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0:09Speaker 0Welcome back to the Pepatide of the Week Podcast.
0:12Speaker 0I'm your host, JD Denham, and right next to me, my buddy, my cohost, William T. Haws.
0:18Speaker 0Dude, how are you? I'm tired. I'm burnt out. I'm
0:22Speaker 0Christmased out. Christmased out. White flag on Christmas, bro. No mas. Yeah. It's the 22nd today. I know. What day is it? 22nd. So we were recording this on the 22nd and we were laughing beforehand because we were talking about how we were both Christmased out
0:37Speaker 1and I got no more Christmas parties in me. No, no more Christmas parties. We had like, yeah, 4 Christmas parties last week and,
0:45Speaker 0yeah, it's just a lot, man. I didn't even make it to Will's. Yeah, that's a lot. That's how many I had to attend. I was babysittered out. Right, my girlfriend.
0:54Speaker 1Right. You having a time? A Christmas party. I mean, I can.
0:59Speaker 1Not really. Not
1:02Speaker 1really, but she did and her friends did. So
1:06Speaker 0I haven't seen your house yet. It's nice. It's nice.
1:08Speaker 1It was a good Did you see pictures of that of the night? Just the I'll tell you what. So people posted them, so I got to Christmas lights up everywhere. And everybody who came over was like, woah. How much do pay to put all these lights up? I'm like, no. I just did it myself. I mean, bullshit.
1:21Speaker 1No way. So apparently, I did a good job. There you go. But I don't know. I think that that's fun. It's time consuming. Yeah. But it wasn't that bad. I would usually work. I'd come home and like, okay, I'm gonna wrap this 1 tree.
1:32Speaker 1And then I just kind of slowly and things came together. Just get her done? Yeah. But it's been a lot,
1:39Speaker 0and I'm happy
1:40Speaker 1that it's over with.
1:42Speaker 0No mas. Well, we're almost done, buddy. This is the last time, dude, last 2 weeks of the year, man, this year flew by quick. I am, can I wait? I'm heading to Cabo
1:50Speaker 0tomorrow with my wife and my boys, and man, have I had a great year, but I have had a year that we have worked hard and I
1:58Speaker 0cannot wait to spend some time with kids.
2:01Speaker 0Yeah, Not in like a chaos
2:04Speaker 0time and dote on them, and it's gonna be hot. That's why we're going to Cabo. It's gonna rain for you guys. It is. So we're leaving you with some rain, and we're gonna sit by We the beach in the need some rain. We need some rain.
2:15Speaker 0So it is a Q and A time, and, you know, we wanted to, real quick, just drop something real quick, so if you missed last episode with Paul Bactiar, 1 of our good friends, and,
2:25Speaker 0you know, when you work in this
2:27Speaker 0industry and realm and, you know, there's a lot coming down the pike, as anybody that's into peptides knows, there's just a lot of things that we see
2:35Speaker 0going to change. There's a lot of things we don't know. We're trying to stay ahead of the curve. We're trying to give you best information as we know. So if you missed it, check it out. There's a lot of good information with Paul on kind of what to expect
2:46Speaker 0with GLP-1s
2:47Speaker 0and just peptides in general,
2:49Speaker 0And we're gonna continue to do that as we know, because we all stick together in this
2:56Speaker 0healthy world that we all live in. You know, it's a lifestyle for Will and I and a lot of people, right? Yep. Healthy exercise,
3:03Speaker 0nutrition,
3:04Speaker 0and all that stuff. So if you miss it, check it out and see kind of what's coming down the pike. There's a lot of people concerned.
3:12Speaker 0You've to be able to get your peptides, in our opinion. I won't speak for Will, in my opinion, they're probably going to be more costly. That's just the way it is. It is what it is, right? Things don't usually go down. Supply and demand, right? But you will be able to get them if you do have the means to get them before the end of the year. If you do, why don't you just stock up on some of the ones you love just in case? If you don't,
3:32Speaker 0it just is what it is. So that would be my advice.
3:35Speaker 1Yeah. And know that, well,
3:37Speaker 1there's gonna be a lot more like censoring.
3:39Speaker 1We're already seeing it take place. Good point. And I'm only bringing this up just because it's facts.
3:45Speaker 0Yeah.
3:47Speaker 0We feel it. So we like, yeah, right. We feel that there will be a lot more censoring. So like if we can't find 1 of our podcasts, it's because they took it down and- Well, we haven't been putting it on YouTube, so that kind of bums me out because we love YouTube. You know, Spotify
3:59Speaker 0and Apple are top anyway, but, you know, people go into YouTube. I do. I'm on YouTube. I don't even watch TV anymore. I'm just scrolling. I'm on YouTube.
4:07Speaker 0So we had decided to take the podcast down
4:11Speaker 0off of YouTube because they flagged us for whatever reason, and we don't even know why, and we don't want to get our YouTube taken abound because it's pretty big, you know? So anyways, we're just kind of filling you in, you know, Will and I were talking off before we started recording
4:24Speaker 0that,
4:25Speaker 0you know, I try to read signs. I've gotten older. I'm 48 years old, and I try to read the signs on everything, right? If you see something over and over, I try to see it. So we are noticing our social media channels heavily
4:38Speaker 0getting nailed. You know, I run the social medias mainly,
4:41Speaker 0and so, know, Will and I sit down and kind of put a strategy together,
4:46Speaker 0and they're just getting nailed, and there are some things that I'm posting that are just very lukewarm compared to what I see out there, so just be prepared, y'all. You know, just know that there's changes coming down the pike. I think everybody's kind of feeling it, so we'll do our best to navigate through it and share with you how you could do that too.
5:06Speaker 1Yep. Cool. So, right, if there's, I don't know, yeah, so we just need to be, I guess we do need to maybe be careful about what we say. It'd be really nice to just be able to actually have free speech, but that's not the case. Well,
5:20Speaker 0that's another thing that we haven't talked about in a while is, you know, we are building an outside source where you're gonna be able to pull from our social medias, where we actually control them, we can talk more freely, and we're not having to worry about, you know, Instagram shutting us down or YouTube shutting us down. So that's 1 of our main focuses that we will get, are going to get done very soon. We've been juggling a lot, but right, we are going to get that sucker done so that we can wrap with you and answer some of your questions. If you're on our social media, the Warrior page, you know that we can't respond to you for 3 days, so that's why. Not ignoring
5:52Speaker 0you. We're not allowed per Instagram to respond to our DMs for 3 days
5:57Speaker 0for something. So there you go. There it All right, let's get into what you came for. So I'm gonna let you do the honors. As always, you always start us off. Okay. Q and A episode.
6:06Speaker 0Let's do this. Q and A.
6:09Speaker 1For a woman,
6:11Speaker 1how do I determine if an HCG or testosterone siponate is the better choice? What ranges for sex hormones should a woman be,
6:20Speaker 1and not the actual, not the clinical ranges,
6:23Speaker 1right?
6:24Speaker 1Because as we know, for example, right, I think it's the FDA
6:29Speaker 1is on
6:30Speaker 1If you're a personal trainer and you have a certification, right, you are not allowed to tell people, not allowed to prescribe a meal plan or tell people, because you have a professional responsibility,
6:40Speaker 1to eat
6:42Speaker 1to eat a mix of macros that is outside of what the FDA scope is. And I believe
6:49Speaker 1the lowest amount of carb percentage that a person's allowed to recommend is something like 60% carbs. Wow. I never knew that. Crazy. So
6:58Speaker 1that's kind of what we're- Clinical ranges.
7:01Speaker 1Also, you know, basically the clinical ranges, we all know
7:05Speaker 1BMI,
7:06Speaker 1right, your body mass index, is really just meant for like severely obese or severely
7:11Speaker 1underweight people. Like, I would rank as like
7:14Speaker 1oh, absolutely obese on a BMI scale. Yeah, right. Okay?
7:18Speaker 1They basically say everybody for this age,
7:21Speaker 1gender
7:22Speaker 1and height should be this tall. Well, I or I mean, this should be this heavy. Yeah. And I have way more muscle. I'm way heavier, so it takes no 1 in takes
7:33Speaker 1does not take into account fat or muscle. And the last thing is, like, all these ranges, these clinical ranges, right, are meant for an average American. What do we know about average Americans? They're not healthy. They're not healthy. So if you are average
7:47Speaker 1to an average American,
7:49Speaker 1that's just not good. Yeah. In my opinion. True that. Okay.
7:53Speaker 1So that's kinda why she asked to to not don't don't just tell me the clinical oranges. Our kinda gal. So
8:00Speaker 1I think we actually consulted Doctor. Scott on this 1 because he does a lot of
8:07Speaker 1TOT Blood work. Blood blood
8:09Speaker 0work readings for men and women. And he's a holistic type doctor. So
8:14Speaker 1you want to kind tell her what
8:16Speaker 0we found? Yeah, yeah. So for testosterone,
8:20Speaker 0for women, it's gonna range for 15 to 70
8:24Speaker 0nanograms per deciliter.
8:26Speaker 0So that's a good range, you know? So compared to
8:30Speaker 0a man, who would say like
8:32Speaker 0900 to 1,100 is going be like ideal. Mean, everybody's a little bit different. Same for women. You got to find your sweet spot. Where do you feel good? Where do you feel energy?
8:42Speaker 0Testosterone replacement for women. I mean, we've had such a cool experience of women in premenopausal menopause getting on testosterone replacement and literally changing their lives, just like men. We hear them all the time.
8:54Speaker 0So when you talk about your free testosterone, 0.5 to 4 basically is where you're going to be in the free testosterone compared to a man where I ideally think free test is about a 45.
9:04Speaker 0That's
9:05Speaker 0awesome. Everybody's a little bit different. So there you go, 15 to 70
9:09Speaker 0for the total
9:11Speaker 1test and free test, 0.5 to 4. Ladies, there you go. And that is nanograms per deciliter. Are readings a blood test that you get back. Total test is just how much total testosterone you have. Doesn't mean you could use it. Free test is the stuff you actually get to use. Yeah. I guess- Sex drive. Does test siponated HCG, like, siponated is the hormone, okay? That's
9:32Speaker 1gonna be the stronger
9:34Speaker 0treatment. Yeah, gets to the jugular plate. Yeah,
9:37Speaker 1that will
9:39Speaker 1You maybe wanna take your blood test, see how far away from those ranges you are, and then that will help your decision on
9:46Speaker 1which route you wanna do.
9:49Speaker 1Because so if you're very deficient,
9:51Speaker 1then maybe, like, the actual testosterone is the way to go. I would imagine- Almost there, cool. HCG.
9:58Speaker 1Yeah. But testosterone is the hormone
10:01Speaker 1that, bam, is gonna work immediately. HCG is just stimulating
10:06Speaker 1to help out. Yep. Now, to be honest,
10:11Speaker 1I don't I can't give you the scientific explanation of how HCG works in a woman
10:15Speaker 1because it's
10:17Speaker 1human chorionic gonadotropin,
10:19Speaker 1which helps your gonads
10:22Speaker 1in a man produce more testosterone.
10:25Speaker 1And it doesn't really win in men, by the way, just to taking HCG,
10:30Speaker 1like, to raise your testosterone, doesn't really work. Doesn't
10:34Speaker 1do it enough.
10:36Speaker 0That's like a shitload. Yeah, and then still-
10:40Speaker 0Causes other problems. Yeah. But
10:43Speaker 0it will accidentally make your wife pregnant, so. Cool thing about testosterone replacement, even for men, it's so much more acceptable, and you have so many more doctors now starting to accept it,
10:55Speaker 0know about it, and actually know what they're talking about. And even for women, it's just becoming so much more common, so thank God for that. Yeah. I mean, so the still people that are still like just leaving agitated comments and stuff, man, come on, bro. Like, get with the times, man. It's changing
11:10Speaker 0people's lives. Just get with the times and just worry about yourself for the most part. Stroll past, my man. All right. Good, man. All right. What do we got? I know Will talked This is gonna be you, all you, baby. I know Will talked about the last on the last podcast.
11:24Speaker 0Can you definitely clarify reconstituting
11:27Speaker 0AOD-nine 604,
11:29Speaker 0what to use ratios
11:31Speaker 0and where to buy it. So how do you suggest
11:35Speaker 0reconstituting
11:36Speaker 0AOD?
11:37Speaker 1Okay, so
11:38Speaker 1AOD is hydrophobic.
11:40Speaker 1It does not like mixing with water. So if you mix in just regular bacteriostatic water, there's a good chance it's gonna gel up,
11:48Speaker 1maybe not immediately, but after a couple days. So
11:51Speaker 1acetic acid is the name of the game. Right? That's what's gonna really make it, yeah, absorb fully in water and stay that way. My suggestion
12:01Speaker 1is find a acetic acid
12:04Speaker 10.6%
12:08Speaker 1and
12:09Speaker 1mix with glycerin
12:12Speaker 1up to 3%.
12:14Speaker 1Acetic acid is acidic, so you can just do acetic acid and
12:19Speaker 1bacteriostatic
12:20Speaker 1water,
12:21Speaker 1which is benzyl alcohol and distilled water. But
12:25Speaker 1it may burn, it may have a little acidic effect. The glycerin in there is to kind of dull a little bit of the acidity,
12:33Speaker 1and it might be more comfortable. And so where to get it? So basically, acetic acid, bacterial static water is what you're looking for.
12:41Speaker 1Even better, I prefer, like, acid
12:44Speaker 1glycerol acetate, I think, is basically what they're what they call it. I get my waters,
12:50Speaker 1from bacterialstaticwater.com.
12:54Speaker 1Yeah.
12:55Speaker 1No. That's not right. So, no, that's not the actual website. It's medicalbackwater.com.
13:02Speaker 1Medicalbackwater.com.
13:05Speaker 0There you go. Sorry.
13:06Speaker 1That's where I get it, there is. You will see exactly what I'm talking about. Okay?
13:11Speaker 1They have regular bacterial static water. They have the
13:15Speaker 1glycerol acetate.
13:18Speaker 1And yeah, there's that. Now you also asked, how do I
13:23Speaker 1mix it? How much do I mix it? So most of you I prefer 5 mg AOD because even then I do 10 mg is just too much powder to mix, and there's a good chance it's gonna gel off. Mhmm. So 5 mg of AOD,
13:36Speaker 1I would put 1 mil of water in.
13:39Speaker 1K? And then, I don't know, you are more familiar. You do AOD-1. 2.5
13:44Speaker 1mils. Mhmm. You put 2.5, and then you inject how much? 20 20
13:50Speaker 0units.
13:51Speaker 0You do 20 units? 20 units morning and night. Okay. So-
13:55Speaker 0So the other mixing protocol is 2.5 mils. Okay.
14:02Speaker 1So at 20 units will be 400 micrograms.
14:06Speaker 1Okay?
14:08Speaker 1So that's a little less than 0.5 of a milligram.
14:12Speaker 1All right? You frankly could, folks, but
14:16Speaker 1AOD is kind of different. A lot of these, you can say, hey, I don't even need to add that much water because you just need the bare minimum amount of water that will mix the powder. With AOD, you probably do wanna go with more water possible so it gels so it does not have a good chance of gelling up. Yeah. So 2.5
14:32Speaker 1is probably a good idea. I
14:35Speaker 1think the range should be between, you know, what is it, between 200 micrograms
14:39Speaker 1and maybe even a full milligram
14:42Speaker 1daily.
14:43Speaker 0You can do a lot. 20
14:46Speaker 1is 400 micrograms.
14:49Speaker 140 units is 800 micrograms.
14:53Speaker 1I'd go between that range. Yeah. Okay. Daily morning fasted state. Absolutely. Next
15:00Speaker 1portion of that question.
15:03Speaker 0That was it. That was it.
15:05Speaker 1You're number 3. That helped. Yeah. Okay. Hey, I'd like to say thank you for giving us accurate information on how to use peptides in vegan healthful ways.
15:15Speaker 1My
15:16Speaker 1question is,
15:20Speaker 1is there any way SLU-three 32
15:22Speaker 1could cause easy bruising, skin issues, skin bleeding on the back of a person's hands and forearms?
15:28Speaker 1I'm a healthy, fit 40 year old male.
15:30Speaker 1And since I started taking SLU-five
15:33Speaker 1hundred micrograms twice daily,
15:35Speaker 1I have several, several skin bruises, abrasions on the back of hands and forearms. It's so bad that I always wear long sleeved shirts and try to cover my hands. Have you heard of others having this problem? Anything in SLU-3P's makeup that could be causing this at all? Thanks again.
15:50Speaker 0Good question.
15:51Speaker 0No, I have not. And, you know, we're always curious to see, you know, there's always possibilities.
15:59Speaker 0So we did some research to just make sure that we
16:05Speaker 0didn't know something that we need to know about, and I didn't find anything, man. We'd researched it. 1, we have worked with, gosh, countless people that run SLU-3Cu SLU is amazing. Yeah. And it's never come up once. You're the 1st. And then, so just out of respect for you and us, we wanted to know, no, we couldn't find anything in regards to the makeup. I think you're good. I mean, my suggestion for whatever that is worth is stop taking it for a bit. That stops, it's obviously the SLU-3.
16:33Speaker 0Right?
16:34Speaker 0That's the obvious, but you know, maybe if it doesn't stop, that's gonna tell you that it isn't that, and it could be diet, it could be all kinds of different things. So I would definitely stop taking it. SLU-3s great, but you can add a lot others that do just as well.
16:48Speaker 0So that would be my suggestion to answer your question. No, we couldn't find anything. Yeah, there's just, there's no, there is,
16:54Speaker 1I don't, yeah, on the internet, I could not find any reports of anybody experiencing that. So,
17:00Speaker 1but hey, again, out of respect to you, like, dude, who knows, man? You're just like allergic to something.
17:06Speaker 1I don't know. Could just be a specific personal problem,
17:10Speaker 1but for sure, trial and error, right? Why don't you pull it? See if that changes. Let us know too. I'm curious. Are you taking any blood thinners, anything that could thin your blood? Are you eating enough food? Right? I thought. In nutrients?
17:26Speaker 1Know- Healthy foods. So take
17:28Speaker 1a look at that. Are you doing anything more rough? Are there is there something causing these bruises?
17:32Speaker 1Are you hitting your forearms
17:34Speaker 1on something?
17:35Speaker 1So those are kind of those are typical reasons that
17:39Speaker 1you will get bruising more than a normal person.
17:42Speaker 1But that's odd, and that's not good if you're, like, having to hide your forearms.
17:46Speaker 0Yeah. So I think it's pretty bad too, skin bleeding and the I mean, really, I would to man. It's so good. It definitely wouldn't be worth it. Tell us what you tell us what you experience when you Honestly, though, shoot us a DM. I'm really kind of curious to see if it stops when you stop taking the SLU-3.
18:00Speaker 0So let us know.
18:02Speaker 0All right, hey man, your podcast is awesome. I'm looking to start Tesamorelin.
18:07Speaker 0I'm '36, five'eleven, 185 to 190 pounds.
18:11Speaker 0I work out 4 to 5 days a week. I'm looking to shed the bottom belly fat and love handles, currently 16% body fat.
18:20Speaker 0I'm taking TRT blend 200 mgs with 0.5
18:24Speaker 0anastrozole,
18:26Speaker 0pinning that daily, meaning he's talking about the test daily,
18:31Speaker 0at 15 units
18:32Speaker 0to stay level. I worked 12 hour swing shifts
18:36Speaker 0and would,
18:38Speaker 0sorry about that, I switched it over.
18:42Speaker 0Swing says, Would it be best to take it before I go to bed, whether I go to bed at 6AM or at
18:49Speaker 09PM?
18:50Speaker 0What should I start at for the dose?
18:52Speaker 0I'm also going to add Reta and looking for doses on that. Thanks, man. I appreciate any info that you can provide. Keep up the good fight.
19:00Speaker 0So you want to run me that or want me to jump in?
19:03Speaker 1Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm gonna give my feedback also. Testimorelin
19:07Speaker 0is great. It'll focus in right on that belly fat. I definitely suggest you add the Reta as well. Those 2 together are fire.
19:15Speaker 0I like that you're doing the 15 units daily,
19:19Speaker 0so that's a lot of pinning personally, so good on you.
19:22Speaker 0But I don't have that in me.
19:27Speaker 0Would it be best to take it before bed? Yes, my answer to that is yes. I would take whenever you're gonna go to bed, if you have odd sleeping hours, that's the best time to take it because you're going to be sleeping for that time. So yes, take it before bed. You always want to take Secretagog,
19:40Speaker 0especially Tesamorelin at night. So yes, take it then.
19:45Speaker 0And Retatrutide.
19:48Speaker 0It doesn't say what you're looking to lose in the objective, but what I'm going to say is we always generally,
19:54Speaker 0I'll say me, start pretty much the same,
19:57Speaker 010 units, so 1 mg, 3 times a week, Monday,
20:01Speaker 0Wednesday,
20:02Speaker 0Friday. The standard low dose for what recommended is 2.5
20:06Speaker 0mg. So always go 10 mg Monday, Wednesday, I mean, 10 units, so 1 mg Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. It does well for most people, and then you just got to find your sweet spot. Is that your sweet spot? I have no idea. You're going to have to figure out how you feel.
20:21Speaker 0Just know there's some, for some people there's initial, Woah, this is intense. That's how it was for me. I almost jumped ship. The 1st week was that's how it was, and then it leveled out immediately, and I'm glad I stayed on. So just know that your body has to adapt. You have to get used to these types of things, and then give it a few weeks, see how you feel, and then adapt the dosage based upon that. Yep,
20:43Speaker 1for sure.
20:45Speaker 1So your test, it looks like you're doing 200
20:48Speaker 1mg
20:50Speaker 1weekly.
20:50Speaker 1That's what your units,
20:52Speaker 115 units times 7 days a week add up to, which is good TRT dose. Typically. I mean, really everything he said, I 2nd on the Retatrut now and on Tesamorelin at night. My suggestion
21:04Speaker 1on dosing for the Tessa
21:07Speaker 1is
21:08Speaker 1I would start at 0.5 of a milligram,
21:11Speaker 1so 500 micrograms. This is Tesamorelin,
21:14Speaker 1not at Retatrutide, what he was talking about. Start
21:17Speaker 1with 0.5 of a milligram
21:19Speaker 1nightly.
21:20Speaker 1Doesn't matter. Cool. If you're
21:22Speaker 1to sleep at different times, let's still do it at night before you go to bed in a fasted state. So don't eat like an hour, hour and 0.5 before you do it.
21:30Speaker 1Start with 0.5 of a mg
21:33Speaker 1and then maybe do that for a week. And then if you want, you can increase to a full mg.
21:39Speaker 1It sounds like, you know, you're a big guy, and you should be able to handle a full milligram just fine. As you know, with all the secreta dogs, if you're doing a little too much, you might start to experience a little bit of excess water retention. So if you do experience that, drop the dose down and then titrate slower
21:57Speaker 1up.
21:58Speaker 1Okay?
22:00Speaker 1Yeah, if it's Tesamorelin 10 mg,
22:03Speaker 1here's the easy trick. Right? You're gonna put in just put 1 mil of water.
22:07Speaker 1Okay? Then every 10 units equals 1 mg. 1 mil.
22:11Speaker 15 units equals 0.5 a milligram. If it's a 20 mg of Tesamorelin, put in 2 mils of water, and then the math is the same.
22:20Speaker 110 units equals 1 mg. Yeah. Alright?
22:24Speaker 1Cool. Peasy.
22:25Speaker 1What are your thoughts about Follistatin?
22:28Speaker 1Yeah. Dosing
22:30Speaker 1and best time to take it. Absolutely love the podcast. Keep them coming. Thank you. You guys rock. Alright. So
22:36Speaker 1I have some personal experience with this and done some
22:40Speaker 1done kind of quite a bit of research. So 1st of all, Follistatin,
22:44Speaker 1we have a good friend who okay. So if you if you go on the Internet and you look up, like, buff cow,
22:49Speaker 1you may have seen pictures of these Belgian blue cows. Right? And it looks like their owner has just abused the hell out of them with steroids.
22:58Speaker 1Are lean and just muscle just rippling out. Like, know, it looks like the cow can't even walk at all. It probably can't do much.
23:07Speaker 1That is not the owner just dosing them with steroids.
23:11Speaker 1Like, that's actual, like, natural condition of that cow. So they have a disorder in their genes that inhibits
23:18Speaker 1the signal that tells them to stop growing muscle and inhibits the signal that says, Hey, for survival, we might need some fat.
23:26Speaker 1So they just grow, grow, grow, grow, grow, grow. And
23:30Speaker 1are Basically,
23:32Speaker 1that is in their genes is a form of the is of follistatin.
23:35Speaker 1So
23:36Speaker 1we have a friend. So scientists now have figured out how to
23:40Speaker 1pull that out of the cow,
23:43Speaker 1put it in the needle, and
23:46Speaker 1inject it back into people. So we have a friend that did that that spent $25.
23:50Speaker 1Went to Mexico. Obviously, I doubt they're doing I mean, they're not doing it in The United States.
23:55Speaker 1So 1 injection should last him 4 years,
23:58Speaker 1and it would cost him $25.
24:00Speaker 1He did it. He videotaped the whole damn thing, so it's like not a secret. You know, every step of the way, it's on camera.
24:08Speaker 1And if you ask him, like, he thinks, yeah, cool. I think it has worked a little bit. The problem is that he's already just like lean and jacked and always stays like that, and that's his body type. So
24:17Speaker 1I think that for him, it would have been a better experience for to use on somebody
24:23Speaker 1who's ripped already. Who's not ripped already, but also has the genetic,
24:26Speaker 1like, propensity to not just be a a lean person. You know? Somebody whose genes are like, oh, I've just always been kind of pudgy even when I work hard, right? It's just I still always have that layer. Like, that's the person that it might work better on. So that being said,
24:41Speaker 1that 1
24:43Speaker 1is
24:44Speaker 1expensive
24:45Speaker 1and blah, blah, blah. They've put a lot in a person. So Follistatin out here, the things I know, we have tried it a few times, and I've had lots
24:54Speaker 1of people try it. The
24:56Speaker 1welts that it gives you at the injection site are like, it basically feels like you have an abscess happening. Right? Like, you have an infection. Yeah. It's Bad pit. Hard spot
25:09Speaker 1wherever you put it, stomach, blah blah blah, or a friend, like, swelled up really bad.
25:14Speaker 1But and come to find out, like, that's
25:17Speaker 1customary.
25:18Speaker 1Right? And
25:19Speaker 1we know
25:21Speaker 1we get a lot of feedback, and we know
25:24Speaker 1the population, you people, and you can't deal with it.
25:28Speaker 1So we have not pursued
25:30Speaker 1really, like, using it or or suggesting it to people because I just know that nobody would they're very too Too painful. Too too much of a People won't even take GHKCU.
25:39Speaker 0Right.
25:40Speaker 1That stings really bad. So they won't even deal with that. So
25:43Speaker 1what it does, it basically falls out to me, is essentially just putting a signal out there that inhibits your body. Well, yes, it inhibits the signal that tells your body to stop growing muscle. Right. Okay.
25:53Speaker 1My thought is, guys, if it, so A, it's really it just seems like you're not- There's other things that will get there quicker. Other things that will get there quicker. Don't hurt If it really kicked ass and it worked- Here's the bottom line. It would be everywhere, Reta is, right? Reta is like literally it works. Everybody there Right?
26:09Speaker 1This worked as it says on paper,
26:13Speaker 1it'd be the most popular thing there is around. But it's not. And giving this giant syringe of like the actual
26:20Speaker 1DNA from that cow or whatever
26:23Speaker 1is probably a more legit and effective way. And that worked.
26:27Speaker 1I don't know. So
26:29Speaker 1He said, I kind of thought it would work. You do something for $25 and you go, I think it works. Well, it's justification to tell you where you go, dude, I spend that much easy on supplements every year. Right? So I'm just gonna down here anything? Well, that's But that was his plan. You know he did. Oh, yeah. He didn't stop at all. So That's funny. But whatever, dude. Cool. He did good. He's not dead. And
26:50Speaker 1he didn't grow 0.333 arm. He's a good dude.
26:52Speaker 1Yeah. And we like him. He's cool. He's actually been on this, so there's a hint. He's been on this podcast before. Yeah. Nobody. So,
26:59Speaker 1yeah, I don't know, dude. Follistatin, I don't have and I I just I don't have a lot of lot more experience for you. I'm sorry.
27:06Speaker 0There's probably other other other compounds that'll get you to what you want quicker, easier, and less painful. Yeah.
27:12Speaker 1Like
27:13Speaker 1eating lots of food Yeah. Protein and working out. Looking heavy. Yeah. Looking heavy. Being sleepy. Sleeping good mixed with replacement hormone hormone optimization.
27:22Speaker 1Alright. So a friend of mine passed along a question. A 46 year old female started Retta a month ago at 1 mg,
27:30Speaker 1so 0.5 migs 2 times a week. Super low. She is titrated up to the standard dose of 2.5 mg.
27:38Speaker 11 mg
27:39Speaker 1Monday and Friday, and then 0.5 mg on Wednesday. Got it. Okay? 1 1.51.
27:46Speaker 1Yeah. She is not seeing any of the benefit included at the food noise.
27:49Speaker 1Should she go to 1 shot a week and see if that makes a difference? She only saw minor weight loss from Semaglutide.
27:57Speaker 1Well,
27:58Speaker 1my thought here is okay. So
28:01Speaker 1well,
28:02Speaker 1different people have different tolerances. Okay? So she is titrated up.
28:06Speaker 1Let's rationally think about this. She is titrated up to
28:10Speaker 1bare minimum starting dose. And
28:13Speaker 1it's not and she's not getting the benefit of it. Well, you're just at the starting dose. That's why there's a starting dose, right? That's why there's room to grow.
28:21Speaker 0You started to bow and blow. So lost
28:23Speaker 1not all if you haven't got to the basic, like, effective dose yet.
28:29Speaker 1I would So, yeah, cool. There are some theories out there that, hey, it might work a little bit better if it's done once a week, right? There's theories out there that might work better if it's done 3 times a week. That's worth a try, but I don't think it's worth like going, Oh, well, it doesn't work. 3 times a week. Like, Go up. We have friends
28:45Speaker 1who, when tirzepatide was around, they literally maxed out semaglutide.
28:49Speaker 1Like, I don't feel anything. They did 12 mg tirzepatide.
28:53Speaker 1Week 2, we're like, I think I feel it now. So different people have different tolerances,
28:58Speaker 1you need to just would increase the dose, right? Go slowly,
29:04Speaker 1week by week. I would increase by maybe 0.5
29:08Speaker 1mgs per injection. And, like, tell me I would say that where we see people really start to work at is about 5 mg a week total,
29:17Speaker 1whether you do it 3 times a week or once a week. Okay? And secondly, you saw only minor weight loss from semaglutide. So semaglutide,
29:24Speaker 1again, does not burn fat. So if a person saw minor weight loss,
29:29Speaker 1all semaglutide does is make a person not eat as much food. Okay?
29:34Speaker 1And your body burns fat when we're in a calorie deficit. But different people have different, better
29:40Speaker 1metabolisms,
29:41Speaker 1right? Have higher or lower metabolisms,
29:44Speaker 1which is oftentimes dependent on, well, genetic factors and age and how much muscle they have on them. Yeah. So if she just didn't eat, okay, cool, and wasn't losing a bunch of weight, then we'd want to look at other lifestyle factors, okay? Why her metabolism is so slow.
30:00Speaker 1Why the heck isn't she losing weight when she's in
30:03Speaker 1a calorie deficit? How much was she taking? Yeah, why didn't that too, right? How much was she taking? Is she eating small
30:09Speaker 1frequent meals to boost metabolism?
30:12Speaker 1Is she trying fasting? Is she sleeping enough? Does she have good muscle? Right? Women, that's always a question is, do you have enough muscle on you? Muscle determines every pound of muscle you add, your metabolism boosts by like 70 calories a day. So
30:27Speaker 1I guess that's all I have to say on that.
30:30Speaker 0I think the most important part here is that, again, I say it all the time, and I'm going to be redundant for a reason because it's just the way it is. We're all science projects. Just because your dad's brother's friend didn't do well on Retrutide doesn't mean that Retrutide sucks. She's saying that it doesn't work, whatever, right? You have to try things for yourself. Will and I talk about all the time, sweet spot. And this is with every compound, every compound, testosterone replacement, retreotide,
30:53Speaker 0Tesamorelin.
30:54Speaker 0Just because this is the suggested protocol or this is the starting dose, you have to find your
31:00Speaker 0body is completely different than everybody around you. You have to try different protocols, different amounts,
31:07Speaker 0find where you are burning the most fat, losing the most weight, if that's your objective, whatever your objective is, and you toy around with it until you find that sweet spot. Now,
31:17Speaker 0going off of should you try it once a week? Sure.
31:20Speaker 0We don't think that that's the best approach, but we don't have all the answers to everything. That's just our experience with
31:26Speaker 0knowing a lot of people that have taken it.
31:29Speaker 0You should try it. It might work better for you, right? How do you know unless you try it if something
31:35Speaker 0wasn't working? I'll give you an example for myself. I've just started taking carbs, eating carbs, and I haven't eaten carbs for years,
31:42Speaker 0and I was bloated. I didn't feel good. I got a lot buffer, and I was kind of cool, but like I was just not liking how I felt with my stomach, blah, blah, blah. So did I stay on that route or did I change it? I changed it. So I toyed around with it. I took out the veggies, and I just started eating sweet potato and rice. There you go. That worked out well, but I just started to maneuver things around. Just use your brain a little bit, think about things,
32:04Speaker 0and just
32:05Speaker 0do that. Strategize,
32:07Speaker 0think through it, and try different things.
32:09Speaker 0Find your sweet spot.
32:11Speaker 0You might be 1 of those people that need to take a lot. Sucks for you, but that just might be the case. For most people, that 2.5 mg starting off, they will notice it, but not everybody.
32:21Speaker 0So just go up, like Will said, 0.5, do it 3 times a week. So that's a 1.5.
32:26Speaker 0Each week go up until you it will hit you. It will hit you. Unless it's just bone stuff. Yeah. It's just it's the way it is, and it will work. So I hope that helps. Yeah. All right. I'm up. You're up.
32:37Speaker 1All
32:38Speaker 1right.
32:38Speaker 0New Year protocol.
32:40Speaker 0I was thinking of starting a protocol January 1 to try and knock things out before they become a problem. I would start with LL-thirty 7 to kill any bad bacteria,
32:51Speaker 0then FOX-four
32:52Speaker 0DRI
32:53Speaker 0to get rid of some
32:56Speaker 0senseless cells and finish with P-twenty
32:59Speaker 01 to kill any mutant cells.
33:02Speaker 0Any thoughts or additions? Good question. Epitalon.
33:06Speaker 1So I would start off with Epitalon, our
33:08Speaker 1buddy
33:09Speaker 1Paul Bactiar,
33:11Speaker 1literally every single protocol that he anybody who he starts on any peptide regimen, he starts them off with Epital- Yeah, reboot. As kind of a reboot.
33:20Speaker 1Yeah. Reboot,
33:22Speaker 1detox
33:23Speaker 1almost. Yeah. Resensitize,
33:25Speaker 1reset your, like, adrenal gland type thing. So I would add Epitalon in, and you don't need to do that much.
33:33Speaker 1Just 1 sec. 1 cycle? Just twice a year,
33:37Speaker 1maybe 10 mg a day for 10 days or 5 mg a day for 20 days.
33:42Speaker 1So
33:44Speaker 1Epitalon,
33:45Speaker 1would add in. Now P-twenty 1,
33:47Speaker 1I
33:49Speaker 1have no experience with it.
33:51Speaker 1I have read a bit about it, and it looks like it is inhibiting
33:57Speaker 1cellular
33:58Speaker 1proliferation.
33:59Speaker 1Alright? So, guys, all the time, our cells divide.
34:03Speaker 1Okay?
34:04Speaker 1And we need them to divide.
34:07Speaker 1There may be some benefit. Also
34:09Speaker 1said that like that's 1 of our body's most natural anti
34:13Speaker 1cancer fighting mechanisms is to, I guess, identify cancerous cell and try to make it not divide so it doesn't just keep rapidly growing.
34:24Speaker 1So I get that.
34:26Speaker 1And I guess I haven't done a ton of research in this because there's not a lot out there, but
34:31Speaker 1it would kind of worry me
34:34Speaker 1that I would be taking something that's telling my cells not to replicate.
34:38Speaker 1Right? We need to replicate ourselves. That's how we stay young. That's how we look young. That's how we right? You know that when you've
34:44Speaker 1like, throughout the day, we basically shed all the time because
34:47Speaker 1cells are dying and they're creating new ones. Ones. Now what it's saying is gonna it says it's gonna
34:53Speaker 1the cells that would normally be a little bit unhealthy and about to die, replicate
34:58Speaker 1and then die off, the P21 is trying to help that cell stay healthier and live longer but not replicate. Maybe good short term, but the long term potential implications kind of worry me. I don't know. I don't I mean, it's probably
35:13Speaker 1chances are it doesn't work that great anyway to really make that much of a difference.
35:18Speaker 1But
35:21Speaker 1take that for whatever it's worth. That's just my opinion off the top of my head. Okay?
35:26Speaker 1Yeah. I'll just But the other stuff, hell yeah, dude. And I would add that battalion to the Eagle. Definitely. Agreed.
35:31Speaker 0Agreed. Didn't really tell age and objectives, total objectives, we kind of get it. I'm going to always air on fasting,
35:38Speaker 0dude. Do that. I think fasting is great. I think it's going to get you a lot of the things that you're looking for. Will just kind of broke it down. Our cells are always dying and then they need to die off. So autophagy
35:49Speaker 0hits at about a 16 hour, give or take. So for those people that do fasting
35:54Speaker 0often, like myself, I love it. If you get to a 16 hour fast is when autophagy
36:00Speaker 0kicks in. If you can do, I recommend a 72 hour fast every 0.25. You know, you're going to bring your percentage
36:09Speaker 0down if you're getting cancer down radically by just doing a 72 hour fast every 0.25. I've been doing it for a long time. I do a lot of 24 hour fasts. So I'm telling you, I've seen it with myself. I've seen it with other people that I've worked with on coaching and whatnot. When they start fasting,
36:26Speaker 0they start looking younger. Why? Dead cells die off and brand new ones take their place when you get into that atopozy stage. Not kidding you. So try that. Yep. FOX-four dry is and what
36:38Speaker 1that's doing is that's helping clear away dead cells, right? So there is no room for good, healthy ones to come back in. So that's why you wanted to take that, and good for you. It sounds like you've done some research. Yeah, hell yeah. Kind of reboot. And same with the fasting. So cold plunges. Ew. That's the same
36:56Speaker 1basic reason you wanna do these cold plunges.
36:59Speaker 1Hell yeah.
37:03Speaker 1Yeah, I forget what I was gonna add onto that 1. All the above, man. You can age you I like what your thought is. Like, dude, yeah, you're doing the right thing.
37:11Speaker 1Hell yeah. Fucking old. Good for you.
37:13Speaker 1Next.
37:14Speaker 1Alright,
37:15Speaker 1I got it. So here's an idea
37:18Speaker 1for a future podcast would be for peptides that will be available in the future, but not yet on the market.
37:25Speaker 1Good?
37:26Speaker 1That's good. I like it. If you watch our last 1, I actually surprised Paul with that question.
37:32Speaker 1I said, All right, dude. Tell us about what you say Tell us about something that people don't really know that you're most excited about. Which we've heard about. His
37:41Speaker 1answer was on purpose brief. Yeah, vague. Because Yes, vague and brief.
37:47Speaker 1I'm not gonna repeat it right now because I don't wanna say the wrong things. Yeah.
37:52Speaker 1Go watch that podcast last week. Watch watch the podcast last week. But but but I'm with you. Like, we you have been heard, and, we will definitely keep our eyes out
38:00Speaker 0and try to give maybe, yeah, some previews, some early previews on some things. Yeah. We I mean, I love the question. So the cool thing is this. I mean, we're gonna try to bring some different flares as we move into 2026.
38:10Speaker 0You know, we've waiting for this podcast room to be finished. We're just waiting for the lighting and the cameras. And then we will be sitting across from each other, and it will look even more professional than this. You're gonna love it. And we're gonna have at least a
38:23Speaker 0guest once a month. We're gonna try to get a doctor on each month. You know, we do
38:30Speaker 0some business with some doctors and whatnot, so we want to have them on the show, and we do like a plethora of different doctors. Obviously, testosterone hormone replacement doctors,
38:38Speaker 0we love that type of stuff, and they're actually doctors, they know their business, they own blood work, so we would like dig into that stuff. So that's coming down the pike, so we will be digging into some different things. You know, it's a peptide podcast,
38:49Speaker 0but that's everything, health, nutrition, and we want to kind of dig into everything all around health,
38:55Speaker 0cold plunges. Like, that stuff's great, so that's coming down the pike, man. Good question.
39:00Speaker 0All right, I'm up. All right, all right. Warriors,
39:03Speaker 0I was on-
39:04Speaker 0You're be careful. And saw new love.
39:08Speaker 0Okay, so Warriors,
39:10Speaker 0I saw a new nasal spray. PT-one hundred 41
39:13Speaker 0is intense alone.
39:14Speaker 0With all the other peptides added in the blend,
39:18Speaker 0what have been your feedback on the effects of the new products? Nasal sprays he's talking about. He is specifically talking about a nasal spray blending
39:28Speaker 1PT-one hundred 41, okay,
39:30Speaker 1oxytocin,
39:32Speaker 1and Selank.
39:34Speaker 0Got it. Okay.
39:38Speaker 1In some circles called love potion. Right.
39:41Speaker 1The point of that so, like, what's the feedback, Minh? The point of that, like, PT
39:45Speaker 1yo, PT-one 41
39:47Speaker 1is intense and strong.
39:49Speaker 0I was just talking to buddy that just tried it for the 1st time. Alright. Yeah.
39:53Speaker 1We
39:54Speaker 1have a friend, a really, really good friend who's in a wheelchair, and he's like, bro, I almost
39:59Speaker 1I think I took too much.
40:02Speaker 1That poor guy can't anyway.
40:05Speaker 1So the whole point of that Selank
40:07Speaker 1helps you be in a relaxed
40:10Speaker 1in a relaxed state, but not like Xanax drooling on yourself. Okay? More like a relaxed focus, okay, which will kind of heighten your sexual experience.
40:20Speaker 1And
40:20Speaker 1oxytocin,
40:21Speaker 1as we know, it's kind of the love chemical that our brain produces
40:26Speaker 1when,
40:27Speaker 1well, during sex or when
40:30Speaker 1a mother has a child, right, it's
40:33Speaker 1this
40:34Speaker 1neurotransmitter chemical that basically affects our brain and makes us want to
40:40Speaker 1be more intimate.
40:41Speaker 1Cuddle time. Cuddle time. So
40:45Speaker 1the feedback has been great, Quest. I've known several, several people who have been taking this, and
40:52Speaker 1I guess here's the feedback is don't do too much.
40:56Speaker 1And with that, I know what I'm talking about. I would try and start off with like
41:00Speaker 13 sprays or so. Now
41:03Speaker 1JD
41:04Speaker 1and what we are experimenting with is
41:08Speaker 1like a daily dose of that, kind of similar to folks who take like the Cielis for daily use. Right? Instead of taking 20 mg 1 time,
41:16Speaker 1taking a 5 mg
41:18Speaker 1pill daily.
41:20Speaker 1Personally,
41:22Speaker 1that stuff wrecks have gives me headaches. My head just feels full. So the daily would be way better. Yeah. And my patients.
41:31Speaker 1But you don't and it won't be so strong. You know, PT-one hundred 41 definitely has a tendency to make you red flush, and I don't want that to happen every And
41:38Speaker 1so doing such a small dose, and I would say, like, maybe 1 spray
41:42Speaker 1daily. Yeah.
41:44Speaker 1But but I don't know, man. Like, if you're going away for a weekend
41:48Speaker 0and- I am bringing a bottle. Yeah. Yeah.
41:51Speaker 1And I don't know. I mean, you know how it is. Like, as you've been as you get a bit older, right, when I was young, I was ready to, you know, multiple times a day. Yeah. I mean, to be honest now, I'm like, okay, cool. I need like 24 hours.
42:05Speaker 1That's funny. Yeah, it is what it is. PT changes that, Yes, it does. Absolutely.
42:11Speaker 1So- So microdosing,
42:13Speaker 0I've been doing that with the spray. I don't I've kind of ran out of the spray out of my house for a while, and I feel like it worked well, you know? It's kind of more subtle,
42:20Speaker 0more subtle. But yeah, I think that it's the people that are there's been a lot of people that are starting to microdose PT-one hundred 41 to kind of the state level.
42:27Speaker 1Yeah, we're- So But Thymal altogether, yeah, dude, we've had really good feedback.
42:31Speaker 0Yep. Give it a go, man. Give it a go, who was that? Me? I
42:36Speaker 1am up. You're up. All right. Sub warriors, I just wanted to give you guys a follow-up on some questions that you had answered for me. Alright. I had asked if anyone has had Tesamorelin
42:48Speaker 1gel up on them before. Mr. Haas
42:51Speaker 1said it is possible that the water I use to reconstitute
42:55Speaker 1may be too cold.
42:57Speaker 1So I'm writing to inform you that he was 100%
43:01Speaker 1correct.
43:04Speaker 0Winner. Take a bow. So I think.
43:08Speaker 1He's a 100% correct. Yo. My fridge was on level 4 out of 5. I lowered the setting to level 2 and haven't had any issues since.
43:16Speaker 1K? So we know that, guys. We are starting to figure this out. Is Tesamorelin's
43:21Speaker 1another 1 that sometimes has a hard time mixing,
43:23Speaker 1but
43:24Speaker 1I would keep everybody's reconstitution water at room temp. K?
43:29Speaker 1I know if you look through our podcast
43:32Speaker 1several months ago, you will hear me say, keep your
43:36Speaker 1keep your reconstitution water and your peptide both in the fridge. Yeah.
43:41Speaker 1So now
43:42Speaker 1room temp or at least on, like, what he said, right, kind of a warmish fridge
43:47Speaker 1warmish fridge. You don't wanna put the water in too fast,
43:51Speaker 1and it doesn't wanna be too cold.
43:54Speaker 1So
43:55Speaker 1that worked for him.
43:56Speaker 1And
43:57Speaker 1question number 2 was about my testosterone
44:00Speaker 1giving me bacne,
44:02Speaker 1and I was considering lowering the dose. You guys informed me to not lower the dose of the test, but actually just kind of up the dose. I remember the estrogen blocker right here and continue my current test dose. It's
44:14Speaker 1been 2 weeks and my back knee has decreased.
44:17Speaker 1Win.
44:18Speaker 1I upped my dosage to 2 mgs of anastrozole,
44:22Speaker 1and my estradiol level went from 49 to 16.
44:26Speaker 1You guys have been on point. Thank you for your help. Keep up the good work. You know, it's funny about this 1. So I clipped
44:32Speaker 0this question and did a get a clip, and I just was blasted through my comments to you, just like how we were wrong about the as the AI and all this stuff. And I just, like, I dip out of those, man. I do whatever. You know, I argue with you guys, but it's funny that guy that we were talking to, we were literally talking to, saying, it worked. It worked great. Yeah.
44:49Speaker 1It's funny. You know, here is 1 problem I see on I know on YouTube, I've seen all these, like, different bodybuilders. Like, I've never taken an AI ever before. Right? This dude's 300 pounds jacked.
45:00Speaker 1Never taken an AI. Right? Never need to. You should not. It will kill your muscle growth.
45:06Speaker 1And I don't know, dude. Bullshit. I've
45:09Speaker 1literally probably worked with 5,000
45:11Speaker 1people
45:12Speaker 1on cycles. I
45:14Speaker 1have never once seen a person who doesn't need an AI if they're running over 500
45:18Speaker 1mgs of testosterone. Yeah. That dude, I guarantee, is over 500 mgs and has been doing it for a long, long time. Yeah. Or else he's just running a ton of Mastron also. Yeah. And then telling people you don't need an estrogen blocker. Well, that is an estrogen blocker. Yeah. But And that's stupid to say that because everybody's different. And everybody is different. And so, like, what sucks is or or yeah. What sucks is now you're putting that thought into everybody's mind that, like Well, those are people that are arguing. Like, you don't need a nail. Like, you don't need a nail. And and and it's not really nice. You know? Then you got kids walking around or kids shouldn't be taking this stuff, but, right, with, like,
45:50Speaker 1all this acne and be like, what's my problem? Need to shower again or something's wrong with me. Like, No, dude. You're just this is what happens.
45:58Speaker 1Sorry. And I have found and you don't wanna take too much of the estrogen blocker. The goal is to take as little as you possibly can, but still see and experience
46:07Speaker 1no side effects whatsoever. And it's totally possible.
46:11Speaker 1And it doesn't inhibit
46:12Speaker 1it it may, like, my stroke, maybe, like, slightly inhibit your, you know, your gains, but just not not where it's worth it. Like, what do you want? Another 0.5 a pound of muscle on you and have zits everywhere? Right. That's what the look would want? Would you rather have 0.5
46:27Speaker 1a pound of muscle less and have smooth skin?
46:31Speaker 0You just don't, I guess. Yeah. So whatever.
46:34Speaker 0But it works, man, I'm Interesting. Blasting a
46:37Speaker 0Thanks for letting us know, man. That's cool. Appreciate you, brother. I'm glad that we're actually helping.
46:42Speaker 0It's nice to hear.
46:43Speaker 0All right, easy 1. Can you do a peptide of the week comparing NAD plus and Epitalon for longevity? Great idea. Don't we do it? We'll do that this weekend. For you, brother, whoever or sister, whoever that is, we'll do that for you. Mhmm. Love it. Okay, guys. We're How gonna talk about
46:59Speaker 1do I convince someone to just try peptides?
47:03Speaker 1They don't know I'm doing them, but I've mentioned peptides before just to get a reaction to see how they'd react, and it hasn't been much of a great reaction. But they really could benefit by trying them.
47:14Speaker 1Are you trying to get your girlfriend? Is she overweight?
47:19Speaker 1Jane, that Retatrutide
47:22Speaker 0stuff's pretty good. Yeah. Baby.
47:24Speaker 1I
47:26Speaker 1would too. Shit. I would I don't know. I mean, hell, I know that his,
47:31Speaker 1was it your was it Alyssa that,
47:34Speaker 1like, dosed you with PT-one hundred 41?
47:37Speaker 0Was it the other way around? I gave her. Well, I gave it to her. She's yeah. It worked.
47:43Speaker 0Yeah. Pretty sexual sexuality,
47:45Speaker 1so it worked well.
47:46Speaker 0But go ahead, Lain. How do you convince somebody to start talking it? This is obviously a matter of our opinion. You know, how I do it is just I think everybody can talk the Todd, but like living
47:56Speaker 0a certain way speaks
47:58Speaker 0the boldness for, you like you can say this and this and that, and this does this and this does that. If you
48:04Speaker 0start taking something and you change, like you look different, you feel better, your skin looks clear,
48:10Speaker 0right? Your muscles look more ripped.
48:13Speaker 0It don't matter. People are gonna be like, All right, dude, tell me a little bit about that. You know? That's happened. That happened to me on the carnivore diet. People, when I 1st started eating the carnivore diet, I told them I was gonna die of cholesterol
48:23Speaker 0and like, Oh my gosh, I heard it all. This is 5 years ago, so it's gone leaps and bounds from then.
48:30Speaker 0Then I got ripped and they're like, All right, all right, tell me about this carnivore diet. Then I got literally almost everybody So on the thing is, just live a certain way, man. If you're trying to, 1st off,
48:41Speaker 0I don't know, like, what you're talking about when you say they don't know you're on peptides. Don't know why you got to deny it. They're not illegal. They're not It's not steroids. So I would just I'm an open book for everybody. I just say what I take. If anybody has a problem, I'm a grown man and that's theirs. So maybe you're different, I don't know.
48:57Speaker 0So if you're trying to do the sneak attack and you're trying to get somebody to take a certain something, I don't know, just live a certain way. If your
49:05Speaker 0body transforms,
49:08Speaker 0they're going to ask questions, Well, what are you doing? And then you can tell them, but you're still going to need to tell them that you're taking peptides. So I would just come clean with whatever you're taking. But that's my answer, man, live a certain way because
49:20Speaker 0just how you live speaks louder than how you speak.
49:23Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. JJ and I are part of this program that those you know know,
49:28Speaker 1but we always say, Hey, this is a program of attraction rather than promotion. Yeah. Okay?
49:36Speaker 1And when it comes to these types of things,
49:39Speaker 1I definitely don't
49:41Speaker 1really I don't push people to I don't push people on supplements.
49:45Speaker 1Yeah. Okay? Right here, I'm just giving you information. I'd do whatever the hell you want. Right? And I'm happy and people and I will answer questions all day long. Right? I'm happy to, but I don't I just frankly don't really like to to push people into things because who knows, man? Some weird things can happen. Right? And it'll probably be that 1 person that I'm like, you really need to no, no, no. You need to do this. Right?
50:05Speaker 1They don't react well. Right. Like my father, who's love you, dad, but he likes to blame things on people. Like, I as soon as I I don't
50:13Speaker 1I've suggested something, but I know that if I kind of push him to do it and he's gonna take it, then he'll make something up, and it'll be all my fault.
50:22Speaker 1So What? Know your question. Know your crowd, but but I think yeah. What if it's a girlfriend and you're trying to hide it from her or somebody else, you know, you gotta look at your own relationship. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that and find a new girl if she can't accept what you wanna do. Above all else, give me truth.
50:39Speaker 1And
50:41Speaker 1it is tough, though, yeah, when
50:44Speaker 1there's, dude, there is so much I mean, there's a lot of research on a lot of these things. There's there's minimal research on minimal things. I think that I think that starting somebody off with 1 of the some of the basic stuff is helpful. Right? VPC.
50:56Speaker 1JD has been talking to his father in the slow play menu. You just lead by example. Right? Your action attract people to wanna do it rather than pushing it on them. Yeah. So my dad it's a good story. So my dad has had a hurt back forever, and naturally,
51:11Speaker 0I you know, he knows what his son does, he knows that I'm into peptides, and I've obviously seen my back surgery and what it did.
51:19Speaker 0I don't like, well, I don't push it on. Say, You should try this pop. Nah, he's never going to inject anything. Well, we had Christmas at my house yesterday, and I injected him with BPC-one
51:27Speaker 0hundred 57,
51:29Speaker 0and I sent him home with a bottle. He promised he would take it every day, right? So I actually got to touch base with him, but there it is, man. Like I said, just live how you speak, man. Just live a certain way, and people will follow. If you're living with integrity,
51:42Speaker 0if you're living within character,
51:44Speaker 0and that's the basis of how you live your life, even with supplements, I mean, if you ever, I say it all the time, read through some of my comments. They're silly, man. Like, dude, whatever, dude, why do you care what I do?
51:54Speaker 0But I am honest about what I take, dude. Like, whatever, man, I'm a grown man. But like, I tell people this because I want people to see how they work,
52:03Speaker 0how they do it, like diet, how this works, or like when I'm honest, when I'm like, when I was on the new carb diet, I was telling people that I didn't really, my stomach, you know? I tried to just be honest, man, and spill and be honest because the world sucks. Everybody's full of SHIT,
52:17Speaker 0so the people that are honest and have integrity and character,
52:20Speaker 0people flock to you, man.
52:22Speaker 0So, you know, we kind of got off base, but it's
52:25Speaker 1connected to that to a degree, man. So, like, you know, the guy who stands on the side of the road with the microphone and yelling at everybody to love Jesus Christ. Right? Has that guy ever
52:35Speaker 0converted anybody to a I
52:38Speaker 1I mean, no. Wrong approach, bro. No way. Like Know your crowd, dude. Like, that's not That does not make me wanna do this. So
52:46Speaker 1that's an extreme, but I wish, yeah.
52:49Speaker 1I like you attract some other promotion, just live through your own actions. Shoot out.
52:53Speaker 1And work on honest communication with your girlfriend and
52:58Speaker 1Yeah.
52:59Speaker 0Good stuff, my friends. Okay, here's the deal. So that is No, we have 1 more, I think, Q and A before the year is over. We'll probably be recording it in Cabo. We tried that when you were in- We did. -in
53:10Speaker 0the island, but yeah, we'll see. Think we'll try to figure that out. So
53:15Speaker 0anyways,
53:16Speaker 0that will be it.
53:18Speaker 0It is Christmas in 2 days. I hope everybody has an amazing Christmas. Again, if you missed the episode with Paul that just dropped today,
53:26Speaker 0so give it a listen, Spotify, it's on Apple, and we'll decide if we are gonna drop this on YouTube.
53:32Speaker 0We haven't decided yet, but soon we will have our own program, our own platform where we can pull you from there and we can talk more freely and we don't have to skate around stuff
53:41Speaker 0out of protection for ourselves. So anyways, anything else? Merry
53:46Speaker 0Christmas. Merry Christmas. You guys take care.