Where's a good route to start? HGH with testosterone 46:33 Speaker 1: question mark. 46:35 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Just looking slimmed down more body fat. Thank you. Huge supporter of the show, by the way, Mastrone is also my favorite as well. Well, 46:44 Speaker 1: I like Mastrone's will buddy. 46:46 Speaker 1: It's always been 1 of my favorite compounds. You know, I mean, we're heavily into peptides, but, you know, Will and I have dabbled through 46:53 Speaker 1: some of that stuff through the years. We're getting older, so definitely not as much as we used to. 46:58 Speaker 1: But we know about them. You tried them. We don't deny it. 47:02 Speaker 1: Mastroon is great. Mastroon and Winstraw always would be 2 of my favorites when it comes to that type of stuff. But 47:08 Speaker 1: what should you add? Well, if you want to get leaned out, my opinion is always going be read up. 47:13 Speaker 1: Everybody 47:14 Speaker 1: that, you mean you talk, if you can wait, you got bodybuilders, you got gym rats, you got people trying to lose weight. Everybody's doing well on it. Just contingent upon the dose. 47:23 Speaker 1: Now that's going to be huge. You can add in a Tesamorelin, Ipamorelin at night. You can add in an AOD. 47:30 Speaker 1: AOD 47:31 Speaker 1: is just, I, my buddy, 47:33 Speaker 1: Doctor. Scott actually just started that and like, I was trying to tell him to get on it for a long time. He finally did. He's like, Dude, this stuff is freaking amazing. 47:41 Speaker 1: It does is burn fat, man. It has 1 job, burns out. So those 3 together, I mean, there's so many fat burners. I mean, SLU-3P-three 47:49 Speaker 1: 32 is a exercise with my medic so that like you can take that and it's not an injectable. 47:55 Speaker 1: Mean, it can be, but, we like the sub sublingual the best. 47:59 Speaker 1: So you could do that and even a 5 amino 1 MQ, 48:03 Speaker 1: that's going to basically take your fat and burn it as fuel, kind of like a keto diet without doing a keto diet. So those, 48:09 Speaker 1: could pick them all. You can pick a few out of them. I would say Retta, AOD, Tessa, Ipah. If I had to choose, if you had a couple of bucks more and you really want to burn the hell out of that fat, you can even try the other 2. I've done it numerous times. I'm huge on fat burners. I love to be super 48:25 Speaker 1: lean and ripped. 48:26 Speaker 1: So I'm heavy into 48:28 Speaker 1: fat burners. That's why I like Mastrone and Winstraw back in the day, because those 2 are 48:33 Speaker 1: leaners than cutters, as they would say. So that's 48:36 Speaker 2: what it is, man. I think that those would do you well. What do got? I think that, yes, your answer to HGH on top of the TOT- HGH. 100%. That's the logical, that is the progression. 48:47 Speaker 2: It's 48:49 Speaker 2: amazing. Those of you know, if you're on tests or you do another AAS, 48:53 Speaker 2: which stands for anabolic angiogenic steroid, 48:57 Speaker 2: you, 48:59 Speaker 2: if normally, let's say you would just cut, cut it all, right, and not do any post cycle, you would loo-, you would lose weight. Okay? Lots of muscle was just run off you because your test is now on the floor and your cortisol's way up. Like, it's amazing if you're running growth and not even a lot, like he tells like 2 IUs, I go, I stay between like 2 to 3 IUs a day. You're a better than me. 49:21 Speaker 2: I am. Yeah. True. I probably have 50 pounds on you. 49:25 Speaker 2: Maybe more, but it's crazy how, like, you won't lose any muscle. 49:30 Speaker 2: Even 49:31 Speaker 2: if you did everything wrong. Now if you did, you might lose a little bit of muscle, but if you do everything right, you won't lose a damn thing. 49:38 Speaker 2: And that has been like, I don't really do much. I run some I run like a low dose of tests. 49:44 Speaker 2: Everyone Mastron is also my favorite. I've always just liked cutters and 49:49 Speaker 2: Mastron's great. Maybe I might do some Mastron every once in a while, but like, I can't even tell you last time I actually did a cycle of anything. I know it's been a while for you, Yeah, it's been a long time. And I think that, 50:01 Speaker 2: for another day, like I might be trying to get 50:05 Speaker 2: someone pregnant, 50:08 Speaker 2: Someone. Someone, but, 50:10 Speaker 2: did not, not do the- The person that lives with me. But yes, the person, the girlfriend. I also want to do the next step 1st, which is 50:19 Speaker 2: make her, 50:21 Speaker 2: calm her nerves 50:22 Speaker 2: not be pregnant without a- Me? Without a husband. So anyway, 50:27 Speaker 2: again, I don't even want to get into this right now. But, 50:31 Speaker 2: do yeah. So, so HGH for sure, man. That's what's, it's gonna keep muscle on you. It's not gonna make you big. People think HGH is like some miracle drug. Oh, I wanna get jacked and all that be doing a lot. GHGH. Right? It's not even about that, but like you he it'll make things easier. It'll it'll speed your metabolism, 50:48 Speaker 2: and 50:49 Speaker 2: you sure as hell won't lose any muscle. So my guess is you have a decent amount of muscle on you because based on your height and weight and- MPP. Yes, And in fact, you're doing MPP and have done other stuff. So HGH for sure, dude, long term play. Okay? Start it every 51:05 Speaker 2: day. Just go. Don't even don't even don't even think about, you know, how long you've been doing it. Right? I would go for 10 years. 51:13 Speaker 2: Not longer. Don't even expect much either, 6 months. I would also start it now. Don't like, all right, I'm gonna get off of the test and all the AAS and then start my HGH. That doesn't make sense. Start your HGH so it's actually working before you decide to get off anything. Yeah. 51:29 Speaker 2: Also, just disclaimer, peptides, peptides, they are the 1 thing that there is not anything that's great for is putting extra muscle on a decently muscled man. Yeah. All right? They're 51:42 Speaker 2: just not that strong enough, right? That's why there's no side effects. That's why there's tons of side effects from steroids. 51:47 Speaker 2: Because that stuff works really, really well for putting on muscle. So there is no peptide that's going to match any of that stuff. 51:55 Speaker 2: IGF-1LR-three 51:56 Speaker 2: is something maybe to look at. It's kind of your best muscle building 1, but- 52:00 Speaker 1: MK-six 52:01 Speaker 1: 77, which is not an actual peptide. It's 52:05 Speaker 1: a non peptide secretagogue, 52:07 Speaker 1: so it's comparable to like a CJC or a 52:10 Speaker 1: Tesamorelin, 52:11 Speaker 1: but that 1 in particular, 52:13 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a SARM peptide, even though it's not the exact name. That's just, it would be like an Anabar. 52:19 Speaker 1: And I can say this because I've done them both. It's very similar in regards to my opinion on MK-1MQ 52:25 Speaker 1: you eat a lot more for 1. And that's, you know, I love, I love quoting Rich Piena, When you get big, you gotta eat big. So 52:32 Speaker 1: something like that, recommend that for a lot of bodybuilder or like guys that like to bulk that are just trying to stay a little bit like, 52:40 Speaker 1: get off the, the juice. Uh-huh. And go that route. So it's definitely a little bit cleaner. So MK. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 52:46 Speaker 2: And MK is basically like ipamorelin, 52:49 Speaker 2: but more it's in the same classification. So it works on your ghrelin receptor, which boosts your hunger. 52:55 Speaker 2: So 52:56 Speaker 2: don't I know, bro. You're gonna have to try everything he said about the fat burners and leaning out, I'll 2nd, and I will not reexplain 53:03 Speaker 2: his explanations. 53:04 Speaker 2: Okay? 53:05 Speaker 1: Alright. Good 53:07 Speaker 2: job, man. Yep. Yes. 53:10 Speaker 1: Sorry, guys. I'm a little sick. Alright. 53:12 Speaker 2: Will go 53:14 Speaker 2: oh, I'm a I'm 40 I'm 56. Yeah. Okay. I'm a 56 year old female 53:18 Speaker 2: and new to discovering the benefits of peptides. I took 53:22 Speaker 2: Tripeptide 53:23 Speaker 2: for 3 months and lost 35 pounds. 53:25 Speaker 2: Probably just talking about Reta, and now weigh 1 30, and my body fat percent is 18%. 53:31 Speaker 2: That's that's lean, 53:33 Speaker 2: for a woman. I work out 3 to 5 times a week and would like to see more definition, but also help with saggy skin and the weight loss slash age and antiaging. What would you recommend for me? Where would you recommend me getting it? And there is so much out there. I'm not sure what is legitimate or not. I've I I hear you. 53:52 Speaker 2: I'm currently taking NAD, 53:54 Speaker 2: GHKCu, 53:55 Speaker 2: and CJC, Ipamorelin 53:57 Speaker 2: blend that I obtained through an online physician. Love your podcast. Thanks. Wow. So 1st of all, DM us. 54:05 Speaker 2: DM JD probably more I me too, but he's a better responder. 54:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. 54:11 Speaker 2: And 54:13 Speaker 2: he can help you with kinda with good 54:15 Speaker 2: good sourcing. 54:16 Speaker 2: K? 54:19 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, shoot. 1st of all, 18% is damn 54:24 Speaker 2: good. 54:24 Speaker 2: Oh, so I can just get my look. So GHK-two is where it's at. I think there, I would say SNAP-eight, 54:31 Speaker 2: you can 54:32 Speaker 2: connect there's injectable SNAP-eight, right, and it works only locally. 54:36 Speaker 2: It's still a peptide. 54:38 Speaker 2: And for specific like saggy skin spots, that's absolutely 54:43 Speaker 2: worth a shot, 100%. 54:45 Speaker 2: It 54:46 Speaker 2: is kind of, it's 54:48 Speaker 2: what makes Botox Botox. 54:51 Speaker 2: You will see it often in serums. 54:54 Speaker 2: So 54:55 Speaker 2: we have a serum that I would like to just point out something. I don't even think you realize this, the concentration of ours. It's amazing, but- I read that. From the cannabis? Yeah. I saw that. Yeah. 55:08 Speaker 2: The U. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. But the blue serum is 55:13 Speaker 2: well, so SNAP-8 helps just tighten your skin up a bit. So you can inject it or maybe just topically put it on wherever. I don't know if it's really gonna, you know, it's good like facial serum topically, you know, snap a bit. I don't see it, I don't know if you have an inch loose skin 55:29 Speaker 2: sucking that much up. Oh yeah, why not? Depends, depends. Depends. I think that GHK CU, 55:35 Speaker 2: even BPC, 55:36 Speaker 2: just because the angiogenesis 55:38 Speaker 2: is forming, like creating new blood vessels, it actually is good for your damn skin too, because right? Blood brings life and, know, and the newness. People who smoke nicotine, 55:47 Speaker 2: you know, they have developed wrinkles because because nicotine is deoxygenating 55:52 Speaker 2: and deblooding the skin, and so your skin starts to die off. 55:57 Speaker 2: That's why you get loose and wrinkled. So BPC, frankly, might even help. I 56:04 Speaker 2: don't know what else she asked. Go ahead. I think that's great. I think that 56:09 Speaker 1: nails it. I mean, if you're, you know, where your age is at, it's just kind of part of the game. How much loose skin he's right. I mean, 56:16 Speaker 1: I no longer inject a sub Q in my belly just because I've done it for so long. There's some areas where I just kind of felt like the skin was getting thicker because I'd done it for so long. 56:27 Speaker 1: I've injected the SNAP-eight recently and I whether I always say this, whether it's placebo or not, it sure seems like it's thinning that little fatty part out. So try that. They call it Botox in a bottle for a reason. 56:41 Speaker 1: So you can try it again. 56:42 Speaker 1: Don't say how much skin, but then you, like Will said, you can also rub that serum 56:48 Speaker 1: in that area. That's what it's for. 56:51 Speaker 1: GHK- 56:52 Speaker 1: has 56:53 Speaker 1: multiple 56:54 Speaker 1: things that it does, but skin, hair, nails is where it really shines. 56:59 Speaker 1: So you're definitely on a good track there. 57:04 Speaker 1: I recommend getting in also on my side. Yeah, so shoot me a DM 57:08 Speaker 1: depending on where you found us and 57:11 Speaker 1: we can help you and you can ask or our team some other questions in regards to safe places to get in and so to speak. Yep. 57:19 Speaker 1: All right, you're up. All right. I lost about 40 pounds with TRT and diet and exercise. Good for you. That's huge. I started Peptide Journey and another 20 pounds just fell off and the excess fat just keeps falling off. Cool, man. Started at 3 20 while it's a lot and I'm down to 2 60. That is so awesome. When I was in the army and in great shape, was 2 15. So I'm shooting for 2 25. Screw that man, go to 2 15. 57:46 Speaker 1: You can do it. Loose skin is already starting to show and I'm sure that it's just the beginning. Are there any peptides and protocols that help with the loose skin? 57:55 Speaker 1: Currently doing TB-five hundred, 1 mg daily, BPC-one hundred 57, 0.5 a mg daily, and Retatrutide 3.5 58:03 Speaker 1: mg weekly. Just finished the cycle of NAD. Anything else I should look at as well? You want to run that? I feel like we just did our best answer so 58:11 Speaker 1: if you have a lot of excess 58:13 Speaker 1: skin because you've lost a lot of weight, you know, there's just nothing that's gonna like fix that. It's just unfortunately, 58:19 Speaker 1: probably the surgery, right? 58:21 Speaker 2: Like that much loose skin. I'll tell you what, like I actually just wrote in my notes here, like I'm going to do some research and asking around to see if there is, 58:30 Speaker 2: yeah, if there is some specific protocol that would really, really target loose skin. I will say, you know, the SNAP-8s. So we have an older woman who we love, and she 58:41 Speaker 2: was running SNAP-8s early on. Early on, she was doing a bunch of SNAP-8s, injecting it to sub q, 58:46 Speaker 2: and then said, hey, guys, do you guys think that this is really, like, gonna be tightening up my skin everywhere? And we said, oh, no. No. I don't think yeah. 58:55 Speaker 2: Right. It's just gonna kinda work locally. And she said, 58:59 Speaker 2: alright. Understood. I'll probably stop, but I'll tell you what, my 59:03 Speaker 2: belly 59:04 Speaker 2: skin is way tighter than it ever was before. That's where she was just doing it every, like, every day, 3 days a week. You know? So, 59:12 Speaker 2: again, depending on how much loose skin we're talking. Right. 59:16 Speaker 1: For that much weight, I mean, I would imagine you're gonna have a of loose skin. 59:20 Speaker 2: Not sure if it's not to, but I'll we're gonna look up look it up and 59:24 Speaker 2: see 59:25 Speaker 2: what we can find. Alright. 59:28 Speaker 1: Take us home. Final question. 59:30 Speaker 2: Hey, guys. Love the show. 31 year old active male 59:33 Speaker 2: on an animal based diet, currently around 16% body fat. I had testicular cancer at 17. 59:39 Speaker 2: Damn. Surgery only. Bummer. 59:42 Speaker 2: Fully resolved. I'm on my 1st peptide cycle for GH support, 59:46 Speaker 2: fat loss, energy recovery, Tesamorelin, 59:49 Speaker 2: Ipamorelin, BPC- 59:50 Speaker 2: MOTS C, NAD plus, low dose Retta, 59:53 Speaker 2: Thymosin Alpha. Thinking about increasing my MOTS C around workouts, 59:57 Speaker 2: turning NAD plus more frequently and titrating Reta slightly higher. Question 1, any red flags or smarter tweaks? Question 2, after cutting to 10% body fat, I wanna pivot lean muscle and 1:00:10 Speaker 2: skin quality. Does the stack of CJC 1:00:13 Speaker 2: that CJC 1:00:15 Speaker 2: 12 95 with Ipamot 1:00:18 Speaker 2: c NAD plus GHK-two BPC TB makes sense? Yeah. 1:00:24 Speaker 2: Okay, so to address these questions, I 1:00:27 Speaker 2: have no red flags other than I think you mentioned the cancer thing and 1:00:31 Speaker 2: it's been 14 1:00:33 Speaker 2: years. 1:00:36 Speaker 2: So I hope just 1:00:38 Speaker 2: And It sounds like you've thought about this, 1:00:41 Speaker 2: and I don't think you're asking about the red flags 1:00:44 Speaker 2: because you are doing growth hormone support. Growth hormone can help tissue, 1:00:48 Speaker 2: cancerous or not, grow. 1:00:51 Speaker 2: But 1:00:52 Speaker 2: it is generally my understanding 1:00:55 Speaker 2: is if you've been 14 years completely 1:00:58 Speaker 2: free, 1:00:59 Speaker 2: then you don't have any more cancer on you. So 1:01:03 Speaker 2: that's a 1:01:04 Speaker 2: you question there, Matt. 1:01:07 Speaker 2: But, and it sounds like you already 1:01:09 Speaker 2: came over that. Other red flags other than that, dude, like, 1:01:14 Speaker 2: it's everything 1:01:16 Speaker 2: looks great, 1:01:18 Speaker 2: You don't tell me what your what 1:01:21 Speaker 2: your dosing 1:01:22 Speaker 2: is. So other than microdosing Reta, and so everything that you said is like, yeah, cool. Go ahead. Titrate Reta a little bit. You know, you can run. Good. Okay. You can do more NAD, I think. 1:01:35 Speaker 2: Don't know where you were started. 1:01:37 Speaker 2: But 1:01:38 Speaker 2: MOTS c, I generally just try and do, like, 1 mg a day and 5 mg of of SS 31 a day with that. 1:01:47 Speaker 2: And CJC, 1:01:49 Speaker 2: 12 95 with 1:01:51 Speaker 2: DAC, 1:01:52 Speaker 2: with Ipi. 1:01:54 Speaker 2: So I have done 1:01:57 Speaker 2: our growth hormone 1:01:59 Speaker 2: is 1:02:01 Speaker 2: put out in different pulses, about 6 pulses or so a day. That's our natural state and it's like kind of these short releases. Okay? 1:02:09 Speaker 2: No 1:02:10 Speaker 2: DAC 1:02:11 Speaker 2: will 1:02:12 Speaker 2: keep it short. 1:02:14 Speaker 2: Okay? 1:02:15 Speaker 2: The DAC, 1:02:17 Speaker 2: adding DAC in will make it a really long release. Okay? Which in turn, it's kinda like using a long estro steroid versus a short estro steroid. Okay? The long estro 1 over time will be more effective. Okay? So with DAC, it's going to release more of a fluid 1:02:34 Speaker 2: constant 1:02:36 Speaker 2: growth hormone output, which is not the natural way that it's done. You will end up having more growth hormone, 1:02:42 Speaker 2: but therefore more potential side effects, Okay? Because it's lingering in you, you're having too much, 1:02:48 Speaker 2: etcetera, etcetera, 1:02:49 Speaker 2: versus the shorter 1. 1:02:51 Speaker 2: It's the more natural way plus they're pulsing and 1:02:55 Speaker 2: then stopping that pulse. So there's not as much of a worry about overdoing it. So just FYI, 1:03:01 Speaker 2: I tend to like to know DAC, okay? You gotta inject it more frequently. With DAC, you get to inject less frequently. 1:03:09 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's probably the best 1 for the secretagogs. 1:03:13 Speaker 2: That's gonna be the strongest, CGC and Ipamorelin. 1:03:16 Speaker 2: And IGF-1LR-three, 1:03:18 Speaker 2: after you're done cutting and you want to add some muscle, I would absolutely try that. 1:03:23 Speaker 2: Keep in mind, so 10%, 10% bumps is like that's when you get to see a 6 pack as a general rule. So that's a good spot. 1:03:31 Speaker 2: Mark my words here though, you might not get to 10% without putting on a good amount of muscle. 1:03:38 Speaker 2: Alright? Closer you get to 10%, man, the slower that, the harder it is to get that last fat off. And unfortunately, people usually cut down to get there and that, they lose muscle on the way there and your metabolism inherently 1:03:51 Speaker 2: slows down the less muscle that you have and therefore making it almost impossible to get down there without a good amount of muscle. 1:03:58 Speaker 2: So 1:03:59 Speaker 2: don't forget about putting on muscle while you're cutting, I guess. Gotta eat. Eat, eat, eat good protein, eat some fat, 1:04:07 Speaker 1: but muscle need fat to fat to grow. Go ahead. This is a thought through question. I mean, you can tell, put some thought on and you know kind of what you're doing. You can just tell in the question. So I love it. I'm going to take it. He's already answered, I think, that part well, the peptides, I'm going to take it on the left field here that I like to talk about. So, 1:04:26 Speaker 1: you know, we have a good buddy of ours that had cancer when he was younger and he's asked us about growth 1:04:32 Speaker 1: hormone peptides, growth hormone security dogs, and HGH. 1:04:35 Speaker 1: Both of us separately answered the same way. We don't think he should do it. Now you're a grown man, you can do what you want. I just think that you could probably get some other things in you, which I wouldn't want to mess with that. But 1:04:46 Speaker 1: here's another way that you can maybe get some of that growth hormone 1:04:50 Speaker 1: without taking a secretagog or whatnot is fasting. 1:04:54 Speaker 1: You should be fasting anyway. 1:04:55 Speaker 1: I'm obviously anybody that follows my channels. I am huge on it for multiple reasons. 1:05:01 Speaker 1: I just had this conversation with a buddy of mine that his 1:05:05 Speaker 1: good friend of his got cancer and he and I were talking about it at the gym and 1:05:10 Speaker 1: I've read a lot about fasting. I just really geek out on things when I'm super intrigued by them. So for years and years, I read a lot about fasting. And if I ever got cancer, 1 of the things that I would do is a 25 1:05:21 Speaker 1: fast. 1:05:23 Speaker 1: Cancer thrives on glucose, so you would starve the hell out of that sucker. And there's been a lot of success with people that do that type of stuff. So the reason I'm saying that is 1:05:32 Speaker 1: I would add fasting into your protocol because of your past regardless. 1:05:36 Speaker 1: Now, I personally 1:05:38 Speaker 1: would, if you were a good friend of mine, suggest you pull the secretagogues 1:05:42 Speaker 1: out because you can do an AOD that wouldn't increase your IGF-one 1:05:47 Speaker 1: or 1:05:48 Speaker 1: anything in regards to that stuff. 1:05:52 Speaker 1: AOD is great for a cutter 1:05:54 Speaker 1: and fat burner, 1:05:56 Speaker 1: and you don't have to worry about some of that stuff. And I would say just try some fasting. 1, it's amazing for discipline. 2, it's amazing for your body. 1:06:04 Speaker 1: And 3, when you get to the 16 hour mark, give or take, your body's going to start those spurts of the growth hormone. 1:06:12 Speaker 1: So you're going to get some of that stuff like the old school way. 1:06:16 Speaker 1: And that way is a little bit safer in my opinion. And if you're going to be anything like me, once you start tapping into discipline, man, and you really start to open those doors, it's amazing, man. There is this empowerment in 1:06:30 Speaker 1: the discipline of those types of things. So I would throw some fasting into that. Will already answer the peptide ones well. 1:06:36 Speaker 1: So I'll throw the diet and fasting in and 1:06:39 Speaker 1: hope you try that because I think it would do well for you. 1:06:42 Speaker 1: Yep. Good stuff. Yeah, man. Good. So that 1:06:46 Speaker 1: is the last 1 before 1:06:48 Speaker 1: Will goes under the knife, if it's the knife 1:06:52 Speaker 1: or the pen, whatever you tell, where they do it, we'll see how he does. So the next 1, 1:06:56 Speaker 1: I think we're going to try to do the Peptide of the Week on Friday, if you're up to it. And 1:07:01 Speaker 1: we asked on the Instagram 1:07:03 Speaker 1: channel 1:07:04 Speaker 1: for some people that what peptides do you want to dig into? 1:07:08 Speaker 1: So a lot of people already responded, so thanks to that. So if you follow us on Instagram, 1:07:14 Speaker 1: on the story, shoot us a couple of some things that you want us to talk about for the next 1:07:19 Speaker 1: peptide of the week. We're going to tackle 2, and then coming up in the next week to 2 weeks, we're going to have our 1st doctor on, 1:07:27 Speaker 1: Doctor. Tyler Stanley, 1:07:29 Speaker 1: who is a testosterone 1:07:31 Speaker 1: replacement 1:07:32 Speaker 1: doctor, and he's a friend of ours, and that will be fun. 1:07:37 Speaker 1: So that's the next what's coming up. Everybody give anybody the praise and believes in God, give this dude a 1:07:43 Speaker 2: throw him up and some prayer. And other than that, we will see you on the next round. Yeah, I'll take your prayers just in general. But like, I'm not going under any general anesthesia. I know. There's no way to life. There's no- 1st thing I ask them, can they though? I'd be like, you're gonna put me on No doubt. Right? I hate the dentist. I want to next time if I ever go locally, 1:08:03 Speaker 2: secret trick, have My dad always had me wash my mouth out with hydrogen peroxide. Like drink it. No, don't swallow it, but, 1:08:11 Speaker 2: drink it. So I've always done that and 1:08:14 Speaker 2: we're gonna Like, I have avoided cavities forever. Really? Yeah. I never heard of that. But 1:08:20 Speaker 2: I hate the dentist. So if I had to do any work, like, I can't even, 1:08:24 Speaker 2: I was traumatized 1 time that they didn't put the non increase on my gums before they gave me the shot. Oh my god. Was horrible. But 1:08:33 Speaker 2: I hate it. I just would like them to put me out completely. I think I will, if I ever have to go to the dentist again to get anything done. Like even teeth cleaning, I'm not doing it without being dumb. 1:08:43 Speaker 2: But yeah, dude, I don't know. I'll be fine, but I will, 1:08:46 Speaker 2: yeah. I mean, I'll take anybody's good, 1:08:48 Speaker 2: good wishes. Hell yeah. We'll 1:08:51 Speaker 2: catch all the help I can get. Catch you on the next round. Later guys.