Peptide Q&A #21 – Women’s Hormones, AOD Reconstitution, RETA Dosing, & PT-141 Nasal Spray Peptide of the Week https://peptideoftheweekpod.com/episodes/peptide-q-a-21-women-s-hormones-aod-reconstitution-reta-dosing-pt-141-nasal-spra/transcript We are not doctors. The content on this site is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Any compounds discussed may be intended for research purposes only. Use at your own risk. Amounts, timing and cycle lengths below are reported as the named speaker described them. Nothing here is a protocol to follow. --- 0:09 Speaker 0: Welcome back to the Pepatide of the Week Podcast. 0:12 Speaker 0: I'm your host, JD Denham, and right next to me, my buddy, my cohost, William T. Haws. 0:18 Speaker 0: Dude, how are you? I'm tired. I'm burnt out. I'm 0:22 Speaker 0: Christmased out. Christmased out. White flag on Christmas, bro. No mas. Yeah. It's the 22nd today. I know. What day is it? 22nd. So we were recording this on the 22nd and we were laughing beforehand because we were talking about how we were both Christmased out 0:37 Speaker 1: and I got no more Christmas parties in me. No, no more Christmas parties. We had like, yeah, 4 Christmas parties last week and, 0:45 Speaker 0: yeah, it's just a lot, man. I didn't even make it to Will's. Yeah, that's a lot. That's how many I had to attend. I was babysittered out. Right, my girlfriend. 0:54 Speaker 1: Right. You having a time? A Christmas party. I mean, I can. 0:59 Speaker 1: Not really. Not 1:02 Speaker 1: really, but she did and her friends did. So 1:06 Speaker 0: I haven't seen your house yet. It's nice. It's nice. 1:08 Speaker 1: It was a good Did you see pictures of that of the night? Just the I'll tell you what. So people posted them, so I got to Christmas lights up everywhere. And everybody who came over was like, woah. How much do pay to put all these lights up? I'm like, no. I just did it myself. I mean, bullshit. 1:21 Speaker 1: No way. So apparently, I did a good job. There you go. But I don't know. I think that that's fun. It's time consuming. Yeah. But it wasn't that bad. I would usually work. I'd come home and like, okay, I'm gonna wrap this 1 tree. 1:32 Speaker 1: And then I just kind of slowly and things came together. Just get her done? Yeah. But it's been a lot, 1:39 Speaker 0: and I'm happy 1:40 Speaker 1: that it's over with. 1:42 Speaker 0: No mas. Well, we're almost done, buddy. This is the last time, dude, last 2 weeks of the year, man, this year flew by quick. I am, can I wait? I'm heading to Cabo 1:50 Speaker 0: tomorrow with my wife and my boys, and man, have I had a great year, but I have had a year that we have worked hard and I 1:58 Speaker 0: cannot wait to spend some time with kids. 2:01 Speaker 0: Yeah, Not in like a chaos 2:04 Speaker 0: time and dote on them, and it's gonna be hot. That's why we're going to Cabo. It's gonna rain for you guys. It is. So we're leaving you with some rain, and we're gonna sit by We the beach in the need some rain. We need some rain. 2:15 Speaker 0: So it is a Q and A time, and, you know, we wanted to, real quick, just drop something real quick, so if you missed last episode with Paul Bactiar, 1 of our good friends, and, 2:25 Speaker 0: you know, when you work in this 2:27 Speaker 0: industry and realm and, you know, there's a lot coming down the pike, as anybody that's into peptides knows, there's just a lot of things that we see 2:35 Speaker 0: going to change. There's a lot of things we don't know. We're trying to stay ahead of the curve. We're trying to give you best information as we know. So if you missed it, check it out. There's a lot of good information with Paul on kind of what to expect 2:46 Speaker 0: with GLP-1s 2:47 Speaker 0: and just peptides in general, 2:49 Speaker 0: And we're gonna continue to do that as we know, because we all stick together in this 2:56 Speaker 0: healthy world that we all live in. You know, it's a lifestyle for Will and I and a lot of people, right? Yep. Healthy exercise, 3:03 Speaker 0: nutrition, 3:04 Speaker 0: and all that stuff. So if you miss it, check it out and see kind of what's coming down the pike. There's a lot of people concerned. 3:12 Speaker 0: You've to be able to get your peptides, in our opinion. I won't speak for Will, in my opinion, they're probably going to be more costly. That's just the way it is. It is what it is, right? Things don't usually go down. Supply and demand, right? But you will be able to get them if you do have the means to get them before the end of the year. If you do, why don't you just stock up on some of the ones you love just in case? If you don't, 3:32 Speaker 0: it just is what it is. So that would be my advice. 3:35 Speaker 1: Yeah. And know that, well, 3:37 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot more like censoring. 3:39 Speaker 1: We're already seeing it take place. Good point. And I'm only bringing this up just because it's facts. 3:45 Speaker 0: Yeah. 3:47 Speaker 0: We feel it. So we like, yeah, right. We feel that there will be a lot more censoring. So like if we can't find 1 of our podcasts, it's because they took it down and- Well, we haven't been putting it on YouTube, so that kind of bums me out because we love YouTube. You know, Spotify 3:59 Speaker 0: and Apple are top anyway, but, you know, people go into YouTube. I do. I'm on YouTube. I don't even watch TV anymore. I'm just scrolling. I'm on YouTube. 4:07 Speaker 0: So we had decided to take the podcast down 4:11 Speaker 0: off of YouTube because they flagged us for whatever reason, and we don't even know why, and we don't want to get our YouTube taken abound because it's pretty big, you know? So anyways, we're just kind of filling you in, you know, Will and I were talking off before we started recording 4:24 Speaker 0: that, 4:25 Speaker 0: you know, I try to read signs. I've gotten older. I'm 48 years old, and I try to read the signs on everything, right? If you see something over and over, I try to see it. So we are noticing our social media channels heavily 4:38 Speaker 0: getting nailed. You know, I run the social medias mainly, 4:41 Speaker 0: and so, know, Will and I sit down and kind of put a strategy together, 4:46 Speaker 0: and they're just getting nailed, and there are some things that I'm posting that are just very lukewarm compared to what I see out there, so just be prepared, y'all. You know, just know that there's changes coming down the pike. I think everybody's kind of feeling it, so we'll do our best to navigate through it and share with you how you could do that too. 5:06 Speaker 1: Yep. Cool. So, right, if there's, I don't know, yeah, so we just need to be, I guess we do need to maybe be careful about what we say. It'd be really nice to just be able to actually have free speech, but that's not the case. Well, 5:20 Speaker 0: that's another thing that we haven't talked about in a while is, you know, we are building an outside source where you're gonna be able to pull from our social medias, where we actually control them, we can talk more freely, and we're not having to worry about, you know, Instagram shutting us down or YouTube shutting us down. So that's 1 of our main focuses that we will get, are going to get done very soon. We've been juggling a lot, but right, we are going to get that sucker done so that we can wrap with you and answer some of your questions. If you're on our social media, the Warrior page, you know that we can't respond to you for 3 days, so that's why. Not ignoring 5:52 Speaker 0: you. We're not allowed per Instagram to respond to our DMs for 3 days 5:57 Speaker 0: for something. So there you go. There it All right, let's get into what you came for. So I'm gonna let you do the honors. As always, you always start us off. Okay. Q and A episode. 6:06 Speaker 0: Let's do this. Q and A. 6:09 Speaker 1: For a woman, 6:11 Speaker 1: how do I determine if an HCG or testosterone siponate is the better choice? What ranges for sex hormones should a woman be, 6:20 Speaker 1: and not the actual, not the clinical ranges, 6:23 Speaker 1: right? 6:24 Speaker 1: Because as we know, for example, right, I think it's the FDA 6:29 Speaker 1: is on 6:30 Speaker 1: If you're a personal trainer and you have a certification, right, you are not allowed to tell people, not allowed to prescribe a meal plan or tell people, because you have a professional responsibility, 6:40 Speaker 1: to eat 6:42 Speaker 1: to eat a mix of macros that is outside of what the FDA scope is. And I believe 6:49 Speaker 1: the lowest amount of carb percentage that a person's allowed to recommend is something like 60% carbs. Wow. I never knew that. Crazy. So 6:58 Speaker 1: that's kind of what we're- Clinical ranges. 7:01 Speaker 1: Also, you know, basically the clinical ranges, we all know 7:05 Speaker 1: BMI, 7:06 Speaker 1: right, your body mass index, is really just meant for like severely obese or severely 7:11 Speaker 1: underweight people. Like, I would rank as like 7:14 Speaker 1: oh, absolutely obese on a BMI scale. Yeah, right. Okay? 7:18 Speaker 1: They basically say everybody for this age, 7:21 Speaker 1: gender 7:22 Speaker 1: and height should be this tall. Well, I or I mean, this should be this heavy. Yeah. And I have way more muscle. I'm way heavier, so it takes no 1 in takes 7:33 Speaker 1: does not take into account fat or muscle. And the last thing is, like, all these ranges, these clinical ranges, right, are meant for an average American. What do we know about average Americans? They're not healthy. They're not healthy. So if you are average 7:47 Speaker 1: to an average American, 7:49 Speaker 1: that's just not good. Yeah. In my opinion. True that. Okay. 7:53 Speaker 1: So that's kinda why she asked to to not don't don't just tell me the clinical oranges. Our kinda gal. So 8:00 Speaker 1: I think we actually consulted Doctor. Scott on this 1 because he does a lot of 8:07 Speaker 1: TOT Blood work. Blood blood 8:09 Speaker 0: work readings for men and women. And he's a holistic type doctor. So 8:14 Speaker 1: you want to kind tell her what 8:16 Speaker 0: we found? Yeah, yeah. So for testosterone, 8:20 Speaker 0: for women, it's gonna range for 15 to 70 8:24 Speaker 0: nanograms per deciliter. 8:26 Speaker 0: So that's a good range, you know? So compared to 8:30 Speaker 0: a man, who would say like 8:32 Speaker 0: 900 to 1,100 is going be like ideal. Mean, everybody's a little bit different. Same for women. You got to find your sweet spot. Where do you feel good? Where do you feel energy? 8:42 Speaker 0: Testosterone replacement for women. I mean, we've had such a cool experience of women in premenopausal menopause getting on testosterone replacement and literally changing their lives, just like men. We hear them all the time. 8:54 Speaker 0: So when you talk about your free testosterone, 0.5 to 4 basically is where you're going to be in the free testosterone compared to a man where I ideally think free test is about a 45. 9:04 Speaker 0: That's 9:05 Speaker 0: awesome. Everybody's a little bit different. So there you go, 15 to 70 9:09 Speaker 0: for the total 9:11 Speaker 1: test and free test, 0.5 to 4. Ladies, there you go. And that is nanograms per deciliter. Are readings a blood test that you get back. Total test is just how much total testosterone you have. Doesn't mean you could use it. Free test is the stuff you actually get to use. Yeah. I guess- Sex drive. Does test siponated HCG, like, siponated is the hormone, okay? That's 9:32 Speaker 1: gonna be the stronger 9:34 Speaker 0: treatment. Yeah, gets to the jugular plate. Yeah, 9:37 Speaker 1: that will 9:39 Speaker 1: You maybe wanna take your blood test, see how far away from those ranges you are, and then that will help your decision on 9:46 Speaker 1: which route you wanna do. 9:49 Speaker 1: Because so if you're very deficient, 9:51 Speaker 1: then maybe, like, the actual testosterone is the way to go. I would imagine- Almost there, cool. HCG. 9:58 Speaker 1: Yeah. But testosterone is the hormone 10:01 Speaker 1: that, bam, is gonna work immediately. HCG is just stimulating 10:06 Speaker 1: to help out. Yep. Now, to be honest, 10:11 Speaker 1: I don't I can't give you the scientific explanation of how HCG works in a woman 10:15 Speaker 1: because it's 10:17 Speaker 1: human chorionic gonadotropin, 10:19 Speaker 1: which helps your gonads 10:22 Speaker 1: in a man produce more testosterone. 10:25 Speaker 1: And it doesn't really win in men, by the way, just to taking HCG, 10:30 Speaker 1: like, to raise your testosterone, doesn't really work. Doesn't 10:34 Speaker 1: do it enough. 10:36 Speaker 0: That's like a shitload. Yeah, and then still- 10:40 Speaker 0: Causes other problems. Yeah. But 10:43 Speaker 0: it will accidentally make your wife pregnant, so. Cool thing about testosterone replacement, even for men, it's so much more acceptable, and you have so many more doctors now starting to accept it, 10:55 Speaker 0: know about it, and actually know what they're talking about. And even for women, it's just becoming so much more common, so thank God for that. Yeah. I mean, so the still people that are still like just leaving agitated comments and stuff, man, come on, bro. Like, get with the times, man. It's changing 11:10 Speaker 0: people's lives. Just get with the times and just worry about yourself for the most part. Stroll past, my man. All right. Good, man. All right. What do we got? I know Will talked This is gonna be you, all you, baby. I know Will talked about the last on the last podcast. 11:24 Speaker 0: Can you definitely clarify reconstituting 11:27 Speaker 0: AOD-nine 604, 11:29 Speaker 0: what to use ratios 11:31 Speaker 0: and where to buy it. So how do you suggest 11:35 Speaker 0: reconstituting 11:36 Speaker 0: AOD? 11:37 Speaker 1: Okay, so 11:38 Speaker 1: AOD is hydrophobic. 11:40 Speaker 1: It does not like mixing with water. So if you mix in just regular bacteriostatic water, there's a good chance it's gonna gel up, 11:48 Speaker 1: maybe not immediately, but after a couple days. So 11:51 Speaker 1: acetic acid is the name of the game. Right? That's what's gonna really make it, yeah, absorb fully in water and stay that way. My suggestion 12:01 Speaker 1: is find a acetic acid 12:04 Speaker 1: 0.6% 12:08 Speaker 1: and 12:09 Speaker 1: mix with glycerin 12:12 Speaker 1: up to 3%. 12:14 Speaker 1: Acetic acid is acidic, so you can just do acetic acid and 12:19 Speaker 1: bacteriostatic 12:20 Speaker 1: water, 12:21 Speaker 1: which is benzyl alcohol and distilled water. But 12:25 Speaker 1: it may burn, it may have a little acidic effect. The glycerin in there is to kind of dull a little bit of the acidity, 12:33 Speaker 1: and it might be more comfortable. And so where to get it? So basically, acetic acid, bacterial static water is what you're looking for. 12:41 Speaker 1: Even better, I prefer, like, acid 12:44 Speaker 1: glycerol acetate, I think, is basically what they're what they call it. I get my waters, 12:50 Speaker 1: from bacterialstaticwater.com. 12:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. 12:55 Speaker 1: No. That's not right. So, no, that's not the actual website. It's medicalbackwater.com. 13:02 Speaker 1: Medicalbackwater.com. 13:05 Speaker 0: There you go. Sorry. 13:06 Speaker 1: That's where I get it, there is. You will see exactly what I'm talking about. Okay? 13:11 Speaker 1: They have regular bacterial static water. They have the 13:15 Speaker 1: glycerol acetate. 13:18 Speaker 1: And yeah, there's that. Now you also asked, how do I 13:23 Speaker 1: mix it? How much do I mix it? So most of you I prefer 5 mg AOD because even then I do 10 mg is just too much powder to mix, and there's a good chance it's gonna gel off. Mhmm. So 5 mg of AOD, 13:36 Speaker 1: I would put 1 mil of water in. 13:39 Speaker 1: K? And then, I don't know, you are more familiar. You do AOD-1. 2.5 13:44 Speaker 1: mils. Mhmm. You put 2.5, and then you inject how much? 20 20 13:50 Speaker 0: units. 13:51 Speaker 0: You do 20 units? 20 units morning and night. Okay. So- 13:55 Speaker 0: So the other mixing protocol is 2.5 mils. Okay. 14:02 Speaker 1: So at 20 units will be 400 micrograms. 14:06 Speaker 1: Okay? 14:08 Speaker 1: So that's a little less than 0.5 of a milligram. 14:12 Speaker 1: All right? You frankly could, folks, but 14:16 Speaker 1: AOD is kind of different. A lot of these, you can say, hey, I don't even need to add that much water because you just need the bare minimum amount of water that will mix the powder. With AOD, you probably do wanna go with more water possible so it gels so it does not have a good chance of gelling up. Yeah. So 2.5 14:32 Speaker 1: is probably a good idea. I 14:35 Speaker 1: think the range should be between, you know, what is it, between 200 micrograms 14:39 Speaker 1: and maybe even a full milligram 14:42 Speaker 1: daily. 14:43 Speaker 0: You can do a lot. 20 14:46 Speaker 1: is 400 micrograms. 14:49 Speaker 1: 40 units is 800 micrograms. 14:53 Speaker 1: I'd go between that range. Yeah. Okay. Daily morning fasted state. Absolutely. Next 15:00 Speaker 1: portion of that question. 15:03 Speaker 0: That was it. That was it. 15:05 Speaker 1: You're number 3. That helped. Yeah. Okay. Hey, I'd like to say thank you for giving us accurate information on how to use peptides in vegan healthful ways. 15:15 Speaker 1: My 15:16 Speaker 1: question is, 15:20 Speaker 1: is there any way SLU-three 32 15:22 Speaker 1: could cause easy bruising, skin issues, skin bleeding on the back of a person's hands and forearms? 15:28 Speaker 1: I'm a healthy, fit 40 year old male. 15:30 Speaker 1: And since I started taking SLU-five 15:33 Speaker 1: hundred micrograms twice daily, 15:35 Speaker 1: I have several, several skin bruises, abrasions on the back of hands and forearms. It's so bad that I always wear long sleeved shirts and try to cover my hands. Have you heard of others having this problem? Anything in SLU-3P's makeup that could be causing this at all? Thanks again. 15:50 Speaker 0: Good question. 15:51 Speaker 0: No, I have not. And, you know, we're always curious to see, you know, there's always possibilities. 15:59 Speaker 0: So we did some research to just make sure that we 16:05 Speaker 0: didn't know something that we need to know about, and I didn't find anything, man. We'd researched it. 1, we have worked with, gosh, countless people that run SLU-3Cu SLU is amazing. Yeah. And it's never come up once. You're the 1st. And then, so just out of respect for you and us, we wanted to know, no, we couldn't find anything in regards to the makeup. I think you're good. I mean, my suggestion for whatever that is worth is stop taking it for a bit. That stops, it's obviously the SLU-3. 16:33 Speaker 0: Right? 16:34 Speaker 0: That's the obvious, but you know, maybe if it doesn't stop, that's gonna tell you that it isn't that, and it could be diet, it could be all kinds of different things. So I would definitely stop taking it. SLU-3s great, but you can add a lot others that do just as well. 16:48 Speaker 0: So that would be my suggestion to answer your question. No, we couldn't find anything. Yeah, there's just, there's no, there is, 16:54 Speaker 1: I don't, yeah, on the internet, I could not find any reports of anybody experiencing that. So, 17:00 Speaker 1: but hey, again, out of respect to you, like, dude, who knows, man? You're just like allergic to something. 17:06 Speaker 1: I don't know. Could just be a specific personal problem, 17:10 Speaker 1: but for sure, trial and error, right? Why don't you pull it? See if that changes. Let us know too. I'm curious. Are you taking any blood thinners, anything that could thin your blood? Are you eating enough food? Right? I thought. In nutrients? 17:26 Speaker 1: Know- Healthy foods. So take 17:28 Speaker 1: a look at that. Are you doing anything more rough? Are there is there something causing these bruises? 17:32 Speaker 1: Are you hitting your forearms 17:34 Speaker 1: on something? 17:35 Speaker 1: So those are kind of those are typical reasons that 17:39 Speaker 1: you will get bruising more than a normal person. 17:42 Speaker 1: But that's odd, and that's not good if you're, like, having to hide your forearms. 17:46 Speaker 0: Yeah. So I think it's pretty bad too, skin bleeding and the I mean, really, I would to man. It's so good. It definitely wouldn't be worth it. Tell us what you tell us what you experience when you Honestly, though, shoot us a DM. I'm really kind of curious to see if it stops when you stop taking the SLU-3. 18:00 Speaker 0: So let us know. 18:02 Speaker 0: All right, hey man, your podcast is awesome. I'm looking to start Tesamorelin. 18:07 Speaker 0: I'm '36, five'eleven, 185 to 190 pounds. 18:11 Speaker 0: I work out 4 to 5 days a week. I'm looking to shed the bottom belly fat and love handles, currently 16% body fat. 18:20 Speaker 0: I'm taking TRT blend 200 mgs with 0.5 18:24 Speaker 0: anastrozole, 18:26 Speaker 0: pinning that daily, meaning he's talking about the test daily, 18:31 Speaker 0: at 15 units 18:32 Speaker 0: to stay level. I worked 12 hour swing shifts 18:36 Speaker 0: and would, 18:38 Speaker 0: sorry about that, I switched it over. 18:42 Speaker 0: Swing says, Would it be best to take it before I go to bed, whether I go to bed at 6AM or at 18:49 Speaker 0: 9PM? 18:50 Speaker 0: What should I start at for the dose? 18:52 Speaker 0: I'm also going to add Reta and looking for doses on that. Thanks, man. I appreciate any info that you can provide. Keep up the good fight. 19:00 Speaker 0: So you want to run me that or want me to jump in? 19:03 Speaker 1: Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm gonna give my feedback also. Testimorelin 19:07 Speaker 0: is great. It'll focus in right on that belly fat. I definitely suggest you add the Reta as well. Those 2 together are fire. 19:15 Speaker 0: I like that you're doing the 15 units daily, 19:19 Speaker 0: so that's a lot of pinning personally, so good on you. 19:22 Speaker 0: But I don't have that in me. 19:27 Speaker 0: Would it be best to take it before bed? Yes, my answer to that is yes. I would take whenever you're gonna go to bed, if you have odd sleeping hours, that's the best time to take it because you're going to be sleeping for that time. So yes, take it before bed. You always want to take Secretagog, 19:40 Speaker 0: especially Tesamorelin at night. So yes, take it then. 19:45 Speaker 0: And Retatrutide. 19:48 Speaker 0: It doesn't say what you're looking to lose in the objective, but what I'm going to say is we always generally, 19:54 Speaker 0: I'll say me, start pretty much the same, 19:57 Speaker 0: 10 units, so 1 mg, 3 times a week, Monday, 20:01 Speaker 0: Wednesday, 20:02 Speaker 0: Friday. The standard low dose for what recommended is 2.5 20:06 Speaker 0: mg. So always go 10 mg Monday, Wednesday, I mean, 10 units, so 1 mg Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. It does well for most people, and then you just got to find your sweet spot. Is that your sweet spot? I have no idea. You're going to have to figure out how you feel. 20:21 Speaker 0: Just know there's some, for some people there's initial, Woah, this is intense. That's how it was for me. I almost jumped ship. The 1st week was that's how it was, and then it leveled out immediately, and I'm glad I stayed on. So just know that your body has to adapt. You have to get used to these types of things, and then give it a few weeks, see how you feel, and then adapt the dosage based upon that. Yep, 20:43 Speaker 1: for sure. 20:45 Speaker 1: So your test, it looks like you're doing 200 20:48 Speaker 1: mg 20:50 Speaker 1: weekly. 20:50 Speaker 1: That's what your units, 20:52 Speaker 1: 15 units times 7 days a week add up to, which is good TRT dose. Typically. I mean, really everything he said, I 2nd on the Retatrut now and on Tesamorelin at night. My suggestion 21:04 Speaker 1: on dosing for the Tessa 21:07 Speaker 1: is 21:08 Speaker 1: I would start at 0.5 of a milligram, 21:11 Speaker 1: so 500 micrograms. This is Tesamorelin, 21:14 Speaker 1: not at Retatrutide, what he was talking about. Start 21:17 Speaker 1: with 0.5 of a milligram 21:19 Speaker 1: nightly. 21:20 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. Cool. If you're 21:22 Speaker 1: to sleep at different times, let's still do it at night before you go to bed in a fasted state. So don't eat like an hour, hour and 0.5 before you do it. 21:30 Speaker 1: Start with 0.5 of a mg 21:33 Speaker 1: and then maybe do that for a week. And then if you want, you can increase to a full mg. 21:39 Speaker 1: It sounds like, you know, you're a big guy, and you should be able to handle a full milligram just fine. As you know, with all the secreta dogs, if you're doing a little too much, you might start to experience a little bit of excess water retention. So if you do experience that, drop the dose down and then titrate slower 21:57 Speaker 1: up. 21:58 Speaker 1: Okay? 22:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's Tesamorelin 10 mg, 22:03 Speaker 1: here's the easy trick. Right? You're gonna put in just put 1 mil of water. 22:07 Speaker 1: Okay? Then every 10 units equals 1 mg. 1 mil. 22:11 Speaker 1: 5 units equals 0.5 a milligram. If it's a 20 mg of Tesamorelin, put in 2 mils of water, and then the math is the same. 22:20 Speaker 1: 10 units equals 1 mg. Yeah. Alright? 22:24 Speaker 1: Cool. Peasy. 22:25 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about Follistatin? 22:28 Speaker 1: Yeah. Dosing 22:30 Speaker 1: and best time to take it. Absolutely love the podcast. Keep them coming. Thank you. You guys rock. Alright. So 22:36 Speaker 1: I have some personal experience with this and done some 22:40 Speaker 1: done kind of quite a bit of research. So 1st of all, Follistatin, 22:44 Speaker 1: we have a good friend who okay. So if you if you go on the Internet and you look up, like, buff cow, 22:49 Speaker 1: you may have seen pictures of these Belgian blue cows. Right? And it looks like their owner has just abused the hell out of them with steroids. 22:58 Speaker 1: Are lean and just muscle just rippling out. Like, know, it looks like the cow can't even walk at all. It probably can't do much. 23:07 Speaker 1: That is not the owner just dosing them with steroids. 23:11 Speaker 1: Like, that's actual, like, natural condition of that cow. So they have a disorder in their genes that inhibits 23:18 Speaker 1: the signal that tells them to stop growing muscle and inhibits the signal that says, Hey, for survival, we might need some fat. 23:26 Speaker 1: So they just grow, grow, grow, grow, grow, grow. And 23:30 Speaker 1: are Basically, 23:32 Speaker 1: that is in their genes is a form of the is of follistatin. 23:35 Speaker 1: So 23:36 Speaker 1: we have a friend. So scientists now have figured out how to 23:40 Speaker 1: pull that out of the cow, 23:43 Speaker 1: put it in the needle, and 23:46 Speaker 1: inject it back into people. So we have a friend that did that that spent $25. 23:50 Speaker 1: Went to Mexico. Obviously, I doubt they're doing I mean, they're not doing it in The United States. 23:55 Speaker 1: So 1 injection should last him 4 years, 23:58 Speaker 1: and it would cost him $25. 24:00 Speaker 1: He did it. He videotaped the whole damn thing, so it's like not a secret. You know, every step of the way, it's on camera. 24:08 Speaker 1: And if you ask him, like, he thinks, yeah, cool. I think it has worked a little bit. The problem is that he's already just like lean and jacked and always stays like that, and that's his body type. So 24:17 Speaker 1: I think that for him, it would have been a better experience for to use on somebody 24:23 Speaker 1: who's ripped already. Who's not ripped already, but also has the genetic, 24:26 Speaker 1: like, propensity to not just be a a lean person. You know? Somebody whose genes are like, oh, I've just always been kind of pudgy even when I work hard, right? It's just I still always have that layer. Like, that's the person that it might work better on. So that being said, 24:41 Speaker 1: that 1 24:43 Speaker 1: is 24:44 Speaker 1: expensive 24:45 Speaker 1: and blah, blah, blah. They've put a lot in a person. So Follistatin out here, the things I know, we have tried it a few times, and I've had lots 24:54 Speaker 1: of people try it. The 24:56 Speaker 1: welts that it gives you at the injection site are like, it basically feels like you have an abscess happening. Right? Like, you have an infection. Yeah. It's Bad pit. Hard spot 25:09 Speaker 1: wherever you put it, stomach, blah blah blah, or a friend, like, swelled up really bad. 25:14 Speaker 1: But and come to find out, like, that's 25:17 Speaker 1: customary. 25:18 Speaker 1: Right? And 25:19 Speaker 1: we know 25:21 Speaker 1: we get a lot of feedback, and we know 25:24 Speaker 1: the population, you people, and you can't deal with it. 25:28 Speaker 1: So we have not pursued 25:30 Speaker 1: really, like, using it or or suggesting it to people because I just know that nobody would they're very too Too painful. Too too much of a People won't even take GHKCU. 25:39 Speaker 0: Right. 25:40 Speaker 1: That stings really bad. So they won't even deal with that. So 25:43 Speaker 1: what it does, it basically falls out to me, is essentially just putting a signal out there that inhibits your body. Well, yes, it inhibits the signal that tells your body to stop growing muscle. Right. Okay. 25:53 Speaker 1: My thought is, guys, if it, so A, it's really it just seems like you're not- There's other things that will get there quicker. Other things that will get there quicker. Don't hurt If it really kicked ass and it worked- Here's the bottom line. It would be everywhere, Reta is, right? Reta is like literally it works. Everybody there Right? 26:09 Speaker 1: This worked as it says on paper, 26:13 Speaker 1: it'd be the most popular thing there is around. But it's not. And giving this giant syringe of like the actual 26:20 Speaker 1: DNA from that cow or whatever 26:23 Speaker 1: is probably a more legit and effective way. And that worked. 26:27 Speaker 1: I don't know. So 26:29 Speaker 1: He said, I kind of thought it would work. You do something for $25 and you go, I think it works. Well, it's justification to tell you where you go, dude, I spend that much easy on supplements every year. Right? So I'm just gonna down here anything? Well, that's But that was his plan. You know he did. Oh, yeah. He didn't stop at all. So That's funny. But whatever, dude. Cool. He did good. He's not dead. And 26:50 Speaker 1: he didn't grow 0.333 arm. He's a good dude. 26:52 Speaker 1: Yeah. And we like him. He's cool. He's actually been on this, so there's a hint. He's been on this podcast before. Yeah. Nobody. So, 26:59 Speaker 1: yeah, I don't know, dude. Follistatin, I don't have and I I just I don't have a lot of lot more experience for you. I'm sorry. 27:06 Speaker 0: There's probably other other other compounds that'll get you to what you want quicker, easier, and less painful. Yeah. 27:12 Speaker 1: Like 27:13 Speaker 1: eating lots of food Yeah. Protein and working out. Looking heavy. Yeah. Looking heavy. Being sleepy. Sleeping good mixed with replacement hormone hormone optimization. 27:22 Speaker 1: Alright. So a friend of mine passed along a question. A 46 year old female started Retta a month ago at 1 mg, 27:30 Speaker 1: so 0.5 migs 2 times a week. Super low. She is titrated up to the standard dose of 2.5 mg. 27:38 Speaker 1: 1 mg 27:39 Speaker 1: Monday and Friday, and then 0.5 mg on Wednesday. Got it. Okay? 1 1.51. 27:46 Speaker 1: Yeah. She is not seeing any of the benefit included at the food noise. 27:49 Speaker 1: Should she go to 1 shot a week and see if that makes a difference? She only saw minor weight loss from Semaglutide. 27:57 Speaker 1: Well, 27:58 Speaker 1: my thought here is okay. So 28:01 Speaker 1: well, 28:02 Speaker 1: different people have different tolerances. Okay? So she is titrated up. 28:06 Speaker 1: Let's rationally think about this. She is titrated up to 28:10 Speaker 1: bare minimum starting dose. And 28:13 Speaker 1: it's not and she's not getting the benefit of it. Well, you're just at the starting dose. That's why there's a starting dose, right? That's why there's room to grow. 28:21 Speaker 0: You started to bow and blow. So lost 28:23 Speaker 1: not all if you haven't got to the basic, like, effective dose yet. 28:29 Speaker 1: I would So, yeah, cool. There are some theories out there that, hey, it might work a little bit better if it's done once a week, right? There's theories out there that might work better if it's done 3 times a week. That's worth a try, but I don't think it's worth like going, Oh, well, it doesn't work. 3 times a week. Like, Go up. We have friends 28:45 Speaker 1: who, when tirzepatide was around, they literally maxed out semaglutide. 28:49 Speaker 1: Like, I don't feel anything. They did 12 mg tirzepatide. 28:53 Speaker 1: Week 2, we're like, I think I feel it now. So different people have different tolerances, 28:58 Speaker 1: you need to just would increase the dose, right? Go slowly, 29:04 Speaker 1: week by week. I would increase by maybe 0.5 29:08 Speaker 1: mgs per injection. And, like, tell me I would say that where we see people really start to work at is about 5 mg a week total, 29:17 Speaker 1: whether you do it 3 times a week or once a week. Okay? And secondly, you saw only minor weight loss from semaglutide. So semaglutide, 29:24 Speaker 1: again, does not burn fat. So if a person saw minor weight loss, 29:29 Speaker 1: all semaglutide does is make a person not eat as much food. Okay? 29:34 Speaker 1: And your body burns fat when we're in a calorie deficit. But different people have different, better 29:40 Speaker 1: metabolisms, 29:41 Speaker 1: right? Have higher or lower metabolisms, 29:44 Speaker 1: which is oftentimes dependent on, well, genetic factors and age and how much muscle they have on them. Yeah. So if she just didn't eat, okay, cool, and wasn't losing a bunch of weight, then we'd want to look at other lifestyle factors, okay? Why her metabolism is so slow. 30:00 Speaker 1: Why the heck isn't she losing weight when she's in 30:03 Speaker 1: a calorie deficit? How much was she taking? Yeah, why didn't that too, right? How much was she taking? Is she eating small 30:09 Speaker 1: frequent meals to boost metabolism? 30:12 Speaker 1: Is she trying fasting? Is she sleeping enough? Does she have good muscle? Right? Women, that's always a question is, do you have enough muscle on you? Muscle determines every pound of muscle you add, your metabolism boosts by like 70 calories a day. So 30:27 Speaker 1: I guess that's all I have to say on that. 30:30 Speaker 0: I think the most important part here is that, again, I say it all the time, and I'm going to be redundant for a reason because it's just the way it is. We're all science projects. Just because your dad's brother's friend didn't do well on Retrutide doesn't mean that Retrutide sucks. She's saying that it doesn't work, whatever, right? You have to try things for yourself. Will and I talk about all the time, sweet spot. And this is with every compound, every compound, testosterone replacement, retreotide, 30:53 Speaker 0: Tesamorelin. 30:54 Speaker 0: Just because this is the suggested protocol or this is the starting dose, you have to find your 31:00 Speaker 0: body is completely different than everybody around you. You have to try different protocols, different amounts, 31:07 Speaker 0: find where you are burning the most fat, losing the most weight, if that's your objective, whatever your objective is, and you toy around with it until you find that sweet spot. Now, 31:17 Speaker 0: going off of should you try it once a week? Sure. 31:20 Speaker 0: We don't think that that's the best approach, but we don't have all the answers to everything. That's just our experience with 31:26 Speaker 0: knowing a lot of people that have taken it. 31:29 Speaker 0: You should try it. It might work better for you, right? How do you know unless you try it if something 31:35 Speaker 0: wasn't working? I'll give you an example for myself. I've just started taking carbs, eating carbs, and I haven't eaten carbs for years, 31:42 Speaker 0: and I was bloated. I didn't feel good. I got a lot buffer, and I was kind of cool, but like I was just not liking how I felt with my stomach, blah, blah, blah. So did I stay on that route or did I change it? I changed it. So I toyed around with it. I took out the veggies, and I just started eating sweet potato and rice. There you go. That worked out well, but I just started to maneuver things around. Just use your brain a little bit, think about things, 32:04 Speaker 0: and just 32:05 Speaker 0: do that. Strategize, 32:07 Speaker 0: think through it, and try different things. 32:09 Speaker 0: Find your sweet spot. 32:11 Speaker 0: You might be 1 of those people that need to take a lot. Sucks for you, but that just might be the case. For most people, that 2.5 mg starting off, they will notice it, but not everybody. 32:21 Speaker 0: So just go up, like Will said, 0.5, do it 3 times a week. So that's a 1.5. 32:26 Speaker 0: Each week go up until you it will hit you. It will hit you. Unless it's just bone stuff. Yeah. It's just it's the way it is, and it will work. So I hope that helps. Yeah. All right. I'm up. You're up. 32:37 Speaker 1: All 32:38 Speaker 1: right. 32:38 Speaker 0: New Year protocol. 32:40 Speaker 0: I was thinking of starting a protocol January 1 to try and knock things out before they become a problem. I would start with LL-thirty 7 to kill any bad bacteria, 32:51 Speaker 0: then FOX-four 32:52 Speaker 0: DRI 32:53 Speaker 0: to get rid of some 32:56 Speaker 0: senseless cells and finish with P-twenty 32:59 Speaker 0: 1 to kill any mutant cells. 33:02 Speaker 0: Any thoughts or additions? Good question. Epitalon. 33:06 Speaker 1: So I would start off with Epitalon, our 33:08 Speaker 1: buddy 33:09 Speaker 1: Paul Bactiar, 33:11 Speaker 1: literally every single protocol that he anybody who he starts on any peptide regimen, he starts them off with Epital- Yeah, reboot. As kind of a reboot. 33:20 Speaker 1: Yeah. Reboot, 33:22 Speaker 1: detox 33:23 Speaker 1: almost. Yeah. Resensitize, 33:25 Speaker 1: reset your, like, adrenal gland type thing. So I would add Epitalon in, and you don't need to do that much. 33:33 Speaker 1: Just 1 sec. 1 cycle? Just twice a year, 33:37 Speaker 1: maybe 10 mg a day for 10 days or 5 mg a day for 20 days. 33:42 Speaker 1: So 33:44 Speaker 1: Epitalon, 33:45 Speaker 1: would add in. Now P-twenty 1, 33:47 Speaker 1: I 33:49 Speaker 1: have no experience with it. 33:51 Speaker 1: I have read a bit about it, and it looks like it is inhibiting 33:57 Speaker 1: cellular 33:58 Speaker 1: proliferation. 33:59 Speaker 1: Alright? So, guys, all the time, our cells divide. 34:03 Speaker 1: Okay? 34:04 Speaker 1: And we need them to divide. 34:07 Speaker 1: There may be some benefit. Also 34:09 Speaker 1: said that like that's 1 of our body's most natural anti 34:13 Speaker 1: cancer fighting mechanisms is to, I guess, identify cancerous cell and try to make it not divide so it doesn't just keep rapidly growing. 34:24 Speaker 1: So I get that. 34:26 Speaker 1: And I guess I haven't done a ton of research in this because there's not a lot out there, but 34:31 Speaker 1: it would kind of worry me 34:34 Speaker 1: that I would be taking something that's telling my cells not to replicate. 34:38 Speaker 1: Right? We need to replicate ourselves. That's how we stay young. That's how we look young. That's how we right? You know that when you've 34:44 Speaker 1: like, throughout the day, we basically shed all the time because 34:47 Speaker 1: cells are dying and they're creating new ones. Ones. Now what it's saying is gonna it says it's gonna 34:53 Speaker 1: the cells that would normally be a little bit unhealthy and about to die, replicate 34:58 Speaker 1: and then die off, the P21 is trying to help that cell stay healthier and live longer but not replicate. Maybe good short term, but the long term potential implications kind of worry me. I don't know. I don't I mean, it's probably 35:13 Speaker 1: chances are it doesn't work that great anyway to really make that much of a difference. 35:18 Speaker 1: But 35:21 Speaker 1: take that for whatever it's worth. That's just my opinion off the top of my head. Okay? 35:26 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll just But the other stuff, hell yeah, dude. And I would add that battalion to the Eagle. Definitely. Agreed. 35:31 Speaker 0: Agreed. Didn't really tell age and objectives, total objectives, we kind of get it. I'm going to always air on fasting, 35:38 Speaker 0: dude. Do that. I think fasting is great. I think it's going to get you a lot of the things that you're looking for. Will just kind of broke it down. Our cells are always dying and then they need to die off. So autophagy 35:49 Speaker 0: hits at about a 16 hour, give or take. So for those people that do fasting 35:54 Speaker 0: often, like myself, I love it. If you get to a 16 hour fast is when autophagy 36:00 Speaker 0: kicks in. If you can do, I recommend a 72 hour fast every 0.25. You know, you're going to bring your percentage 36:09 Speaker 0: down if you're getting cancer down radically by just doing a 72 hour fast every 0.25. I've been doing it for a long time. I do a lot of 24 hour fasts. So I'm telling you, I've seen it with myself. I've seen it with other people that I've worked with on coaching and whatnot. When they start fasting, 36:26 Speaker 0: they start looking younger. Why? Dead cells die off and brand new ones take their place when you get into that atopozy stage. Not kidding you. So try that. Yep. FOX-four dry is and what 36:38 Speaker 1: that's doing is that's helping clear away dead cells, right? So there is no room for good, healthy ones to come back in. So that's why you wanted to take that, and good for you. It sounds like you've done some research. Yeah, hell yeah. Kind of reboot. And same with the fasting. So cold plunges. Ew. That's the same 36:56 Speaker 1: basic reason you wanna do these cold plunges. 36:59 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. 37:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget what I was gonna add onto that 1. All the above, man. You can age you I like what your thought is. Like, dude, yeah, you're doing the right thing. 37:11 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Fucking old. Good for you. 37:13 Speaker 1: Next. 37:14 Speaker 1: Alright, 37:15 Speaker 1: I got it. So here's an idea 37:18 Speaker 1: for a future podcast would be for peptides that will be available in the future, but not yet on the market. 37:25 Speaker 1: Good? 37:26 Speaker 1: That's good. I like it. If you watch our last 1, I actually surprised Paul with that question. 37:32 Speaker 1: I said, All right, dude. Tell us about what you say Tell us about something that people don't really know that you're most excited about. Which we've heard about. His 37:41 Speaker 1: answer was on purpose brief. Yeah, vague. Because Yes, vague and brief. 37:47 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna repeat it right now because I don't wanna say the wrong things. Yeah. 37:52 Speaker 1: Go watch that podcast last week. Watch watch the podcast last week. But but but I'm with you. Like, we you have been heard, and, we will definitely keep our eyes out 38:00 Speaker 0: and try to give maybe, yeah, some previews, some early previews on some things. Yeah. We I mean, I love the question. So the cool thing is this. I mean, we're gonna try to bring some different flares as we move into 2026. 38:10 Speaker 0: You know, we've waiting for this podcast room to be finished. We're just waiting for the lighting and the cameras. And then we will be sitting across from each other, and it will look even more professional than this. You're gonna love it. And we're gonna have at least a 38:23 Speaker 0: guest once a month. We're gonna try to get a doctor on each month. You know, we do 38:30 Speaker 0: some business with some doctors and whatnot, so we want to have them on the show, and we do like a plethora of different doctors. Obviously, testosterone hormone replacement doctors, 38:38 Speaker 0: we love that type of stuff, and they're actually doctors, they know their business, they own blood work, so we would like dig into that stuff. So that's coming down the pike, so we will be digging into some different things. You know, it's a peptide podcast, 38:49 Speaker 0: but that's everything, health, nutrition, and we want to kind of dig into everything all around health, 38:55 Speaker 0: cold plunges. Like, that stuff's great, so that's coming down the pike, man. Good question. 39:00 Speaker 0: All right, I'm up. All right, all right. Warriors, 39:03 Speaker 0: I was on- 39:04 Speaker 0: You're be careful. And saw new love. 39:08 Speaker 0: Okay, so Warriors, 39:10 Speaker 0: I saw a new nasal spray. PT-one hundred 41 39:13 Speaker 0: is intense alone. 39:14 Speaker 0: With all the other peptides added in the blend, 39:18 Speaker 0: what have been your feedback on the effects of the new products? Nasal sprays he's talking about. He is specifically talking about a nasal spray blending 39:28 Speaker 1: PT-one hundred 41, okay, 39:30 Speaker 1: oxytocin, 39:32 Speaker 1: and Selank. 39:34 Speaker 0: Got it. Okay. 39:38 Speaker 1: In some circles called love potion. Right. 39:41 Speaker 1: The point of that so, like, what's the feedback, Minh? The point of that, like, PT 39:45 Speaker 1: yo, PT-one 41 39:47 Speaker 1: is intense and strong. 39:49 Speaker 0: I was just talking to buddy that just tried it for the 1st time. Alright. Yeah. 39:53 Speaker 1: We 39:54 Speaker 1: have a friend, a really, really good friend who's in a wheelchair, and he's like, bro, I almost 39:59 Speaker 1: I think I took too much. 40:02 Speaker 1: That poor guy can't anyway. 40:05 Speaker 1: So the whole point of that Selank 40:07 Speaker 1: helps you be in a relaxed 40:10 Speaker 1: in a relaxed state, but not like Xanax drooling on yourself. Okay? More like a relaxed focus, okay, which will kind of heighten your sexual experience. 40:20 Speaker 1: And 40:20 Speaker 1: oxytocin, 40:21 Speaker 1: as we know, it's kind of the love chemical that our brain produces 40:26 Speaker 1: when, 40:27 Speaker 1: well, during sex or when 40:30 Speaker 1: a mother has a child, right, it's 40:33 Speaker 1: this 40:34 Speaker 1: neurotransmitter chemical that basically affects our brain and makes us want to 40:40 Speaker 1: be more intimate. 40:41 Speaker 1: Cuddle time. Cuddle time. So 40:45 Speaker 1: the feedback has been great, Quest. I've known several, several people who have been taking this, and 40:52 Speaker 1: I guess here's the feedback is don't do too much. 40:56 Speaker 1: And with that, I know what I'm talking about. I would try and start off with like 41:00 Speaker 1: 3 sprays or so. Now 41:03 Speaker 1: JD 41:04 Speaker 1: and what we are experimenting with is 41:08 Speaker 1: like a daily dose of that, kind of similar to folks who take like the Cielis for daily use. Right? Instead of taking 20 mg 1 time, 41:16 Speaker 1: taking a 5 mg 41:18 Speaker 1: pill daily. 41:20 Speaker 1: Personally, 41:22 Speaker 1: that stuff wrecks have gives me headaches. My head just feels full. So the daily would be way better. Yeah. And my patients. 41:31 Speaker 1: But you don't and it won't be so strong. You know, PT-one hundred 41 definitely has a tendency to make you red flush, and I don't want that to happen every And 41:38 Speaker 1: so doing such a small dose, and I would say, like, maybe 1 spray 41:42 Speaker 1: daily. Yeah. 41:44 Speaker 1: But but I don't know, man. Like, if you're going away for a weekend 41:48 Speaker 0: and- I am bringing a bottle. Yeah. Yeah. 41:51 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean, you know how it is. Like, as you've been as you get a bit older, right, when I was young, I was ready to, you know, multiple times a day. Yeah. I mean, to be honest now, I'm like, okay, cool. I need like 24 hours. 42:05 Speaker 1: That's funny. Yeah, it is what it is. PT changes that, Yes, it does. Absolutely. 42:11 Speaker 1: So- So microdosing, 42:13 Speaker 0: I've been doing that with the spray. I don't I've kind of ran out of the spray out of my house for a while, and I feel like it worked well, you know? It's kind of more subtle, 42:20 Speaker 0: more subtle. But yeah, I think that it's the people that are there's been a lot of people that are starting to microdose PT-one hundred 41 to kind of the state level. 42:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're- So But Thymal altogether, yeah, dude, we've had really good feedback. 42:31 Speaker 0: Yep. Give it a go, man. Give it a go, who was that? Me? I 42:36 Speaker 1: am up. You're up. All right. Sub warriors, I just wanted to give you guys a follow-up on some questions that you had answered for me. Alright. I had asked if anyone has had Tesamorelin 42:48 Speaker 1: gel up on them before. Mr. Haas 42:51 Speaker 1: said it is possible that the water I use to reconstitute 42:55 Speaker 1: may be too cold. 42:57 Speaker 1: So I'm writing to inform you that he was 100% 43:01 Speaker 1: correct. 43:04 Speaker 0: Winner. Take a bow. So I think. 43:08 Speaker 1: He's a 100% correct. Yo. My fridge was on level 4 out of 5. I lowered the setting to level 2 and haven't had any issues since. 43:16 Speaker 1: K? So we know that, guys. We are starting to figure this out. Is Tesamorelin's 43:21 Speaker 1: another 1 that sometimes has a hard time mixing, 43:23 Speaker 1: but 43:24 Speaker 1: I would keep everybody's reconstitution water at room temp. K? 43:29 Speaker 1: I know if you look through our podcast 43:32 Speaker 1: several months ago, you will hear me say, keep your 43:36 Speaker 1: keep your reconstitution water and your peptide both in the fridge. Yeah. 43:41 Speaker 1: So now 43:42 Speaker 1: room temp or at least on, like, what he said, right, kind of a warmish fridge 43:47 Speaker 1: warmish fridge. You don't wanna put the water in too fast, 43:51 Speaker 1: and it doesn't wanna be too cold. 43:54 Speaker 1: So 43:55 Speaker 1: that worked for him. 43:56 Speaker 1: And 43:57 Speaker 1: question number 2 was about my testosterone 44:00 Speaker 1: giving me bacne, 44:02 Speaker 1: and I was considering lowering the dose. You guys informed me to not lower the dose of the test, but actually just kind of up the dose. I remember the estrogen blocker right here and continue my current test dose. It's 44:14 Speaker 1: been 2 weeks and my back knee has decreased. 44:17 Speaker 1: Win. 44:18 Speaker 1: I upped my dosage to 2 mgs of anastrozole, 44:22 Speaker 1: and my estradiol level went from 49 to 16. 44:26 Speaker 1: You guys have been on point. Thank you for your help. Keep up the good work. You know, it's funny about this 1. So I clipped 44:32 Speaker 0: this question and did a get a clip, and I just was blasted through my comments to you, just like how we were wrong about the as the AI and all this stuff. And I just, like, I dip out of those, man. I do whatever. You know, I argue with you guys, but it's funny that guy that we were talking to, we were literally talking to, saying, it worked. It worked great. Yeah. 44:49 Speaker 1: It's funny. You know, here is 1 problem I see on I know on YouTube, I've seen all these, like, different bodybuilders. Like, I've never taken an AI ever before. Right? This dude's 300 pounds jacked. 45:00 Speaker 1: Never taken an AI. Right? Never need to. You should not. It will kill your muscle growth. 45:06 Speaker 1: And I don't know, dude. Bullshit. I've 45:09 Speaker 1: literally probably worked with 5,000 45:11 Speaker 1: people 45:12 Speaker 1: on cycles. I 45:14 Speaker 1: have never once seen a person who doesn't need an AI if they're running over 500 45:18 Speaker 1: mgs of testosterone. Yeah. That dude, I guarantee, is over 500 mgs and has been doing it for a long, long time. Yeah. Or else he's just running a ton of Mastron also. Yeah. And then telling people you don't need an estrogen blocker. Well, that is an estrogen blocker. Yeah. But And that's stupid to say that because everybody's different. And everybody is different. And so, like, what sucks is or or yeah. What sucks is now you're putting that thought into everybody's mind that, like Well, those are people that are arguing. Like, you don't need a nail. Like, you don't need a nail. And and and it's not really nice. You know? Then you got kids walking around or kids shouldn't be taking this stuff, but, right, with, like, 45:50 Speaker 1: all this acne and be like, what's my problem? Need to shower again or something's wrong with me. Like, No, dude. You're just this is what happens. 45:58 Speaker 1: Sorry. And I have found and you don't wanna take too much of the estrogen blocker. The goal is to take as little as you possibly can, but still see and experience 46:07 Speaker 1: no side effects whatsoever. And it's totally possible. 46:11 Speaker 1: And it doesn't inhibit 46:12 Speaker 1: it it may, like, my stroke, maybe, like, slightly inhibit your, you know, your gains, but just not not where it's worth it. Like, what do you want? Another 0.5 a pound of muscle on you and have zits everywhere? Right. That's what the look would want? Would you rather have 0.5 46:27 Speaker 1: a pound of muscle less and have smooth skin? 46:31 Speaker 0: You just don't, I guess. Yeah. So whatever. 46:34 Speaker 0: But it works, man, I'm Interesting. Blasting a 46:37 Speaker 0: Thanks for letting us know, man. That's cool. Appreciate you, brother. I'm glad that we're actually helping. 46:42 Speaker 0: It's nice to hear. 46:43 Speaker 0: All right, easy 1. Can you do a peptide of the week comparing NAD plus and Epitalon for longevity? Great idea. Don't we do it? We'll do that this weekend. For you, brother, whoever or sister, whoever that is, we'll do that for you. Mhmm. Love it. Okay, guys. We're How gonna talk about 46:59 Speaker 1: do I convince someone to just try peptides? 47:03 Speaker 1: They don't know I'm doing them, but I've mentioned peptides before just to get a reaction to see how they'd react, and it hasn't been much of a great reaction. But they really could benefit by trying them. 47:14 Speaker 1: Are you trying to get your girlfriend? Is she overweight? 47:19 Speaker 1: Jane, that Retatrutide 47:22 Speaker 0: stuff's pretty good. Yeah. Baby. 47:24 Speaker 1: I 47:26 Speaker 1: would too. Shit. I would I don't know. I mean, hell, I know that his, 47:31 Speaker 1: was it your was it Alyssa that, 47:34 Speaker 1: like, dosed you with PT-one hundred 41? 47:37 Speaker 0: Was it the other way around? I gave her. Well, I gave it to her. She's yeah. It worked. 47:43 Speaker 0: Yeah. Pretty sexual sexuality, 47:45 Speaker 1: so it worked well. 47:46 Speaker 0: But go ahead, Lain. How do you convince somebody to start talking it? This is obviously a matter of our opinion. You know, how I do it is just I think everybody can talk the Todd, but like living 47:56 Speaker 0: a certain way speaks 47:58 Speaker 0: the boldness for, you like you can say this and this and that, and this does this and this does that. If you 48:04 Speaker 0: start taking something and you change, like you look different, you feel better, your skin looks clear, 48:10 Speaker 0: right? Your muscles look more ripped. 48:13 Speaker 0: It don't matter. People are gonna be like, All right, dude, tell me a little bit about that. You know? That's happened. That happened to me on the carnivore diet. People, when I 1st started eating the carnivore diet, I told them I was gonna die of cholesterol 48:23 Speaker 0: and like, Oh my gosh, I heard it all. This is 5 years ago, so it's gone leaps and bounds from then. 48:30 Speaker 0: Then I got ripped and they're like, All right, all right, tell me about this carnivore diet. Then I got literally almost everybody So on the thing is, just live a certain way, man. If you're trying to, 1st off, 48:41 Speaker 0: I don't know, like, what you're talking about when you say they don't know you're on peptides. Don't know why you got to deny it. They're not illegal. They're not It's not steroids. So I would just I'm an open book for everybody. I just say what I take. If anybody has a problem, I'm a grown man and that's theirs. So maybe you're different, I don't know. 48:57 Speaker 0: So if you're trying to do the sneak attack and you're trying to get somebody to take a certain something, I don't know, just live a certain way. If your 49:05 Speaker 0: body transforms, 49:08 Speaker 0: they're going to ask questions, Well, what are you doing? And then you can tell them, but you're still going to need to tell them that you're taking peptides. So I would just come clean with whatever you're taking. But that's my answer, man, live a certain way because 49:20 Speaker 0: just how you live speaks louder than how you speak. 49:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. JJ and I are part of this program that those you know know, 49:28 Speaker 1: but we always say, Hey, this is a program of attraction rather than promotion. Yeah. Okay? 49:36 Speaker 1: And when it comes to these types of things, 49:39 Speaker 1: I definitely don't 49:41 Speaker 1: really I don't push people to I don't push people on supplements. 49:45 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay? Right here, I'm just giving you information. I'd do whatever the hell you want. Right? And I'm happy and people and I will answer questions all day long. Right? I'm happy to, but I don't I just frankly don't really like to to push people into things because who knows, man? Some weird things can happen. Right? And it'll probably be that 1 person that I'm like, you really need to no, no, no. You need to do this. Right? 50:05 Speaker 1: They don't react well. Right. Like my father, who's love you, dad, but he likes to blame things on people. Like, I as soon as I I don't 50:13 Speaker 1: I've suggested something, but I know that if I kind of push him to do it and he's gonna take it, then he'll make something up, and it'll be all my fault. 50:22 Speaker 1: So What? Know your question. Know your crowd, but but I think yeah. What if it's a girlfriend and you're trying to hide it from her or somebody else, you know, you gotta look at your own relationship. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that and find a new girl if she can't accept what you wanna do. Above all else, give me truth. 50:39 Speaker 1: And 50:41 Speaker 1: it is tough, though, yeah, when 50:44 Speaker 1: there's, dude, there is so much I mean, there's a lot of research on a lot of these things. There's there's minimal research on minimal things. I think that I think that starting somebody off with 1 of the some of the basic stuff is helpful. Right? VPC. 50:56 Speaker 1: JD has been talking to his father in the slow play menu. You just lead by example. Right? Your action attract people to wanna do it rather than pushing it on them. Yeah. So my dad it's a good story. So my dad has had a hurt back forever, and naturally, 51:11 Speaker 0: I you know, he knows what his son does, he knows that I'm into peptides, and I've obviously seen my back surgery and what it did. 51:19 Speaker 0: I don't like, well, I don't push it on. Say, You should try this pop. Nah, he's never going to inject anything. Well, we had Christmas at my house yesterday, and I injected him with BPC-one 51:27 Speaker 0: hundred 57, 51:29 Speaker 0: and I sent him home with a bottle. He promised he would take it every day, right? So I actually got to touch base with him, but there it is, man. Like I said, just live how you speak, man. Just live a certain way, and people will follow. If you're living with integrity, 51:42 Speaker 0: if you're living within character, 51:44 Speaker 0: and that's the basis of how you live your life, even with supplements, I mean, if you ever, I say it all the time, read through some of my comments. They're silly, man. Like, dude, whatever, dude, why do you care what I do? 51:54 Speaker 0: But I am honest about what I take, dude. Like, whatever, man, I'm a grown man. But like, I tell people this because I want people to see how they work, 52:03 Speaker 0: how they do it, like diet, how this works, or like when I'm honest, when I'm like, when I was on the new carb diet, I was telling people that I didn't really, my stomach, you know? I tried to just be honest, man, and spill and be honest because the world sucks. Everybody's full of SHIT, 52:17 Speaker 0: so the people that are honest and have integrity and character, 52:20 Speaker 0: people flock to you, man. 52:22 Speaker 0: So, you know, we kind of got off base, but it's 52:25 Speaker 1: connected to that to a degree, man. So, like, you know, the guy who stands on the side of the road with the microphone and yelling at everybody to love Jesus Christ. Right? Has that guy ever 52:35 Speaker 0: converted anybody to a I 52:38 Speaker 1: I mean, no. Wrong approach, bro. No way. Like Know your crowd, dude. Like, that's not That does not make me wanna do this. So 52:46 Speaker 1: that's an extreme, but I wish, yeah. 52:49 Speaker 1: I like you attract some other promotion, just live through your own actions. Shoot out. 52:53 Speaker 1: And work on honest communication with your girlfriend and 52:58 Speaker 1: Yeah. 52:59 Speaker 0: Good stuff, my friends. Okay, here's the deal. So that is No, we have 1 more, I think, Q and A before the year is over. We'll probably be recording it in Cabo. We tried that when you were in- We did. -in 53:10 Speaker 0: the island, but yeah, we'll see. Think we'll try to figure that out. So 53:15 Speaker 0: anyways, 53:16 Speaker 0: that will be it. 53:18 Speaker 0: It is Christmas in 2 days. I hope everybody has an amazing Christmas. Again, if you missed the episode with Paul that just dropped today, 53:26 Speaker 0: so give it a listen, Spotify, it's on Apple, and we'll decide if we are gonna drop this on YouTube. 53:32 Speaker 0: We haven't decided yet, but soon we will have our own program, our own platform where we can pull you from there and we can talk more freely and we don't have to skate around stuff 53:41 Speaker 0: out of protection for ourselves. So anyways, anything else? Merry 53:46 Speaker 0: Christmas. Merry Christmas. You guys take care.